Spitballing Red Pill values/ideas

I'm new to this sub and have read a lot of what you guys have to say on women, sexuality... ect and would like to bounce ideas to get a picture of what my own ideals and what your's are. (I believe understanding p.o.v is everything.)
I consider myself to be pretty beta, I LIKE being a nice guy. I don't drive/pick up girls places because I want to hook up with them. I do have girls that I consider just friends/have no desire to hookup with. I don't have issues with flirting or making out with girls (i'm pretty terrible at closing, but I think it's hilarious.) I do not suffer from any social awkwardness, I just like to talk to people/have no real intentions other than being friends with anyone (guy/girl aka i'm not a sociopath). That being said, I don't pickup nines every other weekend and when I do makeout/hookup/do anything with girls it's usually blackout drunk me <- he's a funny guy. What parts of the red pill do you think I am missing and why? I'm not necessarily going to agree with you, I just want to hear this sub out.

[–]DanReggins0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I think nobody has touched on this because it's a bit complicated. I don't think you're missing much -- in fact, it almost sounds like you're bragging because I know a lot of guys here would love to be able to move like that.

It is possible to establish platonic-only relationships with females. "I don't date coworkers" is one way. "Hey, your boyfriend is my friend too, so if we can all play video games together and with others, no big deal."

But in this case, I am showing that I am decisively, intentionally placing myself into their "friend zone". That's different from being assigned there.

Where it becomes beta is with beta-provider behaviors -- giving freely without consideration for yourself and your best interest, especially under the delusion of making progress romantically or sexually.

So, are they using you? Do they look down on you? I hope not. If they're not and you're doing what you like to be doing... awesome. RP.

And if you don't want to close.. then that's up to you. Do you want to? We'd help advise. If not... you don't have to.

When I think about my own past, when I used to party a lot with some female friends present... I think the fact that I wasn't worried about getting laid or trying to fuck them all the time helped. Eventually a girl would just grab me and stick her tongue in my mouth.

I liked that.

[–]theecharon 2 points2 points2 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

[–]DanReggins1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago [recovered] (0 children) | Copy Link

We're aware of that. Still, a lot of people come here and realize that we're just trying to help. Also, there are others who have dug themselves into a hole so damn deep before they reach out that we don't know what to say.

Others attack us because there are significant political clashes at play. Do you believe that men and women are not biologically different in any way, and that any gender differences are 100% socially constructed? Because a lot of our enemies do. We are a direct enemy of that, and they attack.

As far as closing goes... how much do you want it? If you're not interested in fucking these girls, don't do it on account of me.

If you do want it and are ready to see it through to the end, start incorporating touching into your flirting, then gradually pick it up if she's receptive. Get closer. Give her the kiss eyes when your face is close to hers and you're touching her.

The tactics like this are more PUA though, and there's RP is more strategy and long term thinking.

AIDA. Attention. Interest. Decision. Then Action.

Title	Spitballing Red Pill values/ideas
Author	theecharon
Upvotes	1
Comments	3
Date	January 15, 2014 9:13 AM UTC (12 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/askTRP
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