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Ok I'm making one more thread and 36 hours after doing the same. I'm saving what's important and deleting my account, starting a new one. This is it. You and me are free my friend!!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/14 02:06 PM
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counterargument +1
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/14 02:05 PM
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Which is why Ghandi organized a violent militia to take on the british authority and subsequently wiped them out on their terms of conflict right?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/14 02:03 PM
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Not only that but it comes across to me as ironically misogynistic. By telling a woman that what she wants is bad and wrong you're basically assuming agency over her sexuality in your quest to be a super politically correct white knight pussy, are you not? I hold almost as much issue with feminists with this sort of attitude as I do with straight up run of the mill misogynists, if your politics insists that there are some people who have too little self awareness, or are too ignorant or stupid t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/14 03:35 PM
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My dick is shrinking in fear at how alpha you are, talking smack about the marginally attractive girl you totes got to obsess over you while you make fun of her on reddit. I only aspire to be able to one day have sex with someone I consider marginally attractive and laugh at their expense behind their back, and brag about occasionally having sex with more attractive people. I'm currently just too beta to brag about how someone I consider marginally attractive is more into me than I into them, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/14 06:03 PM
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Think about it this way. I dated a fatty a while back. She was by all accounts the perfect plate/girlfriend. She was smart, demure, sweet, accommodating, and loved her some OmegaRed. This is the most alpha thing I've ever heard, I wish I could spin plates by faking commitment with someone I find marginally desirable when it's convenient to do so, then dump them once I find out how to score some moderately attractive drunk 19 year olds at house parties
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/14 05:24 PM
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There's no point in continuing to engage someone when all their ideas are found on a bunch of assumptions they take for granted and aren't willing to let go of for the sake of debate
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 04:52 PM
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Why do you define a high self esteem person as someone who valuates themselves by their sexual attractiveness? Men and women who fixate on how attractive they are tend to be dealing with self esteem issues
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 04:48 PM
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There have been multiple occasions where endorsed and unendorsed RP members have made faith-based, or inductive reasoning arguments, admitting there is a lack of evidence for many RP beliefs. http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/218sam/beta_husband_falls_for_the_polyamory_trap_lets/cgauik2 Above we see an endorsed member making what amounts to academic word salad, I'm trying not to strawman here but a lot of the intelligible points do boil down to "It doesn't matter if it's true or not, I…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/14 05:39 AM
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I think that cultural norms manifest in this way. You especially detract from red pill thought in this category, where members predominantly argue male-female differences are evolutionarily ingrained and feminism has made a big mess of the "natural" order of things. I'm pretty sure you've mentioned you're an older dude but even so I'd bet with decent certainty you're going to ultimately distance yourself from redpill once you find a group of people who share your conservative leaning viewpoints …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/14 05:17 AM
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And yet, here you are, paying just as much attention to something that should be oh so trivial to you
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/14 09:06 PM
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I'm becoming more aware of this, that I've gotten just about everything I'd need to understand on this subject and that my time spent here isn't really bringing me further understanding on this subject or how I relate to it, and I honestly should drop out very very soon. Not to be an asshole to the red leaning members here who contribute to debate for the sake of pooling our knowledge together and learning, but arguing with certain members of TRP, is not much different from arguing with stormfro…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/14 09:05 PM
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It's difficult to because there are people on bluepill who essentially hold that sort of worldview, as there are redpill guys who hold that worldview and decide they're frustrated with life and need a change and seek absolutely the wrong sort of change that ends them no closer to attaining satisfaction and pretty much doing what they always have done, except learning how to occasionally score a vaguely attractive, insecure girl for casual fucking or short term dating before it stops working out …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 07:22 PM
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Oh also I wasn't saying your thread should be closed, just there's been lots of PPD arguments over this subject already you may wanna take a look at
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 05:24 PM
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The questions is to what extent these are genetically inherent or socially learned things. Not to assign arguments, but generally red pill argues more towards the former and opposition the latter
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 05:23 PM
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My only other contribution to redpill's obsession around how female promiscuity is a bad thing is if you're anxious that other women won't want to commit to you you because they've been allowed to be with other men, is you're not the alpha you oh so want to perceive yourself as
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 05:20 PM
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They look at bluepill advice like "bitch, just provide and work and analyze and worry and romance and never stop dating and give and give and maybe someday, if you're lucky, the woman will deign to throw you a few scraps of sex, which by the way you don't deserve and aren't entitled to in any way. Shitlord." Strawman it upppp
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 05:10 PM
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Thread's been done before, you may want to look back for very similar discussions. I'll take this space to address why the lock-key metaphor is grossly oversimplifying, and absolutely retarded - If a key can open 100 locks, what's that actually say about the key's success rate? What if the key has tried to forcefully jam itself into 100,000 locks and only 0.1% of them yielded? Does it say anything about the quality of the locks that were openned? Who's to say the lock that's been openned by 100 …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 05:04 PM
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To your first point, you're retarded Great choice of ad hominem! Really showed me how much of a dumb stupid idiotface I am You're making the argument that because "feminists are against the war on drugs" they're against sentencing disparities. I've never seen a feminist deride a court's decision as too lenient for a woman or too harsh for a man outside of your War on Drugs example. WHAT?? You said you're against the war on drugs, that was not "my example", feminists have no positive position on …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/14 04:09 PM
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Why do you have constant, unrequited, gnawing feelings of attraction for long term friends? Why are you hiding this from them? Lying to your friends for the sake of avoiding strife does not make one a good friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/14 04:50 PM
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So many strawmen, so little time. Great job you recognized the strawman fallacy that I EXPLICITLY pointed out to make a point of YOUR OWN, which was saying that if feminists were concerned about equality they would be concerned about sentencing disparities between men and women, which they already are in spite of your unfounded claim that feminists as a whole positively don't. Do you get it now, that that's a strawman too? Do you understand that's why I made a similarly absurd strawman that I us…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/14 04:48 PM
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Yeah, there are feminists who do demand sentencing reductions, because most feminists are reasonable human beings who understand that the American prison complex is an absurd fucking thing. Let's put a strawman on you, if you're all about sentencing equality, why aren't you demanding right now for the equal sentencing of black men? Huh? Racist
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/14 01:31 AM
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Once again, engaging in the exact behavior that OP criticizes you for, not even self aware enough to catch yourself on it reiterated a second time. Lots of feminists are in fact concerned with the depiction of women as chaste and pure compared to men and crime committed by women to be qualitatively different from crime committed by men. When women are excused from wrongdoing by virtue of being oppressed and thus not responsible for their own actions women's agency is denied, hence TRP philosophy…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/14 01:19 AM
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Yeah that's the weird thing about it I guess, I mean I have the feeling I could tell some girl friends I hang with that I'd fuck them senseless, just because, and they'd be mostly cool with it but even those that'd handle it well without wanting to hook up would make things a little different
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/14 05:59 AM
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Would wearing clothes in public and refraining from getting grabby with strangers and asking them if they wanna make fucky bang bang with you be "bottling up?" Answer - Maybe, that's part of the deal with living in civilized society, respecting other people's boundaries and engaging in what we describe as civil behavior and all so we can continue doing this whole "civilized" thing we're trying to do that has very different rules from our natural state
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/14 05:57 AM
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Feminists are deluded people who... You understand you're engaging in the exact behavior that OP is criticizing right? Feminists don't believe in female superiority, feminists aren't necessarily marxists or whatever other word you want to use for "wealth redistributors/outcome levelers". Not even "well yes but most" no, most feminists are neither of these things that you positively assert they are. They are the leaches that have ruined marriage. Huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/14 12:08 AM
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men have higher mortality rates, women have higher morbidity rates. What the fuck is the empathy and chivalry gap and where do they weigh in on this? Protected doesn't mean more fortunate. Less choice, more comfort maybe, this does not make them objectively more fortunate
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/14 12:01 AM
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You are switching the debate from first world to third world. So wait now we're not talking about back breaking risky labor anymore once I bring up the people who actually do engage in back breaking risky labor?? Additionally, there is evidence that third world women are actually happier and don't want western interference in their cultures cloaked under the banner of "women's rights and fighting oppression" Please do provide this evidence if you want to engage this subject. arrogantly and shril…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/14 12:00 AM
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Women only need to play it safe and choose the best offer. Men need to take risks, undertake back-breaking work and accumulate sufficient resources Like the upper class white feminists that Makes me so angry. You fail to understand that most women in the world engage in risky, back breaking labor to the same degree as men do. Most women in undeveloped and developing countries absolutely do not get to "play it safe" and get to "choose the best offer" and your belief that this is the case demonstr…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/14 05:39 PM
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AND has the added bonus of potentially Except it doesn't. Faking it masks your insecurities, but people see through that over time because you can't fake it indefinitely. If you work on making a pick up identity for short term pick ups without doing stuff to develop yourself internally, women won't be attracted to you beyond the purposes of short term flings
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/14 11:55 PM
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If you believe you're being a genuine person and treating people like people, and you're upset that "it still doesn't work", you aren't doing either of those things. BP does not tell you what to do or believe, BP makes fun of you all for what you do or believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/14 11:16 PM
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Putting on a fake persona works for short term hook ups but doesn't translate into results for long term relationships, if a woman is attracted to your aggressive cocksure persona and she slowly realizes you're secretly insecure or not as interesting as you first seemed she won't stick around. Being yourself is very important if you want women to be attracted to you and not your hooking up persona
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/14 11:12 PM
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Why do you have to bottle up or hide your emotions? Is it not possible for two adults to be peripherally sexually attracted to each other and independently come to the conclusion they enjoy one another's company as friends and don't really want to complicate that?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/14 08:05 PM
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a grassroots subreddit of angry white guys complaining about how hard it is for them to attain satisfaction in the realms of sexual and relationship stuff because of feminism and the cognitive flaws inherent to being a feeemale does not seem to have much more merit
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/14 10:26 PM
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Professional/registered sex workers are much more conscientious of their sexual health, which is what I'm sure doof meant to say
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/14 04:00 PM
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As much as others around here hold you in contempt I now see why you never bugged me much. Unlike lames like RPS and nicething and skinnybitches and Dana etc you don't have an air of desperately trying to prove something. That said, you obviously do want to get a reaction and be perceived in some sort of way, so the opinions you share are obviously not entirely reflective on your true beliefs. I think you'd do well distancing yourself from the bitter lame that is redpill and finding a more posit…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/14 03:04 PM
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Thread says it's advantageous for men of RP who want to fuck around. If TRP is about personal accountability and transgressing faulty liberal social norms, stop blaming external forces for pushing you to act this way or that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/14 03:51 AM
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When you define bluepill advice as "anything that is contary to redpill and doesn't work" you're also engaging in a fallacy that leads you to confirmation bias. Is good diet and exercise redpill as well, and fad diets bluepill? Is Astronomy redpill, and Astrology bluepill?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/14 10:03 PM
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A commonly repeating trope on PPD here is that there are no generalizations...If we extrapolate on this...If we extrapolate on this...So why do blue pillers adamantly deny... We call this a strawman of a strawman of a strawman of a big strawman golly gee how much fucking corn are you trying to accrue this year's harvest Farmer Ted?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/14 09:51 PM
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This subreddit is centered around constructive debate. You're asking an impossible question, to name a woman who was THE BEST in her field, when you can't even name a man who is objectively THE BEST in his field
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/14 06:16 PM
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noooo It's Einstein or nooo it's Hawking or noooo it's Galileo so YOU'RE WRONG again, what's the point of this question?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/14 06:11 PM
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Who is the best male physicist, scientist, mathematician? Can't name one? Then what do you hope to get out of your question?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/14 05:55 PM
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Something like 3% of women are taller than the average man, and I'd go and estimate somewhere around a third of women are taller than the 20th percentile of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/14 05:53 PM
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I have trouble empathizing with entitled people that get their whole sexual world handed to them on a silver platter, and then complain when they overfuck themselves into poor psyco-social health. why is it that me and many other men can emphasize with people who have their "whole sexual world handed to them on a silver platter"? Maybe because there comes a time when you realize getting to hook up with your choice of strangers isn't that awesome for everyone and you realize that doesn't suddenly…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/14 05:44 PM
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A guy will pick battles he can win. Obviously not this guy, or several others I've seen who've taken a public beating and keep fucking doing it because there's something that doesn't click to them that they look like a fool picking fights then losing them 80% of the time. We're speaking on a minority of people either way, idiots instigating fights are not representative of the population and thus cannot reflect greater truths on that population
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/14 05:40 PM
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Likewise, OP's engaging in some of the stuff he's talking about, but that's kind of the nature of half assed debate, which lazy idealogues engage in to cheer on their side and beat down the opposition rather than engage others in honest debate that leads to mutual gains in understanding
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/14 05:13 AM
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So when attractive women express their issues they're invalid because your perception is that women have it easier?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/14 05:04 AM
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Wow it's almost like being clingy insecure constantly doting and overly dependent is an unattractive trait in either gender
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/14 05:00 AM
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In a bar, women picking fights with guys that could literally kill them. Something guys know not to do. You're telling me guys don't get into fights callously that could easily lead them to be critically injured, like the time the other week a too drunk dude kept shoving me on a dance floor and tried to start a fight in the bar, got broken up by the bouncers, then he was waiting for me outside to continue the fight where at one point he tried to knee me and I tripped him and he probably got a co…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 04:42 PM
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Kind of the same thing like when you all rage about how "solipsistic" women are? What about all men are potential rapists? Is that a humorous comparison?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 04:33 PM
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I still don't understand how legally binding contracts can get tossed if you take them up to the right court, if that is the case why get married? Yall are obviously aware of how fucked it is
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 03:08 AM
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How the fuck is a legally binding contract unenforceable? Judge : Uhh yeah I know it says you both legally agreed to hold all your own resources independent of one another for the explicit purpose of making your marriage an entirely voluntary situation free of coercion but uhh it's a holy union of a man and a woman and according to the law of the land that means your wife keeps the house you know what they say ALPHA FUX BETA BUX LOL case dismissed bangs gavel
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/14 04:48 PM
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If you're an "average" dude concerned about paying alimony to your wife because she's in a different tax bracket than you then I have no idea why you wouldn't get a prenup
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/14 03:23 AM
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markmanson.net Good enoughhh? What redpill hopes to accomplish without the gender pseudoscience and contempt for women
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/14 02:55 AM
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There's plenty of good advice posted here that isn't tied in with bitterness towards women and pseudoscience on the nature of the sexes, either you choose to ignore it or discount it because there hasn't been a /r/antiredpill sub created specifically to dole it out. If you need an official source or a spokesperson or some bullshit Mark Manson would be good for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/14 01:26 AM
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Men and women both become unattractive with age if they ride on their youthful looks and do nothing to take care of their physical selves. Red pill hamstering tell us that women are somehow sexually attracted to money and power, and those women playing arm candy and marrying balding, overweight men are totally not just in it to get a cut but genuinely do get damp for flaccid, materialistic older men who share none of their interests. There are both men and women who are physically attractive int…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/14 08:20 PM
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I don't pedestalize women and am assertive and get what I want and make my intentions clear in social interactions, but I very rarely encounter this sort of shaming language. It does happen but I generally know how to manage it, respond assertively without escalating the situation and know when I'm truly not welcome amongst the group and know when to leave. In fact: Where do you even get "useless gutter trash to be abused"? Read everything by /u/skinnybitches (oops gone) and many other top posti…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/14 08:02 PM
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Of course thinking of women as solipsistic/hypergamous/insecure/hamstering works, because TRP strategies work to attract women who have these traits and develop a confirmation bias because women who don't fit into their worldview are put off by them and women who do fit into their worldview play the game
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/14 05:30 AM
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Do you idealize wealth and status above all else? Do those things seem integral to your personal happiness and self esteem?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/14 11:59 PM
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Except for the part where anecdotal evidence and pure speculation aren't proof because I can do the exact same thing and I did, though not specifically, of guys saying their urges were outside of their control and it was the woman's fault for seducing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/14 05:42 AM
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You can use as much anecdotal evidence as you like but that doesn't further your claim. Plenty of guys talk about cheating as if it's natural for a guy to do so and he can't control his dick when an attractive girl comes onto him and it was the attractive girl's fault and not his, rapists often claim that they weren't able to control their biological urges, and plenty of men support those claims because they speak it out loud with their friends and their friends will support them because they're…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/14 04:46 AM
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These figures are on a gradient made up by whoever made the chart and aren't based on any data. Even in today's world amongst first world nations where women are more often encouraged to be serious about fitness in the same manner as men, women are never expected to go at it as hard as men do. Again I'm not making the claim women can be as physically strong as men are but I'm quite certain the gap is narrowing, anyone have research on the subject please do show. According to this my max lifts pu…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/14 02:14 AM
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Men make excuses for bad behavior, but they do not pretend they were powerless to avoid it. W-what?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/14 01:59 AM
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Neither does anyone else, it's a discussion of semantics, like you said, dangerface is not making the argument that she could certainly fight a larger man with a similar background in martial arts
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/14 04:58 PM
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Now, does that mean we can say that giants and gnomes are physically equal? ...No one's arguing that men and women are physically equal. You seem to be arguing over your definition of parallel, which dangerface interpreted to mean a man roughly her size, not someone who's the same percentile in height and weight. Everyone understands what you're saying, idk what you're trying to get at by saying it though
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/14 08:00 PM
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Say I come from a village of gnomes and I am average sized compared to the general population, meaning I'm a giant compared to the population of my village. In a physical competition, would I have to take on someone 7' tall and 300+ lbs to prove this same point you're making?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/14 07:02 PM
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Physically, I believe that men and women are inescapably unequal. The average man is stronger than all but the top .1% of women, Does anyone have sources on this stuff? I hear all sorts of claims like this, some more absurd like that video of that fedora'd pua everyone was making fun of a few weeks back saying "The strongest woman in the world couldn't beat an average man in a fair fight" I really don't think your statement's accurate though, I'd pin it closer to the average man being equivalent…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/14 06:57 PM
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I can't read the paper (because I am not a professional) so it's invalid Using sources that are inaccessible to the vast majority of people, including many students (frequently citations are brought up that even my school, a City University of New York, doesn't have access to) don't have access to is a poor use of evidence because we can't actually evaluate it. I don't understand what a p-value is, or what adequate sample sizes are, so it's invalid. I don't like their method (because I am not a …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/14 05:57 PM
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Ya bro wat a bout u
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/14 05:40 PM
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What context is this? How do you know it differs? Who's most people? What does vulnerability mean, to you,and what do you think it means to most people? When you're taking for granted that everyone understands something the same way you do, and insist that if they don't they're being dishonest with themselves, you may wanna take a step back and think "gee I wonder if people's experiences differ from mine" you know, "solipsism", that thing that RP insists all women do? Might wanna check yourself …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/14 04:32 PM
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Oh he doesn't really mean what he's saying lol he's just pussing up what we all really know is up rite gaiz?? Also if the commonly accepted definition of dominance amongst a community is malevolent aggressiveness towards those perceived to be weaker than oneself and irrational hostility towards outsiders, that doesn't make it so.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/14 09:21 AM
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Everything RP advocates, minus the pseudoscientific anecdotally based analysis on and bitterness towards women that BP makes fun of you for. /u/puaSenator what do you make of Mark Manson who does well with women without going on about how feminism has ruined society and why women lack the virtues inherent to men and are thus to be held to different standards from men?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/14 03:22 AM
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If being considerate and vulnerable and prosocial looks weak and repulsive to 99% of women, What if those traits don't look weak and repulsive to 99% of women but don't necessarily initiate sexual response, the same way breathing and talking about your taxes doesn't initiate sexual response? What if those traits are only actively repulsive to a small category of women, say 1%, who are attracted to those unrefined and antisocial traits you describe and your confirmation bias in your interaction w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/14 07:20 PM
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It's kinda true though, women make appalling relationship choices, like a broken antenna or something And men don't nope not at all ...and it works. It'd work a lot better without all the evopsych pseudoscience and heaping side of bitter contempt
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/14 03:12 PM
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I said as much like 5 posts ago
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/14 07:18 PM
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I mean I could give you anecdotes of the guys 5'4-5'7 I know who are better with women than most 6' dudes but you'll probably counter that with how my subjective anecdotes don't reflect on others experiences you know, what do you want me to say?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/14 06:54 PM
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And a 5'11 woman is not shorter than me
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/14 05:33 PM
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You seem to just want to disagree on anything. You're continuing the conversation and are just as actively engaged. What does prostitution, something we all know exists where women's socioeconomic freedom is limited, have anything to do with the player/slut dichotomy that pervades in the western world?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/14 05:26 PM
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I'm 5'9 and skinny and go for taller women a lot, I know not the struggle of "women don't like short guys ughh it's so easyyyy for tall guys"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/14 05:22 PM
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Never said that. Tall white wealthy millionaire heirs have it much easier than a lot of people, boo hoo life isn't fair isn't this the sort of shit red pill teaches you to get over?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/14 07:42 AM
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It's not all men like casual sex, and women hate it. Tell that to the countless women I know who've gotten pissed off that their play partner trolled for a committed relationship after the agreement was to just hook up and maybe chill. I'd interject my personal experiences on the matter of women who explicitly wanted casual sex with me as well but you seem to wanna shut me down for what you perceive to be bragging. Weird you call it making love and that you enjoy intimacy after saying you'd be h…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/14 03:34 AM
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we we we speak for yourself. Once you actually have some noncommittal sex under your belt it's not a novelty anymore. Sure I find it fun but if I don't dig the girl and/or she doesn't turn heads it's not really worth it. Uhhh oh I'm a dude Athletes, celebrities, businessmen etc all fuck hookers because they just want sex without having to deal with any other bs. “I don't pay them for sex. I pay them to leave.” - Charlie Sheen Wealthy high status men obviously attract women who want to get someth…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/14 03:01 AM
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ok my bad for not replying for over a week but it was the weekend and I didn't wanna set aside a few minutes and it kind of lost momentum. Look at your last two posts, one you're arguing that my strategy only might work with average/below average women, the next you're calling me a duplicitous pick up artist picking up hotties, you're being really inconsistent. I see you believe one can't treat women like human beings and at the same time want to hook up with them, as much as it doesn't make sen…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/14 07:29 PM
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Gary guys hahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/14 04:15 PM
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In terms of getting it in of course women have better odds they can go up to some strange man and get some. Once you've had bad sex with a stranger though you'd know the follow up question, why the fuck does that matter? Unless you're a sex addict and feel immense withdrawal physiologically and psychologically if you don't get some fucking, hooking up with someone you haven't had the chance to get to know and evaluate for a couple hours can be pretty lame. The point that it's easier to have sex …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/14 03:35 PM
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Says your worldview. Men who want casual sex and aren't getting any are setting their bar too high, there are plenty of less conventionally attractive women that're down to hook up. Women who want casual sex and nothing more often deal with men who are looking for something more and become hostile when she doesn't want to see them anymore, and also face more negative social pressures making it difficult for her to select partners to hook up with.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/14 03:21 AM
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Dude, if I was a tall, good looking white guy I probably wouldn't turn to TRP either. You have "it" in terms of what women are looking for physically. TRP consists mostly of white guys who in spite of their initially low self image are or would be conventionally attractive if they got in shape. There are several shorter dudes who don't have problems with women, even taller women. I know black, asian and south asian dudes who have no problem with women. The latter category that does have problems…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/14 09:25 PM
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It's sad how little self awareness all those dudes have at how their values and beliefs concerning women are all self prophecizing, and it's women who are prone to be "solipsistic"?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/14 06:22 PM
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That's because red pill targets the women that sync with their worldview - Insecure about their desirability and sexuality, hypergamous, focused on attracting a "high value "man by being a "high value" woman. For a lot of them it's unfathomable that the women who aren't interested in them don't match their worldview of women thus their strategy to belittle and instill dread in them to demonstrate their "high value" does not work
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/14 06:09 PM
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50 isn't a lot of partners. Say someone's been sexually active since they're 16 and are now 35 and are interested in settling down on a long term relationship. That's less than 3 partners a year. Of course Red pill would identify men with that partner count as "players" and women with that partner count as "sluts" regardless of how little meaning a partner count holds.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/14 05:49 PM
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It's also really easy to get pussy, as a man. Just go to any average looking/less attractive than you woman and tell her you'd like to commit to her (you don't actually have to do that, as RP would tell you) and bam, you don't have to pay and you can keep coming back until she's unsatisfied with the conditions of the arrangement
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/14 05:44 PM
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N 46th percentile/2.7 M 20th percentile/2.0 P 15th percentile/1.8 I was expecting a little higher on the narcissism inventory considering how into myself I am but I guess being conscientious of how silly it is to think I'm so great but do anyway means that I'm not more narcissistic than the general popoulation
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/14 09:49 PM
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So you can reread the comment that you've twice managed to miss the point of
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/14 07:20 PM
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Are you aware of the redpill concept of solipsism? Ok let's answer your question though, I definitely see where red pill gets it's observations from, there are certainly people who fall into stereotypes, some more than others, of stereotypical red pill gender dynamics. The ones who could be categorized as strongly fitting red pill stereotypes are not a majority, the majority of people I see you could apply some red pill analysis on them, but that is by no means encompassing of their character an…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/14 01:46 PM
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Not as long as she was only dominant towards females and beta males and submitted absolutely to her alpha male and trusted him in all forms of decision making and moved aside her ambitions to be a better womanservant to her man
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/14 01:37 PM
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nonono christ I thought you were having a moment of self awareness here and then you go back and say "see you bluepillerz don't got da redpill game you just don't get the level I'm working at" shit I pull attractive women all the time did you not read when I said I've been with some of those model gorgeous women you dudes are all clamoring to get a piece of? I'd post pictures to drive the point home but who gives a fuck you'll likely denounce it as some chick who I jerked it to and never once ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/14 06:48 AM
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I reject the notion that actively looking for sex means you're disrespecting the people you want to have sex with. So any man who believes being physically attractive and confident gets you positive feedback is red pill even if he passionately loathes red pill views on gender dynamics? I used the wrong word, rather ideas than behaviors. Sure you can say those ideas are shared with red pill, they're also shared with just about every dating and self improvement scheme there is. I'm glad you can ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/14 08:17 AM
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That's just the way it seems to average and below attractiveness men. It's fucking awful how so many guys believe because of their frustrations and dire need to validate themselves through sexual conquest, literally every other man is like this and will pound any ass that could feasibly get them hard even if they don't know the girl at all and even if they're in a committed relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/14 05:21 AM
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I get plenty of ass treating women with respect and disagreeing almost entirely with the pseudoscientific evoscience and gender dynamics shit red pill cooks up. I've been with 2 or 3 women that consensus would say were model gorgeous and 20+ partners in total having chosen not to go after many many more and I'm a 21 year old student with no money and I'm somewhat smaller than the average man as well. I'd say I'm pretty physically attractive because 1) I'm pretty into myself and have plenty of co…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/14 05:16 AM
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OP is discussing need of a partner, not need for labor.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/14 07:00 PM
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and vice-versa, what else is new?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/14 06:52 PM
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Pointing out how ridiculous your comment was when you wrote on and on about the virtues and hard work of men that aren't you? Just an fyi women invented and innovated plenty of things in spite of institutional roadblocks such as an inability to file patents, access to higher education, discrimination in hiring practices and the workplace etc. it's a popular myth among mens rights types that men invented and created fucking everything while women smiled along and did domestic women things
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/14 06:49 PM
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I can't make a logical counterpoint so I'll put a strawman in it's place!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/14 06:43 PM
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Who are you to dictate what is considered a masculine or feminine strength? Who are "the guys" and why should these women who are apparently out-manning them be concerned about them "[liking] her"? If someone feels weak and insecure because there's someone who's more ambitious and successful than they are they should be working to better themselves and not ask for a handicap, I know the following's a strawman but don't RP politics generally loathe people asking for social support at the expense …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/14 06:47 AM
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Not sure if troll or not, considering your Stephen Colbert homage. Are you actually saying women are too empowered and you need to knock them down a peg so men are more attractive to them? That is the antithesis of confident, attractive behavior in a person, feeling intimidated by the success of others and feeling a need to belittle them
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/14 03:08 PM
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Is being uncomfortable around strong women an alpha trait?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/14 03:05 PM
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I can't provide any evidence for my position so I'll claim that everyone's in agreement with my viewpoint and anyone who disagrees is being dishonest with themselves ok
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/14 03:37 AM
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hahaha /u/danabanana9 nodded her head in agreement with the troll
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/14 03:57 AM
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http://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1wih9k/question_for_blue_pillers/cf2ba3i Come on man, this should be all the proof you need
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/14 03:56 AM
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http://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1wih9k/question_for_blue_pillers/cf2ba3i This isn't trolling? Come on
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/14 03:54 AM
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He'd probably really hate living in west europe, or any other first world country that provides adequate support to single mothers, which will just cause more mothers to raise children by themselves and work full time, the same way providing fire extinguishers encourages more fires right?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/14 06:30 PM
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pretty hard for anyone to argue with the conclusion that "people are different from one another" which is really what the research indicates once you take off the attention grabbing headlines
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/14 06:26 PM
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This was posted like 5, 6 weeks ago I believe, and the sensational headline still does very little justice for the actual findings. Differences were greater within genders than between, indicating people as a whole are more diverse from one another than men and women. You can't pick out someone with somewhat greater wiring in the motor controls center, say one standard deviation above the mean if you need me to quantify that, and with good probability say "yeah that's a man" or someone with simi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/14 06:19 PM
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That's a common error in RP'ers uninterested in honest debate here, is imposing the position of whatever sex negative or misandrist radfem shit that pissed them off recently as the default position of everyone not RP and thus criticizing everyone who's nonRP for holding that position. You'll certainly meet BPers who are likewise uninterested in genuine debate and rather want to use this space to say RPers are sick in the head for this and this reason. Usually they get banned and then complain th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/14 05:59 PM
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How many of you bitches would like some pancakes?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/14 02:47 PM
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I really don't even understand what concern trolling is to you all, but we're in agreement concern trolling is a form of trolling right? Then any time someone is accused of concern trolling when their concern is genuine, they're being falsely accused of concern trolling. And I'm sure you'll disagree here, but the rule concerning concern trolling is a means to silence dissent without admitting to being pro censorship within the community
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/14 09:31 PM
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I got laid a few weeks ago by wearing a blouse I GUESS I'M DOING IT WRONG :D
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/14 08:45 PM
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From an evolutionary stand point they only serve the purpose of cooperation. How could anything be more disorderly then causing you to forsake your one and only biological purpose? ?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/14 08:42 PM
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So anyone who engages in sex recreationally and proactively uses methods to prevent a pregnancy has a sexual disorder ok got it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/14 08:38 PM
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Shit maybe in some other reality I would have been more neutral in the whole red/blue dichotomy if I wasn't banned on my first post for stating that I appreciate some of the /r/theredpill discourse on gender relations today but find it troubling that most of it is buried under misogynistic unhelpful bullshit, a post that received almost as many upvotes as downvotes there
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/14 08:14 PM
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The question is what accordingly means
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/14 04:11 AM
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But hard science can have soft bits and soft science can have hard bits, for example you can have pharmacokinetics tell us the specific neurological effects on the human body, and then someone with authority says these effects work best for someone with whatever condition. There may be ways to demonstrate a symptom is treated, and improvement is shown in certain lives, but that does not mean the medicine is the "best" means to coping with an illness, it's literally fucking impossible to encompas…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/14 04:09 AM
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Imposing yourself on someone you know won't challenge you doesn't make you a dominant person, even if you're being dominant within the situation. Lots of men who are physically abusive to their women consider themselves to be tough guys and dominant, but fall right apart when a woman won't put up with their shit and threatens to leave him for good or are confronted physically by someone who looks to be a match for them. Likewise I don't consider men who target women who they're assured won't cha…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/14 05:58 PM
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Right, a standard trope in response to a standard trope
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/14 03:26 PM
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when the man submits, the high dominance woman usually becomes repulsed by him and loses attraction for him, when the women submits, its because shes found a man worthy of submitting to finally and she is happy and the high dominance man is too. This is the common narrative in the manosphere but I'd have reason to disagree, I find men unable to deal with a dominant woman to be weak and insecure, and likewise women who feel ill at ease around a man who's cool with her being dominant situationally…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/14 02:21 PM
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I've been trying to tell this to every extremist when I get the opportunity, that radfems, mra's/redpill, the religious right, that they're all exactly the same, and they all fucking hate eachother because they're exactly the same and can't deal with how they use the same polarizing, hate breeding tactics as one another to push opposing ideals that are all meant to do the same thing - make people feel bad about the way they live their lives, impose values with which they need to adjust their liv…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/14 06:02 PM
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Yeah we're on the same page then, though I'm inclined to think your wish to see this come about is more out of spite than a wish for gender equality
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/14 05:20 PM
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Obviously men played very important roles in combat roles historically as it was reserved solely for them for a long while, and will continue to be so even with legislation that allows women to serve alongside combat roles. Combat roles play less and less importance as conflicts are waged through different means though. As you might guess I don't support armed conflict, I respect men and women who feel they're serving an ideological good by being part of the military, and I certainly think the U…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/14 05:19 PM
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Soo you believe red pill theory, but don't support it because you think women could deserve a valuable lesson in what equality means? Because if that's true we have something we really agree on, even if our motivations to see this happen are totally different.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/14 03:56 AM
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My point is exactly that, that immediate satisfaction does not implicate long term satisfaction, women may respond positively to courtesies in the short term, but in the long term may experience suffering from the connotations of not having the agency of a man in this system. Total strawman on the second part, I will say that I entirely disagree with lowering pft standards for women, if you can't complete training to serve in combat you should take an administrative or noncombat role. There are …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/14 03:53 AM
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The question is how much can you generalize? The experiment can also be certainly put to question, i'm sure if you offered people cocaine and prompted them for their feelings immediately after the event you'd find cocaine makes people as a whole happier, what does that actually mean? As a man, if someone held doors for me while I had shit in my hands I'd describe the experience as positive, this doesn't mean society would be better off if everyone held doors for me. I have no doubt there are gro…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/14 03:22 AM
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This is the exact opposite of what Red Pill teaches it's disciples to do
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/14 03:11 AM
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If you want to illicit male-centric behavior that is a help to your life and makes men happier in the giving of it, yes, you need to be somewhat demure, feminine, and submissive. Speak for yourself dude, my respect for others is not contingent on what gender roles they ascribe to
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/14 03:10 AM
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Hold open the door for anyone who's behind you. What are you gonna do, leave it to slam in their face if it's a dude? I hold open doors for men all the time, I help my dad carry his shopping (if he'll let me), if I see an elderly man on the bus I'll let him have my seat. Right-O, respect all others reguardless of their genitals and people will respond well. Like I said in my post, if you're extending this kindness towards solely women you are the Nice Guy™ who is looking to extract certain respo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/14 03:07 AM
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opening the door for a woman or digging a woman's car out of several feet of snow. This sounds a lot like Nice Guy™ behavior doesn't it? Tip of the fedora to you m'lady? I'll take a page from your own book and say fuck that. I would argue to feminists, if you're intentionally unfeminine and project and air of "I don't need a man" to the world, men are going to treat you like men (even boorishly perhaps, that's how men interact with other men sometimes too). You're no different, or are you? Come …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/14 03:02 AM
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Then why don't you make a newer better debate sub for all this where the rules are fairly enforced? I'm sorry I feel the need for all the snark but you gotta be aware of your own bias in all this when you recognize dishonest tactics amongst blue pill leaning members but not amongst red pill leaning members. You're a good debater and a lot of your responses are thoughtful and interesting but it's frustrating that you don't seem to ever concede that your world view may be worthy of review and that…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/14 06:35 PM
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maybe my comments are pumped with a little too much snark but I'm deleting this account in the coming weeks so I've stopped caring. Aside from being a little too cheeky though I find I'm asking some fair questions considering he's accusing this subreddit of being a bluepill front to push his buttons
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/14 10:08 PM
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idk man you said this place is just a front for bluepill trolling, by all means you're as free as anyone else to express what you think and feel and I'm not here to put words in your mouth but this is the stuff I'm getting from you, if that's what you believe what's the fucking point? We're not gonna learn anything because we're all just here to fuck with you, you want debate, we want to push your buttons, is that not what you're getting at? So in response I ask you why Mr. Anderson why WHY do y…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/14 09:57 PM
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Ever read anything by Mark Manson? He brings up things that are discussed in red pill that do make sense and is extremely critical of the parts that are scientifically unsound misanthropic bullshit that we're here to criticize, I think you'll find any of the biotruths discussed in RoK categorically useless and written by unwell people if you give his material a good read
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/14 09:38 PM
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So why are you still posting here? It's probably best to move away from this mind poison of debating with people who have alternative views and go back to the echo chamber so you can here your voice, but louder
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/14 09:31 PM
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What's the point of debating here then when you can go back to your sub and get the fair and balanced debate you're looking for then? Hoping everyone who isn't red pill sees the light and thanks you for correcting their objectively incorrect worldview?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/14 06:21 PM
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It's always nauseating seeing dudes consider a woman above the age of 25 to be too old for a "high value" man to be with, especially considering I'm younger than they are and, by virtue of going for women who look to be around my age, go for women older than they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/14 05:21 PM
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In contrast to the previous discussion I commented on, you can surely gain from this subreddit. You certainly do have radical types who despise men and make blanket claims on the nature of all men, but please don't make the mistake that all feminists align with their views or even accept them. The feminists I associate with almost uniformly loathe the SJWs of Tumblr and, although usually think MRA's are also ridiculous, recognize there's validity to their grievances concerning men's issues but a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/14 03:38 PM
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If I were more lively right now this exchange would actually rile me up really bad, instead it's just depressing. I'd really like this guy to get something out of this subreddit but judging by how he's not self aware enough to understand how his debate tactics create an indestructible wall of confirmation bias I really doubt it. I'll take this as a moment to mention I'll likely be deleting this account and spending less time in debate subs on reddit pretty soon, next 2 or 3 weeks I'd figure. Thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/14 03:25 PM
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There are people who grow up with people using their insecurities against them, even insecurities brought up in confidence. They then grow up to believe this is normal behavior in people and imitate it, using previous events as ammo for rationalizing arguments over current events. This is not a gender specific thing
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/14 04:14 PM
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Sounds like you're insecure because people have reacted negatively to your attempts to open up in the past. Do you think this is a gender specific experience? I can assure you it's not
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/14 04:10 PM
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My evidence is valid whereas yours is not This is fucking ridiculous, she provides examples within the threads that you cite and they don't count because there's less of them in a discussion oriented towards providing the opposite position?? http://powertochange.com/experience/sex-love/disengagedspouse/ Bam. In my experience being honest and feeling comfortable opening up to women I'm dating has led to positive outcomes. Your experience does not align with mine, nor does it generalize to the ent…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/14 04:07 PM
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There were two occasions where I entirely destroyed his arguments and then of course he stopped responding, and continued to use those same arguments elsewhere. He generalizes BP like this constantly as if we all have one consistent opinion, then criticizes anyone who isn't RP as being a BPer with inconsistent opinions. Strawmans and snark are his two favorite debate tools. He's not here to learn and debate constructively, rather act as a holy warrior of the RP cause and defend his beliefs to no…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/14 01:01 AM
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No one's going to argue that there aren't differences between men and women, I think you'd hardly find people on RP who wouldn't agree that there are certain things we associate with gender that are social constructs. The red pill position however generally seems to be that the gender dichotomy is good and our culture's move towards accepting men doing things that have been traditionally considered feminine and women doing things that have been traditionally considered as masculine is doing harm…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/14 03:38 PM
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There are lots of people who hold that sex and love are independent from one another, and that associating the two can be harmful rather than beneficial - note can be, I'm not here to devalidate your personal experience, but in mine associating sex with love leads to a conflation of sexual attraction with a desire to be in a relationship, which I'm sure you agree make for bad relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/14 01:30 PM
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I mean I always try to communicate with my partner if I see something's up, if we're not hooking up anymore and she's not troubled by anxiety or depression or an excessive work schedule, and the reason was something like "I'm tired" more than one night in a row, or I felt her freeze up when I put my hands on her, I'd be running under the assumption there's something she doesn't want to communicate and if it continues to be the case for more than a few weeks that wouldn't be acceptable by my stan…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/14 11:24 PM
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It's not that what you get up to is literally impossible, but your stories, especially the dialogue are written like short erotic stories dude. If these are stories based loosely on your life with your own fantasies interjected great, it's certainly a step up from nonalcoholic vodka shots out of girls assholes frat of the year penultimate revenge against false rape feminist bitches man, but if you're trying to pass these off as 100% authentic autobiographical recounts, where multiple times you s…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/14 11:05 PM
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HAHAHA that /u/scottishredpill fella's an endorsed member but of course, I wanted to specifically link to the entirety of his blog as one big /r/thatHappened There are posts, "field reports" that do have a ring of authenticity, then there's the majority which sound a bit iffy, slightly exaggerated at best and possibly adapted from a third person into a first person perspective, and some that are obviously, inarguably, laughably manufactured. That last one comfortably fits in the last category, w…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/14 03:26 PM
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Never had a long term relationship where sex stopped at some point. Girls who I hook up with for a few months at a time who continue to hang out with me but stop having sex usually I end up seeing less and less of them and just move on. If an LTR stopped wanting sex from me I'd take it as a sign to either break up or open the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/14 09:31 PM
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Hypergamous, hardwired Who's to say female beauty is not a resource, and less attractive men are "marrying up" to acquire that resource? Is $$cashmoney$$ the only resource that measures hypergamy? The language used by research informs the findings, behavior is defined in terms of what observers notice, creating confirmation bias that is demonstrably false when researchers with different perspectives look at the data I've met several men who'll go for women who make more money than them, and olde…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/13 09:20 PM
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I'm not even going to touch your specific choice of "parasitic wasp" in your reply, in place of "women" You consistently throw out caricatures of negative behavior by women, but not men. Your response to OP pointing out RP's frequent moral judgement of certain actions by certain woman as evil or despicable, while judging their own equally scummy behavior as "amoral sexual strategy" and thus exempt from moral evaluation, is not hamstering, and then you create a caricature of deluded women rationa…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/13 10:00 PM
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like, when a man doesnt call her after a ONS "he's just afraid of me because im too confident". instead of thinking, oh, he didnt like me enough to call I wish there was some way to convey to you how unhealthy all this loathing of other women thing is to your well being. Your contempt for women is on par with the shit angsty 20-something dudes usually convey
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/13 11:31 PM
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Where you see tactics, others see people authentically living out their own lives. This is the sort of shit that blue pill makes fun if you all for; it's disturbing when you all try to boil down human interaction into these strategical plays, like a role playing game.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/13 11:17 PM
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No one's asking you to change, total derail. Your personal experience is not scientific evidence. Replace everything you say regarding red pill in this thread, and put God there in it's place. We call that faith, not science.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/13 12:06 AM
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I really wish every single person who encounters the manosphere or anything concerning dating advice could see something like what you wrote as a disclaimer, that's what I've been trying to get at but haven't been able to put into so few words. Then of course you're going to have people like OP and RPS who are fixed on defending their battleship will go "nahhh that's a nonanswer it doesn't count" instead of taking the message and thinking "you know there's a point here I could use to better unde…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/13 11:24 PM
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And the conspiracy claimers dissipate like the ghosts they ramble on about.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/13 10:56 PM
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I wish I could upvote you twice Complimentingbot :(
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/13 10:52 PM
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Sorry I was just being racist
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/13 06:23 PM
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You read wrong, saying only 1% of women have as much or more body strength as the weakest man is absurd. maybe top 1% of women have more upper body strength than the average man, meaning the 50th percentile, that could be plausible.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/13 06:23 PM
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Oh man I've seen that video, you people really think that's the world's strongest woman? On the flipside, you think those guys represent the median man? They're well fed, fairly strong American dudes, while not extraordinarily strong they're stronger than your average man. She's obviously very strong, probably 99th percentile of women,but not the strongest. That's a far reach from all but 1% of men being stronger than the entire human population of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/13 12:27 AM
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Source - Logic Facts
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/13 12:04 AM
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Aggressive, assertive guys are certainly attractive to women - this doesn't mean you have to be a dick but it often goes hand in hand - but that doesn't mean those same women are unattracted to kind or respectful men. You can be assertive and get what you want and still treat people around you with respect. Don't worry about the luck some guys have and the choices that some women make in guys - To most the number of women I've been with seems to be a lot, to many it's average, and to a few "that…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/13 10:54 PM
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It's awful whenever anyone tries to make someone feel bad for their personal life choices when it doesn't bring harm to anyone else. Everyone should be made aware that people who are going out of their way to hurt their feelings is not worth their time or consideration. Our consumption based economy is also enticing them to consume products that a single household income may not be able to readily provide. So if you're a sole provider for a household, don't give them free access to your credit c…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/13 10:26 PM
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It's not that he frequents the same board, it's that he posts about the fucked up shit he does and advocates it, and people nod their heads and agree and this creates a toxic environment that detracts from the quality of the board
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/13 05:58 PM
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Because science, facts etc. Good looking guys with low self esteem get plenty of attention from women, the same way predatory men target attractive girls with low self esteem, predatory women target men with low self esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/13 02:01 PM
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Never seen this sub before, I've got a semi already, thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/13 05:56 PM
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It does apply to men. Glad to see you owing up to that, when that question is brought up to a trp'er arguing this point they try to change the subject in their response or ignore it entirely. Kind of like those hostile radfems you have an issue with yeah? On subject, of course someone who gets fucked up constantly is gonna be problematic. Their consistently getting blacked out drunk is probably more indicative of them being a troubled individual than their promiscuity. Without sounding like an a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/13 05:52 PM
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Does this not apply to men because male promiscuity is a positive trait in trp, since a key that opens 100 locks is a good key but a lock that's been opened by 100 keys is a shitty lock? This subject's been brought up in a lot of threads, just an fyi, trying not to be too snarky but it's hard when this is like the hundredth time this has been discussed
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/13 05:26 PM
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So the idea of 'spinning plates' isn't really a thing, You're now denying that people have multiple partners? I mean there's nothing to argue, that's just not true
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/13 05:18 PM
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I can understand what you're saying, it's been said with less clarity before in this sub. However, there are ways to go about the process without holding women in contempt, or treating women as some mysterious other who doesn't play by the same rules as you. That anger is externalizing your locus of control, rather than taking accountability for your actions. There's no way you can paint this thing of projecting faults on women as part of some sort of healing process, it's harmful and even after…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/13 05:16 PM
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Being someone who treats women as equals and is kind and gentle seems to be a turn off to most women. False, hostile insecure women dislike men, and women, who treat others with kindness and respect. As per the "gentle" comment, you don't have to be an overly nice pushover to be respectful and mostly kind, it's true most women don't like very passive men. I don't really like passive women either though. Being overly passive demonstrates a fear or disposition to take charge and being held account…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/13 05:05 PM
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idk why you typed that all out, I wasn't asking for solutions to these guys lives. We're talking about pedastaling/obsessing on women in this thread specifically. Also I'm absolutely not red pill, what made you assume that I was?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/13 04:52 PM
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You first say pedestaling women doesn't happen in real life as is described here, or at least not enough for their attention to the subject to be justified, now you're saying it happens enough that most feminists or blue pillers would have a stance on it being that they understand it to not be a good thing, I'm kind of confused
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/13 04:41 PM
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its not actually a real thing that happens, or a as widespread as Terpers would like to think Come on really? That guy who's "best friends" with the girl he desperately wants to be with, the guy who lets his girlfriend abuse him because he's terrified she'll leave if he sticks up for himself, the guy who self identifies as a feminist and goes off on the wrongdoings of men and how they victimize women. Conversely, you have the guy who goes off about how women are all money hungry whores and spend…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/13 01:31 PM
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No, pestering someone for sex for 3 hours though is definitely harassment. Again, she's just as ridiculous for staying in there with a guy who's asking to fuck every 15 minutes
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/13 04:58 PM
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I'm pretty opposed to pamphlets like these that they hand out at universities, mostly because as you said it denies women agency in these situations and lays all the blame on the man, even in these purposefully ambiguous situations. Nonetheless, pestering someone for sexual attention is pretty lame, and I would definitely still consider this example sexual harassment. The girl could honestly be trying some form of hard to get, and thinks a handie makes it so that she doesn't seem too easy to thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/13 07:59 PM
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Well no shit, actors and actresses both have high social standing and generally look younger because they're healthier and more invested in their image than the general population. George Clooney's better looking than a good share of younger men and would be able to get with women even if hypothetically he found a group of women who didn't know who the fuck he is. Likewise, the fact that the actresses are famous and have higher social standing also makes them more attractive to men, this dichoto…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/13 09:29 PM
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Yeah but a tattoo artist really should not be considering work on a noticeably drunk person same goes that someone should not be trying to hook up with a noticeably drunk person. I agree that the issue does get hazy when alcohol comes into play but it is scummy to use someone's drunkenness as a means to your end
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/13 06:57 PM
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Which is funny, because his book Models is considered red pill material. Definitely not by him. I also agree with him on the false alpha/beta dichotomy. Glad you can see past the pseudoscience red pill jerks it to!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/13 12:11 PM
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Mark Manson I see as the antithesis to everything wrong with red pill, check him out.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/13 11:57 PM
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There are ill individuals who think like this, that rape is the women's fault because before she didn't consent it was something "beautiful" two people about to make love. These men go their entire lives believing all women are either frigid or coy about sex, and there's no such thing as consent because women never actually do that
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/13 06:15 PM
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A lot of TRP has tons of anxiety about the sexual habits of women, and seem to think all men care to the same level they do, and it's like evolutionarily ingrained or some shit, and no they don't and no it's not. They'll rationalize their anxieties with the whole "women who sleep around can't pair-bond" thing but what about men? "oh uh that's different" no. Whenever I can I'll keep relationships open, if neither of us is under any pressure to commitment and we're still hanging out at least twice…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/13 12:05 PM
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Not really, why does the visceral part come before the intellectual part?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/13 11:45 AM
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Glad to hear someone else with this perspective, RP would be fucking furious if I could make a post there about this but groups of Rad feminists and various factions of MRA and Red Pill are two sides to the same fucking coin, both are filled with reactionaries eager to see their unrealistic, ideologically fueled agendas come to fruition, often to spite an opposing group of people rather than seek a solution with mutual gains. It's like watching a lifelong democrat and republican fight over which…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/13 12:41 PM
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nothing, absolutely nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/13 12:14 PM
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I don't think there's something particularly wrong with something like this when both partners are sexually comfortable with one another and like being woken up into sex, for example, but the other way around doesn't sit well with me. It's not so much ethically wrong as it is I find it kind of creepy that the guy could get off pounding an unresponsive body. Also the idea of someone being so unenthused they knock out midway makes me question this fella's abilities in the bedroom
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/13 01:20 AM
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I have several friends, let's talk about one for the purposes of this post, who a large number of TRP and others would consider a total beta pussbag who couldn't possibly get laid, he's big on lgbt issues/feminism, moderately effeminate, overweight, bisexual, and somewhat unsure of himself and fairly self critical. TRP would take him as a bluepill example who no way in hell could get with an attractive girl without committing to be her doormat boyfriend and even then she'd be cheating on him. In…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/13 02:54 PM
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You're obnoxious as fuck and your condescension only serves to reinforce your lack of capacity to engage in reasonable debate, the kind that isn't "intellectually dishonest" Are you waiting on my replies?? I did misrepresent your argument somewhat, to make a point about how looking at the allocation of resources and occupations does not reflect some sort of normative truth about the way things ought to be. Women are underrepresented in STEM fields, as they historically have been, the gap is narr…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/13 04:15 PM
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Are you fucking serious right now? You're comparing my proposal that TRP hold itself accountable for the misogynistic and otherwise unconstructive and inflammatory posts that come out of it's less thoughtful members to Big Brother type censorship?? Well you did it wrong anyway, Winston, I'm not telling you to stop your thoughtcrime preemptively, I'm telling you that it should be reported to the Ministry of Truth and dealt with in post, get your dystopian lit references straight, GOSH
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/13 07:15 AM
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Idunno feeling the need to impose one's beliefs on other people's lives because their choices make one feel personally uncomfortable sounds pretty beta to me
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/13 10:51 PM
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So women were almost universally excluded from academia until the 20th century and excluded from what we now call "STEM" degrees and related career opportunities because they were satisfied with expectations of domestic life, and later on maybe a job in the service sector if their Mrs. Degree didn't get them that ring they oh so desired. intellectually dishonest Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/13 10:41 PM
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"priomordial level" haha alright. I like your advice about volunteering, if you're not looking to summon a misfit Thanksgiving/Day after thanksgiving (Turkeys 50-70% off!!) Then that's for sure a worthwhile way to spend the day off.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/13 03:30 PM
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Everyone RP here will say that these guys don't represent the views of all subscribers, which is true, but most of them have at least as many upvotes as downvotes, when they shouldn't be tolerated by anyone at all. It poisons and discredits your community and as concerned members you should be doing something about it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/13 07:39 PM
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Like eating disorders, docility, and low self esteem
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/13 07:32 PM
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Because science, reason etc. You constantly make these empty statements on how men and women like you expect people to nod their heads and go uh huh like this is /r/TheRedPill, these things may be true in your personal experiences, but not others
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/13 04:34 PM
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You're right, now read what I said again
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/13 04:33 PM
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Man I'm really curious to know the two people who went through the trouble to downvote this statement in particular. It's good to see you can openly recognize the limits of the community you're a member of, because that pushes people to actually do something about it, rather than get defensive and say nonono even if this and this might be wrong which I won't do anything about you're MORE WRONG SO SHUT UP!!! A lot of things red pill teaches can do good, and a lot of it can do bad, and even give c…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/13 02:31 PM
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The obvious yet admittedly unstated assumption was, "can these commenly held assumptions about women be disproven to a reasonable level?" "I can't prove it, but you can't disprove it, so I win!!" ok What a leftist calls "universal truths" are nothing more than fraudulent science (e.g. anything from a non STEM field, LOLOLOLOL) Can't argue with this. I really can't. With your dismissal you just threw out over a century of scientific research in sociology, psychology, anthropology, economics etc. …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/13 12:54 PM
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How exactly did that contribute to anything? We broke up mutually on amiable terms and she met her fiance a couple months later during her study abroad program, so yeah, she did find another man, and I found a couple awesome women over the course of the proceeding year.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/13 12:47 PM
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I'd argue we're approaching that singularity, very quickly
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/13 10:40 PM
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I'm near done with a psych and political science degree, I know for a fact that with a certificate where I'm from I could get a job starting at $40k with excellent job security. It's not much, but that's where my safety net of minimal ambition lies. If I earn a masters in industrial/organizational psych I'd start off around $50k with similarly excellent job security and could easily be earning six figures a few years down the road. The problem is not that those degrees are worthless, being educa…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/13 12:35 PM
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ie normal teenager with low self esteem. Congrats on your high smv?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/13 12:25 PM
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I kind of wanted to start a post asking number of partners, in relation to user's position on TRP/Opinions on male and female sexuality, but I didn't think it would go anywhere good. I'm strongly of the opinion number of sexual partners has a lot to do with the environment you're in, someone who's considered promiscuous in a small town could have had 20 partners by age 25, whereas a person who's 25 who has been with 20 partners in a metropolitan area would be seen as pretty normal by most. I'm a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/13 12:42 PM
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How do you account for differences of numbers of partners between men and women then? The conclusion that "men are more likely to pursue more partners than women, it's just how things naturally are" is well and good until you realize that, statistically, it makes no fucking sense
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/13 12:36 PM
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Men don't have it that easy. They have to put forth more effort into getting laid. A man with a high partner count signifies that he is desirable. See I've had this argument here before. It's not hard for men to get laid either, I'm sure you've heard "I can't fuck a 10 tonight but I could surely get 5 2's" from someone before? I'm sure you've met that dude who will fuck ANYTHING and has actually been with a few beautiful women but had dozens, maybe hundreds of women he'd rather not recall fuckin…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/13 10:58 PM
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I was fortunate that, during the time in my life where I decided to radically self improve myself, that I had met great people who taught me that you can be categorically successful in anything without necessarily fucking other people over. I've touched on this in a post asking for alternatives to RP or something, I had the great fortune of being shown how to talk to girls and command respect from those around me without the misanthropic, miserly mentalities that pervade in so many realms of men…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/13 05:15 AM
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This post really spoke out to me just now, occasionally I still think to myself, eventually, I'll be at a state in body mind and soul where I'll be totally content with how awesome everything about myself and my circumstances are and I can go back to cruising by. But cruising by never cut it when I was unsatisfied with my life, and it won't ever even if I'm in a lot better shape and have better friends and am more self sufficient and more well respected by the people around me. As much as I feel…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/13 04:59 AM
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She was going to Denmark on a study abroad program. She offered to wait for me and that she'd even visit for a week before her return, as much as I appreciated the sentiment and was pretty into her I was not interested in any period of celibacy at that time and she was, though better than years past, by most measures, fucking nuts. She met her fiance there and is doing really well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/13 04:36 AM
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How does this differ for men though? This is what we're asking. I'm pretty sure myself people who don't associate sex with love are less likely to hold a commitment contingent on sexual monogamy, that doesn't change that trp makes unverifiable claims about women possessing shitty qualities - that are absent, or at least, much less present and generalizable to men, or flat out good qualities, in their tendency to categorize men with high partner counts as more desirable than a woman with high par…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/13 04:25 AM
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Real shame this is a throwaway :(
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/13 09:51 PM
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Can you just close this before bad things happen? Might as well start a thread "Can anyone prove TRP actually works?" or "What evidence is there for-" I was gonna finish the latter with female oppression then I looked at the title of this thread. This is an open platform for bullshit and strawmans to the nth degree, I don't see anything constructive coming out of this Edit - This is a throwaway account posting, I say that's further reason to close this one down because OP is just coming in here …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/13 05:33 PM
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Pretty much what I wanted to say, so OP, can you prove any of these things with the tables turned? And since you're all fans of anecdotes proving your biotruths I had an ex who had, by her own account, close to 100 partners (estimated at 94 or something with me) and in a lot of ways our relationship was one of the most fulfilling I've had at that time in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/13 02:34 PM
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loathe backwater hut cultures Holy shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/13 03:00 AM
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what about all the patriarchal cultures that still live in grass huts, and other such primitive hunter/gatherer cultures? Did women sabotage the men's ideas for advanced civilization too?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/13 02:58 AM
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So as someone living in the developed world, all of your problems are invalid and don't deserve attention? I'm mentioning first world problems because we're talking about first world problems, I even tried to meet you halfway and tell you I'm deepy distrustful of the same bourgie, know-what's-best institutions you are, Christ. I'm not arguing the position of a traditional housewife in the developed world was more difficult than that of someone in the developing or undeveloped world, I'm not even…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/13 09:55 PM
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what the actual fuck? whole 50's housewife thing, communist operators, huh?? You're telling me that a group of people were uniformly content, that valium was just mommy's little helper and is not symptomatic of any deeper distress in their lives, and any ideas to the contrary are just commie propaganda?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/13 09:51 PM
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I'm definitely not a fan of rad fems, or anyone, blind to the insularity of their upper class upbringing and academic experience. What passes for oppression amongst many of them truly reflects on their inability to understand what real world problems the less fortunate experience. That doesn't mean there isn't people living their lives in silent desperation to prove some point about how perfect their life is, what else do you think got Valium the name "mommy's little helper" among stay at home w…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/13 07:29 PM
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Read /r/DeadBedrooms , many posters are women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/13 12:27 PM
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At least you're consistent here that promiscuity is bad for men and women, Whereas I would absolutely disagree that suppressing sexuality is what will make for more stable relationships, it'll just lead to more lying and cheating going on as promiscuity leads to more social disapproval. It's like the war on drugs, reducing supply doesn't reduce demand, it just shoots up the price and makes for a bigger market. Having sex with too many people you don't know is symptomatic of underlying problems, …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/13 08:17 PM
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In society, or women of society? What's a normal count for a man, and a woman, say at age 30?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/13 07:45 PM
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I don't give a shit what the average or median is, and neither should you, do you consider yourself part of the average or median? Society attempts to control the availability of sex, as you all well know, and shame people for their sexuality, women particularly in more masculine-oriented societies. The fact is for people who are aware of their own sexuality and don't let social norms dictate their behavior and aren't interested in either commitment or celibacy that it's really easy to meet a co…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/13 06:49 PM
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nature fallacy, one that doesn't stand up either. Polyamory was and is still practiced by many cultures and is much more natural than the recent institution of marriage/monogamy. Female/Male promiscuity occurs in animals too, see horses. Also I'm sure animals keep track of their partner count, why the fuck wouldn't they right?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/13 06:38 PM
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I'm not saying I would reject a woman if she'd been with 30 guys before 30 Partners is not a lot. Let's say you're 25, and you've been sexually active since you were 17. That's less than 4 partners on average a year. Let's say 5 of those were serious, and you were more or less monogamous during each of those for 6 months, just for the ease of maths let's round that up to 3 years total. That's only slightly over 6 partners yearly for the aggregate 4 years you were single. Also, the divorce courts…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/13 06:31 PM
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You're right on both points, but you're extrapolating from the main point and letting it go, stay sharp. RP, why is ALL women want something from men and they are ALL prepared to whore themselves out to get it. (62 upvotes, 19 downvotes) Any different from saying, or more true than "ALL men want something from women and they are ALL prepared to whore themselves out to get it". Go
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 07:01 PM
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You completely switched subjects between the first and the last two sentences
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 06:37 PM
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You really, really should look up that strawman thing people keep telling you about that you keep on doing. There is literally nothing I could respond to here. Even discounting that that's absolutely not what I said, it's not even the correct pronoun to misrepresent what I said; you in a rhetorical sense /=/ he in a literal sense in any language on any planet in this particular realm of reality
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 05:32 PM
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Agreed, the aspects advocating personal growth and accountability for one's own actions is great. A lot of men and women are confused and uncertain in the constantly, rapidly evolving social order around us, and seeking role models, guidance, and advice are really important to maximize a person's potential. All the categories of awful awful bullshit OP mentions are not - Unverifiable, unsourcable blanket statements Entitlement to sex and companionship of "good" women Evobio/Evopsych pseudoscienc…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 06:16 AM
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I think your fight is with human nature then. Most people don't have that level of 'honor', and never will. It's not how we're built. Try as hard as you want to change it, you'll be wasting your time. I for one believe in being accountable for my own actions and not blaming my circumstances on forces beyond my control. To each their own. Also, just because you get a lot of women in the first place doesn't mean you're going to turn down a hot married girl It does if you have any sense of self con…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/13 09:41 PM
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You are not the part of red pill that most of us have qualms with. Obviously you're well adjusted and, even if you don't have the same views on gender as me, you believe treating people (which include women, in your case) with respect is not bitchass blue pill behavior. I don't care if you think otherwise, you cannot deny that a lot of rp'ers do not align in your thinking when blatantly misogynistic and spite-ridden posts get at least twice as many upvotes as downvotes. What keeps one "plugged i…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/13 09:30 PM
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Doesn't make it any less scummy. Someone's obviously intoxicated and hands you a $100 instead of a $20 to pay for their drinks, not your fault, seizing opportunity when it presents itself and all, humans gather resources when they're scarce, it's evoscience-approved! The thirst-levels of trp that you guys think hitting on people in troubled relationships is totally cool says a lot about how satisfied you are with your sex lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/13 09:18 PM
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So you're telling me you see how it's problematic for society to differentiate men and women in how they're socialized from a young age, but you also believe that the way feminism treats men and women like they're all just people with slightly different bodies is a problem, and strong gender roles are absolutely essential to a functioning society. ...Huh??
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/13 09:14 PM
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Your arguments almost always rely on biological/evolutionary determinism and seem to brush away social factors as trivial, or at least not worth discussion, yet you're part of a community that asserts that feminism and the lack of solid gender roles in todays society as having immense impact on our behaviors that greatly burden the welfare of it's people. Why is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/13 09:08 PM
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Strawman it UP UP UPPPP He highlights the posters need to put his dick in this specific girl, and it is absurd, to say you need to specifically fuck this person, because you don't, and if she doesn't want, you shouldn't. Poster /u/theredpillmorpheus points out the following contradiction in this guy's post - "My goal was to just dance and have a good time" "I totally gave up my needs (which was to put my penis in her) in order to make her happy. " You seem to have no problems that this guy's not…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/13 05:44 PM
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Men have this desire see but they keep it in check, meanwhile women have this uncontrollable urge to get rammed by the mostest alpha and they suck and we have to control them because of that. It's not sexist because it's true, and it's true because science. More insecure TRP men projecting their insecurities about women plotting against them. This guy's pretty much projecting himself as "the middle east guys" and rationalizing his needs to proscribe and control female behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/13 01:08 AM
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I've dated standard alpha guys and it's like two bucks fighting ("shut up and lie down!" "YOU shut up and lie down!") But that's the best kind of sex...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/13 11:24 PM
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Are you familiar with the Red Pill concept of female solipsism? You may want to review it in relation to your post very, very closely. Edit - you also may want to read the bit where he speaks on how like attracts like.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/13 11:09 PM
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Ok that was definitely inappropriate posting but I just feel like I'm repeating myself and these arguments are going in cycles. Would copy paste recycling my own comments be considered inappropriate as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/13 02:27 AM
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One of my key problems with red pill mentality, the ongoing view that male-female relations are antagonistic in nature and it's always in your best interest to act selfishly, which, of course, ends with serious distrust on both sides and mutual loss.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/13 12:00 AM
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Because we all know Red Pill sees the world as it is, and everyone else is still "plugged in" to the feminist brainwashing narrative meant to keep us blind from the one truth. This is the problem, there are some of you so ingrained with the redpill bluepill Matrix analogy and the circle jerk that is your subreddit that you think it's some sort of objective fucking world view you're now a privileged member of, and anyone who dissents is just a poor fool who's "plugged in"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/13 02:32 PM
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Yeah but you can do that without the condescension
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/13 02:25 PM
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A good portion of these guys would call you a pussbag for that
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/13 06:34 PM
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+1 man, so that makes at least two valid dissent by RP count
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/13 06:17 PM
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Because the way TRP uses it means absolutely dick. They interchange the convoluted made up meaning of it in the manosphere and swap it for the words "selfish" and "ignorant" when women do anything that could in some vague way be described as an unawareness that their experience differs from others. Either way it's always just more arsenal to perceive women's experiences as illegitimate, same as hamstering -oh but men hamster and solipsize tooo...but women do it way way way way way more, because,…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/13 12:48 PM
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Because coercing someone to do something they wouldn't do when they're sober when they're drunk is a scummy thing to do. Same rule would apply to finding someone tripping some LSD, and convincing them the fate of the universe depends on them giving you their credit card to have an extraordinary night of debauchery. It's shitty not only because you're deceiving them, but you're deceiving them in a state that you know they are particularly vulnerable in.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/13 08:08 PM
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Strawman it up! I said that Is it any worse for a girl to influence a guy into having sex by putting on make up and lingerie? Or for a guy to embellish his salary on OKCupid (a known indicator for response rate)? is an awful comparison to preying on the drunk and judgementally impaired, which it is. I don't like chicks who wear make up but you have to be mentally deficient or have poor conception of what people look like to not understand someone's make up changes their appearance, and lying abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/13 07:20 PM
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I don't and never said nor suggested that I do, now, why do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/13 07:08 PM
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I literally don't even know what you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/13 07:05 PM
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You answer first
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/13 06:58 PM
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Is it any worse for a girl to influence a guy into having sex by putting on make up and lingerie? Or for a guy to embellish his salary on OKCupid (a known indicator for response rate)? That is an AWFUL comparison. Edit - Answer : Yes, a lot worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/13 06:44 PM
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This comparison is a meaningless straw man given that black men are STILL disadvantaged socioeconomically compared to almost every other group, including black and white women. Not to mention the smaller population to begin with. I never said that white women are less privileged than black men, I certainly believe men face special problems and being a black man (particularly in the United States) is a pretty fucked deal because if you're not upper middle class you can pretty much expect going to…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/13 12:33 PM
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simplepill really likes to shift the goal posts, it's kind of difficult to play along with all that
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/13 08:11 PM
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I actually tried looking up these sources and couldn't find the first two but the first seems to be the article's way of brushing aside criticism of IQ testing, which is a great way of saying "I got the facts and you can't argue with me, let's get that first and foremost out of the way." And I counter with no you fucking don't have all the facts and you can't first and foremost get that out of the way, one article that cites one study on the subject does not sweep away the fact that IQ is correl…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/13 08:04 PM
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Numbers are just easy. Fact is, the top 1% of women take a little more than "just be yourself". Then again, you wouldn't know that. Meanwhile I'm sure you know how to game the shit out of 'em d00d bro5 Keep trying to convince yourself the reason you date an average looking is because you like her "personality". Everyone dates as well as they possibly can, you are no different. Actually nahhhh u bang all the fatty 4s n 5s d00d we get the 9s n 10s lololo ur game is beta as fuk
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/13 12:00 PM
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why hasnt the black Mozart, da vinci, aristotle, newton or tesla cropped up yet? where are all the black polymaths who have always existed but were just kept down by whites? where are the innovative, visionary black architects? th extremes, while women normally stay in the middle. This is probably why you'll have more male intellectuals than female ones. Because science, reason, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/13 11:51 AM
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I can understand conflicted male desire towards younger girls, but again that's not what bothers me. You seem to be suggesting that in a man's ideal world if he had the opportunity he would go after exclusively younger girls and never ever even consider a woman over the age of 25. I've seen this sort of shit posted by red pillers and it's creepy and has a ring of predator-ness that doesn't sit well with me at all. In polygamous and primitive societies I can totally see having very young wives as…
/r/RedPillWomen21/10/13 12:20 AM
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No see I understand all that, that's not what's disgusting to me, it's that you think that that development bracket of preteens to teens are most desirable to men, and, given the opportunity, all men would only shoot for those girls, and that a man would only have sex with someone such as you, because they don't have the opportunity to or don't want to risk having sex with an over-developed 12 year old.
/r/RedPillWomen20/10/13 01:47 AM
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so a 12 year old is a sexually mature post-pubescent...
/r/RedPillWomen19/10/13 09:14 PM
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i believe homosexuality (like male HETEROSEXUALITY) is always hebephiliac or ephebophiliac, an the only thing that makes any male have sex with non-adolescents is lack of opportunity/law/social shaming That is a pretty disgusting thing to say
/r/RedPillWomen19/10/13 06:21 PM
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He totally identifies with the challenges that women face and identifies with none of the challenges that men face I guess non-rpers care more about the problems of humanity as a whole, because we don't perceive a dichotomous outlook on what's man and woman and understand that everyone has struggles regardless of their gender. What's all this talk about YOUR problems anyway? What's so alpha about concerning yourself with your problems instead of the people around you?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/13 08:06 PM
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Thanks for contributing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/13 04:50 PM
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and I'm not even saying everything is correct about the theory. You're right, it's speculation, and like all speculation there are some things you can affirm are mostly true (exercise, socialize more, do things that raise your value as a person and you'll get attention from the oppositesex!) and things that are dubious or straight up wrong (all women are hypergamous and seek to mate with the male who has the highest status so you got to make them think you're the alpha-est alpha male, all women …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/13 04:49 PM
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Right, there's all sorts of lenses through which to observe our behavior, and it's good to hear you're aware of the subjective nature of these various lenses even if you yourself subscribe to a particular one, but red pill will often assert contestable evo bio and even more contestable evo psych stuff as objective and dismiss any disagreement as part of the feminist brainwashed blue pill mode of thought, it's in the name, red pill, the assertions you guys make when you're on your page almost alw…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/13 12:16 PM
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I meet maybe 70-80% of the women I hook up with during the day and only 20-30% in night time venues so write me off as "doesn't count" either
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/13 10:48 PM
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So red pill only works for the average every day man and anyone who gets laid without red pill is an outlier and doesn't count, ok you can keep conditionalizing the terms of red pill, that way eventually fucking no one will subscribe to the ideas of red pill and instead listen to some sane self improvement stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/13 10:43 PM
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That was my bad to an extent, I was busy and couldn't check out the vid beyond two minutes and heard them incorrectly labeling people as monkeys which didn't sit will with me and x'ed it out. Vid's pretty interesting but I stand by in saying that a bunch of it is pseudoscience at the rank of that british show Braniac. So yeah my bad in thinking they'd be taking monkey behavior as analogous to human behavior, but human behavior is nonetheless not analogous to chimp behavior, or bonobo behavior (t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/13 10:24 PM
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ok thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/13 10:10 PM
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We're also not in the same family as monkeys, primates are an order, monkeys are a family within that order, so that's another assertion on your part that doesn't stand to science. As someone who is also very interested in human and animal behavior I am acutely aware that many of the decisions we make are informed by subconscious mechanisms, however, viewing our lives, us humans, as being predominantly the product of those subconscious mechanisms does very little to advocate personal responsibil…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/13 04:46 PM
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Way to double post...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/13 04:21 PM
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he exclusively dates feminists. That's because everyone who believes in gender equality is a feminist, whether they identify as one or not. This is analogous to a black guy telling a group of Republicans how much he likes conservatism or hates Obama, So, now all blacks have to align with the political beliefs of other blacks...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/13 04:21 PM
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I didn't go through your posts to confirm but by your name I was guessing you're a woman...right? Not following what you mean about tones I'm speaking in...internet's pretty tone deaf when you don't use any formatting I'm taking the silence on the monkey's bit as concession that there was no reason to say "we are monkeys" other than to (attempt) refute a valid criticism
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/13 04:12 PM
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I knew as soon as I typed the flip "we are monkeys" comment, someone super cereal was going to come along to correct me Good because it's absolutely fucking wrong, you might as well say humans are sea lions that still walk on land most of the time, why would you say something not true if you knew someone would come correct you? Yes I am a biological determinist Kant's made-up stuff has no bearing in how humans actually are they are just words describing how he imagines people should be but the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/13 03:56 PM
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we are monkeys No we aren't. Like not in a "I don't really think you can say that" kind of way I mean in a "We factually aren't monkeys" kind of way. We are primates, and even within primates there are extremely different social structures within groups. In many there's a strict hierarchy where males are concretely the dominant sex, in others there is more egalitarian social groups such as in Bonobos, and in no fucking way does science indicate that our social hierarchy is analogous to chimps ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/13 03:22 PM
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You are what we call "a natural". no no NO you do not get to cop out and say "oh well that only works for you because you just got natural game like that" you think red pill is the fucking key to getting the attention and attraction of women and it's objective and ground in science and anyone who doesn't think so is some white knight beta orbitting shithead then someone pops up who knows how to interact with women without the aid of some circlejerk about the evopsych behind female hypergamy and …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/13 12:57 AM
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Haha I'm glad someone else has had the image of wildly grinning girls thrusting down on a dick-based carousel of joy, it really helps take away the bitter taste of angry sex starved woman hater you get from the dudes that use that term
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/13 12:15 AM
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Take care of your appearance and the other three factors I mentioned. It's that simple!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/13 12:10 AM
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Being interesting and attractive and confident and honest about what you're looking for
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/13 04:40 PM
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First of all I'd like to do away with the whole "female sexuality is taboo" as a social norm. (that encompasses sexualization of breast feeding, placing judgement on women who have many partners, forcing abstinence on teen girls and instilling the belief they're only as pure as their vaginas are, etc) I was about to write something to this effect when it got me thinking, this isn't to generalize everyone that subscribes to that stuff, but it seems trp and pua types that are most defensive of and…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/13 01:28 PM
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Problem being trp's supposedly objective view of how the world works is as subjective as any other and doesn't necessarily reveal any greater truth than the next world view.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/13 12:57 PM
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If you approach 100 women one on one at random in a club with "I got a nice place 10 minutes away from here where we could hook up, you wanna ditch this place and spend the night with me?" You've got good odds of getting laid that night, why don't you just do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/13 12:54 PM
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What if I don't think anything exists? What if it's all an illusion meant to keep us blinded AHHHH NOTHING IS REAL
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/13 12:49 PM
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God damn that guy is creepy, you have to realize that he's really got a lot of self esteem issues that he's literally stalking your posts and targeting you like this, quit engaging him and if he continues report him
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/13 05:13 PM
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Is what I was getting at with the solipsism bit of my response to danabanana, applying your experiences in life (i said men dont care about a womens career, i have never seen any indication FROM MEN, from mens perspective, talking to men about men and what men want that that is true) to make claims about an objective reality where men don't desire this and that and so forth, lots of men find ambitious driven women attractive. women attractive as mates because they wont be able to pay enough atte…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/13 09:41 PM
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The part about men not having the same qualifications for attractiveness as you or the part about "female solipsism" being exactly what trp does when they base their ideas of men and women off of their anecdotes and experiences? Sorry I went off on a tangent about the latter but I'm not sure how you couldn't catch those...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/13 05:43 PM
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i dont know what youre talking about when you say perfect or are discussing what people "should" do. people should do whatever they want, god bless them one and all. Cool, we're in agreement! but what they do has real world consequences that dont care what you think "should" happen Sure... men dont care about female career status at all when determining if she attractive, at all. it doesnt add to her already existent attractiveness in general and in fact detracts from her attractiveness as a mat…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/13 05:15 PM
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Equality goes far beyond legal rights. Gays have the right to marriage, so long as it's between a man and a woman. Blacks have the right to vote, so long as they don't live in a jurisdiction that criminally persecutes their communities relentlessly then denies them their rights after they've served their time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/13 07:07 PM
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Violence against men? What? You have to clarify what you mean here. He uses knocked across the head in an obviously figurative sense, how do you knock someone across the head with an abstract idea? Dealing with single mothers who lack the resources to take care of their children is actually an area in policy America that's really lacking compared to other developed nations. You're talking to the wrong feminists homes, you know how when we point out particularly vile trp'ers and you come in to sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/13 12:02 AM
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You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it. -Morpheus :)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/13 04:32 PM
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If you're so up on free speech you should campaign for trp to not ban folk for dissenting opinions
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/13 04:30 PM
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I guess that was phrased rather ambiguously, considering anyone who believes women should have rights is a feminist, ironically making a fair part of trp feminist whether they like it or not. Baumeister is a feminist, Maher and Obama are certainly feminists. I'm really skeptical of any trp subscriber, and even more of on mens rights subscribers knowledge of feminism whenever they bring up the subject. I strongly get the impression a lot of you think feminist is spearheaded by radfems who are foc…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/13 04:09 PM
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Right, TRP uses helpful stereotypes when they say women are hypergamous and ride the cock carousel through their youth and hamster and are solipsistic (Ridiculous use of the word btw, I'm not sure how many TRP'ers who say that even know what it actually means) and don't have intellectual interests outside of the realm of their immediate needs, but when someone concludes that TRP has a bunch of angry inferiority-complex ridden dudes pissed off that they're not getting laid or simply not getting t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/13 10:02 AM
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So you're arguing now that, even if certain women are just as competent as men are in a field, and at least part of reason for the lack of women in that field is due to a measurable cognitive bias, they shouldn't enter it because the hordes of women filing sexual harassment suits will do serious damage to the firm or institution? I need you to understand it's comments like these, and not an organized brigade effort to hinder red pill contribution, that gets you such harsh reception here.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/13 12:27 PM
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Likewise, I don't necessarily agree with a lot of your viewpoints but I've upvoted much more than downvoted your comments because you acknowledge your opinions are yours and not necessarily connected to some sort of objective truth, nor do you act as a red pill apologist (These statements of fact are simply generalizations, taken out of context, you don't even have a concise definition of red pill theory etc) you're actually interested in discussion rather than defending red pill and complaining…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/13 12:22 PM
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This. This post (redpillschool's) actually makes me sad. I already had a strong bias against him but for now any posts I see by redpillschool will be predominantly colored by this one post, even though I understand it was probably written in a moment of anguish. I'm now more than ever aware that hatred of others stems from anguish caused by the sample bias people experience in dealing with other people. "Women are lazy, selfish, solipsistic, and live off the work of men" "Blacks are lazy, illite…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/13 12:04 PM
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Post Masculine/Mark Manson is one of the few sources for men's self improvement I've seen that isn't loaded with livid hatred and contempt for women, though I do believe for that reason he no longer identifies as a pick up artist? Correct me if I'm wrong. Like a lot of red pill he's skeptical of feminism but doesn't denounce it as a movement to manipulate men into subsidizing the lives of women to the detriment of mankind, and holds a vastly more positive view of male female relations than trp. …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/13 06:56 PM
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So you're doing exactly what I thought you're doing, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/13 03:54 PM
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This brings up to mind the time I unfortunately stumbled across a forum for (semi literate, self hating) black americans and a bunch of dudes were explaining why black women were objectively disgusting compared to white women by posting pictures of "thick" white women and "thick" black women. The posters would post shots of obviously brushed up, well choreographed shots of thicker but in shape white models and compare it to camera photos of morbidly obese black women to support the claim. When q…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/13 02:49 PM
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The objection TBP raises with TRP is not how effective the basics of RP thought are at improving success with women, it's the shit storm of antisocial, regressive and misogynistic thinking that accompanies it because the majority of the dudes on the board are former "nice guys"/"bluepill" turned bitter angry "redpill" swearing vengeance on the female race by getting laid and treating women like shit now because they didn't get enough female attention in their low self esteem, high bodyfat baseme…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/13 02:24 PM
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I don't disagree with the entirety of the red pill philosophy because I understand it encompasses a lot of stuff, about finding identity as a man in a world where masculine identity is becoming increasingly ambiguous and improving your success with women and realizing your full potential and all that good shit, and to disagree wholly with something as broad as red pill ideology is a visceral, reactionary thing to do. That said, red pill often has visceral, reactionary opinions on a broad range o…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/13 10:11 PM
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Feminism doesn't think anything it's a fucking idea that encompasses multiple perspectives and political movements. MRA types use feminism conveniently to encompass and belittle the ideas their reactionary idealogy holds itself in contrast to, ie anything a woman has ever said that's ever pissed them off
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/13 12:08 AM
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Yeah, it does have assumptions, because it's a hypothetical, pretty standard fare. I never claimed to be in the norm, though you fallaciously continue to postulate yourself as part of some objective "norm"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/13 12:02 AM
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I'm a man, I don't prefer virgins, as a matter of fact if a girl was anyone other than someone i deeply felt a connection to and told me she was a virgin, or she was explicit that it's something she just wants to get over with and isn't seeking any further commitment from me, I'd probably have a really fucking awkward night of putting my clothes back on and telling her I'm not the guy for her. Given the choice of sleeping with a girl who's slept with 2 men her whole life, and one who's slept wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/13 09:12 PM
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"Men see virgin women as a rarity and good catch." You'd be surprised to learn that a lot of dudes actually aren't into prowling for high school girls. Generally I prefer a woman who's had a similar amount of sexual experience with a few partners. A chick who just lays there not knowing what they should do is slightly more attractive than humping a pillow. The red pill makes the assumption that all men want what red pill wants and all women should listen to what red pill wants because red pill k…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/13 07:23 PM
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I'd have to agree. BAC I'm sorry if this sounds like I'm picking on you but your replies give me a strong sense of the TRP community's fixation on gender norms as symptomatic of an intense anxiety and misunderstanding of female sexuality, and consequently a desire to prescribe and control female sexuality to make it easier for men to navigate through it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/13 06:44 PM
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I'd definitely like to get in on this debate. What if I told you TRPers that sex is relatively easy for me, as a "Blue Pill" man to get, as in I more often than not reject advances of women because they a) don't suit my tastes, or b) I'm totally dtf but they seek commitment out of me and out of personal preference (in sharp contrast to RP philosophy) choose not to deceive them into thinking I'm looking for something more than sex? Conversely, what if I were to tell you some of the most attractiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/13 01:52 AM
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