Decline of manufacturing in Canada due to pro-corporate trade deals. Disproportionately impacting men. And of course even though male wages continue to fall, men are still expected to be providers (read ATMs)

Aaod · 2020-01-17T17:56:05+00:00

The switch away from a culture and economy that produces stuff to a service based culture has FUCKED men because men are more interested in that instead of service oriented stuff. This isn't even getting into what it has done to the economy.

Oncefa2 · 2020-01-17T20:24:53+00:00

I'm generally a supporter of this kind of "modernization" of the economy. But I do think something should be done about men who are falling behind as it happens.

During the Bush era economic recessions, men lost jobs and wages at much higher rates than women, but almost all the government intervention to try and support the economy focused on women.

Obama even identified traditional male sectors of the economy as being especially impacted by the recession, and wanted to provide government assistance to those people and industries. But feminists (IIRC) argued that we could ignore all of that and give the money to traditional female sectors of the economy.

That's the kind of stuff that gets lost in these conversations. You can let the free market decide. You can advocate for socialism. You can even advocate for tariffs and things like that. But if you are going to provide help and assistance, then at least help the people who need it the most. And in this case, it's men. Why are we helping women and propping up female industries more than we are men and male industries, when men are the ones who are suffering the most? That is what doesn't make sense and that is what I would like to see stop.

jmdenn3000 · 2020-01-18T12:16:19+00:00

Men would benefit tremendously from universal basic income, as far as easing the provider pressure related to the male gender role. Plus we have to admit, with this only being a preview of the job loss we'll experiance with further automation, it's going to get worse. Edited to add content

plitox_is_a_bitch · 2020-01-18T16:16:22+00:00

I've always found it quite...coincidental...that the decline of wages in developed nations just so happened to occur at the same time a bunch of people who didn't need to work were allowed to dabble in the workforce...

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