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| 2 | How to dismiss the argument that we should focus on women's issues before tackling men's onesIntersectional Marxism doesn't make any sense. Part of the core philosophy of Marxism is that all forms of oppression, be it racism, sexism, or anything else, comes from class based oppression. It is a single issues ideology that justifies this single issue on the basis that other things will be fixed as a side-effect of class and economic exploitation no longer being a thing. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/05/23 03:51 PM |
| 2 | Did women and children die more on ships historically? Paper shows that women and children had lower survival rates, concludes "men only protected other men". I don't see any causation.It reminds me a lot of race studies which used to be an accepted academic topic. | /r/MensRights | 28/05/23 08:43 AM |
| 21 | Did women and children die more on ships historically? Paper shows that women and children had lower survival rates, concludes "men only protected other men". I don't see any causation.That paper had a lot of issues. I can't find where we discussed it in the past but I remember one issue was a selective inclusion of data. Like they literally cherry picked cases where women died more than men and ONLY included those cases, leaving out a majority of the data set. Many of those cases also followed a pattern with some kind of historical significance. Like 99% of the passengers were men and there might have been one or two women on them. Back when sailing was considered so dangerou… | /r/MensRights | 27/05/23 10:43 PM |
| 17 | Panopticon of iffinessI wish you the best in sociology. Psychology isn't as bad because at a certain point there are established facts and science that contradict a lot of what feminists believe in. But there is resistance to studying men / masculinity in any kind of positive light. When the male psychology network petitioned to be added to the British Psychological Society (where they already had a group specialising in women), I think upwards of 30% to 40% of the members voted against it. Check out r/MalePsychology… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/05/23 04:18 PM |
| 14 | Panopticon of iffinessIt reminds me of Christians claiming to be persecuted despite being the ones who do most of the persecution in a lot of the world. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/05/23 04:10 PM |
| 9 | Why isn't there a male-only space that accepts feminine men?This is what I really liked about the bropill thing. Except they kept going and stopped accepting masculine men. So now you have a community "for men" that only accepts women, fem presenting lgbt, and cis "feminine" men who are "feminist allies". So it kind of swung the pendulum completely to the other side. The regular "bro" culture that inspired bropill seems pretty cool though. | /r/MenSupportMen | 23/05/23 08:25 PM |
| 3 | The "male housework list" or "honey do list" (the second shift) | Sources from Dr. Warren FarrellI'm not sure about the downvotes. I agree it's a big issue, and is probably not discussed as much as it should be. Think about it though: most married men don't have the time to talk about their lived experiences. Not even briefly on Reddit. Specifically because this issue monopolises their time in the first place. My theory as to why we've never seen a larger men's movement or anything like "masculism" is the same thing. Guys are too busy working and supporting society to go protest anything. T… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/05/23 04:45 PM |
| 17 | George Orwell on Male DisposabilityOrwell also noticed the disproportionate rate of male homelessness, long before we had official figures about that. Many people think he was kind of like an MRA. I haven't seen a whole lot of this expanded on the way we have with some other historical thinkers though. From Down and Out in Paris and London, I propounded to myself the question, “What is the easiest way to get money without working?” And immediately the answer came: “To get money easily one must be a woman. Has not every woman some… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/05/23 07:08 AM |
| 26 | The "male housework list" or "honey do list" (the second shift) | Sources from Dr. Warren FarrellJust so you know there is a female equivalent to this list. It was made by a radical feminist and published in The Second Shift. Farrell reproduced it in his book, and then made his own list for men. Kind of like as a response to the radical feminist argument that women do twice as much as men. One thing I have seen, and agree with, is that many of the male tasks aren't as frequent as some of the female tasks. I think this is valid, but there is certainly a handful of things in the list that are… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/05/23 10:36 PM |
| 6 | Has anyone ever noticed how society obsesses over men treating women right, but there's very little discussion about women treating men right?Poe's law might be applicable here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law [W]ithout a clear indicator of the author's intent, any parodic or sarcastic expression of extreme views can be mistaken by some readers for a sincere expression of those views. | /r/MensRights | 21/05/23 02:50 PM |
| 83 | The "male housework list" or "honey do list" (the second shift) | Sources from Dr. Warren FarrellOne observation by Farrell is that many of these tasks happen outside the home, which makes the word housework itself kind of biased. That's actually one of the (many) flaws with Arlie Hochschild's analysis. (She also tried to compare part-time working women with full-time working men, as if working part-time was somehow the same as working full-time...) | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/05/23 01:39 PM |
| 56 | Has anyone ever noticed how society obsesses over men treating women right, but there's very little discussion about women treating men right?In this context, feminism isn't really all that "progressive". It's just a modern version of what we would have probably called chivalry a hundred years ago. I know that if you go back far enough, that's not what the word chivalry actually meant. But that is clearly how the word is used today. And Victorian era society definitely had something like a code of chivalry for men, even if it wasn't called that. So we're really not all that different today. We just call it "feminism" or being "woke" i… | /r/MensRights | 21/05/23 01:28 PM |
| 1 | Giving money or time to the causeThere are some listed here with some information about each one: https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/wiki/maleadvocacyorganizations/ | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/05/23 12:45 PM |
| 10 | Practical discussion thread"Everyone" usually means "everyone but men" to a lot of these people. Sometimes it even means "everyone who presents fem and nb", leaving out quite a bit of the LGBT community (I guess you should call it the LBT community?). | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/05/23 03:34 PM |
| 92 | Starting to experience the effects of being posted in an "Are we dating the same guy?" FB groupThere's an entire paid industry for this now. Apps marketed to women to get (or give) dirt on men. Usually to be petty or get back at a guy. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/05/23 12:05 PM |
| 13 | Starting to experience the effects of being posted in an "Are we dating the same guy?" FB groupAlso, if these women are just going to take the word of random Internet strangers over their experience with you, they’re not worth your time. What happens when that's literally 90% of women his age? It seems kind of like you're turning this around on OP and other guys to just take it or "man up". | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/05/23 12:04 PM |
| 6 | LWMA Lounge15k members 🌏 | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/05/23 12:29 PM |
| 3 | Taylor Siwft's "You Belong with me" is simply complaints men have about women but since it is gender flipped it is respected and celebrated instead of mockedWhich ones? The ones who hate men, or the ones who hate trans people? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/23 07:49 PM |
| 1 | Being negative and defeatist is harming the movement. We need to focus on our accomplishments and make sure people know where to go if they want to help.I agree with your point. I do think the "individual issues" approach can help us get there though. By at least getting people to talk about the issues, when otherwise the discussion would be shut down completely. Basically, I think it can be a useful strategy, depending on the situation. It creates a stepping block for something better. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/05/23 08:58 PM |
| 3 | Being negative and defeatist is harming the movement. We need to focus on our accomplishments and make sure people know where to go if they want to help.I think there's a strong element of like factual correctness, or skepticism, in the movement. Kind of like how skeptics disagree with common religious truths and instead "believe" in evolution and things like that. We disagree with the common dogmas of the radical feminist "religion" (like the widely debunked wage gap), often for no other reason than facts and analytical thinking. Of course just like organised religion, feminism has done both good and bad in this world. You also have hardcore fu… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/05/23 12:47 PM |
| 4 | Being negative and defeatist is harming the movement. We need to focus on our accomplishments and make sure people know where to go if they want to help.I think it's often not conceptualised that way. It's an issue of ignorance though, not hostility. The hostility you're used to seeing comes from radical feminists. And even that's mainly on the internet where they're anonymous and can hide from judgement. They do run feminist lobbying groups IRL, and they should be ashamed of what they're doing. But a lot of the hostility goes away if you can focus on individual issues instead of just "men have things worse and need a movement like feminism". To… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/05/23 12:39 PM |
| 5 | Being negative and defeatist is harming the movement. We need to focus on our accomplishments and make sure people know where to go if they want to help.I never implied that it was. You can support whatever initiatives and communities you want to support. I just figured since I posted this here I'd mention this sub instead. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/05/23 12:32 PM |
| – | Crazy ex-girlfriends (or boyfriends) aren't crazy. They're abusive. Calling them crazy downplays the seriousness of their actions.Nice! This is from the LWMA Reddit wiki: https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/wiki/support ManKind Initiative, Tel 01823 334244, weekdays 10am to 4pm https://www.mankind.org.uk/ Families Need Fathers (FNF), Tel 0300 0300 363, weekdays 9am - 10pm Monday - Friday and from 10am - 3pm on weekends https://fnf.org.uk/ Abused Men in Scotland (AMIS), Tel 03300 949 395, 9am – 4pm, Monday to Friday https://abusedmeninscotland.org/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/23 11:31 PM |
| 45 | Being negative and defeatist is harming the movement. We need to focus on our accomplishments and make sure people know where to go if they want to help.I'll give a few examples. Male domestic violence victims are ignored and ridiculed. There is no help for victims, and feminist groups have stood in the way of progress for decades. While this is certainly true, I think it helps to point out that there are a handful of resources out there for male victims. And basically all of them are ran by MRAs. We need to give those people credit for standing up and trying to do something. And we need to emphasize that the MRM has fought against this problem,… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/05/23 11:15 PM |
| – | Crazy ex-girlfriends (or boyfriends) aren't crazy. They're abusive. Calling them crazy downplays the seriousness of their actions.Reach out to a men's rights group, like the national coalition for men, for example. They can probably help you guys. If you tell me what country you're in, I can make some recommendations. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/23 09:25 PM |
| – | Crazy ex-girlfriends (or boyfriends) aren't crazy. They're abusive. Calling them crazy downplays the seriousness of their actions.I see well I apologize then. It's unfortunate, but what can I say? Most people who talk about feminism in those subs are talking about the radicals. Which if you haven't noticed, is most people who call themselves feminists these days. Especially online. I think the confusion is understandable. Maybe I have thick skin so I know they're not talking about me? I still wouldn't put labels over concrete actions and ideas. Like do you identify as a feminist? In a similar way that many Christians ident… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/23 09:23 PM |
| – | Crazy ex-girlfriends (or boyfriends) aren't crazy. They're abusive. Calling them crazy downplays the seriousness of their actions.If you think we live in a patriarchy then you are not a dictionary definition feminist. That's really what the problem is. People who care about equality are necessarily opposed to radical feminist ideology. You're a wolf in sheep's clothing. A radical feminist trying to pose as a moderate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/23 09:17 PM |
| 2 | Crazy ex-girlfriends (or boyfriends) aren't crazy. They're abusive. Calling them crazy downplays the seriousness of their actions.To the extent that feminism just means "gender equality", I think most of the MRA subs count as feminist subs. Any good feminist should therefore feel at home there. Are you like offended when people criticize (radical / "patriarchy") feminism? That is, again, something that a true "dictionary definition" feminist should be able to jive with. Radical feminism is overtly sexist and represents an obstacle against gender equality. Any good feminist should criticize that along with other "MRAs". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/23 01:14 AM |
| 2 | Crazy ex-girlfriends (or boyfriends) aren't crazy. They're abusive. Calling them crazy downplays the seriousness of their actions.That's such a terrible sub. They had an AMA from a feminist one time who un-ironically blamed domestic violence of "the patriarchy" and then proceeded to say that men are mainly victimised by other men (because to say otherwise contradicts the radical feminist notion of patriarchy). Feminism is great but you have to watch out for radical feminism (patriarchy theory and all that) which is all over that sub, unfortunately. I'd recommend r/leftwingmaleadvocates instead. There's a lot of great conte… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/23 09:12 PM |
| 3 | Crazy ex-girlfriends (or boyfriends) aren't crazy. They're abusive. Calling them crazy downplays the seriousness of their actions.If all of your exes are abusive, the problem probably lies with you tbh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/23 09:10 PM |
| 2 | Crazy ex-girlfriends (or boyfriends) aren't crazy. They're abusive. Calling them crazy downplays the seriousness of their actions.A lot of women use it in a kind of opposite manner these days to exaggerate disagreements with their SOs. A bf who disagrees with his gf gets called a gaslighter and an abuser. It's like men minimise things and women exaggerate things. I think in psychology they actually have term for this gender norm -- gamma bias, IIRC. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/23 09:08 PM |
| 5 | Crazy ex-girlfriends (or boyfriends) aren't crazy. They're abusive. Calling them crazy downplays the seriousness of their actions.Feminists protested the opening of a new shelter in Toronto basically in his memory. They continue to try to slander the group as a "reactionary right wing hate group". But if you look at them, all they've done is lobby to get a few laws changed, open a few men's centres, and host mental health awareness events (again basically in Earl Silverman's honor). Feminists go to those events and yell "patriarchy" at people btw. Yet somehow it's the "MRAs" (men's rights people) who are the bad guys in al… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/23 07:30 PM |
| 0 | Crazy ex-girlfriends (or boyfriends) aren't crazy. They're abusive. Calling them crazy downplays the seriousness of their actions.I agree with the premise of your comment, but the examples you gave are actually abusive behaviours. There was quite literally a court trial not too long ago that involved a woman pooping in places that she shouldn't have been... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/23 04:12 PM |
| 7 | Crazy ex-girlfriends (or boyfriends) aren't crazy. They're abusive. Calling them crazy downplays the seriousness of their actions.I guess my contention is that a lot of people use the word crazy when what they're describing is literally abusive. Like slashing your tires, yelling at you, or even trying to murder you (I've seen this in movies, the guy refers to a gf who tried to kill him as a crazy b*). A friend of mine has gone to work with a black eye from his wife before. If you talk to him, she's crazy, not abusive. And she might have legitimate mental issues as well. Just because you have mental issues to blame your act… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/23 03:54 PM |
| 7 | Crazy ex-girlfriends (or boyfriends) aren't crazy. They're abusive. Calling them crazy downplays the seriousness of their actions.Women do the same thing but use the word "abuse" instead. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/23 03:42 PM |
| 7 | Dr John Harry and The Centre for Male PsychologyCheck out r/MalePsychology. It's not just him btw. The Centre for Male Psychology is also ran by Louise Liddon (a woman), and a few other people. There are also names outside of that space, like Rob Whitley, who are worth looking into. https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-030-86320-3 The BPS has some good resources, too: https://cms.bps.org.uk/sites/default/files/2022-11/Practice%20Briefing%20-%20psychological%20interventions%20to%20help%20male%20adults.pdf The APA stuff is actually old … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/05/23 11:27 AM |
| 11 | Abraham Lincoln used female pen names to attack political rivals, from which he could slander them as "unpopular with women", among other thingsI would argue that it is downright misogynistic to say that women were passive pawns in history with no agency. In fact, there are women's rights advocates, and even suffragette leaders, who have made that very argument: https://www.marxists.org/archive/beard/woman-force/index.htm | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/05/23 11:19 AM |
| 11 | Abraham Lincoln used female pen names to attack political rivals, from which he could slander them as "unpopular with women", among other thingsSure! http://nationalhumanitiescenter.org/pds/gilded/power/text12/antisuffrageassoc.pdf There's more scholarship out there. But here is an original pamphlet where part of their reasoning refers to the special position of women existing outside of politics. Edit: Courtesy of u/lumen-lotus. "Never A Fight of Woman Against Man: What Textbooks Don't Say about Women's Suffrage" https://www.jstor.org/stable/24810524 | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/05/23 11:10 AM |
| 15 | Abraham Lincoln used female pen names to attack political rivals, from which he could slander them as "unpopular with women", among other thingsYou know it's interesting how feminists give lip service to the patriarchy also harming men and privileging women. But they never actually talk about how and why that happens. Then when someone else comes along and basically does exactly that, they recoil and engage in apologetics. Could you not add a couple references to the patriarchy, and then present this as a great example for how the patriarchy doesn't always harm women? Also, why do you never see feminists engaged in original scholarship … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/05/23 01:42 AM |
| 5 | My therapist responded to me, I'm not sure how to interpret his response about my opening up to him, so I'd like to share it here and get some input.What he's focusing on is the fact that this bothers you. And of course it bothers you. You're not defective or "wrong" for being bothered by it. But you can't really change the fact that some people won't like you. You can try all you want, get in shape, wear nice clothes, and do everything right, and some people will still think you're creepy. That's just how it is. But if you want a girlfriend, hopefully that person wouldn't find you creepy. Just like not everyone will like you, not everyone w… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/05/23 03:47 PM |
| 9 | Anti-male gender bias deters men from healthcare, early education, and domestic career fields, study suggestsLink to study: https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2023-29854-001 | /r/MalePsychology | 02/05/23 05:51 PM |
| 2 | Exploring Gender Bias in Six Key Domains of Academic Science: An Adversarial CollaborationThat sounds like the making of a good documentary. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/05/23 12:17 PM |
| 3 | Gender biases in our narratives about historyYeah that's literally what I said earlier. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/05/23 11:43 AM |
| 1 | Gender biases in our narratives about historyCan you find one counterexample? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/05/23 11:30 AM |
| 2 | Gender biases in our narratives about historyGender norms arose out of necessity, not a hatred for women. Women didn't do everything men did because they actually couldn't. You try working in the mines with children hanging from your teat. Any woman who tried would probably be scolded for letting their children starve to death anyway. Hopefully the husband would care enough to work for her so she could stay home and keep their children alive. You might call that misogyny, but the other side of it is child abuse. And that was only because m… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/05/23 11:23 AM |
| 3 | Exploring Gender Bias in Six Key Domains of Academic Science: An Adversarial CollaborationI copied your summary for a post on r/StupIDPol. I wasn't sure about their policy for tagging people so I didn't credit you (I just said someone else wrote it was all). I hope you don't mind... It's currently stickied (like this one). | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/05/23 10:33 PM |
| 12 | Gender biases in our narratives about historyToday that's true. But we didn't always used to have birth control and baby formula. The reality is it's hard to work the fields (or run a country) when you're 9 months pregnant, or breastfeeding. Especially if that's a regular thing in your life because you're having 10+ kids on average to make up for infant mortality. Much of the "oppression" that feminists think they see in history is just biology (with men working twice as much to literally pick up the slack for women, which they ignore). Th… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/04/23 04:57 PM |
| 15 | Gender biases in our narratives about historyI've been noticing this a lot recently. There was some kind of genetic analysis of the pre Mongolian empire recently. And they were talking about how they could deduce that women were part of the ruling class in Mongolia, and treated well, which was "surprising". And I'm just like, why is that surprising? Even if it's less common, it's not like it was actually rare. We're probably talking like one standard deviation at most across history. Martin van Crevald's The Privileged Sex is a really good… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/04/23 10:41 AM |
| 46 | Gender biases in our narratives about historyThere were other crimes against religion besides witchcraft. Blasphemy, heresy, sodomy, etc. And the people persecuted for that were almost exclusively male. Yet the one, single category where women were victims is the only one we really talk about today in this context. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/04/23 03:03 AM |
| 91 | Gender biases in our narratives about historyA small note about feminism: There is often this question about why a lot of MRAs seem to have an issue with feminism. For example, shouldn't we just be talking about men? Why do we care what feminists are doing? Well right here you can see a great example of a pretty big problem in society. One of the more harmful traditional gender stereotypes is this belief that men had things great in history, whereas women were discriminated against and treated unfairly. And what we see are (some) feminists… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/04/23 01:06 AM |
| 12 | A new lens I found on the sentencing gapThere are numerous cases in history where women convicted of crimes got pregnant on purpose for leniency. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. It has led, in at least one case, to a murderer going complete free while a male accomplice was hung. (I'm trying really hard to find this for you but Google is terrible with these search terms). I think the "excuse" of being a mother does get weaponised, for a lack of a better word. Like how some people use children as a substitute for needing to ha… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/04/23 11:41 AM |
| 16 | A new lens I found on the sentencing gapThe potential for motherhood definitely plays into the women are wonderful effect. On some level it's likely at the root of it. We innately associate women with reproductive ability. Often even if they can't technically get pregnant. But when pregnancy is involved, this instinct gets dialed up 10 fold. If there's something people care more about than women and children, it's mothers and unborn children. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/04/23 11:38 AM |
| 2 | On Being a Male in Female Spaces: A Personal Investigation into Misandry in Modern PsychologyIt depends on what your goals are and how you handle things. Most people IRL are pleasant and don't let their ideological biases come out too far. So if you're worried about feminists, think of it more like a religion. Kind of like how Muslims and Christians can come together and agree that God is real and morals are important. You can agree that equality is important and that men's issues (and male mental health issues) are important, just like women's issues. With a bit of humility and patienc… | /r/MalePsychology | 29/04/23 03:02 AM |
| 1 | The struggle of being in trans spaces as a manI get the impression that they want to "own the libs", and trans people are the battle ground, in a really terrible way. Like with gay people it was funny to them because they couldn't imagine that two dudes could have sex. So they could laugh at libs with all their bravado and stuff. Now it's the same thing with trans people. I won't elaborate because I'm sure you know. But I think that's a big part of it. It's honestly similar to radfems who want to feel morally superior to everyone else. So t… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/04/23 11:48 PM |
| 3 | LWMA LoungeThe NCFM and GIBM both claim to be global. The NCFM is probably more global then any others. They have centres in many countries around the world. https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/wiki/maleadvocacyorganizations/ Consider donating 😊 | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/04/23 08:29 PM |
| 9 | On Being a Male in Female Spaces: A Personal Investigation into Misandry in Modern Psychology100 years ago, psychology was dominated by men who often had a questionable understanding of women. But today, we are starting to slide in the other direction. In the US, more than 70% of new psychologists are women. And in the UK, more than 80% of practicing psychologists are women. So what is it like for men working in female dominated professions? And what about their patients? One male psychologist speaks up about his experiences being "othered" as "one of the good men". A sentiment he was i… | /r/MalePsychology | 28/04/23 02:23 PM |
| 3 | Therapists to talk about men's issues or the current state of men's issues in therapy spaces.I really wish there was more acknowledgement that the old diagnosis of female hysteria tracks pretty closely to PMDD, a real disorder recognised to affect millions of women around the world. Many of the treatments they used back then have today been proven to work. I'm sure it was mired in misogyny at the time, but I think people did care and want to help. We just didn't have the medical understanding at the time to know what was happening. That's a really good article though regardless. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/04/23 11:32 AM |
| 5 | Therapists to talk about men's issues or the current state of men's issues in therapy spaces.You can always ask ahead of time if they're a feminist, or request that they find someone who isn't. I had a couple ask this when they were looking for a relationship therapist. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/04/23 11:26 AM |
| 8 | Men are 57% of all rape victims and women are most of their rapists, per CDC data. Feminist propaganda about rape is false.There is other research in the series. Combined together it's about a 40/60 split (40% of victims being men). Mainly because of one year that had quite a bit fewer male victims than the other years (2016 IIRC). There's some other research corroborating this as well, from sources that aren't the CDC. One user called problem redditor posted a bunch of research from like Saudi Arabia and all around the world. And it was all at least 40%+. Do a search on it in this sub. | /r/MensRights | 28/04/23 03:41 AM |
| 35 | Self-sacrifice as a masculine virtueThere's a part of the brain that deals with fear and confidence called the BNST. Neurons in that region respond to testosterone, and it's about twice the size in men as it is in women (trans men also have a male typical presentations on MRIs, leading some to believe that it has something to do with gender identity as well). I'm not a fan of biological determinism. And I like where you said that we should remind men that they shouldn't be forced to self-sacrifice when they don't want to. Because … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/04/23 12:00 PM |
| 9 | Earl Silverman: 10 years onI do think there's a good amount of support. Like when someone needs advice or resources. Or when calls for activism are made. I've seen people come together for some of that. The government petition to get female-on-male assault legally recognised got a lot of support, for example. Or even here the mods created r/mensupportmen, which as a community is doing really well. But you can be the change you want to see. After all, what is this if not complaining ;). | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/04/23 06:47 PM |
| 20 | UK: Government confirms misogyny will not be made a hate crime.The other part of this was their refusal to add misandry as a hate crime. Even for race we have hate crimes against whites. It's rare that it happens again whites, but it is legally a thing, and US FBI stats track that. The UK should follow that and make it universal. If misandry really doesn't happen that much, then why does it matter? Make it a hate crime, on the books, as a concession to add it for women. If it's a good thing to add for women then it can only be a good thing to add it for men… | /r/MensRights | 26/04/23 03:08 PM |
| 13 | Earl Silverman: 10 years onThere are concern trolls. It's unfortunate but some people get defensive, and for good reason. I appreciate your attitude though. I've been working on a post about this actually. Not in a critical way, just to kind of point out that having a positive attitude about things would help. People need to know that the men's movement is a viable solution to these problems, and that there is reason to be hopeful. After all, nobody is going to give us a shot if our philosophy is, "everything sucks and no… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/04/23 01:36 PM |
| 3 | The "male housework list" or "honey do list" (the second shift) | Sources from Dr. Warren FarrellIt do be like that sometimes. Then we have what is basically gaslighting in society to deny this. Or even claim that it's misogynistic to talk about. For men to express themselves and speak out about it. When really it's a gender issue, or gender norm. Like let's go ahead and tear down the patriarchy! And let's start by smashing this abusive attitude that women have about men and chores! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/23 12:51 PM |
| 2 | Masculinity is inherently pro-social, not toxic: Moving past hegemonic masculinity and into responsive masculinityMarxist class theory suggests that they do. That of course removes gender from the equation. Which is kind of the point tbh. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/04/23 12:46 PM |
| 26 | Earl Silverman: 10 years onMRAs on Reddit helped raise money for what is kind of like a spiritual successor to Silverman's refuge. https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/nfbzrs/telling_our_story_earl_silverman_cafe_and_the/ That post documents some fundraising activity on r/MensRights. But this sub also had a post asking for donations when they expanded not too long ago. I think I remember them hitting $50k from r/MensRights out of maybe a $500k need (CAD), which they did reach from other sources, but don't quote me… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/04/23 12:03 PM |
| 16 | What are your guys’ thoughts on the whole “men are more likely to divorce their partners if they develop an illness or disability” thinghttps://np.reddit.com/r/UnpopularFacts/comments/qnp5qh/the_claim_men_leave_their_sick_spouse_more_is/ https://pastebin.com/5PABS4c3 | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/04/23 11:54 AM |
| 18 | What are your guys’ thoughts on the whole “men are more likely to divorce their partners if they develop an illness or disability” thingHere's a related Harvard study about women leaving when men have a reduction in income. It pairs with other research showing that women get with men who have money. https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/akillewald/files/money_work_and_marital_stability.pdf One interesting finding is that men don't leave women who refuse to cook and clean. The selection pressure is almost entirely on a man's ability to earn money for his wife. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/04/23 11:51 AM |
| 1 | YSK: Psychologists want you to stop using the phrase "toxic masculinity"Anywhere between 1 in 7 men and 1 in 10 men are victims of false accusations. For women it's between (approximately) 1 in 15 and 1 in 20. It's less than assault numbers but it's not negligible. http://www.saveservices.org/dv/falsely-accused/survey/ http://www.prosecutorintegrity.org/pr/survey-over-20-million-have-been-falsely-accused-of-abuse/ There's psychology research into why people falsify this kind of stuff. It's tantamount to science denialism to act like it's not something that happens. | /r/MalePsychology | 26/04/23 11:43 AM |
| 15 | Masculinity is inherently pro-social, not toxic: Moving past hegemonic masculinity and into responsive masculinityThis theory is descriptive. It's not saying men should be this way to be good men. Just that a lot of men are this way. It also relies on many of the premises of hegemonic masculinity. So if you disagree with that (which I assume many people here do), then it's more of a thought experiment. Like, to the extent that you think men are competitive and domineering, it's because they love people and are providing for them. Not because they're selfish, as the original idea behind hegemonic masculinity… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/04/23 02:13 AM |
| 17 | Masculinity is inherently pro-social, not toxic: Moving past hegemonic masculinity and into responsive masculinityI agree. It's not like it's forced, but it can be taken advantage of. Who knows how much of this stuff is biology, and how much is society? The point is that on the outside, the outcomes of this, and hegemonic masculinity, are the same. It just looks a lot different as a driver. And I think it's a lot more fair to men phrased this way than the other way. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/04/23 12:38 AM |
| 18 | Feminism Against Progress, Pt 2: review by thoughtful & well-read MRA Dr Rick Bradford of Mary Harrington's book. The book prompts him to make general observations on problems feminism has caused and the way forward. Unlike much of his work, doesn't have lots of statistics. Some extracts in commentsA feminist publication I saw argued that men have always accepted women in the workforce with open arms, and even encouraged them to join because they liked working with them. It was a socialist feminist who was attacking the radical feminist position that we live in a patriarchy. Back before radical feminism / patriarchy theory became the norm in the movement. She researched this and found a lot of evidence for philogyny in the workplace. Sue Clegg (1997) The feminist challenge to socialist his… | /r/MensRights | 25/04/23 06:43 AM |
| 2 | The "male housework list" or "honey do list" (the second shift) | Sources from Dr. Warren Farrell💯 I'm a marriage and family therapist. This is part of what I tell my clients. In my own house I took over the dishes because I was tired of them being cramped in so tight they wouldn't get clean. And then having our sink running over so that there wasn't room to use it. It used to be she would load and I would unload. But I was reloading half the dishes each time. And what's funny is she was running it on high (which takes forever) wondering why they didn't get clean. I can run it on low or nor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/23 10:50 PM |
| 0 | The "male housework list" or "honey do list" (the second shift) | Sources from Dr. Warren FarrellWell I took over the dishes because I thought I could do them better. I won't preach my method (I kind of explained it already) but in retrospect that's not how most people do it. We do eat out a good bit but we also both cook. I'm the only one that cleans while I cook 🤷♀️. Cleaning the kitchen takes longer than the dishes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/23 10:31 PM |
| 1 | The "male housework list" or "honey do list" (the second shift) | Sources from Dr. Warren FarrellUh no there's four of us and we keep the dishwasher unloaded for new dishes. I know a lot of people let dishes pile up for days and then spend half an hour (I guess?) doing them. But if you regularly load and unload it then it does not take very much time at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/23 09:14 PM |
| -4 | The "male housework list" or "honey do list" (the second shift) | Sources from Dr. Warren FarrellDishes take 5 minutes top. You just have to remember to them. I do the dishes at home so I know how much work it is. I was literally just heating something up on a 2 minute timer and loaded all the dishes in that time. It only takes a long time if you include the time the dishwasher runs for. Or if you're just really bad it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/23 04:13 PM |
| 4 | The "male housework list" or "honey do list" (the second shift) | Sources from Dr. Warren FarrellIf your browse parenting or Mom subreddits, dissatisfaction comes through when women are taking care of kids all day plus cooking and cleaning and shopping and are basically on 7 days a week, 7-10, and their husbands just chill out and play video games when home, or go out with friends. Mom and Dad need the same amount of leisure time. The opposite happens with men. You're acting like this is a universal thing that all mothers experience when the data and statistics show otherwise. That's what W… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/23 04:07 PM |
| 2 | The "male housework list" or "honey do list" (the second shift) | Sources from Dr. Warren FarrellSome of the statistics I quoted are like 20 to 30 years old. It is aging. But I have seen modern statistics that still trend in that direction. Most men who work full time, work more than 40 hours a week. Most women who work full time work less than 40 hours a week. So full time does not mean "equal", even today. That's not to say that many couples are equal (definitely more than 20 years ago), and I definitely applaud that progress. My girlfriend works the same hours as me, for example (althoug… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/23 12:13 PM |
| 3 | The "male housework list" or "honey do list" (the second shift) | Sources from Dr. Warren FarrellI've been consistently surprised by the number of women who can't open jars. Growing up my mom always had hand grips and would open jars. So that was my normal. But I honestly don't think I've met a single woman, besides her, who could consistently open jars. It's not a big deal but I think it goes unappreciated when you're upstairs chillin and have to get up and down cause she can't open something. Even when you've bought the hand grips for her 😅. Meanwhile you leave her alone while she's relax… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/23 11:50 AM |
| 2 | The "male housework list" or "honey do list" (the second shift) | Sources from Dr. Warren FarrellBy the same token, women can start doing some of these other dangerous and stressful tasks, which currently are not automated. Something I've noticed is that there isn't much of a desire for women to pick up half that slack that men have traditionally carried. I mean I'll do the laundry and dishes, or even just half, if you do the trash and yard work (granted I actually do all of this now, besides folding laundry). I've literally suggested this to my girlfriend. She says no. Other women role the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/23 11:42 AM |
| 9 | The "male housework list" or "honey do list" (the second shift) | Sources from Dr. Warren FarrellMany things that we talk about women doing are also treated like hobbies. There's one example of this mentioned in the list (growing flowers). Even cooking can be a hobby. The reality is that some chores are gendered because some things men like doing more than women (or are better at), and vice versa. Not all chores are hobbies, and just because they're hobbies doesn't mean they're not important, or sometimes taxing. But you have kind of hit on something here, I think without realising it 😊. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/23 11:39 AM |
| 7 | The "male housework list" or "honey do list" (the second shift) | Sources from Dr. Warren FarrellSome of it depends on what your lifestyle is. It's not universal. More of "you probably didn't think of this one". Like people say guys don't cook. But then they forget about steaks, grilling, bbq, etc. But then maybe you never eat (or at least cook) any of that stuff. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/23 11:33 AM |
| 3 | Introducing r/MalePsychologyI understand what you're saying, but I didn't see anything anti-trans in the document. If anything, research like this mirrors earlier research into sexual orientation. Which settled the old debate about homosexuality being innate, or learned. Gender is (largely) biological not just in the sense that it's rooted in sex (which it often, factually, is). But also in the sense that hormones and brain structures can influence your gender identity. Meaning it's not a choice; you are born trans in the … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/04/23 07:32 PM |
| 108 | lack of sexual violence warning in Beau is AfraidThis reminds me of a murder mystery show I used to watch. Most of it was men being killed in the most brutal ways. But one episode had a woman being killed and the intro had this warning about violence against women that might be upsetting to some viewers. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/04/23 02:16 PM |
| 10 | How would you know if you are discriminating against men? — The Centre for Male PsychologyLook up patriarchal violence. And not just the term, but the idea itself. Which is that violence is primarily masculine, and that women who engage in violence are victims of the patriarchy removing their innocent femininity from them. This shows up everywhere in radical feminism. Both explicitly and implicitly. Bell Hooks, a well known radical feminist, taught this in her books and speeches. Look up Bell Hooks and see if you get any hits, for example. Radfems love her. Look to see how often they… | /r/MensRights | 23/04/23 01:34 PM |
| 6 | Introducing r/MalePsychologyIt's been interesting to watch some of the backlash against them recently. Psychology is unique among the social sciences in that it tries to actually follow the scientific method. But there's been a slow creep letting politics get further and further in, which has been quietly upsetting a lot of people. It's similar to the attitude that you see when right wing politics clash with science on issues like climate change and evolution (which is ironic now that left wing politics is also attacking e… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/04/23 10:40 AM |
| 26 | How would you know if you are discriminating against men? — The Centre for Male PsychologyThere are plenty of examples documented in this sub alone. Just use the search feature. Like you said originally, it's not an either or type of thing. One counterexample doesn't invalidate other examples. Examples where non-radical feminists agree with us btw. Domestic violence and sexual assault laws discriminate against men. And it's not hard to see where prominent radfems have left their mark in those areas and beyond. | /r/MensRights | 23/04/23 10:19 AM |
| 9 | Introducing r/MalePsychologyCheck out the intro of this book: https://www.wiley.com/en-ie/Perspectives+in+Male+Psychology:+An+Introduction-p-9781119685357 | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/04/23 10:16 AM |
| 27 | How would you know if you are discriminating against men? — The Centre for Male PsychologyI agree but sometimes bad actors do use legitimate issues to push their own agenda. And historically women and children have been used for those types of purposes. Probably more than any other. Even people like Hitler used the wellbeing of women and children as a political tool (so did Abraham Lincoln btw). Today there are radical feminists who use women's rights to oppress men. And it's not like people are blind to this. | /r/MensRights | 23/04/23 09:54 AM |
| 12 | Introducing r/MalePsychologyBanned might not be the best word. Chilling effect is more accurate. There was a push to see gender as unimportant, especially when talking about men. And going against this idea was met with a certain amount of resistance in a lot of places. Like why are you saying men and women are different? Why are you studying men? Are you sexist? Etc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chilling_effect | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/04/23 09:50 AM |
| 100 | How would you know if you are discriminating against men? — The Centre for Male PsychologyFrom r/MalePsychology: There are gender biases that make it difficult to recognize male suffering and discrimination for what it is. But are there signs of progress? Almost 50% of people globally believe that "We have gone so far in promoting women's equality that we are discriminating against men". What's more is younger people seem to be more likely to believe this than older people. Indicating that society might slowly be overcoming these biases. | /r/MensRights | 23/04/23 01:58 AM |
| 2 | Worth the Risk? Greater Acceptance of Instrumental Harm Befalling Men than Women - Archives of Sexual BehaviorThere's an article about this here: https://www.centreformalepsychology.com/male-psychology-magazine-listings/how-would-you-know-if-you-are-discriminating-against-men | /r/Male_Studies | 23/04/23 01:49 AM |
| 2 | How would you know if you are discriminating against men? — The Centre for Male PsychologyThere are gender biases that make it difficult to recognize male suffering and discrimination for what it is. But are there signs of progress? Almost 50% of people globally believe that "We have gone so far in promoting women's equality that we are discriminating against men". What's more is younger people seem to be more likely to believe this than older people. Indicating that society might slowly be overcoming these biases. | /r/MalePsychology | 23/04/23 01:47 AM |
| 12 | Introducing r/MalePsychologyThere is another community called r/Male_Studies which contains links to a bunch of research related to male psychology (under the psychology tag), so feel free to subscribe over there as well. I'm pretty sure they're part of the same LWMA "family" of subs. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/04/23 01:31 AM |
| 77 | The struggle of being in trans spaces as a manWhen this started happening to gay men, there was an explosion of gay men coming out as conservative. It correlated with a newish acceptance of gay people from conservatives, where the most homophobia you see is "don't rub sex stuff in our faces" (basically just prudishness, which has nothing to do with being gay or straight). I wonder how long it will take for trans men to start heading that direction. The LGBT movement is starting to not really represent the people they claim to represent. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/04/23 05:05 PM |
| 3 | NEWS: FBI documents reveal Men's Rights terminology like "MGTOW (Men Going Their Own Way)", as well as "Chad" and "Red Pill" are now being flagged and tracked as an indication of "Involuntary Celibate Violent Extremism" or "Racially or Ethnically Motivated Violent Extremism"The Boston bombers were SJWs concerned about racism, anti-Muslim sentiment, and US imperialism. Not that their actions helped their cause any. | /r/MensRights | 22/04/23 02:50 PM |
| 28 | Men are being gaslit into thinking they are misogynists and it’s destroying their mental healthThe fact that calling someone a misogynist carries so much weight, as an insult, says something about how much we actually tolerate it in society. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/04/23 10:07 PM |
| 7 | Circumcision of male infants as a human rights violationABSTRACT Every infant has a right to bodily integrity. Removing healthy tissue from an infant is only permissible if there is an immediate medical indication. In the case of infant male circumcision there is no evidence of an immediate need to perform the procedure. As a German court recently held, any benefit to circumcision can be obtained by delaying the procedure until the male is old enough to give his own fully informed consent. With the option of delaying circumcision providing all of the… | /r/Male_Studies | 21/04/23 08:25 PM |
| 8 | The modern rape hysteria culture is focused on shaming and demonizing men, not on helping actual rape victimsGood point. There's a really big intersections between this and racism. | /r/MensRights | 21/04/23 06:12 PM |
| 5 | Anyone here read “Why Women Have Better Sex Under Socialism” by Kristen GhodseeHe's criticizing feminist women (and men) and then implying that the female sex somehow attracts dumber women to feminism. Read in context he also says that not all women are dumb and attracted to feminism, but that maybe there is some gender reason why feminism is a thing (compared against an equivalent tendency for men to be attracted to masculinism). In the modern era we know that there are gender based in group biases that are particularly strong for women, and which also seems kind of "dumb… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/04/23 09:17 PM |
| 1 | Psychology experts are saying to not use the phrase toxic masculinity: it is a flawed concept, and likely harmful in a mental health contextCheck out r/MalePsychology. | /r/MensRights | 20/04/23 08:57 PM |
| 8 | Misogyny Is NOT Systemic Or Instutional. End Of Story.Yes that's exactly it. I think the language being used is imperfect. What's being said isn't necessarily incorrect. Women do face issues in society, including institutional barriers. I just don't see a lot of actual hatred for women. Even some feminists agree that the real issue for women is chivalry "going too far" instead of "people hating women". And I don't even think it has to be chivalry all the time, either. Humans are imperfect and make mistakes. So sometimes it might even be accidental,… | /r/MensRights | 20/04/23 12:08 PM |
| 15 | Misogyny Is NOT Systemic Or Instutional. End Of Story.One thing to note is that people oppose abortion because they support women and believe that's the best thing for them. Including around 50% of women themselves who think that having a baby is some kind of spiritual rite of passage. You can argue that restricting abortion harms women, and I would certainly agree. But people who support abortion do not intend to harm women. In other words, people already agree that we should support women. Nobody actually hates them. The question is, what's the b… | /r/MensRights | 20/04/23 11:41 AM |
| 18 | Misogyny Is NOT Systemic Or Instutional. End Of Story.Is this misogyny, or oppression? I don't think people hate women. They didn't bar women from coal mines because they hated them. They were barred because society loved them and wanted to keep them safe. If anything, what we have is systemic philogyny. And that philogyny sometimes backfires against women. I know this is probably not what OP meant, but I think it's an important distinction to make. People hate men. There's a difference. With men, it's purposeful, systematic, and done with malice. … | /r/MensRights | 20/04/23 11:33 AM |
| 11 | Anyone here read “Why Women Have Better Sex Under Socialism” by Kristen GhodseeErnest Belfort Bax and Mary Marcy were two prominent ones. Mary Beard is also notable. https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comments/f6udif/the_early_mens_rights_activist_who_was_also_a/ https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comments/11hcp5m/marxism_mens_rights_and_the_means_of_reproduction/ https://www.marxists.org/archive/beard/woman-force/index.htm | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/04/23 10:42 AM |
| 18 | If not now, when?What and where are pretty good questions also. The patriarchy seems more like a conspiracy theory than anything else. It even looks like NWO stuff when you look at the type of evidence they present ("well most bankers in history were men"... queue r/menkampf). Patriarchy theory is just the left's version of q-anon and other radicalist conspiracy theories. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/04/23 02:21 AM |
| 38 | Anyone here read “Why Women Have Better Sex Under Socialism” by Kristen GhodseeThere are a few socialists who were MRAs. It makes sense when you consider that workers are the ones primarily exploited by capitalism, and historically men were expected to work more (and therefore be exploited more). Even under Engel's version, women were only exploited as a byproduct of male / worker exploitation (their exploitation came in the form of being expected to birth and raise lots of new, cheap male laborers for the work force). Around the turn of the 20th century, there was a huge … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/04/23 11:19 PM |
| 57 | Psychology experts are saying to not use the phrase toxic masculinity: it is a flawed concept, and likely harmful in a mental health contextSources Negative attitudes towards masculinity have become widely accepted in mainstream public discourse in recent years. In contrast to the “women are wonderful” effect (Eagly et al. 1991), contemporary men are subject to a “men are toxic” effect. The notion of “toxic masculinity” has emerged and has even gained widespread credence despite the lack of any empirical testing (see chapter on masculinity by Seager and Barry). In general terms it appears as if attitudes to men have been based on ge… | /r/MensRights | 19/04/23 10:09 PM |
| 90 | Psychology experts are saying to not use the phrase toxic masculinity: it is a flawed concept, and likely harmful in a mental health contextSome more details and additional sources Toxic masculinity is an example of what's known as a deficit approach, which contrasts against the more modern positive psychology approach. It's also literally a textbook example of something known as negative labeling (kind of like how people are afraid of chemicals because we talk about toxic chemicals all the time). Moreover, the common definition that it results from men "holding in their emotions" is based on outdated Freudian / "Hollywood" psychoan… | /r/MensRights | 19/04/23 10:08 PM |
| 27 | If not now, when?This harms women because the victim mentality holds them back. There have been a couple studies about this recently, including a proposed "victim identity" as a personality type: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886920303238 If we want to end harmful gender norms, we need to put an end to this "victim status seeking behaviour" that a lot of women engage in. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/04/23 09:50 PM |
| 1 | Science denial won’t end sexism.There were non-radical feminists during the second wave. Warren Farrell was one, for example. The difference is that today almost all of feminism is, by default, radical. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/04/23 08:25 PM |
| 2 | Science denial won’t end sexism.Evopsych is part of every psychology curriculum around the world. I wouldn't call it unfalsifiable. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/04/23 08:07 PM |
| 2 | Science denial won’t end sexism.https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comments/n5fnga/a_quick_look_at_the_dictionary_definition_of/ https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comments/oup51x/the_feminist_challenge_to_socialist_history_why/ | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/04/23 06:06 PM |
| 2 | Science denial won’t end sexism.Most MRAs probably qualify as liberal feminists, which was popular during the 2nd wave. Some people on this sub might qualify as Marxist feminists as well. Technically speaking, the main form of feminism that's popular today is radical feminism. That's what patriarchy theory is (or more specifically, radical feminism is the idea that men or society systematically oppresses women). That's not a Kafka trap, that's literally the dictionary / academic definition. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/04/23 05:12 PM |
| 21 | Physical v Mental Abuse and gendersOf course! How silly of me :) Some of these links are starting to go dead, but there's a really good article here: https://becauseits2015.wordpress.com/2016/12/11/yes-dear-henpecked-husbands-and-one-sided-relationship-dynamics/ One of the studies they mention can be found here: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/232586895_Sex_Differences_in_the_Use_of_Demand_and_Withdraw_Behavior_in_Marriage_Examining_the_Social_Structure_Hypothesis | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/04/23 01:34 PM |
| 14 | Physical v Mental Abuse and gendersThere's research showing that women control relationships more often than men. In marriage, 80% of relationships are dominated women. The other 20% is split between the husband having more control, and the relationship being about equal. I also saw something that measured chemical responses to domestic arguments -- I think cortisol, actually -- which showed that women were much more comfortable and in their element during domestic arguments than men. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/04/23 11:58 AM |
| 14 | Science denial won’t end sexism.Generally what I've seen is that social factors exaggerate and modify biological factors. So yes there is a spectrum, and there are exceptions where society completely flips the script. But that doesn't disprove the norm. One example I saw talked about men being providers (not in those exact words). But what that looks like is different between cultures. So in some places, being a provider means earning money and paying bills. While in other places, it means hunting and bringing back food. So th… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/04/23 08:54 PM |
| 18 | Science denial won’t end sexism.there's no evidence of differences between X and Y This is also inherently subjective. There's an ongoing "debate" in psychology between two papers that looked at gender differences, found basically the same thing, but came to opposite conclusions when they were published. Men and women are very similar. But we're also different. So it really just depends on who you ask, and that is (nowadays) often a political question. You can think of it like humans sharing 98% of our DNA with chimpanzees. De… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/04/23 08:38 PM |
| 14 | USA: Bud Light owner Anheuser-Busch is accused of 'racist and sexist' hiring practices. A civil rights complaint related to its programs aimed toward hiring and providing scholarships to women.There was research on gender blind hiring in STEM which found that female presenting cis men scored the highest while male presenting cis women scored the lowest. (Which was opposite of what the researchers thought was going to happen). The intersection basically showed that a) men were objectively more qualified on average and b) men were being actively discriminated against in favour of women. So yeah ignoring that trans is a real thing, it also ironically opens the doors for cis men to exploi… | /r/MensRights | 18/04/23 01:09 PM |
| 10 | USA: Bud Light owner Anheuser-Busch is accused of 'racist and sexist' hiring practices. A civil rights complaint related to its programs aimed toward hiring and providing scholarships to women.It's funny how r/AskMen let's women post there but AskWomen tries to block everyone. You basically have to be a radical feminist to post there. Being a regular (non-radical) feminist isn't even enough anymore. | /r/MensRights | 18/04/23 01:04 PM |
| 31 | The mainstream and academia always knew, yet did NOTHING. An article from 2010 that proves men’s issues have been known about, yet were ignored and belittled, for over a decadeHow common are those guys? It sounds more like a made up boogeyman to me. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/04/23 02:13 PM |
| 68 | I think feminism is a right wing ideology.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GO_X4DkwA_Q (Above video, feminist pulling the fire alarm at university of Toronto to prevent an MRA meeting) It's even worse than that. It was actually a suicide / mental health awareness event. It was organized by "MRAs", but it wasn't a men's rights event. They invited psychology experts to talk about male suicide and things like that. I think the only real MRA there (speaking) was Warren Farrell (who was also a feminist btw). But he is a trained therapist and … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/04/23 10:25 PM |
| 22 | Hurt boys, hurt us.Look at some of the comments. Nobody is against LGBT parents. What's ironic is some of the research on the importance of fathers came out of LGBT parenting research. They did find that LGBT couples can parent just as well as intact heterosexual families. But they also found that single fathers do pretty well as well. In many metrics they are literally on par with intact families. The sinking data point is from single cis mothers. I don't know why that is, especially given that single moms get a … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/04/23 04:43 PM |
| 18 | "Toxic Masculinity" vs "Internalised Misogyny"There's really no accepted definition. The other definition you see is that men bottle things up and hold their emotions in, which makes them violent. An even older definition is that that toxic masculinity is when men either worship women / femininity, or become feminine themselves. They live in the comfy world of women and children instead of "growing up" and accepting their true nature as men. That's actually the original definition but you don't see that one used very often anymore. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/04/23 06:34 PM |
| 5 | LWMA LoungeThe women owned stuff is just marketing. People support it because they want to support women, so it makes money. If misogyny was actually a problem, advertising that you're woman owned would hurt sales, not help. What's funny is businesses have figured out how to game the system. You create a sub company with a woman on the board who technically owns 51% of the company (while still working for the parent company), and 100% of the revenue still owned by the parent company, that's owned by facele… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/04/23 12:07 PM |
| 15 | What are the examples of misandry, male disposability & common male tropes in fiction?This might be useful. https://np.reddit.com/r/Male_Studies/comments/vbbj76/the_battered_husband_syndrome/ https://psycnet.apa.org/record/1979-08674-001 One of the main points of this paper was to document evidence about the normalisation of female-on-male violence in society and in the media, including in older print newspapers and comics. Some of her research looked at popular comic strips from as far back as the early 1900s to demonstrate that female-on-male abuse, not male-on-female abuse, is… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/04/23 03:01 PM |
| 9 | Vast numbers of men and women think mens’ rights are under threat…so why does no one speak out?Most are radical feminists. You rarely find non-radical feminists on the Internet anymore. Especially Reddit and Twitter. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/04/23 11:38 AM |
| 16 | Vast numbers of men and women think mens’ rights are under threat…so why does no one speak out?If you say anything that pushes back against a feminist narrative, people automatically assume you're an MRA, or psycho in hiding, trying to sneak some other terrible woman hating view in under the guise of an initial reasonable statement. The problem is people assume MRAs do this in the first place. Caring about men's rights isn't any worse than caring about women's rights. We're not meninists. MRAs aren't the male version of feminists. Frankly we're better than that. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/04/23 01:15 AM |
| 6 | Minister for Men: What questions would you ask?There's a brain region that is known to "quiet" the startle response in humans, which is a known and studied gender difference between men and women (women startle more than men). So think about putting people in front of a scary movie and then measuring how much they startle during it. That brain region is also quite a bit larger and more active in men (including trans men). I think it's more than twice the size as it is in women. And the neurons in that brain region have androgen receptors tha… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 31/03/23 11:03 PM |
| 8 | Minister for Men: What questions would you ask?I wonder if part of that, like you suggested, has to do with your transition. An AMAB boy would have developed strategies that go along with their biology and hormones over time. Whereas you've developed strategies to go along with your biology and are now having to unlearn and relearn how to think and focus with new body chemistry. Many men who get older experience a drop in testosterone that causes mood and attention difficulties. Which go away with testosterone replacement therapy. There's al… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 31/03/23 07:28 PM |
| 13 | Tropes against Men: examples of misandry that are baked into our cultureThe choking thing blew up in feminist circles not too long ago. There are a couple problems with this narrative: Choking is a consensual kink Choking is usually requested by women. Many men have problems doing this to women when they're asked to do it. Most choking kinks do not involve asphyxiation. It is not dangerous. It's a psychological thing where you have someone put their hands on your throat or chest to kind of say I know you could choke the shit out of me if you wanted to but you love m… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/03/23 04:44 PM |
| 8 | Modern “Slimy misandry” is a fundamentally different beast to previous bigotrySo if they encounter a problem they can't solve and are frustrated, they're often told to just man up. As opposed to what? Giving up? Sitting around to complain about it? Getting someone else to do it for you? I get what you're saying. But you're acting like it's a bad thing to have mental fortitude and persistence. Obviously anything can be taken to an extreme. But I don't think men on average have any real issue with this. Some empathy, respect, and recognition for men who make these sacrifice… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/03/23 08:24 PM |
| 14 | Modern “Slimy misandry” is a fundamentally different beast to previous bigotryVenting to friends is literally the opposite of bottling up emotions. You're letting it all out. That's my point. Men do this type of stuff just like women do. We just kind of ignore it because for some reason women are seen as the default. So if you're not crying or gossiping or anything like that, we assume you're holding things in. From men like me who've always suppressed our anger and didn't have an appropriate outlet for the emotions, we were feeling. Plenty of people do this. Men and wome… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/03/23 07:35 PM |
| 24 | Modern “Slimy misandry” is a fundamentally different beast to previous bigotryHow do you tell the difference between being in control of your emotions, and bottling them up? Just because men emote less, or differently than women, doesn't mean they're bottling them up. Instead of crying over the phone with a friend, maybe they get stuff out when they root for their favorite sports team. Instead of gossiping at the hair salon, maybe they vent their frustrations over a beer at the pub. Or maybe they have things under control and are strong enough to deal with things on their… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/03/23 07:11 PM |
| 46 | Modern “Slimy misandry” is a fundamentally different beast to previous bigotryProfessional psychologists regard toxic masculinity to be a myth, and probably harmful to talk about even if you mean well. There are some sources about that here: Centre for Male Psychology https://www.centreformalepsychology.com/ The Palgrave Handbook of Male Psychology and Mental Health https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-030-04384-1 Men’s Issues and Men’s Mental Health: An Introductory Primer https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-030-86320-3 Perspectives in Male Psychology: A… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/03/23 06:15 PM |
| 83 | Modern “Slimy misandry” is a fundamentally different beast to previous bigotryThis is sometimes known as a motte and bailey fallacy. The language definitely helps them hide behind it, but you can address it similar to any other motte and bailey argument. It's also useful to point out how important language has been to feminism over the years: policeman, fireman, etc. And now they want to use mansplaining and toxic masculinity? It's hypocritical. The fact that the word feminism is supposed to mean equality (why not egalitarianism?) and patriarchy represents everything bad … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/03/23 04:59 PM |
| 6 | Pro-female and anti-male biases are more influential than race and other factors in Implicit Association TestsIt didn't do too well on r/psychology, either. And they're usually pretty good about this sort of stuff because gender bias is obviously studied in psychology. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/03/23 05:26 PM |
| 1 | Has the field of psychology failed men?There's a lot of romanticism, and almost an appeal to magic, over Freud's approach. You can still get licensed to do Freudian inspired therapy. They're a minority for sure but it's more common than you'd think. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/03/23 05:15 PM |
| 1 | Has the field of psychology failed men?Yeah talk therapy can be very broad. I get what you're saying though. And I actually think you could encourage more men to try it with that type of logic. Since most people don't really know what CBT is. But this research isn't singling out CBT from other forms of therapy. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/03/23 04:23 PM |
| 3 | Has the field of psychology failed men?We don't have to abide by the APA. Not all of us are Americans, and even in America you can see the backlash that their guidelines led to. The APA rescinded and apologized for their 2019 report after quite a bit of professional / academic backlash that was threatening their reputation in the psychology community. Including mainstream publications in places like the New York Time by well-regarded psychologists in the field. Looking back, this probably had an overall positive effect on the field o… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/03/23 12:27 PM |
| 4 | Has the field of psychology failed men?CBT is great. The theory behind CBT is that your emotions, thoughts, and behaviors all feed off each other. Most people, without really being aware, go through this feedback loop where they feel a certain way, so they think a certain way, which reinforces the way they feel, which causes them to act in a certain way. The goal of CBT is to interrupt that process and put you back into conscious control of your thoughts and behaviors, which will then influence how you feel. In this context though, O… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/03/23 11:47 AM |
| 11 | A question regarding IPV: To what extent IPV is done out of self-defense/retaliation?Retaliation and self-defense are very different. I imagine they get confused quite a bit though, probably on purpose. Self-defense only makes sense as a last resort if you fear for your life. Pushing him back because he pushed you first is not self-defense. That will only make the problem worse. Him pushing you does not give you an excuse to push him back, either. The logic that ("radical") feminists try to apply to exonerate violent women reminds me of playground logic that children get into wh… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/03/23 11:45 PM |
| 18 | The left is committing suicide: the increasing alienation of men is going to destroy our movementI'm a guy. I've cried in front of my girl. I've had sex not just within "_days", but literally within minutes. I do think chronic displays of weakness might be a little more universal (certainly not with all women of course). But I also think it gets exaggerated as well. You have to think that this problem gets compounded for guys though because of how difficult dating can be in the first place. Even if it's a small majority of women, it becomes a larger issue when you have to reckon with starti… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/03/23 10:27 PM |
| 12 | Has the field of psychology failed men?I won't say how long ago I graduated but I have a degree in psychology and I do remember there being a lot more women than men in the program. Maybe 60% to 70% was women. There were also gender differences in what people wanted to do when they graduated. Men were more likely to want to get a PhD and stay in academia. Whereas most of the women wanted to be therapists. So yeah it's hard to put actual numbers on it but there is definitely a gender gap that trends in that direction. And I wouldn't b… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/03/23 09:30 PM |
| 6 | Has the field of psychology failed men?CBT is a form of talk therapy. The focus is to learn how to control and manage your emotions. I'm trained in CBT and I can tell you that this is different from "fixing things", like in context of what that quote (and the research that quote is based on) is pointing out. It's only fixing things if the thing that's broken is your internal ability to control your emotions. It can certainly help of course. But if your problems are created by work, or family court, or any of these other issues that c… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/03/23 09:14 PM |
| 10 | Has the field of psychology failed men?A big part of it is male advocacy and the men's rights movement. Suicide and mental health has always been a big focus of the MRM. NCFM's board is full of phd psychologists for example. And a lot of what CAFE / men and families is working on was inspired by Earl Silverman who committed suicide while trying to run a male domestic violence center. Back in I think 2012 they organized a male mental health seminar (which was protested by feminists for whatever dumb reason). And the NCFM has sponsored… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/03/23 09:01 PM |
| 34 | Has the field of psychology failed men?I just want to point out that there is some amazing work being done in this area. In the past 3 years we've had 3 books written on the subject, including a "101" level university textbook, and a mental health handbook for men. We also saw the creation of the male psychology section of the British Psychological Society and a new Centre for Male Psychology. The APPG report is also a really good sign. On Reddit we have r/mensupportmen for self-help, and r/MalePsychology to track the academic side o… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/03/23 02:30 PM |
| 45 | If you are in an abusive relationship, get out. But if you are a woman as per an Apple TV show, another solution is kill your husband. An insane amount of content today suggests violence is acceptable for women.If you're a man in need of help dealing with an abusive partner, contact one of these groups: Canada Canadian Centre for Men and Families, Tel +1 647-479-9611, 9am - 5pm Monday - Saturday Ireland Men's Aid Ireland, Tel 01 554 3811, Monday - Friday 9 am - 5 pm UK ManKind Initiative, Tel 01823 334244, weekdays 10am to 4pm Families Need Fathers (FNF), Tel 0300 0300 363, weekdays 9am - 10pm Monday - Friday and from 10am - 3pm on weekends US NCFM Men's Center, Tel +1 619-231-1909 | /r/MensRights | 27/03/23 12:25 AM |
| 5 | Is it time we talked about parental alienation?I don't think it's peer-reviewed. It looks like a research paper. Hopefully not for someone's PhD... There's an email listed to complain about it. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/03/23 12:14 AM |
| 5 | Is it time we talked about parental alienation?I've heard that lawyers will encourage or suggest this strategy to their clients. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/03/23 05:37 PM |
| 22 | Is it time we talked about parental alienation?The problem of feminist denial on this can be seen in publications that basically just make stuff up. But it's published so it must be real, right? I saw this comment on r/AskMen (by u/thisguywonders) in response to a radical feminist trying to deny that family court discrimination exists. Nice propaganda piece. Since the piece doesn't even link the study it cites, I found the link: https://scholarship.law.gwu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2712&context=faculty_publications So many issues with … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/03/23 05:25 PM |
| 4 | A question on statistics and victims of domestic violenceI made an argument for that here: https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/e6hxvq/battered_husband_syndrome_as_an_explanation_for/ There's data showing that as we've added resources for women, there has been a drop in wives murdering their husbands. But there's been no drop the other way around. In addition, before we had help for women, we had gender parity for ipv homicides. Which indicates that men aren't any worse than women in that regard. We literally just help women more which causes … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/03/23 08:10 PM |
| 9 | LWMA Lounge"Most men who are survivors of that violence dont seek out shelters." This is the only point that might be valid. But that is partially because of how we talk about this. Men don't know that they can or should seek help. In fact many men don't contextualize their abuse as abuse. Instead they talk about their crazy ex-girlfriend who slashed their tires. This bias influences reporting and research as well. It's called epistemic oppression. Another factor might even be dating. Women can leave and u… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/03/23 05:20 PM |
| 5 | Who's missing from the conversation of intimate partner deaths?There is at least one other study I've seen about this. It was done in a different US state and came to the same conclusion. I also saw someone on r/AskMen run some numbers for Australia. This is admittedly not super reliable but what's interesting is they had no idea that previous research existed in the US. They just had a hunch, found some data, then got a ratio of 1.1 male deaths to every female death. That data is publicly available if you wanted to run the numbers yourself (in theory anywa… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/03/23 12:02 PM |
| 8 | Who's missing from the conversation of intimate partner deaths?If you're a man in need of help dealing with an abusive partner, contact one of these groups: Canada Canadian Centre for Men and Families, Tel +1 647-479-9611, 9am - 5pm Monday - Saturday Ireland Men's Aid Ireland, Tel 01 554 3811, Monday - Friday 9 am - 5 pm UK ManKind Initiative, Tel 01823 334244, weekdays 10am to 4pm Families Need Fathers (FNF), Tel 0300 0300 363, weekdays 9am - 10pm Monday - Friday and from 10am - 3pm on weekends US NCFM Men's Center, Tel +1 619-231-1909 | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/03/23 11:57 AM |
| 4 | To the u/TheTinMenBlog, a checkup post of a sortI agree there's too much doom and gloom I guess you could say. One strategy I've been trying recently is to just talk about some of the positive work that's being done. "Family court sucks, right? Well the NPO has been making a lot of progress! They hit a roadblock in Florida because of those pesky feminists, but Arkansas and West Virginia finished some groundbreaking legislation thanks to them!" Just stuff like that. I added this wiki entry about some of the big non-profits in male advocacy and… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/03/23 10:39 PM |
| 12 | To the u/TheTinMenBlog, a checkup post of a sortIt's not the best platform. But it is very popular and influential. Btw John Barry is easy to get ahold of. He runs the center for male psychology and is a founding member of the male psychology section of the British Psychological Society. He was one of the people that the APPG reached out to for that report that you mentioned. He's actually here on Reddit. I won't tag him but I can shoot it in a dm if you'd like. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/03/23 09:17 PM |
| 17 | To the u/TheTinMenBlog, a checkup post of a sortHave you considered cross posting on TikTok? I'm not a social media expert but I imagine you could make videos sliding through your slides with some background music. Then people will start making those other videos where they kind of nod and point in agreement. Or argue against you. Which helps you on the platform whichever way it goes. I am aware of one creator on there called the dadvocate who would probably love to partner with you on the platform. https://www.tiktok.com/@the_dadvocate | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/03/23 08:23 PM |
| 5 | The "Gender Wage Gap" is why I was (formerly) a feministAt that point, it seems pretty logical to assume that there are other reasons for the gap. It's like the more stuff we think of, the smaller the gap gets. So it's 1% now. It will 0.5% tomorrow when we figure something else out. And then it will be solved. If you think about it, you have to know it's not really 1%. It's 0%. We just haven't solved what that last 1% is yet. It's almost like the God of the gaps argument. Except in this case, God is "systemic wage inequality against women". And they'… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/03/23 12:28 AM |
| 26 | The "Gender Wage Gap" is why I was (formerly) a feministThe average male sports fan probably watches more female sporting events than feminists do. What's even more ironic is those are the types of men that feminists are most likely to stereotype as toxic or part of the patriarchy. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/03/23 06:40 PM |
| 8 | The "Gender Wage Gap" is why I was (formerly) a feministYep men work more to pay for their families to not have to work as much. From a classical Marxist perspective, this makes women a privileged class who exploit the labor of men. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/03/23 06:06 PM |
| 2 | Why is it so hard to discuss men's issues in left spaces?Christina Hoff Sommers probably counts. There's a small handful of feminists who don't accept patriarchy theory. I mean it's all semantics though. Modern day "radical" feminism can be traced to the SCUM manifesto. Which very quickly got a term attached to it: patriarchy theory. Back then there were feminists who, today, would probably be seen as out of place in the movement. Like where some feminists will say that Sommers isn't a real feminist, for example. But at the time it was reversed. Most … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/03/23 05:08 PM |
| 2 | Why is it so hard to discuss men's issues in left spaces?Radical feminism didn't take over the entire movement until later. It did exist much earlier but you could make a distinction between the two. That one book called Women As a Force in History, which I think you're familiar with, alludes to this in the 1940s. She was a suffragette who criticized some "women's righters" for seeing men as women's oppressors. I forget the exact words she used but that's was the sentiment for why she wrote the book. So like you're right it does go back really far. Bu… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/03/23 12:15 PM |
| 10 | Why is it so hard to discuss men's issues in left spaces?Many people on the left don't know what radical feminism is. They think it has something to do with TERFS, and will usually try to deflect in that direction. I find it's useful in left wing spaces to point out that you only disagree with radical feminists, and that you 100% support feminists who only care about gender equality (ie 2nd wave, pre-patriarchy feminism). You're less likely to be shut down that way. Even if you're effectively disagreeing with all of the modern wave of feminism (which … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/03/23 10:25 PM |
| 8 | Does this sub believe that "traditional" masculinity and/or gender roles should be promoted/encouraged?Why does it have to be men? Why can't women do these jobs? What about masculine women? Why are only feminized men a national security threat? By your logic, aren't feminized women also a national security threat? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/03/23 01:30 AM |
| 33 | Does this sub believe that "traditional" masculinity and/or gender roles should be promoted/encouraged?There were some surveys that suggest most men would do that if given the chance. So would most women also. Indicating that staying home while someone else pays your bills is probably a kind of privilege. After all it's mostly wealth women who get this option in life. Poor women usually have to work while also helping out at home. Most wealthy men also still work. From a Marxist standpoint, I'd argue that women probably exist further up in the social hierarchy for that reason. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/03/23 11:56 PM |
| 9 | Gender dysphoria made me understand how important masculinity is to most menI probably should have linked this at the top but better late than never I guess. https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comments/wa9u3l/reforming_masculinity_is_a_modern_version_of/ | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/03/23 02:32 PM |
| 4 | It has been illegal to pay women less for the same job since 1963. If it is so prevalent why aren’t more people fined, sued and companies shut down.There is an issue with education and a growing problem in academia. And many people on the left see hypocrisy where we accept women, lgbt+, overweight women etc, but not men, and especially not men who are disabled or on the spectrum. If we want to accept everyone for who they are then we need to accept and respect men, including socially awkward autistic men. Many people see this is as a core left wing value and feel betrayed when the left ignores this. There's actually a whole subreddit that t… | /r/MensRights | 19/03/23 01:34 PM |
| 10 | Gender dysphoria made me understand how important masculinity is to most menMasculinity is tied to core attributes like "winning" and "competitiveness". But what that looks like can be different in different cultures. Maybe in some places killing is winning for example. In other places being good at video games or sports is winning. But that still kind of unifies what masculinity is. So I don't really like to think about there being multiple types of masculinity. Instead I like to think of there being multiple ways of expressing masculinity. Edit: This came out of the p… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/03/23 01:21 PM |
| 10 | Gender dysphoria made me understand how important masculinity is to most menI've seen some people defending Jordan Peterson recently. Like I guess he says things that a lot of liberals don't like, so they really want to accuse him of being sexist or racist to try to cancel him. But he's never actually said anything like that from my knowledge. I take it Tate is at least borderline sexist though? I've never listened to either. I just keep seeing commentary about them. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/03/23 01:18 PM |
| 6 | Gender dysphoria made me understand how important masculinity is to most menYes that was a typo. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/03/23 01:15 PM |
| 67 | Gender dysphoria made me understand how important masculinity is to most menPsychologists are starting to compare the "emasculation" of men in society to conversion therapy. If you don't know, conversion therapy is an outdated and homophobic "therapy" designed to get the gay out of gay people. Instead of letting gay people be gay, we assumed something was wrong with them, and tried to make them straight. Many gay people committed suicide during this era, especially if they were subjected to overt conversation therapy. This is probably one of the reasons the LGBT movemen… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/03/23 12:26 AM |
| 16 | These are all recent and typical images from some of the UK's leading mental health orgs. How many guys would think "this service is for me" if they were looking for help?I feel like men respond more to messages of encouragement and positivity. Not toxic positivity. But not something that portrays them as broken or as victims, either. You got this Rethinking mental health You wouldn't hang a shelf without a level 🔨🔨🔨 Rethinking mental health | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/03/23 12:08 AM |
| 86 | It has been illegal to pay women less for the same job since 1963. If it is so prevalent why aren’t more people fined, sued and companies shut down.The National Organization for Women (NOW) funded some research on this back in the 1990s. What they found was basically that women worked more at home and in turn worked for paid wages less than men. They also found that women worked in safer jobs that generally pay less than the types of jobs men are more likely to do. This research was headed by Warren Farrell who is an extremely influential non-radical feminist, a former board member for NOW, and the so-called "father of the men's rights move… | /r/MensRights | 18/03/23 04:20 PM |
| 26 | Sexual politics is damaging young menSex is a normal aspect of what makes us human. I think the problems you're looking at are caused by female sexuality specifically being liberated and put on pedestal while male sexuality continues to be condemned and controlled. It might technically be better when both female and male sexuality was strictly controlled. But what would be even better than that is if neither was controlled. This is what you see with right wing ideology a lot of the time. They argue that women should be in the kitch… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/03/23 03:57 PM |
| 23 | Victim of “are we dating the same guy” Facebook group. They posted my name and picture.Great question! They are a genuine men's rights organization and the owner has even done AMAs on this sub. Based out of Toronto, CAFE runs several men's centres and a male domestic violence shelter (the only one in the country) under the Canadian Centre for Men and Families. r/MensRights and r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates have helped with fundraising events for their Toronto shelter. They also engage in legislative reform and advocate for male mental health issues. Their Toronto centre was inspired by … | /r/MensRights | 18/03/23 03:48 PM |
| 75 | Sexual politics is damaging young menThis is kind of like a double bind. Men are expected to "succeed" at getting women but at the same time men are told that male sexuality is exploitive. Kind of like how men have to be pushy, but not too pushy. And just end up getting blamed no matter what they do. Examples of male sexuality being demonized in history go back at least to the Greeks btw. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/03/23 01:31 PM |
| 55 | Victim of “are we dating the same guy” Facebook group. They posted my name and picture.I would contact CAFE -- the Canadian association for equality. https://equalitycanada.com/ If they can't take on the case they might know someone who can. | /r/MensRights | 18/03/23 09:44 AM |
| 8 | She lied about being raped twice on Stanford campus blaming it on some black man.This is what intersectionality should be about but isn't. | /r/MensRights | 17/03/23 10:04 PM |
| 32 | A Contradiction in Rhetoric Regarding Men's SuicideToxic masculinity has received a lot of backlash from professional and academic psychologists over the last few years. There are university level psychology textbooks that call it unscientific and harmful. It's an example of what's known as the deficit approach, which contrasts against the more modern positive psychology approach. It's also literally a textbook example of something known as labeling theory (kind of like how people are afraid of chemicals because we talk about toxic chemicals all… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/03/23 03:22 AM |
| – | How the Manosphere led us to develop better mental health services for men — The Centre for Male PsychologyI don't know if it's paranoia or if you're just seeing gender bias manifest systemically and institutionally throughout society. At a certain point it's just a social phenomenon to study. Including the related phenomenon of people being blind to it, and resistant to acknowledging it when it's pointed out to them. Like I hear you. We do not treat male mental health the way we should. That's partially why this sub exists in the first place. To be better. | /r/MenSupportMen | 15/03/23 01:05 AM |
| 20 | Opinion | The Men — and Boys — Are Not Alright (Richard Reeves on the Ezra Klein Show)So he can't stop to think for one moment that maybe he was wrong? That maybe this "MRA" had a point? Because literally there is strait forward, undeniable evidence for what he said? It honestly just shows how little he knows about any of this. The global initiative for boys and men is trying to get governments to create the equivalent of this "task force on male suicide" that he assumed already existed. They're a legit non-profit organization pushing legislation to do this. That's like their mai… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/03/23 01:13 AM |
| 10 | LWMA LoungeIs anyone interested in listing accomplishments and summaries for men's groups? Canadian Association for Equality Based out of Toronto, CAFE runs several men's centres and a male domestic violence shelter (the only one in the country) under the Canadian Centre for Men and Families. r/MensRights and r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates has helped with fundraising events for their Toronto shelter. They also engage in legislative reform and advocate for male mental health issues. Their Toronto centre was in par… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/03/23 06:47 PM |
| 31 | The issue of men not utilising support services at the same rates of women being used as evidence that more focus needs to be on women.If they're underutilizing services, then efforts need to be made to figure out why, and to encourage greater utilization. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/03/23 12:29 AM |
| 4 | Hypothetical thought experiment: opting out of parenthood for menPart of your hypothetical is based on this: What this argument doesn’t acknowledge is that for a woman to “opt out” she has to undergo a medical procedure that does have risks What I'm telling you is abortion has nothing to do with it. Both parents should be able to make their own choices, with or without abortion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/23 10:38 PM |
| 5 | Hypothetical thought experiment: opting out of parenthood for menMost SJWs are hypocrites. I choose to not be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/23 10:33 PM |
| 5 | Hypothetical thought experiment: opting out of parenthood for menTubal ligation is far more risky than a vasectomy Sure, that is 100% true. It also 100% not relevant to the logic of your hypothetical analogy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/23 10:16 PM |
| 7 | Hypothetical thought experiment: opting out of parenthood for menI'm challenging your premise based on, you know, factual reality. I get that you posted a hypothetical, but I don't think abortion should have anything to do with it to begin with. When people bring that up, it's usually a misunderstanding of how things work presently in the real world. I think both parents should be able to make whatever decisions they want to make regardless if it's a fetus or an infant. And I mean to really make your analogy stick, you'd have to argue that women should get th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/23 10:12 PM |
| 10 | Hypothetical thought experiment: opting out of parenthood for menSingle women (in the legal sense, meaning unmarried) can give up children for adoption without consent from the father and without future child support obligations. So right there we can stop talking about anything dealing with bodily autonomy. This is partially a legal loophole that's facilitated by basic biology (created by the fact that we know, at birth, who the mom is, but not necessarily the father). There's been no real interest in fixing this though. And it is fixable from a legal standp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/23 10:00 PM |
| 10 | Stuck in an abusive relationshipYou're in Canada? Try calling the Canadian Centre for Men and Families, +1 647-479-9611, 9am - 5pm Monday - Saturday. Besides them there are non profits that help people in short term binds pay their bills and get groceries. There are bound to be rescue people who can take your dog temporarily as well. I know it's a lot but men and families should be able to help connect you with the right people to make a plan to get out. | /r/MenSupportMen | 11/03/23 04:21 AM |
| 32 | who are some male heroes from history that you admire?He was a supporter of men's rights also. His observations and work with homelessness led him down that path. In one of his books on homelessness in I think Paris he said it was interesting that men outnumbered women 10 to 1. And concluded that women must have some sort of financial privilege for that to manifest. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/03/23 05:03 PM |
| 3 | Marxism, Men’s Rights and 'the Means of Reproduction’ – A Forgotten 'Marxist-Masculist’ Men’s Rights Masterpiecehttps://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/06/12/fathers-day-facts/ | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/03/23 02:44 AM |
| 5 | Why does The Left Keep Missing This About The Male Loneliness Problem?I think it is. It helps out the author and the field of research as well. By showing publishers that there's demand for this type of work. You can get ahold of Rob Whitley though. He might email you a copy for free. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/03/23 02:29 PM |
| 3 | Things that women support the most are about avoiding the responsibility that women being equal implyCourts in the US disagree. They don't even care if you're raped, or were a minor. There was a guy in the US who was molested by his baby sitter and was ordered to pay back child support when he turned 18. His parents had saved for his education and instead had to pay his rapist, killing his dreams of going to university. These issues just aren't properly addressed under any circumstance. At least with abortion most people are ok with it if a woman is raped or something like that. With men we jus… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/23 02:20 AM |
| 7 | Things that women support the most are about avoiding the responsibility that women being equal implyExcept when he isn't and can prove that with a DNA test. Or you know maybe if he was raped and was a minor. Like that guy in the US who was raped by his baby sitter and had to give up his dreams of going to university because when he turned 18 he was ordered by a court to get a job and start paying back child support. The legal system just doesn't care and offers no avenue to fix those types of situations. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/23 02:12 AM |
| 37 | Why does The Left Keep Missing This About The Male Loneliness Problem?This has been noted as a psychological bias, in part due to people having greater empathy for women than for men. There's some discussion about that here: https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-030-86320-3 | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/03/23 02:08 AM |
| 2 | Things that women support the most are about avoiding the responsibility that women being equal implyIf the mother can absolve herself of child support obligations in exchange for giving up her children unharmed, and you're saying that either parent can do it, then logically that implies that the father can as well. Effectively making it a paper abortion law. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/23 01:52 AM |
| 5 | Things that women support the most are about avoiding the responsibility that women being equal implyThe context is a man trying to get out of paying child support when he is not the biological father. The difference is the mother knows that the child is hers. Your snide comment that a man can do his own paternity test does not address the actual issue that we're talking about in the legal context. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/23 01:33 AM |
| 1 | Things that women support the most are about avoiding the responsibility that women being equal implySo are you telling me right now that paper abortions are already a thing for men? It's just called safe haven instead of paper abortions? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/23 01:21 AM |
| 5 | Things that women support the most are about avoiding the responsibility that women being equal implyYes but the father has to be the sole parent for that to work as a mechanism to get out of paying child support. The way it works is the mother gets declared a parent by default, but a father gets declared in 1 of 3 ways: By being married to the mother By having the mother add him to the birth certificate voluntarily By suing in court and proving paternity The reason this works for single women so well is they can simply opt to not add the father. And the child will be adopted long before the co… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/23 01:13 AM |
| 5 | Things that women support the most are about avoiding the responsibility that women being equal implyAt that point you are legally the father and beholden to child support laws. As far as I'm aware there is no jurisdiction that allows a father to retroactively remove himself from the birth certificate. At most a new man can opt to adopt the child, so long as both the mother and father are ok with it. But that doesn't happen very often in those cases. Especially since the mother can just date (or even marry) a new guy and get support from him while still collecting child support from the first g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/23 01:04 AM |
| 6 | Things that women support the most are about avoiding the responsibility that women being equal implyThat's actually just not true. Safe haven laws allow women to give up children without any responsibility. These laws were passed in the 1970s and 1980s specifically to give women that right. There was a string of dumpster babies back then -- literally this is where that phrase comes from. New mothers who didn't want to be parents were throwing away and murdering their newborn children. So we passed laws that give women this option so long as they deliver their child to the state unharmed. This … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/23 12:53 AM |
| 12 | Things that women support the most are about avoiding the responsibility that women being equal implyThere was something recently showing that a majority of men supported automatic paternity testing and a majority of women opposed it. It made news headlines and was posted at least on r/MensRights when it came out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/23 12:51 AM |
| 1 | Things that women support the most are about avoiding the responsibility that women being equal implyCalifornia for one. https://reason.com/2004/02/01/injustice-by-default-2/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/23 12:45 AM |
| 1 | Things that women support the most are about avoiding the responsibility that women being equal implyI think the child can only be a newborn less than a few months. Usually it's 2 or 3 years but yes you're right it's supposed to be for young children. The reason we passed these laws is because women were murdering or throwing away (literally into dumpsters) unwanted children because they didn't want the responsibility of being a mother. So we decided to just go ahead and let new mothers opt out of motherhood so long as they delivered their child to the state unharmed. because some fathers faile… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/23 12:39 AM |
| 2 | Things that women support the most are about avoiding the responsibility that women being equal implyFalse allegations affect 1 in 7 men and around 1 in 15 women. https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/11-falsely-accused-of-abuse-survey-shows-123033723.html | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/23 12:30 AM |
| 7 | Things that women support the most are about avoiding the responsibility that women being equal implySafe haven laws allow women to abandon their already birthed children with no financial responsibility. Fathers have adopted and failed to sue for child support. Sometimes they aren't even allowed to adopt because single men don't always have that right. Depending on the specific laws, this may only be available to single mothers. But it is a thing. And in many places the laws go all the way up to age 18. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/23 12:21 AM |
| 3 | Things that women support the most are about avoiding the responsibility that women being equal implySome of the really egalitarian Nordic countries have pushed for paper abortions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/23 12:19 AM |
| 5 | What are some examples of the "blue tax?"http://www.fighting4fair.com/uncategorized/weve-all-heard-of-the-gender-income-gap-but-is-there-an-expense-gap-working-draft/ | /r/MensRights | 07/03/23 10:00 PM |
| 25 | What are some examples of the "blue tax?"Just the fact that men pay for women, especially through dating, marriage, and divorce. Men may not pay a "pink tax" but they do pay a "relationship tax" that can easily run hundreds of thousands of dollars over a lifetime https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/guknhv/men_may_not_pay_a_pink_tax_but_they_do_pay_a/ The pink tax may even be thought of as resulting from this. Many "pink" items are actually just luxury items. The female version is better, or at least implied to be better, then … | /r/MensRights | 07/03/23 09:50 PM |
| 47 | Men don't "use women" for sex or only care about sex when dating. Why do people always act like men aren't looking for relationships and just look for sex?The flip side of women complaining that men only care about sex is those women only really have sex to offer in the first place. So that's all they see. It's like when you complain about everyone else, it's probably just you. Bring more to the table besides just sex and then men will want you for more than just sex. It's that simple. Try having a personality for starters. Plenty women already do this. Those women are happily married with great guys. It's not our fault that you're shallow and try… | /r/MensRights | 07/03/23 01:53 AM |
| 9 | CMV: Men and their issues must be recognised and highlighted on International Men's Day instead of being preached to be better .Half of that problem is "lifting women up" usually means "putting men down" more than it does anything else. They act like it's a competition, and they play dirty at that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 11:25 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Men and their issues must be recognised and highlighted on International Men's Day instead of being preached to be better .Their biggest (and first) centre is in Toronto. r/MensRights helped raise money for that one. Twice I think because they expanded it a couple years ago. But they have smaller centres all over Canada now. The protests are dumb and reflect poorly on the protestors. The video from the University of Toronto event is just sad to watch. Everyone yelling patriarchy like they're in a cult. That one is second only to the pink haired feminist video who was protesting something the NCFM (national coalition… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 09:56 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Men and their issues must be recognised and highlighted on International Men's Day instead of being preached to be better .Hey man maybe I misunderstood your first comment. It looks like the other guy did too. I'm not trying to argue just to argue so I hope we're straight. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 09:50 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Men and their issues must be recognised and highlighted on International Men's Day instead of being preached to be better .Am I a radical feminist? Why are you expecting me to answer for extremists? You compared women to black people, and men's rights to all lives matter. That is on point with radical feminism. That only works if you see women as victims and men as oppressors. Are you taking back your original claims now? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 07:00 PM |
| 8 | CMV: Men and their issues must be recognised and highlighted on International Men's Day instead of being preached to be better .Radical feminism (patriarchy theory) is the idea that men systematically oppress women in a similar fashion to white people oppressing black people. It is not always explicitly stated that way, because that is obviously ridiculous. It's also why intersectional feminism became a thing. The irony is it was upper middle class stay at home white women who pushed this idea during the civil rights era. I guess cause they were bored and felt left out or something. If you need a quick history lesson, lo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 06:17 PM |
| 7 | Deep dive: The most dangerous domestic abusers will be put on the violent and sex offender register, ministers have saidMy understanding is that US on paper takes a gender neutral approach. But behind the scenes this is what you get instead. It could be entirely different in the UK. But what you're saying doesn't really prove that. Because I can make the same argument for the US (or for Canada for that matter). | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/03/23 06:10 PM |
| 6 | CMV: Men and their issues must be recognised and highlighted on International Men's Day instead of being preached to be better .This type of logic is actually misogynistic. What you're saying is that women aren't successful and relevant members of society. I disagree: I think women are important and I think they help shape society. Women are inventors, entrepreneurs, scientists, politicians, and are incredibly important to society. They are also mothers and teachers and help raise the next generation of both boys and girls. Which actually leads to the question: if men oppress women, who raised them into adults that way? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 05:58 PM |
| 5 | CMV: Men and their issues must be recognised and highlighted on International Men's Day instead of being preached to be better .in many states 50/50 is the default custody There are 3 US states and I think 1 country in Europe that does this Here is a list from 2019. At the time there were only two US states. Since then Arkansas has joined to become the third state to do this. https://nationalparentsorganization.org/information-resources/2019-shared-parenting-report-card But custody always focuses on the primary parent which often is the Mother. If the Father was the primary parent then he would be preferred. How is the f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 05:53 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Men and their issues must be recognised and highlighted on International Men's Day instead of being preached to be better .It's a systemic cognitive bias present in everyone. Possibly based on our genetics or evolution. Kind of like how confirmation bias is just a thing that's common in humans. We see things that align with our previous experiences more than we do new stuff. Or in the case of the women are wonderful effect, we have less empathy and concern for men as a baseline. People naturally just care more about women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 05:44 PM |
| 7 | CMV: Men and their issues must be recognised and highlighted on International Men's Day instead of being preached to be better .The difference is gender issues affect everyone, not just one specific gender. This idea that women are like the black people of gender is both sexist and racist. Plantation owners didn't have harmful roles or norms the way men have harmful gender roles. And slaves didn't have slave privileges the way female privilege is a thing. I get why people see it that way but that is itself a gender issue. "Men as oppressors" is ironically a really big examples of systemic (and institutional) sexism. That… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 05:31 PM |
| 7 | CMV: Men and their issues must be recognised and highlighted on International Men's Day instead of being preached to be better .I would love to see this. The most visible advocacy I've seen from MRAs over the past decade is when they decided to send death and rape threats to Zoe Quinn. You need to take several seats and actually look at these issues for real. You're living in another universe my guy. I don't know if you're ignoring things on purpose or if you're actually just that blind about it all, but there has been a ton of progress on a huge range of issues over the past 5 to 10 years. This one is child custody: htt… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 05:05 PM |
| 4 | CMV: Men and their issues must be recognised and highlighted on International Men's Day instead of being preached to be better .Gynocentrism is an academic concept. Look up the women are wonderful effect. It's a psychological bias studied by researchers. It's also not "blaming things on women". It's more akin to "blaming things on widespread psychological biases". I'm personally not the biggest fan of blaming everything on gynocentrism because it kind of sidesteps concrete advocacy (in much the same way that yelling about the patriarchy harms women's advocacy). But I also don't think it's quite on the same level as blami… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 04:34 PM |
| 4 | CMV: Men and their issues must be recognised and highlighted on International Men's Day instead of being preached to be better .Were those issues caused by years of oppression on the part of women? Why do they have to be created by women? See this is what the problem is. Feminism has primed people to assume that everything has to be a gender war. When we're just saying things like, "let's reform the family law system". It doesn't have to be oppression. It doesn't have to be based on hate, or wild conspiracy theories about an imaginary patriarchy matriarchy. It's just common sense gender equality things. Like hey maybe fa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 04:13 PM |
| 4 | CMV: Men and their issues must be recognised and highlighted on International Men's Day instead of being preached to be better .This is part of what the problem is. We need IMD to address a long list of systemic and institutionalized men's issues. Including the issue of denying that there are problems to begin with. Or are you going to unironically say that men's issues aren't real, too? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 04:09 PM |
| 4 | CMV: Men and their issues must be recognised and highlighted on International Men's Day instead of being preached to be better .There are twelve examples, with sources, listed here in Hostility to acknowledging/addressing men's issues: https://www.reddit.com/r/rbomi/wiki/main/ CAFE has stuff on their website about this too. With some pretty crazy videos of feminists protesting some of their mental health awareness efforts: https://equalitycanada.com/cafe-response-warren-farrell/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 04:04 PM |
| 4 | CMV: Men and their issues must be recognised and highlighted on International Men's Day instead of being preached to be better .Honestly my guy you're not helping. Yes women's issues get exaggerated. This is an institutional issue based on funding. Like sex trafficking is famously exaggerated at just the basic data level in order to get more government funding. Like they define every prostitute as a victim of sex trafficking by default, which isn't true. But still my guy let's not exaggerate things in the other direction. Women's issues are real and matter just as much as men's issues do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 03:54 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Men and their issues must be recognised and highlighted on International Men's Day instead of being preached to be better .This is a good resource: https://www.reddit.com/r/rbomi/wiki/main | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 03:51 PM |
| 5 | CMV: Men and their issues must be recognised and highlighted on International Men's Day instead of being preached to be better .The issue is that men blame women for the issues they face, they don’t understand that it’s the product of the system that they themselves contribute to. This is 100% projection. Feminism aka patriarchy theory is nothing but blaming men and calling men oppressors. Especially intersectional feminism in particular. If you actually understood the issues, you would know that men's rights is nothing like that. We don't blame things on a matriarchy or anything like that. We are not "feminism for men".… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 03:44 PM |
| 11 | CMV: Men and their issues must be recognised and highlighted on International Men's Day instead of being preached to be better .The point is that actual advocacy happens in men's rights spaces, not on mens libs. You are making the positive claim that men's libs does this type of advocacy, and I am asking for evidence of this. Specifically about a real issue like family law reform. I can link plenty of discussions on r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates about this if you were to insist. In part because I am involved in this space and have made submissions there myself. But have been told that this type of discussion is inappropriate o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 03:19 PM |
| 5 | CMV: Men and their issues must be recognised and highlighted on International Men's Day instead of being preached to be better .This is actually what one of the biggest issues is. People try to turn it into a competition. What you see especially is people blaming men as if men systematically oppress women. Turning it into an us vs them situation. If you want to educate yourself on some of the issues, check out /r/rbomi/wiki/main. Fixing men's issues also helps women btw. So please keep that in mind before trying to twist everything back around in your head to men being oppressors and women being victims. Btw when it come… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 02:38 PM |
| 14 | CMV: Men and their issues must be recognised and highlighted on International Men's Day instead of being preached to be better .Give me one example of that sub talking about recent advocacy over family law reform in any kind of positive manner. I doubt any of the posters there are even aware of the names of the groups who are involved in this space. Do you even know who they are yourself? Don't go googling for an answer. Tell me off the top of your head if you know anything at all about this. What states, what groups, what some of the drama and roadblocks have been, etc etc. Humor me, please. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 02:33 PM |
| 28 | CMV: Men and their issues must be recognised and highlighted on International Men's Day instead of being preached to be better .Outside of r/MensLib, there's very little actual discussion of how to work on men's issues. MensLib explicitly censors discussions about men's issues unless it can be blamed on men directly. That's actually indicative of a pretty big problem with talking about these things. Like if you look at the family court bias, we are talking about institutional discrimination (along with systemic gender biases), but the most that we see on that from MensLibs is blaming "male lawmaker" aka "the patriarchy",… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 02:26 PM |
| 7 | CMV: Men and their issues must be recognised and highlighted on International Men's Day instead of being preached to be better .Probably because nobody has heard about IMD and logically they assume there should be a day for that as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 01:56 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Men and their issues must be recognised and highlighted on International Men's Day instead of being preached to be better .If you want a quick overview of the issues, check out this resource: https://www.reddit.com/r/rbomi/wiki/main | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 01:55 PM |
| 15 | CMV: Men and their issues must be recognised and highlighted on International Men's Day instead of being preached to be better .There are a lot of men trying to do things but they run into institutional hurdles and other issues that you typically don't see with women's issues. In Canada, the country's first domestic violence centre for men was met with protests from feminists who have successfully prevented the group from receiving government money that is supposed to be allocated to help domestic violence victims (r/MensRights stepped in and helped raise $50,000 for the group when that happened). Numerous university gro… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 01:50 PM |
| 16 | CMV: Men and their issues must be recognised and highlighted on International Men's Day instead of being preached to be better .Highlighting "good men" is just a snide way to imply that most men are not "good". We need awareness brought to men's issues. IMD was specifically started for that purpose. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 01:42 PM |
| 15 | CMV: Men and their issues must be recognised and highlighted on International Men's Day instead of being preached to be better .I think it's important to highlight men's issues on these days because most people deny that sexism or systemic gender problems affect men. So awareness is needed for this. In Canada MMHA day was started by CAFE, which is a men's rights group that runs mental health centers for men in I think every territory in Canada now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 01:41 PM |
| 6 | Deep dive: The most dangerous domestic abusers will be put on the violent and sex offender register, ministers have saidThere's an entire industry based around the police taking tax dollars to pay feminist groups to "train" them on how to deal with domestic violence. Plus there is an assumption that it's primarily a crime against women just in general. IIRC there's a post in this sub about this except it was for a US state. Someone used free information rules to get copies of some of the training material they use. And in the US it's supposed to be gender neutral as well. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/03/23 01:29 PM |
| 104 | Looking for a good quality essay about the "gay friend" phenomenon, treating gays as a women's accessory sidekick and the general emphasis of embracing feminity by men as a way of their obeisance.Gay men talk about being objectified by strait women. You see it a lot IRL. Not just in the media. Like strait up sexual harassment. Or cis women invading LGBT spaces. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/03/23 02:36 PM |
| 11 | Traditional house chores done by menWell I definitely agree with you there. I'd recommend looking into some of Warren Farrell's work in this area though if you have a chance. There are more arguments (meaning from radfems) on this topic than just time use / unpaid labor. And I think Farrell does a really good job navigating all of that. He makes a point that, in the end, housework is negotiated between couples based on their own circumstances, strengths, weaknesses, etc. So he ultimately still sees it as "fair". There's also the p… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/03/23 08:34 PM |
| 16 | Traditional house chores done by menThe issue with BLS data is it doesn't separate out people in relationships or with children. When you're looking at population wide data you're going to capture a lot of single moms, and child support paying dads. Due simply to the family court bias. So while I don't doubt the integrity of the data itself, it's not as useful to us as you would think. But if you look at time use studies that focus on married couples, you'll see that many of my criticisms do apply there. The PEW studies in particu… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/03/23 07:44 PM |
| 29 | Traditional house chores done by menPage 115 of Women can't hear what men don't say. Citing: Juster, "The Allocation of Time," op. cit., p. 484. Martha S. Hill and F. Thomas Juster, "Constraints and Complementaries in Time Use," in Juster and Stafford 1985, pp. 429-70 as cited in Juster, ibid., Table 3 "Changes in Time Allocation in Five Societies, 1965-1980s." | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/03/23 06:44 PM |
| 35 | Traditional house chores done by menThere's actually good reason to think men do quite a bit more than women. That's because there are biases in what gets included in these studies. For example, a woman driving the kids to a ballgame gets to include the time she spent driving on her survey. But a man commuting to work doesn't get to include his time driving. Plus many household tasks that men complete are just plain left out. Warren Farrell put together a male housework list and found that only about 10% of his list was captured b… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/03/23 05:56 PM |
| 54 | Traditional house chores done by menMen often don't notice themselves what they do for their families. One study mentioned by Farrell found that women exaggerate the amount of time they spend doing chores -- by a factor of 3! Whereas men underestimate their contributions by a full half. So if a man estimates he puts in 10 hours a week at home, in reality he's doing 20. And if a woman estimates she's doing 60, in reality she's only doing 20 as well. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/03/23 05:35 PM |
| 38 | Traditional house chores done by menPreviously, while reading the book by Dr. Warren Farrell, The myth of male power I saw some mentions about the traditional house chores by men, I tried to search it but I didn't find, if anyone has it then they can share it with me. A much better resource is Women Can't Hear what Men don't Say. Not just for this list you're after, but in terms of the wider issue that you're talking about. As well as how to address it in a healthy relationship (Warren Farrell is a very successful relationship cou… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/03/23 05:21 PM |
| 2 | LWMA LoungeYes there was a poster here who used to be very active who had a source about lawyers that said that. But I could never find that source later on when I needed it. As far as infanticide is concerned, there are trends that vary with the age of the child. Generally speaking, fathers are more likely to kill older children and mothers are more likely to kill younger children. In just about every category, or at least overall when you average it out, I think most of the stats are close to 50/50 thoug… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/03/23 05:05 PM |
| 7 | LWMA LoungeI don't remember this but it's definitely interesting. There was a conversation on I think r/psychology where a woman admitted to harassing a male nurse one night when she was in the hospital. And didn't even fully understand that what she did was harassment, even after it was pointed out to her by multiple people. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/03/23 04:11 PM |
| 2 | LWMA LoungeTo that I would point someone to Maslow's hierarchy of needs. Sex is on the same base level as food and shelter. Meaning it's considered a basic physical need before we even start talking about emotional and psychological needs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow%27s_hierarchy_of_needs | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/03/23 04:07 PM |
| 2 | Women could, and did, own property and have rights throughout most of history. The idea that women were "second class citizens" compared to men is a gross mischaracterization, the origins of which have effectively been debunked.To begin with, your premise is actually wrong. Women could and did work. There are numerous sources in the OP about this. The most that you'll find is a ban on female coal miners during the 1800s, which came about when a pregnant woman has a miscarriage. What I am saying is that in practice, more men worked than women because most work was physical, and pregnant women found that work to be difficult. True slavery would be requiring pregnant women to perform hard manual labor instead of focusing … | /r/MensRights | 04/03/23 02:40 PM |
| 6 | Marxism, Men’s Rights and 'the Means of Reproduction’ – A Forgotten 'Marxist-Masculist’ Men’s Rights MasterpieceMen perform domestic labor, too. Usually after they've spent all the day working. Modern time use studied show that fathers perform more combined paid and unpaid labor than mothers do. Many men feel that they are constantly "on". This is actually more of a male experience than a female experience because women are routinely given credit for domestic work and then allowed "breaks" by the father (who is expected to put in extra work to facilitate those brakes). Domestic labor can be thought of as … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/03/23 02:35 PM |
| 4 | Marxism, Men’s Rights and 'the Means of Reproduction’ – A Forgotten 'Marxist-Masculist’ Men’s Rights MasterpieceYou're talking about Engles, not Marx. That is addressed quite extensively by the author. And yes domestic labor is a thing. But would it interest you to know that most people -- around 80% of both men and women -- prefer domestic labor over paid labor? Like literally if you give people a choice to be paid to stay home and do chores, most people will take that offer. One difference between domestic and paid labor is you perform that labor for yourself and for your loved ones. If I build a new de… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/03/23 02:21 PM |
| 13 | Marxism, Men’s Rights and 'the Means of Reproduction’ – A Forgotten 'Marxist-Masculist’ Men’s Rights MasterpieceLook up maternal gatekeeping. That's exactly when this type of research started. Many of it was conducted by non-radical feminists. They argued that women will never be equal in the workplace so long as men are never equal at home. Warren Farrell has written a lot about the shift in feminism away from this logic during the 3rd wave. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/03/23 03:49 AM |
| 18 | Marxism, Men’s Rights and 'the Means of Reproduction’ – A Forgotten 'Marxist-Masculist’ Men’s Rights MasterpieceThe green pill is u/manumiss1on. The whole sex for money thing, as like a systemic pattern in society (beyond just prostitution), is kind of like the elephant in the room that nobody wants to touch. We literally institutionalize it via marriage and divorce laws. So that's a big place we need to start if we want to deconstruct some of these gender norms. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/03/23 11:28 PM |
| 2 | Marxism, Men’s Rights and 'the Means of Reproduction’ – A Forgotten 'Marxist-Masculist’ Men’s Rights MasterpieceI'm honestly not sure. It's kind of like a double standard. Like how Marxist theory (or even just regular liberalism) gets applied to women but never to men. Or it can be thought of as like a blind spot for the left. Maybe the best tag would just be discussion in most cases. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/03/23 11:20 PM |
| 7 | Marxism, Men’s Rights and 'the Means of Reproduction’ – A Forgotten 'Marxist-Masculist’ Men’s Rights MasterpieceThere are some points you brought up that are addressed. Some are entire bolded sections that preemptively answer some of those criticisms. I actually just ignored some of those when I responded to you earlier for that reason, just to focus on the thesis, which I do think you can get out without reading the whole thing. (I won't give you a hard time for not reading all of it, because it is a long post, but it is kind of ironic that you fist say you didn't read it all, and then you have bullet po… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/03/23 10:20 PM |
| 7 | Marxism, Men’s Rights and 'the Means of Reproduction’ – A Forgotten 'Marxist-Masculist’ Men’s Rights MasterpieceYeah, and women perform reproductive labour and give up part of its fruits to the father (gene passage) and eventually all of them to society (the child becomes an adult, and engages in labour independently of the parents). Both sides give something up. Is it fair? Is it not? Can this question even be answered? This is what my original response was about (the one that you seemingly agreed with, but that you apparently didn't "get" the relevance of in this context). I think this exchange between … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/03/23 10:00 PM |
| 17 | Marxism, Men’s Rights and 'the Means of Reproduction’ – A Forgotten 'Marxist-Masculist’ Men’s Rights MasterpieceWomen can be thought of as extracting surplus value from men in much the same way that capitalists extract surplus value from workers. Basically men work and then give up part of their labor to both capitalists and to women, instead of keeping it themselves. But then you have feminists who try to say that men are privileged because they're "allowed" to work, as if working for a living is a privilege. Which basically goes against the entire foundation of Marxism. If anything, women appear to be f… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/03/23 09:16 PM |
| 26 | Marxism, Men’s Rights and 'the Means of Reproduction’ – A Forgotten 'Marxist-Masculist’ Men’s Rights MasterpieceThere are Marxist feminists who have grappled with this and came to the same conclusion. If you read between the lines, this writer (a feminist) basically said that staying home while men worked for a living was a privilege for women. A trade-off, with some downsides, that most women were willing to take because it was still better than supporting yourself inside of a capitalist economy: https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comments/oup51x/the_feminist_challenge_to_socialist_history_wh… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/03/23 08:56 PM |
| 24 | Marxism, Men’s Rights and 'the Means of Reproduction’ – A Forgotten 'Marxist-Masculist’ Men’s Rights MasterpieceMy view is that men as providers probably made sense for most of human history given what women go through, and need to do, for reproduction. People forget that in history, most women were either pregnant or nursing for most of their adult lives. And it's just kind of difficult to do a lot of things when you're either 9 months pregnant, or have a 1 year old at your teat. In the modern world though, things are very different. Women do not spend most of their lives pregnant and nursing. Plus many … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/03/23 08:28 PM |
| 12 | How to distinguish pathologization of male sexual desire from victim-blaming in the topic of clothing moderation?There are some men who don't want to be bombarded with sexual imagery because they don't want to be horned up all the time. It's not an argument that revealing clothing makes women a target or excuses assault. Just that it's unnecessary in like a professional environment. Especially when male atire is already heavily regulated in the same context. The other side of this is women who complain about attention from men while wearing revealing clothing. Like getting mad at a guy looking at her cleav… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/03/23 04:13 PM |
| 15 | How to distinguish pathologization of male sexual desire from victim-blaming in the topic of clothing moderation?I don't necessarily agree with your premise, but I can play devil's advocate for you. One thing that comes to mind is you could compare this to clothing requirements in public, and to indecent exposure. Is it ok to force people to wear something overtop their underwear? Why is that not "patriarchal control", but having standards about (say) cleavage is? Why does seeing someone naked in public upset us? Why does seeing someone in just their underwear upset us? Why does seeing a guy's bulge upset … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/03/23 02:34 PM |
| 2 | Women could, and did, own property and have rights throughout most of history. The idea that women were "second class citizens" compared to men is a gross mischaracterization, the origins of which have effectively been debunked.It's very difficult for someone 9 months pregnant to earn a living. Especially back when earning a living meant hard manual labor. Even when not pregnant, infants need fed regularly throughout the day. So you're either large with a baby or you have a one year old hanging from your teat. And you want that person to work in the fields or the coal mines to earn a living without any assistance from the father who helped create those children? That, my friend, would be slavery and oppression. There's… | /r/MensRights | 03/03/23 01:38 PM |
| 23 | The phrase "Toxic masculinity" is sexist towards menToxic masculinity has received a lot of backlash from professional and academic psychologists over the last few years. There are at least two university level psychology textbooks that call it unscientific and harmful. It's an example of what's known as a deficit approach, which contrasts against the more modern positive psychology. It's also literally a textbook example of something known as labeling theory (kind of like how people are afraid of chemicals because we talk about toxic chemicals a… | /r/MensRights | 03/03/23 01:26 PM |
| 2 | The prevalence of violence against women and girls is exaggerated by statistics. Debunking myths about violence against women and girls.I think what's happened is we now have a spectrum of "abuse", all of which gets labeled under the most extreme descriptor in that category. So you can be beaten to death. Or you can be yelled at. And both will be considered domestic violence. You can be forced at gun point to have sex with someone. Or you can have someone make an off color sexual joke. And both will be considered sexual assault. As you said several times, we don't need to downplay or minimize the less extreme end of the spectrum… | /r/MensRights | 03/03/23 07:25 AM |
| 1 | Women could, and did, own property and have rights throughout most of history. The idea that women were "second class citizens" compared to men is a gross mischaracterization, the origins of which have effectively been debunked.The purpose of dowry is to replace the husband's role as a breadwinner in the case of a divorce or early death (leaving her widowed without a man to provide for her). It is money that's put aside for the wife that she gets to use to support herself if her husband is no longer around for any reason. So it is actually meant to protect her from having to work for a living. Which makes it kind of funny when people act like it's proof of female oppression or something. Dowry, and it's various version… | /r/MensRights | 01/03/23 04:47 PM |
| 6 | How the Manosphere led us to develop better mental health services for men — The Centre for Male PsychologyMen's mental health gets stigmatized from all sides. On the one hand, men are told to fix things themselves. But when they do, they are told that they're toxic or "reactionary". We have quietly been making progress though. And the results of that progress are starting to speak on their own against all of the critics. | /r/MalePsychology | 01/03/23 04:01 PM |
| 15 | How the Manosphere led us to develop better mental health services for men — The Centre for Male PsychologyWe do the same thing with women in a clinical setting. What they're describing is cognitive behavioral therapy or CBT. I know it sounds off in this context because of the way men's mental health has been stigmatized by radfems. But this is the goal of most forms of therapy. Controlling your emotions is what an emotionally healthy person does. And learning those skills is a good thing. The irony is that men might be a little better at this by default than women, for whatever reason (social condit… | /r/MenSupportMen | 01/03/23 03:47 PM |
| 30 | It's time to talkFamily breakdown and especially separation from children is a huge factor in many suicide attempts. I've seen some sources speculate that it might be the largest cause of male suicide. And it makes sense. Not only have you lost your family, but you're probably paying financially for it as well. Not to mention many of those relationships may have been abusive. And then that abuse continues through administrative violence in the form of parental alienation, child support, palimony, false allegatio… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/03/23 02:40 PM |
| 30 | It's time to talkThis may be a fundamental difference in how men and women process stressors in their lives. It's a common stereotype that when women talk about their problems to men, men often erroneously try to fix them, because that's how men think about things. But lots of times all women want to do is vent and have someone listen to them. That then explains why talk therapy is so effective with women. So when that doesn't work with men, a lot of people start rationalizing that men just need to be more like … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/03/23 02:23 PM |
| 28 | I can't be the only one?In some ways the energy, time, and money that women have to advocate for themselves is a reflection of their privileged position in society. How many married men have the time, money, spare emotional energy, or even permission (from their wives) to advocate for themselves? Instead they're spending all their time working, commuting, working more when they get home, and then spending what's left over trying to keep their wives happy. Even single men use what's left over to court women and focus on… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/02/23 07:43 PM |
| 8 | The portrayal of Bandit Heeler in "Bluey"Idk there was a lot of "mom knows best" in that one. He was portrayed as "babysitting" their youngest in one of the scenes. There's some context there that adds humor to it but at the end it the day it's still playing up the bumbling dad trope. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/02/23 07:20 PM |
| 7 | Does the inherent Class Denialism of Feminism make it not Left Wing?Here's a link to Mary Marcy's book Women As Sex Vendors. https://archive.org/details/womenassexvendor00tobiiala/mode/1up You can find a really insightful review on Amazon here: "Marxism, Men’s Rights and 'the Means of Reproduction’ – A Forgotten 'Marxist-Masculist’ Men’s Rights Masterpiece" https://www.amazon.com/review/R2LHR9TQ05F5SZ I'm thinking about transposing that in a submission here, but I think it breaks Reddit's character limit. This is the only thing I looked up from parent's comment.… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/02/23 02:38 PM |
| 1 | Modern day dating is basically a winner takes all market…I would agree that it's probably not as extreme as some people think. But something in that direction might be true. And that's basically what you're saying with the "it's probably not 20% of guys but maybe 50%". I think the base data probably supports a more sober conclusion as well. But in a sense you're already leaning in that direction. It's almost common sense tbh. Your poly anecdote - do those women think they’re in polygamous relationships with those 4 or 5 guys? Or they have 1 main guy a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/23 12:34 PM |
| 20 | Modern day dating is basically a winner takes all market…How do you explain the recent rise of "Are we dating the same guy" communities? You're pretty confident that these women you know are dating guys who are exclusive. At least all but the 3 casual ones. And even in that pool of 3 casual ones, how many other casual relationships do you think those guys have? How many other casual relationships do those girls have besides those guys (that one is rhetorical of course since you've indicated that they're exclusive, but not necessarily their partners). … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/23 12:44 AM |
| 12 | "Patriarchy hurts men too!"Slide 6 at the very end there's a trailing colon after Randolph Nesse's credentials. Also slide three with the pyramid might not be obvious to people unfamiliar with the apex fallacy. Like where the middle blue section is meant to represent women, and the top and bottom meant to represent men. It's not a huge flaw if they don't understand what the pyramid is. That's just what I thought when I first saw it. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/02/23 12:25 AM |
| 2 | The left's issue with "ironic misogyny"Bruh I'm a liberal feminist. Do you know that that means? That means I reject the idea that men oppress women. It means I see gender issues as being caused by natural and emergent gender norms that, in the modern era, need to be reconsidered. But that probably made sense for thousands of years. Due to the basic fact that men and women are different (for example most women can get pregnant) but still need to work together to raise the next generation. I therefore reject patriarchy theory as a deb… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/02/23 11:53 PM |
| 2 | My GF sleeps with her momOne thing to think about is you will have times when you will want to sleep alone, or at least with her not on top of you, during your relationship. You're going to be sick and up coughing. Or she'll be sick and up coughing. Or it will be too hot in the house. Something. Anything. It happens. You will want, and probably need, space to sleep by yourself. And the more clingy she is in that regard, the more you're probably going to need it. And the more problems it will cause when you do. If you're… | /r/MenSupportMen | 22/02/23 12:29 AM |
| 6 | Why I hate the term "male gaze": yet another example of how feminism perpetuates selectively conservative ideas like "traditional female gender norms = bad, traditional male gender norms = good".My guess is being blind to another person being anything but a sex (or success) object. Especially in civilized company at like an office where we're expected to put our mammal brains to the side for a while (within reason IMO... we are still mammals after all). I'm not sure how this distinction changes the conversion, but I do think it's an important nuance. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/02/23 04:28 PM |
| 5 | [Essay] Progressives/feminists are bad at talking about men’s issuesGoing by their logic, men still don't have the right to vote. In many places you have to register for military service to be able to vote. And there are men who refuse to do that. Which means not all men can vote. Yet all women can. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/02/23 03:40 PM |
| 21 | [Essay] Progressives/feminists are bad at talking about men’s issuesIn most parts the world, men and women gained voting rights within the same generation. Usually during the same decade. In many places it was WW1 that brought about suffrage for men, due to the draft. And after we gave it to men most people just figured we should go ahead and do the same thing for women. So you see this trend where men were granted voting rights in 1914, and then women had those same rights by the early 1920s. Men gained the right to vote off great sacrifices that they made for … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/02/23 09:22 PM |
| 22 | [Essay] Progressives/feminists are bad at talking about men’s issuesThe Privileged Sex by Martin van Creveld goes over a lot of these myths. I'd highly recommend that OP check it out. This was my only real criticism of his post. The history of gender relations is one where men coddled and protected women. Sometimes that was to the detriment of women, but it was often to the detriment of men as well. Like we banned women from coal mines after a pregnant women had a miscarriage in a coal mine, for example. Not because we hated women but because we figured the job … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/02/23 08:17 PM |
| 8 | Help! Looking for a specific resource.Was it John Barry? Look up the Palgrave Handbook for Male Psychology. I think there's a chapter about men's sheds which is founded basically on the idea that you're talking about. There's also the male psychology section of the BPS. https://www.bps.org.uk/member-microsites/male-psychology-section Edit: https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-030-04384-1_32 There are a few authors there but Louise Liddon is listed first, which I assume makes her the main author of that section. You could … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/02/23 06:50 AM |
| 14 | Austrian state news presenting data that shows men disadvantaged in health, but twisting it to the opposite.I’ve always wondered what it would be like if women stopped seeing articles, reading news and hearing the generally public framing things to suit the “women are victims” narrative. This is a huge problem for everyone and I think it helps ruin relationships. Women feel used because all they hear about is the unpaid labor gap or how men are exploiting them. They never stop to think that maybe cooking and cleaning isn't so bad after their husband works all day and comes home to mow the yard. That m… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/02/23 02:10 AM |
| 30 | The left's issue with "ironic misogyny"The irony is the radical feminist movement holds a tremendous amount of power. Both socially and institutionally. They hold power all the up through the UN via UN Women. Where among many things the UN has denied aid to men but not women, and has established "toilet day" over top IMD. But yeah please tell me how they're the underdogs with no power so they can say and do whatever they want without it being "sexism". | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/02/23 01:35 PM |
| 2 | Police brutality is a men's issueProbably Bad faith actors will "misread" that even more though. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/02/23 05:23 PM |
| 3 | Men's Centers on College campuses.Toronto famously used to have one. CAFE has some articles about it on their website. I'm not sure what happened to it but it was part of the backdrop that led to Warren Farrell and several other psychologists hosting a conference on the male suicide epidemic at the university. That was then promptly protested by feminists who made themselves look terrible protesting an event about men's mental health. Followed by a male mental health center being established in the city outside of the university… | /r/MensRights | 15/02/23 03:09 PM |
| 2 | Have any companies started to offer insurance for men's rights issues?Legal insurance is very cheap. Easily under $30 a month on the high end. There are a ton of providers out there so you can shop around for the best rate. Your employer might pay for part of it also. I highly recommend looking into it. | /r/MensRights | 15/02/23 03:05 PM |
| 3 | Gender Differences Are Encoded Differently in the Structure and Function of the Human Brain Revealed by Multimodal MRISome of these differences can be explained by sex hormones. One brain region in particular that's about twice as large in men has a huge number of testosterone receptors. That brain region modulates the startle response. It is primarily inhibitive so more neurons = less likely to be startled. Which is a known gender difference. | /r/Male_Studies | 15/02/23 01:24 PM |
| -3 | Police brutality is a men's issueSo.... What? What are you trying to imply? I 100% understand what that might look like, but there are very real structural determinants of this problem. Mainly surrounded by poverty and historical discrimination in housing. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/02/23 01:14 PM |
| 39 | CDC young men kill themselves 4.5x the rate of young women, young women most affect/r/psychology isn't any better. Which is kind of funny because just yesterday we were talking about the women are wonderful effect and the empathy gap... Both of which are studied by academic psychology. It was pointed out that even psychologists, and people in that sub, are guilty of those biases. Then bam this hits the front page and people can't see the hypocrisy for what it is... | /r/MensRights | 14/02/23 10:56 PM |
| 16 | Why rape legislation in England and Wales should be gender neutral and is more than just semanticsIt's very much appreciated. Half the problem is just documenting everything. Then there's no room to debate what the facts are. The gender bias against men is such that there isn't a lot of interest doing this type of work. So if nobody else will do it, we have to. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/02/23 05:59 PM |
| 24 | When is enough, enough?Where does this assumption that men were "horrible" to women come from exactly? For most of history men have protected and coddled women. Sometimes it came with restrictions like "women can't work in coal mines" but it's not like men didn't have restrictions, either. There were literal handbooks written for men defining what they could and couldn't do around women, for example (with most of the rules basically telling men to put women first in all circumstances). We can argue about who had thing… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/02/23 01:35 PM |
| 20 | contradictions and the origin of irrationalityThe education thing is one of the most backwards points you see today. Education has not always been a good thing. It was used superficially for thousands of years to teach manners to boys. Because we all know that boys can't behave themselves but girls can. The reality of course is that schools operated as a form of forced labor by exploiting young boys from poorer families. And the remnants of this system are still alive and well today. Even after desegregation we are still much harsher to boy… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/02/23 01:39 AM |
| 3 | Man in need of help.If you're wanting to get laid or get a girlfriend there are a couple things you can do: Expand your friends circle. Make new friends and hang out with old friends more often. They can be male or female. A lot of people get dates through friends. Just put it out there that you're looking and ask if anyone knows of any single women who are looking. Look for poly and kink groups if you want to do online dating. Those groups aren't as ratioed as the more mainstream ones. Earn more money. Literally y… | /r/MensRights | 01/02/23 04:16 PM |
| 7 | Who has it worse Men or Women?I agree with the sentiment that it's a pissing match because everyone has issues. But if this isn't a good reply, I don't know what is. The real issue is men are taught not to complain and people aren’t interested if they do. As a man the only complaints which aren’t scornfully dismissed are those which are consonant with the progressive perception: that men are privileged and suffer only as a result of trying to live up to out-dated macho stereotypes. Issues like suicide, violent crime, unemplo… | /r/MensRights | 01/02/23 03:55 PM |
| 27 | "A misandrist feminist might complain about men online but a misogynistic male can shoot up a school because he doesn't get laid."He killed more men than women. Apparently he wanted to kill men so he could have all the women to himself. Obviously this guy had issues but I don't think it's quite as simple as "he hated women so he wanted to kill them". He sounded more like a "simp" than an "incel". | /r/MensRights | 01/02/23 12:20 AM |
| 27 | "A misandrist feminist might complain about men online but a misogynistic male can shoot up a school because he doesn't get laid."There's one who thought women should kill their husbands to end their oppression. And another who served decades in jail for killing and torturing a man. Now she helps run women's marches and is celebrated for being "brave". Not to mention the stuff that Erin Pizzey went through. Bomb threats. Had her dog murdered. Etc. All for trying to create domestic violence services for men. | /r/MensRights | 01/02/23 12:15 AM |
| 3 | Building for a future that doesn't existI think that men spend the majority of their lives building toward a future of their own design...For both traditional and modern women this is not the case whatsoever. Both instances of women are simply passengers in the future toward what man they will choose. They are like receptive children, thinking they are flowers to be plucked out of the garden and given everything. 💯 There are women who aren't like this of course, but that is a huge difference between the average man and the average wom… | /r/MensRights | 31/01/23 09:32 PM |
| 14 | Having a debate about overall court bias in class, my group is fortunately all males, any credited sources I can use?Court bias and legal discrimination against men (list of sources) https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/g50qou/court_bias_and_legal_discrimination_against_men/ Reference Book of Men's Issues https://www.reddit.com/r/rbomi/wiki/main/ | /r/MensRights | 31/01/23 04:08 PM |
| 2 | Is pornography degrading to women? Or does society just have a problem being open about male sexuality?They looked into it from a scientific / experimental perspective. Basically people have been writing about this for a really long time, but it's all just been opinion and radical feminist stuff, not objective or factual. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 31/01/23 03:28 PM |
| 22 | Yes, men too.There is a type of sexual harassment that targets guys who have problems with women. Like in terms of not being able to get dates, or not being conventionally attractive enough for most women. It comes from a different (probably worse) place than what you see with attractive guys. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/01/23 05:45 PM |
| 6 | A lot of "left wing" people revert to "bootstraps" mentality when it comes to men and dating. Has anybody else noticed this?I know an autistic guy who has a very beautiful wife. His trick is he's really smart and makes a lot of money. That's literally all it is. He's noticeably autistic and doesn't do that mask thing you're talking about. He just has money. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/01/23 10:22 PM |
| 20 | A lot of "left wing" people revert to "bootstraps" mentality when it comes to men and dating. Has anybody else noticed this?There are at least two studies that linked suicide to domestic violence and found that more men in total are killed by domestic violence than women when you included suicide. This includes assisted suicides where it's blatant that the girlfriend wanted her boyfriend to commit suicide, sometimes even helping him do it. http://europepmc.org/article/PMC/4967366 https://www.emerald.com/insight/content/doi/10.5042/jacpr.2010.0141/full/html | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/01/23 10:13 PM |
| 7 | Is pornography degrading to women? Or does society just have a problem being open about male sexuality?It doesn't have to be one or the other. Equality for men can also help women. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/01/23 10:07 PM |
| 4 | Here's something you can do if you're lonelyThat's the criteria they used to test the idea. It's early research at this point with known limitations, so that might technically be what this study found. But the authors have an idea that it could be a broadly useful intervention strategy for loneliness and not just social anxiety. | /r/MenSupportMen | 29/01/23 03:08 PM |
| 88 | Is pornography degrading to women? Or does society just have a problem being open about male sexuality?The idea that men want to degrade women through sex was popularized by radical feminists who interpret everything through a lense where men try to control and oppress women. Unfortunately, this idea is now ubiquitous in modern society and has become institutionalized in many places. If feminists would just bother to ask men what they thought though, they would see something completely different. For example, most men will tell you that sex has more to do with pleasing their partners than themsel… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/01/23 10:39 PM |
| 17 | The forgotten men of feminismHuh? With $269 Million they only managed to reach .3% of the US population? Seems wildly inefficient... Part of where that money goes is to lobbying. They take public money and use it to pay lobbyists to ask for even more public money. It's a similar system that you see with the military industrial complex and the prison industrial complex. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/01/23 08:13 PM |
| 8 | The forgotten men of feminismAbsolutely. There are some people who care. And not everyone with the feminist lable falls in line with institutional feminism. I will still call them ignorant for using the lable. But at least they're trying. Honestly these are the kinds of people we need to be talking to since actually caring about men in the first place is half the problem. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/01/23 08:08 PM |
| 2 | [18M] I'm suddenly annoyed at my parents all the time for no discernable reason. Just a normal puberty thing or what?I think it's common for parent / child relationships to be strained around that time. Your parents are getting older and want to cash in on being friends with you instead of just being your parents. And they're probably wondering how good of a job they did raising you, or at least if you resent them or not. Plus they might have extra time on their hands being older, not doing the parenting thing anymore, and also being close to retirement. So they have more free time and might be bored. At the s… | /r/MenSupportMen | 27/01/23 04:11 PM |
| 3 | Why do women always have to “marry up?” In college most of my class was girls putting males down who were their equals. They always said they deserved to marry up like to a professor or Doctor. Why isn’t an equal partner good enough?This doesn't have anything to do with feminism: it's radical feminism specifically that's the problem. And yes radical feminism is born from racism. I'm sorry that offends you and your white fragility, but that's the truth. So please check your privilege. In the above link you can find college level textbooks, as well as peer reviewed papers, and educational materials from Oxford University, that go over this myth, as well as it's origins in the radical feminist movement. You have all that infor… | /r/MensRights | 25/01/23 12:25 AM |
| 9 | Should there be a push for more men to study psychology?To add to what a-man-from-earth said, psychiatry is (usually) part of STEM. I'd probably argue that nursing is as well, since medicine is a science, even if it's not usually categorized that way. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31800109/ I like what you're thinking. But it's also interesting and kind of to the point that we automatically assume psychiatry and nursing aren't part of STEM. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/01/23 12:10 AM |
| 3 | Why do women always have to “marry up?” In college most of my class was girls putting males down who were their equals. They always said they deserved to marry up like to a professor or Doctor. Why isn’t an equal partner good enough?If you want peer reviewed academic sources, there are probably at least 10 on coverture here: https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/iu2ebj/women_could_and_did_own_property_and_have_rights/ It's honestly offensive to compare women to slaves. I don't know your gender but I'm going to call you white, because only a privileged white would think to do that. That's actually where this myth came from: upper class white women who hated their husbands and had too much free time on their hands (a p… | /r/MensRights | 24/01/23 11:41 PM |
| 3 | Why do women always have to “marry up?” In college most of my class was girls putting males down who were their equals. They always said they deserved to marry up like to a professor or Doctor. Why isn’t an equal partner good enough?No that's not close to being true. Radical feminists have basically rewritten the history of coverture to make that claim, but any historian (or any feminists who isn't a radical) will tell you it's false. Coverture actually put more on the shoulders of the husband than it did the wife because it basically put everything in his name, while still letting her do whatever she wanted as if she were him. That didn't mean that women couldn't take out loans or hold jobs. It just meant those loans and p… | /r/MensRights | 24/01/23 06:00 PM |
| 9 | Let's stop using 'incel' as an insultYes, research says that but we shouldn't generalize promiscuous men. Yeah I think that's important too. It's just kind of ironic how backwards the logic around this is from reality. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/01/23 05:50 PM |
| 10 | Why do women always have to “marry up?” In college most of my class was girls putting males down who were their equals. They always said they deserved to marry up like to a professor or Doctor. Why isn’t an equal partner good enough?It was usually the case around the world that women could own land and do anything a man could do, they just didn't because it wasn't expected of them. Instead they had children. Which was quite the ordeal back then. Patriarchal systems of inheritance sometimes existed among the nobility, especially in Medieval Europe. But the practical importance of a man inheriting money and power from his parents, and a woman inheriting money and power from her in-laws, meant very little for the vast majority… | /r/MensRights | 24/01/23 01:50 AM |
| 25 | Why do women always have to “marry up?” In college most of my class was girls putting males down who were their equals. They always said they deserved to marry up like to a professor or Doctor. Why isn’t an equal partner good enough?There's a lot of research showing that most women put husband hunting in front of job hunting because they'd rather marry someone who has money than earn that money themselves. That's why there's a wage gap. Men work on their careers to attract women while women put their careers second to focus on landing the guys who make it in their careers. You can't end the wage gap without first ending the inequality that exists in the dating world. | /r/MensRights | 24/01/23 01:09 AM |
| 17 | Why do women always have to “marry up?” In college most of my class was girls putting males down who were their equals. They always said they deserved to marry up like to a professor or Doctor. Why isn’t an equal partner good enough?A lot of it has to do with the biology of carrying and nursing children. Even today women who want children have to balance that with their professional lives. It wasn't a case of men banning women from things because they thought they were less than them. It was just the biological reality that it's hard to plow a field when you're 9 months pregnant and have a 1 year old still hanging from your teet. The sooner we can get away from this false narrative of blaming men for everything, the sooner … | /r/MensRights | 24/01/23 01:05 AM |
| 1 | Need some advice from older and wiser menMost of the women that you'll date will be mutual acquaintances with other people you know. So one of the best things you can do is make more friends, especially with other guys. Most guys do not behave the way your friend does. They'll usually try to help you with women instead. So being friends with that guy is really hurting you right now. Since you're starting college, it will be a great time to make new friends. Don't forget to befriend women, also. Even if those friendships don't go anywhe… | /r/MenSupportMen | 24/01/23 12:35 AM |
| 50 | Let's stop using 'incel' as an insultIt's also caused by the media incorrectly labeling these people and their motives. The best example of this I can think of was a guy on Reddit who killed I think 2 or 3 people, and was active on the incel Reddit. So the media played into the moral panic narrative that incels are dangerous mass murderers. The reality is the guy was being abused by his parents or by school teachers (I can't remember exactly what the situation was). And the people he killed were people who were either abusing him, … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/01/23 11:21 PM |
| 38 | Let's stop using 'incel' as an insultThe difference is you can be a virgin on purpose, or just not care. You can think of virginity and celibacy as being the same thing, at least in this context. So an incel is involuntarily celibate, as in a virgin not by choice. And since everyone assumes all guys want to have sex all the time, they assume all virgin guys are incels. Then they try to say that being an incel makes you hate women. Which as parent pointed out is itself an insult; as a society (and probably as an entire species), we … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/01/23 10:55 PM |
| 2 | "Men built the system!"Several polls over there have found a pretty even distribution, with the average being close to the middle or slightly on the left. Although that doesn't mean those people post the most. That's just the distribution of people idly browsing and then answering a poll. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/01/23 12:03 AM |
| 48 | Just left the "Dating over 50" subThere are Facebook groups called "am I dating the same guy" now. They've gotten really popular here recently. And I mean I'm sorry ladies but if you have to ask, you probably are. Those groups are apparently filled with rampant sexism / misandry which I think says a lot about the modern dating world: a bunch of bitter women going after the same guys, and then a bunch of left out guys who are bitter also. | /r/MensRights | 22/01/23 11:00 PM |
| 15 | what are examples of women being allowed to be careless where men aren’t?It's not the same but it's not irrelevant, either. Also I don't think that's what people really mean when they talk about this. Women just have more outs in general in life. People don't expect them to have to support themselves or try as hard as men. At least as individuals. Like taking responsibility for your career, earning your own money, owning up to your decisions in life and facing the consequences of those decisions, etc. Abortion is just one small aspect where women can in fact have sex… | /r/MensRights | 17/01/23 12:13 AM |
| 39 | what are examples of women being allowed to be careless where men aren’t?Your career, and life choices in general, don't matter as much because a lot of women will just find a man who made all the right choices in life, and then marry him. It doesn't always work out but there's definitely more of a cushion there. Even with marriage, a guy will sink everything he has into a home and setting up a life with a woman. Well she can always leave, take some of his money if she wants (leaving him stuck financially), and just find some other guy to do the same thing for her ag… | /r/MensRights | 16/01/23 11:58 PM |
| 3 | Why does nobody give overworked fathers any credit?What I've managed to get across is that I do plenty enough. You can stand up for yourself but it takes time and patience. I don't know if some women can be stubborn, or if these things are so ingrained in society that it makes it an uphill battle. But you're arguing against a perception of reality. It's almost like changing someone's religion. It doesn't change what needs done though. And for the most part I don't mind stepping up and doing what needs done. I just don't want to be told that I do… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/01/23 02:40 PM |
| 1 | What is male psychology?I see what you're saying. But I think there's some confusion. In the academic world, I would estimate that there are more men than women, at least when it comes to male psychology specifically. Yes in therapy there are a lot more women, and it probably wouldn't hurt to have more men. But these are two separate fields that we're talking about. Many women who publish and work in academic psychology would probably agree with you, to an extent anyway. | /r/MalePsychology | 14/01/23 10:46 PM |
| 0 | What is male psychology?There are a lot of women working in this field who have been very valuable. I understand where you're coming from, but it's not as helpful as you think it is. | /r/MalePsychology | 14/01/23 10:10 PM |
| 7 | Why does nobody give overworked fathers any credit?You'll hear guys say all the time that it sucks and drives you crazy, but having kids was the best decision they ever made. Part of the problem is just capitalism. We went from needing 40 hours a week to pay our bills, to 80 hours a week. Usually split close to 50 / 30 between the father / mother. So there's just not enough time between two people to do everything. The reality though is everything extra always lands on the guy's shoulders. I don't know if you can blame feminism for that, gender … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/01/23 05:47 PM |
| 29 | Why does nobody give overworked fathers any credit?I was just talking to a co-worker about this. He said he's up and down all evening when he gets home. Because his wife will get comfortable somewhere and refuse to move. Even for herself. So she'll want some popcorn and he has to be the one to get up to get it for her. So it kind of seems like both of you are relaxing a bit. But how relaxed are you, as the guy, if you're the one who has to get up every time someone wants or needs something? Getting up to get some popcorn might sound kind of triv… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/01/23 04:56 PM |
| 2 | New research questions if pornography is degrading to women, or if we only say that because of unfair stereotypes about menI have nothing against people who don't want to watch porn. That's really not what this is about at all. | /r/MensRights | 14/01/23 01:54 PM |
| 6 | Are men at fault for women divorcing men?The study shows that most women marry men who they believe will have a high future earnings potential. Which is just slightly more words, but the same meaning, as what I said earlier. I mean do you honestly think you have a point here? Seriously just think for a second about what you read and what you just said... This has to be the worst argument from semantics that I've ever seen. | /r/MensRights | 14/01/23 02:57 AM |
| 8 | Are men at fault for women divorcing men?A loss of income is the single largest predictive factor for a wife wanting to divorce her husband. The same is not true the other way around. And interestingly, a wife's inability or refusal to "cook and clean" does not effect a husband's willingness to divorce her, either. https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/akillewald/files/money_work_and_marital_stability.pdf Basically, the number one reason women divorce their husbands is because he's not making enough money. That's also the main reason women… | /r/MensRights | 14/01/23 12:12 AM |
| 6 | Toxic Masculinity or Toxic Femininity? | “Feminism” is an empty virtue signal. It is no more than a cover for wolves to hide in sheep’s clothing.This is what a leftist moral panic looks like. If you don't know what that is, look at all the crazy stuff American conservatives did during the 1980s and 1990s when they were convinced Satanists were infiltrating schools and kidnapping children. Harry Potter and D&D were both blamed for the moral decay of society which was turning everyone into Satan worshipers. | /r/MensRights | 14/01/23 12:06 AM |
| 2 | An Analysis of Transgenderism and It’s Connection to Kink (Not specifically a men’s rights issue until you realize this was pushed by feminism and the female proclivity to emotion and cope)There's research showing that there are biological causes, even before you're born. The BNST in particular is about twice as large in cis men compared to cis women. It is inhibitory and plays a role with things like aversion and startle, which are known sex differences between men and women. Well what they've found is that MRI scans of trans individuals, including pre transitional trans people, usually match their gender identities instead of their biological sex. https://doi.org/10.1016%2Fj.bee… | /r/MensRights | 13/01/23 11:22 PM |
| 8 | New research questions if pornography is degrading to women, or if we only say that because of unfair stereotypes about menWhat's the difference? | /r/MensRights | 13/01/23 10:57 PM |
| 2 | Gene regulation by gonadal hormone receptors underlies brain sex differencesTollkuhn explains that estrogen is present in the brains of both males and females: some neurons make it themselves out of testosterone. In male mice, estrogen generated through a surge of testosterone that is released soon after birth shapes developing circuitry. As a result, certain brain regions are larger and contain more cells in males than they do in females—a difference that affects a range of behaviors in adulthood, including mating, parenting, and aggression. “There’s this critical peri… | /r/Male_Studies | 13/01/23 10:49 PM |
| 5 | Gene regulation by gonadal hormone receptors underlies brain sex differencesAbstract Oestradiol establishes neural sex differences in many vertebrates1,2,3 and modulates mood, behaviour and energy balance in adulthood4,5,6,7,8. In the canonical pathway, oestradiol exerts its effects through the transcription factor oestrogen receptor-α (ERα)9. Although ERα has been extensively characterized in breast cancer, the neuronal targets of ERα, and their involvement in brain sex differences, remain largely unknown. Here we generate a comprehensive map of genomic ERα-binding sit… | /r/Male_Studies | 13/01/23 10:46 PM |
| 15 | New research questions if pornography is degrading to women, or if we only say that because of unfair stereotypes about menThe researchers found that most people don't really like cumshots. The point isn't to tell women that they should like it because it's not degrading. The point was to find one of the most hated porn categories out there to test the theory that it's meant to be degrading. The logic is if pornography is meant to be degrading, we would most easily find it there instead of in other porn categories. | /r/MensRights | 13/01/23 09:25 PM |
| 20 | New research questions if pornography is degrading to women, or if we only say that because of unfair stereotypes about menReal advice. Do you know what "Chad" does to get her in the mood? All of the things society says we shouldn't do. Things that we hide from everyone publicly, but will do behind closed doors with our partners. Things that turn us on that we're not supposed to be turned on by: fetishes. Women are ashamed of them, and ("good") men refuse to do them out of respect. The difference is "good men" listen to social norms and keep up the charade privately because they think that's what they're supposed to… | /r/MensRights | 13/01/23 08:40 PM |
| 20 | New research questions if pornography is degrading to women, or if we only say that because of unfair stereotypes about men💯 It's hard to explain this to people but that's the double bind that a lot of guys are forced into. Choking? Spanking? Biting? Wanting to be "put in her place"? Hell, even just being on top is a sign of dominance, at least according to all the sex negative feminists out there who don't understand what consent is. The other side of this is many women won't tell you what they like because society tells them they shouldn't like those things. So like it goes both ways and legit harms everyone invol… | /r/MensRights | 13/01/23 07:53 PM |
| 253 | New research questions if pornography is degrading to women, or if we only say that because of unfair stereotypes about menThe idea that men want to degrade women through sex was first popularized by radical feminists who interpreted everything through a lense where men try to dominate and oppress women. Unfortunately, this idea is now ubiquitous in modern society and has become institutionalized in many places. If people would just bother to ask men what they thought though, they'd paint a picture that's completely different from what people accuse them of. For example, most men will tell you that sex has more to d… | /r/MensRights | 13/01/23 03:50 PM |
| 24 | Helping male victims of domestic abuse can benefit society as a wholeIn fairness this is backed by evidence based research. Many couples just don't know how to communicate properly. So they argue and start yelling and just don't know how to stop. The sooner you intervene and engage them in couples counseling, the better chance you have at keeping things from escalating and getting out of hand. It's long been recognised that the best way to end violence against women is to end violence against men. That's just not a very pc way of looking at things, because most p… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/01/23 01:58 PM |
| 0 | Does anyone here have experience with polyamory?Swinging isn’t about communal relationship structures anyway, it’s just switching up who you fuck mostly. Not necessarily. There's a huge overlap. Many poly couples also swing. Swinging is more classy and formal. It's usually for people who like expensive restaurants and dressing up. That's why there's a fee to begin with. You're paying for catering at an upscale hotel, or renting out a nice venue. I think that’s a good argument for poly communities being overall better In the poly world you sti… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/01/23 01:31 PM |
| 1 | Does anyone here have experience with polyamory?In my experience poly's something that's more often brought up in unhappy relationships to avoid breaking up, or to have a new relationship lined up before they leave their current one. You see this from vanilla couples more than anything else. Poly is very popular nowadays, like as a term, to replace any other kind of "open" relationship, including plain infidelity. It's gotten to the point that casual dating and FWB is called poly, at least until they settle down and commit to one partner. Whi… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/01/23 12:34 AM |
| 1 | Does anyone here have experience with polyamory?Join local poly and kink groups (they usually overlap). Like on Facebook or fetlife. His problem is he's on Reddit. Real world you're going to be fine. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/01/23 12:15 AM |
| 3 | Pornography’s Ubiquitous External Ejaculation: Predictors of PerceptionsHere's an article about the study that interviewed the authors. https://www.psypost.org/2022/12/psychology-researchers-are-taking-a-serious-look-at-64421 Some academics and lay people have suggested that the goal of pornography is to degrade women and have used the external ejaculation as an example of such. However, I didn’t find this convincing, as there are a lot of external ejaculations in gay porn without any women around. In addition, I had read an article in Playboy by James Petersen and … | /r/Male_Studies | 11/01/23 06:45 PM |
| 3 | Radical feminists treat men exactly how Conservatives treat minoritiesSubmit a new topic if you want 😊 | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/01/23 06:25 PM |
| 24 | Radical feminists treat men exactly how Conservatives treat minoritiesAt the risk of invoking Goodwin's Law (or something similar), I would compare it to racists. Not everyone who holds deep racial prejudice is a foaming-at-the-mouth cross-burning Klansman. Those types exist of course but racist ideals take a myriad of subtle forms that can easily slip past the radar, even to those who hold them. Ignorance can also be a factor. Technically the SJW movement considers ignorance to be a type of racism, but most people in the real world are forgiving of this and would… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/01/23 02:21 PM |
| 9 | Why men commit the most suicide ?Many women take out loans for college degrees that they never pay back. It turns into debt that their future husband has to pay off, along with the house, and his own college debt. She might "help" of course but she never intended to truly buckle down and pay for her way in life Getting educated is just a way to affirm her place in the socioeconomic hierarchy of society. Where she'll meet men who match her socioeconomic ambitions. It's a completely different motivation than you find for guys who… | /r/MensRights | 11/01/23 01:51 AM |
| 2 | Discrimination in HealthI don't have that specific study handy. There's some related information here though: https://menarehuman.com/6195-2/ And here: https://journals.lww.com/epidem/Fulltext/2001/09000/Did_Medical_Research_Routinely_Exclude_Women__An.20.aspx | /r/MensRights | 10/01/23 05:46 PM |
| 3 | Discrimination in HealthMost studies that look at that don't include things like body weight in their analysis, which can affect dosing. And the studies that are a little more robust don't find any kind of bias. But of course radical feminists ignore those (the good feminists who care about gender equality are aware that this is bs, it's only the bad feminists who think there is a bias against women). | /r/MensRights | 10/01/23 05:29 PM |
| 9 | Woke Father explains what it means when 130 feminist groups support women's violenceDefamation is literally a form of abuse. https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comments/w300zz/false_accusations_are_a_form_of_domestic_violence/ | /r/MensRights | 10/01/23 02:04 PM |
| 4 | Discrimination in HealthWhen men go to a doctor, their doctors spend less time with them and order fewer tests for them than they do their female patients. Men also face structural problems trying to see a doctor to begin with. But yes it's all men's fault because we don't spend as much time talking on the telephone or watching daytime tv dramas with our guy friends as women do. | /r/MensRights | 10/01/23 01:50 PM |
| 5 | Iran: List of individuals at risk of execution in connection with nationwide protestsI crossposted this to r/HumanRights. I hope you don't mind. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/01/23 01:26 PM |
| 3 | Domestic Violence: complex problems demand complex solutions.In the studies I've looked at, they've asked if power and control is a motivating factor for abuse. So this is in the context of things like "I was mad so I hit him" or "I wanted my partner to listen to me so I yelled at her". These are different than studies that ask what characteristics and history lead to abuse. Things like "low socioeconomic status" or "a history of childhood abuse". In fact in this context you could probably argue that greater degrees of power in society (which is linked to… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/01/23 01:14 PM |
| 1 | How to square support from economic equality, with support for sexual liberalism which creates sexual inequality?it was only men who were permitted to own land to farm on, or to own property at all In some cultures sure, but the details and extent of this are widely exaggerated. https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/iu2ebj/women_could_and_did_own_property_and_have_rights/ In ancient Egypt for example this was not the case. In Rome it depends on the specific time period you're looking at. And under coverture in England (and other common law nations), this is nothing more than a radical feminist myth … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/01/23 01:00 PM |
| 1 | How to square support from economic equality, with support for sexual liberalism which creates sexual inequality?According to Engels (The Origin of the Family, Private Property and the State) and that adam-i guy (The Empress is Naked), there's evidence of a food for sex economy in both hunter gatherer societies and in early agricultural societies. It's especially apparent in early agricultural societies where there's evidence (supposedly) of famine reducing the male population through starvation, with a significantly higher survival rate for women. So the theory is agricultural society brought with it clas… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/01/23 03:47 PM |
| 0 | Be carefull guysWould this whole mentally ill crap ever be used for a guy? I would make that argument for a guy but yeah I see what you're saying. | /r/MensRights | 07/01/23 02:13 AM |
| 10 | Be carefull guysShe has NPD. I think it's underdiagnosed in women because narcissistic tendencies are more common in women. Like if a man behaves the way a lot of "normal" women behave, we'd probably accuse him of being self-centered or having a problem. That said this behavior is not normal and is not indicative of all, or even a lot, of women. She has a problem and she needs to get help. For her sake and for other people's sake. | /r/MensRights | 06/01/23 10:34 PM |
| 27 | Male inequality, explained by an expert | Richard Reeves, BigThinkHe emphasizes GPA as the standard for "boys are dumber than girls" while ignoring standardizes testing where boys to this day still outperform girls. Some academics have argued that this gap between GPA and standardized testing is itself proof that there's a bias in education. Where we know men literally receive fewer points for identical work for no other reason than their gender. If you let an unbiased computer grade an assignment then there's suddenly no more gap. Brain differences do deserve… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/01/23 07:46 PM |
| 6 | Man legally changes gender to win custody of his daughters: Now I am also a mother (news story from Ecuador)You know we should be allies, right? This represents a lot of progress on a lot of different issues for both men and for trans people. Stop being such a pessimist and instead be happy at the progress we've been making towards equal rights. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/01/23 01:52 AM |
| 8 | Man legally changes gender to win custody of his daughters: Now I am also a mother (news story from Ecuador)I imagine most trans people would understand what's happening here and what the difference is. The guy in the article isn't actually trans, nor is he making fun of trans people. He's just a guy who found a legal loophole in order to gain equality under the law. History is full of crazier legal stunts than this one. Like giving your inheritance to your cat instead of your family when you die. Or claiming to be in a religion to do drugs. It's just how the system works. Blame the game, not the play… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/01/23 01:41 AM |
| 8 | Tired Of Hearing About "Male Domination"I get the impression that many men who are chronically single choose the other option to not put up with that dynamic. Because really as a guy that's what your choices are. People just don't realize it because society pretends this isn't a thing. When we tell single men to lower their standards to get a woman, basically what we're telling them is to accept the inequality that's baked into hetero relationship dynamics. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/01/23 01:27 AM |
| 6 | My feminist Professor has given me a Assignment regarding gender equalityYou didn't really specify if it can be about anything, or has to be about economics specifically. If it is about economics a good angle might be female purchasing power vs earnings power and how men are often treated like peons and indentured servants. Work isn't necessarily a privilege and it's something men pay for in terms of their health, happiness, and freedom. So equality really should mean women working more and men achieving greater amounts of free time so that the earnings gap can close… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/01/23 01:11 AM |
| 56 | My feminist Professor has given me a Assignment regarding gender equalityIf a feminist claim to care about men's issues and gender equality, then call their bluff. They'll either be outed as a hypocrite, or forced to agree with you on everything. In this situation I think it would be easy to talk about the importance of men's issues in the context of gender equality. You don't have to be confrontational or explicitly anti-feminist. Just assume that she's reasonable and one of the "good feminists" and then see for yourself if she is, or if she isn't. If she's is a hyp… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/01/23 01:03 AM |
| 4 | My feminist Professor has given me a Assignment regarding gender equalityThis could be your chance to open her eyes a bit. If she cares about you as a student already and knows these issues are important to you then it will hit home harder. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/01/23 12:56 AM |
| 22 | Tired Of Hearing About "Male Domination"It would be like saying a lawn mower is in charge of mowing the grass because that's what actually cuts it, and not the person who's using it. (Although sometimes the person using it really isn't in charge either; it's his wife / girlfriend sitting inside enjoying the air conditioning who is really in charge). Men in positions of power can be thought of as tools more than anything else. Just look at the Roman "empress" Agrippina. She was the sister of one emperor, the wife of another, and then t… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/01/23 01:22 PM |
| 7 | Why do we get domestic violence so wrong?Most abuse is actually reactive to other abuse. Or at least around 50% of it. One of the earliest papers studying domestic violence, authored by a feminist no less (Suzanne Steinmetz), put forward the battered husband theory to add a bit of nuance to why abuse happens. What she observed is that women yell and nag and abuse their husbands often for years without him ever fighting back, until finally he does. Which is when we finally notice it. Men are conditioned to take abuse from women by the m… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/01/23 08:52 PM |
| 18 | Has the political left failed men?I don't think that's specific to left and right. It has more to do with modernism vs post-modernism. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/01/23 05:56 PM |
| 18 | Has the political left failed men?What about power differences under the law (which explicitly protects women) or in the family? Research shows that women usually control most relationships and marriages. In fact I think the numbers there are a lot larger than our gender differences for CEOs and politicians. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/01/23 05:16 PM |
| 5 | Why do we get domestic violence so wrong?Most of the research reclassifying forced envelopment as a form of sexual assault came out after his death. That was an area of study that was taboo to look at for a very long time. Even today it could cost you tenure if you staked your career on it. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/01/23 01:43 PM |
| 12 | I need some encouragement.You've already done more for the movement than you realize. One candle lights another which lights another. If you don't make deadlines or something important this year, there's always next time. And if you never do it, it will get done eventually, in one form or another, if we keep it up. I saw a post a couple days ago from a campaign activist who probably has more pull and influence than they realize. Who knows what they'll be doing a few years from now. Who knows what their actions will inspi… | /r/MensRights | 04/01/23 02:46 AM |
| 1 | Feminist scholars claim that Australian MRAs are conspiring against feminism by hijacking Men'sHealth.Plenty of academics question the feminist narrative. You can find them in the field of psychology and in related areas like criminality and domestic violence. There's even a little bit of drama right now between the field of psychology and gender studies, with psychologists publishing papers criticizing the field outright and calling it unscientific. A few years prior there was also the grievance studies hoax which was hilarious. One problem I see in this community is ignoring all of the factual… | /r/MensRights | 03/01/23 10:33 PM |
| 17 | Has Men's Rights Activism entered a new Phase?Some people like boundaries and being told what to do. And that isn't just true for women btw. Many men find comfort in the idea that they just need to work hard and then they'll be rewarded with a nice house and a loving family. A lot of women really do like the idea of being taken care of by a man in exchange for baking pies and having a couple of kids though. Freedom can be scary to people when they don't know what to do with their lives. Which is kind of ironic given how much the right talks… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/01/23 02:52 PM |
| 1 | 337% Increase in Male Opioid Deaths: The crisis killing America's SonsThose are the vast minority, not the average. It is very difficult to nail down precisely due to the fact that these suicides are meant to be hidden to begin with. But what we've found is that around 20% of drug users self-admit to attempting suicide via overdoses when asked point blank. An even larger percentage admit to using drugs as a form of self-harm. This is called a disease of despair. It's not just people trying to get high to have fun and then accidentally taking too much. I won't disc… | /r/MensRights | 02/01/23 02:38 PM |
| 4 | 337% Increase in Male Opioid Deaths: The crisis killing America's SonsMany overdoses are suicide attempts. The higher rate of male suicide is a big reason men die from overdoses more than women. It's also a factor that goes into fatal single car accidents. Some people don't want others to know that they killed themselves so they make it look like an accident. I've been giving presentations about this for the last 3 or 4 years to addiction and rehabilitation clinics in my area. It's a shame more people aren't aware of this. | /r/MensRights | 01/01/23 04:38 PM |
| 1 | Women physically abuse their male partners at rates comparable to or moreso than the reverse, yet men are primarily cast as abusers and women as victims, studies showHere's something from last year: https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/w651d7/a_new_book_published_by_24_of_the_worlds_leading/ You'd be surprised how strong of a consensus has developed over the last 5 or 10 years on this topic. The general public is behind current academic scholarship by literally decades at this point. | /r/MensRights | 01/01/23 04:29 PM |
| 3 | I believe reddit HATES men. My experience:The other side of this is taking up space with bags and purses though. Larger guys are shamed into standing so that other people can sit. Girls with handfuls of shopping bags on the other hand are encouraged to sit down and rest because people assume they're struggling with all the stuff they bought. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/01/23 03:49 PM |
| 2 | Understanding men: The importance of workWarren Farrell talks about this some. Men are expected to be useful, which comes with both physical and psychological differences from women. Those differences can be used for good and for harm. Most men are good people just like most women are good people. But we're a little more afraid of men. Just like you'd be a little more afraid of a stick of dynamite than you would a bottle rocket. Even if you need that dynamite to help build a foundation for a hospital. Because everyone still knows it co… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/01/23 03:37 PM |
| 4 | Understanding men: The importance of workWe need to discuss emotional labor in the context of creating romance. Most women think it just happens automatically because the stars align or some other voodoo like explanation. The reality is men are the ones tasked with creating that magic, for making it feel like the stars really did align, and we're expected to keep it up on some level indefinitely. Which is a lot of work that's taken for granted. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/01/23 03:33 PM |
| 5 | My parents take my phone and enforce curfew, even though I'm 18 and I paid for the phone. What do I do?This is my thought which sucks because he's 18. It's hard to support yourself and have any kind of life at that age without your parents help. | /r/MenSupportMen | 30/12/22 04:42 PM |
| 12 | Understanding men: The importance of workWhat other areas do you think men are misunderstood? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/12/22 03:30 PM |
| 1 | The Equality Paradox: Gender Equality Intensifies Male Advantages in Adolescent Subjective Well-Beingthey are allowed more emotional expression with less fear of being ostracized, and so on. In countries with less equality, especially in terms of LGBT rights, men are more emotionally expressive than they are in Western nations. The theory is that when cis women can confuse hetero men for being gay, cis men are conditioned to behave in an exaggerated heteronormative manner. The research for this is quite interesting if you look it up. In a perfect world where equality meant equality for everyone… | /r/Male_Studies | 29/12/22 08:42 PM |
| 1 | The Equality Paradox: Gender Equality Intensifies Male Advantages in Adolescent Subjective Well-BeingFeminism wasn't shown to be harmful to anyone, but rather to increase male wellbeing. The study wasn't about feminism. It was about measures of equality. Feminism and equality are not necessarily the same thing, especially once you get past the 3rd wave and into the modern feminist movement. | /r/Male_Studies | 29/12/22 08:33 PM |
| 1 | The Equality Paradox: Gender Equality Intensifies Male Advantages in Adolescent Subjective Well-BeingThat's called stereotype bias threat. They didn't tell men and women that they're oppressors / oppressed and then ask them how they felt. Which is how most research like that works. So it's not directly about that. That message is pervasive in society though so it could very well have a background effect in these types of results. Anecdotally I've met women who hate female empowerment because it implies that women are weak and need help. | /r/Male_Studies | 23/12/22 08:58 AM |
| 16 | UK Petition: Make reporting false allegations of sexual offences a specific criminal offenceMost false accusers never go to the police. This kind of legislation is definitely a step in the right direction. But I think we need to focus on the social aspect of a false allegation by buffering laws around slander and character defamation. The legal system already gives people a (relatively) fair opportunity to defend themselves. The real damage happens outside of the legal system though. For example, many men find themselves unemployable even after being found innocent by a jury of their p… | /r/MensRights | 22/12/22 01:51 PM |
| 8 | The Equality Paradox: Gender Equality Intensifies Male Advantages in Adolescent Subjective Well-BeingThis is another study that has found what's being called a paradox when studying gender equality: men seem to benefit more from gender equality than women. A result that is surprising if you erroneously assume that inequality somehow benefits men around the world. In this case they are looking at subjective measures of well-being among adolescent children. Here is an article with a little more information: https://www.psypost.org/2022/12/gender-gap-in-subjective-well-being-might-be-larger-in-mor… | /r/Male_Studies | 22/12/22 01:06 PM |
| 18 | Shower thought: If a woman lies about her intentions during sex, for example by secretly not wanting to have sex, does that mean the guy was unable to give informed consent, and was raped?I think this is where we got lost, as a society, on this discussion. Yes there is such a thing as coercion. It's even relevant when it comes to female-on-male assault. But you're not being coerced when you regret it the next day because your sex drive took over and clouded your judgement the night before. For some reason we kept pushing the line further and further away from what rape actually is. And this is creating a lot of problems for both men and women. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/10/22 04:30 PM |
| 7 | Shower thought: If a woman lies about her intentions during sex, for example by secretly not wanting to have sex, does that mean the guy was unable to give informed consent, and was raped?I think you answered number 1 yourself already. Generally I don't think any of this is rape though. I think it could technically be under certain definitions pushed for by radical feminists, but in the real world I don't think many people would consider it rape. At least not in the male gender reversed situation (a lot of regular people do buy into radical feminist talking points when they apply them unilaterally the women). I guess it's kind of up there with being horny, having sex because your… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/10/22 03:50 PM |
| 31 | Shower thought: If a woman lies about her intentions during sex, for example by secretly not wanting to have sex, does that mean the guy was unable to give informed consent, and was raped?That's what I was thinking when I was writing this. To say that a woman who fakes interest or fakes an organsm has literally raped a man is about as ridiculous as saying a man rapes a woman when he lies about how much money he has, or lies about wanting to get married (which is legally considered rape in India, and by a lot of feminists more globally). But there is a broader discussion that needs to happen, on both sides, in this "gray" area. And right now I don't think we can have that discussi… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/10/22 03:44 PM |
| 13 | Shower thought: If a woman lies about her intentions during sex, for example by secretly not wanting to have sex, does that mean the guy was unable to give informed consent, and was raped?Yeah actually I get that. The broader point is about faking interest altogether. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/10/22 03:15 PM |
| 3 | Invitation by Warren FarrellI don't know anything about this seminar, but Farrell does discuss the role of biology in shaping gender issues a lot. Like our desires to protect women, and for men to suppress their feelings because that makes them more useful to women (in some areas, but it also creates problems for women in others). He's never indicated support for an alpha male biological determinism angle. Instead I think he wants everyone to understand that men and women are a certain way, and that's ok. Like we need to a… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/10/22 03:10 PM |
| 4 | Resources for Male domestic-abuse victimsIt's hard to do it by yourself but there are a lot of men who are forced to and successfully make it out on the other side. It gets better and you're already in the right place. I briefly went over to "MGTOW" after I got out. I think it's understandable, if only because I'm inclined to forgive myself for not being in the best headspace at the time. You're much better off over here knowing that the real problem is society and our social institutions (like family court), not women. Not all women a… | /r/MensRights | 05/10/22 02:04 AM |
| 10 | women who have never been married and are childless earn 117% of their childless male counterparts.That's been a long standing theory, but there's newer research that debunks that. It's likely that men just have more pressure in life to work harder and make sacrifices to earn more money. (While women are allowed to sit back, enjoy themselves, and eventually use these men as a substitute for having real careers themselves). Men are judged by their ability to earn money. Especially in a romantic context by women. In fact, your earnings capability is the single best predictor for whether or not … | /r/MensRights | 05/10/22 01:32 AM |
| 7 | Overlooked Victims of Domestic Violence: MenThese findings are in stark contrast to the training that victim advocates receive that tells them they need to “start” with the concerns and experiences of the victim, believe victims, not judge them, tell them that the abuse is not their fault, and offer resources. The results are also in stark contrast to the ratings of social services and police by battered women, the large majority of whom find such services helpful and would use them again. What I find interesting is that the male experien… | /r/Male_Studies | 04/10/22 01:00 AM |
| 37 | Bias in science: "women are 3-15 times more likely to be selected as members of the AAAS and NAS than men with similar publication and citation records"r/male_studies would like it (unironically). | /r/MensRights | 04/10/22 12:54 AM |
| 3 | Complex problems deserve complex answersThe socialist argument is that the capitalist class needs more workers, and they can get that by forcing working class people to have more children. Although I guess religion is the main reason for it in practice. Especially for working class people who are pro life. Incidentally, religion has taken this stance for much the same reason. That's why contraception is against the rules in many religions. More babies means more worshippers which means more money for the church. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/10/22 12:19 AM |
| 3 | Why is nobody talking about HEAL?I briefly considered education. The stigma against male educators is what made me change my mind. I don't think false allegations came to mind. But I did get a sense that I wouldn't be treated fairly because of my gender. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/10/22 12:11 AM |
| 4 | If feminists believe in combatting so called “toxic masculinity”, why are they not fighting for more positive portrayals of black and Hispanic male masculinity?Bell Hooks was really bad about this. So many black feminists are traitors. Some are ignorant but others really do just hate. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/10/22 12:06 AM |
| 20 | GF is pregnant after lying about contraceptives — a warning to all my college males out there like meThere are a couple of legal strategies that haven't been tried yet, which could set an important precedent. The National Coalition for Men would take this on. They actually had a similar case in the past destined for the supreme court, but the plaintiff (a guy that sounds a lot like OP) withdrew his case. | /r/MensRights | 28/09/22 09:49 PM |
| 48 | Out of over 5k people. 🤔Tear down the patriarchy by supporting men's rights! | /r/MensRights | 28/09/22 07:18 PM |
| 5 | Complex problems deserve complex answersI think Engels did a better job showing how capitalism harms women. It was already obvious how it harmed men so a lot of men were on board with the idea. But women didn't seem to care at the time because they weren't the ones being exploited by the bourgeoisie. Engels basically said that the exploitation of male workers kept them outside the home, which burdened women with the task of taking care of a home and raising children on their own. So they were harmed indirectly by capitalism. They were… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/09/22 04:44 PM |
| 3 | Complex problems deserve complex answersIt has fallen out of favour specifically to be replaced by the patriarchal theory of violence. Which is just as bad, and suffers from all of the same flaws that the Duluth model suffered from. Those flaws are even addressed / pointed out in the OP. They apply just as much to the patriarchal theory of violence as they do to the Duluth model. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/09/22 04:31 PM |
| 3 | Complex problems deserve complex answersThe Duluth model is related to the patriarchal theory of violence. They purport similar things and both are based on patriarchy theory. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/09/22 03:03 PM |
| 2 | Complex problems deserve complex answersOn slide 9 I would remove the word "so" at the very beginning. I think it flows just fine without it. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/09/22 02:59 PM |
| 11 | Concerning the events in IranAnother piece of context people are missing is the link between female headscarves and solidarity against Western imperialism in the Arabic world. Headscarves had almost fallen out of favour throughout most of the Arabic world. Even in places like Iran, you could find men and women wearing Western style clothing and engaging in Western style leisure. Like wearing bikinis around swimming pools. Because of deteriorating relations with the West, Arabic people started re-adopting traditional Arabic … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/09/22 02:48 PM |
| 2 | I have an idea . . . . . . .Radical feminism is the belief that women are oppressed by a patriarchy. That is the dictionary definition of radical feminism. Most feminists follow radical feminist ideology. It's not just TERFs. | /r/MensRights | 26/09/22 11:53 PM |
| 13 | Women when a women expresses a preference: she can have whatever standards she wants. Women when men express a preference: he's misogynistic, insecure ect...That's actually just a myth. https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comments/xn27xe/does_nonsuicidal_selfinjury_nssi_count_as_a/ Hospitals report any kind of self-harm as a suicide attempt. So this statistic technically doesn't exist to begin with. But even if it did, there are some glaring problems with the logic, which really just starts with a basic understanding of math and statistics (if you attempt and fail, you can obviously attempt again, thus inflating the numbers from what they… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 11:11 PM |
| 6 | Why do people refuse to believe the facts?You don't have to look further than family court to see this. Men are separated from their children, and their money, over unproven allegations of abuse. I mean what kind of world do you live in where men are never abused or taken advantage of by women? A good friend of mine received a black eye after an argument with his wife. He does door to door sales and had to go to work, and try to earn money, with a black eye. This isn't the first time something like that has happened between them. He's n… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/09/22 09:20 PM |
| 3 | LWMA LoungeHere's something interesting I found on r/psychologyofsex. From the post title: "In the modern world, stumbling across the image of a penis...is considered juvenile at best and vandalism at worst. Yet for Ancient Romans...phalluses were an essential piece of decor and considered a kind of good luck charm." https://www.sciencealert.com/unusually-large-roman-penis-sculpture-may-be-the-biggest-one-ever-found I think this is interesting because it shows how male sexuality can be presented in a posit… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/09/22 02:29 PM |
| 11 | PSA: updated policy on submissions, low effort posts, and misinformationI have a concern about this decreasing content on the sub. I personally don't think every submission has to be something that's well thought-out and well sourced. That takes some of the community out of a community. All work and no play basically. I do think click bait and misleading content should be curtailed. But I could see this having a chilling effect where people are afraid to create content because they might be "wrong". Average content that falls in between great posts and poor posts is… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/09/22 02:11 PM |
| 1 | I’m at a loss with datingYeah college isn't necessarily the time to find a "perfect" someone for the rest of your life. It's ok to play around yourself. Don't cheat obviously but don't take it as seriously, either. Ironically if you have less of a serious attitude towards it, you might end up finding someone anyway. On a personal note to OP, are you inclined to black and white thinking? This is a hallmark of BPD which can have devastating effects on people's social and romantic lives (when untreated). | /r/MenSupportMen | 25/09/22 01:40 PM |
| 5 | Does nonsuicidal self-injury (NSSI) count as a suicide attempt for statistics?The link didn't copy all the way for me. https://bmcpsychiatry.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12888-017-1398-8 "A cross-national study on gender differences in suicide intent" | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/09/22 01:25 PM |
| 12 | Toxic Masculinity vs Positive MasculinityIf you read Iron John, which is where toxic masculinity was first popularised, the author talks about it inside the context of a feminised society that is no longer healthy for men. You can think of it like putting a cat into a house full a dogs where the cat has to eat dog food, doesn't have litter to use, and doesn't have cat toys. This cat might become very upset. It might hiss a lot. It might become aggressive. It might poop everywhere. And it might even try to bark and eat dog food. Which i… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/09/22 01:12 PM |
| 24 | Does nonsuicidal self-injury (NSSI) count as a suicide attempt for statistics?This has been known about for a little while now. There's some information here: https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/cvpyve/comment/ey5xeda And an interesting study about suicide intent here: https://bmcpsychiatry.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12888-017-1398-8 There are also other reasons to question the importance or validity of this idea that women attempt more. To begin with, if you attempt and fail, you can obviously attempt again. Which will inflate this statistic. And then y… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/09/22 02:54 AM |
| 2 | When bringing up men's issues, how would you respond to a feminist who claims "patriarchy hurts men too"?Institutional feminism is a part of the patriarchy and commands a great deal of power and influence in the modern world. When feminist groups opposes progress and defend traditional gender norms, like what you see with their treatment of family law and reproductive rights for men, they make things worse. I certainly didn't blame everything above on feminism, but it's about time we had a reckoning in the feminist movement about the role of large feminist institutions and lobbying groups. Especial… | /r/MensRights | 25/09/22 02:36 AM |
| 1 | Why do people refuse to believe the facts?Do you have any information about this? I've heard of atheism+, which just sounds stupid, and is antithetical to the values you used to find in a lot of atheist communities (freethinking, objectivism, etc). But I haven't heard anything about YouTube or a shift to the right. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/09/22 02:31 AM |
| 2 | Denver allocates $2M in taxpayer funds to provide homeless women, trans and non-binary people $12 000 eachYep this is exactly it. More homeless men, as a percentage, sleep unsheltered than homeless women. And more homeless men, again as a percentage, die due to exposure than homeless women. So not only are there more homeless men than homeless women, but they suffer quite a bit more as well. | /r/MensRights | 24/09/22 01:25 PM |
| 30 | Why do people refuse to believe the facts?On a personal note, one of the main reasons I care about this topic is exactly that: factual correctness. It is an important human rights issue for sure. But facts are facts, and they don't stop being true just because you don't believe them. Discussing this reminds me of discussing climate change, the theory of evolution, or any other pro-science topic. Radfems ("intersectional" feminists) remind me of Christian fundamentalists and far-right conspiracy theorists in their fervent denialism of ba… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/09/22 01:10 PM |
| 8 | Is paper/financial abortion socially responsible?Child support laws need a big overhaul in general, even if you agree with this type of logic. They're based on outdated gender norms where men worked and women stayed home. They're also from a time period where a father working minimum wage could support a family on one income. Paying child support therefore did not create functional poverty the way it usually does today. The father at some point is still a human being and has a right to financial independence and self-determination. So at the v… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/09/22 12:53 PM |
| 7 | Is paper/financial abortion socially responsible?That's certainly the theory. But in practice that's not how it works, and everyone knows that. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/09/22 12:47 PM |
| 7 | When bringing up men's issues, how would you respond to a feminist who claims "patriarchy hurts men too"?Do you think the patriarchy is responsible for the systemic and institutional denialism around female perpetrated sexual assault and domestic violence? Do you think it's responsible for the epidemic of false allegations, where 1 in 7 men are victims? Is it responsible for unfair child support laws and the systemic exploitation of male labour and financial resources, for which women are primary beneficiaries? Is it responsible for the sexist family law system that separates fathers from their chi… | /r/MensRights | 24/09/22 03:44 AM |
| 1 | Differential Reactions to Male and Female Gender-Role Violations: Testing the Sexual Orientation HypothesisHomosexualities is in a way breaking a social norm. They're just different social norms is all. | /r/Male_Studies | 24/09/22 03:22 AM |
| 11 | Denver allocates $2M in taxpayer funds to provide homeless women, trans and non-binary people $12 000 eachA new book published by 24 of the world's leading domestic violence experts criticizes the idea that domestic violence is a "gendered crime", and goes into detail about how this paradigm has negatively impacted policy decisions and society https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/w651d7/a_new_book_published_by_24_of_the_worlds_leading/ | /r/MensRights | 24/09/22 03:17 AM |
| 11 | Denver allocates $2M in taxpayer funds to provide homeless women, trans and non-binary people $12 000 eachIt's a little over 90% in the UK. Homeless men have things worse than homeless women too. | /r/MensRights | 24/09/22 03:16 AM |
| 3 | A bit of my story and why I don't like some commonly given advice.From an adjacent movement, "Black Lives Matter" is an example of the same tactic. Even if I agree with the implication in this case, it's still skipping the discussion of whether black lives are currently being treated as though they don't matter. This is / was precisely the problem. You get a white guy killed by the police and then they put screaming mothers on TV and talk about how he was an A+ student in primary school but got involved in drugs. Then you get a black guy killed by the police a… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/09/22 02:06 AM |
| 3 | The "Shame" Narrative Regarding Male VictimsHave you read Iron John? Toxic masculinity originally referred to the feminisation of society, and how men react to it. The result is that some men don't know how to be men because society is too feminised to teach them how to be real men (creating "feminised men"). And then other men exaggerate their masculine traits, such as aggression or competitiveness, because there's no outlet in society for them to truly be men. I think there's this idea that toxic masculinity is caused by gender norms, b… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/09/22 12:35 AM |
| 13 | Reading 'The Myth of Male Power': ch.2The Ottoman empire was ran by a class of slaves who, on paper, actually had most of the power in society. Despite basically running the county, they ultimately worked for the benefit of the sultan. This happened through a complex political and social system that hid this dynamic from everyone, including from the janissaries (the slave class), and even the sultans (at least the ones who were born several generations into this system). The janissaries had a lower life expectancy, and more pressure… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/09/22 12:09 AM |
| 1 | Are men treated better than women? A trans man's point of view.Idk, if you're accusing me of misgendering him that's not what I meant to do. They / them is sometimes used as a gender neutral singular pronoun. | /r/MensRights | 04/09/22 11:31 PM |
| 7 | The shameful Natasha Aponte experiment, "The Tinder Trap", shows just how desperate men are and how much choice women have.That makes way too much sense. It's kind of like how the for-profit prison industry puts out more criminals, instead of reformed citizens, because their incentive is to create more crime. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/22 01:55 AM |
| 7 | The shameful Natasha Aponte experiment, "The Tinder Trap", shows just how desperate men are and how much choice women have.What are these specific types of people? I mean I know there are prostitutes and psudo-prostitutes from the female side of things, just as probably one "type" of woman on there (a lot of women use it for free dinners or to otherwise milk men out of their money). But I'm curious what all you meant by that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/22 01:00 AM |
| 24 | The shameful Natasha Aponte experiment, "The Tinder Trap", shows just how desperate men are and how much choice women have.I haven't posted here in years but I really want to say right now how quickly we've done a 180 on this. Online dating used to be great. It even seemed to cater to men and male sexuality quite a bit. That's where Netflix and chill came from. Online dating used to be recommended by people here. Red, blue, and purple alike. And now we all hate it. To be clear I agree with you. I just think it's an interesting development in society that it started out so great but is now probably making things wors… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/22 11:46 PM |
| 2 | The attack of the 50 foot Period PovertyWhy do you say that? Most married men earn twice what their wives earn, yet everything is split down the middle. Divorce costs men a lot of money on top of that. I'm sure you're aware that a very large majority of child support and alimony is paid by men, not women. This seems to be pretty central to a lot of things in the gender equality discussion. Including the wage gap that largely manifests from the pressures we put on men to earn more money than women. It's called the providership gender n… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 31/08/22 11:10 PM |
| 3 | The attack of the 50 foot Period PovertyI think £8 is on the high end. £8 will get you around two months worth of name brand pads. So it's probably closer to half that. And that's still on the high end. Your US numbers imply a monthly cost somewhere between $1.65 and $2.20. Based on 15 to 20 pads a month. With even that being on the higher side from what I can tell (both looking online and guesstimating what I've seen and heard from other women). I do think it can be a bigger problem for people than what the numbers imply on paper, be… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 31/08/22 10:31 PM |
| 6 | The attack of the 50 foot Period PovertyOn paper they're pretty cheap but I could see it being an issue if you're between paychecks and start your period when you're completely out of money. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 31/08/22 02:32 AM |
| 9 | The attack of the 50 foot Period PovertyI've bought pads before but for some reason I never realised how cheap they are. £8 gets me a little over 30. These are the name brand ones that are like scented and stuff. And I think that can last for more than one cycle -- probably pretty close to two months. So even with name brand pads you're probably spending less than what OP came up with. My girlfriend complains about the cost. But that's mostly because having a period sucks, and spending money on top of that sucks even more. I've always… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 31/08/22 02:16 AM |
| 12 | Feminists hate lonely men the same way conservatives hate poor peopleThe article itself plays into existing forms of bigotry against men. Kind of like a dog whistle. The response to the article is more what I was talking about though. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/08/22 11:31 PM |
| 15 | "Most politicians are men"Are feminists saying most women are stupid people voting against their own interest? Yes, actually. They call it internalized misogyny. If you deconstruct what they're saying, they basically think most women are dumb and can't think for themselves. We often forget that feminists are just as misogynistic as they are misandrist. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/08/22 10:55 PM |
| 8 | "Most politicians are men"However it's also a field which is paid poorly in most western countries, which means it's not a sector which attracts very many men who have been taught to strive for higher payment and "man jobs", so it becomes perpetuating societal factor. Let's get to the root of this: who is telling men they need money, and what reason is being given? At the end of the day, women are the ones who wield power and influence in the dating and family world. And they largely select men who have a greater earning… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/08/22 10:54 PM |
| 17 | Feminists hate lonely men the same way conservatives hate poor peopleWell there was that one article blaming male loneliness on not being open and following feminist ideology. Which had droves of feminists on Twitter agreeing with it, and other feminist authors around the Internet citing and repeating those talking points... This article made some commentary on the fallout from that if you're wanting a source: https://quillette.com/2022/08/25/terrible-tinder/ | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/08/22 09:05 PM |
| 28 | The misandrist idea that single men are lonely because they should be ‘emotionally available’ and ‘open up more’ totally debunked.The original article doesn't seem to be based on "research" though, does it? It's an opinion piece by a psychologist who spent some time on TikTok, not a published research study. What's telling is when you compare that article to this one. This one is full of peer-reviewed research to back up the author's claims. Compared to the first one which was backed up by the author's TikTok feed and their seemingly poor critical thinking skills... | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/08/22 08:55 PM |
| 12 | Do I have to pay alimony?That should be illegal. We're in desperate need of family law reform. Look up the national coalition for men. They're based out of California AFAIK. | /r/Divorce_Men | 27/08/22 02:14 AM |
| 44 | A good womanHe was probably nervous because he knows how quick society is to judge men like him who are simply trying to live their lives and avoid drama... Going out of your way to prove that you're not automatically some kind of predator for identifying as a man can be exhausting. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/08/22 06:14 PM |
| 3 | Found this infographic on Twitter claiming women work more than men.They also need to tell participants to include time before and after their shift that is spent preparing for and cleaning up after work. Including your commute and unpaid overtime. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/08/22 06:10 PM |
| 11 | Found this infographic on Twitter claiming women work more than men.Another guess I have is they're not looking at couples. Single men may in fact do less than single women do. OECD data, which could even be the source for your graphs, shows this. In the context of single / childless people though, the most useful work to society is actually just paid labor. Unpaid labor is stuff you do for yourself, or your family. So if single women buy larger houses (hypothetically) that require more maintenance and cleaning, they would have higher rates of "unpaid labor". Bu… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/08/22 06:05 PM |
| 7 | What are some (MRM related) facts that sound false but is actually true and deserves way more attention?Pages 32 and 40 apparently. Somebody already told you that 9 hours ago in a different comment. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/08/22 07:34 AM |
| 5 | What are some (MRM related) facts that sound false but is actually true and deserves way more attention?Yeah I could definitely see that excluded from the numbers. Even just humping or grinding tbh, which can certainly be traumatizing to a victim. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/08/22 07:32 AM |
| 3 | What are some (MRM related) facts that sound false but is actually true and deserves way more attention?I would probably agree with you. Although personal preferences also play a part. How many women leave a squeaky door alone, or faded paint somewhere, vs men who may prefer simpler less time consuming meals, or not care as much about dusting that extra room that nobody goes into? The bigger qualifier I've seen is that many cooking and cleaning related tasks take less time, but are more frequent, which is kind of the opposite of what you're saying. It might take most of a day to clear off and trea… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/08/22 07:13 AM |
| 5 | What are some (MRM related) facts that sound false but is actually true and deserves way more attention?I imagine there could be factors we're missing. Including social biases. Hetero women may interpret sexual misconduct from other women different from how men interpret it from other men. The CDC data does include made to penetrate for women though. With statistically negligible results for that category. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/08/22 06:36 AM |
| 4 | What are some (MRM related) facts that sound false but is actually true and deserves way more attention?One thing to consider about the OECD data is it includes all men and all women, so that means single men and women who may have different lifestyles and preferences, which isn't a direct comparison (though still potentially interesting). Something as simple as child custody differences could influence those numbers. Or more men just naturally being organized and living in smaller apartments with less maintenance. Of course if the methodology is suspect, that could influence the numbers as well. … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/08/22 06:30 AM |
| 31 | What are some (MRM related) facts that sound false but is actually true and deserves way more attention?The data is reputable. Not only is it from the CDC but we've had people like Time Magazine report on it. http://time.com/3393442/cdc-rape-numbers/ It's also published in peer-reviewed academic journals (look up Lara Stemple and Ilan H. Meyer). The 57% figure comes from a single year of CDC data though. In other years it is lower than that, but on average it hovers around 50% (between 40% and 60%). So parent might have exaggerated the numbers a bit if you want to get technical here. But the overa… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/08/22 04:37 PM |
| 21 | What are some (MRM related) facts that sound false but is actually true and deserves way more attention?A study from 1991 found a 5 hour per week difference. https://www.jstor.org/stable/2727521 Another study from the 1970s found a difference of close to 3 hours (I'm not sure the exact number, Farrell talks about it in The Myth of Male Power if you wanted to dig it up). At the very least I don't think you can argue that women do more. Men seem to do more across the board, regardless of source. The question is just how much more. What's interesting to me is in the PEW study they looked for couples … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/08/22 03:50 PM |
| 118 | What are some (MRM related) facts that sound false but is actually true and deserves way more attention?Unpaid labour. Or at least the idea that men are lazy and women either do more than men, or are somehow used by men like slaves for cooking and cleaning. The reality is that most male coded tasks are taken for granted and not considered by most people. Including most men, most couples, and some researchers on occasion. There is both systemic and institutional gaslighting involved that can make men doubt this, which I think leads to a lot of frustration, and tension in relationships. There is a d… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/08/22 03:37 PM |
| 6 | Why is inter-partner violence treated as gender violence when the partners are heterosexual (or, in the case of many feminists, when the man specifically is the violent one)? Isn't it just a dispute between two close people who happen to be of opposite genders due to their sexual preferences?FWIW the scientific term is intimate partner violence or IPV. Academic experts don't use the term gender violence. In fact quite a few have spoken out heavily against that term. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/08/22 01:17 AM |
| 13 | How gendered is intimate partner homicide?Really my point is just that what you said sounded a lot of like Bell Hook's model of patriarchal violence, which isn't well supported by the academic literature. But I wasn't even trying to say you're wrong necessarily, just that maybe that's where you heard it from (indirectly of course, unless you've read her books before). The most commonly quoted study about bidirectional violence can be found here though: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1854883/ That's where my numbers came fr… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/08/22 09:35 PM |
| 11 | How gendered is intimate partner homicide?That's certainly true but I'm unaware of any research that has looked at this specifically in the context of spousal homicides. And the idea you alluded to, assuming that is what you meant, was generalized to domestic violence by Bell Hooks and other radfems in the first place anyway. So that's where you probably heard it from. It's a very common theory in society despite its lack of formal academic support. My best answer probably comes down to bidirectional abuse. Well over half of all ipv hom… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/08/22 09:03 PM |
| 18 | How gendered is intimate partner homicide?This is called the patriarchal model of violence. It was popularised by Bell Hooks and remains popular among radical feminists who are influenced by her work. The theory is that domestic violence is about control, and the patriarchy tells people that they deserve to be in control when other people are weaker than them. So men are in control of women, and women are in control of children. And then they both use violence when their control is threatened by people who they view to be beneath them. … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/08/22 08:36 PM |
| 14 | How gendered is intimate partner homicide?Most sources report that around 1 in 3 victims are men. However you still have to consider that women get away with it more. And at least one major method that women use (murder by proxy) isn't reported in homicide statistics, even if they are caught and prosecuted. I understand your logic that men might not report being victims as much as women, and that homicide numbers would be a better indicator because you at least have a body. But there are still social and institutional biases that are re… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/08/22 06:50 PM |
| 7 | Reading 'The Myth of Male Power': intro + ch.1This has long been something by men's advocates that has long annoyed me, comparisons between men and black issues. I understand why they do it, but it's poor philosophically. To reiterate the why, I think it's to point out that we can go there if we want to. Almost like calling a bluff when feminists try to go that low. I don't know if this gets said explicitly quite as often, but I don't think very many men's advocates agree with the analogy. At least not in the way that feminists seem to. I d… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/08/22 03:37 PM |
| 12 | Reading 'The Myth of Male Power': intro + ch.1I've never read Farrell before but I've made many of the same observations that he seems to be making in the book. There's a saying I've heard that states the truth can't be hidden. People will always rediscover and find the truth, no matter how much it is suppressed or forgotten about. And I think this is something that should give us all a lot of hope. If we don't fix things today, I think we will eventually fix things in the future. The truth will always come back out, no matter how much we f… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/08/22 02:09 PM |
| 14 | How misandry replaced atheism in the left wing politics (the birth of 4th ave of feminism)The Democratic Party as a social phenomenon with strong demographic and ideological implications – can be said to have started in 2004. I'd probably argue that before that the hot topic was economic inequality. Look up the war on poverty, for example. So what do you think the next shift will be? It took 12 years for "atheism" (which probably included liberal / non-literal Christianity) to be replaced with social justice. And the war on poverty probably lasted about that long as well. So if the c… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/08/22 07:58 PM |
| 4 | Child CustodyThey fabricated the data used in the study. The entire affair is documented here: http://www.breakingthescience.org/SJC_GBC_analysis_intro.php The real data, which they tried to bury, showed a bias against fathers. Papers still get published that have citation trails going back to that study. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/08/22 07:09 PM |
| 2 | Child CustodyThese sources are quoted out here: https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comments/iwew9s/cmv_equal_child_custody_for_mothers_and_fathers/ | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/08/22 07:07 PM |
| 32 | Child CustodyThis is probably based on a really old study which was actually published fraudulently: http://www.breakingthescience.org/SJC_GBC_analysis_intro.php If you want to learn about all the different talking points and see some sources, check out this post I made a while back: https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comments/iwew9s/cmv_equal_child_custody_for_mothers_and_fathers/ More than a dozen peer-reviewed sources have found quite a strong bias against men seeking custody. And this is afte… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/08/22 08:13 AM |
| 33 | 'I just don't want children': Some American men are turning to vasectomies after the Supreme Court's decision to overturn RoeThat's already a thing. In many places it's automatic (or procedural) and doesn't even go through the court system. On welfare forms you're supposed to mark a second contact for your children, in the event that something happens to you. If you put down someone not immediately related to you like a parent or spouse, the state will go after that person for child support. Typically these people end up being godparents, roommates, or close friends who are actively involved with the children. This ha… | /r/MensRights | 16/08/22 08:05 PM |
| 3 | Men's rights wiki website adviseThere's also the reference book of men's issues (which I'd actually like to see copied over to that website). https://www.reddit.com/r/rbomi/wiki/main If anyone wants to edit the rbomi, just pm me and I can add you to it. | /r/MensRights | 16/08/22 07:59 PM |
| 0 | I've gone about 5 links deep in the article's citations and still can't fine a gendered breakdown of the victims.The US tends to classify prostitutes as human trafficking victims. Which sometimes leads to some pretty crazy numbers for click-bait. That said, 200 victims, including 84 women and children, sounds pretty on point for a country that size. Why do you doubt the numbers? Or rather, how do you see this in relation to men's rights? | /r/MensRights | 16/08/22 07:56 PM |
| 2 | I don't see this ever talked about, but I believe there is a power imbalance when it comes to social influence between the genders. Please share your thought on both the reason and possible solutionThese comments aren't helping. If women gossip more then that's because it's more effective and actually works for them, due to social norms, not because they're addicted to it. Let men have that kind of power and they would abuse it too. Men are not morally superior to women. Men just don't have this type of leverage in society so they don't stoop to that level as much. | /r/MensRights | 14/08/22 10:38 PM |
| 17 | The Feminist Case For Men’s RightsAnother issue I see a lot is they only talk about the patriarchy harming men in the context of things like "men not being able to wear the color pink". They ignore all of the actual issues that men care about. Because honestly when you start to add everything up, men seem to have a lot more against them than women do. So the only way to hold onto their victim ideology is to ignore all the very real and relevant ways men are disadvantaged in society. They also don't tend to push for real solution… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/08/22 10:10 PM |
| 14 | Loneliness and the EconomyYou might even say that being responsible for the finances and earning most of the money is a form of emotional labour. Not to mention physical labour in many cases. And then you have to be emotionally open for your partner to dump their problems on you when you get home, instead of receiving support yourself. This is the type of world that a lot of men live in. The male experience isn't properly recognised or respected, even by a lot of men (especially younger men who have less experienced with… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/08/22 12:15 AM |
| 63 | Men's biggest issue is the lack of awareness of the fact that we even have serious issues at allPeople recognise the existence and validity of individual men's issues in isolation. Family court reform has a lot of casual supporters, for example. Including women and even feminists (the ones who call themselves feminists but don't know anything about the ideology). Something else you see discussed are double standards. People even talk about this generalized in terms of men. Double standards against men / husbands / fathers is absolutely something that people recognise as real in society. Th… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/08/22 06:12 PM |
| 2 | Calling feminists "the left" empowers them.You mean r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates? | /r/MensRights | 12/08/22 04:55 PM |
| 2 | Calling feminists "the left" empowers them.It's conservative in the sense that it enforces traditionalism and chivalry. Instead of "women are weak so they need men to help them" it's turned into "women are victims so they need male allies". You can see this basically everywhere in the modern day movement. Unpaid labour gets used to justify staying home more (instead of telling women to earn more money so that men could spend more time at home doing chores). The child care norm gets used to defend traditional and sexist child custody and … | /r/MensRights | 12/08/22 04:54 PM |
| 3 | Why do most homosexual and heterosexual men have a toxic relationship?They also have the highest relationship satisfaction IIRC. | /r/MensRights | 12/08/22 04:42 PM |
| 5 | LWMA LoungeAnyone on the left should understand the argument that violence and crime are symptoms of a larger problem. What it means is that the needs of men are not being adequately met by society. My guess is that the provider role pushed on men leads to higher levels of stress, which can lead to crime. There are also men who resort to crime in order to aquire resources to give to women and children. So long as women are not expected to support themselves, their children, or their boyfriends / baby daddi… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/08/22 04:34 PM |
| 3 | LWMA Book Club poll for first bookOne thing that might be interesting to talk about are some of the things he got wrong in the book. IIRC there are a couple facts or statistics that have been questioned, and he's admitted that he got them wrong. It was nothing too substantial, but it shows how big of a microscope people like him get put under. A similar, or even larger mistakes, by someone like Bell Hooks would go unnoticed. Or even defended by her followers as factual, for no other reason than she said it was true. Another thin… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/08/22 03:49 PM |
| 26 | The Unintended Consequences of #MeToo: Evidence from Research CollaborationsThat's just a red herring. It looks like they want to downplay the thoughts and feelings of men, as if their opinions shouldn't matter. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/08/22 11:08 AM |
| 5 | So, how much damage did women's groups cause to anti-rape activism regarding female-perpetrated abuse?Sam Cooke was murdered because of a false allegations. An Asian women screamed that this black man was trying to rape her so of course someone shot him. She was a con artist who would convince men they were going to get lucky with her. Then she'd get them naked and take off with their clothes and wallet. Obviously most men aren't going to chase after a woman completely naked, and if they did, all she had to do was scream that she was being rapped. The murder of Sam Cook intersects with racial pr… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/08/22 06:15 PM |
| 10 | Theories of Patriarchy. What feminists often get wrong.Nowadays anyone who doesn't follow the mainstream radical feminist party line is questioned and not considered a "real feminists". Just look at Christina Hoff Sommers, a liberal "democrat" btw, who is said to be a reactionary anti-feminist conservative. She's from an older generation of feminists and has written extensively about the rise of radical feminism. Instead of acknowledging that they're the radicals, and that she's the one who's true to the core ideals of feminism (aka gender equality)… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/08/22 05:35 PM |
| 26 | An interesting deleted comment from menslib and a reflection as to why language matters.What's ironic is this logic fits into the traditional feminist framework. It was a point commonly made by 2nd wave feminists when the discussion was about "gender norms" and not "the patriarchy". Nagging and what they called maternal gatekeeping (over childcare) was another issue. Feminists would even say things like, "women will never be equal in the workplace so long as men are not treated like equals at home". There was an awareness that women had a certain amount of power over men in domesti… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/08/22 05:14 PM |
| 1 | The biggest example of feminism being an advocacy group for wealthy white women is their defense of alimony and divorce laws"Among married-couple families, both spouses were employed in 46.8 percent of families" The other 3.2% is clustered in high income families. Which is basically what the point is. People who defend alimony are defending that 3.2% of people who are extremely wealthy and live privileged lives, while they ignore everyone else. Including poor women and women of colour. In general, the more money a family earns, the more likely it is that the wife will either work part time or not at all. That's becau… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/08/22 04:28 PM |
| 2 | The biggest example of feminism being an advocacy group for wealthy white women is their defense of alimony and divorce lawsI'm not banned from there. It was pretty dumb to remove the post though. They actually waited a few days before doing it, so it wasn't even on the front page anymore when they did finally remove it. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/08/22 04:19 PM |
| 2 | The biggest example of feminism being an advocacy group for wealthy white women is their defense of alimony and divorce lawsThere are a lot of older, wealthy white women in Florida. That's almost a stereotype. Wealthy white women are typically conservative. The National Organization for Women, which is a very well known feminist group, did intervene and have closed door meetings with the governor though. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/08/22 04:17 PM |
| 1 | The biggest example of feminism being an advocacy group for wealthy white women is their defense of alimony and divorce lawsSorry for the late response. What's interesting about this is these talking points are pretty common from anti-MRA types, so at the very least the logic should work in that type of context. Typically they'll say it's a small number of people so why do you care? Well, if you're defending it, this same logic basically means that you only care about it because you only care about wealthy white women. (I have seen some studies posted about this in the past which looked legitimate though). According … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/08/22 04:11 PM |
| 4 | The biggest example of feminism being an advocacy group for wealthy white women is their defense of alimony and divorce lawsWhich ones, specifically? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/08/22 10:44 PM |
| 15 | The biggest example of feminism being an advocacy group for wealthy white women is their defense of alimony and divorce lawsA lot of groups oppose these bills because they think it emboldens domestic abusers, which they assume can only be male (while ignoring that a biased system in favour of women would embolden female abusers even more than a neutral system would). Those groups always use domestic violence as a better excuse than just "we think women are owed money from men in exchange for getting married". But Florida had a bigger issue with alimony specifically. I can actually point you to this thread on r/Florid… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/08/22 02:43 PM |
| 6 | The Great Patriarchy and its rule of thumbFWIW, most of the things Paul Elam is accused of is either exaggerated, or plain not true. He gained a lot of attention by gender swapping misandrist publications on the feminist website Jezebel. Where, among other things, they had articles about abusing and murdering men. And actually encouraged their readers to do those things to fight against the patriarchy. AVfM republished those articles except they were gender swapped. The point was to highlight our hypocrisy towards female-on-male violenc… | /r/MensRights | 07/08/22 02:13 PM |
| 41 | The biggest example of feminism being an advocacy group for wealthy white women is their defense of alimony and divorce lawsThis is what came up in Florida when the governor vetoed a comprehensive family law reform bill that had wide public, and bi-partisan support. Florida is a state where many wealthy people go to retire. Despite being a small minority, their numbers and collective financial influence disproportionally affects politics there. And they don't want to see things changing when they've planned their whole lives around existing laws that give women gross legal and financial advantages over their husbands… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/08/22 01:43 PM |
| 33 | insults and compliments directed towards menI think that's one of the problems we have with gaining acceptance for the men's rights movement. Strong men are assumed to prevail, even against the odds. So any man who complains that society isn't fair must be weak, and is therefore complaining because they're weak, not because the issues they bring up are valid. It's so ironic that radfems had a campaign to get men to speak up more, only to start calling those men incels when they did speak up. Like they're literally part of the problem, and… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/08/22 07:27 PM |
| 2 | The Great Patriarchy and its rule of thumbAVFM is a for profit website that often features men's rights related publications. They're not a civil rights group and are actually kind of controversial, including among MRAs (as almost like the radfem equivalent of a radicalist MRA). I don't know what HBR is but if you're looking for politically involved civil rights groups, there's the National Coalition for Men (NCFM), the Canadian Association for Equality (CAFE), and the National Parent's Organisation (NPO). | /r/MensRights | 05/08/22 05:38 PM |
| 51 | The Great Patriarchy and its rule of thumbChristina Hoff Sommers, a non-radical feminist, called this out when some of her more radical colleagues started spreading that myth. This was I think in the 1980s or 1990s. She wrote about it in one of her books, along with how mainstream feminism started to be radicalised during that time period. Another myth you see a lot is that you can (or could) legally beat your wife on the courthouse steps on Sunday. That's simply never been a law anywhere in the world. But that myth has been spread by t… | /r/MensRights | 05/08/22 05:33 PM |
| 6 | How can we help boys in the education system?Yeah I don't mind. There's even more than that. I think most of it is US centric so I pulled out the ones that show this extending more globally. What's interesting is how some of this research set out to find a bias against women, especially in math and science, but actually discovered the exact opposite. I think the Israel study mentions and discusses that. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/08/22 05:14 PM |
| 12 | How can we help boys in the education system?I don't think it's super important if female teachers specifically are worse at doing this, but it's still probably relevant that most teachers are in fact women. There is other research showing a stronger gender bias from women than from men (known as an in-group bias). http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15491274 Men on average seem to have very little bias at all, except maybe slightly in favour of women instead of other men. Whereas there's a pretty strong bias among a lot of women in favour … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/08/22 05:12 PM |
| 22 | How can we help boys in the education system?I don't remember ever being "graded" for behaviour in class. That was more of a disciplinary thing. If you break the rules you get in trouble for it. But that doesn't affect your grade, at least not directly. What a lot of research shows, including probably the one you posted about Norway, is that teachers have a bias against boys. Including and especially on test scores. You can recruit anonymous teachers and give them tests to grade where the only difference is the gender of the person's name … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/08/22 04:00 PM |
| 1 | Roughly 80% of false rape accusations don't get reported to the authorities.I saw a false accusation happen in public when I was at university. This couple on campus was famous for having been together since primary school. Until the girl showed up to a party with a new guy. She was flirting with him and making out in front of everyone. So of course we're thinking she must have broke up with her boyfriend. After all, this is when people discover themselves and try new things. Well the very next day she was telling everyone that she didn't cheat and that in fact she was … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/08/22 03:14 PM |
| 1 | Roughly 80% of false rape accusations don't get reported to the authorities.I think these studies usually look at that type of stuff. There are a lot of points that "feminists" (or just people who care about sexual assault victims) make which are 100% legitimate. But usually those points apply to individuals, and not to population trends. That's an important distinction that gets lost in these discussions. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/08/22 02:07 PM |
| 1 | Roughly 80% of false rape accusations don't get reported to the authorities.One point I like to make is that many false accusations do not go to the police. It's all about publicly smearing their victim, and typically a victim has very little recourse against that type of thing (just look at what Johnny Depp, a wealthy and famous actor, had to go through to exonerate himself... and many people still don't believe him). Like at least if it goes to the police, you have an opportunity to formally defend yourself, which at least gives you something in the way of ammunition … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/08/22 01:47 PM |
| 3 | Gender, Socially Desirable Responding and the Fear of CrimeThis is definitely relevant in domestic violence research. | /r/Male_Studies | 03/08/22 07:37 PM |
| 8 | 24 top experts speak out: Domestic violence is not a gendered crime, nor is it caused by a patriarchyI had no idea about any of that. She's not the only person who's talked about this before though. Generally, women have been shown to report greater levels of crime-related fear than men; there may also be gender differences in how fear is expressed (Schafer et al. 2006)...Adding the criteria of expressed fear and/or physical injury to classify the occurrence of partner abuse may have the unexpected detrimental effect of reducing our ability to identify, prevent, and intervene in all types of ab… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/08/22 06:06 PM |
| 13 | 24 top experts speak out: Domestic violence is not a gendered crime, nor is it caused by a patriarchyThey're credentialed and fairly influential in the field. The co-editor is in charge of the Springer journal Partner Abuse, for one example. Top 24 just means they're fairly prominent in the field. I'm not implying that there's a literal ranking or anything like that out there. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/08/22 05:03 PM |
| 31 | 24 top experts speak out: Domestic violence is not a gendered crime, nor is it caused by a patriarchyas is being widely documented nowadays men are not stoic by nature but by training. They feel very intensely but try not to show it. So how are they actually interpreting psychological distress? If it's the usual "self-reported" then women will always show higher levels due to men not talking about it. Yeah I think this is a good point. And a few people have talked about this in the academic literature. Nicola Graham-Kevan mentioned this in an interview on the Centre for Male Psychology. She act… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/08/22 01:54 PM |
| 40 | 24 top experts speak out: Domestic violence is not a gendered crime, nor is it caused by a patriarchyDue to the high rates of bidirectional abuse found in domestic violence cases, many experts now advocate for family counseling and anger management therapy to treat and combat the problem. Most domestic violence cases leave few injuries, if any at all. And severe cases that do result in injuries usually start out small, and escalate over time. With both parties being guilty of this escalation. Early intervention and counseling might therefore prove to be more successful than older approaches bas… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/08/22 12:50 PM |
| 2 | 4 years after Kentucky passed two landmark child custody reform bills, family court caseloads and domestic violence rates have both decreasedYeah depending on your audience, this isn't exactly a selling point (unfortunately). | /r/MensRights | 03/08/22 12:38 PM |
| 5 | 4 years after Kentucky passed two landmark child custody reform bills, family court caseloads and domestic violence rates have both decreasedA lot of people really appreciate what you're doing. I think MRAs, especially online, get in this trap where they only talk about how crappy society is, and how the evil feminists are a bunch of hypocrites. A lot of that is of course based, in large part, on facts and legitimate problems. But the reality is nobody likes a complainer. You end up fighting against the grain of society, instead of being smart and fighting with the grain of society. So what we should be talking about are our successe… | /r/MensRights | 03/08/22 02:41 AM |
| 5 | Sexism in WomenThis is more akin to fighting climate change denialists. If you go back and look, basically all the research shows something known as an in-group bias among women. Including for things like hiring decisions, and even hypothetical life and death situations (most people would sacrifice a man instead of a woman -- and this tendency is stronger in women than in men). A lot of people deny this though, despite how well established and developed it is (there's a strong intersection with something known… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/08/22 09:59 PM |
| 2 | Don’t be too cynical. DO something.There is a lot of progress and good things happening. We just have to make sure to frame it that way. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/08/22 09:55 PM |
| 39 | What's your opinion of "The Man" by Taylor Swift?Very few musicians come from modest means. This is true to a lesser or greater extent basically everywhere in the arts -- including painters and authors. Even in history as well (Van Gogh had wealthy relatives to mooch from). A lot of people can sing. A lot of people can dance. A lot of people are attractive and have good voices. A lot of people want to be famous, rich, and on stage, regardless of the cost. And most of those people are every bit as talented as any other musician out there. It's … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/08/22 09:49 PM |
| 8 | 4 years after Kentucky passed two landmark child custody reform bills, family court caseloads and domestic violence rates have both decreasedIt's the dogma of the modern world. You're basically a heretic if you don't peddle 4th wave radical ("intersectional") feminism. Or you can call yourself a sceptic / freethinker if you want to put a positive spin on it. | /r/MensRights | 02/08/22 01:10 AM |
| 22 | 4 years after Kentucky passed two landmark child custody reform bills, family court caseloads and domestic violence rates have both decreasedThis is part of an interview with Don Hubin from the National Parents Organization, which is a civil rights group fighting for child custody reform. One of the main opponents of this reform are women's domestic violence groups (often under the feminist umbrella) who argue that this legislation would somehow increase domestic violence rates or otherwise allow abusive fathers to gain custody over their children. However, the data and research indicates quite the opposite. It's likely that many dom… | /r/MensRights | 02/08/22 12:14 AM |
| 82 | Ironic how this strong,independent woman needs a man to fix her sinkIronic how this strong,independent woman needs a man to fix her sink Not just a man, but a boy. She sees herself, and other women, as less competent and intelligent than a boy. And yet she thinks that characterizing women this way will "end the patriarchy"? How about this for ending the patriarchy: fix your own damn sink and leave everyone else alone. | /r/MensRights | 01/08/22 05:07 PM |
| 5 | LWMA LoungeWhat sources are there that state Lesbian on Lesbian violence is the highest rate of ipv? These are the sources I have for lgbt domestic violence rates: https://ncadv.org/blog/posts/domestic-violence-and-the-lgbtq-community https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2018.01506/full "Studies Show Lesbians Much More Likely to Beat, Sexually Abuse Their Wives Than Heterosexual Men." https://web.archive.org/web/20170921130726/https://squawker.org/culture-wars/studies-show-lesbians-much-more-… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/08/22 04:56 PM |
| 13 | There is more to incels than just "entitlement"My experience with women is that sex comes easy but commitment doesn't. So this might just be projection from them. There are definitely girls out there who hate men because they can't keep a guy around for more than one or two lays. And there are things you can say about that: if guys "use" you only for sex, then you probably aren't bringing much more to the table besides sex. Maybe that's the equivalent of black pill ideology for women? And honestly, how many of these Twitter type "intersectio… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/08/22 04:01 PM |
| 35 | There is more to incels than just "entitlement"Sex and human relationships (including romantic relationships) are a basic human need. Sex itself is put on the same level as food and water on Maslow's hierarchy of needs, two levels down from love and relationships (which are still really important in people's lives). What that means is that people will spend their time and energy trying to get food / water / shelter / sex before they do anything else productive with their lives (in general at least, humans are a little "higher thinking" than … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/08/22 03:49 PM |
| 2 | any ideas to help this subreddit to grow faster?The movement definitely started in the US and has obvious roots with the history of slavery and segregation in the country. There's also a larger socialist or anti-capitalist aligned leftist movement which kind of despises idpol outside the US. It has definitely "infected" the rest of the world though. Hence why I think it's an example of US cultural hegemony. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/08/22 03:37 PM |
| 7 | what do you think of MRAs saying the problem is unmasculine men?You might just not notice it as much because men start out lower on the totem pole. Handsome privilege is a thing but fewer men are considered handsome than the equivalent "pretty" for women. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 31/07/22 11:41 AM |
| 12 | I feel like homophobia is often co-opted by women when they claim that it’s just misogyny.There is also a hypermasculine aspect of gay culture. My understanding is that hypermasculine gay culture, primarily in and around the leather scene, is a result (or reaction against) people assuming that gay people were feminine. Some of the worst offenders of this btw can actually be women, and the woke movement. For some reason, these gay obsessed women don't seem too interested in rougher, hypermasculine presenting gay people. They seem to like watching effeminate gay men because it's either… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 31/07/22 11:30 AM |
| 9 | any ideas to help this subreddit to grow faster?There is an assumption that being left wing automatically includes subscribing to identity politics This is a very American thing and speaks to the pervasiveness of American cultural hegemony on the internet. The left isn't just a thing in America. We're not all idpol obsessed. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/07/22 11:51 PM |
| 17 | any ideas to help this subreddit to grow faster?MensLib is reactionary against men's rights. If being reactionary is bad then so is menslib. Granted, if being against human rights and equality is bad, then so is menslib. Honestly everything about what the left is supposed to be should be in favour of men's rights. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/07/22 11:47 PM |
| 28 | Received a response from the Advertising Standards Authority re. EE's 'Stop Sexist Hate' Ad CampaignThere's a truism in business that for every person who takes the time to complain or bring something up, another hundred people also thought the same thing but didn't say anything. This is because it takes time and work to find the right people to give your feedback. I don't know if there's any science to that exact ratio but the point is even one person saying something matters, because the real number of people is much higher. 207 actually seems like quite a bit given the culture we live in. I… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/07/22 06:56 PM |
| 8 | What will it take for people to genuinely care about male suicide, boys' education, fathers' access to their children etc.?I think a lot of it is men don't realize these things until it's too late. You'd be surprised if you asked a bunch of men about divorce and child custody: many think the courts are fair and that it's only Hollywood elitists who lose all their money in a divorce. I see a lot of anti-mra people trying to call MRAs incels and imply they need to get out more in the real world. But the reality is that most men are complaisant because of ignorance. And it's men who do have life experiences who will go… | /r/MensRights | 28/07/22 02:06 PM |
| 9 | What will it take for people to genuinely care about male suicide, boys' education, fathers' access to their children etc.?These are still caused by gendered issues. Many men are simply ignorant because of systemic and institutionalised gaslighting in society. | /r/MensRights | 28/07/22 01:59 PM |
| 18 | I'm scared that monkeypox will cause a lot of homophobia towards gay/bi menThe aids epidemic also put a lot of negative attention on gay people. Just when you think we're past this stuff, hateful people always end up feeling emboldened enough to start making noise again. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/07/22 01:07 PM |
| 2 | Do we need to address the nature-nurture issue again?The issues found with "biological determinism" also largely predate the modern science on the topic. I think you could say the same for conversion therapy as well, although that was more recent. You had psychologists as recent as the 1990s defending the idea that homosexuality was, at the very least, a mental disorder. Even that was before we had a lot of solid evidence of a biological cause though. Which, ironically, can be thought of as adjacent to biological determinism. That's what debates a… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/07/22 07:44 AM |
| 3 | Would there be interest in a book club?This might be a good way to support people who advocate for men (and / or objective reality, in place of systemic and often institutional gender biases against men). | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/07/22 06:29 AM |
| 2 | Reason for the creation of the men's rights movement.Good to know. I've only seen it in the context of the Russian revolution but it's pretty obvious what the parallels are in the modem movement. Even though we should have learned from those lessons. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/07/22 06:27 AM |
| 3 | Reason for the creation of the men's rights movement.I consider myself a feminist but only in the "feminism means gender equality" sense. Modern feminism is based on patriarchy theory. Which is the radical feminist idea that men use power and authority in society to oppress women. Most feminists today have no idea that this is the literal dictionary definition of radical feminism. To them, that's just what feminism is. Because radical feminism has basically taken over the entire movement. As u/frackingfaxer mentioned, there are some feminists who … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/07/22 07:45 PM |
| 2 | Reason for the creation of the men's rights movement.The use of the word reactionary goes back to Lenin during the socialist revolution in Russia. At the time (and still today) there were two opposing views of thought about socialism. One group wanted non-violent reform primarily through existing political infrastructure or incremental reform. The other group wanted to use violence and force to take control and establish a communist state through a kind of dictatorship. Lenin was in the later group who called themselves Bolsheviks. Bolshevik liter… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/07/22 05:19 PM |
| 2 | A new book published by 24 of the world's leading domestic violence experts criticizes the idea that domestic violence is a "gendered crime", and goes into detail about how this paradigm has negatively impacted policy decisions and societyA big issue is education and awareness at this point. The academic consensus seems pretty straightforward. It's not a stretch to say that this is the position of the top experts in the industry, and to deny it is to engage in science denialism. I'm sure there are some detractors in the industry. Radical feminists being the main ones obviously. But it's getting harder and harder to ignore this if you care about facts and data. The contrary position is becoming more and more of a reactionary posit… | /r/MensRights | 24/07/22 11:03 PM |
| 3 | A new book published by 24 of the world's leading domestic violence experts criticizes the idea that domestic violence is a "gendered crime", and goes into detail about how this paradigm has negatively impacted policy decisions and societyHere are some of the statistics about injuries and severity. 16% of men and 14% of women report being seriously injured by their partner. Straus, M. A., Hamby, S. L., Boney-McCoy, S., & Sugarman, D. B. (1996). The revised conflict tactics scales (CTS2) development and preliminary psychometric data. Journal of family issues, 17(3), 283-316. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/019251396017003001 Assaulted men are more likely than assaulted women to experience serious attacks by being hit … | /r/MensRights | 24/07/22 10:56 PM |
| 1 | A new book published by 24 of the world's leading domestic violence experts criticizes the idea that domestic violence is a "gendered crime", and goes into detail about how this paradigm has negatively impacted policy decisions and societyYeah this is strictly in academia, unfortunately. | /r/MensRights | 24/07/22 10:50 PM |
| 3 | A new book published by 24 of the world's leading domestic violence experts criticizes the idea that domestic violence is a "gendered crime", and goes into detail about how this paradigm has negatively impacted policy decisions and societyI'm referring to your average person on the street who doesn't know anything better than "feminism means gender equality". Most of the ones in power and in academia seem to be part of the problem though. Technically speaking, any good feminist who is not a radical should (ironically) be against most of the feminist institutional establishment, including it's influence in academia. Should. I imagine widespread ignorance is a big reason we don't see this happening. | /r/MensRights | 24/07/22 10:48 PM |
| 13 | A new book published by 24 of the world's leading domestic violence experts criticizes the idea that domestic violence is a "gendered crime", and goes into detail about how this paradigm has negatively impacted policy decisions and societyMore women are hospitalised in domestic violence because men are larger and stronger. There's quite a bit of research that disagrees with that. Women are more likely to pick up weapons and things like kitchen knives. And men often don't defend themselves. So there's a plethora of data showing higher rates of male victims who show up in hospitals and doctor's offices for injuries that they sustained from a partner. That's why the question of "severity" can get complicated. More women are killed, … | /r/MensRights | 24/07/22 12:22 AM |
| 6 | A new book published by 24 of the world's leading domestic violence experts criticizes the idea that domestic violence is a "gendered crime", and goes into detail about how this paradigm has negatively impacted policy decisions and societyIt's on sale right now in a few places. And it's honestly kind of cheap for what it is. Unfortunately stuff like this usually carries a bit of a pricetag. Research isn't exactly cheap, even if ethically it should probably be free and accessible for everyone. | /r/MensRights | 23/07/22 09:18 PM |
| 4 | A new book published by 24 of the world's leading domestic violence experts criticizes the idea that domestic violence is a "gendered crime", and goes into detail about how this paradigm has negatively impacted policy decisions and societySo are they covering up the history of feminist hate deliberately misrepresenting the data for decades? In favour of this shitty "Gee how did that happen nobody knows, nothing to see here" approach? I think they're talking about the acceptance of these ideas by mainstream society. A man with a black eye is just a man with a black eye. It's normal. But society hates to see a woman bruised up, so that's why we focused so much on women at first. Saying that it's understandable doesn't mean you endo… | /r/MensRights | 23/07/22 09:00 PM |
| 15 | A new book published by 24 of the world's leading domestic violence experts criticizes the idea that domestic violence is a "gendered crime", and goes into detail about how this paradigm has negatively impacted policy decisions and societyI think some of this is starting to backfire on them. These are well known people in the industry who are cited extensively today, including in this book. You can't do research or study this field without learning about these people. Straus in particular is foundational in the industry, and Pizzey gets recognition for starting the world's first domestic violence shelter. I think we're starting to get past the chilling effect that feminists had in the industry, at least inside of academia. So of … | /r/MensRights | 23/07/22 08:32 PM |
| 21 | A new book published by 24 of the world's leading domestic violence experts criticizes the idea that domestic violence is a "gendered crime", and goes into detail about how this paradigm has negatively impacted policy decisions and societyThey're also pretty clear about the feminist movement, and feminist theory in particular, being a big part of that problem. This is discussed pretty directly and bluntly in the book. Feminists may mean well (and let's be honest, most who are in the real world probably do), but this is a huge blind spot that does in fact create problems for men. I don't want to come out and attack feminism or anything like that, but why is this detail so hard for people to admit to? Can't we just admit that femin… | /r/MensRights | 23/07/22 04:31 PM |
| 63 | A new book published by 24 of the world's leading domestic violence experts criticizes the idea that domestic violence is a "gendered crime", and goes into detail about how this paradigm has negatively impacted policy decisions and societyHere's an excerpt I typed out from the introduction which talks about the history of domestic violence advocacy and research. [F]indings were met with skepticism or dismissed by victim advocates, who had dedicated their efforts exclusively to helping battered women. In retrospect, this resistance was understandable at the time, given that research on IPV was still in its infancy and news accounts focused on severely abused women. It was also known then, as it is known now, that men perpetrate th… | /r/MensRights | 23/07/22 02:20 PM |
| 2 | What book on male psychology would you recommend reading while on vacation?I'm actually looking at this book right now: Gender and Domestic Violence: Contemporary Legal Practice and Intervention Reforms. https://www.amazon.com/Gender-Domestic-Violence-Contemporary-Intervention-ebook/dp/B0B57B7F25/ It's about our current understanding of domestic violence as a relatively non-gendered phenomenon. Brenda Russell is a psychology professor who has done a lot of research about gender biases in the court system, and how prosection rates for things like sexual and domestic vio… | /r/MalePsychology | 22/07/22 11:26 PM |
| 10 | Women’s prisons: The truth behind Canada’s utopia – ArtefactI've never watched Peterson in my life. I am aware that he uses this term "neo-marxism", but this has also been part of the left for literally decades. He didn't invent the term. And he's not the only person who dislikes liberals. Many on the left who are socialists also dislike liberals and neo-marxists. And yes, that quote comes from his book about gender relations in pre-agricultural society. That division of labour he's talking about came about because of agricultural society, which created … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/07/22 09:53 PM |
| 7 | Women’s prisons: The truth behind Canada’s utopia – ArtefactNeither Marx nor Engels wrote about a patriarchy, or white supremacy for that matter (they were European after all, and these are American problems / ideas). In fact Engels seemed to think that both racism and sexism would be solved by class equality (he had some weird theories about pre-agricultural society also, some of which might actually be valid, but that's beside the point). Feminists who try to appeal to Marxism are out of their league and don't know what they're talking about. What you'… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/07/22 05:27 PM |
| 6 | My workplace mostly has female toilets?You could still bring it up with management. I doubt you'd get into any trouble, and it wouldn't harm the company either, since it's all internal. You never know when they're going to do a remodel or open up a new location. And if someone in management cares, and can talk about other employees caring, they might have just the right influence to get it fixed in the future (whereas if they think they're alone, they might keep their mouth shut). That kind of thing might also come up in conferences … | /r/MensRights | 22/07/22 05:14 PM |
| -2 | My workplace mostly has female toilets?You know part of it is just respect. I actually think it's fine to have more female toilets, just because women do take longer to use the restroom. There are some building codes and engineering considerations though. It can be technically difficult / impossible to do in some cases. I forget why, but I've seen discussions where feminists argue that this is oppression (that their bathrooms aren't already bigger) and caused by the patriarchy. And then civil engineers explain that it has to do with … | /r/MensRights | 22/07/22 05:08 PM |
| 25 | Woman Admits to Raping a man as Proof of His PaternityI think the "if" is just pointing out the double standard. Caring about women's issues but being hypocritical about equivalent men's issues is a traditional gender norm that we need to get rid of. The two are obviously the same thing, so let's go ahead and treat men and women like equals. | /r/MensRights | 22/07/22 03:47 PM |
| 5 | PSA: men and women who work outside, please be careful with the summer heat waves.I don't have a problem recognizing that some issues affect women more than men, or vice versa. What I would like to see is just honesty and fairness. Don't tell us homelessness is a bigger problem for women when the facts clearly show otherwise. And don't list a bunch of "gender equality issues" that only affect women, on purpose, to present the discussion in a way that implies we only need to help women. Especially when helping women, and ignoring (or blaming) men, is already a traditional gend… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/07/22 03:39 PM |
| 15 | Women’s prisons: The truth behind Canada’s utopia – ArtefactObviously nobody here thinks women are engaged in a conspiracy to oppress men. But I don't know why we have to call it a patriarchy, either. It is a social issue caused by the actions of everyone in society, consciously or not. Men may run these prisons (more often than not) but they see their duty as keeping everyone, especially women and children, safe. Ponting your fingers at these men won't fix anything because it does not address the root of the problem. Demonizing men as misogynists / rapi… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/07/22 01:58 PM |
| 1 | A conversation with my therapistThat was met with wide criticism both inside and outside of the states by professional and academic psychologists everywhere. At least two published textbooks used in university classrooms formally criticized the APA's stance on masculinity. The APA has since retracted their statements, but most people don't think that was enough. So we'll just have to wait and see what they do in the future. | /r/MensRights | 21/07/22 08:29 PM |
| 3 | A conversation with my therapistThe response he got might be taken out of context, since that's a common strategy used in therapy. But here's a source: https://www.pjp.psychreg.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/7-john-barry-50-64.pdf Taken from here: https://www.reddit.com/r/malementalhealth/comments/o6htpz/a_new_study_found_that_malefriendly_therapists/ I have heard these stories though. One guy on LWMA was a veteran with I think PTSD who was given a feminist therapist. She almost drove him to commit suicide. Like he had never b… | /r/MensRights | 21/07/22 08:24 PM |
| 3 | A conversation with my therapisthttps://www.pjp.psychreg.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/7-john-barry-50-64.pdf The actual figure is 28% for male therapists and 37% for female therapists. One interesting finding is that feminist therapists appear to be aware, statistically speaking anyway, that feminism is not a helpful model for their male clients. Like they'll say that they are personally a feminist but then also say that feminism is harmful to their client's mental health. Which would be like a chef not wanting to eat his ow… | /r/MensRights | 21/07/22 08:21 PM |
| 28 | Help me understand rhetoric surrounding men emotionally "opening up"The need to be the "therapist" is a constant, daily thing. But I don't begrudge my spouse that so called "emotional labour". She's my spouse and I love her, and I feel like my capacity (however much or little) to give her what she needs in those respects is what allows her to feel loved and to be in a relationship. This might really be the point here. Men give and give because we love women and children. And we largely don't complain unless we're used. Or we quickly comment that "we wouldn't hav… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/07/22 02:08 AM |
| 8 | Mainstream media admits pay gap discrimination is just made upIt probably depends on too many factors to accurately measure, unless you use the market itself as a proxy. | /r/MensRights | 21/07/22 01:59 AM |
| 8 | Mainstream media admits pay gap discrimination is just made upI wonder how often this bot finds itself in wage gap discussions. | /r/MensRights | 21/07/22 12:15 AM |
| 4 | A conversation with my therapistThere was a study not too long ago that only found about 18% (IIRC) of therapists were feminists, and even fewer thought that feminism was relevant or helpful for their male patients. Psychology is one of the more grounded disciplines in the social sciences. It's not perfect but I think we're moving in the right direction. Check out r/MalePsychology for some resources and discussion. | /r/MensRights | 21/07/22 12:11 AM |
| 30 | Mainstream media admits pay gap discrimination is just made upOne study found that female workers were about 8% less productive than their male counterparts. They still found a ~4% wage gap after accounting for that difference in productivity, but they weren't as thorough as some of the other studies in accounting for all the different variables here. If you combined that 8% with something like the Korn Ferry study that found an average job for job differences of ~1%, I think you'd end up finding that men are under paid to the tune of about 7%. https://bfi… | /r/MensRights | 20/07/22 11:59 PM |
| 21 | Men's Struggles with Valuing OurselvesThis is what internalised misandry is. I'm sure there's some stuff like this going the other way for women. It's not strictly a men's issue. But I think we recognize that it can be a problem when it affects women. And we're actively trying to solve that problem. But then we ignore it for men. Which only makes the problem worse. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/07/22 11:47 PM |
| 67 | Help me understand rhetoric surrounding men emotionally "opening up"It's been my experience that men support their SOs emotionally or "as a therapist" more than the other way around. I see this a lot with my friends and my own relationships. Being the stable "rock" in a relationship is the original emotional labor. Putting up with nagging and "mood swings" is also emotional labor. Forgiving and always being there for someone (with the tools and knowledge to fix things) is emotional labor. And that's always been the traditional male gender norm, not the female on… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/07/22 11:37 PM |
| 1 | False accusations are a form of domestic violence and can represent a continuation of abuse against a victimYeah it gets used for effect. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/07/22 01:04 PM |
| 4 | We need to spread our message widerI've seen some progress recently. @the_dadvocate is pretty popular on TikTok, for example. I wrote a little bit about her here if you're interested: https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comments/vuhyaa/the_dadvocate_has_almost_a_million_followers_on/ And then there are intactivists who seem to have a decent amount of exposure. It's more niche but the communities are established and healthy. Male mental health hashtags usually have some progressive takes on social media platforms as wel… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/07/22 07:46 PM |
| 23 | False accusations are a form of domestic violence and can represent a continuation of abuse against a victimOne way to look at administrative violence is to contextualise it as a form of abuse that utilizes the state, and other institutions, to commit domestic violence from a position of power and privilege. Even if there are no legal charges, you could still look at it in the context of systematic social bullying that utilises power and authority to further abuse a victim, often as a continuation of past abuse. If you ignore this aspect of the problem, then you are ignoring an important element of do… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/07/22 06:43 PM |
| 2 | Men are abused by women at an equal rate of women by menI'm piggybacking on your comment just for awareness. There are (limited) resources available for men and I think it's important that people know about these options. Australia https://www.sbg.org.au/ Canada Canadian Center for Men and Families, Tel +1 647-479-9611, 9am - 5pm Monday - Saturday UK ManKind Initiative, Tel 01823 334244, weekdays 10am to 4pm Families Need Fathers (FNF), Tel 0300 0300 363, weekdays 9am - 10pm Monday - Friday and from 10am - 3pm on weekends US NCFM California Men's Cen… | /r/MensRights | 19/07/22 06:06 PM |
| 5 | Good Movies about being a man? ⛔️Zootopia has this kind of message in it also. It's supposed to be about racism but almost all of the messages in the movie could equally apply to men as well. | /r/MensRights | 19/07/22 06:02 PM |
| 6 | Some common gender myths and their rebuttalsThe OP, and the top comment, might be a bit rude, but I think that's all you can really say about it. Most of the comments, including the rude looking ones, are talking about the double standard we've seen over the last few decades with regards to men's rights and male reproductive rights in particular. Nobody there seems to be against abortion rights though (I probably shouldn't say nobody because I didn't read every comment, but I definitely didn't see any comments to that effect). | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/07/22 12:57 AM |
| 3 | Some common gender myths and their rebuttalsThe Queen Victoria thing would require an understanding of the historical context. It could have been related to her own power and control over government, for example, which at the time was being challenged by the chartists movement. But I don't think it would have been as straight forward as a woman ought to help a women. She was royalty first and foremost, and would have saw herself as fundamentally different from peasants trying to vote for their silly representatives. Any kind of in-group b… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/07/22 12:42 AM |
| 9 | Equality feels like oppression?The quote comes from an MRA on usenet during the 1990s. It's actually men who first said this about women, not the other way around. Another popular quote was "equality is a bitch". There's some history there but the TLDR is that women started complaining about things that men have always had to deal with (like working a double shift), and men largely responded with "that's not oppression, that's equality". Kind of to point out that men don't always have things great the way women assume. | /r/MensRights | 14/07/22 03:19 PM |
| 7 | Some common gender myths and their rebuttalsThis wasn't always true everywhere but it is part of the history of suffrage in the UK at least. At one point, Queen Victoria actually banned women from voting, including female landowners. I don't have a good source to give you unfortunately but there is information like that out there. Another fun fact, at least for the US, is that many women (land owners or otherwise) could vote before 1920. It varied state by state, and sometimes they could only vote for local state candidates. But it's not … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/07/22 03:06 PM |
| 1 | Some common gender myths and their rebuttalsThe hospital thing is just a coding issue. There is no code for attempted suicide, so they get put under self-harm. But that doesn't stop some people from trying to use those numbers as if it somehow proved that women were attempting suicide more than men. You can see here what I'm talking about: https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/cvpyve/comment/ey5xeda I agree with what you're saying, but short of throwing your hands up and saying "we can't ever know anything", I'm not sure what your … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/07/22 12:25 AM |
| 6 | Some common gender myths and their rebuttalsNow you're sounding like a red piller to be honest. That's literally something they would say. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/07/22 11:29 PM |
| 14 | Horseshoe theory between conservatives and (old-school) feminists on the trans issueI think a lot of it comes from parents who are worried about their children. If your child is gay then you might not get grandbabies, but at least they'll be happy, right? If your child is trans though, they're going to be taking hormones, and possibly getting surgery. Then there's the question of whether or not they will regret it later, especially when you see them going through short-lived phases already. All of this has been hashed out by trans activists, but no matter how you feel about it,… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/07/22 11:16 PM |
| 55 | Horseshoe theory between conservatives and (old-school) feminists on the trans issueFeminism in general, especially 3rd / 4th wave "intersectional" feminism, is incredibly conservative once you deconstruct it. The entire idea that women are victims who need to be rescued is basically just chivalry, but reworded using leftist language. They inadvertently reinforce traditional gender norms and work to keep things the way they are, instead of advocating for progress and change. Not too long ago, feminist lobbying groups convinced the conservative governor of Florida to veto a bill… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/07/22 10:40 PM |
| 2 | Man dubbed creep for using eliptical next to womanAre you here in good faith or do you just want to argue? My numbers come from the CDC, and several population representative studies, which all find similar numbers. Sources like yours typically don't count "made to penetrate" as a form of rape, so that's how they get such vastly different numbers. Made to penetrate is when a woman forces a man's penis inside of her. This is not counted as rape under the law in many places, and is also not counted as rape in quite a few government sources and in… | /r/MensRights | 13/07/22 10:00 PM |
| 2 | Man dubbed creep for using eliptical next to womanI take it you didn't look at the link I gave you earlier. Just as many men have been harassed by women as the reverse. It's close enough anyway. About 39% vs 30% IIRC. Including 1 in 6 men who have been raped by a woman. This ignorance or blindness to male victimisation is a huge gender issue, and also impacts women in a negative way: by viewing women as weak damsels, and men as active agents, you are reinforcing traditional gender norms. | /r/MensRights | 13/07/22 09:36 PM |
| 9 | Child Support and Custody issuesGet a lawyer. You can find legal assistance here: http://211online.unitedwayatlanta.org/ I would also highly recommend signing up for legal insurance. I'm not sure how that works when you already have an active issue, but I think most of those companies will work with you. Typical rates are $15 to $20 a month for a $100 deductable. They pay EVERYTHING. Lawyer fees, court fees, even damages (depending on the plan). Many employers cover that as a fringe benefit so you might already have access to … | /r/MensRights | 13/07/22 09:30 PM |
| 1 | Man dubbed creep for using eliptical next to womanI think it's the way she did it, but that's only from reading the other comments here and not the article. In principle I think you're right though. It's just the context can matter as well. | /r/MensRights | 13/07/22 09:24 PM |
| 1 | Man dubbed creep for using eliptical next to womanAnd what reason would that be? Do you think men are rapists? Do you think back people are criminals? | /r/MensRights | 13/07/22 09:23 PM |
| -1 | Man dubbed creep for using eliptical next to womanDo you cross the road to keep white people happy? The truth is neither of us were there, so this entire conversion is kind of moot. | /r/MensRights | 13/07/22 09:21 PM |
| 12 | Some common gender myths and their rebuttalsThe top posts on r/MensRights for three or four days were all defending abortion rights and saying things like "we stand with women". People do have different opinions but the sub seemed strongly in favour of abortion rights when that happened. The next closest thing you saw were posts basically saying to "suck it up" because "men have never had reproductive rights", but only in an ironic kind of way to make a point. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/07/22 09:17 PM |
| 9 | Some common gender myths and their rebuttalsI think that's a valid point. I would reject the idea that the world is ran primarily by men though. Men and women just do different things in different areas of society. So in some areas we might not accommodate women very well, including possibly in business (especially in history). But in other areas we don't accommodate men very well. For example: child care, education, etc. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/07/22 09:12 PM |
| 0 | Man dubbed creep for using eliptical next to womanHer moving away from someone like that is kind of assholish, but he outdid himself in the way he responded to the situation (instead of taking the highroad). An interesting thought exercise is how this would have played out between a black member and a white member. Does it become racist, for example. Or does race / gender have nothing to do with it. Meaning at worst both people are assholes, as individuals, and nothing more. | /r/MensRights | 13/07/22 07:56 PM |
| 41 | Some common gender myths and their rebuttalsAnother recent myth is the idea that men are the ones who are denying women the right to an abortion. u/duhhhh made a good post about that here: https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/phffry/men_are_not_taking_away_womens_abortion_rights/ There's also an article by Woke Father about that. https://www.wokefather.com/sexism/the-myth-that-abortion-laws-are-men-legislating-womens-bodies/ The tldr is that women are against abortion rights in equal or sometimes greater numbers than men are (depe… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/07/22 07:51 PM |
| 7 | The 30 articles of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and their application to men's human rightsOne problem I noticed is people tend to view men as "rights violaters" and "rights upholders" (known as duty-bearers) more than they do as rights-holders on their own. Basically, people already assume that men have all their rights, and that nobody is violating them. At the same time, they assume that women are behind men, and see men as both the primary violaters of women's rights, and the primarily upholders of those rights ("good men" are expected to protect women from all the "bad men"). Whi… | /r/MensRights | 13/07/22 07:27 PM |
| 6 | The 30 articles of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and their application to men's human rightsThanks, I guess. You know a bot like this would work better as a DM than a comment. | /r/MensRights | 13/07/22 07:19 PM |
| 3 | Man dubbed creep for using eliptical next to womanThis post is what we call clickbait, and that user is what we call a troll. There's nothing "incel" about any of that. You'll find it in any of the main / large subs on Reddit (although the mods are vocally a little more "hands off" here, for better or worse). If you look around, basically everyone in the comments is pointing this out and agreeing with you. So you might want to do a double take if you're being honest and not trolling yourself. Check out this post if you want to see what some of … | /r/MensRights | 13/07/22 07:00 PM |
| 4 | The Role of Personality Disorders in False Accusations and DV/ IPVFemale Domestic Violence Offenders (pdf) More recently, Simmons et al. (2005) compared court-referred male and female offenders and found women were more likely than men to demonstrate MCMI-III profiles indicative of personality disorders. More specifically, they found that 71% of the females as compared to 26% of the males showed clinically significant elevations on at least one of the subscales measuring personality psychopathology. As compared to men, these women scored higher on the Histrion… | /r/MensRights | 13/07/22 02:38 PM |
| 4 | The Consent Model of Pregnancy would resist legal challenges better than Roe v. Wade. It would also give men equal rights to paternal surrender. It remains controversial among pro-choice proponents specifically because it would give men equal rights, a double standard that is now backfiring on womenLike what u/Maldevinine said, the legal problems with Roe v Wade have been known about for a long time. It's not even that abortion can't be protected by the constitution. But the specific arguments used in Roe v. Wade (a right to privacy) is constitutionally invalid and was likely only successful because, at the time, the supreme court was partisan in the other direction. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/07/22 02:39 PM |
| 9 | The Consent Model of Pregnancy would resist legal challenges better than Roe v. Wade. It would also give men equal rights to paternal surrender. It remains controversial among pro-choice proponents specifically because it would give men equal rights, a double standard that is now backfiring on womenI don't know enough about US law to point you any further. But I can tell you that what you're talking about is known as the right to self-determination. This is actually the foundation of many human rights principles, including international human rights treaties, and is usually protected (on paper) in liberal democracies. Self-determination is pretty self-explanatory. Basically you have a right to live your life the way you want to, outside of undue external influences like government or socie… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/07/22 12:02 AM |
| 2 | Today is Gender Empathy Gap Day!Idk that's a good question. We could find lists of these holidays online, contact the people hosting those lists, and then see if they'll add it... From there it would just take time and a bit of organic growth for it to become more popular. It would probably end up on more lists over time by merit of already being on other lists, for example. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/07/22 11:09 PM |
| 4 | The Consent Model of Pregnancy would resist legal challenges better than Roe v. Wade. It would also give men equal rights to paternal surrender. It remains controversial among pro-choice proponents specifically because it would give men equal rights, a double standard that is now backfiring on womenif you forced the human into your house without their consent How does this work with a fetus? You didn't put it there. You can equally say that it never chose to be there, but that's irrelevant to the other point. if leaving your house early would kill them Legally that is not your responsibility, hence why this framework works. You could argue that doctors would have to save the fetus, but ultimately it's nobody's fault that it died when medical efforts fail to save it. I don't subscribe to th… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/07/22 10:57 PM |
| 6 | The Consent Model of Pregnancy would resist legal challenges better than Roe v. Wade. It would also give men equal rights to paternal surrender. It remains controversial among pro-choice proponents specifically because it would give men equal rights, a double standard that is now backfiring on womenIn my view, not bringing a child into the world when you can't properly raise one is a "responsible" action to the "consequence" of being pregnant. Btw the theoretical basis of this model is an assumption that the fetus is a human being with legal rights. So you can think of it more in terms of letting someone stay in your house with you. It you meet someone and invite them over, them being in your house with you is a "consequence" of your action that you are "responsible" for. You can however r… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/07/22 09:55 PM |
| 8 | The Consent Model of Pregnancy would resist legal challenges better than Roe v. Wade. It would also give men equal rights to paternal surrender. It remains controversial among pro-choice proponents specifically because it would give men equal rights, a double standard that is now backfiring on womenIf I drink and drive, and hit someone, there is no defense for "yes, I chose to drink and drive, but not to get into an accident, so I shouldn't be responsible for damages". Now, if I hurt myself, and nobody else, no worry. But if my choice resulted in a consequence that put a living human being totally dependent on me, absent their own consent, then I am responsible for that dependence. If I fail to meet that responsibility, then I am negligent at best. Conversely, if, for example, I drove impa… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/07/22 08:17 PM |
| 15 | The Consent Model of Pregnancy would resist legal challenges better than Roe v. Wade. It would also give men equal rights to paternal surrender. It remains controversial among pro-choice proponents specifically because it would give men equal rights, a double standard that is now backfiring on womenI'm pretty sure that's what marriage was supposed to be originally. That's where things like marital rape come from, also. By getting married you were consenting to have sex for the purposes of procreation. Therefore it wasn't seen (legally) as rape because you technically already consented. (Women used to sue men in court if they didn't consummate the relationship... Many were probably gay men who we've forgotten about in history because as a society we see this as a "woman's issue"). Of course… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/07/22 06:59 PM |
| 13 | Today is Gender Empathy Gap Day!I just added MANdat to our community wiki. I assume they belong there. https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/wiki/support I really like the idea of this "holiday". We need to make sure all the lists and databases that contain these days have this one. That way it gets pulled into those Twitter bots and other random notifications about these holidays that people see. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/07/22 05:13 PM |
| 5 | hey I'm wondering what gender dies of filicide moreAs a society we are more appalled by it when a man does it, so we go out of our way to tell those stories and condemn them. It's part of a pattern of sexism against men that erases male victimisation and female perpetration. In a way it's also sexist against women because it treats them as passive damsels in distress who need men to come rescue them. | /r/MensRights | 11/07/22 04:34 PM |
| 34 | The Consent Model of Pregnancy would resist legal challenges better than Roe v. Wade. It would also give men equal rights to paternal surrender. It remains controversial among pro-choice proponents specifically because it would give men equal rights, a double standard that is now backfiring on womenI can't say anything about that book, but this argument, especially when applied selectively to women, is actually a pretty common pro-choice argument. People just don't know anything about the history of it, or its intersection with men's rights. Modern feminism (ie radical feminism) has moved away from this argument towards a biological determinism argument in recent years, likely to preclude the idea that a man's right to say no to parenthood should be protected along with a woman's right to … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/07/22 04:02 PM |
| 4 | @the_dadvocate has almost a million followers on TikTok and is promoting a healthy discussion about men and relationshipsYou could make content without putting yourself in the videos, couldn't you? Kind of like what you do on Instagram. You could get in contact with established TikTokers like the_dadvocate to help promote / cross-stitch your channel. I imagine she could get behind that after seeing your content. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/07/22 07:09 PM |
| 9 | @the_dadvocate has almost a million followers on TikTok and is promoting a healthy discussion about men and relationshipsThis is another issue: people can't seem to agree on what the word actually means. They just use it in whatever way is convenient to them. Which is usually however you can turn it into the man being a quasi-oppressor, and the woman being the victim. The way I've heard it used in the past is that women do most of the planning and worrying, while guys have a "cool" (emotionally healthy) attitude and don't let minor things bother them. But here you're using it in a completely different way. Like me… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/07/22 01:05 PM |
| 8 | Is Homelessness Sexist? | The Homeless HubAccording to traditional feminist theory, this is misogynistic because it views women as weak and passive. Being a victim is a passive state of being: it is something that is done to you. It therefore reinforces traditional gender norms about women. The female empowerment movement was supposed to be about countering that. But somewhere along the line, modern society and "liberals" forgot about all of that. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/07/22 11:51 PM |
| 18 | @the_dadvocate has almost a million followers on TikTok and is promoting a healthy discussion about men and relationshipsI wish we had someone like thetinmen on TikTok. What do you think is polarising about her content though? She does generate "controversy" but usually it's just people who are shocked that she's not 100% team women like what you see everywhere else. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/07/22 08:03 PM |
| 47 | @the_dadvocate has almost a million followers on TikTok and is promoting a healthy discussion about men and relationshipsGiven our recent discussion about TikTok I figured I would highlight something positive on the platform. @the_dadvocate isn't a traditional MRA and I'm not sure that she'd call herself one, but this is the type of content that we need more of on social media platforms like TikTok. Most of her content is about relationships and "understanding men" but she has also covered a bunch of traditional men's issues and seems to be pretty smart and open minded. I like her takes on some of the differences … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/07/22 06:59 PM |
| 5 | how to get men to support men more?Tall handsome men definitely have a measure of privilege in society. Likewise, less attractive women have less privilege. There was a comedian who said "ugly women get treated like men", and there's probably a bit of truth to that. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/07/22 03:29 PM |
| 4 | how to get men to support men more?Look up the halo effect and neoteny. Basically we've evolved to protect our young, and women keep characteristics associated with youth well into adulthood, likely to elicit a similar response. We also tend to just like people who are "pretty", and again women tend to be prettier than men. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/07/22 12:16 PM |
| 3 | A human rights based approach to men's rights [Video 5:30]Completely agree. Unfortunately, feminists insist we have to stick to traditional gender roles in order to get out of traditional gender roles. Yep this is one of the biggest contradictions that I see with feminists and "progressives". The entire idea that men are fine and it's really women who need special help falls into the same gender norms that they claim to be against. They're right when they call those gender norms harmful, including "also harmful against men and not just women". They jus… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/07/22 02:43 AM |
| 2 | Journey Updates from (Extremely Former) RadFem MomAFAIK it's been open longer than that. They moved and have rebranded it but they've had a shelter in Toronto for a while now. There's a news article from I think 2013 about feminists protesting their building. The background of their shelter is pretty heartbreaking. Justin Trottier was moved by the suicide of a guy named Earl Silverman who ran a domestic violence center out of his home for several decades. He opened it because he was a victim and had nowhere to turn himself. He dedicated his lif… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/07/22 01:59 AM |
| 2 | Bit of a rant but I work harder to earn a lot more. Why does she get to benefit from that without contributing anything at home?!The governor has a bill on his desk to fix this. Large feminist organizations who claim to care about gender equality are trying to lobby the governor to veto it though. | /r/Divorce_Men | 05/07/22 09:40 PM |
| 12 | how to get men to support men more?That just brings you to the idea that men are valued for what they can do (meaning for women and children) whereas women and children are valued by default. That's only slightly different from what parent is saying. I mean it's still important and relevant. But we're still talking about evolution and biology being responsible, on some level, for many of these problems. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/07/22 07:55 PM |
| 6 | A human rights based approach to men's rights [Video 5:30]The distinction between men as rights-holders and men as duty-bearers (or even rights violaters) is really important. More and more people see humans rights drawn down gender lines: women are rights holders, who's rights we dare not violate. And men are seen as rights bearers, who need to protect women's rights, usually from other men who are portrayed as rights violators. We fail to recognise that women are also rights bearers (and rights violaters) and therefore have equal responsibility to up… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/07/22 06:14 PM |
| 10 | Misandry in the Law and Public Policy - Canadian Association for Equality"Men's Rights" (mensrights.com) is ran by a law firm that specializes in family law. They run that website to help drive potential clients to their law firm. The website itself is not that bad and contains a lot of really useful information. But I probably wouldn't put it on the same level as CAFE or the NCFM. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/07/22 05:53 PM |
| 2 | Anyone else just laugh at the advice given in other subs?The funny thing is it used to be that women could take out loans in their husband's name without their husband's signature. This was the case all the way up until the early 1900s under "coverture". That changed when a get rich quick scheme became popular that involved marrying a man, taking out loans, then divorcing him. The wife kept the money while the husband had to pay it back to the bank. So it became illegal for married women to take out loans without their husband's signature. People like… | /r/Divorce_Men | 24/06/22 04:14 PM |
| 2 | Anyone else just laugh at the advice given in other subs?The bad thing is that it's usually progressives who are like this. More and more people on the left are starting to see through this though (eg r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates). Modern day patriarchy / radical feminism is extremely conservative and traditionalist towards men. I really don't think it's a left wing ideology anymore, and any leftist who supports it is a hypocrite. | /r/Divorce_Men | 24/06/22 04:10 PM |
| 1 | False AccusationsMaybe try putting a /s after your comment then? Radfems have already done a good job spreading propaganda to call MRAs misogynists. And comments like that don't really help very much. Just saying. | /r/MensRights | 24/06/22 02:30 PM |
| 1 | False AccusationsCome on now it's a small number of people who do this. Also most "witches" burned in history were men anyway. So if we bring that back we'll end up murdering more men than women. It was only the puritans who came over to the US who thought women had something to do with the devil, and even then they still targeted a lot of men. The realty is that any practice like this will inevitably be used against men because people simply care more about women than they do men. | /r/MensRights | 24/06/22 02:21 PM |
| 3 | Scientific studies about men's reality - In search of resources [NEED HELP PLEASE READ!]r/Male_Studies has a lot of good stuff. Also the reference book of men's issues: https://www.reddit.com/r/rbomi/wiki/main. I probably have some things I could share if you need specific sources, but it looks like you already have a lot to go through as it is. Just putting that out there if you think of anything though. Good luck btw. | /r/MensRights | 24/06/22 01:19 AM |
| 1 | Ghislaine Maxwell trial: Prosecutors say she should be sentenced to 30-55 years for sex crimesGhislaine appears to be a lesbian or at least bisexual. By which I mean, she was just as interested in getting these girls to sleep with as Epstein was. On the other hand, some of the other girls who tried to play themselves as victims weren't as big of victims as they claim to be. One girl was "recruited", said no to the sex, but was then offered money to bring in her friends for sex instead. Which she did. It's not like she was raped and then given a side job which she somehow proved herself a… | /r/MensRights | 24/06/22 01:07 AM |
| 6 | NYT Feminist looks at current state of Feminism (perception).The only problem with this is people who reject feminism usually reject the men's rights movement as well. They see it as the male version of feminism, and assume that MRAs are equally as bad as feminists. Granted, not a lot of feminists support men's rights either, but this is the territory it brings us to. We have to prove that men's rights is different from feminism. It obviously is, of course (to start with, it's not based on ideology; we don't believe in a matriarchy), but lots of people wh… | /r/MensRights | 24/06/22 01:00 AM |
| 18 | Sexual ViolenceThere's a famous civil rights leader who met his end this way. He thought the sex was consensual and not prostitution, but once his clothes were off, she asked for money, which pissed him off because he didn't want to pay for sex. So she took his clothes and ran out to blackmail him, but he followed her (naked) to get his clothes back. She screamed rape as a naked black man is running down the hall chasing after her, and then someone shot him. He was an early rapper or blues musician trying to s… | /r/MensRights | 24/06/22 12:38 AM |
| 4 | What is a Patriarchy?Who do you think primarily benefits from this system? Who do you think is responsible for it? And who do you think continues to fight for power and privilege in their domain, while the other side has willingly given it up in the name of equality? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/06/22 06:17 PM |
| 2 | What is a Patriarchy?Can you explain what you think patriarchy theory is in your own words? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/06/22 04:54 PM |
| 3 | Is this square one for men?That's a good point. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/06/22 02:15 PM |
| 4 | What is a Patriarchy?It seems to me that there's a bit of hypergamy, and probably a biological tendency to care about women more than men, intersecting with modern capitalist society. On a certain level, money/goods/resources are being exchanged for sex/progeny/company, primarily through the institution of marriage. Where this money for sex exchange is codified into law via divorce, alimony, and child support laws. Although I would probably ask, why does it have to be anything? I honestly think this simplistic menta… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/06/22 01:12 PM |
| 3 | Is this square one for men?I've actually never read that book but I know what it's about. In some of his shorter essays though he talks about marriage and the "community of women". Basically how it's based on capitalist exploitation. Going so far as to say that women are used be the capitalist class to birth more workers. Which isn't completely wrong... While I like Marx a lot, I think anyone who tries to support their ideas by just saying "that's not what Marx said" like some scripture comes off as pretty weird. He was a… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/06/22 12:56 PM |
| 27 | Is this square one for men?There is a theory that men are subjected to higher levels of control from the state because, Their labor is more valuable to the capitalist class Men present a stronger threat against the establishment (most revolutions have been fought for by men) One of the key goals of early Marxism was getting women on board in a world where women (at the time) were largely shielded from the exploitation of the working class. That's where a lot of the gender theory from Engels came from. He tried to argue th… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/06/22 08:26 PM |
| 55 | Is this square one for men?The patriarchy works in magical and mysterious ways. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/06/22 07:51 PM |
| 1 | Is Justice Really Blind? Effects of Crime Descriptions, Defendant Gender and Appearance, and Legal Practitioner Gender on Sentences and Defendant Evaluations in a Mock TrialIs this saying that attractive male defendants were judged harsher by female evaluators? So kind of like the opposite of the halo effect? | /r/Male_Studies | 22/06/22 12:23 PM |
| 2 | ''Men are ruggedly individualistic, women are socially-minded'', what is your take on this talking point from feminists and using it as some sort of cop out and shift the blame back on men for their lack of social advoacy?I wonder how many people, following this logic, would agree that the patriarchy is created by hypergamy. Making women primarily responsible for the patriarchy. And the primary beneficiaries of it. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/06/22 11:56 PM |
| 21 | ''Men are ruggedly individualistic, women are socially-minded'', what is your take on this talking point from feminists and using it as some sort of cop out and shift the blame back on men for their lack of social advoacy?China has its own issues. Like sons being seen as retirement policies (by law no less) and what appears to be quite a bit of hypergamy, likely due to the gender ratio. Men are encouraged to buy multiple properties just to sit on them, and not even as investments. Women want to know how many properties you own because it's a metric for how well off you are. There are huge condominiums with very few people living in them because they were basically built to satisfy that artificial demand. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/06/22 01:41 PM |
| 18 | Stumbled upon a thread about the mythical gender wage gap.That's the thing about the pay gap. I'm actually all for discussing why women work less than men, and how that actually might be because of "misogyny" (in some cases legitimately so... I think we can admit that and still talk about the stuff that's unfair to men). But we need to acknowledge what the actual causes of the pay gap are if we're going to fix it. Including the part where men are encouraged to work themselves to death to have enough money to hand over to women in exchange for marriage … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/06/22 11:13 AM |
| 7 | Long video essay. Do you think the "manosphere" in its current form needs a dissection like this in a big time, or will the nuance will forever be lost in the culture wars? I have a lot of points to debate about after watching this but not sure where to start from.One thing I find interesting about the idea of a manosphere is the seemingly contradictory idea that society naturally caters to men. Like even on Reddit, twox is one of the default subs, whereas most male oriented subs are either banned or quarantined. So which gender really gets catered to by society? Which gender is, quite literally in this case, the default? Mind you, twox regularly has posts from feminazis saying things like, "I just hate men", with 10k+ upvotes, so I really don't think tho… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/06/22 10:26 AM |
| 15 | Stumbled upon a thread about the mythical gender wage gap.One thing to consider is overtime. In the US, the government considers either 32 hours or 33 hours as "full time", so that's the statistic people look at. Full-time working women make around 20% to 30% less than full-time working men. The way it's worded sounds an awfully lot like we're comparing equal hours, but obviously that's not true once you look at what's being measured. Well most people work on average just under 40 hours a week. And after 40 hours you get paid overtime, which can be 2.5… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/06/22 10:13 AM |
| 27 | Stumbled upon a thread about the mythical gender wage gap.The earnings gap is I think a valid gender issue that harms women, but the lack of honesty about what causes it is a problem. To begin with, you can't fix a problem if you don't acknowledge what it is. I actually think a lot of women, and a lot of radfems, are perfectly ok with the work vis-á-vis pay tradeoff so long as women are able to systematically exploit men for their pay. The fact that the discussion naturally moves towards male labor being exploited by women, as one of the main causes of… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/06/22 10:06 AM |
| 36 | Stumbled upon a thread about the mythical gender wage gap.I asked my girlfriend one day if she honestly thought her male co-workers were getting paid more than her. My follow-up was going to be ok, we're going to file a lawsuit. But I think she figured out what I was saying real fast. The irony is she probably makes more than most of her co-workers, and is always up for promotions and stuff, because she's one of their better employees. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/06/22 10:03 AM |
| 7 | Is it just me or is much of the transgender movement actually misandrist?Going off his edit, I don't think that's what he meant. You actually see these types of discussions in LGBT spaces (although half of that discussion is whether or not that discussion is transphobic). Pre-edit I think the logic definitely looked pretty similar to TERFs though. | /r/MensRights | 20/06/22 01:59 AM |
| 6 | Incels exist because no one started social media campaigns for unconventional men. They were instead continuously ostracized and their insecurities made the butt of jokes.In a backwards kind of way it reinforces the traditional idea that guys only care about sex. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/06/22 01:11 AM |
| 2 | Addressing all the claims made in a video by a feminist tiktokerWell look at her success. She has almost 1 million followers now. Facts and data only appeal to certain types of people (although people like her definitely need that background to make their content, and she's not shy about bringing out research in her videos when she needs it). If society ever starts to care about men and equality, it will probably look a lot more like what she's doing than the traditional MRA stuff. | /r/MensRights | 20/06/22 12:51 AM |
| 4 | Addressing all the claims made in a video by a feminist tiktokerShe talks more about social issues, like how girlfriends/ wives assume their way is correct, and men are just lazy / incompetent for not doing things the way a women would. Her message is that women need to respect men and their differences. And that will lead to happier relationships for everyone. She does talk about family court and things like that also though. | /r/MensRights | 19/06/22 08:35 PM |
| 5 | Addressing all the claims made in a video by a feminist tiktokerThere's a growing men's rights scene on tiktok and some good content creators, like @the_dadvocate. | /r/MensRights | 19/06/22 02:23 PM |
| 35 | Incels exist because no one started social media campaigns for unconventional men. They were instead continuously ostracized and their insecurities made the butt of jokes.The idea that women are perfect and shouldn't be criticized is another traditional gender norm that we're having trouble even acknowledging as a problem. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/06/22 07:38 PM |
| 31 | Incels exist because no one started social media campaigns for unconventional men. They were instead continuously ostracized and their insecurities made the butt of jokes.You could easily talk about this in the context of ending gender norms. Like it should be a very progressive topic in society. But because feminism dominates gender politics, and most feminists are effectively prude conservatives, that narrative never took off. The traditional gender norm is that women go after aggressive and domineering men. Ending that gender norm should be a good thing. For everyone, including women. But we can't ever have any real progress that might help men or otherwise po… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/06/22 07:36 PM |
| 4 | What is your story? What got you into men's rights? I used to be a massive supporter of feminism. I am not now. I do not hate women. I support them. I wish they would do the same. Let's tell our stories.Real feminists support men's rights. The problem is we don't have very many real feminists anymore. The fact that r/ feminism doesn't link to this sub is pretty telling on it's own. | /r/MensRights | 18/06/22 01:58 AM |
| 5 | What is your story? What got you into men's rights? I used to be a massive supporter of feminism. I am not now. I do not hate women. I support them. I wish they would do the same. Let's tell our stories.Most incels are POC, the poor, and people with disabilities, including mental disabilities. It is absolutely something that the left is hypocritical about. I think the cracks starting forming during gamergate when feminists started attacking "nerds", many of whom were always on their side before that. I remember seeing one blog post that blamed women not being in STEM on "nerdy guys being desperate losers who women don't want to be around". Like she wanted the nerds to go away and be replaced wi… | /r/MensRights | 18/06/22 01:24 AM |
| 1 | Dr phil says men can't be victims of domestic violenceYou're talking about licensing. Most practices use licensed psychiatrists mainly to prescribe medicine. And I don't think that "type" of psychiatrist has to go through all of that to write prescriptions anyway (I could be wrong though). You can also do all of that licensing with a MSc instead of an MD. It really doesn't make much of a difference. I have a MSc in psychology and I could go be a "psychiatrist" if I wanted to. Most "psychologists" who treat patients have a PhD (or PsyD) and there is… | /r/MensRights | 15/06/22 04:41 PM |
| 1 | Dr phil says men can't be victims of domestic violenceI still you think you basically have this backwards, but just so you know, our understanding of body / gender dysphoria comes from the field of psychology, not psychiatry. Whether or not you have a psychologist or a psychiatrist talking to you about that, in theory their knowledge should both come from the field of psychology. An actual psychologist, just picked at random, might have a better understanding because they go through more years of college, and focus on the scientific aspect of the f… | /r/MensRights | 15/06/22 04:16 PM |
| 1 | Dr phil says men can't be victims of domestic violenceI think you have psychiatry and psychology backwards. Psychology is the science, and psychiatry is the medical application of that science. Psychologists have to go through a lot more training than psychiatrists do. I think there are even 2 year psychiatry programs now for basic counselors and therapists, which basically teach you nothing. We typically don't fight with each other in the real world like your post implies, but there are some research studies in psychology exposing some less than i… | /r/MensRights | 15/06/22 03:51 PM |
| 7 | I'm looking for a book that proves women weren't oppressed through historyI don't know if it's banned, but The Privileged Sex by Martin van Crevald is pretty good. Like u/Neat_Zookeepergame99 said, it's not so much that women weren't oppressed, as it is that men were also oppressed. Possibly moreso than women were, depending on how you look at it. This book also provides context about the causes of both male and female oppression. Like how education was reserved for boys because education basically functioned as forced labour, instead of for learning things, for most … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/06/22 02:15 AM |
| 2 | Happy Men's Mental Health MonthInternational men's day was created to talk about male suicide rates, and that's what expanded into Movember, since it's in the month of November. It is generally about more than just mental health, but I also find it a little odd that June is supposed to be about this too... I think this is the first year I've heard about this, also. In the past it was always about IMD, Movember, and no shave November (for solidarity). | /r/MenSupportMen | 15/06/22 02:00 AM |
| 41 | Anyone else realize that most women don't really respect progressive men?Because at a biological level, I think both sexes recognize that what attracts them is what makes the other sex different, and it's runs much deeper than rationality can reach. I mean this is just basic science. It's called sexual dimorphism. You find it in just about every species on the planet. It's literally about advertising your gender so you mate with the "correct" gender to reproduce offspring. I think that's why cis men don't want to be perceived as gay. It's not necessarily homophobia, … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/06/22 01:37 AM |
| 5 | Men suffer from Depression more, and are more likely to kill themselves.Spotted the American. In East Europe men use pills because the belief is that pills are more deadly than guns. The fact is, men choose their method based on the perceived success rate, because men have a higher motivation to succeed. | /r/MensRights | 15/06/22 01:31 AM |
| 14 | Men suffer from Depression more, and are more likely to kill themselves.Most research shows higher rates of depression in women than in men. There is a new theory though that depression symptoms look different in men, and as a result, men are underdiagnosed. This is because of the historically gynocentric nature of the mental health system. The Palgrave Handbook of Male Psychology and Mental Health talks about this some if anyone is interested. There's also r/MalePsychology if you're interested in this type of research in general. | /r/MensRights | 14/06/22 12:13 PM |
| 6 | Why men commit more violent crimeCrime perpetration is a symptom of disenfranchisement. It happens when people are denied the means for survival and self-actualisation. Men commit crime at a higher rate because society is failing them. That's all there is to it. But people refuse to see things this way. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/06/22 02:02 AM |
| 11 | Gender experts finally admit the obvious: "toxic masculinity" is harmful languageWhy can't we just call that misandry? Why jump through hoops to try and frame sexism against men as somehow different (less important) than sexism against women? Maybe we should start talking about sexism in male terms, and then deflate misogyny with "toxic feminity". I mean that's basically what this is, just in reverse. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/06/22 01:58 AM |
| 2 | Some sources on the role and importance of fathers in child psychology and well-beingIt's this bill: https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comments/v7hezj/the_biggest_groups_fighting_floridas_bill_sb_1796/ Your usual suspects are all there, including NOW and a bunch of other "feminist" lobbying groups. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/06/22 01:29 AM |
| 3 | Some sources on the role and importance of fathers in child psychology and well-beingFlipping it around like that is more of a rhetorical device. Right now we have a lot of people arguing that women are better parents, and that the courts are doing what they're supposed to do when mothers are given custody. Ergo, there's nothing wrong with the way things are now. And no, we shouldn't bother with what's fair for both parents, because children should absolutely come first. People are comfortable making this argument because they assume that the science and data are squarely on the… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/06/22 01:11 AM |
| 1 | Some sources on the role and importance of fathers in child psychology and well-beingYeah there are all kinds of support services for mothers, as well as mental health support for women in general. There's a new bill in Florida that, among other things, would expand services like that to fathers. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/06/22 08:16 PM |
| 2 | Some sources on the role and importance of fathers in child psychology and well-beingOne thing to look forward to is teething. He might start crying more around that age. You can get teething toys and even some "medicated" gels for their gums but that stuff is hit and miss. I'm not trying to bring you any bad news of course, I just figure it's good to know ahead of time. Hopefully that doesn't bother him, but if you think about it, it is actually painful. So it's pretty normal for them to be cranky at that age (usually around 6 months, until their teeth come in). | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/06/22 08:08 PM |
| 5 | Some sources on the role and importance of fathers in child psychology and well-beingHow old is he? I've definitely experienced the "sleepless nights" that many parents talk about. One theory I've seen is that babies want to be held close at night to be safe from predators. So if you put them in a crib they cry until you pick them up. My experience with this was mixed at best though. They don't just want to be held or placed in the same bed as you. They want to be rocked as well, and you really can't do that if you're trying to sleep. They also do not operate on a normal 24 hour… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/06/22 02:35 PM |
| 2 | Soft power is much more relevant than hard power, and women are the ones who have the most power in society under this metric, not menThe most concrete thing we can do is change some of the laws that subjugate and behold men to their partners. Child custody and family law reform should be a top priority. We can discuss social norms as well, but who's to say which norms are caused by the legal situation, and vice versa? Changing our laws would probably cause quite a few social attitudes to change over time. Which would lead to new avenues of activism and progress towards the issue. | /r/MensRights | 13/06/22 02:19 PM |
| 5 | Soft power is much more relevant than hard power, and women are the ones who have the most power in society under this metric, not menI think the biggest threat is that the woman can break off the relationship if she isn't happy. This is a good thing. The point (that I'm sure you made) is that men do not have that privilege. There's a study somewhere showing that the woman's happiness, but not the man's, was a predictor for relationship success. What that means is that many men stay in unhappy relationships because they have fewer choices than women do. | /r/MensRights | 13/06/22 02:11 PM |
| 1 | Soft power is much more relevant than hard power, and women are the ones who have the most power in society under this metric, not menI think part of it is biology (through the gender empathy gap and female neoteny). There was a discussion about this recently on r/Male_Studies. I typed out part of a chapter from a psychology textbook that talks about this if you're interested: https://www.reddit.com/r/Male_Studies/comments/v9m7df/looking_for_something_specific_request_articles/ | /r/MensRights | 13/06/22 01:51 PM |
| 4 | Socialists such as Ernest Belfort Bax and Eugene V. Debs show socialism does not have to be opposed to men's rights.Yeah they technically anyone to post there, but they do enforce the "radical feminist" user flair for users who are documented radems. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/06/22 01:49 PM |
| 9 | The battered husband syndromeThis paper is considered an early groundbreaking paper about domestic violence, and about female-on-male violence in particular. Suzanne Steinmetz worked with Murray Strauss for many years and both are considered pioneers in the field of domestic violence research. The term "battered husband" actually predates the idea of a battered wife, despite some people insisting that the battered husband syndrome is "reactionary" against the battered wife syndrome (I prefer the term "battered spouse" to ag… | /r/Male_Studies | 13/06/22 01:10 PM |
| 5 | Socialists such as Ernest Belfort Bax and Eugene V. Debs show socialism does not have to be opposed to men's rights.r/stupidpol is decent. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/06/22 12:34 PM |
| 1 | "An Imagined Rebuttal to Amber Heard’s 2018 Washington Post Column" - Men Are GoodThis would do really well in r/JusticeForJohnnyDepp and the other r/deppVheardtrial sub. | /r/MensRights | 13/06/22 12:14 AM |
| 8 | Patriarchal violence explaining all domestic violence?I just want to add that Neo-Marxism is a reactionary movement in opposition to socialism / Marxism. As such it is a liberal movement and not a leftist movement. I hate it when people call this Marxism, because it really isn't. Actual Marxists (r/stupidpol) are opposed to this crap, and have been for basically half a century now. | /r/MensRights | 12/06/22 11:48 PM |
| 21 | Patriarchal violence explaining all domestic violence?Patriarchal violence is the radical feminist theory that violence is normalized by men because men dominate society through the patriarchy. As a result, when women are violent, it is said to be caused by the patriarchy. Violent women are simply trying to live up to the masculine ideals in society that are enforced by the patriarchy. There are some quotes from Bell Hook's book Feminism is For Everyone about this topic in this thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/eztklu/feminist_id… | /r/MensRights | 12/06/22 11:22 PM |
| 22 | Patriarchal violence explaining all domestic violence?Friendly reminder that Bell Hooks is literally a radical feminists. All these "feminists" like to talk about how the bad feminists are just the radicals but then they worship people like Bell Hooks who repeated white supremacist talking points about black men and was basically an early "femcel" / FDS sympathiser who was salty she couldn't get a white man to love her (which she tried to blame on the patriarchy, not her obvious hatred for men and her terrible personality). https://www.reddit.com/r… | /r/MensRights | 12/06/22 11:06 PM |
| 9 | I'm just now realizing how often the term "mutual abuse" was used during the Depp v Heard trial.Heard is a wealthy white women. She is the perfect victim. Depp was the imperfect victim in this case. I don't know why people are so miffed by this. Just grasping on straws I guess. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/06/22 07:55 PM |
| 3 | (MULTIPLE STUDIES) People stigmatize autistic men more than autistic women and less willing to hang out with autistic men than autistic women.I'm pretty sure that's just for blatant misandry. The rules aren't being used to censor content, and not everything posted there is male positive or anything. Facts and research definitely come first. | /r/MensRights | 12/06/22 07:10 PM |
| 2 | Looking for Something Specific? Request Articles Here.Of note, this study found that both male and female participants tended to show favouritism to women over men, indicating that differences in gender empathy are held by men and women alike. These findings are consistent with other research indicating that men are one of the few demographic groups who do not display in-group favouritism when making judgements and decisions, or when imparting empathy (Baumeister, 2010; Rudman & Goodman, 2004). This absence of in-group favouritism among males begin… | /r/Male_Studies | 12/06/22 07:08 PM |
| 2 | Looking for Something Specific? Request Articles Here.My guess is that it's both. Many men self-report that they stay with abusive women because they're afraid of the consequences of divorce, especially losing contact with their children. This also doubles as an important cause of suicide in men. The only thing I could find on this point though is a statistic that cites anonymous research claiming that 68% to 89% of men stay in abusive and / or unhappy relationships because they fear losing their children if they break up. This is quoted by The Sun… | /r/Male_Studies | 12/06/22 01:12 PM |
| 60 | Defence Minister of Singapore thinks it's unfair that women should be enlisted into National Service like men because "Women will be delayed in their entry into the workforce".It's only unfair if you think women are inferior to men. | /r/MensRights | 12/06/22 05:09 AM |
| 1 | A quick video designed to explain why men earn more in the earnings gap.I'm interested to know how many women you've polled to come to that conclusion Idk but Pew usually does power good research. https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2013/03/14/modern-parenthood-roles-of-moms-and-dads-converge-as-they-balance-work-and-family/ Feminism needs to take women as they are, not as it wishes they would be. In a 2013 poll, Pew asked American mothers about their “ideal” working arrangement. Sixty-one percent said they would prefer to work part-time or not at all. Catheri… | /r/MensRights | 11/06/22 11:54 PM |
| 11 | (MULTIPLE STUDIES) People stigmatize autistic men more than autistic women and less willing to hang out with autistic men than autistic women.This should be posted on r/Male_Studies. | /r/MensRights | 11/06/22 11:13 PM |
| 10 | Lets talk about the argument "men commit more violent crime"Society also expects more out of men than women. For example, when jobs aren't available, men are still expected to earn money for themselves, and often for other people (women and children) as well. But when there are no legal avenues to do this, they turn to crime. Women on the other hand have the privilege of being provided for, often by those very same men. They are also the ones who put pressure on men to earn money for them instead of earning it themselves. | /r/MensRights | 11/06/22 10:54 PM |
| 3 | Looking for Something Specific? Request Articles Here.This is a pretty good article which cites some of the research: https://becauseits2015.wordpress.com/2016/12/11/yes-dear-henpecked-husbands-and-one-sided-relationship-dynamics/ Basically in practice women control most aspects of most relationships. For example, as many as 80% of marriages are controlled and dominated by the wife. This also shows up as social aggression. Women are more socially and verbally aggressive than men, and engage in coercive control over their friends, family, and lovers… | /r/Male_Studies | 11/06/22 10:44 PM |
| 7 | Insane how normalized financially compensating women is. In Canada she is entitled to half your house and assets after only three years of dating.Let's start with you admitting that this is institutionalised discrimination against men, and that anyone who downplays that is part of the problem. | /r/MensRights | 11/06/22 07:21 PM |
| 12 | Insane how normalized financially compensating women is. In Canada she is entitled to half your house and assets after only three years of dating.Many drug laws are "racially neutral" but in practice target POC. Look up Jim Crow. We shouldn't have to explain why laws like this disproportionally affect men. You're being dishonest if you refuse to understand that. | /r/MensRights | 11/06/22 05:24 PM |
| 111 | Insane how normalized financially compensating women is. In Canada she is entitled to half your house and assets after only three years of dating.For anyone who wants to complain about "traditional gender norms", "patriarchal values", or "institutional discrimination", that's literally what this is. If you are against "the patriarchy" or "gender norms", then you ought to be against things like this. This is the root cause of many gender related issues in society, including but not limited to the wage gap, and taking women less seriously in professional environments. Because men are institutionally and systematically forced to hand over th… | /r/MensRights | 11/06/22 12:34 PM |
| 13 | Apex fallacy and the cringeworthy irrationality of RationalWiki.orgIt's always disappointing when "sceptics" seem ready and eager to latch on to radfem dogma with no amount of critical thought. It functions like a religion in society, with unsubstantiated (and often unprovable) beliefs, and blind allegiance from its followers who operate like they're in a cult. But they won't think twice about it. They turn into the same sheep who they criticize for never rationally thinking about other ideological beliefs that are common in society. A radfem sceptic is just sa… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/06/22 03:08 AM |
| 26 | Tasmanian Greens leader who watched 'too much' of Johnny Depp trial apologises | Australian left-wing politician speaks up in support of a DV victim. Normally that's a good thing, but here the victim is male so she's condemned by feminists for her comments.Btw that incident still actually occurred. I'm pretty sure the issue was that the lawyer exaggerated what happened. Heard and a couple of her friends called the police and said Depp had thrown a wine bottle at them, getting wine and glass all over the place. The police were there in like 4 minutes, catching the girls off guard (they take dv situations very seriously and have a really good response time). The wine bottle that Depp had supposedly thrown was still on the table. There was no wine or… | /r/MensRights | 09/06/22 01:11 PM |
| 8 | Feminist Law Professor Throwing Camillle Under the BusIf you are in need of help: Canada Canadian Center for Men and Families, Tel +1 647-479-9611, 9am - 5pm Monday - Saturday UK ManKind Initiative, Tel 01823 334244, weekdays 10am to 4pm Families Need Fathers (FNF), Tel 0300 0300 363, weekdays 9am - 10pm Monday - Friday and from 10am - 3pm on weekends US NCFM California Men's Center, Tel +1 619-231-1909 | /r/MensRights | 09/06/22 12:45 PM |
| 11 | Feminist Law Professor Throwing Camillle Under the BusThere are MRAs who run domestic violence centers for men. The ManKind Initiative, Families Need Fathers, the NCFM, and CAFE / Men and Families all help out male victims of domestic violence. There are resources somewhere in the sidebar here and also on the left wing men's wiki: /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/wiki/support/. Btw if you want to blame the patriarchy then you need to blame 3rd wave "intersectional" feminism for being part of that patriarchy. Feminist groups stand in the way of progress, an… | /r/MensRights | 09/06/22 12:33 PM |
| 7 | Women hits her boyfriend in public and the crowd laughs and cheers for her. She will most likely walk free and not get charged with DVYou've just explained one of the reasons why people, including women, ignore this. In no way does this counter the idea that women are complicit. Btw who teaches this to kids? It's not their mothers, their primarily female school teachers, and female child care professionals, is it? You know, the people around children the most. Not trying to point blame, I just think this is relevant if we're going to look at social norms. Especially if you think that social norms somehow exonerate women and pu… | /r/MensRights | 09/06/22 12:20 PM |
| 31 | Krystal Ball Analyses How Dominant 'Neoliberal Feminism' Has Alienated Younger Gender EgalitariansHere's the original study: https://www.splcenter.org/news/2022/06/01/poll-finds-support-great-replacement-hard-right-ideas People who think feminism is mostly a good thing: 94% older democrat males 52% older republican males 41% younger democrats males 31% younger republican males 87% older democrat females 32% older republican females 71% younger democrat females 34% younger republican females This is basically opposite of what everyone seems to think about the demographics of feminism. Most fe… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/06/22 08:04 AM |
| 14 | The Biggest Groups Fighting Florida's Bill (SB 1796) Ensuring 50/50 Equal Shared Physical Custody & Ending Permanent Alimony Are.........We're not holding hands with the right. We're trying to make the left better. A good analogy would be watching an arsonist put out a fire that the fire department pretended didn't exist. And arguing that the fire department should do what they're paid to do, that it's reprehensible a known arsonist is doing a better job than the literal fire department. And that for everyone's sake, they should get their act together before people start supporting the arsonist. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/06/22 08:20 PM |
| 20 | A look at female power by proxy: the Roman Empress Agrippina, her husband Claudius, and her son NeroI think it's important to point out that hard power isn't the only relevant aspects of society that need to be looked at, either today or in history. People talk about the apex fallacy as a shortcoming of the logic found in patriarchy theory, but I think the premise of it is flawed as well: Male patriarchs did not have as much power as everyone thinks they did. Instead they were often beholden to their wives who, by comparison, got to sit back with relative ease and comfort while these men got t… | /r/MensRights | 08/06/22 06:12 PM |
| 2 | About patriarchy theory on this subA Marxist analysis would definitely disagree that society favours men (and not class). My two cents is that we should be able to have discussion and debate here though. That poster didn't break the rule for mentioning the patriarchy, he broke it for generalising about gender race. And I can only assume there were other issues with the post not quoted by the mod. Then it was said in a response that we usually don't talk about the patriarchy because it's (in general) a pretty sexist idea, but not … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/06/22 04:02 PM |
| 3 | #MeToo proves that the woke movement is nothing but digital chivalry that infantilizes women and upholds traditional gender normsHere's one of the accounts. There's an Instagram post and a news article linked about it: https://np.reddit.com/r/JusticeForJohnnyDepp/comments/unc5ov/lady_victoria_hervey_supporting_johnny_depp_on/ It could be better documented but a lot of it was recorded in the trial. There are videos from the courtroom where they interview Heard and some of the witnesses about the abuse. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/06/22 03:51 PM |
| 2 | The Biggest Groups Fighting Florida's Bill (SB 1796) Ensuring 50/50 Equal Shared Physical Custody & Ending Permanent Alimony Are.........Does anyone know the status of the parental resources that were proposed? Was that axed or did it make it into this one? The state currently offers resources for mothers that single fathers don't have access to. This was from the house bill that was debated along side the senate bill (both usually need to be passed to make it to the governor). HB 7065, a $70 million initiative, will provide resources for educational and mentorship programs to help children, fathers and families in the state thro… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/06/22 02:49 PM |
| 5 | #MeToo proves that the woke movement is nothing but digital chivalry that infantilizes women and upholds traditional gender normsYou could try asking in r/JusticeForJohnnyDepp if you want. Google doesn't like my search queries, either. This is just what I've seen discussed over there. She's an "ex-lesbian" (now bisexual) and some of her female partners have spoken out about their relationships with her. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/06/22 02:11 PM |
| 16 | The Biggest Groups Fighting Florida's Bill (SB 1796) Ensuring 50/50 Equal Shared Physical Custody & Ending Permanent Alimony Are.........I don't know how I feel about this. I think it's embarrassing. You have to acknowledge, publicly, that left wing groups are the ones standing in the way of progress, when you know deep down that the left is supposed to support things like this. It won't look good when the history books are written about this. They'll talk about how the left championed for civil rights for at least half a century and then dropped the mantle, only to have it picked back up by conservative groups who brought us the… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/06/22 12:49 PM |
| 18 | Born badAlmost all of the research shows a pretty consistent bias against men at all levels of the justice system. For example, per capita police shooting are twice as high against POC and twenty times as high against men. Men are 20% to 40% more likely to suspected and profiled for a crime. Men are more likely to be given the death penalty for the same crime and mitigating factors. I could go on... In academia this is known as replication. The Starr study is relatively popular, I think because of some … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/06/22 02:24 AM |
| 12 | Now is a time to act.http://www.saveservices.org/dv/falsely-accused/survey/ There are a bunch of other sources here as well: https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comments/mud9gj/information_needed_part_3/ | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/06/22 05:37 PM |
| 30 | Now is a time to act.I've been sharing variations of this comment around Reddit when it seems applicable. Just trying to raise awareness and let people know what resources are out there available to them. Friendly reminder that half of all domestic violence victims are men, and they are rarely taken seriously. Most men are not celebrities and most men do not have the money and fame to fight this the way Johnny Depp has. False allegations affect 1 in 10 people, including 1 in 7 men. False allegations are a form of do… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/06/22 01:36 PM |
| 12 | This article--"Female Socialization is a Transphobic Myth"--is a wild ride.Here are a couple of things: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251639801_Men_among_men_do_not_take_norm_enforcement_seriously https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-mothers-have-boys-dont-cry-bias-new-study-suggests/ | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/06/22 12:46 AM |
| 7 | “The US National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey found that men are victims of IPV as often as women and in 2011, 40% of the severe physical violence was directed toward men.” JD is a victim of IPV according to the findings of this research studyThere are some discussions about this in the Johnny Depp subs. Including some extensive quotes from the paper. https://np.reddit.com/r/deppVheardtrial/comments/v55did/a_research_article_based_on_deppheard_uk_trial/ https://np.reddit.com/r/JusticeForJohnnyDepp/comments/v5aiym/an_expert_in_ipv_evaluated_deppheard_uk_trial/ Don't brigade or anything. I just figured some of the comments over there might be interesting or useful. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/06/22 05:41 PM |
| 41 | This article--"Female Socialization is a Transphobic Myth"--is a wild ride.Women are often gatekeepers for male social approval as well. This is what soft power is about. That's why being a virgin (or "incel") is such a big deal. Being able to get women to like you and have sex with you is a big part of how society views you as a person. I think most men would probably say that they feel more pressure from women to act and behave in certain ways than by other men. There's even research now showing that gender norms are more strongly enforced by women than by men. I'm n… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/06/22 05:34 PM |
| 6 | Why is the male suicide rate getting any significant recognition from mainstream media?In fact that's part of the reason why they're in positions of power. Society only puts people there if they advocate for women and children over men. | /r/MensRights | 05/06/22 02:09 PM |
| 49 | This article--"Female Socialization is a Transphobic Myth"--is a wild ride.moreso because it tries so hard to insist on the essential correctness of that narrative while blasting it full of hole You kind of have to walk this line in some circles if you don't want to get called an "alt-right incel" and have your thoughts completely discredited. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/06/22 01:45 PM |
| 28 | The Only One Setting Back Abuse Survivors Is Amber Heard (And The Media That Propped Her Up)What I find interesting is the sudden adoption of "most abuse is bidirectional" by feminists. They've fallen on "both were toxic" and just can't admit that a woman can unilaterally abuse a man. Of course most abuse is bidirectional but that's been something MRAs have been saying for decades. It's what Erin Pizzey first noticed in the 1970s (IIRC) when she opened the world's first domestic violence shelter for women. Most of the women were themselves pretty violent and not much better than the me… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/06/22 02:04 AM |
| 3 | Gender Gap in Suicide rates within the context of Egalitarianism vs Feminism:I think you have to add each image individually into a Reddit album, even it's already in an album on imgur or Instagram. It's kind of tedious to do. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/06/22 01:50 PM |
| 37 | Women oversharing their partners' private lives with their friends - is it a problem? What can we do about it?This is covered under your right to privacy, which is considered a basic human right. The UN definition talks about slander in this context. The allegation can actually be true, but still considered a violation of your rights, if it was done in confidence and not meant to be public. I don't think a lot of people (victims or perpetrators) appreciate that aspect of privacy very much. I'm sure there are exceptions to this but the gist is that you should have some level of control over what's being … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/06/22 01:45 PM |
| 2 | r/news is censoring resources for male victims of domestic violence because they are associated with men's rights groupsIt would probably be construed as brigading if I posted the link. It's in my comment history (probably a bit buried now) if you want to confirm that what I said is true though. | /r/MensRights | 03/06/22 02:30 PM |
| 6 | r/news is censoring resources for male victims of domestic violence because they are associated with men's rights groupsI watched something about her and Epstein recently. My opinion is she had to be a lesbian or something (*not that being a lesbian is bad of course). Some of the girls may have been doing it for money, which doesn't really excuse them. But she was involved in the sex activities herself, like having orgies with the girls she trafficked. So it was more than just the money for her (also I don't think she was technically getting paid for it anyway). She was a mod though?? Like right here on Reddit? | /r/MensRights | 03/06/22 02:04 PM |
| 1 | Depp-Heard verdict live: Johnny Depp wins defamation case against Amber HeardApparently he had ties to the newspaper company also. Like there were a few things wrong with that case that shouldn't have happened. I'm seeing mixed analysis of it but I still think it's relevant that it was against the newspaper company and not Amber Heard herself. The new trial was between Depp and Heard so it seems like it's a lot more relevant. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/06/22 09:09 PM |
| 1 | Alimony laws has no basis in societal/legal/civil principles. It amounts to naked robbery from one group to another.I'm not about paying for the non-working partner life long, but a 3 maybe 6 on a stretch safety net for the non working parent. Why don't you think the state should step in if it's necessary? Granted I generally come from a UBI perspective where that would probably happen. But even in a regular welfare state it's not like she'll be going hungry or anything. And welfare is good for at least 6 months at a time in most places, which follows your timeline pretty close. | /r/Divorce_Men | 02/06/22 06:46 PM |
| 3 | Alimony laws has no basis in societal/legal/civil principles. It amounts to naked robbery from one group to another.I think this is just opportunity cost. If you're a woman and don't want to risk this, then don't become a SAHM. If you do want to risk it, then go ahead. But don't expect to be bailed out when your own choices that you made end up hurting you in the long run. I do support safety nets and welfare but I don't think the husband should pay her directly, and I don't think we can support gender equality while also absolving women from the consequences of their actions. Equal rights mean equal conseque… | /r/Divorce_Men | 02/06/22 06:06 PM |
| 2 | It's very quiet out there, I haven't Heard a thingThis is called projection if you're looking for a word to describe this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection | /r/MensRights | 02/06/22 04:16 PM |
| 3 | Depp-Heard verdict live: Johnny Depp wins defamation case against Amber HeardYeah sorry I ninja edited that before you responded. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/06/22 02:22 AM |
| 5 | Depp-Heard verdict live: Johnny Depp wins defamation case against Amber HeardThat trial did not find that she was telling the truth or that Depp was abusive. What it found was that the newspaper she went to had no way of knowing that she was lying. So it makes sense in a legal context. He was suing the newspaper, not her. And it wasn't obvious to the newspaper that she was lying. So it's really not their fault. It's her fault for lying to them. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/06/22 02:14 AM |
| 6 | Depp-Heard verdict live: Johnny Depp wins defamation case against Amber HeardAccording to r/JusticeForJohnnyDepp it comes to $8,350,000 USD (adding all three together). | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/06/22 02:10 AM |
| 4 | Depp-Heard verdict live: Johnny Depp wins defamation case against Amber HeardA version of that did actually happen btw. The police even opened an investigation over it. Body cam footage from the case was presented in the trial to the jurors. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/06/22 02:05 AM |
| 16 | Depp-Heard verdict live: Johnny Depp wins defamation case against Amber HeardThere may be criminal perjury charges brought against her in the US now. Depp's lawyers set that up for the state to pursue it if they decide to. A lot of the questions reminded her that she was under oath and some of the lies she was telling were brought out with physical evidence that is now legally documented. So despite perjury also being a difficult charge to bring, it seems like it should be an open and shut case. Depp can't bring that against her though; the state can decide it doesn't ca… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/06/22 08:41 PM |
| 6 | An open invitation for a roundtable to the feminists of redditI have no idea. According to r/ModSupport it might have been scammers reporting the sub. So maybe if it's a smaller sub it's more susceptible to that. I found a new way to contact the Reddit admin that seems a lot more promising so I guess I'll see what happens. r/ModSupport probably gave me wrong information to fix it so the Reddit admin might not be ignoring me. Another mod who had the same problem already had their sub fixed. My sub was extremely chill, and more importantly, relatively small.… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/06/22 02:25 PM |
| 15 | An open invitation for a roundtable to the feminists of redditThose that are reasonable and sane get booted out of the movement. I tried to create a space on Reddit for people like that called r/nonradicalfeminism. It was banned somehow and the Reddit admin are being quite about it when I reached out to them. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/06/22 12:15 PM |
| 32 | Why are women objectified in your opinion?There's an article about this that was just published in a men's health magazine. It's about one of the marvel superheroes. Marvel Star Will Poulter Calls Superhero Body Transformations 'Unhealthy' and 'Unrealistic' https://www.yahoo.com/amphtml/lifestyle/marvel-star-poulter-calls-superhero-164600168.html | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/05/22 11:38 PM |
| 2 | Some men's rights statistics?Do you honestly believe that the roughly 1% of people who are trans and intersex somehow translates to a systematic, forced chemical destruction of the male gender? Do you not think there are biologically born women who transition to the male gender? I'm not trying to get into a debate about trans rights but even if you're against people choosing their gender, you do realize that it's a small number of people, right? The male gender isn't going anywhere. Male labor is far too valuable for societ… | /r/MensRights | 29/05/22 01:43 PM |
| 28 | Some men's rights statistics?1 in 3 men have been victims of domestic abuse 1 2 1 in 6 men have been sexually assaulted (around 80% by women, not by "other men") 1 3 . 50% of college aged men have been coerced into having unwanted sex (95% of them by their girlfriend). 1 in 7 men have been victims of false allegations 4 5 1 in 10 men will be incarcerated at some point in their life 6 1 in 4 black men will be incarcerated at some point in their life, and around half will have a negative interaction with the police 6 7 Male v… | /r/MensRights | 29/05/22 01:23 PM |
| 3 | Blog by Dr Rick Bradford looking at the gender pay gap using official UK statistics (from 2017). Includes: "Men work 55% more hours than women; Men pay 169% more income tax than women. The all-ages pay rate gap for full time workers *net of income tax* has been estimated to be roughly 7% (median)."That's really interesting. A lot of people work more than what they're paid for and I'd actually venture to guess that men do this more than women. They say the biggest form of "theft" is wage theft, where employees work more than what they're paid for. So this is probably a pretty big factor that's gone unnoticed for a long time. | /r/MensRights | 29/05/22 12:49 PM |
| 3 | LWMA Lounge May 2022That's just about education. Their definition for hypergamy is dating someone with a higher education than you. When you look at income instead of education I think the statistic is that only 30% of women are with men who earn more than them. And an analysis of the data shows a few extra things, like in many cases it's from a temporary gap in employment. The man they're with still earns more than them (or at least did before they got together) and is just between jobs or something. There's also … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/05/22 02:57 AM |
| 13 | Divorce...There's actually a pretty good source about this: Beyond Economic Fatherhood: Encouraging Divorced Fathers to Parent. Abstract: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=569363 Pdf: https://www.law.upenn.edu/journals/lawreview/articles/volume153/issue3/Maldonado153U.Pa.L.Rev.921(2005).pdf It also contains like 10 or so studies about gender bias in family court. That bias is part of the reason men don't fight as much. It's kind of like a stereotype bias. You know you're not supposed to … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/05/22 02:50 AM |
| 45 | Dear Feminists- what do you do to help men? Signed, a Men's Rights ActivistI've seen people call this trickle down equality. It's a pretty apt comparison. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/05/22 09:22 PM |
| 3 | The shared history and values of the women's movement and the men's movementsIt's a good goal to have but I don't know how achievable it is. Long term I think technology will advance to the point that capitalism no longer makes sense. And I imagine most of our social issues will be solved when that happens. Especially since a big aspect of male inequality comes from work life balance and being providers for women and children. But this probably won't happen for another couple hundred years. Much longer than what Marx originally envisioned (that's basically what socialism… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/05/22 03:40 PM |
| 12 | stoicism and menI believe in most cases, men trying to talk about their issues to women will end badly, unless you're close to her. You are likely to get ostracized and cancelled at worst, or unintentionally misunderstood at best I wonder if part of the issue with talking to women is that men's viewpoints and problems just aren't understood by women. Not because women can't understand men but because as a society we've never prioritized this. Instead we have negative stereotypes like "men are simple minded" and… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/05/22 12:37 PM |
| 34 | I think there is this dilemma, that men are not allowed to show emotion in societyAnother thing you don't see discussed is the fact that men do support each other. Part of the problem is that traditional male avenues of support are either seen as old fashioned, or are labeled misogynistic and "part of the patriarchy". Many men build fires, drink in pubs, or watch sports to blow off steam. Feminists have to recon with the fact that 1) women are actually the ones falling short when it comes to emotional support and 2) feminism itself has done a lot to reduce male camaraderie an… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/05/22 03:00 PM |
| 18 | What do you think of the possible future restrictions on abortion? Will men feel the effects of it?The vast majority of FGM is less invasive than MGM. There are different types of genital mutilation, and while it's true that there is a form of FGM worse than circumcision, that type is rarely used compared to other forms. It doesn't have to be a competition because all genital mutilation is harmful. But it is actually true that men suffer from this more than women. Both when you consider the numbers and when you consider the severity of the procedure. It is also the case that female "circumcis… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/05/22 01:17 PM |
| 7 | What do you think of the possible future restrictions on abortion? Will men feel the effects of it?They may legitimately be ignorant. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/05/22 01:12 PM |
| 13 | Why many women choose the wrong partners, and how that benefits more traditional menWe set up one of my girlfriend's friends with a guy that both of us can vouch for. This was after she came and complained that she couldn't get a good guy to stay with her and asked if we knew anybody. Well she was with him for like two weeks and went back to choosing awful guys to be with. It was a good thing for him though. She got pregnant with the next guy (she put off getting her next birth control shot and literally didn't think she'd get pregnant so fast). And she has an abusive side. Her… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/05/22 11:09 AM |
| 16 | Why many women choose the wrong partners, and how that benefits more traditional menThe truth is that women mainly want traditionally masculine "Travis Thundermuscles" kind of guys. However if you say this, people will act like you're some kind of basement-dwelling conspiracy theorist suggesting that reptilians run the government. People talk about and criticize male preferences all the time. Everyone knows what kind of women men fall for. And yeah it sucks if you're a woman who doesn't have those characteristics. So why is it that we can't talk about the same thing in reverse?… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/05/22 10:59 AM |
| 20 | What do you think of the possible future restrictions on abortion? Will men feel the effects of it?Why do you assume they would elect women? If a male politician wins an election that just means that he carried the female vote better than a female candidate. Many women are perfectly happy voting for male candidates if they have their interests in mind. And the multi billion dollar women's lobbying complex generally guarantees that women's interests are front and center anyway. Btw the leaked supreme court document actually talks about this and argues that if women want abortion rights all the… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/05/22 10:30 AM |
| 26 | What do you think of the possible future restrictions on abortion? Will men feel the effects of it?Routine male genital mutilation is another example. Which is still widely practiced in America. Part of the problem might be that they teach men that their own bodily integrity rights aren't valid, so why would they respect anyone else's? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/05/22 10:20 AM |
| 1 | Child’s mother petitioning after approved custody agreement.They have lawyers who sign up to work with them. You can pick but you have to pick from a list they give you. I assume it works just like any other kind of insurance. Like they've probably gotten more money out of me over the years than what I've used but I still think it's worth it for the peace of mind. | /r/MensRights | 27/05/22 01:41 AM |
| 34 | Transgender man convicted of assault for having sex with women who did not know he was using a prosthetic deviceMost trans people do not agree with this. This has mostly been a thing created by certain groups because they love drama and they love coming up with new ways that make people oppressed so they can be indignant about it and be social justice heroes. They do all this of course but then they ignore much more relevant and real forms of oppression that men face... | /r/MensRights | 26/05/22 07:00 PM |
| 2 | If This Sub Had Reddit Talk, Would You Use It?Reddit added a regular chat feature a couple years ago which seems like it bombed. They're just trying to expand their platform like every other social media site. Kind of like how Instagram and YouTube added short "stories" which mimick how TikTok works. I'm not against the chat (or voice chat) on Reddit but from a strategic standpoint I don't see it ever being that popular. People come here because of the forum functionality, and then use other things to chat and talk to people socially. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/05/22 01:46 PM |
| 49 | Innocence is Not Enough, says Supreme CourtThere's been a trend for several decades to get rid of compensatory damages when you're falsely imprisoned. It used to be you could get so much money per day you were locked up but this was costing the state a lot of money because a lot of people (especially minority men) were being wrongly imprisoned. I guess this is the federal government stepping in to say that they're not going to compensate people if local states fail to do so. You may still be able to get compensation at the state level an… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/05/22 01:38 PM |
| 3 | Child’s mother petitioning after approved custody agreement.Look into legal insurance plans. Most are under $30 a month with a $250 deductable. Your employer might cover it as an extra benefit also (I think I pay $15 a month with an employer $15 match). You might be able to start using it the moment you sign up (I think legal shield has a slightly more expensive introductory rate if you're already under litigation). I've retained counsel for over 6 years now ever since my son was born. It's definitely worth it. | /r/MensRights | 26/05/22 01:14 PM |
| 10 | "Goodbye, My Friendcels": An Analysis of Incel Suicide Posts [Pre-Print]Suicide and murder are often related in cases like this. When people hit their limit they will sometimes engage in one or the other (or both). There was a case recently where a guy on Reddit killed some people and they called it a "mass shooting" and a hate crime against women. I forget who all he killed but his victims (3 or 4 in total, including his parents) were abusive towards him. So it's not like he went out and started shooting at random women because he hated women. He posted about the a… | /r/Male_Studies | 26/05/22 02:46 AM |
| 4 | Child’s mother petitioning after approved custody agreement.This is common in Texas so I'm guessing the US. Check out r/familylaw if you need more advice, OP. My understanding is that there are standard calculations based either on income or on need that is then adjusted based on how much custody you have. It's very likely you can pay child support with this "step up 55/45 plan" if you make more money than her. They don't usually care who actually spends money on what. They just follow that formula and then call for the next case. | /r/MensRights | 26/05/22 01:47 AM |
| 6 | I really don’t want a kid. I’m being shunned for saying such.There's a reddit community r/childfree about this. | /r/MensRights | 26/05/22 01:45 AM |
| 12 | Thoughts on "weaponized incompetence"?I think that's what it comes down to. My dad used to say it doesn't matter what he does, she'll find a way to be angry about it. Eventually "not trying" turned into a valid strategy because even when he did try he was still wrong and he would still get yelled at. The book men are from Venus women are from Mars talks about this. If women want their husbands to do things they need to give them the freedom to do it their way, and to make mistakes. After all, how many of your wives and girlfriends a… | /r/MensRights | 26/05/22 01:38 AM |
| 23 | 'How to Murder Your Husband' author convicted for murdering husbandr/nottheonion | /r/MensRights | 26/05/22 01:28 AM |
| 60 | There are, right now, men in the USA who are denied the right to vote just because they are menThis is true for natural born citizens as well. Failure to register for the draft is a felony. In basically every US state, felons who are serving a sentence (which is a mandatory 5 years) cannot vote. In addition, it is often the case that felons cannot vote even after they have served their sentence. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/05/22 12:49 AM |
| 14 | Two X Literally Creates a Hate Post, and Reddit Says It Is Not HateJohn Stewart made bits about this. They interviewed people at one of their democrat conventions who said everyone was invited: gays, queers, Mexicans, etc. But not those "hateful gun toting bumpkin tea baggers". https://www.cc.com/video/mlceb4/the-daily-show-with-jon-stewart-hope-and-change-2-the-party-of-inclusion I see American feminists still haven't learned much since then. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/05/22 01:41 AM |
| 5 | In light of Chris Hemsworth’s nudity in the trailer of Thor: Love And Thunder, I think it’s worth asking why the notion that female sexualization is wrong was immediately followed by copious amounts of male nudityWell the examples in the OP are about the same people. They say it's bad when women are sexualized but then say it's good when men are sexualized. It's punching up against the patriarchy in the later case. It's literally part their ideological framework. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/05/22 10:30 PM |
| 6 | In light of Chris Hemsworth’s nudity in the trailer of Thor: Love And Thunder, I think it’s worth asking why the notion that female sexualization is wrong was immediately followed by copious amounts of male nudityI think any analysis of Greek era statues refutes this. I mean why are you so tied to the idea that it used to be the other way around? People have been saying for a long time that radfem were making a bunch of noise out of nothing. Just look at Barbie which was a huge feminist thing during the 90s. And then compare barbie to like gi joe or he man from the 80s. This isn't anything new. It's not like it's 2022 and we're just now pointing this out. The only thing we're seeing now is evidence that … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/05/22 10:06 PM |
| 8 | In light of Chris Hemsworth’s nudity in the trailer of Thor: Love And Thunder, I think it’s worth asking why the notion that female sexualization is wrong was immediately followed by copious amounts of male nudityGuys need to know that they're more attractive than society tells them. I wish this was something I knew earlier in life. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/05/22 09:53 PM |
| 7 | In light of Chris Hemsworth’s nudity in the trailer of Thor: Love And Thunder, I think it’s worth asking why the notion that female sexualization is wrong was immediately followed by copious amounts of male nudityIt might not be literally equivalent but I think a lot of people downplay how sexualized the male chest is. Not to mention the "V" from low hanging pants which is always part of it. Just literally ask any girl. Or a gay dude. Or go lurk on tumblr / twitter. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/05/22 09:48 PM |
| 3 | Thought shower : gender and mysticismProbably. I'd like to see this become more acceptable for men. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/05/22 09:42 PM |
| 4 | In light of Chris Hemsworth’s nudity in the trailer of Thor: Love And Thunder, I think it’s worth asking why the notion that female sexualization is wrong was immediately followed by copious amounts of male nudityYes absolutely. We're just talking about a double standard is all. Don't get upset when guys watch Baywatch if women are masturbating and leaving "used" cucumber dildos behind in theaters for theater staff to clean up later. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/05/22 09:36 PM |
| 6 | In light of Chris Hemsworth’s nudity in the trailer of Thor: Love And Thunder, I think it’s worth asking why the notion that female sexualization is wrong was immediately followed by copious amounts of male nudityWell mine obviously. And I haven't seen the latest Thor movie, but basing it on how he was objectified in the female ghost busters, it was very much done in a subversive and self aware manner. Given that Taika Waititi is the director of this latest one, I think it's basically a given that it will be more of that. Female fan service has been a huge thing in all the recent superhero movies. There's definitely a capital monetization angle over casting and sexualizing attractive men into these roles… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/05/22 09:18 PM |
| 7 | Thought shower : gender and mysticismA lot of women seem to prefer the song and dance around religion and spirituality whereas men are more likely to prefer the intellectual side of formal theology. Think about the difference between Alan Watts and his theoretical musings on spirituality compared to someone like Joan of Arc who was more of an icon or a relic than a thinker or a leader. It's probably not a perfect comparison but I think it plays into traditional gender scripts. Where men have to "work" (or "do") to have something bu… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/05/22 08:52 PM |
| 11 | In light of Chris Hemsworth’s nudity in the trailer of Thor: Love And Thunder, I think it’s worth asking why the notion that female sexualization is wrong was immediately followed by copious amounts of male nudityWho's opinion is this though? Is there any data to back it up? My hunch is that this probably isn't true. It's just something that "feels right" to people who want to pretend that the world is more hostile towards women than it actually is. So they can "punch up" and justify views that should be seen as sexist towards men. If you look back through history you see a lot of penis and you see a lot of boobs. But very few representations of vulva -- which should really be the corollary to showing of… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/05/22 08:14 PM |
| 19 | In light of Chris Hemsworth’s nudity in the trailer of Thor: Love And Thunder, I think it’s worth asking why the notion that female sexualization is wrong was immediately followed by copious amounts of male nudityI'm pretty sure that would just make it worse. Here's a description from the men's rights sub: If you haven't seen the trailer for the film I suggest you take a look, midway into the trailer we have Thor(Chris Hemsworth" anchored by chains in a colosseum of some kind, he gets his clothes removed via magic and the women all faint, then the camera shows his "friends" two other women where one suggests helping but the other says "eventually, have some grapes." Imagine two guys enjoying themselves a… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/05/22 06:15 PM |
| 3 | Why do you think a lot of men don’t even think about trying to fight hypothetical biological determinants ?I think me and you talked about this briefly the other day. I definitely share you concerns at the very least. I think what we've seen is a push from some groups to define everything about human nature in the context of postmodern social constructs. And there are some people who either see this as unscientific, or against "common sense". Maybe not specifically on the grounds that postmodernism itself is invalid, but definitely on the grounds that the specific interpretation that's being pushed i… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/05/22 02:46 PM |
| 7 | There is no biological imperative for white-knighting, it's the cultureDawkins didn't invent the "theory" of neoteny. And given that his work is around 50 years old now, it doesn't surprise me that there is plenty of healthy criticism around it. I can see that this isn't going to convince you though so I see no further reason to pursue it. There is plenty of evidence for the gender empathy gap though. https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comments/rycsf5/on_the_gender_empathy_gap_and_its_correlates_a/ u/lightning_palm filled several posts with references t… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/05/22 02:14 PM |
| 4 | There is no biological imperative for white-knighting, it's the cultureIf you're going to deny that women exhibit larger neotenous characteristics than men then I don't know what to tell you. A quick look on Google scholar finds ample evidence for this. As well as ample evidence for sexual selection based on this feature. https://digitalcommons.usu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1601&context=fchd_facpub This has been known about for decades. Richard Dawkins even talks about this in his books on evolutionary theory (where he links it to the difference in energy req… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/05/22 01:42 PM |
| 1 | There is no biological imperative for white-knighting, it's the cultureWhy do you think this gender norm is consistent across history and across cultures? Technically the theory is that men are natural protectors, not necessarily that men are specifically inclined to protect only women. This is theorized to be part of masculinity, and linked to testosterone. It can also be thought of in the context of people, in general (men and women both), lacking as large of an instinct to protect adult male humans. This is found throughout the animal kingdom and has an evolutio… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/05/22 01:17 PM |
| 2 | Q4M: How do women fail to treat you “as people” or “as human” in dating?You're just trying to argue for the sake of arguing. There's no way you've already forgotten that this was about things much more mundane than getting into a fist fight. I agree that a decent number of (mainly white) people do not have to worry about significant levels of danger in their lives. But that doesn't change the fact that everyone knows a man is always expected to be the one who risks his life and safety for women. And this is pervasive throughout all of society in every context no mat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/22 06:31 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: How do women fail to treat you “as people” or “as human” in dating?If the most dangerous thing you and your husband do is take out the trash then yes I'd call that privilege. You're still missing the point though. This isn't about you. Do you not agree that, in general, to the extent that people run into danger in their lives (even if it is just the trash), it is typically expected that the man takes care of that instead of the woman? Good on you for breaking gender norms if you personally don't do this. But remember this is not about you. It is about society. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/22 06:11 PM |
| 2 | Q4M: How do women fail to treat you “as people” or “as human” in dating?We are not talking about you and your husband. To begin with this is a Q4M, and in general we're talking about society and gender norms. Your experiences as a privileged middle class white woman where you've presumably never had to worry about getting mugged, or cleaning the gutters, or taking care of a wasps nest, is not universal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/22 06:00 PM |
| -1 | Q4M: How do women fail to treat you “as people” or “as human” in dating?You can't deny that 9 times out of 10, men are the ones doing most of the dangerous stuff in a relationship. I think you can talk about it being a partnership and there might be some valid points there. But ultimately it still means that her life and safety is more valuable than your own. Outright denying that this is common and normal doesn't really help you any. It actually kind of looks desperate tbh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/22 05:42 PM |
| 0 | Q4M: How do women fail to treat you “as people” or “as human” in dating?It's a lot more than that tbh. I'm the one who takes care of hornets nests, has to check on her if she stubs her toe, makes sure the doors are locked, sleeps closest to the door, checks on things at night, climbs up on the roof to trim branches, does all the electrical work in the house... I know parent used the word bodyguard, but the protector role is a lot more than just that. It inherently treats men as less important -- "less of a human" -- than women, because we're the ones putting our own… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/22 05:13 PM |
| 2 | What are some good domestic abuse charities/shelters/orgs to point people toward if they are becoming interested in supporting male victims?The NCFM runs a male domestic violence center in California. We actually have a wiki page with a list of groups here: https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/wiki/support/ | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/05/22 12:40 PM |
| 16 | Johnny Depp wins women's abuse organization's support in Amber Heard trialThere's research showing that the biggest predictor of male violence against women is whether or not a woman is violent towards men. This is a little different than what you're talking about but these types of findings are published and talked about. Usually with a bit of care to avoid victim blaming and to try to placate feminists. But facts are facts and I think stuff like this will always be obvious to anyone with an open mind who thinks critically about this stuff. Consequently, a fourth arg… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/05/22 12:33 PM |
| 1 | Stand by himI'm not reading all that but I got to you study and want to counter with this: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s13178-020-00489-z I'm not touching the rest of this with a 10 foot poll but if you're a neuroscientist you ought to know better than to think being trans is a choice. Current scholarship is putting it closer and closer to theories about intersex people, almost like a mild "case" of being intersex, which is medically recognized (not sure how to word this gracefully for trans p… | /r/MensRights | 20/05/22 10:21 PM |
| 3 | Do our men deserve better?There's a lot of people rejecting science. It's not a valid critique. By which I mean experts in the field of male psychology. There is an academic trend in formal psychology away from hegemonic masculinity. It is becoming passe. I'm commenting on the state of academic scholarship specifically, not lay people. I've read Connell papers and I've not found such a sentiment, could you provide a source for her retraction of the concept? I'm pretty sure there was something linked here where she said c… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/05/22 06:24 PM |
| 12 | Are feminists really using the Apex argument? Examples needed.What about this one? https://everydayfeminism.com/2016/02/160-examples-of-male-privilege/ I'm kind of curious what the point of this exercise is though. If the person you're talking to isn't making this argument, why does it matter? Not all feminists believe the same thing. And the idea of what a patriarchy is has evolved over time in feminist discourse. I'm not saying they don't use this argument of course. Plenty of feminists in the wild on Reddit use it for example. But maybe it's not relevan… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/05/22 06:06 PM |
| 12 | Are feminists really using the Apex argument? Examples needed.Like this? https://everydayfeminism.com/2014/09/what-is-privilege/ | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/05/22 04:58 PM |
| 3 | Do our men deserve better?Thanks I changed it. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/05/22 04:32 PM |
| 3 | Do our men deserve better?There are a lot of people rejecting the hegemonic interpretation as well. I also see people (liberals) using it in an unscientific way. They present hegemonic masculinity as one type of masculinity out of many that men can reject to be better people. Which is basically toxic masculinity but under a different name. The male psychology network has written a couple pieces about that. IIRC the woman who coined the term has since gone back and said she came up with it because she didn't understand me… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/05/22 04:06 PM |
| 5 | Do our men deserve better?I think this is where the left's rejection of evopsych comes from. I read some kind of red pill manifesto years ago that seemed to be heavily rooted in half truths about "biology" and "evolution". Like some of it was based in science but I would still question their conclusions and interpretations about that science. I would also question the relevance: like just because men are kind of evolved to "spread their seed" doesn't mean that men should adopt that as a philosophical strategy. Like it's … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/05/22 03:49 PM |
| 3 | Do our men deserve better?Would you agree that both are equally important? Like I'm at a loss of what you're even trying to say. The conclusions I'm talking about are things like toxic masculinity, the idea that we need to change masculinity, or that masculinity is harmful, or that masculinity is responsible for male social problems. Or more directly, the controversial points published by the APA in the OP that they have now redacted after 3 or 4 years of ridicule from the academic psychology community. The book I refere… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/05/22 03:17 PM |
| 5 | Do our men deserve better?Yeah I was never implying that a proper biological understanding would lead to diagnostic tools or overrule the opinions of individuals. I personally just find it kind of interesting. And I think the science helps legitimize trans rights in much the same way we used to discuss the science behind homosexuality. But all of that is secondary to treating people right. Like if it helps convince some anti-trans person about the validity of trans rights then great. But we obviously shouldn't base our t… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/05/22 01:37 PM |
| 3 | Do our men deserve better?I do like the evolutionary theory of cultural development. On that point we can probably never know for sure. Probably the most correct way to say this is that all available evidence and reasoning points to strong biological factors, but we're never going to know how much exactly. So for example height is known to be almost entirely mediated by biology, with about 70% coming directly from genetics (the rest being epigenetics, nutrition, and health). We know that personality has a similar genetic… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/05/22 01:00 PM |
| 5 | Do our men deserve better?The research on transgenderism (is that correct to say?) is definitely still out. We're seeing some pretty clear patterns though. And our best guess, borrowing from what we know about typical developmental biology research (and research into intersex individuals) is that it's related to hormones. You can give testosterone to a growing female sexed fetus (XX chromosomes) and it will develop into an infertile male. Likewise you can block testosterone during the development of a male (XY) sexed fet… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/05/22 12:27 PM |
| 3 | Do our men deserve better?Again it's axiomatic that all of these things are in play. But we do see these recurring patterns basically everywhere, and throughout all of history. And that generally pointe to, as I said originally, a strong biological component. Which is an interplay between genetics, epigenetics, nutrition, and things like that. Long before we get to "culture" and "socialization", which does still influence things. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/05/22 12:02 PM |
| 24 | YouTube’s algorithms recommending ‘incel’, ‘manosphere’ videosReference to "sigma males" (never seen that one before) I had to look this up because it sounded comical. But it's actually a reference to strong and independent men who don't need no woman. It probably comes from the pill ideologies so who knows what kind of baggage it has. But it's kind of ironic that they deem "strong and independent men breaking free from gender norms" to be offensive when we've been talking about this for women for literally decades now. It might be one of the most feminist… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/05/22 02:19 AM |
| 3 | Do our men deserve better?Well I might be misunderstanding you if that's the case. These studies look at broad ideas about gender like the idea that men are brave or that women socialize more than men. What might change is how bravery and socialization are manifested in a society, but their links with gender will usually remain constant. In a poorer country, socialization might involve dinner parties whereas in a wealthier nation it might involve social media usage. Or being brave might manifest as different types of tri… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/05/22 01:55 AM |
| 4 | Do our men deserve better?If you think something being a social construct means it has 0% basis in biology, you don't know what the definition of a social construct is. In this context we're talking about "men being brave" as something that's relatively rooted in biology and "men liking to jump out of off airplanes" as sometime that is a social construct. Like I understand what you're trying to say but I'd question if you really understand how that breaks down. For example, do you think the link between bravery and gende… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/05/22 01:16 AM |
| 5 | Do our men deserve better?If you don't think gender has anything to do with biology then you are engaging in science denialism. These theories were proposed decades ago and you learn about them in any basic psych 101 course. It's typically part of the curriculum explaining nature and nurture instead of nature vs nurture (the so-called blank slate theory). It's literally used as an example of applying this principle incorrectly, and probably shows up on quite a few exams. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/05/22 01:00 AM |
| 5 | Do our men deserve better?Well like almost everything in psychology, it's probably both. There's a ton of research showing that gender norms are fairly universal across countries and across time. Including very large studies that go beyond your typical "euro countries + Japan" type research. Babies reach for gender typical items starting around the time they're able to see and grab things. This is also constant across cultures and across time. If you want to see some of the research I'd recommend checking out the chapter… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/05/22 12:24 AM |
| 7 | Do our men deserve better?I think that's why they do it. If gender isn't real then being trans doesn't mean anything. Ironically a lot of research into transgender people reinforce the idea that gender is strongly biological. For example: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s13178-020-00489-z But there is also a group of LGBT supporters who, probably based on the idea that gender is nothing more than a social construct, think anyone can be trans. That it's just something fun people do because being queer is fun. Ba… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/05/22 11:20 PM |
| 1 | (29M) My spouse and I (29F) had a “surprise” pregnancy right before I’ve started the divorce process. I’d appreciate any adviceIt's the best you're going to get from the court if she doesn't agree to 50% parenting time. One takeaway is you can try to get her to agree to something without going to court. I have full custody because my fiance said she hates that he looks like me and didn't want him. I had papers drafted by my lawyer and in front of her the next Monday for her to sign away custody. Hopefully she's a bit more reasonable than that and will want something fair because she's a decent person. But that's usually… | /r/Divorce_Men | 19/05/22 10:11 PM |
| 35 | PrivilegeMostly women in management and HR... | /r/MensRights | 19/05/22 06:12 PM |
| 7 | Do our men deserve better?When I went through a big part of it was interest. Women wanted to become therapists and men wanted to become researchers. Men probably still make up most of formal academic psychology despite being unrepresented in terms of graduation numbers. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/05/22 05:37 PM |
| 16 | Do our men deserve better?The science denialism on the left over similar issues is also really disappointing. I grew up when part of the left / right divide was a trust or belief in science. So the harms of tobacco and the legitimacy of anthropogenic global warming were adopted by liberals and rejected by conservatives. But now it seems like a lot of liberals reject scientific research, and even seek to change / delegitimize certain areas of science. And psychology -- specifically evolutionary psychology -- has become a … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/05/22 05:33 PM |
| 8 | A Hopeful Reminder.I'm pretty sure toxic masculinity is just Bell Hook's version of patriarchal masculinity under a new name. Which like you said was pretty vague and used in a way to generally attack men for essentially being men. If you read some of her stuff she doesn't talk about the patriarchy as something that exists at the top of society (which is the way most radfems used to talk about the patriarchy). She instead talks about the patriarchy in terms of gender norms, which she blames on all men as a group. … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/05/22 01:42 PM |
| 5 | Is it true that men's advocacy/movement was initially leftist/socialist/soc-dem?I don't think it was quite that but you could easily see it as a rejection of the male gender role. People who criticize Buddhism often start there by basically implying that the Buddha was a deadbeat father or something. In the formalized philosophy, being involved with a family was seen as holding you back. For both men and women. I think there's a reason why more men get fed up with "the household life" and reject materialism than women though. And that's probably related to the burdensome na… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/05/22 10:12 AM |
| 9 | Is it true that men's advocacy/movement was initially leftist/socialist/soc-dem?There is some older stuff if you dig enough. I remember seeing a couple of things just on Wikipedia about writings from the 18th century that tangentially discussed gender norms and implied that men got the worse end of the deal. One was a woman who is kind of controversial in feminist circles. Because they can't agree if she counts as an "early feminist" or not (probably because of her opinions about who had things worse back then). Neither one talked about reform but one was written in the con… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/05/22 12:29 AM |
| 10 | Is it true that men's advocacy/movement was initially leftist/socialist/soc-dem?Ernest Belfort Bax was an early socialist and wrote about men's rights. This was back during the supposed era of male dominance over women that radical feminists religiously adhere to (pre voting rights and all that, although men couldn't vote back then either). He laid out the legal groundwork for gender based oppression against men in the UK, largely because of how marriage and divorce worked. It's called The Legal Subjection of Men if you want to look it up. Many early socialists saw labor ri… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/05/22 12:07 AM |
| 23 | Target getting ready for Father's DayTechnically Engels thought neighbors / extended family / friends should be more neighborly and help out more (ie work together). It's where the phrase "it takes a village" comes from. He argued that capitalism has broken down extended social structures to just the mother, father, and children. And that this wasn't healthy because humans naturally organize into larger groups than that. He didn't necessarily argue against the nuclear family in the way you probably assume though. He instead argued … | /r/MensRights | 18/05/22 09:37 PM |
| 7 | A feminist guide to moderating male spaces: their answer? Censorship. Censor like there’s no tomorrow and remind them of their place.The parents should have sued that school, and the teacher. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/05/22 06:29 PM |
| 7 | Relationship of gender differences in preferences to economic development and gender equalityThis study replicates findings from other studies that higher levels of gender equality and GDP lead to higher levels of gender differences in society. With the idea being that when people are free to make their own choices, they will gravitate towards biologically influenced gender differences, instead of socially influenced gender differences. In other words, traditional social conditioning appears to push men and women to be more similar, which goes against the social construct theory that so… | /r/Male_Studies | 18/05/22 05:43 PM |
| 25 | Feminists talking about 'male violence' sound like Republicans talking about 'inner city violence'There are multiple cases of feminist mothers subjecting their sons to actual child abuse. A couple of cases involved gendercide: they didn't want their son growing up to be in the patriarchy and rape women. So they kill them. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/05/22 01:13 AM |
| 8 | The Left's Hypocrisy on False AccusationsRadical feminism is patriarchy feminism. Liberal feminists and radical feminists have a history of disagreement about the merits of patriarchy theory. Look up Christina Hoff Sommers for example. Radical feminism is the main form of feminism that exists today. It's not the trans and sex work stuff that makes them radical. It's the belief that society is ran by men who oppress women that makes them radical. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/05/22 11:09 PM |
| 21 | The Left's Hypocrisy on False AccusationsThe left is very concerned about false accusations of murder, drug dealing, drug consumption and robbery. They insist on better due process protections for the accused, eliminating plea deals because too many innocents are trapped, eliminating cash bail because it locks up too many poor, innocent people. Many of these issues have both racial and gender components. With black men being the largest proportion of victims. It's relatively uncommon for women of any race to be falsely accused of a cri… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/05/22 01:16 PM |
| 8 | How do men propagate misandry?It stands out when women do it so it gets talked about it. When men do it it's normal and expected. Not doing it is selfish. So men have a higher bar to reach before their sacrifices get recognized. Making it invisible to most people. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/05/22 01:01 PM |
| 4 | Men DV orgsThe NCFM, CAFE and their men's center suborg (which runs Canada's only male dv center), men's aid Ireland... | /r/MensRights | 16/05/22 12:48 AM |
| 17 | Do you think women (in general) want men as much as men want women? Why?because they are less likely to put up with crap behaviour Couldn't it also be because they're less inclined to invest in relationships and try to work things out? This type of rhetoric ties the problem in a relationship with men. As if men are the ones with "crap behavior" and they're responsible for a woman leaving them. In my experience, men fight for their relationships more, and are way more likely to concede to their partner's demands than the reverse. You also see this in pop culture and … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/05/22 01:58 PM |
| 3 | "Weaponized incompetence" is just code for "men need to listen to women and do what they're told"That's honestly super cheap. Radfems like to calculate the "worth" of a wife who does chores by adding up cleaning services, daycare workers, etc. But I guarantee if you added up what a husband does by those same metrics you'd come up with a much larger number. Handymen and landscapers get paid way more than maids and babysitters do. Because one category of work is actually a lot more difficult than the other. | /r/MensRights | 15/05/22 01:41 PM |
| 8 | The "Respect Women" FallacyI think we need feminist allies. She's here in good faith and seems like she's on our side. Reforming the feminist movement to be less radical should be seen as a valid MRA strategy since feminism enjoyes institutional and societal privilege. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/05/22 03:41 PM |
| 5 | The "Respect Women" FallacyIt's patriarchy feminism that we need to get rid of. I'm aware that's like 90% of feminism but if we can frame it this way I think we'll get more support. Start calling their bluff on radical vs non radical feminism and then see what happens. Then step back and say it's not our fault that 90% of it is radical. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/05/22 03:39 PM |
| 14 | Why breadwinner role is seen as privilegeWhat we've done though is guarantee that women will always be provided for. That's what alimony, child support, and palimony does. We've removed the downside and kept the upside. And that is very oppressive from the male perspective. The man is treated like a financial slave before marriage, during marriage, and also after marriage. He can't escape except to not date or marry women at all. And then we even have a bachelor tax to extract resources for women from those men. Maybe we should get rid… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/05/22 03:32 PM |
| 23 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?There's research suggesting that men do express themselves, we just do it differently than women. For example men are less likely to cry but are more likely to express frustration. There's even relevance here when it comes to clinical psychology, which is where this research comes from. When in distress, women tend to want to talk about their feelings whereas men tend to want to fix whatever is causing the distress (Holloway et al. 2018). https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-030-04384… | /r/MensRights | 14/05/22 02:26 PM |
| 41 | "Weaponized incompetence" is just code for "men need to listen to women and do what they're told"My girlfriend has never picked up a drill, never took out the trash, never opened the hood of her car (she usually doesn't even drive), and has never mowed the lawn. I explaining how easy it is to drill a hole to hang something up. But she didn't care because she's never going to have to do that because it will always be my job. I'm not salty in real life I just don't get why the gender reversed topic gets so much attention. Like men somehow don't do enough around the house. I honestly wonder if… | /r/MensRights | 14/05/22 02:00 PM |
| 21 | The "Respect Women" FallacyI think it's important to remember that women have always been respected. We just respected men and women for different reasons. We respected women for having children, breastfeeding, having feminine insight, cooking, holding families together, etc. In the historical context women have always been highly respected for any number of different things. There's an old poem / song from Scotland that exemplifies the incompetent husband trope and implies that anything a man can do, including working in… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/05/22 01:39 PM |
| 24 | Why breadwinner role is seen as privilegeThe stay at home partner gets the benefits of having money and a career without having to work for it. If anything that is what power looks like: compelling another person to work for money for your benefit. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/05/22 01:31 PM |
| 17 | Women cannot be charged for rape in the UK only sexual assault which carries a lower sentenceThat carries a different minimum sentence. That's also the least common form of rape for men. Most men are forced to have non consensual vaginal sex which would therefore fall under the other law anyway. | /r/MensRights | 13/05/22 11:42 PM |
| 0 | Isn't it frustrating that people who are more likely to acknowledge issues that men face (including double standards) are anti-SJW/conservative types?I didn't feel like arguing with this guy but yeah it's not a conservative sub and I've never seen transphobia there. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/05/22 11:29 PM |
| 19 | Isn't it frustrating that people who are more likely to acknowledge issues that men face (including double standards) are anti-SJW/conservative types?A good socialist can talk about the contradiction between Marxist class theory and patriarchy theory. Check out r/StupIDPol for example. Any leftist who believes in the patriarchy needs to read this: https://marxistleftreview.org/articles/the-poverty-of-patriarchy-theory/ https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/dominique-karamazov-the-poverty-of-feminism | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/05/22 04:19 PM |
| 7 | Gay Hate Crimes - Men's Issues Chapter 8You can find a lot of racist liberals too (as well as conservatives who aren't racist, in part because of conservative / libertarian "egalitarian" principles that are actually pretty common on the right). The left has created an illusion of moral superiority that I don't think is as deserved as we think it is. At the very least it helps to hide these problems. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/05/22 05:06 PM |
| 28 | Paid Menstrual LeaveJust increase people's sick leave. Women can already take time off for menstrual problems. We have established mechanisms for this already. Contrary to that some feminists are trying to say, this is not some kind of conspiracy of the patriarchy to hold women back. I understand that PMS / PMDD are specific to women and I understand that not every country and workplace has adequate leave policies. So I'm not against calling this a women's issue and working to solve it. But I think we can do this i… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/05/22 04:36 PM |
| 6 | consequences, negative reinforcement for the common goodYes and it's still wrong. I do think critical theory is flawed for that reason. But we can talk about institutional and systemic discrimination being a bigger problem for some groups of people compared to others while still agreeing with what you said. What a lot of people miss is that men are one of these groups of people who suffer from systemic and institutional discrimination. So even if you disagree with all of that you can still call their bluff and discuss misandry in this framework. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/05/22 12:52 AM |
| -20 | Women will be offered three days 'menstrual leave' every month in Spain under plans set to be approved next weekRadical feminism is just the belief in the patriarchy: that men systematically oppress women and the solution is to "punch up" against the patriarchy. Only a minority of radical feminists are TERFS / SWERFS / etc. | /r/MensRights | 11/05/22 11:55 PM |
| 6 | consequences, negative reinforcement for the common goodThere are different types of discrimination. I think that aspect of critical theory is valid. However I disagree that this applies to gender in any kind of systemic way. White people do not, in general, experience the same type of racism that other groups do. That doesn't mean black people can't be racist or that white people can't experience racism. But it's really not comparable: being made fun of because you can't jump isn't comparable to losing out on employment opportunities due to your rac… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/05/22 11:36 PM |
| 3 | "In Washington State, when two parents have a child without getting married, custody defaults to the mother of the child automatically."I'm literally talking about being allowed to sign the birth certificate. That's not a legal hoop. The legal hoop is establishing a court date 2 years in the future and showing up with a lawyer to argue for rights that you should have had from the second your child was born, but didn't because you were an unmarried father. | /r/MensRights | 10/05/22 02:06 PM |
| -2 | Kevin Samuels, one of the leading figures in the Manosphere, recently passed away. His Men-centric content brought Men's issues to focus in mainstream social media. His presence will be sorely missed. RIP Kevin "Godfather" Samuels.I can see the original statement to be fairly logical (possibly even taken out of context by parent) but this is a bad take imo. There's a difference between a fact being a little inconvenient compared to divulging in this kind of speculation. If a woman is past 35 perhaps she just has a poor personality because she has statically been in several relationships and then ran off her partners. It's a red flag for an individual, not some kind of reflection on the moral fallings of society. I know ma… | /r/MensRights | 10/05/22 01:04 PM |
| 81 | Hollywood is making a "zany" comedy movie, that will "delight audiences worldwide" about the true story of a man bring kidnapped, chained up, and repeatedly raped. Not only is sexual assault against men not taken seriously, it's supposed to be funny and cheered for.Probably Disney. This sounds on point for them. | /r/MensRights | 10/05/22 12:58 PM |
| 3 | "In Washington State, when two parents have a child without getting married, custody defaults to the mother of the child automatically."Obviously to the father. The mother shouldn't have a right to keep him off the birth certificate. He shouldn't have to jump through legal hoops to be treated like an equal. | /r/MensRights | 10/05/22 12:51 PM |
| 8 | The reduction of the pro-life argument to "controlling women's bodies"Bodily autonomy rights also matter when you talk about labor. 90% of workplace fatalities and workplace related disabilities happen to men. And you better believe many of those men are working those jobs to keep current on their child support obligations. And this is ignoring the fact that circumcision is still a thing. How is a mother cutting her son's genitalia not an example of "controlling men's bodies?" | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/05/22 08:25 PM |
| 6 | Study: Sexually Unsuccessful Men Retaliate By Endorsing Anti-Egalitarian Attitudes and Becoming Fiscally ConservativeDo you have a link to any of this? Neither Marx nor Engles seemed opposed to the family unit or even to traditional gender norms. When Engles talked about women it was to tie them into the harm that capitalism creates because at the time they were relatively shielded from it: worker's rights issues affected workers, and women didn't work (at that time in large numbers... women did work quite a bit before the industrial revolution though, and I'm not sure if Engles knew that). This idea that we n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/22 06:49 PM |
| 8 | Roast me: feminist very upset about losing my right to abortion.I think I've seen one comment say that. Like can you link to something? I'm sorry if that's you're impression I just don't see it. I do think "equality for the privileged feels like oppression" is a valid point to make but only in the context of people who deny that men's issues are real and valid. There are a couple of those types of comments / posts, and maybe if you haven't been here long enough the context of saying that might be missed on you. But even those types of comments don't celebrat… | /r/MensRights | 06/05/22 11:20 PM |
| 14 | Roast me: feminist very upset about losing my right to abortion.I'm curious where you're seeing any of this. Most of the comments here agree with you. This just seems like concern trolling to me. Are you willing to change your opinion or are you fishing for a random person to say something you don't like to reinforce what you think about us? | /r/MensRights | 06/05/22 11:06 PM |
| 3 | Men are forced into parenthood all the timeThat's kind of what traditional gender roles and biology are. Men protect and take care of women. Which makes all these feminists a bunch of hypocrites when they start talking about ending gender norms. Like what gender norms are they talking about? The one that denies that men's issues are valid and need fixed? Can we talk about how they're reinforcing that gender norm by not campaigning for men's rights issues? | /r/MensRights | 06/05/22 10:26 PM |
| 3 | STBXW lost job.. may not be able to find work for a while.. how does that impact thingsI personally wouldn't trust a judge to impute her income. It's been shown that men receive less alimony and less child support than women in gender reversed scenarios. The courts shouldn't take gender into account but human nature gives more sympathy to women. Which means you have to have everything lined up for you perfectly if you want a chance at a fair rulling. And in this case that would mean having her get a job. | /r/Divorce_Men | 06/05/22 10:12 PM |
| 0 | Your religious freedom DOES NOT override consent and agency.Yep I believe there's a practical strategy that involves banning it for everyone except for religious purposes. We can't win everything but we can take small steps in the right direction. | /r/MensRights | 06/05/22 10:04 PM |
| 9 | Men are forced into parenthood all the timeThe same can be said about child support as well. Society seems interested in fixing women's issues but not men's. | /r/MensRights | 06/05/22 09:58 PM |
| 6 | “The APA has changed its written view of masculinity” (Will they finally make genuine positive efforts for men’s issues?)Most psychologists were pretty unanimous in condemning those guidelines, both officially and unofficially. They go against very basic academic principles that are pretty universal to the science. So despite their institutional status and prestige, I don't think they can carry this out indefinitely. New textbooks are telling students to ignore the APA guidelines so it's slowly eroding their influence in the field. | /r/MensRights | 06/05/22 09:21 PM |
| 9 | The APA has changed its view of masculinity — The Centre for Male PsychologyThe APA is quietly adjusting their stance on masculinity and male psychology. It is not perfect and they do not have new guidelines, just a new mission statement. We'll have to wait to see how much ends up changing going forward. | /r/MalePsychology | 06/05/22 09:19 PM |
| 12 | Men are forced into parenthood all the timeWhat about men who are raped? Should they be forced to pay child support? Men as young as 12 years old have been raped by adult women and were then compelled to pay child support as minors. Shouldn't a rape victim be allowed to sign away their rights to a child? What if it's consensual but they're still too young to take on their parental responsibilities? Sometimes not taking care of a child is best for everyone who's involved. Not everyone is a good parent and not everyone is ready to become a… | /r/MensRights | 06/05/22 08:54 PM |
| 15 | Men are forced into parenthood all the timeA lot of women are very flippant about this. Not too long ago a girl at work was on teams talking about how she wanted to get pregnant to get time off from work. My own ex got pregnant because the relationship was breaking down and she thought having a child in the picture would change things. I'm sorry that things are rough for you and I'm glad that you're the responsible type. But like OP mentioned, you see these arguments about how children lead to poverty and prevent women from going to coll… | /r/MensRights | 06/05/22 08:48 PM |
| 10 | Germany: Woman sentenced after sabotaging partner's condomsThere's a question about this in the FamilyLaw sub right now. I answered that it depends because not everywhere even recognizes that men can be raped. My understanding is that it's still illegal just about everywhere though, even if it's not technically rape. Even in places where rape doesn't apply to men, raping a man is still usually some sort of crime (though it doesn't always have the same legal severity). | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/05/22 03:16 PM |
| 32 | Germany: Woman sentenced after sabotaging partner's condomsAnother example where men and women should be allies... Why are they opposed to that kind of thing? What's wrong with men and women fighting together for equal rights for everyone? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/05/22 03:14 PM |
| 23 | Germany: Woman sentenced after sabotaging partner's condomsThat rule sounds kind of interesting. I think it's meant to imply that discussions should be positive sounding. Which is difficult when we're talking about sexism and discrimination -- it's only natural that some people will be upset because their rights as human beings are violated. I agree though that the discussion looked pretty positive. It also seems super relevant with roe v wade being a topic. For example, should men have to pay child support if they're raped? What about coercion, etc? Me… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/05/22 03:12 PM |
| 4 | Experiences of Physical and Psychological Violence Against Male Victims in Canada: A Qualitative StudyYou see side notes like that in a lot of research. It's really frustrating. I read one paper that spent time arguing that their findings are in line with feminism because it questions traditional gender norms (something to that effect anyway). It's strange how feminists try to play up the women as victims / men as perpetrator angle but then they also talk about how seeing women as docile is sexist. They just flip flop depending on which "version" happens to be convenient to them at any given tim… | /r/Male_Studies | 06/05/22 02:18 PM |
| 5 | Mainstream Media Reporting on Johnny Depp TrialThis is my impression as well. You also had the temperance movement back then, which was seen partially as a women's movement and was popular with suffragettes (in fact the right to vote for women was tied to a vote to abolish alcohol, which was thought to corrupt men and harm women). The word feminism actually means something closer to female supremacy than we give it credit for. And that's how English speakers used the word (borrowed from French) for a really long time. This idea kind of skipp… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/05/22 01:19 PM |
| 7 | Mainstream Media Reporting on Johnny Depp TrialThe first wave was the suffragette movement and the second wave was women's liberation or the women's movement. This was during the civil rights era in the US and it was mainly about legislative equality and gender roles (getting women into the workplace). | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/05/22 01:06 PM |
| 21 | Mainstream Media Reporting on Johnny Depp TrialTechnically first and second wave feminism was not called feminism at the time. The word feminism became popular with the advent of radical feminism during the third wave (known as patriarchy theory). It tried to appropriate the history and suffering of black people for middle class white women. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/05/22 01:00 PM |
| 6 | Proposal: replace "legal paternal surrender" with "deemed donor option"This has actually happened before. Ironically I think one of the protections is what we used for abortion rights: the right to privacy. If your identity is ever found out you can be sued for child support. At least in some jurisdictions. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/05/22 11:58 PM |
| 10 | Proposal: replace "legal paternal surrender" with "deemed donor option"Legal maternal surrender is already a thing so that's probably why the discussion is about paternal surrender. It's still a good point though. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/05/22 11:56 PM |
| 6 | On Risk-TakingGiven the fact that gender is largely based on sex / biology (being modulated through sex hormones), how exactly do you propose that we do this? And is your solution even ethical? Gender is pretty universal across time and across culture. It is no more a choice for someone to be masculine or feminine than it is for them to be gay, straight, or trans. And yes even transgenderism has recognized biological causes that largely cement the idea that masculinity and feminity are innate characteristics … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/05/22 03:31 AM |
| 1 | Suggestions for organizations that support both women and mens rights to choose?The NCFM supports reproductive rights for men and for women. They have brought court cases on this exact topic and almost succeeded except the plaintiff decided to withdraw just before it made it to the supreme court. https://ncfm.org/lead-with-us/why-donate/ | /r/MensRights | 05/05/22 03:18 AM |
| 1 | Suggestions for organizations that support both women and mens rights to choose?What about the NCFM? They've actually filled lawsuits about this in the past. One almost made it to the supreme court. It was dubbed roe v wade for men. | /r/MensRights | 05/05/22 03:14 AM |
| 15 | On Risk-TakingMale risk taking is one of the cornerstones of modern civilization. Consider the debate about showing emotions for example. If everyone just cried and complained and nagged whenever things didn't go right, then nothing would ever get done. We need people in society who have mastery over their emotions to be able to do things that other people can't. Obviously there are two sides to this but I think people are quick to deny that men and masculinity are useful. And this stifles important conversat… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/05/22 02:45 AM |
| 1 | I believe that Weaponized Incompetence existsI never thought to save it. This was forever ago. I did try searching for some of the words that I remembered her using but it's not coming up. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/05/22 01:45 AM |
| 6 | If you're going to be Pro-Choice, be Pro-Choice for both parentsWell ask yourself this: what happens if the child comes up missing one day because you dropped it off anonymously? The mom never consented so, ignoring the ethical problem, she's at least going to call the police. If they never find the child they might just point their fingers at you with no evidence. And if you confess, wouldn't they just go get the child, give it to the mom, and then order you to pay child support? I honestly don't know the answer to that. My guess is that safe haven laws kic… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/05/22 01:24 AM |
| 1 | Moving to another countryThere's this thing called imputed income which is used to prevent exactly this type of thing. Even if you lose your job legitimately and can't find a new one the court will still impose that on you. Moving to a new legal jurisdiction may allow you to effectively avoid paying though. Sometimes crossing territories within the same country will get you a little bit of a break as well. To be clear you will be breaking the law though. A traffic stop might even alert the police that you have an arrest… | /r/Divorce_Men | 05/05/22 01:06 AM |
| 18 | If you're going to be Pro-Choice, be Pro-Choice for both parentsThat's not always true. Lots of times you have to be the only person on the birth certificate. So it starts with the mother refusing to add the father and then exercising those rights against his will. In most cases the mother would have to die soon after childbirth, leaving the father as the only parent, to theoretically give the father that option. I think it would be interesting to see what would happen in a jurisdiction where a man could get away with that though. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/05/22 12:56 AM |
| 3 | If you're going to be Pro-Choice, be Pro-Choice for both parentsAt 9 months I don't think they're killing the child. It will probably go into an icu or out for adoption. I also highly doubt very many people wait that long. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/05/22 12:54 AM |
| 15 | I believe that Weaponized Incompetence existsYeah the stereotype used to be that women did this way more than men. We would even talk about learned helplessness as a byproduct of it. In the ppd sub there was a famous comment where a girl admitted to pretending to be weaker than what she was to get guys to do things for her. She said it was super easy because she was an attractive blond and she did it all the time. She also said she'd use sex to get things out of men and that it was completely normal for her to just manipulate people left a… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/05/22 12:50 AM |
| 15 | “Mass shootings caused by 'masculinity,' says report commissioned by Nova Scotia inquiry”It's related to gender because we don't treat men right. If we treated men better then there would be fewer men committing crimes. | /r/MensRights | 04/05/22 10:12 PM |
| 11 | “Mass shootings caused by 'masculinity,' says report commissioned by Nova Scotia inquiry”There's so much victim blaming here. Criminality is caused by social problems that leave people with no other choice than to commit crime. If you try to starve someone they will eventually try to take your food or beat you up for it. Mass shootings might not be linked to social disadvantages in any kind of obvious way, but here they are talking about how rural unemployment and poverty levels are linked to it. Indicating that we need to give these people jobs and a future if we want the shootings… | /r/MensRights | 04/05/22 10:09 PM |
| 2 | i saw this post in r/autism asking if they should feel ashamed for being a maleThis research is still being expanded on. I saw a couple studies published within the last year or two that made really strong connections between autism and early testosteron levels. It might be a bit reductionist to say that autism is just a form of hypermasculinity but it is clearly related to sex hormones and gender. | /r/MensRights | 04/05/22 09:58 PM |
| 2 | [Request] I need papers about discrimination about males in the incarceration and justice system (males are convicted more often, sentences are harsher, and also longer)There are a bunch of sources here: https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/g50qou/court_bias_and_legal_discrimination_against_men/ | /r/MensRights | 04/05/22 09:46 PM |
| 5 | "Legal Paternal Surrender" vs. "Paper/Financial Abortion"It's an extension of reproductive rights for men. What we're saying is that women should have these rights, and it's great that they already do, but men should have these rights too At most you might see pro lifers who think gender equality is more important than abortion rights, so having neither for men or for women is better than only having rights for women but not for men. | /r/MensRights | 04/05/22 06:02 PM |
| 6 | "Legal Paternal Surrender" vs. "Paper/Financial Abortion"I think we have a big opportunity here to do this. https://strathprints.strath.ac.uk/33179/ The tldr is that roe v wade was flawed from the beginning but there are other strategies out there to guarantee abortion rights. And most of them also necessitate reproductive equality for men. In the past this has been a stumbling block because pro choicers didn't want to include men. But now they might have to. | /r/MensRights | 04/05/22 05:56 PM |
| 8 | Now is the time to strike!I do think long term we might get something out of this. Roe v Wade was a flawed ruling and we've known this for decades. But there are other legal strategies that should work to guarantee abortion rights. And those strategies also necessitate equality for men as well, which we didn't have under Roe v Wade. See for example: https://strathprints.strath.ac.uk/33179/ If you want a good talking point, it's useful to point out that pro choice advocates have ignored these strategies because it would g… | /r/MensRights | 04/05/22 05:52 PM |
| 9 | Now is the time to strike!We need to remind people that there is a movement addressing these things, and it's not feminism. In fact don't even talk about feminism. Talk about the men's movement instead. | /r/MensRights | 04/05/22 05:50 PM |
| 3 | A question about the current debate of ROE v. WADE in the Supreme CourtI imagine more men die on the job every year than women do in pregnancy. | /r/MensRights | 04/05/22 12:48 PM |
| 3 | In the wave of Roe vs. Wade stuff there is a post on twoxchromozones about getting mad at men that are allies but aren't doing enough for women's rights. Hypocrits much?Thanks for clarifying. We get a good number of people trying to fish to twist our words around, as I'm sure you know :) Paternal surrender is all about the man's choice to become a father. A woman can still make her choice independently. | /r/MensRights | 04/05/22 12:37 PM |
| 3 | No one cares about "My body, my choice" when it comes to being drafted to die at 18 years old.The sc draft document talks about euthanasia ("assisted suicide" if you want to look it up). It's been legal in the past in some places but there's a precedent on that topic that's relevant to abortion and Roe v. Wade. | /r/MensRights | 04/05/22 12:49 AM |
| 2 | New Policy Document Released by A Voice for Men - Permanent Bodily Modification.I feel like there's room to allow gender transitions in minors but the science isn't completely in on that topic yet. Especially when older children / teenagers are sometimes considered to be "adults of sound mind" and are allowed to consent to many of these things (often with parental approval of course). I can respect the logic and consistency of their position on this though. | /r/MensRights | 04/05/22 12:40 AM |
| 6 | In the wave of Roe vs. Wade stuff there is a post on twoxchromozones about getting mad at men that are allies but aren't doing enough for women's rights. Hypocrits much?I love how people come in here trying to fish for one of us to say something like "women shouldn't have rights" but instead it's obvious everyone is saying "women should have rights and men should too". The above poster was obviously excited about the prospect that I was saying the former instead of the later. u/BritneyDraws maybe you should consider that your opposition to men's rights is based on false information. | /r/MensRights | 04/05/22 12:32 AM |
| 7 | an article on why men shouldn't be able to financially abort : spoiler it would make it hard on women!!I have no idea what those words mean and I imagine this is a stupid / leading question anyway. If you're pro life then just agree to disagree. Don't beat around the bush like that. It doesn't look good. | /r/MensRights | 03/05/22 09:07 PM |
| 23 | Help me understandI think a lot of people here want that. We're just pointing out the obvious hypocrisy. One thing that's come to light is that in order for women to have abortion rights men need to have equivalent rights. Like according to published legal theory on this topic -- Roe v. Wade was flawed in part because men were written out of it. And feminists who fought to treat men like second class citizens on this issue are part of the reason women no longer have this right guaranteed to them. | /r/MensRights | 03/05/22 09:02 PM |
| 23 | In the wave of Roe vs. Wade stuff there is a post on twoxchromozones about getting mad at men that are allies but aren't doing enough for women's rights. Hypocrits much?Part of the reason Roe v Wade was overturned (tentatively anyway) is because it does not give equal rights to men. The supreme court draft cheekly implies that women already have more rights and more political power than men. And this is one of the reasons that the equal protection clause does not apply to this case. Moreover, legal scholars have known for decades that Roe v Wade was a flawed ruling and that it would get overturned if they never addressed that. This paper from 2005 argues that g… | /r/MensRights | 03/05/22 08:54 PM |
| 10 | an article on why men shouldn't be able to financially abort : spoiler it would make it hard on women!!The best arguments to support abortion rights do so in a gender neutral manner that also apply to men who don't want to become fathers. One of the flaws of Roe v Wade is that it was unconstitutionally gendered. A non gendered version that gave men equal rights would have stood up better. And the leaked supreme court decision even implies this several times. | /r/MensRights | 03/05/22 08:41 PM |
| 7 | an article on why men shouldn't be able to financially abort : spoiler it would make it hard on women!!Men very often cannot use safe haven laws and the recent leak from the supreme court even acknowledges this as a counter argument to the idea that abortion has anything to do with gender equality. | /r/MensRights | 03/05/22 08:37 PM |
| 10 | an article on why men shouldn't be able to financially abort : spoiler it would make it hard on women!!In the leaked decision, safe haven laws for women were cited as a factor by the supreme court justices. Americans who believe that abortion should be restricted press countervailing arguments about modern developments. They note that attitudes about the pregnancy of unmarried women have changed drastically; that federal and state laws ban discrimination on the basis of pregnancy, that leave for pregnancy andchildbirth are now guaranteed by law in many cases, that the costsof medical care asso- c… | /r/MensRights | 03/05/22 08:33 PM |
| 18 | "What about the women??" Feminists mad that Johnny Depp case may challenge #BelieveWomen (I hope it does)Most people think Jonny Depp did this knowing he'd lose but also knowing that he'd get his story out. He's recently been hired for a couple of movies and is regaining sponsors. Meanwhile they've tried to remove Amber Heard from as much of Aquaman as they can (the movie is already shot so they're literally editing her out of the movie as best as they can). However at this point the case is also looking surprisingly well for him. Disney has admitted that the op-ed Amber wrote was about Depp, even … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/05/22 08:22 PM |
| 3 | Roe v WadeI made a post about this in a different subreddit: https://np.reddit.com/r/FeminismUncensored/comments/uhgkfk/the_consent_model_of_pregnancy_would_resist_legal/ I'll probably repost this over here in the next couple of days. But basically the argument is that consent to sex is not consent to parenthood. The reason is many people engage in sex for recreational purposes, and most people use contraception. So most people who have sex do not expect pregnancy to result from it. The specific type of c… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/05/22 07:19 PM |
| 3 | I need to vent about the abortion thing. Men haven't had abortive rights this entire time, but NOW everyone panics?Because women have legal power over men. | /r/MensRights | 03/05/22 05:17 PM |
| 13 | I need to vent about the abortion thing. Men haven't had abortive rights this entire time, but NOW everyone panics?Yep there are fathers who have had to adopt their own children after the wife put them up for adoption. And they cannot apply for child support from the mother. It's such a big problem that many states have passed laws giving fathers preferencial adoption status because sometimes the father's children are adopted by different people altogether. But yeah it's men who are deadbeats for literally wanting nothing more than statutory equality. | /r/MensRights | 03/05/22 05:16 PM |
| 23 | Roe v Wademy biggest pet peeve surrounding the justifiable rage over the imminent overturning of Roe v Wade is that feminists are misplacing the blame over why this is happening on Men and not on Evangelical Christians. According to Pew 56% of Men agree that Abortion should be legal in all or most cases and that the only group that really has a strong opposition to Abortion are White Evangelical Christians of which 77% believe Abortion should be illegal in all or most cases. Fewer women support abortion r… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/05/22 02:45 PM |
| 2 | Roe v Wade likely overturnedI read a legal paper the other day about one of these alternative strategies that was only "flawed" because it would give men a right to walk away as well. It's called the Consent Model of Pregnancy by Mary Ford. https://strathprints.strath.ac.uk/33179/ The author tentatively argues in favor of male abortions but quotes literature that suggests giving men the same rights as women was a stumbling block for adopting this strategy. | /r/MensRights | 03/05/22 01:10 PM |
| 1 | Roe v Wade likely overturnedDenmark and a few Nordic countries have considered it but it's never made it into law (yet). | /r/MensRights | 03/05/22 01:04 PM |
| 5 | why are men more likely to be homeless?I've never seen a homeless man that didn't ask for help. People literally call them "beggars". You don't see those people because they're not in your face. Most beggars are not homeless and most homeless people do not beg. This isn't because of shame or anything it's because they have adapted to being homeless and don't rely on random handouts from people. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/05/22 12:54 PM |
| 6 | why are men more likely to be homeless?I haven't seen much that looks at etiology. The only thing I'd guess at besides what everyone else has mentioned is that men are discriminated against in housing. Meaning men have a harder time getting loans (everything considered equal), men have a harder time getting apartments (everything considered equal), and men have a harder time getting roommates as well as moving in with other people (everything considered equal). In some places the gender bias is larger than the racial bias. And minori… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/05/22 12:52 PM |
| 12 | Roe v WadeIt makes it a lot harder to argue for choice for men. I doubt it will lead to a large ban in abortions because the states still control that. Even Texas still kept it at 6 weeks. Which obviously isn't enough time for everyone but it proves there's no political will to ban it outright. However like you said people will exaggerate this to no end. On the other hand, abortion proponentes might adopt different legal strategies for women that may have more relevance for men. Roe v. Wade is based on a … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/05/22 12:42 PM |
| 4 | 'Gender corrective mechanism' had the reverse effect.It might violate human rights treaties if they've signed any. | /r/MensRights | 03/05/22 12:53 AM |
| 8 | Just found out men get 63% higher prison sentences 😦This could be a title ix case for u/MRA_TitleIX. Assuming I understand how that's supposed to work. | /r/MensRights | 02/05/22 08:59 PM |
| 3 | The feminist myth of "Thousands of years of oppression" completely debunked in a new book - article in the GuardianThis is a very "eurocentric" (or Abrahamic) view. Many religions show men and women to be in harmony and balance with each other. For example Taoism bases the concept of yin and yang on this. Yahweh being a man has definitely influenced the group of religions that worship him though. And yes he is explicitly male and there's archeological evidence to support that he has always been seen as male. He even used to have a wife. They got rid of her when they switched from worshipping multiple gods to… | /r/MensRights | 02/05/22 08:14 PM |
| 6 | The feminist myth of "Thousands of years of oppression" completely debunked in a new book - article in the GuardianMy understanding is that burial sites with female hunters are relatively rare, but they make huge media splashes when they're found. Thus creating a false rhetoric of "old ideas being overturned by new evidence". Of course the conclusion of the book doesn't need that to be true. And it's probably still relevant to point out that women could hunt when it was necessary, even if it wasn't commonplace. But I imagine the guardian exaggerated that and probably misrepresented the book. If you want to s… | /r/MensRights | 02/05/22 08:10 PM |
| 1 | Applying best practice to men's human rights. My new project for bureaucratic activism. Want to help?We clearly do not, as indicated by existing research on this topic You keep implying that men are privileged and women are not. That is false so your assumption is false. Men are already an oppressed group of people who literally have fewer legal rights than women. And we do not currently have an in-group bias. This provides a real world test for a situation that you deem to only be hypothetical. And the result is obviously counter to your prediction. You could even argue that the position of me… | /r/MensRights | 02/05/22 08:00 PM |
| 2 | Does anyone know what the USA version of this UK chart would look like? Can’t seem to find any definite info online besides the obvious.You can find suffrage data by US state / territory. Almost every state formed after 1860 or so had universal suffrage for men and women. Those states were less populous but I imagine you could make a graph based on known population numbers crossed with suffrage on a state by state basis. By 1920 a majority of states had suffrage but fewer of the East Coast states had it so by population it was likely less than half of women at the time. Of course before then civil war you'd be looking at less th… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/05/22 07:37 PM |
| 8 | PSA: Community survival planningAlso, when this sub gets banned Can't we be a little optimistic and say if instead of when? I know it sounds pedantic but I think being cautiously optimistic is a better strategy than being defeatist. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/05/22 07:30 PM |
| 6 | I am pessimistic about the Depp and Heard caseI feel like Depp has already won in the eyes of most people. It's just the media that won't get on board. I don't know a single person IRL who sides with Heard and everywhere on social media people are backing Depp. Many people are saying even if he loses he's already made his point by making all of this stuff about Heard public. | /r/MensRights | 29/04/22 06:45 PM |
| 3 | Child Custody Mediation happening in a few days. Any tips?I'm partial to a two week schedule. Less time spent dropping off and picking up kids. | /r/Divorce_Men | 29/04/22 05:41 PM |
| 13 | What Can We Do About Information Warfare?I was just thinking we need to better advertise this sub, and probably the men's movement in general. I watched one of these Johnny Depp discussions develop on r/videos and I saw a lot of comments to the effect of "this is what's wrong with feminism" but very little along the lines of "this is why we need a men's movement" or "check out this great sub where people are trying to fix this". I'm not saying that feminists and mras have to be opposed to each other, or that anti-feminism can be exploi… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/04/22 03:13 PM |
| 6 | Millions of men admit they are not okay - and rate mental health just six out of 10I think he's pointing out the existence of this harmful social view and not actually advocating that it's a good thing (he probably dropped the /s at the end of his comment). | /r/MensRights | 29/04/22 02:32 PM |
| 2 | Millions of men admit they are not okay - and rate mental health just six out of 10The only arguable bad actor the men's movement has had was actually kicked out of several men's groups they were part of. I forget his name but he actually shot another men's activists (long after he was kicked out), I think to advance his own law firm so men would be forced to come to him or something. Meanwhile feminists hire child rapists and domestic abusers, including women who publicly call on other women to kill their husbands, and who have done jail time for killing their own husbands. I… | /r/MensRights | 29/04/22 02:27 PM |
| 1 | Applying best practice to men's human rights. My new project for bureaucratic activism. Want to help?These biases are likely biological due to the difference in investment to produce sperm and eggs. It's not just modern society and it's not just human society. You literally see some of this stuff in the animal kingdom. One identified mechanism is called the halo effect, which is medicated through neoteny. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoteny_in_humans Neoteny is the tendency for women to look and behave more like children than adult men. Which elicits … | /r/MensRights | 29/04/22 02:15 PM |
| 5 | Moral Dilemmas in Hospitals: Which Shooting Victim Should Be Saved?Someone should write a letter to the journal asking how this got past their peer-review process. | /r/Male_Studies | 29/04/22 12:45 PM |
| 10 | Canadian Court of appeal ruled in favor of a woman based on a law that does not exist.These types of topics are rarely found in constitutions anywhere in the world. Even the US Constitution doesn't make it a crime. Crimes are established by legal codes. And it's your legal code that has to be constitutional. It's kind of like creating laws to govern the legality of laws. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/04/22 12:20 AM |
| 2 | Is toxic masculinity the modern equivalent of female hysteria?Yeah he said something like he's there more than he's here and that we can post things from his insta if we want. I actually tried one time but I'm not very good with Reddit's image slider thing. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/04/22 08:08 PM |
| 9 | Is toxic masculinity the modern equivalent of female hysteria?Masculinity is to a large degree intrinsic and many of the things people refer to as toxic masculinity can actually be very productive and useful. Like sure you shouldn't hold in your emotions but is that really any worse to being an emotional, nagging wreck? Is competition a bad thing when it advances society? Is adventure a bad thing when it leads to exploration and new discoveries? Is risk a bad thing when it leads to success? Furthermore, there's research showing that these things are good f… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/04/22 05:35 PM |
| 16 | Is toxic masculinity the modern equivalent of female hysteria?There's a theory that "hysteria" may have sometimes been Premenstrual Dysphoric Disorder or PMDD, which is a recognized medical condition that leads to many symptoms in women that people would call hysteria. And one of the treatments of PMDD is literally getting off. In fact most women with regular PMS will tell you that having sex helps with the symptoms. So this masturbation as a treatment thing may have just been their best guess at the time based on women presenting with "hysteria" around th… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/04/22 05:22 PM |
| 43 | Interesting Conversation At Work TodayA lot of people are very open to this conversation and will agree with 90% of men's rights issues and talking points. Feminism online has done a really good job propagandizing against men's issues but anyone with half a brain knows that these problems are valid and would like to see them fixed. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/04/22 11:09 PM |
| 20 | Acceptance of “mutual abuse” in regards to male domestic abuse victimsThis is actually one of the very first findings that we discovered when we started formally studying domestic abuse. This is also what Erin Pizzey noticed when she opened the world's first domestic violence shelter for women, and then tried to open one for men after seeing how common this was. Suzanne Steinmetz, a feminist btw, called this the battered husband syndrome. The idea is that a lot of men put up with abuse for a very long time because they're conditioned to not fight back or report it… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/04/22 10:25 PM |
| 7 | Men's rights are valid because they are human rights: Ukraine's treatment of men is in violation of the ICCPR, an international human rights treaty that they signed in 1973Many people wanted to stay and fight and many Ukrainians living abroad, men and women, did come back to fight. I therefore believe that Ukraine would have had plenty of people to defend their county without arbitrarily discriminating against men. And for the record I think Ukraine has done a really inspirational job at fending off Russian aggression. But you should not have a right to force somebody else to fight on your behalf. In fact I believe Article 1 talks about self-determination without … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/04/22 05:40 PM |
| 6 | To correctly frame gender issues we must step out of the Historicist mindsetHow are men and women not "reset" at every birth? This isn't like what we have with race and geographic / economic stratification. Men and women occupy all of the same locations in society and have done so for basically all of history. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/04/22 12:25 AM |
| 4 | Thoughts on conscriptionThere's a famous book written by some kind of ex politician / political theorist that called it an apartheid. Like in the title of the book itself. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/04/22 06:56 PM |
| 6 | Thoughts on conscriptionYeah that seems to be a pretty big issue. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/04/22 05:54 PM |
| 8 | Thoughts on conscriptionIn real life it will just be ignored. Ukraine is doing that right now. As is the US (most likely anyway, I haven't researched this). In theory they're in violation of a human rights treaty they signed decades ago but I've seen very little effort to try and hold them accountable. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/04/22 05:43 PM |
| 13 | Thoughts on conscriptionInternational courts have decided that involuntary conscription is a human rights violation. Specifically through the mechanism of "conscientious objectors". It's considered an issue of religious freedom (where religion legally can mean your personal thoughts and convictions). So if you're a conscientious objector and you get drafted you in theory have some sort of avenue to sue the state under existing human rights treaties that your country is likely a part of. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/04/22 05:39 PM |
| 1 | Does patriarchy exist today?Boys were preferred because by law they have to work to earn money to pay their parents in retirement. Such a law does not exist for women. It's an example of discriminatory policies against men backfiring against women. | /r/MensRights | 26/04/22 05:25 PM |
| 1 | Does patriarchy exist today?Yes that one :) It's still a patriarchy but that doesn't mean that women don't have power. Which is probably the first mistakes that radfems make. | /r/MensRights | 26/04/22 05:23 PM |
| 1 | Decreasing child support to fulfill my parental obligationsCheck out these resources: https://www.sharedparenting.org/chapters https://ncfm.org/lead-with-us/chapters https://www.mi211.org/ Maybe try one of the legal advice subs also, although prepare to find some assholes there. Granted these people aren't too bad: /r/FamilyLaw/ | /r/MensRights | 25/04/22 10:15 PM |
| 3 | Does patriarchy exist today?I vaguely remember seeing a rough draft about this in my inbox a couple years ago. I'm glad you finished it. Those look really nice. | /r/MensRights | 25/04/22 10:03 PM |
| 9 | Does patriarchy exist today?A literal patriarchy did used to exist in many places and actually still does in some places. Like for example the royal family. That type of patriarchy is not the same thing that radfems talk about though. They hijacked and appropriated the term. | /r/MensRights | 25/04/22 09:58 PM |
| 8 | "I wanted my son to reject masculine stereotypes. Then he fell in love with tractors"The crazy thing is toy preference is strongly gendered across time and across cultures. And I mean truly global with huge studies to back this up, not just the usual Anglo countries + Japan type of research. As soon as children can start grabbing things they will grab for gender typical items. Granted to the extent that individuals might deviate, they could actually be more likely to be trans... I wouldn't start transitioning that young but I do wonder if there's been any research on this. What'… | /r/MensRights | 25/04/22 09:04 PM |
| 39 | Sinfest: A perfect case study as to how "Radical Feminism" and "Far Right Propaganda" are both two sides of the same coin (more commentary in the "comments")Basically, sure, the patriarchy exists - as long as you're prepared to examine why it doesn't unilaterally benefit men for anything they do. I'd suggest that you need to hold them to higher standards than that. The patriarchy exists only if you acknowledge that sexism and discrimination against men is just as relevant and important as sexism against women and you acknowledge that women are equally culpable of enforcing this system and equally need to change and be better. Because there are some … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/04/22 08:44 PM |
| 50 | Sinfest: A perfect case study as to how "Radical Feminism" and "Far Right Propaganda" are both two sides of the same coin (more commentary in the "comments")Patriarchy theory is the left's version of a crazy conspiracy theory, and radical feminists (radical meaning they believe in the patriarchy) are our version of the conservative anti-government tin foil hat trope | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/04/22 06:59 PM |
| 14 | Are women more critical or less critical of other women?Female juries are less likely to believe rape allegations, surprisingly enough. https://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/rape-study-shows-female-dominated-juries-dont-convict-58929.html This is anecdotal but I remember seeing a lot more skepticism and cynicism towards certain #MeToo cases from women back when that was a big thing. I think men probably #BelieveWomen more than other women do. My theory is that women are more likely to understand the kind of manipulation and abuse that other women eng… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/04/22 06:50 PM |
| 19 | This feminist thinks masculinity is about violence and oppression of women.Token resistance is what gets me the most. Of course I want to be respectful and seek consent but my girlfriend loves it when I rough up her clothes and get on top of her. And asking for permission at every step is the opposite of romantic. I've been with her long enough to have established boundaries and know if she's in the mood. She does communicate "no and I'm serious" if she wants to. But I personally don't like it even if we do have an understanding about it. Like can't you throw in a "giv… | /r/MensRights | 25/04/22 01:21 PM |
| 6 | My first child is going to be born in a couple months... but, how/when/should I get a DNA test?I'm pretty sure you can have the results emailed to you. You can pick up a test kit at a pharmacy also. It's really easy to do yourself in private. The hardest part would be justifying the charges. If you pay by card and she's invading your privacy by going through your card statements then those charges will raise questions. You might want to make sure that you don't use your store membership also in case that gets associated with your account and pops up in the future. Note that a lot of these… | /r/MensRights | 25/04/22 12:44 PM |
| 8 | Anybody else excited about Elon Musk buying Twitter?Twitter is set up to encouraged divisiveness and bullying. When you only have 280 characters to say something, it's much easier to say "you're an idiot" than it is to make a respectful and thought out argument. Their algorithm also gives you material that they think will upset you to encourage exactly that type of engagement on the platform. So the culture is all about insulting people and making witty comebacks. Feminists love it because that's all they really want to do. They don't care about … | /r/MensRights | 25/04/22 12:18 PM |
| 1 | Modified ERAIs this with or without the Hayden rider amendment being tacked on? I imagine section two is so they can justify having gender segregated bathrooms. It's literally "separate but equal" being encoded into law. I also don't really see segregated bathrooms as being that important. Coed facilities might actually be a good thing for gender equality in the long run. I think some women are afraid that men will see them differently if we smell their poop. Which is kind of an admission that women know th… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/04/22 07:48 PM |
| 6 | Psychopathic traits, delinquency, positively predicts future dating involvement [study]Sources please? The paper itself actually cites some of the previous research. I don't think that is what longitudinal means. Yes, the implied causation is stronger than with cross-sectional study but not as strong as with controlled experiment and very far from "proven". I am not an expert though and I may be wrong. I can give you that but it's definitely not as big of a problem with this type of research. Psychopathy could correlate with another variable (for example delinquency) which then le… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/04/22 07:30 PM |
| 12 | Psychopathic traits, delinquency, positively predicts future dating involvement [study]One study does not imply a scientific wisdom - remember the replication crisis. This finding has been replicated over and over again. It's hardly news at this point. What this study did was drill into why this might be. Is it because psychopathic males ignore rules and boundaries, especially sexual boundaries? Is it because psychopathy is more attractive? Is it because attractive males become psychopathic? Is it because psychopathic males have less stable relationships, causing them to go throug… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/04/22 12:25 PM |
| 3 | #MeToo failed Johnny Depp and proves that the woke movement is nothing but digital chivalryThis is according to who, exactly? Amber Heard? The things Depp is claiming she did to him have evidence to corroborate it. Like medical bills from the emergency room, recorded phone conversations of her admitting to hitting him, and eye witness testimonies including police testimonies and an ongoing criminal investigation into a false police report that she tried to file with two of her friends. So what evidence do her claims have? I legitimately want to know because I don't want to make statem… | /r/MensRights | 23/04/22 12:43 PM |
| 11 | “Sex for money is coercion.”Tradesman run into this a lot. Some people even claim it's a kink to have sex with a guy for favors. Like it turns them on or something. They'll wait till a guy is done working on their house and then demand sex in lue of payment. These guys have wives and children and are trying to pay bills, not bone some lonely divorced housewife who can't figure out how to operate a hammer or turn on a lawnmower... | /r/MensRights | 23/04/22 12:31 PM |
| 4 | #MeToo failed Johnny Depp and proves that the woke movement is nothing but digital chivalryWas this before or after she stabbed him? Was it before or after she had gaslight and abused him for multiple years in a row? Context is important. | /r/MensRights | 23/04/22 12:25 PM |
| 7 | Applying best practice to men's human rights. My new project for bureaucratic activism. Want to help?Someone quoted something from the UN to me within the past month or so that stood out. It was either about genital mutilation or maybe the court bias. But either way it was plain as day that every major Western country was in blatant violation of it. I'll try to find that for you if I can. I do think it's a good idea though. Especially if it's published here with information about why the treatment of men in society violates these charters and principles. It would be useful to discuss with peopl… | /r/MensRights | 23/04/22 02:25 AM |
| 2 | #MeToo failed Johnny Depp and proves that the woke movement is nothing but digital chivalryDoesn't even matter if you're right, you approached the problem from the assumption that they were sincere, and that is where you failed. If they're not sincere then they get outed as hypocrites. And while it might already be obvious to you that they're hypocrites, I do think it helps drive the point home for people who might be on the fence and get to watch them stumbling around against their own words. | /r/MensRights | 23/04/22 02:06 AM |
| 30 | most of the mental health services in Canada our geard towards women and yet people our surprised men and boys kill them selvs.Look up the male psychology network and Rob Whitley (who actually lives in Canada). It's a new field of study with a growing list of researchers. It's definitely ivory tower at this point but there have been a lot of inroads made recently. For example CAFE runs a collection of men's centers in Canada that provide mental health services for men. There's at least one in every province and I think there are some online services that they offer as well. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/04/22 09:03 PM |
| 15 | #MeToo failed Johnny Depp and proves that the woke movement is nothing but digital chivalryI'm not going to get into that with you. Mainly because I work with drug and alcohol rehabilitation centers and have met a lot of drug users in person. Yes drug users sometimes make bad decisions but they are victims of a society that too often leaves them behind. This is a bad take and I guarantee you will not find support for it in the academic literature or among professionals who work in this field. It honestly sounds like something a radical feminist would say, and mirrors the arguments tha… | /r/MensRights | 22/04/22 07:58 PM |
| 18 | #MeToo failed Johnny Depp and proves that the woke movement is nothing but digital chivalryYou keep bringing up substance abuse like that's the end all be all to your argument. And that court case did not find him guilty. They found Heard innocent of libel, which is a much harder standard to prove. There was also evidence that he wasn't allowed to make public in that case because of an existing criminal case against Heard that the police were trying to bring forward. When Heard called the police, they showed up to her residence, couldn't find Depp anywhere, and instead saw three giggl… | /r/MensRights | 22/04/22 07:39 PM |
| 18 | #MeToo failed Johnny Depp and proves that the woke movement is nothing but digital chivalrySorry it was a plate she broke that she stabbed him with. I'll look at your links I just don't think two wrongs automatically make a right. Domestic abuse can take you to some pretty dark places. I almost considered suicide and it took me a really long time to recover. That's not to excuse him if he did some of those things but I think it's obvious she pushed him there and was the instigator of everything. The fact that she put him in the hospital and the best that she could do was put on fake m… | /r/MensRights | 22/04/22 07:25 PM |
| 19 | #MeToo failed Johnny Depp and proves that the woke movement is nothing but digital chivalryI had an ex try to get me to hit her. Try to get me to yell. Try to make me angry and upset enough to do something back. She knocked me to the ground and said I wasn't a real man because I refused to fight back. That a real man would have hit her and defended himself. I'm sure a lot of men have experienced this. | /r/MensRights | 22/04/22 07:16 PM |
| 13 | #MeToo failed Johnny Depp and proves that the woke movement is nothing but digital chivalryPoint taken. I'm just trying to get people to listen. Because sometimes they only care if it can be linked back to harming women somehow. Also it is still the case that there's two sides of this. Even if the male side is obviously worse. And I don't have a problem admitting that. | /r/MensRights | 22/04/22 07:14 PM |
| 29 | #MeToo failed Johnny Depp and proves that the woke movement is nothing but digital chivalryNone of that was in the phonecall. And I'd have to see the context. If he's "joking" with friends in the hospital after she stabbed him with a knife then we're talking about something completely different. Your new take also does not deny that she was the one who got physical. Verbal abuse is still a problem and it very often is mutual. But the level of abuse demonstrated by Heard for which we have physical evidence and even hospital bills for puts the two of them in completely different categor… | /r/MensRights | 22/04/22 07:01 PM |
| 37 | #MeToo failed Johnny Depp and proves that the woke movement is nothing but digital chivalryI listened to the tape where he supposedly admits to "fighting" her, which everyone thinks implies physical violence. She was gaslighting him. Their fights were "mutual" because "they" had issues "together". I had an abusive ex who used the exact same language and it is clearly manipulative. Our fights were her yelling and screaming and thrusting her chest out to knock me over. But there was nothing mutual when it came to personal culpability. She was the one yelling. She was the one losing her … | /r/MensRights | 22/04/22 06:55 PM |
| 1 | Men’s Experiences of the Criminal Justice System Following Female Perpetrated Intimate Partner ViolenceAlmost everything on Springer is like that. There have been quite a few things I've wanted to submit but couldn't because it's paywalled. There are a lot of options to access things on Springer though. I think a lot of libraries have subscriptions, and you can usually join your local library for free. | /r/Male_Studies | 22/04/22 05:43 PM |
| 23 | [BBC] Fertility crisis: Is modern life making men infertile?A lot of people would say that we have too many humans on this planet already, so what's the big deal? And I generally agree with that sentiment. But I do see another issue, which is that this could be a red flag for other health problems. So it's important to understand what's happening and try to fix it. Even if you don't care so much about sperm count or fertility directly. We see this with women's health quite a bit. It's rare that fertility issues are the only thing that's wrong with you. E… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/04/22 05:37 PM |
| 2 | Tennessee passes bill requiring drunk drivers to pay child support if they kill a parentI'm talking about in comparison to having a safety net in society. Many drunk drivers are alcoholics and need help. I'm not saying that to justify driving drunk but having 18 years of additional financial stresses won't help get them clean. Instead we need to expand programs that require offenders to blow under the limit before their car will start (in exchange for a reduced or waved prison sentence, at least if nobody got hurt). There's been a lot of success with this type of program. Which is … | /r/MensRights | 22/04/22 04:28 PM |
| 15 | Tennessee passes bill requiring drunk drivers to pay child support if they kill a parentIt seems odd that legislation moves in the direction of punishing people instead of helping people. You even see this with regular child support. The mother wants to punish the father more than she actually cares about her children. There are cases where it turns into putting him in prison for non-payment instead of letting him get his finances together to make future payments. If we just had a good safety net that would cover childhood poverty, we could get rid of child support altogether. That… | /r/MensRights | 22/04/22 03:33 PM |
| 24 | The real side of the Depp/Heard case. Hundreds of men are sharing their stories of their personal abuse.I remember listening to those audio tapes when they first came out. Some of the words and even the way she said things reminded me so much of my ex. If she had said "I'll kill myself if you leave me" then that would have been her. I think a lot of guys have seen Amber Heard's behavior and know women who act like her. Most women are great people who would never want to hurt their boyfriend (just like most men are the other way around) but this kind of thing is a lot more common than people realiz… | /r/MensRights | 22/04/22 02:19 PM |
| 1 | Some sources on the role and importance of fathers in child psychology and well-beingI have a master's degree in psychology so I can follow stuff like this pretty well. I'm not at the level of some of these people but I definitely appreciate the work that they're doing. This book is available for "free" through Springer Link and probably through other related services that Springer contracts with. So if you're in school or are lucky enough to have access through work then you might be able to get a copy. You might be able to ask the author for a pdf copy as well. I don't know wh… | /r/MensRights | 22/04/22 02:07 PM |
| 8 | HeightTaller people get promotions faster. There's a sub this, r/heightism. I'm surprised it's not any more active than it is given the number of people who bring up height in random discussions around Reddit. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/04/22 02:37 AM |
| 3 | Would you like to become a Dad? Press "no" to abort.As I set out to start my first company, I met so many men telling me something along the lines of: "Wow! It's so great you are starting your own business. I always wanted to, but was too scared. Now I'm a dad and I just can't take the risk anymore." This is 100% true but it's also not a bad thing. Settling down has it's risks but it can be a lot of fun, too. Before you know it they'll be heading off to school and you'll be reflecting on how lucky you are. Maybe you never started that fortune 500… | /r/MenSupportMen | 21/04/22 08:21 PM |
| 12 | The idea that all should be equal is called humanism. Not feminism. Humanism is concerned with the rights of all, feminism only with the rights of some. When protection of rights of only half of humanity, is accepted as the full concept of equality, the rights of half of humanity exist nowhere.Most MRAs are not masculinists. The men's rights movement is actually better than that. To characterize us a "feminist movement for men" (aka masculinism) is to degrade what it's about. | /r/MensRights | 21/04/22 04:42 PM |
| 12 | people dont care about mens mental healthThe mental health industry definitely caters to women and we've had female specific mental health research for decades. That's not to say that women have everything easy here but men definitely have things worse. There's actually something called an empathy gap at play where people literally just care more about women than men, as like an ingrained psychological bias. And this spills over into the mental health industry. | /r/MensRights | 21/04/22 04:27 PM |
| 9 | people dont care about mens mental healthThere are games you can play to stay in an apartment or even a house you don't own. It's sometimes called squatting. To do it you need mail in your name delivered to that address. So a water bill or a package or something like that. That piece of mail establishes residency. Once you have residency a landlord needs a formal eviction notice from a judge to kick you out. It takes time to do that and even after you get the notice you typically have 30 days from the time you receive the notice before… | /r/MensRights | 21/04/22 04:24 PM |
| 19 | Soft power is much more relevant than hard power, and women are the ones who have the most power in society under this metric, not menWe even joke about this head is household stuff in society. Like who's "really" in charge and all that. Sometimes it's in a demeaning way towards men, like to put a man in his place and recognize who's really in charge at home. Honestly what woman anywhere believes that her husband is in charge? Or for that matter, what man believes that? The only thing we really have is the convention about last names, and this miss vs misses stuff. But anecdotally it seems like a lot women derive a certain amo… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/04/22 03:16 PM |
| 43 | Soft power is much more relevant than hard power, and women are the ones who have the most power in society under this metric, not menHistory is really just full of this stuff. This African Queen Yaa Asantewaa put out a decree that no woman was to have sex with a man unless he joined her army and went to war with her. Now it was a war of self-defense against British colonists so I guess it's not as bad as what you had in Sparta. But if you read about the context, the men in this kingdom had already fought in a couple of very long wars, so they were basically done with it. The British had also offered them a pretty good deal th… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/04/22 02:35 PM |
| 14 | Soft power is much more relevant than hard power, and women are the ones who have the most power in society under this metric, not mena lot of the women used helots as essentially sex slaves when the men were off killing Athenians or Persians or whoever else they decided needed to die each spring That sounds interesting if you ever find a source for it. Apparently there were female helots and slaves as well so I'm guessing the gender divide written about by Greek contemporaries applied mainly to Spartan citizens. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/04/22 02:26 PM |
| 45 | Soft power is much more relevant than hard power, and women are the ones who have the most power in society under this metric, not menIn ancient Sparta there was a semi-formal women's league that held enormous influence over society, including the king himself (after all he did have a mother and a wife). They would convince the state -- their sons and husbands -- to go to war in order to bring back riches to them. Because of the way Sparta was set up, women ended up owning most of the land and wealth in society. In part because of the high male death rate. Women were also generally not expected to work. Historians and philosop… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/04/22 02:06 PM |
| 8 | The idea that all should be equal is called humanism. Not feminism. Humanism is concerned with the rights of all, feminism only with the rights of some. When protection of rights of only half of humanity, is accepted as the full concept of equality, the rights of half of humanity exist nowhere.If I had to guess, humanism might be more along the lines of "fairness" (with what "fair" means being up to debate) whereas egalitarianism might be more along the lines of liberty or equality (where "fairness" has been defined to mean those things). Egalitarianism might therefore be a subset of humanism, or a strategy that humanists would employ in their philosophy. | /r/MensRights | 21/04/22 01:03 PM |
| 77 | Soft power is much more relevant than hard power, and women are the ones who have the most power in society under this metric, not menIf we want women to have more hard power in public then they need to give up soft power in private. We've had plenty of discussion about ceding hard power to women but very little about ceding soft power to men. And this may actually be the stumbling block right now. For example women will never get ahead in the workplace if courts consistently give them custody over children. That places an extra burden on women and also incentives men to work harder and earn more money to make child support pa… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/04/22 12:58 PM |
| 1 | Subsidizing Single Moms Is Not A Substitute For FathersThe 2005 study was criticized for manipulating the data to come to the conclusion that they wanted to come to. Subsequent research has failed to replicate their findings. But this one study, despite being debunked over and over again, is one of the reasons people seem to think gender has nothing to do with biology. If you've ever heard that individual differences are greater than intragroup differences, that's where that came from. And it is patently false. Here is the 2018 study: Ellis, L. (201… | /r/MensRights | 21/04/22 01:18 AM |
| 1 | Subsidizing Single Moms Is Not A Substitute For FathersIn other words you have preconceived notions on this topic and you're committed to remain closed minded. It's ironic that earlier you were talking about which position was outdated but now you're criticizing this author for... not giving an older study the benefit of the doubt because they couldn't have been aware of newer research on this topic? C'mon think about what you're writing. The fact that 2005 work comes to one concussion whereas newer work from 2017 and 2018 comes to a different concl… | /r/MensRights | 21/04/22 12:25 AM |
| 1 | Subsidizing Single Moms Is Not A Substitute For FathersI didn't say half of any of that... Name one aspect of gender that has been constant between cultures over the past 2000 years. Are you sure you read any of this? [I]t is of course plausible that researchers are influenced by their own preconceptions about gender stereotypes to the degree that this impacts how they interpret their findings. This criticism applies to researchers whether they appear to focus on gender differences (alpha bias) or gender similarities (beta bias). For example, the wo… | /r/MensRights | 20/04/22 09:10 PM |
| 1 | Subsidizing Single Moms Is Not A Substitute For FathersRegarding your views on “modern psychology” and masculinity, you’re probably not aware of this but the research you seem to be referring to is now decades old and often superseded. How about this university level textbook from 2021? https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-030-86320-3 Or this publication from 2019? https://malepsychology.org.uk/2019/03/19/the-provider-role-indicates-that-masculinity-is-prosocial/ What you're talking about is actually what's old-fashioned nowadays. The APA ki… | /r/MensRights | 20/04/22 08:54 PM |
| 31 | excuse me twitch, whats with the double standard!There's been a lot of attention given to ai biases that are either racist or "sexist" (meaning misogynistic) but nothing on misandry. I think if we're going to make a big deal over that kind of stuff from ai algorithms then it's entirely consistent to apply this to misandry as well. | /r/MensRights | 20/04/22 07:35 PM |
| 1 | Subsidizing Single Moms Is Not A Substitute For FathersFor the record, though, I agree. I just don’t think these figures necessarily need to be fathers or even men. Yes absolutely. The idea that fathers are “naturally” better disciplinarians is complete nonsense. Maybe not "better" but I think necessary (or at least beneficial) is closer to the point. There are discipline styles unique to both types of "parents" and both are likely necessary. For example: "Developmental psychologists assert that fathers are more important for the development of soci… | /r/MensRights | 20/04/22 07:16 PM |
| 2 | Subsidizing Single Moms Is Not A Substitute For FathersI agree with everything you're saying. Universal free childcare is something that I've advocated for in the past. Both for single moms and single fathers. In fact I think it would have an even greater effect on single fathers because of how often they work full time compared to mothers. The statement about father figures being important doesn't come from that study though. If you want there is a whole bunch of research here that you can look at pertaining to that: https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRi… | /r/MensRights | 20/04/22 06:22 PM |
| 3 | Subsidizing Single Moms Is Not A Substitute For Fathershttps://doi.org/10.1186/s12963-015-0038-0 | /r/MensRights | 20/04/22 04:52 PM |
| 3 | Subsidizing Single Moms Is Not A Substitute For FathersResearch indicates that having a step dad is a pretty good substitute. This is more important for boys than for girls though. Due mainly to the fact that girls still have teachers who are mainly women and other caregivers like daycare workers who are often women in their lives from an early age. A male figure is still important though even for girls. There's research about this that I posted elsewhere in the comments. Actually part of one of the studies I quoted from looked at single mothers wit… | /r/MensRights | 20/04/22 04:41 PM |
| 14 | Subsidizing Single Moms Is Not A Substitute For FathersThe whole socioeconomic angle is bullshit for a couple of reasons. If a father works and struggles to keep his children out of poverty, especially when a single mother refuses to do that (and instead expects child support, which can't replace having a career) then I think he deserves credit for putting in that hard work for his children. Moreover, studies that do look at socioeconomic status and try to control for other variables still find that single mothers fall behind. Including even behind … | /r/MensRights | 20/04/22 12:47 PM |
| 3 | "Male privilege" and "toxic masculinity" were identified as perpetuating harmful stereotypes about men in a recent psychology book published by SpringerHe's a psychology professor in Canada. He writes a lot for psychology today: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/contributors/rob-whitley-phd And he has some kind of project to create informative videos about mental health, some of which is about male mental health. There's a bunch of these videos on YouTube here: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLKGu0ZIrR7ZymJPx0-1zT8he_WZrVaAXN | /r/MensRights | 19/04/22 05:29 PM |
| 4 | A survey to study gender bias?van Breen, J. A., Spears, R., Kuppens, T., & de Lemus, S. (2018). Subliminal gender stereotypes: Who can resist?. Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin, 44(12), 1648-1663. https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Jolien_Van_Breen/publication/325263802_Subliminal_Gender_Stereotypes_Who_Can_Resist/links/5b1e39ed0f7e9b68b42c35f4/Subliminal-Gender-Stereotypes-Who-Can-Resist.pdf | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/04/22 04:10 PM |
| 9 | A survey to study gender bias?I actually can't find where I saw that. Here's the study about parents, which I imagine you probably already have: https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2019-46241-001 There is a small but growing collection of research about gender norm enforcement in general. Including this one about men basically not caring about gender norms as much as women do. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251639801_Men_among_men_do_not_take_norm_enforcement_seriously And then there's the concept of maternal gatekeepin… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/04/22 04:08 PM |
| 3 | Has anyone ever heard about the Roman Empress Agrippina, her husband Claudius, and her son Nero?I think it's important to point out that hard power and patriarchal structures aren't the only relevant aspects of society that need to be looked at, either today or in history. People talk about the apex fallacy as a shortcoming of the logic found in patriarchy theory but I think the premise is flawed as well: Male patriarchs did not have as much power as everyone thinks they did. Instead they were often beholden to their wives who, by comparison, got to sit back with relative ease and comfort … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/04/22 02:29 PM |
| 37 | A survey to study gender bias?There is actually research about this. One study found that people are more willing to sacrifice a man's life for someone else's life than if they had to sacrifice a woman's life. Women have a higher inclination to see things this way, indicating a greater traditional gender bias among women than men. Another study found that self-identified feminists were more biased than average as well, indicating that a lot of feminists work to preserve these gender roles and actually believe in them themsel… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/04/22 12:49 PM |
| 4 | Fundamentalist feminism and ChristianityCommunism strait up comes from the new testament of the Bible. Jesus and the apostles preached communism. Early Christians created their own communes based on these teachings. There's an entire book of the bible that serves as like a model for how the church is supposed to operate and it involves things like wealth redistribution and an elimination of private property. All that stuff about money being the root of all evil and a rich man not being able to get into heaven aren't just one off quote… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/04/22 11:41 AM |
| 78 | Women’s Scholarships And Awards Eliminated To Be Fair To MenThese feminists have such a negative view about women. They don't think women are as smart and capable as men and therefore believe that unfair treatment is the only way a woman can get ahead in life. I for one respect women and do not believe that they need special treatment in order to succeed in life. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/04/22 11:38 AM |
| 1 | Men are missing out on lucrative tax benefits due to courtroom bias. If your child lives with you 49% of the year you cannot claim any tax benefits, and the other parent gets all the benefits. Why does being a non-custodial parent have to be a zero-sum game?They ignore that the father needs (and wants) to be able to pay for his children, and that's what this is ultimately about. Those tax credits translate to shoes and food for his children. | /r/MensRights | 19/04/22 02:31 AM |
| 20 | "Male privilege" and "toxic masculinity" were identified as perpetuating harmful stereotypes about men in a recent psychology book published by SpringerThe basic premise of toxic masculinity relies on there being aspects of masculinity that are problematic and need to change. And from a psychology standpoint, that is just not a healthy way to approach things. It's known as a "deficit approach" and it basically amounts to victim blaming. Instead of talking about what's wrong with men, we need to work on accepting men for who they are, including all of their flaws and issues. And a necessary part of that includes reforming society to better accom… | /r/MensRights | 19/04/22 12:59 AM |
| 13 | Fathers are the only true debtors prison in the USDo you know what slavery is? Men are more than just wage earners. It's time we started being better than this. Give him 50% custody and make the mom go get a job now that she's freed up. If she is not willing to earn enough money for the two of them, give the parent who is willing to do that full custody of the child. Because unlike the mom, that means he actually loves the child. Unlike the mom, he's not using the child as a bargaining chip to steal money from another person. | /r/MensRights | 19/04/22 12:28 AM |
| 2 | What do you think of the book "Invisible women" by Caroline Criado Perez?The psychology researcher Nicola Graham-Kevan has written something similar in her work. She says that men have an inclination to avoid harming their sexual partners because doing so would have a negative impact on the survival of their children. She talks about this in an interview here: https://www.centreformalepsychology.com/male-psychology-magazine-listings/you-cant-reduce-domestic-abuse-by-telling-people-that-life-is-a-power-struggle-between-men-and-women-interview-with-professor-nicola-gra… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/04/22 08:23 PM |
| 5 | Deaths of despair: cause-specific mortality and socioeconomic inequalities in cause-specific mortality among young men in ScotlandFrom the abstract: Background Increasing mortality among men from drugs, alcohol and suicides is a growing public health concern in many countries. Collectively known as “deaths of despair”, they are seen to stem from unprecedented economic pressures and a breakdown in social support structures. Conclusions Contrary to the substantial reductions in mortality across all ages in the past decades, deaths among young men are increasing from preventable causes. Attempts to reduce external causes of m… | /r/Male_Studies | 18/04/22 03:22 PM |
| 2 | What do you think of the book "Invisible women" by Caroline Criado Perez?This was the case with the claim that men leave their sick spouse more often then women I've been looking for research about this for literally years. I remember seeing one comment in this sub debunking this a really long time ago but I could never find it again. My own thought was that even if it was true, there might be gendered differences in marital stresses that are worse for men than for women. Like if men get sick but don't complain as much, they won't put as much of an emotional burden o… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/04/22 02:43 PM |
| 7 | What do you think of the book "Invisible women" by Caroline Criado Perez?Doctors also spend more time with female patients and order more medical tests for them. The only indicator that has ever gone the other way is dispensing pain medicine in hospitals. It's claimed that women are less likely to be given pain medicine or are given smaller doses. But when you compare it against pain charts, doctors do in fact give everyone the same doses, as is protocol. Women actually just complain more on average so men get more pain medicine for less complaining, which some resea… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/04/22 12:20 PM |
| 4 | Feminism approved male issuesThis is from 1997 but here is a feminist arguing in an academic feminist grievance journal against patriarchy theory: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/09612029700200146 There's a summary I wrote about the paper here: https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comments/oup51x/the_feminist_challenge_to_socialist_history_why/ In many ways you are right. That's basically what 3rd and 4th wave feminism has done to the movement. But I think it's useful to know this. Especially if you wa… | /r/MensRights | 18/04/22 02:29 AM |
| 9 | Feminism approved male issuesYeah that's kind of the point. You can play by their rules and still get to the same conclusion. Literally the dictionary definition of radical feminism is believing that men systematically oppress women, for example through a patriarchy. Making all of modern day feminism radical (well minus people like Sommers). | /r/MensRights | 18/04/22 02:09 AM |
| 11 | I am not necessarily being serious here…but WTFNot unusual tbh. I've never seen it that bad but you'll find many women's restrooms to be bigger and nicer than men's restrooms. They also usually have baby changing stations which a lot of men are suing for in their restrooms now. | /r/MensRights | 18/04/22 02:02 AM |
| 14 | Feminism approved male issuesThey don't even propose solutions. They just say it's actually misogyny because men assume women are supposed to take care of children. And then that's all they'll talk about. They just want to make it about women and hide the fact that men suffer from institutional discrimination. You can even agree with them on the child care gender role things (I mean they're not 100% wrong) but they still won't propose any solutions. Meanwhile we have a solution over here: pass legislation to protect a fathe… | /r/MensRights | 18/04/22 01:50 AM |
| 4 | Feminism approved male issuesLook up Christina Hoff Sommers. Or even Warren Farrell. They exist but they're definitely fringe. It's funny when feminists try to deflect criticism by saying there's radical feminism and then "good" feminism because the legitimately good feminists are often accused of not being real feminists by the rest of them. So you can tell them (or strongly imply to them) that there are in fact good feminists out there, they're just not one of them. | /r/MensRights | 18/04/22 01:45 AM |
| 23 | Feminism approved male issuesWell there was that one mother who murdered her two sons because she didn't want them to grow up to be part of the patriarchy and rape women. Then there was that guy on men's lib who thought women raping men counteracted the patriarchy. Meanwhile he was going after male minors in his DMs / mod mail. | /r/MensRights | 18/04/22 01:38 AM |
| 20 | People from r/IncelTears are posting screenshots of posts on this subredditWatch out for stalkers. You can report those people to the Reddit admin. I've gotten two or three people's accounts banned over the years because they kept harassing me in literally every sub I went to. Reddit does a surprisingly good job about this despite the usual bias against us that we see from them. | /r/MensRights | 18/04/22 01:25 AM |
| 2 | Men say “I love you” before women do: Robust across several countriesThanks for the links. I'll be honest this is what the article on psypost said. I just assumed it was in the paper. The problem of science journalism is pretty well known but you still don't expect it from certain outlets. | /r/Male_Studies | 18/04/22 01:04 AM |
| 7 | Drug addiction and alcoholism - Men's Issues Chapter 4Much like homelessness, there are considerable efforts to help women, and to even see women as the bigger victims, despite the facts clearly showing otherwise. People abuse drugs primarily for three reasons: Escapism Copping with pain and stress Self-medication These are often related. Many people would be surprised to hear that most drug users are not trying to get high. For example, opioid and heroin users are about three times as likely to cite "chronic pain" and "health problems" as their mo… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/04/22 12:48 AM |
| 7 | How feminists make arguments rooted in far-right bigotryIt kind of looks like it was gendered if you read into it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arlie_Russell_Hochschild The same person who coined the term has also talked about the gendered nature of housework. She appears kind of blind to what men do around the house (or at least Wikipedia paints her that way) which is ironic given her philosophy about trying to understand people. But her work in both areas, per Wikipedia, is overall on point for the feminist interpretation. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/04/22 06:53 AM |
| 7 | How feminists make arguments rooted in far-right bigotryOP is making larger claims about the similarities of two Ideologies They are both chivalric and traditionalist. This is especially true from the 3rd wave on (2nd wave feminism may have been progressive for the most part). https://www.wokefather.com/egalitarianism/the-embrace-of-new-traditionalists-and-feminists-female-privilege/ The only real difference between conservatism and feminism when it comes to gender is that conservatives preach respect for men and women whereas feminists do not think … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/04/22 06:20 AM |
| 14 | How feminists make arguments rooted in far-right bigotrythe vigilance for safety from feminism against violence from men, and the vigilance for safety from the right wing against immigrants are very different from each other In what way? They both stem from stereotypes, fear, and prejudice, do they not? Many in both camps also contextualize their fears and prejudices through a fairly similar conspiratory framework, right? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/04/22 05:58 AM |
| 17 | How feminists make arguments rooted in far-right bigotryIt's not just a meme it's a pretty common talking point. It's literally one of the responses to #NotAllMen. "Not all men but enough to justify what we're saying." How many feminists do you think you can find who will admit that it's a sexist argument? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/04/22 01:13 AM |
| 2 | Did I miss a memo somewhere? Apparently men are no longer allowed to have sexual boundaries.Way to twist "some" into "all". I think it's obvious to everyone that you're being dishonest in this conversation. It doesn't look good and I would recommend that you don't dig this hole any deeper for yourself. | /r/MensRights | 17/04/22 01:03 AM |
| -1 | Dr Rick Bradford 2017 blog post "UK Prisoners by Sex: The MoJ [Ministry of Justice] Report". MoJ report: “Under similar criminal circumstances the odds of imprisonment for males were 88% higher than for females”. Dr Bradford summarises results concluding there's a huge gender-bias in imprisonment.There's a double standard in the media as well. When white people do it they say they '"found" it but when black people do it they say they looted or stole it. White people catch many of the same breaks in society that women do. That's why you have all these white female Karens who think they're untouchable and in charge of everything. Because, for the most part, they actually are. A black man by contrast will get arrested for going on a jog in the wrong neighborhood. | /r/MensRights | 16/04/22 11:54 AM |
| 17 | My thoughts on teaching students about incelsDo you understand how bullying works? (Male) virgins already get bullied in school and bullies have already jumped on the woke bandwagon. Associating virgins / incels with misogyny just adds fuel to the problem. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/04/22 11:41 AM |
| 7 | Did I miss a memo somewhere? Apparently men are no longer allowed to have sexual boundaries.Some women do this. Do you not think men should have a right to protect themselves when that happens? What about an underage rape victim? The CDC tracks statistics about this. It's not a small number. I don't know what my ex-fiance was trying to plan but she quit taking her birth control without telling me. If a guy does something like this it's considered rape but if a girl does it there's nothing you can do about it. | /r/MensRights | 16/04/22 11:32 AM |
| 37 | Did I miss a memo somewhere? Apparently men are no longer allowed to have sexual boundaries.She can't force him to. Just like he can't force her to not use a condom. There is the option of not having sex in there. | /r/MensRights | 16/04/22 12:47 AM |
| 14 | Mexico implementing fleet of women-only intercity busses.I imagine if you pulled out statistics you'd find more men being assaulted on buses than women. This is the gendered version of creating all white buses because white people are afraid of minorities. | /r/MensRights | 16/04/22 12:43 AM |
| 36 | Did I miss a memo somewhere? Apparently men are no longer allowed to have sexual boundaries.That's not what he said. Read it again. | /r/MensRights | 16/04/22 12:36 AM |
| 30 | Did I miss a memo somewhere? Apparently men are no longer allowed to have sexual boundaries.This was my first thought but if you pay attention to what he said this isn't his angle. What he said is that you have a choice not to have sex with her just like she has a choice to not have sex with you. If her boundary is to use condoms and your boundary is to not use condoms, then you're just not compatible. | /r/MensRights | 16/04/22 12:34 AM |
| 61 | Did I miss a memo somewhere? Apparently men are no longer allowed to have sexual boundaries.How does it take you six months to find that out though? | /r/MensRights | 16/04/22 12:32 AM |
| 2 | Victims of violence - Men's Issues Chapter 3This extends to the military as well. Ukraine is a recent example of this. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/04/22 12:25 AM |
| 18 | r/bropillMan bros don't say stuff like that. Bros lift each other up. How can you call yourself a bro and be so negative and critical? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/04/22 08:26 PM |
| 2 | "Weaponized incompetence" is just code for "men need to listen to women and do what they're told"The specific thesis that "individual differences are greater than group differences" is what I was talking about. Like I said though I think a big part of it comes down to perspective. There's one study about personality that found that group differences were larger than individual differences. But if you actually look at it, they mainly found that in 2 out of 7 metrics that they looked at (to be clear the 7 metrics are an established personality paradigm independent of the study). I'm not sure … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/04/22 05:26 PM |
| 2 | "Weaponized incompetence" is just code for "men need to listen to women and do what they're told"I don't know if there is such a thing as a "differences model". People just disagree with the interpretation that men and women are virtually identical. And that is largely because the facts and evidence do not support that. Recent research into transgenderism has even fallen back on this. We've found that brain scans can predict transgenderism based on whether or not someone's brain scan matches what is typical for a given gender (trans men have male typical brain structures and vice versa). At… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/04/22 05:10 PM |
| 39 | r/bropillRadical feminism is the belief that men systematically oppress women, for example through a patriarchy. It's not just TERFS that believe that. Most modern day intersectional feminism falls under that as well. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/04/22 04:51 PM |
| 27 | r/bropillI think I'm shadow banned there. I personally really liked the sub when it was newer but I think it's gone downhill over time. I'm not sure what the power dynamic is with the different moderators, but just like everywhere else, there are radfem mods who have infiltrated the power structure of the sub and are not afraid to flex their muscles and punch down against people with minority opinions. It's definitely gotten worse over time as, I assume, more feminist mods have come on board and gotten c… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/04/22 04:21 PM |
| 1 | "Weaponized incompetence" is just code for "men need to listen to women and do what they're told"There is more variation within one one half of the gender binary than between them. This is called the gender similarity hypothesis and it has never been proven. The study that originally coined this idea was conducted in a dishonest manner and multiple studies since then have come to the opposite conclusion, especially in specific areas like personality traits, hobbies, and even toy selection at a young age (like almost strait out the womb). [I]t is of course plausible that researchers are infl… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/04/22 03:55 PM |
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