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What are your same day- same lay stories during the day time?

jabbawolfenstien · 2017-02-25T22:06:39+00:00

Elaborate your answers and explain them in a way that includes raw conversations so that these answers can be evaluated and be proved helpful to us passionate...

jabbawolfenstien

February 25, 2017

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Title	What are your same day- same lay stories during the day time?
Author	jabbawolfenstien
Upvotes	9
Comments	13
Date	February 25, 2017 10:06 PM UTC (9 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/seduction
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[–]letsgetrandy 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]ThankY0u 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

[–]jabbawolfenstien 9 years ago [recovered] (10 children) | Copy Link

[–]ThankY0u 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Sure, I'll explain. This probably isn't what you had in mind when you posted the original post, but I think it's an interesting topic.

Like I said, I used to give longboarding (as in a long skateboard) lessons for a few summers. The array of people who attended was very colorful: men, women, kids, teenagers, retirees and sometimes hot girls.

I slept with a couple of them. Once we went to my place right after the lesson. Keep in mind that these were single 2-hour lessons. I didn't see the same people on regular basis.

The line I used was: "want to come to my place and have a cup of tea?"

You wanted to hear about same day lays, this kind of qualifies, but isn't very interesting by itself. The interesting topic here is the lifestyle that gives access to hot girls.

RSD Todd has talked a lot about this topic recently. Basically your success with women boils down to three contributing areas.

Attractiveness aka magnetism (Face, grooming, style, fitness, charisma etc)
Lifestyle aka access (do you hang around hot girls on regular basis, do you have a car, motorcycle, what's your living situation, what hobbies do you have, what's your social circle like etc)
Game aka tools & tactics (opening, flirting, escalation, closing, verbal skills etc)

The theory is, that if you want to be really succesful with women, you need to excel in two of the above. If you can do all three, that's awesome, but one is not enough.

Keep in mind that this is by no means absolute and end-all truth. This is just a model. A platform for growth, if you will. Another model would be inner-outer game balance. It helps to think about the balance between those two, but life is of course much more complicated and less black and white.

Me giving longboarding lessons contributed to lifestyle and thus gave me access to hot girls. This is actually a very classic setup. Girls often sleep with their coaches/teachers/instructors be it tennis, golf, surfing or whatever. This is the combination being an authority figure and giving value.

Girls develop crushes on their professors for this very reason. The prof is an authority figure who keeps on giving value. Girls develop crushes for their profs even if the profs are not that attractive. Especially true if the prof is passionate about the subject he teaches.

I can only imagine the gauntlet of pussy, social stigma and career suicide the attractive ones go through every fucking semester. Talk about golden handcuffs.

Anyhow.

The cheat code here is this: there are many crafts where you only need an intermediate skill level to coach beginners. Intermediate in anything takes like two or three years. That's fast.

Sure there are things where It's a must to have a advanced level teacher even for the beginner stuff, but you can use your own judgement. And speaking of which - if you're passionate about something, why not go all the way to advanced.

Coaching is just one example how to create an attractive lifestyle, get access to hot girls and build social value + skills. Just remember to do it for for fun, not for the girls or you end up as a creep.

Will coaching make you drown in pussy? Usually not. Will it build your character as an well rounded individual? Hell yea! Will you get laid? Every now and then.

One more thing - more on topic this time.

You asked about specific raw conversations from daygame that lead to sex on that very same day. This didn't happen to me but I'll share it anyway.

This guy says he can close from the street during the day much more consistently than from the clubs. One of he's go to lines for closing is: "Want to come to my place and check out this brand new electric kettle I got?"

I fucking love that line! It's so fucking obvious that no one is interested in your god damn electric kettle! When the attraction is there, all you need to do is close. That line conveys so many things good things.

You're funny
You don't care about the outcome because you're willing to use such a stupid line
You're socially skillful enough to not ask directly for sex, while at the same time you do.
You're communicating that you're both down to fuck. You just need any stupid excuse. I sometimes ask girls to come and check out this interesting book I have. Not nearly as boss.
You're willing to close and take the lead.

This is a really long winded off topic comment and I think not many will see it, but I felt like sharing, so I did.

I'd like to hear your insights as OP. You also asked for conversation so maybe this will stir some.

Peace.

[–]jabbawolfenstien 9 years ago [recovered] (7 children) | Copy Link

[–]ThankY0u 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

What first comes to mind on professional level: Rockstar, athlete, DJ, club promoter, dancer, producer etc.

The fact is that none of these are intersting regarding this discussion. If you are an F1-driver, you wouldn't be browsing seduction forums.

What's interesting is what lifestyle choices and recretional activities bring you closer to hot girls. The truth is that half of the world's population are women, and they are are everywhere all the time.

One of my favorite pieces of life advice comes from Woody Allen: 80 percent of success is just showing up.

I've manifested this in multitude of ways. First of all I say yes to a lot of things. I only say no, if I really really don't want to do the thing, and I would do it only because of fear of missing out.

I love the movie Yes Man with Jim Carrey. It's kind of stupid and cheesy, but delivers a beautiful message. By saying yes, you create the conditions for opportunities to grow into full fruition.

Of course if you say yes to everything, you'll burn out and ruin your life. Everything in moderation. Life is not black and white and neither is pickup. You want to paint your reality with as beautiful colors as you possibly can.

The following strategies have worked for me.

Get involved with things. While I was studying I was very active in the extracurriculars. Met a lot of people and gained a lot of skills that the classroom couldn't provide.

I also have habit of starting a new hobby every 12 or 6 months. Some come and go while some stay and stick. Some hobbies bring me closer to hot girls, some don't.

You should never do a recreational activity just because of girls. One example from my own life is AcroYoga. Great way to meet girls, but it just doesn't appeal to me. The irony is, that I've actually done both acrobatics and yoga separately for years. The one thing where I could combine those two and meet girls at the same time doesn't interest me at all. The sport itself just seems so fucking dull and over hyped. Could I pull a lot of ass from those circles? Of course, but I don't want to waste my time doing boring ass shit.

Do you like festivals or events? Rather than bying a ticket, go and volunteer. Actually any cause that uses volunteers and is in line with your values is worth your time. Great places to learn skills, meet people and grow your network.

Hobbies and projects are great for meeting girls for a couple of reasons.

1. You meet the same group of people on regular basis.
2. You already have something in common.
3. You can let your actual personality shine without having to rely on gamey tactics.

Number 3 is actually how normal people create attraction, but here's the kicker: You know actual game.

It puts you way ahead of everyone else. You know how to subtly escalate with eye contact and choice of words. You can throw just a little bit of flirt every now and then. You know how not to overdo it, and make her feel unconfortable. You know how to not be a creep. You're there because you enjoy the activity/project you're doing. You're having fun.

Women are ususally very sensitive to flirtatious signals. Even if they're not, it will come off as totally congruent when you finally ask her out.

Talk to everybody. Customer service people are great to practice this on. It's enough to say one extra thing. Tell the clerk in grocery store what you're going to cook. Comment on a product you're buying. Compliment the person on their shirt. It can be anything

It doesn't matter what you say. You only need to say one thing. Saying the next thing becomes much easier after that first initial step. Try your best to make it a habit. If you fall off the wagon, it's no biggie. It's an easy wagon to get back on to.

This can lead to all kinds of stuff. Similar thing happened with two separate girls who worked in our Uni cafeteria. Keep in mind that I got to know these girls during a different time periods. There was no overlap whatsoever.

Every time I paid my luch I stroke up a little conversation. We created comfort, trust and even some inside jokes over time. Our relationship was purely based on this small customer service transaction and our small little chats. "What did you do this weekend? Guess what I did..." Very light and platonic with the occasional little flirtation.

Eventually they both got transferred to somewhere else. On their last week they both said the same thing: "I'm changing to other cafeteria next week, you know. We might never see each other again". A very obvious hint for me to ask her out or change contact info.

The twist is that I didn't.

Even while I totally got the hint and the girls were hot. The reason for this was that I simply didn't want to take either one of them on a date. I got to know them a little bit a during our conversations and just decided that they were not date material. If I take a girl to a date, it means I'm at least somewhat interested in what she has to say. If I'm not interested about that, it feels incongruent to try to get them to my bed. Neither of these girls were interesting on an actual conversational level. I simply didn't want to spend time with them.

Even if you're into pickup and horny as hell, it doesn't mean you have to fuck everything that moves. High value men have high standards. I've brought physically unattractive girls to my bed just because they were actually sexy on another level.

Travel often. Bonus points for travelling alone. Every girl loves travelling and loves to talk about it. Travelling alone makes you grow and discover yourself. It's also very easy to hookup with other solo travellers.

When you think of something, make it real. When you think of something that might be fun, go and do it. I'm referring especially things you have never done before

Most important thing: fuck excuses.

Do you think you're too old or clumsy to start rollerblading/salsa/skijumping/whatever? Go and try it out. You'll get an experience. Experience is almost the definition of life. Experience is one of the most precious things you can ever get during your short existence.

Conclusion: None of these strategies directly get someone to sleep with you. They are just strategies to create a lifestyle where you are in proximity of hot girls.

Who knows, you might even end up becoming a well rounded individual.

[–]jabbawolfenstien 9 years ago [recovered] (5 children) | Copy Link

[–]ThankY0u 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

[–]jabbawolfenstien 9 years ago [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

[–]ThankY0u 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks for the ecouraging feedback. I'm going to publish my field report about last night soon, so stay tuned. Not a great night but a couple of good revelations.

About NLP: I'm no expert but I do believe it works to an extent. I know many people who are very into it. I'm not sure I like it though.

Correct me if I'm wrong. Neurolinguistic programming aims to affect other people's decicion making and behaviour by utilizing subconcious patterns. This sound a lot like manipulation. It's like dark side of the force type of stuff.

I understand that it's not magic, and you cannot persuade someone to sleep with you who doesn't find you sexually attractive on some level. That being said I think that NLP is high level stuff. You need to have the fundamentals down pretty damn solid until NLP tricks start to give good results. I'm nowhere near there yet. Especially for club game.

What's your background in pickup? How advanced are you? I'm very solid on social circle game, but a total noob on night and day game. By day game I mean cold approach in public places. I'll go more in depth on my background in my upcoming field report.

[–]ThankY0u 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

[–]jabbawolfenstien1 point 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link