What Does Red Pill Think About Cuckolding?

HerculestheRed · 2014-08-26T22:44:27+00:00

You're in the wrong place. I don't want to assume you're a pussy but I will say this simply: the things I'm about to say are not to "flame" you or intended to hurt your feelings. It just is.

You're in the wrong place. There is nothing remotely Red Pill about being cuckolded willingly. If you get cuckolded without your consent, that was the girl's choice and it happened "to you." That is passive. It is your job to choose to get out of that relationship. This is active.

The Red Pill is about taking active measures to make your life happen on your terms, to the best of your ability. Things that happen to RP men can be reacted to in a way that is still on their terms. This is what we call maintaining frame.

The Red Pill is not true "in general." The Red Pill is true in theory and in practice. It can be applied on a situation by situation basis, not just "women in general." Adopting a RP mindset isn't about affecting all women. It's about affecting individual women within your own life.

Here's why you're in the wrong place. The Red Pill is for straight men seeking actual mating strategies based on biological needs and differences between straight men and women.

The Red Pill is not for convincing the man cuckolding you to suck his dick. From the way your post is worded you came here admitting that we are right "in general" or "they have some good ideas" but then you wanted us to validate the rationalization that you're -still- Red Pill even though you're getting cuckolded. Why do I think that? Your post gives the vibe of the male hamster. This is clearly happening to you but you're telling us you're choosing it all because you liked it.

Maybe you do like sucking a man's dick. Maybe you do get off on the humiliation aspect of having someone else fuck your girlfriend. This is not Red Pill.

The Red Pill is a straight man's strategy for optimizing his sexual game. We have talked in the past about how gay men or perhaps in your case, bi-guys, bring an interesting perspective on women as a whole but our strategy is not for you.

You are not asking about how to make your girl respect you more. Or how to raise your own self-esteem. Or how to take on a typically more masculine stature or traits.

You come here not asking us for anything we can help you with. The Red Pill is not just "haha lets get laid alot guys lol" strategy. It's a specific set of tools and strategies for straight men to take their biologically designed place in the masculine half of society.

Being cuckolded is beta. Choosing to be cuckolded means you have beta/BP tendencies. It makes her happy, etc. But regardless of your reasons, you're still being humiliated and that's what turns you on.

We can't help you rationalize that being the lesser man intentionally just to suck some dick doesn't make you less of a man.

We can't help you, swimteamlosangeles. This is not what the RP is for. Good luck finding the information you need on the subject, but it's just not something we can do.

You're in the wrong place. I hope that helps.

edit: a word

TheRealMewt · 2014-08-26T21:03:12+00:00

There is nothing remotely red pill about being cuckolded. However, if you absolutely have to indulge in fetishes where someone else gets to fuck your partner and not you, then you need to realize that this is your fetish and that you need to control it. This:

I get off on watching this guy with my gf and also participating sometimes which he lets me do occasionally

You cannot accept this. You participate whenever and however you damn well feel like or you stop it right there and then.

evenmoretiredoflibs · 2014-08-26T22:44:26+00:00

Someone here once tried to convince me that it wasn't about male homo-eroticism and that it reflected men which wanted to be alpha. But really it's pretty much hardcore on the male homoeroticism. Like - look at the covers of those videos - just black dicks.

If that's your thing, I think that's fine. It's a tough fetish for many relationships, but I'm under the impression that the relationships that can handle it tend to be fairly strong, if not the strongest kinds out there. Not to say the only way to have a strong relationship is via cuckolding...

That all being said - it's a fetish which isn't exactly in line with TRP, tho some cuckolding is where the male doms and just makes the women do whatever (including getting fucked by another guy). The other flavors being where the female doms and even humiliates the male husband/partner.

It's not going to be a conventional TRP relationship, but to be honest, cuckolding has to be as old as the evolutionary pressures which gave us TRP anyway. So, I'm sure it can work out if you are strong in your beliefs and 'TRP skills'. You will figure out when it's important to compromise and when it isn't.

jagrmeister721 · 2014-08-26T22:48:49+00:00

IMO, cuckold fantasy (getting off on getting cuckolded) is a disturbing phenomenon. It seems to emanate from a desire for shame; like the human emotional rewards cycle has became confused and in order to cope with trauma (related to shame), the body re-interprets the negative stimulus as positive. As a parallel, you'll note that women who are raped; some % of them seek out rough sex afterwards, and creepily enough, seek it out from men who resembled their rapists. The associative mind doesn't always get it right; when it gets it wrong, we have to correct it. Why do I say wrong? Many men who have this cuckold fetish find it inevitably destroys their relationship. See:

...Four months later, we break up, she tells me that [the cuckold fetish] repulsed her and it was the reason for our break-up. What I am getting at here, is that if you have these fantasies, SEEK PROFESSIONAL HELP. They are extremely destructive to relationships, and don't be deluded thinking that you will find someone who will "put up" with your [cuckold] fetish forever.

MagicGainbow · 2014-08-26T21:13:57+00:00

''cuckolding is bad when a guy is forced into it by a girl against his will (and I don't really understand how that works''

Threaten divorce rape.

sir_wankalot_here · 2014-08-26T23:00:11+00:00

Another guy paying to raise my bastard child makes perfect sense to me.

HerculestheRed · 2014-08-26T23:25:38+00:00

I'm going to spell this out as simply as I can. Awhile back there was a thread where a RPW spoke up about how her husband (I believe) used to willingly get his other plates to fuck other men. Why? Because he was so Alpha it was the only way he could get them off his ass.

That is letting someone else fuck your girl from an Alpha mindset. OP gives the impression he's either doing it because he likes the other man in a sexual situation (which means RP can't help him) or because the humiliation of his girlfriend with another man gets him off. Again, RP can't help him feel better about loving the humiliation.

If you come at it from an Alpha frame, someone else fucking your girl can be Alpha and RP strategy is useful for that. If you're coming at it from a place of weakness or enjoying humiliation, or if you're reveling in your gay side, RP can't help you there because Red Pill is not a tool designed to make men enjoy being humiliated or like men.

We have never been anti-gay or if a man enjoys being blue pill, but the Red Pill can not help you with those. Seek information elsewhere. This is not the place.

swimteamlosangeles · 2014-08-27T01:36:35+00:00

If it has become more popular, it may be because more guys have less options. This isn't a "woe is me." Just look around. It's very obvious who pulls the strings. It's very obvious who benefits. And it's very obvious that most men are powerless to do anything to stop it.

alisonstone · 2014-08-27T03:58:56+00:00

I don't know what there is to say. You get off on something that is statistically disadvantageous. It's analogous to a gambling addiction, junk food addiction, fetish for obese women, drug abuse, or self mutilation. A lot of people have issues like that and life goes on. Some of them are even happy.

But statistically speaking, you are severely handicapping yourself. You are lowering your social status among your peers (word eventually gets out, your wife, the other man, and the other man's wife/gf knows). There is a very high probability you will raise another man's child instead of your own. You set a bad example for your children who, statistically speaking, will most likely not be into cuckolding. You are less likely to have positive outcomes in life. Your offspring, if you have have any (maybe your wife will only have children with other men), are less likely to have positive outcomes in their lives. But a lot of people live below average lives. The world goes on.

I am not sure if cuckolding is becoming more popular. But chances are the Internet is the reason why you hear about it more often (regardless of whether it is becoming more popular or not). It's easy for people to spill stuff like this anonymously.

Drewchem0786 · 2014-08-27T14:22:57+00:00

And if it IS becoming more popular is it because guys are becoming more beta or more gay?<

IDK maybe that's it or maybe this generation (people under 35) have grown up in a world where porn is so readily available. They have sat back and watched random dudes with girls fucking that it has become part of the sexual stimulus for them. Previous generations did have porn but not to the extent this generation has had access to. Also a lot of that porn was Playboy type stuff with just a nude woman. I do know that being cuckolded is not Red Pill.

MagicGainbow · 2014-08-26T20:59:31+00:00

As a bull, it doesn't bother me if a woman sees me as a better mate than her husband (providing that she is openly cuckolding him) .

His inadequacy is his problem to deal with.

eccentricrealist · 2014-08-26T21:39:06+00:00

Seems more like mental illness to me.

I have seen some obscene fetishes out there but Cuck is up there with scat; I get how a human mind can be pushed to that and I think therapy is needed for those people.

chakravanti93 · 2014-08-26T21:12:41+00:00

How old is she?

20's - He doesn't know. Get in, get out without him finding out and you get a freebie.

30's - He probably knows and don't care. He's a bitch. "Man hoops" are just shit tests. Dgaf.

One guy wouldn't stop crying about his sick (Medical bed, moniters, etc) 5yo kid gonna die the whole while I fucked his wife. He was looking for sperm. Serious fucking emotional issues.

Most ~30+ have ~three kids, tubes tied, dgaf.

Humiliating him is the objective. Basic game rules apply. Give her tingles and fuck her, that's all that's required. He's a bitch and everything he says is a shit test.

His objective is to experience being a slut by living vicariously through her. He wants a show.

Title	What Does Red Pill Think About Cuckolding?
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