Learn red pill game, or MGTOW?

alpha_male_number_1 · 2017-11-13T05:46:18+00:00

There is no red pill game. If you think the red pill is complicated, I honestly don't expect too much from you. It's hard to implement. It's easy to fucking understand.

mrbonsoir · 2017-11-13T05:53:58+00:00

How old are you ?

If you are sub 22 then I don’t blame you for going MGTOW or what I think the better alternative is.....

Build a great social life.

A lot of the angst caused by not fucking is caused by idle time to sit and think about it.

It’s ok if this social life has girls in it but just don’t become a beta orbiter. She’s either one of the dudes or just a passing members that you can use to talk better to women.

This way you get girls who can connect you to other girls and spread the word around once you look ready.

JukeLuke · 2017-11-13T05:55:17+00:00

Should I even bother learning red pill game or should I MGTOW?

Learn red pill game/lifestyle. Ive been studying TRP for a good 2 years and its been life-changing. Even though it might seem weird but girls can contribute to your life and improve it (other than just sex).

I was fortunate enough to have a very Red Pilled father, with a wife that often supported him and his views (except when my mom starts talking about me and girls, stuff like "dont have sex till you're married" etc). Therefore, when I went headfirst into TRP, i didn't have an angry phase initially. It was around 1 month later, where I was really angry at every girl I saw. Little stuff annoyed me, like when a girl would try to cut me in line, I would literally say "the fuck are you doing". Started bumping into them, not getting out of the way on the sidewalk, etc. It was all because I read how the world spoon feeds women everyday and its getting worse (Boy scouts accepting girls one example, thank god clinton didnt become president).

Then, it all went away (around 2months of angry). I understood how the world works and I accepted it. I learned that I either had to adapt or shield myself away from everything (MGTOW). I chose to adapt. Now I feel I have an advantage over everyone else. Everyone in unhappy relationships, everyone that cant pull girls, everyone that doesnt have motivation to go to the gym, etc. I have also learned psychology along the way (not the bullshit college class, but actual psychology and how different words can change entire conversations even if they mean the same thing)

I'm around lower middle value in the market.

Not really sure what you mean. You say you got money, a car, work out, and attractive enough that girls dont turn away. Not seeing the problem here. To be honest, under those circumstances I would say Im a pretty good value in the market. Maybe you believe that living with you dad, or part time student, or part time worker is a problem. Guess what I do when I am in a problem that is socially frowned upon? I take it and own up to it. Make it a positive. No joke, I was at a NYE party last year and this girl desperately wanted to fuck me. But my parents were staying at my hotel room (im 20 still in college btw). I literally tell the girl "yeah you can see my room, but you would have to meet my parents as well", which lead to her laughing her head off and make out with me again. My solution that night? Fucked her in the hotels public bathroom. What girls care is that you dont give a fuck about your problems, you own up to them. Yeah you can say that you live with your dad for financial reasons but that dries her pussy up instantly (aka ur answer was boring), instead u say something about how awesome it is to live in with you parents (ex: "me and my dad throw crazy parties every weekend" etc even if the shit isnt true, its atleast exciting)

And also having an extreme case of oneitis or something similar, where I feel if I just have sex with some hot girls I'll never find my "soulmate"

yeah your "soulmate" is probably sucking dick around 4-5 times a week. Get used to it. There is no such thing as a soulmate. There are no special girls. Every girl farts, shits, and does all other shit. The girl you think is a 10, is a 5 to someone else. The girl you are "head-over heels" with, has a guy that hates everything she does. So to be honest, quit chasing a dream of meeting your soulmate and meet/fuck as many girls as possible to find the one that best suits you.

My second question: When a relationship "just happens" for people, is it because they're just already high value enough that they can stumble untryingly into a relationship, and is that blue pill?

Not really sure what you are trying to say here but id contribute. This is the fundamentals of male and female interactions in the present day: Females control sex. They are the ones that decide if they want to fuck you or not. They control the pussy. If you are attractive enough and adds value to her, she will reward you will sex (very basic way of thinking of it). On the other hand, Males are the ones that control relationships. You are basically giving up 10s if not 100s of available women (and potential plates) for one girl (one pussy). You are giving her your commitment and time. If she is attractive enough and adds value to you, you will reward her with commitment and safety (very basic way of thinking of it).

And for more average guys like me, have to work hard and learn game to get women?

To be honest, learning game only helps with ONS, and sometimes not even game can help you. TRP is not a place focus on game and pick up lines (yes that might get you laid, here and there but thats more PUA material). TRP is about improving and enriching your life so much that girls are naturally drawn into you and want to come along for the ride. No game or pick up lines are necessary when you have an interesting life. Take for example: Dan Bilzerian. Do you think this guy spends hours online thinking of the best pickup line to say at a specific moment? Hell no, the dude works out like a horse, gambles, shoots guns, flies to various different exotic countries, meets various famous people, etc. Wouldnt you want to be a part of that as well? Thats why hot women flock to him. They know he fucks girls on the regular. They just want a piece of what it is like. I bet Dan literally says: "take off your clothes" to girls he just met and they do it. No gaming required.

Being devil's advocate here, sure learning game will improve your success with women greatly. You can have an interesting life and look like a million dollars but if your awkward and cant show it/talk about it, that wont help you. Its a great combination of both.

is to take a few years out in the wasteland and build value, possibly even wait until I'm in a salaried career position, and until then just making approaches here and there to keep the rust off. Mainly because I just don't have the time between my one college class, the gym and my job.

No start now. You have free time. You had enough free time to post this question here. No excuses. (watch this: https://youtu.be/007QcKxgMmk). If you start waiting for a salaried career position, you will then think of another excuse once you accomplished that. I do recommend, while you are in the angry stage to maybe go into monk mode. But for a max of 6 months to a year. I would even say a year is a stretch. With monk mode, yes you mainly focus on yourself and learning TRP but that doesnt mean you dont go out and try what you learned. Monk mode, although a great way to focus on yourself, also includes going out and talking to women.

So I don't have the time or money for pursuing.

Maybe you dont. But actually you do. Since you have a job/go to school/go to the gym, you are outside. Talk to the girl on the walk to your college class. Ask for her number. Try out things you learned in TRP. Dont be afraid to mess up. Mess up? find another girl on the walk. Dont be afraid to try new things. At your job, especially if its retail, can help you immensely. Talking to everyone, improves your communication skills (and gives off an aurora that you are the cool social guy). The more you try, the more you will be able to improve. Understand that every mistake you make, you learn so much. "Those who keep winning, learn nothing. But those who keep losing, learn greatly" You learn nothing from winning, only from losing.

GreatMenderTeapill · 2017-11-13T05:45:09+00:00

Mediocre pussy is better than none pussy.

oldredder · 2017-11-13T14:43:59+00:00

MGTOW includes all redpill strategy

Title	Learn red pill game, or MGTOW?
Author	cobaltblueguitar
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Date	November 13, 2017 4:53 AM UTC (8 years ago)
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