Hello trp, I have newly discovered this sub. I have been delt the hand of an ended marriage after 10 years. The sidebar is spot on about being too nice. That's me, just by nature. But I'm tired of the hurt and anguish that comes with it. I'm done being the nice guy. So I'm trying to get comfortable by going out and socializing. And so far I've chosen a bar that I like on Tues and Thurs, and will head down after work and sit at the bar and have a couple before going home. I've been able to start to become a familiar face to the bartender's and know them by name. The next step is to actually talk to a woman. First is figuring out how to approach or if one starts a convo, how to keep it going. I usually get 2-3 sentences out but they give those short responses or single answers and makes it hard to carry the convo myself. How do you keep it going and not come off creepy or needy?