Most guys are married without getting into pickup, though avg age at marriage is increasing.

They did it without learning about DHV's, IOIs, etc from books and videos. Aside from the outlier successfuls (rich, connected), why is it so much more work for the rest of us?

One reason might be standards; I met guys with 5+ kids with multiple women and their baby mamas are average to below average.

Just made me wonder since I feel handicapped in this area lol but I'm usually above average in other stuff I do.