Openers don’t open sets

count_chocula · 2011-07-29T22:29:45+00:00

I respectfully disagree. Lines do not open sets, but openers do. The point of an opener, as far as I understand it, is to start a conversation. That's why an opinion opener works really well, because it gets strangers talking.

I was at the bar with a buddy of mine last Sunday, and we were talking about if chimps were genetically closer to humans than orangutans (no idea how we got on this conversation), but before I looked up the answer on Google (I was 100% sure it was chimps), I made sure to get the opinion of the girls sitting next to us at the bar. Was that a line? Absolutely not. There was nothing about that subject of conversation that inferred that I was interested in fucking either of the girls. But it did start a conversation, which led to games of pool, and more conversation, which led to a phone number.

Yes, you need to be confident, and eye contact and all that, but openers, when used properly, do exactly what they're supposed to do. Open.

If you spend hours crafting the perfect opener, then yeah, it will probably not work that great. But if it's a genuine "oh let me include you in the conversation I'm already having" kind of thing, then I think that's gold.

2011-07-29T18:03:41+00:00

while reading this all I could think was:

"A good smile, strong eye contact and just a simple hi seems to works fine enough."

and then you read this:

Don’t spend ages trying to work out what the best opener is. Just go in with good non verbals, and “Hello” will be good enough.

Title	Openers don’t open sets
Author	daygamer
Upvotes	20
Comments	2
Date	July 29, 2011 3:00 PM UTC (14 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/seduction
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