Hey Guys I need some advice, let me tell you the story. I went out with a girl I met at a party. She is an aspiring lawyer, pretty much what you call beauty with brain. I had a great time with her, told her something I am vulnerable about, my dreams, ambitions and pick up lifestyle, some of method like pull push, some crazy stories. I was just sitting opposite to her, so I maintained good eye contact and smile as form of escalation and showing interest.

She was intrigued, and complemented that I was intellectual, and how she can talk about anything which other people does not understand. She was definitely a high value girl, prettiest girl I went out with. I asked which type of guy she wants, she said the intellectual ones. I guess thats her socially conditioned side,

We went to a place for partying, I escalated little bit keeping in mind with compliance ladder, but she was not compliant with kiss or getting physical. I just came close to her, kept my hand on her waist and danced, sometimes coming too close as pressure on and taking it off when I felt it is too much.

We were definitely vibing, but it can be just in my head considering it was not a happy ending story. I complimented her little bit, on how hot she looks in this dress. She took the pressure off, by saying she look hot in every dress. I said even in bikini ? She said no she has little bit fat in her stomach. I poked her belly playfully, telling her let me test that. But throughout the interaction I did not give her any negative emotional trigger only positive ones.

it was 1.30 or 2 am in night, she said she wants to go for after party. I said I am down with that, I had a bike. It was at a long distance, 20 min drive, I was bit drunk and sleepy and we met an accident. I lost control, but luckily I was driving super slowly, I fell down, she fall on me and got some minor scratch in her knee. The thing I dug most about her, she was totally calm, I was also calm.

I made sure that she got first aid, took care of her, I met her identical twin sister on the after party. Her sister was punching me playfully how can I let her get hurt. I said I wanted her to remember me in pain. She lied that she slipped in road. The sisters sure had a huge social status, knew a lot of people and it was a grand party, I felt underdressed there. I tried to escalate verbally tried to praise her more, but she just said I exaggerated so much. I could feel that attraction level was dropping. I guess I did not leave a lot of room for her to chase, I was too into her.

Anyway long story short, she friend zoned me, like thanks for taking care of me, but we are just friends. I am attaching our last screenshot. My strategy was to fail fast, if she is not into me, I would let her go. Plenty of fish in sea.

My conclusion is, she did not feel I was offering enough value of her, or she was not that attracted to me physically, did not fell I was sex worthy. I am a big fan of being natural, my question is if she does not feel you offer enough value, can you still get laid or in a relationship by spiking and playing with her emotions. There comes the question of morality. Is that fair to her ? I got laid playing the same game with other girls, but they were not that high value and pretty much into me.

  1. Do you play different game with different girls? Like going on some more dates till she complies? Had I pretended to be her friend and going out a few times more would that made any difference ?

  2. when to give up ? My problem is that the girls whom I am really into are not into me. I was friend zoned earlier, and no matter how hard I try, I can't fucking escape that.

  3. I know the ultimate goal of pick up is to get a high values and high sex drive girl. I felt she is one of them and I screwed it up.

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