Lowering The Value Of Competition

I talked about the concept of lowering someone else's value and raising your own on a comment in another thread. However, I felt like this is an interesting topic that I want to get into more. This tactic is great because not only does it raise you own perceived value in her eyes, but it makes your competition less favorable to her without you doing anything dirty.

Now, we all know women hate nice guys. However, many guys will easily submit to a women and she will react favorably to it. The positive reaction has nothing to do with her gaining attraction for the nice guy, it's simply because her own ego is being fed or she gained something valuable (goods that are bought for her). It's in her innate biology to subconsciously despise the nice guy but then come up with some bullshit excuse to explain her own solipsism when she dumps him for being a nice guy.

Now, this subconscious hate that women have for nice guys can be used on competition. Although being an orbiter to her already lowers the value of other men going after her, you can lower their value even more to ensure that she'll always be the one prying for you. Granted that you hold a strong dominant frame over her (you lead her, tease her, show value), you can use her the other mens' "positive" qualities against them.

When the topic of her other suiters comes up. You can screen her and ask her questions by them. Or you may make some observations about what other guys do for her. If she says talks about the things they do for her (like buy her things) or the compliments they give her, or if you can sense that the man puts her first before himself, then this is a sure way to confirm that the orbiter is a beta. Once this is confirmed, highlight the nice guy qualities about the men to her, as this will subconsciously lower their value to her.

You can usually say things things like "wow, he's one of the nicest guys I've heard of." Or say things in a joking fashion, "so, in other words he's your doormat?". She'll react in two ways, she may agree, but she won't overtly talk about how she finds it unattractive. Or she may disagree, and say something that would agree with society's conditioned views that nice guys are good, however it won't change the fact that the seeds are already planted in her head. In the end, she'll be thinking about it more and more and start seeing just how low of value the other man is for being a nice guy. The tactic simply involves using her own biology against other men, you don't have to lie about them or anything.

Now, this isn't a completely necessary tactic to use, but it is a great way to make her see just how much higher value you are compared to other men in her life. It's also amusing to see just how true redpill theory is when you get to see just how much women really do view betas as low value. As well as how wrong society is when it tells you to "Just be a nice guy".

Other Example's Of Value Destroyers:

"Wow, you must really love to use him for your own needs" (said in a joking fashion)

"I wish I was that nice"

"That's nice of him, did he play you song and serenade you too?" (said in a joking fashion)

"He gives you a lot of compliments, he must really care about you"

"You should hook me up with him, I love nice guys" (Said in a joking fashion)

Dealing With Other Alphas

While not necessarily rare that you'll have competition with alphas since nine times out of ten your competition will be comprised of mostly nice guy betas, you may find out that she has other high value men looking to win her over every once in a while. You probably won't hear about the excessive compliments being given to her or the things bought for her since an alpha wouldn't do that. The best way to deal with an alpha is to be higher value than him, having the higher social status, better game, better body, better sense of style, more money, and letting her covertly know that you have options is your best line of offense for alpha competition (this is generally how you deal with most competition as well, but against an alpha, all of this REALLY matters).