Seddit let's talk first dates!

I looked at the side bar of the guides and didn't find anything on first dates. This being the strongest part of my game, I thought I would drop some knowledge. A lot of this information is rehashed from different books and forum posts with my own twist to it.

So we aren't talking about picking up, number closing or night/day game. This is for those people that have asked the girl on a date already and need to know what to do.

So why dates? Why are they the easiest? LOGISTICS, LOGISTICS, LOGISTICS, LOGISTICS, LOGISTICS, LOGISTICS, LOGISTICS, LOGISTICS. On dates you control everything. Where you go, what you do, who you meet. There are no cock blocks. No loud music unless you want some. No distractions. It’s just you and the girl.

So let's talk about traditional dates and ideas. Traditionally there are 3 types of dates that people go on. 1) Dinner date 2) Movie date 3) Coffee date or lunch date

Now normally people will say. Hey bink1time these have worked for literally hundreds if not thousands of years. Why would we want to re invent the wheel? My friend took a girl on a dinner date and now they are married! I'm not saying traditional dates don't work. I'm not even saying they are bad. Some guys destroy on dinner dates. I'm simply saying there are more efficient ways of doing it.

1) Dinner Dates

Now let's look at the good and the bad parts of dinner dates.

PROs: It allows you to talk to one another in a neutral setting. It's also not noisy so you can clearly communicate and get to know about each on an intimate level. Depending on where you go there will be some sort of entertainment maybe a piano player or more likely the different types of food. You can talk about the food and what you liked and how amazing it looks/tastes.

Cons: There is no room for touching. One of the most important principals of picking up is touching or kino. Touching is very important. I'm not going to go through it right now there are some sidebar articles on kino. There is also a lot of pressure on dinner dates. Because it's such a "classic" date there is a lot of pressure to get it perfect. There is a huge build up. You are talking to your boys. She is talking to her friends. It's very official and serious. This leads to interview style dates. YOU ARE ON A DATE YOU WANT TO HAVE FUN AND SHE WANTS TO HAVE FUN. THIS IS NOT AN INTERVIEW. That's the last thing you want it to be. They are also expensive. If you go to a good restaurant it could run you anywhere from 70-200 dollars for 2 people. That’s expensive if you are going on 2-3 dates a week that’s 300 dollars down the tube every week on just dates. It adds up fast you are spending 1k a month on dates that’s 12k a year.

2) Movie date

Pros:

It’s dark in the movie theatre so you can potentially get lots of kino going. Touching her leg, hands, and thighs. Kissing is also a possibility, but that goes along with kind. There is entertainment so you don’t have to provide all of it like you do on dinner dates.

Cons: You can’t talk. So you can’t get to know the girl. You can’t form any kind of connection. This is really bad because the point of a date is to get to know the girl. To feel close to that girl and make a connection.

Lunch date/coffee date(This is by far my favorite of the classic dates)

Pros: Is has all the benefits of a dinner dates. Plus you can put the chairs together so that you can get kino going. It is also less formal so there is no pressure on this particular date.

Cons: The entertainment falls totally on you. So if you suck then the date sucks. Much like a dinner date.

Perfect Dates- The reason having the brunt of the entertainment fall totally on you is bad is because if you are boring or not funny. Then the date sucks and it’s your entirely fault. But let’s say you go to a zoo and she loves the animals, but you are boring then the date went well AND YOU GET THE CREDIT. Even though you were boring/not funny she loved the other entertainment so much that the date actually went well. It’s the same when you are a leader of your group. If you take them to a venue or place that sucks it’s your entirely fault. If you take them somewhere good then you get all the credit. This is also the reason that girls don’t want to pick the place to go. Because IF THEY PICK AND IT SUCKS IT’S THEIR FAULT. Now that we know the standard dates let’s talk about elements that would make a “perfect date” in a vacuum. So we know that it should not be too loud, you need to be able to talk and get to know the girl intimately. We also need other entertainment then just ourselves. And finally we need Kino.

So let’s look at some places that would make good date spots based on these criteria. Museums- entertainment (paintings),connection(sit on a couch talk about things), Kino(twirl her, hold her hand while walking ect..)

Ice Skating- entertainment (skating),connection(talk to each other while skating, take a rest on a couch and talk), Kino( Hold her hand while skating, twirl her ect..)

Zoo-- entertainment (animal),connection(talk to each other while watching monkey fuck, take a rest on a chair and talk), Kino( Hold her hand while walking, twirl her ect..)

See old monuments in a city- entertainment (monuments),connection(talk to each other while walking, take a rest on a chair and talk), Kino( Hold her hand while walking, twirl her ect..)

Bowling- entertainment (Bowling),connection(talk to each other, take a rest on a chair and talk), Kino( Hold her hand, show her how to bowl ect..)

Pool- entertainment (Pool),connection(talk to each other, take a rest on a chair and talk), Kino( Hold her hand, show her how to play pool ect..)

Ok so now we have good date spots. But we can do more we can be better! Who said that you are only allowed to do one activity on a date? No one, so I like to do 3-4 activities.

My usual date is Main Entertainment->Food/snack->bar/drinks->my place/her place. I do multiple venues for a number of reasons. The number one reason is because it allows you to lead the girl. The more you lead the more they will follow. If she has been saying yes and following you all night. It’s pretty easy for her to say yes and follow you to your place.

Second reason is because at the end of the day game is about logistics . Honestly I think 70% of game is logistics. If you talk to anyone good or has been picking up for a while. They will say things like. Logistics is king or AFCs worry about game Puas worry about logistics. Every good pua has some sort of spin on this saying. So basically what I do is I try to get us as close to my place/ her place as possible. The bar or food place I take her is usually 3 blocks from my place why? Because when we get out I can simply say hey lets go watch a movie/see my sketches/ drink some wine at my place its 3 blocks away you can’t stay long. Boom logistics just got me laid my place was close she was into it and it happened. If we were 40 mins away. She probably would not have gone. AFC Adam says it best you need to funnel the girl to your place. So as you jump from venue to venue you want to get closer and closer to the place where you will close.

Third reason you want your dates to have a sense of spontaneity. Even if they are all planned out. Everything should “just happen” for her. She should be swept off her feet. When she is telling the story to her friends it should go something like this.

“We went to the zoo. I can’t believe he actually took me to the zoo I haven’t been there since I was maybe 9. No one else has ever done that, it was very exciting. Then after the zoo we got hunger so we went to this place that he adores. They had the best Cuban food there. We had a drink and he suggested we go to this Belgium place for beer tasting. I only had a couple of sips from each one they were really cool. Finally we went to his place because he wanted me to see some sketches and it sorta just happened “

See how it just sorta happens well we went on a date then we got hungry then we went for a little drink then his place.

Last couple of thoughts. My mantra for first dates is "failing to plan is planning to fail". You need to plan your date out perfectly. Now that doesn’t that the date has to go exactly how you planned no matter what in fact, it will most certainly go wrong and not according to plan. Things will come up and things will go wrong. But you must have a plan and 2-3 back up plans. Girls want to see how you react to disaster. I remember watching something and the girl was like well I wasn’t into him and then our broke up and he didn’t panic just changed the try and calmed me down and we are dating.

I remember being on a date with a girl and we went row boating. Well the people renting out the row boats were protesting! So we couldn’t go. I didn’t panic I knew there was a museum 15 blocks away and I simply said follow me I got this. So we did. Also just because a girl doesn’t want to go somewhere don’t force her. I remember telling some girl that we should go to the zoo she said she didn’t want to go. I didn’t argue I just said lets go get drinks instead and she agree’d.

So PLAN IT OUT LOGISTICS GET YOU LAID. If you go somewhere make sure you have 2-3 back up places to go. Remember kids “Grab your towel and don’t panic”