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Side note: it's never been disclosed but many people believe John F Kennedy was one of the men in this study.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 03:29 AM
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Do you not like sex itself, or the aftermath?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/16 01:12 AM
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Women don't stop maturing at 18 or whatever TRP says. Don't believe it. You're only 21. In 10 years you'll look back and be shocked at how much you've changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/16 01:12 AM
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I've had roughly three dozen partners, gotten tested regularly (most recently was in December) and am clean. Maybe I'm just lucky. In fact, one of those partners actually had herpes and disclosed it to me ahead of time. We were careful and she wasn't having an outbreak -- she said she had only had two over the course of 10 years. She is now married with a child. That said, I already knew the statistics about how common it was and didn't freak out when she disclosed it. This was about 7 years ago…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/16 02:37 AM
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Yeah, I can see where it comes from. I went through a similar evolution. I stopped reading PPD regularly a while back because I felt like I my thinking on all this had reached the point where I didn't need any more input. Plus it tends to be the same thing over and over. I come back every now and then just to see if anything's changed. It hasn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/16 11:13 PM
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Disagree. One of the number one complaints of career-oriented women is not being taken seriously. Being perceived as shallow only exacerbates the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/16 10:40 PM
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I always thought fanaticism was a negative thing, but this literally makes it sound like loyalty and group bonding. HOW IS THERE ANYTHING WRONG WITH THIS? I'll go with: overwhelming sense of identity It's one thing to join a gang for protection or a feeling of solidarity. It's another thing to go out and beat the shit out of a random stranger in order to prove you belong.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/16 10:38 PM
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apparent lack of interest in changing the world Or they're pretty satisfied with the status quo. Or they're cynical. I'm both (though a male). I was politically active for about 10 minutes in my early twenties but quickly grew cynical.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/16 10:36 PM
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The question I have is, what did those women do later on? Did they continue to fuck 20% guys at every opportunity, or decide they didn't like it? My money is on the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/16 10:18 PM
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women in general... [can] get sex anytime they want That's like saying I (a man) can get into a bar fight any time I want. Sure, I can, but I don't want to. Despite the sex-positive feminist rhetoric, the vast majority of women don't like casual sex. They may try it a few times, but according to surveys the overwhelming majority of women find it unsatisfying. Porn feeds the male fantasy/nightmare that there are hordes of women out there who can and do fuck dozens of guys. Porn women can, but the…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/16 10:16 PM
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nce you do settle for them they're extremely likely to divorce I think you need to clarify demographics. For example, the divorce rate in which both partners are college-educated is only about 10%. It's about 20% for people who only finished high school or some college. (The oft-cited 50% figure includes people with multiple marriages. If a woman gets divorced twice, and her best friend stays with one guy, the "divorce rate" for the two is 66%.)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/16 10:10 PM
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The affirmative action stuff is nonsense. Labor is a market. As a company executive it behooves you to find the best available talent at the best available rate. However in tech and engineering all the skilled people are men Think that might have an effect on salary negotiations? I speak as someone who has co-founded eight companies and hired many engineers over the years, and quite a few women. Recently I did hire a woman programmer, but in my 20 years of doing this it's been hard to even get w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 02:21 AM
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He doesn't talk about it as much these days as when he wrote as Roissy. But here are a few links: https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2012/10/04/the-problem-with-single-women-having-the-vote/ https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2012/11/08/thanks-suffrage/ https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2011/05/12/when-will-libertarians-grapple-with-the-fact-that-womens-suffrage-increased-the-size-and-scope-of-government/
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 01:34 AM
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has to pay men higher, because they can ask for more for the same job. Why not just hire a woman since she'll be less expensive? Why wouldn't all companies do this?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 01:26 AM
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Heartiste, etc. - don't bash on women C'mon. Heartiste? Who says women shouldn't have the right to vote?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 01:17 AM
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Just ask if they like animals. Practically all women do.
/r/askTRP17/02/16 09:43 PM
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How often do you eat pizza? Once a year?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 08:35 PM
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Girls are competitive. Get em in a group where men are scarce and they step up their game.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 12:34 AM
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Until recently I lived in a college town and used to go to a class near campus. In a typical class there would be 30 hot 18-22 year olds and five guys. Some of them were shockingly beautiful. Maybe it's different where you are but where I live a huge percentage of the population is fitness fanatics. Not just yoga, but riding bikes everywhere, rock climbing, Crossfit etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 12:05 AM
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Wishful thinking. If a guy enjoys rape and pursues it for his pleasure, he has made a moral choice. Anything you do that interacts with another human has a moral component. Even if you're just paying for coffee at the 7-11, your interaction with the clerk has a moral framework, and a decision to violate it OR stay within it is a moral choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 06:29 PM
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Women who have worked through their issues are far more interesting and empathetic than those who've never had to struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 04:39 PM
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"Sexual strategy is amoral" refers to species-wide behaviors, not individuals. Humans are the only animal (that we know of) with a well-developed sense of morality. Therefore its impossible for a conscious human (i.e. an adult) to relate to other humans in an amoral context. All interactions have a moral component.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 04:37 PM
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Every action and belief has consequences. RP men don't get a pass.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 04:34 PM
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What if she's already going to therapy, perhaps even already gotten over it? Only about a third of women who are forcibly raped even develop trauma symptoms, and only a third of those suffer long-term problems. IOW if you go out with a rape victim the odds are 66% she was able to deal with it, and over the long term it's over 90%.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 04:30 PM
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Go to a yoga class sometime. Not the basic stretching one, but something hardcore like Bikram. It's overwhelmingly made up of hot women who are working like hell to stay hot. The hottest woman do much more than paint their faces. They eat well and work out too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 04:21 PM
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Why would a woman have a negative reaction to that? If anything she would feel special because she might think she brings you out of your shell. I assume you know that book was written by a woman. Her #1 rule is "be authentic." Hell, you can even talk about your insecurities. Vulnerability is attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 04:18 PM
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South Korea was run by a dictator for many years, but the US didn't intervene when it transitioned to democracy. That's what the North Korean leadership fears.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 04:09 PM
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I don't believe in free will. The force that compelled me to that point of view is the same as everything else I do: a combination of inputs, brain chemistry, genes and probably even gut bacteria. By "inputs" I mean food, drugs, life experiences and/or parenting.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 04:07 PM
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I was going to same the same thing. He was hiding something, which made her wonder what else he was hiding. Whenever I get complimented on my body I always say "thanks, I worked hard to get it and keep it." It never turns negative afterward.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 04:02 PM
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Well, you have to actually do the spiritual retreats and learn something in the process. If you're just spouting nonsensical platitudes it's no different than bragging about the cool car you drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 04:00 PM
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There's power, then there's leadership and influence. I suppose a king can rule by decree, but if he doesn't have influence or a willing flock of followers, he spends his whole life watching his back. That's basically how Sadaam Hussein had to live. Compare it to the late King Hussein of Jordan. He was widely admired even though he was one of the few Arab rulers to make peace with Israel. He ruled through influence instead of raw power.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 03:58 PM
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Discovering how to protect myself from false rape accusations was empowering. Egad, how often do you find you need to use this advice? I've slept with dozens of women and never even had to think about it. If you truly are an aspie, though, I guess it's possible you misread signals at times.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 03:53 PM
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Nonsense. In my experience women love a guy who has worked on his shit. I've been to lots of therapy over the years and often bring up that fact on the very first date. It's never been a problem and often leads to interesting conversational threads. Try bringing up Voice Dialogue sometime. Edit: and if you just want to stay in the realm of self-help like with Dale Carnegie, bring up The Five Love Languages, The Four Agreements or even Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 03:48 PM
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ditching macho pretensions That's not what it is at all. Maybe you should learn a little about it -- perhaps even try it -- before judging it. Did you read the Game? Neil Strauss and Mystery got a ton of action from exploring spirituality.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/16 01:30 AM
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I've talked to a lot of women (both whom I've dated and just friends of friends) about the various men's workshops I've gone to. They are uniformly all very interested and supportive. It's actually a nice way to deepen a conversation. Just mention the men's spirituality retreat I went to in Sedona and they're instantly hooked. And in some circles the women know who David Deida is and are really intrigued to hear what his workshops are like.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/16 10:56 PM
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despise RP loves that word: "Women despise betas. Women despise men who are trying to empower themselves." It's kind of narcissistic to assume someone must have strong emotions toward you. If you're attractive, they're interested. If not, then she just doesn't think about you at all unless you act in a creepy manner. The same is true with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/16 10:53 PM
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I'm talking about the evolutionary instinct. A lot of RP is based on evolutionary pseudo-theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 08:19 PM
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Risking pregnancy & getting harassed for child support is rational? Yeah yeah you can talk about women forcing a beta to raise another man's child but that happens less than 5% of the time. Even the apex alphas get stuck with this. Tom Brady comes to mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 05:19 PM
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Would you call yourself a risk taker? Are you horny a lot? When you see guys on the street does your mind go to sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 04:48 PM
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A woman doesn't choose who to fuck or settle down with based on logic or morality. Neither do men. Edit: To clarify, choosing to fuck a girl just because she's hot is rather irrational. It makes more sense to choose someone who's demonstrated they are competent at life and can earn a high income.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 04:44 PM
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You're wrong. I've hung out with him and watched him work his magic. He's very bright and charming. He also has a good fashion sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 06:12 AM
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Not before he wrote The Game. Edit: And do your think he just walks up to girls and says "I wrote The Game, heard of it?" Most girls have not, and among those who have, a lot of them think it's a sleazy pickup book. It's not like he's instantly recognized wherever he goes. I've hung out with him and he's just a normal, smart guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 01:50 AM
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Neil Strauss, author of The Game, is 5'6".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 12:12 AM
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How short is "short?" 5'7"? 5'6"?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 11:08 PM
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It's a guy asking the question, and they want to impress him.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 11:05 PM
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I think both she and Scarlet Johansen are waaaaay overrated. Give me Amy Adams for the best combo of hotness and acting ability.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 06:03 PM
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Unless you're disfigured, getting in shape is good for the face too. You lose the baby fat and your jaw stands out more.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 06:09 PM
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you keep moving the goal posts. "Women are liars and you can't trust anything they say." "They tell the truth about rape fantasies but don't believe them."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/15 05:40 PM
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Many women have rape fantasies. Do you think those women want to be raped IRL?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 12:25 AM
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There was a study a while back where they found that if women do the asking they're more likely to get a higher SMV guy. I can't find the link but it involved different strategies applied in a dating game in which everyone was ranked on a 1-10 scale. The rankings were arbitrary, and you didn't know you're own ranking, you were just given the task of matching with the highest number who was willing to match with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 12:04 AM
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For the same reason I did? I didn't like the work I was doing, discovered I was good at computers and enjoyed them, and just kept playing around with them. A few months ago I hired a woman programmer in her mid-twenties. She went to one of the bootcamp code schools and does good work. She's attractive and seems socially aware enough. She started doing software after she was in a car accident and couldn't work for a few months, and her mom need help with some statistical modeling. She started pla…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/15 03:17 AM
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And you know this from personal experience? And I didn't start seriously programming until my mid-twenties. It's not something you have to start at a young age to be successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/15 02:50 AM
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Most programmers don't have "notable" technical achievements. There are lots of male programmers at Google and Facebook that you never heard of. Hell, I'm a programmer and I don't. But I know software well enough to run a development team PS Try Googling harder. Kim Polese helped create Java. She co-founded one of the first "push" companies when that was all the rage in the late 90s.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/15 11:35 PM
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Off the top of my head: Carol Bartz Kim Polese Marissa Mayer They're not necessarily brilliant programmers, but they all studied computer science and built substantial careers in tech. They also are known to be product people who understand the technology. In the current generation, Jessica Mah comes to mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/15 06:53 PM
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Eh, maybe. I guess in a pure state of nature men peak at 20, but that doesn't account for money, fashion sense and all the other indicators of status. Also, if you're overweight at 20 but in great shape at 25, which do you think will be more attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/15 03:04 AM
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How is the prostitution angle not relevant? I didn't see them mention it in the study.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 07:31 PM
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A letter to the editor is your proof? And even the letter concedes the case of prostitutes may affect the numbers. In the US, 15-20% of men have seen prostitutes. I doubt even 3% of women have worked as prostitutes (that works out to five-seven clients per man). This estimate says 1%. So if you're doing a random sample of 1000 people, you'll get 150-200 men whose number is affected by paying sex workers, and only 30 women whose number is affected by being a prostitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 06:43 PM
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You win a prize! You can find it in /r/iamverysmart
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 02:55 PM
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I strongly suggest you not try to make all those changes at once. Take one and focus on it for 21 days, minimum. Once you've established that habit, take up another.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 02:54 PM
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I only just saw this post and the video is no longer up.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 02:52 PM
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No they aren't "notorious liars." They are suspected by some of lowering their number, just as men are suspected by some of inflating theirs. Jesus, you guys can't think but in absolutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 02:51 PM
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And you know what? You can opt out of those discussions. You don't have to talk about something over and over. Really.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 02:45 PM
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See what I mean? Not all of us spend all day combing comment histories and judging other users.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 02:44 PM
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You may be shocked to find that even regular commenters like me don't keep a running catalog of every poster. However, you're being so disagreeable, and your post history is so frequently assholey, that I now know to expect assholey comments from /u/steelpuppy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 12:08 AM
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I know I said AMA, but I've had this conversation way too many times. Why not link to some of those convos?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 12:02 AM
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If grid (and you) can't be bothered to remember a thing about OP I don't often look at usernames. I prefer to discuss things based on the content presented.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 11:58 PM
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Yes I know Grid. I also know that her comment and question does not "reveals that you are a pampered person, you have a very easy life."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 07:05 PM
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Kudos to you for getting your relationship back on track.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 01:55 PM
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That is completely wrong, and reveals that you are a pampered person, you have a very easy life. Actually, that statement reveals a lot more about you. You don't mention anything about self-improvement in your OP, then you snidely jump down the throat of someone asking a question and offering suggestions. And you don't ask anything of the questioner to confirm your on-the-spot judgment. You're coming across like a woman who expects a guy to "just know" how to behave i.e. read her mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 01:53 PM
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Maybe, but in this particular case wouldn't it be at least a little offset by the common phenomenon of women going back to their abusers?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 10:32 PM
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LOL there's actually a Crossfit gym just down the street and I often see them running by at the beginning of class. I did Crossfit for a couple years but got sick of it. Been doing yoga for three years now.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 02:18 PM
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Eh, maybe. Adolescence is when boys and girls look to peers more than parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 01:23 AM
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Could be, but there are still huge differences in alcoholism, which probably plays a role in domestic violence as well. Edit: why, in your view, is it women who always like, i.e. "trumping up" charges? Do you really think men are less likely to lie? I don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 01:19 AM
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Enthusiasm and adventurousness
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 11:32 PM
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Not power lifting, but I do a form of yoga that uses weights. I'm in very good shape and have muscles on the larger size. Not swoll, but most guys I meet have smaller muscles than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 11:31 PM
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Do you think the majority of men "in nature" are alpha males with harems? Is it even 1/3rd? I'd bet more like 5%. They can't vacuum all the available women or no other guy would get to mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 11:29 PM
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This site has better info on why people divorce. Men are much more likely to be abusive and alcoholic. I agree that women are more likely to divorce in general (i.e. the thing with lesbians).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 11:26 PM
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Where is she getting 80%? I can't find it any of the tables on the site she links to. Edit: this site has more info about why respective genders file for divorce. Note the huge discrepancies when it comes to alcoholism, physical and emotional abuse. My ex divorced me basically because of my alcoholism, so it's consistent with my data point of 1. Another edit: this site has more about alcoholism. Men are twice as likely to be alcoholics as women, so it makes sense that a lot more women might divo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 11:17 PM
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I'm purple but two things annoy me about RP: Use of the word "hypergamy" as it proves something about women. One may as well use the word "hot." Yes, I understand that women use different criteria than men when evaluating partners. But worrying about whether your gilrfriend will "yield to her hypergamic instincts" is no different than her wondering if you will chase after a hotter piece of ass. I think they just like using novel words. "Sexual strategy is amoral." It's an ignorant misreading of …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 07:36 PM
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Where are you getting the 80% number from? The most I've seen in the research literature is ~60%.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 06:49 PM
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That video operates on the assumption that women are the "gatekeepers of sex".. Men are also gatekeepers! Do you not understand what a market is? A market is a place where you can exchange for something that the other person values at a level similar to what you are giving them. Men exchange commitment for sex. Women exchange sex for commitment. Note that I am NOT red. So anything you say about "terps" is irrelevant. The idea of a sexual marketplace long predates TRP and there are a lot of non-r…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 02:35 PM
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You don't need to boast to get validation. People seek validation in many ways, not just sexual. Transactional analysis provides a good model for how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 01:36 AM
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When you don't have an argument, non sequiturs are a great strategy. If you don't think there is a sexual market, consider that people smarter than you and me have thought it about a lot more than either of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 01:34 AM
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Did you even read what I wrote? If something came a long that made it so you never even had to wash the dishes i.e. they cleaned themselves automatically, dish soap would be extinct unless you're some hippie who likes artisanal locally grown dish soap. Now, look at the marriage market. People are marrying later, or not at all. There are more single moms than ever. That's because relationships are a market that responds to changes in the marketplace -- primarily divorce law and technology. Just b…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/15 10:21 PM
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Plus, I don't have to compromise on my dish soap. If it does a good job aside from leaving a film on my dishes I can just upgrade to a new one. Maybe it didn't even leave a film, but I like the packaging on another brand better. No compromise. This leaves out innovation. What if a device came along that made it where you didn't even need soap? Look at what Uber has done to taxis. Now look at what Tinder, porn and mail order brides has done for men. Men have more options than before, and that aff…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/15 07:13 PM
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A great movie that has a little bit of a RP vibe combined with insufferable Marxism is Together. It's Swedish.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/15 03:04 PM
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I generally agree, which is part of the reason I'm purple and not red. Most of the time anger is a useless emotion that temporarily lowers your IQ. If you're constantly angry you're also constantly stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 06:05 PM
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Many men like to suck cock as well. How does that make you feel? Fine by me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 06:04 PM
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Subculture basically comes down to what Mark Manson calls demographics. If there's a certain kind of girl you want to attract, you have to be congruent with her culture. And if that feels like "work" then you probably should re-think what you really want in life. Consider Neil Strauss, author of the Game. He used to have a receding hairline and dress like his mom picked out his clothes. But he was a writer for Rolling Stone and lived in LA, and he had a thing for rock & roll groupie chicks. So h…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 05:46 PM
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With you whipping your dick out, we would have to know how the women your whipping it out to feels about what is happening, because there is no implication here that she actually wants to have sex with you. Should you simply whip your dick out and expose it because you think it will lead to sex without any thought as to what she might think, yes, you have just sexually assaulted someone. You're making a shitload of assumptions. I can't speak for the guy who mentioned this, but I really doubt it …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 05:35 PM
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No it doesn't. It's socially acceptable for women to wear yoga pants, not for men. It's also socially acceptable for women to wear diamond rings but they don't do it to get attention from men. Edit: the larger point is yoga pants, for many people, are more comfortable than sweats.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 05:26 PM
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No idea. I've been blessed/cursed with staying power all my life, so much so that it can get annoying to partners. Even when I lost my virginity (which was basically a ONS) I lasted 45 minutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 03:00 PM
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Why would something skin tight get sucked in your butt crack? Ever worn boxer briefs?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 02:59 PM
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The obvious answer is that sweat pants don't get you as much male attention as do yoga pants. Skin tight is more comfortable to me, and I'm a guy. But I don't wear them in public because it's considered weird for a guy to wear that. Look at the popularity of Under Armour. Pro athletes often wear skin-tight shirts and extra-long, skin-tight boxer briefs. Hell, I wear those kinds of briefs (under shorts) in my own yoga class.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 02:58 PM
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And you mean to tell me you all are knowingly wearing this shit for "comfort?" You think women only concern themselves with men's opinion when they pick out what to wear? Do men do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 02:55 PM
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I think Haley's generally correct, but remember that she coaches men in seduction, so she has a vested interested in showing the optimistic side. I actually met her a few years ago in a workshop. Very sweet and smart girl .
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 02:53 PM
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The acting was terrible. A couple weeks ago I gave a homeless guy $5. He was so surprised, he looked at my (white) Infiniti and said "now I know why that car is cocaine white!"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 02:50 PM
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In my mind you have without a doubt sexually assaulted the women who clearly said no. So if a girl takes off her shirt and comes at me but I decline, have I been sexually assaulted? This has happened to me. I didn't feel violated. I just felt a little embarrassed for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 02:45 PM
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No idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 11:06 PM
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I doubt the average woman knows this about herself unless she's had at least a few partners. So until then her expected orgasms vs. actual orgasms will be the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 10:52 PM
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It makes a less attractive man appear as a good catch ("he'll do"), at least for a drunk, horny lady. Huh. "Beer goggles" is typically thought of as a male thing, but I suppose it's the same for women too.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 07:12 PM
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Same here. A dick with a hot girlfriend is still a dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 07:08 PM
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Could the problem be linked to a loss of masculinity in the US? Doubtful unless you believe all the other Western countries are more masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 06:13 AM
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It has also been shown through STUDIES that oxytocin levels change for women who sleep around, impairing pair bonding. Studies about oxytocin are regularly misinterpreted. Claims like yours are made by people with a political agenda, not scientists. http://io9.com/5606765/myths-about-the-love-hormone-oxytocin-that-could-ruin-your-love-life
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 01:52 AM
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I've met quite a few women who were virgins at marriage and now divorced. One was Mormon but left the church. The rest were atheist/agnostic/"spiritual but not religious." I suspect that partner count strongly correlates with religiosity Also, those women would not even count in the study because, even though they married as virgins and didn't cheat, post divorce they have more partners and so you're no longer looking at them in light of their pre-marriage partner count.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 07:00 PM
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Late 40s.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 02:38 AM
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Billion?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/15 06:27 PM
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Either way, I'd rather hang out with people who suppress the urge over those who indulge it. You shouldn't plan your life based on how people treated you in high school.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/15 06:10 PM
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No The emotions and thoughts are similar but the reasons behind the are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/15 04:23 AM
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High school is not the real world. People can be real dicks. Go to your ten year reunion and you'll see people generally are a lot nicer than the good old days, partly because they've been beat down by the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/15 04:21 AM
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Sorry, but I'm not buying. When I'm having an episode, exercise does not help. There is a really distinct physical sensation that accompanies it. It's indescribable but I know it when I feel it. I remember having an episode a few years ago, and I was in the best shape of my life. Exercising, eating well, no booze or drugs, and I was seeing a therapist. I was miserable. I got on Zoloft and a few weeks later the fog finally lifted. I still do therapy from time to time and recommend it to everyone.…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/15 05:06 AM
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We do not control what men want If you're talking about access to your vagina then, yes, you do control that. I think she meant what men desire. If men started desiring squirrels, should squirrels really give a shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/15 03:14 AM
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withering away in a retirement home for years on end. I plan to use that time to win all PPD debates.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/15 12:09 AM
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First thing when I meet a girl I think about dating her. That's not neediness. That's normal. It's how you choose to act on those thoughts that determines neediness.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/15 07:40 PM
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Have you tried therapy? Medication? Both have done wonders for me. I would have committed suicide long ago if not for those.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/15 07:38 PM
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“Whether you think you can, or you think you can't--you're right.” ― Henry Ford
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/15 07:37 PM
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If you're dick is 8", it's bigger than 99.5% of the population. Meaning a woman would have to fuck see the dicks of 200 guys to see just one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/15 07:30 PM
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When did you start measuring? When some woman mentioned it to you? I certainly didn't. I was probably 11 or 12. Sex, or for that matter even having a woman touch it, was still years away.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/15 07:27 PM
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Are you a man or a woman? I didn't say women prefer it, but neither do women prefer men who are 5'6". But if you have a deficit in one area (as we all do) you can make up for it in others. Short and small-dicked guys aren't an accident. A long line of short and/or small-dicked guys impregnated women for eons.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/15 07:01 PM
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Give it time. I sucked with women in college too. I suggest you knock off with the complaining about women. A lot of women your age are complaining about men too. Also, stop worrying about scaring her off. You can't lose what you never had. If she's "scared" of you, don't think about what a loser you are. Reframe it as you discovered that you're not compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/15 03:37 PM
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I'd be curious to learn more about that. I suspect transgender people lean feminist simply because feminists have been sympathetic to their plight (at least for the last 30 years).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/15 03:30 PM
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Get good with your hands. Seriously. I'm fortunate in that my dick is slightly above average, but no woman has ever said "I love your big dick." They have said I have amazing hands.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/15 03:28 PM
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Men measure everything. Everything. Sports? Created by men. The Oscars? Created by men. Ten Worst Dressed Women list? Created by a man. I have a slightly above-average penis size so its not an obsession of mine. But the fact that I know it's above average should give an indication of how a lot of men think.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/15 03:26 PM
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That is actually a great friend to have. It's extremely rare to meet someone who truly feels (not thinks about) what it's like to be on the other side.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/15 03:15 PM
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Depends on how your neediness shows up. Do you text a girl incessantly? Do you pour out your heart about unfair everything is? I personally don't have a problem with manipulating women when you're first starting out. But you'll ultimately need to develop inner confidence or the house of cards will collapse. It's okay to be vulnerable -- it's actually a key part of how I relate to women. It's complaining and constantly seeking validation that's a turnoff.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/15 03:13 PM
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Straight men do gay porn for money, so I don't see that you've proven anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/15 02:22 PM
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Yeah but do they enjoy the sex? The only reason she has sex with him is for the money. Incels are often counseled to see a prostitute, and they often respond that they want emotional intimacy that a prostiute can't provide. Women are fortunate in that they can get through sex just by putting some lube in the vagina. A man can't fake an erection. He has at least be horny enough to penetrate.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/15 12:42 AM
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"Prostitute" is a very broad job category that encompasses everyone from crack whores needing a fix to $5000/night escorts. Furthermore, oftentimes these studies don't look at other occupations. The first study you linked to says: But surprisingly near to 40% indicate that they like this kind of work. About one-third of the women are offering sex services for altruistic reasons, as they want to help. Thus, sex work obviously also serves very personal reasons; sex work can enhance self esteem, al…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/15 03:36 PM
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He is not into you sexually
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/15 02:08 PM
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Not true given his age. I started having ED issues in my early forties. Probably mostly from aging, but I suspect too much porn plays a role as well. Viagra is the bomb. I think of it as a recreational drug. EDIT: Now that I think about it I sometimes had problems in my early thirties, usually when I had been drinking. I remember one New Year's my then-girlfriend practically begged me to fuck her in the ass and I couldn't get it up. She was very hot too. Probably the most beautiful woman I've ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 10:46 PM
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It's not the invention of trucks that matters. It's the invention of objects. Primates have been using tools for millions of years.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 11:32 PM
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I've found that there are lots of attractive women with dominant behaviors in the workplace (think of a ball-buster attorney) who nonetheless want to be submissive in the relationship. They spend all day acting like a man, so when they come on they'd prefer to act (and feel) like a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 11:28 PM
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Bangable as in she just shows up at my doorstep and says fuck me? Or do I still have to seduce her? If the former, then probably 30%. If the latter, more like 10%. Also, it depends on where I am. In New York and LA there are more hot girls per capita.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 11:24 PM
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He didn't personally go bankrupt. Just some of his casinos did. He has a financial interest in well over a hundred businesses.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 07:03 PM
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On reddit there are more males than females.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/15 09:48 PM
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They were designed and hand-built by Steve Wozniak. Wozniak's friend Steve Jobs had the idea of selling the computer. That's a good point. Woz has said that he just wanted to make stuff and didn't really have an interest in starting a company.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/15 02:52 PM
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Jobs visited Xerox Parc by himself. Just for the record, he was only allowed to do that after selling a stake in Apple for $1 million. Access to Parc's tech was part of that deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/15 02:51 PM
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Steve Jobs designed the products and interfaces that set his company apart. More like he rejected thousands of designs from Jony Ives and others until they got it right. Come to think of it, a woman might be perfect for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 11:18 PM
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Jobs had a lot of women working for him too, and not just doing HR. Check out the original NeXT team.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 11:16 PM
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Right now, it's funny money and the $4.5 billion claim is apparently based on the fact that venture capitalists have paid $400 million for a 4.4% stake in the company. Of course, but the same was true of Mark Zuckerberg. He was declared a billionaire when VCs made similar-sized investments in Facebook. He wasn't a liquid billionaire until the IPO. Same is true today with the founders of Uber, Slack and a handful of other Silicon Valley pre-IPO unicorns.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 11:08 PM
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Look at who backs her. Henry fucking Kissinger is on the board? How did that happen? Kissinger sits on dozens of boards, so clearly some other people made it happen too. Also, once she has a patent on the technology, there is no need for "secrecy" like she is displaying. Absolutely not true. Many of Google's most important work is not patented because the patent filing itself might reveal trade secrets. Trade secrets can be even more valuable than patents.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 09:03 PM
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Walgreens is obviously selling something. - it's not just a brochure. The science may prove to be bad, but it's really fucking hard to start a company, raise $400 million, hire hundreds of lab technicians and get the world's largest drugstore chain to sell it. Theranos argues that secrecy is of critical importance to them. Reminds me of the guy mention in the OP. If it's fraud, it's extremely well executed. And it will be exposed and she'll go down like Bernie Ebbers. I'll wait and see.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 08:47 PM
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Ok, so maybe she's a fraud. If so then never mind. But if not... Remember when the Macintosh launched? I do. It was derided by "real" computer programmers for many years and generally considered a modest success at best for the first several years of its existence. The Lisa flopped.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 07:58 PM
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Who cares what she knows? There are tens of thousands of multi-millionaires that you and I have never heard of. Probably a few billionaires too. Do you know who Thomas Crapper is? He's responsible for one of the most important products in history, one that you and I use every day. He didn't invent it, but neither did Steve Jobs invent the graphical user interface.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 06:34 PM
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He wasn't a coder, but he was very knowledgable about electronics. He said Steve Wozniak was the first person he met who knew electronics better than he did, though presumably he hired a lot more geniuses as time went on.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 03:35 PM
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There kind of already is: Elizabeth Holmes. She's 31 and a billionaire. For comparison, Jobs wasn't a billionaire until he was forty. Everything I've read is that she's brilliant and relentless. But her company doesn't make consumer products so she's less well known.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 03:34 PM
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David Deida talks about polarization -- being the opposite of your partner in order to stimulate attraction. Not opposite as in having completely different interests, more along the lines of complementing the energy they put out . Usually that means the man should exhibit masculinity and women femininity, but occasionally they switch places (Deida claims about 10% of couples are this way).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 03:29 PM
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I'm not sure "despise" is the right word. Same here. I think that's RP solipsism. They despise a lot of women and assume women are the same. Not that I think all women are angels, but there's a difference between indifference to low SMV men and "despising" them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 02:49 PM
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There's legends told about the mythical hot female friend who will help you get laid. Lesbians are your friend in this regard.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/15 10:37 PM
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I am the only child of my parents, the only child on my father's side, and I was intentionally isolated from my mother's side. I am 30-something, single, and I have no children. You seem really invested in that identity, as if those facts encompass your entire existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/15 01:19 AM
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Dinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/15 12:39 AM
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How else would it come out? Would the guy just announce "hey, I'm RP?"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 09:44 PM
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African or Middle Eastern countries unrestrained by social expectations You cannot be serious. They have more social expectations covering everything from genital mutiliation to who can drive a car to punishing adultery with death by stoning. I do believe that culture evolves and that some cultures are more evolved than others. The West spent hundreds of years engaging in war and politics just so the church would not be such a dominant force in people's lives. Not surprisingly, the Catholic chur…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 04:13 PM
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Civilized humans are reproducing at below replacement rates while generally uncivilized humans are reproducing at well above replacement rates So you think, say, second-generation Mexican-Americas are inherently uncivilized? Living in the US for generations isn't going to civilize them?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 04:06 PM
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Try Medellin, Colombia. Gringo paradise.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 03:42 PM
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A couple years ago I spent three days in Budapest. I saw more absolute knockout women than I've seen in a week in New York.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 03:17 PM
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I've seen a few variations on this. I don't really see this as a female thing. If the dude offered me a ride I'd take it to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 03:15 PM
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OP is an older man who has to resort, no offense to OP, to websites where you pay women to date you No offense taken. Just wanted to note that just because I've used that site doesn't mean it's the only way I meet women. When I got divorced I decided that I would treat dating purely as entertainment. That site is pretty entertaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/15 10:21 PM
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probably about to be dumped Naw, we're still together. Some posters here don't believe it, but I really did post this just to see what kind of reactions people would have. I've dated a lot over the years, but this is a fairly uncommon situation for me, so I thought "I wonder what PPD would think?"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/15 10:19 PM
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I honestly think Trump is apolitical. He doesn't actually care about immigration. That an other issues are just stepping stones to creating the ultimate reality show.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 07:24 PM
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Why? Seems like an arbitrary distinction. Most people don't know much about the consequences of their actions except as they affect immediate friends, family and co-workers. Laws are written to deal with the edge cases and changing environment. Dumping toxic waste in the river was not a big deal 150 years ago because only a few companies did it and there weren't a lot of people. Nowadays there are many more companies and people who could be affected. So as a business owner, even if you don't kno…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 05:17 PM
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100 years ago, men were showing provider credentials and buying flowers and meals for girls. I was thinking about that last night. I know more than a few men from the post-WW2 generation who met a woman through friends or family, went on a few dates and proposed within two or three months. It seems like it was common back in the day, but these days someone who did that is viewed as emotionally unstable, or at least swept up in a crush.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 05:10 PM
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Do you think the VW guys get as much action as the drug dealer?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 11:35 PM
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THAT society has had tight control of women's sexuality, precisely because those folks understood what happens when you don't control it. Yeah but they had nothing on current day wahhabists. Do you seriously want to live in Saudi Arabia or Quatar? Do they represent the apex of civilized society because they understand "what happens when you don't control it.?" We don't live in Victorian England today because a long time ago people got sick of living in Victorian England.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 11:29 PM
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I view attraction to serial killers as the female version of a foot fetish. Some of them are into it, but most of them think it's rather wtf.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 11:23 PM
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The difference is that dying alone in a gutter has real-world, physical consequences that directly impact your quality of life. Unless you own a large company and have to think about who will take over when you're gone, it seems to me that worrying about your bloodline and legacy is just a form of neurosis.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 05:47 PM
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Oops
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 05:22 PM
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And I think the clear red pill advice is "Hey dude, keep getting laid. Just don't wife this one" That's more or less what I'm following. I included the marriage and kids stuff more to illuminate our respective situations than to suggest a likely path forward. I'm not in any hurry to wife her (or anyone) up.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 03:25 PM
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It doesn't suck because I don't mind and I can afford it. I've paid for sex several times and had a great time every time. Totally worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 02:33 AM
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Done. Catching a flight to Vegas tonight.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 02:27 AM
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Upvoted
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 02:15 AM
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This is actually the best RP advice I've seen in this thread. Definitely worth thinking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 02:14 AM
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Most of our "dates" are smoking a bowl and watching football games at her place, maybe order takeout.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 02:05 AM
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kicking or reducing her pot smoking That's actually something we've been talking about doing together.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 02:04 AM
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makes it really cringy. I just re-read it and it does sound cringy as written. What actually happened was, a couple times she spent the night but I didn't initiate sex because it was late and I was tired. I asked her if that bothered her and that's when she made that comment. She has never rejected sex with me. If anything it's the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 02:03 AM
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I think it's math for "fucked."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 01:59 AM
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I've actually done sugar daddy arrangements a few times. $150 is not even enough for sex one time. If she's viewing me as a sugar daddy she has low standards (ha!)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 01:46 AM
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Also, you should be open with her about your expectations for the relationship I told her at the very beginning that our age difference and different life circumstances mean that it's unlikely to last long.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 01:43 AM
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increased likelihood of fathering autistic kids Hence my trepidation about having kids at my age. Likelihood of depression is higher too, which is doubly scary for me because I suffer from depression.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 01:26 AM
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Duly noted. Pregnancy is almost impossible for me because 1) I choose the condoms and 2) I don't come during sex. I rarely come at all because I'm on Zoloft.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 01:25 AM
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(I won't necessarily follow your advice. I'm just curious what you say.)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 01:20 AM
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your "shit test" comment Yeah that's the biggest red flag I've seen so far. I rarely encounter that kind of behavior but have seen it enough to know how to respond. She hasn't done anything like that since then though. Edit: And she's never brought up kids. I did.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 11:08 PM
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Let's pretend for a moment that I am a sugar daddy. What does that entitle me to? What responsibilities do I have? So far I've invested a grand total of about $150 in this relationship. We've had sex several times and spent the night five or six times.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 11:03 PM
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There is nothing I can say to change your mind so I won't try.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 10:54 PM
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Ha, one of the ones I dated had a baby with a 50 yo guy who "rescued" her from the sex worker lifestyle. She was a really hot 25 yo when I dated her, you would never guess she's a MILF. BUT... he ended up dumping her (they never married) because, in her words, "he prefers chasing other 25 year old girls." I guess HE should have been the red flag to HER.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 10:04 PM
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Don't end up being a rich middle aged guy who is not loved. I have a really great circle of friends and relatives. I feel very loved, especially as I've gotten older. Seriously. I used to worry "but what about when I get old?" until I realized that nothing in life is guaranteed. Then I started focusing on making NOW the best NOW possible and life got a lot easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 09:56 PM
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I would like to have had kids but at my age think it's unlikely. Then again, a college buddy of mine just had his first kid last year, and an older friend of mine had a daughter in his early fifties and seems to be loving it. My ex-wife and I tried to have kids but she couldn't get pregnant. I'm pretty sure she's the one with the broken body parts because she's since remarried to a good Christian fella, has tried to have kids but has not succeeded. (To my knowledge, she lives in China now so I d…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 09:50 PM
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alcoholic strippers that prostitute their time aren't good for anyone. It's been great for me so far, but I have very low expectations of this fling over the long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 09:44 PM
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This is the best advice I've seen so far ITT.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 09:42 PM
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You have to remember that this is just one example from my dating life. In the same period I've known this girl, I've also met and fucked two other girls. One closer to my age (though still 10+ years younger) and another who's also 24. I decided not to see either of them again (they both asked to meet again). I'm not trying to lock this one down by any means. The mental illness and substance abuse are big red flags. But they're both true of me as well so it's not like I'm unfamiliar with that wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 09:41 PM
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Fair enough. It's not like I have a lot invested so far.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 08:55 PM
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If you've lead anywhere near a normal life then you wouldn't wish that upon your son. Just to play it out for you... Raised upper middle class. Parents stayed together. They weren't lovey-dovey but they were reasonably affectionate and never fought in front of the kids. Grew up in the country with pets, horses, cows, chickens Good student Went to an elite private college Have been an entrepreneur for 20 years. Was briefly a dot-com millionaire and have learned a lot about wealth -- how to get it…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 08:54 PM
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That's true. But it's mostly Chipotle and the like. Last night was ice cream from Diary Queen. I'm a big spender.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 08:48 PM
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I actually expected a lot more RP hate than praise.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 08:29 PM
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I used to have a very romantic view of relationships. Then I got divorced, explored the world, slept with a lot of women and now am basically a hedonist. I think "mid-life crisis" should be renamed "mid-life fuck yeah!" I would want my son to experience all that life has to offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 08:27 PM
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Ha, I actually dated a woman with herpes about five years ago. She's married with a kid now.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 08:24 PM
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Well when you put it like THAT... :-)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 08:23 PM
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He was really, really exceptionally bad at handling conflict/bad times. Huh. I would say I'm pretty good at that, but not when I was younger. That's definitely been one of the benefits of aging for me personally. Plus twenty years of on & off therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 08:22 PM
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The fact that you have even considered this before she brought it up is a flag. I didn't mention it in the OP, but she did bring it up after about three weeks and probably 6-8 hookups in that time. Edit: and I may as well answer a couple other questions: Are you invited to these parties or is she bb? Not yet. She doesn't party much these days because her job requires her to be at work at 6 am and also because she's taking college classes part time. Does she provide YOU with said extras? Yes. She…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 08:04 PM
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I'm in really good shape. She often squeezes my muscles unconsciously.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 07:59 PM
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but her not wanting to have sex every time she sees you Good point. But then again I feel the same way. I don't always escalate with her. Sometimes I like to just chill on the couch too. Marijuana makes me lazy. A couple times I've thought about escalating but thought "naw, I'm too tired and need to get up early for work."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 07:58 PM
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A couple of the most empowered, staunchest childfree women I know went completely the other direction when they passed 35 FWIW I know a couple who did not change directions. One in particular is my age (we dated for about a year) and practically every time I see her she jokes about how she's glad she doesn't have kids. She was married as a virgin too and stayed with him for 16 years. She never even left her hometown until her mega-company employer whose name rhymes with frugal invited her to rel…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 07:54 PM
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I'm not looking for anything in terms of validation. I was just curious what other folks would say. (And I know I'm certainly not a unicorn, so I don't expect that of her either.)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 07:50 PM
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I met my ex at her age and he was your age. Interesting! If not for the non-age-related troubles you guys had, could you imagine having stayed with him?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 07:48 PM
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I have a woman friend in the same situation. Her husband is 25 years older. They've been together at least 16 years that I'm aware of, maybe longer. He's a professor, and she's very successful -- makes six figures running sales for a hot startup. It wouldn't shock me to learn she has millions in the bank. I've thought about calling her to her perspective on things but I'm not sure we're close enough for me to feel like it's okay to ask about her relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 07:41 PM
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You don't have much that would keep her interest over the long run. Bbbbbbut we both like football?! ;-)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 07:36 PM
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A few years ago I dated a woman with BPD who had Asperger's as well. She was very hot and charismatic, but also nuts. I learned a lot about myself from that relationship. I haven't seen anything like those red flags in this gal (so far).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 07:31 PM
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Have you dated a lot of former sex workers? I've dated a couple casually but never for more than a month.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 07:29 PM
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We've had lots of sex, starting with the second time I saw her.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 07:26 PM
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I have fairly low expectations from relationships. Not because I think they are all doomed, but because I feel like I have a pretty awesome life by myself and with my friends. For the time being at least, a relationship is a bonus. I want a relationship, but I don't need a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 07:25 PM
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I actually haven't asked about her n-count. She actually married right after high school but got divorced within a couple years of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 07:22 PM
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I grant that it's impossible to know if she actually enjoys the sex. But I'm very experienced sexually and her behavior is consistent with what I see from practically every girl I've slept with, regardless of age difference. Oh, and I've also seen escorts, strippers and sugar babies before, so I think I have a reasonably well-rounded view of the different ways sexuality is used and expressed. She's consistently nice and affectionate to me and, so far at least, has asked for no more than my compa…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 07:20 PM
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Good points. I honestly don't expect any of my relationships to last forever. I think of it as a bonus if it does. I have multiple multi-year LTRs in my background and a marriage to boot. I know how things usually end.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 07:15 PM
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One other thing: I've done sugar daddy relationships before, mostly in South America but a few in the US too. This doesn't feel like any of those.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 07:02 PM
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I doubt she likes women. She's said multiple times she's not attracted to them sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 06:56 PM
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After our first date (not that night, but in follow up texts a couple days later) she flat out told me she wanted to fuck me and asked me to come over to her place that night. We've had sex several times since then and she seems really into it. She has orgasms, or at least pretends to very convincingly. The irony is that I don't have orgasms because I'm on anti-depressants
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 06:55 PM
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Oh yeah I fully expect some nasty stuff from RP. As for trust - the only evidence I have is that she has not been flaky with me. She does what she says she will do, does not cancel dates and seems enthusiastic about seeing me whether I suggest her place or mine (even though I live 45 minutes away). On more than one occasion she's driven up to my place just to hang out for a couple hours before getting home at a reasonable hour in order to get up at 4:45 for her early shift.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 06:48 PM
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Fair enough. But why isn't she asking for money? And why is she inviting me to meet her friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 06:45 PM
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I can choose to remain angry, or I can choose to get on with my life. That is free will. What lead to you developing that choice in the first place? There's always cause before the effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 12:22 AM
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Free will is an illusion. Humans have a more complex computer than animals, but at bottom it's still just stimulus and response.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/15 03:51 PM
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If you go to any spiritually oriented self-help event you'll find it's overwhelmingly women. Eckhart Tolle, Byron Katie, that sort of thing. A friend of mine met his gorgeous wife at a Tony Robbins seminar.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/15 03:41 PM
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That's fine too. I was just disputing taiboworks' claim that LMR is "setting yourself up for investing in someone that doesn't like you enough"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 07:36 PM
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LMR is not something you push through. It's a sign that you should back off and create more attraction first.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 05:33 PM
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I live in Colorado and buy weed recreationally every now and then. You're right. It's normalized and not a big deal. It's still not socially acceptable to fire up a joint at happy hour, but that's mainly because it's still illegal to consume in public. A couple years ago I went to a brothel in Berlin and loved it. It was very clean and chill. They limit people to just three drinks, so it's not a bunch of drunks. I went alone but noticed a lot of guys there in groups. It would be a fun guys night…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 03:50 PM
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Dad graduated college with a BS in biology. The plan was to go to med school but he couldn't afford it. He did ROTC Air Force in college and after his four years of service was up he became a commercial airline pilot. Mom was a nurse for 10 years or so, but by the time I (the youngest) came along she had stopped working. She became very active in local politics and the local art scene in lieu of work. Aside: I think being a pilot is the best job for a father. You're home for a few days, then fly…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 09:47 PM
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Sorry, but I just don't think he's ugly. If I don't, then I bet there are others who feel the same way. I've definitely seen uglier guys than him with wives. With regularity, not just one time five years ago. There's a shopping center near my home that I frequent and it's a parade of ugly married guys and their slightly less ugly wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 02:01 AM
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I read parts of it. Eye opening. But what really stood out was the foreword where she talks about how much backlash she got from feminists when it was published, and the unspoken competitiveness among women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 06:59 PM
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There are also a lot of young women with daddy issues. Not a huge percentage but enough that, if he's in good shape and lives in a city, and older guy can score fairly often. LTR is tougher to pull off but it happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 05:48 PM
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Such nonsense. He's not a bad looking guy. But he's internalized that he is and everything is a self-fulfilling prophecy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 05:15 PM
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She shouldn't have spoken up in anyway. It was the other way around. I spoke up when I noticed certain behavioral patterns were causing stress between us.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 04:27 PM
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Does the captain of the ship do every single job? Or is he just aware of the jobs that need to be done and delegate according to strengths? A guy who feels like he has to make all the decisions all the time probably isn't very fun to be around. I had to "train" my ex about stuff like this. She was extremely picky about certain things, and I learned from hard experience that there are certain things she wants done a certain way and I simply don't think the way she does about those things. Once sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 04:09 PM
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To me wishy washy just means not taking a stand on something I believe in, or feeling ashamed of what I want, and thus being tentative or passive/aggressive about expressing it. I don't have time to go into it now. Also isn't she supposed to let him make decisions like if they should travel or stay home? In a couple, the respective parties bring different strengths to the table. So one might be good at making plans, while the other is really spontaneous. Doesn't matter who does what, just so lon…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 03:24 PM
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No, she's not supposed to mold him. But if she wants a guy like that, and he's not like that, then dump him. It's not about goal alignment per se, just shared expectations. If you want to marry a guy who likes to travel, then don't date a homebody. Source: I've been dumped a few times and changed my behavior as a result. It wasn't always my fault, but there were things I could have done to improve the quality of the relationship (not being wishy washy being one of them). Some guys change, some g…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 10:03 PM
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In addition, men are unwilling to fill this role. They don't want it. They want to play video games and watch football. This describes a lot of men, partly because they didn't have good role models growing up. But this is the "work" part of the common truism "relationships take work." Most of these guys wise up after a string of girlfriends dumps them. The rest just resign themselves to never getting married and/or getting married lots of times only as a honeymoon to getting divorced.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 08:32 PM
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Your scenario is absurd because a hot guy would be getting positive feedback to change his posture to make himself look more presentable to women. By whom? Women? Other men?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/15 03:01 PM
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Donald Trump.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/15 04:38 PM
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I also put some blame on Arab Gulf states for not accepting refugees even though it's much more their problem and they're rich as fuck. I can't believe this isn't more of an issue. The West should be naming and shaming the Gulf states.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/15 04:02 PM
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Just to make sure I understand - you mean when they are in the military they can vote, but not after?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/15 04:00 PM
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I'm white but today I saw a jacked Asian dude and I immediately wondered if he's RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/15 09:51 PM
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Can confirm. I've used SA.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/15 02:40 AM
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What is the male imperative as told by TRP? Men have an inborn desire to have sex with as many women as possible. By doing so they increase the likelihood of spreading their genes. This doesn't mean that all men are cheating sex fiends. But in an imaginary world where hot women would offer sex with no downside consequences (be it needing to commit to get sex or staying loyal to your SO), the vast majority of men would have a lot more sex. See: gay men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 04:34 PM
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Not exactly. It's not like I just dump all my shit on them. But for example I usually tell women on the first date that I'm an alcoholic. Sometimes I mention how tough it is being an older guy in tech. Since most women are caretakers (whether inborn or socially expected), they often perk up and start thinking of how they can be helpful to you. The thing with vulnerability is that it invites vulnerability in return. And when someone is vulnerable with you, they feel closer to you. That's why peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 04:24 PM
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Yes. In the last week I've banged two of them who are both young enough to be my daughter.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 03:17 PM
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she will be repulsed by normal vulnerability Such nonsense. Vulnerability is a key part of my success. There's a difference between being vulnerable and being weak.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 04:56 AM
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In my experience at least, women have a much better memory for stuff like that. Especially during an argument. Her: "You said X, Y and Z" Me: "I said what?"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 04:41 AM
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How old are you? I live in a college town of a major party school. I'm far too old to hang out with students, but my 24 yo roommate (who's not even a student) goes to house parties and hooks up with chicks fairly often. Recently he's had a freshman coming over about once a week.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 09:34 PM
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So in other words keep doing what they've been doing? You haven't offered any specific attributes or behaviors they could adopt.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 09:29 PM
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I see a lot of women provoke men in such a way that, if they were a man, they'd get pummeled. Yeah, a gal can throw a drink in a man's face, but a guy sure can't. That said, I haven't seen that kind of behavior very often. I don't think most women abuse their privilege that often excepting maybe chatting with a police officer to get out of a ticket.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 08:09 PM
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Personally, I hate that literally any able-bodied man could overpower me if he chose to. I had a hyper-feminist gf in my twenties who pointed this out to me. I can see where she's coming from, but she couldn't seem to relate to my perspective that most of the time I don't think about shit like this at all. She seemed positive that I go through the world comparing myself to every man and whether I could kick his ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 04:00 PM
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It re-wires based on inputs.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 03:57 PM
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I don't know about "right," especially for something you can't do much about. I'm self-conscious about not being totally ripped all the time, but I don't let it dominate my thoughts.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 03:56 PM
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I've never heard of men worrying too much about their peckers. Wat? Guys: have you ever really encountered a vagina that you didn't like? Some of them smell.... As for the rest - I like them all but some are more visually appealing than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 03:49 PM
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no its not the human brain is incredibly plastic What does the plasticity allow? Response to differences in inputs?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 03:47 PM
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Being cautious about someone's tendencies is different from deciding they're evil. I personally think fake animated child porn should be made available to pedophiles if, as with rape, it lowers the likelihood of committing pedophilia in the real world. (I can't find a lot of evidence pro or con at the moment.)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 05:53 PM
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I don't judge pedophiles. You can't control your brain chemistry any more than you can control your height or (if you're religious) the soul you were born with. I don't think they should be allowed to roam freely, obviously. But anyone whose brain is so out of whack that it can only get pleasure from hurting others gets my pity more than anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 05:49 PM
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Judging people feels good. It feels righteous to put other people in boxes, hence the popularity of fundamentalist religions of all stripes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 05:45 PM
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Dread is conscious manipulation. Withholding sex may or may not be conscious. If it's not conscious, then "neglect" is a better word than "abuse."
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 11:19 PM
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Manipulation basically means concealing your true intentions. To the degree that a woman is lying about her sex drive, then yes it's manipulative/abusive. But if she's not, then no it's not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 11:18 PM
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Women generally dislike when their predictable, safe beta guy starts to exhibit alpha characteristics I think it's more like when someone acts one way for your entire relationship, then starts acting differently. Would you like it if your girlfriend changed without explanation? You wouldn't at least wonder why?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 11:17 PM
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First time I heard about Dread was in 2008 in this Heartiste post. He basically offers a binary option - meet your soulmate or use dread. That seems autistic to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 11:16 PM
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Meh, I get tired at the end of the day too. Lately I've been seeing a cute gal but we're both really busy, so I turn down sex as much as she does.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 06:51 PM
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TRP worldview has "women lie" as one of it's first principles. Not surprising they doubt any study the relies on self-reported data.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 03:18 PM
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I need to start doing that. Women tell me I have a sexy voice.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/15 01:24 AM
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Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/15 01:16 AM
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I've never experienced anything like this and I've been in lots of relationships. And I've had the problems that might drive a woman away -- alcohol, depression, income problems. Not that no woman has never broken up with me, but I never saw night & day behavior like you're describing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/15 01:13 AM
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I'm surprised you can even get them on the phone. Most everybody seems to prefer text these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/15 01:06 AM
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There are conservatives, then there are Republicans. I have respect for conservative views and agree with many of them, but I can't stomach most of the Republican party.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 06:58 PM
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I don't doubt that a large absolute number of women have done that, but for it to be a "large segment" it would have to be in the millions and I reeeeaaaaally doubt that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 09:58 PM
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Quite a few strippers are also prostitutes. It's a common complaint among strippers if one of them gives handjobs and blowjobs in the VIP. The ones who don't do that are at a disadvantage in terms of earning potential. Go to City of Industry and you'll find a ton of prostitutes working the pole. If you go to Eastern Europe practically all of the women are. Same for Colombia.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 09:55 PM
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Wat? No one has meetings in strip clubs. In certain business sectors you may have a guys-only group that goes while at a convention or something, but they won't tell the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 09:52 PM
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I don't think there's any near-term threat to women, but if you think in terms of hundreds of years, it's entirely possible that a significant chunk of the male population will at least give them a try. Once upon a time porn was something only guys in trenchcoats would watch at movie theaters.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 04:00 PM
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CTO, male
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 04:00 AM
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Sorry, bro, but I prefer /u/Ichtragebrille - different strokes for different folks.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 02:41 AM
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A nerf gun fight? Scaring each other? Chicks love stuff like that. One of my favorite dates is to take a girl to the trampoline park. They go gaga.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 02:40 AM
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Complaining is unattractive. Whining is unattractive. A divorced woman I dated for a while said that's the way it was with her husband. She would try to build him up or compliment and he would brush it aside or even get mad. She stuck with him for 16 years before finally splitting. He asked for the divorce, then changed his mind. She said nope, this train has left the station.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 02:54 AM
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There's so much jargon in it that I don't feel like parsing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 12:39 AM
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tl;dr
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 12:28 AM
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My anecdote - one time I confessed something similar to a girl I was seeing and she jumped my bones right after. In retrospect I realized she was thrilled that I was willing to be vulnerable to her. (This was over 20 years ago FWIW.) In general I've found that vulnerability can be attractive as long as you're not relentlessly negative.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 11:12 PM
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I do. Post a pic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 06:50 PM
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That guy has such a poor self-image. He's not genetically ugly. He just needs to hit the gym a little and make a few changes to how he presents himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 06:49 PM
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Or, you know, could ask yourself why your marriage is on the rocks? Unless you're either cheating or going through a crisis of some sort (i.e. death in the family, addiction), the answer is pretty simple: she's not attracted to you any more.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 03:14 PM
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Have you ever been married? It doesn't sound like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 03:12 PM
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Never date anyone seriously in the first year after their divorce. I'm divorced and dated a lot in the first year, but I had no idea who I was or what I wanted. Didn't break any hearts but do feel bad about how things went with a couple of the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 02:22 AM
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So if your wife lost weight, started wearing sexy clothes and the like after, say, putting on a bunch of weight in childbirth and spending the first year in dirty clothes taking care of the kid, you'd call that dread? I always thought dread game was originated by Heartiste. Am I wrong? In the post he doesn't mention anything about making yourself more attractive. It's all dark triad manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 10:29 PM
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Define needy. Does he get mad if you don't text back within a few minutes?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 10:24 PM
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Do you pay every time? I do on the first few dates but after that we usually split it or take turns. Right now I'm seeing someone that I generally do pay for but that's because she's a starving student who's also working lots of hours for low pay at a nursing home.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 09:18 PM
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You must have a knack for dating shitty women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 08:29 PM
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March 14
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 08:27 PM
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I used to have a girlfriend who was great about making little gifts for me. On our six month "anniversary" she took me out to dinner and gave me a card she had made. It was a total surprise. Can't say I expect anything like that from a woman, but it was nice and I still remember it 20 years later.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 08:25 PM
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Great, you've established that pink for girls is a cultural context. So when you're buying a baby shower gift do you go with the flow or defy the culture? Likewise, is there a set of gender roles in courtship that you either conform to or defy?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 08:23 PM
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I pretty much always pay on the first date or two. Not because I think it's right or wrong, but because I know that some women judge a guy based on that. So I just remove it as a factor. But I can afford to so I don't even really notice the cost.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 08:21 PM
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Off the top of my head, I've gotten cologne, neckties and home-cooked four-course meals.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 08:19 PM
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You've never received a gift on Valentine's Day? I've gotten lots over the years.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 06:31 PM
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Is it really zero sum? If all guys upped their game, wouldn't the average n-count go up for everyone? Edit: by which I mean, a girl who may have slept with only 6 guys before marriage might instead sleep with 8 or 9 if she encounters more attractive men in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 03:52 PM
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I dunno. I saw a really, really fat guy today working at the convenience store. At one point he squatted down for something and I saw an enormous plumber crack peaking out fighting to get out like an Alien in your stomach. Physically unattractive, low income... not sure how many women would go for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 03:50 PM
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I know a very successful dominatrix. She's Asian and smoking hot, so she's in very high demand. Her clients are professional athletes, Hollywood lawyers and the like. I interviewed her for a podcast. While she enjoys the work, she admits that she's not actually attracted to submissive guys. She tends to date either strong hyper-masculine guys or younger, partly broken guys that she treats as a project to help them find their full potential (that was more in the past though -- she regrets how muc…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 03:52 PM
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I would say about one in ten girls I've slept with likes to be assertive in bed, so maybe you're one of those. Even then, though, it's more of a take-turns being the boss thing, not her in control all the time. Edit: on the in-between level are women who know what they want sexually and not shy about asking for it. They're not dominant, but they have no qualms about, say, asking for it doggy style.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 03:49 PM
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This describes it well. I wasn't a complete loser in college, just frustrated a lot. I also was broke and didn't have good fashion sense until about 30. I've shown pictures of twenty-something me to girls I've dated in the last few years and a couple have remarked they wouldn't have been attracted to me then.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 03:38 PM
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There are a lot of hot women in the Big 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 06:35 AM
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Well, in my case I've met a lot of them in bars, some online. I've been rejected by a lot of them but that's the price you pay for being a man, especially an older one. One was a stripper that went home with me (so college age, but not actually in college). As for twenty-somethings - a few online, one in a coffee shop. A few through friends. Oh and a 19 year old through Craigslist Missed Connections. I was shocked when she responded. We didn't actually have sex, though. Just an example of how I'…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 06:27 AM
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I wasn't aware I was supposed to be teaching. I was just responding to her assertion that: And don't even get me started on how the red pill is delusional enough to believe that a 30 year old guy is going to somehow end up dating and screwing attractive college girls! Though I qualified it by pointing out I do live in a college town, so it's a lot easier to meet women that age.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 06:14 AM
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I'm in my late forties and live in a major college town. In the last couple years I've had sex with multiple hot, college age women and quite a few more in their early twenties. But it's not as easy for me to get women that young as it was in my thirties. In my thirties I didn't even really know anything about game or seduction but it didn't matter. I was in good shape, financially successful and confident in work life (though secretly I was a bit unconfident with women). I envy guys in their ea…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 05:54 AM
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What makes you assume all women have friends That's an interesting thought. I dated a girl for a while who had a very low count. She lost her virginity to her husband, stayed with him for 12 years and I think I might have been her first or second partner after the divorce. She was a sweet girl from Texas who embraced her femininity. But one thing that always struck me as odd about her is she didn't really have any close women friends. I asked her who she talked to when she need a shoulder to lea…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 12:57 AM
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That's why I asked. I don't think of slutty women as dirty so for me it's not a big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 12:51 AM
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Purple. I do an intense style of yoga that I doubt is really yoga. They just call it that for marketing purposes. Used to play indoor soccer once a week and loved it, but now I'm too slow and don't like the injury risk. Edit: I also did Crossfit for a couple years but came to dread going to class. The yoga class is the perfect level of challenge for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 12:10 AM
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I wouldn't say they're jealous of women who do so. I dunno, a lot of anger-phase RPers seem to be pretty jealous. Hence posts about how much easier it is for a woman to get laid than a man. It's like my dog complaining about how much easier it is for me to get the dog food out of the bag and pour it in the bowl. I don't want to eat dog food.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 11:54 PM
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Someone who's slutting around because she wants to rope in a man, any man, whoever will take her -- that's way worse than a "real slut." I feel kind of sorry for these women. I know of at least one reasonably attractive woman (not hot, but not overweight or ugly) who did this and was very unhappy as a result. She felt like all she had to offer was sex and it was the only way to get a guy to like her.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 11:50 PM
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Interesting. Do you ever get the sense that she wants it more than once a month?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 11:44 PM
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I should have been clearer. I mean, you see a guy you have romantic feelings for, and he rejects you. Whether you're looking for sex or a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 11:42 PM
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I should have been clearer. I mean, you see a guy you have romantic feelings for, and he rejects you. Whether you're looking for sex or a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 11:41 PM
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Not all women are feminist. Not even most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 07:14 PM
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I never encounter this. I've recently been seeing a 5'0" 100 pound girl and if anything she loves that I'm much stronger than her. Another old girlfriend (also small) used to love squeezing my muscles and I never saw her start shit with anyone. Even though she had to be a ballbuster as part of her job.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 10:40 PM
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Yeah, but until I read the Game I had no idea what the mistakes even were. I just new I was going home alone at the end of the night. It was only when I learned about specific aspects of game that I could correct the mistakes. Put another way: a basketball player may know he can't shoot, but he won't learn how to do a jump shot until he watches someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 10:37 PM
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A couple years ago I visited a brothel in Berlin (this one). The women were predominantly from Germany, several from Eastern Europe and at least one from Brazil. All of them were gorgeous. It was a great experience. A nice place, lots of emphasis on hygiene and not seedy at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 10:34 PM
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I always take online postings with a grain of salt. When I find a good idea I'll try it out. If it works, great. Otherwise I discard it. (Though sometimes I give it a few tries just to be sure.) How is red pill ever going to command respect Doesn't really matter to me. But any movement that takes on cult-ish tendencies usually has me heading for the exits. I think there is some truth to RP, but there's a lot of judging, misplaced anger and dick-measuring that turns me off.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 10:15 PM
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Are you obese? Disfigured?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 10:11 PM
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Pffft what nonsense. I got into great shape in my early thirties. I did attract more women but I still made a lot of rookie mistakes. It wasn't until I learned some of the finer points of attraction and social dynamics that I really started "getting lucky," except it wasn't luck. There's still an element of chance in pickup -- lots of it -- but I've increased my odds of success a lot thanks to game.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 10:07 PM
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Just curious, why do you think you're doomed never to have sex or love?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 09:40 PM
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She was actually Miss January 1955. Nudity in magazines was banned until the fifties. The only way to get nudes was mail order.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 09:37 PM
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I've been in three long distance relationships and they never worked out. Don't do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 04:36 PM
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I can see how AWALT would really grate on an INTJ woman. INTJ women are really rare. I did date one briefly (at least I'm pretty sure she was) and I felt like I was dating myself. It was eerie. I dated an ENTJ for a while and really liked that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 03:31 PM
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milfaholic http://www.datingbusters.com/milfaholic-com-is-a-scam-and-we-explain-why/ It's about as real a phenomenon as all those cheating women on Ashley Madison.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 08:23 PM
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Do you see now why some people might get confused? You're listing all these "self evident" traits that were not self-evident to me. Good on you for knowing what women want. It took me much longer to learn.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 07:54 PM
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People seriously need to be told that being likeable is an important skill to getting laid It's not just about being likeable. If so all the nice guys would be drowning in sex. Edit: let's just end the discussion here. Guys like me have learned a lot about charisma from PUA types and it's made my life better. You can say "what, you didn't already know that?" all you want, and the answer will be "no I did not." Ergo I'm glad I learned about PUA.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 07:50 PM
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Where in Dale Carnegie's book does he talk about getting laid?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 07:08 PM
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I guess I don't see how that's game as opposed to just improving on a personal deficit. For most men, the most obvious and immediate benefit of charisma is success with women. So yeah, you can just say it's self-improvement, but it was the PUAs who figured out how useful charisma can be and added it to their repertoire.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 06:21 PM
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The T part indicates that you think more rationally than a lot of people. A quick look at this gender breakdown chart suggests women tend be more F, men more T. IME I can definitely tell whether a given women is F or T. (And as an aside, Myers Briggs is often a great topic when chatting with women.)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 05:48 PM
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+100 for therapy. It's done wonders for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 05:34 PM
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Just curious, do you know your Meyers Briggs type? NT women tend to be different.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 05:26 PM
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Very true.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 05:06 PM
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I'll take the more interesting one. Hitting it one time is a rush the first few times you do it, but nowadays I prefer someone who can keep me entertained, even if it's just a couple of hours watching Netflix intermixed with a bang or two. Edit: also, "interesting-ness" is often a product of where you are in your life. People who've travelled a lot or otherwise have a decent amount of life experience don't have to be super smart to be interesting. So a 19 yo college student is going to be pretty…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 05:03 PM
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Tindr may make it easier, but not for me. Girls get matched with tons of guys, so you have really stand out if you want her to return your messages. I'm frequently told I'm handsome, btw, but I still strike out most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 04:25 PM
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And where does he get the courage to do the asking? He may look like a model, but if he's too nervous to say hello then he's going to struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 03:54 PM
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genuinely charismatic person A lot of people who come across that way discovered at a young age that behaving a certain way brings positive results, much like a young class clown discovers they can use humor for attention, to diffuse a tense situation etc. For those of us who didn't discover that at an early age, observing others and mimicking some of their behaviors is the best way to discover your own personal way of being charismatic. Not just for women, but in many areas of life. Here's a go…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 03:48 PM
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It becomes even more essential when you get older. I'm in my mid forties. That's the decade when men (and I presume women) start losing 1-2% muscle mass per year. Unless you do strength training. I know a guy in my hometown who is 68 and ripped. His face is a bit weathered but otherwise you would never call him an old man.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 03:25 PM
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I don't know about 50%, but in my experience most woman know within the first two minutes whether she might fuck a guy. She probably still won't fuck him, but he's made it to the elimination round based on his looks and initial demeanor.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 04:59 PM
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I don't think that's the question OP posed. The question is whether it makes the average guy or gal think they deserve someone hotter. Imagine a time before Playboy. Seriously, imagine it for a second. There were no "10 hottest girls of 2015" lists, no "sexiest man alive" People covers. Most men back then never saw a vagina up close until their wedding night (though probably hard to see in the dark). Tits were something you copped a feel of at the movie theater (again in the dark).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 04:53 PM
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I think they're less common than TRP makes it out to be. I rarely encounter them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 04:38 PM
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I do CorePower's Cardio Sculpt a few times per week and it kicks my ass. Lots of hot girls makes for great motivation.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 04:37 PM
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"Men talk to women so they'll have sex with them. Women have sex with men so they'll talk to them." Sorry, don't mean to be overly cynical. I definitely appreciate a woman with a sharp wit. But it's so rare that I don't expect it or penalize a woman who doesn't have it. Most people have pretty average personalities, myself included.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 12:50 AM
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You think the average director wants a guy with a bigger dick than his own? Those rumors came after he was famous. He studied serious acting in college. Shakespeare, Ibsen, the whole nine yards. Obviously he's genetically gifted enough for leading man material. But how about this guy? He's a friend of mine. Moved to Hollywood in his late forties, worked his ass of on student films, then got serious and now he works regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 12:38 AM
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Can confirm. Not all escorts like their clients, but some of them seem to really enjoy the work.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 12:34 AM
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Fuck, even yoga would be an improvement. That's what I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 12:33 AM
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You need to be at an Olympic level to have success with women?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 12:32 AM
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And he's doomed to stay there forever
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 12:31 AM
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Cause and effect? You think he waited until he got famous to develop his craft? Or maybe he worked hard and got a little lucky. He worked as a fireman for four years before pursuing acting full time. Actors always need luck. Jon Hamm was out of work for a couple years before Mad Men. Same for Jason Bateman. But they kept working to improve.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 12:30 AM
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100% true. He's got all kinds of head trash. Not talking about just women. That's the kind of shit that holds you back in your career and family relationships in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 12:19 AM
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I can't believe your relentless pessimism. I've seen less genetically gifted guys than this dude go through amazing transformation. That's not bullshit. I spent two years in a men's group and a lot of our members came to the group looking just like that guy and worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 12:17 AM
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It doesn't really stand out to me. If he were jacked most girls would be too distracted by his biceps. Also, consider the context of the video. I look awful under fluorescent light. Like really old and used up. But I don't usually meet girls under fluorescent lights. There's a reason bars and strip clubs tend to be dark. And... do you think Peter Dinklage gets laid? How about this guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 12:15 AM
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Doing those things will also help him get that six figure salary. He can still mgtow if he wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 12:10 AM
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His hair is like that because he is RECEDING, combine with a massive forehead and egg shaped head no haircut will save that. Like this guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 12:10 AM
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surely this implies the most desperate men will be most likely to be dicks to them Cat callers. I don't know why they do it. Maybe because a small percentage of the time it works?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 12:06 AM
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This happened to me literally last night. This girl I've gone out with once and want to see again started giving me push-pull and mixed signals, saying she doesn't do casual sex and just wants to be friends and no sex. I told her I'm not interested in being in the friend zone and don't date people who aren't excited to see me. I politely told her it was over and to have a nice life. Three hours later she texted me that she wanted me to come over and fuck her. I did. I like her and will see her a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 12:02 AM
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Given the popularity of sentiments like this, I'd say a lot of women already do it. Can you imagine a guy posting that to Facebook?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 11:57 PM
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When you speak in hyperbole, don't be surprised when people don't take you seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 10:59 PM
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Goodness me, why do these stupid women keep marrying and having kids if they think all men are rapists?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 09:43 PM
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How do you feel about poor people for whom the pursuit of money literally dictates a lot of their life? If they spend a shitload of time railing against the system and how society has lied to them? Yeah, I would tell them to think less about how to get money from other people who they think have screwed them and think more about how to create value.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 09:41 PM
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In India? Land of honor killings?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 09:23 PM
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And yet somehow in India they keep pairing up and cranking out babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 09:23 PM
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I believe it is emotionally driven, but that doesn't mean much because I think that's true of most human behavior. I get the idea behind letting people in "the anger phase" vent, but it's tiresome to read. It reminds me of alcoholics who find AA and feel the need to tell everyone they know that it's the only way to salvation.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 06:20 PM
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It's a bonus for a LTR. Not so much for short term.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 03:11 PM
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The multi-generation leadership of North Korea? Honestly I don't know if there's an asshole gene, but conscientiousness is one of the Big Five in personality theory and there's definitely a genetic basis for aspects of personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 02:36 PM
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It's a relative thing. His attention to fashion makes him look better than most guys. Plus, some chicks go for the skinny rocker type.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 03:35 AM
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I guess he's kind of Chad. Thin, good fashion sense, goes to a lot of rap concerts.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 03:27 AM
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I don't think that ipso facto means they are satisfying a subliminal desire to dominate women. And my gamer roommate seems to do okay with women. He even says gamer chicks are easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 03:12 AM
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Secondly, there is a theory that the chasing of success in video games is nothing more than a projection of a male power fantasy, sublimating their sexual frustrations and latent desires to dominate women That's trippy. I don't really believe it but it's an interesting theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 03:03 AM
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If he's truly average, he's probably not in good shape. More likely overweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 02:36 AM
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That makes sense to me, and that's what I've observed.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 02:33 AM
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I don't doubt they did. But I bet they would also have had successful love lives if they had never pursued their ambitions. That is less true for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 11:50 PM
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I'm not disputing any of that. I think if he'd had a lower IQ Jobs would have been a con artist. And he would have left a trail of offspring in his wake. Not all successful people are assholes. Warren Buffet comes to mind. But it's a useful trait in many careers.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 10:03 PM
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Of he was just some random asshole no one would have heard of him. Of course not. That was my point. A successful guy can get away with a lot of bullshit. If women wouldn't fuck assholes, that line of the gene pool would die out. Edit: and this - And I see no evidence of him being a sociopath, he was a massive hippie and liked to feel connected to the world and people. I did read his biography. I even met his biographer. Jobs was an asshole. He treated people like shit -- ask his girlfriend who …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 09:51 PM
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wat? Men take risks merely by approaching women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 07:45 PM
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She was probably a babe when she was in her twenties. Now that she's older she has to compensate with other skills. And more power to her. I like her writing. And consider this: At this point, certainly, falling in love and getting married may be less a matter of choice than a stroke of wild great luck. A decade ago, luck didn’t even cross my mind. I’d been in love before, and I’d be in love again. This wasn’t hubris so much as naïveté; I’d had serious, long-term boyfriends since my freshman yea…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 06:07 PM
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Definitely. And this will lead to a massive change in humanity. Once upon a time the most successful men were also the most successful breeders.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 06:01 PM
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Contrarian argument: women who go to greater lengths to be attractive are marginally more likely to attract (or keep) a man. They won't necessarily be happier, but men who are driven to climb the corporate ladder aren't either. Yet they're marginally more attractive to women than guys who prefer to go with the flow. Neuroticism is the foundation of western civilization.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 05:59 PM
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I don't think he's arguing about intelligence. He's just pointing out that testosterone correlates with a drive for power.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 05:36 PM
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Get shit done for your clients consistently and that won't happen. Eh. maybe. Sometimes women really do have to be above average just to be perceived as average. I remember a highly capable woman friend of mine used to work at an agency that serviced Japanese clients. Whenever she met with the client, she had to bring a man long to command respect. She later went on to be CEO of a high growth company, so at least her peers recognized her abilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 05:33 PM
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Good points. I don't know if average attractiveness is going up, but it seems likely that at the extremes it is. The most successful men reproduce with the most beautiful women. Also, obesity is likely more environmental than genetic. Take a fat person in the US and put him or her in a more calorie restrictive culture and they'll lose weight. Go to South America and you'll see more modest portion sizes and much fewer obese people.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 05:26 PM
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Ha, TIL. According to his Wikipedia page he doesn't like the attention that comes from being married to her. Not that that means anything. I imagine a lot of wives of male politicians feel the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 05:05 PM
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Not all risk-taking behavior is attractive, I'll grant that. But men are more likely to take risks in general. Many of them for inconsequential payoffs. But a guy who's willing to take more risks is generally more likely to have a high-payoff return. Driving like a maniac has little payoff unless you're a NASCAR racer, in which case there's very high payoff.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 04:59 PM
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Yes , but there are negatives about it too That's the definition of risk. If there's no downside to failure then it's not actually risky. And not attractive. Edit: and re this: Just because men are more likely to take risks , it doesn't mean they're better leaders Doesn't matter. Risk takers are more likely to get rewarded with leadership, and women are attracted to that. The reverse does not apply.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 04:54 PM
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This is definitely the right way to think about insecurities. Being able to laugh at yourself is paradoxically a sign of confidence. That's why I think some RPers go off the rails when it comes to "never show weakness." Vulnerability is attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 04:49 PM
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If you watch that episode you'll see that the women actually read the full instructions on the provided sheet while the men quickly chose to make a fool of themselves by being "goal oriented" Ha, I remember doing that quiz in 7th grade. Most of us read all the way through first, but I remember one girl who didn't. Everyone noticed that she was writing furiously while we all tried not to laugh.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 03:47 PM
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The maths! They hurt my brain!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 03:42 PM
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Which most women aren't interested in. It's like saying you're racist because you don't eat chitlins.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/15 03:29 PM
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But they'll definitely know when she brings him home for Thanksgiving. Why bother responding to a guy if you know it has no future?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/15 02:52 PM
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they see an industry not as conducive to raising a family as others This is a stretch. Women are going to law school and medical school in record numbers. Those fields are known for long hours and little payoff until you're pushing 30. Why are they choosing to do that but not STEM? If you have an aptitude for programming, you can start earning serious money before you are out of college. And a lot of jobs allow you to work from home. Much more family friendly than night shifts at a hospital. And…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/15 02:45 PM
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They're celebrities. Celebrity divorces make the news. There's no sense of "losing their shit." Similar stories made the rounds when Michael Jordan got divorced and had to give his wife a truckload of money. Hell, I'm old enough to remember when Johnny Carson was in a similar situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/15 04:40 PM
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Guys harass each other all the time. One of the best things about being a guy is that you can harass your fellow guy friends without mercy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 04:55 PM
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Women do actually enjoy good sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 10:11 PM
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Yeah, think of all the high school prom queens who move to Hollywood and suddenly find they're just another cute face in a sea of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 05:07 PM
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Same here. I'll make a reasonable effort but quickly next a girl if she gives too many mixed signals.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 01:02 PM
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Mothers used to teach their daughters that "men love the chase." Dunno if they still do that. This is the basis for that book The Rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/15 10:55 PM
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FWIW my roommate has gotten tons of pussy from gaming. He's a decent looking guy though, and has fashion sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/15 09:11 PM
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I was about to argue that women who don't work can contribute by lowering costs. Ask a widower who has to pay for child care. But then it occurred to me that on balance, in a purely financial sense, it's probably still cheaper to outsource all domestic functions than have a live-in wife who you have to provide for as well. What does a FT nanny cost these days?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/15 09:55 PM
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As Dan Savage says, "Settling down also means settling for."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/15 09:26 PM
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Blue Pill behaviour would be accepting that she's changed and she means it when she says she loves him and wants him to stay with her. There is no Blue Pill. It's a parody sub. There are multiple ways he could have reacted to this, some redder than others. But I don't think what you said is definitively blue pill, especially given that several women in the thread agreed with him. Or are they all RPW?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/15 09:25 PM
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Staggering number of women shaming him? Pretty much everything I saw seemed to support him. Including this: You did the right thing. I've been married for 22 years, and my heart still gives a happy little jump when my husband appears Could you link to some shaming comments?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/15 09:23 PM
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As a forty-something guy, I think I would choose A. I can (and have) gotten wild & crazy sex from one-night stands, escorts and everything in between. But what I can't get from them is something as seemingly mundane as planning a trip to Italy 6 months from now.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/15 09:09 PM
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Why do white women want white guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 10:32 PM
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I don't know about late 30s, but for me things definitely got easier when I hit 30. Partly because I had become a successful entrepreneur after years of struggle, but probably just as important was the fact that I could finally afford decent clothes, cool vacations etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/15 05:09 PM
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FWIW I signed up for AM a few years ago on a lark. I was not in a relationship, but thought it might be interesting to meet a cheating woman. I figured out pretty quickly that the vast, vast majority of female accounts were fake. I generally have a pretty good hit rate with online dating in general. If I send 10 emails, I'll get at least 2-3 responses. With AM I would get almost zero. I'll grant that response rate might be lower in the AM context because the women might be just seeking validatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 10:26 PM
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I've hired some great overweight people over the years. Sometimes the reason they're overweight is because they are workaholics. My sister put on a lot of weight over the course of two years of nonstop travel for IBM.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 02:51 PM
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Ron Jeremy gets laid by women who are not paid?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 03:18 AM
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One may as well point to how many men are in prison for murder and rape and say AMALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 03:17 AM
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Fat women become feminists because they want men to stop finding higher-value women Eh, I don't think it's all about attraction. Fat people in general are less likely to get hired, get promoted etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 07:31 PM
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Women, being obfuscatory in general, don't want you to understand, so they deny everything. I don't see this in an AWALT sense, but I do know a girl I dated for a bit who definitely got a sense of power from withholding information. We're still friends and very occasionally hook up (she lives in another state). I tease her about it and she's generally pretty open with me, but I wouldn't want to be in an LTR with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 06:41 PM
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I'm way beyond any sort of improvement now. This post is not about me anyway. Why do you say that? When I was 31 I was 50 lbs heavier than I am now, and had horrible taste in clothes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 04:10 PM
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If you are a man who wants to have a lot of casual sex, then liberal is the way to go because it encourages women to embrace sexual freedom.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 02:12 PM
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Sure, but I also think doing things like pursuing a business career or getting a masters in women's studies are good interests to cultivate.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 02:54 PM
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Music major here, can confirm. Edit: Although, I will admit that having gone to a top 20 school impresses people even 25 years later. It doesn't matter what my degree was in music or that I had a very mediocre GPA.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 01:27 PM
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Good point. The OP asked about sexual attraction, not attraction in general, so my bad. Nonetheless if a woman wants a LTR I believe it's in her interest to cultivate more than just sex appeal.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 06:03 PM
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arguably more feminine talent of acting James Gandolfini was feminine? Acting is hard. I do it, and am pretty good at it, but it's not easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 04:50 PM
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He actually divorced the second one too, then re-married her. And he liked the first one enough to have six(!) kids with her. And being an actress is not easy. It takes perseverance and a shitload of emotional intelligence. And if you'd like to choose another alpha, how about Steve Jobs' wife?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 04:49 PM
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As an example, an attractive woman who can cook with skill, and is a good singer, is more attractive to high value men, than an attractive woman with 4 college degrees and is a published author. I think that's individual preference. My ex was an outstanding cook, but not much of a reader. If I could only pick one I'd take a reader over a cook any day. Just to show an example in the wild, Elon Musk's first wife is a writer. Edit: For everyone saying "hurr, durr, his second wife is a not actress,"…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 03:40 PM
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USA! USA! In spite of being middle of the pack in many measures of human development, we're still #1 in self esteem! Yay us!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 10:12 PM
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Just because you can have a child doesn't mean it's a good thing, and just because you are naturally inclined to be masculine doesn't mean you have to. This is fundamentally the naturalistic fallacy. Is does not imply ought. If you don't accept that people have a right to pursue happiness, then there's really nothing to discuss. Turtles all the way down.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 05:05 PM
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Why don't people actually consider why he prefers jerking off to porn? Is it maybe because his wife is uninterested in doing the things he wants to do? I'd want to know his porn history before the relationship. And while some of it may be that he likes stuff she's not into, I suspect a more common explanation is just sexual variety. Even RP admits men prefer sexual variety. If a guy can virtually fuck 30 different women in an hour, it's hard for the wife to measure up. I'm not anti-porn, but I d…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 05:00 PM
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Right, but men prioritize sex and women prioritize relationships. And since you can't really evaluate someone's relationship suitability just by how they walk on the street, it's not surprising that women would think this way. Take sex and relationships out of it a second. Change it to clothing. How often do you see a guy that makes you think "that's a great outfit; I wish I had his style." I bet most guys don't think that way very often, but women do quite a bit. Would you conclude that men are…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/15 12:24 AM
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Don't know the others but MacKinnon and Dworkin are definitely fringe.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 08:00 PM
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Ah, now I get it. Two wrongs === right.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 06:53 PM
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By this measure every German in WW2 was a Nazi. Just because the system allows ruthless behavior doesn't mean all women behave ruthlessly. And having gone through a divorce myself I know that all women are not like that. Our settlement was amicable, fair and didn't require lawyers. I know of one guy who got screwed pretty hard in his divorce but most I guys I know who have gone through it had a similar experience to mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 05:43 PM
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Ruthlessly?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 03:30 AM
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Therapy is not just for hardcore mental illness.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 03:24 AM
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I've done lots of therapy over the years and my only regret is that I didn't start sooner. It's not just about approaching women, obviously, but shyness is often a sign of something deeper. No, I'm not saying shy people should try to become extroverts, go out clubbing every night try to become the life of the party. But maybe by interrogating their internal beliefs about themselves -- and realizing how many of those beliefs are just bullshit -- will make them less self-conscious and more confide…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 03:21 AM
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I felt the same way when I was in college but in retrospect I was judging frat guys on really superficial things. Once I got in the working world I was surprised to find that some of my favorite co-workers were frat guys. Being in a frat is a great way to develop social skills. I wish I had done it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 03:18 AM
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The post didn't say men should put on makeup. It said if they spent an hour a day trying to look more attractive it would increase their SMV. An acquaintance of mine is a stylist in LA. He runs this site. I once saw him do a presentation about style archetypes. There are tons of clothing options for men, even fat ones (think Tony Soprano in a badass suit). The key is knowing what archetype you are and picking clothes that work for it. Doesn't have to cost a fortune either. Neil Strauss (author o…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 03:11 AM
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Attracted enough for a relationship? Or just to fuck? Since women tend to want relationships, I bet that explains a lot of the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 02:59 AM
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Family, but not just old people. And all college educated.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 11:04 PM
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Well, since I only go to the south once a year for the holidays, and that kind of conversation happens pretty much every time I'm there, as far as I'm concerned that sentiment is still pretty strong. Edit: And since people are willing to go out in the street and protest I would guess they get that vibe from time to time too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 10:22 PM
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How much time has passed? The last time I heard a rant about black people was last Thanksgiving in a tony suburb of Charlotte.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 08:24 PM
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They're just the people who actually showed up at the protest. For every one of those I would bet there are tens of thousands more who support them in spirit. Growing up in the South, I heard that kind of sentiment all the time, but only in white-only settings.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 07:28 PM
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But the people who think it's okay for police to respond with deadly force to an unarmed or capitulating person - regardless of race - are a rarity Tell that to the Oath Keepers
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 07:03 PM
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Re: black on black, I was referring to this guy Good for you not getting pulled over for DWB. A black friend of mine in my hometown, about an hour south of Atlanta, has been pulled over three times for DWB. The kicker is that a) he is a lawyer and b) he studied race and the law with Obama himself waaaay back when Obama was a prof at University of Chicago. I (a white guy) has been pulled over while driving drunk in my Infiniti and gotten off with a warning. I wonder what would have happened if I …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 06:01 PM
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So you think #BLM is just a big waste of time? "Used to do." Pretty important phrase Yeah, and you know why they stopped? Pressure from community activists like Al Sharpton and company. All the while people like Giuliani were saying it's no big deal and redirecting the discussion to black-on-black crime. No one's saying black-on-black crime isn't a problem. But when the people who are supposed to "serve and protect" are instead hassling people for driving while black and other nonsense, why shou…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 05:11 PM
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The political climate all but guarantees - even demands - that every real or perceived incident will be reported to the media That's great if true. But what created the political climate? Things like "black lives matter." What are the odds that there are incidents happening and not getting reported? Probably the same odds that a death row inmate is innocent, something that, most of the time, can only be proven with DNA evidence. No DNA evidence, no exoneration. Yes, we have more cameras now, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 03:00 PM
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"I can't breathe!"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 02:57 PM
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TIL < 10 cases nationally over the course of a year caught on video qualifies as an "epidemic". FTFY. How many other incidents didn't get reported because evidence wasn't as overwhelming? The Chicago PD ignored complaints against Jon Burge until the evidence was incontrovertible. He got away with police brutality for years. Nowadays more events are caught on video, but certainly not all of the them, and I doubt even the majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 05:56 AM
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Would be funny if the analogy applied. I didn't call anyone a Nazi. Just pointing out that it's idiotic to get offended about "black lives matter" when there's been an epidemic in the past year of cops and that idiot in Charleston acting as if black lives don't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 05:32 AM
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"black lives matter" is shockingly racist in its exclusion of other races So is remembering the Holocaust racist against non-Jews?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 11:52 PM
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She's past her prime, but when she was young she was a knockout. That's why she was able to marry a king.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 11:33 PM
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Oh and if you like Jane Austen, check out The Marriage Plot, which, as part of the story, explores how narrative has changed from the time of Austen.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 08:16 PM
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A song is better when it has a tight beat, but tight beats are very rare in nature. Likewise, stories about love and loss are better when the circumstance portrayed are a perfect storm of character, plot and setting. Funny that you mention Rose because the Titantic actually happened, but the events portrayed did not. What if Ross' guy had not died in the Titanic? Maybe the story would end "happily ever after," except we know that "happily ever after" is just another plot device. They would've ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 08:15 PM
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But not for 70 years like the fictional character called Rose On the other hand, I have been a hero many times like Superman.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 07:43 PM
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Just like Medea predicts every jilted woman will kill her children.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 07:41 PM
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Queen Noor of Jordan. Beautiful, educated and very well spoken. Edit: another is Valerie Plame. I met her a couple years ago and, though she was in her forties, she looked terrific and a great conversationalist.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 06:24 PM
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How old are you now? I'm a 47 yo male and haven't had a serious relationship in a few years... and I don't really miss it. Sometimes I want a little affection or the feeling of waking up next to someone in bed, but that's more of an occasional desire, like ice cream, not a burning need that consumes me every day. I went through a mid-life crisis at 40 when I got divorced, and back then I was definitely fearful about being alone. But lots of therapy and especially lots of interesting experiences …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 06:21 PM
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A lot of the times, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 06:12 PM
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I've done it a few times and never gotten a cunty reply. They're usually shocked I have the balls to say something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 06:12 PM
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No, that was A Million Little Pieces. Though the Secret is a fraud.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 04:03 PM
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The overwhelming majority of online dating profiles I've seen of any kind -- Tinder, Ok Cupid, even Seeking Arrangement -- are descriptive. "Here is the kind of person I am." Granted, they're usually pretty boring and cliché, but I assume the same is true for men. Very occasionally I see something like "I'm 5'11" and so would prefer a guy taller than me" but that's about it. Do you see this 50% of the time, 25%, 80%?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 01:41 PM
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Just curious, what percentage of the women you engage with exhibit these traits? It's very rare for me to see this kind of thing, even on sugar daddy dating sites.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 01:32 PM
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I actually had a gf for a few years who was quite entertaining, very close to MPDG. She was creative and would do stuff like paint cool pictures on the bathroom wall, make cartoons about me, suggest we go dumpster diving etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 05:36 PM
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I'm confused. Are you talking about approaching a girl or going on a date with one?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 05:33 PM
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And this: I absolutely feel like whenever I'm with a hot girl That's your feelings talking, not objective reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 05:33 PM
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I've definitely encountered girls that literally give you nothing but shitty 1-word answers to work with and instead just sit there sipping on a drink waiting for you to produce the funny juice. Call her out on it. "It doesn't seem like you want to be here. When I go on a date with someone, I want that person to be excited to see me. Should we just cut this short?"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 05:31 PM
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Have to say I agree with this. I think were RP goes off the rails a little bit is "never show weakness." I think a little vulnerability is good -- I frankly talk about my struggles with depression and alcoholism, for example -- but if you constantly act helpless you're a goner.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 08:43 PM
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If all a guy ever does, day in and day out, not a bad day or a bad month, bad life, is whine at his gf about how unfair everything is and life is so shit etc etc I wouldn't be at all surprised if she stopped feeling attracted. Exactly. An old FWB of mine went through this in her marriage. Her husband constantly portrayed himself as a victim who had no control over his environment. She did everything she could to get him to stop viewing himself that way, but after 16 years she finally got fed up.…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 08:41 PM
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Yeah, I think it's a red herring. It allows (some, not all) RPers to think being Machiavellian is just part of the natural order.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 07:43 PM
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IMO the "sexual strategy is amoral" thing is an incorrect reading of evolution. "Sexual strategy" in the evo sense refers to species-wide behaviors, not individual strategy. In your day to day life it's impossible to live in an amoral context unless you are literally a hermit. Once you interact with other humans then morality enters the picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 06:36 PM
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It's very difficult to prove that because there's no recorded history from that time. The strongest argument I've seen about why humans are moral (or try to be) is because we think about the future. Not just the immediate future, but tomorrow, next week, next month etc. So if you, say, lie to someone about something, you're aware on some level that you will have to continue the lie in the future, or face consequences if you don't. That takes a lot of brainpower.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 06:02 PM
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That's actually one of the stronger arguments against many economics theories. Consider that libertarians advocate for ideas that generally support their lifestyle. (Note: I'm fairly libertarian. But then, what else would I be given that I fare well in survival-of-the-economic-fittest environments?)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 05:58 PM
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That's odd. Excess protein usually makes people constipated.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/15 01:06 AM
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According to the author bio on Amazon: The information in Women's Infidelity was gathered and researched over a period of ten years. I don't know that it could stand up to academic scrutiny, but it's clearly more than a memoir of her cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 08:09 PM
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Oh come on. Quantum physics is 100 years old. The sexual revolution is only 50 and sociology research is only just starting to catch up. And in physics if you look at something like string theory, you can find lots of screecher monkeys.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 08:06 PM
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Sure it does. Both women and men have more options than in the past. Women don't have to be dependent on a man to keep a roof over their heads, and men no longer have to "man up" and marry a girl just because she got pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 02:06 PM
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For having a ONS with someone else while we were dating. How would me being even more promiscuous have helped in that context?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 02:04 PM
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And that's ultimately why divorce is going up. Before the 60s most women didn't have many career options, so they often had to stay in the marriage whether they wanted to or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 06:45 AM
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Reproduction is the outcome, not the cause. We are biologically driven to have sex even if we don't want children.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 06:39 AM
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Eh, maybe. I had a girl dump me after she found out I'd recently had a one night stand. We weren't exclusive -- we'd explicitly talked about not being exclusive -- but it was headed in that direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 05:03 AM
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No problem with that. My issue is with the OP implying that because capitalism is blind then socially undesirable outcomes are ipso facto A-OK.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/15 05:17 PM
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The issue is that when you're 21 you're less likely to attract the woman you want because she's attracted to older/more successful guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/15 05:15 PM
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So where do you stand? With the OP that there is no need for feminism because capitalism is blind?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/15 05:10 PM
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This makes no sense. OP says capitalism is blind and obviates the need for activism like feminism. Then you admit that certain outcomes of pure capitalism are socially maladaptive and require a change in social policy. Which is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/15 04:29 PM
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My point is you shouldn't be surprised at MDIT! because many Terpers have a one-sided view of things and express it frequently in TRP. It's no different than politics. The left and right throw stones at each other for doing underhanded things. Rather than examine their own behavior, they just get outraged as a way to elevate their own moral status.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/15 02:20 PM
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Check your priors. Who said capitalism is blind? Was it blind when black people weren't allowed to eat at white-only diners in the south?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/15 01:49 PM
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My issue is with RP men simultaneously blathering on about "sexual strategy is amoral" but then getting butthurt when they encounter women who take that to heart as much as they do and use it to elevate their own moral status.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/15 01:48 PM
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If you obsess about something, it will grow to consume you. You can choose to spend your time obsessing about whether you're "really" number one or set about being number one. Assuming you accept other aspects of RP, that means: for women, looks aren't as important as dominance and status seeking validation from women is for betas, and you can only control what you can control - yourself and your reactions And I'd add that you can never know the mind of another person.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/15 10:07 PM
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You never heard of dating blogs?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/15 11:28 AM
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women expressing shock that men don't find her attractive because she's making herself attractive to other women. Who exactly are you talking about? A woman doesn't like a job because she's not attractive? Makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/15 11:28 AM
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What if he were 50% bigger than you and started acting stalkerish? What if the media were filled with stories of gay guys stalking straight men? What if you had friends who had been harassed by stalkers and had to get a restraining order to get him to leave them alone?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/15 01:38 AM
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He claims women don't do X because they don't get compliments while doing X. Cause and effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/15 01:35 AM
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That's not the issue at hand. The issue is RP's explanation of women's motivations in the workplace.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/15 01:33 AM
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My ex is from China. This does not describe her or her many Chinese friends I got to know. They of course want a man who can provide and are traditional in their views on gender, but they are all very romantic in their view of relationships. You should see Chinese wedding photos. They're very Disney.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/15 03:15 AM
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But why do they keep putting them on their dating profiles?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 03:13 PM
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FWIW Miami is very latino, and big booties & boobs are prized in that culture. If you go to Colombia you'll see tons of women with fake boobs and -- I kid you not -- fake asses.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 02:53 PM
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The guy in your example didn't entertain the idea of a divorce, though. Yeah but a lot of them do. My dad certainly did. I don't know if he ever cheated but I do know he came very close to divorcing my mom. They had a very traditional relationship (married in 1957, she stayed home to raise three kids while he worked etc). If you buy the idea that men are more sex-driven while women are more commitment-driven... and men can get sex on the side via escorts, what's a woman to do? She obviously can'…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 02:04 PM
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So she did a lot of self-improvement and lost attraction to her guy. Do you think a man who did the same thing would remain loyal to her? Given that the average client of escorts is a married guy in his forties, my guess is no.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 01:31 PM
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I took an intro sociology class and we used to call it "Introduction to the Obvious." A friend (girl) who was majoring in it said it's basically using scientific words to describe stuff you already know about. I do think there's a lot of interesting research to be done on it, as all the linked studies here indicate.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 01:25 PM
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I know a lot of women who are into astrology, but that's not the same as just reading a daily horoscope. (I still believe astrology is bunk.)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 09:37 PM
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A while back I watched this interview with a male porn star called Mr Pete. He's done a lot of videos over the years. He says that on his first shoot (which was a fluke because the male talent didn't show up), it took him close to an hour to get a boner even though he had slept with the exact same girl the night before.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 09:35 PM
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I'm at work and don't have time to list them all, but a few that come to mind: he thinks more in terms of masculine and feminine rather than men and women. He never showed any interest in things like partner count or other markers of "sluttiness." He would never call women teenagers. In fact, one of the workshop leaders was a woman and he clearly had great trust in her.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 07:18 PM
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I agree. But I did a workshop with him and based on that I seriously doubt he buys into a lot of RP talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 07:09 PM
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Wall of text that I don't have time to wade through, but I do agree with this part: Lack of positive masculine identity. I had fairly radfem girlfriend point this out to me in the early 90s. Back then a book called Iron John came out which many credit with starting the "men's movement." It was widely mocked, but she did agree that men need something to stand for that is uniquely masculine. I feel the same way, but I think David Deida is a better spokesman than TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 05:35 PM
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All I can say is keep trying. I've seen lots of therapists over the years. Some better than others. I also take medication for depression, and it's done wonders for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 03:04 PM
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Are you getting therapy?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 02:20 PM
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No big deal, life goes on. The key is to realize that the brain that is going through the breakdown is not qualified to make irrevocable decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 02:18 PM
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Dude, I've had a few nervous breakdowns, most recently in my early forties. Sometimes life gets tough. Everyone is vulnerable. Everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 02:10 PM
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Lots of reasons I don't feel like going on here. The divorce was very amicable but traumatic nonetheless. But five years later (and lots of therapy and introspection) I feel really lucky to have a second chance at being single. Edit: Also, alcoholics have an extremely powerful hamster.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 11:42 PM
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Ha, I do pot too. Deesn't help with ED but definitely puts me in the mood.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 11:40 PM
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You might have adrenal fatigue and/or clinical depression. I have both. Supplements help with the adrenal fatigue and I take Zoloft for the depression. Everyone is different though so talk to your doctor and ideally find a therapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 11:07 PM
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Long story that involves infertility, my alcoholism and her desire to move back to China to be closer to family and me wanting to stay in the US. We're still close.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 11:05 PM
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Down the rabbit hole... The article is about things you can do to land a man. You can get tautological about what someone "really" wants but at the end of the day if a woman does these things, I probably will like her more.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 11:04 PM
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How does "you can't generalize" mean "man up and marry the slut?"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 09:58 PM
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Pacifist like that guy Forest Gump's girl hooked up with?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 09:58 PM
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I don't see how "Man up and marry the slut" follows from "not every girl has the exact same tastes in men."
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 09:57 PM
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And a good way for a woman to communicate that she loves me is to do nice things for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 09:56 PM
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How about this. Early in my dating career, if my girl had a problem with something and was upset, I would immediately jump into problem solving mode. Over time I learned that that's not what they're always looking for. My ex wanted me to say things like "I hear you." I started doing that and our relationship got better. So, was I doing that for something in return? Absolutely: a better relationship. But it wasn't "fake." It just wasn't instinctual.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 08:35 PM
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You're a brave man all the same. Thanks. Remember, that's something women like.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 06:54 PM
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Figure out what things makes you feel good to be alive, and do them as often as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 06:53 PM
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put an 18 year old in his bed then show me his ED Late forties guy here. I've done that. Didn't work. I mean, I get a boner most of the time but it's not as good as it once was. Now I take Cialis and it's awesome. I think of it as a recreational drug.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 05:43 PM
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What is MH? If you're in control of your life, you probably don't need to make the post. And why appeal to sympathy? How about just asking for help? I wrote a Facebook post a while back about my alcoholism. It wasn't "woe is me I'm broken!" It was just a statement of facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 05:41 PM
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the climb to be Alpha How about just taking the climb the be the best possible version of you? Don't buy into other people's definitions. Also, don't buy into the word "success" because it's freighted with cultural norms. Think more along the lines of "flourishing." Figure out what things makes you feel good to be alive, and do them as often as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 05:16 PM
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About six months ago I made two lengthy posts about my struggles with depression and got tons of comments and likes from women. A couple reached out to me to offer advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 05:12 PM
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Not sure what you mean? When I thought about asking her to marry me, I confess I didn't think she was the sexiest woman I'd ever met, but when I added up the pros and cons, her ability to cook and having a generally pleasing disposition was a big pro.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 03:56 PM
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I think we're getting different meanings of "fall out." To me that means you won't get commitment. I think if a guy likes a girl pretty well, and she makes an effort by doing things like in the article, then he's more likely to commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 03:55 PM
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Right, and you said "Do these thing and commitment falls out of the man." Why would doing nice things for your man make commitment fall out?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 02:33 PM
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The 30+ women I know don't help you through rough patches. They expect you to do it on your own. If you don't you are seen as immature Not my experience at all. They don't solve your problems for you, of course, but they have generally been very supportive in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 02:29 PM
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I've dated lots of women older than you. I haven't wifed one up but overall most of them were great. They don't play head games as much, don't get overly emotional and love love love sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 02:28 PM
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The way to a man's heart is through his stomach. My ex was a fantastic cook and that's the thing I miss most about her.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 02:26 PM
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Do these thing and commitment falls out of the man. Where in the world did you get that idea? Doing little things for each other are displays of affection and increases commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 02:25 PM
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Seriously. She can't just be nice without it being viewed through the lens of power.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 02:23 PM
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I don't "need" a woman who likes sports, but it would be awesome if she did from time to time. I once went shopping with my ex and, while I won't say it was my ideal way to spend an afternoon, she was excited when I volunteered, and I had a good time too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 02:21 PM
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To me "legacy" refers to things like top-tier private schools favoring the children of big donors. It used to be very common in the Ivy League but I don't know if that's still true.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 10:43 PM
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I don't know what the legal standard is, but I imagine a lot jurors and judges think that if a guy can get a boner, he's probably not that drunk.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 03:01 PM
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The average guy conceals his interest. So the vibe that comes across is "just friends" in the best case and creepy in the worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 02:30 PM
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Just curious, what countries were you in? These were not poor desperate girls looking for a way out. They were usually rich by local standards, and often even by western standards. A friend of mine married a Thai girl. Not a "working girl" - she has a college degree and is a trained chef. He told me that, in Thailand at least, it's pretty hard for a gringo to LTR a truly upper middle class girl unless you speak excellent Thai and have lived there for a few years.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 04:55 PM
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What I think of when I hear the word "floozer"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 04:50 PM
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If you're a rich dude, for instance, you will have not just gold diggers around you, but also male sycophants and leeches Eh, maybe. I can see this if you're a rap star or professional athlete, but most self-made men I know (some of whom are extremely wealthy) are generally very smart and surround themselves with other smart people. Even the women in their lives are accomplished - either in business or as successful writers, artists etc. Edit: look at Sheryl Sandberg's departed husband for examp…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 03:42 PM
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I'm not really arguing with you. Most cops are very professional and react well under pressure; some aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 07:34 PM
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NACALT. Actually, all of my dealings with cops have been very professional, even when I was arrested once. But I think I probably get treated better than the average guy in the ghetto simply because I'm white, older, polite and drive a nice car. Most cops are great, but some are shitty. And even the decent ones probably get very cynical if they work a tough beat for too long.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 06:58 PM
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They do change, but TRP calls it beta bucks. Some women (not all, I'd bet not even half) chased a bad boy or two and got burned. So they develop better filters.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 08:19 PM
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You can not "agree" or "disagree" with truth. Spoken like the eugenicists of yore. Or ISIS.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/15 03:16 PM
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I didn't own one until after college, didn't really use computers much until I was, oh 23? Now I'm a CTO.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 05:38 PM
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A good book on this topic is Incognito, by David Eagleman.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 05:22 AM
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What is starfish sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 06:38 PM
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devalue themselves to being nothing more than a body with an interchangeable identity And yet doesn't TRP say women have inherent value, while men are expendable?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 06:02 PM
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Ha, that reminded me of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CaMUfxVJVQ
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 09:50 PM
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Especially if you factor in that men in developing countries do more backbreaking work. I'd be more interested in the results if they limited the survey to office workers in the West.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 09:47 PM
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There's 18 year olds I see that I want to fuck and then there's the ones I actually talk to. They're generally pretty boring. I did once bang a 19 yo stripper, and while the sex was hot, I didn't want to hang out with her afterward.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 02:21 PM
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Now you're getting tautological. The fact is that no one here is trying to assert that a historical figure existed AND that you should change your behavior because of it. If TRP said "follow Jesus as your savior," would you you uncritically accept it? TRP gives advice on how to treat people and uses pseudo-science to justify it. If they couched it more in terms of "a lot of guys have noticed XYZ, so maybe you should take a closer look," I wouldn't have a problem with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 07:30 PM
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Do the assertions pro or con of Henry the 8th's existence affect how you treat people?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 06:17 PM
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A rapper who declines to refer to all women as bitches and ho's has his career ruined?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 04:48 PM
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Not the same as getting banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 03:05 PM
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Most girls I've hooked up with didn't lose their virginity until college. One not until after college.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 03:04 PM
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Depends on the locale. I went to one in Brooklyn and there were several very attractive women there. Two of them came up to me as soon as I entered the room and I was like "all riiiiight!" But my gf wasn't attracted to any of the men and got kinda squirrelly about the whole thing, so no soup for me. A couple years later I went to one in flyover country and... yeah, most of the girls were overweight. There was one I was attracted to (normal weight), but she didn't seem interested in me. I ended u…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 03:03 PM
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Right, but if you were looking to advise someone to pursue a more "rational" path, you'd probably start with the drinking. The promiscuity is likely a side effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 01:52 PM
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Cause & effect is hard to untangle here. I know in my younger days I had an easier time hitting on women if I was drunk. And they were more likely to welcome the attention if they were drunk too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 04:59 AM
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Ha! Attractive women do very well selling everything from cell phones to enterprise software.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 04:55 AM
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My ex is from mainland China. Even though she's the only Asian woman I ever dated, several women have assumed I must have Asian fever. One said she thought I was a misogynist at first because Asians are assumed to be submissive. That in itself is rather racist because in my experience with her family, the women often run the show. Chinese women can simultaneously be very feminine and complete ball busters who don't put up with nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 02:28 PM
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Re: the wall - TRP says women desperately latch onto a beta bux provider. I think a more charitable interpretation is that women, having sampled the ups and downs of young bad boys (who are often not very mature) and decided that the more mature, perhaps less exciting beta is a smarter, more rational choice than those guitarists & poets they lusted after in their early twenties. Hell, a lot of times they're the same guy; lots of musicians and vagabonds get tired of the grind and go back to law s…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 11:07 PM
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It's not just solipsism. There's a lot of data to suggest that marrying young has bad odds.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 11:02 PM
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My bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 11:01 PM
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And according to you, only women did it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 08:07 PM
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The vast majority of military personnel never got close to a POW camp, or even combat. On the other hand, syphilis was a huge problem. So much so that the army gave free, confidential treatment (it was excluded from your record). Were they all single guys, none of them cheating on their wives?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 04:53 PM
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I enjoy my job a lot, and the people I work with, but I wouldn't do it for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 07:18 PM
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Have you lived in Colombia? It's awesome. I'm thinking of moving there. It is far from a third-world shithole. It's generally near the top of the world in happiness surveys.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 07:15 PM
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Workers protected by law. Definitely. A girl should be able to call the cops on an abusive john without worrying that she'll end up in jail too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 07:09 PM
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Different strokes for different folks. I've done it not because it was my only option, but because it was a fun option. There are a lot of really cool women who do escorting. I've dated a couple.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 07:02 PM
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If you make something illegal, trafficking becomes MORE likely, not less. Just look at the drug trade. I live in a state where marijuana is legal and the black market is not nearly what it used to be. Overall crime has gone down as well. And if you're really concerned about trafficking, consider that men make up the vast majority of the trafficking market. Something like 80% of human trafficking is for low-skilled labor.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 06:44 PM
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In the US at least there are lots of high-end escorts who use services like P411 and The Erotic Review to screen clients. Also, prostitution is legal in Nevada (but not in Las Vegas).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 06:41 PM
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None of the women I met were children. They were all natives of Medellin, where I was visiting.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 06:40 PM
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Streetwalkers are a small subset. These girls are not streetwalkers.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 04:12 PM
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Not in Australia and Colombia. It's legal in those countries and there are lots of safeguards.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 04:09 PM
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What country are you in?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 04:01 PM
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I've been with several high end escorts and it was awesome. Some really great memories. But it's not the only way I've gotten sex by a long shot. I never saw one until I had already had ~ a dozen partners in my past. Nonetheless I don't talk about it with most women for the reasons mentioned here. I have talked about it with a couple women and it didn't stop them from having sex with me. One even wanted a LTR but I was in a sowing my wild oats stage and didn't pursue it. She's married with a kid…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 03:16 PM
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I'm sure there are exceptions, but most stories I see here are from young-ish people whose current relationship is only a year or two old. I don't consider a "success" until it lasts at least 10 years. Even ten I'm suspicious because I've seen lots of relationships collapse after 15-20 years. They seem good from the outside, but then I talk to them about why it ended its because they have been having problems for a looooong time. They often try to hold it together for the kids but...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/15 03:12 PM
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I suppose so, but I think for ,e it was more about unleashing aspects of my personality that I previously suppressed out of fear about what others might think about me. Now I'm much more open about who I am and what I want. You can do that while still being respectful.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/15 04:25 PM
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In a nutshell, I think less in terms of "men" and "women" (A[MW]ALT) and think more in terms of masculine and feminine. It's a spectrum for both men and women, though they tend to gravitate toward their "natural" state with a few outliers here and there. And my role as a man is to know which is happening at any given moment and polarize when appropriate. A good deal of the time the woman wants to be feminine and trust that a strong masculine presence is there to complement her. But sometimes she…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 04:09 PM
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Heh, the article mentions making his bed in the morning. I once spent the night with a hooker in Colombia and she did exactly that, as well as cleaning up my room in general. Good times.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 12:13 AM
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I think David Deida falls into this camp, though I believe he's not married for the same reasons a lot of RPers oppose it. (That's just a guess by me; he may have completely different reasons).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 12:11 AM
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A variation on the five year waiting period that I'd like to see is that you have to renew your marriage every five years, kind of like a driver's license. I haven't thought about it in details, I'm sure there'd be unintended consequences to that, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 12:08 AM
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Yes but how long has your marriage lasted? I'm in my mid forties. Married for five years, now divorced.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 02:27 PM
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I don't think I'm going to have problems How old are you? What's your longest relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 04:52 AM
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Yeah, stuff like "don't interrupt" is not attractive in an of itself. It's just an extra turnoff. More useful is to learn the positive stuff you can do: how to tell a story, what kind of humor women tend to like etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 04:48 AM
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Or if you do a warm approach and don't get rejected any times Lol. There is a lot of leeway in bar pickup. Two of my favorite memories took place at business networking events (held in bars). I didn't know either of the women, but I approached, started chatting with them and slept with both that same night. (To be clear, two different nights, not two girls in one night). I would never have had the guts to do that before I learned about cold approach. Another memorable one was right after Hurrica…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 02:36 AM
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Or if you do a warm approach and don't get rejected any times Lol. There is a lot of leeway in bar pickup. Two of my favorite memories took place at business networking events (held in bars). I didn't know either of the women, but I approached, started chatting with them and slept with both that same night. (To be clear, two different nights, not two girls in one night). I would never have had the guts to do that before I learned about cold approach. Another memorable one was right after Hurrica…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 02:36 AM
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If it's not rare then why is it newsworthy?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 07:20 PM
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Right. But if I get rejected five times but then get accepted once, I'm still way ahead. If I'm having success, why would I care if a bunch of people I don't know or care about snicker behind my back? "Rejection" is just another word for "practice." Edit: Some of the best memories of my life have come from cold approach. Doesn't mean I get laid every night but I'm damn glad I started doing it. Pro tip: the DC Metro is an excellent place for cold approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 07:06 PM
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If you want to be 'that guy' at the bar. 'That guy' who meets women? It's not like I go to a bar every single night trying to pick up women. But having the skill is useful, especially when traveling.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 03:01 PM
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FWIW only about 30% of Americans have passports.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 05:10 AM
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Are you a student? Opportunities like this drastically narrow when you're out in the real world. And cold approaching in a bar is perfectly fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 04:59 AM
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That keeps someone who's already attracted. The real question is how does a guy approach and sustain enough interest for her to want to come over for a meal in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 08:30 PM
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Put it another way: if I got laid nonstop every day by my pick of women, I'd probably be less motivated overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 03:10 PM
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I'm an INTJ. As it says there: INTJs are prepared to lead if no one else seems up to the task, or if they see a major weakness in the current leadership This is 100% true for me. I've founded successful companies, but never really liked being CEO. I prefer to focus on my core strengths and let someone else lead. If they do a bad job I will step up, but I won't be happy about it. So it's easy for me to see why some women may feel the same way. Put another way, I've talked to lots of very competen…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/15 06:01 PM
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His rants are just tribalism. You could replace "women" with "liberals" or "conservatives" or "Yankees fans" and it wouldn't look out of place from most other crap on the Internet. His ego is tied to the relative status of his "team," so he looks for evidence that support his views and discounts countervailing evidence. Just another form of hamstering.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/15 05:54 PM
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Why do married women vote conservative then? Higher household income and thus more concern about taxes. And in any case it's mostly 50/50 with married women, not overwhelmingly conservative.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/15 05:45 PM
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Who said anything about "every man?" I was responding to this assertion: The fact that they're on dating sites by and large means they aren't fucking somebody
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/15 05:39 PM
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For every young woman I hook up with, there are at least two dozen who reject me. Hell, the ratio isn't much better with women my own age.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/15 05:37 PM
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Of course it's obvious. And it's also obvious that they'll nonetheless sleep with a slut, perhaps even dangling relationship as bait. You don't even have to be RP to do that. But a woman can't know that about a guy in advance, so it's entirely reasonable for her to be coy about it. Dollars to donuts that women get shamed less now than they did, say, 10 years ago, and that proportionally more therefore don't feel ashamed. Just because it's not 100% right at this moment in time doesn't mean larger…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/15 12:02 AM
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I just don't think someone doing casual is really looking for a relationship I do that, and I'm a guy. The difference between purple me and blue me is that I now I don't just jump into a committed relationship simply because that's what the girl wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 11:57 PM
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Yeah, no. I'm on several dating sites, but I also get regular sex. Technology just makes it easier to fish in a bigger pond.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 11:55 PM
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Agree that an average woman can get sex rather easily. But getting good sex is not as easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 11:54 PM
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Capitalism was the natural state of things in civilizations that encouraged personal determinism since the dawn of civilization. Sort of. Feudalism reigned for a loooong time. Edit: and my point with calling it industrial capitalism is that it allowed massive scale never even imaginable before. Hell, even in the late 90s the idea that a company like Facebook could have a billion users was unfathomable.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 11:50 PM
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RP does not advise them to be deceitful. It advises be honest, and have nothing to be deceitful about RP does no such thing. "Sexual strategy is amoral." I'm not saying it is or is not empowering, but neither is it shameful. For perspective: once upon a time it was shameful to admit you had cancer. Doctors wouldn't even tell a woman; they would tell her husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 11:49 PM
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This isn't a video game. Who said it was? Do you think 1914 would have played out the way it was if populations were declining rather than expanding? I suspect not. (And in any case a lot of other shit happened then too, such as secret alliances. Most countries don't do that any more because they learned how risky they are.) Humans have walked the earth for hundreds of thousands of years. Industrial capitalism is only 300 years old. We've only just begun to explore what's possible in terms of ec…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 07:19 PM
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Not with me she doesn't. Never been a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 05:21 PM
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Great, you found someone who agrees with you. But it's possible you would try to hook up with someone who doesn't. And she might find your views repugnant, so at a minimum I suspect you'd keep the harsher parts to yourself until after you've slept together. You're claiming that because a woman doesn't tell you her N right away, then she must be ashamed. There are rational, non-ashamed reasons to refuse to disclose that info, especially in the early days of a relationship. Edit: For example, I've…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 05:07 PM
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Wars are generally about resource constraints. Fewer people, fewer resource constraints. Or more accurately, lower growth, lower aggregate demand for resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 05:05 PM
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The best of limited options is not the same as the best. I've hooked up with one semi-fat woman out of about 50 total. She gave a good blowjob but I was not turned on by intercourse with her. I could see her again if I wanted, but choose not to. Not attracted.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 04:31 PM
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Sure, but that's in response to the environment, which creates certain incentives. If the environment changes, the incentives will changes as well. I'm not saying the change would be a walk in the park, but a falling population overall would likely lead to less conflict overall as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 04:25 PM
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No more easily than other species. Less so. You don't see lions living near the Arctic circle, or polar bears in the tropics.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 04:24 PM
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Do you find TRP empowering? Do you disclose your beliefs about it to everyone you hook up with?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 04:23 PM
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Everyone is so obsessed with birth rates like it's the end of the world. The modern industrial nation state is a very recent phenomenon, and is an adaption to changing ideas about what it means to be a human. New ideas about humanity will emerge and we'll adapt, just like humans have adapted for tens of thousands of years.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 02:20 PM
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Because they suspect you will judge them. And based on your flair that's a pretty safe bet. Playing the percentages. Isn't that what RP advise men? To play the odds?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 06:22 AM
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College.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/15 08:23 PM
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Interestingly, just last night I hooked up with a girl who's 24 years younger than me (she just graduated in December) and she told me part of what she likes about me is that I'm respectful. I've been told I'm handsome so I've got that going for me, and I've hooked up with women 15-20 years younger before. Still, it surprises me when it happens. Here's something I learned from Wayne Elise, who wrote one of the chapters in The Game: if you're not sure if a girl is into you, you can simply ask. "A…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/15 06:42 PM
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You made an assertion about the "rules of engagement" people from different eras experienced. I'm disagreeing with that assertion.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 06:33 PM
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Yeah, no. I'm one of those guys who grew up in the 70s and 80s and this does not ring true at all. And I've dated women from the millenial generation -- in fact I'm seeing a 22yo tonight -- and I don't see a lot of generational differences, save perhaps that younger women are less entitled. A lot of women my age still expect a phone call asking her out.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 04:43 PM
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The decline in social pathologies? That's the story of the last 20 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 02:51 PM
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As the new generations grow up we will need more police, more social workers, and more psychiatrists to try to cope with all of us being raised by worthless single mothers. When is this supposed to happen again? Because crime has been going down for twenty years.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 03:36 AM
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Ready for a career? Expect to be told you aren't qualified for a position because you're female Laughable. Just today I interviewed a female coder. Three years out of college and she's making $96k. I didn't make that kind of money until I had started and sold a company at the age of 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 03:12 AM
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Math and science will see so many subtle and unsubtle comments about how you don't belong here. Push towards home ec. Yeah I call bullshit on this too. My sister studied computers at a big state school in the South in the late 70s, and has since built a very lucrative career in corporate IT, mostly in the South as well. She says she's never felt excluded.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 03:08 AM
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It's not about breaking up, it's about the first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/15 10:09 PM
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But my point is, what if he said "sure, you pay"? Would that change your attraction to him? I've asked this of lots of women who claim to always offer to pay, and to a person they've said there would be no second date.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/15 07:07 PM
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What happens when they take you up on it? Is there a second date?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/15 07:01 PM
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Trying to reduce human behavior to economics is like limiting physics to the study of Newtonian forces. You can observe interesting things at that level of aggregation, but there are lots of anomalies where the standard model falls apart. People like Daniel Kahneman and Dan Ariely have demonstrated this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/15 03:42 PM
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Basic realities supply and demand Which are driven by evo psych. Markets don't exist without desire, and desire is just an emotional drive. SMV is meaningless if no one wants to fuck. That's evo psych.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/15 04:01 AM
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What drives economics?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/15 12:26 AM
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If you've ever had conflicting emotions -- say, the desire to have sex with your friend's girlfriend, but your loyalty to him suppresses that desire -- that's morality. Moral codes are just systems for mediating conflicting emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/15 04:07 PM
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The top 20% of men are more attractive than the rest, they can have sex with 80% of the women I've always read it that they're having 80% of the total sex (or maybe 80% of sex with new partners as opposed to the same one for years), not sex with 80% of the women. And IIRC the distributions of sex I've seen seem to bear that out. Can't find a link at the moment but my recollection is that the top 20% of men measured by promiscuity are having sex with a roughly equal percentage of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 12:47 AM
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Seriously, you don't believe women are good for, say, nursing men in the burn ward, psychotherapy for soldiers suffering from PTSD, or selling beer via swimsuit ads?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/15 09:11 PM
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I always hear RPers say they love sluts for plate-spinning but don't trust them for a LTR. This advice seems to be about sexual attraction, not LTRs, so I'd say it's consistent with RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/15 07:04 PM
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However, why do you see your mom in every woman? This is the right question. He won't find the answer here. Only in therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/15 03:33 PM
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You're trying to make a point about women, but the point applies to all humans. Of course she's irrationally attracted to the guy, just like men are irrationally attracted to hot girls who barely give them any attention. I agree that women usually have it easier when it comes to getting attention, but I don't think they have it easier when it comes to getting what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/15 03:05 PM
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Men want to be objectified. Who do you think buys bodybuilding magazines? Gay men objectify each other to hell and back and love it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/15 02:56 PM
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Cute thing is she knows he has massive appeal to not just her but other girls around him, yet can't explain why. If a 10/10 were flirting with you, would you turn it down? Even though you "know knows she has massive appeal to not just you but other guys around you?"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/15 02:50 PM
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I'm damn impressed by Joan of Arc.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/15 03:12 PM
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Solipsism is not gendered.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/15 07:51 PM
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This is why I probably won't have kids. I'm on the wrong side of 45.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/15 05:08 PM
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And now he's with one of the most beautiful women in the world, who defends him on Twitter. What a loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/15 02:41 PM
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What does "owning your own shit" Recognizing your own insecurities, biases and limiting beliefs, and voicing them when appropriate, instead of lashing out when touched in a sore spot. Women are taught to be careful not to hurt the sensitive male ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/15 12:24 AM
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How long is "a while", exactly? How much cocky-funny is too much? At some point it comes across as narcissism and arrogance. Just because something is difficult to quantify doesn't mean it's unquantifiable.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/15 05:11 PM
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This is such nonsense. I've found the vulnerability makes women more attracted to you. It's not the only attraction trigger, and all vulnerability all the time is too much, but just being willing to own your shit is much more authentic than bravado.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/15 05:09 PM
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I must be an outlier. I've done it multiple times. I've also seen multiple therapists over the years, male and female, and generally preferred the women. A divorced woman I used to date said one of the biggest frustrations in her marriage was her husband's rejection of her emotional support. Whenever he was feeling down, she would try to cheer him up by telling him how smart, talented or athletic he was (he went to college on a baseball scholarship). He would just get snippy and storm off to the…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/15 05:07 PM
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Me neither.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/15 04:50 PM
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I'm in the tiny minority who haven't. Though I used to fear it when I lived (for seven years) in an extremely tough, 95% Latino neighborhood in Chicago.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/15 03:38 PM
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I'm not RP but agree with this. There are certain topics men can only discuss with other men. I assume the same is kind of true with women, but for men we have certain... interests that a huge percentage of women find distasteful and worthy of shame. Oh, they'll say "you're free to be who you want to be, I won't judge you," but try talking to a girl seriously about all the hot girls you see every day that you'd like to have sex with, especially if you're a middle-aged guy like me who (like 95% o…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/15 04:08 PM
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That's true, but it also amplifies bad feelings among RPers too. That's great if you're Fox News or a "movement" I suppose -- anger sells! But TRP says they're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/15 02:13 AM
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I live in the US and have sarged in LA, New York, Denver, Austin, the Carribean and Medellin, Colombia. I've seen guys perform poorly but never more than "get lost" from the girl, and that's usually because he opened poorly or said something dickish (i.e. a poorly done neg). I have seen guys get hostile when someone hits on their girlfriend. And even if it happened once in every place I've sarged, that would still be less than 5% of all approaches. That's a far cry from "women despise betas" and…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 09:51 PM
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No problem with that. When people use hostile language it invites hostile actions and contemptuous views of "the other." Feminists and various flavors of SJW are not exempt from this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 09:50 PM
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What if she got smacked by a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 06:29 PM
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YMMV. I've hit on hundreds of women and coached others on how to do it as well. I've never seen a negative reaction like that. Disinterest, sure, but not hostility.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 06:26 PM
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they aren't noticed, except in the rare case when a woman needs to kick him out of her way and back into the gutter where he belongs. I agree that they aren't noticed, but where TRP and I part ways is the notion that women "kick him out of the way" or, what you more commonly hear: "women despise betas." The same phenomenon happens in popular culture with unattractive people in general. They don't get any romantic attention, but that's different than saying people "despise" them. If TRP didn't us…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 03:41 PM
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They're just better at hiding it Put another way, men get caught more. Would you stay with your wife if she cheated? Would you be surprised if you cheated and she divorced you? Cite the 8 out of 10 number. The most i've seen is sixty-something percent. If men are, say, 20% worse at getting caught, the difference disappears.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/15 10:33 PM
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I kinda sorta agree with this. That is, if there were a pill like Prozac that someone could take that would magically make them stop wanting to change their gender, I think a lot of them would take it if for no other reason than it's much less expensive and invasive than hormones, surgery etc. However, the stories I've heard about how miserable trans people are, and how making the transition alleviates much of that misery, leads me to view gender reassignment as viable a treatment as any other.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/15 07:39 PM
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The same kind who do fucked up shit like Munchausen syndrome by proxy. I know a woman whose mom did that to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/15 07:00 PM
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Yet during the great depression, the birth rate was higher Higher than now? Or higher than it was in the 10 years before the Depression?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/15 12:31 AM
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Yet you have no explanation for why 1950s America had far above replacement birth rates compared to 2010s America for the White population? It's a long-term trend. Birth rates go down with GDP growth. The US has a higher absolute GDP now than in 1950, and in 1950 it had a higher absolute GDP than 1900. Whites get a disproportionate share of GDP, so their birth rate declines faster than others'. One may as well ask why the top 10% economically has lower birth rates than the bottom 50%. Fist gener…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/15 12:30 AM
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So what did you get out of TRP that you don't think was something your parents should have taught you? Women like leaders not just in the boardroom but in most aspects of romantic life. Also, I had no idea how important confidence is to attraction, nor how to display confidence. I grew up in a conservative, upper class, generally happy two-parent household, but those facts were not made clear to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 06:42 PM
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I think this quote sums why I'm not full-on RP: That’s the crux of trying to interact with a human, though: there isn’t a formula,” says McGrath. “Human connection is not formulaic. Does it have statistics, can you look at data, can you research it and quantify it? Sure. But in one-to-one, it is always variable. That’s where those things fail.” This isn’t entirely unique to programmers — a look at glossy magazine headlines or popular self-help books suggests that many people are interested in fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 04:07 PM
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It is not an attempt to solve a new problem Regardless of what you think of RP advice, don't you think the sexual/feminist revolution has created new problems? In the same that way the pretty much all new technology has side effects?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 03:38 PM
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I'm partial to the David Deida approach. It's purple. He comes across as a little hippy-trippy spirtual in his marketing but having done a workshop with him I know there's a lot of substance there. In a nutshell, he says we're in an era of third-wave relationships. First wave was patriarchy. Second wave was feminist revolt and sexual revolution. Third wave is about couples discovering and celebrating their masculine and feminine essences, and using them to create more fulfilling relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 03:36 PM
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Actually, the would be an interesting experiment. A man could place and ad saying he's looking for someone to have and raise his children and that he would provide a salary for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 03:30 PM
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Women play at politicians fever pitch over the leadership of the PTA ! Men too. Think of fights breaking out at youth sporting events. (Or now that I think about it, adult rec league. On my soccer team we had a few hotheads.) If men went to more PTA meetings and engaged in traditionally feminine group activities, I've no doubt the same shit would happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 03:28 PM
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Men have a different game, once that seem to involve less day to day in/out group hostility but then occasionally overflows into genuine in/out group violent warfare. Oh c'mon. Look at politics. It's still mostly dominated by men and is the epitome of lying, opportunism and backstabbing. War is just a violent form of politics, and it requires persuasion, propaganda and jingoism to get the population to support it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 02:46 AM
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Who would bear and raise the children?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 02:33 AM
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Eh, sort of. I like big tits, but except for a few genetic freaks most women with big tits tend to be heavier. Or they have fake boobs, which look okay when dressed up but are not as fun to play with. If I have to pick between big tits and a tight body I'll take the tight body every time.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 01:04 AM
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Then they're not actually friends. They're just people who have a false impression of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 12:59 AM
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Would you be able to share your deepest self with all your friends For the longest time I was very guarded about this, but as I got older I experimented with being more and more open, and it's paid off in terms of tighter relationships. For example, I've written about my struggles with depression and alcoholism on Facebook. Vulnerability is attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 12:30 AM
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My female friends respect me because I'm a viable man. But do they actually know you? For example, would you be willing to show them what you read and write in TRP? If not, then maybe you can only their "friend" under false pretenses.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 12:26 AM
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Seriously? Half of the discussion on PPD is about sex and you won't even answer the most basic questions about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 07:20 PM
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she won't be able to pair bond. No evidence for this. There is correlation but assigning a biological explanation is extreme speculation.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 07:19 PM
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The measure of honor is how difficult it is. If honor were easy, then anyone could do it. Getting weaselly about what is "good" for men begs the question: what is "good" for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 07:18 PM
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Many people get married just because it's time, and not because they think they've really found their soul mate. How is that gendered? I know more than a few guys in 10+ year marriages who are miserable. And not necessarily for lack of sex. One close friend in particular gets all the sex he wants from his wife; he just can't fucking stand living with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 07:15 PM
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So based on this you must only like three of: boobs, ass, personality, nice smile, clear skin, blonde/brunette/red hair, smaller than you, shorter than you, into sports etc etc ad infinitum.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 07:11 PM
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And down the rabbit hole we go. Any stat is worthless if you assume women always lie. So how about the prevalence of a group we know lies: con artists. Here's a list of infamous con artists. Notice how few women there are? Con artists lie for a living, the rest of us lie based on the stakes. Given that the RP view of the male imperative -- men want to fuck lots of women, women want to snare the best alpha available -- does it not strike you as odd that you're arguing women are more likely to lie…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 07:09 PM
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You cared enough to insult her response.Or at least that's what I took from your comment about having a list of 15. Do you insult dogs who lick their asses too?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 07:03 PM
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This strikes me more thst his hiding his feelings was the issue, not that he had the feelings at all. Hiding your true emotions is a form of lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 06:04 AM
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I largely agree, which is why I think the claim that "men are more honorable" is bunk. Marriage is the single most important decision most men will make. Most other decisions having to do with your word only last for a short period. It's easy to be "a man of your word" for a few months or even a few years. Much harder for twenty or thirty. Hell, many of the apex alphas in history were lying backstabbers. Exhibit A is the British monarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 11:29 PM
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An alternative explanation is that promiscuous women care less about what society thinks if they get divorced. None of the research I've seen says it has anything to do with sexual satisfaction per se.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 11:22 PM
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Why would I give 2 shits about how many things are on her list? I don't know. You're the one who raised the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 11:12 PM
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And yet men still cheat at a higher rate than women. And many more men are diagnosable sociopaths than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 11:11 PM
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What results have you seen? More sex? More women? Better relationship with your SO etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 11:01 PM
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How many sex partners have you had? At what age did you lose your virginity? Or are you still a virgin?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 11:00 PM
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Why are you no longer extremist?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 10:57 PM
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She answered the OP's question. What, she's only allowed to have a list of three things she finds attractive, everything else is neutral or repellent?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 10:56 PM
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If you think "hypergamy prevents it" then you must also concede that "attraction to younger, fitter women prevents it" in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 10:51 PM
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How many asshat comments can you post on the Internet before a girl decides you're too much of a troll?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 09:57 PM
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So there's obviously a psychological impact in the women after each subsequent partner. No there's not. There's no indication -- none, not even from that most recent study -- that promiscuity is the cause per se. The more likely explanation is they care less about social shaming and so are more willing to get a divorce than stay together merely to keep up appearances.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 09:52 PM
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Why do men having more sexual partners don't lead to them divorcing their wives? There is a correlation, but not as strong as with women. Also, a lot of married guys see prostitutes on the side. A lot. I mean, technically the marriage is still intact so I guess that's good, but it doesn't indicate the marriage is happy per se.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 09:51 PM
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Before going without a condom I always get tested and expect my partner to do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 09:48 PM
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I'm pretty sure most pornstars are well into the thousands. Not really for women. The tend to fuck the same guys over and over. Male pornstars have higher partner counts but they have much longer careers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 09:47 PM
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You don't think two people can live happily/peacefully for many years? It's unlikely. Not impossible, not infinitesimally small, but a large majority of marriages either end in divorce or stagger on in misery. I know lots of people with 20+ year marriages that are miserable. Last night I discovered that a very rich friend of mine, a name most Redditors would recognize, just got divorced after ~20 years together. They seemed happy from the outside....
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 09:45 PM
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Ha, my dad used to say that horse ownership was a huge red flag. Of course, we owned horses too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 09:41 PM
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The one that was not submitted to an a academic journal, not peer-reviewed and that only examined 418 couples? Meaning it surveyed fewer people than a presidential poll? No, I don't think it's definitive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 03:13 PM
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"alpha widow" Bro-science.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 12:30 AM
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Studies, plural. I read them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 12:30 AM
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ok so you just admitted that you are trying to get men out of your league to commit. Everyone wants this. The only thing that determines one's league is whether the commitment stuck. Or do you think attractive men never lead women on?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 11:20 PM
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Those stats are deeply flawed. They don't count # of sex partners before divorce, just lifetime total, and they usually only count the first ten years of marriage. So if she got married as a virgin, then divorced the guy in year 9, then went out and fucked a lot of guys, those stats would suggest the promiscuity caused the divorced when they are not at all correlated. If she made it to year 11 without divorcing there's a good chance she won't show up at all. This has been my personal experience.…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 11:16 PM
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Selection pressure around the need to control assets i.e. a man should never raise another man's child, make sure your woman is loyal etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 10:56 PM
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My main beef is with the word "strategy." I'm not convinced that 10,000 years of agriculture has been long enough to produce the changes TRP claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 09:47 PM
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You're falling into the TRP trap of misusing "sexual strategy." In evolutionary terms, sexual strategy is an emergent phenomenon, not a dating how-to guide. TRPs strongest evolutionary arguments that I've seen revolve around some historical facts: more women have procreated than men (a lot more), which means some men impregnated multiple women many women in the past covertly raised one man's child with another man's financial support (which means she had to lie convincingly). This means, broadly…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 09:27 PM
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The feminist movement changed the institution of marriage from an economic arrangement based around producing children to an agreement based on mutual love and respect. Strongly agree. As a middle-aged divorced guy, I've dated dozens of similarly aged divorced women over the last five years. The vast majority don't have a strong interest in re-marrying (though we all fall in the "never say never" camp). They would ideally like to find one partner for the rest of their lives, but most of them rec…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 09:19 PM
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Yeah, and it's 100% curable by focusing on yourself and what you can control. This is standard self-help advice. It doesn't take TRP to deal with it. A lot of attractive women have horrible self esteem issues too. Do You recommend they go on the internet and rant about how it's all men's fault?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 05:28 PM
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Yes & no. The girls I'm most attracted to don't wear a lot of makeup. Mostly eye liner to make their eyes pop more, plus a little mascara. Putting on a ton of base & blush only works for strippers (i.e. who do their work in dark rooms) and actresses/models on the big screen or magazine cover. In person it's overkill.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 04:43 PM
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Why so many men don't see this and continue to be intimidated or made to feel relatively bad looking is a mystery to me. Wat? You see makeup on a girl and feel bad about yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 04:41 PM
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Ugh, Heartiste. Another guy who is all talk but no one has actually seen him run game in person.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 01:02 AM
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Blogging about abstract concepts is one thing, detailed TRP field reports are something else. Look at someone like Roosh - he's held up as some kind of PUA god when he frankly admits he has terrible game in some countries. Has anyone ever even done a boot camp with him, seen what he's like in person? Not that I think it's all garbage. I've done workshops myself as well as a lot of in-person work with people like Neil Strauss and David Deida. (Not pickup-focused. More like spiritual/mental/financ…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 08:55 PM
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aggregation of the anecdotes of hundreds. ...hundreds of very angry young men venting their spleen online. Complainers are always over-represented for the same reason TV news and talk radio likes to manufacture controversies. It's like listening to Rush Limbaugh and his callers and thinking that presents an accurate picture of our political system.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 07:14 PM
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He sounds more like a pathological liar than anything. Lots of celebs get laid by lots of women without getting that kind of vitriol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/15 02:37 PM
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Actually, I don't think it had anything to do with negging or dread game, neither of which I've ever endorsed. It's just that I've noticed that most women want to feel taken care of in a relationship, and there are lots of little behaviors that either reinforce or undermine that feeling. Because I'm still seeing RPers breaking up with their "marriage material" women for some reason. I'm not. The guys I know who lean more red tend to have better marriages. And in my cohort we're talking about cou…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 04:41 PM
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I didn't become purple until after my divorce. No plans or desire to re-marry but my "redder" skills guarantee I'm never alone. When I was BP I was often lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/15 08:09 PM
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Hate to admit it but I agree. I wasted most of my twenties with a radical feminist who I almost married. Thank the old gods and the new that I didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/15 08:07 PM
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I think this perfectly encapsulates female entitlement. Men are expected to level up to women's expectations, but how often do you hear about the other way around? What if it were a man complaining about her shaving her twat more often? I'm an excessively neat person who hates clutter and keeps my place clean as a whistle. I wouldn't want to live with a slob either. But personal preferences are personal preferences. They're not the same thing as character. So when you hear complaints about who d…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/15 04:09 PM
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Yes. It's a variation on playing hard to get.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/15 03:57 PM
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It happened in my marriage for a while. My ex wanted more sex and I wasn't providing it. We did eventually fix it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/15 03:24 PM
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Men can get alimony in the US, but it's not common.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/15 06:37 AM
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I'd like to know the answer to this, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 03:01 PM
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This is parody, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 05:28 AM
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Useful for some, too easily co-opted by "leaders" who get off on the power trip. My unscientific observation is that women tend to be at least a little more spiritual than men, but men are much more likely to lead a religious/spiritual order.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 10:31 PM
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Just curious of your thoughts on this. I've been binge-watching the Sopranos the last couple weeks. Tony Soprano is uber-masculine, but he solves most of his problems through violence. However, he never uses violence on his family members. Yelling, yes, but never physical violence. I'm curious: have you watched the show, and do you see him as attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 05:03 PM
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but something tells me I am in control, at least to a small degree That feeling is part of the illusion, just like any other illusion. The difference with free will vs. an optical illusion is that there is no "reality" to compare your situation to. Just your own perception, which is rooted in your consciousness and thus subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 04:51 PM
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Sexual strategy is amoral amirite?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 04:47 PM
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media told them it would be easy to bed hot girls ... if you buy this cologne/car/beer - which I tried so many times and it didn't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/15 08:54 PM
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Just like the TV, Radio, Telephone, and printing press were going to 'ruin sexuality'. I never claimed these things were going to "ruin" sexuality. Only that they have an impact, and that in some case it's negative. People's appetite for food hasn't changed much in thousands of years either, but now we have an obesity problem, and it's due in part to food production technology. It would be idiotic to claim "nope, access to cheap Big Macs doesn't matter one bit to aggregate population health." Or…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/15 08:50 PM
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When was the Kama Sutra written? ... What exactly about human sexuality do you think has changed in the last 100 years? LOL that's not the point. People have always been horny. What's changed is access and ability to quickly fulfill your desires. The Kama Sutra wasn't widely distributed until the printing press. and even then you had to go into an adult bookstore instead of just Googling it. Oral sex was less common 40 years ago. Now it's contributing to higher oral cancer rates. You can't wave …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/15 07:47 PM
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Which is it, dude: nothing has changed or everything has changed? Are you arguing that sexuality has not changed at all in the last 100 years thanks to access to porn?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/15 07:23 PM
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http://www.learnawesome.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/CDsalesprojection.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/15 06:14 PM
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Realtors have always been able to work from home. Farmers have worked from home for centuries. Mechanics, contractors, etc. This is really getting idiotic. You seem hellbent on proving that access to porn, and the amount of consumption of porn, has not changed one iota in the last 25 years. It's laughable. Ask all the porn producers. Porn has become so ubiquitous that a once-obscenely-profitable business has become much more difficult to make money in. Next you can argue that music piracy is the…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/15 04:30 PM
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David Lynch: the epitome of realism.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/15 03:39 PM
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In that case he gets laid in spite of the boasting, not because of it. The truth is guys often make mistakes with women all the time, but oftentimes women give them a pass, just like you might still sleep with a girl whose ass is bigger than you prefer.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/15 03:33 PM
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You think it's possible he's lying? His writing doesn't suggest he's the sharpest tool in the shed, or very self-aware.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/15 03:31 PM
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Bragging is very bad for seduction. Hinting about your adventures can be good, but sex should only be part of the adventure. For example, I have a story I sometimes tell about having a three-way in New York right after Hurricane Sandy, but I don't mention the sex part until the very end. The sex is just the icing on the cake.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/15 03:30 PM
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Dunno about you, but as a guy in his mid-forties I know I view a lot more porn now than I did in my twenties. And now I can do it in the middle of the workday because I work from home. When I was in my twenties it was impossible to work from home. Now it's so easy that I'm going to S. America for two months to work from there. I'm not saying porn is the devil, but it's ridiculous to pretend that absolutely nothing is different from 25 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/15 03:24 PM
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Frequency and variety. I'm old enough to remember going to the video store and the dirty section of the magazine store. Internet is 10x better.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/15 02:22 PM
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Personally I prefer putt-putt for dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/15 04:38 PM
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try game in a place that's severely stacked against them. That's when game is most important. To stand out from the crowd of other guys vying for her attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/15 01:55 PM
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Some of the funniest threads I've ever read are some incel pretending he was juggling 4 plates. This is an extreme situation. I suspect many FRs are not lies, but that they exaggerate or omit important details. Some details may not even be known to the poster (i.e. he may think he has really good game when it turns out she was determined to fuck somebody that night to get back at an ex).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 05:34 PM
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DO you really care about the hardships women face? Men care to the degree that it helps them get laid. White knighting etc
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 05:30 PM
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I go to male friends for some problems, but the best help I've ever gotten is from a female psychotherapist. She's really outstanding. I don't know if gender has anything to do with it but she's fairly feminine, but also very professional.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 05:28 PM
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No, men wear blue and women pink because biotrufs And women commit less crime because gender is 100% socially constructed, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 05:23 PM
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Eh, I've been with several gals with implants and prefer natural. Even small natural is better than medium sized fake. Implants can look nice when she's dressed up and showing off her cleavage, but I'd get tired of them pretty quickly in a LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 05:21 PM
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Homogenous populations like the USA?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 05:03 PM
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More people should do this IMO. It's easy to blame other people for your problems. Much more difficult to ask whether and how you contributed to the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 12:10 AM
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I was going to stay the same thing. This happens in person too. A guy hits on a girl, gets rejected and then calls her a stuck up bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 12:07 AM
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Not so sure about that. TRP rails against Western women and their sense of entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 12:04 AM
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Because of the prefrontal cortex. Nature is still there but (partly) suppressed. Thus a gay man can be turned on by men but stay in the closet for years.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/15 09:25 PM
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My point still stands. Excessive pride has outlived it's evolutionary usefulness.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/15 05:51 PM
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No, I think it's stupid for women too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/15 02:03 AM
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you can take credit for your part in the collective effort. Then you presumably take credit for all the shitty stuff your society and ancestors have done too? I think pride is a stupid emotion that leads to stupid stuff on a mass scale. The idiots of ISIS do what they do because of religious pride. German & Japanese aggression was about national pride. Subjugation of black people in the US was about race pride. The Inquisition was about religious pride. Going off on a PPD post by a woman is abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/15 07:07 PM
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Due to the technology and work men provide you with, And you too. Did you build western civilization? No? Then why are you taking credit for it? Do you also take credit for all the crime, ranging from petty theft to genocide, that men have committed?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/15 02:21 PM
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Or older rich guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/15 07:14 PM
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They definitely exist - my friends and I call them Queen Bees. I've been with a couple. They were both very hot, career oriented and not above using sex appeal to get what they want. They both also were divorced with children. Of my small sample set, they love to be dominated in the bedroom. Outside the bedroom they seem to value competence and a no-whining-get-it-done attitude. In a woman, alpha-ness isn't attractive to me per se unless she is really smart. A dumb-but-dominant chick is not attr…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 04:03 PM
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but this guy had life or death power over the lives of the people underneath him, and he lacked the discipline to keep his dick in his pants. Which is part of the reason I've always disliked TRP's argument that men are somehow more honorable, loyal and less a slave to their emotions. This kind of scandal has happened with powerful (and not-so-powerful) men since the beginning of time - Bill Clinton, JFK all the way back to Marc Antony.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/15 11:28 PM
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Not to mention that Petraeus was running the CIA! He had to be very careful about who he fooled around with (and in the end he wasn't careful enough).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/15 09:53 PM
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This is true of all advice. There's nothing gender-specific about it. It's not so much "women have no idea what they want" as "you're asking bad questions." I do agree that it's better to ask men because they are more focused on the objective (sex) than women (relationship).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/15 06:28 PM
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here's an interesting exchange I had about that subject. Not really that interesting. You were playing a game of asking her a question, then penalizing her for not being as specific as you wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/15 02:51 PM
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Yeah but would you point-blank tell a girl you're interested in that you've slept with dozens of others? It's one thing to show confidence and that you know the game, but literally telling a girl you're promiscuous tends to work against a guy IME.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 05:37 PM
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Do you think 'high SMV' men are going to tell when women turn them down for sex/dates? Not a chance Of course they do. That's why the PUA community started doing field reports. People like Neil Strauss and Wayne Elise developed their reputations by writing detailed field reports about what worked and, most importantly, what didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/15 05:09 PM
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So a person's sexual history has zero impact on their approach to sex and relationships? Everyone's a blank slate with each passing partner? Interesting. In most areas of life, more experience is a good thing. It's how people become more mature.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 09:36 PM
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Guys would cheat waaay more often if they didn't have to make the first move.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 09:32 PM
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I briefly dated a woman with Asperger's (this one). While it was definitely a handicap for her in some ways, in others I think it actually helped her as a media personality. She has no filter and often says things that, if they came out of the mouth of a man, would be seen as threatening or weird (lots of talk about sex for example).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 03:26 PM
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So if I see a hot girl and comment that I would love to bang her, am I sexist? That's the kind of thing guys say to each other all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 10:17 PM
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Of course misogyny exists. It's just another variant on tribal instincts. Men who treat women the way they treat men, without benevolent or hostile sexism, are seen as overwhelmingly sexist by both genders. I do think this is something that feminists don't get. Guys are crude to each other all the time. While I suppose you have to police anti-social behavior on some level in order to have a functioning society, I think women really have no clue what goes through men's head on an ongoing basis. B…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 01:41 PM
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I don't think TRP is dangerous in the main. The reason I compared it to jihadis is that using extreme examples helps clarify moral understanding. I do think its incorrect use of "sexual strategy is amoral" leads guys to think they can do stuff that's immoral under the mistaken impression that it's okay because it's amoral. you must consider TRP wrong in a way that it causes negative side effects when used as a strategy. Is this correct? Rape is a legitimate sexual strategy. So much so that I gua…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 05:14 PM
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Is a sword or gun moral? Are instructions for making a bomb moral? How about a guide to enriching nuclear materials? Sometimes. Why do you think some people refuse to work in the defense industry? More to the point - how would you describe jihadis who run a web forum that teach people how to make roadside bombs and, by the way, argue that the infidel is no more mature than a teenager? "Sexual strategy." It has a specific meaning in an evolutionary context that RPers ignore, conflating an unconsc…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 02:24 PM
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What if a girl has a tendency to yell when arguing? If I tell her that's one of my boundaries and walk away when she does it. Am I abusive? I ask because my ex did that to me and I agreed to it. I stopped yelling in response to her setting boundaries. Was I abused?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/15 05:22 PM
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Your relationship with this women has defined her. Without it she has nothing left. You lost me here. Women have no agency to set their own boundaries and expectations?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/15 05:02 PM
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Choose pretty.... OR.... Chose smart... I've always heard "hot, smart, emotionally stable: pick two"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/15 03:19 PM
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sexual strategy is amoral. Sexual strategy is amoral for the species. Individual actions taken in a moral context (i.e. society) are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/15 03:28 AM
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Just curious, how old is your son? Do you expect things will change when he's older and more autonomous?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 10:36 PM
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They are for the guys acting, and so actually doing moral/immoral things, to sort out. Exactly. So if someone references an RP field report that includes immoral behavior, and someone here says "that's immoral," don't play the "sexual strategy is amoral" card. We're no longer in the realm of theoretical ideas, but actual behavior. Judge people by their behavior. That's a RP tenet right?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 07:12 PM
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Hey ... Jail Population... You aware of that ? Yup, they're aware too. Some people don't give a fuck. The guys behaved immorally and now they're suffering. It doesn't matter if they DGAF, we still call them immoral and severely restrict their movements, which most of them do give a fuck about. If they complain about how shitty prison is, we say "yeah, maybe you should've made a different decision when you were at a moral crossroads." Would RP guys say the same thing to a RPer who took "amoral" a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 04:51 PM
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Here the killing the woman is (for me) probably immoral (I mean, did she come at me with a knife, for example ?) Those possible extenuating circumstances? That's what morality is. Morals are a social system designed to mediate conflicting instincts. One instinct is to take what you want (i.e. selfishiness) vs. being concerned with the welfare of others (altruism). So if there's a dead woman laying on the ground, we have a moral code (not "amoral code") to determine how you acted. Was it self def…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 04:47 PM
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I am only happy doing stuff I consider moral. Then it's not amoral. You've assigned a moral value to your actions. You can hamster away that "it's all amoral bro, do what you want" but at the end of the day you live in a society that has a moral code meant to moderate conflicting instincts. Consider: would it be amoral to kill a woman and fuck her after she's dead? Expecting it to respect a desire to not be hypocritical kill people... is cutting out all the guys who don't give a shit about hypoc…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 03:47 PM
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I don't know whether insecurity === not wanting a girl with a high partner count, but insecurity is definitely a male weakness that matters more in terms of attraction. One of the upsides of getting older is letting go of insecurities (for a lot of men, but many don't).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 03:29 PM
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RP doesn't care about hypocrisy. It's amoral. It may not care, but not caring does not make it amoral. You appear to be falling into the trap of "sexual strategy is amoral," which is a species wide concept. Understanding moral precepts and behaving according to them is just as much a part of the natural state of humanity as live birth.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 03:27 PM
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Exactly. And the fact that men and women cheat at roughly the same rate indicates much more faithful women are than men in the face of temptation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 03:33 AM
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Bill Cosby. High value man? Rapist? Both?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 02:21 AM
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I kind of agree with /u/relationshipdownvote on this: I don't think a survey is the proper way to measure that. RP types go on about how women lie on surveys, but I think men often lie on surveys too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 05:19 PM
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Regardless of the time of month, men are much more willing than women to have sex with a complete stranger. While it might be scary to think women are more likely to be tempted on some days than others, consider that men are tempted pretty much every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 05:15 PM
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You're innocent until proven guilty, but in the course of a trial conflicting evidence my come up. The question put to the jury is not whether you're innocent but rather whether you're guilty beyond reasonable doubt. So some of the evidence may make you look guilty, but there may be other evidence (or missing evidence) that makes the situation seem more ambiguous.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 03:59 PM
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I don't have a problem with polygamy as a lifestyle, but our family court system is set up with the core idea that there are two parties to a divorce or custody hearing. Adding a third party would lead to a huge legal morass as many decades of law has to be re-written or (more likely) re-interpreted by judges who know very little about the dynamics of polygamous relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 03:55 PM
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In that case, I guess if OP is not American then I suppose it could happen. But this story sounds a little too just-so.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 01:59 PM
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High school kids were drinking on an airplane?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 08:43 PM
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"He's my soulmate, we're in love" when the whole thing is (for outsiders) clearly one-sided and he just fuckzoned her. Isn't this the kind of thing RPers accuse of those men who have not swallowed the pill yet? Isn't that what the anger phase is, recognizing how your own hamstering hurt you in the past?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 03:26 PM
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She said "I will be thrilled," but you read it as complaining?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 03:19 PM
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Dick size shaming? It's an insult, not shaming, just like calling a guy a fag is an insult, not an actual commentary on their sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 08:57 PM
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Disneyfication which promotes romantic thinking) For every love-smitten Disney hero, there's a Han Solo.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 03:27 PM
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So you managed to conclude, based on 1 article, that men are the more emotional gender? Given how much anger there is TRP sub, it's not a big leap to think men are as emotional as women. They're just emotional in a different way.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 03:25 PM
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I'm 5'9" and dated lots of women in the 5' to 5'7" range. While I'm sure some of them would have preferred I be taller, I likewise would have preferred some of them have bigger tits. But it didn't become an obsession that diminished the fun we had together.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 02:46 PM
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I could say the same for women who are 5 feet tall but only want to date men over 6 feet. I would agree except that I've never met one of these women. Maybe there's an online forum where they congregate and bash men?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 02:35 PM
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Shaming a girl for cheating is not the same as shaming a girl for having a one night stand. Men get shamed for cheating too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/15 08:54 PM
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At a macro level, the economy itself is just a bunch of interacting markets. Most of us participate unconsciously in most markets. Ride a bike to work? Then you're unconsciously affecting the market for gasoline. If men refuse to marry, or women demand marriage before sex, then that affects the marriage rate. Cultural factors of course play a role, but that's true in most markets. A movie that opens well in New York may bomb in rural Alabama.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/15 05:40 PM
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the goal is always to make mone No it's not. The goal is to satisfy your desires. That's what advertising is for: to spark desire. On the seller side, money is medium of transaction, but it provides things like security and status. In a world where all food, sex and markers of status and love were freely provided, people wouldn't work. Money would have no use.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/15 05:36 PM
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. Can you give an example of a society that operated by barter economy? Barter markets have never really existed, apparently. Most societies were barter prior to the Roman Empire. And modern currency as we know it today didn't emerge until (if I remember correctly) the 1600s.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/15 05:32 PM
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But, biologically, male-female is a spectrum So is fashion, taste in movies, cars and a million other products, yet people buy and sell stuff in those markets with ease. Why is gender so special?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/15 05:30 PM
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If there is a sexual market place, it's the most complicated marketplace in the history of humanity. No it's not. Most people participate in the market unconsciously, and get some degree of satisfaction. The stock market is much more complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/15 05:25 PM
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Where? I grew up in rural Georgia and divorce was common even back in seventies when I was a kid. No one was shunned.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 05:46 AM
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I know one case, and their only child got fucked by it in terms of connections and opportunities My ex is Chinese. I know quite a few Chinese folks, both married and divorced, in both the US and in mainland China. In fact, her parents were divorced when we met. I never heard any talk that it was bad for the children in terms of connections.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 05:44 AM
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The trolley problem comes up all the time when I'm hanging out at Hooters.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 11:01 PM
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If she's an annoying bitch, then yeah I care what my friends think. But hotness is readily apparent to all guys with just a moment's glance, though taste may make one guy's 10 another guy's 8.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 09:05 PM
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Stop using the phrase "sexual strategy" like this. It's a term that applies to species, not individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 09:50 PM
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The more negative of way of saying this that you sometimes hear from women & feminists is "men have a fragile ego."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 09:48 PM
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vicariously experiencing the feeling And you wrote. Sympathy is the ability to share in a common feeling and share in the experience and say "Hey, I've been there too. I feel what you're going through." To me sympathy is just respecting that someone feels bad and perhaps giving them comfort or leeway.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/15 07:00 PM
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The topic is solipsism. Parent poster claimed a certain behavior is gynocentric. It's not. Ironically, he's the solipsistic one. Because he doesn't have direct experience with this behavior except as perhaps the cheated-on one, he blithely assumes only women behave that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/15 09:53 PM
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This 5'8" guy says all of his Tinder matches ask about height. 5'8" isn't even that short. I call bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/15 09:48 PM
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Did she cheat on her boyfriend? "I was drunk!" or "it just happened!". Come on, guys do the exact same thing. How many cheating men seriously own up to it unless their cornered?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/15 02:46 PM
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Well, it's partly because Reddit skews towards socially awkward STEM-loving males
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/15 02:43 PM
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I think this is a troll. I'm 5'9" and in 20 years of online dating I have never been asked about my height. I'm sure some women have turned me down because of height, but they never directly asked. Most women are shorter than 5'9" (and 5'8" too), so it's not an issue for me. If anything it's the other way around. I like dating girls who are smaller than me. I turn down girls who are my height or taller.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/15 02:42 PM
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Sounds like libertarianism.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/15 03:03 AM
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Madonna/whore is a guy thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/15 12:32 AM
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If he picks a fight the bouncers will throw him out and there's a good chance he'll go to jail. If he does that over and over the court will order him to go to alcohol counseling.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/15 03:36 PM
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Heh, reminds me of the time I peed in the trash instead of the toilet.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/15 03:33 PM
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Giving some rights to men necessitates taking some away from women. I don't really see it as giving and taking rights. More along the lines of clarifying the rights of each. Divorce reform is the most obvious example. Making them more equitable is not negating women's or men's rights, just making it more clear what the rules are instead of falling back on defaults.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/15 03:31 PM
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Marriage used to be about property. Ah the good old days.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 03:34 AM
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Accomplishments, not really. Brains & overall life experience, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 03:31 AM
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the sluttiest women are often the worst in bed Yeah, porn stars and escorts can't fuck worth a damn. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/15 08:18 PM
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Calling BS on this. You may feel this way, but I don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/15 08:17 PM
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One could ask the exact same question of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/15 08:15 PM
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Ask religious women. I think you'll get a different answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 08:19 PM
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First, I agree that single motherhood is not a good thing. However, the parent comment was that we are raising a generation of criminals. And you say: small amounts of crime dropping It's not small amounts. We're at a 45 year low. Crime in the US has not been this low since 1970, even though the rate of single motherhood has more than doubled during that same period.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 04:03 AM
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OP asked whether TRP is a "treatment" for "depression." Many people don't know the difference between feeling down vs. full blown depression, so I wanted to explain the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 07:37 PM
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There's even strong evidence that it's the decline of lead in the environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 06:15 PM
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No. Clinical depression is not just feeling sad or sorry for yourself. It's much, much worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 03:22 PM
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You raise a generation of criminals Crime has been falling steadily for 20 years, including among blacks.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/15 07:43 PM
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I liked this: But when she finds a sexual connection with a woman who backs away because of “emotional issues,” Rinaldi channels her inner alpha male: “I was drawn to her body but shrunk back when she expressed unfettered feeling. . . . It only took sleeping with one woman to help me understand the behavior of nearly every man I’d ever known.”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 04:24 PM
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You didn't answer the question. You take pride in your culture for the good parts. Do you also feel shame for the bad parts?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/15 02:56 PM
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I think having pride in one's culture is important, If you want the pride for something you didn't create, you have to accept the shame for the same thing. Are you American? Do you feel ashamed of American slavery? Note that in this context "I never owned slaves, so it's not my place to be ashamed" isn't an excuse. You've already admitted taking pride in something you had no role in creating. Not owning up to the shame for that same culture is just hamstering.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/15 09:59 PM
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The problem is that even the most accomplished black innovators aren't on the level of the most accomplished white scientists and innovators. But neither are you. Why are you taking pride in something you had nothing to do with?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/15 03:31 PM
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Well, when I fuck 5s and 6s out of necessity, it makes me kind of hate everyone and everything. And why do they fuck you? Are they just looking for sex or a relationship? RP theory is that women want a relationship with men at a higher level than they are. If you're not giving them that, then do they have a right to hate everyone and everything too?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 01:32 PM
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Hmm... Do you think this is a modern phenomenon because feminism, or have men always done this kind of thing? And if always, doesn't that suggest it's part of their nature?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/15 02:08 AM
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it's hickville. Which probably means football is even more high status because what else do people do on Friday night? I grew up in a hickville in the south and football was huge. The book/movie/tv show Friday Night Lights is all about. where in red pill doctrine are 14-18 year old men considered highly desirable to women? i Everyone goes for the best they can get. Teenage girls may love twenty-something celebrities, but they don't get to hook up with them. So the next best option is the local c…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/15 06:26 PM
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Fine, it's INCREASING. That doesn't mean you get to use out the bogus 50% stat to make your argument, especially sense the divorce rate has been DECREASING for the last 20 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/15 06:01 PM
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Demographics like how fewer and fewer men are going to college? Yes, again, why does YOUR argument matter? Are you one of those men? If not, then why do you assume your life is going to be the same as theirs? Your income probably won't be. Women are 33% more likely to receive a bachelors degree than men and that trend is INCREASING: And that matters to you personally how? If anything, it means you have more options because there's less competition. Your argument about college graduate pairings i…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/15 04:15 PM
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Why does it matter? Because demographics tell you a lot about likely outcomes vs. half-baked stats that people like to throw around. Would you say "why does that matter" if you were black and poor? There's a social price to pay for the more educated for getting divorced. No there's not. I'm divorced. Maybe if you're a member of a strong religious community. But since religiosity is generally stronger in the south, and divorce rates are higher there, I'm going to say no.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/15 07:21 AM
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Are you a college graduate? From your linked article: On the flip side, people with more education are more likely to marry now than ever before and often these marriages last longer. The 50% number has always been misunderstood - it includes people who marry and divorce multiple times. For college educated couples, more than 70% of marriages don't end in divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/15 04:30 AM
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I first heard about this when it was called LJBF - "let's just be friends." In my experience women only say this out of politeness. They don't mind your company, but they don't really want to spend a lot of time with you (though sometimes they have to because, say, you're in a class together). It doesn't make her a bad person, just polite. All the guy has to do is say no. He doesn't have to do so explicitly. Just stop spending more time on her than necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/15 02:58 AM
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A Dan Savage truism: settling down also means settling for. Everyone -- men and women -- compromises when committing to a monogamous relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 09:24 PM
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Ha ha now that I think about it I know a girl who did exactly this. She fell in love with a musician in her early twenties, they had a whirlwind romance and got married. But he never got his shit together and she left him after a couple of years.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 06:23 PM
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While a girl may sleep with good-looking, unemployed musician, Do most unemployed musicians stay that way forever? Or do they move on and find real work? Perhaps even because a girlfriend dumped him for lack of stability? Sometimes they even go to law school.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 06:22 PM
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sexual strategy is amoral. The term sexual strategy is incredibly misused by TRP. In evolutionary terms it refers to the species, not individuals. It's not about individual plans by people looking to reproduce; it's an emergent property.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 06:16 PM
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I would say at least 60% are in the "dating" /hookup scene That seems like a really high percentage.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 06:11 PM
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If you have one society that values intellect and being docile, and another that is a warrior culture, who do you think is going to be more brutish genetically? The Mongols were brutal and very successful warriors. Would you say they're more warlike now than, say, the Germans?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 04:21 PM
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Poor whites were looked down upon. And yet they were willing to go to war to protect their way of life. My point is that when you're in the majority (white male), it's easy to look back on the 50s as a great time. Just ignore all the people for whom it was shitty.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 04:03 PM
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The antebellum south was great too if you happened to be white. Also, Germany in the thirties.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 08:59 PM
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Just look at dogs for a second, within dogs there are so many different breeds, with each breed being good at certain roles, some more intelligent then others, some more athletic than others. This is all generally accepted, now why is it that if a person dares to apply similar logic to humanity, he is deemed a racist? Dogs are selectively bred specifically based on their characteristics. Humans aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 08:56 PM
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The dude has undeniably sold a lot of books. If you listen to the podcast he doesn't endorse the asshole approach. He says that even in the stories that made him famous, the girls who go for him are rare compared to the ones who say "no thanks."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 03:26 AM
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Again, would you warn your kids of the risks of driving or the consequences?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 05:15 AM
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Would you call "dying in a car accident" a consequence of driving a car, or a risk?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 05:09 AM
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Those are risks, not inevitable consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 05:05 AM
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Women are more likely to regret past sex acts. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23179233
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 11:15 PM
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Are you referring to Chapter 3: Power in Vulnerability? The one where we makes a strong distinction between vulnerability and weakness? The one where he also talks about social vulnerability?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 09:56 PM
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That's what an ESTJ would say.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 09:48 PM
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He also says that approaching a woman and flirting is itself a form of vulnerability. Do you really think that's the same thing as just being emotional? His use of vulnerability is more akin to Brene Brown's.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 06:54 PM
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Do women even have defined ranks in this thing? This is a very good, underrated point. I think ranking is a masculine instinct. Be it the HB scale, sports championships, top 10 lists or Academy Awards, it's almost always a man who came up with the system. Men will spend hours online arguing Tom Brady vs. Peyton Manning vs. Joe Montana etc etc etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 06:46 PM
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I'm pretty much the same. I think TRP is reasonably good for understanding how masculine and feminine intertwine, but also that there is a ton of variation among both men and women and that masculine/feminine is not the exact same thing as male/female. Also, I think TRP is hella judgemental. Self-righteous anger feels good in the short term but is very limiting over the long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 06:42 PM
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In the book "Model", Mark Manson advises guys to open up to women emotionally. He says to be vulnerable, not emotional. There's a difference. Here's vulnerable: I'm an alcoholic. It sucks, but it is what it is. Here's emotional: I'm an alcoholic because I'm a loser and no one will ever love me nor should they blah blah blah me me me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 06:37 PM
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Opening up is part of where connection and comfort come from, which goes back to the Mystery Method.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 06:35 PM
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This is nonsense. It's fine to be emotional. What's not good is being needy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 06:35 PM
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"You being sad about something else makes me feel like I'm not a good girlfriend." How did you respond to this? Did you get defensive?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 06:33 PM
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The Mystery Method version of this is connection and comfort. Being vulnerable creates a safe space.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 06:31 PM
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What's funny is porn stars like Julia Ann and Janine. When they were at their hottest, the only did lesbian porn and charged top dollar for it. Now that they've had a couple kids and gone from 10s to 7s, they are crazy freaky.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 02:49 PM
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I hooked up with a gal last night who's in an open relationship. Her husband asked for it because her sex drive was too insatiable. Even after having two kids (one of which is still only 18 months old). NAWALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 04:53 AM
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I think a more relevant question is how long does a session last? I can and have masturbated for longer than an hour without climaxing. If you do that for many years, it starts to have an effect on your ability to climax with a girl. I was always able to last a long time sexually, but in the last 10+ years it's gotten so I only get off maybe 25% of the time. Going without porn helps raise the ratio, but I only do that when I'm in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 09:59 PM
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Things have changed, but you might want to check out My Secret Garden, which was published in the seventies. It's a collect of women's fantasies. In the foreword the author talks about how much flack she got from feminists. She identifies as a feminist, but had this to say in an interview: The original feminists were never in favor of heterosexual sex. It just wasn't on the agenda. In the Ms. magazine school of feminism, it's still not on the agenda. It's a man-hating, beauty-hating, sex-hating …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 06:36 PM
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the progressive women in my life are also the women that are least likely to engage in one night stands. Many of the conservative women that I know have slept around and can't maintain a relationship. So the progressive women act conservatively, and the conservative women act in a more liberal manner? And my guess is the progressive women would that advocate sleeping around is fine? Why would they advocate one thing and do something else?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 04:44 PM
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That kind of proves my point. The anonymous online forum exists because guys don't feel comfortable bringing up with their friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 04:42 PM
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if I'm sleeping with you, we are dating and exclusive. Do you tell him that before you sleep with him? Has any guy ever said "no thanks" to exclusivity if that's the price of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 11:44 PM
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That women like confident, dominant men... I was not aware how important these things were until I was in my thirties. I'd gotten by with my looks and just being naturally confident in my work (but terrible at escalating things with women). I assumed that the smart girls I wanted would never go for cocky guys. (And I know there's a fine line between cocky and arrogant, but to me it was alway obvious when a guy was full of shit. I was mystified when women couldn't see through that.)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 06:58 PM
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I'm pretty sure that guys have been strategizing about how to get laid since forever. Yeah, but it's less common to talk about once in a relationship. I think part of it is cultural. A guy can complain about his girlfriend being a nag or what-have-you, but it's much less common in my experience to admit your sex life has dried up and ask for advice on how to rekindle it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 06:56 PM
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I disagree with this. Courtesy scores major points in my experience, especially with younger women who don't get that as much from guys their own age. And this is one part of feminism which makes sense anyways, I mean if girls are equals, they can open doors for themselves. Most women are not feminists and love to feel taken care of.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 06:48 PM
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I'll try anything once, sometimes twice. I made out with a pre-OP M2F last summer. She was only 22 and must have been on hormones since before puberty, because you never would have guessed by looking at her. She was really quite hot, very feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 06:40 PM
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dozens Dozens? There are a few different approaches but only a few in my experience. They market differently but when you talk to the practitioners most of their strategies are pretty similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/15 04:45 PM
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I don't see how securing your genetic lineage and learning algebra are related. They're both modern concepts that were unknown to prehistoric, pre-agricultural man. Edit: Consider that if men are so concerned about genetic lineage, why do so many fathers abandon their children at the drop of a hat? Even intact families will admit that in the first year it's mostly the mom who does everything. The male doesn't really get engaged until the child is a couple years old. And even during pregnancy wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/15 07:24 AM
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Status is currency. It's just not as easily measured as money.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/15 12:50 AM
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TRP endorsed users and high alphas have absolutely nothing to gain from writing all of the guides and theory. Most cults are led by people with feet of clay. The validation of people endorsing you as an alpha is quite a strong reward in itself. If I wrote a bunch of horseshit but people worshipped me for it, I'd keep doing it. See L Ron Hubbard. Or Joseph Smith for that matter. Others beside TPR advance the interests of men and masculinity. David Deida comes to mind. Having attended one of his m…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/15 12:46 AM
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I'm fine with it conceptually, and never having been the jealous type I think I would actually be pretty good at it. But I think most people are not very good at it, so each person who enters the relationship substantially raises the risk of failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/15 12:40 AM
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The number of people with gut bacteria that severely alters normal metabolic rates is exceptionally low. We don't know that. There's very little we know about gut bacteria (or all the other bacteria for that matter). All we know is that some people have an easier time maintaining their weight than others.. Consider that for a long time ulcers were thought to be from stress. We "knew" it in the same we "knew" that cholesterol was bad for you (oops, not so bad as it turns out). Then someone discov…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/15 12:39 AM
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"sexual strategy is amoral" "Sexual strategy" is grossly mischaracterized by TRP. The evo-bio use of sexual strategy refers to the strategy of an entire species, not individuals looking to get laid. Unless you're a hermit, it's impossible to live in society without participating in a moral framework. Thus everything you do can be characterized as morally positive, negative or neutral. Manipulation is not amoral. (Yes I know everyone manipulates to some degree, but that doesn't negate the moral f…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 11:03 PM
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As I pointed out elsewhere, it's meaningless in terms of giving someone actual useful information. You can say "calories in calories out" but that has nothing to do with things that affect behavior like willpower, the effects of simple carbs vs complex, whether your parents serve you nutritious meals or crap (and the temptation that comes in that environment), or even how aspartame affects hunger. Or in the case of the linked article, what gut bacteria you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 10:53 PM
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The ones I knew as a kid grew up to be losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 10:46 PM
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Fine, you can fight back. The point is that it's not instinctual to not LTR a slut. It's a cognitive decision. Algebra isn't instinctual either, but no one's arguing that doing it is some deep genetic truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 10:46 PM
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He would have no ground to stand on either. So what? He'd still beat the shit out of you. You're conflating moral codes with instincts. In the past "might makes right" was a much more powerful force than "truth & justice." To be clear, I don't believe monogamy is a strong instinct in men either. I just don't pretend my preferences are deeply hardwired.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 05:10 PM
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It seems to me that TRP is all about convincing men that they no longer have to fight against or feel ashamed of their natural inclinations. I agree with that. My only beef is that some "natural" inclinations are cultural, not genetic. It wasn't long ago that the vast majority of people thought interracial sex was disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 04:06 PM
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Very little risk for a man in that situation. So shotgun weddings are a myth? If your daughter got knocked up, even if she was a slut, would you let some guy get away with that? Seems risky to me. There's no way you'll convince me that refusing to LTR a slut is genetic. I don't have a problem with you deciding you don't want a relationships with someone like that, but don't pretend it's any more instinctual than going to school. It's a cultural trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 04:05 PM
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natural inclinations. The Catholic church and other institutions have been shaming promiscuity for a couple thousand years. I really doubt the last 40 have overturned all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 03:52 PM
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Late 40s. Married & divorced. No children but we tried. Never been cheated on. Most women I've been with have gone on to have children with other guys and as far as I can tell they seem like decent parents. I've only been with one who I would classify as "crazy," but she actually was not promiscuous at all. Married most of her adult life until she got divorced (her husband asked for it) the year before we dated. She has Aspberger's and had an abusive childhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 03:51 PM
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Late 40s. Married & divorced. No children but we tried. Never been cheated on. Most women I've been with have gone on to have children with other guys and as far as I can tell they seem like decent parents. I've only been with one who I would classify as "crazy," but she actually was not promiscuous at all. Married most of her adult life until she got divorced (her husband asked for it) the year before we dated. She has Aspberger's and had an abusive childhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 03:50 PM
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I wish I was young. I'm probably twice your age. I've dated a lot of women over the years and have never found promiscuity to be a red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 06:21 AM
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men have a natural aversion It's not natural. It's cognitive. Otherwise RP wouldn't spend so much time trying to prove you shouldn't LTR them. If it were natural, no one would even think about it because it would be as instinctual as getting a boner when you see a porn flick. BTW I don't have a problem with you having rules like this in terms of deciding what you want in an LTR. You have every right to decide what cultural norms matter to you. I just disagree with RP's stance that this is a biot…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 06:16 AM
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. So you're saying THIS is possible because it's "woman's intuition" but it's impossible for men to have a "funny feeling" about taking care of a promiscuous woman and her child? Dude, you realize you're contradicting RP theory? Guys will fuck anything that moves. Instinctually. Deciding whether to trust someone enough to have an LTR is a completely different process. If the funny feeling is so powerful, then why do so many RP guys fuck sluts? Shouldn't that funny feeling wilt their boner? It de…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 03:06 AM
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Do you really think that, if not taught by the culture, people would instinctually know that sex leads to babies? We don't know how to instinctually create fire, but it's damn necessary for survival. I do think that women instinctually are careful about who they mate with, but absent being taught by the culture, they would just say it's a funny feeling they get. They couldn't tell you it's because of the risk of childbirth.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 12:40 AM
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Your link doesn't say anything about women being bitter or entitled. Furthermore, it says women's happiness doesn't decline below men's until they hit 60. Instead of blaming it on the wall, I'd guess it has more to do with menopause and hormone depletion.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 12:21 AM
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Then why do you insist that women must be unhappy when they hit the wall, when even your own links don't support that?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 12:18 AM
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Right, which is only about 12,000 years ago, which is not long at all on evolutionary time scales. Consider that lactose intolerance is still widespread. That didn't matter much until the development of agriculture. So it's a real stretch to say that aversion to sluttery is genetic vs cultural.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 12:17 AM
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Maybe. People commit suicide all the time, but not all of them get articles written about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 11:29 PM
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Where in that article does it say they're bitter? I get that they may be sad, but that's different from "bitter and entitled," which is what the OP posits. Even in your second study it says men are generally less happy than women until the age of 60. 60! Is your strategy to tough it out until you reach 60, then rejoice in how much happier you are than women the same age?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 11:12 PM
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So hypothetically we could do the same with the words of post-wall women? Cool. Do you have conclusive evidence that so-called post-wall women are bitter and entitled? Like is there a survey or something about this? I've dated tons of women over 35 and can't think of a single time I've seen one act bitter or entitled.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 11:07 PM
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So that's just basically saying it's because he's a "low tier" man so people don't give a shit. It's not that they don't give a shit about the guy, they're just more shocked by the girl based on outward appearances. Robin Williams' suicide was the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 10:12 PM
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Sure you can. Just count hate words.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 10:10 PM
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I think you're reading into a jealousy that really isn't there. Then why use such negative language about hitting the wall? He could just say "women get older and less attractive and have a harder time attracting a mate." Instead he says they become bitter and entitled. That sounds like schadenfruede to me. Which begs the question of why he feels good about seeing someone else suffer?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 08:32 PM
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This part is not even pseudoscience: After 30 they start to age, become less attractive, become more bitter, and generally, get fat and entitled. How do you prove women are generally bitter and entitled? At least you can measure someone's weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 08:29 PM
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OP is saying women are "incapable" of empathizing and implies that his beliefs are natural. There are lots of racists who are disgusted with the notion of interracial marriage. Should women empathize with them too?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 08:20 PM
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we all just hate inferior men no? I wouldn't say that. We're not attracted to them but that's much different than hate. I suppose bullies hate them but bullies are generally not attractive either.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 08:16 PM
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Probably not equal amount of empathy, but that might be because men do it more often, so it's less shocking. Much like it's usually men who commit felonies. In the case of the woman it just seems more extreme. She's obviously pretty and at 30 still has plenty of things going for her. It's bizarre that she things she'll never attract a man. With the man the article is as much about his decision to document his last meal, which distracts a little from the core reasons he did it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 08:14 PM
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Do you understand the difference between instinct and cultural rules? Do you understand that sometimes people confuse the two? Do you understand that sometimes it helps to untangle those two things? Not just sexually. Think about the desire to be "true to yourself" vs "what's expected of me." Many people -- and I would include you in this -- unconsciously think that their perspective is "natural" when it's most likely the result of cultural upbringing. Or do you think Middle Eastern ideas about …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 07:18 PM
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I was aware that I was repulsed by a promiscuous women Would you still fuck her? Lots of terpers are happy to do that, but not LTR them. That's a cognitive process taught by the culture, not instinct.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 07:12 PM
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From the linked article: A familiar argument against a barrier is that thwarted jumpers will simply go elsewhere. In 1953, a bridge supervisor named Mervin Lewis rejected an early proposal for a barrier by saying it was preferable that suicides jump into the Bay than dive off a building “and maybe kill somebody else.” (It’s a public-safety issue.) Although this belief makes intuitive sense, it is demonstrably untrue. Dr. Seiden’s study, “Where Are They Now?,” published in 1978, followed up on fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 06:54 PM
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So you don't need to understand anything more than reproduction requires sex (which everyone is forced to understand just by living with other people and having a brain that can remember things) to have an emotional feeling about it. That's exactly my point. Knowing something cognitively does not necessarily imply instinct. Terpers who go on about having an aversion to wifing up a slut nonetheless have no problem fucking them as plates. Don't you think that if it were an instinct it might have a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 06:52 PM
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Relevant quote: A familiar argument against a barrier is that thwarted jumpers will simply go elsewhere. In 1953, a bridge supervisor named Mervin Lewis rejected an early proposal for a barrier by saying it was preferable that suicides jump into the Bay than dive off a building “and maybe kill somebody else.” (It’s a public-safety issue.) Although this belief makes intuitive sense, it is demonstrably untrue. Dr. Seiden’s study, “Where Are They Now?,” published in 1978, followed up on five hundre…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 06:46 PM
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Ethics can also be developed to justify pre existing instincts. Ethics are only necessary to mediate between conflicting instincts, typically selfishness vs empathy. That's why the concept of a moral dilemma is so useful for understanding them. If there's not conflict, then there's no reason for a moral code. Example: humans need water to survive. To drink water when thirsty is a powerful instinct. No one argues whether it's moral to drink a glass of water. But... we do argue whether it's moral …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 06:42 PM
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So it's okay for passive dread to exist and be grossly unequal? There's nothing wrong with calling it out and asking your partner to behave in a way that's respectful to you. But I don't see the benefit of passive-aggressive tit-for-tat.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 06:36 PM
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Are you serious?! http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/explainer/2013/01/when_did_humans_realize_sex_makes_babies_evolution_of_reproductive_consciousness.html Stop thinking in terms of things you learn growing up and start thinking in terms of base level instincts. An infant smiling at its mother mother when she smiles at him is an instinct that's been proven. Instinctive aversion to sluts is far from proven.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 06:31 PM
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if you're talking about in the context of a relationship, maybe Which shows that women are empathetic to their partners, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 05:52 PM
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Male preference for female chastity/non-promiscuity is directly related to the threat of having to expend resources and forgo reproductive opportunity. This hypothesis only makes sense in the context of group-sanctioned monogamy and owning property. Both are relatively recent phenomena dating from the last 10-20 thousand years. They are not an instinct but cultural rules that evolved to protect the group. Literally the only men I've ever met who were actually turned on by this sort of thing are …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 05:50 PM
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Read the linked article. It very specifically goes into this question: If someone wants to kill themselves they'll find another place. This has been proven to be false. Suicide is partly about opportunity. There is a critical period in which people with suicidal tendencies are more likely to act on them. But if the opportunities are not there, most people pass through that period and go on to lead normal lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 05:46 PM
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Which demonstrates how people easily ascribe really bad things to being part of the natural order.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 05:44 PM
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I'll wager that on any given day there are more three-ways involving reluctant wives & girlfriends than there are male feminists participating in protests.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 05:42 PM
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Also men have definitely been aware of the connection between sex and childbirth for quite some time. That is an outright falsehood. You need to educate yourself. The origin of the old testemant belief against masturbation was the misunderstanding that sperm was literally a seed that is planted in the woman (the woman is just the "soil"). So they were off on the biology but still understood the connection. Evolutionary time scales are hundreds of thousands of years. The period since the Old Test…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 05:40 PM
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No. Solid argumentation skills you've got there. Your hypothesis is based on resource provision. Consider: why are men so much more willing to have no strings attached sex? Shouldn't they be worried about having to provide for multiple potential offspring?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 05:28 PM
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Putting up a barrier doesn't prevent men from killing themselves, it prevents people jumping from the balcony This has been disproven. http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2003/10/13/jumpers And the article very explicitly called out the building, so of course people are going to comment on it. If the article about the woman had talked about the easy availability of sleeping pills or what have you, people would have commented on that as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 05:09 PM
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they used the poor fuck till he broke, and then where pissed that there mule died. Who are the "they" and how did they "use" him? Funny thing is, I know a guy who's superficially in a similar situation. He's a shorter-than-average Asian guy who writes for a popular publication. He even looks similar to this guy. But he can't make a living doing that so he also hustles in a regular job. Thing is, he does very well with women. Some of his writing is dating advice (though he's not RP).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 05:07 PM
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I think people should have the right to kill themselves. However, there's lots of evidence form unsuccessful suicides that, if they person can get through a critical period of 3-6 months, they usually don't try again. Further, one can argue that the desire for suicide when in the prime of life is a mental illness, and you usually can't think your way out of a broken brain. So therapeutic interventions are necessary. This New Yorker article explains it really well. Disclosure: I've been suicidal …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 05:02 PM
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Are we looking at the same two stories? All the comments I see express sadness for both of them. In the case of the guy there is also commentary about the safety of the restaurant he was at, but that's because the story focuses on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 04:58 PM
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with 'intent' being the end all be all of evil. Well, that's kind of how morality works. Or do you think killing someone else in self-defense is no different than first degree murder?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 04:55 PM
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Some examples of this are creating dating profiles, going out without your partner to bars and clubs, sending flowers to yourself “from an admirer”, purposely seeking to pull Indicators of Interest from the opposite sex in front of your partner and so on. Wtf? I've been dating for over 30 years and, except for going with friends without me (which I do the name), none of this has happened to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 04:54 PM
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Look at how many women participate in three-ways for their man.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 04:53 PM
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totally logical that men would develop an aversion towards providing for promiscuous women This hypothesis is very weak. You're conflating sex with childbirth. Humans have only been aware that these two things are even related for a very short time relative to evolutionary time scales. As a guy I've never had an issue with promiscuous women. I find it to be a turn-on to be with a girl who's had lots of sexual adventures. Am I broken?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 04:52 PM
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This is nonsensical. Which do you prefer: a woman in sweatpants or dressed up nice in makeup? Woman care more about a man acting confidently, than a man who has a reason to be confident. Owning a sensible sedan is more confident than owning a truck? And owning a truck means you're a wife beater?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 01:58 AM
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Because a charismatic, masculine guy is the exact same thing as "don't walk here - there are bombs"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 07:14 PM
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I think part of the challenge is that people who give that advice are usually giving to someone they know reasonable well, which means they see the full version. But when meeting a girl for the first time, a lot of guys get nervous and self-conscious, and so they shy away from showing their true selves, warts and all. A few years ago I started telling women I'm an alcoholic on the first date. Instead of hiding the worst parts of who I am, I led with it. Being open and vulnerable like that made w…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 05:51 PM
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it would be okay to simply up and leave the room without showing emotion in order to shut her down. This is fine as a way to keep emotions from getting out of control (which John Gottman calls flooding). But if you just use it as a stonewalling technique, the same problem will keep coming up. Some problems between couples are never completely resolved, but they do find ways to minimize the impact on the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 05:45 PM
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why would keeping it off be anything else? I don't know, but research shows it to be true. The phenomenon of yo-yo dieting is very common. The best argument I've seen is that willpower is a muscle. While you can sustain it for a short period, it's difficult to adjust it without following very specific practice patterns.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 05:41 PM
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So every alpha is ipso facto abusive? TRP goes on about how girls go for dominant, masculine guys. You seem to be saying that every dominant guy also likes to hit women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 05:38 PM
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I would not want to be with a woman who wouldn't let me do what I want. It sounds like a conflict of hobbies. Who said anything about letting you do what you want? She just said that if you have an unhappy partner, you probably won't be happy yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 05:51 AM
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She didn't say the women demand to be treated like princesses. In my experience it's fine to treat a woman really well just so long as you maintain boundaries. Though some women are more into romance than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 05:49 AM
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Cart before the horse. They don't fuck the guy because of the domestic abuse. It's generally only after they're in a relationship that the abuse comes out.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 05:32 AM
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I didn't read the whole thing, but on page 233 she mentions that some of her friends were crushed if the guy pushed things too far sexually. She's talking about teens, though, so I don't know what it means for women of legal age.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 05:29 AM
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This line of inquiry would be more interesting if you could link to someone actually calling him entitled. If you search Twitter for @ replies to him, the only negative sentiments are coming from RP types.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 05:17 AM
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It's easier to stop doing something altogether (smoking) than it is to just do something moderately. I'm an ex-smoker and ex-drinker. It's impossible for me do either one moderately. I think the same is true for people with eating disorders. Yet they have to learn moderation because you can't just not eat.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 04:38 PM
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Yeah, but I also drop it quickly. I hover around 190 +-5 Edit: I'm 5'9" but have a mesomorph body type.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 04:33 PM
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Most school shooters are white males, does that make white males more violent than black/Asian/Hispanic males? Are white males more capable of extreme cruelty than black/Asian/Hispanic males? Maybe. The point is that weapons more or less negate physical strength. So women can theoretically be just as deadly as men. And yet most shootings are done by men. Until we have a lot more women murdering men, I won't buy that women (on average) are as violent as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 01:12 AM
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If like attracts like would evil TRPers and evil manipulative women end up together? They're both manipulative, but in different ways. It's a lot easier to flash cleavage than alter your personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 08:52 PM
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RPers seem to have more of a distaste for that type of woman. Then why do they idolize guys like the OP describes?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 08:46 PM
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Women can be as violent as men, the difference is their lack of strength makes their violent behavior less worrisome Which is more likely to buy a lethal weapon and shoot up a school? It's not just absolute physical strength, but also the capacity for extreme cruelty.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 08:41 PM
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I grew up in the South, where obesity is the worst in the country, and has long been so.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 08:33 PM
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Dude, the topic is diets, not thermodynamics. No one is arguing about calories. What I'm arguing about is the value judgement that's placed on excess consumption of them. Edit: Oftentimes women gain weight when they start taking birth control. Which is more useful: lecture them about thermodynamics, or discuss diet and psychological issues that make it easier or harder to lose weight?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 08:29 PM
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Cleavage is titillating (heh). Dicks aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 11:00 PM
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Fat Shaming Week on Return of Kings - a site that's linked from /r/theredpill sidebar
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 07:06 PM
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Do you believe in free will? I don't. You used to be obese because of some combination of inputs, then one day for some reason you decided to get disciplined. What that day and not other days? Hadn't you heard obesity was bad for you? Hadn't you seen ads for health clubs, and seen books about dieting and so on? I think a lot more changed than your dedication, but it feels better to attribute that your "self" (which doesn't even really exist) than to the sum of inputs to that point in your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 01:56 AM
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"Look this short guy can date whoever he wants! Why can't you?" That actually wasn't my point. My point is that you seem obsessed with the idea that you're short. I'm shorter than average myself but really don't think about it much.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 01:52 AM
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I know Neil personally. He's dated lots of substantially taller women. Hi wife is a it taller than he is. She often wears heels so it's very noticeable.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 12:34 AM
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I'm speaking as if I have a competent (not complete) understanding of how energy is processed in a chemical reaction. Do you also understand the way bacteria -- which again outnumber the physical body 10 to 1 -- affect the way people behave? Or do you just think everyone who's overweight or make other bad choises are just lazy idiots who only need your awesome IQ to be awesome?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 12:31 AM
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people used to have physical jobs and food was not freely available in such huge quantities So people aren't lazy at all. They're just like their ancestors. Good for the people of /r/loseit, but I want to know where they are in 10 years. Dropping a lot of weight quickly is not that hard. Keeping it off is something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 12:20 AM
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This guy gets 90% of his calories from Big Macs and is not fat at all. He was featured in Super Size Me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 12:17 AM
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So getting a huge bucket of KFC is due to the mind control of a bacteria? It could be. As the linked articles demonstrate, bacteria do all kinds of things. Do you really think people just don't care about their health? Like, suddenly thirty years ago they just quit caring after thousands of years?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 12:14 AM
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I don't disagree. I just don't think it's as simple as "neener neener you're fat because you're lazy."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 12:11 AM
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in the words of a respected scientis LOL you're quoting a physicist about nutrition? You linked to a bad definition of calorie. Here's the scientifically accepted definition: The small calorie or gram calorie (symbol: cal) is the approximate amount of energy needed to raise the temperature of one gram of water by one degree Celsius at a pressure of one atmosphere.[1] And on this: Even if that undocumented silly statistic is true "Obese people often eat... even less, than their thinner counterpar…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 12:10 AM
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ancient science can explain why she got fat No it can't. Read the actual article. They monitored her diet very closely.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 11:57 PM
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So the gut bacteria makes them eat 3 times the amount I eat Maybe it does. Bacteria have strange effects on people. And other animals. Think about that second link for just a moment. Mice are generally scared to death of cats and run away. But this one little microbe makes them lose all fear of cats. It's not hard to imagine something similar happening in humans, especially when you consider that right at this moment, in your body, there are ten times as many bacterial cells as human cells. Our …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 11:56 PM
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Do you think everyone just suddenly got lazier? Are you willing to consider that other forces at work? And consider that in that same time the average IQ has gone up.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 11:49 PM
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I grew up in the rural south. Obesity rates have risen, but there were certainly plenty of fat people around in the seventies and eighties. I now live in one of the healthiest paces in the country (it usually tops the list for mid-sized cities), so I don't see it nearly as much as where I grew up.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 11:39 PM
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the human body is an exception to the law of conservation of mass and energy. Energy == calories, but different systems can process different types of energy better than others. Gasoline is an excellent, dense form of energy, but it would kill humans to consume it. Termites get tons of energy from cellulose, but you could eat thousands of calories of wood shavings and not gain an ounce because the human body can't process cellulose. Different foods are processed by the body in different ways. Fu…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 11:36 PM
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Read Good Calories, Bad Calories, especially these parts: The 'calories in, calories out' mantra is a myth 'A calorie is a calorie is a calorie' is a myth The 'just eat less and do more exercise to lose weight' message seems to be logical but is actually wrong and unhelpful Overweight and obese people often eat no more calories, or even less, than their thinner counterparts
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 11:30 PM
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Fecal transplants have been a godsend for others.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 11:27 PM
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Exactly. Modern science can't explain it. So when someone says something like "stop being a lazy cow and eat less and exercise more" they're basically just demonstrating themselves to be ignorant idiots. How would you feel if the exact diet and exercise that's worked for you for years suddenly stopped working? And not just a little bit - we're talking about adding 26% to her body weight in just two months despite careful oversight by researchers.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 11:12 PM
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It's not just about CI/CO. It's about how the body processes calories. Calories are a measure of energy. Not just in the human diet, but in all matter. Here's a simple example: Wood (cellulose) has calories. Termites, when they eat wood, consume calories, and that gives them energy to continue living. However, humans cannot digest cellulose. You could eat tens of thousands of calories in wood shavings and not put on an ounce. That's an extreme example, but it's easy to see that there's a continu…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 11:08 PM
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Who said anything about feminists? And btw how short are you? Neil Strauss is 5'6".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 11:02 PM
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I've been living on this planet long enough to know that it is not difficult for me to manage your my weight FTFY. I've lived on this planet long enough to know that public speaking is easy. I hardly had to practice at all. All those people who are scared of it are just lazy whining pussies.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 11:01 PM
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that they could easily change for the better. And yet the linked article gave you an example of someone for whom it was not easy at all had nothing to do with metabolism, and everything to do with gut bacteria. Tell me, how much control do you have over your gut bacteria? To what degree do you know that chronically overweight people don't have similar issues with their gut bacteria? While I think a lot of people could lose weight, I'm not convinced we have as much control over it was we like to …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 10:59 PM
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If it's so simple then why are researchers so perplexed?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 10:50 PM
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And in any case, Good Calories, Bad Calories makes a convincing argument that your point is weak to the point of being bad advice. I'm in better shape now than ever, and yet I also eat a lot too.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 08:33 PM
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It's a meaningless point. It's like saying "if you have money in the bank and it collects interest, you'll have more money in the bank." That's not very useful to someone who's money was stolen.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 08:30 PM
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Then why did she put on weight despite being on a strictly controlled diet, stricter than before when she was stable at 133 pounds for many years?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 08:26 PM
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Read the article. She was on a strictly supervised diet and had been stable at 133 for years. Then in just a few months she added 40 pounds. The "you" you refer to is not the self. It's the bacteria in the gut.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 08:25 PM
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How old are you now? I'm 46 and remember lots of obese people when I was 20.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 08:23 PM
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At the end of the day it comes down to calories in - calories burned. Read the article.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 08:23 PM
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Did you read the article? The woman did not make a change. In fact, she went on a strictly supervised diet. Nonetheless she went from 133 to 175 pounds in just a few months after years of stability. Did she magically become lazy?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 08:22 PM
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And few women are gonna be unenthused by the fact that he's a porn star level performer. Maybe from fellow performers. But everything I've read is that male porn actors have a difficult time getting relationships with "civilians" because it freaks most women out. When filming The Canyons, supposedly Lindsay Lohan had a hard time doing a (softcore) sex scene with James Deen because she was grossed out by working with a guy who's had sex with hundreds, perhaps over a thousand women. Then again Lin…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 04:41 PM
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Before the morality police pulls up let me just say that watching a video harms no one, your warped sense of outrage aside. I personally that simulated child porn should be made available to pedophiles. Can't find a link at the moment but ISTR that there was a study showing the pedophiles who have access to it are less likely to engage in predatory behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 04:37 PM
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If you're unable to differentiate between disliking a person and disliking the actions a person takes then you're not equipped to have these discussions with other adults. Yeah, but much of TRP's attitudes are not about "a" person. They are about all women because AWALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 04:34 PM
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She should take the energy she's exerting trying to destroy this guy's life and instead expend it in therapy. Even if she was raped, she's acting like a child and that's not a good strategy for getting what you want out of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 06:31 PM
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Women effect change using words rather than action. It's their mistaken assumption that they can shame alphas into compliance. Not that I disagree, but most of morality is based on shame, not just feminism. Think of the Catholic church.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 06:19 PM
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Whatever. I just know that when I was in high school in the early eighties, there were a ton of smart girls and it never occurred to me to think that the guys were somehow smarter on average. This was not some east coast feeder school for the Ivies (though a few of us did go to elite colleges). It was the rural south. Maybe if I'd gone to Andover or Choate I'd feel differently. Oh and when I was in high school the PSAT did not have a writing test.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 06:13 PM
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Well, first of all, this was before 1989, which is the date of the ruling you link to. Second, this was for high school, not college. We were admitted to the program starting in 9th grade, two years before most high school students took the SAT back then.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 05:17 AM
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To get into the honors program you had to score a certain level on an aptitude test. They never told us the score threshold but I'm assuming it was something like 90th percentile. To stay in it you had to maintain a certain GPA. My memory is that it was about 50/50 men & women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 05:07 AM
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even the best girls in the class started falling behind average boys, and that started becoming the real benchmark of intelligence. This was not my experience in the mid eighties. Maybe my (public, semi-rural) school was an outlier, but we had a lot of very smart women in the honors program and it extended to math. We had a very good math bowl team and the women pulled their weight. In fact, the best and toughest math teacher I ever had was a women. I don't know about college because I was a mus…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 12:06 AM
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I am a weak person who has been stepped on at his career This is a victim mentality. Do you really think people have it out for you? Or maybe they just weren't aware of your needs? It's really easy to view the world as good & evil. More often the truth is everyone is pursuing their self-interest and only dimly aware of what others want or need.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 08:59 PM
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No true Scotsman happens with RP too
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 11:03 PM
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Seems to me that if you're an asshole, you're more likely to get divorce raped, because it feels really good to stick it to an asshole. I'm divorced and it was so easy we didn't need lawyers. I know lots of other folks who've also had it relatively easy. I do know of two guys friends who had a much harder time. One really got screwed.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 09:56 PM
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If you wear rings, only wear them on the classic ring finger - none on thumb, index or middle. If you wear nail polish, use darker red, not bright read. Don't get tattoos.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 09:11 PM
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Male cats don't lick their offspring. Female cats do. In fact, most male cats try to kill their offspring. Female cats protect them. Same species, different behavior, all based on sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 09:05 PM
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The body says: it seems like as long as a woman has any evidence against her that's she's been any of those, she will FREAK out if you use it as ammunition If you'd said "this woman" or "some women" I'd have no argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/15 11:07 PM
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So one woman acts crazy, ergo AWALT. Got it. Have you ever tried calling an actual whore, a whore? Get back to us when you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/15 07:08 PM
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You have sex with a chick who looked jewish and only afterward find out she was half black, and she never said anything about being black How lucky you were to nonetheless figure out that she's hot enough to fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/15 05:17 PM
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I subscribe to the Atlantic and remember thinking similar things when that article came out. On the bright side for her, she got a $500,000 book deal out of it. (I think this is the book.) Supposedly she got a few marriage proposals too but there's no mention of a husband or SO in her bio.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/15 06:32 PM
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just hanging out in negligees In my marriage that was the one thing I would have liked more of. My ex never turned me down for sex and at times had a higher libido than I do. But while she was and is pretty, she never dressed in a sexy manner, which I requested from time to time. I don't mean showing a lot of cleavage. Just a tight pair of jeans once in a while would have been nice. She didn't think (or at least never said) it was sexist for me to ask that of her, she just never had a taste for …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/15 06:12 PM
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See my comment here. Yes, I'm sure he'd like to sell books, but his research is very rigorous. Athol Kay wants to sell books, too. Should RPers dismiss everything he says? He doesn't even do research.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/15 05:45 PM
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To me the real thing to suss out (and it's not easy) is how many past partners think he/she is an asshole/bitch? It's not something you can really ask directly, but if someone complains lots about multiple exes, that to me is a much bigger tell than the raw number. I'm generally on good terms with all my exes. Maybe not close friends, but it wouldn't freak either of us out to bump into one another at a party, and we'd probably have a good conversation. I've had dozens of sex partners and would n…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/15 02:42 AM
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FWIW the consultant she quotes touches on this on her own blog (it's at the bottom) Who’s doing a survey of the guys who are not sexually active and taking note of their self-esteem levels? Because that’s also a direct result of our casual sex culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/15 10:18 PM
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This post is from 2011. Here's a post that same consultant wrote just nine days ago. I don't think it directly disagrees with OP, but it's worth noting that the median numbers are much more closely aligned. For men the median number is three; for women it's two.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/15 10:00 PM
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I see you've really glossed over how actually dangerous sex can be. We can say "hey you can have safe sex" but that's not 100%, and you are taking that risk with every new partner, especially if you don't know them well and you are doing it with someone else who does the same thing. Concern troll much?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/15 07:49 PM
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Me too. that's the primary reason I'm purple. That and all the "man honorable, woman dishonorable" rhetoric. Most women I meet in real life are not feminists (despite living in a college town) and agree with broader RP ideas about the different goals of men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/15 07:45 PM
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The question is: when does he predict divorces? Before the wedding ceremony or 5-10 years into the marriage? His methodology is here. (pdf) These parts stand out to me: They also found that in their first study with 30 couples, they could “predict” the change in marital satisfaction almost perfectly with their physiological measures. “Time 2” was three years later than “Time 1.” The correlations were very high with Time-2 marital satisfaction (from the 70s to the 90s), controlling for Time-1 mar…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/15 07:43 PM
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So, not very good then =/ And TRP "truths" are better?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/15 07:37 PM
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What will a douchebag asshole who reads Heartiste do?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/15 07:35 PM
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What you'll find is that when a man is doing it it's pretty obvious abusive behavior, or at the very least a dick move. When a women is doing it it's ... normal. Oh come on. He says that both partners are responsible and that if you see one of these in either partner, it's toxic to the relationship. He never grants a pussy pass.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/15 07:35 PM
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This guy is writing books, his goal is to make money, not tell the truth. So you think all his research is just lies? His ability to predict divorce with 93.6% accuracy? Can anyone in the manosphere make credibly similar claims? He's not just a writer. He was a professor for many years, which is how he did research.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/15 03:08 AM
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