Decided to field test the apocalypse opener, I've seen it mentioned here and its talked about like the impossible opener only to be used as a theoretical example of the furthest left you can get on the direct/indirect scale. NO! As mentioned here a million times it doesn't matter what you open with. Anyone who has been fully in state and is just being social can attest to that. Open with absolutely anything and the self will show through allowing the interaction to either burn out or go well.

I went out early to a bar for grub with a few best friends, we had a great time and I easily entered into state being around the things I love best and being the loudest, most obnoxious group in the place. We finish eating and head to a bar pretty early before it was busy and continued having a great time, bringing the party as they say. More people arrived and after hanging around them for a while (and approaching and being social in the meantime) I could see I was falling out of state. Not consciously but I noticed I was getting into a more logical state of mind because of the content of the conversation when I was talking to an old friend who just arrived. So before I could fall out of state completely I left the venue for Wendys before I drove home with three friends.

I opened two hb-6's right outside the venue and asked if the one would like to go home with me. She laughed and said she was married so I asked the other one. She laughed and said she would love to (jokingly) and had to bring her friend home. Even though I didn't close this set I consider it a great success and could've definitely closed on the second girl but she wasn't really cute. The reasons why it worked (they left with a greater state and so did I. Value mutually added) is because 1 I wasn't outcome dependent. If they both dropped to their knees and tag-teamed me, great. If not I couldn't give a shit less what these two late 30's girls thought of me and if I got blown out hard it would've given my buddies a laugh who were just down from us. 2 Self-amused. I opened because I wanted to, not to "get" anything from them. 3 Didn't put on a front. My natural personality was on the line. Sure if I got blown out hard my ego could've said that wasn't the real me and I was just joking but the real me likes to fuck around like that and joke with people. Sometimes I've got blown out doing stupid stuff like that and my ego does hurt because I wanted to approached or the people watching to laugh and validate me. Not here just doing it because I wanted to. Something you can't define or try to do, it just happens when your in state.

I was surprised at how well the first set opened so when I tried it on another girl walking by herself later on I was expecting a good result. That's why I don't think this one hooked. She gave me a weird look and kept walking. Or it maybe could've been because the first two were already talking and having fun in a good head space whereas this girl was inside her head since she was by herself.

I honestly can't remember the next two I opened.. Either way it opened well but the interaction didn't last long. I remember they responded well, laughing and throwing out IOIs even though they said 'no.' I think I could've kept it going longer but instead pretended to freak out that they said no. I yelled out SHIT and smashed my hands onto a glass storefront and knocked over a garbage can and walked off. Haha I could've kept talking to them and maybe clawed the one to practice but smashing shit was more fun (read: self-amusing. I wasn't really in a sexual state but a have fun state. So instead of clawing the one in and making out I decided to pump my own state after the "rejection" despite it not being a real rejection.)

The last set I opened were a fatty and a hb-7 who clearly just left a club or bar. I asked the fat ass if she would like to go home with me with the biggest needy face I could pull off. I had the man version of dinner doggy bowl eyes going on. As I asked I clawed her in. She laughed her head off and pushed me off saying "Never." I said crap and grabbed the hb-7 and asked her the same thing. She said No never and playfully tried to push me off but I was in a sexual state now. I looked her in the eyes and said why not. She giggled and gave me BS reasons why she couldn't. She couldn't look me in the eye and kept darting her eyes away and giggling so I grabbed her face and gave her a quick make out. I whispered in her ear saying I'll take her number in case she changes her mind. I held her so she didn't see her friend while she gave me her number because I was afraid the fatty would cock block. Number close and I left.

Opener summary. Expect a no every time. Only prostitutes will say yes. The only exception I see to this is if you approach a girl by herself in a club with in a super sexual state. So either you get a outright no and a weird look or a giggly no. If you get the giggly no either joke around like your really pissed off or disappointed. Exaggeration is key because it shows your joking. That or I would just claw them in and plow through while keeping yourself in a sexual state. There would be lots of different ways to approach with this opener but like anything it'll work if your inner game and state is on point. The second set I tried didn't open because I was reaction seeking even though I opened the exact same way! I would never try this opener again but I'll use it for sure the next time I'm feeling good, especially in a club. I'm dying to go try to use it with the claw on some club rats.

Anyways I text that number the next day. She didn't respond well probably because I text her sexual shit so I said I had fun fucking with her yesterday and she agreed that they were loling about me after I left. So I suggested we got to know each other better and set up a day 2. Met up at her house to pick her up. Talked to her a bit on the couch before making a move.