Moving forward the Seduction/PUA community should strict and distance itself from all the other subgroups in the manosphere. What do you think?

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For instance, I noticed that there are tons of subcultures that I think are the opposite of TRUE seduction which is actionable and practical advice.

Legitimate Advice:

PUA/Practical advice(Sopot Summit Speakers and a few honest coaches here and there.)

For instance, this seduction group should only be based around this upper group, there should be more regulation and consensus.

Who should the community distance itself from:

1-Woo Woo Self Help: A lot of the most popular coaches are teaching this. Their aim is to make money and not to teach seduction. Advocating for superfluous information

2- Internet Marketers: They abound in the community trying to make money off guys. Saying that you can get quick fixes by simply buying their product.

3-Redpill: A lot of these guys, not everyone, is misogynistic and also bring right-wing politics to the table. They advocate traditional gender roles and feel anger towards westernized women. Again some of their advice can be helpful but it's mixed with calling people, 'cucks' or 'soy boys'.

4-MGTOW: Unfortunately, this seems like a hate group. While the idea of men going their own way it also comes with constant whining about women or how women are not intelligent.

5-Black Pillers: If Redpillers are socially maladjusted guys black pillars seem to be extreme nihilism. I'll be worried for guys like this honestly seems like they have deeper issues.

6-Incels: Nothing to say here. All I know if Incels and black pillars hate PUA then they should not be part of PUA groups. This is similar to being an atheist and going to church.

7-Roosh V, expat culture..etc: All these guys are bringing right-wing politics, anger towards women, confrontational attitudes. Roosh has hurt the PUA community by drawing negative attention to himself, while calling himself a dating coach. Thereby, people now associate pick up artists with him.

Anyway, I think for the prosperity of this community it is time to set a clear path, cut ties with these groups, depoliticized seduction and venture into new frontiers.