We believe in harmony, not "equality"

Nutz76 · 2013-07-18T19:06:07+00:00

I'm a fan of equal opportunity, not equal result. Finding balance is key in all of this.

[deleted] · 2013-07-18T18:56:07+00:00

We believe in the only equality that matters—the law must hold everyone, regardless of their proclivities and tendencies, to the same fair standard.

Now, I'm going to be a dick for a moment. I don't stand for yin-yang. I don't stand for an idealized notion of "harmony" or "balance".

Yes, I agree that relationships with specific roles for its partners tend to be less adversarial and more harmonious, and I agree that the sexes (non-coincidentally) have tendencies which make them natural fits for complementary roles.

If that works for you, do it. You should have that right.

I stand for people being allowed to make themselves feel happy, purposeful, and successful, as long as they don't trample others against their will. I stand for people being allowed to share their observations and conclusions without being outlandishly accused of opposing equality.

"Swallowing the red pill" doesn't mean I'm part of a general movement toward any specific gender roles. It just means I've chosen to find what works best for me.

ss_camaro · 2013-07-18T18:20:14+00:00

We are programmed to be the dominant gender, as they are to be the submissive gender.

They'll take what they think they can get away with. That's the 'program'.

Maschalismos · 2013-07-18T19:44:47+00:00

You have me at the title! I'll buy this for a hundred dollars for sure. Women and men are as "equal" as dogs are to cats.

favours_of_the_moon · 2013-07-19T02:03:58+00:00

It's true. We as men, are NOT "defective women."

Women are not the same as "men without penises."

HOWEVER, I would also say that there is an element of excellence involved. Men have to work hard, provide, take the shitty end of the stick.

We will respect anyone, including women as equals, when they earn that respect by proving that they truly are equal.

The problem is that many women skate by just on the fact that they have a vagina. They try to use that to skate by for free, then they want to claim that they've accomplished as much or more than us.

Ain't happening.

AlwaysLateToThreads · 2013-07-18T20:02:18+00:00

A wise man once said..."Down with equality! Up with equity!"

[deleted] · 2013-07-19T08:32:22+00:00

G.K. Chesterton: men are specialists, women are generalists.

Lama Ole Nydahl: men are like a laser, focusing on one point, women are like a radar, picking a lot of signs up from all directions.

PimpinLarge · 2013-07-19T02:41:21+00:00

Yin-Yang is idealized.

In reality, we do not fit that neatly, like a jigsaw puzzle.

It's more like two parts of two different jigsaw puzzles. Some pieces fit and some are still sticking out here and there.

Evolved beings are a bunch of kludges stuck on top of other kludges. There is no "perfect". There is only what led to survival and reproduction in a violent world, that led to us sitting here right now.

Here's the plan nature had for you:

Take your same genes and imagine yourself in a tribal village. You would spend your life subsisting, and probably wouldn't get a woman until later on when one of the more dominant men died (probably in a age-old blood feud with someone in another village) and someone had to take his wife in as their new (old) wife. Probably, it was your older brother's wife.

There isn't a large selection of attractive women to begin with, in this tribal structure, as villages are small.

So you get this one woman, maybe a 4 or a 5 out of 10, who already has a few kids. You pork her, maybe have some kids yourself, most of whom die in childhood from infection or disease.

This state of affairs goes on day after day until you get a small cut that gets infected and you die too. (Penicillin doesn't come on the scene until 1942.)

There you go. You got to spend time fishing with your buddies and talking about shit, but nobody knew anything so most of what you talked about was nonsense. Nobody can read or write and nobody understands anything about why things happen. Everyone believes in spirits, and spirits are responsible for every event that doesn't have an obvious immediate proximate cause.

Your woman doesn't know anything either but she is still programmed to be nagging and annoying. (Not even kidding, go watch tribal documentaries and clips on YouTube.) Fortunately, you grew up the way nature intended, as a chauvinist, and you and she BOTH know what her place is. The men hang out together (getting high or away from the village hunting), and the women hang out together (with the children).

On the downside, when you are back from hunting, she constantly nags you to do manly duties and increase your social rank. You can beat her but if she's actually hurt then she's not feeding you or doing her other duties or taking care of the kids. And if her mouth still works then she will keep nagging. If you kill her then there's nobody to do womanly chores, and you can't do them because you're a man. You'd have to take in one of the grannies. There are zero single hot women, everyone is claimed by someone. There might be one 8 in the whole village.

Life was always a bunch of crap you had to deal with, punctuated by temporary escapes (going hunting with your buddies, which was mostly just to get away from the women) to delay going insane long enough for something to kill you while still relatively young.

Everything was the same your whole life. Nobody invented anything new. People told the same stories over and over. The social structure never changed. Your role never changed. You knew your place and it didn't even matter whether you liked it because there weren't any options. So you didn't bother thinking about whether you were fulfilled, since all you had to learn from was what you saw right in front of you, with people who grew up the exact same way you did. That's all there was.

Then technology came along, and guess what? We could put our excess brain capacity to new uses.

So now we can envision better worlds and better ways of experiencing life.

But there are no existing pieces that fit perfectly. You can't just take the bits that fit, because they are attached to entire people, who have all this other cruft sticking out every which way that doesn't fit at all.

No matter how much you try to line things up, it never all fits right, and so you either toss her away or you say "fuck it" and wrap duct tape around the two of you. But there are hairs and crud and it doesn't stick perfectly and is only a temporary band-aid.

So, there are two actions that will improve your situation:

Accept a wider range of parts (have fewer total requirements) so you are more easily pleased and less frequently displeased
Engineer better parts. Create virtual (or robotic) replacements that are very narrowly tailored to your specifications.

Time is running out on biological women. It is so easy to improve upon their design, and the improvements men want actually make women better people.

Since women are incapable of these feats of engineering, they won't be replacing men; but if men created intelligent Androids for women, it's quite easy to see that women want would just turn the male robots into sociopaths.

Men want looks from their fembots, and then awesome behavioral traits.

Women want asshole personality traits, and then social status that requires her circle of friends to be below her.

It is actually possible for male brains to be happy. It is not possible for female brains to be happy, because they have mutually-conflicting requirements that cannot be satisfied simultaneously.

Title	We believe in harmony, not "equality"
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Date	July 18, 2013 4:23 PM UTC (13 years ago)
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