I am just wondering is the average looking guy any better off than being hideous? on the red pill sub, the Tinder experiment, good looking guys get a lot of attention where as the ugly and the average guy have almost the same response rates. Thus the average joe have low SMV by default, you don't have to be hideous to have low SMV.

Which makes sense. What does the average guy and the hideous guy have in common? Neither of them is good looking