What's the difference between not caring and giving up?

roseillus · 2017-01-03T22:05:53+00:00

Do you play video games in your basement and eat potato chips all day? No? Then you haven't given up.

AFPJ · 2017-01-03T22:06:16+00:00

Better question: does it matter which one? Nope. Go on the date, have fun, and if she's also having fun, fuck her.

mi1a · 2017-01-03T22:21:04+00:00

I don't know if I'd use the term not caring, but instead, outcome independence versus giving up. If you are outcome independent, you still have a goal, but if the outcome doesn't go the way you would have prefered, you aren't affected by it. If you give up or simply don't try, it's either because you really have no preference which way things go, or because you believe your efforts won't get you anywhere.

For example, let's say you are a job seeker in a field where your skills are in high demand. You might go into a job interview with outcome independence. This doesn't mean you don't care how the interview goes; if that was the case then you wouldn't waste your valuable time on it. It just means you know that there are 20 other employers who'd hire you in a heartbeat so you aren't going to get upset if you don't end up getting the job, or think about that during the interview. That's very different from going into an interview not even trying, or giving up on looking for work because you don't think anyone would hire you.

I am not an expert at meditation or being present, but I think a lot of people mistake being in the moment for giving up and just accepting whatever happens. You can still have goals and work to achieve them, you just take the actions necessary to achieve your goals and be present, rather than worrying about whether or not you'll succeed, or dwelling on your past successes and failures. I'm not sure how I feel about always being in the moment. I certainly think OI definitely helps when talking to women, or even not being nervous in a job interview, but emotions can be very powerful if channeled correctly.

ecosci · 2017-01-05T03:20:45+00:00

Never do anything to try and get validation from women they will resent you secretly if you cant think of anything else to do with her after sex then your on the right track be a selfish bastard they love it because you have options,right?

Title	What's the difference between not caring and giving up?
Author	CaptainCringeworthy
Upvotes	3
Comments	4
Date	January 3, 2017 10:01 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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