Whether it is seddit, PUA, or even the red pill stuff; I feel like when it comes to getting hot girls, the right questions aren't being asked or answered.

The basic advice is "learn game" and "lift" but really, it does not focus on social life, the social world, and finding a way to have your role in society. This whole "be a lone wolf" is the kind of advice that has guys go from shy shut ins to awkward annoying spam approachers who get banned from malls, thrown out of clubs, and don't actually experience success with hot girls.

Instead, the main question that should be getting asked and answered is how do I build my social value?.

In other terms, how do I go from being a loner shut in to someone who actually has friends and some social value?

The "lone wolf alpha"? He doesn't have social value in most cases unless he is a celebrity, to tell some guy to be that way is garbage advice.

In reality, most of the guys who get hot girls have social value and status. A guy with social value and status will always get more hot girls than the guy with "better game" or even the guy with better looks, maybe even the guy with more money.

For example, you can go to a state school in a college town and even if you are handsome and have game, the reality is that the guy in the high status fraternity or on a football team will still get hot girls before you do, because he has status. So the proper advice to give to a college kid would be to tell him to build status, make friends, maybe join a frat, and do all that instead of going full PUA with random girls he runs into on campus.

Similarly, we should be giving this advice to adult men.

If a guy does not even have friends to go out with, any groups he can be a part of, or even a half-way decent social life then how can he expect to get hot girls who have access to high value guys that have all of that?

Most attractive women will assume something is up with the guy if he is a loner, they won't assume he is "mysterious", that is erotica nonsense.

What we should be doing is talking about HOW adult men can build their social value and then let dating work itself out, it usually does that way.