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[–]pornpornpppp14 points15 points16 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
No, you don't have to go full dark-triad to get pussy. In fact, all you need is a couple hundred bucks to buy an escort. However, if you want a HEALTHY relationship, you need to stand your own ground and not get bulldozed over and supplicate yourself before the femme.
TRP exists because modern dogma doesn't teach this, and even teaches the opposite- to be a cringey nice-guy eager on all fours to fetch anything for his mistress.
You can have a GF without respecting yourself, but you'll just be an extension of her bank account while she slams an actual chad on the side.
[–]daze0fyore1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
stand your own ground and not get bulldozed over and supplicate yourself before the femme. TRP exists because modern dogma doesn't teach this, and even teaches the opposite- to be a cringey nice-guy eager on all fours to fetch anything for his mistress. You can have a GF without respecting yourself, but you'll just be an extension of her bank account while she slams an actual chad on the side.
Never been cheated on, but also never had a relationship that lasted longer than 6 months.
[–]pornpornpppp3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
That's a subfacet of TRP that's hard to find literature on. So many posts are basically r / PickupArtists with redpill philosophy, but if you dig there's some good posts on how to apply TRP tenants to cultivate a healthy and rewarding long term relationship.
Evidenced by the fact most healthy, long term relationships are by 'natural alphas' with tradcon religious backgrounds. Being 'TRP Alpha' is basically that condensing those morals of success without all the churchy BS in the way, and supporting it with actual philosophy instead of verse
[–]daze0fyore1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm taking Kaballah, which has been helpful... but it's not meant for having success with women. Thank you for your insight. I'm ready to learn, but also need to stay a decent human being.
[–]newName5434566 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Do you have to be completely alpha to get a gf?
Of course not. Many beta guys have gfs.
Are these relations you really want to be in though?
I'm still holding out hope that a woman will like me for me.
To the point: abandon it. Pronto.
Now, I think women should be respected in everyday life when you're dealing with a non-sexual situation.
No disagreement there. Ultimately being openly disrespectful is a shot in the foot for you whenever you have to deal with the person again, man or woman.
[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
You are too far lost in the Blue Pill to be saved. You are older than 30. Old dogs can't learn new tricks. You have an idealized image of yourself and the world. In fact you wrote my Red Pill children a cute little paragraph about how awesome you are.
You are afraid of being an asshole aka enforcing boundaries. This is beyond dangerous especially with women in your age group.
Here is how your adorable Red Pill adventure is going to end. You are going to use your Alpha PUA tricks to attract a woman. Your going to be really happy with your success.
But in reality there was no success. You are just firmly in Beta Provider zone. The succsesful person isn't you it's the woman who caught the beta provider whale.
Then over months or maybe years women will spend your money and time. You won't be able to say no because you can't enforce boundaries for fear of being a bad guy.
Also if you are taking Kabala guarenteed you surround yourself with losers. The Kabala only has meaning when you have a strong theological foundation. The people taking Kabala without the appropriate prerequisites are hollow men searching for meaning in life aka not leaders. Hence why your relationships don't last more than 6 months.
In conclusion sighn up for boxing.
[–]daze0fyore-1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
I'm 28. I'm an attorney. I'm 6'2. I've had sex with over 70 women, just having trouble at this point in my life.
I'm definitely not taking advice from a user named "GayLubeOil."
In conclusion, go fuck yourself.
[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
I can assure you that telling me to go fuck myself, while definitely a dramatic gesture will in no way help you. Oh and the fact that I have upset you is all the evidence I need to know that I have succsesfuly diagnosed the problem.
After all, if I made the accusation that your mother is a cheap prostitute and that was not true you wouldn't get too upset.
However if I made the accusation and you started telling me about your height, your job and how many transvestites you slept with. It would be clear that you are trying to distract from the issue.
It would be clear that your mother jerks off hobos in poorly lit parking lots for meth money.
[–]daze0fyore-2 points-1 points0 points 9 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Go take some of that gay lube oil you love so much... lube up your ass and go ahead and do what naturally comes to you.
[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
All of us are doing what naturally comes to us. I am provoking beta males. You are thrashing about in impotent rage. Your mother is jerking off minorities in order to support her drug habit.
Such is the way of life. No need for mad.
[–]daze0fyore0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Keep provoking beta males like me, and you'll get your ass beat. I'll make sure you throw the first punch so you'll end up in prison, putting that gay lube oil to use.
[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Even in your response it's clear that you don't believe that you can kick my ass. How disempowering that my ass has to be beat by an imaginary third party because you don't believe in your ability.
[–]daze0fyore-1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
that you don't believe that you can kick my ass. How disempowering that my ass has to be beat by an imaginary third party because you don't believe in your ability.
Ok, dude. I'm done with you. Hope you got your kicks by being a pathetic troll.
[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Most people in your situation would threaten to kick my ass themselves. However for your fantasy to be fulfilled a lot of third parties have to spontaneously act on your behalf.
My question is why all the need for intermediaries? Especially in a hypothetical situation that will never happen. Your mind is powerful enough to allow you to become a lawyer but not powerful enough to allow you to imagine yourself kicking anyone's ass.
Your subconscious won't allow you to even type I'ma kick your ass because that's how much doubt you have of your masculinity.
[–]daze0fyore0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Haha. I feel bad for you man. THIS is how you spend your time.
[–]GayLubeOil2 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Why do you feel bad? This is also how you spend your time. This is how we spend our time.
[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
to get me to open up and not reciprocating. I think that it's a test.
It's a test. Best way is to open up a tiny bit them clamp back down on it. Tease her a bit with emotional availability, then yank it away from her.
If they want to see my sensitive side, they'll have to earn it.
Don't show them much of it, especially before sex.
Let them be vulnerable, and prove themselves to you. After they've earned it, you can open up with them.
Why are you so determined to open up to them at all???
I'm still holding out hope that a woman will like me for me
hmmmmmmm maybe a bit. Up to a point. Terms and conditions apply. Even if she does somewhat like you, it's still 100% conditional on the circumstances, subject to change, and temporary. Maybe an hour, maybe a year, maybe three years. Sooner or later it will end.
Still respect women as much as men in non-dating aspects
Respect is earned. Don't hand out unconditional respect to anyone.
When they ask you a question that's kinda boring, don't answer it
Yes. Ignore low value questions/comments, as they're beneath your value threshold.
[–]daze0fyore0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Very good advice man. I appreciate it.
I like the opening up and yanking away. Makes you seem like a brooding poet... They want to know the secrets but they've gotta earn it.
I like to open up because I'm a sensitive dude. Doesn't mean I'm not tough... I've just been through a lot of shit, so I like to talk about it when somebody asks. Not appropriate when you're first getting to know someone, but my ideal partner will offer emotional support down the line. It's a flaw I have, and I'm working on it. Going to the gym, taking kaballah, going to therapy, etc.
You are very right about the respect thing.
Still gonna hold out hope that a woman will like me for me... Because I've had it before! It exists! Usually women who have similar qualities to me get it. Doesn't mean I'm not gonna be the best version of me. Im not gonna make the stupid mistakes I was making before. (I probably will still do the bs occasionally, if I'm being honest, but I'm gonna shake it completely with practice).
I'll definitely continue reading this sub.
Thank you again.
[–]Endorsed ContributorLastRevision1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
I'll do you one better- you don't have to be alpha at all to get a girlfriend.
The question becomes: what kind of relationship do you want?
Any woman who has been genuinely attracted to you has been attracted to alpha male characteristics, and these characteristics lead her to believe that you were the best man she could get to date her. The younger she is, the likely more genuine this sentiment will be- older women may still be attracted to you thinking that you're the best she can do at that time, but having had more promiscuous sexual experience, you're not only competing with whom she can presently ensnare, but with every man she's ever been with. We call this concept the "Alpha Widow," and it's become a rapidly growing phenomenon in a world of free sex and online dating.
Even if a guy doesn't know he's displaying alpha male characteristics, even if he's completely unaware of the Manosphere and red pill theory, it is still what garnered genuine attraction from a woman. We call this "natural game"; and every man has developed it to some degree. I likened it to the missile launching sequence from Wargames in my blog post "The Cool Girl and the White Knight":
Sexual strategy is like that scene at the end of Wargames where Joshua the computer tries to launch nuclear weapons and start World War 3; the computer cycles-through launch codes quickly while keeping the bits of code that are a positive match. Most people unconsciously allow their brain to do this work, matching behaviors with their positive outcomes, and bookmarking those behaviors while discarding the ineffective.
Remember- beta and alpha is a spectrum; and, furthermore, each is a set of behaviors and characteristics. It's sometimes situational. When I was in high school I was the AMOG ("Alpha Male of the Group") with my friends; to a complete outsider, I'd look like some hot shit alpha, and I absolutely got pussy in high school due to this appearance. When I was in college, I struggled socially because I didn't have that same group of friends, with that same dynamic. You may find that you have an easier time displaying alpha characteristics with some girls, and not so much with other girls; this is due to the frequency, and intensity of "shit tests" the girl is giving you. Essentially a "shit test" is her trying to break-down your Alpha characteristics in order to examine their authenticity. Women love an alpha, as it speaks to a man's savvy and fit genetics, but loathe a man faking it.
Now, you can get a girlfriend without doing any of this- there are plenty of soy-filled blue pilled "Betamax" Barrys with girlfriend, but it's not because their women are genuinely attracted to them in the strictest physical sense. The girl may be misguided, low value, or with poor Barry for reasons alien from genuine attraction... and if she has any Sexual Market Value at all, she's very likely to cheat on Barry, dump Barry when someone attractive comes along, or long-con Barry and divorce rape him.
I don't know. I haven't been. Don't really want to be. Want to be my own man on my own terms.
... and it looks like you're headed in the right direction. Keep it up.
be my own man on my own terms.
I like your take on natural alpha traits... but is that last line an insult?
I think it's important to learn the skills needed to have confidence and practice basic sexual communication... Be the best man you can be. I don't think that men should become pessimistic about women, sex, and relationships, and become something that they fundamentally aren't. If everything is a complete show, she's going to find out eventually...
I've had sex with over 70 women. I'm not lying. I used David Deangelo's cocky comedy for the first 30. After that, I tried to use natural talent. But the large numbers don't make you happy. You gotta get the girls to stay.
I think it's a balance. Be true to yourself, but know the BS that happens unconsciously so that you can deal with it appropriately.
Kaballah teaches that you need to recognize your faults, and fix them... you will be rewarded in turn when you make these corrections. Maybe that's what you're driving at.
I myself need to be more guarded, less needy, more critical of women, value myself more, and get in better shape (10 out of 30 pounds lost). That's what it's all about IMO.
I thank you for the advice though... I'm going to apply the things you said that resonate.
[–]Endorsed ContributorLastRevision1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Of course not. I don't do petty online insults- that's bitch behavior for people with too much time on their hands.
Being your own man is always a good direction to go in, and certainly an alpha male trait. Not that you should be an island, or a lone wolf, but think for yourself and decide what's best for yourself while being open to new ideas and good advice.
[–]stonepimpletilists 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Dickriding GLO... again, because he nailed it.
Do you have to be completely alpha to get a gf? I don't know. I haven't been. Don't really want to be. Want to be my own man on my own terms.
I seek the validation that only a woman can give me. I cannot explain why, I only feel it. I will provide the most basic lip service to lifting weights, because I wish to persuade you that it's important. I mention it like I read about it in a book, and use the word testosterone, because that's important to men, right?
Now i will disgregard any behaviours that come with elevated testosterone, hoping that you don't know this and call me out on it. I also hope you equate my feelings with higher testosterone, like any normal healthy man, feelings are the key. I use words that sound good. Principled... Driven. No idea what they mean, I read them in our corporate vision statement. I also stole the idea from my resume, add some action words in front of my beta behaviours, to make them sound more dynamic. Fiercely intelligent, way better than those timid intelligences. I then give a complete bullshit contrast, charismatic and awkward, because then I have all bases covered!
Now, after spending too many words describing my sensitivity, my beta behaviours, I'm telling you... I have a hard edge! I'm sensitive, charming, and awkward, but all they see is the Mighty Oak. I mean, they never touched my dick or anything, but they said nice words, which is just as good right? Perhaps my amazing job that none of you will have is a factor? Oh, I know people with amazing jobs love to talk about them. I'm just going to allude to it, and hope you picture whatever your amazing job would be... thats the one I have, k?
I just saw a post on negging, so I'll add some of that, but use the stupidest language for it. This was the Awkward I talked about it before, but trust me, it's also charismatic. I'll word it all like a writingprompt post, which means I'm not doing it, but trying my damndest to give you the same emotions as if I did.
Now here comes the hard sell. I'm telling you to act like a chick, but I'll hedge it. You won't change your mind, but I'll get you to dip a toe into acting like a whiney cunt. It's just a toe man, I swear it works!
Throw in some "Please don't doxx me ladies, I like you a lot, unlike these other guys" To cover my bases when I get popular, and then when I snag one with my 'authentic' charismaticly awkward closed openeness, I can be the same bitch I always was.
TRP has the best parlor trick, eh?
TLDR; translation from cuck to english
[–]daze0fyore0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
n that only a woman can give me. I cannot explain why, I only feel it. I will provide the most basic lip service to lifting weights, because I wish to persuade you that it's important. I mention it like I read about it in a book, and use the word testosterone, because that's important to men, right? Now i will disgregard any behaviours that come with elevated testosterone, hoping that you don't know this and call me out on it. I also hope you equate my feelings with higher testosterone, like any normal healthy man, feelings are the key. I use words that sound good. Principled... Driven. No idea what they mean, I read them in our corporate vision statement. I also stole the idea from my resume, add some action words in front of my beta behaviours, to make them sound more dynamic. Fiercely intelligent, way better than those timid intelligences. I then give a complete bullshit contrast, charismatic and awkward, because t
K. Not even going to read your post. I'm sure you're a fucking stud on the other end of the computer screen. Probably would crap yourself if you saw my in person.
Translation: from english to cuck... go suck a dick.
[–]stonepimpletilists 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Too bad. That would be the furst action within this post.
Was hoping youd take first steps.
And its not hard to find me, im on twitter and wrote what ive done and learned
[–]daze0fyore-1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
HA. I give 0 shits about what you've done. Only a fucking puss kicks someone when they're down. You're not welcome to comment on my shit.
[–]DigitallyDisrupt2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
We're not your journal or dear diary.
[–]daze0fyore-1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I fucking love these "alpha" trolls. Haha.
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