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Debate12throw1234away34/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 05:20 PM
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I look at the underlying message, which is: men enjoy sex more than women because men have a biological imperative to try to mate with as many women as possible. The crude coating of degeneracy and stretches to say it means cheating etc are just noise to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 07:45 PM
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Don’t want to be too specific: but it’s in the realm of big law / tech / medicine / etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 07:38 PM
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Men are far more driven and incentivized by achieving success and power than women are because women reward them for that. Women are also biologically at a disadvantage in terms of having to bear children and take time off. So, naturally, men will continue to eke out a workplace advantage while they work and the mothers take months off for childbirth. And lastly, this goes back to my first sentence: I think men are more able to tolerate the bullshit and stress of corporate politics and stress. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 06:35 PM
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I disagree and think even in the domain of air conditioned office jobs, men will still outcompete women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 06:16 PM
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Explain?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 06:00 PM
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The patriarchy is a byproduct of hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 05:40 PM
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Agree with you, esp if the man is not appealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 05:39 PM
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Agree on everything you say. I think where this dynamic won’t change, though, is with the apex members of society: the most beautiful, sought out women in the world and the most powerful, wealthy, and influential men of the world. And that relationship will hold true as you go down that ladder. I think what you’re describing is much more prevalent with the more normal members of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 05:39 PM
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We do live in a gynocentric time period, but gynocentrism is still a byproduct of the patriarchy. The patriarchy supersedes the gynocentric structure.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 05:31 PM
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Men are more attracted to beauty than women are. That’s why the wealthiest men in the world invariably have beautiful spouses, even if the men themselves are butt fucking ugly or physically unappealing. Saying that men are horny animals that want to spread their seed is not misandrist at all (at least not to me). I think it’s crude, yes, but ultimately true.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 05:29 PM
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A society and culture where men predominantly wield the most influence and power.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 05:27 PM
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Again, I’m not talking about unappealing men who also happen to make no money. I’m saying a woman who makes $100k should not disqualify a man who makes $80k if she’s otherwise attracted to him physically and emotionally. I myself am a high earner making half a million dollars in a major city. I routinely date lawyers, dentists, doctors etc that make 200k-300k and these women scoff at men who make $150k. These women tend to be perpetually single because they are so above the median in wages, they…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 05:18 PM
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You didn’t read my comment where I stated I’m talking about young people in major cities. It says young women in nyc and dc make 102% of what young men make.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 05:15 PM
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https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2022/03/28/young-women-are-out-earning-young-men-in-several-u-s-cities/ I need to caveat that my viewpoints are meant to apply to people like me and my peers: men and women in major cities who are in their prime years for dating and marriage: those between their 20s to 40s. Also I did not say women need to date poor men. My assertion is a woman who makes $100k shouldn’t rule out an otherwise appealing man from dating if he “only” makes $85k or something cl…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 04:48 PM
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As did I. I’m tall, fit, and a multimillionaire. That doesn’t mean I don’t see the hypocrisy and BS standards in modern women though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 04:34 PM
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Fair. I agree that one’s wealth needs to take outlandish forms (multiple millions) in order to outweigh looks. A chad making $150k will almost always beat out an average looking man making $300k.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 03:48 PM
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They have more and more power is the point. Society complains about income inequality in our modern, capitalistic culture where the rich get even richer. The same effect is playing out in intersexual dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 03:45 PM
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This isn’t a post to elicit sympathy for incels. It’s a post to squash sympathy for perpetually single women who set their standards too high because they uphold their hypergamous tendencies for more and more wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 03:43 PM
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My nuanced take is that the wealthiest men fuck the hottest women. You can be ugly as fuck as a man, but if you have a billion dollars and are willing to spend it on women, you absolutely will have beautiful women lining up to be your wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 03:40 PM
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So then they should stop complaining about the patriarchy that they uphold and incentivize.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 03:14 PM
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I didn’t say lower all your standards unilaterally. I said lower your standards for only wanting men who make more money than you. The way that women lose out long term is they delude themselves into thinking they’re better off being single with their standards that are higher than necessary. Let me put it this way: as long as a woman is physically and emotionally attracted to a given man, as long as she makes enough money to sustain them both and he also makes decent money (but less than her), …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 03:13 PM
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And that’s exactly my point: by upholding their hypergamous standards for men who make more money than them, they continue to perpetuate the patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 03:09 PM
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It’s not about physical attraction. Women can be as picky as they want when it comes to looks. But if she makes multiple six figures and chooses to be single because men don’t make as much as her, then I have zero sympathy for her. I know women who make $400k who refuse to date men who “only” make $200k. Assume the man is attractive and emotionally intelligent. Since these empowered women no longer need to depend on men for money, shouldn’t this man be considered a very suitable partner? I say t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 03:03 PM
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If it happens once or twice, sure. But it’s happening to them consistently. Each top tier guy is absolutely running through and cleaning up. So it’s NORMAL for decent looking women to get a ton of experience sleeping with men above their league. They think, eventually, one will stick around. They won’t. Why would he? He has much more attractive women to choose from when he wants to settle down. She was just a casual drunk lay at 3 am on a Friday when he was bored and knew she’d come through like…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 11:59 PM
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This is an insane take. You’re saying most men defend convicted rapists? Wow. Don’t you know rapists are famous for getting beat to shit in prison?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 10:53 PM
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Bullying is one thing. I agree men are more susceptible to doing that vs women. But I think men are also more likely to be brutally honest to their friends about how they’re fucking up (and not in a bullying way but in a tough love way) compared to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 10:24 PM
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Both. When I see women on social media talking about leeching men for money, all the comments are other women gassing each other up. When I see men on social media talking about toxic manipulation strategies to get women, I always see a couple dissenter men who call it out and call it pathetic, stupid, immature, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 10:22 PM
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Agree that below average men shoot up as well. But the top tier men can sleep with hundreds and hundreds of women. I know a guy with a 600 body count at 29. He sleeps with 4-5 women a week if he wants to. He’s classically tall and handsome and routinely goes for women that are at least 6s and above to my eye. I’d say he’s more like an 8 though. All those 6s he sleeps with? Especially if he sleeps with them more than once? They become obsessed even when he’s clear it’s casual only. I’ve seen some…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 10:20 PM
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It’s a problem because they aren’t able to reframe their reality and actually feel good about their circumstances. That 6 woman will believe she’s settling for a 7 man and not be as content as she “should” be. She’s less likely to want to treat her partner like the catch he is for HER. I genuinely believe this results in women ending up single longer than they should be and unhappier longer term in their relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 09:35 PM
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I actually agree with everything you wrote. I should be clearer in asserting that my post is geared towards desirable women strictly from a looks perspective, which is typically women who are above average or at least a 5.5 or above, strictly speaking. I’ve also found that women who are below average in looks tend to be overwhelmingly accurate and realistic in how they self assess their looks. That’s why in my post I went to lengths to specify that I think it’s women who are 6s and 7s who are mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 09:05 PM
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Of course men do it too. But my assertion is that MORE women do it to much greater magnitude. Gossip for instance is clearly a strongly gendered pastime for women. I see countless subs dedicated to women snarking on and shitting on female influencers and celebrities. They’ll take pictures of their outfits, make up, etc and nit pick how they got plastic surgery, how their bf doesn’t make as much money as she conveys, etc. All forms of character assassination. I don’t see any subreddits populated …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 08:51 PM
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Who is more likely to tell their obese friend in clear, no uncertain terms without sugarcoating that they need to lose weight to be healthier and have better dating outcomes? A man or a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 08:47 PM
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I agree that’s a top form as well. Men get the spotlight around bad behavior because it’s typically observable and measurable in non-abstract terms by way of overt violence: murder, violence, etc. it can be easily classified and quantified. But for women, to your point, they conduct more abstract forms of violence, like gossip and character assassination, emotional abuse, leading men on for resources (yes, some men do this too with sex, but not many can get away with it to the extent women can),…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 08:44 PM
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Women not in their social circle? Yes. There is intrasexual competition. Women inside their social circle? That’s where the sugarcoating thrives.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 08:24 PM
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The man wants a nut and the woman has no value to him outside of that. The functional equivalent here is the stripper giving a man a lap dance in exchange for money. If the stripper slept with him, I’d agree with you. That’s beyond the norm of what a stripper would provide to you. But while it’s the literal equivalent of the man sleeping with a woman, it’s not the functional equivalent. I think the functional equivalent for the man sleeping with the woman is if he love bombs her and/or indicates…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 06:52 PM
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Oh ok
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 06:40 PM
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That’s noble of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 06:31 PM
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Different times. Dating dynamics from the 90s are not at all similar to modern dating in 2024.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 06:30 PM
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You missed my point. But I also didn’t state it as clearly as I should’ve. My point is that when a woman who’s a 6 sleeps with an 8 or 9 man who just wanted to get a nut, she confuses that for romantic intention. And she then starts to believe her league is 8+ men. It’s not. She’s then doomed to fail in romance because she won’t be satisfied with a 6.5 or 7 man because in her eyes, she deserves better. That dynamic is akin to a man paying for a lap dance with a stunning stripper and then believi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 06:27 PM
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That’s what I wrote in my post: that only 8+ women are getting attention from elite men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 06:19 PM
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Can you copy paste verbatim from my post where I wrote that regular women are getting pursued by elite men?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 06:18 PM
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You agreed with me without realizing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 06:17 PM
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Are they aware that the man out of her league is spamming other women too? I’m sure some do. But I’ve also noticed some women have a tendency to delude themselves into a fairytale and think that that man actually likes them ESPECIALLY when they have sex. Getting spammed as an okay looking woman in the DMs for sex is NOT remotely close to the emotional impact she would feel after actually having sex with a very attractive man.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 06:15 PM
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I see the study that shows men over rate their attractiveness and I acknowledge and believe it. But let’s add some nuance: my assertion is what happens is a 4 or 5 man will think he’s 1-2 points hotter than he is. But for slightly above average women like 5.5s to 7s, not only do they buck the trend of underrating themselves, they overrate themselves even MORE than men do. So a 6 will think she’s an 8.5 or 9 and so forth. So my assertion is young, modern women are actually more delusional than me…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 06:13 PM
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Exactly. I used to get frustrated when I’d get replies like the guy here. But now I just chuckle at their false indignation generated from their confidently incorrect understanding. It’s really funny and amusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 06:09 PM
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Morality is not being discussed here. Hence why I said the functional equivalent. Not the moral equivalent. Classic mistake I see people make here all the time when they don’t understand the analogy. And yes, most women do not get chased by elite men. But you can bet your ass that solid 8s and above so, consistently, in the DMs. They probably represent 5% of the female population.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 06:06 PM
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It was a mixer dinner from a lowkey social club I’m in. I had never met these women before.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 02:19 AM
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Another gem of an exchange from my dinner where there were six women. They asked me about one of my main issues with dating and I mentioned the inconsistencies of modern women: how they simultaneously demand the traditional aspects of chivalry (pay for everything, lead all the planning, etc) while still maintaining their empowered Feminist selves. When I mentioned an example of a friend who is a successful, liberal attorney who said unironically “I want to date a liberal feminist man who pays fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 01:33 AM
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Exactly. That’s the other level of delusion they have. What makes them think that they’re SO special that this ultra desirable man will settle down with her? As much as I lambast women for this delusion, I can’t fault them. It’s part of evolutionary biology. They have to believe they have a chance getting knocked up by the most attractive man they see in order to actually have a shot at making it happen. Sort of like getting an offer for a super prestigious job. You have 0% chance of landing it …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 01:27 AM
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Slightly desirable women are the most delusional. I was at a dinner with 6 women the other night. All in their early 30s. All relatively successful career wise. All decently attractive as robust 6s in the looks department. Well dressed, well spoken, and all around decent women. All single. The dinner quickly spiraled into dating woes. And how men have so many problems. When it got to the topic of dating apps and hinge specifically, they all complained about how hinge hides their “most compatible…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 01:17 AM
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So all women who expect to have men pay for their dates are essentially Sugar Babies Lite.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 01:49 PM
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This is where I stop replying to you because you’re arguing an inane point. Thanks for helping me wake up and realize we are indeed not animals in a cage. Thought I was in the matrix or sth!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 06:29 PM
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Nothing about that statement implies compulsory. What it does recognize is the biological drive/imperative to reproduce. Two different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 06:24 PM
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A significant chunk of men historically fail to reproduce (I think around 30% or so of men). But today with technology, social media, and dating apps, these very men who would have failed to reproduce in the past anyway feel even worse about their circumstances because they get the false illusion they have a chance. Sorry, but they never had a chance to begin with. The net result is more simp-age and desperation that further fuel women’s egos. It’s a self perpetuating feedback loop.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 05:22 PM
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Modern women famously are allergic to accountability because the modern, gynocentric discourse constantly paints them as helpless victims of the patriarchy. Nothing is ever their fault. It’s always men’s fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 04:23 PM
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It’s the ONE double standard that benefits men. Every other gender based double standard benefits women. Women: why can’t I have ALL the double standards?!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 01:25 PM
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Man finds out his fiancée had a gang bang in the past. Calls off the wedding. Fiancée posts about the situation. Women in the thread moaning about how men can’t accept women’s pasts. The top most comments are more balanced and reasonable. But as you scroll down further, you start seeing the comments from women who are pissed they can’t be wild sluts and not have it matter in the future. https://www.reddit.com/r/sex/comments/14fkiyh/my_fianc%C3%A9_is_calling_off_our_wedding_because_of/?utm_source…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 11:48 AM
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I’m going to develop a dating app that only allows men to swipe after they’ve jerked off. This will prevent thirsty, simp like behavior and the playing field in terms of interest levels between the genders will normalize. Enforcement of the jerked off requirement will be handled by your mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 10:52 PM
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Get in the car
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 11:22 PM
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Nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 11:13 PM
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My portfolio is up several 5 figures today. Nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 09:50 PM
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Any woman below a 6 doesn’t register in my mind as a romantic prospect. It’s no different than how the average guy doesn’t register to most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 02:36 PM
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This is true. Most of the dating turnoffs I see in women are most common with the women who are 7.5s and above. So my sweet spot for LTRs is with 6.5s and 7s. 5.5s and below need not apply. They don’t register as romantic prospects in my mind. They’re practically invisible.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 01:47 PM
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Men, don’t date a woman whose main hobbies include long hours in the sun. They will age like a carton of whole milk sitting out in the Texas heat. The facial wrinkles… 😩
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 02:59 PM
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I’m pretty RP in my beliefs about female nature. But my ideal relationship type is BP.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 02:49 PM
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Nah, “munch my pussy” would be 1:1.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 02:46 PM
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I wrote that eye skin comment loooool
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 02:41 PM
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So, $250k for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 01:08 AM
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What’s the smallest amount of lottery money that would make you ecstatic to win? An amount where’d you’d be in disbelief at first and then once it sinks in, where you’d be going holy shit holy shit holy shit and jumping for joy? $1k? 10k? 100k? 1mil?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 12:00 AM
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Are you attractive enough to land one?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 11:08 PM
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Tall, skinny, pretty yoga chicks with tight, toned stomachs and arms >>>>>>>>>>
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 10:25 PM
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Their opinions only matter to the men trying to date and sleep with them aka not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 04:03 PM
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I’ve noticed the 4.5s and 5s tend to be the most deluded into thinking they’re 6s. 3s and below know they’re doomed. Then the 6s think they’re 8s. The women who are most realistic with their looks are the 7s and above.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 03:38 PM
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Correct
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 03:16 PM
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If you’re a woman and you’re not a solid 6 at a minimum, do your dating thoughts and opinions even matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 03:07 PM
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Nothing like starting off her Sunday morning with nutting and a cream pie.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 02:33 PM
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Agreed. Gonna wait another year.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 09:51 PM
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All of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 09:51 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 09:23 PM
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A major city.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 09:15 PM
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Drop 5k on rent or 6k on a mortgage?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 07:08 PM
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Opened the windows to freshen the air. Two flies came in. Slaughtered both of them with my electric fly swatter. The crackle pop sound of their bodies exploding due to the electrical surge running through their putrid bodies gives me great joy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 06:51 PM
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Yep. That and the color/glow of their skin. Older women’s skin looks duller and darker. Hard to explain. Also, the top of their hands. The veins tend to be way more pronounced and protruding.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 03:26 PM
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You just need to look at the skin surrounding a woman’s eyes to tell if they’re older or younger than 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 03:19 PM
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I think there are a handful who don’t get any at all. The rest probably don’t get laid by the men they want either.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 02:34 PM
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Decorative fireplaces fucking suck. If you have one, you’re a goof.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 02:30 PM
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Some of the women here need to get laid and it shows.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 02:30 PM
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I’ve started tuning out the stupid shit from the unhinged posters. I’d rather just block them and not see their thoughts.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 09:30 PM
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Bong? Edibles? Joint? Rosin? Wax?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 07:57 PM
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She sounds unhinged.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 06:58 PM
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There are too many lonely, single men. Holy shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 06:34 PM
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Friend A sounds like a cunt. Unless the guy she was dating behaved poorly or inappropriately, no reason for her to publicly shit on and humiliate him.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 06:04 PM
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Pretty girls tend to have large social networks and thus don’t need to resort to online meetups.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 05:37 PM
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Nah, no one cool enough I’d want to hang out further with. We left after an hour.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 02:18 PM
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Went to a meet up group HH yesterday with a friend to make new friends and meet some women. It was full of socially awkward men and very few women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 01:43 PM
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Men should start monkey branching.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 02:46 AM
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Are there any actual 6s and 7s here? I get the vibe most women here are mostly 4s and 5s with a couple 3s sprinkled here and there.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 03:03 AM
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Wow. First time hearing about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 01:48 AM
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Does the pill make women age faster?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 01:17 AM
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Empty calories
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 06:07 PM
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Shoulda put it away in your belly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 03:17 PM
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Equinox released an April fools joke trailer for a dating app. I actually wish it were real. I’d love to seriously date a fellow equinox going baddie.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 03:13 PM
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This sounds bomb. Gonna get high and get one later today.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 03:10 PM
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Lol just wait and see. And automating menial office jobs is a completely different ballgame than radiology.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 02:06 AM
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Lol yup. It’s crazy to think how big of an impact AI is gonna have on jobs in the medium term, let alone long term. I’m excited to see what comes next.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 02:01 AM
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All of you people who work menial office, paper pushing jobs (Eg paralegals, medical billing) are ripe for disruption with AI software tools that will roll out in the next 3-7 years. Good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 01:56 AM
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L o fucking l
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 01:54 AM
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It’s like the Kanye lyric about money. Having money isn’t everything, but not having it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 03:43 PM
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Meaningless casual sex isn’t the everlasting fountain of joy that most men think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 03:27 PM
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My point is that “manifesting” requires planning out what you need to do to achieve it and actually doing the hard work. Most of these goofs don’t do anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 02:41 PM
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Women over the age 24 who unironically tell each other and themselves to “manifest” whatever they want are corny, delusional, lazy, dumb goofs. They’re sort of the equivalent of crypto bros who think they’re going to become millionaires in 1-2 years. But at least the crypto bros are trading and trying to do sth. These female goofs just sit around, painting a picture in their minds, hoping it’ll fall into their laps from sheer will (of doing nothing).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 02:23 PM
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I also know that having more melanin in your skin makes you wrinkle less, which is why black folks tend to age remarkably well.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 01:47 AM
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Bc she looked old af lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 01:21 AM
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Also true. Doctors I’ve noticed tend to look old. Probably the hours, stress, and lack of sleep and poor nutrition / lack of exercise.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 01:10 AM
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I think most of them tend to be successful women with great careers. Maybe they’re spending a ton on skincare.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 01:02 AM
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I have my bumble set to up to 40 in age and there are some absolutely stunning women in their mid to late 30s. They’ve clearly taken care of themselves but more importantly, I think it’s genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 01:00 AM
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It’s interesting how some women age horribly compared to others. I know lifestyle factors like too much sun exposure, alcohol, drugs, lack of sleep, stress, etc can accelerate aging. But damn. I’ll run into a profile on the apps where the woman looks like someone in her mid 30s and she’s actually 27. I remember many years ago I was at a bar and the bartender asked me how old I thought she was. Truthfully said I thought she was in her early 30s. She was actually 26. She legit got super upset at m…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 11:54 PM
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It’s bc the actress was preggo during filming.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 08:19 PM
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Manifest it boi.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 06:49 PM
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Only if they actually concretely plan the steps needed to achieve said goal and act on them. Just visualizing it and hoping it falls in your lap is pure idiocy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 05:28 PM
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Should we tell broke, unattractive, socially inept men to manifest dating a model on the cover of vogue?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 05:27 PM
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Succession is the best show on tv rn.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 05:25 PM
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Totally agree. I was listening to this 18 year old kid saying he was gonna become a millionaire in 2 years from crypto. Sweet summer child.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 05:09 PM
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Delusional women say they want crazy unattainable shit and think they can sit back and do nothing. But it’s okay. They’re manifesting it in their minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 05:07 PM
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It’s possible she sleeps around and is loose. It’s not the vibe I get from her but I may be wrong. STDs are a risk, yes. And you’re right. I did act as her fucking therapist last night. It was exhausting. Then again, she at least let me nut inside her twice.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 04:59 PM
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“Manifest it gurl!”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 04:52 PM
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No one’s asking you that question.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 04:52 PM
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Yeah it’s draining to listen to people complain constantly. It’s straight up not fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 03:23 PM
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True on the texture part but I think it’s fine personally. And as long as it’s not cut too thick we could avoid it being overwhelming. I think it could work. It’s just too expensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 03:22 PM
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Ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 03:18 PM
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We live in a major liberal city where she’s trying to get her career off the ground. She doesn’t have the trappings of a baby trapper.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 03:13 PM
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Why is Parmesan cheese so good? I also just realized that I’ve never seen a sandwich that uses Parmesan cheese. It’s always American, Swiss, cheddar, provolone, Monterey Jack, pepper jack, or sometimes mozzarella. I wonder why. I don’t think even Italian sandwiches ever use Parmesan cheese. Is it a price issue bc it’s expensive?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 03:12 PM
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She’s too young to be having kids (mid/late 20s).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 03:01 PM
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Yep. Like I said, I picked up on her neuroticism very hard on our second date. Even got hints of it on our first.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 02:55 PM
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She’s not crazy or unhinged. Just kinda depressed I think. She’s also pretty smart - wealthy background (I think), stable family, went to a really prestigious university. Def not getting baby trapping vibes from her.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 02:55 PM
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Pretty much.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 02:48 PM
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I don’t disagree lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 02:42 PM
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Sometimes. Not sure if all IUDs are the same, but one of my exes had one and I could feel one of the wires/strings when I was fingering her.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 02:41 PM
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Possibly. Not sure how I’m going to proceed from here. She’s been very affectionate since we had sex. I still don’t think she’s in the right headspace to be dating so I think the morally right thing to do is stop seeing her unless she’s okay with just a FWB situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 02:40 PM
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Yes. I assessed the risks and proceeded anyway. There’s only one woman I’ve ever slept with in my life unprotected that I probably shouldn’t have bc I knew she was loose and unsafe, but this one doesn’t strike me that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 02:39 PM
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Weirdest date ever. Was our third and I could tell she had a lot on her mind. We talked through her job stressors, friendship stressors, and life stressors in general. Just not a very fun set of topics. By the end of the night I told her candidly and kindly that I wasn’t sure if she was in the right headspace to be dating rn because of everything on her plate. She started crying a little bit. I consoled her and we ended back at my place and hooked up. She spent the night. Also found out she had …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 02:22 PM
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On my third date. She’s in the bathroom. I can’t deal with this anymore. I need to let her go.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 01:57 AM
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There is no replacement feeling for the sensation of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 01:06 AM
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Because sex feels good? I can have sex without an emotional attachment.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 11:09 PM
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Well, that’s you. We all have different dating styles and strategies.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 09:02 PM
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Assuming you live in Houston, this is modern day dating. Everyone’s fucking and dating multiple people at a time, praying and hoping we’ll be each other’s top choice. I don’t think it’s the best strategy but I also don’t want to be the sucker dating one at a time when everyone else is multi dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 08:48 PM
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How old are you? Are you married?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 08:45 PM
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For all I know she’s sleeping with men in her roster. It is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 08:37 PM
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Dunno why you’re taking this so personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 08:30 PM
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Because I’m not really into both women. The one I’m sleeping with has issues. But she’s physically attractive. So we sleep together every 1-2 weeks. The other woman is someone who I’m kind of just passing time with. She has neurotic tendencies that kind of turn me off. But I’m trying to see where things go. I tend to end things with women prematurely, so my therapist has been encouraging me to stick this one through.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 08:08 PM
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Cool. You do you bruh.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 08:00 PM
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This is how dating in a major city works in 2023.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 07:57 PM
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Not yet. We’ve only done some heavy making out. I think at best maybe we’ll do some 3rd base shit tn but I don’t get the vibe she’s ready to have sex yet, which is fine. I have a FWB I slept with last night.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 07:51 PM
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Going on a third date today. Museum, dinner, and drinks. I hope she’s not as awkward as last time. But I can already tell I’m gonna have to put in some emotional labor. She texted me she had a really weird week. I’m sure we’ll discuss it where I need to listen to her and console her a bit. Like I thought last time, neurotic.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 07:40 PM
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They’re common here in my major city.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 03:42 PM
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Prolly makes sense for uneducated women or women who prefer shallow chit chat and pop culture topics. There are plenty of attractive, intellectual women who enjoy talking about deep topics.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 03:15 PM
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That’s capitalism baby. Give an idiot a megaphone and rack in those views (read: ad money) baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 03:13 PM
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I’d agree with this. I know of a couple women who are bookish, kinda nerdy, not very attractive, shy, anxious, etc and they don’t socialize much. They also tend to have less of a presence on social media like IG or TikTok where it’s looks and visuals based. Thus, no inbound, meaningful attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 03:12 PM
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I think it’s the women who are ugly but smart at the same time. They’re conscientious enough to know how they look and how disadvantaged they are in society as a result. So the attention they get from men who are likely unappealing to her falls on deaf ears, especially because these men are likely less educated/smart than her. They want a man who is somewhat of an intellectual, like them. But there are none for them. As a result, they become bitter, female versions of the men here who get no pla…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 03:01 PM
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It must suck to be a significantly below average looking woman in the west. You know you’re really unappealing when even the rampant simping in America doesn’t result in you getting even a tiny crumb of attention. Must suck. Pretty privilege is real.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 02:55 PM
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I always laugh when you see people with unpopular views or beliefs get called out by society at large and then complain about how oppressed they are because their viewpoints aren’t widely embraced. It’s sorta like when you see complete imbecile hill billy MAGA Trump thumpers from the Deep South who say the dumbest shit on interviews and are so confidently incorrect. But they think everyone else is wrong and dumb. There’s a small number of posters here like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 02:46 PM
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I know so many Asian women with internalized racism who only date white men and refuse to date Asian men unless these Asian men are very, very attractive. They go for some of the corniest looking white dudes that are clearly below her looks level. But they get boosted because of his skin color. These are also fairly shy/modest girls that you’d never expect to be easy to hook up with. But they’ll become pornstars for their white dates. I have a buddy who dates only Asian women. He tends to go for…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 02:36 PM
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How do introverted and extroverted babies differ in their behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 06:49 PM
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It’s more like any woman who doesn’t have “seeking ltr” only will likely be perceived as wanting casual sex only.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 03:00 PM
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High sex is def good but you need lube sometimes. Making out with a dry mouth also sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 02:23 PM
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Agree somewhat. Americans have a borderline unhealthy obsession with pets and anthropomorphize them too much to their pets’ own detriment, sometimes. The RP meme that women will become dog/cat moms instead of actual human parents is kinda true IMO. Having kids is too expensive, so they need to channel that nurturing energy somewhere else. Speaking as a dog owner myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 02:20 PM
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Ostensibly he’s tried this and other avenues but is striking out for one reason (maybe his looks) or another (maybe his social skills).
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 02:19 PM
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If I’m drunk and high, sure. But if I’m blazed out of my mind, I don’t get horny.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 02:17 PM
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Him: how to have casual sex? You: have it Loool
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 02:16 PM
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Idk how other men perceive that but men like me (seeking ltr but open to short) will perceive women like you as a casual lay and not ltr material. So there’s going to be some selection bias going on. As a man seeking an ltr I’d never pursue someone who’s blasé about their intentions for an ltr.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 02:15 PM
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This will work
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 02:13 PM
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Hard disagree on weed. I think weed can kill the vibes early on and it’s easy to get the ick bc you’re so overly analytical and stoned people tend to act kind of weird and dumb. The squinty blood shot eyes, wanting to eat snacks and lazily sitting on a couch, etc are not conducive to romance and sex imo lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 02:10 PM
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Yep, your situation is a bit different. I should have specified in my comment more for stranger / online date scenarios. I dont think women can reliably tell from a man within the first dates unless he’s super obvious about it. Must be tough.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 02:08 PM
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I think this is the only realistic answer. All the other replies here are exceptions to the rule that fall outside of typical dating norms/situations imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 01:56 PM
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What if he’s just lying?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 01:55 PM
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This is good, but I think more applicable to later on. I think introducing dates to friends within the first 3 dates is kinda a yellow flag actually (unless it happened organically or unplanned). If a woman I’m dating invited me to meet her best friend two dates in, I’d be like wtf?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 01:55 PM
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You’re too young to be here, let alone answering this question. 😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 01:44 PM
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No wonder
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 01:43 PM
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Forehead kisses within the first three dates is too much lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 01:39 PM
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How attractive are you on a scale of 0-10?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 01:38 PM
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Q4W: how can you tell early on (first 1-3 dates) whether a man is genuinely looking for an LTR or if he’s smooth and just tryna smash? And how does how attractive he looks factor into all this?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 01:27 PM
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Why do you keep getting banned, creating new accounts, and coming back, posting like a bot the same shit over and over and over and over. Good lord.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 12:33 PM
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Modern women have latent beliefs that men are bad, oppressive enablers of the patriarchy. So anything they do in service to men is seen as shameful. I think it’s a form of cognitive dissonance that gets expressed as hate towards men. Why else do TikTok thots go to the gym in scantily clad clothing showing their asses and cameltoes so they can film themselves doing hip thrusts with poor form for hundreds of thousands of men to lust after behind their screens while trying to catch men at the gym g…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 05:37 AM
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So the majority of men throughout history were literal incels (using the broad assumption that being unable to procreate loosely means they also couldn’t have sex, even casually)?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 03:58 AM
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I’m not sure how true this stat is, but apparently 80% of women and 60% of men to-date have reproduced. I wonder if what we’re seeing today in terms of dating woes is the vocalization and expectation from these 40% of men to be able to reproduce, too. Maybe in the past before we had the internet, social media, and dating apps, these men just silently suffered. And they accepted their place in the world. But today, everyone thinks they deserve someone, especially with dating apps. And everyone ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 03:45 AM
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Most women on this sub aren’t going to be the Staceys and Beckys that we all find attractive. There will be a disproportionate amount of average to below average looking women with poor(er) social skills, shyness/introversion/aloofness, etc. And same can be said for the men, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 03:35 AM
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Exact same rule here, too. And overweight/obese women simply do not do it for me. Even if one was DTF and I was super horny, I’d rather just jerk off.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 01:00 AM
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I can’t even imagine being so desperate and horny for sex that you sleep with unattractive women. I could never get aroused enough to sleep with an overweight/obese woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 06:15 PM
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Makes so much more sense now. I was surprised they were claiming how there aren’t any 80’s versions of loser men today when there clearly are, and in abundance, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 02:53 PM
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There are plenty of men today who fit the 80’s loser definition. How old are you and the men you want?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 02:28 PM
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Women have the sisterhood and are much much much less likely to call each other out. It’s one of the most toxic forms of femininity imo. It also is amplified by the fact that women tend to be more passive and indirect in their communications to each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 12:19 PM
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Given that women are much more sensitive to mental stimulation to get in the mood and feel horny, it’s entirely reasonable to posit that being super into their man will make it easier for women to cum. It’s perhaps not the most important factor, but it is one important one, assuming all other factors are equal. Just like how a man will have a harder time busting a nut to an ugly, fat chick, a woman would probably have trouble cumming from a guy she’s not attracted to or aroused by.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 11:04 AM
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Interesting. I only send likes to women who have good pics. Blurry, shitty pics are an instant X.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 03:21 AM
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I can’t recall ever being pleasantly surprised by a woman looking better than her pics.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 03:13 AM
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She doesn’t seem so antagonistic in her tone imo. Perhaps a bit misguided bc I agree with your logic for going younger. But she doesn’t come across as being militant about shaming age preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 03:10 AM
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If you hit the g spot and give her clit enough stimulation she can cum.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 02:51 AM
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Yes, I know women can do kegels to exercise more control over that. But I don’t think it’s true women can’t ever cum from PIV. And this isn’t some ploy to preserve my ego. I don’t put a lot of emphasis on sex and my sexual prowess, so it’s not that. But I do agree the vast majority of women cannot cum from PIV.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 02:49 AM
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Are you saying it’s literally impossible for 100% of women to cum from piv? I had one ex where I’d feel her vaginal walls contracting when she’d “supposedly” cum from piv, which is consistent with how women’s bodies react when cumming. I could feel her gripping my dick more tightly too. Maybe it was fake. But I’m inclined to believe it was real.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 02:42 AM
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For me, this would be a dealbreaker. I’m a pretty shallow guy though. And I like slim, toned women with tight bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 02:37 AM
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On average, agree. I’ve only had two exes that came easily from PIV. The rest cum more easily with fingering. The one ex who came rather easily was super down for me. So I think there’s a mental aspect as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 02:34 AM
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Gents, when you’re evaluating a woman’s dating profile, she will look at best as good as her worst pic. I hear from my female friends that for men it’s the opposite: they’ll look even better than their best pic.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 02:26 AM
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I work in stem and make half a mil, roughly. I want my partner to have little to no debt, be smart, have a college degree, relatively ambitious, and making six figures. Tryna build an empire here together. No broke women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 10:28 PM
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How do you explain the people who get cheated on out of the blue when they thought they found someone genuine?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 03:17 PM
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But how do you screen for that, at least early on?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 03:15 PM
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That sub is where I go from time to time to witness the wall in action.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 03:14 PM
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Yeah I agree with this assessment. It’s why I don’t understand the male obsession for virgins. I want someone who’s experienced enough partners to not feel FOMO, but not so much to the point where she’s reckless with sex and exercises poor judgment.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 03:11 PM
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I think the former is way worse and harder to recover from.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 03:10 PM
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Q4M: how do we filter out women who are likely to be cheating whores? Anything outside of obvious things, like being a past cheater or being a partier or someone in a high risk profession (eg bartender, sales, real estate agent, nursing, admin assistant)?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 03:09 PM
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But their laundry lists of requirements are a-okay because they don’t explicitly list them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 03:08 PM
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Yep, not a partier. Didn’t have a “hoe phase.” Smart, ambitious, typical nice/kind girl type.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 03:05 PM
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No, but cheating at 29 is way less understandable than cheating at 21.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 02:59 PM
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Yeah, it’s too common. I hope these cheating whores never find peace again.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 02:58 PM
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They were 29. Not young.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 02:56 PM
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I have a buddy who was cheated on by his would-be fiancée 7 years ago and he’s still not over it. Apparently she was the one. Relationship was solid as ever. Her parents loved him and wanted them to get married. He treated her right and was (and still is) a really solid dude. They had no issues. And he didn’t see it coming. Fuck man, it’s stories like that that scare me to death. You think you’ve found the one and then she commits the ultimate act of betrayal. Fucking A.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 02:46 PM
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If I continue to maintain my physique while dating someone, I expect her to as well. If I let myself go, she can too (if she wants), because otherwise I’d be a hypocrite.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 02:34 PM
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Probably a little bit still, yes, but much less so. They won’t perceive women as a potential creep / sexual threat.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 02:32 PM
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I’m a slim guy so I like slim women. I still go to the gym 2-3x a week and have 12% body fat and a slender, muscular build. I like women with slim, toned bodies (like the yoga build type). Thick women are a hard pass.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 02:30 PM
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Assuming you’re a man, it makes sense. Women will have their guards up when a strange man tries to make contact like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 02:24 PM
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I’m in my mid 30s and I’m most physically attracted to women in their early 20s but they repulse me from a maturity and life stage perspective. I could never date one seriously. That’s why I aim for the mid to late twenties women who still look good and take care of themselves. I have my apps set up to mid 30s women too but damn the majority of them have aged so poorly. Wrinkles, skinny fat builds with pear body shapes, dark circles, etc. I still get mistaken for being in my late 20s, but I fear…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 02:18 PM
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Any man who’s 40+ who finally cracks $100k in income after 18 years of work experience who thinks hot 22 year olds are gonna be clamoring for him is straight up DELUSIONAL. The only older men who do well are those who look remarkably young for their age, have full heads of hair, good looking (and were just as good looking when they were younger), fit and in shape, sociable, and have good jobs. In other words, the Chads of young will continue to be able to still be somewhat sexually successful as…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 02:08 PM
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Haven’t you heard of Schrodinger’s feminist? A modern woman is simultaneously oppressed and empowered. Then something happens to her and she chooses which state she’s in.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 12:23 PM
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How tf did the courts award her money when she’s wealthier?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 03:01 AM
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Cool, makes sense. Bc I was gonna clown you if it wasn’t something tied to weight loss. You’re either born good looking or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 02:12 AM
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How did you go from bad looking to good looking?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 02:08 AM
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Strong disagree the third bucket is only 5%, especially the older a woman gets. If she stuck it out that long not settling, she’s likely going to continue not settling.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 06:59 PM
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That’s from 14 years ago. I wonder if this still holds true to this extent. Would be an interesting follow up.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 06:52 PM
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Yeah, most of the attractive women I know who are used to getting male attention do want to get married and/or have kids. Exceptions would include those with trauma or difficult childhoods due to parents fighting/divorcing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 05:03 PM
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Agree. That’s why men send dick pics because they want to see full nudity pics from women. And that’s why women tend to send more suggestive pics instead of full nudity of their clam shells because they prefer the more mentally stimulating visuals. And that’s why women prefer “nudes” from men that show a bulge under his boxer briefs vs a straight up dick pic. That’s why women sell themselves as smart, ambitious, and successful - because that’s what they want. They’ll tout how they have advanced …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 01:38 PM
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Of the single women who end up chronically single because they can’t find a man who meets her requirements, it’d be interesting to see the breakdown of them into the following cohorts: 1) truly happy to stay single, 2) kinda neutral about it, 3) and very sad and or in despair because they want a family and or kids. Most women online today paint it as if the vast majority of them fit into bucket 1. It’d be interesting to see how those buckets shift as women get increasingly older, too. My best un…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 01:31 PM
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Not really. Any guy working at a major tech company or high powered finance job can clear 300k by their late 20s and early 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 04:00 AM
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If you live in a major city like NYC, DC, LA, SF, these men are way more common.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 03:53 AM
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Indeed. One repeat hookup I had would proudly tell me stories of how she’d get really drunk (she used to bartend) and hook up and be “very reckless.” She used to party and drink a lot and do drugs like shrooms and blow, etc. I remember we were exchanging embarrassing stories from our pasts and she proudly told me of how she got so shit faced drunk once when she was 21 or so and she shit herself at a party with friends in a desert. Lmao. She was great and enthusiastic in bed though and I really e…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 08:32 PM
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This is a great analogy. And it sounds like you’re enjoying your used car because it’s been reliable and a solid performer with no major electrical or mechanical issues. Maybe the paint is in decent condition, too. And it was within your budget. But sometimes you don’t get so lucky with the used cars unless you know what to look out for. Sometimes they have the CEL on but you didn’t notice it at first because they cleared the lights as a temporary “fix” before the sale. Sometimes it breaks down …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 08:26 PM
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Yep. Anecdotal, but I’ve never run into an issue with a woman getting mad or annoyed that I ask for her number. Hell, I’ve had many women willingly give me their numbers first because they want to text off of the app. You have to read the room and gauge her interest levels and text tonality. People are easy to read. Maybe these guys are asking too soon without building rapport. Too many men are socially inept and can’t read the room.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 06:10 PM
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It’s all about balance and moderation. Posting selfies and wanting to feel validated here and there are normal, human desires. I’m talking specifically about the population of women who are obsessed with fueling their narcissistic desires of constant, online attention from random people. It’s an illness. It’s like they post a thirst trap and the shot clock immediately starts ticking down until the next thirst trap needs to be posted because their egos and self worth are so tied to surface level …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 06:05 PM
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Feminine, attractive women are eager to give out their numbers to men they like being pursued by. I see a lot of desirable women on the apps complaining how guys DONT ask for numbers to move plans forward.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 05:53 PM
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I’m introverted at my core but I can turn on the extroverted sociability knob way high esp when I’m surrounded by other introverts who are shy. But when there are tons of other, more gregarious extroverted people, I blend in more subtly. No one would ever mistake me for a super outgoing extrovert extreme, but I’ve definitely surprised some people (mostly coworkers) by saying I’m an introvert by nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 04:00 PM
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Gross. I feel bad for her. Dude also lowkey looks like jack nicholson
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 03:53 PM
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You made the positive assertion that something happens. Thus the onus is on you to provide evidence of your claim. Are you saying when a man falls ill, it’s not standard practice for them to get interviewed as well? Only women are interviewed?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 03:08 PM
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Sorry, but you’re in the wrong. You asserted that men abandon women at a greater rate than the inverse. He said that’s not true, as studies and data don’t indicate that. You then said it is true based on your handwavey anecdotal evidence. The onus is on you to find data points that substantiate your claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 03:02 PM
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Someone else said this to describe feminism and women today and I think it’s spot on. It’s called Schrödinger’s feminism. A woman is simultaneously a victim/oppressed and empowered. And when something happens to her, she chooses which state to claim based on what would benefit her the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 02:54 PM
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You’re having an emotional reaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 11:35 AM
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I’ll just put it simply. I don’t know what you are like, if you’re pretty, and if your friends are pretty too. But we all know pretty girls who spend time taking hundreds and hundreds of selfies and pictures in a single photo session so they can pick the most absolute perfect one. That’s so unhealthy. A selfie session is not a professional photography session. The need to take hundreds of snaps of you making the same face in the same angle in the same lighting is not normal or healthy. You’d loo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 11:34 AM
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Sorry to hear
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 03:57 AM
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Why are you wasting your time on me?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 12:04 AM
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Now this is a more level headed response I’m happy to respond to in earnest. Which point did you want me to address? The part where you said we shouldn’t judge people for what they do in their free time? It wasn’t clear to me what your specific argument was.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 11:21 PM
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Worry? Try pity.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 11:01 PM
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You’re too young to be actively involved in this subreddit. You literally still take the school bus to go to school. Why are you on here?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 10:15 PM
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Yeah, I actually agree this is the more apt analogy. That’s why women tend to get hurt more by their partner having an emotional affair vs a one time sexual affair whereas for men it’s the opposite. I think this is also why women have their guards up when their partner has a female best friend he confides in deeply and emotionally with. Makes them very, very insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 10:05 PM
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accuses others of armchair psychology and does it herself by calling others depressed Nah, I just scrolled through your comment history and deduced you’re a raging feminist with an axe to grind against men. You’re basically a rusty hammer in search of a nail to smash at every opportunity. I’d be more impressed and inclined to debate with you if you demonstrated more emotional maturity and logical reasoning skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 09:59 PM
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These replies are so funny. Boils down to “well akshually, I don’t personally do this therefore no one else in the world does it either.” And no one is claiming 100% of women are like this. No one can claim 100% of women do anything except maybe drink water and breathe oxygen.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 09:55 PM
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Sooooooo jealous
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 09:41 PM
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I appreciate your opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 08:55 PM
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Saying they derive their self esteem from online attention is not the same thing as saying they have boring lives doing nothing all day.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 08:54 PM
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This is the type of woman I want to date and marry as well. I don’t want to bother with the headache and entitlement of a smoke show.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 08:07 PM
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Yeah, a random bikini pic here and there from a beach trip with friends or family is fine. She’s clearly just expressing her lifestyle in an earnest, authentic way. But there are tons of gorgeous, young women who are straight up intoxicated with the positive validation they get by posting thirst traps. Their egos are entirely built on a weak, fleeting foundation of a) digital attention from strangers and b) her looks, which will fade as she ages. I worry for these women as they age out of the be…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 05:10 PM
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Agreed. Unfortunately, too many men are shamed for expressing discomfort at their partners posting blatant thirst traps on social media. They’re called insecure and controlling. I don’t think any man can force his partner to do anything outside of her will. But if he expresses a boundary about this, she chooses to continue, and he dumps her, I bet dollars to donuts she’d tell her friends that she dumped HIM for being “insecure” and “controlling.”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 05:02 PM
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For sure. It’s an understandable coping mechanism. But when they become toxic and hate all men, it’s really just misplaced hatred that they have for themselves that they don’t know how to reconcile since they’re actively choosing to live said sex work lifestyle. It’s easier to blame men than take accountability for your situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 04:51 PM
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Yep, this works for you because you are in full control. If he all of a sudden changed his pw and denied you this ability without really rationalizing it other than “you’re being insecure; let me live my life. Trust me.” How would you react and feel?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 04:45 PM
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She’s just chillin
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 03:22 PM
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Ah my bad, I’m confusing you for someone else. I think it’s the poster named ainsley whatever who does. She posts a lot of sarcastic, sometimes funny non sequiturs.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 03:21 PM
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Idk bout your dog but your vibrator is prolly your second best friend
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 03:18 PM
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I haven’t kept track. But if I had to guess, maybe 30+ profiles over the past month or so. Not everyone has hundreds of posts to scroll through. You can easily piece together a person by a 1-2 minute scroll through of their posts, the subreddits, and their comments. Edit: I just scrolled through your comments for a minute and the only first impression I have is that you do try to debate with intellectual honesty, are able to be nuanced and seek it, and have a reasonably high EQ in that you’re wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 02:53 PM
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Right. Because women know men don’t get nearly the same amount of inbound, overt and explicit pleas for partnership that women do. But if she knew that gorgeous, single women were hitting him up CONSTANTLY, she’d try to lock his behavior down stat.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 02:48 PM
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Yes, this exactly, too. This desire to always be ostensibly available is mostly concentrated within the most attractive women who do have a semblance of being able to attract a lot of men, inclusive of some very high value men. An average, mid looking woman won’t bother. Because deep down she knows she won’t catch a Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 02:27 PM
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Just like how this community has tons of unappealing men (short, ugly, obese or too skinny, make little money, socially awkward, etc) who easily get upset at female standards because they don’t meet them, plenty of female equivalents exist as well. I’ve looked at the profiles of some female posters here to see what kinds of communities they post in to surface level gauge what kind of people they are. Here are some observations I’ve made: The most blatant misandrist, male hating and male toxicity…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 02:23 PM
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Agreed. People focus too much on the “what” of the action instead of the “outcome” of said action. It doesn’t matter what the behavior or action is: if it’s eliciting a response in the other gender that ostensibly poses a threat to your relationship, it’s reasonable to have an uncomfortable reaction to it. Imagine a woman dating a man who is interested in rock music. He forms a band and is the lead vocalist. They’re unknown for months. But all of a sudden he goes viral on TikTok after playing a …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 02:04 PM
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I think Leo is attracted to young women because he’s emotionally stunted and stuck at that age himself. There’s a decently credible theory that he was sexually abused by a male producer when he was in his late teens. He may have suffered trauma and is emotionally stunted at that age.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 01:52 PM
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R/WomenAndMales
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 01:45 PM
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If you’re going to make a post to honey pot posters to call them the p-word, at least use the correct word. Being attracted to 18 year olds is not the same as being a pedo. Being a pedo means you are attracted to literal children that have child like features. The word you’re looking for is ephebophilia, which is the attraction to late adolescents (canonically accepted as mid to late teens).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 01:41 PM
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You’re conflating economic output value with relationship/sexual value.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 01:35 PM
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This shit is always so tricky because women get so much plausible deniability with this type of content. And there’s no close male equivalent that would make them understand. But imagine if we asked in the abstract if women would be comfortable with their men posting content that is visually or emotionally stimulating to single women who are enthusiastically trying to sleep with or partner up with said men. It doesn’t really matter what the content is: it could be pictures of him with puppies. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 01:31 PM
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Young men are disillusioned by society and dating. They’re increasingly skipping college, increasingly sexless, and increasingly lonely. In parallel, they see the gynocentric rhetoric from society and media basically telling them all men are bad and to be wary of, paired with horrible experiences with online dating (since they’re not trying to date IRL). It’s the perfect concoction for them to turn to RP because it finally gives them answers for why they’re being left behind, how feminism is fuc…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 12:20 PM
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I’m 6’2” and I’ve noticed that the matches who tend to be the most enthusiastic in their convos with me are taller women. And more specifically women who are 5’10”. Short matches have an abundance of options since most men are taller than them and don’t necessarily feel “relieved” to match with someone taller. But tall women have slim pickings, especially if they also want someone taller than them. I think this is why I like dating women who are between 5’7 and 5’10”. Even mechanically things ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 02:02 AM
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It’s all fake virtue signaling. They’re all talk and no walk.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 01:52 AM
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The woke mob is insufferable. I have a minority female friend who joined it and on her TikTok she routinely shits on white men and calls them racial slurs with impunity. I don’t hang out with her anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 01:05 AM
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That’s why they say that new pussy is the best pussy. Which is a crude way of explaining the male biological urge to spread their seed.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 12:48 AM
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Both are different types of delusion. Tarot cards are simply pure nonsense and just random jibber jabber based on how a set of cards are pulled. People who make life decisions or alter their interpretation of their lives based on that are idiots. Dudes who obsess over nfts are delusional over the perceived monetary value of them. Women who believe in astrology and tarot card nonsense who feel defensive over their beliefs always point to fantasy football or sports or nfts or crypto as the male eq…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 12:41 AM
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I think if we had a globally calibrated rating scale by men, most would agree these chicks are mid. Ofc on an individual level your lens will vary. I’ve def noticed though that dudes who have an Asian girl preference simp for the most mid looking Asian girls. I don’t understand it but good for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 12:37 AM
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Any significantly older man pursuing you for being a virgin is a creep imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 08:41 PM
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I’d agree with that. I think most men here have a ridiculously high standard for low n count. Imo anything below 20ish is reasonable for someone in her late twenties. My ideal would prolly be lower than 10, but tbh I don’t ever ask about body count. I just go off of my judge of her character and how she seems to carry herself wrt sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 08:36 PM
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For women, I love UX designers or researchers. They tend to be feminine and empathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 08:23 PM
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Co-sign. There is a negative correlation between sexual enthusiasm/freakiness (lmao this originally autocorrected to creaminess) and attractiveness. The best sex I had was with an ex who was a 6. Man she was wild. I miss the sex we had. My last ex was a 7.5 and 8 on a great day. She was still good and vocal. But def less eager to please.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 08:18 PM
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Being neurotic and anxious at 18 is fine and expected. But hopefully that’s something someone grows out of by their mid 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 08:17 PM
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For you, sure. A porn star is repulsive. But this guy probably goes for chicks who are more used to promiscuity. He has clout. He’s famous. He’s wealthy. And he’s decent good looking and pulls off the masculine bald man look (sorta like Jason Statham). And he’s known to lay down pipe. I think you’d be surprised at how many women wouldn’t give a shit about his past as long as he has no STDs. On average, desirable women are way more forgiving about male promiscuity than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 08:15 PM
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Exactly. I don’t want to constantly be easing her mind or assuring that everything is going to be okay. It’s exhausting.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 06:54 PM
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I’ll just put it this way. This male porn star will be disqualified by a smaller % of women for his past vs a comparable female porn star. Making numbers up, maybe 50% of desirable women would find him and his past repulsive and reject him off the bat. But a female pornstar would be rejected by maybe 95% of desirable men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 06:53 PM
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Who cares what the reasoning is. The fact of the matter is a broke woman wants a rich man. Whether she works hard or doesn’t want to is irrelevant because the output (ie wealth) is different between them. When women chase celebrities and people with status, it’s the same thing. They’re seeking something they themselves don’t possess. But no one bats an eye or calls them hypocrites. Men who chase chastity while not being in possession of it themselves is just men doing what women do, but for the …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 06:41 PM
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I never said she was fat. She’s what we call skinny fat. Just doughy and no muscle tone. Not super fit. I’m a harsh critic on these matters because I’ve been going to the gym for 10+ years and have an athletic, somewhat muscular, low fat, toned build. I also watch what I eat. I prefer women with similar lifestyles and slim/slender/toned bodies. Like the canonical yoga chick build.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 06:36 PM
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It is sound logic. The broke woman who has no money wants a man who has money. This guy is a guy whos had a lot of partners (broke) and wants someone who hasn’t had a lot (wealthy). It’s desiring an attribute or quality that you yourself don’t possess. And men and women are different and value different things. But we men don’t screech and cry about hypocrisy when women who make less than us want men who make more. It just is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 06:31 PM
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When broke women say they want wealthy men, do we call them hypocrites?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 06:24 PM
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Mid means mid. 5/10. Not ugly, not pretty.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 06:21 PM
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I can tell she’s maybe 10 pounds overweight for her height, assuming she’s around 5’ to 5’4”. Her face gives it away and the way her thighs expand due to sitting down, I can tell. I’m not expecting all women to be petite. But I find petite women most attractive. That’s why she does nothing for me, even beyond her unremarkable face. A lot of guys would find her appealing, so this is just my personal type.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 06:21 PM
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Interesting. I don’t find her appealing at all. I don’t think I’d even be able to get it up for her bc she’s so bland. But I agree that personality matters a ton. I’ve definitely found myself crushing on coworkers I thought originally were not my type at all but after getting to know them and liking their personalities, grew to like them quite a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 06:19 PM
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She’s not fat but she’s marginally, slightly overweight. Her face is slightly chubby and her legs are disproportionately thicker than the rest of her body. She’s the male version of skinny fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 06:16 PM
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Yeah I know the feeling. I used to be moderately socially anxious in my early 20s but I’ve become much, much more outgoing and confident since then. A lot of people are shocked to hear that I’m an introvert when I tell them because I can be quite sociable and charming. But it’s exhausting af. I’m not so worried about her loosening up bc I know that’ll come with time. It’s more so that I’m picking up on a lot of neurotic energy from her and that she possibly has somewhat low self esteem. I’ll kee…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 06:13 PM
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Yep. These girls don’t do it for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 05:54 PM
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I like outgoing, bubbly confident women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 05:31 PM
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She’s not cute at all imo. She’s just average. Whenever a girl calls another girl cute, it’s code word for mid. When a woman thinks another woman is attractive in a way that a guy would also agree, she doesn’t describe her as cute lol. She describes her as pretty, gorgeous, hot, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 04:24 PM
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You misinterpreted. I said slightly older than 26 ie 27-29. Didn’t realize anyone in their 30s was technically older than anyone in their 20s. Forgot that in my math class.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 04:21 PM
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Yeah that’s what I’ve realized. The shyness is not that big of a deal. I can wait for her to break out of her she’ll. It’s her neuroticism that makes me wary. Being around neurotic people is exhausting because that energy is draining as you try to soothe them and talk them out of their anxieties.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 03:52 PM
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He has a fetish for Asian girls so he only dates them. Here’s an example I pulled from google images that represents the caliber he likes. I think she’s a solid 5. https://images.app.goo.gl/kTfqfAAYqUnAiru87
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 03:51 PM
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I have a buddy who’s highly extroverted and loves to socialize. He goes on 4-5 dates a WEEK. I can barely muster the energy for one a week. Anyway i know it’s a source of pride for him with the quantity. But when he shows me his dates, they are painfully mid. Good for him though that they get his rocks off. I could never.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 03:30 PM
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Add tarot card readings, spiritual rocks, and fortune telling. I simply do not understand how any sane, reasonable, logical person could believe in this shit. Though I guess one could say the same thing for any religion. I’m an atheist.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 03:28 PM
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Went on a second date last night. First date was drinks. For the second date, we got a quick bite. But she was so awkward/shy. Felt uncomfortable. So I took us to a bar I had reservations for already, but 1 hr earlier. Once she got 1-2 drinks in, completely different person. Could sustain eye contact for more than 1 second. Open body language. Became touchy feely with me. Way more fun and warm. Walked her home and we made out for a good 20 seconds or so. But damn. I can’t deal with the awkwardne…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 03:26 PM
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R/WomenAndMales
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 02:13 PM
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This is fairly common actually. Guys do it to themselves too, sorta. We’ll rest a hand on our crotches when lying on the watching tv. Idk why. It just feels natural lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 02:02 PM
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Yes it is on a micro level but we’re talking about attraction on a macro level. Society absolutely has macro level attraction ratings which means that a lot of people are going to have similar standards of beauty.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 01:27 PM
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I find it amusing how people get a knee jerk reaction to a quantification of attractiveness but are a-okay with more qualitative descriptors like “cute” or “above average” or simply “attractive.”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 01:12 PM
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A fat guy with an attractive face by default is not a 7. That’s like saying a morbidly obese woman with an attractive face could be a 10. She can’t. And you can’t have an attractive face when you’re overweight anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 12:57 PM
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Just saw a hinge profile of a grossly overweight woman (her listed height is 5’6” and I imagine she’s over 200 pounds) saying she wants to date “a 7 that keeps her laughing.” I know that’s kind of a meme saying going around since I’ve seen it on many profiles. But she seems semi serious. And it’s not like self deprecating humor either bc all her pics are of her glammed up in makeup and fancy dresses, posing at fancy places. The goddamn delusion, smh.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 11:30 AM
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He’s blowing up on TikTok and it’s cascading back to YT. He brings on girls from college that have more mainstream appeal, so I can see why he’s resonating with other men. But goddamn the girls are so dumb and young. He’s also not that engaging of a speaker so I think his show’s quality isn’t as great. The girls often look bored af. I really wish we could watch some debates with more mature, logically sound women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 03:14 AM
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I think it’s purely the sex drive differential.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 03:03 AM
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That was definitely hyperbolic on my end, but I think most people seeking romance are finding it much harder than they expected. And there's a lot of discontent, especially from the people who rely on online dating, which is currently far and away the most popular way people meet today.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 01:59 AM
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CMV: for as long as men have more testosterone than women, women in aggregate will always have the upper hand in the dating marketplace. And only the top 5% of men will be having fun. But the majority of both sexes will languish in misery.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 01:44 AM
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This is so true. I had to cancel a date on Friday for a legitimate reason/emergency. She never responded. I told her yesterday more details about it and then she believed me. She then came over and we hooked up (we’ve been sleeping together for a month or so). Afterwards she told me that on Friday when she got my text, she didn’t know what to make of it and asked her friends. They all said I was a lying sack of shit and that she should go out with them to party, get drunk, and meet guys. The sis…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 09:42 PM
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CMV: people who believe in astrology and make life decisions (like who to date) based on them are idiots and lack critical reasoning skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 07:05 PM
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Cool. As long as you’re consistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 05:02 PM
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I disavow yo mama jokes. Do you disavow short men jokes? And are you okay with men making fun of women with excessive labia majora folds under the name of “it’s just a joke?”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 04:59 PM
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I knew you’d cut and run, which is why I made sure to ask you to directly answer my last question about short men insults and fat women insults. If you can’t see why yo mama jokes aren’t the same as women shitting on all short men for being inferior in some way, you’re part of the problem. Great job perpetuating toxic femininity and being a perpetual victim. Better luck next time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 04:55 PM
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I gotta ask: all men, literally? Or do you mean most men?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 04:46 PM
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Autistic folks tend to be noticeablysocially awkward in their mannerisms. I don’t take their social gaffes personally. We’re talking about non-neurodivergent people.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 04:45 PM
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Yo mama jokes are not the same. Yo mama jokes have existed as a cultural meme for decades. Are they about women? Yes. But do women at large actually feel personally insulted when people make them? Doubtful. Link me to a Twitter thread that shows men making jokes about fat women in general and how they’re less worthy as human beings AND where they get tens of thousands of likes and retweets. A woman saying “short men below 5’10” should stop existing” should be met with the same condemnation as a …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 04:43 PM
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Spot on dude. Such a relatable experience for so many men in modern times. I think it’s because the gynocentric culture and society we’ve been living in for the last 10+ years has a lot of women drunk on power. Men definitely oppressed women back in the day. And those men should be called out and shamed. But the pendulum has swung way too fucking far and modern women are, again, drunk on power and only see things through this lens of the patriarchy and how they’re constantly oppressed and how wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 04:33 PM
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Because I selfishly also got a lot of utility out of it. But after some major life events and changes in priorities, said utility is no longer valued.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 04:22 PM
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Co-sign. I don’t take seriously men who can only hook up with average to below average women. It’d be like listening to a man who makes $35,000 a year how high income jobs work and how to get one.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 04:20 PM
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Mansplaining and gaslighting are words that have lost all meaning because of how loosely and flippantly people use them to invalidate men for any perceived issue. A man telling you he’s upset at XYZ thing you did is not gaslighting. A man explaining his side of an issue is not mansplaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 03:53 PM
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How old are you, out of curiosity? Because I had your exact same mindset in my 20s and for the same reasons you stated. But as I got older, I just couldn’t stand it anymore. These people end up becoming emotional/energy vampires. They just take take take.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 03:52 PM
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I never saw it that way and now you’re making me reconsider what I said. In retrospect, I really was parroting a feminist/female talking point almost word for word lol. As I read your comment, it did make me realize that that is the most common experience I’ve heard from my guy friends. They end up becoming stoic and shutting down, like a mute, and then the girlfriend complains that he’s stonewalling her or not opening up. Little do they know is it’s because whenever they do talk or argue or wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 03:48 PM
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Agreed. I think only 5-10% of people I meet (men and women) are not conversational narcissists. When I was younger, I befriended a lot of people by doing what you do. It makes them feel good, like they’re being “seen” and listened to. As I got older, I got tired of the one sidedness of this and have a zero tolerance policy for it. Which sucks because like I said, most people are like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 03:32 PM
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The problem is when we turn a blind eye to it, next thing we know, we end up exactly where we are: a gynocentric tone that frames mainstream social discourse.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 03:31 PM
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I’m about to dump a good friend of 10+ years because of this. We’ve been having lots of bumps lately. He keeps accusing me of being selfish and not prioritizing our friendship. Little does he know is it’s because I don’t find hanging out with him rewarding. So I am not prioritizing it. That’s true. But the irony is it’s because I think HE’S selfish.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 03:28 PM
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I’m about to dump a good friend of 10+ years bc of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 03:26 PM
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To be fair, I do think so many men lack healthy outlets to deal with their emotions, so when they end up in a relationship, they too often end up treating their girlfriends like their therapists. More men need to seek actual therapists. I’ve been seeing one for years and I love it. It’s so freeing to be able to dump your shit on someone who’s paid to listen and give advice lol. I haven’t had too many experiences with women trauma dumping on me, fortunately. But I’m also older than you and I imag…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 03:22 PM
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Real talk, this was one of the primary reasons why I dumped my last ex. It’s also one of the first things I notice in women on first dates. If I get a whiff of this I next them in my mind and only see them casually, like the one I’m “seeing” rn. It’s funny because I see so many women complain about men being like this on dates, how they won’t shut the fuck up about themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 03:08 PM
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Q4W: do y’all have any friends that are conversational narcissists? IE they’re happy to talk at length about their stuff while you actively listen and engage meaningfully, but check out when it’s your turn to talk? If so, how do you deal with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 03:02 PM
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Fair point. Too many men out there who turn a blind eye because all they can see is pussy. The difference between the sisterhood and the brotherhood (or lack thereof).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 02:55 PM
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When men shame women for their preferences (whatever they may be, realistic or not, hypocritical or not), women say “why should I settle for something that won’t make me happy?” Men should use that same line for any preferences they have (whatever they may be, realistic or not, hypocritical or not). Watch the meltdown in reaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 02:53 PM
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It’s truly fascinating to me how these social media platforms so blatantly allow body shaming against men but not against women. I think this is one of the clearest examples of how gynocentrism has hijacked the rules of public discourse in America and sets them accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 02:47 PM
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The worst first world frustration is getting stuck in the left lane behind a slow driver and not being able to bypass them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 02:45 PM
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Give someone a mask and they will show you who they truly are.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 02:43 PM
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Fair enough. I’m trying to figure out where you draw the line.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 02:36 PM
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Would men get canceled for tweeting jokes about fat women and excessive labia majora folds?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 02:34 PM
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R/WomenAndMales
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 02:32 PM
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Ok, so now I think you’re back pedaling because previously, you established a choice is a choice regardless of how or why one arrived at said choice. So then if a man is not able to have sex due to social anxiety, it’s not a choice per your redefined logic?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 02:26 PM
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Gotcha, so you’re just defining the literal definition of making a choice, agnostic of whatever factors went into making said choice. Fair enough. I can give you that. A choice is a choice. So if a woman is chronically single because she has paralyzing social anxiety and never leaves her house, we can simply say her being single is her choice? Fwiw, if someone is asexual bc they have no sex drive, I think that’s totally valid to say it’s due to choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 02:09 PM
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*fewer, not less.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 12:25 PM
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Inaction due to fear is not really the same because it implies they otherwise would’ve taken action if not for said fear. Example: not reporting a sexual assault to the police out of fear. I don’t think we’d tell those women they were making an empowered choice. And if a man were to casually shrug off the validity / seriousness of an SA accusation by saying the victim in question didn’t file a police report as “she made her choice not to,” there would be huge moral outrage.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 12:17 PM
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Curious how she’ll try to dodge this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 12:01 PM
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It kills me when fitness “influencers” go to the gym, practically naked with their skin suits, to film themselves for millions to see and stare. But any man at the gym that even so much as glances at her is a creep. Make it make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 11:55 AM
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Brian from whatever can’t host very well. He also isn’t very articulate and struggles to convey his thoughts very clearly. Overall, he’s a bit awkward and you can tell that the girls get bored since he doesn’t have any presence and no one really listens to him until they’re actively being addressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 11:51 AM
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IG is the biggest dating app in the world. Has been for many years.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 05:17 AM
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The market has spoken, you’re right. And I think most people on the apps on balance are unhappy with how dating plays out in this day and age. That’s a problem. I think my proposal is a potential solution. Whether people will want to invest 30 minutes to answer some dating preference questions is a different story.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 01:21 AM
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I think my meta point (which I didn’t articulate at all) is I wish we could reduce this information asymmetry as much as possible by putting some of these preferences out there more publicly. It’d save a lot of people a lot of time and wasted effort. I remember OkCupid back in the day had a ton of questions you could answer, ranging from your views on sex, marriage, kids, politics, gender/dating norms, etc that would allow you to really get a decent sense of who someone was off rip. Now it’s all…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 01:15 AM
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What percentage of female celebrities marry normies and what percentage of male celebrities marry normies? And by normies, I presume we mean people with no meaningful social status. So that should exclude IG models, people with blue check marks, and so forth. I also expect more male celebrities to marry normies than woman. Way more. And on its face, I’ll agree with you that desiring something highly unattainable is not delusional so long as you have zero shred of expectation that you should be a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 01:03 AM
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Why do you think I’m arguing that literally no one in the history of humanity hasn’t resorted to eating non-food? The point is that that’s not the ideal method of satiating hunger. Are you being purposefully dense? You think you’re making some smart claim as if you caught me in some gotcha. You didn’t. And eating grass is not nearly the same as eating rubber. Get a grip.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 12:55 AM
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Yes. And we’re not talking about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 12:44 AM
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Birds of a feather flock together.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 12:37 AM
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I agree with this. What you’re basically saying is that when someone likes you enough and is SUPER interested, barring doing or saying something fucked up, you’ll get a ton of leeway and benefit of the doubt. The challenge with modern dating and online apps is that it’s quite rare to get THAT excited and interested in your matches off rip. Many people start off lukewarm and hit it off after the fact and end up having amazing relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 12:34 AM
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It is reasonable to consider his standards delusional because an implied component of your standards is this belief and hope that said person will want you back. Why would the model want him? It’s delusional just like it’s delusional for me to want to marry a celebrity woman. Why would she want me?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 12:13 AM
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I wasn’t being literal with the income. My point is that sometimes people (men and women) can have standards that are not realistic for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 11:56 PM
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For sure, that’s a good point. They just shouldn’t bemoan the lack of $500,000 jobs that don’t employ them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 11:38 PM
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No one should be forced to settle, you’re right. But if you keep failing to attain what you want, that’s a clear sign you’re not able to command it. You can want a $500,000 job all day long and keep applying. But if you never get called for interviews or even get offers, that should tell you something. But yeah, don’t settle, Queen.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 11:34 PM
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If you are able to get married to the man/woman who meets your standards, by definition you are not delusional because you were able to attain said standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 11:29 PM
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One of the most challenging aspects of navigating online dating as a man is the sheer heterogeneity in courtship preferences women have. One woman may prefer to message back and forth and make small talk for a week or two in order to build comfort before agreeing to a date. Another woman would fucking hate that and get bored after 3-5 messages and dip. For first dates, one woman may prefer fancy, “high investment” dates like nice dinners or cooking classes. And asking her out to coffee or ice cr…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 11:26 PM
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I think 10 years ago, I would’ve disagreed with you. But in 2023, 100000000000%.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 11:09 PM
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Wtf, this is a thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 11:05 PM
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Gotcha. As long as you find them attractive, makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 10:59 PM
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When a broke, overweight, jobless man who lives on unemployment says he doesn’t want to date anyone except a Victoria’s Secret model because only that will make him happy, we tell him he’s delusional for the most part. Now, as long as he doesn’t complain about how said women don’t want him back, then sure. Set your standards however you want under the name of “that’s what’ll make me happy.” But the moment you complain you’re not attaining said standards in partners and you start blaming society …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 10:56 PM
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Does it feel good to get attention from average guys even when you know you’d never be interested in them? When average girls give me attention, it does absolutely nothing for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 10:50 PM
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The downvote bridge from said women has commenced on my comment. Guess I struck a nerve in some folks.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 10:36 PM
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Cool, happy for you
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 09:08 PM
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Good on you. I’m 34 and my dating apps are flooded by likes by women in their 30s. Problem is, they look noticeably old and I don’t find them appealing as the women in their mid to late 20s. I also lowkey have some very minor resentment towards not being good enough for them when I was in my 20s, so there’s definitely a sense of “why should I settle for you when you didn’t want to settle for me during your peak.”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 08:41 PM
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I was not as successful romantically as I am now when I was in my mid 20s. It’ll get better as you become more confident, refined in your looks, and make more money.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 08:28 PM
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Never said it was universal. Merely suggested it was common enough to be noticeable.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 08:27 PM
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Yes, I do too. And they tend to be the most chronically single, jaded, unhappy women. Because what they demand they cannot command. So they grow very bitter and hate men for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 08:27 PM
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I think it’s a stretch to call them narcissists. It is light manipulation, yes. But that’s what I don’t get - what are they getting out of it? Attention from someone they don’t want doesn’t seem very fulfilling. I’m obviously projecting my own interpretation of how I perceive similar attention I get. It does nothing for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 08:24 PM
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Pretty girls in their early 20s are at their literal peak in terms of sexual / dating value. It makes sense they’d be super selective and demand everything to be in their terms. It’s no different than a Chad being able to get things on his terms. If one girl doesn’t want it, he can next her in an instant and line another one up in a jiffy. TLDR: people with power behave accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 08:07 PM
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No, I’m not talking about friends. I’m talking about guys she knows are into them (come on, women are smart and especially socially smart; they can tell when a guy likes them).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 08:04 PM
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It’s a common belief and saying that women love attention, even from men they don’t necessarily desire romantically. I don’t understand this. When women I’m not interested in give me attention, I don’t want it at all. The only attention I want is from women I want. Yet it seems some women are content to hang out and talk with guys they have no romantic interest in. They’ll text the guy when they’re bored, etc. Really odd to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 07:52 PM
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Post nut clarity is a real thing. I’m a relatively LL guy so I’m not very sex hungry. But when I’m dating someone new, if we have sex before I develop an emotional connection (most often the case), it more than often jeopardizes the relationship because there’s a dissonance in my brain of “wait we’re having lots of intimate sex, but I don’t feel anything for her emotionally” and then I tend to withdraw.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 07:09 PM
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I think this mindset is only common amongst younger 20s girls who are objectively attractive and get a ton of attention. If they don’t find a perfect guy by their late 20s, they’ll change their tune and “settle.”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 07:07 PM
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Hmm, it’s hard to tell where this will go long term based on all this. It sounds like you guys have had sex maybe more than once? Or has it just been once? At this point, you just need to monitor his behavior and communication. The key point is consistency. If he’s no longer consistent with how frequently he texts, sets up plans, the level of investment, etc, then that’s your sign that he’s not seeing you more than a casual thing. TLDR: look for consistency. Good luck!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 06:44 PM
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These people need to be called out at large when they misbehave. Shaming has its place in society, esp when these people are behaving in dangerous ways or promoting very dangerous rhetoric.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 06:41 PM
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Most Americans are fat, regardless of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 06:36 PM
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Some of the bad faith, inflammatory takes I see here are mind boggling. To think that these people genuinely believe they’re promoting and suggesting reasonable, realistic, logical takes just blows my mind. How does one’s mind become so warped? It’s frightening.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 06:35 PM
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Sure. But all else being equal, I’m sure they’d have preferred to eat real food.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 06:17 PM
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Gotcha. Going back to your story, I don’t understand the chain of events. You told him the “I take sex seriously” line before sex? How long before sex? Need more context. If you give a more detailed play by play and how this guy is behaving now I can give you a really good insight into how he might be thinking as a straight guy in a major city who dates around.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 06:16 PM
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Idk if I’m confusing you with someone else but are you the person who posted about a guy inviting you to his place for a second date because the weather was bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 06:09 PM
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I’m gonna use your tactics. When you deny men’s need for sex, you’re promoting the death of these men because some of them go on to take their lives. You’re promoting the erasure of sexually frustrated men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 05:26 PM
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Define for me what I mean by “real” You continue to think you’re being so clever.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 05:21 PM
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But not everyone needs to live in order for humankind to keep existing, right? I’m using the argument you keep using. Not everyone needs to procreate for humankind to persist. Not everyone needs to eat for humankind to exist. You saying that’s me saying I’m promoting mass genocide and eugenics is hysterical.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 05:20 PM
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Don’t put words in my mouth. You set up a semantic trap in bad faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 05:14 PM
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Because you’re (purposefully?) picking and choosing the definition of “real sex” that’s convenient for you. What does real sex even men? The obvious point was that straight men prefer sex with women. That’s not to say that all other types of sex are invalid or bad or not real. You’re drumming up hysteria over a false premise and continue to show how you debate in bad faith. You’re one of the worst. I legitimately think you are a bad human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 05:10 PM
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That’s fucked. Why is that? Is there nuanced, well thought out legal reasoning that justifies why this is the case? Or is this one of those “it just is” double standards men face in the law?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 04:54 PM
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It’s definitely prevalent amongst the younger generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 04:52 PM
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We need to be more nuanced. Sex at the societal and humankind level is a need for the species to persist. Sex at the individual level is not a need if we define need as something required for survival. You won’t die from not having sex. But if we define need in terms of Maslow’s hierarchy of needs, for instance, sex can be considered one of the base level needs in order to have a fulfilling, self actualized life. Having a rich, socially fulfilling social network is not a need for life. But it’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 04:49 PM
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My take on this is that because way more men are actual rapists than women who make false claims, it’s reasonable as to why society and the law tend to err on the side of believing the woman to start. That’s what makes this crime so difficult because absent any indisputable evidence, like camera footage, it’s so hard to prove. It’s a he said she said game. That’s a very dangerous setup.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 04:45 PM
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Do women get the equivalent harshness in punishment for false rape/SA accusations as men who are actually convicted of said crimes? If not, they should.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 04:43 PM
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The only prevalent double standard men somewhat have is with casual sex. People don’t shame and or silently judge men for being promiscuous at nearly the same rate and intensity as they do for women. But this is slowly turning with the popular adoption of negative slang like fuck boi.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 04:38 PM
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Has it happened at least once or more in real life? Yes. Just like some horny, sex starved men engage in gay sex, too, in extreme circumstances, like prison. But that’s not the point. We’re not talking about literally whether these things happen. We’re talking about whether these are reasonable solutions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 04:35 PM
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You’re in desperate need of dunking on and silencing men who complain about lack of sex. Why not just find them IRL and chop off their fingers so they can’t type, gouge their eyes out so they can’t see, and rip out their tongues so they can’t speak. Or why not just murder them. This would achieve your goal, yes? They would stop whining about lack of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 04:32 PM
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This is spot on. I routinely go on dates with objectively attractive women, and yeah they’re nice to look at and sleep with, but if I don’t like their personalities, I don’t see them as anything more than casual hookups. Id much rather date seriously a cute, but fits-my-personality/character-preferences girl because I can form an emotional attachment with them. Obviously the holy grail is someone who is attractive and “cool,” but the more attractive they are, the more entitled and narcissistic t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 04:25 PM
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Women in high finance IME tend to be insanely materialistic and elitist.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 03:58 PM
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She’s looking for a fat $2 tip
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 03:54 PM
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You’re trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 03:52 PM
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For a straight man, yes, real sex is between a man and a woman. Whether those men can or cannot hook up with less desirable women is not the point. And a straight man not wanting to have sex with another man is no different than a starving child not wanting to eat socks for breakfast.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 03:48 PM
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Ah, I see. I understand your Socratic question now. That completely flew over my head. My apologies.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 03:44 PM
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When people are starving for food, they don’t eat non-food to satiate themselves, which is the equivalent of what you suggest. A sexually frustrated and horny, straight man might hook up with a woman he’s not attracted to. But that doesn’t mean he’d override his sexuality and sleep with men. That’s like telling a starving kid in Africa to eat literal sand. It’s incompatible with the goal at hand. Another bad, sensationalist take from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 03:40 PM
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Honestly it is SO refreshing to see a woman call out another woman here. I always appreciated your takes and demeanor here. And now I respect you so much more. One of my biggest gripes with modern women and feminism is their reluctance to call each other out. Kudos to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 03:38 PM
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I made an assertion. You called me out. I responded back in good faith trying to understand your credibility on the topic and gave you a polite opening to correct me. I’m not an expert on LLMs but my job gives me a ton of exposure to them. But you deflected and then got mad and called me a novice babbling nonsense. What field in tech do you work? Are you a software engineer or someone in IT? Do you use AI in your work and have experience working with machine learning models? Do you know what pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 03:15 PM
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Ad hominems: the hall mark of someone with compelling arguments and understanding of the subject matter at hand. Sorry my questioning you made you lash out.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 03:08 PM
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Can you explain to me why LLMs can often output weird, nonsensical outputs?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 03:03 PM
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The limitations and issues we see in LLM output for these edge cases is because it’s not trained on large enough data for these hyper nuanced queries. So it makes a best guess on what you’re looking for, which can be incredibly off the mark. When you ask it very basic, everyday type questions, it can be pretty coherent. But once you start asking it questions that go outside it’s training data set, it will spit out bad information. All a LLM does is make predictions (huge simplification).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 02:57 PM
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Can you educate me then on where my thinking is flawed? I’m not sure if we’re disagreeing on how we’re interpreting key terms, like inference, or if I’m actually fundamentally misunderstanding the limitations of LLMs. I’m not being snarky. Would love to hear your take.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 02:52 PM
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This will turn into a philosophical debate. Do you work in tech and AI? Curious what your professional background is before I proceed or leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 02:43 PM
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Do people even understand that ChatGPT is a large language model, so it basically regurgitates what other people have written? It’s not really synthesizing new information and making it’s own inferences and unique conclusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 02:26 PM
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I think in general, outside of the Deep South, people who are unattractive tend to lean more liberal and vice versa. I have a lot of theories as to why.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 02:24 PM
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Everything comes down to supply and demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 02:11 PM
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Not bad. How old are you? Sounds like you work at a tech company. I make more than you but I’m probably older than you based on your pics. You look to be in your mid to late 20s, which means you’re doing great for your age.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 02:06 PM
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What is your net worth?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 01:29 PM
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How much money do you make?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 01:19 PM
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https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2019.00544/full
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 03:52 AM
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I will concede there is an inconsistency there, but I’m not sure how to explain why straight women tend to be so repulsed by supposedly straight men fucking other men. I think for them it’s because it negates his masculinity in a sense? It might be latent homophobia as well, who knows. But you can’t compare straight women fucking men against men fucking other men. They are different sexual orientations.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 11:38 PM
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Men don’t care when their partner sleeps with other women nearly as much. It’s not a threat to their sexuality and paternity as much because women can’t get each other pregnant. You can’t compare straight women fucking against gay men fucking. It’s an invalid comparison dude. Come on. You must be being intentionally obtuse. There’s no way your brain actually perceives this as a valid comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 11:30 PM
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Men who actually get sex don’t talk like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 11:27 PM
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They’re the extreme minority here most likely.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 11:22 PM
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You can’t compare heterosexual women having sex with men against homosexual or bisexual men having sex with men. Do you not see how this isn’t a fair comparison?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 11:20 PM
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Men tend to actually overinflate their looks and truly, genuinely believe it. When most modern women say they’re 10s, they’re mostly talking about having confidence in who they are as people. But deep down they know they’re not perfect 10s physically.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 11:17 PM
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Normally I’d agree but she said “cute” and said she likes to take things slow. She wouldn’t have that last part if she wasn’t into him somewhat. Since it’d be useless info to impart if she was truly uninterested.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 11:08 PM
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Are you a conventionally attractive girl with good social skills and a decent social circle? If so, you’re likely in a bubble of similar men and women. This sub represents the bottom 60% of men who are invisible to most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 10:58 PM
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You will absolutely lose strength, but not as much as you think. Again, do you want impressive lift numbers or do you want to date more successfully? Decide how you proceed from there.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 10:56 PM
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Perfect. Keep doing what you’re doing. It seems to be working for you and her.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 10:54 PM
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Figure out your goals and priorities. If it’s to look most physically attractive to women and date more successfully, the shredded 150 is the way to go.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 10:54 PM
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Listen to her. She represents most straight women’s thoughts on this. And +1 to the analogy being really bad. It’s apples and oranges.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 10:52 PM
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This. Most straight women are repulsed by the thought of their man fucking another man or getting fucked by another man. The women here are not the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 10:51 PM
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You took that as rejection? That’s reads like she’s shy and likes you too, to an extent, and is willing to keep dating while taking things slowly. That’s good (if you are okay with waiting a long time for sex; a lot of men here won’t keep seeing someone if she doesn’t have sex by the third date. Don’t be that guy).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 10:47 PM
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20% bf is a lot for a man. Ideally you want to be in the lower teens to be decently cut. That’s when you start to lose facial fat. Facial fat tends to be the last to go.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 10:44 PM
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How tall are you and how much do you weigh? Edit: you look overweight. I can see all the excess fat in your cheeks. Lose weight. I’m not trying to be a dick. I’m giving you the most brutal advice you need to hear to get results.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 10:40 PM
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You’re telling me there are no communities of autistic people that come together to mingle?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 10:38 PM
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In that case I encourage you to date autistic women. Do you know of any communities near you where autistic people mingle?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 10:37 PM
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Bro I am sorry but I’m going to be blunt and give you the harsh reality. Facially, you’re maybe a 4-5 out of 10 because it’s chubby. If you lose weight, I could see you turning into a solid 5.5 facially. Youre still average looking enough that you could attract some women with a killer personality. But I mean a killer one that’s oozing with charisma, confidence, and easy goingnesss. You have to radiate positivity, fun, and a “I don’t care what people think about me” attitude but without being co…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 10:36 PM
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Sorry your own logic broke your brain. Better luck next time with your bad takes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 10:09 PM
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Not everyone needs to survive and live for humanity to persist. As long as some humans eat food and live, humanity will continue. Thus, food is not a need for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 10:01 PM
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I knew you were gonna cut and run again when I used your own logic of “not everyone needs to eat for humanity to survive” on ya. Better luck next time!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 09:57 PM
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The moment she transitioned to a man, he started oppressing women via the patriarchy. So his account is null and void.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 09:43 PM
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This is great. I remember watching this a while back. I like Anna Akana. She has good, balanced takes. And I like how she doesn’t shy away from calling out her own gender’s flaws. I think one of the most toxic traits of modern women is their reluctance to call each other out. The sisterhood trumps all.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 09:42 PM
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What if poopy
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 09:34 PM
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Did you know that humans don’t need to eat food to survive? Food is not a need, so we can stop working to solve world hunger. Because as long as some people have food and survive, humanity will continue.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 09:30 PM
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Oh you don’t like it when I use your own tactics? Sex isn’t a need for humanity to survive just like food isn’t a need for humanity to survive. Only a select few people need to eat food for the human race to persist.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 09:08 PM
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Eating food is not a need. You said it was. You can get the nutrients from food from an IV. Thus eating food itself is not a need.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 09:05 PM
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It’s not a need. You can just get nutrients from an IV. You can easily survive without eating or drinking this way. Therefore not a need. Eating food is not a need, it’s simply pleasure seeking behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 08:58 PM
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Humans also don’t need to eat food or drink water to survive. They can just hook themselves up to IVs with nutrient bags to survive. Humans just eat and drink for pleasure, not to live.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 08:52 PM
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I’m not surprised. They’re selfish fucks who couldn’t care less about how their nasty habit impacts those around them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 08:42 PM
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Oh, so we override biological imperatives to achieve vanity, hedonistic goals?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 08:36 PM
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I fucking hate cigarette smokers who smoke while walking on a sidewalk, making us all inhale their shitty second hand smoke. Selfish fucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 08:33 PM
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Why do humans go on diets to lose weight when humans eat food to survive? Why do they purposely starve themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 08:31 PM
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Yeah. If you don’t care about height it stands to reason you won’t notice it. As an analogy, I don’t give a shit about designer handbags so I won’t notice what fancy shit women are carrying.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 08:29 PM
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I’m 6’2” and if a 5’8” guy told me with a straight face he was 6’ I’d laugh at him and ask to pull out the measuring tape. How tall are you? I’ve noticed this height blindness tends to concentrate amongst really short women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 08:26 PM
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Irrelevant question. Next.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 08:24 PM
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A 5’8” dude saying he’s 6’ is a joke. That’s noticeable to anyone. The most you could lie by is maybe one inch.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 08:21 PM
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Sex is a need. Humans have sex to reproduce. By reproducing, humanity continues.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 08:20 PM
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You’re right. Sex is not a need. Because we can just stick needles in men’s testes, extract the sperm, and jab it into women’s fallopian tubes so they can conceive. I forgot that that was the easiest, best way for humans to survive on a mass scale. Your pedantry is not impressive. You thought you ate. You didn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 08:14 PM
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Sex is pleasurable precisely because it incentivizes us to seek it out so we can reproduce. Another form of pedantry that doesn’t even hold up to basic logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 08:11 PM
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I feel bad for these men. How could you possibly think no one would notice you’re lying about your height when you exaggerate by that much. That’d be like me saying I’m 6’6” and hoping no one notices. Idiots. They make it worse for all men. You should ask them to participate in a height measuring exercise. See what stupid excuses they come up with.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 08:09 PM
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Sex is a need for the human species to continue. Sex is a means to an end: reproduction. That’s not the same as saying every man needs to have sex to survive themselves as if if they don’t have sex, their dicks will shrivel off and they’ll spontaneously combust and die. Again, weak minded. Because you are a rusty broken hammer constantly trying to smash out nails that look like men begging for sex. And in said pursuit, you won’t accept basic biological truisms and instead choose to be pedantic a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 08:05 PM
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No they are the same thing. Because every act of sex results in reproduction. 1 sex = 1 conception = 1 pregnancy = 1 birth of 1 or more babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 08:00 PM
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I do agree with that. As long as the rate of reproduction exceeds the rate of death, humanity will survive. But that’s not the point. The point is that we all have DNA that hardwires us to want to procreate. Sure, some are relentlessly childfree for their own reasons. But by and large, the average man and average woman has DNA that makes them do things to result in procreation. You can’t accept that and go on stupid, irrelevant, pointless tangents like “hurr durr only some people need to procrea…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 07:58 PM
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Yep. Confirming I’m sporting a micropenis and I’m riddled with insecurity. How did they know?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 07:53 PM
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Oh I thought every act of sex resulted in conception. Even when you wear a condom and she’s on BC, it results in pregnancy 100% of the time. It’s why I don’t bother with safe sex and just impregnate every woman I sleep with.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 07:51 PM
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Feminine. I like girly girl women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 07:47 PM
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Interesting. I wonder how women who get hit on and cat called often, to the point of vocalizing their annoyance and rage about it, feel when it stops happening because they’ve aged out of their youth and beauty. I’ve read a handful of articles by women who say it’s jarring when they get old and notice that no men approach them anymore. They don’t buy them drinks. They don’t hold the door open for them anymore. They don’t flirt with them anymore. They stop getting attention. And for once, they fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 07:46 PM
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Thanks, I’ll check out her channel. What was her TLDR answer to that?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 07:41 PM
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Yep. The only caveat would be that trans men and trans women often face discrimination that makes their struggles wholly unique, too. The best would be those who transitioned and experienced relatively little discrimination post transition and thus widely accepted for who they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 07:39 PM
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It certainly has. Humans are so selfish. And our education system is trash tier in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 07:38 PM
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Add on resource extracting to that for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 07:33 PM
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I wish we could assemble a panel of trans men and trans women who have undergone hormone therapy to hear them swap stories of what surprised them most about their transitioned gender’s unique struggles. It would engender a lot of empathy for each gender’s problems, IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 07:32 PM
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I sometimes wonder how some of y’all function successfully in society and maintain healthy relationships with other humans. The most sobering thing about this sub is how it reinforces how dumb and confidently incorrect the average person is.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 07:23 PM
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There is nothing in our DNA that causes us to naturally seek out crack specifically like we do water and food. Crack only becomes addicting after one tries it for the first time and feels good. They get addicted to feeling good. That’s why people get addicted to anything that makes them feel good. But that’s not the same as saying crack seeking is hardwired into our DNA like water and food seeking behavior is. Can I ask, how old are you and have you taken biology classes and / or graduated from …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 07:17 PM
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This same entity said the existence of IVF is proof that human DNA does not hard wire us to seek sex. Make it make sense. Something’s not right in their brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 07:06 PM
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I am content re: my libido. I’m very successful in life largely because I set goals and achieve them without distraction. It must suck to be sex crazed. Most women are largely a distraction and a net negative to my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 07:02 PM
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I do do squats 1-2x a week and weightlift in total 3x a week or so. Have done so for years. I have an athletic slender build as an ectomorph. I got my test tested twice already and it comes out to 500 (whatever units it is), so in the middle-ish of the reference range. I’m just not naturally a horny dude. I do notice a temporary bump in horniness when I hit legs after a month long break or so. But then it reverts back to baseline.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 06:59 PM
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Low libido
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 06:54 PM
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Me, a relatively LL man: our DNA hardwires men and women to seek out sex so they can reproduce and extend the human race. It’s basic evolution. Literally every species on earth tries to reproduce so it can continue existing. Women who see the word sex and can’t distinguish it from reproduction: NO DONT SAY THAT BECAUSE YOURE GONNA GIVE SEX PESTS AN EXCUSE FOR THEIR BEHAVIOR Me: So we should reject basic biological truisms? Same women: YES Okay, so facts don’t matter anymore as long as it gives t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 06:49 PM
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No it doesn’t. There is nothing in our DNA that programs us to specifically seek out crack as a means to extend the species. You keep looking worse and worse and worse. I love it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 06:42 PM
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Being a dishonest debater is not a sign of maturity.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 06:41 PM
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Again, our DNA hard wires us all to seek sex so we can all try to reproduce and propagate the human race. Some will fail. Some will succeed. But that’s not the point. You keep anchoring on this hyper specific point that only some people need to have sex and reproduce. That’s not the point. It’s like you’re invalidating a general truism by getting into the weeds of “welllll akshually only some do” You think you’re so clever. You’re not.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 06:39 PM
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I like to shame dishonest debaters because they ruin the quality of this sub. Sorry you failed. Try better next time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 06:35 PM
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I’ll take your silence as tacit acknowledgement you realized you dug yourself into a hole. Nice try. Better luck next time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 06:32 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 06:31 PM
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Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 06:06 PM
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You’re assuming things about me. I’m not red pill. I don’t think women owe men sex. And I think a lot of men here are moronic pieces of shit who are trying to find excuses to dominate women. And in my eyes, you are. Because you just demonstrated your bias by self admitting to seeing my comment as some ploy by a conniving sex starved man to try to rationalize sex craving pestilence. I debate here in search of the objective truth. And I often use analogies to convey complex topics. I get frustrate…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 06:02 PM
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Your desire to be right all the time and never concede anything makes you such a bad debater. You debate in bad faith and you’re not as clever as you think you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 05:49 PM
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Your last statement is such a reach and you’re ascribing malicious intentions to an innocuous analogy. You’re ironically demonstrating a flavor of the behavior I referenced in my original comment. Analogies are inherently meant to be neutral value judgments. They’re used to convey a feeling or principle. They aren’t used to excuse bad behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 05:46 PM
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It’s an analogy that is directionally accurate. No one said it was the best analogy. But it’s a valid one. What’s a better analogy in your mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 05:34 PM
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You’re either intentionally or unintentionally missing the point. My assertion that sex is a need for the survival of humans is agnostic of how many people are having sex. You’re disingenuously injecting this quantity variable to, again, make some sort of unimportant point.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 05:31 PM
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No. That’s why people masturbate. Because it’s easy and accessible. But all else being equal, men, at least, prefer the real thing. It simply feels so much better. Technology helps alleviate that with the advent of fleshlights, sex toys, blow up dolls, etc. But sex with an attractive (to the man) woman will always be the Platonic ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 05:28 PM
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Whether it’s few humans or all humans, it’s still a need for the survival of the human race. You always tell me and others to read the words written carefully. Where did I write that sex for everyone is a need for the survival of human beings? You’re so pedantic in trying to carve a little island to stand on. And you inadvertently agreed with me with your statement (though I don’t think you see or get it).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 05:24 PM
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Why do people use analogies? To give people who don’t understand something a more relatable frame of reference so they can better understand it. It’s not to say that the concepts/objects/people/etc used in the analogy are equal to each other. It’s to demonstrate an underlying idea or principle. The objects/things used in the analogy are not the point and should not be what people focus on. I see this time and time again where people use analogies in the way they’re intended to be used and then m…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 05:20 PM
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Well then just ignore them and move on. But again, don’t tell me that sex is not a need for the survival of the human race. It is. And you know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 05:11 PM
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It explains their behavior but it doesn’t excuse it. You can’t make a broad claim that sex is not a need for the survival of human beings by pointing to the existence of IVF technology so you can narrowly deny some men the ability to explain why theyre so sex crazed. Explaining their behavior to understand why they behave the way they do is not the same thing as excusing and condoning it. This is why I think you’re a dishonest debater. You’d rather reject universal truths in order to spite speci…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 05:03 PM
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Another example of someone getting lost in the details instead of thinking about the bigger picture. My point is that both genders do things to each other that both genders do not like. And I don’t think one gender is inherently worse or more evil. I can’t prove that claim, nor can anyone prove the other claim. It’s too complex a question to objectively answer. My point is no one can say men are worse or women are worse as an indisputable fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 04:55 PM
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A colony of bacteria in a Petri dish will keep expanding and growing until it eventually runs out of nutrients and the whole colony dies. Why? Because the bacteria’s DNA doesn’t have self awareness that it’s in a Petri dish with limited resources. It just primitively keeps reproducing because that’s what it’s programmed to do. Humans obviously have brains and self awareness and can modulate their behavior based on such knowledge. But it requires overriding our basal biological instincts. And her…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 04:51 PM
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You’re talking about edge cases. IVF is not an option for the vast majority of people due to the cost. And it’s typically used for couples who can’t conceive through traditional methods (ie sex). And yes, overpopulation for instance can lead to the long term downfall of human beings. But our DNA doesn’t have those concepts built in. Our DNA primitively instructs us to do things to survive and reproduce. This isn’t a groundbreaking or controversial claim. I know the reason you’re fighting so hard…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 04:44 PM
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Sex is a need for the survival of the human species. Just like food is. It’s just that food is a need for individual survival whereas sex is not. But both are needed for the human species to not go extinct. And that’s why humans tend to behave in ways that are conducive to the survival of the species.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 04:28 PM
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No one did.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 03:51 PM
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I agree with this analogy. In b4 women come in saying “I’m not a piece of steak; don’t objectify me” because they get lost in the examples used in analogies to conveniently shut down the conversation without providing any logical counterpoints that aren’t based on invalid hysteria.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 03:10 PM
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You’re allowing them to continue swinging the modern feminist pendulum even further and further until we’re silenced. You’re enabling it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 03:08 PM
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The numbers are directional and not the most important part to focus on. Otherwise we’ll get rat holed over arguing what the numbers “really are.”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 02:46 PM
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This is honestly great - you’re demonstrating my points exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 02:04 PM
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Going on dates with men with no romantic intention, solely to get free meals. Texting and flirting with men they have no interest in to get attention, while leading these men on. Pretending to be helpless about something to engender sympathy and get a man to help. Etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 02:00 PM
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You’re making the mistake of localizing your comment at a micro level (ie yourself). And on a micro level, of course. Who wouldn’t? Ofc anyone would want to get a paper cut than get raped. But my commentary is at the macro level. Few men are going around doing horrible things. But MANY women are going around doing slightly bad things. The total damage inflicted on each other at a population level is the same. Ie men are not uniquely “worse” than women when the total pain inflicted is the same. E…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 01:55 PM
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Yep. There are so many women walking amongst us who knowingly and unknowingly use manipulation in covert ways to get what they want. We need to be careful. Ideally more men would develop the skills to notice it and call it out. But it’s difficult because of the plausible deniability. They’ll just smile and feign ignorance, asking what the hell you’re talking about. Women are the original gaslighters. And they don’t even know it, half the time. They do it in unknowingly, which is arguably worse f…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 01:50 PM
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Another theory I have for why men are so much easier to shit on is because our bad actions are much worse in magnitude and noticeable. Think of rape and murder. Or less damaging things like using women for sex. It’s often a very very very small minority of men who do these things. But when they do it, EVERYONE notices. It’s hard to miss. Women OTOH inflict the same total damage to men in society, but in much more subtle innocuous ways. Think of it as women giving men small paper cuts here and th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 01:41 PM
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Yes, precisely. Men are not as socially attuned and calibrated as women are. Women can read the room so fucking well. Most men can’t. And this is why women can be very dangerous because they are conniving and inflict damage behind the scenes in covert ways. Men are just blunt force hammers that inflict damage in overt ways. So it’s easy to point out when we misbehave. But women are in a way almost scarier because they are extremely calculated and manipulative in covert ways that give them plausi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 01:32 PM
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This speaks to the empathy gap society has for men. Have you ever noticed how non chalant people are about men when men have to endure something unpleasant and “take it?” Eg no one really bats an eye when we talk about boys falling behind in school. But girls not being encouraged to pursue stem is a huge issue. So we have massive social programs like, girls who code, etc (which are good, don’t get me wrong). But where are the social programs and outreach to promote better learning environments f…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 01:18 PM
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I think we men need to be more vocal (whine and air our grievances like women do) about the psychological, covert abuse women levy against us in relationships. Men tend to be abusive in very noticeable and easily measurable ways, like physical abuse, financial abuse, anger issues, etc. Women tend to be abusive in invisible, subtle, covert, hard-to-measure ways, like bringing up arguments that were previously resolved back up days/weeks later or weaponizing your insecurities or traumas against yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 01:08 PM
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Interesting - how do you define sexy? Any dress examples? Bc any dress like the first one that shows more skin and accentuates the curves is more sexy IMO. Esp bc it’s also pretty simple and not ornate, so it makes the eyes focus more on the body than the garment (IMO).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 05:22 AM
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I like the first one. Though I think as a man I see it as more sexy than cute. The second one though, I recognize that model. She used to date this other male model YouTuber I used to watch named Nic Palladino back around 2018-2019ish. Small world lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 05:11 AM
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I remember seeing that. Kudos to you for being consistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 12:53 AM
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I think this is because both genders are defining “single” differently. Men are likely interpreting it literally. If you’re not married or in a committed relationship, they’re marking single. Women are likely interpreting it more loosely. They might be open to marking not single if they have a situationship, a guy they’re dating but not committed to yet, etc. And there’s probably a number of women who are unknowingly sharing some men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 12:52 AM
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Oh
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 11:00 PM
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About what? Human nature? Nah. I’m a selfish bastard who looks out for himself too. It’s been paying off.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 10:54 PM
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Nah she’ll birth the child. And she’ll pay for our lifestyle. I’ll stay home and raise the kids and play with the toys she buys me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 10:48 PM
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Like I said, I’d be happy for my wife to take the reigns and carry on her name through our kids if she also plays the provider role and pays for my lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 10:35 PM
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I’d be happy to let her give her name if she also works full time while I stay home and raise the kids. I expect her to pay for my lifestyle, too. I want to live in a nice house and drive fancy cars. And I wasn’t aware women were forced under the gun to have sex and have kids. I guess they didn’t realize they’d have to carry a baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 10:11 PM
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Because I don’t see them talk about it, ever. I even asked a couple what they thought about how Hispanic and black women get exploited by the service industry and they said “huh, I never thought about that, but yeah, sounds about right.” And shrug, move on. Because their priority is to figure out why some men at the same level in a wiiiiide pay band somehow make 1-2% more than them - even though some also make 1-2% less than them (but shhh they don’t count). It’s not a gendered thing though. Men…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 10:09 PM
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Modern feminism isn’t about uplifting all women. It’s about uplifting women in prestigious arenas where they have to compete with men. But this is not a gendered thing. It’s just a human thing. Humans want power. And power corrupts. I see women complain about not having enough representation as CEOs and on board seats, but I don’t see women complain about not having a seat on the bed of a garbage truck. I see women complain about under representation in STEM, but I don’t see them complain about …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 10:06 PM
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I always laugh when my white, female coworkers who all make $200k+ at a big tech company complain about oppression. They conveniently never fight for the minority women who truly get shat on and abused by society.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 09:50 PM
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This is true. They hold all the leverage unless you’re better than them
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 09:08 PM
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Women throw around the misogynist label too loosely.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 08:02 PM
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But she has to spend so much money maintaining her beauty routine and look. Think about all that money spent on hair, nails, makeup, skincare products, and the gym. Men need to pay for the first date to compensate women for all that. Even though none of that is done for men. They do it for themselves, remember? But we should still pay. /s In b4 the patriarchy forces them to do it, so it’s still men’s fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 07:56 PM
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I’m in a major city and this sadly describes the majority of decently attractive women. Some won’t outright reject you for it but they sure as hell will grumble internally about it at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 07:53 PM
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Agnostic of how many you go on, a dinner first date is a bad idea for any man IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 07:00 PM
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A desirable man in a major city who invests decent time into the apps. I could and have in the past. But it’s exhausting so now I try to only go on 1 a week max.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 06:58 PM
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Yep, which I agreed with. My meta point is that it sounds good in theory, but in practice, it’s hard to find that balance where both parties agree. It’s my own personal theory for why a lot of modern relationships either fail to take off or become laden with simmering resentments and misunderstandings as they progress. Re last names, that is lame. I’ve also been curious what happens when people with hyphenated last names marry each other. Does it become A + B + C + D? Combining two together make…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 05:28 PM
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Totally. If both parties are clear on what each other wants and aligned, and it works, great. But in practice, I think both genders are finding themselves incompatible when they cherry pick like this. As an example, my last ex was a blend of modern and traditional. She didn’t want to take a man’s last name in marriage which im totally cool with. She can do whatever the fuck she wants with her last name. Idgaf about her taking mine. She said it was an outdated norm from the patriarchy. I agreed. …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 05:22 PM
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Yes, and this is why so many relationships fail. Because everyone wants to have their cake and eat it too. Both genders, equally. The most successful couples I’ve seen are the ones where both parties lean into one side or the other with consistency.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 05:14 PM
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The problem is both genders who try to balance both just end up rejecting the aspects that don’t benefit them and only wanting the ones that do benefit them. For men, this could look like wanting to go 50/50 on finances but latently expecting/hoping his gf will do more household duties still. He might want to still go out and party with the boys but not want his gf to go to the club and post thirst traps. For women, this could look like wanting her partner to cover most of the finances, but want…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 05:13 PM
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Sorry you didn’t like what I had to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 04:32 PM
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It absolutely is stifling IMO because the convos are harder to have when you’re shoving food in your mouth. This isn’t even my preference based on the manosphere. I simply think drinks are the best, logistically. No one will ever change my mind that dinner is the optimal move for a first date. Dinner isn’t even all that special, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 04:30 PM
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That is a good thing. I’m happy to do dinner dates for second dates. But you’re missing the point. the point is for first dates, they are a horrible move due to the mechanics of dinner stifling the ability to have seamless convo.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 03:43 PM
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Who said it was a universal rule? I simply shared a single anecdote of my experience running into what I sensed to be a foodie call situation. Plain and simple. Also she’s fine to want more, but ask for it with your chest. Don’t passive aggressively inject “and food” like a child. Say “hey I prefer to get to know people who I think will show more effort; would you be open to dinner?” I’d still say no and move on. But don’t be passive aggressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 03:40 PM
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Is that what we tell men who want bang maids?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 03:26 PM
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Agreed. Though I’m curious why you’re bringing this up? Are you suggesting that it’s appropriate to want these higher end dates because it signals your ability to provide / live well in said cities? Modern women do this too. Most people do it. Dating one person at a time is a losing strategy unless the other person is also dating one person at a time. And that’s not information you have off rip. It sucks though because I’d prefer to date one person at a time. But like I said, it’s a losing strat…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 03:17 PM
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I don’t have any on hand. I’d have to find studies (if they even exist). But I think a lot of men do share experiences of finding out the “friend” she told you not to worry about was indeed the branch she had her eyes set on the moment the relationship was going south.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 03:12 PM
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She was kinda weird. Had the whole I’m a feminine boss babe CEO (of a failed company with no real traction) but I want my men to be traditional and treat me like a queen but don’t forget I’m an independent boss babe.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 03:11 PM
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Even if the cost was the same, I HATE dinner dates. Conversation gets stifled because you’re shoving food in your mouth, chewing, you get the awkward pauses where they’ve asked you a question and you can’t answer because your mouth is full. They’re just bad bad bad from a mechanical standpoint. And the only women who tend to be hell bent on getting dinner dates are the more entitled ones IME. Entitlement is a huge turn off. Probably is how women feel when a guy feels entitled to sex just because…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 03:09 PM
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Possibly. But improbable imo. Here’s why: I’m 34 and she was 24. Right off the bat the huge age gap was going to be an issue for an LTR (for me at least). Her bio said something to the effect of “looking for fun and people to eat and drink with” And my job is a dead giveaway that I’m a high earner. Young women are smart: they know older men like me want them physically, so I think she saw me as a guy to exploit for a foodie call with no intention of doing anything beyond that. She wasn’t investe…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 03:06 PM
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My experience, unfortunately. I one matched with a really attractive 39 year old (6 years my senior at the time) and asked her out for drinks. This was maybe within 5 messages. She wasn’t very talkative and I got the vibe she didn’t enjoy small talk. Cool. I’m the same way, which is why I engage in light banter first and then quickly ask them out. She hit me with a sarcastic “we live in an instant gratification society, huh?” It’s possible she just wasn’t into me, which is fine. Either way, unma…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 01:54 PM
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Funny dating app match story: Matched with a 32 yo woman. She was messaging LONG paragraphs of text. Indicated strong interest. She told me she had a fantastic weekend watching the sunrise with a good friend after going to a music concert. The way she described it made it sound like it was a good girlfriend of hers. Fast forward to me asking her out for drinks. She said she doesn’t do low effort dates like that and is tired of men being lazy. I told her drinks as a first date is very very very c…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 01:48 PM
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I always do drinks first. Reminds me of a match I had. Kinda got vibes she was just dating around to pass time and/or get free meals. Hard to explain but trust me on this. But she was cute, so I figured why not and told her I’d love to take her out for drinks (to see if it could turn into a casual thing at a minimum). She responded “I’d love to get some drinks and food” Instant turn off with how she passive aggressively injected the food “suggestion.” Unmatched with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 01:43 PM
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Fortunately never been in that situation before. But if I found myself in that situation, I think I’d politely say “hey I feel misled with how you portrayed yourself online. I don’t see this going anywhere, take care” and I’d leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 01:38 PM
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Lol I knew women were just as raunchy as men when it comes to locker room talk. Men tend to be more explicit and primitive in how they talk about things, but the topics both talk about are largely the same. Women are just more “sophisticated” in how they talk about it. Men: she has nice tits and I’d love to fuck her Women: his bulge is realllly nice giggle
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 01:33 PM
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I’d love to do coffee or ice cream for the reasons you stated. Unfortunately, the caliber of woman I date tends to not like these. They are somewhat more expecting of at least something more upscale, ie drinks at a nice cocktail lounge. It’s the bed I have to lie on due to the women I choose to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 01:30 PM
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Care to share deets on topics discussed and level of detail? Eg bodily functions of women, date experiences, sexual experience story swapping, etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 01:26 PM
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What is female locker room talk like? I have an idea, but would love to hear your experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 01:20 PM
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Spot on about big tech. The average software engineer I’m surrounded by is so painfully awkward and shy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 01:19 PM
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I disagree. But I don’t have the data to back up my claims on hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 01:17 PM
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I want to start doing this. I go on a lot of first dates from the apps. 75% of them don’t go anywhere because I don’t want to see them again. I want to ask to split when I think the woman acts in a way that really turns me off, but it’s kind of unfair IMO bc I’m the one who picked the venue. I don’t really pick expensive spots, but I also don’t pick cheap dive bars either. So it might be a dick move for me to ask to split. That said, the women I tend to go on dates with are professional women wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 01:14 PM
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This is my preferred style in a woman. I’ll ask, plan, and pay for the first 3 dates or so. I’ll insist on paying too. But I do watch for signs of contribution. If she INSISTS on paying for a second or third date dinner, I’ll let her and note her down in my brain as potential GF material. But that’s very rare. Only a handful of women have done that. The next best is when they insist on covering a small ticket item, like a round of drinks at the bar. Or the Uber we take somewhere. I just want to …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 01:05 PM
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Lol if you live in a major city like LA or NYC, an average restaurant bill where you both get two drinks each, two apps, and an entree? With tax and tip, that’ll set you back $150-200 easy. And if you’re going on 1-3 dates a week, that quickly adds up. I make a high enough income that I can easily absorb this. But the ROI on this is HORRIBLE. So I never, ever go on dinner first dates. Not only do I think they’re horrible at fostering conversation and chemistry, but they’re not worth it to the ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 12:58 PM
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This is an interesting point. Outside of abusive or dangerous situations where a woman should leave quickly, they tend to do so only after lining up another guy they think will be a suitable replacement. Men will either check out of the relationship or just end it without necessarily having a replacement GF identified. That’s what I did for my last two relationships, at least (anecdotal, I know). I just decided I didn’t like where things were going, thought about it for a day or two, and just en…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 12:36 PM
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Wow, that’s wild. You’d think they’d lightly screen the panelists for what talking points they planned to present to make sure they were more aligned with the female empowerment narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 03:37 AM
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Have any women here worked in female-dominated work environments, balanced ones, AND male-dominated ones as well? If so, did you notice any observable differences in how people got along in each one? I imagine the balanced ones had the least drama? Whereas the ones dominated by one gender had more drama?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 03:35 AM
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I’m assuming you’re fairly young. Do you think more girls your age are into the photography/videography and editing skill sets to become better at social media and go into content creation?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 03:25 AM
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I work in STEM. The best and most talented, hardest working coworkers on my team are women. The men tend to be a bit lazier on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 03:21 AM
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Ok so you’re more taking issue with the sexism that can run rampant in STEM. Or are you suggesting that said sexism is well known, thus deterring women from picking STEM, and thus lowering the % of women in STEM that would otherwise be higher if said sexism didn’t exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 03:20 AM
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Do you think it’s mostly bc they just have low interest? Or do you think it’s mostly because they don’t feel comfortable pursuing it because of how male dominated it is? Or something else?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 03:13 AM
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He is very articulate, I’ll give him that. And he does frame things very well (as in it’s very clear what his stance is).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 03:11 AM
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Meh. That penis pump thing was dumb and yeah he should’ve fact checked it before flippantly tweeting it. Dumb for sure. That take on rape though. Holy. What a horrible, idiotic take. Wow. A rape is only bad if it enrages the woman’s male relatives? Lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 03:09 AM
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Like what topics? I don’t really watch his content, though I’ve seen a few clips.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 02:58 AM
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Do the women here think low female representation in STEM is an issue that needs to be addressed?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 02:56 AM
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I could never sleep with an obese/overweight woman. I just wouldn’t be able to be aroused.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 02:55 AM
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I think you’re the first woman to publicly share they like Jordan Peterson.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 02:54 AM
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I was being tongue in cheek about my question to suggest that men simply care way less about a woman’s finances than the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 12:28 AM
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I thought that episode of TLOU was one of the best episodes of TV, ever. That is, if you’re confident enough in your masculinity and sexuality to not be bothered by gay men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 11:29 PM
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K. Try again next time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 08:55 PM
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Liberal cities tend to have tenant laws that are horribly in favor of tenants. It disproportionately ends up fucking over the mom and pop landlords that own 1-2 units vs the institutional investors that own hundreds to thousands.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 08:54 PM
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Looks wise, she’s a 5/10. Completely average. Not ugly. Not pretty.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 08:33 PM
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This was a refreshing exchange. Thanks for being reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 08:24 PM
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We’re not discussing what we want for ourselves. We’re discussing what we want in our partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 08:19 PM
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Yep, and I think that’s where a lot of women differ in their preferences. A man won’t necessarily care much, if at all, if his partner makes less than him. But a woman would care way more if her partner made less than her. Whether it’d be a dealbreaker or not depends on the individual. But I think we can all agree that on average, women place a higher priority on income than men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 08:18 PM
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I agree. Being a gold digger is taking that preference to the extreme above all other variables. But generally preferring to have a partner who can provide a decent income is not bad at all and shouldn’t be shamed. I, unlike most men, also prefer to date a woman who makes a decent income. It doesn’t have to be more than mine, but I also don’t want to date an ambition-less bum.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 08:14 PM
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I don’t think the women here are refusing to answer because they’re trying to protect men’s feelings. Given the nature of this sub and what we discuss (gender dynamics), I suspect the women here are purposely trying to not accept this wealth preference premise because they don’t want to give the men here ammunition to call them gold diggers. Whereas I readily am willing to acknowledge some of the unflattering/unpopular truths about men: They can be highly motivated and blinded by the pursuit of …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 08:08 PM
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Thank you for being able to answer simple questions with simple answers. It’s shocking how many women I’ve asked this today who deflect and object. It’s not a controversial premise to accept whatsoever. People would rather deny reality than embrace the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 07:58 PM
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The point is that most women prefer to have a romantic partner who makes at least the same amount of income as her, but preferably more. Men don’t put nearly as much of an emphasis on their partner’s income as women do. IE women tend to care more about current wealth and/or wealth potential in a prospective mate. Some women here seem to not want to accept this. I suspect it’s because they don’t want to give idiot RP men ammunition to call them gold diggers. So they’d rather purposely feign ignor…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 07:56 PM
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Yep. Either same as hers or, preferably, higher than hers.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 07:44 PM
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Do you think most women, on average, look for higher income as one of their preferred criteria in a desirable partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 07:37 PM
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gets asked a hypothetical, abstract question and tries to intellectualize it by arguing how a made up scenario could never work in practice and completely misses the point either intentionally or unintentionally K. I guess you wouldn’t know how to answer whether, hypothetically, you would rather date a kind man or an abusive monster.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 07:35 PM
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Yeah, she’s one of the posters I don’t take too seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 07:32 PM
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You must be an outlier bc per some women here, women don’t care about a man’s income at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 07:31 PM
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I see. Thanks for sharing your story. And sorry to hear about your wife passing. That must have been incredibly difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 06:30 PM
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Are you suggesting women care about resources (wealth) more than men do when seeking partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 05:59 PM
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Interesting. Sounds like you don’t care about age at all. How old are you? I’m 34 and I have a hard filter set on my apps for 25-32 with a strong preference for women in their late 20s because they look more attractive and are more mature and similar in life stage.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 05:57 PM
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Fair enough. Do you typically date women older than you?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 05:51 PM
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You’re arguing an unwinnable point. A hypothetical necessarily abstracts out these variables to simplify an argument and help establish the principles/points one is trying to argue. For you to hand-wavily say “maybe fix it so it does” nullifies the entire reason for why we use hypotheticals to begin with. I think you’re trolling. You can’t be this dense.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 05:50 PM
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Ah gotcha. Ok but that’s more passive and broader in targeting, though I do concede it’s consistent with the concept. What I mean is I don’t know of any large-ish communities of men who come together on how to scheme wealthy women out of their money by leveraging their sexuality for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 05:43 PM
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How are the men on only fans extracting money from wealthy women when they’re the ones paying money to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 05:40 PM
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What were some of the TLDR arguments and talking points?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 05:37 PM
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Why aren’t there any subreddits dedicated to men strategizing how to extract financial resources from wealthy women?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 05:36 PM
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What do you get out of being around such people you detest?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 05:34 PM
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Fair point. What if you could date that same older woman but her past self from X years ago (ie her younger self where she arguably looked even better)?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 05:33 PM
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Link?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 05:15 PM
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Makes sense. Thanks for sharing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 05:10 PM
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I do still believe women prefer men that are taller than them and who make more than them, or at a bare minimum, the same as them (ie money is an important factor for them). My study focused on the wealth aspect. I did not assert that the study also substantiates the height preference. Though I did see some studies validating this and am happy to dig them up to discuss with you if you’re interested in continuing. Edit: here is a study citing women’s preferences for men that are taller than them …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 05:10 PM
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The fact that I brought it up first is not as relevant. Whoever brought it up first is not relevant. The only concession I’ll make here is that it was a single instance of an exchange that I believe substantiates my belief that the average woman today is more eager to accept and point out negative things about men, but are less likely to do the same for their own gender. I need more instances of her doing that to build a case against her individually. But there’s no need or desire for me to do t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 04:50 PM
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I successfully substantiated my belief that women on average prefer wealthier partners by citing a study showing women preferring men with wealth potential. Your rejection of that data because it doesn’t fit your beliefs is your own delusion. Sorry, try again next time. Edit: my comment has several upvotes. I will use that as a loose proxy that most agree with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 04:47 PM
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Makes sense. You’d prefer a man who makes around what you make, if not more, generally speaking. Is that fair?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 04:43 PM
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It’s a hypothetical. I guess we can never posit hypothetical questions, ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 04:40 PM
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I fight for the objective truth. Sorry my study refuted your views. Edit: I’ll concede I was wrong in presuming you were a feminist. Your behavior reminded me of them, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 04:40 PM
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Are you trolling? All else being equal…. ie everything else outside of the income.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 04:03 PM
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Yes, you’re getting at the same principles, just in a more granular fashion.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 03:49 PM
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Ok now you’re being clearer and I fully understand your point finally. I said that last part and I still stand believe it. I believe with modern feminism, there is a cultural tone that is more willing to acknowledge and actively point out negative things about men: how they commit crimes, how they are rapists, how they are oppressing women, how they are creeps for preferring younger, less experienced women, etc. And I simultaneously believe modern feminists are unwilling to acknowledge and activ…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 03:40 PM
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It’s not. I’m trying to establish common, universally accepted beliefs about large populations. Men like younger women. Men like youth and fertility. Men like pretty women. Men like women who are shorter than them. Women like taller, more muscular men who can protect. Women like men who can provide for them and the family. Why are we having so much trouble accepting these general beliefs? There are countless studies proving these mate choice preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 03:20 PM
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Ok….? The point is “women” is a population of human beings. “Rapists” is a population of human beings. We can make broad generalizations about populations based on the data we have about said populations. It’s like you’re manufacturing an argument that isn’t even valid. I still don’t understand what you’re trying to get at. I think you’re just upset that you keep trying to catch me in some sort of gotcha but fail every time. You use vague statements like “you are discussing different reactions t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 03:18 PM
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Q4M: all else being equal, would you prefer a woman younger than you or older than you?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 03:12 PM
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Q4W: all else being equal, would you prefer a man who lives at the poverty line or a man who makes $100,000?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 03:10 PM
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Ok so what’s your main takeaway? That the DK effect is not real and is merely a statistical anomaly? I’m confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 03:08 PM
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No one’s saying that though? The basic principle is that given a population of rapists, what is the general likelihood they are to be men? We’re making a broad generalization of a population at hand (rapists). I still don’t see why you’re bringing this up? I haven’t googled this but I bet the percentage of men that are rapists is probably low single digits. And similarly, I bet the percentage of rapists that are men is in the upper 90s. So what?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 03:07 PM
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You’re right that I shouldn’t use personal attacks. That’s wrong of me and I apologize. Im sorry. It’s so frustrating though to see how you’re missing the point (from my POV) because I work with software engineers and they tend to be the most logically sound people I know. I guess I’m just disappointed that you’re bucking the trend. I stand by my assertion that women prefer wealthier mates. That’s not controversial to say at all. And it’s a truism that society has acknowledged and made fun of si…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 03:03 PM
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Of course. Ambition and passion are attractive. Nothing you said disproves the point that women on average probably prefer a man who is wealthier than one who’s not, regardless of what income level he started from per your examples. Why do we need to caveat and disclaimer all these things? Women prefer wealthier men just like how men prefer younger women. It just is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 02:59 PM
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I know of maybe 3? They are simultaneously overweight but even when I saw them when slimmer, their faces were still ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 02:53 PM
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Oh I’m just using your line of reasoning as to why we can’t say men prefer non promiscuous women (because most women are not promiscuous to begin with) to validate why women seeking men with wealth potential being the same as preferring wealth in a partner (because most men are not wealthy to begin with). You can clearly read but you can’t use abstract logic to save your life. It’s scary you’re a software engineer when using logic is one of the core skills needed to be one.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 02:52 PM
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What are you even arguing? This is completely irrelevant to the discussion at hand. Being a woman who cares about wealth is also a trait that one is free to self select. What’s your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 02:45 PM
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And I’m also glad you agreed way up earlier that men prefer non-promiscuous women. Thanks for playing. Try again next time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 02:43 PM
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Sure, I see what you’re getting at. But the study specifically does measure for intention by allowing women to choose men who have “wealth potential.” They believe that man could eventually become wealthy. Most men are not wealthy. Thus why wealth potential is the most realistic proxy for measuring this intentionality for seeking wealth. This is not directed at you but I simply don’t understand how or why this is so hard to accept by women. My hypothesis is that women don’t want to accept this o…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 02:37 PM
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No duh they’re not the same. Someone who has $0 income today is not the same as someone who makes $50,000. But the study is saying that if a woman believes a man might become wealthy, and let’s say, earn $500,000 a year eventually in the future, she would pick him. Ergo, she cares about wealth. She’s just okay to delay gratification and attain it eventually. And why is she okay to wait? Most likely because MOST MEN ARE NOT CURRENTLY WEALTHY. Most women don’t have an abundant supply of wealthy me…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 02:32 PM
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I believe ANYONE, on average, would prefer a wealthier partner. I just think women care more. It’s higher on their list of priorities and it actively makes a man more appealing if he’s wealthy. Conversely, given the option between two women where one has half a mil in student loan debt and another woman has zero debt, all else being equal, it’s reasonable to assume most men would pick the woman with no debt.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 02:29 PM
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That’s not the takeaway I got from reading both articles. The author himself in the first article states that the effect is real. I think what you’re fixated on is WHY it happens. My assertion is simply that the effect is real and measurable, repeatedly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 02:26 PM
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I read the sources to the Wikipedia article before linking it and saw it linked to three separate research studies backing up my claim. How can you with a straight face say that women seeking wealth potential is not an indication of women’s preferences for wealth in a mate? Let’s use logic though because I’ll play ball with your hyper fixation on the “men who are wealthy right now” angle. Most men are not wealthy. Therefore it’s reasonable to assume that most women aren’t constantly exposed to w…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 02:21 PM
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Me: I believe most women on average would prefer a wealthier partner. Her: we can’t say that women on average prefer wealthier men. Women aren’t a monolith. Me: sure, SOME women don’t care about wealth. You’re right. But on average, most women would prefer to pick a man who’s wealthier than a man who isn’t, all else being equal. Her: again, we can’t say general assertions about populations at large. It’s not fair. Me: okay, are most rapists and murderers likely to be men? Her: YES, of course. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 02:13 PM
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You discarded Wikipedia as a source potential in general because anyone can edit it. Ergo, you consider Wikipedia to be an invalid source to use for information. Ergo, if you’ve ever looked up anything on Wikipedia and used what was written to form a belief or confirm a question, you’re a hypocrite for rejecting it. It doesn’t matter whether it was for a specific paper or if it was for a fleeting, inconsequential factoid you were merely curious about. Second, wealth potential is a proxy for weal…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 02:02 PM
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You’re not wrong. But the women you’re talking about are not the women that post is talking about. The women the post is referring to are the truly hideous women who got fucked by genetics. It’s outside of their control. Just like a man who’s born 4’11” will likely have severe dating challenges, so will a woman who is a 2 out of 10 on the beauty scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 01:58 PM
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Sorry bruh but that post specifically points to women who are ugly for reasons out of their control (ie specifically not obesity, but things like being facially ugly). An ugly woman who’s not overweight will be ignored by men just like an ugly man will be ignored by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 01:52 PM
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It’s not. Their rule boils down to “women should only have sex with me.” They are part of the rule. The politicians’ are “everyone, including me, should wear masks” and then not applying that rule to themselves. Different situations. The apples to apples scenario for men would be “women should never have sex with all men in the world, including me” and then telling women to then have sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 01:47 PM
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Bruh. It links to three research studies on mate selection preferences. There’s a similar Wikipedia article on murder stats showing men are the predominant set of criminals. I guess we should discard that too since anyone can contribute? Here’s a study that shows women on average prefer men with resources and wealth potential. https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2016-52943-001 Btw I hope you’ve never in your entire life ever used Wikipedia to look something up or validate something. Because if you ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 01:42 PM
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I can see why you’re confused and conflating the two situations but they’re actually different. The politicians are literally rules for thee but not for me. “Every human in my district, including myself, should wear masks.” The chad-aspirations are not rules for thee and none for me, because their rule inherently allows them to be the exception. “Women should only have sex with me and me only.”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 01:36 PM
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Ok so you’re using data to answer the murdered and rapist question. Here’s data to answer the “do women tend to prefer wealthier mates” question. There is a section for women that specifically talks about resources and has studies linked. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mating_preferences
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 01:33 PM
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It’s not rules for thee and none for me. If it were, it’d be “women should never have sex with anyone forever. They should die sexless. But women should still have sex with me.” A rule is placed on everyone else and not applied to themselves. But it’s “women should only have sex with me” basically. The rule applies to everyone, inclusive of the man in question.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 01:30 PM
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It’s a reductive, unsophisticated way of men channeling their desire to be the top man for a given woman of interest. They just want to be a Chad. But it’s not contradictory. It’d be contradictory if they said women should be celibate for eternity but also have sex with me. The men are asking for a super narrow rule that allows them to fit within it by being the one and only man she fucks. That’s not contradictory.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 01:25 PM
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Lol. Let’s play. The politicians and mask situation: it is a form of a contradiction, yes. More specifically, it’s a form of hypocrisy. Rules for thee and none for me. For the men, they are not a contradiction. On the surface it can seem like it, but it’s not when you dig in. Because the principle is: I want a woman who is so hyper selective in who she wants to have sex with that she basically has sex with no one else except for me because somehow I’m this superior man that finally is appealing …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 01:16 PM
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It’s implied you don’t understand it because you’re calling them contradictions. A contradiction is a set of statements or beliefs that oppose each other. Those men’s preferences for women do not oppose each other. They’re in harmony with each other. What do you think about that? Do you still think they contradict each other? If so, please explain how.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 12:59 PM
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This. It’s stupid and unlikely to happen to the average man. But the motivation behind why they want this is super clear and easy to understand. The Lilith hammer strikes again lol. It’s the same principle why women go on The Bachelor. Because they want to be the final woman that gets picked.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 12:52 PM
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Re your last one around whores. It’s quite simple. These men want women who don’t fuck other men as easily but fuck THEM easily because it implies she has a special desire for him only. What’s not to get?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 12:48 PM
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You said women are not a monolith. That’s a passive rejection of the assertion. If you asked me whether men are likely to want to have sex with women or men, I wouldn’t say “welllllll men aren’t a monolith.” You’re stubborn for no good reason. I bet if I asked you negative questions about men you’d answer in the clear affirmative in a heartbeat. Are murderers and rapists most likely to be men or women?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 12:29 PM
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You’re dodging the question. You think I’m trying to catch you in some sort of weird gotcha. What people end up with in their partners doesnt negate the existence of preferences that may go against what is found in said partners. Why is it so hard to admit that on average, if women could pick between a taller and richer partner vs a shorter and poorer partner, they’d likely pick the former? Who WOULDN’T as a woman? It makes perfect sense why they would. It’s no different than asking whether on a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 12:15 PM
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I read them. They’re basically trying to explain away the phenomenon that this overconfidence bias by ignorant idiots can be POSSIBLY explained away by other biases or statistical phenomenon. But there is one specific study in 2021 with 3,000 plus participants that debunked the possibility of statistical anomalies and thus refuted those criticisms. The phenomenon is real and consistently replicated. The only difference is that the principle can still be partly shared by the unignorant, too, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 12:08 PM
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What if the question was tweaked around women’s preferences. If asked on average whether women prefer taller and richer men vs shorter and poorer men, what would you choose?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 11:57 AM
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You raise valid points and yes, the studies questioning it raise valid questions. But all I need to know is that the phenomenon has been replicated numerous times with stat sig results by other researchers. Sure, the strength of the relationship between the variables in each study varies, but the results are stat sig nonetheless and speak for themselves. To characterize the DK effect as “false as if that’s an indisputable fact is not accurate either. I’ll concede the evidence is not a slam dunk,…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 06:45 AM
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I feel like you know what the answer probably is but you just don’t want to concede it. You really think if you had to pick whether most men care or don’t care about promiscuity, you’d be stuck and not know which answer to pick without hesitation? Despite knowing that since the beginning of time, men of all cultures have always wanted to marry virgins or women with low n counts (whether that’s right or wrong)? How is it that since the dawn of time, across thousands of years of civilization acros…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 06:18 AM
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I brought it up because it’s an implied and highly relevant factor we need to consider in both scenarios of casual sex and cheating. More men seek more casual sex with more women. Women tend to want to pair up with one man. And sure, I’ll give you that some women probably cheat because they think they found a better man. In those instances, I’ll concede that they’re following their biological imperative to have the best mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 06:14 AM
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Your first reply to me was an article that was asserting the DK effect “isn’t real” and I linked two articles (including one from one of the original authors himself) that the effect IS REAL. The pattern continues to show itself with stat sig results in multiple replications of the original experiment with varying tests.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 06:11 AM
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Ugh… you missed the point. God and religion are a red herring. The point is he knows the real answer since we don’t have data. Let me reframe the question. Instead of God, it’s a woman who somehow surveyed every single man in the United States whom these men would prefer to marry. The promiscuous one or the non promiscuous one. And I already explained to you that what I meant by my assertion that women are shamed for promiscuity is that it was a proxy to convey men’s preferences for marrying non…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 06:06 AM
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Ok well then by your logic there too, the man just did what he wanted too by sleeping with multiple women because men like variety. So him cheating is okay. Of course everyone lives their lives based on their experiences and what’s available to them. But we all share the same lizard brain urges. Whether that is conditioned out of you or reinforced based on the culture you’re raised in will shape your future behaviors. But since we can’t talk about this at a micro level, we can only talk about it…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 06:02 AM
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I concede you didn’t say the word innocent but you’re implying her cheating is less worse. And ofc she wants to cheat bc she cheated. That’s self evident. But she decided to cheat despite that not being her natural imperative. And I’m being consistent with the passive component. She’s actively deciding to cheat in spite of the fact that’s not her biological hard wiring. How are those two points in conflict with each other? If anything it actively reinforces how much more of an active choice it i…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 05:52 AM
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Your critical error here is that you’re making Sally a passive participant who just has to let cheating happen to her. How convenient. Cheating is a decision both parties have to make themselves, actively. Sally is not some innocent party here. No, she decided to cheat, and she did it easily. And you can’t discount the biological factor. She’s going against her own natural instincts to cheat and does it easily. Easily way worse. And the biological factor applies to the casual sex scenario too. M…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 05:40 AM
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I never asserted it was true at all. I asserted what I believe in. Tell me this: God appears before your eyes. He says he’s gonna ask you a question and if you get it wrong, he’s going to banish you and your family to Hell for eternity. He knows the right answer too because he’s, well, God. He asks: all men in the United States are given the option to marry two near identical women. The only difference between the two is that one is promiscuous and the other isn’t. These men are told which one i…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 05:33 AM
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The whole point is simple: he won because he had an advantage. That’s why no one gave a shit that he won. He wasn’t David conquering the Goliath. If the Williams sisters beat Federer, people would be clapping and cheering so fucking hard to recognize the accomplishment for what it is. They overcame their biological disadvantages and STILL won. In this example, Williams sisters = men who sleep around and Federer = women who sleep around.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 05:31 AM
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I still think a woman cheating is worse because getting sex for her is easier. She just needs to decide she wants to cheat bc she knows she’ll get to easily. Why let it slide because it’s easier for her? That’s ridiculous. You’re also conveniently discarding the biological differences in that women tend to want to focus on one man at a time, anyway. Men want variety. So a woman going out of her way to cheat is way worse because it goes against her own biological imperative.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 05:26 AM
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Why is the onus on me to find evidence for your assertion? I didn’t find any, btw. Eagerly awaiting your response.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 05:24 AM
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I never said your beliefs were nullified. I merely explained we were talking in different frames: you in personal anecdotes and me in the abstract. Just because men aren’t actively asking about n counts doesn’t mean they don’t care about promiscuity. It just means they don’t want to ask about n counts. Why they don’t ask is a subject for another day. N count is a quantification of promiscuity. You can still care about promiscuity without measuring the person’s n count. Just like you can’t know s…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 05:21 AM
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Yes, thank you. This is the basic point: that men have a much harder time getting sex. So society tends to consider that a feat / accomplishment vs when women get a lot of sex. People here are debating how that logic makes no sense. Smh. It makes perfect sense. Whether it’s right or wrong is an entirely separate issue. But these posters get so caught up in their feelings that they might get judged for promiscuity that they resist the logic of the why.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 04:53 AM
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We’re talking past each other bc you’re talking about your personal lived experiences and I’m talking in the abstract about the population of men at large. My point is simple: I believe most men don’t want to date promiscuous women if given the choice. Now in practice, how does this play out? Most men don’t really care all that much to ask body counts. I don’t. I’ve never asked. And I don’t care. But I do look for signs to gauge her attitude towards sex and how flippant she is. If I get a whiff …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 04:52 AM
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You say men have to go the extra mile to cheat while simultaneously saying “a woman has to resist more temptation” with the keyword being “more” so as to suggest it’s easier for her to cheat since she has to resist it whereas the man seeks it. Ergo, if a woman cheats, it’s because it’s easier. And thus she should not be excused for it and if anything should be shit on more for it. Can’t believe you don’t see the flaws in your own logic. Just like the other guy, you’re gonna cut and run and say w…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 04:48 AM
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I’ll own that I used the “society shames women” loosely in a way open to misinterpretation. That’s my bad. But I also just clarified what I meant by that phrase in my last comment: that men on average have a preference for non promiscuous women. Ergo, using your statement that MOST men are not promiscuous and thus pair up with equally non-promiscuous women, aren’t you just agreeing with me?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 04:37 AM
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Yep, once they realize they’re losing the debate and no longer have logic to stand on, they get emotional and then try to shame you or insult you. Sometimes I don’t think they even realize they’re losing because they lack the self awareness and intuition. All they feel is this sense of frustration because they don’t know what to say next. So they lash out because they can’t self regulate their emotions. It’s no different than a little child lashing out and throwing a tantrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 04:34 AM
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Let me elaborate. You’re taking the public shaming part too literally as if I was referring to people vocally expressing shaming language and tactics against women for being promiscuous out in the open for all to see. That does happen for sure, but not often, because to do so would get you canceled by the liberal media. You’d get shat on and crucified by feminists. So a lot of men would self censor and never publicly admit their preference for non-promiscuous women. So, the reason why I intentio…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 04:28 AM
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I’m willing to bet that if you asked men in private whether they’d rather wife a woman who is promiscuous vs one who isn’t, and you told them they would not be shamed or canceled for whichever answer they choose, the majority (more than 50%) would choose the non-promiscuous woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 04:18 AM
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I only abandon ship when I can tell the poster is unhinged and arguing in bad faith. And I dip quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 04:02 AM
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i believe u
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 04:00 AM
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What’s your profession?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 03:58 AM
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No, I’m trying to identify the posters whom I think are likely to argue in good faith and have solid logical / analytical reasoning skills. You already demonstrated your chops earlier by catching onto my Socratic method of questioning in another comment chain.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 03:57 AM
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You made an assertion. Please back it up with data in the form of text snippets from the articles. And what does “acknowledging the fact of the artifact” even mean? Why did you remove the “genius” quip?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 03:55 AM
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I agree. No one should go out of their way to shame these women. But everyone has the right to reject these women as dating prospects if they don’t want promiscuous women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 03:54 AM
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Does anyone here have a job where they have to analyze data and use logic to make business decisions? Looking for: software engineers, data scientists, analysts, marketers, scientists, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 03:51 AM
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No one said anything of the sort. We only talked about the impressiveness of their accomplishment(s) or the lack thereof - not their intrinsic value as human beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 03:47 AM
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I had to come back to this flawed take. A woman cheating is much easier because she gets propositioned much more. So for her to cheat, she simply needs to say yes. A man cheating is much more difficult because he has to seek it out and convince women to sleep with him. It conveys the same exact principle as regular casual sex. It’s easier for women to get it. Therefore it’s easier for women to cheat. Lmao. You argued for my own point. A true self own. Love to see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 03:35 AM
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Irony. That fun “fact” was further debunked. https://www.bps.org.uk/psychologist/dunning-kruger-effect-and-its-discontents# https://skepticalinquirer.org/exclusive/yes-the-dunning-kruger-effect-really-is-real/
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 03:28 AM
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No, because those are jobs shamed by society.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 02:58 AM
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Yeah, it wouldn’t work so well for men because men compete with each other. Women have a sisterhood they use to protect each other. A good deal of men would be looking to sabotage each other. Maybe they’d spread false lies about a woman they’re dating to turn off other men from pursuing her. It wouldn’t be the same. Or maybe it would since men are getting sick of the power imbalance in dating? Who knows.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 02:57 AM
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It’s not even the trolls. It’s the people who try to debate in earnest and fail miserably but think they’re right because they’re too ignorant to realize.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 02:46 AM
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This sub’s average user is the perfect embodiment of the Dunning-Kruger effect in action. Some best of material here for the Confidently Incorrect sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 02:44 AM
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Honestly, most people here aren’t logical and analytical enough to make solid arguments and it shows. It’s so frustrating trying to debate with them because it’s like arguing with an 8 year old child.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 02:40 AM
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Lol just curious. Do you go on dates with men from time to time (if you’re single)?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 02:32 AM
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I don’t either. But I understand why some do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 02:26 AM
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Are you a woman by chance?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 02:21 AM
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I was arguing with someone and using the Socratic method. He then tried to do the same to me. I then told him I knew exactly where he was going to go and that I was two steps ahead of him, but do go on nonetheless. He then got scared and said “nah I’m done here.” I think he’s pretty blue pill based on the arguments he’s spouted on other topics. So yeah, +1 data point to your observation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 02:20 AM
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Why do people here run away from debates when they no longer have any logic to use by saying “I’m done here and have better things to do?” It’s such a classic trope lol. A: 1+1 = 3 B: no, 1+1=2 A: I’m done here, this is a waste of time. You’re an idiot.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 02:15 AM
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Coward. Thanks for losing. Try again next time. Classic “I’m leaving now” when you can’t prove a point.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 02:12 AM
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Yes, but what % of men aspire to be chads and what % of women aspire to be promiscuous? Which number is likely to be higher?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 02:08 AM
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I agree. People should feel free to use whatever filters they want to screen for potential partners. Separate question for you though re: double standards. Do you think double standards are inherently bad, and therefore should be abolished if possible?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 02:07 AM
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How did I lose? Why did you stop your Socratic line of questioning? If it’s so clear how and why I lost, why don’t you ask me the basic questions that I will answer for you. I’m giving you the chance to prove me wrong. Yes, men have to seek out partners for sex if they want to cheat. But women would get propositioned even without trying. I concede that. Men exert more effort and women don’t. Proceed with your next question. Go on. I think you’re just scared to proceed because I told you where I …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 02:01 AM
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Yes. This is why I will never shed a tear for a promiscuous woman who finds herself unable to secure a valuable man because of her reputation and later cries about it and blames men for having a double standard. Why should society reward you for taking the easy path?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 01:58 AM
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I’m not for promiscuity, either. But a lot of men look up to Chads and want to be like them and sleep around. That’s why this damn sub even exists alongside the manosphere. But how many women look up to promiscuous women and aspire to be like them? Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 01:57 AM
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Do it then man. Prove me wrong man. I’m begging you to. I’m game. You make it seem like you have all the answers and logic to prove me wrong. I want to play. Let’s go: begin. I will always humbly admit when I’m wrong because I’m not too proud to learn from my mistakes. It seems like you aren’t cut from the same cloth though unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 01:55 AM
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It’s the same reason why your parents would be proud of you for landing a job at a Ibanking firm out of college making $150k as a 22 year old. But they wouldn’t be impressed if you only made minimum wage at McDonald’s. One is harder to obtain. The other one isn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 01:54 AM
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To all the women who cry about the double standard between men and women and promiscuity, society will never let go of it until men and women are able to have access to sex with each other at an equal rate. For as long as women control access to sex, you will continue to be shamed by society at large for being promiscuous. This is not me condoning this double standard, btw. But if you can’t understand why it exists, you’re not very smart. Whether it’s right or wrong is a completely different sto…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 01:49 AM
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adds two more usernames to the idiot list pile after today’s debates
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 01:47 AM
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Bro, why did you stop? You were going to use the Socratic method on me to prove why the cheating analogy works. Please carry on. Use your line of logic and reasoning because you were SO SURE you were right up until now. What’s your next question? Oh never mind. You’re cutting and running. Great job. Thanks for losing. Try again next time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 01:45 AM
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Yes, it’s an average hetero man. You’re surprised because it’s hard for men to get sex compared to women, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 01:44 AM
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I agree it’s not a competition. But it clearly explains why society perceives player men in a more positive light (have you seen all the Chad worship on this sub?) compared to a promiscuous woman. Why do so many men want to be like a Chad and sleep with so many women? Because that’s what men want. Does the average woman aspire to be promiscuous? No. Because it’s shamed. Why is it shamed? Because there is a double standard against women for this. Is it unfair? Yes. But is it understandable? YES. …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 01:43 AM
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Dude… why do you keep using the cheating analogy when it’s not an apples to apples comparison. I just can’t with you anymore. But you know what? I’ll play ball anyway. Because I can see exactly where this is going and I’m going to prove you wrong again. Yes, that sounds accurate. Please proceed with your next line of reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 01:38 AM
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Makes sense. You pick the woman and you lose because the man ends up having way more sex than her. He is found to have complied by the rules and there was no foul play. He won fair and square. What’s your reaction to losing the bet? Would you be surprised?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 01:32 AM
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I’m not being intentionally obtuse at all. I’m using the Socratic method to ask you very basic questions so we can build upon a shared agreement and understanding of underlying principles to eventually land on a specific point. Men and women like sex. Therefore men and women seek sex with each other. Sex is the desired outcome for both. But men have a tougher time getting sex. Women have a much easier time getting sex. So when a man can get a lot of sex, it’s perceived as more impressive than wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 01:30 AM
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Why do you pick her over the man?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 01:25 AM
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Why do you pick the average woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 01:22 AM
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Bro, fidelity and promiscuity are not the same thing…. When you enter a monogamous relationship with someone, the implied contract is you won’t cheat on each other. It’s not an end goal for the man and woman. So why are we using cheating as an analogy when the act of cheating itself is not the desired outcome?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 01:22 AM
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Oh thank god, someone who gets it. I’ve been debating with people here on why society finds it more impressive when a man is able to sleep with numerous women and why the opposite is not so impressive. Women can get sex very easily. Men cannot. That’s why there is a double standard around men sleeping around and women sleeping around. Whether that’s right or wrong is irrelevant. But the point stands: when you’re trying to obtain something, if it’s very hard for you to obtain, it stands to reason…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 01:20 AM
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Do you think that man should be going around, puffing his chest and exclaiming how amazing he is for beating a woman at arm wrestling? That he’s the fucking man and that he’s so amazing? Or would you roll your eyes at him if he did that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 01:16 AM
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Right. Men have a distinct biological advantage due to having 10-30x the amount of testosterone and significantly more muscle mass and bone density. So if that woman is able to overcome her biological disadvantage and compete against men and continue beating them against raw physical feats of strength, we should be impressed, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 01:13 AM
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You’re at an underground betting organization. They’ve picked an average man and an average woman from America and given them a task. Their mission is to have as much sex as possible with the opposite gender in 1 day. They cannot use money to buy or coerce sex from anyone. They have to use their own attractiveness, charm, and social skills to convince as many people to sleep with them within a 24 hour period as they can. They cannot lie and misrepresent who they are to dupe people. It’s a raw ta…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 01:11 AM
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Yes, because he jerks off with both hands (and feet).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 01:02 AM
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Let’s abstract out skill and technique and only focus on strength. Would society find it more impressive if a man beat a woman in raw physical strength? Or would society find the opposite more impressive - when a woman beats a man in raw strength?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 01:01 AM
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Yes, that is what I meant. When a man beats a woman in a competition of raw, physical strength, should we be impressed?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 01:00 AM
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Now what if she beat him? Should she get some praise?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 12:59 AM
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You really think a man beating a woman in arm wrestling is more impressive than if he beat another man of equal or greater strength than him?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 12:56 AM
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If an average man beats an average woman in an arm wrestling competition, should he be praised for being the superior athlete? Or would that be unfair?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 12:53 AM
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He was the superior athlete because he’s a man and has a biological advantage. Youre misinterpreting the word “recognize.” No duh they recognized that he won in the sense they acknowledged the objective reality that his score was higher than hers. But no one was going around saying omg omg omg he beat the Williams sisters, he’s so amazing, he’s such an accomplished athlete, we cannot BELIEVE he won. When you win a championship game after beating out everyone else in your class, people hype you u…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 12:45 AM
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Cheating IS bad between a monogamous couple because fidelity is the implied contract between the two. How are we having this conversation? Are you gaslighting me? When you have a gf or wife, do you want her cheating on you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 07:04 PM
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How is it irrelevant? It’s a core foundation we need to align on before we can debate how cheating is or isn’t applicable of an analogy. You can’t just bring up cheating while ignoring the implied assumption that cheating isn’t a desired behavior amongst couples…. Like what?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 07:03 PM
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What are you saying? Please state your premise more clearly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 06:59 PM
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Care to address the fidelity aspect?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 06:57 PM
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It’s a spectrum……… planning out someone’s murder and executing against it > killing someone inadvertently in a street fight > running over someone late at night. You just agreed with me btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 06:56 PM
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The equivalent of “no u”
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 06:55 PM
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I figured you’d cut and run at the critical juncture point where we establish fidelity to each other as a default state of being in a typical monogamous relationship. Hence why cheating is inapplicable. You’re also conflating effort with intent in the murder example. So, nice try there. Intent to kill is what makes premeditated murder different than an accidental murder, or manslaughter. A man dying from a street fight still conjures intent to harm, which is why it’s worse than accidentally runn…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 06:54 PM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 06:43 PM
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Ok I’ll play ball with your changing goalposts. You have a goal of building a life with that specific partner, yes? Why not do it with someone else?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 06:42 PM
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Crickets…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 06:41 PM
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This argument is ridiculous. Cheating isn’t a “crime” unless your partner finds out? Wow. Can’t believe you’re having to explain this to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 06:40 PM
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You don’t have a goal of having sex with your girlfriend or wife? Tf?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 06:32 PM
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I’ll play along. Sex with each other only is one of the default goals for couples, yes. You acknowledge that, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 06:30 PM
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The analogy is invalid. Cheating is not the default goal for couples. How you don’t see that blows my mind dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 06:28 PM
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Is cheating the default activity that couples strive towards?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 06:25 PM
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Do men and women try to have sex with each other?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 06:23 PM
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Are men and women in a competition to cheat? Is cheating something both sexes try to accomplish? Why are you using such a flawed, inapplicable analogy?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 06:21 PM
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If men played against women in the NBA and kept dominating them, no one in society would go around praising them for their superior talents. No. They’d say no shit, men have more physical skill pound for pound. That’s a comparable analogy. Comparing this to cheating is just laughable. I can’t believe y’all are falling for this flawed logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 06:19 PM
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How can you say with confidence that he’s being remembered for being the superior athlete vs being remembered simply for playing this unique match? Point is, no one’s going around saying WOW LOOK HE CRUSHED THE WILLIAMS SISTERS BECAUSE HES SO MUCH BETTER. No. They’re going around saying WOW REMEMBER THIS TIME 25 YEARS AGO WHEN THIS MAN BEAT THE VENUS SISTERS? THAT WAS A COOL MATCH UP BECAUSE THAT NEVER HAPPENS. No one is recognizing him for his talents. They’re recognizing him for the unusual ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 06:17 PM
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No I’m not saying he shouldn’t be declared a winner. I never said that. Stop putting words in my mouth. My point is no one would care that he won because it’s not impressive. And what’s your point about articles being written about that game 25 years later? What are the articles saying? Are they celebrating him as some amazing accomplished athlete that crushed the sisters?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 05:32 PM
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You know damn well if women willingly signed up against men and got dominated, the men would not be celebrated. And they shouldn’t be. It’s unfair. In 1998, Karsten Braasch, a 203rd ranked male tennis player played against Serena and Venus Williams back to back. He crushed them both handily. No one went around saying he was amazing for doing so. Why? Because he’s a man with a distinct biological advantage. Or are you saying we should celebrate him for crushing them? Sounds like it. I can’t belie…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 05:20 PM
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Answer my question next: if male and female athletes competed against each other and the men kept winning, should we celebrate the men?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 05:08 PM
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It would depend. Whichever party is more tempted to cheat and doesn’t is the more praise worthy partner. If a Victoria’s Secret model marries a hideous man and stays faithful, she’s more praise worthy. If a 10/10 billionaire man marries a regular woman and stays faithful, he’s more praise worthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 05:07 PM
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And my point is that your using cheating is flawed to begin with. It’s an invalid comparison. Facepalm.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 05:03 PM
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Murder and cheating are immoral with clear victims associated with them. Casual sex between consenting parties is not a crime nor does it result in any victims. You can’t use the effort angle in a victimless transaction to justify immoral crimes. You must be trolling me. Imagine NBA and WNBA players played against each other. The NBA men would absolutely dominate the women. We wouldn’t celebrate those men because they have a distinct advantage. Therefore their accomplishment there is not worthy …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 05:02 PM
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Casual sex is a victimless crime. Cheating is a crime with a victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 04:59 PM
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Why do you call me out for skipping out on questions (I didn’t) yet you continue to skip out on mine? The hypocrisy is ridiculous. Are you gaslighting me? Answer my question about the murder example and I’ll answer your latest question. I even called out you wouldn’t and you didn’t. Prove me wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 04:57 PM
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You’re continuing to ignore the specific parameter of ACCOMPLISHMENTS. Accomplishments are DESIRABLE THINGS people strive towards and put effort into. Cheating is not a DESIRABLE THING that people strive towards and put effort into. This is a multivariate analysis and you’re cherry picking the singular Effort variable to use that and explain away literally everything else in society. Using your logic of using EFFORT only, should we celebrate murderers who spend hours carving up a body vs murdere…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 04:51 PM
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I’m arguing with a woman who says that because single men are gassed up for being casanovas, women should be able to cheat on their partners with no moral repercussions. Make it make sense. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/11qjvu1/daily_community_chat_megathread/jc6faht/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 04:44 PM
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Your rationale doesn’t hold up. Cheating is a breach of contract. The amount of effort that goes into it to be a cheater is irrelevant. Murder is illegal. The amount of effort that goes into murdering someone is irrelevant. It’s the outcome that matters - not the effort. Your logic simply does not hold up. You’re also conflating whether something is immoral or not with whether something is celebrated or not. A woman who bench presses 350 pounds is a much bigger accomplishment than a man who benc…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 04:42 PM
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Cheating is a horrible example to use here and I’m honestly very surprised you’re using this as someone who’s smart enough to get into an oncology resident program. Cheating is immoral and wrong and it hurts the cheater’s partner. Single casanovas sleeping around with consensual partners does not hurt anyone they have an existing social contract with. Because they’re single. Using your logic, we should excuse someone from murder if they shoot someone in the head because it’s easier vs someone wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 04:31 PM
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I don’t understand how you think men being gassed up for sleeping with lots of women should excuse women from cheating. Those are two entirely different situations. Cheating is a breach of contract between the man and woman. Men being gassed up for being a Casanova breaches no implied contracts.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 04:15 PM
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Even the most attractive dude will get laps run around him by an equally attractive woman. Cheating is not a good analogy. Cheating is bad no matter what the circumstances. Edit: and society can try hard to flip this double standard but I can never see it changing until men and women get sex just as easily with each other. For as long as women control access to sex, this will persist.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 03:42 PM
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Why they succeed or fail in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 03:35 PM
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I wish we could see everyone’s faces, bodies, bank accounts, and demeanors here. It would explain a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 03:24 PM
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Ok cool, so you’re very educated and accomplished. You’re also old enough to not be immature. You should be capable of using logic and rationality when discussing nuanced points. These are my assumptions. I’m sure your family and friends celebrated you for making it into an oncology program. I’m assuming you studied hard and made personal sacrifices to achieve this. I’m assuming the program you made it into wasn’t as simple as saying I want to go and they accepted you. I’m assuming you had to co…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 03:18 PM
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Random tangent, can I ask how old you are and what educational and professional accomplishments you have? Very curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 03:02 PM
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You missed the point. But I admittedly didn’t set up my comment well, either, so it’s understandable.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 02:59 PM
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I guarantee you if you put two identical men next to each other and showed all the women they slept with and asked a panel of women to rate who they find more appealing, they would on average pick the guy who slept with more, attractive women than the man with less experience sleeping with attractive women. It’s basic pre selection: what’s so special about him that made all those attractive women want to sleep with him? Surely something must be good. Boom, interest and intrigue. And yes, society…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 02:58 PM
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LOL I clicked on your link and was NOT surprised who it was. I went through it with her yesterday, too. She kept nitpicking me on a phrase I used and said I was using it incorrectly when that wasn’t even the point of my comment. I finally asked her to define what it meant and she just cut and run and ignored me. She’s weak. People like her who are so confidently incorrect are destined to fail in life. They’ll never reach their max potential.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 02:54 PM
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You’re talking about the extremes, and there, I agree with you. A man who sleeps with hundreds of women probably has some issues. Same for a woman with a similar number. But a man who slept with, let’s say, 20 attractive women in his lifetime will be seen as more appealing to other women. A woman who slept with 20 attractive men in her lifetime will not be seen as more appealing to other men vs a woman who slept with, say 5 men. In practice, all of this is moot since we’re not all walking around…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 02:50 PM
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Imagine a society where you got paid money based on how much weight you could bench press. Men would be flush with cash and flexing hard, literally and figuratively. Women would roll their eyes at said men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 02:47 PM
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It makes logical sense. Getting sex is hard for men. Getting sex is easy for women. Society doesn’t celebrate easy accomplishments. Society celebrates difficult achievements. It’s why a woman would rather be with an experienced man vs a virgin, on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 02:44 PM
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Men and women are not equal. There are double standards for both sexes. Being perceived by society as a stud for male promiscuity is one of the few double standards men benefit from.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 02:40 PM
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Yep. People have too much pride. They see being wrong as weak. Since when is acknowledging and embracing the objective truth a weakness? It’s why ironically they will continue to be weak and unsuccessful in life. Because they don’t know how to learn, adapt, and evolve.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 02:38 PM
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I wrote a post about the state of this sub btw: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/11azi3m/meta_commentary_this_sub_is_mostly_ineffective_in/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 02:37 PM
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Like I said, as long as she’s not unhappy with her setup, ain’t nothing wrong with what she’s doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 02:35 PM
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Weak minded people don’t change their minds. Because they’re weak and think changing your mind in the face of data is a sign of weakness. It’s like a CEO that doubles down on a losing strategy instead of admitting they’re wrong and salvaging the business with a new approach. See: BlackBerry.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 02:33 PM
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Yep. It makes sense, too. Navigating relationships is hard and evokes a lot of emotions. The most unsuccessful posters are the most emotional. It’s a forum full of hammers that see everything as a nail to smash.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 02:32 PM
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People don’t come here to debate with intellectual honesty and analytical rigor. They come here to validate their pre conceived notions and cherry pick data that validate their beliefs while rejecting the ones that challenge them. Buncha weak minded men and women here.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 02:24 PM
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Prolly all the skeletons in your closet they see on full display.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 02:20 PM
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Both can be true at the same time. I think women who get upset about men preferring non-promiscuous women is because they’re insecure about being potentially seen as promiscuous themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 02:17 PM
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Yes, maybe. But if that’s not what they want and they want LTRs with these men, aren’t getting them consistently for months/years, and complain about it, then it’s open field for her to get told what she may be doing wrong. Maybe her standards are too high. Maybe she’s a raging bitch. Maybe she’s too entitled. Maybe she’s too sweet and a doormat.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 02:04 PM
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These women don’t understand that there are legions of attractive women out there who are failing to secure LTRs with the men they desire. These women routinely get led on and used for sex. As long as those women are okay with getting used, no problem. But if she’s been complaining about this for years and years, then she deserves to be told that her standards clearly are too high if she’s not being successful in getting what she wants. A broke man who’s balding can have his standards set for a …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 12:23 PM
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Yes. And that’s why men who don’t want to date promiscuous women should just walk away, too. The analogy though was to provide a situation where a woman could find herself feeling insecure about a man’s past behavior. To make it more relatable. Nearly everyone has insecurities. To shame someone for having them is stupid. It’s to shame someone for being human.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 12:16 PM
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I think the hottest is when you’re doing foreplay with a girl and she just gasps, please fuck me I need your cock inside me. That’s an ego boost.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 12:14 PM
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Different strokes for different folks. I’d hear “you’re fuckable” as you just pass the threshold of being fuckable (like you barely made the cut). I wouldn’t find that flattering at all. Keep it simple, “I really want to fuck you” or “I really want you to fuck me.” “You’re fuckable” doesn’t sound like a good line to use on either sex, IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 12:11 PM
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The point is he could’ve gotten his message across better. But he didn’t. And it revealed their personality incompatibilities. The irony is she sounds like the type of woman he’d actually like, physically. And he’d probably have seen that feminine side of her if he kept seeing her. But he aggressively confronted her about her attire and turned her off. If he didn’t cancel, I’m sure she would have as well. As for her, she probably does feel some sort of sting being rejected FIRST. Women can be fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 12:06 PM
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Lmaooooo
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 12:02 PM
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It’s a reasonable insecurity to have. What man wants to compete like that? Imagine you met a man and you dated for months. He’s quite the catch in most aspects but he’s not super romantic in the way you want or like. Let’s say he never treats you to dates, never buys you flowers, never tries to woo you, etc. and let’s just assume that’s the type of romance you like. Then you scroll through his IG and see old pics of him with his exes. He’s clearly been super romantic with them, buying them bouqu…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 11:54 AM
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We men are known to have big egos. And a lot of women know some men have inflated egos. And that deflating egos is a way to put us in our spot. Women also tend to be incredibly insecure in specific areas of their lives, but most often around looks. You’d be shocked at how hyper specific they can be in developing an insecurity: why do I have stretch marks on my chest when I’m relatively flat chested, why is my nose bridge XYZ, why is my left tit smaller than my right tit, why doesn’t this dress f…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 11:48 AM
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Dude’s problem was airing out his displeasure with her dress in such a petulant way to his date. If it was such a big deal for him, he could’ve simply ghosted her or declined a second date or not ask for one. OR he could’ve brought it up in a much more flirty manner down the line once he got to know her better, either directly or indirectly. He could hint how he loves it when women dress in such a way. Or if they have great rapport and comfort, he could tell her how much he liked her look in a c…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 11:36 AM
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No one’s disputing that. We’re talking about averages though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 02:30 AM
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I agree, 100k is hardly rich. Yet a lot of men still think it’s their golden ticket to swimming in young pussy. And no it doesn’t rub me the wrong way at all. I’m a dude. And I’ll be in my 40s in a handful of years. So if anything this would be in my best interests to believe it to be true. But I’m rational enough to understand the average younger woman is not going to want me because of my older looks. The best I’ll be able to do is attract them with wealth. But I plan on being married before t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 02:14 AM
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That makes sense. And it still explains why older women are more willing to relax their standards on looks and maintain them for wealth. Because that’s what is more important to raising a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 02:11 AM
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Ok now you’re talking about old rich men as if old men are all rich. Old rich men buying sugar baby company is not the same thing as young women naturally having raw lust for old men. Y’all sound as delusional as the post wall women. You may not be an old man right now but a lot of younger men still believe in this kopium that “I’ll finally get my shot at young pussy” once I become old and make $100k after 30 years of work experience. And in 30 years, 100k will be the equivalent of $30k today.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 02:01 AM
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I think that’s because the women in their age range are also most eager to find men. Post wall women have no shame messaging and seeking men. It’s not because there’s a huge source of outbound attention from young women going to these substantially older men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 01:50 AM
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People misinterpret that stat to fuel their own narrative. I’m sure a portion are dating men older than 30, but this isn’t some aha moment showing all these young women are dating significantly older men. If they were, we’d see it out and about. I think the more plausible scenario is that the men and women surveyed are using different definitions of “single.” Men are likely fucking and dating numerous women but calling themselves single because they aren’t in a committed, defined relationship. W…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 01:48 AM
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Are you referring to the data that show men in the ages 35-44 get the most number of messages on dating apps?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 01:45 AM
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It is pure kopium on their end. Young women do not want old men. Plain and simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 01:38 AM
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Never said it was fresh. And apparently the data back it up per the WaPo. I imagine the correlation breaks down with the younger generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 01:33 AM
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Okay, well, when it comes to the very topic of feminist ideals, adhering to what’s cool and not cool is one of the primary points. Your analogy about physical violence doesn’t stand. That’s universally wrong and a crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 01:20 AM
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But again, she’s saying that in a forum full of women who do believe in those ideals of submitting to a man. It’s totally cool and okay for you to privately disagree with that. But, again, assuming you’re a modern feminist, it’s not cool for you to publicly shame her for that. If she were posting that on a more mainstream subreddit, I think you’d have some ground to stand on. But she didn’t. She genuinely believes it’s okay to submit to her man and let him dictate her wardrobe and social media h…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 01:09 AM
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Feminism means that men and women are equal and modern feminism goes further to say that women should choose how they want to live: whether that means boss babe career woman, or stay at home mom who wants to submit to her husband. I think this is simply a case of you disagreeing with how she wants to live as a woman. You’re entitled to your opinion that she’s wrong. But it’s not a great look tbh for you to shame someone for living how they want if it makes them happy. How would you feel if she b…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 01:01 AM
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Are you a feminist though? Because that’s a critical point we need to establish before we can consider your reaction to her fair or not. If you’re a feminist, I don’t think you have a leg to stand on here, unfortunately. It seems like you both simply have a fundamental disagreement on your approaches to life and how you view the male / female dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 12:49 AM
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Hmm, the last two I think don’t count because she’s posting in a community of like minded women. I think it’s fair for her to share her views how she sees fit amongst women who share similar views. She’s also not shaming or forcing these women to do as she believes is right. She’s merely stating her views. Isn’t that feminism? Letting women choose how they want to live? As for the first one, I interpret that as her using woman in the 3rd person but really as a proxy for herself (sorta like if I …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 12:32 AM
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In my limited experience, the most sexually deviant people I’ve come across were very very unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 12:24 AM
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I don’t think it’s racist but I think a lot of minority races are not seen as broadly appealing because they are minorities and therefore most people don’t spend a lot of time around time. Simply being exposed to them in media is not enough. I’m talking about spending time with them in person. I remember I used to not be attracted to Indian women. But when I went to college and made some Indian friends and became exposed to a lot more Indian women, I found myself being attracted to them. Now I r…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 12:19 AM
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Can you link me to said comment? I’d like to see the word choice, context, and framing myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 12:11 AM
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Politically conservative and traditional in terms of gender roles. TikTok is not the best source but I see a lot of videos of very attractive women clamoring to become stay at home girlfriends or stay at home wives to rich men. They want to have their lifestyle funded by them so they can drive their white range rovers to do Pilates at Equinox at 8 am, followed by a trip to Erewhon for a $20 Kendall Jenner smoothie, followed by a nice sushi lunch with the girlfriends, followed by preparing a dinn…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 12:09 AM
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Makes sense. Thanks for posting.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 12:07 AM
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Interesting. I could see how you could see that esp if you’re used to seeing conservative Karen MAGAs from Arkansas saying dumb shit to support Trump. But as someone who has broad exposure to lots of women, young and old, liberal and conservative, my experience says the opposite. Someone else also just linked a WaPo article confirming my suspicions. I can’t read it due to a paywall, but looks like the evidence so far points more towards my observations.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 12:03 AM
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Lol there it is. Too bad it’s behind a paywall. Washington Post is a credible source, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 11:58 PM
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Are you saying the more physically attractive a woman is, the more likely she is to be a raging feminist? Per your experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 11:58 PM
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I’m aware of confirmation bias and have been trying to check myself on it lately. Even when I go on the dating apps, I see a clear trend where the most attractive women tend to be moderate or conservative. I live in a big city so there are definitely attractive, liberal women. But those super attractive women who are dolled up to the nines, have pics on private jets and Nobu on a Monday evening are conservative at a far higher rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 11:57 PM
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Has anyone else noticed a loose, negative correlation between a) the level of physical attractiveness a woman has and b) the odds she will be a raging feminist? It makes reasonable sense, too. Attractive women stand to benefit the most from conservative and traditional values. They’re more likely to know they’re attractive and benefit from men with money, resources, and attention. Why would they want to go 50/50 on a date when a man will simply fly them out to get Omakase at a Michelin star rest…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 11:50 PM
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I think her believing western women don’t know how to be women is simply a belief. But it’s not a belief she acts upon. She’s not actively challenging these women (like you are to her) regarding their lifestyles. I therefore see no hypocrisy coming from her end. You acknowledge a core tenet of modern feminism is basically to let women pick and choose how they want to live, right? So why are you shaming her so much for how she chooses to live? It seems like the hypocrisy is really coming from you…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 11:42 PM
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The list of idiot posters I make mental note of grows by the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 08:01 PM
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That’s fair. You have your own dating style and preferences and apply a framework against it to weed out women who don’t match your pace. I respect that. I am more flexible and treat the pace differently based on the individual woman. I tend to prefer having an emotional connection with a woman before having sex because meaningless sex is incredibly ungratifying to me and I feel empty afterwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 07:59 PM
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I don’t think we should apply such rigid rules to dating. Just go with the flow and read her vibe and body language. Trying to force fit every date into such a narrow framework will not work.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 07:26 PM
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It’s implied he wants to have sex with her. That’s why he’s dating her. But the dude just invited her over to his place on a second date. Now it’s much more real. It’s reasonable for her to be hesitant about going if she’s not ready to have sex yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 07:21 PM
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Oh boy, don’t even get me started on financial abortions. I’ve debated this endlessly with people here and the argument for them simply boils down to “women carry the personal cost of literally carrying a baby and that’s inherently unfair, so to make up for this inequality, men have to pay for whatever the woman decides.”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 07:07 PM
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Right. Which is why I don’t spend much time with her or date her seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 05:56 PM
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Yeah, exactly. She’s very attractive and fits my type physically but she’s also very solipsistic and boring to converse with as a result. My ideal situation is she just comes over, we hang out for a bit, fuck, and then she leaves.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 05:35 PM
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Yes. He’s older and married with kids now. But he’s very charming and charismatic. Complete narcissist. And insanely wealthy. Facially handsome, average height. His charisma is what draws people in though. He’s the most charismatic person I’ve met in my entire life.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 05:32 PM
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TwoX women are straight up misandrists for the most part. FDS women are women who hate all men except the top 1% of them. They’ll bend over backwards to snag one.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 05:24 PM
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Two weeks for me. Was gonna have sex with my FWB on Saturday but I woke up with a migraine. She also wanted to go to an art exhibit beforehand. So I just canceled instead. Life of a lowish libido man.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 05:23 PM
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I think it’s simply wishful thinking and a slight tinge of naivety (hope?) that maybe this guy is not like the rest. That’s why I never invite women back to my place until it’s been 3-5 dates, we’ve made out plenty and heavily already, AND I can tell she’s down for me, OR she invites me back to her place first. Long story short, I only invite them back when I have near certainty she’s down for whatever happens. Women are not hard to read at all. Men continuously stub themselves in the foot by es…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 05:13 PM
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Q4All: when was the last time you changed your mind or stance on something while discussing something in this sub OR admitted you were wrong? It could be as innocuous and small as “oh I used the wrong phrase” to “my entire beliefs about X are now different.” I’ll start first: I thought the female delusion calculator had a faulty method of calculating its numbers (specifically using the wrong denominator). I wrote a comment on a post about it stating as such. The comment got a lot of upvotes. Som…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 05:11 PM
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Any decent man who isn’t sex crazed will be okay with rescheduling and taking it slower per your pace.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 05:04 PM
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Yes. Assume any man inviting you back to his place is also secretly hoping it leads to sex. Don’t even bother texting him you don’t want any sexual stuff to take place. Just say we should reschedule and see how he reacts.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 05:02 PM
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Weak people don’t change their minds in the presence of data and facts because in their (weak) minds, changing their minds is a sign of weakness. So they remain weak and never reach their max potential.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 05:00 PM
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Why do pretty women think wealthy men should be grateful for their company? You know pretty women are in excess abundance compared to wealthy men, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 04:58 PM
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Yup. Just had this exact experience. It’s so refreshing when I get to debate with someone who isn’t a complete idiot.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 04:50 PM
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I could tell you’d be the type to cut and run. In b4 “I don’t waste my time… blah blah ad hominem”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 04:47 PM
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Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 04:40 PM
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And the other 137% don’t know how to take these stats as euphemisms and not literal, absolute truths.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 04:28 PM
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Only 10% or so of the posters here know how to debate earnestly with logic and linear reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 04:25 PM
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Can you please define what skeletons in the closet means? You literally deflected everything and repeated the same false, talking point you said earlier. You don’t know how to debate with intellectual honesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 04:21 PM
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Why are you so fixated on the phrase skeletons in the closet? It simply means unsavory things about one’s past that one doesn’t want out in the open. That can be as innocuous as being a petty thief when you were 16 to as horrendous as being a serial killer. Were you an escort in your past? Have you sold yourself for money? Why does it bother you so much that I shat on both genders for doing things the opposite gender doesn’t like? There’s something deeper at play here. Maybe you’re just upset th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 04:13 PM
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Lol “no u.” The arguments of someone who can clearly and decisively dismantle my argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 04:02 PM
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It’s not the profiting. It’s just gross. I don’t want to date a woman who sold her body for sex no more than a woman wants to date a man who pays escorts for sex. Why are you so triggered here? I don’t think anything I said is controversial. Why does it bother you so much? How would you feel if your boyfriend or husband used to sleep with escorts? No biggie? Fine then you won’t understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 04:00 PM
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Who said anything about “worst?” I equated unsavory behaviors of the other gender. Men don’t like women who were promiscuous. Women don’t like men who fuck escorts and cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 03:37 PM
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You missed the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 03:28 PM
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If a man pays a sugar baby for sex, is only he using her? Or is she using him, too? Sometimes men “win” by pretending to be a SD and fucking the SB without payment. Sometimes women “win” by fleecing the man for money and gifts and never putting out. And you missed the last sentence from my paragraph about women manipulating men to get what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 02:59 PM
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I’m convinced that the more attractive a woman is, the more skeletons she’ll have in her closet, much like a wealthy man. Wealthy men (I’m talking millionaire plus) of high status tend to cheat, pay for escorts, have sugar babies, etc things that they don’t necessarily want to air out in the open during board meetings. They tend to view women as objects, too, to collect and fuck. Similarly, I think a lot of very attractive women (8s and above) have similar skeletons: being sugar babies, only fan…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 02:50 PM
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Make up is temporary. Filters… really? Let me photoshop my bank account and add a couple zeroes. Plastic surgery won’t turn an unattractive woman into a super model.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 10:57 AM
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I’m a man and I see a therapist weekly. He’s awesome and I find it to be a very helpful outlet to process my stressors and thoughts. He will challenge my thinking and make me see new perspectives. I recommend it for everyone if they have the means. I will say though, as a man, I prefer male therapists. They just understand you better.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 01:38 AM
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Yes, but her look with makeup is not permanent. At night she reverts back to her real self.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 10:00 PM
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Oh yeah, that’s right. I read about that when researching this last week.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 09:40 PM
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Some of her comments indicate she’d respect his wishes to not be an active parent. I’m assuming that means she wouldn’t sue him for child support if he were to decline being an active father. Though I am curious why she decided to keep the kid when not wanting to be a mother is what caused their breakup to begin with. Very fickle.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 08:51 PM
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Hmm I can’t find the username of the FDSer who tried to stir an argument with me. Does this person who messaged you have a flair to the effect of something femme fatale?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 08:33 PM
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Does her username start with the letter S and end with A?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 08:19 PM
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No one will disagree here.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 07:13 PM
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I agree with everything you said, but we’re not debating how many more men or women are attractive/unattractive. We’re narrowly debating which gender has greater access to becoming attractive to the other gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 07:10 PM
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Have you spent time in the TwoX subreddit? It’s full of women complaining about male behavior and depravity. They point out examples of men calling out oppression against men and then ridicule them by stating how men commit all these horrible crimes, etc. It seems like no reasonable discourse can take place because emotions supersede logic and the two sides just talk past each other, digging in deeper and deeper into their own beliefs. It’s such a mess.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 07:04 PM
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Yeah, it’s a more extreme version of porn consumption. I think it will reduce the number of men who seek long term partners for sure. But what I don’t know is to what extent. 1%? 5%?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 06:58 PM
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Easier said than done, but those people could in theory learn a new craft or start their own business and strike it big. A hideous woman will never become a supermodel, however.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 06:45 PM
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Do you think on balance, women do more damage to men than women do to men? I think what you’re saying is women behave poorly more often but in a less damaging way, whereas men behave catastrophically damagingly, but exceedingly rarely?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 06:38 PM
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I don’t think any well adjusted man could find sex with a sex robot gratifying. I bet after each and every nut, he’ll feel disgusted with himself. That said I could see it reducing overall male thirst and rates of simping. So it could actually become more difficult for women to get cheap and easy attention. Personally, I wish I could invest in the sex toy industry. I think it will grow like gangbusters.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 06:34 PM
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This is an interesting thought exercise, but if we tried to quantify how bad each gender is in terms of damage done to each other and society, what would you say? Eg murder is worth 1000 points of badness. Cheating is maybe 50 points of badness. Lying is .2 points of badness etc. If you tallied it all up and summed it up for each gender, which gender would have the most points (the higher the number, the worse it is)?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 06:32 PM
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Good points. So how do we engage in productive dialogue about gender issues when women can always point out how much more oppressed they are in specific areas, like rape and murder? Call them out for dishonest debate?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 06:27 PM
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Depends on how you define malfeasance. I think it’s indisputable that men commit more horrible crimes, like murder and rape, than women do. Women’s crimes tend to be less violent.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 06:25 PM
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This.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 05:58 PM
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I’m a man and I disagree. Just like how a short man is fucked because of genetics, women who aren’t born with good looks to begin with are kind of screwed, too. But I think almost anyone has the capacity to become financially successful. The world’s information is at our fingertips. Anyone can become successful. Not anyone can become physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 05:57 PM
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The problem is when men raise societal issues against them, productive convo can’t be had because women can simply point to the worse crimes they face, like fucking death and rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 05:46 PM
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I’m convinced the women who post on FDS, vindicta, and diabla are seriously damaged individuals. Just like you said, they exhibit the same behavioral traits and rage towards the opposite sex as incels do. They so desperately want the other, but because they can’t get it, they turn to hatred and contempt.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 05:29 PM
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Honestly, idk what the solution is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 05:25 PM
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As much as I question modern feminism, women will always have the upper hand in winning the oppression Olympics. Men really need to stop being sex pests. Fucking stop harassing women, stop raping women, stop assaulting women, stop spiking their drinks, stop sending unwanted dick pics, stop lashing out at women for rejecting your advances. Yes, women do horrible shit to men, too. But arguably at a much lower rate than men do to women. It’s because of piece of shit men like this that better men ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 05:23 PM
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I’m walking away because your heels are so dug in that I truly don’t want to spend more time explaining why I think what she wrote isn’t a problem for men at large. She’s entitled to feel how she feels after all her life experiences. It’s just not worth your time trying to feel indignant and moral outrage over this woman. What’s your end goal here? To get all men and women here to agree with you that she’s some misandrist, hypocritical witch? And then what? You’ll feel self satisfied? And then w…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 02:41 PM
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This is shallow of me but she’s not attractive enough to be so entitled like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 02:38 PM
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I see you’re in your era of red pill rage where you’re looking for reasons to hate women. So you find this post that shows what you perceive to be a woman hating all men, and it really really tickles your fancy. Hope you can sort through it all. Best of luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 02:23 PM
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No. I agree with her that some men are indeed sex pests. And I’m specifically referring to the ones she mentioned who became obsessed with her to the point of asking her to leave her husband. And the ones who are so sex crazed that they’d rub their dicks against concrete to get off. All the other men she slept with consensually without issues are fine. Thus, overall, no issues with what she wrote. Learn to be a bit more nuanced.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 01:38 PM
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What’s your point? That she’s a hypocrite for saying men are sex animals?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 12:16 PM
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It’s not so much that these women have sex with a chad millionaire once and they become delusional. They get continual attention and access to sex with men that are arguably out of their league. And they keep getting used by men who never have any intention of dating them. This is how they become stubborn in their standards that have no basis in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 04:38 AM
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I think you’re right that a ton of men are delusional too and think they’re better than they really are. But you’re also delusional if you think there aren’t women out there who get strung along and used by men they’re not used to getting attention from and setting him as their standard moving forward. Sure, you can call that “don’t settle for someone you’re not attracted to” but one could say the same to a loser man who wants to only date models.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 04:12 AM
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Did you see that screenshot of a profile I ran into? What’s your take on that woman’s dating philosophy?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 03:57 AM
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Not high standards. Hypocritical standards. I’ll concede that I am conflating too much with feminism itself. I should separate out the political elements of feminism from the dating / social norm aspects of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 03:37 AM
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I like homegirls a lot. Problem is I’m 34 and that feels more like a thing you can say in your 20s only lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 03:35 AM
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Buddy to me still mostly implies a guy friend. There’s simply no equivalent. And lady friend sounds kinda neckbeardy lol. I guess chick friend could work. Though if I heard any of my guy friends say chick friend I’d prolly lightly call it out and laugh about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 03:18 AM
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That’s certainly better, esp if she’s modestly dressed. And by that I mean it’s totally fine to wear dresses and the occasional beach pic for travel. But you know what I mean when I say there are women who post pics of themselves where it’s CLEARLY for attention from men. I’d still kiiinda question why most of her pics are of her. But if it’s because she posts maybe once a couple months, that seems fair. It’s when she’s posting pics of herself (tasteful or not) every couple days where I wonder i…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 03:14 AM
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Shower thought: I find it annoying we don’t have a more casual, commonly used female version of “guy” to use when referring to women. Women can say “my guy friends” but it’d be weird for a man to say “my gal friends” and it’d also be kinda weird to say “female friends” because it’s too clinical. But then you can’t really say “girl friends” because it can be misinterpreted as romantic girlfriends. I lowkey think about this every single time I refer to my female friends in everyday talk lol. And I…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 03:08 AM
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I’ve never explicitly looked for signs of this tbh. I just get to know the woman and get context clues from how she carries herself. If she has an IG full of thirst traps I’d be wary though. Screams of narcissism and an ego and self worth that are built on online attention from men. I fear those women will grow up to have shallow personalities and fragile egos that will wither away as she ages and loses her looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 02:31 AM
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Is your ideal answer simply something to the effect of X% of all women don’t get approached, ever? If so, I’d wager that to be around 10-15% of the female population.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 12:48 AM
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Influencers are sad. They live for the digital world at the cost of appreciating their physical reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 12:41 AM
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I feel sorry for the women who are below average in attractiveness. They probably have a similar experience as many men in terms of feeling unseen and undesirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 12:40 AM
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I think we need to be crystal clear in how we define abusive. What specific activities and behaviors are you thinking about when it comes to abusive Chads?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 11:11 PM
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Gotcha. I would have just specified Chad and not abusive. Abusive has a much different connotation than Chad. So your point is that if Chads were only fucking ugly girls, guys here wouldn’t keep referring to how Chads run shit in the sexual and dating marketplace?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 11:06 PM
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Probably not. So you’re trying to say that undesirable things are undesirable? And curious why you specify “abusive” men? Trying to piece everything together and I’m not clear what you’re getting at.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 10:55 PM
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What is the point you’re trying to make here? That men don’t care about ugly women?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 10:45 PM
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Yes, the critical error so many women make is conflating the caliber of men they can sleep with as the caliber of men they can get into relationships with. Men and women both tend to date and marry at their level or above. And when it comes to sex, women similarly only fuck at their level or above. But only men are happy to fuck down. Thus you have a bunch of 6s and 7s who think they deserve an 8, 9, 10 guy. That’s the real tragedy: thinking they can’t be happy with an equivalent or slightly “be…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 09:52 PM
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One issue I take with your comment here is that you unilaterally reject the assertion without even explaining how or why your rejection of said assertion is true by using vague statements that give you too much plausible deniability. You say a woman who dated a 6’6” athlete with the face of a model isn’t attracted to you because “she simply isn’t really all that into you.” What does that even mean? Why is she not into the guy? You didn’t explore that at all. You just said it was incorrect and us…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 07:16 PM
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I painted with too broad a set of strokes, so I’ll accept this criticism for my assertions. Let me be hyper specific: the women I run into in my day to day life (at work, my friends, etc) and the women I date tend to exhibit these traits I mentioned. I live in a major metropolitan city that’s very liberal. And I am liberal, too. I think too many men are sex pests, treat women like shit, use their bodies as fleshlights, harass them, and come across as entitled to their attention and or bodies. So…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 07:04 PM
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I think a lot of modern adult women love to reject old double standards and outdated ideals that disadvantage them, cherry pick new ideals that would benefit them and fight for them, while happily accepting the old double standards that continue to benefit them. I’m a modern, independent woman who doesn’t need a man, but a man needs to approach me 100% of the time and pay for all the dates. I’m a strong, powerful woman who deserves to have a seat at the Fortune 500 board room table, but I don’t …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 05:57 PM
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I’ve seen a couple relationship advice posts where basically a man finds out that the love of his life is actually alpha widowed. They’ve been happily married (or so he thought) for years. And then he overhears his wife drunkenly confiding to her BFF that she “loves husband but he just doesn’t do it for me the way Chad did in the past.” Soul crushing. All the “I love you” and happy moments they’ve had together suddenly are casted into doubt. I would go crazy if that ever happened to me, wonderin…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 05:50 PM
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Yes. It just shows they’re shitty people. My point is you can’t fight against Bad Thing that men do and then turn right around and do same Bad Thing against men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 05:36 PM
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This is a perfect example of how using analogies can cause people to talk past each other. I think OP’s example was not the best one, but I still understood his point. There’s no point in trying to compare the literal examples in the analogy. That’s not the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 05:34 PM
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For sure. And using her was not the best example because she’s a kid basically and Tate is a grown ass man. But my point still stands for older, more mature women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 05:31 PM
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It was effective in achieving her desired goals: to hurt his ego, get her clap back, and get online clout in the process. But if she ever starts fighting against body shaming against women, I would never take her seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 05:21 PM
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Modern / liberal feminists who use body shaming, sex shaming, etc insults against men are full of shit. Eg: even though I think Andrew Tate is a piece of shit, Greta Thunberg saying “small dick energy” against him erodes her cause. She stooped down to his level.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 05:05 PM
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I think the question basically boils down to: when you start attaining a certain level of something, does it become harder to accept something lesser? And the answer, most likely, is yes. If you used to earn $50k and thought that was your ceiling, but somehow got a $100k job, all of a sudden that $50k you used to be satisfied with becomes less compelling. So yes, it’s reasonable to assume that BOTH genders will have their expectations raised when they start fucking with “higher level” people. Us…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 05:02 PM
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Another poster pointed out I was wrong. The calculator does include only the selected age range in the denominator. And you’re right. I thought about it after and the denominator could arguably only include men of that specific race, or income, etc. I stand corrected.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 04:49 PM
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0.3% for me
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 04:06 PM
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You mean having sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 03:39 PM
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I just found out I’m wrong. It actually does use your selected age range as the denominator. Wow.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 03:18 PM
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Oh wow, you’re right! Holy shit. I stand corrected.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 03:17 PM
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Is that true? Can you share how you know this to be true? I’m open to being wrong and would love to know if I’m actually wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 03:00 PM
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If the men are abusive then yes that’s bad and he should be shamed for that. But let’s say the man is dating a younger woman and is not abusive. He gently shares his preferences like “it’s important to me that my partner not go out to bars and clubs because it makes me feel uncomfortable when drunk men try to hit on you. I know and trust you won’t do anything, but it still makes me uncomfortable.” And from there, she decides to go or not and whether to stay or leave the relationship. Is the olde…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 02:43 PM
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Ok cool, feel free to not engage in this then. I don’t want to engage with you further on this because I know it won’t go anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 02:34 PM
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And herein lies my point: it all comes down to moral value judgments and how they differ between the genders. For women, wanting a man to be ambitious, confident, strong, etc are “good” and society universally accepts these as “good.” For men, wanting a woman to be chaste, agreeable, more submissive, etc are seen as “bad” by society. This is coming from a man who does NOT want a submissive etc woman. But it shows the double standard by society: male preferences are shamed and bad, but women’s ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 02:32 PM
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What the fuck are YOU talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 02:26 PM
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Let’s say a woman sees a man who’s content with working minimum wage for his entire life. He’s not motivated by money and he’s incredibly happy living a simple life. But she wants more. She wants him to be “more ambitious.” So they start dating and she makes quips here and there “wow how nice would it be if we could do XYZ,” and the guy starts to think, “shit I really like her, she wants to do XYZ, let me figure out how to obtain that.” So he works harder. He has less free time. He starts compet…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 02:21 PM
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Not a lot of men say that. But a lot of red pill manosphere men say this. It’s a common rationale on fresh and fit for why they want to date younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 02:12 PM
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Let’s abstract out age and all those parameters and simply focus on the motivations behind why someone would have a particular dating goal. Age and all that are a red herring imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 02:12 PM
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Correct. The amount of unfounded indignation this stupid calculator engenders in men is through the roof. It’s really dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 02:10 PM
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Food for thought: a lot of manosphere men want to date way younger (18-24 let’s say) regardless of how old they are. They say it’s because these women are more coachable and will follow their program / lead. This pisses off a lot of women. “I’m not a fucking dog to be trained.” “It’s creepy that you want to groom and control these women.” Etc. But when women want to date a man and says “I can change him,” there isn’t much moral outrage and indignation. Why is that? The basic principle for both i…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 02:07 PM
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Y’all, I wrote a post about this. THE CALCULATOR IS FLAWED. The data inputs it is derived from are accurate. But the denominator the creator uses is WRONG. What this calculator does is tell you what percentage of ALL men in the US your parameters make him out to be. And the critical fucking flaw is that it compares against men of ALL ages. That’s not right. Women aren’t trying to date babies aged 0-18 or grandpas aged 50-80. So it’s not correct to include them in the math as potential suitors. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 01:51 PM
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Can confirm. Have dated many women and a handful downright simp for me when they’re wayyyy into me. Wanting to take me out for brunch, sending me chocolates (delivery) during the week, cooking for me and dropping off food in a Tupperware, etc. Most women don’t do this. But some will. And those who do are ride or die for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 01:41 PM
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That’s not how I interpreted her post at all. I’m a man and I can acknowledge that a typical guy is open to dating almost any type of woman as long as he’s very attracted to her. How far he’s willing to go and how seriously he’ll take it is very dependent on the individual man. But assuming that 90% of the guys who hit on her just wanted to fuck for the most part, her comment makes sense and reads as less of a humble brag and more of a reflection of reality for women. You thinking it’s a humble …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 01:37 PM
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How can one NOT have an ego that reaches the sun when you know you have opportunities like this from merely existing without having to sell yourself in any way except giving some attention here and there? These simps are the fucking worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 01:26 PM
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What? Did you read MY comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 01:13 PM
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I’m the same height and I prefer taller women but only up to 5’9” or so. Any taller and my brain starts seeing them in a more masculine light.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 09:44 PM
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I mean, I could see it being sliiightly different for women on the margins. I do think more women than men find competition attractive actually. It’s social proof. Put a man in a bar and surround him with hot women who are way into him. All the other women will notice and want him even more. I see this primarily with super attractive women where competition amongst themselves for top tier men is intense. They love to be the one who landed a desirable man, since they “won” So that’s probably what…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 06:56 PM
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It’s all about consistency. Is she texting slower without explainable reasons (travel, illness, life stressors)? Is she less enthusiastic in messages and or seeing you? Is she less available? Etc As soon as I notice a shift in anything, I stop pursuing. The scenario of me seeing her actively light up around someone else would push me to completely abandon her. That’s a dead deal. I refuse to be anything other than someone’s #1 choice. And that’s a philosophy everyone should adopt.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 06:48 PM
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For me this comes down to, is she pulling back? It doesn’t matter why she’s pulling back. But if she’s pulling back, I don’t chase. I let her do her own thing. If she comes back, I decide if I still want her and go from there. But typically when a woman pulls back, I lose interest too and it kind of dooms the potential relationship on either end (even if she comes back). I typically will still see them but only have sex with them and nothing else. No LTR potential.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 06:41 PM
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Agreed. Her flair gives it away. She hates men but wants plausible deniability by saying “friendly” aka she won’t be outright malicious and mean about how she frames things, but still clearly harbors contempt for men at large. It’s actually scarier on a psychological level because it shows extreme calculation on her end. For the idiot men who are misogynists and end up saying females, it’s out of ignorance and being an inadvertent dumb fuck. So the fact that she’d weaponize that for herself and …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 05:37 PM
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The way she deliberately writes males for men and women for women makes me laugh.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 05:23 PM
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Yep, 100%. I have attachment issues and don’t like opening up and being vulnerable. So I like sex in that regard (even tho I’m relatively low libido) because it’s one of the “safer” ways to feel vulnerable and connected. But sex with a girl you’re bonded with emotionally >>>>>>>>>>> unemotional sex with a girl, no matter how hot she is. If I’m not into her on an emotional level, once I nut, I don’t really feel anything for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 03:42 PM
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Thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 02:59 PM
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She’s the one who got away, sexually. But I don’t miss her in a romantic sense and would not date her again even if I could unless it was strictly FWB
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 02:52 PM
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I never liked her as much as she liked me. The sex was amazing but beyond that I was never able to develop a deep emotional connection with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 02:51 PM
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Yeah, she had a high libido too. She was one of the few exes I’ve had who was DOWN for me. Like a complete simp for me. Would want to buy me dinners (even tho I made many many many multiples more than her), would send me chocolates and delivery cookies throughout the day, would cry after sex bc I was going to be moving to a new state for work (she wanted long distance; I didn’t). She was such a sweet girl. I broke up with her and never regretted it but damn I do still miss and think about all th…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 02:15 PM
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I don’t see an issue with what she wrote. It’s true that some men are complete animals overridden by their sex drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 02:11 PM
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I can validate this from the male experience. One of my exes was big into consensual non consent. Sort of like free use. I could just fuck her wherever, whenever. Even during sleep, unless she had a hair band on her nightstand. We had a safe word as well The first time I did it was in bed at 4 am. We had sex earlier so were sleeping naked anyway. I woke up horny again and just fucked her from behind and pushed her on her stomach and pounded her prone bone style with her face smothered in the pil…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 02:05 PM
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Thanks for explaining the process. Makes sense. Does the court enforce child support unilaterally without question? Or is there a question of “need” calculated first? For instance, if a billionaire heiress woman has a child with a bum broke man with zero assets and tons of debt, can she still sue him for child support? I think the answer is yes, she can sue for whatever. But would the courts mandate he pay child support even though the child arguably doesn’t “need” it?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 08:57 PM
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Can you elaborate? What was the gendered term he removed? Edit: oh wait nvm. Re read the op. He selectively discarded the group of plate spinning men. I forgot that was one of the identifying labels one could provide in this survey. Yeah in that case, this becomes more of a philosophical question: should these men count in this study? I think yes, when calculating averages. In short, we should keep all data. But we need to look at the means and the medians because they tell very different storie…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 08:52 PM
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Wow, that’s fascinating to me. Assuming the ability to meet a child’s needs is heavily dependent on income, how could they let an impoverished step father and bio mom let the bio father off the hook from child support? The courts would allow a child to be raised in destitute poverty as long as there is some sort of father figure in the household? Wouldn’t they want to mandate the bio father continue providing child support in the interests of the child?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 08:50 PM
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So as long as the bio father relinquishes his rights and a stepfather adopts the kid, the bio dad can be absolved of child support? Even if the stepdad and bio mom are in poverty and the child’s financial needs won’t be met?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 07:42 PM
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Is that how it works for when the scenario is flipped? If a man wants to walk away, the woman has to sue him first to collect child support?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 07:40 PM
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Gotcha. So as long as shitty people are self aware about being shitty and others know they’re self aware about being shitty, people still respect them?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 07:26 PM
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Why are we assuming these men are self aware?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 07:19 PM
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Be hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 07:18 PM
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By parental obligations do you mean child support? How do you define unfit?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 07:15 PM
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Right, assuming it’s a man married to the bio mom. So even if he has no income potential and the bio mom doesn’t either, the bio father can still be absolved of child support even if the new couple can’t reasonably financially support the kid? The courts would allow that? Doesn’t that work against the needs of the child?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 07:06 PM
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Cool, this works for me and seems fair. Does adoption require the parent to be financially fit? Eg can a jobless man with zero assets adopt a child?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 07:04 PM
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Ok cool, I’m fine with this setup then. So in the case of sperm jacking, should the man be absolved of child support if the sperm jacking woman can comfortably raise the child herself?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 07:01 PM
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So in a flip side scenario where a man wants to absolve his parental and financial obligations, if another man legally adopts the child, can the bio father be absolved of his child support payments?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 07:00 PM
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What if another woman legally adopts the child and the new couple cannot afford the child. Should the bio mother still be on the hook for child support?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 06:56 PM
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Lol you can’t rephrase what we wrote to however you see fit and then demand we explain how what we wrote isn’t the same thing as what you wrote. The onus is on you to substantiate the claim that it’s the same as cumming and bailing. You’re the plaintiff and I’m the defendant here. The burden of proof is on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 06:55 PM
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Fair enough. So she can absolve her financial responsibilities if the court determines that the child can live well WITHOUT her monetary contributions?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 06:53 PM
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She should determine whether she can afford to have the kid. If she can’t, she should abort. And because abortion is a scary, risky procedure, the man should financially contribute to offset the cost and emotional harm.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 06:48 PM
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So for the opposite scenario where it’s the man who wants to walk away, should the man be able to forego child support too if the mother can comfortably afford childcare and parenthood?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 06:47 PM
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But what you can’t do is ascribe malicious intent to his statistical analysis methodology when what he did was proper, standard procedure when it comes to statistical analysis. Removing extreme outliers is what you’re SUPPOSED to do. Your username implies you’re an engineer. Did you take any math or statistics classes in college? Asking for real. No snark. Do you know that this is the proper methodology?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 06:45 PM
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I’m not the one who characterized this as men cumming and bailing. You were.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 06:43 PM
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A man and woman have sex and she gets pregnant. They want to keep it, so the kid is born. After birth, the woman no longer wants to be a mother anymore. The man wants to be a father to the kid still. Should the woman be able to relinquish her parental rights? If yes, should she be able to absolve herself from child support payments to the man for 18 years?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 06:33 PM
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A guy wearing a condom and agreeing with a woman that they don’t want kids prior to sex who advocates for paper abortion when she gets pregnant because shit happens is NOT BAILING. You’re using bailing as a loaded term to paint the man as a bad actor.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 06:02 PM
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This is so intellectually dishonest. At best you simply aren’t aware because you’re not nuanced. At worst you’re being a malicious bad after arguing in bad faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 05:49 PM
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You’re consistent in maliciously reframing our viewpoints into negative, false equivalences yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 05:45 PM
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Same exact experience. When I’m dating a baddie, we fuck like rabbits. To start at least lol. And then it tapers off.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 05:40 PM
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A woman can cum during sex and get pregnant and abort. I’m going to call that cumming and bailing too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 05:36 PM
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I’m stopping here because I think you’re not able to grasp what I’m clearly articulating. That’s on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 04:45 PM
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Tell that to all the pro choice women who get pregnant and want to abort.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 04:34 PM
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This feels like belief rape. You’re putting beliefs I don’t have on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 04:34 PM
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Guy doesn’t want a kid. Guy gets a vasectomy. Guy finds a woman who doesn’t want kids either. Guy wears a condom. Woman gets pregnant. Woman changes her mind and wants kid. Guy still doesn’t want it. Guess that guy is a deadbeat too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 04:33 PM
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Because the employer knew the employee could get hurt (pregnant) and knew they didn’t have the funds (not ready to be a father) to support the employee.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 04:27 PM
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Man wears a condom. Condom fails. Woman gets pregnant. Guy doesn’t want a kid. Guess that guy is a deadbeat too. Woman steals man’s sperm from discarded condom. Gets pregnant. Guy doesn’t want a kid. Guess that guy is a deadbeat too. Stop using reckless actual deadbeats. No one here is an actual deadbeat. You’re being unreasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 04:20 PM
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You keep screeching that men should go to pro life states as if that’s what we want. We unilaterally reject that because we don’t believe in pro life arguments. We believe in pro choice arguments for both.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 04:16 PM
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This is too reductive and devoid of any nuance.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 04:13 PM
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….. no unknown risks ie women KNOW they can get pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 04:12 PM
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Then don’t have sex if you don’t want to carry an unwanted fetus? That’s what you tell men who don’t want their partners to carry an unwanted fetus.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 04:11 PM
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Not raped. Raped would be if the employee stole a set of keys that were protected from theft to do something risky, got injured, and sued the employer. My analogy in the comment is for women finding out they’re pregnant, the man saying please let’s not have a kid because we can’t afford it, and the woman proceeding anyway and getting bailed out.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 04:10 PM
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Yes, we want abortions. For both men and women. What are you arguing?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 04:08 PM
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This is all in the context of an accidental pregnancy where contraceptives fail. And you’re adding loaded baggage by saying the man bails like he’s a degenerate sex pest deadbeat piece of shit. We’re talking about good people who got unlucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 04:06 PM
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To take it even further, the employee here can steal the keys to work a risky job, take it, get injured, and still make the employer pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 04:06 PM
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Women know sex makes babies and babies need to be paid for too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 04:03 PM
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I’m advocating that both sexes can make mistakes but because only women have an option to avoid it, men should too
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 03:12 PM
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A child he never wanted to begin with…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 03:03 PM
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Man and woman have sex. Both don’t want kids. Woman gets pregnant. Man still doesn’t want it. Woman now does. Woman gets to make him become a father. Man has no choice. Give him a choice to opt out. Woman can then decide if she still wants said kid. She’s an adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 03:02 PM
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Ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 02:59 PM
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The pushback was that the places where abortion is banned are fucked up and that they shouldn’t be banned. And by moving there, we’re enabling a system we don’t agree with. You’re putting bad faith takes in our mouths that we explicitly and specifically do not want. I already caught you in a gotcha moment yesterday. I love catching you in another one.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 02:58 PM
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Did you really think I was trying to assert this is exactly how construction jobs work in reality in this analogy I wrote?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 02:55 PM
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You say nonsense like this as if we’re trying to go around cumming in women and bail. Wtf? Literally who said they want to do that? Every man who’s been responding to your troll bait has been for elevating both genders so both genders have equal rights and say. And the specific problems we’re trying to prevent are men getting raped, baby trapped, and forced into unwanted pregnancies. Eagerly awaiting the whataboutisms you’re gonna say next.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 02:53 PM
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Educate me please daddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 02:50 PM
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You’re masking the prima facie error that the child exists and is born. No. We’re talking about what to do once both parties find out conception has occurred. Women choose to keep it or not. Men have no say in this, rightfully so. So they should have the choice to opt out of fatherhood. And the woman can decide if she still wants to proceed after that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 02:44 PM
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A construction company is about to hire a worker. The company tells the worker that there are risks to some of the jobs, but not all of them. The employee can choose which ones to take and they will get paid more for the riskier ones to offset said risk when both employer and employee agree the riskier jobs are suitable and needed/wanted from both parties. In addition, if the employee gets injured on those riskier jobs, the employer will compensate them because the government mandates such prote…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 02:42 PM
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You wrote “It proves how many men don't actually give a fuck about children when it has a chance of putting them at a disadvantage as the result of their own choices.” Key words: as a result of their own choices. Pregnancy is a result of your own choices: to have sex. The implication being you shouldn’t have had sex if you didn’t want a child. Of course you’re not going to agree with that talking point because that’s the talking point pro choice women get from pro life people. And yet here you a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 02:26 PM
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I’m not making myself clear enough because this is very nuanced. I’m actually in agreement with you in specific circumstances. If a man and woman jointly agree to wanting a child and then the man says he doesn’t want to help support it while maintaining all parental privileges and rights? Fucking full of shit and that man should be dragged. If a man and woman jointly agree to not wanting a child, no issues to resolve. If a man wants a woman to have a child and she doesn’t, well tough luck to him…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 02:20 PM
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No, they don’t. Women biologically carry so they have unique risks men don’t. But we’re talking about the choice to maintain pregnancy and go on with birth. Women should choose. They choose first. Great. Then let men choose if they want to ride along for the journey. Especially for an unwanted child. All I want is equal choice. Both parties have different risks and costs. But that doesn’t mean both parties shouldn’t have equal choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 02:06 PM
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I actually don’t. But I’m just using pro life talking points on you because you use them on men. In other words, use better logic and arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 01:53 PM
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Right? I want to see women get abortion rights because that’s what’s right in my world view. My solution is not for women to lose rights just because I don’t have them. What the fuck?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 01:52 PM
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She’s actually in agreement with us if you think about it. But where she loses me and you is she is basically saying “well it’s unfair for us too so you need to suffer unfairness as well.” Great moral standing. She wants to win the oppression Olympics and see men dragged down with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 01:47 PM
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Outliers are outliers and routinely discarded from analysis because they skew the mean results. One perhaps better way to look at n counts is to look at medians and not means. In fact that’s what I’d propose. Alternatively, discarding outliers multiple standard deviations outside the mean is proper. If you had two groups of 50 people each and we were trying to determine who to give more money to based on average income, but one group had a billionaire in it, we’d discard the billionaire because …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 01:44 PM
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Thanks for sharing. I just joined after reading the first post. It succinctly captures my sentiments as of late. I love it when feminists define feminism as equality for men and women yet only focus on equality for women. Just call it what it is instead of virtue signaling that they’re fighting for everyone. They’re not. I just want consistency. That is all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 01:39 PM
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I’m still a liberal dude who is for abortion rights, social equality, etc. but I will never ever befriend or date radical feminists. I now equate rad fems with misandry. They repulse me to my core now. I have a female friend who became intensely political and radical in her feminist ideologies and I no longer hang out with her. It’s all virtue signaling to get more Twitter followers, TikTok followers, views, and “AMEN SISTA” comments so they can feel good about themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 01:33 PM
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You don’t give a fuck about children when you abort them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 01:30 PM
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You’re not wrong in bringing up the practicalities of how to enable this and the very real world outcomes. But can we put that aside for one second and examine the merits of the argument at hand? Do we fundamentally agree that from a moral, philosophical, and principled standpoint that the current setup is unilaterally disadvantaged for men? If so, we can then proceed to figure out how to enable this in practicality. You’re resisting this idea because of the practical aspects. That’s reasonable.…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 01:28 PM
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This comment thread shows a self proclaimed rad fem playing this out EXACTLY how I framed it above. You cannot make this shit up. I’m right there with you. It honestly makes me feel less supportive of their cause tbh. I don’t want it to but it’s so hard to take them seriously when there’s this huge empathy gap from people who are supposed to be in theory the most empathetic. Feminism is at its core about equality for the sexes. And these supposed rad fems are not for that in this circumstance. B…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 01:17 PM
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Dude didn’t make or say any of those value judgments you’re accusing him of. Pure projection on your part. I totally understand why you’re reacting the way you are because a lot of dumb ass dipshit men will interpret it the way you think they will. But on an individual level, nothing what OP did was improper from a statistical methodology perspective, nor did he imply or state any of the assertions you made.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 12:46 PM
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I think the surprising finding that taller men have lower n counts is simply due to self selection bias. I’ll break this down linearly. From the male side, this sub is more likely to attract men who struggle with dating and sex Taller men are much rarer relatively Ergo, the few tall men who are here are likely to skew the results disproportionately because it will be very noisy and sensitive due to the small sample of tall men
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 12:44 PM
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I mean, you’re not wrong. But you’re not wrong for the wrong reasons. I want both sexes to have the same privileges. Not both sexes to not have the same privileges.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 12:17 PM
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Conservative pro lifer to pro choice women: keep your legs closed if you don’t want to deal with the consequences of sex. Pro choice women: no 2 second later. Pro choice women to pro choice men who also want paper abortions as an option: keep your dick in your pants if you don’t want to deal with the consequences of sex. MAKE IT MAKE SENSE (without regurgitating how it’s because women are the ones who have to go through pregnancy and birth; this is about PRINCIPLES).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 12:11 PM
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You sound like a pro lifer. checks flair The f?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 12:06 PM
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No. She’s morbidly obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 12:05 PM
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It isn’t fair. Roe v wade getting overturned is fucked up. However, some women still have some latitude here in that each state can decide. No where in the US does a single man have an exit path away from fatherhood like a woman (who lives in an abortion state) does, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 12:03 PM
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Which is disturbing. That’s maladjusted behavior. “Hurt people looking to hurt someone else” is not benign.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 12:00 PM
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It blows my mind when pro choice women use the “keep your dick in your pants” line against men. They’ll fight against pro-life people who use that same line to women who say pregnancy is just a consequence of your actions (sex), so if you don’t want to deal with it, keep your legs closed. And then 2 seconds later turn around and use that same line against men. Makes me shake my head so hard. Jfc.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 11:57 AM
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Yeah even here I so so many men who say shit that make me face palm. So it’s not unique to one gender only.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 11:53 AM
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I’m not even really thinking about you in this case. It’s the ones who hate the entire gender. People who proudly proclaim to be misogynists or misandrists in their flair. People who refer to their own gender as men/women and intentionally refer to the other as male/female almost as if to intentionally dehumanize them. I’d be so curious to meet them IRL to see what they’re like. Are they actually well adjusted “normal” people on the surface who harbor these views secretly, internally? Or are the…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 11:52 AM
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That’s fair. I do the same with this throwaway. But even then with those people using alt accounts, they’re still so full of hate. It’s disturbing, man. It’s the online version of “give a person a mask to see who they truly are.”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 04:52 AM
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Red pill men and feminist women whose entire Reddit handles are dedicated to bashing the other sex (eg exclusively posting on TwoX to complain about men only) are highly disturbing IMO. It’s like they’re SO frustrated and annoyed with the other sex that it consumes their entire online persona. That can’t be healthy. It can’t be healthy to be so hateful and spend so much time spewing hate. It’s like a breeding ground for extremist views. Makes you wonder what personal experiences they’ve had to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 04:44 AM
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There’s no hidden agenda, truly. I simply find it really interesting when women of different views clash online because in my experience, women tend not to criticize each other so overtly and explicitly (as admitted to me to by a small sample size of hyper progressive, liberal feminist female friends I have, which they consider a toxic feminine trait). My hunch is you feel a mixture of frustration and mild disgust with a tinge of thinking they’re mildly pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 04:40 AM
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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