Lifting vs BWF for TRP

throwaway-aa2 · 2015-06-30T22:49:12+00:00

Some of you have no idea what you're talking about. I've done gymnastics training before. It IS excellent for a certain application however TRP is not it, and there are a number of reasons for that.

You are trying to get your body to release more testosterone & growth hormones. Squats trigger that response because you can load insane amount of weight on it and it works more muscles in the body than any other workout.
You are trying to get results FAST. I've done gymnastics rings training for months diligently. People noticed... but I've been doing barbell training, dieting for 7 months... and people say they don't recognize my body by how much more muscular it has become.
You are trying to get bigger, rather than cut. Someone can come to this forum weighing in at 110lbs and do all the gymnastics training he wants, but at the end of the day he'll still be skinny, and many women will still see you as skinny, and you won't exert any more significant power over other men in your environment (even if you don't, the knowledge and confidence of having that power is important).

Really when people talk about lifting in this forum, it's for multiple reasons. It's to feel better about yourself, it's to have a higher SMV, it's to be stronger & healthier in life. Some of the people here are citing just one of those reasons rather than all three, and the fact of the matter is body weight fitness just isn't going to get you results fast, it isn't going to get you with a big defined chest and meaty defined legs (which is what women are going to notice), and it's not going to stimulate testosterone release and growth hormones like a heavy squat will. And no you can't do both because the time when the muscle actually grows is the recovery period (unless you take steroids then it works differently).

I've done BOTH.... I actually still have my gymnastic ring setup, and I used to do pushups / dips / lunges / pistol squats and all that bullshit... TRUST me. You're not going to get the results doing that for 5 months that I have with just heavy dedicated lifting for 5 months. It sucks... I wished it worked as well. You're welcome to do it but I guarantee you'll still be skinny and unimpressive relatively speaking by only 5 months passing.

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RPAlternate42 · 2015-06-30T19:16:55+00:00

Bodyweight stuff will increase strength skill until you can regularly do sets of 8+ reps. then you will get a little bigger until you can do sets of 12+ then you will just be maintaining endurance. You can train power by combining BWF with plyo stuff.

What you can get from BWF: muscular endurance, cardio-pulmonary endurance (depending on how you stage the rests), explosive power (depending on how much plyo and what you are doing.)

What you will never get from BWF is larger and noticibly stronger from a raw strength standpoint.

Strength development requires progressive resistance in low rep ranges.

Hypertrophic (size) development requires progressive resistance in higher rep ranges.

Weights will never replace BWF and BWF will never replace weights. Do both:

I recommend Jim Wendler's 5-3-1 using Bodyweight stuff as the accessory work.

Beautiful_Idealism · 2015-06-30T20:23:59+00:00

I have grown a passion for attaining functional strength, aka body weight fitness as opposed to lifting,

If words could kill I'd be dead right here.

I'd bet a pretty penny that your problem is more with your routine and your lifting habits than lifting itself. And you just started last semester?

alreadyredschool · 2015-06-30T18:47:00+00:00

Exercise, you don't actually have to lift, just work on yourself. Lifting provides tons of benefits and you should do it. BWF is way to slow, imagine if you want to manage to do 100 push ups what is faster, lifting or doing push ups? So if you want to manage to pull yourself up a wall for parkour, you better train with more weight than your body.

Title	Lifting vs BWF for TRP
Author	kryz5150
Upvotes	5
Comments	9
Date	June 30, 2015 6:39 PM UTC (11 years ago)
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