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Another male friendly mental health help group ! " "Men are often the at the root of a lot of the problems of society."

SamaelET

July 16, 2021

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Title	Another male friendly mental health help group ! " "Men are often the at the root of a lot of the problems of society."
Author	SamaelET
Upvotes	127
Comments	30
Date	July 16, 2021 4:05 PM UTC (5 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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Toxic masculinity doesn't exist.

Men's violence is due to misandry. Men's violence is due to poverty (85% of rough sleepers are male), harsher judicial punishement for men than women for the same crime, female centered mental health services, victim blaming men, mental health issues and mental diabilities which are more frequent in men. Male criminals are also moslty victims of child abuses, mostly by mothers. And the do not receive help since we live in a misandrist society catering for women and hating on men.

Men's mental health issues receive less attention than women's because of misandry and female privileges. Moreover feminists also oppose helping men at every turn. Even for gender neutral child rape laws, feminist oppose it.

"Agnes has voiced opposition to making rape laws gender neutral, expounding that criminalizing rape of men 'harm women more than men.' Agnes also said 'we [women's groups] opposed it when they made child rape laws gender neutral."

In nonreciprocally violent relationships, women were the perpetrators in more than 70% of the cases.

https://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/full/10.2105/AJPH.2005.079020.

Parent committing filicide – Mother – 67% Father – 33%

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2922347/

Women are the majority of intimate partner abusers and child killers. So toxic femininty ?

Let's do a role reversal :

Do you know why women do most of chores ? Toxic femininty.

Do you know why women don't go to police after rape ? Toxic femininty.

Do you know why women have body image issues ? Toxic femininty.

Do you find it helpful ?

Do you also define toxic blackness since most violence and crimes in america is by black people ?.

Now imagine an imaginary world where nobody cared female issues, everybody demonized women and femininty while male issues received every issues and were said to be morally superior. Women are told to shut up, while men just hace to cry to get help. Women don't receive any empathy. And then you think you see someone who will help you, and she says :

"Women commit most violence against children and most domestic abuse. They push people to suicide using female privileges or kill people without fearing any punishement. They think of children as objects and tools to further abuse and use men around them. They fight to make legal for women to rape and abuse men and boys. Women are the roots of society's problem"?

I wonder how likely you would be to engage ? Or how you would feel. This is men's situation.

Now go away you and your misandry. You are not able to see how men are never helped except when they are seen as evil beasts who need to be fixed to protect the faultless, perfect and divine women whose crimes and faults are blamed on men and boys. People helping men with empathy for helping men as the end goal are rare. But you cannot understand it because as a woman you receive empathy and everyone of you faults are blamed on men and society who need "to do better".

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[–]SamaelET[S] 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

AHAHAHAJAHAHAHAHHAHBA

1) This is no sources, this a webpage

2) These idiots are based on Johnson's life work. A famous male haters, sorry misandrist, sorry feminists.

In Johnson & Leone, 2005 he analyzes data from he National Violence Against Women Survey and assesses the rate of intimate terrorism victimization (real domestic violence) of women. Later, Felson and Outlaw (2007) analyzed the same data to measure the coercive control perpetration of women, the main criteria which, according to Johnson, allows you to know the situational violent perpetrators from intimate terrorists. They found that the rates were similar to men's perpetration. Johnson’s typology was also used by Straus and Gozjolko (2007) on the International Dating Violence Study's data, and found symmetry in intimate terrorits demographic in male and female populations.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0192513X04270345

https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2007-12642-001

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs10896-013-9560-7

3) As I said my source makes difference between self defense and one way violence it is mostly women.

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs12119-004-1001-6 "This bibliography examines 155 scholarly investigations; 126 empirical studies and 29 reviews and/or analyses, which demonstrate that women are as physically aggressive, or more aggressive than men in their relationships with their spouses or male partners. The aggregate sample size in the reviewed studies exceeds 116,000."

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Your first link only talk about homicide, women are just more likely to be killed because of body strenght.

The UK's ONS stats, done by feminists, show at least 30% of victims are men. I would expect a British to know is.

You can read at the bottom of their page : https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/bulletins/domesticabuseinenglandandwalesoverview/november2020

That they also use independant orgs' stats. Meaning domestic abuse agencies, shelters, hotlines, etc. Who mostly cater for women and usually exclude men by their name (VAWG). Which is why it is not perfectly reliable.

Moreover ONS stats doesn't make the difference between "domestic terrorism" (one way violence), self defense, two way violence and occasional violence. When you make the difference, you find more male victims.

Reproductibility is key in science. There are more than 150 studies showing more female perpetrators. Very few studies show more male perpetrators. The methodology used is CTS and CTE2S, the tools used almost everywhere. If you cannot criticize the methodology, you can only brush it as "they lie" as any good feminist will do.

To answer to your other comment :

Government doesn't do stats by themselve, they go to academia and others orgs. Financed by government. As you can see even ONS do it.

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