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[–]snehehsb13 points14 points15 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Why do you guys give one fuck about this. Kill all the babies you want. Have a baby shotgun skeet shooting contest. The most babies killed gets a prize. This is mgtow we should be not caring about dumb sluts that can't take care of themselves enough to use protection. We should be caring about being the best damn men We can be to show these dumb bitches what they are missing. Flip the script on them.
[–]Jack-Hole2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
So, we're not allowed to discuss current political event even though they dont pertain to us? You may not care, but I'm sure some of us are into politics, or law and find it relevant.
[–]DWShimoda-5 points-4 points-3 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
So, we're not allowed to discuss current political event even though they dont pertain to us?
You're not allowed to spout a non-NPC position... lest the NPC's attack.
Anything they DON'T like -- related to orange man, etc -- they always go to the "let's not get 'political' here".
Note that this dipshit is still hooked on trying to "impress" women:
We should be caring about being the best damn men We can be to show these dumb bitches what they are missing.
[–]Jack-Hole-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Wow. It was a post from a woman, no one mentioned Trump, the Alabama bill was let through by the female governor, and no one mentioned doing this for women.
I really don't know where you're coming from here.
[–]DWShimoda-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The general "let's not get political" -- doesn't matter what topic -- is always from lefty liberals.
[–]AttikusEUW5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
I dont get all the pro-life arguments, its not a human being in any way the first few weeks and it will likely be a nuisance for the state because who will get the most children? Yea, the low class citizens.
[–]DWShimoda6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I dont get all the pro-life arguments,
Of course you don't... you've been almost entirely indoctrinated into the "clown world" perspective... to wit:
its not a human being in any way the first few weeks
And THIS:
and it will likely be a nuisance for the state because who will get the most children? Yea, the low class citizens.
Is highly revealing... you sure you want to go there?
[–]AttikusEUW0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh my, did I offend your beliefs? Im terribly sorry
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm totally fine by "the first few weeks". In fact, I had a gf have one long time ago in that timespan.
However, abortion in the last trimester, even a day before the kid would have been born is a fucking murder.
[–]EpicFruityPie5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
1, I'm MGTOW so I don't give a shit about children
2, as a nurse, a fetus forms a heart beat at about 4 weeks old so in saying that it is alive and most people don't even know they are pregnant in that time, so after that 4 weeks you are stopping the heartbeat and killing it.
[–]for_women-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
You're not a nurse. If you were, you'd know the fetus does not have a heart by then; not even close. They have a "cardiac pole" that will--much later--develop into a heart. There is electrical activity in the pole. It's not a "heartbeat." You're not killing anything.
[–]EpicFruityPie2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Really? My 3 years training got it wrong?
In the third week, or on the 22nd day, the fetal heart has begun to form. This is precisely when it begins to beat. However, the beat is too soft to be heard through conventional stethoscopes. If the doctor really needs to hear the heartbeat, they can use the much more sensitive fetoscope. It can still be a challenge to hear the heartbeat though, with all the internal noises in the mother’s body, and also I the fetus is active.
[–]for_women-2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You are either not a nurse or you're purposefully feeding people bullshit. A "cardiac pole" is not a heart. And you know that, you're just being purposefully obtuse. The heart is not even close to being formed by the 6th week. Give it up.
[–]EpicFruityPie1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Like I said my 3 year degree taught me everything wrong? Damn why did I pay nearly 30k for that
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[–]Atton_Risk0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Any change in the status quo is more than the present
[–]Blackfysh880 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Agreed. Sometimes burning the field is better than weeding it by hand.
[–]DWShimoda0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Did you want a cookie too?
[–]Sandman103721 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I used to be an adventurer like you, then I took an arrow in the knee.
[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
How about quit being prejudice against others beliefs.
[–]RGtwo[S] 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
How does this relate to MGTOW?
Here we have a female publicly declaring she wants the right to commit murder. We talk about exposing the nature of women; well, here it is, a woman demanding the right to murder to escape consequences. Inability to take responsibility taken to the extreme. Now imagine when this female supremacy privilege extends beyond babies to grown adults. 60th trimester late-term abortion, anyone?
Religious beliefs?
No, one does not need religious belief to know murder is wrong.
[–]yash_blue1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
As someone who is in the the top tax bracket I see it like this, I will be paying for parasites either way, then the appropriate action would be to support the process that stops the multiplication of parasites, so I support the abortion, I don't care even if it's stabbing babies in head, if god is a thing then these bitches will go to hell, if god is not a thing then these bitches who are willing to murder babies even in last trimester are bound to be poor excuse of a mother anyway, I see it as a win win
[–]Mr_M0t0m00 points1 point2 points 7 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
I don't care if EVERY woahman in the WORLD has abortions until their internal organs fall out!! EVERY time they talk about males not having uterus, therefore not having a stake in abortion or ruling on "... what woahmans can do with their bodies ...", they don't have a stake in what I do, say, or think at ANY point in the day. I'm MGTOW. I don't give them attention or power over me. FUCK THEM ALL
[–]RegiusGeralt0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I say let western society end up like Japan and be done with it we don't need to save western DEMOCUCKS society from its stupidity LET IT ALL BURN!!!!!
[–]type-unknown0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm not advocating for murder, I just want murder legalised.
Potayto, potahto.
[–]RGtwo[S] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago* (30 children) | Copy Link
*Edit: How does this relate to MGTOW?
No, one does not need religious belief to know murder is wrong.*
Original: Imgur link: https://i.imgur.com/kFZazAe.jpg
Gents I must share with you this nice piece of cancer I saw on a "friend's" post. This is why abortion debate is non-sense. The "pro-choice" side's true purpose is absolutely about killing babies. The extreme cases they always strawman for (rape, danger to mother, etc) are nothing but smoke screen meant to detract the conversation, so they can push the boundary.
This is why you don't need to be apologetic or advertise how you agree with making exceptions. Straight up call these women and white knight cucks out on their real intention: To kill babies.
[–]ElMatador_335 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Muh religionz?! Muh morality!? Since when do MGTOW care about children! Beat it, simp.
[–]roof_man-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If you’re gonna downvote me can I at least know what part you didn’t agree with?
[–]DWShimoda0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The "pro-choice" side's true purpose is absolutely about killing babies
What it is really about is to have the STATE place women above and beyond ANY form of "constraint" (or societal control or shame) -- even above ANY form of responsibility or accountability -- about ANY action or behavior they may choose to do for whatever reason (or indeed for no reason).
Presently (recently) they were pushing for more:
And they've already arguably achieved many of the following:
Heck... abandon or abuse or neglect or "fuck over" (hormone pills, other behavioral modification meds to make them "behave" whatever) -- even in some instances outright kill -- their OLDER children? Society stands ready with a thousand "excuses".
Have the state "get rid of" (lock up, etc) various boys/men who make them FEEEEEEL "creeped out" -- via some accusation of "rape" (which definition they are attempting to make so broad -- and to entirely eliminate any/all possible defenses or even decade+ time limits -- that there almost is no way to refute, or even label the accusation as "false").
Chop off hubby/boyfriends' penis or balls? Surely she had some reason, and he (obviously) must have done something to deserve it!
Even more than one case ("burning bed") -- justifying the outright murder of a husband/boyfriend -- something many women would doubtless like to have the power to do (and arguably via DV/VAWA have the ability to "arrange to have done FOR them by the state"); they only don't push/contrive for it to be done, because they desire instead for the man to be "cast out" yet simultaneously perpetually "enslaved" and forced to provide them with money/resources.
The eventual goal is that -- via all of the above (and other social engineering things) -- to undermine and ultimately destroy the very basis for so called "individual rights" (speech, association, defense, etc) ... So that the "STATE" (or more correctly those few who are in control of its levers) reigns supreme and is arbitrarily & capriciously able to do WHATEVER it may want to do... to any & all of the "herd of sheeple."
[–]roof_man-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago* (25 children) | Copy Link
I mean it’s pretty fucked up that it’s completely illegal in Alabama. If it’s from rape or incest you shouldn’t be forced to carry to term if you don’t want to. Also if the process of having the baby poses a threat to the mother or babies life, that would make sense to let them decide what to do. Or if you know that there is a very significant defect with the baby, and it would likely die soon after birth and only know pain in its life, I’d say they should still have a choice. I’d agree it shouldn’t be allowed to abort a baby just because you don’t want to raise it, but if it was conceived without consent, or poses a risk to the life of the baby or the mother I believe there should still be a choice.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
If you get raped theres a day after pill...
[–]roof_man0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I know for me at least I like having multiple options at my disposal in my life but that’s just me. There’s also a chance they wouldn’t be in any state of mind to do much other than sleep and try to process what happened until the pill would have a lower chance of success, because rape is a pretty traumatic experience. But the pill could definitely help. But that still leaves the point of what happens if they find out the birthing process would be fatal to the mother or child?
[–]DWShimoda-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (22 children) | Copy Link
Did you want an NPC Cookie for being a "good little boy" in regurgitating those talking points? Maybe a little "gold star" on your assignment?
[–]roof_man-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (21 children) | Copy Link
I’ll take a good star if the offers on the table. But I mean it’s legit points that he just glossed over. Lots of posts on here talk about paying child support for getting someone pregnant despite them saying they are on birth control, and how that’s bull shit. It would also be bull shit, If someone was raped and had no intention of having a child, but was forced to carry it to term or go to jail for it.
[–]DWShimoda1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link
I’ll take a good star if the offers on the table.
Well, you'll have to wait for your reward from some other NPC indoctrinee.
But I mean it’s legit points that he just glossed over.
No, they're not... they're preprogrammed "thought stopping/thought rejection" points that you've been indoctrinated into spewing.
Lots of posts on here talk about paying child support for getting someone pregnant despite them saying they are on birth control, and how that’s bull shit. It would also be bull shit, If someone was raped and had no intention of having a child, but was forced to carry it to term or go to jail for it.
Except you're not arguing for some actual "exception" provision or mechanism... you're advocating for the "on demand" (with no accountability) power to be (remain) SOLELY with women.
[–]roof_man-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link
How are you going to offer me an award and not come through on it man?
Also they are absolutely legit talking points. If you get raped and become pregnant, you should have a choice. By not consenting to sex, you should be able to take away any chance of having a child in that scenario. When this is taken from you, you should still have a choice, as it was not your decision to have sex, and the child will be a constant reminder of what could possibly be the worst experience of your life. If the birthing the child poses a threat to the child’s life, or mothers life they should also be given a choice, as it’s is not about living an easier life, it is their own life and death, and they could also not want to bring a child into the world to only know pain and die shortly after. Just because it doesn’t fit your narrative doesn’t make it an illegitimate point.
Also I could’ve been unclear, I do believe the circumstances I outlined should be the only ones where abortion is an option. Having an abortion because you got pregnant and don’t want to deal with it should absolutely be illegal.
[–]DWShimoda-4 points-3 points-2 points 7 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link
I didn't offer you a reward, I asked if you were expecting one.
Also they are absolutely legit talking points.
No, they are not.
If so, they you should advocate FOR the current Alabama law... but then also advocate for the addition of some "special case" exception mechanism.
Just be careful how you construct it, because -- unless there is some MASSIVE negative consequence to a FALSE claim -- the mere claim of "I wuz raped" is a loophole that truckloads of women will drive through.
And yes I ignored your BIG paragraph:
If you get raped and become pregnant, you should have a choice. By not consenting to sex, you should be able to take away any chance of having a child in that scenario. When this is taken from you, you should still have a choice, as it was not your decision to have sex, and the child will be a constant reminder of what could possibly be the worst experience of your life. If the birthing the child poses a threat to the child’s life, or mothers life they should also be given a choice, as it’s is not about living an easier life, it is their own life and death, and they could also not want to bring a child into the world to only know pain and die shortly after. Just because it doesn’t fit your narrative doesn’t make it an illegitimate point.
Because 99.999% of that is bullshit.
[–]roof_man-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago* (17 children) | Copy Link
Those are all legit points you just don’t have arguments against my man. But if it’s bull shit, can you please explain why we should make someone who was raped keep the child? Or why we shouldn’t allow for abortion if it poses a threat to the mothers life or the child’s? I’ve given my reasoning on it, what’s yours?
Also, I’d be all for the law if it did have exceptions. But it does not. It takes away the right from people who would actually need an abortion just as much as it does the people who are too lazy to take care of a kid.
Also, in order for the abortion for rape to be allowed to happen, the man should have to be tried and found guilty of rape.
[–]DWShimoda-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link
Those are all legit points you just don’t have arguments against my man.
I'm not wasting my time trying to "argue" -- you've made nothing more than an assertion, and I have stated I reject that assertion -- restating it multiple times and reclaiming that they are "legitimate" (even though you have also just admitted that they do NOT apply to >99% of the cases), does not alter that.
But if it’s bull shit, can you please explain why we should make someone who was raped keep the child? Or why we shouldn’t allow for abortion if it poses a threat to the mothers life or the child’s? I’ve given my reasoning on it, what’s yours?
Those are strawman statements, we're talking about your position... which is (at present) entirely hypocritical (i.e. bullshit).
Also, I’d be all for the law if it did have exceptions.
No, you wouldn't.
But it does not. It takes away the right from people who would actually need an abortion just as much as it does the people who are too lazy to take care of a kid.
There is no such "right."
See, now that would be the beginning of (the bare beginning of) an attempt to construct some proper "exception" mechanism.
It's NOT a very well thought out one... but at least the gears of your brain are BEGINNING to function; instead of just regurgitating feminist catechism points.
[–]roof_man-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link
I know we were talking about my position. I gave you my reasoning behind why I believe it. I am asking for yours, because we do not agree and I am seeking to understand your point of view. My problem is that women can’t get abortions even if they were raped or could lose their life or the child’s life in the process. I have made that very clear. You are not agreeing with this, and I am just asking why you think that they should have to carry the baby to term if these scenarios are applicable.
Also, I absolutely would be for the law if they made these exceptions. As I stated before, I believe these are the only times abortion should be allowed.
There is a right to have an abortion for both the reasons I listed in literally every state in America that isn’t Alabama.
Also wouldn’t call either of those points feminist catch points. That to me is the “my body, my choice” bull shit that gets spewed when someone doesn’t want to have a kid so they don’t have to deal with it. One of these is literally someone getting pregnant without ever consenting to sex, which should take away any chance of them getting impregnated by that person. The other is a legitimate medical reason involving the life or death of the mother or child during the birth process.
Straight up call these women and white knight cucks out on their real intention: To kill babies.
Remember how the 'left' used the term 'Baby-killer' on our returning Vietnam Vets? Even though many of those soldiers where just doing their best to stay alive and fight a two-faced war?
Pepe-ridge Farm remembers.
Use their own playbook against them. Baby-klllers. That's what they are. Even if they are 'shameless', use the term so that it eventually kicks in on a subconscious level.
[–]user_miki-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Our problem is that we(men) have no choice or reproductive rights.
If want to keep a baby she has no right to kill it without my consent,and I take all responsibilities to raise the child without her in any capacity(money or otherwise).
If I don't want the baby I cannot be on the hook for child support 18 years she will take care of everything without my involvement in any capacity.It is all down to responsibilities.Who take care of what/who.
This is fair.
Now is not.We are only seen as utilities,support,props by the society.
[–]funknaught-2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Its all about absolving responsibility and giving the evil medical industry the ability to part the fetus out like an old car.
[–]funknaught0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Uh-huh -1 points in 16 hours. Must have struck a nerve :) The truth is that an enormous amount of money is driving this divisive issue because fetuses are a cash crop.
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