Why I have no problem with women's hypergamy.

FrostyGoingHisOwnWay · 2014-04-14T11:53:22+00:00

I have a very similar nihilistic view and tend to agree with the biological aspects, however there's a lot of undesirable traits in humans that are a result of biology which society generally tries to suppress for good reasons, for example we generally all agree that pedophiles cannot decide or help their impulses but that's to everyone's benefit that they control their "nature".

It's perfectly reasonable for someone to seek a partner who despite having some biological impulses can act with enough self control to negate them, people cannot help their innate desires but they can control how they choose to act on them, for most people that very act of self control is actually a good marker to judge character on. It's a biological function to eat when you feel hungry and some people keep stuffing their face with ice cream, but you wouldn't (i hope) excuse your partner for getting obese, if you're interested in any way of forming a LTR and investing time/effort into a relationship it's just smart to evaluate people on factors such as self control.

If you're just gaming women for as much sex as possible and genuinely aren't bothered about infidelity or qualities in females such as basic self control, then that's fine, it gives you a bigger playing field that's for sure, however there's possible repercussions for that, for starters I'd be wrapping that shit up tight.

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Dubba · 2014-04-14T12:58:08+00:00

I think your post falls short when you try and make women completely blameless for their hypergamy. Sure, it might be an impulse of the lower brain, but it still requires conscious decisioning and follow-through. I mean, you could apply this to anything. Is the paedophile not guilty if he molests children? Well, it was just an uncontrollable impulse! The murderer for murdering? You can't really make this argument on any logical basis.

So of course women are 'guilty' for their hypergamy, but nobody can blame them. Just the same as any man will try and obtain the most beautiful woman he can, most women will try and tie down the strongest and most lucrative alpha that they can. It's simply the responsibility of those high-value males to ensure that they're given a fair 'deal' for agreeing to marry down in monetary status.

Most of the 'whining' that you're talking about, OP, is because the many modern women expect to be able to 'tie down' that same alpha male in hypergamy after she's already given up her virginity and most beautiful years of her life to other men (often times, for free). Meanwhile, while she was riding the cock carousel, the 'alpha' she plans to tie down later in life was relatively wasting away his youth amassing wealth and status for her to claim later down the line. She comes to the deal with relatively nothing, wants everything, and gets upset and claims 'slut shaming' when people point out how her having 20+ sexual partners a year might not be attractive. That's the part people 'whine' about - and it isn't even really whining.

Edit: I should remark that /u/Xein made their comment before I changed my post. Before my post had a line that questioned whether or not any man could ever be safe from cheating, as OP implies. I don't think he can, since we've all heard of women cheating on 'alpha' men with relatively high value for men of 'different' value - such as the wife of a successful business-man cheating on him with the unemployed sensitive musician type. I would argue that prescribing one scale of 'value' to men and women needlessly oversimplifies how sexual value works. We're better than that TRP.

semigod__ · 2014-04-14T09:03:47+00:00

right. on a micro level it serves as motivation to "improve yourself" - IF you can improve yourself to be better than average.

and on a macro level? per definition, the majority has to be below average. what do you do with millions of bastards, millions of old (i.e. unwanted) women, and (from a criminal perspective the worst) millions of men who have no reason to adapt to societies rules, but have lots of incenctive to break them?

loner7 · 2014-04-14T12:21:14+00:00

You're rationalizing women acting on hypergamy by reducing it to only a biological incentive, the improvement of their genetic line. This is a feminist argument with a layer of feigned altruism.

What about all those women who seek out alphas yet fuck them over with the massive backing of the overwhelmingly pro feminist government and subsequently end up fucking up their lives and families? Are these good mothers? They acquired their superior males and gluttonously indulged in their offerings, yet they themselves are inferior females. It's a trend that shittier women are more hypergamous. Is that improving the human race?

Women engage in hypergamy first, foremost, and sometimes only to satisfy themselves and they have a voracious appetite for it and all too often they get what they want and it's lowering the quality of humans if anything.

Edit: also watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4UMyTnlaMY

Furbowl · 2014-04-14T12:31:37+00:00

Female hypergamy is what makes Game possible, after all, so men who are not (and will never be) in the top 5 percent of male social stars shouldn't feel bad. There are plenty of fish in the sea.

Women complain about Patriarchy, but the old system was just as unfair to men as it was to women. By forever wedding a man to one woman, her hypergamous needs forced him to work harder and harder, to support not only himself, but a large family as well. Men today can choose to get laid when they want, but only need to work as hard as they want to to support themselves.

cooltrip · 2014-04-14T12:58:31+00:00

The problem starts when she starts to laught at, make fun of, and attempt to make feel bad or suffer the non-Alpha she's rejected or dismissed. This meanness, though not being biologically necessary, is highly enjoyed by wymyn. So why should she deserve non-Alpha esteem and understanding? Why should she deserve non-Alpha friendship, if she did non-Alpha things unnecessary to do to a friend? If she wants non-Alpha's friendship, she should really deserve and be worthy of that non-Alpha friendship.

One of the things TRP is trying to heal is that disease of non-Alpha awarding their non-Alpha friendship to wymyn for free, no matter how little wymyn did to deserve that friendship.

hamstercide · 2014-04-14T13:00:59+00:00

Women following their cunts to whomever makes them more moist for one night is not a robust model for raising children in a family unit. There needs to be a reversal to pre-19th century mores.

rainbow-flare · 2014-04-14T13:12:55+00:00

As said in Words of Vantala: There is no such thing as "good", only things you like. There is no such thing as "bad", only things you dislike.

"Fairness" is just accepting some rule that you think will help you. It may give you advantage among equals, but you'll never have as much options as the person not accepting the rule has.

a_chill_bro · 2014-04-14T13:42:32+00:00

I love this post for a couple different reasons but the main one is this quote:

"The world just is, it has it's laws of nature, and that is it. You can either accept them, and work within them, or reject them, and continue to let them fuck you again and again."

I would even say the highest level of this mentality would be to not just accept and work within these laws but to exploit them as much as we can for the purposes of profit (financial and otherwise). I'm talking ruthless manipulation.

I don't know about y'all but I'm tired of being angry. I'm ready to tear it up and start pulling some fucking strings on some puppet master type shit.

cashmoney_x · 2014-04-14T09:29:58+00:00

I'm one of its many victims but I definitely agree. Monogamy is being unfairly forced upon them (and us) by culture.

redpillschool · 2014-04-14T13:31:14+00:00

No concern trolling.

Title	Why I have no problem with women's hypergamy.
Author	bitchdantkillmyvibe
Upvotes	39
Comments	16
Date	April 14, 2014 8:40 AM UTC (12 years ago)
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