So I have a bit of a delema. I have finally over come my approach anxiety and if I see a girl that I find attractive you better believe I will approach her. That's 50% of the way there right? Anyway I'll try and keep this short and sweet. How do I become more charismatic\seductive? I usually keep t short when I talk to girls . I usually will just say hi. I find you cute make a lil small talk if there up for it. (Although a lot of girls seem like I'm just interrupting them) 1/10 will find it charming and smile and feel complimented that I talk to them but almost all of the time I just get the okay your the 10th guy who has hit on me vibe) I will tell them they are cute and that I would love to hang out some time let me get your number. But almost all the time I get the I have a boyfriend line and I have a feeling that's just defensive mode for a lot of the girls I talk to. I want to be able to develop a little seductive rapport. How do I do that so girls feel more comfortable with me? Since approaching girls for me always feels a little awaward and that I'm making them uncomfortable just asking how are you doing? I know this takes practice but I suppose I need some tips on the approach. Not some Bullshit pick up lines but natural conversation. (Although this sub has never been known for that)

Also what's the best way to approach a group of girls. I always find that the hardest. Cause I'm usually only looking for one girls number since she is the most attractive. I don't want to be rude by ignoring the other girls. Although it does sometimes seem that if I approach a group they find me more attractive if I'm looking at just one and the others want attention too. Either way I'm getting off topic that's more of a side question.