I recently just moved to the downtown area of my city after graduating college. Before, I was living in the small college town inhabited solely by the students of my university. Its a bit of an anomaly. Anyways, when I was in school I was in a frat and was pretty successful with women. Didn't have to try too hard, but just had fun and I did well for myself. Im learning the club/bar scene is a completely different beast. This added to the fact that Im really the only person of my group of friends from college to move out here has proven to be a nice dose of reality. I am no longer only competing against people my own age in my own situation (young and still relatively broke), but am rubbing elbows with guys that are into their 30's, who have been working out and making decent money for years. I work out everyday, I'm in pretty good shape (though I do look pretty young and I'd still like to put on more weight), make Ok money but I enjoy my job and its in my industry so it afford me a great opportunity to learn, but how do I compete with the guys that have been doing the exact same thing for years?