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“You’re very intimidating”

IHaveSalesQuestions · 2021-06-07T22:44:45+00:00

How do you rebound from that if they're genuinely intimidated....

IHaveSalesQuestions

June 7, 2021

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Title	“You’re very intimidating”
Author	IHaveSalesQuestions
Upvotes	0
Comments	17
Date	June 7, 2021 10:44 PM UTC (5 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/askTRP
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[–]sd2iv 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link

I’ll also add that there is a bit of tailoring this to your audience. Attractive women need more attraction and less comfort, less attractive women need more comfort and less attraction. Where the women falls in that scale is relative to how attractive she perceives you.

You can and sometimes should drop frame to build comfort. Let me give an example, I make a lot of money. Sometimes women, even good looking women, will feel incompatible/inferior when they learn my title. They think, like why is this guy even into me. So I’ll mention how it was a lot of hard work and a lot of struggle to get to that point. I won’t ever bring up that part up to more attractive women.

The reason the red pill stresses maintaining frame is that the vast majority of men have such low frame, that purposely dropping frame is counterproductive and too far next level. Another time where this is good is when a women asks you to open up about what is worrying you. You can drop frame and build massive comfort, if you do it right. Say that what’s worrying you is something stupidly trivial, like I’m really worried the car dealership will run out of the color car I want to buy. It builds massive comfort when you are willing to open up, and that you aren’t worried about anything that would actually negatively impact her. Like losing your job or whatever.

[–]IHaveSalesQuestions[S] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

So I’ll clue you in a bit more then for a better picture. So in my case she’s 19 and I’m 36. She’s fucking smoking hot. And I came off very dominant because I pretty much am. I’m 6’5 and very good looking. I make six figures. I’m doing okay in life. I have the ambition to do much much better though. I feel like I’m just getting started. I’ve always had enormous dreams and I’m going to get this attitude. So yeah I come off dominant and like I’m going to get what I want because typically when I want something bad enough I do get it. I straight up told her I liked submissive women and asked “are you submissive” to which she said “yes sir I am submissive”. Awesome. Doesn’t get better. But then she later said I’m intimidating because I’m a handsome man who is older.

So when she said that instinctively I dropped frame to comfort. Like hey trust me inside I’m a good guy. Relax, I got you type of vibe. I’m dominant know what I want but I’m not going to fuck you over. I’m just not about that. I’ll be open and honest. If she doesn’t like and leaves then on to the next.

Frame is something I’m still learning to be more comfortable in though and be less reactionary. I’ve heard this many times before without knowing what frame was which brought me here.

[–]sd2iv 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I think the key to dropping frame, is to only do it on purpose when it’s necessary or useful. Frame is really just my interpretation of the world is right, and I’m going to follow that interpretation regardless of what is going on around me. Never acquiescing doesn’t build comfort. I’m sure kevin federline one was still something like 95-99% attractive frame 1-5% frame dropped comfort. TRP guys want to never drop frame like Clint Eastwood when they would be better off occasionally dropping it in good ways like James Bond.

As for the girl, the reason to switch topics before building comfort is to avoid being reactionary. Dropping frame after something she’s said is reactionary . It’s not purposeful dropping of frame. Dropping frame is just one way to build comfort. In this case I think the best way too handle it would to qualify her with things you like about her. But do it after a topic switch so it’s not reactionary.

In this instance she gave you attraction points and hinted she needed comfort points. Dropping frame here throws away attraction points while not really building comfort since it’s reactionary.

[–]IHaveSalesQuestions[S] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

[–]sd2iv 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

I’m kind of hamstering it right now. The real answer is just experience. It’s like if you’ve seen the situation enough times or messed up enough times you can read the subtext. Reading is good for knowing the why or pointing you in a direction. I also just did list of stupid stuff to learn what really causes what. Like pulling girls without ever asking their name or flipping off a chick to see if I could then approach apologize and real it back in. I’d also say that the more situations you are in, which makes you more relaxed, and the higher up the social ladder you are, which causes you to look at the world more rationally and less emotionally, the more you can focus on things like reading people, reading the vibe and logistics. Like when I’m talking with women nowadays I don’t think about a lot of the steps of seduction. Sometimes just a little tidbit will pop into my head to focus on. Like I’m not actively thinking about escalating touch, or push pulling with body rocking, or does she need qualification right now, or am I controlling the narrative by telling fun stories that make me look interesting exciting and a leader of men.

Let me give an example of a recent pull. Met a chick through a friend at dinner, couple of guys and a couple of girls, her friends I didn’t know either. I could tell that I was seated at the wrong side of the table. So I walked over to a neighboring table grabbed a stool and sat at the other end of the table between two of the girls. The stool was much higher than the table so I was sitting over everyone. Someone made a comment so I just playfully said, yeah I like to be sociable, I don’t mind being the center of attention. I told some good stories to the girls and flirted with the blonde one I liked. She asked me something about height I said I’m 5’11 and she responded something like oh I’m 6 foot that’s no good. I wasn’t really paying attention as there were a couple of conversations going on. I knew it would be important to address that shit test I just ignored, so everything was on autopilot til I spotted my in. My friend asked her how she liked being tall, I immediately answered who wouldn’t want to be tall. Taller people get more respect, have taller children, are more able to do things, they are more competent. The only reason you’d want to be short is if you lived in Somalia or somewhere you didn’t have enough food. Shit test passed. Next step was to be escalating and show some attention and qualify her. I touched her arm and shoulder a few times and patted the top of her head. Said I like that about you based on something she said. Then we left to go elsewhere. As we were walking I put my arm out in a loop for her to hold onto. She did. We get to a tourist spot and there is some kid blowing bubbles. I know that I still need to address her insecurity with the height mismatch. She pops a bubble. I do what I do for any chick over 5’8 who often doesn’t feel small. I pick her up at her waist and hold her in the air so she can pop bubbles. She freaks out a little but I keep holding her since I’m strong. I bring her down and make out with her. She is completely compliant and we go home after dinner/bar later. Oh and i licked her face like a dog at the bar/restaurant cuz I wanted to. That’s all I thought about in terms of game the whole night. I didn’t think about if my story was good if her friends liked me etc etc the rest was autopilot.

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