My conversations are not so good

Stujitsu2 · 2022-04-12T08:41:21+00:00

The best advice is this

Action matters not the reaction. You can never predict another persons reaction. But you can test it by trying something.

Start small. Start with simple things like eye contact and a simple how's it going?

What you are looking for is incremental openness. For example a woman who says hi back is probably more open to converse than one who ignores you. Yet Incremental in the sense that her saying hi doesn't prove she is open to conversation. Conversation doesn't prove she is open to flirtation. Flirtation doesn't prove she will meet you for a date. Meeting for a date doesn't prove she will want to be kissed and so on. You must test the waters incrementally. If you go from A to B to C and C crosses a little boundary. You can retreat without loosing all. But if you go from A to Z it will implode.

For example, I met a woman at a bar, we talked a long while. Then we became flirtatious. Because things were going well I put my hand on her thigh. She pushed it off. But we kept talking and flirting. I did not apologize. Nor did I try to force it back on her, not that I would. She didn't get upset. She just showed me she wasn't ready for that. I ended up asking her out and we met a few days later. Now if I never did it, she may or may not have agreed to meet again. But, despite her pushing my hand off, it also gives some man to woman sexual tension. If i tried again, she probably would have got upset. If I touched her thigh 39 minutes prior she probably would have smacked me. You see its about going from A to B to C. And respecting boundaries.

For the record I am not saying you need to touch every woman before asking for a date. In most cases you should not especially on the thigh. I did it because things were going well, that is all.

If I converse with a woman for 15-plus minutes, Starting casually, building up to something flirtatous then ask for a date. Verse going up to a random with an I think your cute can I have your number before I even know her name. Who do I have better rapport with?

You need to understand its about openness and boundaries and incremental advance, retreating when necessary. Understanding retreat is not surrender. And knowing when to actually surrender.

If you say hi to a woman and she ignores you when you know she heard you. Trying to push is not respecting her boundary. If you converse and you say something flirty and she doesn't reciprocate, so you keep doing it anyway, that is not respecting her boundary.

Now for where you are at. Your goal should be just to greet people. And see who is open to converse. When you are comfortable having a platonic conversation with a woman you find attractive, graduate to flirting. Then graduate to asking for a date and so fourth.

No amount of script will truly help you if you are not comfortable having a platonic conversation. Remember you are not trying to get something from anyone. You are seeing who is open to converse. But here are some tips to get you started.

This is totally random but I just wanted to come say hi! I love meeting new people.

What's your name? I'm...

So what's your best story?

Be prepared for them to reply what is YOUR best story sometimes.

Have a funny story to tell.

Its a good way to get a convo going.

Practice on lil old ladies first if you have to. They will talk your fucking ear off!

If a woman is too intimidatingly attractive its okay. Start with one that doesn't intimidate you. Including men. If you talk to everyone in a bar, women will perceive you as social anyway and that's good!

Also understand you are human. You will have better and worse days.

Title	My conversations are not so good
Author	ronn10
Upvotes	2
Comments	3
Date	April 12, 2022 7:34 AM UTC (4 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/seduction
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