Hey seddit, what is up. Long time no see.
Alot has changed since I last posted on this sub. I have connected with alot more people (no, not just girls) around me and I'm still in the process of working towards the man I really want to be... Even though that probably should be a lifelong process, which is a topic for another day. Alot has changed and alot has happened. I had to drop alot of so called acquaintances because of my honesty, but therefore, I gained alot of good friends. I had to drop the acquaintances because of the exact topic I want to talk to you about. This isn't just about them, it is about a select group of people in general. The group I'm talking about are called 'Downers'.

Downers can be specified as people who are, most of the time, trying to make you feel bad or people that make you feel bad. You don't want these downers in your life. They just make you feel bad and hold you back from the things you really want to do. What you need and want are people that motivate you.

I am going to give you an example of a downer.

A couple of months ago I was clubbing with a friend of mine and a friend of his (from his education) which I met that day. We were walking down to a club nearby and I spot a cute hb, about 8.5/10 and her friend (hb 6/10 so I'd rather connect with the 8.5). Now, night game is going better for me even though it is not optimal yet. I say with a smile to my friend that I am going over there and talk to them and he has to wing me. My friend doesn't really do approaches and he has some self confidence issues with women (sexuall). That said he IS a great and spontanious guy and awesome to hang with. We were going for the women. Now this is where the downer (his friend) stepped in. He started saying that it wouldn't work anyway and that those women were way out of our league. He said that we'd probably get laughed at and get slapped. At this point I was astonished. Why would you get slapped for talking to someone? I didn't get why he said that at all. I didn't care about it and said to my friend that we should go to them, but he did not want to go anymore! The things that that guy said were impacting him in that moment that he got severe AA right at that point. Basically, that guy brought him down. I still went to the two girls, even if it was just to prove a point. After talking for about 30 minutes (my friend and his already went inside after I said to not wait for me), we went inside. I hit it of great with the hb 8.5. We had a great connection and k- and f-close were there that night. She told me that she nearly never got approached and when guys did, they were too nervous or shy. We're still FWB right now and maybe more in the future.

The guy tried to bring us down. It did not work with me but it DID with my friend. After everything I did not need his 'help' but after that night I was convinced that I don't want to spend more time with a downer like that guy anymore.

A more recent example of a downer was one over the internet. Yes, online!

Now, I absolutely love making music so I occasionally visit music producer subs. I commented on a post of another producer with a positive comment. Now, this guy, which I will refer to as 'downer', commented on the same post that he thought the OP was a little girl with a couple of arguments. This just did not feel right and I replied to him. After some replying, the downer said to me that he thought I was absolutely pathetic. Pathetic that I was on this seduction subreddit (yes he went through my history) and that I went clubbing solo sometimes. Also, because I sleep with girls that I really connect with, it is another point where I am pathetic, according to him. I tried convincing him that his view was wrong and that it could work. But he did not want to know about it and kept trying to degrade me. Finally I just cut off the conversation and told him that he really should change his views.

Point here is guys, find good people around you. Good friends and people in general. You will meet people in life that want to bring you down, that try to bring you to their level, but, DON'T let them! Do your own thing. Seduction-wise and life-wise. Just approach girls and of course people in general for a small chat.
These downers are everywhere. In real life and online. Perhaps they just have the wrong view and they need some adjustments in their view, BUT they need to be open minded for this. If they really have one view of the world and that is the only view that someone should have, according to him, then there is no point in trying to discuss a thing with that kind of guy.

I hope some of you at least found this usefull as I need and read threads on this subreddit still.