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We already have those laws. Are you calling for more laws in addition? I'm not saying we need additional laws. My statement was in direct reference to the OP. Calling intoxicated person's testimony untrustworthy is problematic. In many instances, rape really happened. And so the original question places the focus in the wrong area. And my point was that we need the new laws that have come in - laws which weren't in place in the past. Prevention of rape where possible is better than the alternati…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 11:06 PM
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Laws against rape and sexual assault already exist. What do you mean by "better laws"? Laws that specifically pertain to rape when the alleged victim is intoxicated. These were not in place in the past. It simply ignores the complexities involved and creates a presumption in favor of the female. I agree there should be no presumptions. Laws against rape and sexual assault already exists, yet those crimes continue to be perpetrated. Laws against murder go back thousands of years, yet murder conti…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 04:35 AM
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The question is flawed. The hard (and sometimes impossible) task of determining what really happened between two (or more) intoxicated people means we need better laws. Imagine... if drunk men were commonly raped by other men? Would men all agree to stop drinking? Or would they demand laws to try to stop it from happening? Alternatively, would they just put up with it - and laugh at the possible transmissions of STDs, HIV, social shame & humiliation, and photos and videos of the assault floating…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 10:35 PM
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'Fight the good fight' is a throwaway line - it just means 'soldier on' :) Happy holidays :)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 10:59 AM
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Ah, nice. Some fresh air :) The air is just too stale here - I think I started suffocating. I just had a read of some of the latest, incl. the one where a TRPer posts a scientific paper that 'proves TRP theory'. Sorry you had to uphold the rational point of view on that one almost singlehandedly. I quickly came to realize that the TRP men believe that women are here for them and anything that women do that they don't want them to do confuses and angers them. Cannot debate such people. Keep fight…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 11:20 PM
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I grant that the quiz itself is horse manure stuck to a toad's underfoot. But it's red pill theory and the red pillers take this stuff seriously. The quiz is all the usual stuff with an extra tacked on. Which is, you can be a child porn consumer / producer and still be a great catch for women. You can actually cancel that shit right out by things such as not announcing you're going to the toilet. It's an 'unusual' message to put out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/14 03:01 AM
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Some of it was fun (insomuch as my admittedly inferior, Machiavellian, Sarkeesian, feminazi mind could perceive). But I feel that I've been too busy here and my hamster is feeling neglected and ignored. I'm going to take her out more. Take care, too :)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/14 02:42 AM
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It turned out extremely well. I get to walk away before I waste any more time here. Oh, and I have no fellow 'bloopers'. I work alone. From what the blue pillers said, they happen to think there's worse than this at heartiste. I don't care to read that site any further to find that out. Carry on.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/14 11:35 AM
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It was banned? Must have been some sensible people about.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/14 12:36 AM
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Irrelevant to the outcome. Wasn't looking for offense and am not offended.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/14 12:32 AM
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There's plenty wrong with Heartiste. This is just a bad joke. Yes there is. But harm against children is in a different category. I won't be here debating red pillers anymore, male or female. I wish you well :)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/14 12:18 AM
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yeh and? pederasty has been common and accepted throughout the world through human history and is still practiced without people batting an eye in much of the world This is true. Boys have been used for sexual gratification through much of history. No debate there.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/14 12:14 AM
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I'm nothing if not honest. Not sure what's holding you back, but spend some time on figuring on what it is, because you have everything going for you. Wish you well too :)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/14 12:10 AM
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Oh I'm not defending it. I can't stand him. I guess I just don't take anything he says seriously. But I'm not even RP so I'm probably the wrong person to even be answering. I'm not offended or upset by heartiste. I'm just curious why no TRP has called him out on that quiz. It's very prominent on the site and anyone going there is sure to have seen it. But as I said in my edit above, I have my answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 11:59 PM
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What? That's not what he said at all. He said women like bad boys, with the exception of bad boys who are pervert freaks. Nope. You can be a child pornographer and still end up a man or bad boy that women will go nuts over - according to that quiz. Pervert freaks quite acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 11:55 PM
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Yep the woman who cried about the possibility of 60+ year old women in her condo committing suicide because FEMINISTS, but made a blithe comment about 'pederasty' when I mentioned Romans raping their boy servants.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 11:52 PM
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Saying that being arrested for child pornography is bad somehow gets turned around - in this Social Justice Warrior's freako head - to "making light." It's not particularly framed as 'bad' when it's on par with stating you're going to go pee. And when you can be a child pornographer/consumer and still end up as a solid gold prospect for women. Let's review the reality, shall we? Yes, let's. (This won't end well for you). The Blue Pill Feminists' favorite play is The Vagina Monologues - which ope…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 11:29 PM
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Well, Heartiste is, to me at least, a reverse Jezebel writer, but of all the crap on his site I'm surprised you chose this to be offended by. I guess if you look at it a certain way, it "makes light" of child porn, but that's only because his quiz is overly simplistic and you generally don't score more than 1 or less than -1 on any question. The female quiz, unsurprisingly, is more nuanced. I'm not offended. In this quiz, you can be a child pornographer/child porn consumer and still end up with …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 11:12 PM
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So that's all it takes to be a pedophile these days? Nowhere did I say this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 11:09 PM
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Who said I'm offended??? I'm not offended in the least. You honestly think women think men who like naked pictures of 6 year olds are bad boys and they're attracted to those men because of it??? Wow wow.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 04:50 AM
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The point that he even went out of his way to distinguish sex offender arrests from non-sex-offender arrests only proves that he finds such behavior reprehensible, and didn't want to award an SMV point to such people on his arbitrary scale. Are you people REALLY that brainwashed??? He didn't distinguish 'sex offender' arrests from other arrests AT ALL. He didn't mention rape. He mentioned 'child pornography', which is a very specific area of sex offences. Roissy - whoever the fack that is - didn…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 04:46 AM
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edit: wow, there sure is a whole lot of downvoting in a sub that has a rule against down voting. True. I watched my question go up in points then spiral down. Who was doing the downvoting there? I have never downvoted anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 04:38 AM
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How did you get "make light of child pornography" from that? Someone saying they're going to go pee is weighted the same as someone arrested on child porn charges. Someone arrested on child porn offences does not even belong in this quiz. How do you not get that?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 04:36 AM
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I've seen that stuff. (This isn't about the age of consent though. It's about child porn - which includes every child from the age of a baby to toddlers to prepubescent children.)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 02:20 AM
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I'm really sorry to hear about your experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 02:00 AM
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Nope. Do not want. Here's the thing - I don't have (much) of a problem with how sexual dynamics play out in the real world (I mean, yeah, there will always be frustrations and unfairness in sex and love, but that's going to be inherent regardless). I believe those sexual dynamics are innately part of human nature, and as such, can never really be legislated or moralized out of existence (all attempts to do so have always failed, some worse than others). To think that they could reflects idealism…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 11:26 PM
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Yep interesting to see RP view on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 11:17 PM
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I was talking about marriage. But same deal for relationships - you'd hope there would be love involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 11:16 PM
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So you haven't had sexual experience, but you're sure to have had a lot of experiences you couldn't have had if you'd been in LTR etc. Go forth and do whatever you want to do. Keep improving. And a girl doesn't need to know your past. She just doesn't. If she asks, you say you don't talk about your past. (Do stop rating women from 1-10. Don't become a jerk.)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 11:14 PM
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Men are in relationships because: They can let some of their inner fears/insecurities out. Or : Free access to sex. If these men can't get females for casual sex at least a relationship grants sex. Ok so men don't marry for love. Got it. Thanks for the update.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 10:55 PM
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Much more should be done about rape in prison. I don't care what the person did on the outside, rape shouldn't happen to them in jail. Yes I do know it's rife in jails. But you could compare all kinds of things. Such as what's worse, being held up in an armed robbery or being sent to jail and raped? I don't want to experience rape - if that's hard for you to understand, so be it. The examples I gave shows that rape can be the worst crime ever and can be just like a life sentence. I personally kn…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 09:19 PM
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Yeah same here. The men I know are very commitment oriented. It's usually the woman who is agreeing to be a girlfriend or not agreeing to be a girlfriend. Yes, and being asked to marry too soon, way before the relationship has progressed far enough. It's a nice thing and I'm not talking it down, but I think men are very much looking for 'hearth and home'.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 08:56 PM
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I did say "Tell that to the children and teenagers raped by adults". I agree that could screw up a boy's life for a very long time, exactly the same as a girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 08:49 PM
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You are talking to people who flat out deny that what they are seeing is simply "men talk" as exists between men in private. How is it is men talking in private when there are very public blogs espousing this stuff?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 08:25 PM
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http://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/23ini2/til_that_an_influential_feminist_theorist/ The people who wrote the points being commented on in that article were men and women who were psycho-anyalysts and post-modern philosophers (now old or dead). I don't think that the point of such discourse is meant to be hard science. No, it doesn't represent the day-to-day business of living in today's world. Carry on.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 08:20 PM
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Can I answer as non-red pill? I wouldn't want to live in this world. I think crime would explode. You'd be forcing men and women to live together who hate each other. You'd be forcing men and women who should not be parents to be parents. You'd be forcing pedophiles and child abusers to live in a household of children.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 07:58 PM
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Cute. You fail to realize that women are the gatekeepers to sex, men are the gate keepers to commitment. Your egalitarian equalist bullshit is shallow and poorly defended. 80% of today's "average" men, without TRP or Game awareness, will NEVER experience 13 vaginas by age 30. They'd be lucky to experience 3. In my experience, men are very into commitment. Even when you say you'd like to go very slow and keep things casual to start with. They want commitment. TRP is trying to encourage men to 'sp…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 04:55 AM
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Sooooo....even after THIRTEEN DICKS, you STILL can't find a man worthy of your commitment? Not "dated", not "gotten to know", not "socialized with"....no, thirteen different men who she has granted vagina access to, and she still can't find a man that's "good enough"? How many dicks do you need to experience before you find "the one"? 30 dicks? 50 dicks? 100 dicks? Sooooo....even after THIRTEEN VAGINAS, you STILL can't find a woman worthy of your commitment? Not "dated", not "gotten to know", no…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 04:40 AM
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It's not wrong to teach men whatever you like. Go and out and build walls and paint them red! Women will just shrug and walk around them. Women will continue on doing what they do anyway - for them the wall doesn't exist. The only wall is fertility which slows to a crawl at age 40 and that one is only years away from being beat. Of course women worry about turning 30. And 20. Have you heard them rave on about turning 20 and leaving their teenage years behind? And men of that age say it too. Hang…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 04:11 AM
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I pretty much don't like blondes or white women. They're almost ugly to me. I like dating in my race. I'm not even racist. I don't think your statement is racist. People like what they like.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 03:57 AM
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No, I don't think it's okay at all for an innocent person to be put in jail. A very small percentage of innocent people will go to jail - that's true. And it's a devastating thing. But are you saying you want no one to be put in jail in case an innocent person is put in jail? To answer a question that can't be answered, as to which is worse depends on a lot of factors. Personally, I would rather face jail as an innocent than face rape. While being raped, is only an ordeal for an hour or so. Tell…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 03:51 AM
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You're completely misunderstanding such novels with that question. I don't read romance novels, nor novels with rape/ravish undertones. But I do know many women read and enjoy them. I'd say there's an evolutionary basis to such stories, as being raped and conquered by invading armies was a common experience for women over thousands of years. The most women could hope for was that the man who forced her to marry him would be kind underneath the savagery. Such events linger as fantasy and rape-pla…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 03:07 AM
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Evolutionary Behavioral Science is the study of modern behaviors or traits from an evolutionary framework. Evolution informs our modern behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 02:29 AM
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That's not the general experience of promiscuous men, who have little trouble attracting women (including low partner count women) despite their own promiscuity. Consider that PUAs could also be selling men lies. The majority of PUAs I've seen are very attractive men who'd have no trouble picking up girls who had already decided they'd like to go home with those guys. Most women pretty much want a guy who mirrors their own partner experience. This is just a small study of young women, but it say…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 08:59 PM
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The article spoke about primates, so i'm assuming the research is going to back to the beginning of humans. Then you assumed wrong. That's crazy talk. The article was from LEBS (Letters on Evolutionary Behavioral Science) and they started the article by talking about species and primates.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 08:32 PM
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You first.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 08:22 PM
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Sooooo you are asserting that most of the military is comprised of homo-erotic ass pounders? Never saw anything close to that when I was in. Guess the military will be having on-base gay pride parades soon. Nowhere did I say that. I said that rape is an issue in the military. There is too much evidence to say otherwise - and we can safely say that many men are not reporting what is happening to them for fear of ridicule, out of shame and of fear of losing their jobs. Many military men see it as …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 08:20 PM
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Testosterone charged men are capable of anything. From doing the dangerous jobs of the world, to exploring places to jumping on mines in a game of Russian Roulette like those guys who titled the study on Darwin Awards. Women did a lot of the dangerous jobs of the world throughout history, and commonly worked in mines in the years after the start of the industrial revolution (and they've always done one of the most dangerous jobs of all - giving birth) - all with low amounts of testosterone. What…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 08:10 PM
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He also seems like a genuinely nice/chill bloke and he's very attractive. Any sexual hierarchy that has Hugh Jackman at the bottom and Roosh at the top is pants. Women around the world agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 07:52 PM
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Why does the "whole culture need to change?" Why? Says who? Says the Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America who also says the military suicide rate is out of control.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 11:25 AM
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The alternative is feminism, which doesn't put men's needs on the same level of importance as women's. Women's needs supercede men's because women are the oppressed gender. So where does that leave men? True enough. The question is how did the MRA go so wrong. They could have been a positive force. We need men and fathers as much as we need women and mothers, so maybe a new movement needs to start.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 07:01 AM
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I'd say most people aren't like Elliot Rodgers. His family were well-off and he was what quite a few women would consider good looking. With his father's connections, he could have done so much. He had deep problems. I'd say most men that trp attracts have genuinely tried and they've been knocked back, and have become bitter or confused or both. I believe them when they say they've had a hard time attracting women. I don't consider they can all be liars. Some of course, would want beautiful wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 06:01 AM
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I don't think many men would agree. Really? To me, his wife is attractive. I can't see her from a man's point of view though. If I had to judge, I'd have to say I'd find him unattractive. But I don't like to judge that kind of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 05:50 AM
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What feminism does not discuss is the typically "masculine" qualities in men. How they are expressed, and how typically masculine men fit into this changing world. If I can find the articles by feminist writers that do discuss these things, I'll post the links. Such as the school system - which was set up by men but was never ideal for girls or for boys. It's not exciting or challenging enough. Too much 'sit down and learn". But both sides have a lot to learn. What woud be beneficial to both sid…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 05:47 AM
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By this definition, would Hugh Jackman be omega? He seems happy :)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 04:10 AM
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Stephen Colbert is usually the token example of an omega male as someone who is ultra successful, attractive, but extremely liberal and has a wife and family with a woman far below his league. I just had to go look at his wife. He did well as far as I can see.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 04:08 AM
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They have no expertise in demanding that a culture of martial conduct and discipline be changed simply because they are being raped by shoving themselves in places full of masculine, aggressive, testosterone charged men. So, testosterone-charged men are incapable of doing anything except sticking their dicks in every hole they can find (which are other men in the military). Now we know why things aren't getting done the way they should. Thanks for the explanation...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 03:24 AM
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Any role they fulfill past medical can be done better by a man. No. You need to do some research.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 03:18 AM
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Holy shit, a sanity post in PPD. Is today a holiday? Yes. A holiday from reality most likely.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 03:14 AM
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I don't think its inherently rape, but I think it can be. If a person is so intoxicated that he or she literally cannot consent (because they don't even comprehend the situation, don't have the muscle coordination to display discomfort/unwillingness, or can't even talk effectively enough to communicate consent or lack thereof) and another person is relatively sober or buzzed, I think that the sober(ish) person is a rapist. ^ This. If the other person was as drunk, they wouldn't be able to even p…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 02:58 AM
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Are you a Christian? Because I know the quote you used for this: The greatest trick feminism ever pulled was to convince the world it's only about equality I needs stats about the divorce courts, because everything I see says that men almost always give their ex-wives custody of the kids (around 80% of the time) and in cases where they go for custody, they get the kids 51% of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 02:52 AM
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However, you can still track this back to the lopsided sex drive - if women weren't having that sexual power over men by default in the first place, "flipping the script" and putting the uppity womenfolk back into their places wouldn't really make sense, at least not as a general explanation. This may be partly true. Although rates of rape went up in the free-love 60s and 70s. I'm guessing that a lot of premeditated rape/ serial rape is carried out by sociopaths. They don't have the conscience o…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 02:34 AM
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Thanks but they'll think we're forming some kind of underground feminist cartel if you give me names ;) I don't think feminism is as uninterested in the male psyche as is claimed - I think the most vocal voices in feminism just get the most attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 02:26 AM
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A very mature way of thinking about it :)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 02:22 AM
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If you want to prevent the rape and suffering of women, keep women out of places they do not belong. That doesn't work. Rape and suffering comes to women in war. And rape in suffering is largely happening to MEN in the military. Are you going to keep men out of the military and staff it with women instead? That's always an option and it's not sounding like a bad one.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 02:21 AM
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NO, the fuck, IT DOESN'T. Yes, the fuck it does. The military does not need to waste time, effort, or resources policing the base environment to make it "feel safe" for the 10% of the force that are vagina operators. We've established that most of the people experiencing rape in the military are not "vagina operators" but MEN. Get that straight before you start talking. And when they cut loose on Saturday night after a week of strenuous work, don't complain when they "be themselves" You mean, wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 02:15 AM
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Yes, it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 02:05 AM
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However, even though "Feminism" only has a history of being about women, all of a sudden they can say it is about everyone. Untrue. The suffragettes movement had its roots in the anti-slavery movement. Being unable to participate because they were women largely led to the suffragette (feminism) movement. By the way, "man" has a history of meaning all humans. It isn't like only 20 years ago did society decide that "man" meant humans. Yes it has a history, but a very negative history. In anglo-sax…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 02:05 AM
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From that thread, it sounds as though it can be pretty damned awful for women. But it also sounds as though women coming into the military is the best thing that could happen. The whole culture needs to be changed. The men who are currently harrassed/ raped are likely to stay silent. But if women change the culture and it's no longer allowed, it will be a much healthier working environment. I didn't realize male-on-male harrassment was so prevalent in the military. I knew it was a thing, but it …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/14 08:37 PM
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I'm too busy playing with my hamster to answer that question ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/14 11:59 AM
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"don't work on meeting women, work on yourself and they will come on their own", and I have to say that this is a more promising avenue than picking a "girly" hobby in the hopes women will appreciate you for it (unless we're talking about dancing). It's a not-too-uncommon fallacy, though. Quoted for truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/14 11:56 AM
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Seriously. I'm a woman and I have no problem using mankind or resorting to "one" or the male pronoun when I'm being lazy or general. But God forbid. God forbid... That said humanist would likely make everyone feel better about the word. Yep :) My point was: Why can't 'feminism' mean equality of the sexes? Is it just because it has that pesky 'feminine' meaning attached to it? If women have to accept 'man' meaning both men and women, why can't people accept 'feminist' as meaning equality for both…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/14 11:53 AM
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I've actually seen this kind of thing quite a bit. Men who think women don't know their own minds and try to pick up on a woman's 'body language'. (As though her body is somehow unconnected to her mind) The men in that scenario seem so disconnected from women, it's like they view women as an alien species they're trying to decode. I'm sure women do it too and just aren't vocal about it / keep it to themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/14 11:49 AM
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Right. My goto study for lane-changing AFBB is this: https://www.academia.edu/413334/The_Terminal_Investment_Hypothesis_and_age-related_differences_in_female_preference_for_dads_vs._cads The article spoke about primates, so i'm assuming the research is going to back to the beginning of humans. I'm no expert on pre-history, so my questions would be these: very young females (under age 18) have far greater rates of death in childbirth in developing countries mostly due to underdeveloped bodies. Wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/14 11:33 AM
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My female friends (and definitely my wife) would absolutely corroborate this view. I would have thought it was common knowledge too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/14 11:10 AM
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TRP says that men can get away with having lots of sex because it gives them prestige and preselection Generally only in the eyes of other men. Unintelligent women might see a man with a large sexual partner count as anything more positive than a man with a large sexual partner count. sexual fidelity isn't as important as emotional fidelity to women. I could forgive an emotional affair, because you can't help who you love. (But I'd expect him to cut it off as soon as he realized what was happeni…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/14 11:04 AM
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Are you kidding me? They surveyed people seeking affairs. Don't you think their thinking would be skewed? A woman wanting an affair would probably be okay with her partner having an affair, but she wants to keep him, so doesn't want him falling in love, A man wanting an affair probably does not want his wife to have sex with someone else. "Victoria Milan, a dating site for people seeking affairs, surveyed 5,000 of their members to find out their attitudes about cheating -- specifically, how they…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/14 10:58 AM
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In that case, the writer of the article shouldn't have given a laundry list of complaints. men view LTRs and marriage especially as a massive risk. This could have been a valid theme if the writer had thrown some real research behind it, instead of pulling random stuff from here and there and not checking anything to get the whole picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/14 10:39 AM
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That's exactly right, and good point about Japanese women also signing out of relationships and marriage. I haven't been here at reddit / the purple pill long - but I'm starting to see that it's not worth it trying to have debates here with certain elements. That article was just an embarrassment.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/14 10:36 AM
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Men who don't control themselves, however, don't have the same options women do to meet, and what you called "crime, not sex drive" is actually crime (or misconduct/misbehavior) because of an unmet sex drive. You're going to have to admit here that some part of society is leading men to think that women should be meeting those needs AND that not all rape is due to unmet sexual needs. Some men just want power over victims, even though they have a willing gf/ wife at home. It's a problematic side …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/14 10:33 AM
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Very cool :) I hope you do get motivated - too talented to let it slide. I also have to say, I couldn't imagine you having any probs getting dates. You must be at TRP for other reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/14 10:25 AM
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In my naive younger days I was an unwitting cover gf for a gay guy who was too scared to tell his parents. I invested a lot of time into that relationship, only to be cheated on. After I found out about the cheating I found out he was gay. It hurt. That must have been such a difficult point in your life :(
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/14 10:23 AM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/14 10:21 AM
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It is disingenuous at best to say that the word 'man' (as in mankind) can mean both men and women, and I can no longer take anyone seriously once they say that. The framework of 'man' does have the monopoly on labeling both men and women. If what you want is to say men and women, then the 'man' label is unnecessary. You are egalitarian. If what you care about is equality you can just as easily call yourself a woman as you can call yourself a man. I really don't appreciate the whole "well you're …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/14 10:20 AM
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Are "secret sluts" something like "secret santa"? Do you get gifts for being a secret slut? Are there strategies for getting better gifts? - most secret santa gifts suck monkeys balls, so maybe secret slut gifts are better. How can you find out if your date has secret sexy fantasies about Santa Claus? Do all men have secret sexy Santa Claus fantasies? If a penis is poked in a peach pie, is it still virginal? How can you find out if your date has had a peach pie experience? Where can women find o…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 11:54 AM
1

But... but ... you're Katniss and Hermione.... I'm disillusioned :(
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 01:41 AM
1

A lot more INTJs and INTPs here than you'd expect in a normal population. But this isn't a normal population, is it? ;) ;) Interesting to see that most people found their result accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 01:40 AM
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Ok, I have proof people. GuitarsForTheWin is a smooth 'free spirit' dancer. People would clear the dance floor to watch (in a good way) :)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 01:36 AM
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Thought experiment: if both were equal (let's say your sex drive was the norm for women, if you aren't embellishing things), men would have it easier getting laid (therefore less motivation for said misbehavior) and women on average would be more receptive towards sexual advances (therefore less complaints about male misbehavior). On the other hand, you'd get less women getting laid (reason for female misbehavior), and more men complaining about horny women. Sounds about right. And yep I gave an…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 01:30 AM
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You're talking about crime, not sex drive. The stuff you're talking about is entitlement - people thinking they have a right to things they don't. Nothing to do with sex drive. People who rape have a much higher incidence of crime in general, such as theft. Catcalling is about entitlement, as though a person walking down a street is there for your personal pleasure. EDIT: to take out personal info.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/14 11:23 PM
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A 35 year old virgin There is a possibility she might be asexual, which would suit me. Bonus if she likes to cook and clean, as I don't. Bonus if she'll look after the kids and give me more time to work. Bonus - girl company for me! (I live in a house of all males) (She'll have to be happy to share me with my SO)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/14 10:55 PM
1

I'm not sure of the context of this statement, but if they choose to stay, that's their own choice. And if you've said it from the start (not months down the track) then what else can you do? From what you've said here, you're doing the right thing in laying it on the table from the outset.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/14 10:43 PM
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Red Pill is about observations regarding female behavior, both through first-hand accounts and through what I would call "wisdom teachings" But most of RP have problems either relating to women or getting any women at all. Which means they're only dealing with certain subsets of women and not women in general. We're not like you think we are. The Bible was witten by men in a time when women were thought to be there to serve men and that's all - enough said.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/14 10:38 PM
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He falls short with that description, because he omits that there's also undesirable behavior from men that can be attributed to their inherent biology (like their drive for sex and physical violence What is undesirable about a drive for sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/14 10:34 PM
3

GridReXX has it right.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/14 10:31 PM
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Everyone can be a leader in their own life. In their job. In their relationships. In their family. In their community. In their passions. Wherever they have the opportunity, they can be a leader. The opportunities for leadership are abundant - it's actual leaders that are scarce. I'm not too worried about an overabundance of true leaders at this point, lol. I totally agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/14 10:05 PM
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I think most men would like to be thought of as strong and as leaders. I could be wrong on that. I wasn't saying RP wanted them to be :)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/14 10:05 PM
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I'll preface this by saying I care about any group that says it's having issues and are unhappy in life. I'd say what this group really needs is some strong and capable leaders to show them the way. The arguments presented in the article are just unintelligent and this person can't be one of those leaders. If this group wants to opt out, let them opt out. The vast majority of men just want to get on with things, as do women. What strikes a lot of women as strange is how rational and systematic s…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/14 09:35 PM
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Alpha/Leaders are dominant and in control. If all RP aspire to be this (and probably most men) how can you all be leaders?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/14 08:56 PM
1

Thanks for explaining your experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/14 08:42 PM
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Arkif makes mental note that she made reference to possible reactions of 'Hell no to psuedo-science' in the orginal post I know it's been debunked. In my own experience, I find it pretty accurate. In the linked article, which I've read before, the writer seems to have a misunderstanding of what introversion and extroversion actually are. I personally find the 'five factor' model pretty silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/14 08:40 PM
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arkif makes mental note never to reply to M_rafay again
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/14 08:31 PM
0

Indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/14 10:13 AM
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they are perfectly capable of switching from a passionate, driven idealist in the workplace to that imaginative and enthusiastic free spirit on the dance floor, often with a suddenness that can surprise even their closest friends. Video or it didn't happen :)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/14 09:55 AM
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I had a problem with this in my last LTR. But he stepped way over the line with his yelling and name-calling. Long story short. I left him. But I understand what you're saying. Women do indeed interpret men's anger in the way that you're saying. Your anger doesn't sound directed at your wife at all and it's good that you explain to her that it's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/14 09:48 AM
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I'm saying in general, not in all cases. In the context of my post, it means a few different things women often watched their mothers trying to appease their father's rage women watched their mothers often trying to control their own anger (with the anger mainifesting in other ways, such as depression) if a man has been at work at day, the perception often is that he's stressed and needs to let off steam men's voices sound more authoritative than women's, which leads to the perception that their…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/14 09:39 AM
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Pill: I'm dour and colorless. EDIT: to take out personal info.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/14 04:40 AM
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Great ad. Of course women have agency. Women are conditioned to think that men's anger is more warranted than their own anger. So if a man is violent or loud at home, then a woman is likely to rationalize that he's stressed. The more she allows his anger fits and the more she blames herself for his anger, the more she falls into a pit. If she grew up in a house with a father who abused her mother, she's more likely to accept her SO's behavior, and the more likely she is to have repeat relationsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/14 04:12 AM
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The psychology behind false rape accusations is simple. Most women want to be dominated by a high-value alpha man. They call it ravishment, but it's basically being raped by a high value man. Or, if not this fantasy, the fantasy they have is to be completely dominated/overpowered by lots of men (i.e. a gangbang) No.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 11:07 PM
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People lie about car theft and engage in insurance fraud and all kinds of things. Unlike lying about theft etc, the vast majority of false rape claims wouldn't be premeditated and many would be out of fear (fear of reaction from their parents/ boyfriend etc) or anger (anger at the realization that the man was just using her or to get revenge for some reason) or, in the much fewer number of premeditated cases - financial gain or attention. The effect of a false claim on men is devastating in many…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 11:06 PM
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The swinger maket would be a whole other ball game. If a woman is just looking for sex in a club etc, good looks is all a man needs. But, women are attracted to all kinds of men and might decide to go home with an average-looking guy who has loads of energy on the dance floor. Most women wouldn't have sex with a man they found unattractive who had money & status if they weren't getting anything out of it. Depends on the hobbies. I'm friends with some damn fugly and broke artists who are able to …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 10:34 PM
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If anything, TRP wants to bring back the western rule of fathers as found at the height of rome cough TRP wants to found their economic system on slavery and commonly have sex with houseboys?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 10:17 PM
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Of course they feel entitled. They feel entitled to have sex with women and spin plates until they get married (if they want to get married) in their 30s or 40s, while they imagine women should have as few male sexual partners as possible and get married under age 25. Then make up some rubbish about SMV for their rationalization. That's entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 09:22 PM
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Nothing happens in a vacuum. It would be foolish indeed to say that the industrial revolution didn't change things dramatically - for everyone. Man, woman and child. Along with the positives and advancements, it used people as tools for never-ending production with no care for their safety. Children were used relentlessly and often died in the working conditions in places such as coal mines. Women worked in coal mines, factories and mills, including when pregnant, and then had to come home and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 09:15 PM
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Some kind of fb page geared toward men and there was a graphical quote posted with a link underneath. Not a feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 08:37 PM
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I followed a link direct from facebook to the red pill sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 07:47 AM
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Really? They have an opinion on this stuff, too? Hells bells.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 07:21 AM
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ok, I haven't seen any reddit subs except this one and the other two 'pills'.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 07:17 AM
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Could you tell him you're doing a school/ college assignment (if you're at school) and ask him to help you with it - and show him a pamphlet. You can print this one out: http://www.batteredmen.com/batpamph.htm
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 05:19 AM
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That's true. Yes, your ex showed his hand too soon. I'm very sorry for his next girl. My ex was like a sweet best friend before I married him - there was no hint he'd ever do the kind of things he did.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 03:19 AM
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This seems more of a question for a relationships forum. But could you buy him a book about boundaries?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 03:15 AM
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Good luck. It's a story I've heard often, and you are so very strong and brave to get away. That was many years ago now, but thanks. My experience made me understand why some woman don't leave. They think once he's 'not so stressed' he'll change, or that if they leave, he'll kill them or hurt the kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 01:20 AM
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Great!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 01:09 AM
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I have never heard of him before, but just watched the video on the page you linked to. He seems like a sociopath. Most reasonable people would consider they might indeed kill someone by throwing them from a roof into a pool. The girl just misses the concrete edge. (Unless it's a stunt and was just made to look that way) The woman has the brains of a gnat. A life surrounded by very stupid, very attractive people of the opposite sex who are there for your money? Could be fun for a while. If he is…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 01:07 AM
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Women are the gatekeepers to sex, men are the gatekeepers to commitment. No.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 12:47 AM
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No I didn't. I was terrified that if I did, he'd be out in one or two years and make good on his threats. In retrospect, I should have, and then move across the country and change our names. On the life of my children, it's factual, and much worse than I'm willing to state here.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 12:37 AM
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Also why would she feel the need to keep expanding her SMV the way I feel the drive to! Societal pressure.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 12:32 AM
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Look, it's simple. Guys care more about looks than girls. This is just the truth. Well not that we care more, but looks are what make a girl attractive instantly. I'm afraid it's exactly the same for women. Looks are what make a man attractive instantly. It's true that more women settle for guys that are less attractive than what they would like but it's also true that women rate men's looks lower on average than what men would rate women's looks on average. Whereas with women status and social …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 12:27 AM
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I was trying not to be sexist. Okay, I'll give a story of my own: If it had been a "fault" divorce, his ensuing rage might have ended up in the babies and I being murdered. EDIT: to take out personal info.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 12:19 AM
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Looks matter. Just ask a guy in a wheelchair how far confidence got him with women. Or 5'2" guys. Or even black guys in certain cities. That said, unless you are actually physically deformed, you're wasting time and money. If you're 25, kiss-less, and so morbidly unsuccessful that you're actually considering elective surgery, not to correct a deformity, but just to improve your facial aesthetics slightly, I can absolutely guarantee you that your looks haven't been why you're a fuckup. And I doub…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 12:01 AM
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In no-fault divorce, the initiating spouse should forfeit custody AND any claim on assets outside of legally jointly owned property and any claim to alimony or maintenance. You want out for no good reason, fine, but you walk out with nothing. Bring back fault based divorce for the purpose of custody, child support and alimony. In order to get any of those things, the filing spouse should have to prove they are abandoning the marriage for the traditional faults and not on a whim or because they a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 11:40 PM
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This assumption seems to really piss you off. Now imagine we'd hear all day that women would be better at everything if men just let them, and that men are by and large deficient and.... oh wait. Is that the message you hear? I see a lot of that in sitcoms, movies, ads, cartoons such as The Simpsons/ Family Guy. Not trying to start a discussion here as it's the wrong thread for it, but your comment was insightful.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 11:34 PM
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I said that list is the thoughts that used to go through my mind on first dates. The only firm dealbreakers are the ones about violence/abuse, sexism/racism and wanting a traditional woman. The others are signals rather than dealbreakers, but if there were enough, they might sway my decision. What I like is what I like. Yes his history is not my business and his promiscousness is not a dealbreaker, but it's a strong consideration - I'd be looking for someone who matches me as closely as possible…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 11:27 PM
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You gave the abridged version. Shaming tactics still in use today and minimisation of female to male abuse still in use today. I didn't give any version. Someone else posted it. Most of her writing is about the oppression of women in the 1300s-1400s. Women were thought of as the seducers with wild urges in her time - not men. She's very much a product of her times in some ways, but she does give good insight and tells how women being prevented from being given a voice in anything leads to negati…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 11:06 PM
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Do women get sexually aroused by the sight of a man who is "topless"? Very much so. Considering nakedness isn't appreciated in all situations, it seems pointless to fight for the right to be naked in public. If skin is the issue, why don't we make it illegal for a man to take off his shirt in public? That seems like the rational thing to do. Nobody has to feel unequal this way if it's actually such a problem. Men with their shirts off aren't hurting women. Why should we fight for them to keep th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 10:37 PM
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Like I said, these changes were brought about by the economic landscape and way of living being drastically changed by technology. Definitely some of it. But women still had to fight for rights all along. Argue why the hell in all of recorded history you have no parallel of similar matriarchy/egalitarianism outside of tribes and nomadic peoples. Patriarchy is universally, without a single exception, a feature of every civilization known. Egalitarianism of limited nature only existed under except…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 10:27 PM
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Have you read a good deal of her writing? If not, your comment is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 10:22 PM
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In my youth I was showered with sexual attention when all I REALLY wanted was love, to men having women shower them with that kind of attention would be heaven on earth. Freeing men and women has had the effect of making them project their wants needs and desires on each other and alienating the sexes from each other, in the end In my youth, I was showered with love when all I really wanted was sex. I was just too dumb to fully realize it at the time. Women weren't supposed to just want sex and …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 10:20 PM
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Complaint by very low success female: "I only get asked out once every several months. :(" Complaint by very low success male: "I've been rejected by every girl I've shown interest in. I'm incelibate." That's sad. Although remember that if the only guys contacting the 'unsuccesful female' are wanting sex (and she wants a LTR) that's more depressing for her than not being contacted at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 10:12 PM
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Well you see I'll tell you why I prefer to be a guy. I can change where I am on the SMV graph much more than a woman can. I eat right, I go to the gym, I work hard at getting a good career, I get some interesting hobbies and I'm going to easily get to the top. Whereas if I was a girl and did all that, it wouldn't help out that much. In your experience and in RP theory only. In real life, men like women like that. They're impressed with a woman's career, interested in her hobbies (unless her hobb…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 10:06 PM
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From my own and my friends' experiences on dating sites - women in their 30s and early 40s, yes it's true. It's so much easier for women. We all found good men close to our own ages, or slightly younger. The men contacting you are often very commitment-minded and it's easy for them to get hurt. I was very mindful of that. But I don't think either sex has an upper hand when it comes to finding someone around your own age to have an LTR with. It's just that there are far more men looking for casua…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 09:55 PM
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M-rafay, I don't think you have any idea. Women indeed had to fight for all those things and much more. They didn't just happen at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 07:48 AM
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Christine de Pizan I've read her. She's great.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 07:46 AM
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TRP calls it "swallowing the pill". Have never heard Buddhism described as swallowing the red pill (the zen part that you described, but ok.) That's the reality of it. We still have some of the mating strategies of the chimp, alpha males get replaced, females naturally attract to the strongest one most able to protect them and their children. We're 20,000 years away from our non-human form, and then they were not chimps. But we could have been much closer to being like Bonobos than chimps. Yes, …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 06:57 AM
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It's only fear if you don't accept it. You know that one day your relationship, and even your entire life, will be over. One way or the other, it's going to end. Do you live in constant fear of dying? Or do you just accept it as reality and move on? That's what "taking the red pill" is. It's recognizing and accepting reality. People naturally get angry about it, depressed about it, all those other stages, but none of that changes reality. You sound a lot more zen than TRP. All of what you said i…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 12:57 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 12:44 AM
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Fear and dread are good motivators. They're reality. You work because you fear and dread starvation. You stay healthy because you fear and dread early death. You don't drive 150 mph because you fear and dread getting in a wreck. Fear and dread are realities, the idea that something exists without them is just a happy fantasy. Good points. Those things are pretty much guaranteed to happen though if you don't take care. People aren't guaranteed to cheat on you or trade up for a better model if you…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 12:41 AM
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I've nowhere said I think TRP is just about sex. Actually, I've said a few times that their advice on self-betterment and work strategies are good. For the most part, I don't go by what TRP posters say. I go by TRP theory and the blogs they link to in their sidebar. Those are the things I'm most interested in. I know that individuals don't represent the whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 12:30 AM
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No it doesn't. It specifically calls them out on it. It encourages men to turn that inward and better themselves, because that's all they can change. I agree the stuff about self-betterment is good and solid advice. But the TRP theory in regard to women and relationships is bitter and limiting and tells men to live in fear and dread. Which isn't terrible advice for either gender. Twue wub doesn't exist, and you need to be putting the effort in to keep desire and the relationship alive. True love…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 08:45 PM
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But what if that's reality? What if all men actually had a natural drive to hypergamy? Maybe they don't all follow through with it, but what if that natural drive is there? Wouldn't you want to learn about it so you can understand it and try and frame yourself for the best outcome? Or would you rather stick your head in the dirt and pretend like the world works the way you think it should and keep getting bit by it time and time again? That's a good point. Narrow ways of thinking get you nowhere…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 08:39 PM
0

Good ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 08:20 PM
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People are bitter after being treated a certain way, all people. There exist situations that directly cause bitterness. People don't get cheated on and just say "well can't be mad at them for it", everyone would be bitter and resentful. I agree it's normal to feel bitter and resentful after such an experience. I personally haven't been through it, but I can imagine. But if it happened to me and then I joined a group of women who made me believe 'All Men Are Like This' and that a man will never t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 08:09 PM
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There are people on TRP that are bitter, harsh, and hateful. But you have to understand where some of the men who seek TRP have probably been. They are constantly rejected, or they've been dumped, or they've been in abusive or exploitative relationships, or they've been cheated on, or they've been used, or they've been passed up by other guys who seemingly don't try as hard as them and they are jealous. TRP can't help it if some of these people vent and lash out against women verbally. I underst…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 08:05 PM
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Where do we really draw this line with human decency? What is indecent about nakedness? In our human future, I do see a time where it won't be a crime to be seen completely naked in public. I don't think most people would choose to be completely naked though. It's generally far more practical to wear clothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 07:52 PM
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No. EDIT: I'm not replying to Sir Nemesis's last word in order to allow him to have the last word. I'm nice like that :)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 07:26 PM
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True, which is why I said: (with exceptions - cultural groups, traditionally-minded girls, other individuals etc) Also, tons of women marry and are happy with blue collar workers. These men don't have status or power (they might have the ambition of having their own business one day)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 07:26 PM
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Any man who gave that talk, I'd respect. His emphasis on intimacy and not sex was also important. I'm guessing he meant a life of 'just sex' is empty. Sometimes, you do just want sex - it's a physical thing. You don't always need intimacy. But if we spent our lives just having sex and never loving/being loved then we'd end up half-crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 07:17 PM
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Ok my wrong conclusion on the red pill thing. There is not always another man in the scenario. The woman usually isn't dating men that the 'orbiter' considers to be assholes. The orbiter will pretend to be 'friends' with the woman and when he doesn't get sex, he gets angry. That's it. It's just because he didn't get sex he calls her names, No judgment on him wanting sex, but I will judge him for getting angry when she turned him down. Anecdote alert: EDIT: to take out personal info.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 01:00 PM
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I'll try to talk your language ... beta orbiters? If they're not a thing, why does RP talk about them so much?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 12:01 PM
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Asking female friends for dating advice is not useful if the advice is poor, which is quite clearly, and always is. I didn't say it was useful - in fact, I made no comment on it either way. It's quite a well known modern revelation that modern children get almost nothing from their parents and are raised, primarily, by their peer group, school, and culture. Seriously? If you don't think children rapidly outpace their parents in the modern information age, I mean....I don't even know where to beg…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 08:14 AM
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Let me make it clear because your own analogy was completely flawed: Just because a guy wants sex doesn't mean he isn't a nice guy. And the alternate? Just because a woman wants sex doesn't make her not a nice chick either. Wanting possessions vs wanting intimacy is beyond incomparable. Do you really not understand the difference between "pretending friendship" in order to get something and just "wanting sex"?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 07:52 AM
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Not very supportive right? Feminist blogs, groups and classes are not supportive of guys who are looking for help. Those articles weren't talking about genuinely nice guys. They were talking about guys who pretend to be nice just to get sex, and they when they don't get it, they turn around and call the woman a slut and a whore. The guy was never nice to begin with. If a woman pretends to love a man just to get expensive jewelry, and then doesn't get any jewelry, and she then dumps the man and c…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 07:34 AM
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I really gotta read more on George Orwell's 1984 Best book ever. Glad you got it on the power thing ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 07:08 AM
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That's not blindly seeking power for its own sake. That's about representation. If women mostly ran the world, you might not like to live in it. A world run by men is hard for women to live in and many don't like to live in it. Having equal representation seems the best solution to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 05:08 AM
2

Society doesn't treat attractive people better? Attractive guys don't hookup with attractive gals? Starting in pre-school, kids start creating cool/ athletic /"cute" "handsome" "beautiful"/ joksters - badassess / nerd/ MGTOW-WGTOW(goths/artsy/theater kids), etc... hierarchies. How were these lessons overlooked by TRPers? I'm starting to wonder if TRP is brainwashing them all into believing those truth were hidden from them - by some unknown conspiracy because REASONS!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 04:36 AM
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The reason it gets more flack is simply the feminism is hugely powerful, and TRP is the male opposite of feminism. TRP gets hate from feminism for the same reasons that conservatives hate liberals, it's because it's the other team on the other side who they're competing for power with. TRP would be the last group feminists would be competing for power with - and feminists are not competing for power in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 04:30 AM
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the problem here comes when many men think "treating them well" means supplication, jumping when they call, being afraid of their anger and all kinds of beta behaviors. Men are rarely shown how a MAN treats a women well and maintains attraction Good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 04:26 AM
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Previous discussion of romance novels was often monopolized by feminists who argued that they were created by the patriarchy to train women into wanting gender-traditional relationships, after all. No.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 04:24 AM
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I'm sure finding the process and procedure for neural surgeory is would not be difficult. Why are you not a qualified brain surgeon? We're talking about simple things here - not brain surgery. If it required going to college for years and then specializing for more years just to go on your first date - I'm not sure how anyone ever got together. I don't know how many young men ask their female friends for dating advice, but I'm sure they get a lot of dates through their female friends. You're ass…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 04:05 AM
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I think there might be a big difference in what young women want/expect and what older women want/expect. In terms of young women, I think they: .. expect to work and don't expect men to shoulder all the financial weight. ... like sexually attractive 'hot' men. ... like fun and being with their peer group. ... expect men to treat them well. .... don't expect status, power and ambition in a man unless they desire status, power and ambition for themselves (with exceptions - cultural groups, tradit…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 03:34 AM
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Wouldn't the only way you can tell this be to poll TRP? I don't think anyone can speculate on where TRP men are coming from. And even if you did poll TRP, results are likely to be so mixed it would still be speculation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 01:12 AM
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Claiming this information was easily available because men's health talked about it 14 ,years ago is like me telling you any problem you had in life is inexcusable because it was in Cosmo 14 yrs ago. How did you get that from what I said? Men's Health is just a well known example. This info has been online on lots of men's websites for many years. If you wanna know how to get women, ask women how to get women. I didn't say that at any time. Women don't know how some women behave around men. Do m…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 10:42 PM
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All I see is men lamenting that. Men want good girlfriends and wives and mother's first their children, not sluts. They are being forced to settle for slut by unilateral action of the opposite sex This is true. Lamenting the 'cock carousel' but at the same time lining up and getting on all fours to be a carousel horse.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 06:57 PM
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Thanks for your reply. I agree what you're saying is verifiable.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 06:54 PM
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It was an extremely popular and influential magazine - and that stuff was all online too. But I get your point that manilness-stuff was not (and is not) taught to all boys when growing up and that for certain boys, the messages were negative. While the manliness messages are there in force, they may not be apparent to an individual boy. EDIT: to take out personal info.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 06:50 PM
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Yeah, I can relate. EDIT: to take out personal info.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 06:41 PM
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:)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 06:32 PM
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I meant 'men have needs' in the way of men having sexual needs that need to be met above the need for women's sexual needs to be met. I'm relieved to know this: "Not, I must have sex or he'll cheat." :)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 06:32 PM
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TRP doesn't need its bitter, angry new followers in order to receive flak. Its teachings and the sites it links to are enough. Such as heartiste - a site with a SMV scoring test for men, that takes points off for things like bench pressing less than 60% of your body weight - and takes off one point if you've ever been arrested for child pornography. So, in red pill land, if you hit enough of their positive attributes but you're into child porn, you're a star. Red pill thinking is very, very far …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 06:19 PM
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With so much provable, verifiable sources of information on being masculine and working out - available for fifteen years and longer, you'd have to state where you got your info from. Grew up Quaker, religious, strict parents etc I believe you. I grew up in a strictly religious sphere. I thought you had to be a virgin until you got married, treat your husband well and he'll treat you well - all that stuff. It was all dead wrong. I regret everything. I wasted my young years getting married to a g…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 12:47 PM
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Being masculine was bad. Working out with weights was only for losers and girls didn't like it. Teasing women was offensive for a man to do. Those things have never been the case. Exhibit A. Men's magazines of 14 years ago - which have stayed the same all along. Check any year. If you find a year of this magazine that advised 'being masculine was bad' or 'working with weights is for losers' or 'teasing is offensive' and I'll eat every plate in my kitchen (and video-tape it) It was offensive for …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 12:37 PM
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At age 14, you were probably busy playing games and listening to Linkin Park. EDIT: to take out personal info. Check out these Year 2000 editions of Men's Health: mens health magazine It's all about rock hard abs, keeping fit and healthy. The stuff in these magazines was online and looking like the men on those covers would obviously get you far further with women than any cheesy/clumsy PUA tips. I'm not saying all PUA tips are worthless - but they can't compete with simply looking great.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 12:28 PM
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Let me ask you this: Given these two options, which would you prefer? A) BLUE PILL WAY: Talk to a woman as if pleasing her is the only thing that matters. Agree with everything she has to say, try really hard to get her to like you. Act like she's better than you, speak to her as if she's your superior - do NOT speak to her like she's a teenager. Ask her on a date. B) RED PILL WAY - Speak down to her as if she could be a teenager. Its not meant to treat her like crap, its only meant to increase …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 11:58 AM
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I do think that women are far more illogical than men. Men and women's thought patterns are not that different. Put them to the same task in order to achieve the same outcome, and that would be seen. Their brains are wired slightly differently but not enough to say men are logical thinkers and women are emotional thinkers. Women are more logical than emotional. The biggest differences would be coming from the different experiences of men and women and the different filters because of those exper…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 11:37 AM
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Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 05:05 AM
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Can anyone who is anti-feminism and who is male tell me what feminism has done to you personally? (But none of those "I couldn't get a beautiful woman to be my plate/ wife" or "Women upset me and made me angry and therefore made me into a douchebag" or "I want women to be A,B,C but they insist on being Z,Y, Z' type of responses.) I mean real reasons that are certain and verifiable that are due to feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 04:43 AM
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...the more productive men are punished for excess productivity and denied a legacy and a family, the less they will produce, incentives matter. Are you talking about the end of capitalism?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 03:55 AM
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Sounds right. Probably half of the planning of it would have come from women. They were with the children while the men went out hunting and would have known first hand what was needed to make things easier and safer for the children. They would have realized that growing crops would supply food when the hunt didn't. They would have had more highly developed language skills and would have discussed things more with other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 03:32 AM
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You might be imagining The Walking Dead is what would really happen in a zombie invasion. The apocalypse is happening now in Kobane. Women traditionally form a major part of Kurdish fighting forces and they're fighting ISIS fiercely. http://english.alarabiya.net/en/perspective/2014/10/14/Kurdish-woman-leads-fight-against-ISIS-in-Kobane-.html
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 03:03 AM
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Non-RP men do lots of what RP claim is red pill. It's common stuff - RP just claimed it for themselves (selfish so and so's lol) Let's see: being masculine working out eating well teasing women and making them laugh/ interested in them staying away from needy girls who respond to abusive PUA/alpha-male type tactics (oops, sorry, that one is pure blue pill, not red pill) not taking crap from anyone strategies to get further up the ladder at work more stuff I can't think of right now That's all bl…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 02:55 AM
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I was polite. You don't have to answer it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 02:41 AM
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Feminism is not a constellation of disparate movements and ideologies, but a cultural hatred of masculinity. That is its foundation and source. Tell me what masculinity is and how feminists are obstructing it?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 12:23 AM
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I know what AMH is. A biological clock refers to both the decline in fertility and a person's knowledge of that ticking clock.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 12:01 AM
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Thanks sandman. I read the questions as "a majority of heterosexual sex happens between most women" (which is a contradiction, as sex between women is same-sex) and "only a minority of men" are having heterosexual sex (meaning most men are homosexual).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 11:58 PM
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Sure thing. What would you say the primary motivators of men are-- then, and today? I think back then the primary motivators of men were not beautiful women and eventually a loving wife (as the motivators might be today), but satisfying sexual urges with boys/ men /girls / women and marrying for procreation (not love). As you mentioned 2000 years ago as being the 'olden days' - I'm going to assume you mean the Roman empire. You said: -- but more than any of that, the chance to claim, fuck and de…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 11:51 PM
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Anyways, where do you think feminism went wrong? Was it wrong from the beginning? Which of its achievements do you support, and which do you oppose? Feminism was wrong from the start and probably always will be - in some people's eyes. It was never 'right'. It never can be 'right'. Feminism had its roots in the antislavery movement. It was about fairness for humanity. I will admit that probably the biggest problem of feminism is calling it 'feminism' where people think its all about women and no…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 10:38 PM
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Ack, please read the link in my post: http://www.pnas.org/content/94/16/8380.full
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 09:11 PM
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In whose world? In countries other than western countries? Because in western countries, girls are very attracted to boys their own age.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 09:09 PM
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$25! Eek! Isn't viagra injurious to your health if you have it long term? The advice TRPers give to men about staying healthy is very good and will help them avoid having to take viagra (not in all cases, but hopefully in many).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 09:07 PM
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Isn't it a clock in terms of the best chance of producing a healthy baby?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 09:04 PM
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I don't see any real timer on men the way it is in women. True. For (most) men, it's not a timer. There is still a biological clock in terms of the best chance of producing a healthy baby. I think it stretches beyond reason that any of this applies to a strong RP male. A man who takes care of himself and his career will always come out on top in today's society before 40. Men can definitely keep their sperm healthier. But they can't stop all of the damage that is occurring. It's to do with the w…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 09:02 PM
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You have constrained the issue in such a way as to force your desired conclusion. Or maybe, SMV is a rationalization that makes no sense in the end. I am wanting to know how a man's highest sexual market value can be when he is 38 if there are all the factors I mentioned in my initial post. A 20-something woman wanting the highest chance at a healthy baby would choose a 20-something man and not a 38 year old. It's TRUE that a 20-something woman has a better chance of a healthy baby and good fert…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 08:53 PM
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Sorry if fetishizing RPW has been a thing. I'm new at Reddit. I didn't mean to insult. The desire for men to be captains and make the decisions, and advising other women on how to make their man a better captain (or telling her he won't make a good captain), points to a 'soft D/s' relationship. I said 'soft' which doesn't mean a full-blown D/s relationship but one where you wouldn't even identify as D/s. I am in no way submissive, but I do show respect (deference) towards my husband because I re…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 08:40 PM
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This is a non-issue if you can afford Viagra at $25 per pill. Cialis is about $35. I deliberately didn't mention any artificial means of increasing fertility because if you start that race, women would win it. Knowing that, I didn't start it. An over generalization that is also not true. Some younger women want LTR and know an older man provides the experience, maturity and stability for just that. More and more women in their 20s are asking /r/askmen "What would you do if a younger woman wanted…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 08:32 PM
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Nicely said :)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 08:23 PM
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Ahh semantics. I suppose everybody's wall is ultimately death. lol But is death a wall or a door? (Rhetorical)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 08:21 PM
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Being unable to support a family (and attract and keep a woman) when younger may play a role in this. If they got a good education and worked their butts off until age 28, they'd be in a good position. RP tells men to 'ride the vagina carousel' until age 38 and then start finding a wife (if they want to marry). Part of the rationale is a woman's youth and part of the rationale is that young woman's ability to have healthy babies. But the RP men never mention their own degrading sperm quality - i…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 08:19 PM
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But there are still risks and issues for men. The ability to fertilize isn't the same as the ability to produce healthy children, and half of all infertile couples are infertile due to the man and the risk of a man growing infertile increases with age.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 08:09 PM
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The general age for men is 21 to 35 and for female egg donors its 21 to 30. Sperm quality starts dropping but it isn't as sharp of an increase as that in egg quality. Eggs are taxing on a woman's body, they have majority of the material needed for conception to take place and sustain the foetus. This is why men can have kids well into their forties as opposed to women, its why men can don't undergo menopause while women do. Eggs are expensive and taxing but sperm isn't. And women have a limited …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 08:04 PM
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So can women tell the difference between a 20-something male and a 30-something male. The only wall for women is a biological one when she reaches around the age of 40 and her fertility goes into sharp decline. Anecdote alert: I haven't seen any issue for single women in their 30s and 40s that i know in finding SOs and husbands that they are very happy with. I still hold that the wall at age 30 as far as women finding a husband is an RP invention and doesn't reflect the real world. What men seek…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 08:00 PM
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Do redpillers think that a majority of heterosexual sex happens between most women but only a small minority of men? I'm having trouble understanding the OP question.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 07:30 PM
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Men do mind sharing. What do TRPers imagine their 'plates' are doing what they're not around? Looking at beautiful rainbows?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 11:22 AM
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Women don't have a wall. It's a TRP invention.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 11:17 AM
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Oh okay. Just wanted to say that trp is not saying "slack off and just wait until you are 38...man, your SMV will skyrocket! You don't even have to do anything!" I didn't want to say trp is only about self-improvement. I wanted to point out the above. That's good, solid advice. For men and women. 'Cept for the SMV thing. It's icky.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 11:16 AM
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Young women prefer young men. Older women prefer older men. Young men prefer young women. Older men prefer young women. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2751179/Are-girl-22-Then-don-t-bother-online-dating-Alarming-graph-shows-ages-attractive-opposite-sex.html Sorry, what people prefer is irrelevant. What they actually get is relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 11:14 AM
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What holla2cents said is what I meant in my initial post. Not biological programming, but their ability to reproduce (if they want children) - and further to that, their ability to produce healthy children.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 11:09 AM
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Sperm quality starts dropping off for men after puberty. After age 34 there's a sharp decrease in sperm quality of men. Most sperm donor clinics require men to be between age 18-35. Only in places they're desperate for donations will they raise the age.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 11:06 AM
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I get your point and 'biological clock' isn't a great term, but one that is widely understood. (Except it seems by most TRPers)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 10:59 AM
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It isn't as strong. While sperm quality will decrease men can still have children into their 50s. Women don't have that option. I said "almost" as strong. A few men remain fertile until they die at age 100. But the ability to have babies and the ability to produce healthy babies and not adversely the human genome are two different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 10:56 AM
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I know the statistical risks and issues for older women and their babies. That's why I'm asking this whole question. Men often say they look for younger women in terms of having children because they are more fertile and pose less risk for abnormalities in babies. But men often don't seem to count themselves in these risks or issues. If men are truly looking to lessen the issues and risks, why aren't they looking at themselves as well and deciding to have babies when they're young? There is rese…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 10:53 AM
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You got me!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 09:10 AM
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I'd wager most men 2000 years ago wanted what most men want today: prosperity, survival, the opportunity to follow their passions and hobbies, to raise a solid family -- but more than any of that, and especially in his younger years -- the chance to claim, fuck and defile a beautiful woman or ten. I'd like to take that wager.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 08:51 AM
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My comment wasn't racist. My language isn't passive-aggressive but you're right, it is shaming, and I don't apologize for that. I own my statements. And I'm pawning it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 08:36 AM
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How can a question be the wrong one? Because it doesn't allow you to cut and paste RP teachings? I was looking for some independent thought. The terms of the discussion is "biological clock" That means something that is biological. Not what we prefer or rationalize. I think men's biological clock is almost as strong as women's. I started a 'change my view' discussion on that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 08:33 AM
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I'm being direct, not passive-aggressive. Passive-aggressive would be a lot nicer. As for the points you're making, if you're not happy with my discussion, why not put it up for general discussion - either on purple pill or red pill men?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 07:18 AM
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That being said, my point was not that feminism preys on this mindset because they also blame men for women being shitty; I was insinuating that women preys on men being divisive and taking advantage of male maxims that propose females as infantalized individuals. I'm trying to understand the above quote. Do you mean that RP male theory holds that women are like children and that women take advantage of that? I can't comment on Oprah as I don't watch it. But from what you said - sounds wrong to …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 07:14 AM
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I'm going to answer my own question. The reason you don't go and live in a country where you can legally hit women is because you like the kind of society better where you live. And I'm very glad for women who live in those places that you don't move there - they have more than enough to deal with as it is,
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 06:41 AM
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RP is completely sidestepping the question and repeating RP rhetoric. I asked: "What does a man aged over 38 have to offer in reproductive terms? (Purely reproductive terms - his sperm and reproductive parts as opposed to a 20-something male's sperm and reproductive parts) Why should a woman of 24 who wishes to have children marry a man of that age rather than someone her own age?" Anecdotes about men getting young women doesn't apply (and the marriage data bears out that women commonly marry a …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 06:08 AM
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What makes you think that's not currently a reality for a man? We're talking about the domestic scene. You wanted the law to give you the ability to beat up women if you felt they warranted it. Some gay men, yes, live with that threat every day. But many more women live with a man who either threatens violence or carries out violence on her. And the threat is there every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 06:04 AM
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This is the kind of behavior that allows women to continue acting like this and not be held to any sort of standard in our culture and it's part of the reason feminism is so successful in dismantling and destroying men and masculinity; by leveraging concepts of female infantalism and victimhood complex which men allow them to have. No, feminism would not hold that a 'faulty' man is the cause of his wife/ girlfriend's cheating. Holding that a woman cheats because her guy is not alpha enough is a …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 05:02 AM
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Reasonable well-meaning men I'm sure. Can you agree that currently the laws are in need of revision for the sake of equality? Laws can generally be improved and yes for the sake of the best interests of men and women. Do you fear a man who is capable of defending himself? Do you fear someone who is a foot taller and much, much stronger than you beating you up? Just because you said something they didn't like?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 04:49 AM
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Thanks for pointing that out. I didn't phrase it well. I meant purely in terms of reproductive capability and sperm quality. I had the words reproductive terms there but needed to narrow it down. Have edited for clarity.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 04:01 AM
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I didn't throw it around. I said it in response to a quiz that mentioned IQ. And I actually didn't give my score, except to say it was above 145, and so how is your conversion relevant? EDIT: to take out personal info.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 02:54 AM
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The RPW ladies are spot on? Even if it's about having sex with your husband so he doesn't cheat? Sorry, I'm having trouble with understanding that side of things. No problem if you've had enough and don't want to reply, but having sex so that someone doesn't cheat is terrible advice and often doesn't work - because the cheating person is sometimes looking for excitement and variety and something completely new, which a SO can't provide.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 02:42 AM
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I agree that's a healthy position to take. Yes, the other position is disturbing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 02:38 AM
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How can a man who is red pill (alpha) be red pill if his wife acts in this way?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 02:37 AM
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A man does not, and should not have to resort to beating a woman, as this power would naturally be feared and respected if it wasn't illegal to retaliate against and govern bitch behavior(shit-tests) with physical dominance. (Contrary to immediate fears that if this were made legal, that this will lead to a spike in rapes and assaults, guess again. Women would actually start viewing men as desirable across the board if they knew men could hold them accountable for their abusive behaviors, and me…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 02:31 AM
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Eh? South American women are often much louder and demanding than their husbands. I think male headship in a lot of South America is a thing that isn't actually a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 02:06 AM
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I think RPW are more 'men have needs' and Natalie is more about understanding her husband as a person. Again, I could be wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 02:01 AM
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A text smilie is just not satisfying :(
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 01:59 AM
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You being a feminist probably explains why I understand your take on 'never saying no' and not the other explanations. Yes, your take doesn't have anything to do with submission (as far as I can tell from what I've read.)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 01:58 AM
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You're welcome :)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/14 08:52 PM
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I've seen you in TRP - having the username that you do in a forum of all men made me think you were. I've seen usernames such as 'heterosexual red pill male' and thought they were differentiating themselves from the gay men in TRP. In conclusion: I'm new here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/14 08:52 PM
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Because telling them what their husbands "should" be doing isn't helpful. The sub is all about what these women can do to improve things. I'm trying to think of a different way to put this. I've said this at least 5 times and I appreciate that you are making an honest effort. But I'm not sure how else to explain it. You misunderstand me. I mean, what does a woman do if she's horny as heck? How does she manage it? How does she satisfy herself without making her husband feel bad and while helping …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/14 08:49 PM
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That advice is good from that website. I'm not sure about No. 10. I don't have enough information to know that 'most relationships can be saved'. Instinct tells me no but instinct isn't data. You're right that the 'What if's' don't matter in regard to RPW. I realized something last night. These women are 'soft' submissives wanting to be in a soft D/s relationship. You telling me that RPW are advising other women on how their man can be a better captain or won't be a good captain confirms it. I d…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/14 08:38 PM
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No, it doesn't diminish your sexuality. Working to make each other happy is a good thing. I'm just not seeing enough importance placed on the woman's sexuality. Why can't there be both?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/14 08:21 PM
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Cattell - by Mensa. I place no importance or overall validity to it. No degrees - I got married and started having kids very young. Which was pretty dumb on my part.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/14 08:19 PM
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Why do you keep making up the part where there's no high arousal or orgasm? I always have orgasms and am always highly aroused when we do it. You're still putting a big assumption in there. You still seem to picture a scene where the husband orders to woman to bed, pounds her and leaves I'm not getting a bad picture of the husband's input at all. From RPW and other 'surrendered wife' type blogs around the internet, I'm seeing some women say it's nice after it gets started and some that say they …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/14 08:16 PM
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Maybe. We all have to filter the messages coming at us and work out what makes sense to us and what doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/14 08:10 PM
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Because we don't live in a society where you can simply say "I divorce you" three times and be done with it, but actually have to deal with loads of fallout? Or because they still love their partners (in these cases, probably more than the inverse)? Sorry, there needs to be a snark smilie on reddit. I keep seeing TRP men say "Why doesn't she just leave him?" when a husband is abusive toward a wife. It's not a simple, easy thing, and I totally agree with what you said.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/14 08:09 PM
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I didn't say men were not wary, but if women, by and large, had sex with everyone, the STDs would affect the future of he human race. The desire for sex and variety is the same in women as in men, hence same sexual motivation. Yes men and women are different as women carry the wombs and are tasked with keeping those wombs healthy. Men also, have a motivation in keeping women's wombs remaining healthy - else the human race would die out, but just not as direct a motivation.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/14 08:03 PM
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Okay, good points and understood. I agree the stuff on redpill about self improvement is solid advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/14 07:55 PM
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Women largely do share men's motivations. If women could be assured that they wouldn't get diseases that would harm their body (and therefore their wombs and future chances at healthy children ) women in general would stop holding back. A condom is not a guarantee. If women shared men's motivations the world would be a giant orgy. True. And then humans would die out from the spread of sexual disease.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/14 11:30 AM
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As a man, you should go blue if you like being pegged, either physically or emotionally. Idk why they don't have a brochure on that. You're gay but you don't like the kind of things that gays normally do in a relationship? Just curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/14 11:21 AM
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A lot of your post is good. Excuse my nitpicking. So, if you're not a red pill man, you do this?: Grovelling, begging, orbiting That's flat out wrong. I see men who identify as blue pill as being far more masculine than TRP men. TRPers (from what I read of their sidebar and blogs) seem far more lost and struggling to make sense of their lives and themselves as men. So I think that trp is getting this very right and men developing a good "brotherhood" is important especially in a society where me…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/14 11:06 AM
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People get incensed at girls being married to their rapists in some religious areas. Rape culture! When it's more like the poor lad gave into passion and is now on the hook for the rest of his life. And his mother would be angry at the young vixen who spoiled her dreams for her son. You're kind of scary.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/14 10:43 AM
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I agree that the advice of not refusing your husband is long-standing and common. It's awful advice. When I was very young and had just had my first baby, a female neighbor asked me if I'd 'got back on the wagon' with my husband yet. I told her, "Straight after an episiotomy? No freaking way!" She said that "if I don't have sex with him , he'll stray." and went on to tell me that women need to have sex often with their husbands to stop them from doing this very thing. I told her I didn't give a …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/14 10:39 AM
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Wow at all the men whose 'amoral' code of sexual strategy changes fast when challenged by the violence of another guy. Men only do shitty stuff to women because women let them? Men fear the wrath of other men but not the wrath of women? Okay, I know this is off-topic but it's pretty sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/14 10:24 AM
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Better way of putting it, it doesn't allow you to be absolved of your actions by other people just because you say your actions are "amoral" Yep :)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/14 10:04 AM
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Do you believe the bulk of men find an iq that high (and the personality traits that attend it) "attractive" in a women. What personality traits attend it? I don't believe most men would care. And if it could be proven they did - I wouldn't care. Seems that men with an IQ over 145 also get negative points. Oh boy.... I just read quite a bit of heartiste. It was good for a giggle :)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/14 10:00 AM
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My spontaneous sex drive is lower than my H, especially at my age and after 11 years, but my RESPONSIVE sex drive is still through the roof. There could be a reason your spontaneous sex drive is lessening. And it could be because your subconscious brain is thinking, "Oh yeah, sex, great when it gets started but it's not something that's really for me. It's for him."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/14 07:58 AM
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Yeah, it's weird. And they also don't seem to realize that we are doing "Never say No" of our own accord. It is our choice and no one is forcing us to do this. We realize this - the women are willing. We're not imagining an asshole guy. To speak for myself, I'm imagining a woman who isn't placing enough importance on her own sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/14 07:52 AM
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Saying the idea you follow is amoral doesn't absolve one from morality. It pretty much does. All morality is a human construct.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/14 07:47 AM
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That is the crux, right there. Most, if not all, husbands who complain about the lack of sex in their marriage do not live with such assurances. The biggest surprise they have to look forward to is knowing that, at some point, their wife won't manage a way to shoot them down. Surprise! Happy birthday! lol /s Why do they stay with such women?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/14 07:31 AM
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Just take a good look at that woman in the video in the link. A random woman on the internet can't speak for all women. Anecdotal. Pass.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/14 07:29 AM
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Okay, Mistress Natalie, that's a lightbulb moment for me. Maybe, in that post, you just explained what I'm finding so damned hard to understand. Part of the reason that this was so revolutionary for me was that I didn't really consider my husband's need for sex as important as other things that were going on. omg yes, is that what RPW are saying? You didn't realize how much your SO wanted and needed sex? Okay, I think I'm on a level playing field now. I totally understand another person's need f…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/14 07:08 AM
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Thanks for your reply. It's appreciated. I hope you won't take this personally either, as I certainly didn't take your reply in that way. I said: What if you had a really tough day with the kids and your job and you're at the end of your rope? What if the thought of sex right now really turns you off? And you said: Nothing wrong with a BJ if there's something wrong with your va-jay-jay. I can't compute that. Every program I try to fit it into spits out the same answer. They don't give advice to …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/14 06:48 AM
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(Pedophiles are) are people with sexual attractions most people would consider repulsive; that does not make them not human beings. Lots of pedophiles are contributing members of society that can keep their urges in check. This is true. I think we need another word other than pedophile to describe people who sexually harm children. I don't think most people know that many pedophiles will never hurt a child. Many people who are not pedophiles sexually harm children. I'm curious how such extremist…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/14 01:44 AM
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Why? Because he's sexy as. The description reminds me of my SO. I find this kind of guy the most attractive of all because their masculinity and personality just "is". They're not reading up on how to be masculine and they don't care about that stuff anyway. They often can't tell you what feminism is all about because they've never read any of that stuff either. They're just out there "doing" and are happy in their world. They don't define themselves by women (by how many women they've slept wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 11:46 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 11:29 PM
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If the perpetrator said it to my face, I might well have a brain snap and hurt/kill him. I can't claim that isn't possible - I'm human and that would be a very confronting situation. If I caught him in the act - I'd be violent. Very. If I have time to plan, rather than seek revenge, I'd try my best to ensure that he/she didn't do that thing to anyone else and so that my daughter understood that I cared and I was angry about what happened to her. I wouldn't let it go - it's not in my nature. I've…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 11:25 PM
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I thought red pill sexual strategy is amoral? Serious question.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 11:10 PM
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Interesting. I want a soft harem too. But only if my guy can be cloned, as I only want him. And then when he doesn't feel it, another clone of him might be ready to go.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 11:06 PM
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Ah, I've read quite a bit of that stuff. I haven't seen Heartiste so will read - thank you. I just had a quick look and saw the the Dating Market test. My IQ is way over 145. That is a negative? Sheesh. I think I'm going to have fun reading this site :)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 10:59 PM
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omg, how is her son irrelevant? No point having a 'solid' 'never say no' marriage if your kids are growing up wrong. It's bad advice if you have to look after your husband to the degree you neglect your children. And if your kids act the way her son did, that has to affect you and your husband's well being and happiness (unless you're made of stone).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 10:54 PM
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Male and female sexual strategies are not mutually compatible. Only in the red pill world. In the real world, they are compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 10:46 PM
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Good find, Aerobus. Very interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 10:33 PM
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Dr Laura has one child - a son. It doesn't sound like her ideas are healthy. She might have fed and cared for her husband to the point she didn't concentrate enough on her son. At one point, her adult son was investigated for an online page of his filled with: ...cartoon depictions of rape, murder, torture, and child molestation; photographs of soldiers with guns in their mouths; a photograph of a bound and blindfolded detainee captioned ‘My Sweet Little Habib;’ accounts of illicit drug use; and…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 10:29 PM
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What are the primary "red pill sources"?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 09:11 PM
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Sometimes "shit happens" lol :) :)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 09:09 PM
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I don't feel like the conversation that was posted here is a fair summary of that thread or the subject in general. I didn't see anyone saying it was about husbands forcing their wives to have sex. The wives were more than willing. Here's my try at a BP/RPW on this subject: RPW: I never say no to sex. BP: Never? But what if you're in pain? Sick? RPW: My husband wouldn't initiate in those circumstances. BP: What if he doesn't know? What if you were too dry last time and are sore? What if it's jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 08:40 PM
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Unless your man's tongue just sits there hanging out drooly all the time (which I'd imagine is quite possible to be a match for you) then yes, as opposed to a hole, which doesn't take any muscular action to remain a hole. Seriously- you can google this stuff, it doesn't even take lower level A&P knowledge. (Mmmm 'drooly tongue man'...) A vagina needs action to make it function well for sex. Therefore it is a tool. A penis is a nice tool to have but it isn't essential for a woman's orgasm. He cou…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 12:03 PM
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That's exactly how I feel about it and handle it. Please say it isn't so. You never poop when your man is around the house? Not to turn this discussion into a poop discussion, but have you ever had explosive diarrhea?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 10:40 AM
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Still requires movements/action, toots. Reach back into your bag of snark and try again. 'Toots' - that's funny. Are you 80? (snark snicketty snark) So you imagine a tongue is a tool but not a vagina???!!! Way to be misinformed. If a vagina is not a tool but just a hole, why do men desire it so much? May as well stick the penis in a plum pie. An aroused vagina engorges, making it far more pleasurable for the man. The uterus rises in the abdomen, making the vagina longer and better able to accomm…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 07:26 AM
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Or perhaps it's different because women don't actually have to do anything other than show up. Of course it's better when the woman is more active but that doesn't make it required. But men also could just 'show up'. If their penis isn't working, men don't have to do anything but give their woman oral. It would be better if the man was more active, but it isn't required in order to give her an orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 03:43 AM
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Really the only answer is to expose TBP/SRS/SJWs/Gender Feminists for what they really are first before a real discussion on equality can take place. We must show their hypocrisy to the world so their professional victim tactics will no longer be considered valid in modern discourse. Now I really, really want your idea to happen. It's a real catch 22 that these monsters have been able to gain so much control over the narrative in the media. Shunning them makes me look like I'm not an equalist, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 03:38 AM
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Great insight to the 'other side' of the debate, Cuittler. I'm even more confused on RP philosophy on LTR sex now.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 02:24 AM
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That's good there's no negative effects on your sex drive. Thanks for your answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 02:14 AM
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Guilty as charged on my 'surely-ness' :)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 02:13 AM
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You are all about the poop, aren't you? :)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 02:12 AM
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You know, this sort of confuses me. It gives me the impression that male TRPers never, ever turn down sex. Otherwise, this would make sense to them. The bf and I have a very healthy sex life, but it's not like he doesn't turn me down on occasion. In fact, my sex drive is higher than his, pretty significantly. I've been turned down because he had class in the morning and needed to go to bed early, I've been turned down because he was feeling head-achey, I've been turned down because he had work t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 02:10 AM
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I'm assuming RPW aren't with guys that care about them pooping. Unless they're Melissa Gorga: Girls don’t poop. Me, never have. Never will. It just doesn’t happen. Or, that’s what Joe thinks! We’ve been married for nine years, and he has never once seen or smelled my business. How have I pulled this off? I don’t do it when he’s around or awake. In an emergency, I have my ways of pooping so he won’t hear, smell, or see. It’s a challenge.” – Melissa Gorga, Love Italian Style: The Secrets of My Hot…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 02:05 AM
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But if I'm not fucking him, there is no one else he can screw. And that is a responsibility I take seriously. I hope it's ok to reply to this. I was an admin of a large forum for years, and there was a very busy relationship forum there. Women were often saying they didn't understand why their guy cheated, as they themselves had a high sex drive and thought their sex life was good. I don't think it's as simple a matter as 'Plug A goes into Slot B' and all is well. People cheat for many different…
/r/RedPillWomen01/12/14 11:24 PM
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But you don't want to be a 29 year old doctor looking for a male doctor when he's simply going to attract a hot 22 year old and get her instead of you. Men don't really care about a woman's job. We care about her youth, beauty, femininity, etc. Almost half of female doctors marry male doctors. When you say 'we', you're obviously talking about yourself.
/r/RedPillWomen01/12/14 11:09 PM
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The PUAs are getting exactly what they want - from men. They're treating men like whores and taking everything from them that they can - every last cent. I'm sure they find it hilarious that men will say 'shut up and take my money' and throw thousands at the instructors. Hmm, do you know how much money RSD rakes in? Buttloads of money. They target underconfident, angry men, especially men who resent women. That's why they throw in lots of stuff about 'whores' to satisfy resentful men. Even if me…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 09:32 PM
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You can twist those words to mean that but you're attacking a demon of the media's creation and not the man. No, I'm discussing his words. I'm afraid that no women worship him. Only men worship him. Women have copied his conversations with them on Tinder and put those conversations online. It shows him asking girls for sex and if they ignore him, he calls them bitches and whores. He commonly says his sister was raped or that he is at the funeral of his father etc - trying to get women to feel so…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 08:57 PM
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I like that idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 08:33 PM
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They could have their own island and call it Sexbotica ;) Seriously, LTR-minded TRPers say they want a captain/co-pilot marriage. The 1950s proved that that type of relationship didn't make them happy. When women in general modeled themselves on the captain/co-pilot thing in the 1950s, men often cheated. (In the early 1950s, a Kinsey sex report stated that 50 percent of men in the U.S. cheated on their wives.)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 08:16 PM
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I'm getting the strong impression that TRPers (from various threads) want women who have no idea what TRP is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 09:33 AM
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Not in my experience. I've seen lots of sons of feminist single-mothers who had fearful sons yet strong (some a little too strong) daughters. I've watched these kids grow up and then have kids of their own. There different streams of feminism but the only one that makes any sense is the one that seeks the best for men as well as women. Those kind of mothers will want the very best for their sons as well as their daughters.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 09:30 AM
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You're ignoring him saying, "If you’re a white male in Tokyo, you can do what you want." He's telling men to do whatever they want sexually to women. He made his advice everybody's business. Absolutely everyone's business. If I made a video advocating for women to kick guys in the crotch, and I had guys on video taking it, it doesn't change the fact I'm saying to kick guys in the crotch, right? I might laugh as I say to kick so hard you cause testicular torsion, and claim it's a joke, but if I h…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 09:19 AM
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Why do you ask questions based on patently false assumptions? Oh right, to troll. So, it's a false assumption that TRP would see things posted at Illimitable men and ROK as in line with TRP philosophy? Interesting way to characterize the wisdom of ages. There was no birth control, feminism, cock carousel, etc in those days though. But nice try. I'm talking about now. Right now. Women are being treated as sub-human to an extent in certain countries, right at this moment. I've seen TRPers saying t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 09:02 AM
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^ This. I don't think of men as low or high value, but in terms of overall attractiveness. A man such as the above is very unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 12:01 AM
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No comment on whether men or women are more intelligent, but in regard to standardized tests, there is a lot of controversy that they are weighted toward males. School grades on the other hand, seem unfairly weighted toward female students. http://www.fairtest.org/facts/genderbias.htm
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/14 11:58 PM
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It does make sense that men from single mothers might need RP more since they have mostly only had female input in their lives (be nice, don't make waves, sit still, be quiet) It's wrong to think women are all about sitting still, not making waves and being quiet. A non-feminist woman might be like this. But a feminist woman will raise strong boys. I was a single mother for years. We used to spend most of our spare time at the beach - body boarding, making dams in creeks with rocks, making tree …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/14 11:44 PM
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My eldest two boys were largely raised with me as a single parent. They like fairly dangerous activities - surfing where few others would dare go/ dirt bikes on mountain tracks etc. But they're in no way dominant or aggressive. They're happy, well-adjusted and doing brilliantly in life. I had clear boundaries, didn't believe in smacking, rumbled on the floor with them (still do!) and expected them to set goals and meet them. Most of my boys' friends are from 2-parent families - and there are a l…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/14 11:33 PM
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Men who act dominant toward women are not hot or sexy. Women developed sex drives / well-developed orgasm systems for a reason. Women wouldn't have these if all they needed in a man was dominance. She wants a man who will co-operate with her and make sex enjoyable. A man who only seeks to dominate and only look after his own needs isn't going to give her that experience. Women want nice guys - in the true sense, not in the wimp/ needy sense. And men don't like wimpy / needy women either, right? …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/14 11:13 PM
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Women won't kill you or rape you because you say something that's anti-feminist. No one will arrest you or put you in jail. On the other hand, it's dangerous for women to speak up for feminist beliefs and always has been. Look at the avalanche of rape and death threats leveled against women speaking up for women in the game industry. Yet, women still speak their minds at personal risk to themselves. What are you afraid of?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/14 10:52 PM
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TRP isn't a polished idealogy, nor a science publication. It's a subreddit. People are going to be angry and vent there. People are going to say things that get upvoted just because they are angry at the 'right' people. Then why are the same things said on the blogs of the male TRP 'thought leaders' that you guys look up to? Are they all angry men without much of a clue, too? It's very easy to hold beliefs that society has already developed, polished and laid out for you... hammered into you, re…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/14 10:40 PM
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In history, it can be readily argued that men were the more prominent sex in regards to changing history. Yes. Afterall, the most ignored but obvious fact of history isn't names of preseidents or assasinations of this or that person, it's that humankind conquered the earth over all other animals, bar none. A great deal of this conquering wasn't good or smart. We destroyed so much that we almost obliterated ourselves and made all the animals extinct. Thank god for the hippies of the 60s who stopp…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/14 09:03 PM
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Why is all the hate directed toward feminists? They called him out, but you're all ignoring the fact that men in general were just as p'd off at Julien's actions. This is a reaction from a male in Japan in response to Julien saying, "If you’re a white male in Tokyo, you can do what you want." and all the other shitty stuff he did. http://www.japantimes.co.jp/community/2014/11/05/voices/lets-ensure-happy-returns-japan-vile-dating-coach/#.VHt0rvQW18E (And you can see the responses from other men a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/14 07:54 PM
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Once women are familiar with TRP philosophy, there is no way you can keep it under the surface. Unless you constantly lie and deny your beliefs, including throughout your relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/14 01:36 AM
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I'm astounded by the TRP in this thread claiming attitudes from men in regard to promiscuous women is on a instinctual, evolutionary biology' level while completely ignoring the whole picture. Human beings are fragile, sexually. Diseases are spread far and wide through sex. Unchecked, these diseases kill/ send you insane and affect the ability of a woman to carry a child to full term or for that child to be healthy. If every man roamed about spreading their seed far and wide in times gone past, …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/14 01:05 AM
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Just what I thought. Where are all the "we're lions, beasts, studs, alphas, return of kings, don't care what anything one else thinks" guys now?? Hiding? Instead, why don't you stand up and speak your beliefs - on youtube if not TV. Are you afraid your mothers will box your ears if they hear what you have to say?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/14 12:17 AM
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Wow - that's from just the last couple of days? I see RP men in the comments are agreeing with the statements. Okay then, Red pill men - how many of you are willing to stand up on TV and speak these beliefs publicly? You'll get exactly what you want - the ability to spread your beliefs to all the men out there. If you truly believe this stuff and you're as alpha as you say you are, are you willing to stand up? Let's get this organized.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/14 07:22 AM
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I did read the caveman thread and comments. In the realm of human sexuality, there are rare people who desire rough, 'abusive' sex and being told what to do. This might describe the man's girlfriend or might not. Impossible to tell without her in the thread giving her side. But, from what I remember, the caveman thread was advocating for men having sex in this way with women, because that's what they like. If a boyfriend/husband were to do that to me, I'd punch his caveman head in, and would end…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/14 09:41 PM
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I'm going to be blunt. You've got a long way to go yet. It seems that TRP didn't teach you something that's essential for your life. And that is not to play the blame game. You can blame your mother. You can blame society. You can blame a lot of things. But in the end, blame is a needy, whiny sort of thing that can only have a negative impact on your life. Being strong in yourself and taking responsibility for your life is the only way to go forward. Your example is of a brother and a sister. Wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/14 08:45 PM
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Isn't a sexual partner someone you have sex with? Even if it's just one night?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/14 08:17 PM
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The idea is getting spread around. I saw mention of it on a popular (general interest) Facebook page and looked it up. If RP philosophy was just about the things mentioned in your post (self-improvement) then no, nobody could tell. But it's the beliefs about women that are identifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/14 08:08 PM
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I'm confused by the comments about feminism here. Is the assemblyman who introduced this bill the head of some kind of feminist group? I don't know if the full context is being reported in that article, but on the face of it, such a law seems way too open to abuse. You can't have a law for every type of stupidity that's out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/14 10:21 AM
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You're saying that people avoid having a promiscuous person as a sexual partner? And so men will avoid having sex with an attractive woman because she's promiscuous? Interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/14 10:05 AM
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What men still don't get is that most women who are looking for a fun night love sex. They're not looking for the top 20% of men. They're looking for someone who looks like he can give her a good time. Someone with a good body who is funny and who makes her laugh, and who she also feels safe with. And sometimes they pick the quiet, cute ones. I've been out with many, many different groups of women and I've heard and seen a lot. Single women/married women ... Myself, I can't pick who a woman frie…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/14 09:51 AM
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And if you didn't hear her say that, you'd just be hearing your friend say that he hooked up with the woman as though it was some accomplishment on his part. And the misinformation cycle continues...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/14 09:23 AM
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Feminism is an elitist ideology. Anyone care to challenge my view? Feminists can have blinkers on, just like anyone else. Yes it's true that some white feminists need to check their privileges. But the entire movement cannot be called an elitist ideology. There are lots of feminists in developing/ non-white countries. Are they elitist? Or just angry at the injustices imposed on them because they're women? What I'm getting at is: despite its pretensions, feminism is not an ideology for all women.…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/14 05:17 AM
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I'm afraid you won't get men to admit that lots of good looking women go out for the express purpose of bringing someone home to sleep with. They just won't. Or, certain men are not aware of it because the women don't choose them. In conclusion, women know things about women that men don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/14 03:49 AM
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If a man has women hanging off him, I'd consider that he's been going out of his way to attract them. I'd see him as a guy who's going to want the attention of women his whole life. I want a guy with interests other than women - someone well-rounded and well, interesting. If a guy has a high partner count, I wouldn't judge, but if he also has women hanging off him ... Next!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/14 03:36 AM
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If a woman was familiar with red pill philosophy, there is no way she wouldn't be able to tell a guy who has subscribed to that philosophy from another who's never heard of it (no matter how 'alpha' he may be). I guarantee it. But - all the following things sound like good, positive changes, so why does it matter?: I'm confident in social situations, I workout, I meditate, I set goals and I read books that I would have never thought of reading before. I also have options when it comes to women. …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/14 03:08 AM
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Yes. Both men and women do this in regard to women. It says everything about the person. They're scared they can't control the choices of another person and so they lash out. People who put other people down in this way are always scared deep inside, period. No. Your personal preference is your personal preference. No. Your personal preference is your personal preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/14 09:41 PM
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What if I told you that lots of women actually go out looking for a fun night (i.e sex) and they're not so much looking for the most attractive guys but for variety and a guy who makes them laugh. Of course, many women are not open about this fact. But it's common. Any woman who has gone out with lots of different groups of women to nightclubs can tell you this. You can try your best flirty moves, but she's probably already decided whether or not she's going to take you home. I'm afraid the men …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/14 12:45 PM
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A subset of women like 'alpha' males. The evidence for this has been clear for a long time. Exhibit A - romance novels that predominantly feature rugged alpha males have been popular for oh, half a century. You don't need to take a red pill to see the truth in that. Another subset of women dislike 'alpha' males or refuse to recognize the concept of alpha and beta males. They mostly want a man who shares their interests in life. 'Be yourself" works for this group of women. A small subset of women…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/14 11:37 AM
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There are a percentage of sociopaths and psychopaths out there that cannot be told "don't rape" - because they don't care. Men, in general, are not to blame for the actions of sociopaths. They can't do anything to change the behavior patterns of men that are totally unlike themselves. The men that rape that are not sociopaths commit rape because of entitlement. They feel entitled to take what isn't theirs. These men are far more likely to steal or commit other crimes. Where I see the RP philosop…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/14 12:34 AM
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Theories like the wall, SMP, hypergamy, cock carousel, hamster, and the Feminine Imperative, etc. will be common knowledge, though likely not in name. Those trains of thought have been around forever. They've just been given different names. Except perhaps for hypergamy - I'm not sure that hypergamy has ever been a thing before. The idea used to be that men had a problem with monogamy but that women would stay happily married to the one man for the rest of their lives. RP philosophy turns this o…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/14 11:34 PM
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One of the reasons that a small subset of men grow angry at the sight of a woman with piercings and tattoos is that they see body decorations as a signal that the woman is doing what she wants rather than doing all she can to secure a husband. A man like this will think that if more and more young women wear body decorations, that means more and more women are doing what they want, and less and less women are available to him as a potential wife. If he's already married, he might just be angry a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/14 10:43 PM
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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