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Support one another without bringing up women!!!!!! The mansopheres main focus is denigrating women. Focus on eachother and you’ll be golden I fucking guarantee. There are male resources that focus on male issues no one’s coming for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 12:38 PM
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I agree it’s fair and their right if they choose not to date other unattractive people. But for the love of God stop bitching about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 12:33 PM
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Men lack the same in-group preference women have. We divide along all lines, not just gender. The general vibe is competitive, not supportive. Not what I’ve witnessed with my male friends. Granted the way they bind differs from How I bind with women I witness them bond and be there for one another on a daily basis. I have heard “ I love you brother” mulitple multiple times The manosphere is focused on change, either personal or societal, while crying and comforting is seen as the realm of the po…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 12:31 PM
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What tf is the manosphere here for?!? My God untrain eachother to support one another and remember for the love of God it has nothing to do with women. Support eachother, actually support, be there for one another. Instead you got a bunch of lonely men who let’s be real could form some sort of online group where meet ups can happen if folks are close enough, the resources to battle loneliness head-on is in y’all’s hands and instead it’s something something bitches be hypergamous
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 12:27 PM
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And that’s fine. Women have nothing to do with this issue is essentially what you’re saying. Men know how to support one another they’re just choosing not to.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 12:25 PM
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I’m not you’re the one who stated women “are numbed by attention.” Was I wrong to assume you meant male attention? Look at the end of the day what you’re complaining about men can fix amongst eachother. I don’t know why men let eachother drown, but y’all do. You’re right women seek support in different ways, we interact in different ways. To put it bluntly male attention isn’t keeping us afloat. It doesn’t have the same value it would if the sexes were reversed.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 12:23 PM
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You must have edited your response your original response directly referenced ‘the real problem’ verbatim, that’s why I asked
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 06:04 AM
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That should change. Don’t you agree?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 06:03 AM
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Im ‘post wall’ According to the manosphere I should be feeling a drastic difference in support via male validation. I don’t. If men hitting on women was such a rich and satisfying source of attention Why are so few women on dating apps? It doesn’t make logical sense. That’s not to say there aren’t women who receive immense validation and pleasure from said attention it’s just not what the majority are experiencing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 06:02 AM
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Link?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 05:26 AM
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What’s the real problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 05:25 AM
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Can we stop circling back to women? There’s a barrier there between the sexes and understanding one another that isn’t there with your fellow man. Men shouldn’t be suffering in the manosphere, this is the perfect environment to support one another, why isn’t it happening?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 05:23 AM
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It’s surprising given the manospheres focus on women and pussy while they allow men to suffer isolation and loneliness. I’d think that would be their main focus. At the end of the day men aren’t there for one another it sounds like.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 05:20 AM
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What does a redpill euphemism have to do with emotional support from your fellow man?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 05:18 AM
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Not to belittle what you’re saying, it’s just hard to see through what point you’re trying to make with such sweeping assumptions about the female experience. Here’s the thing, I’m not even disagreeing that male and female loneliness is different but it’s not different because “ohhhh women have simps so they can’t be lonely” You’re viewing the lifestyle of influencers, which ironically is quite similar for the men and women in that atmosphere since good looking popular people no matter their sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 03:50 AM
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Are you really insinuating no men have meaningful friendships and relationships? I’m not saying these issues don’t exist I just don’t understand the sweeping ‘all men’ type statements.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 02:25 AM
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That’s really rough.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 02:22 AM
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Why do you think that is?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 02:19 AM
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You don’t have men to talk to?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 02:12 AM
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Do men not talk to one another?!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 02:12 AM
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600lb women have lines of men looking to court them. I’ve never had that experience. You can say “oh you must be ugly” but then that proves my point, and disproves yours. Am I blind to all the men lining up for a chance?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 09:11 PM
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That doesn’t even make logical sense. Look at the main insult here: women think chad wants to commit because he pumps and dumps her, she thinks that’s who wants a relationship with her! Think about it dude. If women were essentially men with tits like you’re insinuating and only wanted hookups there wouldn’t have been an influx of dating apps geared towards relationships, we’d be on tinder living out best lives yet tinder the straight peoples grindr is an utter and complete sausagefest why? Beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 12:27 PM
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You’re arguing against a stance I never made. So we don’t really have anything to debate
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 03:50 AM
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I genuinely dont get what youre insinuating. Can we just cut to the chase, id rather debate your actual stance than an insinuated one.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 03:44 AM
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Its almost as if men are more open to casual sex, a fact I previously addressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 03:38 AM
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My real world experience of being a woman seeking relationships helps shape my opinion as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 02:01 AM
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Stats say different
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 12:36 AM
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Stats say differently
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 12:35 AM
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God I wish that were true. My partner is a hot fucking commodity because he’s relationship oriented. He was on the dating apps for I think he said a week or two I was his first and only date from it. Before me he had many relationships that occurred naturally. I’m telling ya attractive and average dudes who want to settle down, are highly sought after, especially after 25
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 06:34 PM
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As in completely. No dating or sex. I disagree. Which is largely a straight male problem. Again disagree. Gay guys have a ton of base sexual attraction to work with, Higher sex drive, you can’t be angry women are built differently. the option to be passive and get approached if they don't have the social skills to do it themselves, Here’s the actual issue, it was just buried under a bunch of other things. Straight passive men will struggle in the dating world, hell gay passive men too, since gay…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 06:29 PM
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Maybe not but there’s a strong correlation going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 05:20 PM
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Never said it did. Men’s sex drive, combined with a lack of social shaming means they’re gonna be much more open to sex with more people.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 05:16 PM
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I do avoid those posts. But again far be it for me to tell people to stop engaging with a guy trolling. He chose to come in and be annoying. He can deal with the consequence. I don’t feel sorry for people who do shit like that. If someone needs help fucking ask for it, don’t post being an annoying twit saying hateful shit and spewing anger out online, then when they get it back act like a wounded bird. Nope. They’ll learn to stop if they get it back. Example of “ you have a shit personality” bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 05:04 PM
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As I said gay men have a shit ton of sex doesn’t mean they’re magically not visual. Here’s a reply from this post: SNAPCHAT….it’s ur best friend. As soon as I add someone I automatically block them on Grindr now matter how hot I think they are Bc as soon as I see them on snap I’m prepared to unadd them for exactly the reasons you’re complaining about. In fact honestly I block constantly…if they’re too old? Block. Too feminine for me? Block. Not my body type? Block. Unsolicited (gross) nudes? Blo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 04:50 PM
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What's wrong with being blackpilled? It’s self deprecating and to be blunt annoying to listen to on a consistent basis. I thought we agreed that women only like a small subset of men, For example. so why is it wrong for the rest of the men to be venting a little? Venting or asking for advise? If it’s venting and trolling disguised as asking for advice and people get annoyed and start being dicks, it’s kinda to be expected. Why do you feel it is necessary to insult them? I don’t. I don’t engage, …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 04:43 PM
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You contradicted yourself with the quoted Here’s an earlier paragraph: It is not clear why gay men have high rates of eating disorders," says Dr. Meyer. "One theory is that the values and norms in the gay men's community promote a body-centered focus and high expectations about physical appearance, so that, similar to what has been theorized about heterosexual women, they may feel pressure to maintain an ideal body image." Your rebuttal quote has the last sentence "This suggests that factors oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 03:45 PM
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OLD is infamous for unattractive men having zero chance and unattractive women still getting hundreds, if not thousand of dating opportunities. Dating or fucking? I’m average and used multiple OLD platforms (not tinder) I don’t know that my likes ever got to be in the thousands. Your rebuttal could be “ oh well you’re not average you must be ugly” it still doesn’t make sense that I wouldn’t have thousands of likes. I’ve gotten hundreds of like through the years that much is true, if I were to re…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 03:34 PM
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1.) do you have stats on that? And date or fuck? 2.) we aren’t speaking on dating up we’re speaking on ugly people dating one another which they do. Doesn’t take away from looks being incredibly important in the gay community
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 03:01 PM
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We’re speaking on a specific common type of interaction, if a dudes going online asking for dating advice and essentially trolling in the comments with his woe is me, fatalism, black pill, manosphere bullshit mainstream people are going to be dicks to him. If a guy is genuinely asking and seeking out help, we’ll it’s still pretty limited online but the odds of him getting advice there to help him are much higher
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 02:57 PM
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What’s there to be jealous about? I’ve been a young woman. I know what dating was like, I’d have to be a pretty stunted individual to not embrace the natural changes of life
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 02:38 PM
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Ugly straight people date eachother…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 02:13 PM
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It’s not lying if it’s used as a kiss off. It’s an insult, last I checked insults don’t need to be truthful. You’re confirming it’s a triggering response, meaning they’ll likely do it more since they know it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 01:29 PM
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Except it doesnt confirm anything gay men can be very brutal about looks. Gay men have a shit ton more sex but if the guys not attractive or he doesn’t fit in a niche it’s the same vicious cycle.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 01:19 PM
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Agree…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 01:12 PM
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When a person shows those characteristics people tend to stop wanting to help them. In these cases: its not your looks,it’s your personality Is less advise and more of a kiss off
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 01:11 PM
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Didn't say it did. I mean… yeah… Me: Individual’s autonomy isn’t community property. You: But it does come with community responsibility. Plenty of women who have low self esteem will date shitty men. Ugly people will date another ugly person so how do they find each other attractive? You think unattractive people romantically love one another because they have low self worth?!?! This goes back to what I was saying the other day that I get the impression that many gentlemen here do not believe p…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 10:34 PM
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Explain to me how each statement contradicted eachother because as far as I can see they don’t so I’d have no need to choose. If anything there may be a misunderstanding as I’m pretty sure they’re saying the same exact thing. Why is “ fat women are beautiful” such an offensive message to you though? Like they aren’t your type which is fine but they’re someone’s type, so is allowing them to feel attractive really that bad? Look at all the ‘short kings’ memes, talk etc. has it really done much to …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 10:24 PM
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So the issue isn’t these women being happy and healthy and not having low self esteem and worth it’s that they aren’t working to ensure they’re pleasing to the male gaze? Am I getting this right?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 10:16 PM
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The only reason I’d reject handsome adequate men is if I wasn’t single. You’re placing a false label on these men. Handsome adequate men are snatched up.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 10:14 PM
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They wouldn’t say that out of no where, it’s not a scenario where a man’s like how can I improve my dating chances and random people are jumping in with “your personality sucks.” I’ve seen those posts dudes come in with woe is me, incel and/or manosphere speak all of which are viewed as unattractive by the mainstream. It’s direct cause and effect going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 10:12 PM
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Who’s saying that?! Personality helps one within their own dating league! It’s sets one apart within their own dating league! Hell a man who’s charismatic enough may even be able to league jump but that doesn’t mean good personality = ugly man/attractive woman. Nope. I’m certainly not saying that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 12:26 PM
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Huh? Explain please.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 12:20 PM
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Did it work? If not what was the harm? Genuine question.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 12:19 PM
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I don’t know why you guys keep arguing sex and attraction being a virtuous sacrifice women must make for the good of society. If a large portion of women only want movie stars so be it. That’s their right, and the effects of that choice will be hers to deal with. If she’s alone and unhappy that’s her cross to bear. I don’t speak for those journalists, I don’t know their motivations to writing those articles. But I will say the subject isn’t changing attraction for either sex so it’s kind of comp…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 12:17 PM
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Nope my vagina has no responsibility to anyone. And I disagree about attraction there’s a lot that goes into it but my self esteem can be on the floor that doesn’t mean Im going to find disfigured disabled invalids attractive. I do think a lot goes into how our attractions are developed through and it would be interesting to look up. Society absolutely shapes it in many ways, but there’s biological imperatives there as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 12:12 PM
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I do not nor will I ever want to date an unattractive man. If that makes me superficial sound the alarms! Once the looks threshold is passed personality is incredible important as well as other attributes that doesn’t erase the looks threshold. That’s why leagues exist. Everyone meets someone’s looks threshold that’s the easy part. Figuring out what the pool of is and accepting it and being happy with it and dating within is what some men seem to struggle with but that has absolutely zero to do …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 12:08 PM
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No they aren’t saying they’re attractive there insinuating that unattractive men still have access to beautiful wife’s. But according to y’all it’s women not media that gave that impression…. That would be a fun one to marinate in. So this ad campaign for lizzo… did it work? I’ll answer: no But men seem to state they grew up believing looks don’t matter and unattractive men had access to beautiful wives. Do you see where I’m going with this? One worked the other didn’t which one was more pervers…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 12:04 PM
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I feel like all I’m doing is repeating myself. Attraction and sexuality in todays world is dependent on free will. If that means 99% of men have to masterbate so be it. We both know that’s not the case but if by some miracle it was well so be it. You keep painting this as something women should be so concerned about. Why? Do men want women to be with them against their freewill? Because if a woman is only attracted to 1% of people but is still expected to be with a man because something somethin…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 11:59 AM
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You said nothing about understanding. I don’t want to date unattractive men. I’ll do you one better their dating lives are of no concern to me. Your response of ‘understanding’ shows it’s not about truth but rather opening a conversation. Like deep down our libidos really are virtuous and the only thing stopping us from being sacrificial with our vaginas is understanding how these men feel. I’m not saying it’s impossible it’s just very unlikely to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 11:50 AM
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Right so it only affects me. If I’m negatively affected that’s my cross to bear and I can choose to change or remain single. Individual’s autonomy isn’t community property. We are talking about sex and relationships not human rights here. There’s nothing wrong with looking out for one’s own best interest, including ridiculous standards because at the end of the day that’s how attraction works, attraction isn’t charity. It’s not participation trophy territory, it’s a cut throat free for all.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 05:23 AM
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I’m being serious. Comedy drama whatever is this not media? Are you claiming media doesn’t influence? Cause I thought you just said it did, via ad campaigns set to manipulate young men into finding people attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 04:49 AM
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You presented a problem that if anything one should be over the moon happy it was solved. Apologies if it came off like I was dictating you. I was more attempting to understand the points I found illogical. If I’m a young girl and I see jocks dating hot cheerleaders, you can tell me all day long looks don’t matter, I’m gonna put two and two together that attractive people aren’t typically with unattractive people who are kind and like Santa the bubbles gonna burst pretty quick. It’s actually kin…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 04:47 AM
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Then go do that. No need to even focus on being mad you didn’t know. You know now that’s what matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 04:33 AM
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But you know the truth now, you see the light, so why be mad? Wouldn’t it be better to just date with your eyes wide open?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 04:29 AM
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I agree it’s sad that instead of fixing this world of extreme starvation and sacrifice to be attractive its become not just young women but now young men too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 04:28 AM
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Why? Genuine question, why does my attraction need to operate in a way that benefits others?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 04:14 AM
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Do you really think that would help? Does it need to be said? I have no problem saying it but does it actually fix anything? If yeah let me know I’ll say it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 04:13 AM
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I love how you try to explain this nearly demonic conspiracy to ‘get men to be attracted to fat women’ while completely ignoring the subversive way media pushes the frumpy man beautiful wife trope. It’s almost as if both sexes do it and surprise surprise it doesn’t work! You’re denigrating fat women so clearly the ‘brainwashing’ didn’t work so why be concerned? Genuine question. Is it cause you want a similar campaigns for undesirable men? Why? You know it doesn’t actually work.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 04:08 AM
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What about sitcoms? How often was a frumpy man with a beautiful wife? King of queens, the Simpsons, family guy, modern family, 3rd rock from the sun, the Big Bang theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 04:04 AM
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Are they actually trying though or are they deathly afraid so they consume manosphere content that tells them they’re right and there’s no point in trying anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 03:55 AM
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So judging women physically good judging men bad. I think you’re confirming the OP to be fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 03:53 AM
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You can feel that way but with tinder being for casual sex the goal is to be pumped and dumped so there’s that. On other sites, don’t y’all say 40% of relationships start online? Kinda hard to believe that many relationships start if most women are getting pump and dumped. It doesn’t make logical sense
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 10:04 PM
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A hell of a lot of women do too. But a hell of a lot of men and women choose wrong. It happens. Men aren’t flawless in this arena MGTHOW is filled with bitter angry men who are bitter because they chose wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 09:56 PM
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You’re still describing desirable women. It varies with men too it just tends to be two fold, his looks will get him to the door his ability to make himself attractive with how he carries himself, confidence charisma humor, can he escalate, gets him past that threshold. Then there’s this guy
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 01:17 PM
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That… was my point…a woman’s league isn’t who’s willing to fuck her but who’s willing to commit to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 01:11 PM
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Causal sex standards are mainly visual. If a dudes able to pull because he’s unattractive but charismatic as fuck, doesn’t change my stance. If you’re trying to claim men and women have the same sex drives and imperatives I’m just gonna let you have that one cause it seems depending on the day and convenience of the argument this changes and I’m just not in the mood to keep arguing the differences between men and women. We’re not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 01:04 PM
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Yes we get it you make this comparison nearly every post. But just because that’s how you’re viewing the way things should be doesn’t make it so. The ‘bookish girl with thunder thighs’ is still a niche, curvy women are desirable. Now talk about the refrigerator shaped women who’s hair is severely thinning due to PCOS, with bad skin and crooked teeth. Being attracted to would be the anomaly. Being attracted to a woman with desirable curves isn’t the flex you’re thinking it is, essentially what I’…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 12:54 PM
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That doesn’t change the fact that your league is who you can attract. I can say my leagues above average jocks all day if none of them are giving me the time of the day it’s safe to say that ain’t my league.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 12:50 PM
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Touché
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 12:47 PM
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No men date socially incompetent women because for some they view it as a benefit. After all men are competing with each other, a naive socially incompetent woman is seen as pure and for some a positive because she’s unwanted, for some she’s seen as easily manipulated. Come in you don’t wanna go down this rabbit hole. Male and female attraction works differently. Only focusing on is she thin and hot isn’t exactly the works of Ghandi.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 12:46 PM
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I don’t know if you’re being sarcastic or not. I’m surprised you’re surprised by this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 12:41 PM
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It’s not through, it makes perfect sense. You’re arguing women should ignore attraction and go for the ‘safe bet’. But if it were that easy men would do it and they don’t either because that’s not how attraction works. At the beginning it’s just two men, one attractive and capable of approaching/escalating the other who is not. An equivalent would be a hot sexy outgoing boisterous woman who’s all over a guy and a quiet mousy chubby woman. Who’s the guy going to go for. I’m a woman let me tell ya…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 12:39 PM
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I’m well aware men want the same from women. But we aren’t men with tits, we don’t operate in that way. So people have every right to have the desire but there’s no point in getting angry and accusatory about it since it would be an illogical reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 12:29 PM
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Under normal circumstances we would be debating but this was a rebuttal to someone who said “we just want women to be honest” you jumped into the convo which is fine but the statement was: Let me be less selective then what do you want me to be honest about? I’m an open book what do you want to know? If the request is for honesty there is no debate it’s simply getting a requested truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 12:25 PM
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I’m all for breaking gender norm, wanna paint your nails? Paint them! But honestly I feel like my partner would be weirded out if I started talking like a baby and wearing animal ears. I’m not saying there isn’t a niche there is they’re the same dudes who search barely legal in pornhub and click on the video of the hairless 18 year old in pig tails. Pretty sure digging into these preferences is gonna open an unsavory banable convo so probably best to leave that one alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 06:06 AM
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So off the bat I disagree with everything you stated but that’s not the point and also why I’m not responding. This wasn’t a debate. You asked a question wanting an honest answer and you got one, you then turned it into an argument but if dudes simply wants the truth as they say there should be no arguing. It’s coming off like the ‘ truth ‘ they want women to speak is just code word for “agree with me about how awful I think you are, apologize and change”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 05:57 AM
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You just answered your own question and made your comment make perfect sense. The attraction threshold for ‘will fuck’ is very low for some men. That doesn’t mean they’ll date her.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 04:55 AM
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Because many men will take any opportunity to have sex… Some men are willing to go quite a few steps down in physical attraction just to engage in sexual intercourse. It’s an absolute rarity for that to happen with women .
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 04:53 AM
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And yet they’re angry at the idea of women acting the same “Hey cut that out! I’m supposed to be shallow! Attraction matters to me, it’s not supposed to matter to you!”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 04:45 AM
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It’s almost as if sex is much easier for women attractive, unattractive big or small its easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 04:42 AM
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Starvation was never a risk. My sexuality is never so strong that I’ll take anything. It’s a very weak hunger and if I don’t see what I want I’m capable of going without. Also Between lobster and steak and soggy cereal there’s a pepperoni pizza! And sure lobster and steak are amazing and soggy cereal is not at all desirable I can happily enjoy pepperoni pizza. Pepperoni pizza is used here to describe average men. I don’t consider a man who is locked out of dating until he has money as average. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 12:56 AM
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Why would I consider issues that require me to act sexually in a way that’s beneficial to someone else. My sexuality isn’t here for the benefit of society. If I wanna fuck hot dudes and then settle down with a not hot dude that’s my right. The not hot dude has the right to say no, the not hot dude has the right to go over seas, the not hot dude has the right to leave society and live in the Forrest. These are all choices we as people make. You’re trying to argue a woman’s pussy must be used mora…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 12:49 AM
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To believe that you’d have to believe only the worst men have girlfriends, wives, etc. Plenty of good attractive people date plenty of charismatic people date, plenty of assholes date, plenty of bitches date. You’re placing a moral compass on sexuality as a way to feel superior but it’s just insulting to people and doesn’t help as it just further digs into a victimized mindset. If being an asshole was all it took to get a happy and healthy relationship, every man would do it. You don’t go up to …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 12:32 PM
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If men are that gullible and mobile in their beliefs and attractions good for feminists. The reverse isn’t gonna work. Amazed it works given the shit said about fat people here but apparently feminists changed attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 12:24 PM
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Doesn’t matter if it works or not don’t shoot the messenger. Women clearly have an aversion to these men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 12:19 PM
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For avoiding unattractive guys without just saying it’s because they’re unattractive 🤷🏾‍♂️ I don’t need a scape goat, you could have asked I would have straight up told you, I don’t want to be sexually approached by unattractive men. People here want me to feel ashamed or embarrassed of that and to lie so then I can be harassed for lying so I’m being honest no scapegoat required. The reason was expressed in response to the original post but I don’t need it to state I don’t want to be sexually ap…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 03:22 AM
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Scapegoat for what? There’s no need for justification. I can want to avoid a man sexually because my butt itches.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 03:05 AM
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Scapegoat for what? Does there need to be a justification to a woman’s desire or lack thereof to have sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 03:04 AM
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So you don't think it's wrong to judge people as dangerous simply because they're awkward? Did I say that or did I say the aversion exists due to the subconscious desire to avoid sexually desperate men? You know what let me go back to lying Again, I'm not expecting you to lie. It's good to be honest. But it's one thing to be honest about your behavior. It's another thing to justify it. You can be honest without justifying the behavior. “Be honest but make sure you feel bad about it.” Now I see w…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 03:00 AM
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I don’t intend to but I appreciate the concern.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 02:39 AM
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It would be one thing to say like "this is the subconscious feeling that comes up. I know it's wrong and it makes no sense, etc." as opposed to saying like "awkwardness is OFFPUTTING." Why would I say that if it’s not how I feel? That would just be more lying. Again, I don’t get it the original post stated women lie because of privilege and abundance and not fear and I countered that with no “it’s a subconscious aversion. It exists you’re not imagining it, but here’s a possible reason“ would it …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 02:21 AM
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I googled it and nothing about it being attached to the 7 emotions I even googled “ attraction emotional system” Saw nothing about happy sad angry attraction. Why didn’t you link it?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 01:12 AM
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Why do you guys keep taking these statements personal and expecting me to answer for how its taken. Either y’all want us to be honest about our “cut throat sexuality” and attraction or you want us to keep sugar coating and lying. It’s not personal at all it’s a subcontiius reaction to awkwardness as the title of the CMV brought up. If you didn’t want to read arguments like this why would you click the thread? I feel like it’s obvious what the rebuttals would be.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 01:10 AM
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Ah yes the 7 basic emotions happiness, fear, anger, sadness, attraction….
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 01:04 AM
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This was some years ago. All I can say is that was my experience and how I interpreted it. FWIW these were college aged guys
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 01:01 AM
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Again attraction vs anger are two different entities and the fact that you’re viewing them as one in the same is curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 12:40 AM
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I don’t require concern or pity. The dismissiveness leads to these posts, had they recognized the gravity they’d understand the rejection more and maybe get over themselves and stop taking rejection of the sexuality as a crime but rather a logical consequence. Hope that cleared it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 12:38 AM
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“ I can want” Does not mean “ I can’t desire average” Because I’m a human being who can be attracted to above average men doesn’t mean I’m incapable of being attracted to average men within my dating league. It’s not a loss to me. The scenario you’re describing wouldn’t happen as dating leagues indeed exist, but yeah if I was presented with two equal men but one was better looking than the other I’m choosing the better looking one. So I repeat you guys are projecting and believing I’m fully inca…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 12:11 AM
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Feminists trying to change attraction is idiotic and doesn’t work. Fat awareness isn’t to push sexual attraction but rather acceptance but let’s say for feminists it’s about pushing attraction. Does it work? According to this sub absolutely fucking not. Some men here want women to operate in ways that benefit them and act offended when they refuse, no different than those feminists
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 11:55 PM
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Yes we will keep the lid on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 11:51 PM
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I know what you’re referencing but that’s a different comment thread I didn’t say I’d rather have anything I said sure if I could date a hottie hot hot I would, but that’s not my dating pool. Even if a hottie hot hot came to me today promising commitment that doesn’t erase the love I have for my current partner so it would be a non starter but if we broke up? All bets are off! 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 11:45 PM
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Where did I say people can’t control their anger? You’re the second person to see attraction and jump to violence. We should really explore that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 11:40 PM
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Never said it was anyone’s problem. It was just further expressing the aversion to that behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 11:39 PM
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I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 11:36 PM
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Eagerly trying to touch me masked as dancing. I think most women can attest to knowing when a touch starved man who can’t hide it tries/succeeds in touching her.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 11:31 PM
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100% agree with you. Pretty privilege is real and people who are seen as flawed have very little wiggle room. It’s not fair, it just is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 11:07 PM
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They still eat pussy
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 11:05 PM
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You’re speaking on to different stages. The violent man didn’t introduce himself by punching the woman in the face. The sexually desperate man didn’t get his foot in the door to be one way or the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 11:05 PM
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Amen brother! But unfortunately there are people out here not sucking dick and not eating pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 11:02 PM
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I see what you’re saying and agree. My point is there’s no motivation to handle men coming at me with kid gloves. If one can dish it they can take it. The packaging of the truth doesn’t change what’s being asked for is being delivered. Men here straight up say we need women to just admit they hate [insert whatever]. And I’m like damn straight I hate [insert whatever] fuck them. And immediately you get pearl clutching. So again it’s not about honesty. Like I said before its like when someone gets…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 11:00 PM
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Let me be less selective then what do you want me to be honest about? I’m an open book what do you want to know?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 10:52 PM
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And thus my response
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 10:50 PM
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Then why are so many men complaining of a lack of support? Can you DM bottle and bring him in?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 10:49 PM
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Women or men? I just wanna clarify what type of monster I’m being painted as today.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 10:49 PM
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I’m not saying it’s ok or appropriate. I’m stating it simply is. The men here state men are attracted to youth. That could be considered harmful. We can’t stop aging. Men don’t like masculinity, aggressive or bitchy behavior. I was just saying the other day simply because I was born female and black I have to work harder to be seen as feminine, and kind because it’s not my baseline. How did I miss your point? I continuously say sexual attraction is NOT fair. Now the next point you’re comparing a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 10:45 PM
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I’m speaking in terms set out via this conversation not my actual life. I don’t get with men for money or resources or status, the things women are accused of only being focused on. That was literally my point. Y’all accuse us of it and then the second you even think I’m confirming it ya harp on it. Truly let’s sit with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 10:25 PM
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He gets called a soy boy and a sissy for being a big progressive hetero in touch with his feelings type of man who paints his nails because he enjoys it. I’m not about to sit here and play this men don’t perpetuate toxic manhood tropes of suck it up and swallow your feelings like a real man. Our society as a whole does it, conservatives being the biggest proponents, I’m not being political just pointing out the blatant irony given the pipeline the manosphere gives them. It’s almost like they don…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 10:21 PM
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I was specifically responding to his conclusion that these men had to be club bros.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 10:07 PM
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Support for men exists from therapy to group outings and hobbies to Reddit subs to just making friends. They don’t often have the draw of toxic spaces though. My male friends do all kinds of crazy shit together, they support one another, they lean on one another. I understand this is a different world from socially isolated/ disabled / abused men but that doesn’t mean socially supported men don’t exist, our society is just having a hard time appealing to these specific men who fell through the c…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 10:05 PM
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I am trying to follow the logic here and I can't. I’ll try to help. Why are many women attracted to criminals jerks and bad boys? Confidence. I already stated that portraying characteristics that make one viewed as not a sexual risk is beneficial. These men display risk that some women find exciting and sexy but that risk isn’t their own r*pe. They aren’t the target of that sexual risk, where subconsciously they feel they are with desperate men. Why do they return to domestic abusers? Two differ…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 09:42 PM
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No women aren’t hive mind but women openly date men. So for it to be a conspiracy we’d need to date these unattractive men, while truly only being attracted to chads, which I know know af/bb but for that to be a secret that requires confession we’d have to not openly “ride the cock carousel” in our youth. So we’re hiding in plain sight? Following the af/bb narrative it is counterproductive for a woman to give away her mating strategy, you’d essentially be asking women to go against their own bes…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 09:29 PM
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Yeah. I’m being honest. Look what’s happening to me. Why do you think that is?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 08:38 PM
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So I can only respond to: “I’m tired of women lying about their cock carousel riding hypergamy” With “ I’m sorry I’m doing these awful terrible things. I should be ashamed and change.” Not even gonna lie it tracks with this sub. Again it was never about the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 08:37 PM
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Nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 08:35 PM
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And that’s their right. Genuine question did you forget the title of your CMV?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 08:34 PM
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You responded to someone stating we can’t all be ceos but there’s apparently a large population of them here.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 08:33 PM
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Look up, sexual attraction is racist af
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 08:32 PM
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Not once did I say these men were guilty of anything reread what I wrote I said it’s subconscious feeling of a desperate man being less in control of his sexuality. I have no one to blame, there is no blame. Sexual attraction entered the room and told everyone fuck your feelings. It’s funny you bring in race given I’m a black woman and have to face to ends of the spectrum, sexual aversion due to the assumption I’m masculine or sexual desire due to the assumption I’m sexually deviant and slutty a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 08:32 PM
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I just finished saying attraction isn’t moral. It says nothing about me morally. It’s a subconscious thing. You yourself stated you don’t want to date a single mom, or a woman with a lot of experience there are conscious but also subconscious reasons for that, and as long as you aren’t an asshole about it, it is what it is. Women try to not be assholes about these feelings and we get attacked, women are honest and we’re still attacked it’s almost like the anger is with themselves and not the tru…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 08:24 PM
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So you’re saying men only help each other if it’s in toxic ways that bring them profit? There’s support, it’s just not as appealing as redpill who give men a scapegoat as well as a promise of what their hearts desire, coochie. And before you even say I’m not like that. Yea I know I’m aware you are the core audience of redpill young horny youth are and they’re eating it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 07:57 PM
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The empathy gap absolutely exists. It’s an absolute double edged sword in online spaces due to toxic people being the loudest, the issues risen tend to be “ I want a girlfriend” how does one emphasize with that while simultaneously being told you’re a hypergamous selfish bitch incapable of love who rides the cock carousel and become useless at 30. In real life I try to be empathetic to the men around me being aware of the effects of toxic masculinity. I’ve been there emotionally for male friends…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 07:52 PM
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Aren’t there several millionaires on this sub? Either it’s super easy or someone’s lying!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 07:34 PM
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Nah don’t put me in that category. Fuck people you’re attracted to. Neither party is helping themselves trying to push morality into sexual attraction. You’re well aware how fucking dumb it is to do to men, it’s equally as dumb to do to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 07:26 PM
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I’ve often said here I feel like I argue in favor of redpill more than the men here lol. But no I don’t consider myself redpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 07:08 PM
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I guess for me it’s an unspoken thing, I should have clarified since I’m aware there are women who marry for assets and resources. I have a degree a well paying career and own a home, at best I’d need a man for status, an unattractive man wouldn’t give me that. Im saying that to say I have zero need to be with someone I’m not attracted to. I didn’t click on your data if you posted it but I have a feeling there’s stipulations to these conclusions. I said I can want a hottie hot hot that doesn’t m…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 06:58 PM
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This was years ago. But also clubs look pretty packed when I pass them by. I always wonder who still uses tinder but alas people do what they’re gonna do. They were desperate and groppy like they never got close to a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 06:32 PM
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Again it’s subconscious. Desperate = Sexually dangerous. Even if that’s not statistically true a man who’s viewed as sexually frustrated and unable to release that sexual frustration is not appealing due to that subconscious threat. Come on you guys can’t just keep ranting “women are picky hypergamous bitches” without at least trying to look into what the logical drive is. I have been biologically tasked since puberty with gatekeeping my sexuality. Redpill all day right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 06:26 PM
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I find that hard to believe. I’ve been hella honest all today and I’ve gotten quite a few insults lobbed at me, just got called sexist! It seems like an excuse. If I admit I’m cheating to my spouse it doesn’t take away the pain and hurt. I don’t wanna fuck ugly men. Full stop. Don’t wanna do it. Do you really think that’s going to make anyone feel better?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 06:24 PM
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You guys! I am being fully blunt right now I’m not victimizing I’m not placing any morality to this I’m just stating this is what’s happening. as if women are just poor innocent victims lacking any agency in the matter. Women have agency over their sexuality that’s why they’re choosing who they do and don’t have sex with. Zero victimhood here. Women don’t need to constantly stigmatize men as creeps, profile them as threats, and pathologize their sexual interest because of the existence of a few …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 06:18 PM
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I don’t get your response. I’m full mask off stating this and your like “ahhh you’re prejudiced!!” Do y’all want the truth or not?! Cause this is coming off as a rant rather than a CMV if you’re angry at the implications of your belief being confirmed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 06:03 PM
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There’s want and there’s reality. I can want a super hot hottie but I’m not delusional, I know a super hot hottie is going to want to commit to another super hot hottie, he may fuck me but he’s not gonna commit to me. Now being a realistic woman who only operates in committed relationships it benefits me to know what my league is and to pick the best of the bunch from that league. So your data doesn’t translate into real world non casual sex interactions. Men are the gatekeepers of commitment. W…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 06:01 PM
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How am I wronging them. Let’s say the quiet part loud then it’s a perfect circle back to my original point about sexually desperate men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 05:57 PM
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These men were absolutely awkward desperate dudes who were in the club. You think the only men in clubs are sexually successful club bros?!?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 05:56 PM
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Sleeping with someone I’m not sexually attracted to sounds like absolute torture. I’m aware there are plenty of women who are capable of focusing on a man’s assets but we aren’t all capable of doing that, not to mention I tend to make more than the men I date. So I’m not getting any assets and I’ve already gotten his commitment. Yet I still thoroughly enjoy fucking him. I’m not saying there aren’t women out there pity fucking their partners. I’m saying I’m not one of them and I’m far from an ano…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 05:55 PM
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It’s subconscious. Desperate = dangerous So it’s offputting. Men who have nowhere to release their load are viewed as a threat, it makes perfect sense than men who do not give that impression are more appealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 05:48 PM
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I have said dozens of times I’d rather sew my vagina shut than fuck an ugly man. Never was appreciated. Seems to be a disconnect. Pretty sure because it’s not about ‘admitting’ it’s about having the ability to shame and maybe change her mind. It’s like people who get dumped and say they need closure, it’s not about the closure.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 05:46 PM
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If we wear our pickiness in our choices why do men need to hear it?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 05:44 PM
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Why do these men need to hear women say something they’re apparently clearly witnessing. Don’t y’all say don’t listen to what she says watch what she does, we’ll if she’s dodging awkward men the writings on the wall. Why be mad?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 05:20 PM
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Doesn’t matter. It’s subconscious. Desperate awkward men are seen as a sexual threat. Sexual desperation in men is subconsciously viewed as dangerous, other men state this constantly. “If things don’t change in the dating world there will be consequences these men will become dangerous, they need release.” That’s y’all’s words, so y’all sit here acknowledge women should be weary of desperate men then complain about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 05:18 PM
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It’s even here what are you talking about?!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 05:15 PM
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When are we not? Wouldn’t the complaints from men being locked out of dating be false if we hid our preference for attractive high value partners? We wear our pickiness in our choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 05:14 PM
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Yeah I said in another comment my partner was my height and the guy responded “ so if you were hotter you’d have a tall partner” they truly feel were incapable of being attracted to regular ass men. Instead of maybe just maybe looking within…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 05:09 PM
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How can I put this… I can be fucking Tom Hardy, I’m not cumming from penetration, that’s not how my body works. Most women aren’t blessed with that ability and those who do tend to have more satisfying sex lives. The reason lesbians have a smaller orgasm gap is because THEY EAT PUSSY!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 05:03 PM
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I agree. My question is why are you? I didn’t bring up arrest stats you did I didn’t bring up divorce stats you did, I didn’t bring up romance stats you did, if not to paint men as superior what was the point?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 04:57 PM
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It really drives me crazy how dismissive men here seem to be about the fact that men by and large want to enter our bodies and we’re tasked with gatekeeping our hearts and bodies, and evolutionarily speaking, our pussy isn’t a charity bank! It’s not privilege that I have a visceral reaction to the sexuality of an unattractive awkward man, it’s logic. Y’all constantly warn of the danger of desperate men. The reason confidence and the ability to not act sexually desperate is appealing because it r…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 04:55 PM
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Where did I do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 04:21 PM
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So… you’re confirming the belief that men love more. How is such a sweeping statement not “men are wonderful” Are you confirming the victimization of men by stating women file for 98.9% of divorces, is that not insinuating women are victimizing poor men? I don’t know what other conclusion I’m supposed to come to.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 03:41 PM
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Those poor criminals! /s Dude stop you’re literally pushing male criminals as victims. It’s getting worse!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 03:18 PM
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Why would a woman need to rationalize a choice someone else feels is wrong. I highly doubt people complete 10 years of school on a whim. And then what’s with this idea that every woman who has a PHD is forgoing a family to do so? One of my high school peers got married and had a kid while pursuing her doctorate. I got my degree while married. Others went back to school to get theirs after being married and having a family. Women building a successful life and pursuing higher education for themse…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 03:13 PM
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I’m surprised you haven’t heard it, it’s a pretty common trope here. The rest you essentially proved my point. The belief that men are wonderful that they can do no wrong and that they’re victims of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 03:09 PM
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Don’t men here claim men are the only ones capable of love? That they’re needed for society to run? That women’s standards are too high since most men are average and even above and it’s women who are the problem? Sounds like men are wonderful to me
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 02:13 PM
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I mean yeah, maybe not taller, but if my league were different so would the men be who were in it and I’d choose a partner in that pool. I’m not insecure about my looks, I’m average as fuck, I don’t have any issue dating and being attracted to the men within my league.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 02:06 PM
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You don’t speak for the men in her dating circle though, unless you have your PHD which apologies, I wouldn’t want to date a man with that much education myself, but I also don’t want to date a high school drop out cause he’s nice. People tend to marry within the same caste, looks, socially, education, financially. The narrative pushed by these podcasters are by a bunch of anti education men who barely graduated high school, they don’t represent the men in that woman’s dating pool. 9 times out o…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 01:09 PM
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Does she want a family? Catching some pussy may be why some men achieve things why assume women ha d the same motivations. I can’t imagine spending 10 more years in school because “I’m gonna catch me a husband.” Like it’s easier to but a damn push-up bra.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 12:56 PM
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That’s the same for a man! That’s just logic dude. Do I want an asshole or a good person? The good person duh. Now with highly educated men it’s do I want a wife I can’t relate to and have deep intelligent conversations or a dunce with big tits. Again dead giveaway the differences in mindsets.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 12:50 PM
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Character doesn’t matter didn’t you read the original post?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 12:47 PM
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skinny women are still considered the ideal by a the mainstream, slim men are generally seen as scrawny and weak and advised to hit the gym Everything seems to be steered toward tall, fit or muscly without anything in between at all. The OPer started the extremes. I’m just following the narrative you can’t not have everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 07:47 AM
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He said if not me. Leagues exist. We can’t all have tall handsomes. My guys my height handsome with a great personality, I’m kidding he has a big dick. /s No but seriously there’s leagues there’s compromise attraction doesn’t work like a math problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 07:41 AM
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It’s these rabbit holes. They tell men all their problems lie in their lack of pussy. I wish my vagina was as powerful as dudes here make it out to be I’d be fucking set for life. Also for a group of men who hate beta bux they sure do advocate for that life. Like sorry if I’m forced to be with a dude nobodies having a good time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 03:23 AM
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What factors? Women having rights?!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 03:19 AM
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Dude went full mask off 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 03:18 AM
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Pretty much I just got this gem Secondly, I’m not arguing women should fuck incels. Haven’t said that at all. And before I go on a reject the fact that a meth’d-out 600lb woman is the same as the average guy today that women don’t want because he isn’t Cristiano Renaldo. I also haven’t said that incels’ problem is loneliness. Incels are symptoms of a gynocentric society, which is why they’re growing in number. I will never give remedies for symptoms, but I will remedy the problem CAUSING the sym…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 03:12 AM
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For the love of god pick a lane is it only height or is it height and ridiculous body standards, the original post said body standards, John had a regular body so the OPers argument on lookism fails. It does anyway, pick and choosing yeah but but but does not thing either women have extreme standards or we don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 02:11 AM
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Im explaining unwanted male exhale attention to a woman is equivalent to unwanted male sexual attention to a straight man. It’s not just “oh sexual attention is the same I don’t mind a firing squad of pussy!” Of course not because there is no inherent threat to female sexuality like there is with male sexuality. That’s why I’m saying the comparison makes sense that visceral response due to a complete and utter lack of attraction is the same. There is absolutely zero appealing to me about a man I…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 01:07 AM
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Which one?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 12:13 AM
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Why isn’t it? We all make our own choices. Men who refuse to grow up have been around forever. If men decide they don’t want to participate in society because they feel exploited it’s not womankind’s job to fix it for them, they need therapy and social support, hell plenty of women feel disenchanted by society again end stage capitalism. Vagina isn’t going to fix it. These men have serious shit to work through and grifters put a convenient immovable object in front of their ‘happiness’ so they c…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 11:53 PM
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Are men disabled?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 11:47 PM
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What do you mean it’s not? That’s literally what I was responding to! Women generally favor shame against men to control them. That’s what I’m referencing from another poster. I don’t know half of what you’re talking about. At this point it’s probably best we just allow the poster who stated it to answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:51 PM
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Ooof bad example lol. But I will say Bill Clinton is an example of powerful elite men marrying powerful elite women. Obama is another, hell all those rich elite people like in a different plane than us. Most aren’t plucking the hottest chick from the trailer park. I’m not saying it doesn’t exist, I can think of a couple of celebs off the top of my head but for the most part people tend to date within their own looks pool, social pool, financial pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:45 PM
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I mean you have every right to your opinion. I stated mine my belief of the mindset of men who have these beliefs it’s not a negative it’s neither here nor there. Plenty of high value men care a whole hell of a lot about what women bring to the table beyond their looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:40 PM
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Base male sexuality is seen as a threat by society. I’m sorry it’s a completely different animal than female sexuality. Homophobia includes many aspects of to put it bluntly disdain over male sexuality. Look at slut shaming and promiscuity a woman is seen as dirty if she’s slept with many men. Female sexuality isn’t typically viewed that way. Unwanted male sexuality is viewed very negatively by society. If not wanting sexual attention from someone unattractive makes me spoiled I will take that l…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:38 PM
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chefs kiss I love commentary from the “men need compassion as we denigrate women for daring to age” crowd.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:32 PM
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Genuinely I think you think I’m someone else and you meant to respond to them.I have no idea what points you’re bringing up, again this has nothing to do with women controlling short men which is what I was responding to.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:31 PM
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You aren’t being clear at all at one point you’re expressing it’s not the preference but using a preference to shame which I agree, but then you go on a completely different point about trans people it seems. And none of that has anything to do with what was being said about women controlling short men, so I don’t see how you don’t see how I’m confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 09:09 PM
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So people shouldn’t make other people feel bad about their preferences? So how does that equate to women manipulating short men? Are women forcing short men to date women they aren’t attracted to? I’m confused genuinely.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 08:49 PM
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Didn’t we just go over this? Just because you believe this is what’s going on in the world doesn’t make it so. Plenty of average people are dating one another that’s the natural order of things people date their equals. Attraction and desirability have a lot that goes into it looks, personality, being neurotypical and able bodied, career, hobbies. Society isn’t this black pill desolate landscape you’re describing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 08:47 PM
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Expand please.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 08:43 PM
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Barely clearing? Huh? Dude its Hollywood, John is an incredibly attractive man. The point is he is not what men view as what’s sexually appealing to women, that’s literally the point she made. The OPer described a scenario where women only find Vin Diesel attractive. It’s placing the male idea of attraction and what men find appealing in other men as the female Standard. It’s off that’s the point. Acting like saying attractive men are attractive to women is a revelation, it’s not. Men have lower…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 08:42 PM
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But the market for it is not the same that’s the point, the pornography market would be equal if we were as visually driven as men. Of course women are visual, if we weren’t the world would be drastically different, we’re visual it just greatly differs from the way male attraction and sexuality works.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 08:39 PM
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No what’s cringe is believing this is a fact. Average people pair up every day. I wish I lived in a world where my average ass had a dating pool of hottie hot hits. I can fuck hottie hot hits but since I like many want meaningful relationships my pool consists of my equals.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 08:37 PM
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The way he described? Disagree. In fact I remember him having a very regular body, he worked out and for in shape for his movie role.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 08:23 PM
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That’s… that’s not how it goes… I don’t know how else to reply to your impression of a caricature of being an average woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 08:13 PM
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So are simps good or bad? It seems he narrative is that desperate men are pathetic and bad for other men but then it’s also the narrative that all men are desperate…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 08:07 PM
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It’s not about attention it’s about our visual cues. If women were as visual as men there would be a market for it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 08:02 PM
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If someone’s not getting results their standards are too high that’s the logical conclusion. FWIW this poster has described himself drastically differently in the past so take his description with a grain of salt.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 07:59 PM
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Women like attractive men of different types. This is bad why? Y’all LOVE to act like women are monsters for being attracted to attractive men. Like come on!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 07:56 PM
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But not the one type of attractive the OPer described so his point is null.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 07:55 PM
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Good looking and tall but not the body type you described, if anything he’s the thin you stated women just do not go for. You created extremes when you really meant. Women like attractive men. Which… duh…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 07:54 PM
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And he’s not buff doesn’t that prove her point?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 07:53 PM
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I’ll never forget a post from r/dating from a man in the engineering field. He lamented it being a sausage fest and he commented on how truly valuable female engineers were because these women could communicate better with their spouses, had similar income and were just in general the best option for a spouse. He was not ok with the idea of marrying someone beneath him in education and income. My point of that side story was to say, there’s different types of men, the high power men who utilize …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 07:47 PM
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And this was never argued. I am only discussing how women perceive themselves once they attain education. So you’re argument is educated women need to get over themselves? It just comes off as trying to knock down accomplished women a few pegs. I feel like some men ( not you just in general) feel their earning power and education and career is what they use to catch a woman so if the woman has all those things they have to have more so they want to push the narrative that highly educated women a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 07:41 PM
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So men and women value different things in partners… Is this supposed to be a huge revelation? I’m genuinely asking. That’s like me saying it’s not fair that some men ‘trade up’ once they’re successful and get younger wives because ‘women don’t do that’ well no shit we don’t we have different imperatives we’re two different sexes. I don’t think I’ve ever understood why the narrative is to paint male and female mating strategy differences as victimization.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 07:37 PM
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Remember in the 90’s when that one man murdered that other man for telling him he had a crush on him on national television?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 07:29 PM
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The irony is how often MRA’s are compared to the all lives matter crowd. You’re comparing apples to oranges and demanding people who don’t experience the issues ignore their own issues and view the issues of the sex attached to their their issues as worse, it’s a tall order, it’s ridiculous to even think about “ well yeah you were groped by a stranger but you’re not lonely so I have it worse!!” Pretty insufferable argument. Much more logical to accept both issues are bad and can be discussed.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 07:27 PM
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Yeah there’s no point in playing oppression Olympics. We’re all first world here we aren’t the ones to be playing who has it worse. They’re both bad just in different ways. Our lived experiences are different
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 07:14 PM
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How so? This post is pushing the narrative that the most important thing in a partner is looks and the rest is irrelevant. Again that may be the case for young folks but it starts to matter once you try to build a life with someone
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 07:12 PM
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So my dating pool is the top 10% of men and I’m getting commitment… Are you saying I’m a Stacy? If so… thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 07:08 PM
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That’s not the point I was making. I’m sure male invisibility and loneliness is painful I don’t doubt that. What I’m saying is it doesn’t magically make unwanted sexual attention the bees knees for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 07:06 PM
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It absolutely is comparable. Women aren’t chadsexual but we absolutely are adverse sometimes viscerally to sexual attention from men we are not interested in, you can thank men sexualizing us from a young age for that, probably some evolution thrown in as well, unwanted male sexuality is INCREDIBLY unappealing to many women, the same way a man would react. We aren’t like men where tits are tits. If I’m not interested in a man his body does nothing for me. Again it’s ignoring the difference in ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 07:04 PM
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Where did I say that? I said that’s not all men or women are looking for past the age of horny and broke youth. In fact many men on MGTOW are upset and miserable because they latched onto the first pretty face they saw and got fucked over. Had they vetted better, what’s being pointed out as such a bad bad thing because all that matters is looks, they may have had better experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 06:58 PM
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Oh my bad I’m sorry. What do you think the reason is for this, I falsely thought you meant this to be womens fault, please explain Look up “Lying Flat” in ref. to Chinese youth, it is economically disastrous to have increasingly large amounts of your population dropping out of society Your social security is vitally dependent on them doing more and more valuable work. It is a Ponzi scheme and removing people from it is highly damaging
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 06:55 PM
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Firing squad of dicks is perfect. Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 06:38 PM
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There’s also social stigma that’s not talked about. I’ve seen women coworkers get accused of being stuck up delusional bitches simply because they were very clear strong and forceful with their rejection of male attention. It makes you much more subtle with your rejecting because you don’t want to be viewed that way. I’d love to dig into topics like this more but unfortunately this space isn’t the place to have these convos.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 06:36 PM
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You’re male. That’s why it’s often pointed out men don’t appreciate attention from gay men. Although many here claim they’d love it, the norm is homophobia and extreme reaction, it’s viewed as a threat. Male sexuality is a unique thing and it’s consistently compared to female sexuality when they’re night and day.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 06:33 PM
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Young men underestimate how important these things are to building a family because they’re mainly focused on looks and fucking at that age. They think the way they think is how they’ll always think. Dating in my 30’s I promise the men solely focused on looks were the ones to be avoided. They were few and far between.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 06:24 PM
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90%?! 90%!!!! As an adult in the dating world I feel like a lot of men did not get that message.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 06:21 PM
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I only described to you what young male syndrome is. It's a known psychological phenomenon and your problems with it shouldn't be taken up with me. Again, not a threat. It's a known psychological phenomenon. If you want to say "everything is fine" then that's what is predicted to happen after. If these men are suffering and choose to remain suffering, how is that womankind’s fault? Like the lack of accountability is astounding. Manhood is competitive has been for all of time and the lower parts …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 06:19 PM
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You just said it’s economically disastrous if losers stay losers. How is that on women to fix? We gotta save losers from themselves? Like mother Theresa?! Scapegoating. Powerful people hiding their hand. Don’t look at us making wages stagnant and enjoying record profits on the backs on middle and lower class it’s that woman’s fault! You know how you fix it? Work this minimum wage job without fighting for better rights or grind like crazy! Yeah neither one of those options benefits the rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 06:00 PM
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Oh I agree. I’m not sure how you got I was saying I’m men vs women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 04:48 PM
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As I said to another poster for the love of god please stop blaming woman kind not wanting to date men they aren’t attracted to for end stage capitalism. If I was a conspiracy theorist I’d say the manosphere is a conservative pipeline created to keep young men angry and ambition less so they keep a lower class working menial jobs but I’m not a conspiracy theorist but if I was!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 04:41 PM
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If that’s your view then it will naturally come out in your life. No point in complaining about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 04:39 PM
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Actually yeah you can have it both ways because unless you're going to be locking people up for thought crime you can only punish people who have already done something wrong. The problem is it's stochastic and you expect more crime, just without knowing precisely who is going to do it. Put it in words. I feel like you won’t because it’s low key hella misandrist to say even though it’s a got to threat. Y’all have GOT to get together and come up with a better one. Why state these men will become …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 04:38 PM
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Stop blaming women choosing not to date losers for end stage capitalism!!! These men are broken, they didn’t magically become broken because women arbitrarily decided they weren’t desirable, or because they fear approaching or don’t even bother trying because they fell down these rabbit holes. It’s like me blaming a job for not hiring me when I didn’t bother applying in the first place because I know I’m not qualified. Like what?!?!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 03:55 PM
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If you search up "young male syndrome" then you'll understand that having no partner and being unemployed drives men to engage in risky or violent behaviour. Accusing people of being violent because they have one of those traits is reprehensible but saying violence, aggression, and risky behaviour will become more common if there are lots of unpartnered young men drifting about is entirely correct. You can’t have it both ways either these men are actually dangerous and should be treated as such …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 02:16 PM
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Insecure = redflag - sound judgement Every man = insecure - girl who are you dating do better!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 01:27 PM
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Control them how? How does a woman control short men by not dating them? I have so many questions
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 01:25 PM
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You’re using the concept of supply and demand incorrectly since pussy isn’t a physical product that is given to the first person that arrives. Pussy is a valuable resource given at the owners choosing so there’s not even guaranteed if chad was removed, that the ‘product’ would still be available. The casual sex market pushes out a lot of men due to its dilution of dick, yea this is true but it also pushes men out because they simply aren’t desirable in that role. If I’m a woman who has casual se…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 01:19 PM
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Why would it not be good? Can you verbalize this? Are you saying incels are dangerous? Or they’ll leave society? I always found the second argument kinda funny. Like are these dudes capable of going off the grid to avoid paying taxes, or are they just going to remain a forever burden on their parents ( a huge privilege I might add) or are they just going to stay working menial jobs no one wants in the first place. ( which mainly fucks over the poor 16 year olds looking for summer jobs) Like I ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 01:07 PM
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How in the world would you think this is some sort of flex? I don’t… that’s why I said that.. It's getting annoying that whenever women ask our honest opinion you all think we are lying when we say it like it is. Would you prefer that we should just lie? Where did I state you were lying? Can you point it out? Tell you that: "yeah! We do care about personality, status, smarts, and your career! Gosh, your salary and diplomas are so very attractive! You go girl!" The men here by and large believe i…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:31 PM
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I don’t follow mine if the shot said here technically is what’s defined as hypergamy which is marrying up socially/financially. Not ohhhh she wants someone tall… hypergamy… Your response also didn’t address anything I wrote.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 05:16 AM
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I’m fully aware men I’m not attracted to are invisible to me. That’s why leagues exist. Most people aren’t 180 eyes wide open to all people that’s including men. It’s an odd expectation to have much less complain about ‘not being aware’. I can’t ‘date up’ just because I want to. I’m sure you’re familiar with pump and dumps right? I can have casual sex well above my league but a man willing to settle down and be in a relationship with me? Totally different ball game. Don’t make having to date wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 05:22 PM
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Are you sure women don’t like it? I mean it’s one thing to say it just as a simple fact, women are attracted to men who they deem better than them. Ok cool. It’s another to use it to denigrate shame and complain Wouldn’t you agree?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 04:46 PM
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Oh yeah, good point, the funny thing is they threaten it all the time. So they threaten hypergamy while simultaneously complaining about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 04:45 PM
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How many of the men saying I only want a woman who is “fit feminine and friendly”, at a net zero socially? Feminine obviously is the female equivalent of masculine my God how many men here claim it’s hypergamy for a woman to want strong masculine man, but they’ll then turn around and say I want a feminine woman. How is that not hypergamy given the same parameters? As if being cute petite lady like ( submissive) perky tits to match the quirky personality, friendly ( cause apparently no women have…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 04:40 PM
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I wish you guys would realize this isn’t a flex. Like it’s actually a huge negative.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 04:29 PM
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Because unlike many men body doesn’t erase face. I value face more than anything. I don’t care if you have 3% body fat if your face isn’t great. Men think women rate the same and we don’t. Give me a chubby guy with a handsome face over an ugly guy with rock hard abs any day. The market decides our value.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 04:27 PM
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I love how you immediately assume I’m a feminist because I’m speaking on accountability. I don’t care about incels grievances. Full stop. I.don’t.care. Their grievances boil down to - I’m lonely and isolated and instead of leaning on other men for support and camaraderie, which would be RIDICULOUSLY easy given the manospheres complete compassion and understanding of these men’s plights but instead of these men leaning on eachother, it’s all about women. Like oh I wouldn’t have trauma be neurodiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 04:21 PM
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Felonies?!? Come on! Stop. Have you heard Eminem lyrics? Pretty fucking violent towards women. Have you heard of Howard Stern? We’re you around for Hillary Clinton’s presidency run? Woo it got wild. Google violence against women on media and instead of arrest photos from all the felonies handed out there’s dozens of scholarly papers on it prevalence. I didn’t see the episode, I don’t know the reference or anything, but if you know about it I highly doubt you saw it as you watched daytime televis…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 01:11 PM
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But I can be corrected though right? It’s more important to correct me than the people saying it. That’s my point! You can’t police incels and it’s not your job you’re correct but magically when it comes to women you find the time, no sir, the conversations not happening while the elephants in the room suffocating everyone and y’all are pretending it’s not happening because as long as someone’s denigrating women it’s all good. Or I have an even better solution. Let the fire burn, not my job righ…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 06:52 AM
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I like to orgasm? I don’t have casual sex though so maybe this isn’t directed towards me. If I were to sleep with a man as a ONS considering I’d likely know nothing about him I’d have to perceive him as extremely good looking and high value. Otherwise I don’t see the point but this is coming from a woman who is not motivated by sleeping with people casually so my motivation would differ from said woman same as men, there are plenty of men who don’t want to have casual sex, their sexual motivatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 06:03 PM
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Like I said, it's your problem how you view this. I agree! I choose to view men who I’m told are going to be violent if they don’t get sex are violent. Me neither but I don't know what other people go through and what goes on in their head, not sure why you felt the need to say this. Because you said this: any kind of frustration makes one more likely to resort to violence, it's not even specific to incels. My response makes perfect sense. You said frustration leads to violence. I said I disagre…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 05:36 PM
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Why give women the ability to make this statements by ignoring violent incels? You’re not going to sit here and say they don’t exist are you? You wrote all that yet many women here get men telling us violence will befall us if these men don’t get their way. Where’s all this smoke then? Why are women pointing out these people worse than… the people stating they will be violent?!?!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 03:49 PM
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Extremists who call for violence are applauded? I feel like there may be some nuance missing can you link it please.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 03:47 PM
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You’re common. More than you realise because I’ve helped gentlemen’s who have been self proclaimed incel and the issue wasn’t a lack of women it was them. Why say all this when it’s not actually true Genuine question. It’s not a gotcha it’s more of a why do y’all do this? Why say you’re invisible to women when you aren’t? What do you actually want? Do you know ? Again these are all genuine questions because I’ve seen this happen so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 03:32 PM
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See, so you are in fact trolling. I said they're more likely to be, not that they WILL be. It's obvious, So it’s not guaranteed, these men are just more likely to be violent… I’m assuming that’s why you brought it up, as a warning, right? As something I should be afraid of? I mean I’m not guaranteed to get mugged if I walk down a dark alley in a dangerous neighborhood it’s just more likely, you realize I treat things ‘more likely’ to be dangerous as dangerous right? So if you’re gonna state ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 03:06 PM
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Oh the horror! You have to put effort into having a girlfriend! Next you’ll tell me you have to try to get a job, a home, a car, friends!!! You’re telling me they don’t just get handed to us like I got trophies as a kid!? But that would mean my life requires me to do stuff to make myself happy, that’s a pretty huge slap in the face. Obviously /s.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 01:46 PM
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Did you read the entire string or jump right to the bottom because accusing me of trolling is not cool. I clearly pointed out this entire string is correcting me because incels are quiet docile men you’re now here without any kind of pushback stating these men will be violent. Should I be scared of incels or what? Let’s clarify. Are they dangerous or are they quiet safe men who need compassion?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 01:35 PM
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Wait I thought they were all quiet docile run of the mill men! And women daring to say they’re dangerous was us being disgusting hatefilled evil women! Thanks for your quotable quote sir!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 01:27 PM
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Absolutely. Don’t chase something just because someone else told you it’s important. If you’re happy and complete, be happy
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 07:35 AM
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I’m misandrist for pointing out the blatant hypocrisy of how women here experience more pushback, arguments and corrections from men when we speak on the fucked up shit said by incel/black pillers instead of the actual incel/black pillers?! BFFR! Respectfully I don’t want to engage in this convo anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 03:59 AM
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Silenced how, say it with your chest, don’t beat around the bush. This is a prime example of the wild shit stated that goes unchallenged. Silenced how?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 03:10 AM
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Google says otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 10:46 PM
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Let me get this straight. I’m supposed to believe the 19 year old dudes who frequent the anti work subs because they don’t wanna be no wage slaves are the same men holding up society? BFFR!!! Bring me a construction worker, he will know without a shadow of doubt he is valued in society. Bring me a service man, a police officer, an electrician, a plumber, I will personally buy them all a meal, express my appreciation and if they aren’t dating make it my mission to find them partners because they …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 10:44 PM
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I have compassion for those struggling. I don’t have compassion for those struggling who want to cause me harm. Non violent minded incel men along with redpill men allow these men to represent them, they say nothing to them, but they have a lot to say to the women who point out their existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 07:23 PM
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Dude YOU brought up Muslims.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 05:59 PM
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I also already answered. You apparently also didn’t like my answer so you’re continuing to ask. As I stated it was a fact, that’s why the fact was stated. Your questions been answered.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 05:45 PM
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And again I’ll ask what caused you to hone in on the word? It doesn’t matter one way or the other so it’s addition changes nothing, right? What do you think my intent was. I think we will get much more further just cutting to the chase, respectfully it’s getting harder and harder each response to believe this was a genuine question and not an attempt at a ‘gotcha’ mixed with some good old fashioned sea lioning.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 05:27 PM
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It’s not a goal, it’s a fact. If women were responding and defending them then I would have said a more inclusive word, but I’m specifically speaking on the men here, in this conversation, debating with me, in this specific instance. Why do you think me using the phrase men caused you to respond?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 04:51 PM
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What was your intent then. Let’s unpack this. I’m ready with ears open. You’re earnest let’s go, let’s converse.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 04:35 PM
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Read the responses to me. Those are all examples of pushback. But if an incel is on here stating men will be violent if they don’t get girlfriends, there’s often no one correcting him. If these men don’t represent incels and they’re the loud minority and they’re who women hear why would people spend so much time correcting women who read this shit with “ not all incels” and not correct the incels who literally state they speak for all hell they claim they’re the majority of men and crickets. I’v…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 04:31 PM
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I feel like you answered your own question so it’s not really being asked in earnest. Counts up to 4 though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 04:28 PM
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To be fair I was referencing the wrong person. He did literally call women disgusting: Ironic women love the "no bullying" shitty campaign and protect animals and victims and all shit, yet they are such hypocrites that they love to punch men that were just not genetically lucky. Disgusting. I linked a comment I made that referenced a post from incel.is. I guess it would help you guys if I linked the actual site but I don’t want to get banned. there are many references there for committing violen…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 04:12 PM
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THIS POST IS DIRECTED AT REDPILL MEN!!!! The poster responded, meaning he’s red pill. I responded. At this point you’re being purposefully obtuse. I’m done.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 03:20 PM
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Correct you came asked the question in the middle of a conversation. I answered you still aren’t clear, so my advise is go back and see what I’m directly responding to.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 03:17 PM
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I agree where did I mention them? What the reference? Follow the original comment from there. If you’re still confused I can quote if it’ll help. So much time spent correcting me. I just want to make this point/
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 03:11 PM
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Anyways, most common causes of inceldom are probably being ugly, socially awkward and having untreated mental illness. But people really like the stereotype of the evil, irredeemable incel who deserves it because it gives them someone they can shit. Here’s the second paragraph and you’re right he didn’t my bad it was the subsequent commenter. They just want a punchbag, literally how bullies see nerds and weak guys. Ironic women love the "no bullying" shitty campaign and protect animals and victi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 03:09 PM
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I understood and agree with his first point his second point I what I was contesting. He’s literally claiming it’s disgusting people judge unattractive people who… want to commit crimes… because a woman won’t hold his hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 03:01 PM
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I’m responding to this Anyways, most common causes of inceldom are probably being ugly, socially awkward and having untreated mental illness. But people really like the stereotype of the evil, irredeemable incel who deserves it because it gives them someone they can shit. You’ve spent way more time correcting me than the incels giving people these impressions. That’s the point I was making
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 02:37 PM
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If he cared enough to complain about the differentiation, he should care enough about where the impressions are coming from. Incels and black pillers love to insist they represent the majority of men. With ZERO pushback but let a woman say black pillers are [ insert whatever ] and income the corrections, make it make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 02:25 PM
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Nah the incel do it to themselves And there’s never any pushback from redpillers. But let a woman say something. It’s clear they don’t have a problem with the ones being evil they just don’t want it acknowledged.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 01:48 PM
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Yes nothing teaches a young man these lessons more than lying to him by pretending to be a woman interested in him only to reveal your true identity and when he’s at his lowest tell him no one can ever love him unless he’s good looking. I realize misery loves company but holy fuck. Seems to me they’re not so much concerned as they are trying to actively indoctrinate.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 01:29 PM
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I was responding to the chadfishing post so I googled stacyfishing and a post from incel.is came up. All I have to say is holy fuck… This could be a superior tactic to spread blackpill ideology if anyone would want to waste their time on this. Use a Beckyfish account and swipe right on incel tier fools, make them desperate, lead them on, and torture them in chat (one word responses to his essays spread out over multiple texts). Let them grind. Their hormones will be racing. Become more interacti…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 02:53 AM
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I’m familiar with your stance, it’s one shared by many here, you essentially repeated what I stated. The only difference is you seemed to miss the point about the very obvious scapegoating women. Look at your stance, “there’s no point in trying so why try” that’s your right to feel that way, but own it. So often it’s “I’m not trying because women are [insert evil characteristic] “ Many men state this when they really mean “I’m not trying because I have anxiety/ I’m afraid/ I’m insecure/ I have s…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 01:37 AM
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Oh my bad. No, I don’t think the current dating landscape is all on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 12:49 AM
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So what advice do you have then? I was asked my opinion, not advise. Also you believe none of this is on women? Womens vaginas don’t create winners and losers ( yeah yeah give birth, you know what I mean) I remember reading multiple times actually dudes here saying it’s women’s fault they didn’t accomplish anything because women givemen the drive to succeed, so if they didn’t have a girlfriend they didn’t have drive. Like can these guys have any less accountability? They’re expecting women to gi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 12:46 AM
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Because she’s attractive… nothing else matters… you think she could pull all that off as an ugly woman? These lonely men want attractive women’s attention, not any woman, attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 11:27 PM
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What?! Flirty?! Nah it’s an insult, just like virgin, just like whore, just like frigid, people like to use someone’s sexuality as an insult. Nothing new both ends get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 10:10 PM
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I’m sorry you’re getting so much pushback. I feel like you’re answering genuinely and honestly and it’s not being respected.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 09:40 PM
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F, 36, LTR, previously married young. I think it’s a bunch of young folks, mostly men who fell down a rabbit hole of conspiracy theories no different than pizzagate and have convinced themselves they are more intelligent than the average person because they ‘know the truth’ when really they’re lost scared and confused which I don’t blame them, the world right now fucking sucks for young people. If a fairy came down and offered to make me 21 again but in todays world I’d politely tell them to fuc…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 09:13 PM
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Statistically speaking men end up better off in divorce It’s always fascinating to me how often this statement is made yet no one seemed to actually look at the research in the topic which says the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 06:39 PM
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How do you keep claiming you aren’t declaring women need to service men when you turn around and infer it with painful accuracy. “Sexless men are dangerous without porn and video games.” That sounds like a them problem unless you’re saying to fix this WOMEN NEED TO SERVICE THEM. But let’s be real here general fear mongering amounts to nothing, this isn’t 1624 where pillaging is common place. We have prisons. These men can go there, America benefits greatly from prison labor. So all these multipl…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 05:36 PM
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Yep. Unattractive friend consistently got turned down when she approached attractive men. ( so funny how men here swear up and down chads regularly fuck ugly women, I only ever witnessed these men politely turn her down) She was about to be a 30 year old virgin. Hit on her below average husband and they lived happily ever after. It definitely benefitted her to learn what her league was.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 03:18 AM
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It kinda feels like you’re attaching morality to looks. There are plenty of unattractive good well adjusted happy accomplished men and women. They are in each others dating pool. The issues come up when they don’t want to date them because they’re unattractive. But that can be the case for any level, there are average men and women who don’t want to date average men and women. Again it is what it is. The problem is them not the dating field.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 05:24 PM
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I think it’s both. I think social proof matters to women on a subconscious level for two reasons 1)because the man is deemed ‘safe’ 2)because women compete with one another and status matters. With that being said I think it’s given WAY too much weight here and ignores attraction. Physical attraction holds more weight than social proof. I’m not going to care if a hot hunk of man meat never dated. Also social proof can backfire. I chose not to date one of my friends, not because I wasn’t physical…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 04:48 PM
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I read that, it was about chimps, it didn’t answer my question of why be mad at women for men making themselves available to said women? It’s being mad at women for not having men’s best interest at heart, when men don’t have each others best interest at heart. Like y’all aren’t even looking out for each other but women are supposed to? If I’m a woman who wants to have casual sex what logical reason would I have to not fuck the most physically attractive man available to me? The only thing that …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 04:12 PM
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For starters, I’m not attracted to unattractive men. The most important trait in men for me is their face so other aspects matter less: height matters less, weight matters less, muscles matter less, hair matters less. But that’s me. There are women who are most attracted to height so face matter less or muscles so height matter less or hair so face matters less. Once the looks threshold is met then other things comes into play - personality, career, world view, children. It’s all weighted. It al…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 03:55 PM
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Please stop following my responses around and responding with “but women too” I’m purposefully ignoring these responses for a reason. If you want to actually have a debate discussion about this subject we can.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 03:41 PM
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It didn’t answer my question at all. Your response to that person was about mating strategies and male sexual frustration, it didn’t address the cognitive dissonance of men worshipping the very men causing their perceived harm.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 03:38 PM
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It’s odd you’re really sticking to this mentally ill scenario. I must say I’m not sure why you’re doing so but it’s hard to debate/discuss when it’s already been addressed: no one’s forcing anyone to date anyone much less mentally ill individuals, if that’s all that’s in someone’s dating pool it is what it is, the odds of that being the case is incredibly slim for a mentally sound man. Homeless people tend to be in each others dating pool, so if homeless people are the only folks in one’s dating…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 03:31 PM
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In a lot of ways it is. A lot of people are just terrible partners. Most people would rather be single. I don’t want the people in my dating pool so I’m choosing to be single VS There’s no one in my dating pool, I would take anyone but no one wants me. Are two very different statements, one victimizes, the other is simply based on reality. How do you have a relationship with a homeless drug addict and stay out of the hospital and jail? Ask the people in relationships with homeless drug addicts. …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 02:48 PM
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If that’s his dating pool, that’s his dating pool. Not liking the people in said dating pool is not the same as zero prospects.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 12:50 PM
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Pretty much sums up so many people today. “Why tell me the truth when there must be an ulterior motive or you are trying to hurt me?!” Jesus you couldn’t have avoided the question more if you tried. Of course there’s an ulterior motive here. This wasn’t written as a debate, it’s barely a CMV it’s a thinly veiled rant. Again what’s the end goal here? It should be easy to articulate. Also can we just be real here, why would socially/sexually/romantically successful women listen to socially/sexuall…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 06:56 AM
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What’s the end goal of telling people the truth? Let’s be real here “Hey you young woman in her prime you better not have casual sex with hot men, and not because that one random 26 year old virgin online feels insecure, it’s definitely not that it’s because the truth doesn’t care about your feelings!!”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 06:00 AM
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If it’s not revenge what is it? Concern? Nothing gets people to feel cared about than telling them they aren’t as great as they think they are and they’ll get humble when they age and no one wants them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 05:11 AM
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Feminists created capitalism? These chicks are actively working against themselves, what’s pro women about sky rocketing profits for a select few on the backs of the lower class?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 05:05 AM
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I didn’t say men should lower their standards. I said they should figure out their dating pool, I don’t think anyone should lower their standards if they don’t want to. It’s more recognizing limitations and hardships and accepting them or improving oneself and not making excuses of ‘no one will date me’ we all have dating pools. I wouldn’t date a homeless mentally disturbed drug addict because the men in my dating pool are superior to that, doesn’t mean they aren’t in someone’s dating pool just …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 04:42 AM
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Nope. I'm actually saying that the personality traits that women hover towards are more likely to be held by a man focused on sex. So personality matters more than looks? Nice. Also you’re quite literally attaching morality to sexual success as if all sexually unsuccessful men are good hearted puppy savers. Also we’re so far from my original point we may as well be having a completely different discussion. While the traits that are more likely to be held by a man focused on bonding tend to be de…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 04:36 AM
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So women are doing that and not the men here? You seem to be arguing for the second point, which is fine but it directly contradicts the first point, which was my point: It creates a negative morality to male sexuality saying the only thing stopping a man from using a woman for sex is how attractive he is. And that using people perceived as less attractive is ok to do, unless they’re a man…then you should ignore attraction and do everything possible to show absolute attraction to this person you…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 02:14 AM
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It really does beg the question why be mad at women? It seems attractive men are the ones monopolizing the Dating field. Most people if given an option will choose the better option. It’s the better option who’s casual sexing down.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 12:36 AM
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Nope he inadvertently said the quiet part out loud and is as he claims he’s doing here getting “called out” for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 11:25 PM
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If you had gorgeous women throwing themselves at you, would you seriously say "sorry ladies, you're out of my league, I need to stick with 5s"? Thanks for the quotes it helps, also exactly, I’m constantly pointing out the fact that the men here are angry women aren’t acting in a way that benefits men and they do so with their full chest like it makes perfect sense. I think that’s the flaw of manosphere spaces it strokes egos and tells men what they want to hear, it doesn’t care about logic, or e…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 11:12 PM
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What exactly are you calling out? You just posted a paragraph, what about this should I be noticing and viewing as overt hypocrisy as you’re suggesting all through this post? I don’t know the context and it seems they’re acknowledging the differences even though I disagree with ‘as horny’ stance. I think you’re having trouble expressing your stance because it’s coming off as an aggressive accusation, unfortunately you’re gonna get pushback, if your goal is to open up a conversation via this CMV …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 10:54 PM
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Seriously speaking is this something that’s odd for you to see?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 10:00 PM
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The issue is unattractive men being upset their hyper eager sexuality isn’t accepted by who they deem desirable and viewing that as a rejection of their entire existence. Well that and hiding their fear of trying behind a caricature of evil women who send men to prison if they dare to speak to them. Young men need to set their damn libido aside for two seconds and take the time to learn what their dating pool is, it would save so many egos and so much exasperation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 09:56 PM
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But a woman who is the perfect match for an ‘average’ guy is only worth sex to a chad. Let’s compare that to your response. If she’s worthy to an average man what makes her suddenly only a hole when it’s chad? If a man states a woman’s only worth sex, why is it wrong for her to view men only wanting sex? Don’t y’all create your own problems by hiding your hand with this language?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 08:58 PM
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I’ve noticed there’s a section of men who claim to be “pro sex work” but are anti sex work that doesn’t directly benefit men for example only fans, cam girls, phone sex. Am I wrong. Let’s sit with that. Why is it men are anti only fans but pro prostitution and women are pro only fans anti prostitution What’s the common denominator here. It’s obvious to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 08:17 PM
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PPD men - women are so dumb they think the only thing men want from them is sex. Stop demonizing male sexuality! Most relationships today start from casual sex. Women are valued, men aren’t! Also PPD men - women are so dumb they don’t realize these men only want them for sex. Average women think they’re 10’s because a chad pump and dumps her, the only thing valuable about you is your vagina, get over yourself!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 08:12 PM
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What accountability?!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 07:14 PM
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Nope I’m not. Don’t make extreme statements if what’s really meant is completely different.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 06:15 PM
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So their existence is erased because straight men is the default?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 05:40 PM
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Is the ‘acknowledgement’ not holding women accountable for male horniness? I don’t follow where you’re going with this
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 05:37 PM
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If that was the case wouldn’t it be happening now?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 05:32 PM
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It’s not about focusing on oneself it’s about focusing on someone else to make you happy. If you actually have a full life, good support system. Etc, dating won’t break you. It gives a more secure dating experience you aren’t latching to the first person to smile in your direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 03:46 PM
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I feel like this list may as well be titled neurodivergent brain vs neurotypical brain. Flirting cannot and likely will not ever be something with rules to follow. And often it can be boiled down to the vibe being given off which of course is hard to define,there are no flirting checklists like look they did A that means B, that is what makes one’s detector bad. Also and I’m saying this respectfully and in general: The “he/she was flirting with you!” Folks can’t always be trusted. I’ve witnessed…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 01:34 PM
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If a dudes walking around the earth looking for literally any opening to access women, he’s gonna have a bad time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 01:34 PM
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Ok I think we’re not catching eachother main points. My main point with debating this other poster was he was attempting to challenge my statement about men here ( not all men not even a majority) viewing their manhood as a burden. It ignored my entire point and tried to once again redirect all focus to “women bad” I feel you’re doing the exact same thing. But I could be wrong. So that’s my end point. All the redirects go back to my original point that some men view their manhood as a burden and…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 06:18 PM
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So men are frustrated with their attraction… to women… Before I go any further let’s confirm we’re on the same page…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 06:11 PM
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Me too. I fear the day my boyfriend shaves 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 06:02 PM
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Yeah it’s all saying it in a politically correct way. Nothings been said outside normal attraction though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 06:00 PM
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Aren’t you straight?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 05:59 PM
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I thought my response sent apologies. I essentially said don’t get me started in the participation trophy generation, and the irony is they will act like you stabbed them in the heart of you bring up entitlement but there’s no other way to describe complaining because one has to work to get what they want in life because “well this person didn’t, women don’t have to, so why should I have to” I agree, effort is seen as beneath them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 05:55 PM
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There is no solution to an entire sex because we don’t all act the same. If I sat here and said “all men are trash”, wouldn’t you automatically assume something was off with me to make said statement? Like my choices in men or my interactions or my interpretation of their actions was the actual problem? Let’s keep that same energy and logic. Many men here are mad at women at the value MEN give us. Did I create an atmosphere where my vagina is valuable? Did I create an atmosphere where being prom…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 05:51 PM
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I think people who have nothing else going for them when they prioritize dating tend to be doing so to fix something. They’re essentially shooting the selves in the foot because any rejection even perceived rejection is going to have an extreme reaction because, it’s their sole focus and they have nothing else.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 02:33 PM
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And yet another reason why dudes question made no sense. Women are judged for their sex partners. Why would she waste a number on a as you guys call them LVM?!?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 02:25 PM
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I agree with you. I was responding to the poster complaining about access to casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 02:21 PM
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If heterosexuality was the problem, there wouldn’t be so much blame on women. Notice you did it just now.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 06:20 AM
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I’m American. Isn’t it like 5’8 or something? In my entire life I’ve dated 2 men who were over 6 feet which statistically makes sense. My current and last 2 boyfriends have been my height. I value facial features much more than height.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 08:17 PM
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Have you seen Jared Leto?! that man is inhumanly attractive. Ryan Goslings pretty up there but Jared’s got him beat. I have still yet to have my stance negated. What proves these men who perceive themselves as average are actually average?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 08:13 PM
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Forget what? Explain what that last part mean please. It’s hard to respond as I don’t know what you’re inferring. I’m reading this as you inferring attractive men getting the most attention from women as something illogical. Do attractive women not get tons of attention from men? That doesn’t leave average women out. It leaves out ugly though. See where I’m going with this?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 08:09 PM
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Not a blog post! But seriously. You’re not refuting my stance. We all know above average, we all know below, how can such a varied middle mean nothing to the average woman? Isn’t it much more logical that the group who are by and large excluded as unattractive are in denial of their status and perceive how the world interacts with them is average. It’s a hard sell to insist most women ( cause we can’t all have access to the top 20% of men) live their entire lives never being attracted to any of …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 08:08 PM
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What you’re insinuating is that women are incapable of finding average people attractive, and that we can only find above average people attractive. You haven’t negated that that stance is from men who are viewing attraction through the lens of an unattractive man who believes he is average
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 08:01 PM
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CMV: So most people can agree on someone who’s above average in looks and someone who’s below average in looks. It’s average that tastes differ greatly and varies so much from person to person. I think guys who have concluded women only find 20% of men attractive are in denial of where they fall.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 06:45 PM
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While I agree social proof exists, it’s not the end all be all you’re suggesting. Most the time if no one wants someone there’s a reason, it’s a stretch to place that blame all on preselection. You think a rich, model who volunteers on the weekends bathing puppies is going to struggle to find a mate because other women aren’t around him?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 06:33 PM
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You say this as if this is some horrific reality over just being a matter of fact. SMV works this way. Male sexuality is not highly sought after.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 05:32 PM
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It’s what they perceive. They view sex as the ultimate most important thing in the world And women have unlimited access. So everything else doesn’t matter, they get to have sex, their lives are charmed. They see manhood as a burden
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 03:36 PM
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I wouldn’t say “behavior” I’d say feminine coded. Masculine coding is about being the leader, having control, protecting, stoicism, providing, desiring more than being desired. Incels don’t want to do any of that, they desire being feminine coded. Everything considered the feminine role is what’s they desire, they want to be pursued, they see providing as a burden and protection as risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 03:33 PM
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You literally just proclaimed resource possession and baby making. You took the road first. Why can’t it be people don’t want to be with undesirable people. Why does it have to be societal ruin unless people suck it up? Can we just be real here. The issue is unattractive folks tend to not want to date other unattractive folks but that’s their dating field. This demand that an average or above average woman suck it up and be with an unattractive or otherwise undesirable man because he deemed hims…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 03:02 PM
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So the men don’t have the ability to freely choose sex partners they’re limited and women aren’t. And you’re arguing women should choose the lesser of her options why exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 02:52 PM
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If that’s her choice, where’s bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 02:50 PM
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I’m pretty sure it specifically said young people but that’s not the point: a woman having sex with men she wants to have sex with is following her nature. Many men here advise women act differently for their benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 02:48 PM
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I’m not following. Also didn’t studies show were all collectively having less sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 12:10 PM
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I'm wiling to consider your opinion, but people here downplay the importance of looks Or some overplay them. Let's be honest Yes let’s, you realize people can see your post history right? Respectfully, your mindset is going to win here. if you have an attractive guy who knows how to please his partners? How can an average guy be as good as me? Is the average guy also at the same level? How can the average guy be as good, is the woman actually in love with the average guy? That’s how. That's why …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 12:06 PM
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Dual income as in its hard to survive if either one’s broke. Adulting in 2023 is not for the weak… or broke… I don’t have casual sex so can’t really answer for motivations but my obvious understanding would be these are two completely different thresholds. A woman can pull well out of her league for casual sexual, it’s sex, whah does it matter what dude does with his time? Looksmatch dude is not casual sex dude. The threshold is different, again why am I consistently teaching red pill men red pi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 05:28 AM
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I was genuinely unaware where you were going with your statements.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 05:18 AM
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Dang how can I argue with studies… not like owning a vagina couldn’t give me first hand knowledge the best sex I had wasn’t with the most attractive man I’ve dated.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 05:17 AM
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Of course he does, even single, he should be caring for and providing for himself what obscure straw men are we arguing here. Are we demanding grown men be able to fuck women who take on the adult caretaker role?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 05:14 AM
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The Black Pill piggy backing on the Red Pill idea of hypergamy makes a value judgement on it. This is because from my experience most black pillers want to be women I’ve made that observation. Not saying that as a threat to their sexuality, I’m not insinuating they’re gay or trans, its just a very real jealousy I think it’s being young and having a strong sex drive so sex is literally the most important thing in the world to them and viewing women through the same lens, “ if I was a woman I can …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 01:25 AM
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It’s 2023, what resources?! Most couples are dual income.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 10:02 PM
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Amen. Fact is unattractive/undesirable men do not represent the majority, no matter what Reddit says and people tend to get into relationships with their looksmatch where there’s mutual attraction. Do ugly people risk not being attracted to their partners? Probably, but again they also don’t account for the majority. So you’re taking an issue that would affect a specific subset and instead of open a dialogue that may be interesting you’re insisting it’s how everyone thinks. You know that’s easil…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 09:59 PM
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The sounds like something someone says to make themselves feel better. Have you ever had sex with someone you’re in love with? Ain’t no way meaningless selfish sex with a chad is better.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 09:48 PM
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You’ll still get rejected which still hurts.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 09:38 PM
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My bad I was confused
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 09:31 PM
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Do you think there’s no risk in dating for women? Genuine question.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 09:30 PM
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I am literally saying the same thing you are. People shouldn’t do things to benefit others.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 08:11 PM
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Why would we be afraid of rejection if the success rate would be so high?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 03:20 PM
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You meant that but you said this? Women in dating... playing in tutorial mode and still finding a way to lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 03:18 PM
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Right if you’re looking at doing tasks as requiring reward, most of adulting will feel like a thankless chore. Guess what? Cause it is! No but seriously. Thinking a+b should automatically get me c is missing the effort on the back end.if I lose weight to make myself more attractive, I’m not gonna wake up with a husband and 2.5 kids, I still gotta do the work, it’s just going to be with one less barrier
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 03:07 PM
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Are you confusing SMV with RMV?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 02:41 PM
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I only get annoyed when men lie and say they’re 5’9 when they’re my height. My height is listed, how did you not think I’d notice were the same fucking height! Which I don’t care but why lie and not pursue shorter women who won’t notice
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 02:32 PM
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I just said the exception is how out of his league she is? I’m sorry I get frustrated when people are quick to argue against what I’m saying without accounting for everything I said. It’s all about perceived value and women approaching takes away the challenge you know the saying people don’t value what comes easy to them. A woman a man sees as valuable OF COURSE he wants her to woo him. Especially the men here they have a damn complex over feeling undesired. A woman coming to him, proves to him…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 12:57 PM
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Of course
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 12:35 PM
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There are a lot of people that do that today, it stinks, I’m sorry you experience that. Catfishes are getting bad too, there are people out there though, best of luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 04:35 AM
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Yeah I just always wonder why people use tinder. As a woman I don’t use it because it’s pretty we’ll known for what it’s purpose is and if I was a man I’d feel like I’d realize women aren’t giving up the good to strangers in large enough numbers for it to be worthwhile. I didn’t like bumble but hinge was pretty decent
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 04:23 AM
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Oh yeah fuck that don’t pay those vultures Do you mind me asking why you use tinder? Isn’t it something like 80% male?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 04:20 AM
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No dice. I’m kidding but seriously I used to help. I don’t anymore I had some bad experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 04:14 AM
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Are you above average tall and making 6 figures like the other guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 04:12 AM
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Without seeing your swiping activity it would be pretty hard for me to give you a definitive opinion. But I will say 6 likes isn’t zero and if 6 women showed interest in you in real life I’d think it would be pretty happy, why is 6 likes online the equivalent to complete destitution? Are they bots? Unattractive? What was the issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 04:09 AM
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I’d say this gentleman has some things to work through before online or in person dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 04:06 AM
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Yes! The post earlier where the guy was like why don’t people talk about things when they date… I’m just sitting there like what do you think people do on dates? Send one another nudes then Fuck eachother in the booth at outback steak house?!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 03:39 AM
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There’s a distinct difference between no matches and no likes. If I don’t swipe I don’t get matches I can’t then in good faith proclaim I get no matches in OLD. If I’m only swiping well above my league I can’t state I get no matches. See where I’m going with this. What do your likes look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 03:38 AM
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I’m sorry the math ain’t mathing you’re telling me an average man making 6 figures can’t find an ugly woman to settle down. You do realize women want commitment right? Are you sure everyone’s levels are accurate? Give me his number, I’ll get him dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 03:32 AM
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Seems like a pretty easy solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 03:30 AM
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Men want to have sex, this is a well known thing. The male imperative is quite different from the female imperative. As a woman I don’t have sex as a hello. It’s not how I get to know someone. Why? Well one I don’t have the desire to but also Because that someone could simply be attempting to extract sex from me. So to mitigate that risk I don’t fuck strangers. Red pillers often point out women don’t understand that men will dangle relationships to get sex, or that just because someone has sex w…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 12:24 AM
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I think you may have misinterpreted what I stated, let me clarify. I don't look at it as perceived value, personally. That would be very silly. I can think whatever I want about myself, if it’s positive that will show but I cannot control how someone else perceives my value. And every individual is going to perceive my value differently. I’m middle class and average, a lower class unattractive man will perceive my value as high whereas an upperclass above average man will see my value as low. A …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 12:03 AM
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Relationship oriented women tend to view sex talk as a red flag on a first date so this really brings up the question: who are you dating? First dates absolutely consist of where you from? what do you do? What do you do for fun? What are your interests? I mean yeah don’t bust out with trauma but conversations where you get to know one another are quite normal, depending on the connection it’s typical to go even deeper, thoughts about the universe, dreams for the future, hell funny memes, it’s al…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 11:10 PM
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I think this is a case of a few bad apples ruining the bunch. I’ve always been more forward in dating and it has at times been to my detriment. A stigma still remains when women approach. The exception being how out of his league the woman is and/or how capable/incapable a man is in the dating field. Think of the concept of a slut. Think of one of the synonyms: easy. A woman who is ‘easy’ is deemed as a net negative ( that’s the concept ) what does ‘easy’ mean? A non challenge. It was not hard t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 09:20 PM
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Or opt out.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 08:18 PM
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Can we say the quiet part loud? Male sexuality is not nor has it ever been viewed as particularly valuable. The saying is Sperm is cheap eggs are expensive. Also men are in competition with one another to “ impregnate women” women aren’t in competition to get sperm, the exception being ‘high valued’ sperm. At no point in my life has my libido been as strong as a man’s. I like to fuck, don’t get me wrong but it’s not the same drive as men have, it’s a completely different animal. Men hunt/desire …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 08:15 PM
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It’s seen as a punishment.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 06:42 PM
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If we’re gonna dig into this let’s dig into this I disagree.Here’s why: I think some men who are unsuccessful in the dating market DO indeed want to place blame. It’s a need to not only explain why their failures aren’t their fault but actually demonize women for not choosing them. There’s a lot going on with some men especially young men add neurodivergent men with a very black and white view of justice and good and bad and online spaces have given them a scapegoat to put that pain on, but basi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 04:07 PM
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Attractive men still exist. Taking social media away doesn’t remove their existence. You’re just making regional chads 😂. I may not see them in social media but I’m gonna see them around town. You think my brains just gonna see an ugly dude and not know it? I know you saw that Chad earlier but this guy…this guy… Men have the burden of their libido, women don’t, you cant put the cat back in the bag, we know attractive people exist and we don’t have to settle to survive. Women open to dating unatt…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 12:41 PM
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Respectfully, I must say I don’t get this idea that if one can’t fit into the neurotypical, able bodied society there’s no other way of living. Maybe it’s privilege of always living in well populated areas, and I’m willing to own that, I’m just painfully aware of disabled circles existing. So I never get why they aren’t seen as an obvious option. Deaf communities are often incredibly welcoming and obviously not speaking would hardly be seen as a hindrance. Was that never an option for you? Where…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 04:54 AM
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Neither is mentioning someone’s height yet here we are.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 02:10 AM
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I explained myself before you started. You said she’s treating you like she’s doing you a favor. You’re acting in the same manner. You said not every man can have a roster. You’re acting like you’re doing her a favor. Two people acting in the same manner
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 01:43 AM
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Your reasons are your reason believe it or not I’m not knocking you for that I’m just saying it’s the kettle calling the pot black. Neither one’s hands are clean. Why be offended by her actions?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 12:59 AM
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And you literally have her on a roster. Why is she bad and you good? This reads like two people being not nice to the person they’re dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 12:49 AM
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I agree. That’s likely where he was going, it’s the common idea. My question was why would a woman heed warnings from men who would benefit from her changing? Why would she put her best interests and advantages aside? Red Pill literally teaches men to take full advantage, yet every day here you see advisements for women to do the opposite. If I’m an unattractive woman who has so much SMV I can literally fuck celebs ( I doubt this is actually happening but it was stated so I’m using it as the bas…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 12:43 AM
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How is bringing up height emasculating? If I’m expected to draw conclusions from her actions and basic deducing don’t you think it’s fair to do the same for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 12:31 AM
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Yeah. And before you even start questioning me I’ll ask How is bringing up your height emasculation. Just like you’re inferring, it’s pretty easy to infer the disrespect you’re verbalizing to us as a response. Anyways, I'm just going to remove this girl from my roster. You knew what you were doing when you said this, yet her actions make you clutch your pearls? Come on man.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 10:35 PM
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Female celebs tend to be above average in looks, and status matters to men, it may matter to a different level to them but being black and being surrounded by black women I’ve absolutely witnessed men hide women due to fear of what others would think so spare me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 10:14 PM
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You’re complaining about a woman not treating you well as you’re simultaneously not treating her well Sounds like you’re disrespecting one another.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 10:11 PM
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The unfortunate reality is if a guy has to be trained in online forums about things that are learned naturally socially he’s not likely to be viewed as desirable in the first place. So your point isn’t really gonna be seen as a loss. I don’t like cold approaching. I think it has a HUGE looks threshold and I don’t think sexually unsuccessful men should rely solely on it for this very reason. Warm approaching is a better option but it requires being social or having a social group. Which lets be h…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 10:09 PM
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The irony of that last sentence is not lost on me. chefs kiss
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 09:13 PM
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My bad!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 09:03 PM
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Meaning? Can you expand on what you’re asking?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 04:41 PM
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You’re painting this as a travesty that your young cousin is experiencing rejection at a young age. That’s natural. Having our hearts desire not feel the same is a pretty common part of dating, especially when young when we’re still starry eyed and idealistic
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 04:34 PM
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How is that quantifiable? Tastes differ. Yeah there’s a threshold where most agree someone is attractive or ugly, but most of us are in the middle. That’s why dating pools and leagues exist. One persons unattractive is another persons “would smash” I think a lot of gentlemen have a twofold problem, they struggle to figure out what their league is and an even harder time accepting it. So they instead just get mad the person they desire doesn’t desire them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 04:18 PM
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I think what bothers me about the arguments here made by men is it isn’t really based on red pill. Like red pill ‘exposes’ all these truths about SMV and status and looks. Yet most of these posts boil down to complaining about these truths. You either accept them or you don’t. You got guys here saying: “women can get casual sex whenever they want and that’s not fair” Do y’all accept the red pill or not?! Cause logically it makes perfect sense if the sexual market has been explained and exposed. …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 04:14 PM
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So… yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 04:00 PM
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Well is what you said the male equivalent of what she said which would be redpill or was it absolutism?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 03:58 PM
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My choice is: Alone. Harem. Alone. Ugly guy. I don’t want someone I find unattractive touching me in a sexual manner. The thought feels violating. I think most people feel this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 03:54 PM
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Why does it bother you that it’s said? Do you feel women should accept not feeling valued because men have an imperative to spread their seed?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 03:49 PM
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Honestly I think we’re just defining the word ‘bad’ differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 03:45 PM
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I’d say it more of a defense of the accusations. That post from yesterday about the hot asshole. I confirmed a hot asshole is better than an ugly asshole. I then got called an immoral heathen. I tried to link it but it got removed i think. This sub consistently paints this idea of “ just be honest” but really it’s the same as when someone gets dumped and they ask for closure. They don’t really want closure they want the ability to debate what’s being stated. I am very honest about my shallowness…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 03:35 PM
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Refusal to accept reality? Identifying the 80/20 rule is liters about accepting reality. Then why is it presented as a complaint? As something being done to men vs reality. Refusing to accept it is to pretend that there is no large discrepancy, and that anyone can have any amount of causal sex if they have a good personality. Who’s telling men all they need to be able to pump and dump is be nice?!? I need names! It can’t be women, lots of sex with random people is a male desire and mindset, it d…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 03:23 PM
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Yeah I made the same point yesterday. Convoluting the two definitely purposeful. Saying 80% of men aren’t able to pump and dump doesn’t have the same potency of 80% of men are missing out on intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 02:59 PM
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Ah I see. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 02:53 PM
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Bad or reality, is saying is it actually bad or just tantrum throwing? Because of a refusal to accept reality that some things are harder to achieve for some rather than others. If someone’s 5’8 they can still play in the NBA It’s just going to be harder to reach that goal, that’s not bad, it’s reality. To me bad would be a rule that excluded men under 5’11 from playing in the NBA, that would be discriminatory shorter people are literally being blocked from access to something. But that’s not wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 02:49 PM
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So because men only want to fuck hot women if they fuck not hot women they’re still virgins. Does the looks of the man come into the equation at all? It’s going to be an extreme struggle for an unattractive guy to have casual sex with an attractive woman but he could realistically date, have casual sex with, whatever with his equal But since that’s not what he truly wants it doesn’t count. Don’t get me wrong I appreciate you saying the quiet part loud. I’ve always been well aware incels tend to …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 02:42 PM
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Bad or reality? If I want something and I have to do something to get it or do without… is that not how it normally works? how is it bad? Cause it’s not being handed to the guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 02:38 PM
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And this is bad? Or just reality? Cause I’m viewing it as the later. Like if I want a designer bag, pouting isn’t going to do anything I either have to earn the money, or do without.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 02:35 PM
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If 80/20 is the natural state of distributions then it will naturally make its way to dating is your argument. But then you use phrases like “ left unchecked” which implies free will and bodily autonomy are bad things… I just want to confirm you recognize that. If the natural baseline is for 80% of women to want 20% of men… then that’s the natural state. Manipulation and control to ensure proper distribution of… pussy is a wild stance.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 02:32 PM
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But this individuals post is says it’s the amount of men women sleep with. He said it, why aren’t you correcting him?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 02:21 PM
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Why is sex only sex if it’s with attractive women? If that’s the case a lot of men are about to get their V cards back.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 02:18 PM
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I disagree but for arguments sake we will use your argument. So this is something most women want to engage in and get to engage in… and something most men want to engage in and don’t get to engage in. A disparity exists because women are choosing to only have meaningless sex with good looking men. So… most women do this with ease and few men do this with ease how did you reach the conclusion women are privileged and not the select few men?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 02:11 PM
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You could download grinder and fuck men by the end of the day too. You don’t desire that, If it’s not desired it’s not a privilege
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 01:25 PM
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Are you being serious right now? Genuinely asking. You do realize the sexual market is so flooded with dick I could feasibly fuck 5 men by the end of today, I wouldnt even have to try. It’s not a flex it’s a matter of reality. Our differences in sex drives and sexual imperatives means a huge difference in access.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 12:56 PM
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The complete improbability bothers me less than it being painted as a morality flaw that women are choosing to sleep with man A and not man B. It’s never presented as a oh look, it’s finger pointing judgement of ‘how dare you exercise bodily autonomy!’
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 12:50 PM
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Correct that’s how basic supply and demand works. Are all men required to experience casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 12:37 PM
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Most people don’t get to experience a lot of things. It’s not a requirement of being alive to experience casual sex, not everyone’s going to get the opportunity, the supply/demand is way too off, I never had an experiment phase, I’m alright.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 12:36 PM
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Sorry that happening. Report them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 06:28 AM
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I’ll have my hot asshole you’ll have your hot bitch we’re both winning in my book.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 06:24 AM
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Red pill or basic math? An attractive asshole still has his looks. An attractive charismatic good man is the best option. An unattractive asshole is at a net zero. Isn’t this obvious? Why add morals to it? It’s just basic math.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 01:34 AM
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So you agree. A persons ability to date out of their league is the obvious choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 01:30 AM
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Anyone can say she's wrong. Being delusional is an objectively bad character trait, man or woman. How is being delusional if one’s dating prospects hurting anybody? If I only want to sleep with men who can fly that’s my right. My delusions are my business. See you’re speaking from a belief that pussy is a commodity instead of something attached to a living breathing person with autonomy. If someone wants to get a face tattoo, I can think they’re an idiot and ruing their lives it means Jack shit …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 12:27 AM
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I agree. She’s choosing her fate. Who am I to say she’s wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 11:10 PM
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To be fair capitalism did say they aren’t to blame. So there’s that. Next you’re describing entities that actively cause harm. There is no harm in a woman choosing not to allow someone to enter her body. Your convoluting bodily autonomy with business practices that cause real harm. What real harm are women causing incels? Outside of their perceived slights what’s actually being done to harm them? I’m being serious. First off outside of online dating which is a sausagefest, he’s unlikely socializ…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 11:08 PM
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Who’s sitting down and calculating that?!? That’s my point. If I was in a scenario where everything’s split down the middle to that degree, I’d be out. I repeat he can keep it. The goal is to build together. But to answer your question if everything is split down the middle I’d imagine the money would be in his bank account… because we obviously don’t have a shared account so…where else would it be?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 10:57 PM
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Huh? I think you may have misread what I said. I stated society is well aware the power of vagina given men pay for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 10:53 PM
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Wait where did sharing come from? I said casual sex, although a harem for an A list celeb hmmm. You’re telling me you wouldn’t share Angelina Jolie? Of course you would. Would I share some random good looking guy? Of course not, for what? All he’s got going for him is his looks, big whoop. I’m not getting pumped and dumped by the cashier at kinkos cause he’s got good hair😂 No but seriously, there’s levels to this. I don’t have casual sex, but I’m dropping my drawers for an A lister. Haven’t you …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 10:46 PM
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Thanks for this. Another responder just finished telling me women need to recognize the limitations of our SMV since men are willing to fuck women well beneath their league but we will never get commitment. You’re confirming we can get both. There’s no losing in this scenario. You think an ugly man would date an ugly woman if average women were available to him?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 10:25 PM
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The point I was trying to make is that just because women get a lot of sexual attention from men doesn’t necessarily mean that they’re highly attractive. Men are prepared to have sex with women that they don’t consider all that attractive to scratch that itch that’s all I’m saying. In other news water is wet. Did you know some woman also have different standards for casual sex and relationships? Like for example, I don’t have casual sex but if I did, I’m not gonna fuck my equal, my SMV allows me…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 10:14 PM
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You cant blame 80% of men for what 20% of men are doing. That’s the point you can’t blame anyone because there is no blame to be had, the free market is doing what the free market does. A ‘fair’ distribution of pussy doesn’t exist nor will it ever. No one’s going to act in the best interest of someone else in competition and the dating world is at its core competitive. Now I just find it kinda comical to think 80% of men are lonely destitute and isolated, it’s just such a ridiculous idea, like I…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 06:38 PM
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In this scenario, he can keep it. I’m out. Why would I want to put myself through that? It’s telling me up front I’m going to be dealing with bs on a daily basis. “Hey honey can you put the clothes in the dryer?” “ nope, I make 20k more than you.” Who in their right mind would sign up for that?!?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 04:44 PM
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That’s fair, but who’s lying about womens access to sex? Do women really say they can’t get sex? I mean I don’t have the power to fuck celebs, I’m not pulling NBA players, but I can fuck above my league. In the casual sex market where dick is so plentiful most can’t give it away there is zero reason for me to fuck down. Men literally pay for pussy. Like who’s denying that?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 04:14 PM
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Exactly l!!! the market decides, not the individual. So if I as a woman can get an average man to commit to me the market decided I’m average. If a man who sees himself as average cant find an average woman to commit to him - that same market decided he’s not. If he’s mad about that because “women” he’s no different than that woman sad the hottie won’t commit. So again who’s delusional?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 01:47 PM
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I was asking. A persons private parts isnt the Salvation Army. If a woman wants to fuck celebs that’s her business. It’s not affecting shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 01:07 PM
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How are you helping her? Did she ask?
/r/AllPillDebate22/05/23 07:50 AM
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Amen! I agree. this response doesn’t match your other one.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 07:47 AM
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Shallow AF. Which one do you want? Cause if men want honesty from women they can’t get mad when they get it and resort to name calling, I’ve lost count of the amount of times I’ve read ‘we just want women to admit it’ I’ve never shied away from admitting shit, it’s not appreciated. Also fuck yeah it’s shallow! No man on this sub can honestly say he would pass up fucking a celebrity because checks notes it will make it harder for other women… like what? Dude would have his pants off in 2.3 second…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 07:45 AM
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What if there aren’t any solutions? What if not every man’s mean to be in the casual sex market due to basic supply and demand. I mean redpills not really working if it’s giving step by step things to accomplish and instead it’s just pipelining dudes to blackpill There’s a disconnect there I mean I know what it is but I’ll remain respectful
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 07:13 AM
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What value? The value of sleeping with a celebrity outweighs the bruised ego of them not wanting to date seriously. Even if Brad Pitt doesn’t want anything serious hey still fucked Brad Pitt. This doesn't just even apply to celebs Except it does the poster gave a specific example of unattractive women he knows being able to fuck celebrities and he painted it as a negative. In what word is that a negative? You think I’m gonna apply that to Jim job who lives 3 doors down. No sir, not the same. but…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 07:09 AM
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I mean…is she neurotypical? Kinda hard to not put two and two together with a damn celebrity. But hey If an unattractive woman believes a celebrity is gonna settle down with her, that’s really her cross to bear, I feel it would still be worth it . I don’t think y’all are getting the value of fucking literal celebrities. I doubt many are gonna pass it up, like imagine being sad Dwayne Johnson used you for sex. What do y’all say? “I still hit” most people have a hard enough time meeting celebs muc…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 06:24 AM
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Yeah I’m going to guess these are arguments of gentlemen’s who haven’t actually cohabitated, so to them it is all numbers. That’s why I asked many do y’all wanna be right or do y’all wanna be happy cause busting out a chore sheet based on income and labor input is not my idea of a good time, at that point why not just be alone?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 04:57 AM
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I’m privileged if I’m not willing to sacrifice my happiness for 15k a year? Thats 60 bucks a day. I’m not willing to share a house, a family and children with a man who thinks he’s superior to me because he makes 60 bucks more a day than I do. Again he can keep it. I asked many here in this thread do y’all wanna be right or do y’all wanna be happy or can we admit this whole debate is about insecurity and feeling one has to hoard something over a woman to feel valued, like they can’t imagine work…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 04:47 AM
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You said the difference of 45k to 60k My happiness and contentment with the family Id be building with a tit for tat man isn’t worth 15k No deal. Break into a 6 figure difference and maybe we’ll talk… then again eh still not worth my happiness. Sounds insufferable.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 03:20 AM
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I see. I think making that clear distinction changes the whole premise of the post
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 03:15 AM
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I responded to the poster who said men have very low standards for sex to the point that celebrities go after ugly women. Ugly women get to enjoy this. Why would they not?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 03:14 AM
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The power you stated. I never witnessed this phenomenon I’m talking your word for it. An unattractive woman is able to have a regular and active sex life with celebrities. Why would she not enjoy such an awesome prospect? She can settle down after everything’s said and done and she will always have those memories. Where’s bad? These scenarios are always from the male perspective but why would an unattractive woman not enjoy it? You wouldn’t fuck female celebrities if you could? I’d fuck male cel…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 03:12 AM
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They don’t. What’s odd?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 03:07 AM
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How did you know I had a career in basket weaving? Anyway you’re taking the common road of taking credit for all men. Plenty of men are perfectly fine with society and even dare I say have plenty to lose if it ends. So again empty threats. I’m not worried about infrastructure, police force, military, ending because those men hold power and they tend to be active participants in society many have wife’s, girlfriends, children family, friends people they love, social connections hell even Chads ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 03:05 AM
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*for sex. I don’t get why this is painted as a revelation. Men literally pay for pussy are you really arguing that even unattractive women can find men willing to fuck them? It’s not the same
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 02:37 AM
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“Guys willing to date an ugly woman” is as useful as “women willing to date an incel” if neither making themselves known. Ugly people date ugly people. Are unattractive women isn’t getting simps though it’s ridiculous to claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 02:26 AM
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Nah I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 02:17 AM
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Probably because if they’re a family it’s pretty wild to proclaim, I make 15 k more I don’t have to help with the kids or the upkeep of our shared home.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 02:16 AM
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Then why bring it up several times if it’s simply a matter of fact?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 02:12 AM
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So then they should work on that status and income. Red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 02:11 AM
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If I can’t blame men I can’t blame women. If men are allowed to take advantage of the market women are as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 02:04 AM
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What’s odd is you expect a woman to not use that power. Would you not use this power? Me personally I don’t have that power but if I did, I’m fucking celebs! No question, this is is my choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 02:03 AM
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So what you just said is a woman is practicing her SMV which is so high she can fuck literal celebs and bros mad. I mean what does it matter if she’s delusional, if a woman wants to delusional that’s her cross to bear. Are you saying she’s harming men by not making herself available to him?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 02:02 AM
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The fact that you’re explaining this and not one of the many men here who state they belong to red pill is fascinating to me. Like this is literally the red pill mindset. SMV, that’s red pill and yet, ohhhh women are delusional. I said this yesterday if I’m getting simps, and sex from hot dudes on tap and ease in finding relationships and the guy who think he’s my equivalent is jacking off before crying to sleep who’s really delusional here?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 01:54 AM
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Or they’re just not dating down. Let’s be real here a lot of these gentlemen’s issues beyond their inherent fear of approaching women to begin with is they don’t wanna date ugly even if they themselves are ugly. Men here seem to think all it takes to date a thin woman is to also be thin, it’s wild to me how they expect female attraction to work the exact same as men
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 01:43 AM
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The problem is complaining? So if women kept doing everything the exact same but didn’t complain you’d be good?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 01:39 AM
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Why would the average woman care about the ‘gravy train’ of government assistance ending? Like if y’all are only interested in sleeping with and building families with women who have nothing going for them but popping out kids for a meal ticket say that. The issue is purposeful convolution to insist they matter. I don’t get government assistance, incel Todd not paying taxes on his income from the piggly wiggly doesn’t affect me, if dude wants to go he can go. It’s not a threat. If incels actuall…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 12:58 AM
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Even taking into account of the west. You can afford the most expensive makeup on the market if you don’t know how to use it, so what? It’s like a man dressing well, he may not be blocked from access to nice clothes but if he doesn’t know how to dress himself what does it matter? We all have access to things that improve our ability to attract the opposite sex, it’s about one’s ability to properly use it and the level differs from person to person. Given the higher threshold expected of women wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 11:58 PM
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So this is your beef and not your original post. Why didn’t you just say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 10:59 PM
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So by your definition any amount outearned makes someone a breadwinner? So if I outearn my partner even if their job is more physically demanding, I get to throw that in their face and demand they make me dinner? Y’all don’t wanna be happy. I’m convinced. Like why so this? It’s seems so unnecessary, to the point that I’d say this argument is about something else. Like are you mad about the disparities or your belief that women only marry men who outearn. I gotta put my dr Phil hat in for this on…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 10:52 PM
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So if we both work 40 hours a week but the man makes more, I need to be pulling more of the weight? So let’s say I work retail 40 hours a week and my husband works an office job 40 hours a week and he makes 20k more than I do. I need to be pulling more weight because he makes more money? Imagine saying this instead of advocating for happy and healthy relationships where both parties feel appreciated and a part of a team.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 10:46 PM
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Right so why are men bad mouthing women for caring for the kids the same men are demanding women need to be having because something something society. Seems like we’re damned if we do and damned if we don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 10:43 PM
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The thing is I don’t even care, just say it with your chest and stop victimizing yourselves. I’d respect dudes here a lot more if they just said “I want to be able to fuck women, I want none of the societal obligations or pressures.” A lot of these dudes want to stay in childlike states, no careers no responsibilities, some don’t even wanna leave home, they want to fuck and then go back to their bedrooms to play video games. It’s either this or it’s a if I paint marriage and relationships as the…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 10:40 PM
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Do yall want to be happy or do yall want to be right? Genuinely asking. Y’all worried about measuring income instead of being partners and putting in effort into the household and life built together and enjoying life. I have to believe it’s deeper than this, cause why would someone want to bust out spreadsheets and calculate an exact separation of physical and domestic labor and not just work as a team towards the mutual goal of a happy and healthy family.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 10:21 PM
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And have the vast majority of women see them as "gay" and give them "the ick" thus further removing themselves from sexual viability for women. He was already removed. At this point he wants to feel accepted. His friends/family can provide him that. If he doesn’t want that because he wants romantic touch, just say that, don’t make the reason something something women want masculinity. He’s not desired in the first place, should he as y’all say shrivel up and die or seek companionship and accepta…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 10:19 PM
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I see what you’re saying, kind of a double edged sword. I think the opposite end of the spectrum is also horrible, look at how bad some celebrities end up, the tops pretty toxic too. I think the goal should be the middle. Average. Normie. But how do we get people there?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 09:29 PM
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I disagree with this because they can be friends with one another. It’s pretty defeatist to believe isolation is the only solution. No just stop insisting acceptance into the ‘cool kids table’. Plenty of people aren’t there and they want friends too.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 09:08 PM
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Might want to delete that. Black pill isn’t really allowed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 09:05 PM
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I agree with you. It might not be politically correct but it’s an unspoken truth. Attractive, charismatic, let’s practice, I’m viewing it as an investment. Unattractive awkward, that’s his peak, no thanks, go practice on someone else. A man will view an unattractive obese woman as a viable practice partner. As a woman my SMV is high enough that I don’t have to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 09:05 PM
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To be fair, redpill is a pretty big advocate for self improvement and it’s men speaking to men. But with that being said, you’re right that dating doesn’t typically have a “ can only be done when at your peak” key word typically. Let’s just be real, it’s tends to be for as redpill calls them LVM, simply because he’s lacking anything desirable. No one’s gonna wanna date the unattractive socially awkward dude living at home, working part time at Taco Bell. By improving he’s making himself desirabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 09:00 PM
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The irony of me seeing this post right after the “sex is a need” post is not lost on me. Like can we just agree y’all stand in your own way?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 08:45 PM
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If I’m a housewife housework and childcare is my top duty. If I’m working why am I going to act like you’re doing something extraordinary? Nah we both doing this, get over here and help fold this laundry 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 08:43 PM
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I 100% agree with you. I think that’s what most ( won’t say all extremists exist ) the women here are saying. It’s not the actual sex that’s perceived as need. It’s the social validation, it’s the perceived acceptance, it’s social proof, it’s feeling desired. I feel like an actual discussion on this would be great, unfortunately it often boils down to arguing semantics and buzzwords. As a society we place too much value on sex, and we’ve commodified it so much it’s become a symbol more than anyt…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 08:28 PM
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I can crave and desire food, I can indulge in that desire. Doesn’t mean it’s not what’s keeping me alive. Sex isn’t keeping someone alive it is solely a desire. Food is both.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 07:59 PM
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Why isnt there a bigger push by men to find relationships then? If what they’re really desiring is intimacy and love why do they want to be chads who have a bunch of casual sex? Sex without love is just masterbation with extra steps, yet that’s what appears to be most desired by young men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 07:04 PM
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I wish we could dig into topics like this, but alas this place is filled with sex robots will replace women post. The irony of the two posts being supported by the same men is not lost on me
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 07:02 PM
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I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 07:00 PM
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Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 07:00 PM
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If I’m not attracted to a man I’m not attracted. I’m not going to magically be attracted to someone undesirable because no one else is available. At best I’m sucking it up, and isn’t that the dreaded AF/BB, limiting online dating isn’t like putting a man and a woman on an island alone for years, attractive men are still around.I’m not going to suddenly forget that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 06:59 PM
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Monks are priests to be fair
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 06:55 PM
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Differing levels of desire prove its a want not a need. I can want caffeine, I’ll even get a head ache without my daily Diet Coke because of caffeine withdrawal my strong desire isn’t a need.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 06:53 PM
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This is a first sex is a need so access to someone’s body is a need but marriage is oppression…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 06:45 PM
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Precisely. It’s not about love or even the physical act. It’s the desire for validation and a feeling that it’s a way to gain manhood, for some it’s about the act of ‘taking’ something from a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 06:43 PM
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But if it’s a need who the fuck cares?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 06:33 PM
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Men can hug one another. Granted it’s not sexual. It’s physical touch.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 06:30 PM
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Why would you say this when all you have to do to see men stating it’s their right to have access to someone else’s body is read this very thread thread
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 06:27 PM
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Are you from America? Then you know all three of those things require money. So if sex is a need logically makes sense to pay for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 06:26 PM
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So men gatekeep commitment and women gatekeep sex but women need to checks notes stop doing that while men retain their status quo. And that benefits women how exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 01:23 PM
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No I need citations that you don’t care about women. Again your post says otherwise, your post history shows otherwise. It’s patronizing to claim otherwise when all the evidence shows you seem to be pretty invested on what we do, even though you can just date men and have that be that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 09:48 PM
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My guy you wrote this post… If you don’t care you have a funny way of showing it. I’m gonna need some citations on your end.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 09:00 PM
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I always find the manospheres stance about gay men lives to be so illogical First off gay men tend to be very into their appearance Queer eye for the straight guy anyone? So it’s pretty comical to think an attractive well put together gay man would be attracted to a frumpy gay man. I imagine the manospheres versions of a gay man’s sexual standards to be the same as chad without the limitations straight mens say chad faces. So a sexual free for all. But men are visual creatures so why would they …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 08:58 PM
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We know real confidence comes from results, not words. Exactly! So how does me being supportive of my friends erase that? Like I’m supposed to believe it’s best she feels as low as possible? How is that working out for men? Don’t y’all bring up male suicide rates? I don’t get how you believe the male imperative of support is what’s best given the isolation, low self esteem, low self worth and lack of acceptance and companionship many state they feel. Not sure how much it really helps women given…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 08:48 PM
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Sure I do. Would you want to date the type of broken women who are attracted to abusers? The type of women they are counts too.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 07:43 PM
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Not only that but the lack of smoke folks seem to have for ‘chad’? I should task myself with ensuring women are humble for the betterment of society but the dude fucking everyone and ‘causing women to have inflated egos’ he’s good he’s the GOAT. BFFR!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 07:33 PM
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Gassing each other up won't help. Gassing my friends up helps plenty, it may not help men but that wasn’t my goal to begin with. Men know this zso we don't waste our time or energy on it. So men don’t support eachother because it doesn’t get bitches? This isn’t the flex you think it is. Men would benefit greatly from supporting eachother. In fact I witness my male friends support one another so it’s not something that never happens seems it’s something that’s happening to a specific subset of me…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 07:16 PM
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I mean you could have just quoted yourself Yes. They really do mean it, lol. Men are much more realistic and self aware. Women are not due to the protection modern day feminism has given them. What point did you prove? it just looks like an opinion without anything to back it… Women have the upper hand in the sexual market due to the male sex drive not feminism. Feminism didn’t create manhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 07:14 PM
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But according to y’all the woman has everything and the man has nothing… So… who’s really winning? Please know I don’t agree with these stances. I’m simply pointing out if we’re following this specific male logic, why would we then believe a women who according to y’all holds all the power has all this attention has ease at dating and has many suitors is wrong for thinking she’s not equal to a man who says he’s her equal even though he brushes by women to feel touch. Again this is following y’al…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 05:28 PM
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I read it all. My question to you it twofold first off why should I as an individual take responsibility for social media? I didn’t create it nor do I control it. Second is this not men asking women to put their friends into their place to benefit… men… Let’s just be blunt here, it doesn’t harm me if my unattractive friend has high self esteem due to social media. Why should I then be tasked to ‘humble’ her? Is that not a wild ass request? “Women stop supporting one another, we need y’all to hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 05:00 PM
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Whoa whoa whoa how is this about feminism? Feminism didn’t create the male sex drive. Feminism didn’t create the concept of attraction You’re having a completely different conversation now.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 04:47 PM
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Does that matter? If said woman can get into a relationship with ease ( y’all’s words not mine) and has men from below her to above her chasing her to fuck ( y’all’s words not mine) And a man who decided he’s her male equivalent even though he has none of that. Who’s really overvaluing themselves here? Neither one’s getting what they want so technically at best they both are.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 04:43 PM
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So men want women to put other women in their place.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 04:38 PM
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How is it hypocrisy? Explain that. It can’t be both. You guys have got to pick a lane. If a woman’s ego is inflated due to simps and men pursuing her for sex ( including chad) and her being easily able to find a partner. And a man isn’t able to do any of that. But he believes they’re equal. Who’s over estimating here? The market decides our value. Has the market not spoken?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 04:37 PM
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I’m really not seeing how we aren’t saying the same thing. I think you might view what I’m saying as an accusation rather than what I perceive as these men’s feelings. I don't expect you to flip completely, to suddenly be attracted to a fat burn victim with a good job or w/e, but even just a little would be good. Widening your physical standards lets you be pickier about your other desires. This to me is saying women aren’t doing ‘attraction’ right because it’s excluding people. Right? So again …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 04:33 PM
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Please point out how thats harming women? It sounds like based on your description we’re holding the cards here. And the demand for change is really just to benefit men. Not saying it’s wrong not saying it’s right just saying is that not what’s happening here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 04:18 PM
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that's not support, that's fueling delusion. By telling a friend they’re worthy no matter how the opposite sex values them? I don’t know it seems pretty valuable. I think one of the biggest issues men here face is they perceive their manhood based on how attractive they are to the opposite sex. Why tf would I want a friend to believe that?!? Not sure why women think blowing smoke up each other's asses is something men want. Cause y’all seem pretty bothered by it. Look at all the comparisons and …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 04:13 PM
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It quite literally will prevent their free will. You just said it won’t prevent women from finding men attracted to them. What about the women’s attraction? Again you seem to only care about the well-being of a subset of men and think it makes perfect sense to ban access to forms of dating to make it ‘easier’ for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 03:41 PM
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So if women rate themselves based on how much attention they get how are they wrong? Who’s making that decision? If I decide I’m attractive because I have simps, men trying to sleep with me and men trying to date me. Who’s to say I’m wrong? I’m getting everything in this market based on my perception where as according to you a man is not based in his. Who’s truly off here?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 03:35 PM
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I literally just made this same point. If it’s men who have nothing at their standards. And women have everything at theirs. Who’s really off base here?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 03:31 PM
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But how is a woman being unrealistic if she’s succeeding? You guys say women are overestimating their value because she has simps and men chasing her for sex. Then another day it’s women are with men more attractive than her, I see it all the time. So this said woman has simps, men pursuing her and is able to date men more attractive than her. And the men complaining have nothing… and she’s doing it wrong? I feel like there’s some steps missing here cause I can pinpoint the winner here pretty ea…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 03:29 PM
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. If men are choosing to not be supportive of one another isn’t that y’all’s cross to bear? Like have a mans powwow and ask why women gas up eachother no matter the looks and men shit on eachother with ‘reality’ checks. If your complaint is that women shouldn’t be supported if they aren’t deemed attractive to men well… say it with your chest…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 03:26 PM
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Everything you said agrees with me. I think the only difference is it’s worded in a way that blames women for not “being better” well actually I did say that so never mind. My first point was men are angry the threshold is higher than they previously perceived. And they don’t think that’s fair, they, you, whoever, believes women’s attraction is as you say malleable so really they want their previous beliefs to be what’s actually true, even though they found out it’s not, deep down they still don…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 02:29 PM
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Why do you keep saying ‘no’ when you are quite literally agreeing with both my points the threshold is higher than previously perceived. women’s attraction should work morally not physically and it’s wrong women desire attractive partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 02:18 PM
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I’m speaking on the anger/bitterness.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 02:14 PM
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Why did you say nah? You confirmed my first point - they’re angry the threshold is higher than previously perceived.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 12:17 AM
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In some cases, yes. There are some women I know are not good people, who I feel bad about being attracted to. There a few women I know who are good people, who I feel bad about not being attracted to. Ok so I think it’s safe to say you’re aware physical attraction isn’t really a voluntary act. But I think men generally have a much wider range of women they're attracted to than visa versa, so I'm not sure it's as damaging to social cohesion. It sounds like you agree with my first point that the f…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 12:03 AM
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THE ORIGINAL POSTER JUST DID!!!!! Down to hair texture.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 11:44 PM
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Again, we’re here. Where all the cards are laid out and everyone knows the truth. No one’s oblivious anymore. Women and men care about looks and neither is moral. These are the facts we’re operating on. If a woman lies you can laugh in her face because you know the truth. Those lies can’t stand in your way another day. What is there to still be bitter about? Redpill removed the veil - Women aren’t wonderful, personality isn’t everything and kindness isn’t enough. Women are off the pedestal there…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 11:42 PM
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So you believe men and women’s attraction should be based on morality, that’s fair to feel that way. I guess my question is, based on the fact that physical attraction doesn’t operate in that manner for either sex, are you embarrassed/ashamed/angry your own attraction isn’t based on morals?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 11:20 PM
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So you’re confirming you believe female attraction should operate morally? Do you feel that’s fair? I’m genuinely asking. What do you think about male attraction and how it operates? Should they be held to the same standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 10:51 PM
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I mean I was lied to about Santa Claus, I was able to adapt once I learned the truth. I’d imagine a guys gonna notice both men and women seem to gravitate towards attractive charismatic popular people by freshman year in high school. Plenty of time to let that anger go. If someone told me the diamond necklace I always wanted is 100$ and when I get to the store it’s actually 50,000, I’m going to be mad I was lied to, but let’s be honest, I’m more mad I can’t afford the necklace I wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 10:32 PM
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But why be bitter? It seems the bitterness comes from feeling it shouldn’t be this way. Like a woman’s attraction should operate morally not physically, but then why not be angry male attraction works the way it does? I mean isn’t it safe to say male attraction isn’t 50% personality 50% looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 10:22 PM
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But you’re stating this man in this example is what’s considered successful what makes him successful if it’s not having a bunch of women to sleep with?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 10:10 PM
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Im not saying it’s a win, I’m just saying it’s a win. Me personally, I think the last thing black pillers want is to be told they’re correct. Imagine believing the rapture is coming in your lifetime and you open the door and see it. I highly doubt there’s gonna be celebration.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 10:05 PM
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And the men here are doing what as well? I think once you answer that you’ll have your answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 10:03 PM
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CMV: I’ll play along with the idea that men were lied to about looks mattering to women. Let’s say that’s true and they found the truth. What’s the anger about? I think there’s 2 reasons - Being nice for pussy is an easy ass threshold to meet, anyone can do that. They’re mad it takes more than that. They still feels women shouldn’t desire attractive partners. Like we should be above that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 10:01 PM
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Saying the quiet part loud because folks wanna play obtuse just means people aren’t sparing feelings. I don’t think this is the win you’re thinking it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 09:39 PM
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Kinda comes with the territory wouldnt you say?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 09:36 PM
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Give an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 09:35 PM
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My bad
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 09:34 PM
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I love how 90% of these replies real like fan fiction, buzzwords and all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 09:34 PM
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So then clarification is needed on both ends is it not? These redpill men don’t want love, they want the life of a playboy. Which is fine. Just… say that…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 09:32 PM
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To be fair, according to the story, he got 100% of the sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 09:28 PM
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He’s a ridiculously good looking small time celebrity… in an atmosphere that’s likely pretty shallow…. Ignoring that it reads like fan fiction, why would his personality matter? It’s casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 09:26 PM
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Who talks like that?! That’s my point. I’d call the person asking neurotic and the person answering in exact terms like that odd. It’s just not typical for people to be able to narrow down their preferences to a math equation. That doesn’t mean someone doesn’t have income standards what I’m saying is it’s odd to expect someone to know exact numbers and honestly if they do that’s one picky MFer. Just imagining someone sitting there “I need someone who makes 56, 765.90 a year, who’s 6 feet 2, with…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 07:46 PM
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Why wouldn’t that be the case? How is it a just world fallacy and not a logical conclusion? If men are in relationships, your argument fails. And we know men are in relationships. So clearly logically one has to ask what’s the difference between you and the other guy. Especially if you’re saying you’re a good looking guy who approaches women. Somethings off, because it works for enough men. So why does it work for them and not you. Logically you’re the common denominator
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 07:26 PM
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Due to what I do for a living I have more male friends than women. Few of them are single. Some of them are way out of my league. Are they all attempting to cheat on their wives or pump and dump me? Given the amount of years I’ve been friends with them, the fact that I’ve met many of their wives and girlfriends, they’re either playing the worlds longest long game or are just really fucking bad at pursuing me. I don’t understand. I think the fatal flaw in this CMV is even if your stance is true f…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 07:18 PM
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Has a job is a standard. Stating an exact income is well…a bit neurotic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 02:56 PM
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Does dad bod mean unattractive and obese to some guys? Sometimes I wonder whats so confusing about this concept. Dad Bod is a pudgy guy. Maybe an equivalent is a curvy woman. Curvy doesn’t mean unattractive and obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 07:08 AM
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If every human being was banned, then there can be no accusations of favouritism. Yes there can. The reason for the ban is to benefit below average men, you just said it. So for every person who doesn’t feel they’re being negatively impacted they’re being denied access to something to benefit a minority of people for something as precarious as attraction and free will. As if a woman not being able to online date means she’s automatically going to date a below average man. There’s just so many fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 12:44 AM
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That's the thing: these men aren't displaying jerk behavior. They are annoying in the eyes of the (succesful) people who give the advice. These people love to think they landed their SO because they are absolutely amazing like no other person ever was. That's why they use a petty throw away response to someone that is clearly hurting - the alternative would be they look in the mirror and say: "oh yeah, dating was a sh*tshow". Look at what you just typed - even though the first thing you said was…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 12:35 AM
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Yeah I agree. It’s hard to understand the end goal of these concerns. I don’t know what else there is to do beyond leaving. If your partner treats you bad, or your needs aren’t met, it’s probably not a good idea to stay.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 03:35 AM
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Why would I pout and move on? I’d break up we aren’t compatible. Sexual compatibility is pretty high up there in what would make someone perfect in every way. This was asked yesterday it was asked last week it will continue to be asked I’ll repeat what I said yesterday: Men you have to find something comparable that evokes the same emotional reaction sexual competition does in men. This compare contrast game will fall flat until y’all do.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 02:18 AM
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I laughed way too hard at this response.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 11:52 PM
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I haven’t said it But I’m sure “ looks aren’t everything” has been said a lot especially to unattractive people looking for support.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 11:03 PM
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I’m not! Which is the point! As stated, women are giving advice with the thought process of the end goal being a LTR, it’s the baseline assumption. If that’s not the man’s goal (which was what the conversation was about ) how are women supposed to know? We actually are assuming pure intentions, which is apparently why our advise sucks again are you familiar with redpill? Again I don’t know why you’re insisting that’s not the end goal of some men. Like everyone’s wholesome, and sex is a dirty dir…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 09:38 PM
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You quite literally claimed women made a concerted effort to ensure men failed at dating. If that’s not blame I don’t know what is.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 07:31 PM
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But sometimes, it is your looks stopping you from getting a date. So not only would the statement "looks don't matter" be just plainly false. Furthermore, it is often said people need to "work on themselves" to become more interesting or even become a 'good person'. But in this instance as I pointed out, the typical response is “ it’s not your looks that’s hurting you” not “looks don’t matter” it’s convoluting the two. It’s a petty throw away response often given online to dudes who are again di…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 07:27 PM
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Your response is fucking chefs kiss.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 06:59 PM
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Show me. Genuine request as I have a feeling details are missing. Why wouldn’t it be obvious that people want to be attracted to their partners? It’s lazy gaslighting. It’s a harsh reality that’s easier to blame on a conspiracy than obvious fact. And the kicker is at the end of the day, it doesn’t actually matter. Really, think about it - let’s say I’m a unattractive man and I want to date a certain woman. It doesn’t matter what anyone else says, she’s either going to date me or she’s not.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 06:58 PM
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This is some blame shifting of epic proportions. Why did this conspiracy/concerted effort only affect certain men? Isn’t that alone a huge plot hole? Was the man that’s asking these women already unsuccessful? Isn’t that a copout to then turn around and blame their failure of said conspiracy? If he was failing before and failing after, isn’t it fair to say the common denominator is him?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 06:43 PM
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But isn’t that projection? No one’s actually stating “if looks don’t matter and you cannot get into a relationship you are not only ugly but also mean or bad or immoral.” I’m pretty sure the common statement I’ve seen is: it’s not your looks stopping you from getting a date. Right? Like I’ve seen that statement, that’s the common response. It’s a bit of a stretch to believe a statement that means “you’re giving the impression that you’re a jerk and that’s what’s hurting you not your looks” also …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 05:23 PM
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Why wouldn’t it be?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 04:22 PM
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Thank you! Made me look into it because I wasn’t aware of the phenomenon of hybristphyllia Which apparently is a sexual perversion/deviation. Super interesting. I was wrong. There’s a subset of women with a sexual perversion of being attracted to dating criminals. Gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 04:14 PM
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I’m gonna need some documentation on that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 04:02 PM
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To be happy in whatever relationship they find themselves in, whether that's casual, boyfriend/girlfriend, or married. Dude why are you goal post moving? The statement was short men don’t successfully date. Look up it’s right there. The response was I know plenty of married short men. The response was yeah but marriage isn’t indicative of success. THEN WHAT IS?!?! Would I be wrong to assume it’s fucking? I don’t think I would. Im not saying that’s a bad thing cause lord knows you take offense to…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 03:54 PM
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I don’t have any. Dating is bad enough the casual sex market is the fucking Wild Wild West and I’m personally not a part of it so I don’t know what works. To begin it is saturated with dick, highly competitive and one person can spread themselves out to multiple people. Me personally, if I were to have casual sex, simply given the leverage I’d have, I’d go for a super hot dude, just being honest, personalities not gonna matter, jobs not gonna matter, personal life nothing. It’s going to be looks…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 03:41 PM
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Wouldn't matter if there was a difference (and there is, to many of us), because it's just assumed and used as a weapon against us that we're just looking for sex even if we're not. That may be the case in other instances but my response wasn’t an accusation, it was an observation. There’s nothing wrong with men asking for advise on how to get casual sex. I was pointing out that the issue is women aren’t going to automatically know that’s what’s being asked. There are two instances in this very …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 03:28 PM
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I didn't say that. You didn’t? it sure seemed heavily implied. Care to clarify?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 07:47 AM
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Fab letters arent the same as romantic letters and marriage proposals. Wasn’t that the point you were trying to make? That women’s attraction to men is perverse and lacking in morality?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 12:47 AM
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But isn’t that their fault for being just as vague? For women there’s a difference between asking How can I find a date? And How can I be sexually appealing to women? I’m starting to think there really isn’t any difference to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 12:45 AM
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Then what’s the goal?! The complaint was short guys don’t successfully date. Is that some man code for short men can’t pump and dump like chad? Genuine question because otherwise marriage would be the end goal of successfully dating. See this is actually why womens advice seems to fall Flat with so many here. They don’t want advice on how to be in healthy happy relationships they think that’s a losing option They wanna know how to fuck women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 12:40 AM
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Don’t forget they also want easy cheat codes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 12:32 AM
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Cause she’s not hot. Do you think unattractive serial killers are drowning in groupies?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 12:26 AM
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I don’t know how else to present your response as proving my point so I’ll just leave it here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 12:19 AM
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Two x is as representative of women as this sub is representative of men. Some may have to sit with that sentence for a second.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 09:40 PM
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Finding what one’s threshold is ( ie dating pool) is half the battle. For these guys the other, honestly, is accepting it. I acknowledged that here. I repeat, just because some unattractive people don’t wanna date other unattractive doesn’t mean they’re blocked out of dating. There are unattractive people open to dating other unattractive people out there. Like I said finding one’s pool is half the battle the other is accepting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 09:36 PM
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It’s not brutal honesty it’s attaching morality to lack of sexual success. Spark is just attachment trauma! I felt a spark/chemistry/attraction/drawn to my partner and he’s incredibly kind and good to me. He doesn’t trigger me, I’m not in an emotionally abusive relationship. What that actual brutal honesty is is that some men who struggle to attract women convince themselves there’s something wrong or insidious to womens attraction and that’s why they’re unsuccessful, completely ignoring all the…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 07:38 PM
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I see what you’re saying but at the same time I don’t think that would evoke a similar emotion. At best I’d be annoyed, not necessarily jealous or insecure. I still think the best comparison would be children but even then I’m not quite sure what scenario would evoke a similar emotion. Maybe a man being reckless and impregnated an ex rather quickly and they had a child. But then with you he’s very careful with condoms.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 06:43 PM
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Like I said a man who is sexually unsuccessful or does not experience ‘abundance’ in dating, socially awkward or shy is not going to be a fan of pursuing because it can be too challenging. He may feel he can’t naturally compete. That’s not the natural baseline though. A man just responded to me and said: It's more a negotiating tactic. Women want promises, commitment, a man that takes responsibility for the relationship. They won't get any of that if they offer themselves for free. Last sentence…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 06:13 PM
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This is only true for a man batting out of his league. Ugly women exist, they just do, plenty of ugly women want to be in loving relationships. Their dating pool is ugly men. There’s no way around this. I’m not gonna go to the trailer park and see a bunch of unattractive women with total stunners. I get the blackpill stance but it’s simply not reality. Young unattractive men want to date attractive and average women, if they are unable to it’s not because they’re blocked out of dating it’s becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 04:27 PM
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The comparison isn’t meant to be an exactly measured analogue, it’s meant to demonstrate that beneficial treatment is preferable over it’s absence, and that new disclosures can affect the context of a current relationship, even if you personally do not care whether or not your date is even attracted to you. Believe it or not I agree with you. It’s not a concept that’s foreign to me because again it’s rooted in insecurity. Insecurity is a natural human emotion most of us feel or have felt at some…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 04:08 PM
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How about “he’s really great, but he’s never on time, then you hear that after he got back from Iraq he was punctual af for his ladies until he moved to your town and now he’s given that shit up?” I would say that scenarios works better than the picnic one but it’s still giving a linear concept and I think it’s just not resonating. The idea that a person needs to act the same in all relationships does not resonate with people, even if the concept of jealousy and insecurity does. That’s the fatal…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 01:19 PM
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Haha, we love to see it. This whole idea of “women don’t want to be treated right” is so funny to me, it’s like well the emotionally broken ones might not but the normal well adjusted folks tend to not want to be treated like trash by the people we care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 01:03 PM
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It’s both.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 12:55 PM
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Stop trying to push this onto the guy as if the guy is making accusations that he/himself is creepy. He is not calling himself creepy, he is being called creepy... Huh no one ever said that. No one controls how others perceive them. If a man is being perceived as creepy, that’s how he’s being perceived. End of. A man being described as being creepy is by definition a man making a woman feel uncomfortable uneasy and fearful. Well this is a hot take, I'm glad it means I don't have to read anymore.…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 12:50 PM
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”x to doubt" I mean it’s not going to be a universal thing, I’d say most the men here absolutely despise pursuing. Doesn’t mean there’s not a natural drive for men to ‘hunt’ Good grief I mean I’m not even redpill and I know that. What makes you think other women react the same way to male simping? I said earlier, “maybe it’s a gen Z thing” but even then, I’ve seen enough mutually attracted healthy couples to know both men and women love that shit. You wanna get me flowers just because, she wants…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 12:46 PM
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It can be that but mostly it’s the idea is that men like to pursue, so being too available is unappealing. To be fair the same advise is given to men. And at the end of the day it’s not true for either because when there’s a mutual even attraction simping is sexy. I will die in this hill.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 06:02 AM
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Do you think all that advice to women about not seeming too eager, playing hard to get and not smothering men is because men respond positively to women they aren’t feeling?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 04:45 AM
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I make sure I date lazy men. That way I know they won’t womanize.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 04:40 AM
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Not necessarily. I mean it’s possible but kind of morbid to choose a death to be what cause you two to begin to speak, it’s probably safe to assume it was genuine condolences until she’s shows you otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 04:32 AM
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It’s not about it’s places or origin it’s the power to improve someone’s looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 03:34 AM
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I agree. I just responded the same. These AF/BB arguments tend to fail because they choose the wrong things to compare not that women are incapable of feeling envious of the past. I’d think a planned picnic was sweet and romantic so I wouldn’t feel bad but I’m still capable of feeling insecure about a partners past.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 03:28 AM
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I don’t know how I’d know what he did in past relationships, I guess we were acquaintances before? But if he told me we’re going on a planned picnic I’d think that was the sweetest most thoughtful thing ever and I’d absolutely go. I realize this is an AF/BB argument we get them about once or twice a month, but guys here seem to have a hard time making a comparison that’s actually equal. There are things that can make a partner feel insecure. I don’t know if a picnic would do it though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 03:22 AM
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That must be a Gen Z, lol. I love mutual simping, that shit is the BEST. No but seriously it’s a difference is desire. If I like someone yes simping is a positive. If I’m lukewarm or am not interested in someone it will be seen as a negative. The same goes for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 02:41 AM
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However, what was said was not "man interprets the way his presence affects a certain women", it was a man being accused of being creepy. False. The full sentence is: if a man interprets the way his presence affects a certain woman as an accusation of rape he’s victimizing himself. You can’t breakdown the sentence by taking parts out and redefining it. A man being described as being creepy is by definition a man making a woman feel uncomfortable uneasy and fearful. It is only an accusation if it…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 02:16 AM
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There’s a reason finances is the main reason couple separate. Compatibility and commonality matter. Looks and sex drives fade. A long term relationships gonna have a hard time surviving without some level of both attraction and compatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 11:12 PM
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It is contradictory. Newsflash, all the innocuous conversation and platonic group dynamics will have to give way at some point to the dude MAKING A MOVE. Only if you look at socializing with women as a means to an end! I literally just said you can meet people to meet people. Again red pill ,that’s men, speak on the importance of social proof often the men asking for advice have no social circle that includes women some have none what’s so ever, they are not comfortable around women, some act do…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 10:59 PM
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I know I responded to the other poster
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 10:50 PM
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My dude do you realize TikTok and social media makeup is not what the average woman is even capable of doing right?! The women who can work magic with makeup tend to either already be up there in looks and/or are few and far between and even then it’s mostly on camera, if you see them in person it’s very obvious they’re caked in makeup. Why do you think the “natural look” is so popular? For most of us contouring to completely alter our face is way too high of a learning curve to master, trust me…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 10:49 PM
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Oh ok I think I see what you’re saying. I don’t completely disagree, but I think you’re still contradicting yourself. You can’t say well of course people do things for themselves and not for others and then turn around and say but also it’s all rooted in attracting the opposite sex. Have ya seen a Karen haircut? Man beards stop being attractive once a man starts letting it grow to his knee caps, men still do it, in fact it’s a sense of pride for many, has nothing to do with attracting women. Not…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 10:35 PM
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You can meet people to meet them. Cold approaching for the sole intent of hooking up is a strong means of access to casual sex for fuck boys. You think he’s joining a hiking club to make actual connections with people? That’s the problem people come on here wanting advice to get sex then they get mad women aren’t telling them how to be the type of men they don’t like. Want casual sex? get advice from men. Want a relationship? Advice to expand one social circle is good advice. My god red pill spe…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 09:22 PM
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The opposite sex or in general? I wear make up for multiple reasons and it changes for day to day. One day I may be wearing make up to make myself presentable, the next to feel comfortable around other attractive women, the next to look nice for my partner. This just seems like a way to hear the words: women do abc for men. Plenty of women wear make up for men plenty don’t. There’s no one size fits all reason. Plenty of men grow nice beards even though their wives or girlfriends don’t like them.…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 09:10 PM
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To make yourself presentable and attractive are key distinctions here, and you acknowledge this earlier. Did I? Are you sure you were conserving with another poster? If a woman’s hair is groomed, she wears nice clothes, and is in shape, no one would say she is not presentable. If a man’s hair is groomed, he wears nice clothes and is in shape no one would say he’s not presentable either… But wearing makeup in its origin is meant to make someone more attractive, not to just maintain baseline prese…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 09:05 PM
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Why are you disagreeing that a nice beard can change a man’s overall appearance?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 09:02 PM
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I disagree. You get a haircut, wear nice clothes, work out to be presentable, attractive even. I do my hair, wear nice clothes, work out and wear makeup for the same reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 08:04 PM
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Creepy means causing an unpleasant feeling of fear or unease. I can’t control if someone makes me feel that way, the word is being used correctly. If a man interprets the way his presence affects a certain women as an accusation of rape he’s victimizing himself and attempting to place the blame of dangerous men on women because he is eliciting an unpleasant feeling. I’m not saying it’s his fault, but it’s not hers either. The word is being used correctly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 07:52 PM
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Where’s the confusion? If I’m joining a hiking club I’m going there to hike and make friends I’m not going there to be targeted by a guy who thinks he found a cheat code. Just because one guy is looking to find a life partner doesn’t mean the next isn’t looking for a quick hookup. For a group of men who seem to not be a fan of fuck boys y’all sure do advocate for them to have free will to be on their bullshit. This expectation for women to be open to being approached at all times with a smile on…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 07:25 PM
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I disagree. I wouldn’t have met my current partner without dating apps there’s no way we would have crossed paths. It’s kinda selfish to want to remove peoples ability to find compatible partners. Bigger dating pools equals bigger opportunity to find a compatible partner. A lot of people men and women use dating apps to waste time, to hook up, to pass time, to c*pe. They aren’t going to be actual options for anyone. Every option in an ice cream shop is a potential snack. I could have 40 guys in …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 07:03 PM
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By arbitrarily deciding, based on feeling and not accounting for actual facts that dating needs to be remedial to benefit certain men for the greater good of society you are indeed dictating what demographics are allowed to date. The point of banning social media is to force less options right? Who’s making the choice that it’s best a woman’s options are limited and controlled and not someone else’s? Like I said why can’t ‘low status’ men be hearded over to 35+ single moms? That way these kids g…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 03:47 PM
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Then why desire it?!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 02:42 PM
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That may very well be true. I may be ableist for not dating men with disabilities. Those words don’t control personal autonomy much less attraction. Awareness and accountability can stop someone from bullying it can’t force attraction .
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 02:34 PM
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To be fair… this isn’t a dating advice sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 01:46 PM
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Yeah pretty much this. I think there’s a woman here who states she’s autistic, I very rarely if ever agree with her takes. I don’t agree with most extremists on Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 01:40 PM
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You do realize there’s a difference between shaming someone and choosing not to date them right? If I’m not interested in dating an unattractive man I’m not denigrating him, I’m choosing to not want to date him because I’m not attracted to him. Fat acceptance doesn’t mean, you must be attracted to this person, it means don’t be an asshole to random people who are just living their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 01:34 PM
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You’re essentially making women responsible for violent men. While simultaneously demanding men not be made responsible for violent men. Also… are we doing the insult Olympics now?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 01:25 PM
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Not only am I going to say yes but I’m going to point out unattractive women approaching men tend to experience some no so nice things said about them after the fact.I’ve witnessed it first hand. Creepy would have been much kinder than what was actually said. Look at the language used here for women deemed undesirable. Post wall Land whales What number is it? 304? Mean words aren’t a male exclusive thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 12:52 PM
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So looks matter less to women means women don’t care about attraction? I find that to be insulting to a neurotypical man’s intelligence, how he could make it out of high school without seeing how people paired off. I’m pretty sure he didn’t see the frumpy quiet guy with the prom Queen. So to me, it’s a weak copout or an expression of frustration of autists tendency to have trouble with nuance, but not saying that because then the response is easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 12:18 PM
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Why does the overweight guy with bad skin need to be told these things are a hinderance? Does he not know how attraction works? Isn’t that kind of a moral copout?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 08:32 AM
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To be fair most people I know discuss getting married before the guy proposes. Surprise proposals are just not as common, it’s much more of a mutual discussion with the man still deciding when he’s ready to take that next step. At the end of the day men are the gatekeepers of commitment and choosing when to marry is powerful. I think it’s viewed as way for women to express desire by men who well, have low self esteem. I don’t mean that in an insulting way. Go to the main dating subs, every now a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 08:22 AM
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Do you really not see the slippery slope you’re presenting? Who gets to decide where the lines drawn? Why not just ban all media? Should women wear burkas? Or are we just controlling what women see? That doesn’t seem very fair, should below average men experience bans too? Let’s have them only be able to date and marry 35+ single moms, these kids need step daddies! We’re taking care of the needs of everyone. Seems most beneficial.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 07:56 AM
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Agreed. It doesn’t make it right. Society seems to have created an unspoken rule that it’s ok to dismiss one’s morals if it means we can hurt someone we don’t like. I don’t really agree with that. If I think it’s wrong to body shame, it’s wrong, the target doesn’t change that. If I think sexism is wrong it’s wrong the target doesn’t change that. Etc. etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 07:38 AM
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You don't have to be able to do anything about it to care. If that’s the case how do our levels of caring differ? Sometimes allowing someone to vent about their struggles without attacking them (as long as they're not attacking others) is the best that can be done. In a debate forum? That seems incredibly counter productive. That’s like going on two x and being a listening ear. Are you doing that? Many people fail the basic decency test on this subject. Even if they don't care about the issue th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 07:29 AM
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The two aren’t comparable one is an object the other is a living breathing person Would you want to be told. “Hey you have to be friends with a racist person because they’re lonely” Or “Hey you have to date this elderly single mother because she’s lonely” I’m sure you appreciate the ability to say. “ no, I don’t want to” Why would you want to take away someone else’s ability to say “no I don’t want to, I’m in control of me” I’m not in control of who buys a piece of clothing. As for the quoted. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 07:23 AM
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If a business owner selling luxury goods doesn't want to serve a certain ethnic group, they aren't being denied food and shelter, but it's still marginalizing them. You’re right they are being discriminated against. Your only grounds for claiming that incels aren't marginalized is by outright denying that there is a social stigma against lonely, socially awkward, neurodivergent young men I don’t deny there’s a stigma against neurodivergent men. I’m well aware of it, but that stigma doesn’t give …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 07:09 AM
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Not if nobody will let them, or if others have damaged them so comprehensively that they are no longer even able to seek those things, no. You’re proving my point. You guys are convoluting mental health with human rights. They have, at that point, been deprived of the ability to make connection, which is a fundamental psychological human need. How is someone being deprived of making connections if no one’s actually standing in the way? No one’s denying these men the ability to make friends. Ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 06:51 AM
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What they’re mocking him for is unfortunately an example of low hanging fruit. It’s true, when mocking, people are going to go for what’s triggering and hurtful despite their own personal feelings about it and it’s wrong but it’s not something exclusive to women or men, people as a whole are guilty of this. It’s the same as a man man fun of another man and saying he’s got a little dick. It’s not that that man loves big dick, it’s that it’s known to be a hurtful comment. It’s neither here nor the…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 08:02 PM
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Again I ask, what are incels being blocked from accessing? I’ll give you an example of what I mean: I don’t know if you’re familiar with redlining and the history of African Americans being blocked from buying homes back then. This is an example of a marginalized group being blocked from access to something. What are incels being blocked from? Are incels not allowed to date? Are they not allowed to marry? Are they not allowed to make friends? Are they not allowed to socialize? If I don’t have a …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 07:17 PM
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Your response just opens the bigger question of what are they being blocked from accessing?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 06:35 PM
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yeah I do care about women of low medium high or whatever other value. I want people to be as happy as they can be. And if they aren’t what are you doing about it? Genuine question. I don’t wish anyone ill will. What’s the difference between you and I in terms of care for our fellow man? I want people to be happy too, I just don’t think it’s individually up to me to ensure society doesn’t have sad people. I mean good grief, sadness is a human emotion, I’ve felt it plenty of times, I’ve felt alon…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 06:26 PM
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”Healthcare, education, and housing is a human right!!! But love, affection, physical touch? No one owes you that, you weird incel!!" You’re convoluting institutions with free will. Ensuring a society has access to the ability to read and do basic math is very different than ensuring all men have access to romantic love. There is no way to make another person have romantic feelings for another. There is no government intervention that could ever control people’s hearts. Honestly, I think being b…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 05:01 PM
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in terms of atttraction, looks actually matters more than personality, but they deny it completely thats the issue, they actually deny , they also deny the type of look women are more likely be attracted too I quite literally just said looks matter!!!! Good grief can you recognize it’s not good enough nor was it ever. Can we just be real here it’s not about the honesty it’s about the opportunity to guilt and badger. being short in itself doesnt get you into relationship , its mostly other factor…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 04:29 PM
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I mean is that not just basic human decency to care about people? You didn’t answer my question. Do you care about random women low value or otherwise? What do you do to ensure they’re happy? You don’t have to take care of them, but there’s absolutely 0 difference between someone you know and someone you don’t. There is a million differences between someone I know and someone I don’t. Caring about strangers in itself is an abstract concept. I still a guilting tactic that honestly seems to only b…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 04:10 PM
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Kind of proves you guys don’t want to actually hear women state their preferences. Just want to be allowed to be mad at them and place the onus on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 03:48 PM
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Genuine question. Do you care about random women Low value or otherwise? It’s such an odd unspoken expectation in these parts that women are somehow responsible for these men. We aren’t. I don’t care about low value or high value men I don’t know. I’m not responsible for their well-being because I have a vagina.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 03:46 PM
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Women don't say "looks aren't everything" they say "personality is more important than looks." Why does that mean looks don’t matter though? Just because I place a lot of importance of personality doesn’t mean I’m willing to date an ugly guy. You’re proving their point, it’s taking extremes instead of accepting nuance. Personality does matter so do looks the two aren’t mutually exclusive, if one lacks one the other can make up for it but only to an extent with looks having the upper hand because…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 12:44 AM
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Continued 2: If you tell me "it's OK to steal, who's going to care, look, it's a chocolate bar, it costs 70 cents, Walmart isn't going to miss that" and I do it anyway, no matter how petty it is, I'm still at risk of being collared by the security guard or potentially spoken to by the police, because I broke the rules. This is a very rigid view of rule following, you’re also comparing an illegal act to a non illegal act. It isn’t illegal to talk to strangers. It’s illegal to steal and while taki…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 10:14 PM
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Continued: What do we say and do when women say they feel afraid of men walking in the same streets as them at night? As a society, what is our response? It's "men, women feel terrified of you, because you might be a rapist or a killer, please, keep your distance, cross the street away from them, ideally pick another route". You’re telling me sane women and society expects men to cross the street when a woman’s in their presence? I just really feel that’s an extreme interpretation. If a conversa…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 10:13 PM
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If it produces no results, clearly it's an invalid option, it's doing nothing, it's going nowhere, even the most minimal effort would be wasted if it doesn't go anywhere. I'm not saying it's immediately pointless because I'm not buried under a mob of women right out of the gate, but I can't do anything with no responses in months. Are you any worse off than before? If not then why is it not one option out of multiple others? Also, there’s a huge disconnect that makes me question how much you act…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 10:00 PM
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But it doesn't help when people say things like "OK, so you're disabled/short/ugly/whatever, stay in your lane", and when you explicitly try to do that as someone with a defined, diagnosed disorder... on a service designed explicitly for people with that disorder to connect, you get... nothing. Kind of invalidates is it as an option. Why? Why do you feel it’s an invalid option? People of all walks of life struggle with dating. Give yourself grace and time. Honestly maybe do some crawling before …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 07:03 AM
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It leaves out the entire conversation why they feel that way, and gives antagonists an opportunity to mischaracterize/marginalize the issue. We know why they feel that way, they’ve created a boogie man that allows them to give up before even trying. At the end of the day if all men receive the same “indoctrination” what stops one from fearing women? If that’s the reason? Come on it doesn’t make logical sense. Where does chad fit in all this? So looks and charisma and personality and neurodiverge…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 11:23 PM
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I agree with you believe it or not. I know you’re not trying to make people feel bad. I think it’s just an unfortunate by product of inclusion when it comes to attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 10:28 PM
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I’m pretty sure I read you state single mothers were non starters for you to consider dating. The reasons you gave were legitimate and understandable. Desirability as I replied to the other poster is a huge component of dating and so much goes into what makes someone desirable and their level of desirability, it’s kinda like a bartering system. Where every individuals characteristics, looks, status, personality etc goes into the equation, all that calculates one’s league. You take that and then …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 09:26 PM
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I don’t think you could have put more words into my mouth if you tried. I’m not going to answer for any of that because it’s not my mindset. If you or anyone is afraid to speak to women because of impressions unhinged women gave online, so be it, as I said own it. Acknowledge it. I said this the other day when debating with you, I refuse to give people who don’t even know my name power over my life and happiness. So some twox women hate men. So what! Debate them, then go live your life. If their…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 06:34 PM
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I don’t know who Chris Chan is but I can absolutely confirm that desirability is incredibly complex. They’ll cure cancer before they create a formula to explain it because there’s so many different things that add or take away from the equation and personal tastes change every formula. I’ll take myself for example. I care more about a man’s facial attractiveness than his height or weight, but being significantly overweight will take them out of consideration, being significantly shorter than me …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 05:57 PM
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Then they should clarify and stop catastrophizing. There’s nothing to wrong with simply stating “I don’t approach women because I’m afraid to.” No need to add excuses. If they fear approaching because of a perceived risk then so be it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 05:42 PM
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Yeah pretty much this. Acceptance is a result of awareness. Attraction is another story. Attraction via guilt or a sense of obligation should never ever be the goal and its a slippery slope.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 05:28 PM
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You know what else contributes to it? Procreating with someone with neurodivergence. Are you sure this is the argument you want to make?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 05:15 PM
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I think this is a brutal truth many of the neurodivergent gentlemen’s here struggle with. How often do men here state average women don’t date average men not recognizing so much more goes into what league we are placed in. Whats hindering them and lowering where they are is often not politically correct to point out, but attraction is not even a little bit politically correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 05:13 PM
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I know recently I’ve seen a big push for awareness of disabled people not being seen as sexual beings and I agree with them 100% All adults should be comfortable expressing themselves as sexual beings no matter their physical or mental limitations. I will die on this hill. With that being said, attraction is attraction and no one should be made to feel bad if they do not want to be romantically involved with someone with disabilities. I remember there was a video of a woman who was with a man wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 05:01 PM
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It doesn’t, it’s just makes it harder unfortunately. Making people feel bad for not wanting to be romantically involved with anyone disability or not is an incredibly slippery slope though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 04:37 PM
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I actually don’t know because I can’t read the whole article so I don’t know the details but if gentlemen here are so adamant in correcting women for falsely stating men say they fear arrest, it seems they’d have at least that same level of smoke for men saying yep we do fear arrest. Either y’all fear it or y’all don’t. It’s playing both sides based on what argument needs to be made.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 02:39 PM
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Wait wait wait wait so the metoo movement was actually a conspiracy to stop lower class men from dating?!?!? Because it’s a forbidden zone? Did they get the message? You do know statistically the group who remains the highest for birth rates is lower class right? Do you really think conservative Karen from the trailer park who’s tv can’t even turn from Fox News got fooled by the metoo conspiracy? How is online dating connected to feminism? Aren’t most these companies created by men?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 02:06 PM
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People but fwiw you aren’t even going after the person. I think it’s safe to say we both know why.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 01:17 PM
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I’d say jeans and a nice fitting T-shirt will do just fine with average women who tend to not be all that fashion forward themselves. If a man is after a fashionable women unfortunately he’s stuck playing the part.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 06:12 AM
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If you make approaching women in public an impossibility because middle class women don't want to be approached by poor men, you also prevent poor men to approach poor women in public. How?! What kind of trickle down effect makes it to where people of the same social class are unable to interact? Why would rich women want to stop poor men from not only approaching them but poor women as well? Wouldn’t that work against them? You're unable to see the result from the point of view of the man, only…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 06:02 AM
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Dude I don’t care if it’s true or not, that’s not the point, you said no one says it, I’m showing you that they do. You’re not debating in good faith if you keep moving the goal post. I don’t get the point of you saying no one ever says that, then ok they said it but it’s true, then ok well are they saying this exact phrase? Nothing will ever be enough because you aren’t actually debating, your minds made up, which is fine but I’m not going to keep engaging.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 05:19 AM
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Given the way this is set up I’d say option 5 is the wisest choice
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 04:11 AM
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When public space related, it's basically middle class and upper class women annoyed by the fact that lower class men dared to think they were on their level. I don’t see the issue. If some stuck up women don’t want to be approached is it really a loss. Seems like everyone wins, I mean are these guys actually interested anyway? I wouldn’t be. Sounds like trash taking itself out. It's a movement to silence the lower class men (described as the oppressor in order to hide the fact that these women …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 04:04 AM
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Of course men in general don’t say this. It’s very unique to a small subset of men. That subset of men congregate here. It’s been pointed out. You’re coming after the me for seeing it instead of the people saying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 03:51 AM
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Wait are you saying the me too movement and hypergamy exposed womens dislike of lower economic, lower status and lower looks men from asking them out? I’m not saying this is true at all, my question is if it were true why would that be some huge issue? Let’s say a rich woman isn’t interested in dating poor men. At the end of the day, right or wrong, that’s her right, if some big global conspiracy stopped men beneath her status from asking her out… so what… it’s not like she would magically want …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 02:26 AM
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I didn’t say it they did, you said no one states it in pointing out they not only say it they hang onto it like gold.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 01:39 AM
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Why are you not stopping posters who state these fantastical things? Here’s your chance correct him The best part of these post is it’ll shut people up for a while because they know they’ll be used as evidence but give it a few weeks it’ll be back to, “ how can I approach? feminists made it so where I’ll get arrested if I look at her wrong!”
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 01:35 AM
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You said men don’t say this I proved they do. How am I proving your point? Because I only gave one example? You said it didn’t happen, I proved it did.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 01:27 AM
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Charisma doesn’t equal criminal or asshole, confidence has nothing to do with negging, you’re convoluting two completely different concepts. If all a man had to do no matter his looks, personality, status etc is be a bad person, let’s ring the bell, tell incels to go do this and enjoy swimming in pussy. An attractive man being unsuccessful can be any number of things, least of all is his kindness. Again charisma doesn’t mean asshole. Confidence doesn’t equal cruelty. It makes zero sense to even …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 01:24 AM
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Yea they do
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 01:10 AM
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Yes, I pull more when I'm a dick. Like an evolved form of negging. I pull less when I'm being nice and plain, like with 'how was your day' etc type of conversations. That’s great you should really try to spread the message to men here struggling to date. Or keep it to yourself and enjoy the cheat code. Definitely, I have seen tall guys, guys who are 6'4, white, conventionally attractive, who are either virgins or don't get much women, because they are too kind, nice, supportive, and accomodating…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 12:57 AM
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Scroll through the whole post there’s tons but I linked one specifically ETA - here’s another one Not sure why I didn’t think to look at this post
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 12:31 AM
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Yes by posting anonymous comments. So because it’s anonymous that’s not their true feelings? That’s like saying a persons not racist unless they burn crosses on someone’s lawn. I don’t have to be actively violent to be a hatefilled person, these men’s cowardess doesn’t absolve them of their words or mindset. Very hard since most do not act hateful in real life. I repeat their cowardess doesn’t absolve them, If they have no issues thinking and typing so hatefully it seems pretty strange they be u…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 10:43 PM
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And you are guessing that off an anonymous forum? Have you ever been on an incel forum? They quite literally openly have hatred for women. Act or write anonymous comments? How hard would it be to act hateful if that’s their true feelings anyhow? It wouldn’t be an act it would just be them being themselves and since that’s all it takes, it should be quite easy. Actual rapists have more than average sexual partners lol. There is a difference between actually doing something and just writing anonym…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 06:54 PM
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A majority? You think a majority of men think this? Can you back up your claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 06:41 PM
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Not all men are willing to risk jail time to become attractive to women. You don’t have to risk jail time. I just looked it up, only about 8% of adults are felons, so logically it seems if the ‘majority’ of women are with ‘bad boys’ they’re with men who are run of the mill dicks. So the solution is simple - be a dick. Looks don’t matter, personality doesn’t matter, shared goals, career, age, none of that matters according to the original post all that matters is being an asshole. Also, many of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 06:39 PM
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Proven where?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 05:32 PM
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If all it takes for even unattractive or as you put it homely men to attract women is be a piece of shit, why don’t men just… do that? Do you really think if it was that easy ugly men wouldn’t just do that? Do you really think in all of our existence the reason ugly men aren’t with knockouts is because they haven’t figured out the secret of being a dick?!? Are you telling me there’s handsome courteous, kind, well put together men who are shunned to inceldom because they aren’t assholes? If the o…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 05:29 PM
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Oh I see. Apologies!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 05:23 PM
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Why do they have to be attractive? Why are the only people dudes here seem to even want to approach attractive women?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 04:45 PM
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I agree that cold approaching is probably the worst way to hit on women, with the biggest threshold to pass. But it kinda sounds like you’re painting this as an all or nothing to justify the self induced isolation so many here choose. The only way grown adults make friends is talking to strangers. Whether that’s striking up a conversation in the produce isle, while waiting for an oil change or with coworkers at your job. People with social circles rarely cold approach flying solo. They’re will t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 04:41 PM
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How is this an equivalent?!? Statistically going into a dangerous neighborhood at night alone is a bad idea. Statistically saying hello in passing to a coworker isn’t going to land one in prison.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 03:35 PM
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I mean you can look at my post history if you don’t believe me. I’ll summarize the convo: Me: That’s true for everyone. Find a relationship is finding someone single, who I get along with, who I’m compatible with, who has similar life goals, who is attracted to me, who I’m attracted to. Why would an average woman not be capable of getting into a relationship with an average man and vice versa? Average people date, ugly people date attractive people date, people date! Look I’m more than happy to …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 03:09 AM
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First
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 01:01 AM
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Exactly so what’s the excuses coming from? That’s exactly my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 12:44 AM
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I love how the comments are everyone from all pills saying to the OPer, “dude what are you talking about?” Im glad we could come together.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 11:07 PM
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I don’t, I’m secure in my knowledge that just because a man wants to fuck me doesn’t mean he wants to love me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 10:53 PM
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I just got told I was in lalaland for thinking the threshold for sex and relationships are different… I just… How is it I’m stupid for thinking this while simultaneously being stupid for not knowing chads just using me for sex and it’s causing me to think I’m hot shit when I’m not. I’m convinced y’all just wanna be mad, the hell with making sense, “does it make me sound like a victim? Ok I’m gonna say it!”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 10:23 PM
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Not taking every opportunity to tell him he's weird, creepy, and unwanted would be a start. Or how about not throwing his stuff out of the classroom window, putting pins on his seat, or tripping him in the hall? Perhaps not threatening him, punching him, and kicking him? I won’t speak for bullies as I was bullied myself. My bullies won’t ever be held accountable for making me feel like shit, yours won’t either unfortunately, that’s life, it does more harm than good to allow those events to stop …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 10:14 PM
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You’re acting as if none of us were teens. I think we’ve all known an anti social angry teen who isolated himself from everyone. You think 15 year olds have the mental capacity and emotional intelligence to help break him out of his shell? High school is a dog eat dog place it doesn’t have special accommodations to access the cool kids club. I was never cool but I had friends, that’s the typical experience. There are some who seem to see it as an all or nothing win or lose situation if they were…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 08:41 PM
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But is that really true? I mean really? Let’s be for real. Women don’t decide their leagues anymore than men do. I can want a Chris Helmsworth look alike all day long, I can even refuse to date anyone other than that type of man, that doesn’t mean I’m gonna get him, I can join y’all online complaining all day long makes absolutely zero difference, why? Because I don’t decide my league, my league is decided by who agrees to date me. A lot of the guys here are like I won’t date fat women, I won’t …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 05:48 PM
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How is that possible when many men here state they don’t want to date fat women? Bottom is bottom right?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 03:18 PM
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My apologies, you weren’t the poster who stated cake walk or dating on easy mode, I have quite a few gentlemen trying to convince me average men have no ability to date, despite what I see daily but I digress you were the one who claimed this: Because OP's "you just need evidence of some boobs and bum and to have a non offensive face and be not fat." Rings alot more accurate to me How is this different than what I said? Nice tits, nice ass, slim waist, pretty face. Just because he worded it like…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 08:17 AM
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I think the phrase you used was ‘cake walk’
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 03:35 AM
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So in other words… not easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 02:54 AM
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Tits, ass not fat is what to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 02:52 AM
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The pool of men "you want" who also want you to be in a relationship with you. Fixed it for you. That’s true for everyone. Find a relationship is finding someone single, who I get along with, who I’m compatible with, who has similar life goals, who is attracted to me, who I’m attracted to. It’s not easy nor should it be to be fair. Going by your logic the average becky would never get a relationship bcuz she only passes the threshold to be fucked. Why would an average woman not be capable of get…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 02:51 AM
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I agree it’s not a complicated concept the poster is saying all a woman has to do to be attractive to men is… be attractive. To that I say obviously being attractive makes anyone male or female desirable Tell an unattractive woman it’s easy to find a man just don’t be ugly! Tell a flat chested woman it’s easy to find a man just don’t be flat chested or get surgery! Tell an obese woman or a woman with a flat ass hey it’s easy to find a man just lose weight and work out! It’s easy! I doubt those p…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 02:39 AM
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Everything is a social construct words have no meaning and you're playing the hell out of semantics. There's no point in us having a conversation if we can't find any middle ground to build off of. Ofcourse people have personal preferences, but just because one man has a thing for small breast doesn't mean that larger breast aren't considered conventionally more attractive. No the reason we can’t reach common ground is because you want me to agree men are victims of women’s ‘extreme’ standards a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 01:48 AM
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Having an attractive face and an hourglass curvy figure is as controllable as a chiseled jaw and height. Is the whole statement you made, which is very different then what OP said. Except it’s not he just worded it in a grey area way. I'm going to put this as simply as I know how. Non offensive face means one that isn't ugly/repulsive it does not equate to one that is pretty, very few people have truly ugly facial structure. This can be said by anyone, we all know that bare minimum is an incredi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 11:04 PM
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My bad for not being clear, but I did not mean by it just casual sex, but long-term relationships. I responded as such because the two are connected, sexual attraction and satisfaction are absolutely necessary for a relationship, hence first is attraction then psychological and sexual compatibility. Nope the two aren’t connected, many many men here fully acknowledge the “good enough to fuck not good enough for a relationship” viewpoint, that’s how I know it exists. Look at how often average wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 10:34 PM
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Are you saying that as a woman you need an attractive face and hourglass figure to be considered attractive? I didn’t say that the original poster did. Because OP's "you just need evidence of some boobs and bum and to have a non offensive face and be not fat." Rings alot more accurate to me How is this different than what I said? Nice tits, nice ass, slim waist, pretty face. Just because he worded it like he did doesn’t change what he described which is nice tits, nice ass, slim waist, nice face…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 09:45 PM
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I do agree. But here we're just talking about people we can see ourselves with in long-term relationships. I disagree, I think this was 100% about sex. I think convoluting the two is purposeful because it allows the complaint to be made instead of it being a ‘duh’ moment, why oddly you seem to be going back and forth with. This is what you responded: I don't think he said that. He just meant that the sexual market value of the average woman is way higher than that of the average man, and I don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 06:11 PM
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Since when is an hour glass figure and attractive face average?! You’re proving my point. Men here seem to think attractive women with curvaceous bodies are the norm. Sexual Market Value is a made up concept, it’s not some complex theory. Women are sexually selective on top of being expected to be so by society. It’s not some big revelation that I could be fucked by 10 random men by the end of the day. It’s not a flex, if anything if I did that I’d be looked down upon. SMV between men and women …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 05:36 PM
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Hard disagree. But even if this is true, you’re saying it as if one is hard and the other is easy. Having an attractive face and an hourglass curvy figure is as controllable as a chiseled jaw and height. At the end of the day what most of y’all are speaking on isn’t attracting any woman you guys want above average women who have attractive faces who are thin with big tits and ass as if that’s the body type of the average woman! Then y’all complain as if these women are the norm and should be dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 04:25 PM
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You don’t understand my comment? I made the original statement you’re responding to me, which is fine just if you’re going to make a unique statement start a new comment. You’re going off on a side tangent of don’t pay twice for something ‘not there yet’ and that has nothing to do with what’s being said.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 03:17 PM
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Nah nah nah. It can’t be both. Pick a lane already either women are 80/20 and men here would give their left tit for a chance to be able to date, have relationships marriage and children and the men here are superior to the men women choose because they’re nice guys OR the men here are actually worse, they demand women know their place and know that their worth is less than a man’s and they should act accordingly. Again it can’t be both. This is just another example of dudes here spewing venom o…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 02:46 PM
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And yet none of you seem to get the message. At this point this is the what? 4th comment of mine you’ve responded to? But yeah it’s me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 01:51 PM
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You’re the second poster to get offended by me saying random men don’t exist to me. Let’s dig into why that is? Because I have news for you, they don’t exist to most. I don’t exist to most. That’s how it works. Would you care if a random ass toddler threw a tantrum? Unlikely.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 01:50 PM
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Oh I understand it completely, I’m not debating in extremes the people denigrating ‘western women’ are they’re literally talking out both sides of their mouths. Did I say doormat or did you? Let’s make sure you’re replying to the right person and not assuming, please read the entire thread you jumped in.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 01:44 PM
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Getting personal? Now you know that’s not allowed. We’re debating, are you debating in good faith or angrily ranting?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 01:41 PM
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Men of PPD - were the good guys, we would make such great partners of just given the chance but women here all go for men who are losers who don’t wipe their own ass! Also men of PPD - men are superior to women if we work 4 more hours a week, why should we also have to help with housework and childcare. The jokes write themselves you guys. Sometimes I don’t believe it even reading it, it’s like surely y’all know this doesn’t help the whole, “we’re better men” argument right?!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 06:27 AM
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I replied in agreement with your statement of “just go” I mean, you could take your own advise.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 06:12 AM
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This isn’t an airport you don’t have to announce your departure.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 04:28 AM
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I don’t know if that was a weak attempt at an insult, either way I said what I said - non existent.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 04:13 AM
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Straw man? you do not have a leg to stand on with the absolutes you’re throwing around spare me. You just wrote all that to say “it’s ok for men to like attractive women but women doing the same makes her a nazi!” You said it, not me!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 03:40 AM
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The OPer and others just said they aren’t looking for obedient, meek wives, you’re saying you are. Who am I to believe?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 03:37 AM
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Again with the way you’re painting it you’re essentially bargain shopping but for a wife, I mean, I’m not knocking your plan, all I’m saying is dude get off your high horse. You’re no more morally superior than the average western woman you’re describing, you’re trying to get the best deal you can. But it’s wrong when a woman does it?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 03:36 AM
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Still non existent. They aren’t in my dating pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 03:24 AM
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Hunting and accounting are means of supporting yourself and a family. They’re are just as comparable. And women haven’t changed? So we didn’t enter the workforce? I’m imagining my college education? My career? My contribution to my household? Interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 03:21 AM
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And this mindset is superior why again?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 03:16 AM
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A wedding ring home and vehicle would be a luxury for a foreign woman? How do passport bros expect to get them if not with their resources? With the way you describe your expierience of pump and dumping do you like pretend you have resources? I don’t get how you’re acting so superior to evil western women when you want to give less to foreign women because well they expect less, like wtf! So it’s bargain hunting but with humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 01:47 AM
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More productive behind a desk than hunter gatherers? You forreal right now?! The SAHM isn’t raising their kids? She needs to be denigrated for raising kids?!? Y’all do this and then get mad women are like nah we good. The jokes wrote themselves with these arguments. What about all the accountant Steve’s who have wives who work full time jobs? Like come on dude I don’t even get what point you’re trying to make. Men work harder than women. Ok yep you’re right they do. Now what? Seriously I don’t g…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 01:34 AM
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The post history of the OPers of these types of posts never fucking fail.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 01:30 AM
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Yeah this is actually true. I don’t care a man who can’t get laid in America travels to do it. He still doesn’t exist to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 01:29 AM
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Men are not a monolith but western women 100% certainly are.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 01:17 AM
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Isn’t this how a lot of those dateline shows start?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 01:15 AM
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So you’ve been with all those women and didn’t settle down with any of them? But we’re the problem? Because what? You can’t pump and dump here?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 01:10 AM
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So men are out fighting lions for dinner? Accountant Steve uses beans? It’s odd to act as if modern innovation only benefits women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 12:47 AM
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Wait so you wouldn’t buy a Foreign woman a wedding ring? A foreign woman doesn’t get a home or a car?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 12:45 AM
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Yeah… take me out up there too neither is preferable but… gotta do what ya gotta do…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 09:05 PM
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Because there is they just don’t want them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 06:53 PM
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Probably because they don’t want to be celibate.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 05:08 PM
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Precisely. We’re all on the same boat. It’s not about not having baggage it’s about how well are you managing it? I know men in their 30’s with divorce and kids handling their baggage better than these 25 year olds wearing their virginity as their identity.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 05:07 PM
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AND the blog post also pointed out while women found a smaller percent by definition above average in looks, when swiping women followed more of a bell curve while men focused on top women. Like the one piece of evidence they have doesn’t even say what they claim it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 04:58 PM
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Hey! He gets 3 meals a day inbetween, he’s good.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 04:57 PM
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I mean is your solution of attractive women ignoring options that she’s actually attracted to and a happy healthy life with happy healthy children to be a caretaker and social worker to an autistic husband better? Men shouldn’t sacrifice but women should.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 04:49 PM
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I was just gonna say this. I think the unwanted lesbian sex would be the better option than the unwanted penetration. There is a stark difference between the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 04:29 PM
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They say that then denigrate obese or promiscuous women. At the end of the day I’m not sure what they realistically want. I think they’re genuinely mad attraction works in simile ways for men and women and women like men like attractive people. They think we’ll I find you attractive you’re a woman ut doesn’t matter if you find me attractive I’m nice is a legitimate world view
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 04:18 PM
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How is it not an analogy? Unwanted sex is unwanted sex. Having sex with an ugly guy would be equivalent to having sex with an ugly lesbian. I am not sexually attracted to either. You’re putting male sexuality onto women. That’s not how vaginas work.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 04:11 PM
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Nah we not about to move the goal post You said: its more likely that 99% of men that get laid, including the pumperdumpers met their looks threshold (a.k.a good-looking). Thus the reason why we get boatloads of men getting converted to redpills and blackpills since both pills addresses about hypergamy. You said the reason men go to red/black pill is a good looking men, so these pills make people good looking and address hypergamy
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 01:49 AM
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It’s not. It’s simply admiration. I don’t follow the Kardashians but let’s say I like a celebrities fashion, or make up line, or jokes, why would a celebrity be a role model simply because I follow them on social media?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 11:29 PM
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TIL if you follow someone on social media it’s because they’re your role model. I follow a dog who wears hats, apparently that’s where I get life guidance from.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 11:27 PM
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I stopped reading right there. My comment history speaks for itself on matters of bodily autonomy. I mean why would I need to look through your history I quoted you right here: even a guy with my Asiatic features could parlay his quals (mid-tier fraternity, played for the school's club lax team) into a hook-up with a 6ish Becky. Obviously I was too low status to be paraded around as a bf, but I recruited repeat customers on the DL - usually after their first pick starting ignoring them. You talk…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 10:40 PM
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Redpill tries to show the unwanted unattractive men how modern western women really behave in society in order to protect them This doesnt sound very men need women and women need men kumbaya messaging to me. And thus by doing all these self improvements then they can find a more traditional wife, maybe not in the west, but in the east surely. Why can’t they find one as they are in the East? Western women are the problem so being who they are and attracting a woman because men need women and wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 10:33 PM
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Whoa how did it go from feminism caused this to its in women’s nature. It’s one or the other if men and women naturally want the same thing but men need to know women’s pervasive nature, the math ain’t mathin, either we’re in this together or we’re enemies and men need to learn how to trick women to get what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 09:18 PM
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As a geriatric millennial and hapa male in the mid-Atlantic US, I've spent a lot of time around sexually unsuccessful men (relatives, colleagues, college + grad school friends). We always knew what we were missing out on, long before the advent of social media, smartphones, and 4th wave feminism. Hard disagree. I’ve seen an unattractive man’s swiping habits, he was hopeful, legit thought he had a chance with women well outside of his league. A lot of men here at least seem to not at all understa…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 09:01 PM
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Do you know what the phrase ‘n count’ means? Are you on Reddit? Do you think men are the true victims in society? I’ve never done it, I’ve never had to, but I’m sure they’re easy AF to bait. They’re also likely to lean conservative politically so another tell tale sign. Y’all really think you’re capable of turning this shit off? The typical redpiller acts like this shit is a religion, you think a cult member easily hides they’re in a cult? They typically don’t shut up about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 04:59 PM
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You’re right we can only speak of each of our own lived experiences. So why be concerned even offended that women choose their own lived experiences over threats and warnings from men who let’s be honest at the end of the day want access to them? It comes off as manipulation and sour grapes rather than actual concern. If a woman does something that ruins her dating prospects that’s her cross to bear and men who don’t want her can just…not date her… it’s really nothing to be concerned with, respe…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 04:39 PM
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Ahhhhh how I love standards for me not for thee! Now if I sat here and said only high body count fat old women want short virgin little dicked autists I’d be a bitch but those labels and judgements are A OK for men to use. Like I said bring on these so called consequences, these dudes need to remove themselves from the dating pool, the sooner the better.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 04:25 PM
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I mean you’re responding to me I assumed you knew the topic
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 04:21 PM
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I find it hubristic that men here seem to be convinced they know more about female sexuality and the weight/politics/power it holds more than actual owners of vaginas and then it’s dudes in their early 20’s claiming expertise on its consequences as if they themselves are the ones living a ‘post wall’ life. I got married pretty young so my dating experience in my youth is limited, but the limited experience I had doesn’t differ all that damn much from dating in my 30’s except now there’s dating a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 04:07 PM
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Exactly! I’ve been saying this. It’s not that things have so drastically changed ( OLD has changed the landscape of course but not the way they make it out to me) it’s that sexually unsuccessful men can now see ‘what they’re missing out on’.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 02:52 PM
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Wait hold up all you have to do to be good looking is be red/ black pilled?!?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 02:48 PM
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Correct and both are capable of strategically leveraging the power they have. Dudes here try to threaten their leverage if women don’t remove theirs It’s comical. Society won’t punish men oh no but it’ll punish women! Women better get it together and know their place! Or men who can’t get onto relationships to begin with will * checks notes. * no longer want them. Y’all literally call the happily married men here blue pill cucks but I’m supposed to fear mysogynists opting out? I say the sooner t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 02:19 PM
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You think only married men try to date multiple women? Aren’t y’all the ones who preach about harems? 30% of women single 50% men? Don’t do that. Even the below average dudes here complain they lack abundance and they need that to date properly. There was a dude here a few months ago complaining to me online dating was desolation for men and the poor guy could only get one date a month. My gawd even when actively trying to find a relationship I didn’t do more than a date a month. And then my que…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 01:41 PM
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Yeah give them a try for sure. Let us know how it goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 05:54 AM
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So you aren’t interested in a hookup but you got on tinder instead of the other more relationship oriented dating sites? Don’t get me wrong all of them are going to have people just trying to fuck but the odds of finding a more quality gal goes up with sites geared at and advertised as more relationship oriented. Tinder is not nor has it ever been. Have you tried hinge? Match.com? Christian Mingle? Bumble? CMB? I think you’ll be pleasantly surprised and how many women genuinely desire relationsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 05:34 AM
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Not insulting you. You stated you don’t struggle with dating and you simply don’t want those women you’re simply concerned about the fairness of dating. I’m pointing out your argument is going to fall on deaf ears and you yourself are demonstrating why. You claim you aren’t interested in the tinder women you’ve seen so you get how standards work and your standards are fine you don’t have to adjust yours women do. The hypocrisy isn’t going to be lost on many women here. You’d be better off offeri…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 05:24 AM
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Yeah I heard you’re a stud ( apparently you’re unaware of our ability to see post history)you’re just concerned for your fellow man. Which hey, I think that’s good, go assist them. You have a much better chance of helping your fellow man and giving them support and guidance and a listening ear than telling women they need to fuck men they don’t want to, to be fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 05:13 AM
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Just lift bruh
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 03:50 AM
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Looks to be the case. I think that’s what a lot of these posts boil down to. I want to have sex with attractive women but attractive women don’t want to have sex with me
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 03:43 AM
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What balance includes men deciding how women should ‘distribute’ our sex lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 03:40 AM
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If heights standing in their way they’re likely going after women with many options in other words they’ll be fine dating in their league.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 03:32 AM
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Ding ding ding and not being handed that on a silver platter will inevitably lead the societal demise
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 03:25 AM
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So when y’all say 20% you don’t mean love and relationships you mean hookups. Why not just say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 02:40 AM
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Why ‘must’ there be? That makes no sense. It’s simply an activity enjoyed by certain men and not by others. Sex isn’t snack time in preschool where’s everyone gets their fair share. Some participate some don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 02:34 AM
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Huh? I’m talking about access to meaningless sex, it’s not common for women to regularly engage in that kind of sex due to stigma, and well the lack of desire, Among other things. Studies showed women felt worse after casual sex vs men who felt an ego boost. So the market for casual sex is a sausagefest and due to that supply and demand many men get left out that’s always been the case. It’s not new
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 02:28 AM
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Let’s get a link for that one. In other words how many women want children but can’t because something something vengeance.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 02:11 AM
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Is that not literally what you’re doing? Social consequence? Seems like a lack of accountability to me: If women won’t sleep with us the universe will take care of it!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 02:10 AM
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You’re asking the wrong person, they’re both the same to me. Money buying access. You’re the one that claimed it’s cause they like them for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 04:14 PM
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Right this isn’t insulting
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 04:12 PM
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I was just about to say the same. I live in a major city and while I was OLD I always went Dutch and it was something cheap like coffee or apps. A few insisted they pay but for the most part I feel it was kinda expected to go Dutch.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 04:11 PM
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So these beautiful young women are smashing 40year olds on yachts for their personality? BFFR! 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 03:48 PM
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Dude why are you insulting them? They’re literally pointing out that passport bros are buying love, if western men do the same for western women then it means it’s no different meaning the men didn’t gain anything. The access is the same, they just have more money to buy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 11:06 PM
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So either way the man’s paying….
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 11:02 PM
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If it’s rare why are you so concerned about it?!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 11:12 PM
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It’s not about a double standard at all. Look up never said it was. I said it’s virtue signaling. If I like someone I’m not going to ignore that because they have a preference that excludes people. We ALL have preferences that excludes people, that’s literally how attraction works. If an overweight woman has insecurities and relies on the attention from fit men to feel good about her body then you are in for a shitty relationship and I would rather avoid that I don’t disagree. Dig in and figure …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 11:11 PM
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I’m not saying you can’t have your preferences and standards. It just hella virtue signally when tall guys or ‘fit’ guys are like “ohhhh I’m not going to date a woman who has certain standards”, like what?!? Why be so concerned? Women aren’t commodities, you don’t have to worry about attraction being fair. Like I’m not walking around “ohhh I can’t date someone who won’t date a woman with small titties” who cares!? Only thing I could see being an issue is maybe race, but even then I’d have to see…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 07:48 PM
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Whoa whoa whoa why is the woman you matched with automatically random sex? I have so many questions to how you reached this conclusion. I wonder how many others are viewing a match as no matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 04:13 AM
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Dating a match from OLD is the equivalent of a free hooker if you don’t have many options?!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 03:50 AM
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But it’s not zero, that’s like telling someone starving you’re practically starving, like telling a virgin you’re practically a virgin since you only had sex twice. Zero is not the same as not zero.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 12:45 AM
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Is that not drastically different than zero options
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 12:40 AM
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Maybe ask why the vast majority feel this way? What’s wrong with the small minority that is? Not good enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 12:33 AM
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It is how women meet. Look at OP for the data. It’s a graph that shows around 50% of people meet online so either 50% of people are meeting which is what I’m assuming you’re confirming or all women and 20% of men somehow made the graph what it is. It can’t be both so pick Both are true, OLD is unequal and sucks, and it’s the #1 way to meet women. So then that negates what you just stated about online dating only working for 20% of men and they’re living their lives with 100 women harems. If only…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 08:25 PM
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Where did I say I am pro redpill? I said THIS ISNT A FUCKING BLACK PILL CRY HOLE. We’re supposed to be debating, not coddling. This is purple pill debate, not black pill support, quit getting angry at the women who come here to debate and not coddle, if you want to support them, SUPPORT THEM! Nothings stopping you. If they need support and a listening ear why does that ear have to have a vagina? The men here are perfectly capable of supporting one another. If you wanted to know my stance ASK. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 05:31 PM
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Of course most men are average, most people are average. Average people date eachother. So it begs the question. I’m a world of billions, million female, millions single, millions in the right age group. How is it such a drastic disconnect?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 04:57 PM
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There is a brick walk in front of women who, in face of irrefutable proof Irrefutable proof of what? Their failure? They’re failing I don’t think anyone’s denying that. resort to call men "Incels" and gaslight them instead of making an effort, start doing some retrospection and say “Hey... You know, may be I was wrong. May be this guy is right. May be life from the male point of view is nothing like I thought, and it's actually completely different." There’s a difference between hearing one’s pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 04:56 PM
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Of course I wouldn’t know which user is which, but if you don’t think it would almost immediately be clear which men are comfortable around women and which ones aren’t, I’ve got a cow to sell.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 04:06 PM
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Where did I say any of that? And IM gaslighting?!! I was just presented with a no win situation from the poster. I’m not about to sit here and argue black pill mindsets, that’s the definition of insanity. You see no solution then you see no solution, own it. Revel in it, there is no problem. If there’s a brick wall in front of someone there’s a brick wall. If they refuse to see they could simply walk around it that’s on them. If facts are facts then there’s nothing to be said. Dudes here want to…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 03:18 PM
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Because then they’d have to actually try and they aren’t willing to admit they aren’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 02:59 PM
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If that’s the case then it’s not how men meet women so why use it?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 02:45 PM
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You can quote me anytime! If a persons convince there’s no solution my question to them is: then what’s the issue? I have yet to get an answer. Perpetual victimhood. A lot of y’all find comfort and safety in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 01:00 PM
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80/20 is what the victimized men here want it to be on any given day,
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 12:58 PM
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Average and Above average women tend to not be interested in men beneath their league, exceptions exist of course. Below average men here are walking around with a funny looking face and no car thinking they’re average because they’re thin.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 12:57 PM
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In our harems? Call me crazy I just don’t seem that being a feasible options for that many women, at most they’re talking half the dating population. Seems plenty would still be available for average men to compete for.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 06:54 AM
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80/20 and all that hubbub is that all women chase after the top 20% of men and those men don’t settle down, so where are these relationships coming from? The top 20% lying to all women?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 06:49 AM
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Cool what’s the issue
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 04:00 AM
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I didn’t say gets along better with men. I have mostly male friend. I get along great with men, but having no same sex friends, to me, somethings off. Often times these women were avoided because other women figured out they were toxic and chose not to be around them. You said you went through things in your childhood that painted you getting along better with men. I don’t think that’s the same as having zero female friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 01:35 AM
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Complaining* you forgot the complaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 12:44 AM
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To send out hundreds of applications would take months on end in person. Online it’s the click of a button. Same with online dating. A man can shoot his shot while he take his morning shit. And you confirmed the desired outcome of trying failing and complaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 12:43 AM
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So… you actually don’t disagree with what I said at all. Y’all = everyone in the comments spouting statistics about how bad OLD is while simultaneously proclaiming it’s the only way to meet a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 12:40 AM
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So you’re confirming what y’all want the conclusion to be - There’s no point in trying
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 12:16 AM
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I do not believe anything, I was there, and she's a landwhale now, with a kid. So because you knew a man in that situation every man is?!? Well, no, I mean because of my beliefs of self-preservation and self-determination align with Russia and Putin in the last conflict right now, but I'm not Putin nor russian. Yeah but if you start regurgitating their talking points I’d say it’s safe to believe the thoughts aren’t actually your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 12:13 AM
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How is that bad advise to someone who isn’t getting anyone to hire him online? Telling someone putting minimal effort to actually try and set themselves apart and show initiative is bad how?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 12:11 AM
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Right if the rejections coming no matter what, it’s really just semantics.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 11:36 PM
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manipulative behaviors pettiness neglects her children ( I’m older so I know a lot of mothers) competitive pick me behaviors ( every time a woman’s said ‘I don’t have female friends because abc’ they’ve turned out to be bad news. How does one not get along at all with their own sex)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 11:31 PM
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Hmmm interesting point, I didn’t consider that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 11:25 PM
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But if it doesn’t work for certain men what other choice do they have? Are you suggesting they keep trying failing and complaining?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 11:23 PM
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The funny thing is this is yet another example of folks talking out both sides of their mouths. You can’t use the stats to say “see most couples do meet online, so I have no choice but to use online dating” while simultaneously saying “online dating is 80/20 and regular men aren’t given a chance” Both can’t be true. So can we admit online dating works and there’s a reason it’s not working for certain folks ( ahem) and for those people it may be beneficial to look into other avenues What many are…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 11:22 PM
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Shhhh. You could also point out the original poster stating more women being on prescription drug simply means they get help more but then you couldn’t use these stats to mean women are bad bad things.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 11:03 PM
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So it’s embracing a jaded attitude. How is ‘enjoy the decline’ helping? It seems to just be feeding an already negative worldview
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 11:00 PM
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This is a good answer, so much is relayed in body language, innuendo, chemistry, sexual tension. It’s hard to put into words. It’s rare for me to have friends turn into romantic partners, it’s only ever happened once. Mostly what would happen is men would present themselves as open to dating from the start but as you said presented it as a hey let’s get to know eachother and see if there’s something there. That’s how most I mostly dated, now with online dating it kinda took away that barrier or …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 08:22 PM
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It doesn’t turn us off either. It’s not either or. It’s not that I found someone fuckable until I found out he was nice. Odds are I wanna fuck him even more.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 06:58 PM
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The irony is both statements don’t contradict one another at all At the end both are saying: if she’s not interested, she’s not interested. Cold approach, warm approach, approaching friends it’a still a man with his sexuality in his hand showing it to a woman and saying ‘will you accept this’ approaching in anyway is sexual. I’m NOT saying that’s a bad thing. Dating is sexual. Romantic relationships are sexual. So a man approaching is essentially asking a woman to be open to his sexuality. Now w…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 06:47 PM
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I swear it's like a fucking script. How is it their script and not your own? YOU believe they’re with ‘land whales’ who ‘got ran through in their youth’ don’t you find it just a bit telling that your belief so greatly aligns with the redpill narrative? What I mean is, yeah, the dude is happy (or that's what it seems, who knows) but the average man doesn't want to be that dude, that's for sure. I don’t think you’re describing the average man but rather young men. Young people tend to want to expl…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 06:10 PM
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So TRP teaches men love doesn’t exist so extract what you can from the opposite sex or be alone. You really think that’s better than having a healthy relationship or having a wife and children? Hell even being promiscuous is it really better to think so little of the people you’re exchanging bodily fluids with?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 05:57 PM
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I didn't convince myself, the world did Nope. To take it even further thats another issue with these cult like pill trends, they insist the world must be viewed a certain way. But the truth is our experiences, our attachment styles, our mindsets, our social status, our race, our income, hell luck all shape how we view the world around us. That’s why you have talking heads of every walk of life, they’re all saying different shit, it’s latching onto the one who says what one most recognizes, or wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 05:47 PM
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I hope it gets approved. It needs to be clarified.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 03:19 PM
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Right, so it’s all that minus the misogyny, and it still works. So why take the other road? Doesn’t liftandlurk literally preach lifting? There are redpill men who claim to have cracked the code and have reached success. Most seem pretty bitter and angry at that success though so what’s the point? If the end goal is to be happy, why latch onto messages like “enjoy the decline” I’m sorry but if I’m looking at two groups of men ones the man who lives a normal life where he dated enjoyed his youth …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 03:11 PM
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The funny thing is, that what y’all have convinced yourselves, that a man has to be a hyper masculine homophobic macho man to be attractive to women. Remember that meme about dudes being so manly they didn’t wipe their asses? It’s not about attracting women redpill is and has always been about male acceptance and impressing eachother. Women are nothing more than the trophies to take to daddy and say “ I did good, can I be a man now?”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 02:52 PM
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But y’all never check the incels, y’all check and correct women. We both know why.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 02:19 PM
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Yeah, because blue pillers are often like rich dudes who tell others they just need to work harder but got their job because their dad owns the company. Out of touch, unable to empathise with people who have a harder situation than them. Didnt say who would provide the men standing on the wall an outlet for their anger. I said who would be popular and successful. Do you think it matters how they got there? You essentially proved my point. Red pill isn’t about helping these guys, it’s about profi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 03:52 AM
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If it works why do so many men seem To be stuck in perpetual victimhood? What do y’all call it? The anger phase? This should be an in and out process. 2+2=4 yet that’s not happening. It’s just teaching men to be misogynistic and more insecure. My God look at the amount of AF/BB posts, dudes straight up fear it, why would they if they’re becoming alphas? Make it make sense. Think about it dude. Do you really think women wouldn’t be pro more hot men? Like if I came to you and said hey there’s a fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 01:15 AM
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Good looking Asian men are getting snatched up where I live and Harry Styles is just a hipster. Hipsters fuck. I don’t personally get it but I see it, they are successful. These men don’t admire them though they admire Tate like men. Dudes here live to argue ohhhh it’s women that make us follow him. No it’s y’all’s own taste that drew you to him and what he offers. He’s selling a specific aesthetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 11:17 PM
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I came here to say this some of the most sexually successful happy men here are called blue pill cucks. It’s funny. If we ever did a PPD get together the blue pill dudes here would be the ones with women all around them, you’d have the angry disgruntled ones trying out dread game and even angrier ones standing by the wall in silence. They don’t listen to the actual sexually successful men here they listen to the men selling them a pipe dream.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 11:09 PM
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You think funny looking autist Todd’s gonna magically pull models because he lifts gets a hair cut and treats women like shit? If it worked why are so many here black pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 11:03 PM
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And redpill somehow makes these women available? So he’s selling a pipe dream.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 11:02 PM
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No they want to give themselves pleasure then possibly slut shame you for it afterwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 07:19 PM
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Yes! And it’ll be the same men who accuse women who f treating them like them being unattractive is a moral failing it’s like holy projection dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 03:29 PM
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I actually really like the honesty and candor of this statement. Truthfully, men do meet my standards. I know it’s talked about societally, but I don’t have much to complain about on a personal level. I believe leagues exist though so that may paint my view. The men within my league tend to be equal to me, in looks, in education, in accomplishments. If someone below my league approached me I’d feel pretty awful saying ‘level up’ but honestly at its core that is the answer. I know hypergamy is of…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 02:39 PM
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50 years ago would be 1970s
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 10:06 AM
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I think we’re disconnected on the metaphors cause I’m not longer following you. A team and B team are all men. Men are all going through the same thing yet men struggling don’t expect other men to assist them and they don’t guilt them, they look to the other team, or women, to fix it for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 04:39 AM
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The equivalence is, women have a dating issue that they believe would be solved with honesty (Chad spinning plates). Men have an issue they think would be solved with honesty (women gaslighting ugly guys about their personalities being bad). Again you’re comparing actual interactions with well now women on the internet telling men the shit they say isn’t helping their dating prospect. The comparisons changed yet again to an even less comparable situation. It doesn’t seem like you’d support your …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 03:27 AM
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So I’m gonna take a page out of your book and say that Please do! do you think if men were meaner it would make women feel better? Nope. Should men say ‘hey you’re fat and boring but I just wanna bust a nut, so I’m going to tolerate you as I juggle 3 other women’ To be fair this isn’t an equivalent of rejection. Rejection means two people aren’t gonna interact. So if a woman approaches a good looking guy it really doesn’t matter what reason he gives for rejecting her at the end of the day it’s s…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 02:18 AM
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And yet instead of looking to their teammates for support, they’re mad at the other team.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 02:13 AM
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Apologies I had to look up. You can be honest about an autistic man's chances, but acknowledge that they're not necessarily his fault, They aren’t his fault. that people are often shallow, Correct attraction is incredibly shallow, it can be ableist, it can be racist, attraction is not politically correct. that they won't necessarily look past appearances, that despite claims that women care deeply about personality and that they seek the inner qualities that autistic man has they're not going to…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 01:43 AM
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Where did I say I have an issue being honest? I asked for an example of honesty I’m apparently not giving. You be me or any woman give an example of how it’s done. I’m being genuine right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 10:52 PM
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How did you get I’m telling you you’re entitled and demanding sex from me saying that?!?!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 10:49 PM
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You put quotations around my honesty so clearly when you say honesty you don’t mean honesty you mean something else what? What is it? Listening? Compassion? Cause that’s different than honesty
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 10:48 PM
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Men have it rougher in dating. There.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 10:41 PM
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I’m here, I’m listening. When you say you want someone to listen I believe you, when you say these men want to be heard I agree. The issue is there is no end. That’s the issue with a lot of the men here there’s no fucking end, it’s just rinse wash repeat. We can have every single woman here on this sub sit back listen hear everything said absorb it all everything, and it would feel amazing to be heard to be acknowledged. I’m telling you now bottle we have gone toe to toe many times I’ve talked t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 10:40 PM
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I actually agree. There are a lot of support forums r/mensmentalhealth , r/autism ( I think I may have to edit that) these spaces exist. Use them! Don’t come to a debate forum talk shit about women and then when the push back happens pull a Hail Mary, oh awww we’re just sad and want to be heard. Then fucking say that! Don’t sit here denigrate women rant about feminism don’t be the rabid animal ask for a listening ear, ask for support. It’s coming off like just wanting women to sit back and allow…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 10:28 PM
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How was I a bitch? explain to me how I’m supposed to be honest, what am I supposed to say exactly? Genuine question.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 10:20 PM
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Where did I say it was his fault?! I said that? It’s not his fault nor is it mine! See that’s the issue these men want us to acknowledge their issues and take responsibility for it. Respectfully No.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 10:19 PM
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You're now doing exactly the same thing as the commenter accusing me of demanding sex for support of women's rights: you're ignoring the context and narrowly defining the question such that it's disregarding the point I'm making. Where did I do that? Point it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 10:13 PM
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In my experience men actually want a solution not to “just be heard”. Its hard to find a solution when everyone is telling u bullshit like “just be yourself” or “it will happen”. Its really simple dont lie to men just be straight up. Its better for everyone at the end of the day. There it is. You just said it men don’t want ‘to be heard’ they want a solution! Guess what? Sometimes there isn’t one! Sometimes it is just empty platitudes. Why? Because it’s incredibly hard for strangers on the inter…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 09:33 PM
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I said that? You’re using one extreme to excuse another. I’m part of neither extreme I’m in the middle pointing out these extremes are being ignored because they won’t stop being so fucking extreme, because they aren’t simply asking for help, they’re the rabid injured animal lashing out when they actually need help. Your post is nothing but fodder for disagreement because all it is is denigrating women. It’s women suck and here’s why. But you’re not taking ownership for that instead it “but what…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 09:17 PM
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I’m blaming these men for saying this shit: Single mothers and overweight women are not equal to child-free women and women of a healthy weight. I'll even go further... The first group isn't deserving of commitment. If you wanna play like that’s not happening that’s your right but I certainly am not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 09:11 PM
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Ugh here we go again with the “ if only women were honest!” Come on, do you really think if women were meaner it would make everything better? Stop. This here is gaslighting. If the solution to all these men’s problems was ‘honesty’ let me solve it today here right now. I will happily do it. If it’s that simple let’s solve it! A lot of men here are autistic, a lot of men here are unattractive, a lot of men here have severe social anxiety. There done. I’ll be happy to do individual one on one exp…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 09:05 PM
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Single doesn’t mean sexless or unsuccessful in the dating world. At best we can use male virginity but even that’s only at 30% for young men and gets lower with age. So it’s absolutely the bottom of the B team.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 08:49 PM
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I didn’t ask for your impression of the dating world as a whole. Im responding to your statement. You said YOU were accused of being an entitled scum bag I asked why you think that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 08:39 PM
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You don’t but the men you are championing for and coddling do
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 08:34 PM
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But this is exactly the kind of logic that I feel that is overly simplistic and reductive. Where was I being simplistic or reductive? How is reality reductive? Why should I feel bad for the least desirable men because they don’t have access to the most desirable women? Do men here feel bad for undesirable women? Doesn’t seem like it the way they talk about them. First of all not everyone is complaining or frustrated because they can't compete. Then what are they complaining about? I have a girlf…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 08:13 PM
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Why do you think you’re accused of being entitled? Genuine question.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 08:00 PM
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It’s really not that complicated. Th dating world is what it is. If a person is failing at it, do you really think it matters if they think the opposite sex is too picky? That’s like the basketball team caring what the weakest player on the B team thinks about their strategy. Like dude it doesn’t matter you aren’t playing anyway! At the end of the day at its core all these complaints are asking for accommodation. “ I can’t compete the way things are so they need to be made easier so I can “ Whic…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 07:53 PM
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So because it doesn't change anything he shouldn't have any emotions? I literally said they can have any emotions they want. It makes no difference. They can be mad they can stay mad. That’s their right. Men who have been rejected for stuff that I they can't go back in time and change are going to be upset with women. Women need to deal with it. Of all the things I need to deal with in my life that isn’t even at the bottom of the list, it’s a literal non issue to me. The only person who needs to…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 06:54 PM
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I mean they can feel any emotion they want. Emotions are highly personal. It is what it is. It doesn’t really change anything though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 06:25 PM
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Answer what honestly?!? I answered you! The cognitive dissonance happening on this sub today . Y’all get women to say shit then get mad when it’s said I assume 37 year old virgin would struggle attracting women because he hasn’t yet. So clearly something going on. He didn’t just wake up 37 and sexually unsuccessful he was that all his life. He can now add age to the list of other undesirable thing that got him to that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 06:16 PM
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I don’t care what YOU said. You don’t get to jump into a convo change the trajectory then accuse me of contradiction. Like are you being serious right now? Jesus there could be any number of reasons why the new different man in your shoehorned scenario got to where he is so yeah sure 37 year old dudes gonna continue on the same trajectory of rejection. Like I don’t know what point you’re trying to make here. Like are you expecting me to virtue signal here? I’m so confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 05:57 PM
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He made his own bed if he had options but didn’t choose them! He had options he decided he didn’t want them that’s on him. Your response was noooo that man has no options There is the disconnect and if you believe this imaginary man has no options your beefs with him, not me. I’m debating a man with options who chose not to date them which is 100% his right.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 05:15 PM
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Happened just now in this thread. Dude made up a whole damn story because I had the audacity to say: I don’t date ugly men. I’m not even gonna lie, it was pretty funny. But to act as if men as a whole take rejection on the chin especially when it’s brutal honesty is just not even a little bit true.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 05:02 PM
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I pointed it out!!! The male poster I responded to describes a man with options he doesn’t want. Your beefs with HIM not ME
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 04:56 PM
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Again do you know what you’re responding to?! They are taking a page from women's book and just not dating people who meet their standards. For some reason though men need to date people that don't meet their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 04:50 PM
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Where did I say that?!?! Where did I mention that in this thread you’re responding to? Where did I make male attraction my concern in this response?!?! My point in this thread is it doesn’t ducking matter what advise is give or who gives it or whatever. If a woman is interested she’s gonna be interested and if she’s not she’s not. There is no perfect formula for dating. I don’t like to be bothered while I’m out but if my current boyfriend approached me, I likely would have been receptive because…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 04:30 PM
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Did you miss the thread you’re responding to? They are taking a page from women's book and just not dating people who meet their standards. For some reason though men need to date people that don't meet their standards. Men don’t need to date people who don’t meet their standards likewise neither do women, if that man ends up alone that’s his business, what was society supposed to make someone of his standards date him
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 04:29 PM
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Lol, I almost put that but then I figured you’d say only ugly people shop at Walmart.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 04:27 PM
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That’s was neither an agreement or disagreement. I said we can wax poetic about the topic, it doesn’t matter. I didn’t make the comment on the go, I know exactly what was meant I stated it, if you want clarity, just ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 04:26 PM
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You’re taking things out of context, but to end the conversation I don’t want to have yes! men should take what they can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 04:24 PM
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I did. MULTIPLE TIMES. Instead of hearing me y’all accuse me of not knowing what average is. At this point it’s cognitive dissonance. I’m sorry the internet lied to you. Average women date average men, we are out here, living life shopping at target.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 04:04 PM
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Are you trying to drag out a debate from a closed statement? Did you not accuse me of virtue signaling? I’m still waiting for my apology to be frank.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 04:01 PM
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I said that? Quote me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 03:59 PM
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Sounds like he made his own bed. We don’t decide our league. The dating world does. If a dude wants to waste his life angry the league he was put in sucks, that’s on him.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 03:57 PM
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Yup. Average is the majority. I know a few good looking folks, I’m friends with chads. I know some ugly folks. That’s typically what society consists of We tend to mostly pair off with our equals. You’ll have some averages chasing chads, you’ll have some ugly chasing average. People who shoot out of their league exist of course but to believe it’s all of society? There’s some denial happening. I assume by folks who don’t want to own that they themselves may be shooting a bit too high. I think my…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 03:54 PM
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Oh FFS! Don’t fucking say y’all want women to ‘admit’ these things if when they do y’all argue with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 03:48 PM
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I fucking love this. Truly I do. I wish the original comments weren’t deleted. You accused ME of virtue signaling. ME, one of the most brutally honest non hand holding women here check the flair, who says all the fucking time. I don’t date ugly men, why? Because I don’t have to! I say that shit with my full fucking chest. Dudes sat there crying women “don’t tell us they don’t want to be approached by ugly men” I repeat it because I’ve said it before and what do y’all do? I was out yesterday, my …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 03:46 PM
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Nah not me. But if a guys options are bitching and crying the pretty girl won’t date a potato or date a lady potato and he chooses bitching and crying. I’d advise him to shut up about it already.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 03:33 PM
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I find average men attractive. I find ugly men ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 01:05 AM
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I mean last I checked I was born with a vagina and I’m attracted to men. My boyfriend isn’t a Chad, his height alone precludes him, he’s average, I find him very attractive, by definition he is average.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 01:03 AM
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Oh well pack it up guys! It’s over! A blog post said average and ugly mean the same thing!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 01:01 AM
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At the end of the day cold approach, warm approach, hitting on friends. At its core as a man is holding his sexuality in his hand presenting it to a woman and asking “will you accept this?” If she won’t it’s a non starter. We can wax poetic about who’s giving good and bad advice, the belief that women sabotage men, this that and the other. I don’t care what my friends tell me, I don’t care what social media tells me, if I want to date someone I’ll date them. No amount of guilt or crying is going…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 12:52 AM
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Since when are average men ugly? I don’t get why dudes here try to act like they’re one in the same they’re not. If they were they’d all be called ugly. The dating world doesn’t exist of nothing but chads and incels no matter what the internet says.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 12:50 AM
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Average men arent ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 12:49 AM
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The men here rely heavily on guilting tactics. There’s no logic behind it. Think about it, would a woman calling a man ugly be any different from her rejecting him? Rejection is rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 07:30 PM
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I don’t want ugly men approaching me only attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 07:16 PM
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Correct I do not think two people with wildly different worldviews can be compatible, especially not long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 03:14 PM
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No I don’t. No two people are alike so small differences are expected but drastic? Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 03:08 PM
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I mean. Someone that decides to be single for life is kinda stigmatized. It's not seen as an admirable life path. That’s his cross to bear, does he have pity for the 400lbs woman? The meth addict? For what it's worth I think at least ten percent of people make poor romantic partners. Just like around 15 percent of people make terrible soldiers... people the army can't even trust to be something like cooks. Are we talking about people who make good partners or attraction? Cause they’re different
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 03:06 PM
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Women don’t have to do shit. If a man doesn’t want to date a woman that’s his right, he doesn’t owe anyone any explanation. Same goes for women. The hypocrisy in wanting freedom to have standards while demanding others ignore their own is at comical levels here. Men walk around thinking thin = thin for partners and that’s all it takes. Nope. Not how female attraction works. Face, personality, career, income, for some the dreaded H word! All that stuff y’all complain about because “thin + thin is…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 02:55 PM
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Standards are personal. If a man chooses not to have any that’s on him. According to y’all women do not date undesirable men. Men date undesirable women. Why are women answering for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 02:35 PM
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I mean if they don’t, blame men who date undesirable women. According to y’all women sure tf don’t date undesirable men. We know what we’re doing! Men need to catch up apparently
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 02:33 PM
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Oh I don’t have to date undesired people. I’m not an undesirable woman. Undesirable men who think desirable women are owed to them should read your response. Men know good and well how attraction works. Apparently women are just supposed to suck it up cause our standards are mean boohoo!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 02:31 PM
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I mean good for them, they should date more like women no one should be out here dating someone cause they ‘have to’ it’s pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 02:28 PM
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Then the gentleman will have to find his equally sexually rejected female equivalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 02:26 PM
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Dude stop. I don’t care if I’m here for 10 years, what I do to enjoy my free time is my business. Your one and only post is ripe for picking, I wouldn’t dare do that, it’s beneath me. Do me a favor and show me the same respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 12:38 AM
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Notice how you came to this convo to correct me? Happens all the the timex literally all the time. The individual who hours ago said men only date who they can get had not one single person challenge him. I have dozens of incels tell me all kinds of crazy shit not one single challenge. Yet here you are. Let’s sit with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 12:34 AM
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He should date who he can get
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 12:19 AM
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What’s confusing I’ll explain it to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 12:16 AM
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I don’t give a shit who dates who. I date within my dating league and I assume others do the same. It’s just comical how dudes are whining about the state of the dating world stating men date who they can get then I turn around and men are stating an obese women or single mothers are unworthy of a committed relationship. It’s literally ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 12:13 AM
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It gets old when guys here try to paint their dating experience as every males experience. Especially young men believing the know what the dating field is like for older men. It just gets so old.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 09:59 PM
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To be fair at 25 18-24 is quite literally your dating group.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 09:44 PM
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Fuck I love reading this shit then turning around and having to read the autist cry about how standards are on the floor for women and men have little to no standards and just want the opportunity to date! Truly chefs kiss
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 09:40 PM
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I think the whining is because they don’t actually feel they should have to put any work in and are upset it’s not handed to them as they feel it is for women and attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 09:33 PM
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Dude no you didn’t we are like 12 comments deep into this. Now magically you didn’t say there are no overweight male models. We’re done.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 09:31 PM
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I don’t know what I’m supposed to say in response are you insinuating that I chose my boyfriend while he took what he could get?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 09:27 PM
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No they don't, all it shows is most will find a relationship at some point. Is that not the goal? But it doesn't show the quality of said relationship and stats show most will end. I mean welcome to earth. That’s what I don’t get about these complaints they’re under the guise that everyone else is fucking and sucking and then settling into happy marriages or a virginal 18 year old bride that live happily ever after or that good looking people live the life of a Norman Rockwell painting. Happy an…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 09:23 PM
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You’re describing two different things. Of course I’m capable of feeling envy towards an actual gorgeous women in my life. I’m not envious of an idea, I don’t create boogeymen. I’m also not envious of their sex lives so no I don’t get that. It’s a different dynamic male and female sexuality and what power looks give you in the sexual market being average looking I can never be a sugar baby, I’ll never be a kept woman. But that’s not really a life I’d want anyhow plus to be frank, even as an aver…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 07:58 PM
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Oh GAWD no! I’m not a monster!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 07:41 PM
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I’m not even gonna lie, you just schooled me. Take your flowers kind sir.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 07:40 PM
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Lol… no. Read my very first response. You’re still trying to move the goal posts. There was no goal post moved you said no plus sized male models existed. You made an absolutist statement that was proven wrong a fact you acknowledge. There’s really nothing else to be said. It’s an automatic L. Lizzo is just an example dude, why is that so difficult to understand. Don’t understand?! Dude do you really think as a black woman I’m not painfully aware of the misogynoir surrounding lizzo?!?! She’s a v…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 07:34 PM
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Because he had matches outside of me, I’m aware of that information without knowing the gory details.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 07:17 PM
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I agree. But then that’s just kind of admitting the majority of young men here are throwing tantrums.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 07:16 PM
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I don’t think the non black pill men here recognize how much black pill/ nihilistic men will forcibly drag the women here into their victimhood shit. Like they’ll make a conversation about a bowl of fucking cereal a 10 paragraph manifesto about the plight of men signing up for selective service. Like FUUUUCK. We’re talking about cereal!!! It gets so fucking old. Looks like break time for me
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 05:43 PM
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I said but but but Rihanna or did I point out the plus sizes male model the poster said didn’t exist? I’ll wait. Don’t put words in my mouth I told you if you wanna debate male victimhood do it. I’m not having that convo. To put it bluntly: I don’t care. I proved my point and you know it that’s why the goal post moving. We aren’t arguing anything but the existence of plus sized male models. Point proven. End. Of.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 05:34 PM
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Ok I can’t keep going with this. It’s clear you don’t seem to want to accept no matter how many times I point out. just because a ridiculous amount of men are highly sexual on online dating doesn’t mean it’s anything I’m doing. My god I’m not a victim but you are indeed engaging in victim blaming here. You’re blaming me for existing in this space and not the men acting in such a manner. there was a typo so there can be confusion but what I’m saying is the dating world isn’t just chads and incels…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 05:32 PM
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No. That just seems like information that would make me unnecessarily insecure. I know I wasn’t the only women he had matched with, he had other options, as did I, he chose me and I chose him. That’s kinda really all that matters at the end of the day. I realize OLD is a clusterfuck with people juggling and never choosing. But there are people who don’t do that, there are people who genuinely want to find love, they’re rare as fuck don’t get me wrong but they’re there. It took me a while to find…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 05:20 PM
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I guess that would be the whole preselection phenomenon. I was just posting yesterday about how male sexuality’s baseline is to be seen as a threat and for me as a woman there are few things more anxiety indicting than a man pushing his sexuality onto me when it’s unwanted. I would say at its core cold approaching is a man presenting his sexuality to a woman and seeing whether or not she’s open to it. I mean a man’s not cold approaching to get our nails done, it’s to date, to have sex. I think t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 05:08 PM
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No, you're implying that plus size men are as accepted as plus size women from the basis that Rhianna had ONE in her runway show, as if that is somewhere near the same level of societal "acceptance" that plus size women have been granted over the past 40ish years. Where was that even given an option to be implied? Point it out. I’m not even saying I disagree with what you state I’m implying I’m just asking where did I imply it by pointing out the poster was lying? Again with the goal post moving…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 04:56 PM
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Spin what you said there are no plus sizes male models dude, you starting this with an absolute that was easily disputed. Next time say what you mean. Ok so your point is there isn’t a male Lizzo. ummm so tf what! Does every celebrity have to have an opposite sex equivalent? Is there a female DiCaprio? There are plenty of obese male celebrities who are celebrated. My God didn’t Brendan Frazier just win an Oscar? You’re regurgitating victimhood talking point that amount to nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 04:51 PM
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Ok first off it bugs me when people who act as if they’re living in a society and somehow magically don’t have the government all up and through their business we’re literally born and given a fucking number. The government is in our lives from the time we are born. Second marriage is absolutely a contract, but as I pointed out to you before even without a marriage contract if two people are together long term and breakup they’re considered common law married so it still goes to court. By not ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 04:36 PM
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Why not? Stats show they will be fine. Being frustrated they’re excluded from something in life is understandable but it seems to work out in the end minus apocalypse as they love to threaten.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 04:12 PM
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All together as in my entire time online dating, I thought you were asking all together. Good grief going on a dozen dates all even in the same month sounds exhausting 😂 When I met him there were other men in my inbox of course, but by the 3rd date we agreed to delete the apps and focus in one another. So to answer your question correctly one only him.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 04:02 PM
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I never made any such assertion. You did I said a man who has nothing going for him but an ability to fuck is a loser and not enviable you said he is because he can procreate. Which happens to be a lot to show for oneself, and biologically speaking is pretty much everything to show for oneself. Further evidence you’re saying these loser men are envied because they have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 03:59 PM
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The statement was plus size male models don’t exist not the fucking time line of plus size female models. If you wanna start a new convo go ahead. I won’t join you but you’re more than welcome to. We’re on the statement that make plus size models do not exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 03:34 PM
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All together? About a dozen.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 03:32 PM
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You need to match on Bumble and Tinder. Two most popular apps. I used neither. You're saying average men are sexual when what I said is that the men she's matching with have better options than the woman.. A man doesn't have to be above average to have multiple options I agree! So you’re proving my point, men being sexual on dating apps is a rampant problem that men of all walks of life engage in. You’re trying to place blame on women for ‘choosing wrong’ because apparently the only thing that s…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 03:27 PM
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So it’s not a goal nor is it the only two options for life. To be a beta buxx or a loser chad require choice. A person can just not choose either path and be good.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 03:05 PM
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So all hot men have children? They got nothing else to show for their life just a bunch of kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 03:01 PM
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Love is risk period. Both sexes are ‘advised’ to multidate. There’s nothing wrong with that per se, I won’t even say I disagree with the setiment in todays dating world, it’s pretty brutal. but at the end of the day the reality remains it only takes one, a man’s dream girl wasnt found because he was juggling other women, if she’s for him she’s for him. Desperation causes us to ignore red flags that’s a risk of course, but multidating isn’t required to find love it’s simply a strategy. I was my c…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 02:59 PM
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Why is this goal post on wheels Ffs!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 02:55 PM
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If a woman's on a dating app and every guy proposing her wants sex and nothing more, it means the men she's matching with don't see any value in her personality or intelligence or whatever else I repeat. A man doesn’t have to match with a woman to be sexual some apps allow a man to send a message with a like. Point two average men get sexual too. To think average men don’t shoot them selves in the foot in online dating is the epitome of putting one’s head in the sand. Ugly doesn’t automatically …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 01:55 PM
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A loser he remains. Without horniness and desiring his access to women wtf does he have?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 01:45 PM
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Neither sounds like a goal. Why are either a goal?!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 01:42 PM
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Probably because it’s abnormal to have women on your rotation. People date around in their 20’s don’t get me wrong, but people don’t typically put their life on hold to fuck people.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 05:24 AM
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Obese female models aren’t a tradition either. It’s a new phenomenon. Obese models are still not the status quo. Inclusion is happening though and hopefully it grows, including for men. That’s the problem with absolutes, they’re easily disputed you said there are NO male modes now you backed up to oh well yeah there’s that one, don’t make me do a google search man.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 04:10 AM
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Naaaaaah , y’all were all up and through propys post yesterday saying height complaints were black pill and NOT red pill. Don’t make me bust out the quotes, magically now black pill and red pill are besties? Cause yesterday black pill was the ugly step sibling.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 03:40 AM
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I got to your first example and already found lies. Have you really never seen rhiannas runways and as campaigns? She has thick obese men in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 03:36 AM
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We agree so dude remains a loser. He’s envied why again?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 03:30 AM
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Men who use their status to ‘get women’ aren’t the same as men born with said status.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 03:21 AM
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I’d say it wains enough that the regret of doing nothing with their life sets in.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 03:14 AM
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Everyone is different, as said there are plenty of successful alphas, who had other passions and motivations in life that led them to excel. Wouldn’t they be the competition? But for a subset of men, absolutely, the only (or at least main) goal in life is to get laid. These guys would just chill and goof off if more wasn't necessary to impress women. Yes I’m well aware losers exist, I just didn’t know they were envied by successful men. This can be seen across the looks spectrum, with undesirabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 02:50 AM
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I literally met me current boyfriend using online dating. How am I aiming out of my league by not wanting to date ugly men in real life or online? Please tell me what I’m doing wrong. If I found someone and the ‘experts’ here haven’t who’s word has more weight. It literally worked for me. Gave not a single ugly dude a chance. Why would I date a man I’m not attracted to?!?! I’m average, I date average men.we exist!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 02:34 AM
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If he’s a loser at life what good does that do once his libido wains? Gonna be a 45 year old loser. Y’all really focusing on short term wins.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 02:31 AM
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So men are envious of a man who has nothing going for him but his ability to sleep with other mens wives? You don’t find that just a tad bit odd? I’m not saying good looking losers don’t exist of course they do, but the narrative is seriously lacking logic here
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 01:42 AM
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I don’t know man I know some pretty attractive men. Don’t know too many who dedicate their existence to fucking. I’d assume something was seriously wrong with a man who’s only goal in life is to have sex. I mean, being close friends and having attractive siblings they’re pretty whole humans with goals and dreams and desires that are outside of pussy. You sure I don’t know what I’m talking about? Seems what y’all are describing is the mindset of horny sex obsessed teens who are overwhelmed by the…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 01:40 AM
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Because he doesn't need to be anything else. So a man’s only goal in life is to fuck? A tall guy could make more money than his shorter equivalent if he wanted to, but he simply doesn't have to do so to get laid. The deadbeat alpha gets by fine. So a tall man could make a good living and a good happy life for himself but he figures why bother I get pussy. And the successful alpha guy is limited by the fact that hard work takes time and requires rest; there are simply less hours in the day for hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 01:34 AM
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Apologies, how does a beta buxx differ from an alpha?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 12:49 AM
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It’s always interesting to me how much the deffinition of alpha changes on PPD You used alpha as a broke loser who’s attractive, financially inferior to the beta buxx But don’t y’all spout that research shows taller men make more money than short? I mean we’re all aware pretty privilege exists. Why would an alpha only be sexually successful? If he’s a loser in everything but fucking how is he an alpha? So I’d say it’s safe to say there are plenty of good looking men with high power high paying j…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 11:52 PM
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If the guys your matching only want sex it's because they are likely top 10% in looks and therefore have as many options as the average woman and don't put effort into getting anything but casual sex since they have such abundance. I’m so glad you said this it gives me the opportunity to educate you on the female online dating experience . Step A go through likes for a man this is a simple am I attracted or not. For most women it’s screening men who just wanna fuck, that’s just the likes, don’t …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 11:41 PM
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Hmmm good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 11:18 PM
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I’d say even a goofy man who I’m not afraid in would still make me feel anxious if he pushed his horniness of me. I’ve had it happen before. It was necessarily fear. Just a general strong feeling of discomfort
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 10:48 PM
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Correct good face is going to take the cake. I’ll date an attractive 5’6 dude with charisma before I’ll date a socially awkward average 6 foot dude with muscles ANY DAY. Women get more points for our bodies than men do It’s a bonus for both of course but they aren’t the same baseline, for men the concept of butterface exists, there isn’t a female equivalent to that. Doesn’t matter how jacked you are if your face is unattractive you’re not going to move up too many notches. Men get mad when women…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 09:15 PM
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So then you DO see women’s sexuality as a threat.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 09:13 PM
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I agree! I don’t really understand the logic myself but I can say from experience getting an unsolicited dick pic feels incredibly violating. It feels like someone’s forcing their sexuality on me and it’s unwanted, I see it as dirty and disgusting, subconsciously like someone took something from me. I think that’s a normal reaction to unwanted dick pics. WHY do I feel that way?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 09:11 PM
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Yes! Look down in the convo. Essentially the baseline for male sexuality is seen as a threat and baseline female sexuality is seen as good. But sex is sex, so where’s the disconnect? As I stated there’s nothing more anxiety inducing for me than a man forcing his sexuality onto me when it’s unwanted. It’s hard for me to word what I’m trying to ask right. It’s getting me frustrated lol. I may have to sit with it and find a better explanation. I guess I’m just asking why is the baseline so drastica…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 09:08 PM
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So you think it’s the aggression alone that makes male sexuality seem as a threat?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 09:03 PM
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I think the whole overwhelmed with options things is exclusively something attractive [Redacted] women experience. I’ve never been overwhelmed with options. Have I been overwhelmed with having to sift through men using the apps as access to an easy fuck? Yes, but those aren’t my option, they are non starters. So it’s worded incorrectly. Number one thing a man can do to set himself apart on dating apps? Take some ownership with intent if you’re on tinder you know why, our effort into the profile …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 09:01 PM
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I think a lot of men feel the same as you do! But society still doesn’t see it as a threat and in turn I think men and women are conditioned to not see it as a threat or violation.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 08:46 PM
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Why do we not see a woman’s sexuality as threatening if men’s often is? Sex is sex right? I was just making a point in another thread which made me post this. I pointed out the study they did when they asked men why they sent unsolicited dick pics and may said they did so in the hopes that the woman would reciprocate. But that’s not the reality. A woman sending a man a tit pic is seen as a positive and a man sending a dick pic is seen as a well perversion as a threat. Men’s sexual baseline is th…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 08:36 PM
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The baseline is to not see women’s sexuality as a threat. Is this a good thing or a bad thing? Let’s discuss!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 08:20 PM
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Lol I’m with you on the improve or settle point. Some guys literally have no options. And by no options I do quite literally mean no options. Like even heavily deformed girl won’t match them lol. Match? So you mean online dating. Like none. Like been on tinder for years and the likes still at 0. Not only online dating, but the sausagefest casual sex seeking hub that is tinder! Like approaches girls but constant rejection There we go dating in the real world. Although I fully agree OLD is a massi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 08:17 PM
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That’s exactly the point. Women understand a woman’s mind because we got the same damn mind. Men would kill it in a woman’s body for the same reason. They know what to appeal to.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 07:40 PM
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Holy shit I JUST finished saying that, I’m gonna link it. It gets so old.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 07:36 PM
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Fuck… I really hate getting dragged into this black pill shit but I’m already invested so what the hell… you are heavily deformed , unusually ugly, or a massive recluse If that’s the only women available to these men then they aren’t out of options they either take the deformed recluse or dont date. That goes back to my point it’s obstacle after obstacle after obstacle. Adapt already! Or date within one’s limitations but there is never an absolute zero option situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 07:33 PM
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Oh so you fuck every woman on campus? How do you do that? And why? I have very attractive male friends. They don’t fuck unattractive women just because they can, in fact I can honestly say with my full chest while they absolutely fuck the average chicks who approach them they don’t really go out of their way to slum, they don’t have to, so why would they? A community dick doesn’t have to try right? So which one is it? Do you slide into DMs or do they come to you? You know what’s insulting to you…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 07:23 PM
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Nah that’s not what we’re saying we aren’t switching my brain I have the same exact brain I’m just in a different body.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 07:17 PM
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You’re taking things said personally while simultaneously ignoring the denigration of women that happens here on the daily. Neither sides completely friendly. It’s a debate sub I don’t like nihilism. But that has nothing to do with the male sex, plenty of nihilistic women in the world. I love men. I love my boyfriend my father my uncles my brothers my friends I’m surrounded by men who I love I’m quite literally indifferent to strangers. I don’t hate men I don’t know. I don’t hate the men here. H…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 06:47 PM
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Who? I don’t know who that is I’m assuming a celebrity of some sort
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 06:36 PM
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Wow! So how about men who aren’t successful in the dating world NOT GO AFTER HIGHLY SOUGHT AFTER WOMEN! You really responded to me as if these women were the only option. They literally aren’t an option for many of the guys here so why they’re so focused on them is peak counter productive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 06:35 PM
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It is a complaint it’s a “ there’s no point in trying” stance. Respectfully it’s ridiculous, men want to fuck us, that’s our reality. It is what it is, that doesn’t mean every woman’s entertaining it. This idea that every woman’s just on chads dick, what kind of magical man is this?!? Lets use the infamous 20% so top men monopolizing all the party girl. Ok cool, you really think these men have the energy and time to also monopolize the nerds too, they’re just fucking every woman, like he has rad…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 06:32 PM
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We aren’t, neither are men, but it doesn’t take a female rocket scientist to know male oriented actions do not work the same on women. Men don’t seem to fucking get that. For example they did a study on why men sent unsolicited dick pics The prevailing answer was quite simply because they believed it would excite her and she would act in kind. They legitimately thought because THEY would enjoy getting a photo of tits that women must operate the same exact way when it came to their dicks. Men don…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 06:25 PM
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If she’s 5/10 and has frat boys all over her move on. Keep going down until you find the shy quiet girl who doesn’t have men chasing her ( I promise you these women exist) Problem solved. Stop putting useless obstacles in the way already.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 06:01 PM
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Ah right the ol, women have vaginas so men automatically love adore worship and never have their own dating autonomy bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 05:57 PM
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Wait so you agree with the sentiment of fish can’t teach you how to fish or no? Your rebuttal is quite contradictory. I know for a fact if I switched sexes with the same knowledge I have as a woman I’d be able to date just as most men would excel if they switched sexes. Knowing how attraction works for men and women helps greatly. I mean I’m sorry too many dudes here think height and muscles is all it should take to attract a woman. That skinny man equals equivalent to skinny woman. It’s fucking…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 05:55 PM
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As that shy quiet needy honors girl. Nope. But for arguments sake let’s say she did, she’s certainly not approaching these men and these men aren’t approaching her so wtf does it matter? It’s a non issue she’s still fully available to date regular guys who aren’t approaching her cause they have their heads up Stacy’s ass. Let’s not pretend.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 05:45 PM
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Why are you interested in shallow annoying women? You do know they don’t represent all women right?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 05:41 PM
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Dating doesn’t have training wheels or soft edges to avoid getting hurt though. If a person can’t bear to date because love is risky that’s on them. Few people are lucky enough to find love without having their heart broken and ego’s bruised trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 05:40 PM
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Just lift brah isn’t exactly ground breaking either. Here’s the thing I actually think TRPs message of quit your fucking whining and do something about it attitude is good I agree with it but do you think the black pill dudes cosplaying actually hear it? Of course not! They’re taking the mysogyny and leave the rest. So they’re still at the exact same spot gaining nothing but a new found fear of being a beta buxx
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 05:33 PM
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Oh gawd the guilt I’d have with an app like that…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 05:10 PM
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It’s almost as if risk adverse men who don’t try to date don’t fuck. Crazy right? Also… am I correct men lust after baby killers and throat slitters orrrr cause Jodi had a date with another man the night she killed here ex. The same night! Men must be attracted to criminals too!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 05:01 PM
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I enjoy sex. I’m blessed enough to have a healthy relationship with sex. Not everyone’s so lucky. I recognize that
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 03:50 AM
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By your logic all men love baby murderers and throat slitters cause both Jodi Arias and Cayley Anthony had marriage proposals.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 03:44 AM
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I agree with this. I won’t lie there are times I will be invited to go out and I have to literally force myself to go because just sitting at home netflix and chilling sounds so appealing. I think that’s what some of the folks using a ‘lack of a third space’ as an excuse to just straight up not bother. Social media. Video games. Internet. Porn. Uber eats all makes it easy to just not fucking socialize especially if we’re on the cusp as it is. But for fucks sake admit that. Admit that yeah you go…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 03:31 AM
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It's another one of those "I know an ugly guy who pulls" type of things. I don’t know ugly men who pull. I know ugly men with ugly women. The red pill sells the fairytale that an ugly man can pull average and attractive women if he just lifts brah and don’t get me started on the magical life he will live once he reaches 30! If that’s not deluding people I don’t know what is. Or are you arguing for the black pill there’s no point in anything, it goes back and forth for a lot of you guys it gets h…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 01:51 AM
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If that’s your stance your beefs with the OPer not me: This has made both dating and building friendships [men with more friends get laid more] more challenging, and some argue that people today have fewer friends than they did in the past. Single men tend to struggle with not only finding romantic relationships but also forming friendships as well. Fundamentally, it doesn't seem that men and women changed all that much, but the social landscape has shifted significantly. Again you seem to want …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 01:38 AM
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Here we go with the all or nothing socializing less doesn’t mean people don’t socialize. A smaller pool of people doesn’t mean the pool doesn’t exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 11:24 PM
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It’s not that ugly men don’t have a problem dating it’s that ugly men can date despite their challenges. It’s not that our modern times haven’t created more independence in people it’s that despite that people still interact. I don’t care about buzz words I don’t care about stats, if someone wants to get out the house and make friends they fucking can. If someone wants to find every excuse in the book of why they can’t they’ll do that too. Pick your poison.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 11:21 PM
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Sure, it's not 100% and 0%, but there's still a huge difference. Of course there are huge differences between how men and women socially interact. Doesn’t mean one’s superior to the other or one works and one doesn’t, they both work fine for each sex Guys complaining about isolation is basically just due to relationships, finding friends as a guy is super easy. Then they aren’t using the word correctly. Isolation doesn’t mean “can’t get a date”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 10:59 PM
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Guys will go to pickup basketball and meet and talk with and become friends with the men there. Women will go to yoga and not talk with the other women there. Not true at all I interact with other women in female dominated spaces all the time. I exchanged numbers with a lady the other day at the hair salon because I really liked a purse she made. For the most part women interact with each other just fine in female dominated settings that’s why we aren’t the ones complaining about isolation. Just…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 10:37 PM
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There you go again with the insults. Then you have the audacity to sit here and act like you’re just so above it all and your only issue is that the original poster isn’t debating in good faith. Dude spare me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 09:08 PM
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This was a very good response. I enjoyed reading it thank you. Can I ask though you mention tell those young men to focus on other things is infuriating inadequate. What else is there to say? At the end of the day the dating world is what it is. It’s incredibly sink or swim. Not saying that’s fair at all. I’m pointing out these men tend to think women and good looking men are just all enjoying life and living it up and everything’s roses cause we fuck. The dating world sucks for everyone but tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 09:06 PM
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This is due to the economy though. Which is women’s fault how? Women are lower value nowadays regardless of your income bracket. I mean how do I counter that? If you’re end point is your disdain of women your post is simply a rant that you’re hiding under the guise of a CMV. You can’t just say “ women’s value is lower” and have that stand as a fact. Like what? In what ways? in what value? Our pussy? Like let’s get some semblance of a stance here outside of ‘I hate women’. All of the chivalrous t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 08:49 PM
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My point was that this issue of “no friends” is not true for many men, even if those men struggle with dating. The original post was about social isolation causing singlehood. They blamed it on people not going out socializing like they used to. I pointed out many people go out and socialize just the same as always. Your response was yeah I go out but there’s no women there. You’re not countering my argument. You’re creating a new one. The issue OP was talking about, a lack of third spaces, or a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 08:41 PM
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“ mainstream narrative is feminist” I rest my case.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 08:20 PM
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What are you talking about dude? The poster randomly accused him of being gay as an insult. The original poster responded the only way you can to such a ridiculous accusation. And you went in with another insult. Then when called out you wanna play this card? You both started with insults, take some ownership.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 08:19 PM
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But I just pointed out we don’t ask for more, more was expected before, it can be argued male chivalry expectations are the lowest they’ve been in modern times. Also men didn’t stay the same while women changed. Give me a man with a house, career, car who’s offering marriage at 20. I can find him a virgin bride by the end of the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 08:17 PM
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True! It’s literally two sides of the same Toxic coin but for some reason while the men here are fully capable of seeing the bias and delusion of FFS they somehow think TRP is nothing but fax on fax
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 07:42 PM
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No accusing someone of being gay as an insult was what the issue was. His response shut the OPer down and then you attempted to insult him further.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 07:39 PM
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