Maybe im not manly enough, ive done it many times in my lifes but i still feel bad doing it. Always pushed myself to do it, it never became any easier. Most women wont ask you first, they have weird secret belief that they need to play uninterested and cold if they want to interest a man or otherwise he will see her as easy. Oh. It makes totally no sense because if man will be too eager then he will be called desperate so its totally the same thing on our side, but still we have to be the ones, always, who make the first step, or even first stepS.

Apart from that there are things like "he must have good job" "he must have well defined body" "he should have his own place".

The number of women in my age who were living with parents (and so did I) were shockingly dissapointed when they discovered that I dont have my own place. This made me understand that I need to completely give up on dating before i get my own place (and if possibly then good job, car, body, etc) but women don't have to give up on it. They can just find a man who has his own place.

And if you assume she had well defined body then thats wrong assumption. Well built manly body with a lot of muscles is becoming a normalized thing. But try to find a woman with such body that will date you, its much harder than for them is to find a man who lifts.

I feel like all these things that women require from us (and they require more as years pass) are kind of validating them? Like we all try so hard just to get above competition and get a girlfriend that we set higher requirement bars for our other male friends, which in return do their best to also get ahead of competition, which hits us back and sets the average requirement bar even higher.

(I lift and somehow get a girlfriend there and there, but the amount of rudeness and rejection I had to face just because I dont have something that someone else has.... My God.. And It's not about things like look, more about things related to money).

Althrough I didnt specify question, my question would be how to not get depressed when dating, no matter if I have a plate or fuckfriend or girlfriend as a back up, its always a sadness if im dating someone new)