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[–]sekerzitski points points points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Something is missing here, bud. Based on the info you provided my guess is frame.
Let's see:
This is the 4th out of the last 5 times we've had sex that you've told me to hurry up. Honestly at this point I feel as if your just offering duty sex and dont enjoy fucking me." - no, no frame here (should have stopped at "Nah, I'm done", no further verbiage needed)
to be honest at this point my feelings are hurt cause I feel as if she isnt into fucking me as of late. - is that right? You told a girl she hurt your feelings?
Then you went silent on her, but as soon as she sent you IDGAF text you respond out of the blue (no pun intended) with comforting shit where you declare once again she has the power to hurt your feelings, that you are dumb enough not to stfu and enlighten her with RP truths that are meant to be for you only, not her.
I shit you not you handled it fucked up bad. Not "I'm sorry, marry me" bad, but there is definitely no frame in the nearest distance - you'll have to walk a long road to find it with this girl no. When you don't know how to respond, don't respond.
Lack of frame and oneitis. Start reading. And bad sex ltr cannot be considered amazing by any scale, you are fooling yourself in the first place. Read.
[–]Bloo4M points points points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Any suggestions on what my next course of action is. I was thinking I just drop it and continue as nothing happened and I act like I am passed it. Just a whole "I said what I needed to say and it is what it is. What do you wanna do for dinner tonight?" Etc.. Going forward with sex tho, I figure I just quit initiating? Basically avoid sex if its gonna be bad sex so to say. Wait till she wants my dick, not vice versa.
[–]sekerzitski2 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Drop it together with this "I said what I needed to say and it is what it is. What do you wanna do for dinner tonight?". No need to explain yourself for the third time. And fuck asking her what does she fucking want. For dinner or for sex. If you want to go fast you go fast, f you want to go slow you go slow. I bet her dryness stems from your eagerness to adjust to her comments instead of doing what you fucking want. Your whole bedroom/morning story begs for gender swap. Frame.
[–]11NV0K3R5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Make this quick
Holy fucking shit lmfao.
If she wants it to be quick, give her my number I'll make that shit 30 secs tops.
This is like, the funniest, most hilarious form of an insult ever.
TL;DR I don't think she likes having sex with you bud. Do you like having sex? Why are you still in this ltr?
[–]FreshTits0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Maybe his foreplay game is weak.
I actually push for more foreplay. She doesnt like fingers in or near her pussy. She has actually stopped me mid foreplay and said "Did you wash your hands?"..real mood breaker. She doesnt touch my dick during foreplay unless I put her hand on it. She also never initiated oral. Our foreplay is usually me eating ALOT of pussy, making her cum, then sex.
[–]FreshTits0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You need this
[–]Bloo4M1 point 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Been reading a ton of TRP material. Even the books, Rationale Male, Models, NMMNG etc.. its frigging hard to break out of the mold of not falling back into losing my cool, getting angry, butthurt etc..
[–]Aaren_Augustine7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
MRP guy here.
"Ok, lets not make this a marathon"
LMR shit test you failed.
This is the 4th out of the last 5 times we've had sex that you've told me to hurry up. Honestly at this point I feel as if your just offering duty sex and dont enjoy fucking me."
Beta weakness.
I get up this morning, get ready for work and dont say a word to her.
Beta weakness. Temper tantrum.
I decide to just get up and sleep on the couch
Beta weakness. Pouting. Butthurtness.
"Its fine. My feelings were hurt but its useless to be butthurt about it. I'm smart enough to know that desire cant be negotiated or argued. It is or it isnt or it just becomes obligated compliance, which I detest."
Fail. DEERing. Beta weakness showing butt hurt feelings.
I'm at a high SMV, perhaps higher then hers.
Hell no it's not. Your lack of frame was easily toppled by a little girl.
I'll hang-out with her again but to be honest I dont feel comfortable with you being there or around her.
Failed comfort test.
I feel I scores a good female, been doing everything right, but she is just NOT delivering on fucking me, wanting to fuck me, or fucking me good.
Because, while you might look hot, you are acting like a weak beta bux. Head over to MRP. Just know, you actually will be held to a certain standard that requires you to do homework.
I'll def do that. Any chance of perhaps talking via PM?
[–]Aaren_Augustine2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Go for it.
[–]HookersAndBlow4ME 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link
You fucked up. Lesson learned just shut up and don't explain your feelings. The only thing that can salvage this (not that you should) is dread.
Damn, okay, lesson learned.. How do I proceed tho from here, like today and such. She hasnt text back just yet cause she is still sleeping. And I cant exactly just start the dread at this very moment. More then likely she is gonna text back exclaiming she does desire me and such, most likely say I'm a jerk etc.. Do I just do a "Hey, its cool. So what do you wanna do for dinner tonight?" Etc.. just play it like nothing happened?
[–]HookersAndBlow4ME 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
You got it, play it off like nothing happened. Don't ever mention it again is all you can do man, then in a couple days don't respond to her texts for a night (I assume you text every day, if not, go longer) like you're on a date or something, then watch her hamster spin.
We live together so its kind of hard to avoid her.
[–]HookersAndBlow4ME 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
No it isn't, just don't go home for an evening, go to the bar or on a tinder date for fucks sake she doesn't need to know where you are at every goddam minute of the day. You're "out" or "on a secret mission" when she starts bitching. Remember - give zero fucks. She is LUCKY to live with you, you're doing HER a favor by LETTING her live with you, right?
Wish it was that easy. I picked up and moved to her place about a year ago. Hours away from friends and family. Only winning hand I have is that she would be financially fucked if I left and be alone since she really has no friends or life. Before I came into the picture she was single for 6 years.
[–]HookersAndBlow4ME 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sounds awful.
Contradictory. With what you said in this response I can see why she isn't into you. Look at how you view her and her situation
Even last week, we meet her friend for drinks and her friend brings along another female
[–]dendsm111 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
You need a life outside of her and so does she. I think this may be at the core, she is your life?
Pretty much. Now that I moved away from where I'm from I have no friends or shit to do around here. I go to the gym, go to work, come home, take her out.
[–]chuckdacuck points points points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Hello, I'm Chuck and I am your friend!
Hey Chuck! Wanna get a beer?
[–]chuckdacuck1 point 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Beers on me, enjoy!
[–]dendsm111 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Been there bro. Get a life, said with your best interest.
[–]vorverk0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"How do I proceed" You can't, because you will fuck up eventually. You need to understand the whole dynamics, and it's gonna take a while, looking at where you are now.
[–]vorverk2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
My feelings were hurt
Why the fuck are you discussing your feelings with your LTR?!?!?! No chick will ever fuck an emotional dependant loser, let alone your girlfriend. You have a lot to learn. Go read sidebar, learn about dread, NMMNG, and mostly keeping your mouth shut. You are failing at basic TRP stuff.
[–]SovereignSoul762 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
How to proceed? Proceed as if she is your roommate. If she isn't into sex with you, someone else will be. Doesn't mean that you need to be vicious or nasty to her. She sounds like a nice gal. But people who don't want to fuck you have a term: friend. But wouldn't it be fun to get back out there and run some game?! Maybe fuck them, maybe don't. But you gotta mix it up, or your Oneitis is gonna spiral out of control. As others said, do NOT let her see you sweat (from this point on...you already kinda blew that one talking about your feelings). Ain't no thang, man.
The tough part is to accept that this is something YOU caused. Somehow, subtly, you lost your frame/edge over the course of 3 years. Like a stone being rounded off by a river. Just turn up the sociopath instinct from 0 to like a 3. Stop giving a shit, and watch the pussy deluge splooge ensue.
[–]Yashugan001 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is starting to approach an answer. If he's
A.buff,
B. Good looking,
C. Makes good Money.
Then he's on paper an Alpha-Bux.
So where does her laziness come from, why is she not putting up the effort to keep him.
It's either his 'game' then, but I doubt it, he's social and striking up conversation, or he's passing waaaaaaaaaaay too many comfort tests.
I think it's the later, he's taking her out, she's moving the bar of effort/work required to stay in the relationship and there's no response from him (4-5th starfish sex, and let's get this over with)
One of the things I learned early on in here is that there's a certain amount of unreliability required for attraction to form. This is because:
You're doing you and don't care about her (narcist/asshole) She's running after you to keep you interested.
She can't 'control' you easily, you're not easy to 'manage', which makes you more interesting to her. Nothing is worth less than beta attention, because that which comes free must therefore have no value.
Reliability is a desire killer, she has to 'miss you' first, so she can realize it.
So, she knows exactly where she is with you without having to put any effort in. She's taking you for granted at this point. You're a high SMV man and her currency is devaluing but she doesn't realize.
Be more selfish, do things for you. Dissapear from time to time, don't DEER, TELL her what you want, don't ask for it, TELL her, she's looking for leadership, not comfort.
[–]uwotm8911 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Don't say it's cool, and don't ask her what she wants to do for dinner. You need to LEAD rather follow. After she texts you back, respond with a statement of what YOU are doing for dinner. I get where you're coming from because I've done similar things in past relationships. Kill the ego and develop your outcome independence. Otherwise, this relationship will most likely become very toxic.
[–]joedevice1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
All you said here is "You've managed to upset me. There's nothing I can do about it." ....
[–]Wallace68LeMay1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Buttslam then go no contact for 4-6 weeks
Haha, kinda hard..we live together.
[–]anddennn 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Stop doing that.
[–]sekerzitski3 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Make yourself scarce. Game other girls. Doesn't need to be in front of her, this is for you. You have nothing to lose, only to gain.
[–]Wallace68LeMay0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Somebody needs to move out
[–]verify_account1 point 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
You failed the biggest test of them all. Conformity breeds contempt
[–]burritohead points points points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
The relationship as you know it has been over for some time. I have been in this EXACT situation and can say there is nothing left for you here.
She is desperately trying to give your freedom back to you, and your ego is too thick to receive it.
Leave her BETTER than she was when you found her.
Hit the gym and date new women.
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