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| 1 | Girls got fed a line about relationships too growing up, just not in the way boys did.All the people who “told you” and “expected” and pressured and laid out society’s gender norms, etc will not be there for you in your dark night of the soul, spouse included, so fuck what they think. Choose what you can live with and create it for yourself. Life is short. It may feel cathartic to post here and get sympathy from other “oppressed” but it won’t change anything, but taking action and ownership over your life from this point forward just might. Good luck to you. Let's have this as th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/19 01:47 PM |
| 0 | Girls got fed a line about relationships too growing up, just not in the way boys did.If you want to be the equal of men then you'll have to unlearn that. Stress, challenge, difficulty and how you respond to that are a fundamental part of being a man. Becoming equal to someone isn't the same as becoming them, that's absurd. It's being accommodated as well as discriminated against in equal measure as someone else. I don't want access to his choices, I want the same freedom to make my own choices. If you want to live a life that is stress free because you have a man who revels in d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/19 01:36 PM |
| 2 | Girls got fed a line about relationships too growing up, just not in the way boys did.My favorite was from the line in Tyrone, "Every time I ask you for a little cash, you say no but turn right around and ask me for some ass." Except replace "cash" with "fucking anything". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/19 06:13 PM |
| -3 | Girls got fed a line about relationships too growing up, just not in the way boys did.All the wives want to be treated like an equal. But not many want to be an equal. They're a lot happier when they're with a guy thats smarter, wealthier, more mature, more successful. She wants a man she can trust to handle the important things. Not because she can't, but so she can be secure in knowing that even in her absence the important things will still get done. Less stress means more happiness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/19 05:59 PM |
| -1 | Girls got fed a line about relationships too growing up, just not in the way boys did.Women never make decisions in their own life stories, they are always allowing themselves to be pushed into things by society or whoever, and then they complain about not being treated like strong independent equals... We are a product of the society that created us. It created our parents. It created our grandparents. It's our natural habitat. If you think you're immune to it you're dead wrong. You're not writing this from a prison, I suspect. So you yourself follow society's rules everyday. Ho… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/19 03:13 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Women's standards aren't too high. Men are just losing these days.By the way, a girl doesn't have a false sense of entitlement about her so-called value if she is getting the kind of men she wants. What you think of her value doesn't matter. Her results do. This. Like women are going to take any man's 1-10 rating of her seriously. If he thinks a woman is below his standards he can shut his mouth and wait for a woman that does. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/19 05:09 AM |
| 1 | Why do women like to highlight their non-interest more than men?Men approach women at every opportunity, even when it's completely inappropriate and somehow think it's going to work out for him. The frequency can get annoying but the circumstances can be so absurd it's laughable. It's also just women's shared experiences with men. We've all been approached by a man at the worst possible time. We've all had to choose between taking the time to educate the guy or do what we have to to get him to leave us alone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/19 05:03 AM |
| 1 | The Atlantic: The Bored SexIt describes RP men's ideal relationship dynamic. A woman that's attuned to his needs and excuses bad behavior as enrichment. But also, she has to be both attractive yet unfamiliar enough to fuck. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/19 03:00 AM |
| 1 | A personal case study on virginity (24M)Just lie, genius. No one gives a shit about anyone else's sexual history except their own. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/19 12:18 AM |
| 1 | Is political division the cause of the disparity in the SMP?No, that's leftist word salad. I would just like y'all... to not be dicks. Women are dicks for wanting to live independently. Fine. At least if she has her own home she can lock the doors so not to hear the rage coming from her not being wedded. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/19 07:26 PM |
| 0 | Is political division the cause of the disparity in the SMP?"Compromise" means both sides give a little. I do think that if women are wanting their cake and to eat it too, it won't end well for either sex, nor society, because we ultimately will lend up at the "conflict" mode of resolution. Let's not forget that you're attempting to preserve a patriarchy, the same one women hate. And what we'll end up with will amount to "not a patriarchy", not some smoking crater and salted Earth. The conflict you elude to is for dominance over society. It's between whi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/19 05:43 PM |
| 1 | Is political division the cause of the disparity in the SMP?The options are to split into different ideological groups, for one group to concede to the other, or for either group to impose on the other. Separate, conform, or conflict. No gray areas. What you're doing is covertly offering what sounds like all three but is actually just one, concession. Because to reject both separation and conflict only leaves concession, which by the language they obviously expect the other side to do. So really, you want to know why women don't just concede to men. And … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/19 04:01 PM |
| 1 | Is political division the cause of the disparity in the SMP?I mean, there's a ton of people out there on a fucking tripwire, they're ready to bitch each other out rather than communicate civilly and hear reasonable discussion about differing political positions. Sigh. Ok, and if you explain your position and they still disagree? What happens then? And let's say "explaining it again harder" isn't an option. That just leaves war. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/19 03:22 PM |
| 5 | (Q4ALL) What are some statements you see often that you just can't believeWhen women act like they have some kind of flawless personality detector, "we can just sense those things" yet I see women in abusive relationships all the time. Abusers trap women. Emotionally, financially, any way possible. And they tend to attract women from abusive homes themselves. To her, abuse is normal. It feels like home. Women not having a damn clue of how hard it is for the average man to get pussy. We understand completely. We just value our bodies more than whatever discomfort men f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/19 03:05 AM |
| 0 | If TRP and MGTOW don't care about women, why do they constantly talk about women?"The greater good" being a patriarchal society. You see how "give me everything I want or the world will end" is a shit argument, right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/19 02:53 AM |
| 1 | The Atlantic: The Bored SexIf a guy plans to go to a club and gels a girl he is rich to hook up with her, you’re saying he is evil. If a girl just goes to the club and randomly joins up, she is ok? YES. Without an intent to deceive there's no moral issue. The sexes hate each other more and more and the hatred is what is driving all these mental problems. Men's solution? For women to concede autonomy and commit to upholding a patriarchal society. If they actually wanted to compromise there might be a conversation to be had… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/19 02:50 AM |
| 0 | The Atlantic: The Bored SexBoth marriage and children are now purely for recreation. They don't serve much of a purpose anymore. Women were around being fed their own narrative growing up, that marriage was fun. Of course, just like boys, that's an archaic notion taught to our mothers. Being a grown man's mother isn't fun, leading to an influx of traditionally minded men without a wife. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/19 11:26 PM |
| 2 | The Atlantic: The Bored SexWomen need to be honest with what they want and not expect men to cater to them, especially once they marry and have kids. "Women need to decide if they want to be employed or mothers. Then, if they want to be mothers, allow their husbands to do whatever they want, especially when they have kids." If men weren't so intent on getting 100% of any control there is over a relationship, there might be any kind of compromise to be had. At least women offer him his autonomy in exchange for her own. A m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/19 08:21 PM |
| 3 | The Atlantic: The Bored SexIntent is how one decides whether malice is appropriate. In this specific case, women aren't choosing to live autonomously with intent to spite men. Men have every right to be upset about the changing times, but women don't deserve any of the retaliation. It should be aimed upwards at the entities actually responsible for their plight. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/19 08:04 PM |
| 2 | The Atlantic: The Bored Sexit's an attempt to break down traditional ethnic/national social cohesiveness and replace it with different social structures where the largest racial/ethnic groups aren't the most powerful. Only because when those groups are in power they use it as a bludgeon. They can't be trusted. They can be an example of what not to do if you don't want to be hoisted from dominance by a society eagerly waiting your unseating. if it's ok for women to chase hedonistic personal fulfillment regardless of how it… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/19 06:35 PM |
| 1 | If TRP and MGTOW don't care about women, why do they constantly talk about women?They don't believe in "live and let live", at least when it comes to women. They either need to be in control or they're being controlled, no gray area inbetween. They think of us as semi-sentient appliances attempting to use ourselves for what they would intend for us. They see this as an attack, an attempt to exhaust a resource they imagine only they value out of spite. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/19 05:56 PM |
| 2 | The Atlantic: The Bored SexIt's almost as if there's a broad narrative in the West pushing for women as a whole to continually explore their sexuality in any and every way, regardless of any potential ramifications on family or society! What's the alternative? "Women need to live unfulfilling lives for the sake of preserving society". Half true, it's necessary for a patriarchal society, but we already know that's on the decline. And how interesting, women don't want to cohabitate with men. I see it as a very clear rejecti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/19 04:55 PM |
| 6 | The Atlantic: The Bored SexIt's interesting, it shows that relationships are happier when the couple doesn't live together. Relationships are failing because of familiarity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/19 04:33 PM |
| 1 | [Q4BP] How is MGTOW any different from pop-feminism?If the goal is to live by one's own agency it's not possible as long as indifference to others is, in and of itself, seen as enough to provoke attack. MGTOW don't believe in "live and let live". Shining a spotlight on the ideology exposes it for what it is, the desire for a coup against the government to reinstate strict patriarchal laws. The more it's talked about the more normalized it becomes. Let's face it, women aren't out of the woods yet when it comes to legal equality. And men stand to b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/19 09:44 AM |
| 1 | Where does the idea advice seeking men just need to "treat women like normal human beings or other friends" to be attractive enough come from? For how many of these dudes is this advice actually relevant?This is assuming the man wants a LTR. If he's treating a woman like a friend he won't be trying to hide parts of his personality that would make him undateable. That's not the best way for him to get laid, but only because women not interested in a ONS wouldn't continue to reciprocate when they otherwise would. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/19 05:06 AM |
| 1 | Should the number of men a woman has had sex with matter to a man?No. At best, it's a bad method for determining whether she'll end the relationship. At worst, it's a way for a man to affirm his own worth using her past. Either way, he shouldn't wrap others up in fulfilling his own egotistical needs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/19 04:34 AM |
| 1 | Men that would go on to abuse their wives and children SHOULD die alone.There would have to be some trial and error, as in, a man/woman would have already had to been abused and then reported it. We need a registry for domestic abusers that anyone can access. That way at least potential partners can make informed decisions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/19 03:55 PM |
| 1 | Men that would go on to abuse their wives and children SHOULD die alone.Women don't see sex as a reward. We understand that men correlate who we sleep with and how we want men to behave. We'd rather stay indifferent to men and whatever they interpret from our actions. Ideally, men would self-direct. Men choosing to study these trends are akin to witch doctors studying patterns of tossed chicken bones. It's not meant to teach or give hints to men, it's just random actions in time. Men really should give up hoping for anything different than the obvious, that there is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/19 09:19 PM |
| 1 | How would you feel about a man in his late 20's with an 18 year old wife?Anyone marrying before 26 is an idiot. Anyone marrying outside of their demographic sucks. Anyone older than 18 marrying someone 18 is a cradle robber. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/19 02:07 PM |
| 1 | Men that would go on to abuse their wives and children SHOULD die alone.I think if you took two men that were similar in level of physical attractiveness, one of them being a medium tier drug dealer, and the other working an office job, youd find that the drug dealer has fucked way more woman than the other guy, on average at least. So what? I guess if you consider sex a reward it's a gross injustice. I, and I believe most women, don't consider themselves trophies for good behavior. I would just assume the drug dealer is the better boyfriend. Or women addicted to dr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/19 02:03 PM |
| 24 | In today's society, men sleeping around is not just a luxury but also a necessity to gain the interest of womenBut any woman in a moderate sized city or college town has numbers closing in on 100 by the time she's 30. Absolute insanity. Listen to the women telling you what it's like to be a woman, genius. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/19 01:56 PM |
| 1 | Men that would go on to abuse their wives and children SHOULD die alone.He might not treat his girlfriends too badly. Ever consider that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/19 01:45 PM |
| 1 | Men that would go on to abuse their wives and children SHOULD die alone.Guys that behave like assholes to you may not necessarily be assholes to their wives or children. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/19 01:43 PM |
| 1 | Men that would go on to abuse their wives and children SHOULD die alone.Are you saying all ex-cons will go on to abuse their wives? Or are you upset that an attractive ex-con is seen as a better partner than an ugly law-abiding citizen? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/19 01:41 PM |
| 1 | Men that would go on to abuse their wives and children SHOULD die alone.The strongest males get to mate, the weaker ones get to be food for the strongest males both above and below them on the food chain. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/19 01:37 PM |
| 4 | The Rock Test: A Hack for Men Who Don’t Want To Be Accused of Sexual HarassmentI've heard "leave your dick at home". "Treat her like Ken would treat Barbie" also works but only with the added context that Ken has no penis. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/19 03:23 PM |
| 2 | Men that would go on to abuse their wives and children SHOULD die alone.There's nothing anyone, man, or child, can say to you to justify any kind of physical retaliation aimed at alleviating your own anger. Period. Your anger is yours to manage on your own while the other person faces no repercussions whatsoever. That's what that picture looks like. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/19 11:47 PM |
| 3 | Men that would go on to abuse their wives and children SHOULD die alone.I sometimes get an incredibly mixed messages from women about these things. Um, it can't be both. It is. "How's a man supposed to succeed then?" He's not. Fairness does not apply here. For him, it's more like a lottery, except he only gets one lifetime to try to win. Have men on this sub never seen a damn nature documentary? Everything you need to know about relationship dynamics is all right there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/19 07:23 PM |
| 3 | Guy gets sent to jail after girl lies about being 19 yrs old. Was justice served?Yes, justice was served. There cannot be any exceptions for having sex with a child. It should remain where it rightfully is, zero tolerance with heavy penalties and a negative social stigma reinforced at every available opportunity. Yes, he was tricked. Letting him go free tells the real abusers what they need to say to get away with it too. Everything he lost pales in comparison to the irreparable damage done to an entire generation of children if he'd won. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/19 09:14 AM |
| 3 | The redpill/backpill are helpful strategies for keeping you from getting hurt, but will prevent you from ever finding true loveI don’t like to think that negatively about it It's impossible that not one of them are like that. And if there are, I can't in good conscience hope they get what they want. No woman should be any man's bang-mommy unless she's into it. Something tells me guys like that aren't concerned with what women want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/19 06:51 AM |
| 2 | The redpill/backpill are helpful strategies for keeping you from getting hurt, but will prevent you from ever finding true loveRedpill/blackpill men want bang-mommies. A generation ago they would've had them, now women rightfully want nothing to do with these guys. So they're settling for plating women, their own strategy for forcing her back into a bang-mommy role with rejection of an "alpha" man intended as a form of discipline. This has "a man came up with this" all over it. They don't want true love. In another life they'd have their captive wives, who they also wouldn't love, to prove to themselves that they're not… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/19 10:14 PM |
| 1 | “Enjoy the decline”: My attempt to find common groundNo need to explain the dynamics. Men need to stop trying to convince people their shit arguments aren't shit and just make better arguments. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/19 09:14 PM |
| 3 | Why are there no heated debates between the women of PPD?Yes. Commence the "yeah bro you told that bitch!" chorus that accumulates beneath you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/19 03:37 PM |
| 11 | Why are there no heated debates between the women of PPD?"I expect an expensive engagement ring from a man". Another woman could reaaally disagree with that and think that's really unfair and demanding, but she won't feel personally attacked over it. This. Apparently, a man would consider this shaming. I'm not sure how one can take everything personally and still have energy to hear themselves think. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/19 03:13 PM |
| 2 | Why are there no heated debates between the women of PPD?It’s also true that the men here tend to agree with each other too, there’s plenty of circle jerking and agreement, I see that a lot. I'm not going to just comment that I agree with someone, that's what upvotes are for. I cringe every time I see it. Fucking dorks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/19 03:09 PM |
| 1 | “Enjoy the decline”: My attempt to find common groundBlue Pilled men see this, but believe it is what society is supposed to be. Red Pilled men know better. Let's be clear. RP men are arguing that society needs to be male dominated because a "not male dominated society" will assuredly collapse. That argument sucks. Male dominated societies have collapsed in the past, disproving any claim that men are better leaders. Further, it only stands to benefit men at the expense of everyone else. You might as well just skip the bullshit and tell people you … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/19 09:31 AM |
| 1 | “Enjoy the decline”: My attempt to find common groundThere are plenty of men that have, would or will. It'll be a genetic bottleneck with the adaptable men passing on their genes, good for children needing to navigate through the duration of this societal shift in the future. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/19 09:08 AM |
| 7 | “Enjoy the decline”: My attempt to find common groundso they have to settle down literally and end up in unfulfilling relationships with guys they don’t really want to be with. So they should settle for unfulfilling relationships with guys they don't really want to be with while they're young. That way they won't ever have to worry about having to settle for unfulfilling relationships with guys they don't want to be with when they're older. This is actually RP men's reasoning. They must really think women are dumb. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/19 09:01 AM |
| 3 | Q4RP, why are you guys so obsessed with feminism?I am endlessly confused as to how the very people who browbeat Christians for not accepting evolution themselves have such a poor understanding of it. We understand, but we don't have anything else to offer you. With our system, you will have to seek out help. You will be taught how to tolerate, not change, what's bothering you. If men don't like it that's understandable. His choice to refuse it is still unacceptable and won't be considered anything but a reason not to have anything to do with h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/19 06:17 PM |
| 5 | What are some things you wish men understood about women/the female experience?Can confirm, my record is four years. Porn is adequate, but I didn't spend my teenage years desensitizing myself to it, so yeah. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/19 05:38 PM |
| 4 | Q4RP, why are you guys so obsessed with feminism?Men want feminists to account for equality on their behalf. Real equality is having access to the same resources, that's it. One still has to organize those resources, which women do for themselves quite effectively. But men won't do the same for other men, they just cry for mommy to do it for them. Why do they hate men so much? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/19 05:25 PM |
| 1 | Being "nice" and being nice and how it relates to attraction.And those guys he was told not to be like? The bad boys, narcissists, sociopaths and the guys that bully/bullied him? Well they're just cleaning up in the SMP So you're saying that a man will determine another man to be "bad" because he bullied him? And that she's attracted to men specifically because they bullied them? Guys that assume this need to remove themselves from the situation. A guy that's an asshole to him might be a great boyfriend. They're mutually exclusive. If he's looking at it i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/19 07:11 AM |
| 1 | Is it possible that ego has more to do with current relationship dynamics than we thought?Men’s value to women is often found in utility. A woman’s value to men is usually as a reflection of his utility, by taking what he gives and organizing it in a way that shows their unit in the best light. I guess that all changed when women could use her own utility to organize at her discretion. Women thought men would follow suit, instead they freaked out. Its probably past the point of return. Her potential for getting more and doing better by herself is too valuable compared to anything she… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/19 06:25 PM |
| 0 | Is it possible that ego has more to do with current relationship dynamics than we thought?No shit, right? "I'm entitled to women and am enraged that their agency is getting in the way of my taking advantage of her." They don't have an argument that doesn't expose them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/19 04:09 PM |
| 2 | Is it possible that ego has more to do with current relationship dynamics than we thought?Why does that matter? If I'm right it doesn't matter what team you're fighting for. If you're not arguing about opinion you're either right or wrong. Refusing to accept being wrong isn't being right, it ruins your integrity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/19 04:06 PM |
| 2 | Is it possible that ego has more to do with current relationship dynamics than we thought?Ego is what they all have in common. The prostitute won't make him feel attractive, the high Ncount girlfriend won't make him feel valuable and the career woman is going to be too busy to validate him at all. It's by no means the one thing, just something noteworthy that's often overlooked. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/19 10:24 AM |
| 1 | Is it possible that ego has more to do with current relationship dynamics than we thought?Validating your partner is a full-time job? Yeah. Lets say someone's ego is bruised whenever you're better at something. That means you can only make them happy by seeming worse. All well and fun, but consider how far that goes. Apply that to things like education, employment, fitness, etc. Why don't you just write a megarant about your failed marriage and get over it already? Not much to tell. My ex-husband changed his mind about having kids. I still wanted kids. We had to get divorced, neither… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/19 10:14 AM |
| 3 | Men with unhealthy views on women are out of the dating market but women with unhealthy views on men aren't?What is the objective healthy view on the other genders. No it's not going to be the same for both. Live and let live. Don't worry about both what and who isn't in your immediate bubble. Trust people to be able to take care of themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/19 11:11 PM |
| 4 | Why do some men think niceness is supposed to illicit a sexual response?Everyone wants to be in a relationship with someone nice, or at least compatible enough not to impede basic everyday necessities like maintaining a job and a household. This is interesting. Men wanting to know what they have to do for women to want to have sex with them is an unanswerable question. Women don't work that way. Actually, there is one thing men can do, just want sex. As in, don't also try to validate your worth by feigning interest just enough to make her open up and reciprocate gen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/19 08:40 PM |
| 2 | BPD isn’t another word for crazy ex. It’s a real personality disorder, do not throw that word around unless your ex has actually been diagnosed by a psychologist. Odds are, you aren’t a psychologist. Stay in your lane.Can confirm, I have a narcissist parent. There's no treatment available. Therapist even recognize that they're hopeless. All a diagnosis would do would be to confirm to others that she has it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/19 04:39 PM |
| 5 | BPD isn’t another word for crazy ex. It’s a real personality disorder, do not throw that word around unless your ex has actually been diagnosed by a psychologist. Odds are, you aren’t a psychologist. Stay in your lane.Disagree. That's like saying your leg isn't broken until a doctor diagnoses you. Maybe all the details aren't perfect but when something seems off about someone that's all anyone needs to know. Don't ignore it just because you're not a doctor. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/19 04:28 PM |
| 1 | Q4women. Why do you nag?We're trying to pick a fight. We already have an idea of why you did or didn't do what we're nagging about. Most of the time he was trying to have his cake and eat it too, get out of something, do something he knew was a bad idea, etc. Ideally, a man would admit that he was being selfish and didn't care about how she would felt about it. That way she could just break up with him. But if he won't say anything there's a chance it was for a good reason. The more we like the guy (or the more they've… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/19 02:33 AM |
| 3 | Imagine a world where men were far more picky and hypergamousWomen do want sex too but also have no problem masturbating. I guess my point is that if men want to up their standards it won't work as long as women can walk away, and they can. Always. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/19 03:25 PM |
| 1 | Why are men’s dating preferences easily disregarded?I base this off the trend of the majority of animals on planet earth. The males consistently get the short end of the stick. The males of the human species are cognitive enough to realize it, but they're no less susceptible. Feel however you want, it won't change anything either way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/19 03:13 PM |
| 3 | Why are men’s dating preferences easily disregarded?Women aren't in this position and never will be as the selectors. Men and women play by different rules. Rules meant to weed out men. That should be obvious by now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/19 04:33 AM |
| 22 | Why are men’s dating preferences easily disregarded?Men aren't the selectors of the two genders. It's counterproductive for them to have preferences. They don't have a guarantee women will want him at any given time. He's a beggar with the audacity to be choosy. We tend to dismiss their preferences because we figure he'll get lucky and find a woman like he wants, will settle for what he can get or end up alone. Either way, there's no guarantee any one of them will guarantee his happiness. Better to let him learn for himself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/19 12:44 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Being Easily-Shamed Is Not AttractiveI agree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/19 12:37 AM |
| 0 | "Are you fat? I don't really do fat girls."No. Let's say he found out she was handicapped. He could feel the same way but he probably wouldn't say it outright. You can say it's because handicapped people aren't at fault, but let's say she hurt herself bungie jumping and it actually is her fault. He probably still wouldn't add insult to injury like that. Because deep down there is a motive, when doing to someone overweight, to insult. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/19 12:34 AM |
| 3 | "Are you fat? I don't really do fat girls."the article and the woman in question above appears to claim that refusing to date fat women is fat shaming. Lots of women online seem to follow this logic where any preference that excludes them is "shaming" them. She was taken back by how he wasn't ashamed to talk to her that way because she was overweight. It's difficult to imagine that someone would disqualify you from being treated with common decency because of your weight, but this guy is a clear example of the kind of mindset some people… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/19 04:07 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Being Easily-Shamed Is Not AttractiveThey block you because they don’t want to hear what you’re saying. Personal boundaries are non-negotiable. Why would you WANT to try talking to someone that wants to block you? You value continued contact with them over your desire not to comply with their boundaries. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/19 03:21 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Being Easily-Shamed Is Not AttractiveHow exactly are they being ostracized, though? It’s mostly a topic addressed in passive reading material that women identify with. These days, ostracizing is blocking someone on social media. Sometimes, that thing is men. Sometimes, people are unreasonable about the things they’re pissed about. The person saying it is giving you an ultimatum. Comply or the relationship will end. People's personal boundaries are their own. It's not up to you to decide whether or not they're reasonable. Anyway, th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/19 09:10 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Being Easily-Shamed Is Not Attractive"Shaming" in this context is more like "being corrected" or "being held accountable". We shouldn't leave off one important aspect of all of this. What these men are complaining about specifically is that they refused to comply *and were ostracized for it". I see it as an employee refusing to take orders yet still expecting to keep that job. Naturally, the boss would hire someone else that will do the job and the noncompliant employee would be removed from the premises. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/19 04:50 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Being Easily-Shamed Is Not AttractiveI did! The girls had a flag football team. Imagine six "Brienne of Tarths" from game of thrones. I mean, I didn't so much get bullied as much as I got a chance to occasionally rough house with them. They'd send me flying. Good times. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/19 04:27 PM |
| 6 | CMV: Being Easily-Shamed Is Not AttractivePeople aren't inclined to show empathy to people who show none to them or anyone else. This! Also, you can't be both strong enough to build a great society and not strong enough to be single at the same time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/19 04:24 PM |
| 1 | What should marriage-strategy be for someone who REALLY wants to scheme/plan/strategize, REALLY wants to think long-term, and REALLY wants to optimize their big-picture life-results (get the BEST spouse they possibly can and OPTIMIZE their potential)?How young should a man/woman marry in order to lock down an optimal spouse? Impossible. The law says she can leave when she wants, she leaves when she wants. Give up. Should one marry at/before their looks-peak in order to "cash in" optimally? No, you're too low value to make that bet and win. What about the "chance" element where you might not meet your optimal spouse at the age when it's theoretically optimal for you to tie the knot? Yeah, that exists, and it'll end up with you divorced. How m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/19 04:05 PM |
| 4 | How cognizant are you of the amount of eye contact you give to men?Absolutely. Men interpret every little thing as a woman being interested in him. A woman refusing eye contact is a signal to a man that's meant to be understood as a clear unspoken rejection of not necessarily him, but the willingness to feed his ego. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/19 03:32 PM |
| 4 | Believe all women VS Treat women with equalityRapes occur behind closed doors with oftentimes no eyewitnesses. It's "he said she said." It's a heinous crime, but for an investigator, it's damn near impossible to prove. I think the police treat rape victims the way they do because they really are trying to discourage victims from coming forward. Why? Because if they did, everyone would be able to see how ineffective they are at catching rapists. If that word gets out there could be a free-for-all that wouldn't have otherwise happened. Better… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/19 03:20 PM |
| 2 | Can a woman tell me why the hell being one grade level below someone is always 100% an immediate disqualifier?It's really not. I'd use it as an excuse to break up with someone I don't want to be with. I'm guessing they got a whiff of TRP. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/19 03:09 PM |
| 1 | What's with men and projection?Unless a woman sincerely and legitimately makes an effort to empathize with the male experience, odds are that her idea of what it has little in common with reality. This leads to a "no true Scotsman" situation where a woman that doesn't reciprocate a man's attention can be accused of not empathizing with the male experience. That's a disingenuous way of explaining things. This is, "you have to empathize with me", rather than, "let's determine if our experiences are compatible". It's a thinly ve… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/19 09:26 AM |
| 1 | What's with men and projection?Work in the service industry for a month and compare the tips you get, men vs women. In my experience, men tend to go overboard with jobs that aren't meant to be taken seriously. They get chewed up and spit out. Nobody likes an "attaboy". The amount of effort should equal the projected payout. Go be homeless and beg for change and see who gives you more, men or women. No amount of money you can give will actually help them. They need homes. If you really care to see the homeless get effective as… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/19 09:09 AM |
| 1 | Do women care more about looks then men now ?Looks are a factor, but women would prefer a man that doesn't make her life harder, that also happens to be good looking. Pain in the ass guys, no matter how attractive they are, usually end up alone in the end. An average guy that wouldn't be a burden is far more valuable than an attractive man with issues. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/19 07:05 PM |
| 6 | What's with men and projection?I agree. I wouldn't consider you incapable of empathy for not quitting your job and dedicating your life to his care. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/19 08:16 AM |
| 2 | What's with men and projection?Women have reduced sex drives compared to men. Men should consider what that would be like if they want to better understand women. But they refuse, instead preferring to apply some mutated version of their own drive rather than try and empathize. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/19 06:28 AM |
| 3 | What's with men and projection?I double dog dare you to assert that no, women are in fact empathetic. Empathy is just being able to understand other's emotions. No one expects someone reasonable to put their own self-interests on the back-burner on an empathic whim. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/19 06:25 AM |
| 2 | What's with men and projection?Projection is when you assume how you feel is how other people feel. In particular, men here like to think women are as sex crazed as they are. It's understandable how they can't imagine what that would be like, but just projecting their own drive is sorely inaccurate and downright lazy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/19 06:14 AM |
| 1 | Women have more power than men -- socially, politically, economically, etcI understand that, but this is already a risk that men face. Why is it so terrible that women should also face the same risk? It's not about preference towards women, it's about precedent and how our government works. Doing what you describe would indicate women had become second-class citizens compared to men in the eyes of the law. The available options for a government are to allocate equally to both or neither. The west chose neither, instead allocating resources to any children the couple m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/19 11:29 PM |
| 1 | Women have more power than men -- socially, politically, economically, etcThat would discourage divorce, don't you see? A spouse that knew they couldn't support themselves or children financially wouldn't be able to divorce. That disproportionately benefits men at the expense of women and children. Whatever men come up with won't be accepted if it means the ability to divorce is impeded in any way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/19 10:10 PM |
| 2 | How do you feel when a guy you consider to be "below your league" tries to hit on you?It depends. I don't feel inconvenienced at all by having to take a few seconds to turn a guy down. If he asks me more than once I get a bit peeved, but that's just my personal thing. If he's following me around I'm going to feel like stalked prey, that makes my fight or flight take over. If he's staring me down I'll assume he wants to fight me, that makes my blood boil. If he's just trying to get my attention I'll want to cut him. Or if he gets too familiar. Or if he attempts to demand anything … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/19 10:03 PM |
| 3 | Women have more power than men -- socially, politically, economically, etcLet's address the elephant in the room. As is stated multiple times a day on this sub, women initiate divorce more often than men. They like to say it's because it's more beneficial for her to divorce than stay married. Men won't state their demands outright, but what this amounts to is a demand for some sort of government-supported disincentive from divorce. This would disproportionately benefit men. The real-world consequences are their being freed from accountability in their relationships. I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/19 08:59 PM |
| 2 | “Well, in the future I’d like something serious, just not right now.”Right now, women outnumber men. That kind of dynamic always leads to higher instances of violence and infidelity. With no shortage of women there's fewer risks that treating a woman badly or not committing at all will result in him being single long-term. Settling down would mean a lot of missed opportunities for him. That won't change until the population numbers go the other direction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/19 08:03 PM |
| 5 | Explain the generational sex gap to me, graph in article link.The gig economy has people freaked out about the future. They might be able to make enough money to survive, but chances are they don't have health insurance. Neither men nor women have the money to spend on visits for birth control or a diagnosis for an STD. Sex right now could completely ruin their finances. And when you have no hope that the future will be better, you're more careful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/19 12:43 PM |
| 1 | (Toxic)Masculinity is necessaryTo be masculine is to survive and thrive for a man. He has to handle it himself because men wanting to help men is cringey MRA nonsense and women sure as hell aren't interested in helping men who can't help themselves. The fact that the help on offer is "cringey" is irrelevant. That's what they have, and it works. If he doesn't want it, it's on him. He's not above what everyone else has to work with. But if that's how he feels, to hell with him. Mock the dewinged bird for valuing its wings so mu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/19 06:45 AM |
| 5 | What have you learnt throughout your 20s?Don't. Get. Married. You. Idiot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/19 06:24 AM |
| 2 | Do you think that there is someone for everybody? Or are there some people who are destined to be alone?I can't help but think about all of the people that would go on to abuse their partners. I don't necessarily think they're destined to end up alone, I just hope they do. For the sake of all of the people they'd hurt I honestly hope no one falls into their trap. They might be lonely, but whoever they end up with might as well be a sacrifice to a monster we don't want to turn their fury on everyone else. I'd much rather destroy the monster than waste an innocent placating it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/19 06:23 AM |
| 1 | Is there a reason why men in the manosphere are obsessed with masculinity/being masculine?Fifity dollars says Eartherry's next comment will look similar to one of these possible responses: Are you waiting for me to agree with you? You can get that right now, you just have to be right. Additionally, one aspect of a woman's power fantasy entails a view of men who are good in the sense that the men who are in her life are either gay or submissive. That's only if you have the black and white view that if you're not in control you're being controlled. The ideal would be a man looking to n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/19 01:02 AM |
| 1 | What exactly is a Soyboy? Does it simply mean a younger man who's more effeminate?It's the newer generation of men that didn't grow up having the traditional marriage shoved down their throats. Having graduated into a recession, they've understood for some time that having a wife that doesn't work would ruin them. Also, the gig economy has them freaked out about sex. Oftentimes, there aren't any benefits so anything that can happen could result in a medical bill they'll never be able to afford. So when they talk to women and aren't just thinking about sex they treat them the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/19 08:46 PM |
| 2 | What exactly is a Soyboy? Does it simply mean a younger man who's more effeminate?It's the newer generation of men that didn't grow up having the traditional marriage shoved down their throats. Having graduated into a recession, they've understood for some time that having a wife that doesn't work would ruin them. Also, the gig economy has them freaked out about sex. Oftentimes, there aren't any benefits so anything that can happen could result in a medical bill they'll never be able to afford. So when they talk to women and aren't just thinking about sex they treat them the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/19 08:46 PM |
| 0 | Is there a reason why men in the manosphere are obsessed with masculinity/being masculine?So wanting to be more masculine is defiance against what women really want, feminine traits. So the goal is for the majority of men to become hyper masculine so women have no choice but to accept it? And maybe might find they like it more (but men aren't actually interested in whether they like it). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/19 05:13 PM |
| 0 | Why do women deserve to be treated badly after making ‘mistakes’?Everyone’s gonna be resentful to a degree if a woman chose someone else over him. If she comes to him after it doesn’t work out, he’s gonna see himself as the backup. No man of worth would stand up for that. So what you're saying is that a man is always going to assume every man she's with is terrible, that she made a terrible mistake, is being abused, and wouldn't help her leave that if given the opportunity. Do men really have nothing but malice for both other men and women they're with that m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/19 04:11 PM |
| 0 | Why do women deserve to be treated badly after making ‘mistakes’?Why allocate time towards problems that aren't our responsibility to fix? Men are capable of solving their own problems. But hey, you can lead a horse to water... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/19 04:01 PM |
| 2 | Men would rather be alone forever than be seen as repulsive in the eyes of a woman for a brief momentRight, sleeping beauty would still need to be awake to validate his value. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/19 03:55 PM |
| 4 | Men would rather be alone forever than be seen as repulsive in the eyes of a woman for a brief momentThis may be true and women maybe can understand how, but this doesn't change anything. If women don't want to be the motivation for men she doesn't have to. Men need to get creative and learn how to meet their own needs without a woman. Why? Because men's goal is to use her body to make themselves feel better and she knows it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/19 08:42 AM |
| 1 | CMV: The concept of female attraction is the hardest pill to swallowI can disagree as long as we don't know for sure what people's intentions are without asking them. Until then it's all speculation. Women only care about the opinions of men they care about. She may know that it attracts male attention but she doesn't have to care at all how her appearance makes men feel. If a man interprets a woman's outfit as provocative and she didn't intend it that way, it's not meant to be interpreted that way. No conversations, no negotiation, no grey areas, she's judge ju… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/19 08:33 AM |
| 1 | CMV: The concept of female attraction is the hardest pill to swallowAnd? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/19 08:58 PM |
| 0 | Feminist mothers attempting to raise their sons to be feminist or gender-critical: how does this affect said boys' upbringing and mental well-being?It's not ideaology, it's reality. Any other "mindset" is either not knowing the truth or purposefully choosing not to accept it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/19 08:52 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The concept of female attraction is the hardest pill to swallowWomen only consider the feelings of men they know personally. Every other man is free to go to hell. Assume everything a woman didn't willingly do for you specifically is because she feels like it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/19 08:45 PM |
| 0 | When it comes to deal-breakers, what are some of your more irrational ones?Fluent with computers. I'm not going to be beckoned to fix something every time the SO can't find the right icon. I get enough of that shit from my parents. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/19 03:29 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The concept of female attraction is the hardest pill to swallowBehavior while one is a teenagers isn't a good example of normal human behavior. On the contrary. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/19 03:26 PM |
| 3 | CMV: The concept of female attraction is the hardest pill to swallowTrue, men's desire for women makes them more likely to put up with arrogant behavior. And if he doesn't, she can walk away and feel nothing. This has nothing to do with entitlement. This is how our biology works. The mating game is rigged against men. Men are supposed to lose. The majority of species on Earth are like this. Males pass on their genes, or not, then have to promptly die so they can feed the alpha males on the rung below them on the food chain. It's as futile to expect women to chan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/19 03:24 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The concept of female attraction is the hardest pill to swallowThey don't even notice the men there. They're there to have a good time with freinds, everything else is optional, including the men there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/19 03:12 PM |
| 4 | CMV: The concept of female attraction is the hardest pill to swallowBut this line of thinking starts with a preconceived notion, that a strict understanding of what women find attractive definitely exists. That leaves one looking for patterns to reinforce that notion. A more productive conversation would be whether what women find attractive can be quantified or if it's absolute chaos. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/19 01:25 AM |
| 3 | CMV: The concept of female attraction is the hardest pill to swallowCan confirm. Work in entertainment, women never approach men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/19 01:07 AM |
| 1 | how do you think dating will look like 30 years from now?I'm not confident men will be any less thirsty. The social pressure towards being in a relationship will have subsided. Men and women will approach each other, but you're right that the other will probably just go along with it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/19 01:03 AM |
| 5 | Men are more attractive than women. CMVWe can't debate, beauty is subjective. It's subjective. You cannot rigidly define subjectivity. It amounts to opinion. There's no point arguing for or against a viewpoint that is neither right nor wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/19 06:37 PM |
| 2 | how do you think dating will look like 30 years from now?I don't think so. It's not like dating will be gone, it just won't be as important. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/19 06:31 PM |
| 3 | how do you think dating will look like 30 years from now?They're going to be fiscally conservative for sure, but less culturally conservative, at least when it comes to how they view society as a whole. They themselves might not be having premarital sex but won't necessarily extend their way of thinking to others. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/19 06:30 PM |
| 2 | how do you think dating will look like 30 years from now?The cultural narrative we all grew up with will be long gone by then. There won't be any stigmas against being single or not having kids. Being a virgin will be no big deal to anyone, they'll probably admit it openly to no reaction. Having had a romantic relationship will no longer be seen as a milestone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/19 04:53 PM |
| 0 | Men are not more naturally individualist than womenYou contradict yourself. Is it.. Individualists still work with people they don't necessarily like because cooperation is beneficial for all of them. Or... Maybe collectivism was valuable for survival in the stone ages, but it's not now. Me, and every item you didn't personally make yourself, that you depend on every day, say differently. The economy has been globalized for some time now. If you're below a certain age you've never lived outside of a collective. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/19 09:01 AM |
| 1 | Men are not more naturally individualist than womenBeing part of a collective means having to be nice to people you don't care about for the sake of your survival. Men have the most problem with this. An individualistic nature would make one value the group less, making them a threat to everyone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/19 07:27 AM |
| 1 | Men are not more naturally individualist than womenBeing that we're a social species individualism is counterproductive to our survival. True individualists either go nuts from isolation or are rightly determined to be mentally ill. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/19 06:59 AM |
| 1 | Q4RP: Does Red Pill Value "Thoughtfulness"?Sex isn't a reward for women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/19 10:52 PM |
| 1 | "Commitment" and "doing what you say you're going to do" aren't the same thing.Men lie. They either say outright or indicate he'd like to pursue a relationship. And by indicate, I mean showing an initial interest that goes beyond anything outside a ONS. And by anything, I mean anything besides your name and where you'd like to meet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/19 10:48 PM |
| 1 | "Commitment" and "doing what you say you're going to do" aren't the same thing.I somewhat agree, but you're talking to a fellow masochist. I'm a total sadist. And, no, I already have you pegged as an under-30 provocateur serial monogamist. Wrong, but flattering. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/19 10:40 PM |
| 1 | "Commitment" and "doing what you say you're going to do" aren't the same thing.Children are for recreation too. Have been since they stopped being free labor, or a retirement plan. Now spouses and kids are luxuries. In economics they're considered the equivalent of a second car or a dishwasher. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/19 05:03 PM |
| 1 | "Commitment" and "doing what you say you're going to do" aren't the same thing.Until a young woman hits the Wall, 'baby rabies' (if ever) then yes, she will rationalise that she and by extension 'women as a class' do not seek, desire, or even NEED commitment from men. This is RP canon. Fantastic. So we can scrap that disingenuous "canon" and get back to reality. Really, the best thing for RP is to internalize their desolation so they can start tweaking their strategy to account for having nothing to offer. Hard pill to swallow, I know, but better than having women know how… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/19 04:59 PM |
| 1 | "Commitment" and "doing what you say you're going to do" aren't the same thing.Who said short term? I feel all romantic relationships are now for recreation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/19 04:47 PM |
| 1 | "Commitment" and "doing what you say you're going to do" aren't the same thing.Not at all! One doesn't have to be dedicated to commitments to fulfill them. It just matters they get done. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/19 08:50 AM |
| 1 | "Commitment" and "doing what you say you're going to do" aren't the same thing.So if you think commitment doesn't fit, which word do you propose? I propose nothing. No words. Women are the gatekeepers of sex, men are the gatekeepers of nothing. Women want relationships for recreation only. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/19 08:49 AM |
| 1 | "Commitment" and "doing what you say you're going to do" aren't the same thing.Right. So women don't need men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/19 06:43 AM |
| 1 | "Commitment" and "doing what you say you're going to do" aren't the same thing.But it's not a need. There's a difference between wants and needs. Needing something to fulfill a want still makes it a want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/19 06:34 AM |
| 1 | "Commitment" and "doing what you say you're going to do" aren't the same thing.Commitment means doing things. If you're not willing to fulfill your obligations you shouldn't expect anyone to fulfill yours. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/19 06:15 AM |
| 1 | "Commitment" and "doing what you say you're going to do" aren't the same thing.The men in this sub specifically. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/19 05:59 AM |
| 1 | "Commitment" and "doing what you say you're going to do" aren't the same thing.What you call "commitment" is actually wanting someone to take their obligations seriously, something universal most can identify with. But call it "commitment" and it changes what it's describing completely. It becomes something only a needy person would expect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/19 05:33 AM |
| 1 | "Commitment" and "doing what you say you're going to do" aren't the same thing.We want the same thing, we are equally needy. (Assuming that "Everyone wants that" is true, of course.) One correction: wanting someone to take their obligations seriously is what everyone wants. But call that want "commitment" and it makes it seem like neediness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/19 05:25 AM |
| 1 | "Commitment" and "doing what you say you're going to do" aren't the same thing.Your opinions of them not needing it like are farts in the wind. If you view not getting what you want the same as not getting what you need. If you can take or leave your wants there's nothing lost by not getting them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/19 05:19 AM |
| -2 | "Commitment" and "doing what you say you're going to do" aren't the same thing.It wasn't. I like to tear ideas to pieces. It brings me great joy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/19 05:15 AM |
| 1 | "Commitment" and "doing what you say you're going to do" aren't the same thing.What's commitment? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/19 05:11 AM |
| 1 | "Commitment" and "doing what you say you're going to do" aren't the same thing.You're being facetious but this is 100% correct. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/19 05:11 AM |
| 1 | "Commitment" and "doing what you say you're going to do" aren't the same thing.At its most frivolous it's for fun. At it's most serious it is a way of getting to know each other before transitioning to a monogamous LTR. Then what one can do the other can as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/19 05:10 AM |
| 1 | "Commitment" and "doing what you say you're going to do" aren't the same thing.No one expects a STR to have the same level of vested personal interest as a LTR. Unless otherwise stated, if both goes in believing the relationship to be monogamous neither can cheat and expect the relationship to continue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/19 04:20 AM |
| 1 | Technology and its affects on the SMPThose are examples. Basically, the social realm is made up of people. People are free to act in ways counter to our interests and there's nothing we can do to stop them. You can only control yourself. You can however, be controlled by society. If you want something someone else has you have to behave in ways that'll make them want to give it to you. That can be the way you talk, dress, etc. Your only choices would be to comply or walk away. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/19 11:39 PM |
| 1 | Technology and its affects on the SMPWe all do. We see less of our friends that meet milestones quicker or slower than our peers. Surely you've lost some time with friends that have gotten married or had kids. Or maybe you talk to a family member less often because they can't use a phone in ways you do. It's not necessarily malicious or even conscious. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/19 07:37 PM |
| 1 | Technology and its affects on the SMPThe only control you have is whether to participate or not. Your peers, the people that make up your social life, control your social life. Mirror them or be cast out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/19 05:28 PM |
| 1 | If your sister, a close female relative or your close female friend was interested in a guy who employed TRP hookup tactics, would you voice your opinion on the situation?Definitely. I would pull up the sidebar on the redpill page so fast... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/19 06:04 AM |
| 1 | Technology and its affects on the SMPIt's gives an idea of what to expect from a wife/husband. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/19 07:48 PM |
| 1 | Men can and should vet their partnersThey're not children. Allocating resources to these guys takes them away from children. It's trying to "help" them by teaching them to get what they want in a changing environment. Real help is teaching them to adjust their wants to the changing environment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/19 07:47 PM |
| 1 | Technology and its affects on the SMP"Toxic femininity" exists in the social realm. We have no control over that so why we're even talking about it is beyond me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/19 04:38 PM |
| 1 | Men can and should vet their partnersIt's like a kid when they don't want to eat what's for dinner. You take their food away, put it in the fridge, then if they say they're hungry later pull out the food they didn't finish. Same sentiment with these guys. Help is available. I understand men have a hard time asking for help. We're not going to overhaul the entire imperfect system just because of these guys. The kind of help that will actually help them is available, and sometimes it's even free. Don't feel too sorry for those suffer… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/19 04:35 PM |
| 1 | Technology and its affects on the SMPThe men looking for a "wife" are out of luck. She's a partner now. That's all she is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/19 04:27 PM |
| 7 | Technology and its affects on the SMPI mean we've got a new better economy now. A "flex" economy, based on finance and capital, where "self employed contractors" make less than the minimum wage and don't even get unemployment benefits, while our overlords make tens of billions and don't know what to even do. This. Relationships are the least of our problems. I don't mean the bottom of the barrel men around here, but real actual average men, who come back to their apartment with their girlfriend who works as well. Not only works, bu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/19 07:43 AM |
| 13 | Technology and its affects on the SMPThe "go to college, get a job, get married, have kids" cultural narrative is going away. I have a feeling "do what you want" isn't going to work for men. They have a harder time adjusting to a lack of a framework. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/19 06:33 AM |
| 2 | Why are double standards so readily accepted when it benefits women?And I'm saying those men should do it anyway despite the protests. Getting protested is a sorry reason not to take responsibility for yourself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/19 05:23 AM |
| 1 | Why are double standards so readily accepted when it benefits women?I'm confident men are capable of solving their own problems. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/19 03:47 AM |
| 1 | Why are double standards so readily accepted when it benefits women?None of these are adequate excuses for men to pull their own weight. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/19 03:20 AM |
| 4 | Why are double standards so readily accepted when it benefits women?The way feminists do? By people like yourself? That doesn't stop them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/19 02:37 AM |
| 1 | CMV: TRP is going to help a lot of men make better relationship and marriage decisions.Yes and no. This next generation won't be learning that there'll always be a woman there to give them the traditional dynamic he always wanted. They won't expect it. So when they get married they won't feel angry at their wives for not taking on that role. TRP will be unnecessary. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/19 11:47 PM |
| 7 | Why are double standards so readily accepted when it benefits women?Feminists expect men to be doing the same thing for themselves and other men the same way they are for women. Why don't those same men that are complaining learn from feminists example? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/19 11:44 PM |
| 1 | Q4RP: Does Red Pill Value "Thoughtfulness"?It's a response to a comment where a guy says being really sweet doesn't necessarily make women want to have sex. My reply highlights how women don't work that way. Sex isn't a reward for us. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/19 05:45 PM |
| 1 | Men can and should vet their partnersI understand. But let's say no one wants to help him. Who's responsibility does that fall to? No one else will benefit from helping him so they won't, because they won't suffer, he will. It's his responsibility. He has to do it himself. There's help available. He has the help he has, not the help he wants. And he'll use it or he'll suffer alone somewhere out of the way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/19 05:42 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Shaming women about their standards for men doesn’t workThe fat girl using tinder knows this guy probably lacks confidence, and therefore she is not actually getting a ‘high value man casually’, she is giving ego stroking and validation in exchange for company. This. That's why fuccbois are a thing, you don't have to validate them and their egos stay their problem. Also, women in general do not look outwardly to random men’s perspectives on what type of man is in their league, nor do they even think twice about the opinion of most men. Very much this… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/19 01:50 PM |
| 1 | Does Misogyny and Feminism come from Narcissism?I see it more with men. They feel attacked when the conversation shifts away from them, very narcissistic and not something women tend to do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/19 01:42 PM |
| 1 | Men can and should vet their partnersThat "something" is the use of someone else's body. If no one wants to help him then yes, he gets to live with his condition. His depression over being rejected is his own burden to bear. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/19 01:32 PM |
| 3 | CMV: MGTOW is the futureThe more men start doing it the more people are going to talk about it. That's going to be the nail in the coffin. Their argument is going to be picked apart and exposed for what it is, the last ditch effort of a formerly dominant demographic to force the focus back onto themselves. Why? A combination of entitlement and laziness. That demographic has made too many enemies for potential supporters to want live under their control. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/19 03:47 AM |
| 1 | Men can and should vet their partnersMen's sex drive is well understood. It's no excuse for men to not have it under control. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/19 03:29 AM |
| 6 | Men can and should vet their partnersThey do, they just consider a dry dick for the entirety of his life is better than anything to do with even one crazy chick. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/19 07:19 PM |
| 1 | If a woman wouldn't fuck a guy after the first 15 seconds it doesn't matter what he does after that.Pictures are good, especially of your face. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/19 06:57 AM |
| 2 | If a woman wouldn't fuck a guy after the first 15 seconds it doesn't matter what he does after that.I think being unable to be in a happy relationship together is a very good reason to end it. Like if know you can't be happy with your spouse isn't it more loving to end that relationship rather than subject them and yourself to that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/19 05:25 AM |
| 2 | If a woman wouldn't fuck a guy after the first 15 seconds it doesn't matter what he does after that.Getting a first date is a reliable indicator she could fuck. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/19 05:22 AM |
| 1 | Of the blue and red COMMUNITIES, which do you feel is more toxic towards opposing views?Blue pill will start trying to pick their argument apart, red pill will ban them and flame their account for a week. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/19 04:27 AM |
| 3 | In 68.4% of divorces in my country it's the woman who files for divorce. The average child support rate is 1/3rd of what a child costs. Why do you think the % of women who file is so similar to the US then?This is meant to be a joke but it actually happened to me. My husband wanted the divorce but wouldn't file anything for years. It only took that long because I refused to do everything for a divorce I hadn't even asked for. Then I did. Hooray. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/19 04:25 AM |
| 5 | What are your thoughts on the idea that compliance with women gradually lowers their sexual attraction?It's only a problem when men neglect their own needs in order to better meet her's. He's no good to anyone if he's not healthy. A man that does this consistently will burn out eventually and come to resent whoever he's sacrificing himself to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/19 04:17 AM |
| 1 | If a woman wouldn't fuck a guy after the first 15 seconds it doesn't matter what he does after that.Pretty much. It's not a conspiracy, the game really is rigged against men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/19 11:12 PM |
| 1 | If a woman wouldn't fuck a guy after the first 15 seconds it doesn't matter what he does after that.It's not as if TRP has written entire volumes about the fickle nature of female attraction, especially if a man starts being emotional. This is where I disagree. A woman that already has a man as a maybe won't change her mind if she sees him crying. I'm not saying there's nothing he can do to make himself a no but it's core value stuff. I'm talking religious or political affiliation type stuff, not crying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/19 04:22 PM |
| 2 | Exactly who are you waiting for to invent "toxic femininity?"They can't. Their problem is that women don't rely on them anymore, making it hard for them to appeal to them, so their goal is to return women to the home to make it easy again. In one fell swoop they out themselves as lazy, entitled,and dismissive concerning just about everyone. None of those things are worth defending. And here's the kicker, the point is to prevent an uprising they'll eagerly join. In other words they're threatening a coup against the government and the "advice" being given a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/19 08:42 AM |
| 2 | If a woman wouldn't fuck a guy after the first 15 seconds it doesn't matter what he does after that.Where I disagree is that nothing you can do will fuck it up if she decides you are in the maybe/yes category. This is just objectively untrue, women lose affection for LTRs, husbands and even fuckbuddies/Chads all the time. That's just another difference between men and women at play. For example, I left my husband. I never once stopped loving him. I love him right now and wish him well. It'd be hard not to after everything we'd gone through. I left my husband because we ended up disagreeing abo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/19 07:27 AM |
| 1 | If a woman wouldn't fuck a guy after the first 15 seconds it doesn't matter what he does after that.You're telling me reasons for what women feel that literally do not make sense. They're impossible. First, you have to understand what it's like to not be that interested in sex, like you have every opportunity and don't mind walking away either way. Men and women both have people of the opposite sex they could fuck. I'm not sure how men see women like this, but women can ultimately take or leave them. If the stars align they might hook up. If they don't she won't think much of it. My point is t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/19 06:58 AM |
| 2 | If a woman wouldn't fuck a guy after the first 15 seconds it doesn't matter what he does after that.It's not necessarily attractive and ugly as in what is conventionally considered attractive and ugly. A man one woman is attracted to can be unfuckable to another. It all comes down to her unique immune system and what his face indicates about his. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/19 06:13 AM |
| 2 | If a woman wouldn't fuck a guy after the first 15 seconds it doesn't matter what he does after that.Not sleep with him, find him attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/19 05:55 AM |
| 1 | If a woman wouldn't fuck a guy after the first 15 seconds it doesn't matter what he does after that.I don't know why but women seem deeply hard wired to not believe this. Because men don't want to listen to us when we say we'd already made our choice before he even opened his mouth. They won't listen because that means men haven't achieved anything through the red pill, they're still at women's mercy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/19 05:55 AM |
| 2 | If a woman wouldn't fuck a guy after the first 15 seconds it doesn't matter what he does after that.Women's attraction is based on fluctuating asymmetry, men's is based on calculating body fat percentages. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/19 05:45 AM |
| 3 | If a woman wouldn't fuck a guy after the first 15 seconds it doesn't matter what he does after that.Your tears will take the stain out. Your welcome. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/19 05:41 AM |
| 2 | If a woman wouldn't fuck a guy after the first 15 seconds it doesn't matter what he does after that.Who cares? Wash your stupid sweater. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/19 05:01 AM |
| 1 | If a woman wouldn't fuck a guy after the first 15 seconds it doesn't matter what he does after that.I guarantee that she'll have already made up her mind shortly after seeing you the first time. There are men we're fucking, men we could fuck, and men we'd never fuck. Could fuck is usually only "could" because of circumstances, like either being in a relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/19 05:00 AM |
| 3 | Can women be feminine while with a masculine man and not be dependent on him?If you're already capable, if you can figure things out for yourself, do that. Deferring to someone else when you don't actually need to is acting submissive, not being submissive. That's going to take a toll eventually. Further, putting someone else's preferences above you're own isn't necessarily submission either. It's codependency at best and enabling at worst. You would have to trust that your SO would have both of your best interests at heart. I don't think anyone would expect that trust i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/19 05:50 PM |
| 6 | Redpill Women is toxicI have to disagree, we're assuming parents are always going to be good to their children. That's not always the case. Check out r/raisedbynarcissists and see for yourself. As a victim of abuse, a parent going to work can be the only relief children get from toxic parents. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/19 05:03 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: When you picture a man who breaks up with a girl over her having a high partner count, what kind of man do you envision?I envision a guy that's had a girlfriend with a low Ncount and enjoyed the relationship. Or he's never had a girlfriend with a low Ncount and hasn't enjoyed his experience. Either way, he imagines that women with a low Ncount have qualities she wouldn't have if she had a high Ncount. It usually boils down to him being aware of her being aware that she has other options. Men need concrete demonstrable reasons to explain things. If he isn't the best, and if she doesn't need him for anything, there… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/19 04:54 AM |
| 0 | Ladies, feminists, SJWs, white knights, here's why men often brag about their notches. Understand this...We get it. We're not going to pretend to jump for joy. Women don't care about that. If you're looking to impress someone with your ncount don't look to women, she's not going to care. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/19 04:21 AM |
| 3 | Why do men and women view n count extremely differently?Female Perspective on men: a man who has or is sleeping with lots of women has clear evidence that he is exceptionally desirable aka social validate, therefore in practice women rarely fault men for having high n counts Not true. A man sleeping with a lot of women, especially if he has kids already, won't necessarily be interested in caring for their kids. And if he is, he has less to go around. With a man like that there's always a chance he'll end up with a kid he didn't know about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/19 05:43 PM |
| 1 | It's us men who are to blame for the entitlement of women...But men believe that happiness is not having to "adult". If she has a job a man will automatically label her as unhappy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/19 06:34 AM |
| 1 | It's us men who are to blame for the entitlement of women...I mean that they feel just fine. They're not bothered. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/19 04:59 AM |
| 1 | The bluepill bubble: am i right or wrong?The red pill is made up of men who are looking at this whole thing only from their own perspective. They believe women are acting against men's best interests so see no problem with making their ideology work for men as well as against women. The blue pill gives advice that also takes women's perspectives into account. They understand that women wouldn't want to be subjected to what red pill men have in store. With blue pill tactics men have about the same chances while women are thought of as r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/19 04:15 AM |
| 3 | It's us men who are to blame for the entitlement of women...Power rarely lasts forever. The powerful have the best examples in history, the Romanovs, Louis and Marie Antoinette, for what happens when the people hate their powerful leaders. They get killed, publicly and with great celebration. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/19 05:31 PM |
| 5 | It's us men who are to blame for the entitlement of women...One's own perspective is the only perspective that needs to matter to anyone. If she wants to be alone that should be fine. She shouldn't be seen as denying someone else happiness just for wanting to live life on her own terms. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/19 05:26 PM |
| 2 | It's us men who are to blame for the entitlement of women...Exactly, zero sum. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/19 05:22 PM |
| 3 | It's us men who are to blame for the entitlement of women...If it's impossible why are we talking about it. Thanks for wasting so much of my time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/19 05:21 PM |
| 3 | It's us men who are to blame for the entitlement of women...And everyone hates these guys. They have zero support. You've just proved my point. What happens to these guys when their wars are over? What happened to the KKK? What happened to the nazis? They were both a formidable force at one point, where are they now? That's right, laughable. And if those men win? Persona non grata to the rest of the world. Like North Korea, but without any friends backing them up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/19 05:20 PM |
| 4 | It's us men who are to blame for the entitlement of women...Again, I say bring it on. First, because men (the ones currently bitching) will go crawling back to work as soon as they lose service on their phones. Secondly, men don't really want to see everything turn out fine. Then they've just proven to everyone else they're prescense isn't that important. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/19 05:11 PM |
| 3 | It's us men who are to blame for the entitlement of women...What's there to negotiate? The struggle we're talking about is zero sum. Either women have to be forced to be with sub par men or those men will end up permanently alone. There's only one solution, war. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/19 05:07 PM |
| 1 | It's us men who are to blame for the entitlement of women...If looking at the way things are now, where that kind of thing does happen, I can't disagree. But it's not like it's going to be tolerated. Homelessness will become illegal, most likely. It's not like people just love the homeless, what makes you think they won't strike back with extreme fury? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/19 05:05 PM |
| 2 | It's us men who are to blame for the entitlement of women...So the solution is to create the ideal environment for men or be forced to do it by men. I doubt women would go down that easily, if at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/19 05:01 PM |
| 3 | It's us men who are to blame for the entitlement of women...So? Do men have to do whatever women tell them to do? Can't they just be self-directed? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/19 04:55 PM |
| 4 | It's us men who are to blame for the entitlement of women...I understand, I just disagree because I think it's stupid. It's a threat disguised as caring advice. "That's a nice society you have there, be a shame for anything to happen..." I say bring it on. I'd love for those kinds of men to expose themselves for what they are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/19 04:53 PM |
| 2 | Q4W - If you were one of 100 women on a stranded island with one man who was a very unattractive beta, how would you act in that SMP?The 100 women would be working on food and shelter. The one man would be in the way trying to get with each one, doing nothing to contribute. If he tries to make himself the leader he's being forced to the other side of the island away from the women. If he causes any discontent at all he's going to the other side. While there, he'll probably be scheming on how to kidnap a woman for himself. If he succeeds, someone will eventually notice, find them, and kill him. If he fails he gets imprisoned. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/19 04:47 PM |
| 3 | It's us men who are to blame for the entitlement of women...Men that drop out of the workforce will be homeless. They'll be too busy worrying about finding food and shelter to destroy anything. And with all of the homeless people we have now? Have you seen the videos of the tent cities in California? Where's this destruction you speak of? Oh, maybe it's because they can still get a date, that's much less infuriating than not being able to support themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/19 04:39 PM |
| 5 | It's us men who are to blame for the entitlement of women...That's what foreign workers and automation is for. Men are going to be the ones hit the hardest. Without work they'll be homeless, or relying on funding for dwindling social programs they themselves won't be paying into. They'll be counting on their own necessity to make others listen, but they're not a necessity, in the workplace or the SMP, so no one will listen. So we're going to have a lot of homeless white men killing themselves on the streets. I mean, even more than now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/19 04:29 PM |
| 7 | It's us men who are to blame for the entitlement of women...The same percentage of women currently employed or are capable of getting a job. They'll be plenty of demand for workers if men all decide to leave the workforce. It'd be the best thing to happen to women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/19 03:25 PM |
| 8 | Q4RP: Does Red Pill Value "Thoughtfulness"?I think women are grateful for these things. But they don't get hot and bothered over these things. Women don't really work that way. You'd have to be gone for a while, like out town or something to get that kind of "Miss you" sex. Because we know that whatever you're doing it's to get sex. That is so fucking annoying, you know? It's like having one of those old-school infomercial type guys following you around trying to sell something, but with men it's always their dick. Most women would rathe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/19 03:16 PM |
| 3 | It's us men who are to blame for the entitlement of women...I doubt biological women will care. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/19 03:04 PM |
| 2 | It's us men who are to blame for the entitlement of women...Men are responsible for encouraging deviancy in women. If we discouraged it, it would go away. I disagree. Women don't have a problem with being single. Women also don't get their cues from men on how to behave like men do with women. Men can lecture, it's noise to someone that doesn't need to listen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/19 03:02 PM |
| 8 | It's us men who are to blame for the entitlement of women...If men enforced a boundary with authority, there's nothing women can do about it. She can walk away. She can leave, get a few cats, and be just fine never dealing with men again. That's her one line of defense men can't overcome. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/19 02:57 PM |
| 1 | Men refuse to justify the views they know no one would want any part of.He wouldn't be of much service if he wasn't capable. I guess men need women to tell them what to do. How awful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/19 04:52 PM |
| 1 | Men refuse to justify the views they know no one would want any part of.Yeah, they're getting together, then women tend to break it off. Because men want the traditional dynamic but can't have it, he tries to get away with acting the way he would in that scenario, then blames the woman for recognizing it and not wanting it. It's gaslighting. His best case scenario is if they end up in a situation where she can't leave him, then he's free to treat her how he wants. That's very rare these days, the main reason why the red pill exists. Society has too many alternatives… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/19 04:50 PM |
| 1 | Men refuse to justify the views they know no one would want any part of.It's the exact opposite. One is explaining their behavior while the other isn't. It's funny, he would rather her tell him what he already suspects, that she always hated him and that he's ugly, etc. But women can't do the same. Women can't assume anything about men, we're only supposed to assume the collective man is wonderful, on the inside. And to only consider that wonderful man inside, never the negative things he does or says. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/19 04:40 PM |
| 2 | Do women use sex to manipulate their man?The options then are to separate yourself from her and all women so you never get turned on. Or women wear large refrigerator boxes with eye holes at all times. But really, you're urges are your own problem. You do what you have to do to reconcile not getting what you want when you want it. Grow up buddy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/19 04:35 PM |
| 1 | Men refuse to justify the views they know no one would want any part of.Yeah it's difficult, but it works. If you can prove in a court of law that you're right the laws actually change. But you have to prove yourself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/19 04:30 PM |
| 0 | Men refuse to justify the views they know no one would want any part of.Gurst of all, men make these kinds of arguments in court all the time. They often aren't accepted. Sometimes they are. The court can be swayed by anyone, they just have to be right. And it's really easy to do, it just takes homework, money, time and patience. Maybe men should admit they want what they want because they want it and go from there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/19 07:03 AM |
| 1 | Men refuse to justify the views they know no one would want any part of.None. This is based on conversations with very drunk men that have very little filter. Turns out a good 60% parrot a lot of the bullshit men on here like to say. Nothing backs them into a corner than having to admit something that makes them an asshole. No one wants anything to do with assholes, so they won't admit anything. They do weird things to keep from stating that kind of stuff out loud. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/19 06:59 AM |
| -1 | Men refuse to justify the views they know no one would want any part of.Says who? Why? Everyone. No one wants to be around someone willing to make them work while someone else does nothing for no real reason. Because looking after number one is ok. Everyone is. "I don't want to" is as true of an intention as any. But why should anyone else do anything for you? If they leave you're still doing it. Do a few things you don't want or do everything yourself, not a hard decision. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/19 06:54 AM |
| 0 | Men refuse to justify the views they know no one would want any part of.The lack of protests brought about by men to make the changes they often complain about. They won't do so in a court of law, I assume because the changes they want have no real urgency to meet a need, only their wants. Wants don't hold up in court. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/19 06:44 AM |
| 2 | Men refuse to justify the views they know no one would want any part of.Further, I think it's why women are leaving men in droves. Eventually women realize their men are manipulating them and leave. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/19 06:40 AM |
| 4 | Women's reluctance to marry down: how hard will it reduce marriages?I don't see a problem for women, who oftentimes choose to be single in her later years even when she doesn't have to. It's a problem for men. Their problem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/19 06:38 AM |
| 2 | PurplePillDebate users and relationships to other subreddits based on user activityMen are trying to resist an invading hoard. With that kind of mentality it's impossible to see any opposition as something that has to be disproved, dismissed or shouted down. That's not debate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/19 05:31 AM |
| 2 | Do women use sex to manipulate their man?If she's using sex to manipulate you into something, what is it? Because if it's to get you to stay with her that's not going to work. What you were saying about her changing in front of you, was it to tease you? If that wasn't her intention then she was just changing, she wasn't thinking about you at all. I think that's the crux of the issue. Women don't think about men, they just live their lives. Some of those things men happen to find arousing. She still has to do them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/19 05:02 AM |
| 2 | Messages about dangerous men you have received in your life?I hear stories all the time that this or that person's daughter/niece/sister almost got pulled into a van by a bunch of guys looking to sell her in Mexico (we're close by). They tend to go for younger girls but sometimes it's whichever woman they find alone on the street. They say to go limp, shit yourself, etc. But since it's usually four or five guys you just have to get lucky and hope someone sees you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/19 03:57 AM |
| 2 | Women's reluctance to marry down: how hard will it reduce marriages?Let's consider that some of the women choosing not to date down aren't making enough money to support a family on their own. If she doesn't want a family then financially it's not a problem. If they want children it might not be possible for her to go on leave without losing the family's only source of income. And as soon as she's capable she'll have to hand her baby over to be raised by a babysitter. Not that those things won't be a problem with two incomes, but they won't be debilitating. A wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/19 03:47 AM |
| 1 | Awalt is a hilarious concept when you consider your mom.My mom got left but didn't get remarried, as did the majority of her friends. One mom of a friend's was an actual gold digger. She would purposely hide her kids from men (lock them outside) while she slept with random men. She's been married more than 5 times. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/19 04:00 AM |
| 3 | Q4All: Why do childless men who complain about low fertility rates don't see the irony?First of all, they see gender roles as duties. They have to get done or society falls apart. Their traditional role has always been going to work, which they probably do. They see falling fertility rates as everyone's problem. Because women aren't doing their duties, and it's (currently) impossible to force them, they're trying to reconcile not being able to force someone to help others. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/19 02:25 AM |
| 1 | I've reconsidered, the wall is real, I was relying on outliers before.You'd have to make an effort to be impartial, all you're doing right now is arguing from a point of ego. Listen, I don't argue points that i'm not sure are as factually correct as possible at any given time. I'm not loyal, I will correct anyone regardless of what "side" they're on. Your point is factually incorrect. Saying that does absolutely nothing for my ego. Because I fail to understand why this is here. This goes back to what you were saying about men and projecting. All of the things they… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/19 01:56 AM |
| 1 | I've reconsidered, the wall is real, I was relying on outliers before.Women need men to help raise their kids and men need women for ready access to sex. If this is for the sake of the children, does it have to be the biological father? Because if she has a father or brother her child can still have a positive male figure in their lives. Adopted children do alright. If it's about support that's just not true. Women are capable of making the money needed to support a family by themselves. Men just want access to ready access to sex, which he had less of compared to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/19 12:35 AM |
| 1 | Men's idea of "attention".Men don't think a woman would be nice to him if she didn't consider him a winner. And if she's pulling attention away from him it's because someone/something else has gotten her attention. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/19 12:20 AM |
| 1 | Sex before 18 is just as damaging as drinking before 21 and should be dealt with in a similar manner. Chastity is better and America needs more virgin women.If the goal is to avoid harm during development then it's whenever a person is fully developed. The age we're comfortable with is going to depend on who you ask. I feel the age of full development is too long to wait. The age of sexual maturity both varies from person to person and conflicts with when we allow a person to legally support themselves. Personally, I think considering a newborn baby and someone the day before they turn 18 legally the same a bit odd, but that's a different conversati… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/19 08:02 AM |
| 1 | I've reconsidered, the wall is real, I was relying on outliers before.Adulthood: everything past your parents making a big deal out of your birthday. If you're packaging all the things that women will handwave that serve their prerogative so they can pretend their deal isn't sweet, then yes. Attention from the opposite sex is always going to be more valuable to men. From your perspective having less of it would be terrible. But we know women are less likely to want to remarry than men even when they can. One can make the claim that it's because she can't and that … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/19 07:52 AM |
| 1 | Sex before 18 is just as damaging as drinking before 21 and should be dealt with in a similar manner. Chastity is better and America needs more virgin women.We can't have this conversation without dismissing the fact that the 18 year threshold we set for adulthood is arbitrary. We don't actually stop developing until about our mid twenties. If we really do want to keep the next generation pure no corrupting or addictive influences should be exposed before then. No sex. No sugar. No lip balm. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/19 03:24 AM |
| 1 | I've reconsidered, the wall is real, I was relying on outliers before.Back to my original question, do you consider yourself inconvenienced by adulthood? Does being an adult bother you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/19 03:14 AM |
| 1 | I've reconsidered, the wall is real, I was relying on outliers before.I'm not necessarily disagreeing. If the wall doesn't bother you at all is it even worth worrying about? For example, we are now living past the "childhood wall". We're no longer cute enough for anyone to want to take care of us. Our development is no longer considered a priority by anyone. Knowing that, has you considered yourself inconvenienced by it? If not, would you tell children they should be worried about it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/19 02:41 AM |
| 1 | Is this truly a neutral sub?There are very few arguments made in good faith. Mainly "here, disprove this!" and "so how do you like destroying lives?" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/19 07:31 AM |
| 3 | Q4Women: Would you date someone like your father?Bipolar? No. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/19 07:18 AM |
| 1 | Men's idea of "attention".Other women define men by their groups. I'm sure you don't do it. How could you tell the difference between a woman valuing his group and a woman valuing what his belonging to that group might indicate about him? Plenty of wowen enjoy the process of the man courting them, overcoming the obstacles she places in his way, even if its only token resistance. I'm asking about the women who don't enjoy it. The ones that want no part of it. The ones that don't know they're competing. Plenty of women don… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/19 07:17 AM |
| 1 | I've reconsidered, the wall is real, I was relying on outliers before.I mean in general. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/19 05:12 AM |
| 1 | I've reconsidered, the wall is real, I was relying on outliers before.Do you think those women are suffering? Like they notice the lack of attention and feel upset about it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/19 04:54 AM |
| 2 | "Doing nothing does harm" - What do you think of the message in this youtube video?This falls in the unwritten social rules category, what I refer to as "schoolyard politics". When something is considered outrageous it gets a reaction. When the reactions stop it's crossed a threshold and become normal. Normal means it's ok to do it. Women don't want it to become normal to spew hatred towards powerful women. Eventually it'll be seen as normal to hate powerful women. That's a big problem because while women have made great progress they're not at a point where they can't be knoc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/19 03:58 AM |
| 1 | Men's idea of "attention".The major problem I see with women's privileged position is the preference for "naturals." Which is really just a way of filtering out unfit men by way of making attractiveness as hard as possible to learn or mimic. That's understandable. Women have a problem with men attempting to slip the unfavorable aspects of breeding with him under her radar. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/19 03:26 AM |
| 1 | Men's idea of "attention".For yet others they become team something else and they don't really think about women that way since women are never part of any group themselves. The latter was common in times past. This is the closest women can get to how men want to see them. But it was women, even if they were a group, weren't a threat to men in any way. That changed the moment women gained the capability to be a threat even if she didn't indicate she was. That makes it seem like men can only feel safe around women when th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/19 03:15 AM |
| 1 | Men's idea of "attention".Its easier to believe a man does cannot feel this way. That's he's self interested and only wants her for her body or to give him babies, because those are things she can offer in return. This makes it seem like women know men aren't acting as individuals, they don't. Women do not understand that that's how men think. In some ways I think once a women understands this thing about blue pill men she may have trouble respecting them. I think most women would recoil at the idea of having to act in a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/19 04:31 PM |
| 1 | Men's idea of "attention".This makes perfect sense. Likewise, women perceive men as acting in their individual best interests not knowing its possible he might be doing something harmful to himself or others for the sake of his group. Security for a woman is the freedom to make her interests a priority. She can't do that if she's put in the position of having to help someone that's refusing to do it themselves, no matter the reason why. That's why she can easily break up with a man, she only thinks of him as a competent … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/19 09:58 AM |
| 2 | Men's idea of "attention".It's actually pretty absurd, and women often want to indulge their artificially privileged position and want men to be okay with it. I'd argue that women's over-privileged position wouldn't exist if men didn't value them so much. Hypergamy is men's fault. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/19 09:34 AM |
| 1 | Men's idea of "attention".But for women "stay single" is a perfectly acceptable choice with zero downsides. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/19 09:28 AM |
| 1 | Men's idea of "attention".You would probably argue this is the ego defense kicking in. You're kind of right, but not for the reason's you think. Its more about group identity in a very male way. Group identity? I'd love to hear more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/19 07:22 AM |
| 2 | Men's idea of "attention".Neither are. The reality is that we can't know everyone, so who we end up with might not be the best for us. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/19 07:16 AM |
| 0 | Men's idea of "attention".Men that feel disrespected when their women signal that their cognizant of the options they both know she has. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/19 07:08 AM |
| 2 | Men's idea of "attention".Not when those needs are harmful to either party. That's not supporting, that's enabling. There's no case for letting someone live in a fantasy for their own comfort. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/19 06:22 AM |
| 3 | What are the characteristics of rock stars that make them attractive to women?Familiarity. She knows any rockstar better than any regular man. We all do. We can all read comprehensive bios of just about any famous person. We can see pictures of them throughout their lives. We tend to know more about them than the people we interact with in real life. It doesn't matter if he's particularly more attractive than the average man, he'll feel like the better safer option because it'll feel like she already knows him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/19 06:19 AM |
| 3 | Men's idea of "attention".The difference is what's being asked of either party isn't proportionate. The man is asking the woman to support his fantasy. The woman is asking the man to accept reality. There's no way the former is healthy for either of them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/19 06:10 AM |
| 2 | Q4women: How would you feel if your long term partner voiced a need to feel more sexually desired by you?But if he thinks he's going to find a woman unaware of every man better than him he's not going to find her. He'll probably wouldn't want a woman living under a rock anyway. Or one with brain damage. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/19 04:33 AM |
| 2 | Q4women: How would you feel if your long term partner voiced a need to feel more sexually desired by you?He wants to see his wife act the way she would if he were a prize she'd won. That's probably how he feels about her and doesn't feel it's reciprocated. The reality is that women can't forget all of the men that are more handsome, more talented, etc. She knows he's not the best she can do. Maybe he even knows it deep down, but can't bear the fear of losing her that comes with that realization. So now there's two options. He can accept the reality and learn to reconcile his fear. Or she can put on… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/19 03:37 AM |
| 2 | How would you know the difference between a society that prioritizes children and one that prioritizes women?You're too fundamentally ignorant to say I'm wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/19 05:34 PM |
| 7 | “Fuckboy” is an artificial archetype made up by xSFX women in an attempt to offload their shame.Women don't give a fuck about social dynamics in men's prisons, they don't apply to them and never will. A fuccboi is the female version of a cum dumpster. Someone you're nice to only when you're together and forget completely as soon as they're out of sight. They're someone not worth knowing past how useful they are to you in reaching a goal. Because women know men hate having their delusions of grandeur questioned, this man is defined by a disrespectful term meant to both describe his only use… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/19 05:33 PM |
| 0 | ''Toxic masculinity'' is actually the reason there are more male CEO's than womenBusiness and social dynamics have nothing to do with one another. Don't bring up dating when we're talking about jobs. Not at all the same thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/19 04:41 PM |
| 1 | How would you know the difference between a society that prioritizes children and one that prioritizes women?Staying together for the kids is just as destructive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/19 04:32 PM |
| 2 | Should this guy get back his 4 million dollars for the wife paternity frauding him?"Yay, children are suffering!" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/19 04:30 PM |
| 3 | Q4W: Why are younger guys a turn off?I don't want to lead, and I don't want to be led. I want (and have, luckily) someone to figure shit out with together. This. That's why I always stay in my age bracket when dating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/19 04:29 PM |
| 2 | How would you know the difference between a society that prioritizes children and one that prioritizes women?Accidents happen, which is why abortion is so important. We're eliminating suffering before it happens. Surely we're better off now with fewer unwanted children. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/19 04:26 PM |
| -1 | Should this guy get back his 4 million dollars for the wife paternity frauding him?What would've been the alternative? She tells him early, her two boys likely grow up in poverty. What becomes of them? Who cares? We'll just forget that we're completely dismissing those children as collateral damage. No, let's talk more about the joy we're getting from intentionally hurting children to better get back at something someone else did. We're punishing that woman by forcing her to watch her children suffer. What she did was so wrong as to warrant that. We're calling that justice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/19 09:10 AM |
| 1 | How would you know the difference between a society that prioritizes children and one that prioritizes women?You're right. But in Asian culture small children are allowed to run wild until a certain age, then they have to behave a certain way with harsh punishment for not conforming completely. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/19 07:35 AM |
| 1 | How would you know the difference between a society that prioritizes children and one that prioritizes women?We must separate romantic relationships from familial relationships. It's the only way shared parenting after separation can work. We can't do that without forcing divorced couples to interact with one another. That's not always for the good of the children that'll be getting their relationship queues primarily from their parents. Children can't accept certain things when it comes to their parents. They'll blame themselves for making their parents miserable. They'll come to hate their own existe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/19 07:27 AM |
| 3 | How would you know the difference between a society that prioritizes children and one that prioritizes women?It was women raising both awareness and the money themselves to support the research. Then proving to the highest court in the land it was a constitutional right. Men couldn't have stopped them without negating the entire constitution. They didn't give women anything, women just happened to be right. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/19 06:58 AM |
| 1 | How would you know the difference between a society that prioritizes children and one that prioritizes women?Cultures that nurtured their children in nuclear family units may have had a better quality of life, historically. But that's because they would've grown up in westernized countries. I've heard the argument that the nuclear family model is the reason for that success but that's more correlation than causation. I've heard of similar dynamics where children have a paternal figure, just not necessarily the biological father. There are many children of adopted parents that prove biology isn't a big … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/19 06:50 AM |
| 3 | How would you know the difference between a society that prioritizes children and one that prioritizes women?I'd argue that being born to a mother that doesn't want you is worse than death. Do you think every single woman is just going to bond with their babies and decide to be great moms? Go to r/raisedbynarcissists if you want an idea of what all can happen to a child behind closed doors. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/19 06:34 AM |
| 1 | How would you know the difference between a society that prioritizes children and one that prioritizes women?Some people believe that the nuclear family model is the only one that produces healthy children. That makes anything that separates either parents from full access to their children for any reason is de facto harming them. A society that allows parents to split up will automatically be considered as prioritizing women by default. There's a bit of cognitive dissonance there, though. Divorce hurts children, but sending fathers to prison or to war doesn't? The terms of a divorce are far favorable.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/19 06:17 AM |
| 1 | How would you know the difference between a society that prioritizes children and one that prioritizes women?Do you think children in those tribal kinds of family units are worse off than children in a nuclear family unit? Why/why not? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/19 06:05 AM |
| 5 | Q4W: Why are younger guys a turn off?I don't think so much "protected" but secure. She'd want a man she could trust to handle situations in a mature way. Not necessarily because she can't do it herself, but it's one less thing she has to worry about so to better focus on other things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/19 04:14 AM |
| 3 | Q4W: Why are younger guys a turn off?We were about the same age give or take a few months. We were both young, but by then I'd had a job, friends, and had to street smart my way through a lot. My husband had a more privileged life growing up. So when push came to shove I could deal with it while he freaked out. It wouldn't have been so bad if he had just let me handle it but he didn't want to look incompetent so he'd try to do things himself without listening and usually screw something up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/19 04:02 AM |
| 14 | Q4W: Why are younger guys a turn off?Men like the idea of being deferred to. Women think it's annoying. It's because of the nature of men. Whatever age they are they think they think they know everything and get very upset when proven wrong. That can get old fast when you're certain he doesn't know what he's talking about, which his young inexperienced ass definitely does not. For a woman it's like having a three year old except they're not growing out of that phase. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/19 03:49 AM |
| 1 | How would you know the difference between a society that prioritizes children and one that prioritizes women?But we send men to war. Are you saying that not seeing your dad for months at a time, knowing the entire time he might die in a war, is better for a child than getting to see them on weekends and holidays? If you're going to make that claim you also have to be against soldiers having families. See how that works? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/19 03:39 AM |
| 3 | Trying to find a girlfriendThe fact that a woman is a virgin isn't going to make you look better in bed if you're no good. She'll just remember her first time as being no good. It could possibly turn her off sex for a while, at least with you. Women had access to the same internet you did growing up, they know sex is supposed to feel good. If you want your first time to seem amazing to the first girl you sleep with you have to actually be amazing. It happens, but it's rare. No one expects anything from virgins anyway so i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/19 10:27 PM |
| 3 | [Critique my reasoning] Women would rather be with a man who sends her on an emotional rollercoaster than be with someone boring and predictable (but reliable). But they'll never admit it.People seek out in relationships what feels familiar (as in "family") to them. If a woman grew up in an emotionally taxing household, that's the kind of man she's going to both attract and be attracted to. Yes, if presented with a man that was better on paper she'd probably not be into him. It would take behavioral therapy to reprogram that attraction. And the majority don't even know they have a problem. Women that grow up in emotionally secure households where both parents were loving and supp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/19 05:17 PM |
| 1 | What will reasonably happen in 20-30 years if interpersonal relationships of all sorts continue to erode at the same rate as they do right now?Can confirm, half-latina here. I've never let a man tell me what to do. Women who aren't white, that have to go out and earn a living doing the hardest jobs women can have, don't take shit from anyone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/19 03:44 PM |
| 3 | What does RP think about psychological therapy?I don't think these guys are interested in being told something they want isn't healthy. They want to be told how to change themselves to better get what they want, hence the red pill. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/19 08:58 PM |
| 1 | r/unpopularopinion post: Being “creepy” is an inevitable part of young men learning to speak to women they’re interested in....What men don't understand is that women see them. It's easy to tell when they're trying to get her attention. Being stared down by a stranger would be unsettling to just about anyone. When men do it it's showing he's too hypnotized to realize his behavior unsettling. That's what makes him creepy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/19 04:59 AM |
| 1 | Gender roles are obsolete.Agreed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/19 09:14 PM |
| 1 | Gender roles are obsolete.Women see a lack of social skills as freedom, men view it as a threat to their sense of self-worth Whoops! I meant "lack of gender roles". I will fix that right now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/19 06:26 PM |
| 3 | Men do a lot of talking about what they hate about women, but what they really hate is accountability.Because whatever he's paying, it doesn't surpass the costs of actually caring for the kids. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/19 06:04 PM |
| 1 | Men do a lot of talking about what they hate about women, but what they really hate is accountability.Yeah, but that's a gray area. Let's say I need to wear heels to keep my job. I buy heels. Oh no, heels aren't covered. I don't have the money after rent and bills for heels. I have to look for another job before I get fired. I don't have an outfit for an interview. I can't buy one. I lose my job, my kids lose their homes and whatever progress we made while living there. In other words, men shouldn't have a say in how their money is spent because they're not going to be aware or cognizant of the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/19 05:59 PM |
| 1 | Men do a lot of talking about what they hate about women, but what they really hate is accountability.the interest of the child did surpass the fathers rights, but that should be an extreme, rare and temporary situation. The interests of the child always surpasses the rights of the father. It's why child support is even a thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/19 05:42 PM |
| 6 | Men do a lot of talking about what they hate about women, but what they really hate is accountability.But none of those things justify why he shouldn't have to then support that child. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/19 05:40 PM |
| 5 | Men do a lot of talking about what they hate about women, but what they really hate is accountability.Don't worry about her, she has birth control. Men are still living in the reproductive dark ages alone. He has to play by different rules. He doesn't get to have casual sex, she does. That changes when you get your own birth control. Hopefully it takes less than 20 years, that's how long women had to wait. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/19 05:37 PM |
| 3 | Men do a lot of talking about what they hate about women, but what they really hate is accountability.TIL men also think children are more deserving of the minimum amount to live on than a grown-ass man. Theres my next post right there, "Justify why men need more money and attention than children." Spoiler alert, dodging the question and some bullshit about respect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/19 05:32 PM |
| 2 | Men do a lot of talking about what they hate about women, but what they really hate is accountability.Plus you pay child support for a child you're not allowed to visit and in whose life you can't be involved. I often wonder if the same men on this sub are really as heartless as they'd like to be. Would they tell their children to their faces that they're giving up all claim to them because they can't have more control over how they're raised? I think they should have to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/19 05:28 PM |
| 2 | Men do a lot of talking about what they hate about women, but what they really hate is accountability.Calculating what each parent pays based based on their income is stupid? TIL men think fairness is stupid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/19 05:21 PM |
| 8 | Men do a lot of talking about what they hate about women, but what they really hate is accountability.His choice is made when he decides to have sex. Men can't have casual sex, is it really that difficult to understand? Stop trying to have your cake and eat it too. Acknowledge your fate, dog. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/19 05:19 PM |
| 3 | Men do a lot of talking about what they hate about women, but what they really hate is accountability.They have control over whether they have sex or not. That's the only choice they have. Until male birth control men can't have safe sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/19 05:14 PM |
| 7 | Men do a lot of talking about what they hate about women, but what they really hate is accountability.You cannot be directly responsible for something you have no control over, Ok, men don't have to pay child support but they all have to submit to a reversable vasectomy first. That's fair. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/19 11:01 AM |
| 5 | Men do a lot of talking about what they hate about women, but what they really hate is accountability.Add in some laws on DNA tests like that of France to prevent us from making ourselves an idea of our real responsibilities and you've got a population that gets blamed for everything, has to pay for everything, but has little in the way of preventing such problems to occur again. Hence their legitimate frustration. Their frustration is understandable, it doesn't excuse their behavior. The technology isn't there yet. That's not anyone's fault. But yes, men can't have unprotected sex and not end u… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/19 10:57 AM |
| 0 | Men do a lot of talking about what they hate about women, but what they really hate is accountability.Not sure it's particularly different for women either though, I think men are more likely to put up with a woman not fulfilling their role entirely, and when women leave for that same reason it then leads to the man feeling outraged and that they are immoral. Men and women view gender roles differently. Men see them as rules to live by, women see them as instructions for completing a task. The task used to be to find a good man to provide for her so she made herself beautiful and submissive. She… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/19 10:51 AM |
| 9 | Men do a lot of talking about what they hate about women, but what they really hate is accountability.Or we can make the fathers pay. That'll limit the number of children he can abandon while still being able to afford to live. Great idea. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/19 10:20 AM |
| 4 | Men do a lot of talking about what they hate about women, but what they really hate is accountability.If we just ignore what people do and they show no signs of change and repeat the same mistakes, it is your responsibility to at least shed some light for them. Would you not want the same done to you? Yes, but no, I would leave them to do it themselves. They have to want to do it. If their behavior is harmful or toxic though they have to go. They're a waste of time until they decide they want to change. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/19 10:14 AM |
| 4 | Men do a lot of talking about what they hate about women, but what they really hate is accountability.The only other option is to legit be a monk because you're afraid of the possible consequences of having sex. Are you celibate? Because I would assume that you would not expect any more from others that you would expect from yourself. I don't have to be celibate, I have access to several kinds of reliable birth control. When men have the same they can stop being monks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/19 10:09 AM |
| 1 | Men do a lot of talking about what they hate about women, but what they really hate is accountability.That doesn't happen, women still overwhelmingly get custody/support by default. Partly because of bias against men, and partly because men are still overwhelmingly indoctrinated that they can't be good single dads. Children have a lot of say when it comes to who gets the kids. The courts aren't biased against men, kids are. And who can blame them when dad is competing with them for mom's attention when they should be parenting them. I was raised by a single mother. Children see the situation dif… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/19 10:05 AM |
| 3 | Men do a lot of talking about what they hate about women, but what they really hate is accountability.9 times out of 10 she's explaining how something he either did or didn't do is effecting her. Something important can't happen because he didn't do his part. He did something that's others are going to have to deal with through no fault of their own. All he has to do is put some effort into doing whatever he has to to making sure things get done. Or he can try to shoulder more of the burdens from his misbehaviors. And I say "put in an effort" and "try" because that's all anyone wants from him. T… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/19 09:05 AM |
| 1 | Men do a lot of talking about what they hate about women, but what they really hate is accountability.I trust men to take care of themselves. So misandrist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/19 07:46 AM |
| -1 | Men do a lot of talking about what they hate about women, but what they really hate is accountability.Less than half. Now split that number between women doing it for money and ones that aren't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/19 07:40 AM |
| 4 | Men do a lot of talking about what they hate about women, but what they really hate is accountability.Not enough to be statistically significant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/19 07:28 AM |
| 4 | Men do a lot of talking about what they hate about women, but what they really hate is accountability.Laughable. The number of women in the workplace says different. Half of them could have a husband by the end of this week if they wanted one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/19 07:25 AM |
| 2 | Men do a lot of talking about what they hate about women, but what they really hate is accountability.Yes, architects and construction workers are truly the echelons of society. All glory to the architects and construction workers. Does that do anything for you? Probably not. You probably haven't accomplished jack shit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/19 07:13 AM |
| 3 | Men do a lot of talking about what they hate about women, but what they really hate is accountability.a lot of these statements are loaded in the sense that your argument views men to be borderline evil. That's not entirely true - they're just fatally incompetent and they've been lied to their entire lives about it. I can agree with this. But if men like this are hard to be around, are unintentionally harming others and then refusing accountability, is it so odd that women don't want anything to do with them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/19 07:08 AM |
| 18 | Men do a lot of talking about what they hate about women, but what they really hate is accountability.The father is directly linked to the child's creation, making him directly responsible. Unless you want to make the argument that we're all equally accountable for what our peers do, then social support makes perfect sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/19 06:56 AM |
| 14 | Men do a lot of talking about what they hate about women, but what they really hate is accountability.As someone that would have to pay to take care of every bastard you create otherwise, explain why you're less accountable than I am. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/19 06:31 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Being afraid of rape accusation or being #Metoo'd, is ridiculous compared to the fear of being raped or assaulted.Honestly, if I'm ever raped I hope the guy kills me. I don't want to live with what that's going to do to me. I'd be better off dead. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/19 04:48 AM |
| 1 | How can men also hit the wall if they keep gaining desirability till 50, according to studies?We know they do, we just don't want to see, hear or think about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/19 04:43 AM |
| 6 | How can men also hit the wall if they keep gaining desirability till 50, according to studies?Keep in mind that women are still more valuable in the SMP. A 50 year old woman can still be sexy to younger men. A 50 year old man we like to think of as "post-sexual". He's not really supposed to be having sex. At a certain point old men stop being men and start being "someone's grandpa". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/19 05:30 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Men aren't out of touch with their emotions; men are simply more emotionally matureWe're supposed to let our emotions out. All of them. If we're not it's because we're afraid or ashamed, which might as well be fear and shame for being human. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/19 05:23 PM |
| 1 | Why are bloops and feminists so obsessed with the metaphor of the wall?What can I get with him that I can't do myself? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/19 05:15 PM |
| 1 | Men on a whole are more easily manipulated by women than vice versa.In my argument it is more responsibly to put down the "no" when you suspect that feelings are being formed that you do not share, rather than ignore the conflict which will inevitably rear its ugly head. Yes, but even you admit that she would have to make every man she interacts with aware of whether he has a chance with her. Not doing so "leaves him in limbo". What a man does in response to you is not on your head so long as you acted in good faith, and not bad faith. Women can't argue in the "… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/19 03:30 AM |
| -1 | What are the best theories/explanations for male disposability?Men hate other men. Or at least dismiss the thought of learning from them or asking for help from other men. This leads to a vicious cycle, men have to be the ones to call attention to the issue. That would mean not only asking for help, but from a majority male organization (the government). Most would rather die. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/19 04:47 PM |
| 1 | PPD men refuse to justify their view because even they know it wouldn't stand up in court. Societal collapse is the only way to get what they want.Talks of government intervention. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/19 09:25 AM |
| 1 | Men on a whole are more easily manipulated by women than vice versa.That makes every single woman accountable for every single lonely man. She has to then justify why she doesn't want to date every man that takes an interest in her. And more to the point, makes it hard to live without having to entertain men she otherwise wouldn't. Because if she can't come up with a good reason does she owe him a date? I always have a good reason for not dating someone, but men are what they are. Give them a reason and they'll immediately go out and try to make it happen. But r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/19 09:24 AM |
| 1 | PPD men refuse to justify their view because even they know it wouldn't stand up in court. Societal collapse is the only way to get what they want.If it's that simple how come there are no attempts to legislate these things? Why don't men try to change the law instead of sitting around waiting for a decline the majority of them probably won't enjoy? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/19 09:01 AM |
| 3 | PPD men refuse to justify their view because even they know it wouldn't stand up in court. Societal collapse is the only way to get what they want.That the government should intervene in the SMP in order to prevent a collapse from a lack of motivated men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/19 08:00 AM |
| 1 | Why are bloops and feminists so obsessed with the metaphor of the wall?Do you know women who have been dumped by long-term partners? I wasn't dumped, but I did leave a long-term partner. Inconvenient is definitely the right word but only when it came to paperwork. Other than that, not really. It wasn't even that big a deal to anyone. Best case scenario, really. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/18 02:54 PM |
| 1 | If feminists and women say they want men to change, why not help men to communicate empathically?Men are capable of teaching themselves. They first have to understand that they are a part of a group that has its own culture. When they look at themselves in the mirror they see their individuality, others don't. They're just a man and will be treated as such. Being treated like an individual is impossible without familiarity. These days when we talk about gender we usually mean women. Second, men need to understand that their experiences are completely different than others. They need to unde… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/18 06:10 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: What kind of women does RP attract?Attractive women. RP put them on a pedestal, like a trophy that proves how alpha they are. Only the most attractive women are worthy of being thought of as people. And by people, i mean someone to give whatever will keep them from leaving. Other women will be blamed for pulling them away from their trophies so to contribute to a society that includes unattractive women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/18 05:13 AM |
| 1 | Why are bloops and feminists so obsessed with the metaphor of the wall?Irrelevant. And will remain so as long as we don't have control over where our tax dollars go. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/18 04:45 AM |
| 9 | Men's innate horniness is what put them at a disadvantage therefore technology should be created to allow them to regulate it.Let's just imagine if 70% of all bottom 90% men "shut off" their sexual impulses for a year and instead focused wholeheartedly on whatever their goals were; I think a lot of SMP dynamic issues would be solved and productivity levels would increase. Yes. Fuck yes. I agree completely. Let's fund this right now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/18 07:56 PM |
| 1 | If feminists and women say they want men to change, why not help men to communicate empathically?No one's gonna care about you if you tell them they're disgusting rapists who have no real problems and the things they need to express aren't important. Women aren't aware their actions are "teaching" men how to behave. If they did, they wouldn't want men doing that. Women want men to figure things out on their own through trial and error like they did. If women don't want that task they don't have to take it, it was never her responsibility anyway. It's always been men's responsibility, as is … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/18 07:51 PM |
| 1 | Why are bloops and feminists so obsessed with the metaphor of the wall?The wall is and never WAS about sex FFS! It is about commitment from a desirable high value male. Commitment from a high value male isn't valuable. It's as valuable as a carrot you can buy already chopped and peeled as opposed to just a whole carrot. A time/effort saver but not necessary. A convenience bordering on excess. Sure the wall exists, but if it's of so little consequence is it even worth mentioning? If the people experiencing it aren't being inconvenienced is it even a bad thing? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/18 07:41 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP: AF / BB and Branch SwingingThat sounds like a coincidence. There are plenty of women that would've found an average build attractive enough to break off a relationship. But really, "branch swinging" amounts to dating. When you're not feeling it you break up and move on. That's ok in a boyfriend/girlfriend relationship. It's meant to be a trial period. If it's not going to work out it's better that it doesn't early on in that phase. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/18 07:55 AM |
| 2 | What exactly is it about marriage that makes women want it so badly?It was drilled into my head from an early age that you were supposed to get married. It wasn't stated outright, but it's an obvious expectation. Going so long into adulthood without having at least one LTR is seen as odd. It's an unspoken rite of passage. And just like an actual rite of passage, you're not considered a fully formed adult without having gone through it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/18 06:19 AM |
| 1 | Why are bloops and feminists so obsessed with the metaphor of the wall?"The wall" concept ignores a fact of life that we're all aware of, that the ugliest woman can still find a guy to fuck her. She can find several men to fuck her. There's probably a magazine dedicated to women that look just like her with a sizable number of subscribers. But the ugliest man? No woman is going to fuck him. Women are going to run from him. Priests will try to drive demons from him. Children will tell stories about him that'll one day become urban legends. And the claim that women v… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/18 04:04 AM |
| 7 | If feminists and women say they want men to change, why not help men to communicate empathically?There are too many men for women to educate. Women's greatest struggle is convincing men our experiences are different and just as valid as theirs. Honestly, that alone would solve the problem completely. Because when you understand what another person is going through you can't help but communicate with them on their level. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/18 03:37 AM |
| 0 | How do you know you're being shamed?But again, the perception of humans is flawed. True, there's no strict guidelines. Every behavior is bad to someone and will be shamed at some point. So your choices are to accommodate everyone, which is impossible, accommodate everyone, which is possible. Or accommodate who you see fit and ignore the rest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/18 08:41 AM |
| 1 | How do you know you're being shamed?"If" it is, shaming is justified, right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/18 07:49 AM |
| 1 | How do you know you're being shamed?Although shame can be accompanied by some kinds of violence or transgression of a persons well-being/happiness. Yes, but if it's bad behavior, especially the kinds that effect others, discipline is justified. Of course it might lead to a loss in happiness if bad behavior makes you happy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/18 07:43 AM |
| 1 | How do you know you're being shamed?That sounds more like "discipline" than "shame." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/18 07:32 AM |
| 0 | How do you know you're being shamed?To find out an answer to a question. Duh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/18 07:08 AM |
| 2 | Is there the beginning of a radical push to end the sexual revolution?That's a gigantic straw man. We're routinely blamed for most things in society, especially regarding gender dynamics. Does that blame effect your life negatively or is just talk? Because if society's crime amounts to hurting your feelings you're going to have to get thicker skin. I guarantee it's not the last time | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/18 06:22 AM |
| 2 | CMV: You cannot look down on working women/mothers and then also oppose hypergamy.For the same reason women have never felt a need to hold perfect equity in their end of the social contract. The current social contract is "Put up with it or walk away. You're not necessary." Women expect men to be able to make the same choices she has access to, regardless of how much harder it would be because he's a man. For some reason, men get more out of being married than women. But he's free to go anytime, so if he stays, it's on him. Just like her, if he doesn't like his wife's behavio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/18 06:16 AM |
| 3 | CMV: You cannot look down on working women/mothers and then also oppose hypergamy.One was identical to feminist arguments about men not taking on enough housework, parenting and 'emotional labour.' The other was that most men these days suck trying to be BOTH housewife AND breadwinner. It'd be nice to hear a man actually justify WHY he shouldn't have to do something rather than just say the mere suggestion is outrageous and that everyone thinks it's stupid too. But hey, if you never explain your position you don't have to worry that it might be wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/18 05:09 AM |
| 2 | Is there the beginning of a radical push to end the sexual revolution?Apparently, if a man contributes to society that doesn't cultivate the kind of ideal woman he wants he's working for nothing. Society allows women to surpass men, men are finding it difficult to find a tradcon woman, the majority of men continue to contribute to society, the majority of men must support fewer tradcon women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/18 04:48 AM |
| 3 | Is there the beginning of a radical push to end the sexual revolution?Women today would rather work than marry specifically for money. That is prostitution as far as a woman is concerned. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/18 04:23 AM |
| 3 | What's up with your taste in men?Do you have oddball choices in men your friends/other girls wouldn't agree with? Sure. Do you even know your choice is not typical until someone brings it up to you? IDGAF. What makes your particular hottness ratings more personal rather than objective? I'm attracted to baby faces. Big buff guys don't have baby faces, average realistic men do, and there's no shortage of them. How can women not all come to the same consensus on hottness like men do? A combination of genuinely not caring what othe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/18 03:47 AM |
| 0 | We don't punish women for selfishness because it... benefits us?We're more interested in each other's immune systems than genetics. Genes can be cancelled out, immune systems combine. And don't even get me started on epigenetics. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/18 12:21 AM |
| 2 | Why do y’all ask for women’s opinions/experiences and then not believe us?Someone's triggered. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/18 12:17 AM |
| 0 | We don't punish women for selfishness because it... benefits us?It's more like a matching game. Some genes do good things, some do bad, some do nothing. The goal is to avoid matching too many of the really bad genes as they're more likely to be passed to any offspring. The genes that do nothing can also become bad if the other parent has them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/18 10:38 PM |
| 12 | Why do y’all ask for women’s opinions/experiences and then not believe us?Bullshit. There's no equal treatment from you. I don't see you treating other men on here like they're all liars, unless they say something you don't agree with. What you say doesn't line up with what you do. Maybe you're actually a self-hating woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/18 10:27 PM |
| 1 | Q4Women: If you chose to not hold out for a man who wasn't in the top 20% of SMV... why?I did this! It was specifically because I believed being married to a good man would make me happy. I was attracted to him, had plenty in common with him but was never enthusiastically in love. I thought with time the feelings would come, that's what people in arranged marriages say. I kept waiting for being someone's wife to matter, for the true love to come. After ten years I couldn't do it anymore. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/18 03:27 AM |
| 1 | Men on a whole are more easily manipulated by women than vice versa.to assert that manipulation can be accidental is a perversion of the English language; manipulation by its definition requires intent, it requires cunning. Let's not argue semantics. I'm interpreting these two statements as contradictory: When a woman is in the presence of a man who may be attracted to her she does, I believe, have an ethical responsibility to recognize that he might be pining for her affection. If she is not manipulating him and he feels compelled to act in a certain way for he… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/18 04:56 PM |
| 3 | Q4Women: Would you rather be a 21 year old who slept around between the ages of 16-20, or a 28 year old virgin?Meh. I slept around for a few years. I was celibate for a few years. There was no difference whatsoever. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/18 05:51 AM |
| 2 | Q4 Females : How much of a deal breaker is a small penis to you in a relationship?What's even the point then? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/18 05:35 AM |
| 1 | Men on a whole are more easily manipulated by women than vice versa.So far you've argued that it's not harassment, though women say differently, and that you need to approach women you're attracted to because...I don't know. You're incapable of controlling your impulses and asking you to do so puts an undue burden on you? Blue balls is a serious medical issue that can seriously damage men's ability to have children? A gypsy put a curse on you and if you don't talk to random women you'll die?? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/18 04:22 PM |
| 1 | Men on a whole are more easily manipulated by women than vice versa.we’re not afraid to be direct and honest and say “Sorry, I’m not interested” without taking it as a personal attack that they wanted to interact with us. Irrelevant. Justify why you need to approach random women, then explain why that need should have priority over being left alone in public spaces. Keep in mind this is basically an argument in favor of harassment. Can you justify harassing someone? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/18 03:39 PM |
| 2 | Female attention to beauty doesn't seem to add upThe scientific term is concealed ovulation. What I'm talking about specifically is in this article. But once external signs of ovulation had been phased out in the human lineage, according to FCC, menstruation became salient as the one remaining external promise of fertility. Potentially, dominant males might exploit such information, repeatedly targeting newly cycling females at the expense of pregnant or nursing mothers (figure e). Those who might lose male investment needed to take control. A… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/18 02:33 PM |
| 2 | Female attention to beauty doesn't seem to add upMales of other species are born with their beautiful colors. Humans are disgusting greasy sacks of meat. We have to manufacture our colors, which we do with fabric and makeup. It's actually better than a peacock. We can change our displays at our leisure. Women wear certain colors on our faces because when humans stood upright our vulvas became hidden from male's sight. Primates of other species walk with their genitals on full display. Males can see when females are fertile with their own eyes.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/18 09:49 AM |
| 2 | Men on a whole are more easily manipulated by women than vice versa.Especially if they want to propose the double standard of men controlling themselves while women are unable to be held accountable for not controlling themselves because they conveniently can’t control anything I can play this game. I'll argue that women are also expected to control themselves when attractive men are around, I propose men also make themselves less attractive so not to burden any women with unwanted arousal. Yeah, let's all agree to let ourselves go completely, then being burdene… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/18 09:32 AM |
| 7 | Men on a whole are more easily manipulated by women than vice versa.To what end? If a woman can't make herself unattractive to every man what choice does she have? It's unreasonable to ask her to account for every man in existence. What men are being asked to do isn't comparable in the slightest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/18 07:31 AM |
| 12 | Men on a whole are more easily manipulated by women than vice versa.Of course. We should all be held accountable for our actions. Actions being the operative word here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/18 06:48 AM |
| 6 | Men on a whole are more easily manipulated by women than vice versa.Yes, those capable of control should be accountable for such. What good does holding someone accountable that can't do anything do? Nothing happens. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/18 06:46 AM |
| 6 | Men on a whole are more easily manipulated by women than vice versa.No, he does have the ability to control himself. To not do so shifts the burden to women who, once again, are incapable of controlling anything. Holding men accountable is the only reasonable option with actual results. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/18 05:45 AM |
| 5 | Middle aged men and fertilityMarry men their own age. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/18 05:03 AM |
| 8 | Men on a whole are more easily manipulated by women than vice versa.What’s an import point? Hi there. My point was that women don't have control over whether men are manipulated by their attraction to her. Asking women to account for that is asking her to account for being a woman. That's both unfair and unreasonable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/18 04:29 AM |
| 5 | Q4W: What legal and social privileges do you think women should have that men shouldn't?Should having a womb entitle a woman to demand that a man bring more to the table in a courtship situation than a woman? She's entitled to demand whatever a man is willing to pay. The fact that he desires her more than she ever could isn't her fault. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/18 03:51 AM |
| 10 | Men on a whole are more easily manipulated by women than vice versa.You'd have to find a woman with enough testosterone to make her stupid enough to do something like that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/18 03:33 AM |
| 10 | Men on a whole are more easily manipulated by women than vice versa.My main point is that women influence men even when they don't intend to, like that guy just buying a watch without being manipulated by anyone. To ask women to account for that is no different than asking women to account for being women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/18 03:23 AM |
| 6 | Men on a whole are more easily manipulated by women than vice versa.Right. And since she has no choice, men asking her to account for anything is de facto asking her to account for being a woman. That's unreasonable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/18 03:14 AM |
| 9 | Men on a whole are more easily manipulated by women than vice versa.It may not seem intentional ...but it kinda it's. Because women are aware of their influence over men they're automatically acting with intent? How does a woman keep from influencing men? If she has no choice either way is it fair to ask anything of her? Women have agency. They have no agency over how men perceive them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/18 03:00 AM |
| 15 | Men on a whole are more easily manipulated by women than vice versa.This is all mostly unconscious. I consider manipulation an act one intentionally does to make another behave the way they want. If a man wants to change his behavior to meet a woman she's not manipulating him, she has no intent. He's being manipulated by his attraction to her. Big difference. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/18 12:17 AM |
| 23 | Men on a whole are more easily manipulated by women than vice versa.Does this take unconscious manipulation into account? Or are we assuming all women who take the time to look presentable are consciously seeking to manipulate any men that cross her path? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/18 11:44 PM |
| 11 | Q4 Females : How much of a deal breaker is a small penis to you in a relationship?A large penis doesn't necessarily mean better sex. In fact, it's more likely to be painful. I've run from a big guy once after the first time and the agonizing day after. But really, penis size has nothing to do with how a man will be in bed. Size isn't important unless it's really really small or really really big. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/18 11:26 PM |
| 1 | Why not blanket qualify "hitting on women" as sexual harassment?Why is that? I assumed that's what you meant. It wasn't clear so I guessed. Women seem to be of the opinion, though, that they should be given jobs simply because they’re women or because they want it, and there must be some discrimination or “foul play” at work if a man is given the job instead. Only when women are passed up for less qualified men that it's considered discriminatory. If employers can prove otherwise they're off the hook. No problem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/18 11:19 PM |
| 1 | Q4M : How would you react if you have doubts / find out you've been lied about being the biological father of your children?Children are more valuable than men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/18 10:02 PM |
| 2 | Why not blanket qualify "hitting on women" as sexual harassment?“Person 1 is slow and or incompetent and has no direction so person 2/3/4 either attempts to walk them through what they’re doing and/or moves Person 1 out of the way to do the task that Person 1 was failing to do efficiently and expediently.” In my experience, it's been "person 1 knows what they're doing but persons 2/3/4 need to impress person 1. So they destroy what makes person 1 not need them, rebuild it in their image, create a beautiful gilded cage for person 1, then congratulate themselv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/18 08:55 PM |
| 3 | Why not blanket qualify "hitting on women" as sexual harassment?They do. Having to do it so often and have a possible hostile response, that's the problem. But really, you're reply shows you didn't read. I was saying that men shouldn't be discouraged from doing what they want with their appearances by worrying what women will think. This is a sign of insecurity. Insecurity is an unfavorable personality trait. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/18 07:21 PM |
| 4 | Q4W: What is a good reason why men should get married in today's times?By default it seems, men can lose their primary custody or even may never see their kids and never be an influence on their children again even if they want to be or are the better parent for his kids. How can this be reconciled? Do we get rid of joint custody, instead awarding full custody to whichever parent is deemed better? Do we force divorced couples to cohabitate for the sake of the kids? These options lead to more problems. With alimony, child support, and how expensive lawyers are, a ma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/18 07:14 PM |
| 3 | Why not blanket qualify "hitting on women" as sexual harassment?The type of equality you are referring to is “half yours and half mine. Men have ruled for X amount of time, so now it’s women’s turn to rule for X amount of time.” More like, "men have ruled for X amount of time, let's keep that from happening again. When men rule over women it doesn't work out well for them." If women (and feminists) are going to talk about wanting “equality,” then they should at least be honest about which type of equality they want. Assured. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/18 06:45 PM |
| 2 | Why not blanket qualify "hitting on women" as sexual harassment?That’s how most of your ancestors met. That’s how so much couples today met. Irrelevant. The opportunity for a romantic relationship doesn't make up for all of the women that said no before her. Besides, putting clear restrictions on how far a man can go won't eliminate courtship altogether. Nothing can do that. There are already implicit rules for approaching people respectfully. What some men consider respectful would be considered harassment under the law. Or let’s also ban asking for money i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/18 05:56 PM |
| 7 | Why not blanket qualify "hitting on women" as sexual harassment?Taking steps to prevent theoretical uncomfortable situations = dystopian. It's not theoretical to women. Being unable to relate I admit makes it seem theoretical. But for men to completely dismiss it looks like they're purposely ignoring women's pleas for peace so they can intentionally bother them without looking like a dick. I think men should try to justify why his need to approach women supersedes her right to not be harassed. Of course, you'll be building a case in support of harassment. Do… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/18 04:59 PM |
| 3 | Why not blanket qualify "hitting on women" as sexual harassment?So what? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/18 04:41 PM |
| 7 | Why not blanket qualify "hitting on women" as sexual harassment?"I have to be equal to people I would've once dominated. I live in a dystopia." "Those weaker than me are capable of holding me accountable for my actions. So dystopian." "Considering the other's humanity feels wrong. The dystopia is directly attacking me personally." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/18 04:40 PM |
| 11 | Why not blanket qualify "hitting on women" as sexual harassment?Men should grow a spine and do what they want to do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/18 04:33 PM |
| 5 | Why not blanket qualify "hitting on women" as sexual harassment?When an unattractive man "hits on" a woman he wants to get in her pants. No, both definitely want in our pants. I just flirt with women because it's fun, I don't expect anything else except some practice for my banter and perhaps a nice chit chat once in a while. So you're a waste of time. You're minutes of my life I can't get back | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/18 04:31 PM |
| 2 | Men should stop complaining about women.Females of most species choose males. The process of choosing is never fair. Human women are doing what females are meant to do, weed out the males with extreme prejudice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/18 01:45 PM |
| 1 | It's all about control.The idea that when women promote laws they're protective is stupid since Prohibition wasn't protective. Not only do they promote protective laws, the protections apply to men and women who need them. Prohibition protected women and children from being terrorized by drunks. I want strict equality under law, with no prejudice. That's never going to happen. Someone is going to oppose what's happening and want to throw some shame at it. Acknowledging that means accepting permanent victimhood. Men wi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/18 01:34 PM |
| 0 | It's all about control.There are feminist activist groups that tried to ban pornography broadly But haven't. There is a campaign against sex robots ran by feminist academics, based in the UK. That hasn't succeeded. Women aren't banned from applying for any job in any field. Why do we need "women in STEM" initiatives? We want everyone in STEM initiatives, the job market will be more secure. But that leaves fewer spots open for men, which they need to have an advantage in the SMP, the only problem men have with it and w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/18 10:41 AM |
| 2 | It's all about control.In brief, tu quoque. I'll revise my opinion when women and feminists get out of the way of technologies and practices and subcultures that provide male autonomy from women. Nothing you described are banned, just not necessarily supported/promoted by women. Men are free to support their own interests. Why do they need women to do anything? Everything you described are accessible to men today. You say women want power but without legislative bans none has actually been taken away. Shaming, not sup… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/18 04:13 AM |
| 3 | If all men were to make significant improvements to themselves all around, would women reject less often or would they only increase their standards?With every man attractive all that's left are avoiding those with unfavorable personality traits. Just like now, they'll have to actually be good SOs (depending on what that specific woman values) if they want LTRs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/18 10:58 PM |
| 1 | Lover vs. Provider is REALShe wouldn't leave him for a beta. She can skip the beta altogether and go through pump and dumps at her leisure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/18 10:52 PM |
| 1 | Lover vs. Provider is REALShe doesn't need him either. If she wants another there are plenty of men that would jump at the chance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/18 10:42 PM |
| 1 | Lover vs. Provider is REALI read, and have come to the conclusion that since women are now capable of supporting themselves it's less trouble to skip the beta altogether and keep the pump and dump. That way she has control of the money and doesn't have to stress about getting caught. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/18 07:29 PM |
| 2 | Q4TRP: What’s your opinion on female led relationships?I can relate. I wasn't "smarter" than my ex-husband but I did have more life experiences. He wanted me to take charge, partly because he trusted me, but mostly because he didn't want to grow up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/18 02:36 PM |
| 2 | Lover vs. Provider is REALThis premise falls apart when factoring in that women can provide for a family. She saves herself a lot of trouble being single and doing everything you've described. But let's say she does have a boyfriend. If he's not working he's a leach on the household. So him having a job isn't him providing for her, he's pulling his own weight so his girlfriend will allow him to continue living with her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/18 02:29 PM |
| 2 | Attraction and mentally ill womanThe kinds of women that are eager to put other's needs before their own are oftentimes suffering from some kind of disorder. To a man, she'll seem dedicated if not ideal. But he'll find that she'll take it too far, ignoring her health and wellbeing to the point where she's hurting herself. But more importantly it's all to satisfy a need, to fill a void no one is capable of making feel better. She'll either blame her man for not doing enough or blame herself and start to create distance for his s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/18 06:46 AM |
| 3 | What are some mistakes you have seen or heard recently that people have been making when it comes to dating?That never being questioned and being respected are the same thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/18 10:42 PM |
| 1 | Division of Labor at home?A shit deal means losing more than one can gain. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/18 04:49 PM |
| 4 | Division of Labor at home?Why do I get weird looks when I tell some women I do all the house work? I understand how they feel. You took the shit deal. At a time when you're free to do better, you take the shit deal. It's the shit deal no matter how you look at it. It's very odd. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/18 03:44 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Looks actually don't matter for menStop trying to assign order to chaos. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/18 03:36 PM |
| 2 | Are socially adept men really “dominant,” or are they just “playful,” “fun,” and "good communicators"?"Getting it" with one group won't necessarily work with another. How do you know the difference? Try, fail, learn, repeat. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/18 03:34 PM |
| 12 | Are socially adept men really “dominant,” or are they just “playful,” “fun,” and "good communicators"?Social interaction is like driving. You can learn the basics, but you can't be taught everything you're going to need throughout your life. Driving is how you become a better driver. Same with social interaction. Confident men are confident because they've taken their lumps and have learned how to cope. They know that they'll survive the worst because they survived their worst experience. That can't be taught. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/18 06:06 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Looks actually don't matter for menPeople, and that means men, are not something that can be categorized. A woman can say she likes tall men but that means the guys she like tend to be tall, not that she'll automatically be attracted to all tall men. Women need to be aware of something before they can want it. What we're attracted to evolves. It's not set in stone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/18 05:59 AM |
| 1 | What's so special about marriageWe hold on to it as tightly as we do because in the west it's a rite of passage that marks our societal adulthood. Legal adulthood does nothing to scratch that itch as it takes no effort and has no risks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/18 05:50 AM |
| 2 | Why the absolutes when it comes to what's considered a lie?a bunch of assholes who want there to be an easy answer where there will never be one. TRP defined. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/18 03:03 PM |
| 2 | Men are relentless liars, because men truly believe whatever they have to believe to believe they are high statusThis makes sense. That's why every guy another guy is always some loser even if he knows nothing about him. That's why men refuse to justify their views, they automatically assume it's the correct stance that others haven't realized yet. That's why they assume a single woman must be miserable, she's not dating him. And given that they attribute wealth with high status, something precious to them, they assume the best women must just want their money and status. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/18 07:29 AM |
| 1 | The Purpose of MarriageRight now, since women can support themselves and we have ability to determine paternity, marriage is a rite of passage. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/18 03:29 AM |
| 9 | What do people get wrong when it comes to love?That relationships equal happiness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/18 03:10 AM |
| 1 | Why the absolutes when it comes to what's considered a lie?I am not naive, I know that people that use those words rarely are able to keep their word. Then you're purposely using their use of rhetorical language to determine whether someone is a liar without letting them know. Many would choose their words more carefully if they were aware you interpreted things differently. You set them up for failure. By that logic, whether or not a person is a liar depends solely on the outcome of the relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/18 07:17 PM |
| 1 | Why the absolutes when it comes to what's considered a lie?But looking at it that way dismisses the obvious, that there are manipulators with intent on supressing the parts of women's human nature that inconvenience them. That's immoral. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/18 07:07 PM |
| 1 | Why the absolutes when it comes to what's considered a lie?Preferring/encouraging women's agency to be used a certain way is not the same as denying it. Yes it is, it's called manipulation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/18 05:56 PM |
| 1 | Why the absolutes when it comes to what's considered a lie?Calls for submission and deference. Not to mention the collective lament over what women's ability not to need them is doing for their sex lives. Constant suggestions on how to condition the next generation of women to behave how men want them to. Men want to take away my ability to ignore them completely. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/18 05:32 PM |
| 1 | Why the absolutes when it comes to what's considered a lie?I do explore why. But men's solutions all involve reducing my right to agency so I dismiss them. But i'll admit, even if men had a compelling argument, and they don't, I'd still dismiss them. I'd need to hear justifications. Men seem to refuse to make any. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/18 05:19 PM |
| 1 | Why the absolutes when it comes to what's considered a lie?Isn't context important? Isn't she also lying when she says "I'll love you forever" because she won't be alive forever? Now it's not an absolute statement at all. Anyone that believes that is showing their naivete. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/18 05:11 PM |
| 1 | Why the absolutes when it comes to what's considered a lie?If you like certain food, it is reasonable to assume that you won't grab the only person who produces this particular food in 100 mile radius, drag them through the court, take away their assets and children. It is reasonable to assume it. I wouldn't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/18 05:07 PM |
| 1 | Why the absolutes when it comes to what's considered a lie?I do have to remember that. But then I go to work and hear so much of the same things from the men. Not anywhere as egregious, but similar. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/18 07:47 AM |
| 1 | [Q4W] How much do looks and "personality" matter relative to each other?Status does nothing for me. My opinion of a man is the only opinion that matters, imo. Personality is more of a factor for sure. But a guy with a good personality that's not that attractive is still not worth the time. His attractiveness level then would be what I use to choose whether to engage, with his personality being what I use to choose whether to disengage. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/18 07:35 AM |
| 2 | Q4M: Would having your wealth in cryptocurrency protect yourself from being divorce raped?Marry a woman that makes more than you. Problem solved. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/18 07:20 AM |
| 1 | Why the absolutes when it comes to what's considered a lie?Both can do wrong, but it's men that'll refuse any responsibility. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/18 07:18 AM |
| 2 | Why the absolutes when it comes to what's considered a lie?Why do you bring this up? There's nothing wrong with being bitter after a break up. Women talking shit about her ex is just talk, nothing comes of it. Men tend to act out their emotions on others. In this case, women are being labeled as downright evil, so much so she should be restricted, for prioritizing her own interests. Women's choices then are to give up their agency or be punished. She can't win. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/18 07:17 AM |
| 1 | Why the absolutes when it comes to what's considered a lie?But a woman will ultimately blame herself for falling for a guy like that and try not to make the same mistakes in the future. The man will think of himself as a victim that never did anything wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/18 05:54 AM |
| 1 | Why the absolutes when it comes to what's considered a lie?The percentage of men on reddit making that claim compared to women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/18 05:44 AM |
| 1 | Why the absolutes when it comes to what's considered a lie?You're not being serious, but yeah. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/18 05:43 AM |
| 1 | Why the absolutes when it comes to what's considered a lie?Because abusive men are playing a different game, they're just using the SMP to find what they're really after, a victim. They target women that are going to be easy to trap, usually ones that grew up in abusive homes, find it familiar and decide to stay on their own. They oftentimes have CPTSD. People like that are "attracted" to abusers the same way war veterans are "attracted" to war. A woman with self-worth would never stick around to be abused. You can't lump them all together. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/18 05:32 AM |
| -1 | Why the absolutes when it comes to what's considered a lie?I spoke wrong. It's manipulation if it's done with intent to guilt someone into doing something. But there is difference between rationalization to better understand and to deflect all wrongdoing. Men do the latter more often than women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/18 05:06 AM |
| 2 | Why the absolutes when it comes to what's considered a lie?Women rationalize behavior. Dealing in absolutes eliminates the need for rationalization. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/18 05:00 AM |
| 0 | Why the absolutes when it comes to what's considered a lie?That's manipulation. It's wrong whenever anyone does it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/18 04:55 AM |
| 0 | Why the absolutes when it comes to what's considered a lie?It's men that claim a woman that breaks up with him must've been lying about ever loving him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/18 04:40 AM |
| 1 | Why the absolutes when it comes to what's considered a lie?Not when it comes to relationships. Men will claim that a woman that breaks up with him for any reason must've been lying about ever loving him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/18 04:39 AM |
| 3 | Why the absolutes when it comes to what's considered a lie?More like adding context. I love my favorite food but it's not great for breakfast. I have a favorite breakfast food but I don't like it more than my favorite food, so it's not my favorite. At no point did I ever lie about my favorite food. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/18 04:26 AM |
| 3 | Why the absolutes when it comes to what's considered a lie?Men consider any deviation from a stated stance as the negation of ever having that stance. If you don't want what you state to like 100% of the time you've been lying about ever having liked it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/18 04:21 AM |
| 2 | Why the absolutes when it comes to what's considered a lie?But to claim that im a liar because of it is extreme. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/18 04:16 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: How do you feel about TRP reducing women down to math problems?As long as there's one man to value her she'll be treated like a queen by somebody. That stops when men stop valuing women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/18 03:45 AM |
| 16 | Schopenhauer's "On Women"We don't need money anymore, so I guess now we're entitled to men who aren't a pain in the ass? Tell me more about how evil women are for the egregiousness of not needing them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/18 03:19 PM |
| 1 | "Familiarity Breeds Contempt", why women can't seem to make up their minds.Your stance toxic relationships are the norm is equally bizarre and telling. It's not if you watched nothing but the Disney channel growing up. But when you know so many people from abusive homes as I do, you realize how common it is. Just look at our overflowing foster system for an indication of how common abuse is. Your OP was clearly not about the purpose of marriage but the feasibility of it. Right. But the kind of marriage an RP man would value, that's not feasible as long as women are fre… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/18 03:09 PM |
| 1 | "Familiarity Breeds Contempt", why women can't seem to make up their minds.This is an effective argument against getting married. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/18 09:31 AM |
| 0 | How can we narrow the intragender communication gap?This wiki article does nothing for your case: Marc A. Ouellette argues in International Encyclopedia of Men and Masculinities that "misandry lacks the systemic, transhistoric, institutionalized, and legislated antipathy of misogyny"; in his view, assuming a parallel between misogyny and misandry overly simplifies relations of gender and power. Anthropologist David D. Gilmore also argues that misogyny is a "near-universal phenomenon" and that there is no male equivalent to misogyny, further defen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/18 09:28 AM |
| 0 | "Familiarity Breeds Contempt", why women can't seem to make up their minds.By that same logic I shouldn't get to know anyone, they might die some day. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/18 07:53 AM |
| 1 | "Familiarity Breeds Contempt", why women can't seem to make up their minds.Why are you acting like toxic relationships are the norm? THEY ARE. Abuse is pervasive in just about every society in any given time period. It's not a great pill to swallow, but toxicity towards those closest to us is human nature. And who's closer than family? That’s fine. Do you. But you’re not an authority on it. The only authority to answer to was whatever the purpose of marriage was. Now that it has no purpose, it has no authority. It's a luxury item, like a second car. There's nothing wro… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/18 07:50 AM |
| 0 | How can we narrow the intragender communication gap?The anti-men ones. Give me specific examples. I don't know what you mean by demonstrably, I tried to clarify but you ignored me. Did I demonstrate how angry feminism sometimes harms men in my 2 links or not? I would've, but you said they didn't matter so I didn't see the point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/18 07:40 AM |
| 0 | How can we narrow the intragender communication gap?These anti-men attitudes lead to lower marriage rates, MGTOW and greater social instability. What attitudes? How have/will those attitudes demonstrably lead to greater social instability? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/18 07:10 AM |
| 1 | "Familiarity Breeds Contempt", why women can't seem to make up their minds.Except it’s not natural for familial relationships to end as people get older. Sure they do. Parents disown children, children divorce their parents, etc. The quality of the relationship is more important than the type. Toxic relationships should end, regardless of who it's with. I am saying your mindset makes it so. The fact that women ended their marriages en masse as soon as they had the choice proves it was because they didn't have one before. They all didn't just miraculously decide to stop… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/18 07:07 AM |
| 1 | How will you raise your children with redpill theory in mind?I'll let them know societal narratives all have a purpose, and it's not necessarily supposed to be happiness. It's not even guaranteed to be within our self-interest. But no matter what, if it's a shit deal and you're able, walk away. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/18 06:37 AM |
| 0 | How come when people talk about "nice guys" they almost always actually mean sociopaths? Doesn't that sort of make the term meaningless?It delves into the philosophical foundations of personhood and free will. Those we consider people we treat as though have agency. We ask for what we want and fully accept whatever answer. It gets lumped in with sociopathy because they lack the ability to see others as anything other than objects to be used. "Nice guys" won't ask for what they want, de facto refusing an unfavorable answer. His presence in her life is his deliberate attempt to manipulate her into trusting him, an untrustworthy ac… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/18 06:13 AM |
| 1 | "Familiarity Breeds Contempt", why women can't seem to make up their minds.My point is that it's as natural for relationships to end as it is for people to change as they get older. I am not thinking of historical marriages. I am referring to the behaviors I model my marriage after which is not financially based. The only reason you feel anything is wrong about marriage today is because you have a historical model to compare it to. A historical model that conveniently leaves out context that changes the argument completely. Marriage rates went down when women didn't ne… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/18 05:45 AM |
| 1 | Q4Women: What do you think of alpha-earner women who ditch their stay-at-home-dad husbands?I'm sorry, when did breaking up with someone become immoral? That's dumb. Yes. I think it's better to break up than stay together for the kids. That doesn't do anything for them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/18 05:14 AM |
| 4 | Q4W: How do you feel about TRP reducing women down to math problems?If women are vending machines, the majority are out of men's price range. So I view it as men with no money getting frustrated that offering nothing of value isn't working for them. It's a combination of funny and frustrating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/18 05:09 AM |
| 1 | "Familiarity Breeds Contempt", why women can't seem to make up their minds.I never said it was impossible. Personally, I think the majority of marriages you're thinking of were a product of the economy of the times. And it's only rare now because the restraints of that economy are gone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/18 04:50 AM |
| 1 | "Familiarity Breeds Contempt", why women can't seem to make up their minds.that is just the default, but if that's all you got then good luck on your own in life because it can be a lot better in bad times when you got someone watching your back and a lot more fun in good times. You're not getting it. This all comes from that same old narrative. Relationships don't elevate one's happiness to levels unattainable otherwise. Being secure means understanding that you already have what you need to attain that happiness. Sounds new-agey, but what it means is that you can't g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/18 04:46 AM |
| 1 | "Familiarity Breeds Contempt", why women can't seem to make up their minds.If the people in the relationship find themselves incompatible it's not so bad they break up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/18 04:31 AM |
| 1 | How can we narrow the intragender communication gap?Do you mean, A) What have been the demonstrable effects of individual feminist women attacking men? B) What have been the demonstrable effects of feminists as a coordinated unit attacking men? What attacks have been done and what their demonstrable effect has been. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/18 04:28 AM |
| 1 | How can we narrow the intragender communication gap?They have yet to explain anything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/18 04:26 AM |
| 4 | How can we narrow the intragender communication gap?Before we can have that conversation we at least have to agree what's happening is a problem. I don't think women do so men will have to explain why first. What are the perceived consequences of marriage rates going down? What have been the demonstrable effects of feminist women's attacks on men? Because it's odd when someone tries out of nowhere to help you with a problem you didn't even know you had until they told you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/18 05:30 PM |
| 1 | "Familiarity Breeds Contempt", why women can't seem to make up their minds.I fail to see why that's a bad thing. If the fewer marriages we do have are between people choosing to be together for no other reason than each other's company, that's a good thing. Shouldn't we be striving for quality over quantity? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/18 05:22 PM |
| 1 | "Familiarity Breeds Contempt", why women can't seem to make up their minds.It's not always that black and white. Relationships should end sometimes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/18 05:19 PM |
| 1 | "Familiarity Breeds Contempt", why women can't seem to make up their minds.Yeah, but men are more likely to lie at the start of relationships. Finding out you've been lied to, now that's a good reason to complain. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/18 03:57 PM |
| 1 | "Familiarity Breeds Contempt", why women can't seem to make up their minds.Quite a leap. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/18 03:55 PM |
| 2 | "Familiarity Breeds Contempt", why women can't seem to make up their minds.I laugh because of that same old pervasive idea that a partner is supposed to complete you. You need to feel secure with yourself before you can have a healthy relationship. I've seen so many marriages implode because this isn't stated enough. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/18 03:54 PM |
| 2 | "Familiarity Breeds Contempt", why women can't seem to make up their minds.I'm best case scenario when it comes to ex-wives. You'll probably find out yourself someday what I mean. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/18 03:50 PM |
| 2 | "Familiarity Breeds Contempt", why women can't seem to make up their minds.Marriage is not what the media portrays it. Damn right. Frankly, I don't know what marriage means anymore because the definition has dramatically changed from one of permanency, to aspired permanency, to temporary, and to eventually gone I suppose. I'm not sure what it was supposed to mean, but now, it's optional. People will still fall in love and have kids. Hopefully they won't be so fixated on the wedding it clouds their judgment of whether the relationship itself is all that healthy. That ha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/18 03:47 PM |
| 0 | "Familiarity Breeds Contempt", why women can't seem to make up their minds.Marriage is just like any relationship you've ever had. There's nothing magical about it. That was the first thing I learned the day after my wedding, nothing changed, except my last name. The only time it was relevant was when i was filling out paperwork. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/18 03:40 PM |
| 7 | Why do women rarely date down compared to men? And is it shallow?Why? What's wrong with passing up the subpar when you don't have to? Boyfriends aren't clearance items, settling for less isn't going to benefit me at all. On the contrary. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/18 07:55 AM |
| 11 | Q4All: Is it true that women can't tell when they're flirting? Naivety or plausible deniability? Ignorance or malice?Men can't tell, they assume they have a chance with every woman. Then, they blame them so they don't have to consider that they're actually not worth the time of day. And thus, the cycle of men inexplicably hating women so much continues. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/18 07:51 AM |
| 2 | "Familiarity Breeds Contempt", why women can't seem to make up their minds.I'm actually divorced. That's how I know it's too much to ask. That's not going to work for everybody. It definitely would not have saved my marriage, for sure. Shit happens. One solution isn't the key to fixing every single one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/18 07:45 AM |
| -2 | "Familiarity Breeds Contempt", why women can't seem to make up their minds.That's asking too much, from anyone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/18 07:19 AM |
| 0 | "Familiarity Breeds Contempt", why women can't seem to make up their minds.And just being around me is going to help them become exponentially more interesting over time? LOL. But you're probably right all those old couples hate each other deep down even when they go everywhere together holding hands It happens, but it's rare. We don't expect friendships to last a lifetime. Why wouldn't we apply the same reasoning to romantic relationships? Or should we be judging people more harshly for every friendship they can't sustain for life? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/18 07:07 AM |
| 1 | "Familiarity Breeds Contempt", why women can't seem to make up their minds.Because women don't hold onto the notion that a relationship is supposed to be for life they're less willing to adapt themselves to better suit how their spouses change. Is that right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/18 06:59 AM |
| 0 | "Familiarity Breeds Contempt", why women can't seem to make up their minds.I only do so because I mostly see men characterizing women as being incapable of love for breaking up with men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/18 06:57 AM |
| 1 | "Familiarity Breeds Contempt", why women can't seem to make up their minds.Women tend not to believe in guarantees, making her likely to be ok with a relationship ending? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/18 06:54 AM |
| 1 | "Familiarity Breeds Contempt", why women can't seem to make up their minds.So because relationships probably won't last the rest of their lives they're going red pill? Or that TRP is a way to make a relationship last? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/18 06:44 AM |
| 0 | Q4Men: What Can Women Do For Men?Its not about the quantity of expectations for men, but the ones we have are really important for us. Men are asking too much for this day and time. They need to keep in mind that women can leave them, the only thing keeping women of the past behaving the way they want. And still, men should only be willing to ask for what they're willing to give. Imo most women wont be satisfied with equality. Women don't need anything from men, not even commitment. If she's not asking for anything, entertainin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/18 03:11 AM |
| 0 | Q4Men: What Can Women Do For Men?But when I say those expectations have to be proportionate men might take that the wrong way. Because she has 50 expectations and you have 3, you don't then get to make up 47 expectations. It should mean that if one of your expectations is for her to look good for you, you have to look good for her too. You get to do what you want on the weekends with your friends, so does she. Anything you wouldn't want her doing you don't expect, and vice versa. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/18 06:56 PM |
| 0 | Q4Men: What Can Women Do For Men?So the solution is for men to start expecting what's in proportion to what women expect. Or for women to lower their expectations to the same level as men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/18 02:32 PM |
| 1 | Women who play hard to get in hopes of attracting a potential mate. Why? Why they do this??She's just not that into him. There's nothing lost if she doesn't get laid that night. She can take or leave him, his attention, sex with him, all the things. She's not playing hard to get, you're not interesting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/18 02:24 PM |
| 1 | Is there a place where there are no or less bitter people?Those are the guys on here that like to regurgitate the same crap no matter how many times they're legit proven wrong. They're not arguing in good faith, the pill has convinced them any information not coming from them is tainted or whatever. They're just acting like the good little lemmings they are, it's not their fault. If you want a place where the people are somewhat open to having their minds changed, this isn't it. Or at least, you'd have to convince them women aren't taking over the worl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/18 02:18 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Feminism is unsuited to fight "Toxic Masculinity"I fail to see how this is a problem. This is the intended purpose. Turn up the heat, see which ones can handle it, discard the rest. That is natural selection. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/18 01:58 PM |
| 1 | How does one accept responsibility without becoming a doormat?How does one point out other's not pulling their weight and come off as a complainer? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/18 01:52 PM |
| 1 | How does one accept responsibility without becoming a doormat?Ok guy, you've missed the point completely. Being told never to complain when others screw up, that you just want someone else to do it so you don't have to, is bullshit. You end up getting walked all over. This is all to point out how when men say those things to women they do so with intent to take without having to give back. A horrible thing to do, but even more egregious that they're barely hiding it, making the mere attempt an insult to women's intelligence as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/18 01:50 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: Should there be stricter and more gender neutral dresscodes in the workplace?Come on guy, there's nothing a woman can wear that will make at least one man not want to fuck her. Nothing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/18 07:33 AM |
| 1 | How would BP respond to these images of CDC divorce data?Response? I'd rather women be able to choose a path that would make them less happy than forcing them to take the path that would make them more happy by comparison. Only because I'd know it was orchestrated by a force that stands to benefit from women having fewer options. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/18 07:31 AM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: Why is American/Canadian culture so cold?That has a lot to do with our beginnings. Whites persecuted any others in brutal ways. Now their descendants are surrounded by the descendants of the people they otherwise would own today. Since the descendants of the conquerors are still in power there's a lot of tension between them and everyone else. And by everyone, I also mean countries we've invaded for resources. Or have supplanted our own culture by flooding societies with addictive substances. Or demean others by constantly championing … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/18 07:20 AM |
| 1 | How does one accept responsibility without becoming a doormat?That's how it feels to be told not to complain. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/18 06:59 AM |
| 1 | How does one accept responsibility without becoming a doormat?Let's assume it really is your problem. If that person drops the ball your efforts leading up to that will have been for nothing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/18 09:32 PM |
| 1 | How does one accept responsibility without becoming a doormat?why wouldn't you question tasks assigned to you? You'll be punished for whining and being a tattletale. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/18 09:29 PM |
| 1 | How does one accept responsibility without becoming a doormat?"is it also true that in the end you must say that nothing is anyone else's 'fault' at all This is considered a philosophical dilemma because the answer is no. No one is deserving of either praise nor blame because our existence and the circumstances we were born into have all been out of our control. It's not necessary to hold two necessary ideals, we consciously choose to praise and punish people knowing full well no one deserves either. But praise reinforces favorable behaviors while blame de… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/18 09:27 PM |
| 2 | How does one accept responsibility without becoming a doormat?I would guess that you wouldn't hold anyone else by such a strict standard.. right? No. That's asking far too much. It's just perspective, right? Exactly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/18 05:33 PM |
| 2 | How does one accept responsibility without becoming a doormat?Is it literally impossible to give with no intention of receiving anything in return.. like maybe you don't even get to feel good about it? Not in my experience. I definitely give with intent of some kind of reward in mind, even if it's just the joy of having something to do that day. There's nothing wrong with that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/18 04:50 PM |
| 1 | How does one accept responsibility without becoming a doormat?There's your effort, and there's your using other people effort, and then there's your object agreement with others, to exchange your uses of each other, for the benefit of each other's blood. I'm not talking about intent. If a collaborative effort goes into something you're guaranteed to benefit from it doesn't matter what the intent of the individual contributors are. All you need to know is that you can't make as much without them, and when they don't do their job your share gets smaller. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/18 09:06 AM |
| 1 | How does one accept responsibility without becoming a doormat?Because if you take responsibility you're not going to seek out who's responsibility it actually is, you're just going to do it without questioning whether you should. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/18 08:59 AM |
| 3 | CMV: Young lady and UMC/ Rich older man relationships are the purest form of relationships in today’s age.An absent father is an absent father. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/18 08:20 AM |
| 1 | How does one accept responsibility without becoming a doormat?When someone chooses not doesn't do their job they should get fired for it, right? Imagine your boss makes you do their job but doesn't fire them. Now you're doing twice the work for half the pay, which he's also getting paid to do nothing. I'm making the argument that without accountability, if you're just supposed to just do what others won't without question, one can't help but be forced to subsidize the lazy at the expense of the competent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/18 06:39 AM |
| 4 | How does one accept responsibility without becoming a doormat?Use your power wisely, and don't let other people convince you that you have an obligation to them. That's just control, and namely you giving others control. I can understand this belief. If you're not doing something for yourself it must be for someone else. But can that work when taking part in a collaborative effort? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/18 06:21 AM |
| 5 | CMV: Young lady and UMC/ Rich older man relationships are the purest form of relationships in today’s age.Because surely any man would trade a relationship with their father for money. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/18 05:45 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Young lady and UMC/ Rich older man relationships are the purest form of relationships in today’s age.What happens when those older rich men pass away? Are you making the case that single mothers are acceptable as long as the children's father is dead? Is watching their father die better than watching him divorce their mother? At least divorce wouldn't be as assured as their father dying of old age. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/18 04:23 AM |
| 2 | The negative effect of sleeping with low value menThere was a guy I went home with that I realized later had narcissistic tendencies. They tend to be clingy so I was concerned about that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/18 04:05 AM |
| 2 | I've had a terrible experience most of my life with women. I feel as if I'm losing hope of a dream.Everybody could do with some counseling. Life is hard. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/18 03:53 AM |
| 12 | I've had a terrible experience most of my life with women. I feel as if I'm losing hope of a dream.What you interpret as disrespect is the adult interpretation of wanting your mom (not an insult, how our parents interacted with us as children goes into how a lot of our personality forms). Unfortunately, no woman can fulfill that role even they want to, not even if your own actual mother tried to comfort you now. What happens in your formative years, 1-5, stays with you. It can be reprogrammed though, with therapy and hard work. It won't go away otherwise. Right now, you're destined to attract… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/18 06:26 PM |
| 3 | #MeToo and the Taboo Topic of NatureIs claiming biologically inclined psychological differences between men and women controversial? It's both helpful and unhelpful at the same time. Yes, it's good to know things about half of the population that make it easier to relate. BUT. My takeaway is that having hope for certain things concerning men is pointless. Im a slightly less patient with men now than before I read that article. But for good reason, right? Yes, I'm more vexed than helped by every quality listed every single day. But… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/18 06:00 PM |
| 1 | Men are responsible for their inability to resist appealing to women.This sums up my entire post. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/18 12:49 AM |
| 2 | Men are responsible for their inability to resist appealing to women.Changing themselves, gathering resources to make themselves seem more impressive, excusing behavior against their own self-interests, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/18 07:28 PM |
| 3 | Sex isn’t a marital dutyNo, that's unacceptable too. When women do bad things it's also bad. But when women do what's in her best interests and end the relationship while men accept whatever gets his lady to give him approval, she's labeled as evil, but we forget how easily manipulated by women he allows himself to be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/18 07:49 AM |
| 1 | Fetish, objectification or preference?I agree completely. It's impossible to love an object, just it's usefulness. Likewise, a relationship with someone that refuses to acknowledge your humanity can't be reciprocal. One is expected to be ever available for use and have an eager willingness to prioritize the other's needs instead of their own. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/18 05:26 AM |
| 2 | Discussion: What do women have to gain by lying about what turns us on?Women can't take anything at face value. "Happily ever after", where one event or person means perpetual happiness afterwards, doesn't happen in real life. Nothing and no one is ever 100% perfect and that becomes clearer the more one interacts with it. Knowing that means being aware that while one can have standards, but people's individuality inevitably make those standards meaningless. A great frustration for men striving to assign order to that kind of chaos. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/18 04:15 AM |
| 4 | Sex isn’t a marital dutyNo, there's no acceptable scenario for sex when one doesn't want to, no exceptions. No mediums. No means no. Further, one that's ok with sex when the other isn't is disturbing as fuck. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/18 06:16 PM |
| 1 | What's with the problem with complaining?A good alternative to complaining is shutting up. Men just can't have that attitude these days. Because the first thing I thought of was "Or I can just get rid of you. If you're so unhappy with the sound of my voice you might like the sound of the sidewalk a lot better." I can do that as many times as I want. Because dread only works if one is valuable, and no man will ever be as valuable in the SMP as a woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/18 03:49 PM |
| 1 | What's with the problem with complaining?If men are recognized for being the best, they are recognized by the women buying their products, looking at their art, eating their food, listening to their music. There's always a better cook, a better doctor, a better artist. But if the only metric by which we measure what's best is the amount of money it's worth quality is going to suffer when considering things like rarity and notoriety. An Atari new-in-box is not a better console than a PS4, yet it's worth more. Any one of the Kardashians … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/18 06:10 AM |
| 1 | What's with the problem with complaining?This is why men are the innovators of our world, this is why men start businesses more often than women, why they make more money than women, why they excel more than women at every craft from music, to cooking and art. Are they the best at what they do or are they just recognized for doing it? Big difference. You said that complaining doesn't always have intent. Now you are saying that complaining always has the intent of getting others to "weigh in". "Giving the opportunity for others to weigh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/18 04:34 AM |
| 0 | Men dropping out of societyI don't see this being as big a problem as we think. Men are going to be finding soon enough they'll have to work for their creature comforts. Whether or not they'll do it for the sake of a relationship won't matter. If they want to do the bare minimum jobs there will be plenty while women, immigrants, and automation can fill in whatever professions need them. I think men today will find their dominance was neither necessary nor missed. That would be worse for them than any decline. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/18 04:24 AM |
| 0 | Why do we automatically assume lying or truth in cases of sexual assualt?The difference is the ability to empathize with the victim. We can easily picture ourselves enduring the hardships of those we relate to. When we can't relate we have no choice but to imagine the person it's happening to, and thus, the act itself. So when we hear of the act taking place, even though we cognitively know it's possible, we can't reconcile the cognitive dissonance of how a real person can experience an imaginary act, and so assume they must be lying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/18 04:02 AM |
| 1 | What's with the problem with complaining?Complaining is not analysis. Complaining is just finding a problem and not doing anything about it other than telling someone else. I was on a medication that made me feel the same way about women, that they just sat around talking about their problems instead of fixing them. When I got off the medication, I realized they were attempting to solve their problems through other's learned experiences. Women don't feel the shame men do when it comes to asking for help. So when they have a problem, sa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/18 03:42 AM |
| 1 | Are sex differences in preferences for physical attractiveness and good earning capacity in potential mates smaller in countries with greater gender equality? This study finds they are not.Sex is not zero sum. The male/female dynamic definitely is. Males spread their genetics to as many females as possible while females only choose the fittest among them. We're directly opposed. Our current social structure allows women the ability to support themselves, giving them the ability to choose the fittest men at their discretion. Some men see this as an intentional attack. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/18 03:24 AM |
| 2 | Q4M: What does "Submissive" mean to you?It's hard to really trust someone, isn't it? You literally can't imagine a guy actually being good to a girl, considering her needs and opinions, sometimes going along with her, sometimes not, and her being okay with it when he doesn't. This is a shit deal. This is no different than how a parent would treat a child. How anyone can sell this idea to someone without them feeling you're insulting their intelligence is beyond me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/18 03:34 PM |
| 1 | Q4RP: What convinces you the gynocentric Western civilization is superior to all other cultural attitudes in terms of gender?In a gynocentric society a large portion of men do lose access to women, money, and dignity (that last on is subjective). But what exactly is a gynocentric society? It's apparently not Western society. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/18 06:50 AM |
| 1 | What's with the problem with complaining?Even if they did, there's nothing lost by granting acknowledgement is there? More is lost not giving it, as we've seen throughout history. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/18 06:29 AM |
| 1 | Q4RP: What convinces you the gynocentric Western civilization is superior to all other cultural attitudes in terms of gender?Maybe I should clarify, Western gynocentric civilization is clearly superior to all others for women because it is the one they have the most control over (and pretty much the only one that caters to them over men). I'm not convinced we can compare anything when we've never seen an industrialized matriarchal society. Are we defining gynocentric as anything besides patriarchy? Because what we have now isn't even egalitarian, though it's moving in that direction. I'm talking about men, do you stil… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/18 06:25 AM |
| 3 | What's with the problem with complaining?Which is really just a plea for acknowledgement. It seems like it's when groups start asking to be recognized that they start receiving hate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/18 06:17 AM |
| 1 | What's with the problem with complaining?Possible. But that's another rabbit hole for another day. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/18 06:14 AM |
| 0 | What's with the problem with complaining?What would you consider a stupid complaint? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/18 06:05 AM |
| 1 | Why do the men on this sub think women are bothered by them and their 'preference?'Men seem to think anything that isn't overt praise is complaining. Women aren't trying to deconstruct men's preferences to better understand them, they want to signal to men that they hate them so they'll be forced to change. You can kind of see what they're saying, harmful behavior they might like now isn't harmful until someone proves it is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/18 05:05 AM |
| 4 | Q4M: What does "Submissive" mean to you?While a woman who has a man under her power is a million times more likely to never fuck him and be a bitch. What you're describing as being a bitch is just having agency. Trusting your man means not questioning him no matter what he does. There's no way for her to have a voice in that scenario, anything she says that's not praise will be seen as a lack of trust on her part. One can make the claim that her man will take care of her but if he doesn't she's still supposed to assume he is. "Just be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/18 04:42 AM |
| 1 | The “Woke” Men Who Still Want HousewivesMy takeaway is that while women have entered the workplace, men's preference towards women being homemakers rather than workers makes it harder for men to work with women both at work and at home. Men having the mindset that women can always be homemakers, or would rather they were, won't want them to have opportunities for advancement. They'll be less likely to work cooperatively with women. They'll hold women back on purpose. The part about millennials falling into their old gender roles, ever… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/18 03:34 AM |
| 8 | CMV: I don't understand how anyone can take relationship advice from /r/TheRedPill seriouslyHowever, this can all be changed with therapy. So if men are behaving this way it's their own fault. It changes the moment they say it does. Until then, they're a waste of a relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/18 04:09 PM |
| 12 | Would you date and marry a woman who you slept with on the first night you met?It didn't work out for my ex-husband. But I think that has more to do with getting married at 19 than anything else. It should be a crime to not tell young couples that marriage is hard, it's just as bad as giving alcohol to minors. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/18 07:20 AM |
| 2 | A4ALL: Why aren't single dads bashed as hard as single moms?Can confirm, not interested in guys with kids. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/18 06:40 AM |
| 3 | the drunken musings of azngirl: divorce is a good thing, happy couples don’t divorceHey, I'm drunk too! That cinnamon butter on the rolls... oh man. I wish I was eating some right now... I haven't been in forever. But yeah, i've been great since my divorce. Don't regret that shit at all. Nice guy, shit husband. That's what you get for not considering that the dumbass decisions you make because you're fucked up won't apply to relationships. Cut to me trying to fight every guy I'd rather fuck because of some unresolved shit with my dad from when I was like four. Get therapy befor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/18 06:18 AM |
| 3 | Why are girls so off about height? Does this confirm that most women do only look at tall men?There was no indication she was talking about his height heaving an effect on his ability to get laid. I think you're jumping to conclusions. She was probably talking about how being above average in height can make it harder to buy clothes, have leg room in cars or planes, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/18 12:43 AM |
| 3 | CMV: Young men’s “nice guy” mindset is caused by the school system, not feminism.It still astounds me how men are just now figuring this out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/18 07:54 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Young men’s “nice guy” mindset is caused by the school system, not feminism.Parents told children they could grow up to be anything they wanted. They could go to any college, have any job, marry anyone, buy any house, have as many children and retire in any state they wanted. Of course, they left out your choices were unlimited within that specific societal narrative. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/18 07:38 AM |
| 1 | Q4M . What makes a woman intimidating?Do what you want anyway and just don't care what people think. Take your fucking lumps. Eventually people will get used to it. If you're waiting for the day you're above criticism to start living your life the way you want, you're never going to accomplish anything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/18 06:28 AM |
| 7 | CMV: Young men’s “nice guy” mindset is caused by the school system, not feminism.Men can't act like men without money. They need a place to keep their weights, their protein powders, their beard oils, their tight flannel shirts, their Joe Rogan shrines, their copies of Scarface, etc. That's all going to require a job, and if that job requires doing unmanly things they're going to have to do it or end up with nothing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/18 04:10 AM |
| 3 | Are sex differences in preferences for physical attractiveness and good earning capacity in potential mates smaller in countries with greater gender equality? This study finds they are not.What feminists tell women tend to make it harder for men to have sex, but not intentionally. Of course everything they say will seem like an attack. We're directly opposed. It's a zero sum game. Helping ourselves has to mean hurting you. Except men don't want to look bad, so they're trying to shame women into hurting themselves for the sake of equality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/18 12:31 AM |
| 1 | Tales of /r/relationships: Hypergamy: OP is upset her husband accepted a lower paying jobThen she assumed she'd got her way but he did what he wanted anyway (Which was wrong). But at no stage either did she seem to offer alternatives that would satisfy at least some of his needs either. So she was wrong. Two hard heads who want things their way. Objectively, he was wrong. There was a reasonable option and a reckless option. Regardless of who suggested it or the outcome, the reasonable option is always right. It's not her responsibility to make her husband listen to reason, it's his … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/18 08:51 PM |
| 1 | Tales of /r/relationships: Hypergamy: OP is upset her husband accepted a lower paying jobI'd question her having his best interests at heart. I think the disconnect here is she cares about "things" and he doesn't. No no, she cares about the future and he doesn't. Let's say something happens to her that makes it so she can't work, he's not going to be able to support them. Let's say they get a divorce, he'll be so much worse off than before. And that's just the if's, his employment history is actually fucked. My compromise if it were me in her situation might have been - In a comprom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/18 03:27 PM |
| 2 | Tales of /r/relationships: Hypergamy: OP is upset her husband accepted a lower paying jobNegative consequences like what though? His ability to get even close to the income he had beforehand. If the startup doesn't take off, and the odds are good that it won't, it'll have been for nothing. If having someone to meet the payments on a new car is more important than your partners happiness something has gone wrong somewhere in that relationship. If being unhappy at your job is more important than everything you've built up around your career, and sound logic from your wife, someone tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/18 07:00 AM |
| 3 | Tales of /r/relationships: Hypergamy: OP is upset her husband accepted a lower paying jobWouldn't even surprise me if she just made the decision and took him saying nothing as him agreeing to it. Her being right, and she is, isn't the same thing as her making the decision for him. That's him being defiant for defiance sake. He's still wrong, but now he's also demonstrated he has the rationality of a three-year old. She feels she can't trust him. He feels she only cares about his happiness as long as he keeps a high pay check. Adults also have to make hard decisions like prioritizing… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/18 04:51 AM |
| 3 | Well?Some protected classes, like gender and age, only apply to employment. That's why lady's night and senior specials are legal. Race applies across the board. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/18 03:53 AM |
| 1 | Well?The price is determined by an algorithm used to calculate risk. The higher the risk, the higher the price. Statistically, men tend to drive faster than women, making them more of a risk. Except if he's married or has children as having someone to live for makes a person more careful. In that scenario he'd be paying less than a single woman with no children. Red/orange cars also mean higher prices as they make people aggressive and tend to get hit more often. People who drive sports cars also aut… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/18 03:38 AM |
| 4 | Tales of /r/relationships: Hypergamy: OP is upset her husband accepted a lower paying jobThe husband is looking at this as an opportunity to leave a job he hates. All he cares about is getting out of there and sees this as a better option than just quitting altogether. He's frustrated that his wife can't understand how miserable his job makes him. The wife can perhaps understand how much her husband hated his job. Regardless, the economy the way it is isn't a good time for startups. There were more options available than quit right away. There was time to find another job with the s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/18 03:22 AM |
| 1 | How much attention would you want from your wife?I get what you're saying. I don't just skim the surface when thinking about things. I read into everything, and when you do that you can't help but find things that would've made everything easier had they been missed. I don't like easy, it's inefficient in the long run. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/18 11:24 PM |
| 1 | Radical feminism and traditionalism: a snake biting its own tail.Feminism's main message is that women should be able to pursue whatever they want in life. If there's any backlash against the homemaker role it's because it's a bad choice. It's a terrible choice for anyone to make. Giving away one's ability to control their own lives? That's obviously the worst choice. It's not that we don't like traditionalism per se, we don't like seeing people make stupid mistakes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/18 09:30 PM |
| 2 | How much attention would you want from your wife?Or is getting married just a status tickbox for you. It was when I was stupid enough to believe marriage was supposed to bring you happiness. Turns out being married is hard. More people should be made aware of this brilliant discovery. Then you can spend your life alone but pretend to have the status. I've been married. If you're expecting a status boost you're setting yourself up for disappointment. Having to spend time with someone in a relationship, gosh how oppressive. Allocating time toget… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/18 09:13 PM |
| 0 | How much attention would you want from your wife?People don't work that way. No one can commit to that without having to ignore their own self-interests. To not consider that is not considering her personhood. Or in other words, thinking of her as an object. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/18 08:58 PM |
| 2 | How much attention would you want from your wife?Gotcha. So men just want women to be available whenever they want them. Maybe it's just me, but the concept is infuriating. He's supposed to have moved past this kind of behavior shortly after early childhood. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/18 02:54 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The reason women yell and complain so much is because it works for themOr is the incentive to get them to shut up and stop nagging so you can have some peace and quiet? TIL businesses don't want my money, they want me to shut up. The problem with women is that they expect things essentially for free, without putting in any work or anything like that. It's not free, she worked for the money she uses to pay for services. I don't think we can understand one another, not as long as you can't grasp that women make their own money these days. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/18 02:47 PM |
| 2 | How much attention would you want from your wife?To what end? If you want to go to the zoo, should she take the day off? If she were single, that kind of behavior would be rightfully seen as irresponsible. Are you saying self-destructive behavior is a bad thing, unless she's self-destructing in ways that favor her SO? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/18 06:55 AM |
| 2 | Q4W: If you were a man, what would be your dating strategy? How would you present yourself?Then work day in, day out, and hope anyone wants to hear about that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/18 06:48 AM |
| 1 | The DeclineI'm afraid I don't follow Life would all be well and good if we could just put anything in the constitution. We could make every Tuesday free ice cream day. But it doesn't work that way. There needs to be a clear defined demonstrable reason that needs to be presented before a court. Anything less will be thrown out. They're just not working, not like mounting a coup. I'm saying that this fact in itself necessarily leads to social instability But when it's done with intent to coerce government in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/18 06:45 AM |
| 4 | Q4W: If you were a man, what would be your dating strategy? How would you present yourself?I'd meet a bunch of people, go a bunch of places, consume a diverse variety of media, and then present myself as a genuinely well-rounded individual. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/18 03:43 AM |
| 1 | The DeclineBut there's also no entitlement to the current set of laws and norms which lead to these circumstances (they were changed once, and by God they can be changed again). Legal justification for a spouse? Who said anything about threats? A group working to change the system of governance by force instead of the legal process is a hostile entity to that system. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/18 03:33 AM |
| 1 | The DeclineAgain, the status quo is good for the business sector. No matter how bad you say things will get, why assume compliance? The past has shown what's these men would need for that, least of all a legal case that can win, and there's no entitlement to a spouse anywhere in the constitution. That makes men like this akin to the Klan. An enemy opposed to the law of the land agreed on by the people, and thus the people themselves. All threats will be accurately labeled as acts of terrorism and treated a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/18 07:54 PM |
| 2 | The DeclineMen are going on strike. Permanent strike. And yet productivity continues to go up. So do the trends towards an increasing number of service jobs and decreasing number of manufacturing jobs. This whole "men going on strike" idea won't work if there aren't any negative consequences. If there are any consequences the state governments will be inconvenienced, not the business sector. And governments, at the very least, can only incentivize the hiring of men. But the mass firing of all women? The bu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/18 06:10 PM |
| 2 | The DeclineThe decline is more a threat than a fairytale. "Reverse women's right not to be with us or we're going on strike!" The sort of thing one might do when they know they have no other way to achieve what they want through the legal framework. My rebuttal is that the solution to homelessness in the future will be the same as it is now. Temporary shelters aimed only at getting people back to work. There are too many alternatives to entertaining these guys. It'll be a while before what they want is con… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/18 04:15 PM |
| 1 | Is it really wrong for women to take finances/earning potential into account?It makes sense to avoid someone that's going to be more trouble than they're worth. Even if they can't add value they can at least not take any. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/18 02:42 AM |
| 1 | Why are so many men surprised when their girlfriend/wife has a sexual past?Women care about things like him having STIs and baggage, but as long as he was being monogamous she probably wouldn't have a problem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/18 02:32 AM |
| 1 | Why are so many men surprised when their girlfriend/wife has a sexual past?Wow. This is the healthiest thing i've ever read on this sub. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/18 07:03 PM |
| 4 | Why are so many men surprised when their girlfriend/wife has a sexual past?Let's step back from the ballpark. We do know that men and women have different sex drives. So far we've discussed women's Ncount, but have completely dismissed men's. Are men capable of having an Ncount? Why/why not? Can a man's Ncount be too high? Too low? What are the implications if Ncount is determined to mean different things depending on gender? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/18 04:47 PM |
| 8 | Why are so many men surprised when their girlfriend/wife has a sexual past?WHY? Without justification this is just self-serving noise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/18 04:15 PM |
| 1 | OP in /r/relationships thinks that his fiancee's sexual history of having orgies and sex in club toilets is shocking and can't imagine raising kids with her. Comments all shame him for these viewsNot necessarily. The research says differently. It matters more how parents get along, with each other and with their kids, than the number of parents. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/18 04:14 PM |
| -1 | OP in /r/relationships thinks that his fiancee's sexual history of having orgies and sex in club toilets is shocking and can't imagine raising kids with her. Comments all shame him for these viewsIt's always more complex than that. This article points out contradictory findings, such as that children do better with single mothers than a father and stepmother, challenging the nuclear family model as inherently superior. Further, it's stated that the ideal family for children is having a mother, father, and at least one grandparent in the house. And if single parent households are proven not to be harmful, N count becomes irrelevant to whether a woman will be a good mother. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/18 04:10 PM |
| 8 | Why are so many men surprised when their girlfriend/wife has a sexual past?But if a man does it he's king Chad thundercock. Funny how that works. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/18 03:23 PM |
| 1 | OP in /r/relationships thinks that his fiancee's sexual history of having orgies and sex in club toilets is shocking and can't imagine raising kids with her. Comments all shame him for these viewsAll valid questions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/18 04:27 AM |
| 3 | OP in /r/relationships thinks that his fiancee's sexual history of having orgies and sex in club toilets is shocking and can't imagine raising kids with her. Comments all shame him for these viewsIs there a correlation between the number of sex partners one has had and the ability to parent? Is it more related to the likelihood that the relationship won't last? Does one's ability to sustain a relationship correlate with the ability to parent? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/18 02:55 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Women don't want childrenIf you mean women would rather have one or two rather than four or five, that's a sign of the times. Before social security, children were a parent's only retirement plan. Better to have a bunch to ensure it's more comfortable. But now, children have no purpose. They're the economic equivalent of a dishwasher or a second car, a luxury item with zero return. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/18 06:00 AM |
| 1 | Rising male celibacy is the expected result of resource abundance and accessible education.Sure. But there's a carrying capacity Of course. We'll probably do what we do now, encourage them to get jobs. But remove half of the workforce on their behalf? Ha, no. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/18 05:03 AM |
| 1 | Rising male celibacy is the expected result of resource abundance and accessible education.Slavery? Replacement. With automation, foreign workers, AI, etc. Yep, that's the one. I don't think so. Let's be clear, it's inconceivable that the government will do anything that will disenfranchise women, pretty much what has to happen to make incels happy. Incels that won't work will end up homeless. Too many and there might be a state of emergency declared. Housing could be provided but would likely end up a ghetto. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/18 12:26 AM |
| 1 | CMV: The reason women yell and complain so much is because it works for themMen focus on learning how to do things, women focus on learning how to get other people to do things for them. Going to someone who knows more about how to fix your problem and offering something in exchange for their help isn't the same as just getting other people to do things for you. You're describing commerce itself, you know that right? The other side of the coin though is that women are simply better at it than men, probably because of years of practice and encouragement from society. Bet… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/18 12:08 AM |
| 1 | I never wanted to sacrifice my career for a relationship. Then I realized something had to change.The part where you say you don't think women can have it both ways. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/18 11:56 PM |
| 1 | I never wanted to sacrifice my career for a relationship. Then I realized something had to change.I think your take on this article leaves out a key component. Yes, women might not be able to work and have a family at the same time. But why does it have to be a family specifically that means more happiness for a woman as opposed to a career? Why is a family a better choice? Is it a better choice for men too? If not, the underlying belief is that it's all biological and women without kids should stop fooling themselves. If so, anyone can do things outside of their respective gender roles, mak… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/18 07:10 PM |
| 1 | What kind of changes will happen in society if financial abortion became legal?Some economists argue that crime rates are lower these days because of birth control/title ix. It erased the existence children that would've been fathered by the worst men women would've had no choice but to marry. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/18 06:41 PM |
| 5 | CMV: The reason women yell and complain so much is because it works for themThe difference is justification. Women justify their motives, men refuse. So if she has a good reason for what she's asking for, and explains why, others can make an informed decision as to whether they should comply. Refusing to give any justification leaves others to come to their own conclusions not necessarily based on the truth. It gives the impression that one is being given orders, especially enraging if it's not coming from an authority figure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/18 06:34 PM |
| 2 | Do women ever really love men?And the only way that happens is if women choose the traditional route and marry the first man that shows her the time of day. And be sure to have sex regularly or society will collapse. That's ridiculous. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/18 06:21 PM |
| 1 | Do women ever really love men?Right, because society will collapse when men collectively decide to be homeless rather than work and not be rewarded a woman for their trouble. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/18 03:25 PM |
| 6 | Do women ever really love men?Yeah, but most of our biological drives are. That's why we're driven to do them, they suck. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/18 07:14 AM |
| 1 | Q4RP: How would you respond to this characterization of The Red Pill?what problems would be caused by giving more mental help for pre-suicidal men, or resources to get homeless men a roof over their heads? We can't do anything about mental health issues without infringing on innocent people's civil rights. For example, should people with schizophrenia be allowed to drive? Maybe not. But people with schizophrenia have jobs, own property, have children, etc. Without having done anything wrong, taking away any privileges they have is discriminatory. Homelessness is … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/18 07:12 AM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: How much does "artifice" matter to you?Study it in secret and do the opposite of what it says. Hours of free entertainment watching him go crazy over it not working. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/18 06:05 AM |
| 5 | Do women ever really love men?Children need care. Men are capable of caring for themselves, and are therefore less of a priority. There's also the fact that children will grow to the point where they don't need care. But a man is never going to mature. What would I rather have, 24/7 for a maximum of 18 years or 24/7 for the rest of my life. Hmmm... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/18 05:59 AM |
| 1 | Q4RP: How would you respond to this characterization of The Red Pill?considering how even male suicide isn't considered a problem, much less male homelessness, male victims of rape and domestic abuse, and so on. We don't currently have good solutions for any of these problems. Not any that don't result in a myriad of other problems, anyway. They're all consistently present in every society in any given time period. You'd think we'd have been able to fix them by now. Or, maybe we have to accept that while unfavorable, they're very normal. Men's lives simply don't … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/18 04:44 AM |
| 1 | Q4RP: How would you respond to this characterization of The Red Pill?I think that in both cases you mean non-essential, which isn't the same as disposable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/18 05:55 PM |
| 1 | How Donald Trump to men secretly insecure about their manhood- The Washington Post.The problem is the things we needed masculinity for are going away. What we have left appeals to both or women specifically. Neither do much to ensure men appear masculine, feel masculine, etc. On the contrary. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/18 03:35 PM |
| 1 | How Donald Trump to men secretly insecure about their manhood- The Washington Post.Men don't feel comfortable outside of the classic male role so they're using politics to manufacture a similar dynamic within the current framework. When thinking about it that way what they're doing is obvious, and sad. Men want to be breadwinners, but women want to work. Make sex outside of marriage difficult, make the consequences unbearably harsh, shift the burden to women as much as possible. Easy. Make abortion illegal, now sex and men are a package deal. Abolish welfare/child support, now… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/18 03:22 PM |
| 1 | Q4RP: How would you respond to this characterization of The Red Pill?Disposable in what way? Systemic or social? Something can be done about systemic, social is out of your hands. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/18 02:31 PM |
| 1 | Q4RP: How would you respond to this characterization of The Red Pill?The problem is that when men cannot be walking wallets or meat shields... women have no use for them. So where's the middle ground here? Patriarchy lite? Real egalitarianism means not having a vast social underclass of women or men. Egalitarianism would mean there would be a social underclass of men and women. But there would still be a middle and upper class both consisting of men and women. That's about the same as we have now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/18 07:28 AM |
| 1 | Q4RP: How would you respond to this characterization of The Red Pill?The civilization we know is patriarchal. Women see achieving more the more we shift towards being an egalitarian society, no reason for that not to continue. More competition means less opportunities for men that would've been the default choice in certain positions. But that just means more actual achievers, which is good for everyone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/18 05:34 AM |
| 6 | Men - What's One Important Thing You Wished Women Knew About Male Gender and Sex Issues?Knowing what the other side would be dealing with, I know for sure I'd be getting a one word response sent only to make me feel better. That would be meaningless. She might as well have sent nothing. I've been the ugly duckling in a flock of swans. I understand what men go through. It's not fun being overlooked. Though, I never went out of my way to be someone I wasn't. That's counterproductive to being valued for who I am as a person, which is what i'd really want in a relationship. There was a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/18 05:08 AM |
| 1 | Q4RP: How would you respond to this characterization of The Red Pill?If civilization as we know it collapses, so be it. It's outdated. It's unable to produce enough to keep up with the demands it would need to fulfill to remain prosperous. We'll see it again when it can serve an intended purpose. Until then, to hell with it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/18 04:31 AM |
| 4 | Q4W: I have heard from women here that AWALT is not true, only that men go after the wrong type of women. What is the right type, and how is it different from an AWALT? How can the fabled NAWALT be recognized?Choosing consistently abusive partners is common among adult children of abuse. They don't feel comfortable unless they're in the same chaos they grew up in. The right type of woman for a man with unresolved issues is the one they find after they've dealt with those issues. Otherwise, they'll either keep being drawn to the wrong kinds of women or sabotage relationships with the right kinds. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/18 04:21 AM |
| 5 | Men - What's One Important Thing You Wished Women Knew About Male Gender and Sex Issues?The average woman is too busy being bombarded to be able to respond to them all, even IRL. It's impossible. It's all she would ever do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/18 04:09 AM |
| 1 | Q4RP: How would you respond to this characterization of The Red Pill?Even if they don't beat that civilization down, as they've done in the past, they will simply become deadweight...they are quietly choking your civilization to death with their laziness and unproductive lives. Now ask yourself how women fare when a civilization collapses. Beat that civilization down? Like a coup? And we're supposed to respond to threats of a coup by all voluntarily organizing to create the society they're threatening to replace with what's destroyed? A, "heads I win, tails you l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/18 04:00 AM |
| 3 | Women have the right to reject broke men and should be encouraged to do so.You probably wouldn't be into him making your life harder no matter how much guy shit he did. There would be a limit to how much bullshit you would put up with before he became more trouble than he was worth. And apparently, RP men would think you were incapable of love, regardless of his behavior, if you break up with him. Hell, they'll think you're incapable of love if you won't have sex with him every time he does something right. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/18 10:15 PM |
| 1 | Q4RP: How would you respond to this characterization of The Red Pill?Systemic, as in part of the public school system, and therefore compulsory. Unless we're talking about something like a private finishing school, though the fact that it would be optional would defeat the purpose. Shaming happens at a social level. Governments have no control over social attitudes. An example is how civil rights made black people equal in terms of the law, but that didn't stop people from being racist. The consequences for some people thinking you're a jerk is not the same as re… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/18 09:57 PM |
| 1 | Consenting to sex is not consenting to being a father!I'm sure men everywhere would gladly sign up to pay child support for two kids. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/18 05:18 PM |
| 2 | Consenting to sex is not consenting to being a father!2 guaranteed pregnancies out of 100 per year, compared to less than 1 out of 100 per year. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/18 04:53 PM |
| 1 | Consenting to sex is not consenting to being a father!Statistics don't work that way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/18 04:21 PM |
| 1 | Q4RP: How would you respond to this characterization of The Red Pill?Education is now coercion? Yes, because it would be systemic. And outright shaming men for not dating fat women is not coercion? No, because it's social. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/18 04:19 PM |
| 1 | Consenting to sex is not consenting to being a father!Are they as effective as birth control? An IUD? Not even close. So you're right, men's ability to have safe sex is only as good as his most effective birth control. Condoms are reported as being 98% effective, meaning 2 women out of 100 will get pregnant with condoms every year. Birth control is 99.9% effective, meaning less than one woman will get pregnant with it every year. Which amounts to men who use protection still being at least responsible for a minimum of two unwanted pregnancies per y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/18 04:17 PM |
| -1 | Consenting to sex is not consenting to being a father!Great for preventing STIs, very risky way to prevent pregnancy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/18 03:51 PM |
| -1 | Consenting to sex is not consenting to being a father!An effective way to prevent the spreading of STIs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/18 03:49 PM |
| 0 | Consenting to sex is not consenting to being a father!Yes. It. Is. Men don't have effective birth control. Every man knows this. As long as that's true, all men's sexual experiences have no choice but to considered acts of intentional recklessness by default. Women who have unprotected sex are liable for their half of the responsibility. But if she gets pregnant while on birth control that's an accident. The man however, is always acting irresponsibly every time he has sex. Through no fault of his own, but nonetheless, his actions are his responsib… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/18 03:17 PM |
| 0 | What does this subreddit think about "spreadsheet guy"?The narrative that sex in a marriage is akin to washing dishes or taking out the trash is completely foreign to women. A chore is something that has to be done, regardless of whether wants to, for the benefit of the household. When this applies to sex, it stands to reason that it also has to be done regardless of whether they want to. What's the name for sex against your will? Does anybody really think that all that can happen to a person emotionally won't just because they're married? What abou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/18 02:58 PM |
| 1 | Q4RP: How would you respond to this characterization of The Red Pill?No, education can fix hypergamy I get what you're saying. People holding out for the absolute best might lead to disappointment after it's too late to do anything about it. That's a sound argument in and of itself. But can you see how that can easily be used to coerce women specifically without seeming like it? It's common knowledge that RP men think the wall applies to women as they think men are at their highest value at about the same age. Men are reported as being unhappier when they're sing… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/18 06:15 AM |
| 1 | Why is the manosphere hellbent on thinking women are secretly miserable and going to hit this magical "wall" when they're like 40? Women are happier than ever before.I think the "happiness index" data leaves out a lot of context. Title IX passed in 1974 before wages started to stagnate. Of course women before then were happier, they and their families had enjoyed financial security for decades. It's doubtful that women would've been as happy had they lived in households with husbands who's wages stagnated. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/18 04:41 AM |
| 1 | Q4RP: How would you respond to this characterization of The Red Pill?He means a world where women have no choice at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/18 03:43 AM |
| 1 | Q4RP: How would you respond to this characterization of The Red Pill?We need a world in which hypergamy is stamped out, not adapted to. This proves OPs point. Hypergamy amounts to women being having a choice, so stamping it out must mean a rejection of women's equality with men. The dynamic RP men want to create gives them complete control over women in a world where women don't need to comply. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/18 03:39 AM |
| 2 | What should be done about reproductive coercion against men?Women aren't set on disenfranchising men. But if supporting ourselves amounts to men feeling as though they've been subjected to something on par with their plans for women, to hell with their problems. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/18 07:26 AM |
| 1 | What should be done about reproductive coercion against men?If men actually have a legitimate case they think they can win they should present it. So men don't have justification. They want a patriarchy. They want all power taken from women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/18 07:05 AM |
| 1 | What should be done about reproductive coercion against men?States have to propose an amendment after it's made it's way through each one of their respective courts. Here's an idea. If men actually have a legitimate case they think they can win they should present it. The shit you're talking about is what you do when you have no case and know the majority disagrees with you anyway. Why not just call it a coup when it clearly is? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/18 06:40 AM |
| 2 | What should be done about reproductive coercion against men?It is being funded. They are trying. They are failing. It took 20 years to create the first pill, and another 10 to make it universally available. You're right. That's what this is. Men are going to fight for and enact paper abortion using women's well tested whinewhinewhinemememe strategy. No, men are going to have to make an actual case like women did. Denying birth control to unmarried women is unconstitutional under the equal protection clause. Men can make the case that women having abortio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/18 06:18 AM |
| 2 | What should be done about reproductive coercion against men?Why should only women get to feel the abundant pleasure of consequence free condomless sex? They put the effort into funding the research themselves for oral contraceptives. Men haven't done that yet so they can't have risk-free sex. How can that be an equal society? Men have to put the work into their own self-interests like women did. Nothing more equal than that. The whole fucking point of living is condomless sex; tsk-tsking aside we all know it feels way, way better. Too. Fucking. Bad. No o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/18 04:44 AM |
| 2 | What is Love?Remember what sub this is. A lot of the arguments amount to traditional gender roles good, anything else bad. This allows them to leave out that they believe there's never a good reason for a wife to leave her husband. So no matter what he does it wasn't his fault, she left because she didn't "love" her husband. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/18 04:18 AM |
| 1 | Money, Looks and StatusThere is truth to your argument. I got the impression that adventures happened before the main characters got together, as in, marriage is how you know your adventures are over. If there's a wedding, it's never anything more than a couple of scenes at the end of the movie. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/18 04:00 AM |
| 2 | Could a relationship where the man has sex with other women ( with the woman's consent ) but is emotionally faithful to his partner be sustainable in the long term?Only if she has the same courtesy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/18 03:13 AM |
| 8 | Thanks, birth control day spawned a series of tweets by women espousing why they're thankful for birth control. These exact same reasons justify enabling men to terminate paternal rights and support obligations (also known as "male abortion" or "paper abortion") CMV.You're right. Men's tactic has always been to commit acts of violence until laws change in their favor, or at least to the detriment of those they don't like. You'd think that after so long of seeing women running circles around them they'd figure out that doesn't work. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/18 04:38 PM |
| 2 | Thanks, birth control day spawned a series of tweets by women espousing why they're thankful for birth control. These exact same reasons justify enabling men to terminate paternal rights and support obligations (also known as "male abortion" or "paper abortion") CMV.It is, but usually any unexpected children end up bearing the brunt of their parent's recklessness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/18 04:17 PM |
| 6 | Thanks, birth control day spawned a series of tweets by women espousing why they're thankful for birth control. These exact same reasons justify enabling men to terminate paternal rights and support obligations (also known as "male abortion" or "paper abortion") CMV.No, she's still responsible for any STIs she might get. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/18 04:13 PM |
| 0 | Thanks, birth control day spawned a series of tweets by women espousing why they're thankful for birth control. These exact same reasons justify enabling men to terminate paternal rights and support obligations (also known as "male abortion" or "paper abortion") CMV.She's ensured she's protected against unwanted pregnancy, which is one risk of sex. It's the risk we're talking about. Not all unprotected sex is reckless. Yes it is. One not ensuring that they are protected is being reckless. A woman getting pregnant while on birth control is never reckless, it was an accident. Accidents happen. A man who knows he has no protection and has sex anyway is being reckless. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/18 02:14 PM |
| 12 | Thanks, birth control day spawned a series of tweets by women espousing why they're thankful for birth control. These exact same reasons justify enabling men to terminate paternal rights and support obligations (also known as "male abortion" or "paper abortion") CMV.Men seem to think equality is one group achieving something having to be equally distributed to everyone. No, equality is being free to create your own achievements, but you still have to do it yourself, just like the achievers did. This should be advertising to men of all of the benefits they could be having if they had their own birth control that was as effective as women's. This should be a wakeup call for men to start demanding it, like women did. Men should start funding it en masse, like … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/18 02:06 PM |
| 16 | Thanks, birth control day spawned a series of tweets by women espousing why they're thankful for birth control. These exact same reasons justify enabling men to terminate paternal rights and support obligations (also known as "male abortion" or "paper abortion") CMV.No, the man is acting recklessly. He's having unprotected sex. The woman isn't, she's already ensured she's protected herself. Until men have birth control methods as secure as women do, and as long as he knows none are currently available, he doesn't have the right to argue that nothing negative should come from what amounts to misbehavior. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/18 01:46 PM |
| 1 | CMV: High casualty jobs being primarily occupied by men is not evidence that men have it unfairIf they were designed to "keep men busy" then why all the layoffs during downturns. What we see now is a fraction of how many workers can be replaced right now. Doing that would destroy the middle class, and many businesses depend on the middle class as they purchase the most. So they replace customer service workers now either because it's what the competition is doing or their customers prefer the option. Where women mostly work government jobs. Talk about creating fake jobs. Im not sure why a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/18 10:39 PM |
| 1 | CMV: High casualty jobs being primarily occupied by men is not evidence that men have it unfairNo, most require mechanical skills. Skills anyone can learn. I've seen plenty of toddlers figuring out puzzles and teaching programs on ipads before they were even in school. They've been proven to do nothing. Children that young still need to be taught by people. Cnas,lpns, medical assistants are pretty low pay It's a secure industry that's about to get their own boom when all these baby boomers start needing end of life care. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/18 08:56 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Traditional values AND modern perspectives of sex are both self-indulgent and lame.The role has to have agency worthy of pursuing. As in, something has to come of it. There have to be demonstrable gains for oneself as well as others. If there isn't, there's nothing being risked by rejecting it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/18 08:01 PM |
| 2 | CMV: High casualty jobs being primarily occupied by men is not evidence that men have it unfairLol, no. I'm guessing you have no clue how any of their jobs even work. If they're the kinds men specialize in that women can't it's probably hard labor. Technological advancements can do wonders to help lessen the load for male workers, but then the job becomes manageable for women too. let's discuss school teachers. Now there is one easy to replace group Still need preschool teachers. And if not, the medical field has plenty of better-paying caregiver jobs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/18 07:45 PM |
| 3 | CMV: High casualty jobs being primarily occupied by men is not evidence that men have it unfairSkill is also of great worth to an employer. The dangerous jobs men take exist because they're willing to work for less than the initial cost of the technology it would take to replace them. And rest assured, the technology exists. But no, we can't put these guys out of the job. We can't have cheaper goods. We can't have abundance. No, because of how many men would blow their brains out if they lost those jobs, or worse. Those jobs exist to keep men busy. How do I know I live in a patriarchy? Me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/18 03:30 PM |
| 1 | Girls fuck at their 18, but marry their orbiter at their 30's? Right or wrong?How does a woman weed out the sex mongers? Refrain from sex until a committed relationship is established. 'Players' aren't patient enough to deal with that for long. Most men in general aren't patient enough. Im not saying it's useless trying to get to the guy if you haven't slept with him. It's impossible to know for sure until you sleep with him. I've seen guys go months. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/18 12:32 AM |
| 0 | Girls fuck at their 18, but marry their orbiter at their 30's? Right or wrong?Women these days have to fuck a guy first off. It's the only way to know for sure he's not just interested in sex. It's just how it is now. She can start trying to find the kind of man that wouldn't do that at age 18. But she might end up with a high Ncount, by traditional standards, by the time she gets to one that didn't immediately bail. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/18 12:09 AM |
| 1 | Should the public education system do more to prevent minors from having sex?It's detrimental to cultural narrative centered around marriage and the nuclear family, but only somewhat. Sex has to be scary for this to work, and it just can't anymore. Not much can in the information age when being excommunicated from a church means nothing in civil society. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/18 12:02 AM |
| 0 | 8 year old -- "boys don't get boxes from Amazon"Why market to a demographic that doesn't buy anything? Advertising only targeted towards men would put entire industries out of business. The ones already marketed to them would probably make inconsequential improvements in profit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/18 11:18 PM |
| 5 | Off Topic Thread: What's something that seems obvious in your profession, but the general public misunderstands? (24 November 2018)You don't tell your audience what they like. If they're not responding try something different. You can have your favorites, but you have to consider everyone when you have an audience, which won't always be easy. You can't make everyone happy. You can't make everyone happy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/18 09:12 PM |
| 0 | Why am I so bitter after getting rejected ?No one can control who falls for them and who doesn't. If you're genuinely uninterested in that person you're not doing them any favors by humoring them. You're just wasting their time. Hope can be harmful if it keeps a person from moving forward to better things. Likewise, feeding someone else's hope is an act of malice when you know inside you don't feel how they want you to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/18 05:58 PM |
| 2 | Redditors over 30: What's the biggest change you've seen when it comes to dating?I must've gotten it from the almighty FEMOSPHERE. You make that up yourself? Genius. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/18 05:42 PM |
| 1 | Men should have to control their sexual urges.No one says men shouldn't have a hard time with it. That's a given. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/18 05:40 PM |
| 1 | Reality is filled with love and pain.To your credit, we are hard-wired to interpret rejection as akin to death, being a social species and all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/18 07:48 AM |
| 15 | Redditors over 30: What's the biggest change you've seen when it comes to dating?You find out a lot of what you knew in your twenties was bullshit. I'm looking forward to realizing what I know now is also bullshit when I hit my forties. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/18 03:56 AM |
| 1 | Reality is filled with love and pain.Coordinating between complex social interactions isn't easy. Things are constantly changing and there's very little margin for error. Remember, the first rule of social interaction is you've got to take your lumps. The second rule is you've got to take your fucking lumps. You'll never stop being challenged, and no matter how much you improve, you won't be able to win every time. When that happens, how you react displays everything underneath the persona you project. An outwardly confident man th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/18 03:52 AM |
| 1 | Men should have to control their sexual urges.Or just control yourself and save everyone else the trouble. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/18 03:31 AM |
| 1 | Men should have to control their sexual urges.It's like saying a hungry person doesn't want food while fasting. They do but they want to abstain from it same logic applies here men like seeing women's body which is what distracts them. This, I understand. But why is this anyone's problem but the hungry guy? If there are ways for him to live where he won't be tempted, why shouldn't he and save everyone else the burden of accommodating his choices? Who is he to demand anything?? it is unfair when women don't have the same urges for men as men… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/18 06:42 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Women are a part of society.If you think men are responsible for society itself and it's inner-workings are carefully planned and practically perfect, and that whatever that society produces, including people, must also be perfect, deviating from the original design must ensure an imperfect society that creates imperfect products and people. So if women are arguing against anything besides strict adherence to traditional gender roles it can't be interpreted as anything but an act of intentional destruction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/18 06:04 PM |
| 3 | [Discussion] What are the main reasons that women choose online dating?Men can't lie effectively about who he really is if we can cross reference his dating profile with his Facebook, LinkedIn, Amazon wish list, spotify playlists, public YouTube liked videos, etc. Men's clothes do nothing to show off their bodies. But he probably has two or twelve shirtless pics to check out. It's vetting 2.0, and it's awesome. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/18 04:36 PM |
| 2 | What are your thoughts on slut shaming?Then men can't have risk-free sex if only because women have that power. That means having sex at all for him is consenting control of his reproductive rights to the woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/18 04:02 PM |
| 2 | What are your thoughts on slut shaming?Interesting thought. By that logic, she's obligated to one or two nights of debauchery, then never has sex with him again, just like all the other guys before him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/18 07:21 AM |
| 2 | What are your thoughts on slut shaming?It's riskier for men, since their forms of contraception aren't as effective as women's. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/18 06:43 AM |
| 1 | Q4WOMEN: Fat girls, what was your reaction when you finally realized that looks matter?The harsh amounts to not being approached at every turn. Being able to go about my business without being bothered? Oh no!! Now, as I've lost a lot since then, that has picked up and is now something I can expect to have to waste even more of my time on in the future. Major downside. I've found that it doesn't matter what I look like at all. Some guy will still be interested. It's uncanny. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/18 06:38 AM |
| 4 | Housewives & divorceIf imprisoning women was the point. Why is MGTOW a thing? It's pretty much impossible for men to control women anymore and some would rather be single than have to live by anything differently than what they were taught. And why do you think men want to remarry way more than women? Validation. It's their only assured emotional outlet. Because being single past a certain age is socially uacceptable. We accept a compensation. The only problem is the price. I like this analogy. I like to think of w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/18 09:56 AM |
| 1 | Q4RP / Tradcons / Anybody : How would you redesign the sexual economy to counteract female autonomy?And if men can't fuck any woman they want without consequence they'll keep their dick in their pants and save everyone the time, money, and suffering. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/18 08:08 AM |
| 1 | Men should have to control their sexual urges.Can't they just masturbate?? They say women would hate sex robots, I don't see why! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/18 08:06 AM |
| 4 | Housewives & divorceIt's like they want a captive and incubator for their kids that they don't have any obligation to once it goes sour. Men that do this know they're horrible. Trapping a wife makes it seem to everyone else that he's normal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/18 05:41 AM |
| 1 | Q4RP / Tradcons / Anybody : How would you redesign the sexual economy to counteract female autonomy?Only her can decide if she wants to give birth or have an abortion. Without any say of the progenitor, so stop putting responsibility on him, and absolve women of any wrongdoings. He fucked her, that's his say right there. Men can't have unprotected sex until there's some sort of contraceptive they have control over. Period. Women are not completely irresponsible, but sex for her is risk-free as long as she's on birth control, making her mistakes accidents, not self-serving acts of intentional r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/18 04:18 AM |
| 18 | Housewives & divorceThe point is to keep the woman from leaving them, that way they get to do whatever they want without worrying about consequences. A woman with a job can leave and get custody. A woman with a social life will see other women's relationships and realize there's a problem. Confident women won't be too afraid to leave. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/18 03:56 AM |
| 1 | Q4RP / Tradcons / Anybody : How would you redesign the sexual economy to counteract female autonomy?This only applies to your own children. Everyone else's children are there own responsibility. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/18 03:40 AM |
| 1 | Q4RP / Tradcons / Anybody : How would you redesign the sexual economy to counteract female autonomy?I'm sorry, are women and children package deals? Fathers can only parent if they're in a relationship with the mother? No, it's fathers that choose not to have a presence in their children's lives that are solely responsible for single mothers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/18 03:38 AM |
| 1 | Is war abroad important for gender relations at home? Does the end of war (since inventing nuclear weapons) have any great significance?There are fewer men around, good for the men who are here. Imagine military-grade men in the SMP, there would've been a top 20% man for just about every woman. The end of war for us amounts to "end of war as we know it". Maybe we'll move past destroying infrastructure and killing civilians that may or may not have anything to do with anything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/18 12:36 AM |
| 1 | Q4RP / Tradcons / Anybody : How would you redesign the sexual economy to counteract female autonomy?Cheap and easily reversible vasectomy so that guys must explicitly opt in to paternity Let's just do that. Good idea. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/18 12:24 AM |
| 1 | Q4RP / Tradcons / Anybody : How would you redesign the sexual economy to counteract female autonomy?It's not the mothers the children have to blame for their hardships. Children need their parents for identity's sake. Single mothers at least demonstrate everyday that regardless of the challenges they want their children in their lives. But what will they think of a father that won't even care enough to send a check? Which parent will they say contributed to their misery the most? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/18 12:22 AM |
| 0 | Q4RP / Tradcons / Anybody : How would you redesign the sexual economy to counteract female autonomy?TIL I'm a provider for paying my taxes. I give telemarketers someone to call, I must be a provider. I demand to be treated like anyone depends on me regardless of whether or not they technically do! I, as a provider, deserve it! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/18 11:37 PM |
| 1 | Q4RP / Tradcons / Anybody : How would you redesign the sexual economy to counteract female autonomy?Then, isn't this all just a way to make sex risk-free for men who can have society pressure whoever he might gets pregnant to make the choice that lets him off the hook? Ah, this is just a covert way for men to get the control they've lost over women's sexuality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/18 11:28 PM |
| 1 | Q4RP / Tradcons / Anybody : How would you redesign the sexual economy to counteract female autonomy?Children get special treatment, especially during their formative years. Is that so hard to grasp? The idea of allocating more resources to those incapable of acquiring them themselves? Or are we advocating for the social version of trickle-down economics so we can see how well that's doesn't work too? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/18 09:49 PM |
| 0 | Q4RP / Tradcons / Anybody : How would you redesign the sexual economy to counteract female autonomy?Is your sexism so thick that you can't grasp this reality? There's a saying in psychology: Adults cannot be abandoned. We can abandon people that can't take care of themselves, like children, the sick, and the elderly. But adults get left, never abandoned. Providing follows the same logic. Two adult spouses cannot provide for one another. They collaborate to better provide for their children. If there aren't any children they're cohabitating, even if one spouse doesn't work. Defining "providing"… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/18 09:43 PM |
| 4 | Are dating apps accelerating the demise of the free sexual marketplace?'31 would've been the silent generation, the boomer's parents. Women had to work all kinds of jobs as most able men were off fighting WWI. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/18 09:27 PM |
| 1 | Are dating apps accelerating the demise of the free sexual marketplace?You need context During that time you didn't talk about sex, with anyone, ever. You couldn't get caught masturbating or your entire community would shun you. Your friends would stop hanging out with you so you couldn't be a bad influence on them. You weren't supposed to even know sex was a thing until your wedding night, or you were in league with the devil. And even after your wedding night, it was only sex to have kids in the missionary position. Society's stance back then was for everyone to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/18 09:23 PM |
| 1 | Q4RP / Tradcons / Anybody : How would you redesign the sexual economy to counteract female autonomy?Me neither. Oh, but children aren't allowed to live by themselves. They need a legal guardian that's old enough and willing. Like a parent, maybe! How convenient! I mean, you could think about like the quality of life for the parents directly correlating with the quality of life for the children or something, but I dunno. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/18 07:32 PM |
| 5 | Are dating apps accelerating the demise of the free sexual marketplace?Because back then women had four choices between highest paying jobs. She could be a teacher, a stewardess, a nurse, or a secretary. Because back then, they'd take pregnant teens to a commune before she started to show, confine her until she gave birth, take her baby and put it up for adoption, (or give it to her parents and tell everyone it's their younger sibling) and ship her ass back to school. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/18 07:18 PM |
| 1 | Men should have to control their sexual urges.You're fine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/18 07:08 PM |
| 1 | Q4RP / Tradcons / Anybody : How would you redesign the sexual economy to counteract female autonomy?What about children? It's both parent's responsibility to contribute. Children are too young to handle their own finances, and they'll need that money as long as they're too young to earn a living themselves, so whichever parent the child lives with is going to have to accept those payments on their behalf. HEY, WAIT A MINUTE! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/18 07:07 PM |
| 1 | Q4RP / Tradcons / Anybody : How would you redesign the sexual economy to counteract female autonomy?You mean equality of outcome, where the accomplishments of one are applied evenly to all. You currently have equality of opportunity, meaning you have everything you need to reach the same level as those that accomplish, but you still have to do the work yourself to get there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/18 07:01 PM |
| 1 | Q4RP / Tradcons / Anybody : How would you redesign the sexual economy to counteract female autonomy?Also, it extends to payment on dates, regardless of the woman’s personal income level. Men think acts of kindness and providing are the same thing? No shit. All that’s required is that they provide for the material needs of the woman and all children between them (sometimes including her children with other men). This is what confuses me. Is a woman living by herself in a provider role because she's providing for herself? That's very strange, if it is. It would be an effective way to explain how… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/18 06:49 PM |
| 7 | Where can I meet a blackpilled woman who will still love?I don't think so. Someone's life means as much to you as your own. Their pain is your pain. Their hunger is your hunger. Their death is your death. That's very emotional. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/18 05:40 AM |
| 4 | Where can I meet a blackpilled woman who will still love?Two people voluntarily choosing to equate the other's needs with their own. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/18 04:53 AM |
| 12 | Where can I meet a blackpilled woman who will still love?If you equate love with putting up with whatever you can dish out, and thinking whatever crumbs you toss her way is the best thing ever, you'd be better off looking for a codependent enabler. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/18 04:42 AM |
| 4 | Q4W: Do you actively seek "orbiters"?I have guy friends. I know they've probably thought of me as an option as at least a ONS. But they're just friends to me, not a harem of sycophants. I don't see them much differently than my women friends. Though I think of my man friends the same way Id think about a vegetarian lion. Nothing to be concerned about until they get too hungry. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/18 04:26 AM |
| 1 | Q4RP / Tradcons / Anybody : How would you redesign the sexual economy to counteract female autonomy?Is the provider role and working for wages the same thing? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/18 11:37 PM |
| 1 | Men should have to control their sexual urges.See the problem? NO. If men don't want to see that stuff they can piss off. Let me also add it's not just about urges but also equality. Equality means what applies to one applies to everyone. Of course, we're talking about equality of opportunity as ensuring equality of outcome would be downright oppressive. So if both men and women are being tasked with controlling themselves around scantily clad members of the opposite sex there's nothing unfair about that. Likewise, women wearing revealing c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/18 03:01 PM |
| 1 | Divorce rape and TRPThe whole premise is based on the assumption that men will definitely end up without custody and will definitely have to pay child support. However, men are capable of getting custody if they fight for it and can get child support if he makes less money. The opportunity is equal, the outcome isn't. And that's going to be determined on a case by case basis. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/18 08:13 AM |
| 1 | If the Redpill (or anypill) causes anger, it's because how fake the Blue Pill sounds"Red pill tactics" amount to caring for yourself. Good advice, but it's only for the purpose of getting laid. Blue pill advice also says to care for yourself, but for any other purpose but getting laid. Blue pill advice will result in a well-rounded individual one could have a conversation with. Red pill advice will result in a caricature of a well-rounded individual with scripted lines they'll recite by memory. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/18 07:51 AM |
| 1 | Men should have to control their sexual urges.In the workplace, it has the potential to cost you your job in the long run. Anything gained isn't worth risking your job. You need your job, not a girlfriend. or simply cold approaching women if done respectfully? In the proper setting, it's fine. But simply, relationships don't cease to exist because men can't pick up women at work, or inappropriate areas. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/18 06:48 AM |
| 0 | Men should have to control their sexual urges.I'm saying that if we changed the narrative to one where women were free to immobilize their attackers, then encouraged them to carry weapons, even handed them out, some men would think twice about whether it's worth getting stabbed, or worse. A woman with a knife is deadlier than any man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/18 05:42 AM |
| 1 | Men should have to control their sexual urges.Biological urges are universal, but how we act on those urges is cultural. It's the difference between thinking catcalling is normal and thinking splashing acid in a woman's face is normal for the same reason. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/18 05:30 AM |
| 1 | Men should have to control their sexual urges.They can not act on their urges of course. But do you think it's fair to just ask men to rewire their brain chemistry because we find it inconvenient? It's not natural, it's cultural. Most of us grew up in a society where a lot of what men expect these days would've been the default. Now they're not. If men don't know what to do without that cultural narrative it has nothing to do with their nature. Not knowing what else to do isn't the same as not having any other choice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/18 04:17 AM |
| 0 | Men should have to control their sexual urges.This amounts to being terrorized to the point where one is afraid to leave home. Why not tell women to invest in a knife? Why not encourage extreme justice without prejudice? It's not like we want to force women back into the home, right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/18 04:01 AM |
| 1 | Men should have to control their sexual urges.They get utility from catcalling so the issue is whether your disutility outweighs their utility. Or do you think that no expense should be spared for "women's comfort"? In any other situation, if a stranger just yells and harasses you for no reason, they can be arrested for disturbing the peace. The law acknowledges peace as a right worth defending. Being yelled at in the streets by strangers is anything but peaceful. And for what? The utility men get is achievable without involving anyone else… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/18 03:54 AM |
| 1 | Men should have to control their sexual urges.How men feel about society changing? They can feel however they want, but they can't demand society change back. They still have to adapt. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/18 03:16 AM |
| 1 | Men should have to control their sexual urges.As long as the people you want to admire want to be admired. Only way to know is to ask. If they say no, walk away. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/18 10:36 PM |
| 1 | Men should have to control their sexual urges.A right to pursue women. You don't ask prey whether it wants to be hunted because it doesn't matter, only your needs do. You're not supposed to think about human beings that way. They're always going to have their own agency outside of your needs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/18 09:22 PM |
| 1 | Men should have to control their sexual urges.if I want to express my appreciation of what is beautiful to me by complimenting or noticing, that’s my right. Is it? Why is it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/18 09:04 PM |
| 1 | Men should have to control their sexual urges.My mind is just completely distracted and focussed on something I can't get. It's stupid when you think about it. I would consider that your own problem. Women having to dress to accommodate any man who might get a boner at the sight of her? That's asking so much more from women than the other way around, for men to just go about their business. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/18 08:58 PM |
| 1 | Men should have to control their sexual urges.Women would welcome him wearing what he wants if it means no more complaining about what she's wearing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/18 08:53 PM |
| 1 | Men should have to control their sexual urges.People are allowed to bait you, or at least, you have to accept that other's actions are completely out of your control. You can only control your own actions and have to take responsibility for them, not your baiters. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/18 08:49 PM |
| 1 | Men should have to control their sexual urges.Differences are, it would be more certainly negative if a man did it. Ok. Let's have men wear whatever they want too and just task everyone with remaining professional regardless of what their peers are wearing. That's fair. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/18 05:24 PM |
| 3 | Men should have to control their sexual urges."look at how you're dressed, you skank! They're not entitled to walk by us without getting an earful lol." I'd love to see an honest catcalling skit: "You'd never look twice at me if I didn't yell at you!" "I hate how ill never wake up next to you!" "Why are you so pretty!?" "Why won't you look at me!?" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/18 05:21 PM |
| 2 | Men should have to control their sexual urges.Yeah, to get your attention. Being stared down like you're about to get hit, quite the ice breaker. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/18 05:17 PM |
| 3 | Men should have to control their sexual urges.But your choice to completely dismiss how a woman would feel about that is all cultural. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/18 05:15 PM |
| 1 | Men should have to control their sexual urges.But most guys don't care about fashion and don't consider that when somebody dresses nice they aren't trying to get fucked. Those guys are wrong. They should get informed or not be surprised when they face consequences for acting on willful ignorance | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/18 02:26 PM |
| 2 | Men should have to control their sexual urges.We are both experiencing consent violations and injections of unwanted or anxiety inducing feelings. It’s our responsibility to do our part in managing and processing those feelings without tramping on another’s boundaries. This, I believe is the default position. But it’s also the responsibility of the person intentionally triggering arousal, they have a role to play as well. But this, I have a problem with. If we really take to heart that we absolutely do not want to trample on another's bound… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/18 02:23 PM |
| 3 | Men should have to control their sexual urges.You act as if it's okay to be 100% of the time tempted, and then affirm it's wrong when one succumbs to the temptation That's exactly what I'm saying. It's wrong to act on temptation regardless of the circumstances. Period. No exceptions, no gray areas, no accommodations. One is expected to always be in control of themselves. Not easy, but the least one can do to contribute to their communities. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/18 02:12 PM |
| 3 | Men should have to control their sexual urges.No no, tribal men prove that whatever men in the west say about his outbursts being about nature is bullshit. So men in the west are really acting out of, what? Entitlement? Agression? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/18 02:03 PM |
| 7 | Women who are “crazy cat ladies” aka single women lead awesome lives and men vastly over estimate their value.Maybe our baby boomer parents do, but not the peers we get much more influence from. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/18 06:00 AM |
| 10 | Men should have to control their sexual urges.You can walk around without a shirt on and she has to control her sexual urges just like you. How's that not equal? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/18 05:55 AM |
| 3 | Men should have to control their sexual urges.Men shouldn't feel like they have a right. And if they do, they should justify why they should have it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/18 05:50 AM |
| -6 | Men should have to control their sexual urges.No, it's always unappreciated. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/18 05:46 AM |
| 6 | Men should have to control their sexual urges.You can choose to take a Rolex off. Women can't control who they attract just for being women. And in any case, it's not wrong to prioritize your own well-being over someone who can do the same. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/18 05:41 AM |
| 1 | Men should have to control their sexual urges.All women hate that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/18 05:32 AM |
| 2 | Men should have to control their sexual urges."Can sometimes lead to good things", doesn't make it ok. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/18 05:31 AM |
| -1 | Men should have to control their sexual urges.Men can control their urges. It's just harder for them than it is for women. That's no excuse not to have to do it, or not accept the consequences for what his urges get him into. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/18 05:29 AM |
| -2 | Men should have to control their sexual urges.What she does is her business. That doesn't give you an excuse to do whatever you want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/18 05:06 AM |
| -2 | Men should have to control their sexual urges.That includes catcalling, pursuing relationships in the workplace, flirting in inappropriate situations, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/18 05:03 AM |
| 1 | CMV: On the whole, it is easier for women to progress than men in the workplaceShit doesn't have to happen if people control themselves. It's not that hard to prioritize your job over something you want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/18 03:40 AM |
| 1 | CMV: On the whole, it is easier for women to progress than men in the workplaceMen are not entitled to sex or relationships, but people are also not entitled to zero risk zero drama work environments because this is just not realistic. Of course it is. Easy? No, but that's irrelevant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/18 02:42 AM |
| 1 | comment from r/truefemcels (+6 upvote), do women really think this way?When did masturbation stop being a release? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/18 06:31 AM |
| 3 | CMV: Its okay to use women for sex.I think in this context, it's not an agreed on arrangement. Im pretty sure he didn't suggest he use her for sex and she wholeheartedly agreeing to it. There's no way to benefit from being used, unlike the arrangement she thought she was agreeing to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/18 04:43 AM |
| -4 | Marrying Redpill MenThat's not fair. A healthy sex life for me doesn't necessarily require anyone else to be involved. But masturbation isn't good enough for men, they need women to have sex with them, making his sex-life entirely her problem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/18 06:18 PM |
| 0 | Marrying Redpill MenRP men recognized their innate desire for women was compelling them to appeal to them. They realized that women aren't interested in their struggle to make her like him so they decide to stop being nice to women altogether. Women don't respond, so they decide to have nothing to do with them altogether. Women still don't respond, so they blame society, one that they say they built for the benefit of women, for giving women the ability to not have to respond. Something they see as no different tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/18 06:12 PM |
| -3 | Marrying Redpill MenPriorities are a thing. My SO's dick isn't unimportant, just not a priority. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/18 04:58 PM |
| 2 | Do women know (or care) when a man is being nice for a principled reason vs. a "weak" reason?We can be sceptical at first, but if that kind of behavior is consistent, they'll be no choice but to accept that it's just his personality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/18 04:54 PM |
| 6 | CMV: On the whole, it is easier for women to progress than men in the workplaceProfessionalism doesn't take a pause because you really like the girl. Doing the wrong thing is still wrong regardless of the outcome. If things had gone south, if you broke up and you ended up hating your job because of it, which one would you have missed more? Your girlfriend or the ability to pay your rent? What about your coworkers that have to accommodate whatever bullshit your relationship sends their way when they should be focusing on their jobs? Is whatever you get worth all that? Yeah?… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/18 08:01 AM |
| 2 | CMV: On the whole, it is easier for women to progress than men in the workplaceI met my girlfriend at work. And of course I was one who escalated it to that level. So, does this mean actually am I bad person who should have just controlled myself? YES. There's no consistency. If you succeed, you're fine. If you fail, you're a pervert/harasser/can't control yourself. The stance you have of "just control yourself"... it's just idiotic. I can use this logic to justify anything. Theres no consistency when I drive drunk and don't get into an accident, so people who say not to d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/18 07:01 AM |
| 13 | CMV: On the whole, it is easier for women to progress than men in the workplaceWhat you're describing is all attributed to men's innate attraction to women being an obstacle that women don't have. That acting professional around pretty ladies is harder for men than the other way around. Once again, this is an attempt to put restrictions on women so men can avoid responsibility for their actions. This creates a lose-lose dynamic for women as they're often unable to do much to keep men from desiring them, even staying away. Men are being tasked with controlling themselves be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/18 05:16 AM |
| 1 | Purple Pill Dating Advice?So you're good. Go places just to chill out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/18 02:12 AM |
| 1 | "Hypergamy" is women's logical response to the change in gender dynamics+genuine dating advice from a blue pillerSo the only way you can have both not responsible for it is like if they both use condoms? The only way to avoid the burden of obligation is to not have sex, period. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/18 03:46 PM |
| 1 | Both men and women, in general, are guilty of treating each other "unfairly". This is just human nature--to use all the tools and advantages at one's disposal to achieve one's own self interest.I would argue that women's interests are in ensuring their children's wellbeing. That's the whole reason for her mate selecting in the first place, the potential for healthier offspring. Women are capable of defending themselves, weapons are the great equalizer after all. A man that will help take care of the children is great, but as far as women are concerned, prioritizing men for any reason makes no sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/18 07:26 AM |
| 0 | Q4ALL: With more and more men failing to have sex at all, do you think western societies are moving in a polygynous direction? Do you think polygynous societies are sustainable in the long run? Are they doomed to fall apart due to the unequal distribution of sex?I'll level with you, we might see rape go up. We don't have great methods for dealing with that right now. That won't pull society apart, not even close. But since there's also no solution for incels, and there isn't enough to terrorize society into compliance, they'll become public enemy number one. Any violence towards women will automatically be assumed to be because of them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/18 05:20 AM |
| 1 | Purple Pill Dating Advice?You're your own advertising, so be in places your target audience will see you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/18 04:40 AM |
| 1 | What is the difference between being needy and being vulnerable?The difference is the intent behind voicing one's problems. If you do it expecting someone to do something about it, you're needy. If you're still going to do it, but hate how much it's going to suck and want to complain about it, you're vulnerable. What's the point in complaining if nothing is going to come of it? First of all, it lets you get all of that stress out. People aren't pleasant to be around when they're stressed out. But more importantly, there's always a chance someone has the same… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/18 12:57 AM |
| 1 | "Hypergamy" is women's logical response to the change in gender dynamics+genuine dating advice from a blue pillerIn your analogy, if a woman gets pregnant while the man was wearing a condom, then the entire responsibility is on the woman. Condoms are more effective at preventing STIs than pregnancy. And yes, the responsibility is on the woman. Despite the condom asks like a seatbelt for both of them and likely agreed on it, which is why your analogy is bad. No! You either have a seatbelt or you don't. If you drive without one you're an idiot that invited whatever hardships you end up with. And maybe drivin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/18 04:00 PM |
| 1 | Is my gf a Bad person?Yeah. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/18 07:34 AM |
| 1 | Is my gf a Bad person?If you don't talk to someone, have no idea what they're all about, can you really love them? You can love having them around, like the idea of them, love what they do for you, but not them. They're an asset to be used when needed, not a person with their own needs. Any kind of relationship with someone that sees you that way is just going to drag you down to better keep you around. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/18 07:20 AM |
| 2 | Q4Men: Is there anything about women that intimidates or has intimidated you in the past?But I simply don’t know how far I can push gossip, banter, or postering. Since these are unknowns, they are intimidating. Try to win. Simple as that. But be prepared to give it everything you've got only to be beaten by a woman and not be seen as less than. Look at it like any other competition and start training to do better next time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/18 04:52 AM |
| 1 | Women as RewardI agree with everything you've said, but not that women bear any responsibility. Only because a man's desire is inherent whether women want or are even aware of it. That shifts the undue responsibility for men's attraction to women. There would some legitimacy to this argument if not for the fact that as men are capable of controlling their own urges, there's no justification, and even less urgency, as to why women should accept anything. Without justification, demands are obviously because of a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/18 04:45 AM |
| 2 | Women as RewardThe system definitely needs to change; but said change has to be sure and take in the needs for everyone involved in it...or it's going to lead the dispossessed toward some form of social revolt (i.e. incel revolt). There's really no good way to make this happen. Men and women are directly opposed in what their ideals would be. The only thing the system can do is favor one or favor none. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/18 04:21 AM |
| 3 | [Q4All] How much respect do you think men actually get?If you mean being at a point where others won't challenge you out of fear or reverence, one has to be either scary or need to have done something worth revering. If you're of the opinion that men are responsible for civilization as we know it and should all be revered, low value men will contribute nothing and still reap the benefits. What incentives are there to do anything at that point? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/18 03:47 AM |
| 7 | How many women consider daygaming always annoying regardless of the circumstances?I don't know about you, but i'm never just going for a walk to nowhere. I've got someplace to be. The way you'd feel about the people in front of you in a line, that's the same way id feel about anyone getting in my way. But you're doing it on purpose, so If I had a knife i'd cut you and feel absolutely nothing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/18 03:04 AM |
| 1 | "Hypergamy" is women's logical response to the change in gender dynamics+genuine dating advice from a blue pillerBirth control is the only tool men have to shield themselves, and it isn't 100% reliable. No, women have birth control as a shield. Men don't have anything. Women and men don't want other men to have control, so reliable things for men isn't going to be widespread so quickly. So they need to work on making it happen. Birth control wasn't created overnight. Men funded and developed female pill, wtf are you on about. Then why haven't they been able to create an effective solution for themselves? T… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/18 10:15 PM |
| 2 | "Hypergamy" is women's logical response to the change in gender dynamics+genuine dating advice from a blue piller"Women ask for hard things, and won't just leave me alone and do whatever she needs herself." So men just want to exist in her proximity? No real interaction beyond sex, just the important status reports? No, thank you. I'd rather do everything myself without having to entertain what amounts to my oldest son. Husbands/fathers don't get to sit around and do nothing anymore. He sit when she sits or he's gone. That's fair. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/18 03:16 PM |
| 2 | "Hypergamy" is women's logical response to the change in gender dynamics+genuine dating advice from a blue pillerWe have to sleep with men first in order to know if he'll stick around and didn't just want sex. There's no other way to know for sure. This is just the way it is now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/18 03:05 PM |
| 3 | "Hypergamy" is women's logical response to the change in gender dynamics+genuine dating advice from a blue pillerThat's because of birth control. If men want it, they can put the work into funding the research for it, like women demonstrated was possible decades ago. Meanwhile, men sit in the corner and cry that mommy won't do it for him. Get your own damn birth control, take full responsibility for whatever comes out of your sex life or just don't have sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/18 03:04 PM |
| 1 | "Hypergamy" is women's logical response to the change in gender dynamics+genuine dating advice from a blue pillerMen aren't valuable to being with. The whole point of coupling isn't so either gender benefits. Procreation is our only priority, and once we fulfill it, we're good to go (die). If looking at the big picture, the only thing that really matters, a divorced man with one child is superior to the Chad with no kids. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/18 02:59 PM |
| 1 | "Hypergamy" is women's logical response to the change in gender dynamics+genuine dating advice from a blue pillerWell, men then start seeing they should just fuck until it slows down and leave. That's the outcome women are inadvertently creating. It's not like she's benefiting either. Both parents agree to put aside their own self-interests in favor of prioritizing that of their children. That's not asking a lot, as children only need this level of commitment during the formative years and then tapers off from there. Attraction, relationships, and the like, it's all about kids. Even if there's no desire to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/18 09:17 AM |
| 2 | "Hypergamy" is women's logical response to the change in gender dynamics+genuine dating advice from a blue pillerIt's not incentivized. Women don't reward this; they expect it in the base image of a man they want to have kids with. Men don't get rewarded. That's not the point. The reward is supposed to be having ensured the passing of your genes to the next generation. Women DON'T pick MOST beta men. Hypergamy wants the best and hypergamy sucks at the long game; most of us do because we lack discipline. They want the best potential fathers for their children. But as soon as the kids are grown up... The mor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/18 07:58 AM |
| 1 | Where do these Blue Pill Platitudes come from?Blue pill advice will never entertain men just looking to get laid. It's about being a likable person so she'll maybe want to get to know you and end up wanting to have sex with you. Because how do you ask how to get women to sleep with you without considering how they'll feel about it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/18 07:11 AM |
| 4 | "Hypergamy" is women's logical response to the change in gender dynamics+genuine dating advice from a blue pillerIn search of what? Women can support themselves. First of all, it's the narrative that marriage means happiness. When it doesn't, because they're hard, they end. I looked up the numbers and noticed that women end marriages more often when there are children involved. Women reported their husbands were emotionally distant. Now tell me, do you think that wouldn't extend to the kids? And how harmful that can be for a child, especially during the formative years? He's just dead weight if he's not go… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/18 06:59 AM |
| 3 | "Hypergamy" is women's logical response to the change in gender dynamics+genuine dating advice from a blue pillerIf child support really is meant to be a deterrent, it's not a good one. A man can make as many fatherless children as the amount of money he makes will allow. We don't have any intentional deterrents. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/18 06:32 AM |
| 1 | "Hypergamy" is women's logical response to the change in gender dynamics+genuine dating advice from a blue pillerBeing willing isn't all there is to it. Attractiveness is also important. It's a women's best indication of what will create healthy children, as with men it's about a woman's body mass. Consider compatibility in terms of personality, proximity of available men, and the pool all but dries up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/18 06:22 AM |
| 3 | "Hypergamy" is women's logical response to the change in gender dynamics+genuine dating advice from a blue pillerThe childbirth rates are dropping in the west so this narrative and man/woman/offspring will need to be adjusted and hypergamy will become more focused on status and looks with less regard for offspring. You mean stop being human? Just all agree to turn it off together? That's a thing we can do? I don't have kids because I didn't inherit the mommy gene and according to falling western birthrates more women are saying no to children or limiting their numbers. Whether or not you actually want chil… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/18 06:14 AM |
| 3 | "Hypergamy" is women's logical response to the change in gender dynamics+genuine dating advice from a blue pillerChild support isn't meant to punish men. It's to take the sting off the damage divorce has already done to the children. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/18 05:58 AM |
| 1 | "Hypergamy" is women's logical response to the change in gender dynamics+genuine dating advice from a blue pillerA quality man is going to be prioritize his children's happiness over his own. That means setting the example of a harmonious relationship. Compatibility determines a quality relationship. All other qualities are worthless without it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/18 05:51 AM |
| 1 | "Hypergamy" is women's logical response to the change in gender dynamics+genuine dating advice from a blue pillerWomen would rather the men paying just be good husbands and fathers, I guarantee it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/18 05:44 AM |
| 1 | Why is it okay when women use mens bathroom if their is unavailable or full but not vise versa?They just make worse smells IMO. But don't try to convince him there's even a problem because they're already used to it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/18 04:34 PM |
| 9 | Male version of hypergamy?Women would prefer men make a clean, immediate break. Wasting her time is the worst thing he can do to her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/18 02:20 PM |
| 1 | Why is it okay when women use mens bathroom if their is unavailable or full but not vise versa?Men make a mess when they pee standing up. The little splashlets get everywhere and make everything smell like piss. Anything in the vicinity gets lightly coated. And guy piss stinks. Women won't go back to a place with a nasty stinky bathroom. So let the ladies squat in peace and the guys can piss outside. Because they can. They can piss anywhere they want. What's the freaking problem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/18 01:41 PM |
| 2 | Would feminists have better luck in changing mens' behavior by framing the discussion as a "here's how to improve your chances of getting laid" instruction manual?Yes, of course. That's about the same for everyone. Let me put it this way. I've heard that the way to a man's heart is through his stomach. So that means I have to be a good cook to get a man to marry me, right? I can think of men as animals that I have to catch with bait, that's easy. It makes things more complicated, but it makes sense to think of each person as needing an instruction manual all their own. Because you have to know someone completely in order to say you truly love them. Otherw… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/18 01:32 PM |
| 5 | Mid 30s men. Are your other male peers all going through the same relationship problems?We all got sold the narrative that relationships and children mean happiness. Turns out, those things are difficult. People then take to blaming themselves or their spouses for not finding the bliss they're supposed to have. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/18 12:19 AM |
| 1 | Dress codes are not "sexist". Girls who violate them areThe point in a professional environment is to avoid romantic interest. Period. If a woman decides to wear a low cut top and a short skirt, as long as it follows the dress code, there's no problem. It's not her responsibility to ensure others won't think of her in a romantic context, it's each individual's responsibility not to think that way regardless of the circumstances. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/18 12:06 AM |
| -1 | What are the major flaws in red pill theory?That women value men for support despite being capable of supporting themselves. That they want protectors when the women they're talking about live in secure, established civilizations. That a relationship means never having to say you're sorry. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/18 11:34 PM |
| 2 | Would feminists have better luck in changing mens' behavior by framing the discussion as a "here's how to improve your chances of getting laid" instruction manual?It would say to let women come to you naturally. Your presence is your advertising, so make sure it's in a place potential customers can see you. The whole idea is that the first interactions frame the rest of the relationship. If it's done by manipulation, which PUA is at it's core, it'll be too taxing to last long term. Both parties should have equal amounts of genuine interest in one another. But let me answer your question directly. You're not supposed to think of people in terms of what the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/18 10:59 PM |
| 1 | Why the assumption that a LTR/marriage automatically leads to happiness?I guess that's the real reason divorce rates went up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/18 09:39 PM |
| 1 | Why the assumption that a LTR/marriage automatically leads to happiness?If that were so we'd only expect relationships to last as long as children were being raised, making relationships necessary for about 20 years. But we're seeing an expectation of being together well past that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/18 04:49 PM |
| 6 | Why the assumption that a LTR/marriage automatically leads to happiness?That, I understand. It would be all well and good to just say we need marriage for the sake of societal structure. That makes sense. But since relationships are hard and are often not a source of happiness, if they were portrayed that way, we'd maybe stop rushing into them only end up divorced sooner than later. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/18 09:15 AM |
| 1 | Falling madly in love first or falling in love over time/learning to love?This is all out of context. Eastern culture is so fundamentally different than Western we can't compare the two. We'll never know what it's like to live in a strict caste system. We're taught that the choice of who we marry is a sacred right. Having that right taken away will never amount to happiness. The link between marriage and economics cannot be ignored. The majority of LTRs we saw in the 50's was about survival. Nothing more, nothing less. Of course divorces were going to increase the mom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/18 06:00 AM |
| 3 | Why do so many women on Reddit (TwoX, etc) exaggerate how often they are 'assaulted', catcalled, harassed, discriminated against, etc?Are you sure they're exaggerating? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/18 04:15 AM |
| 8 | Are men becomming less attractive to women?No kidding. Divorce is always assumed to be bad for some reason. But it's not like these guys are arguing in good faith anyway. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/18 03:19 PM |
| 3 | Most Men, By Nature, Are Meant to Be Sexless, If Not Sex-LimitedYou needed to have a lot of kids. To replace the ones who die, to work in the fields, to sell if shit happens, and one to isolate so to have nothing keeping them from caring for the parents in old age. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/18 03:09 PM |
| 1 | Being directly sexual is considered creepy and pretending to be friends with a girl just to get sex is also considered wrong. If both of these methods are wrong then how are you supposed to go about showing interest?Lead with clear romantic interest. If you're turned down, end conversation and walk away. Any further attempts to interact will (accurately) be interpreted as attempts to wear her down. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/18 04:25 AM |
| 2 | Having higher standards as you get older isn’t a bad thing. In fact, that’s what should happen.It's impossible to quantify whether you're the best boyfriend she's had. The whole idea completely excuses hypergamy, you realize that right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/18 03:27 AM |
| 2 | Having higher standards as you get older isn’t a bad thing. In fact, that’s what should happen.If she doesn't think I am the best partner she's ever had then I don't want to be with her in the first place. That's impossible. I "put in" whatever she wants and asks from me. So I am sure I put in enough. Ask her, maybe? If she's not into it at all, find another girlfriend? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/18 03:15 PM |
| 8 | Having higher standards as you get older isn’t a bad thing. In fact, that’s what should happen.That means that if she trusted previous partners from day one... I want the same. If she didn't make their previous partners wait before having sex with them... I want the same. Serious question: why do you think you deserve the same? Why not consider that you're maybe not best boyfriend she's ever had? That you're getting what you put in, and if you want more, you have to do more? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/18 02:56 PM |
| 1 | Does masculinity do anything for you?They don’t get what makes the men they admire and try to be respected by other men and desired by women. That's because these things are difficult. To be admired one must do admirable things. They must be done even when no one is watching. They must be done when there's no chance at reward. They have to be respectable. They have to be courteous to the inconsiderate. They have to be fair even if they end up with less. They have to put others before themselves with no incentive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/18 02:50 PM |
| 1 | Does masculinity do anything for you?I mean in the classical sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/18 02:33 PM |
| 2 | Does masculinity do anything for you?Those traits aren't necessarily helpful in every context. It's definitely not in a service industry setting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/18 02:31 PM |
| 3 | Does masculinity do anything for you?What do you mean "Amount of Effort". Its a lifestyle not a one off thing. I don't subscribe to this way of thinking. Unless there's a literal gun to your head, lifestyle is a choice that changes the moment the person decides to change it. If someone is a femboy, they will need to destroy old habits and then develop new ones which will be more effort. If the effort will result in more benefits than the old habits will give, more will be lost by doing the same thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/18 07:17 AM |
| 1 | Does masculinity do anything for you?Masculinity does everything for men. It is the key indicator for success. What specifically? For example, from what you were saying about social interaction being easier, is that the only benefit? When I say benefit, I'm talking about the amount of effort compared to the result. Also, there has to be no other way to achieve a specific goal. Femininity has benefits, just neither in proportion to the effort needed to maintain it nor the lack of options that achieve the same result. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/18 06:37 AM |
| 1 | Does masculinity do anything for you?Nope. Two x chromosomes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/18 06:04 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Women have naturally traitorous characterIt's traitorous if you believe the current way of doing things at any given time must never be altered. Women don't trust systems. If they're outdated ot obsolete then resources should stop and be diverted to something useful. I think before calling women treacherous instead of adaptable, you have to defend why keeping what amounts to outdated traditions is better than updating them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/18 03:44 PM |
| 1 | Where does the idea that most men are losers come from?It's because of the old adage, "If a man could fuck a woman in a cardboard box, he wouldn't buy a house." Working, supporting yourself, contributing to society, that's supposed to be seen as the default and still call yourself an adult. Not the price to pay for status, women and all of that. There's no winning with these guys. They either do it and whine, or let them leech off of others. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/18 06:29 AM |
| 9 | AMALTTo them, women abandoning their gender role is disloyal. Working to support yourself or others, to them, is only something someone occupying the male gender role can do. That includes themselves. They otherwise wouldn't mind living in their parent's basements their entire lives. They only don't because of the social stigma, which they see as unfair as women don't have social stigma for abandoning their gender roles. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/18 04:50 AM |
| 1 | Do Women even like Dick Pics?If she wants one, she'll ask for one. The size of a guy's penis doesn't indicate anything about how good he is in bed. Whatever a dick pic is meant to do, it completely fails to accomplish. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/18 06:58 AM |
| 1 | Q4Men: If a woman keeps talking to you and flirting with you, at what point do you ask her out? More inside.The best way is to not engage in the first place. Cut conversation short and find someone else to talk to. Don't stick around if they're close by. They'll forget all about you. To reject them, say you don't see it going anywhere between the two of you. That's something women really care about. Indicate you have plans for your life that make the two of you incompatible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/18 09:35 PM |
| 3 | The Oncoming IrrelevancyCan confirm: in the last two months i've been hearing about my friend's parents and relatives going into the hospital for either a stroke or a heart attack. All boomers! But then again, these are the same people that thought a fried chicken sandwich was healthier than a burger back in the day. Burger places didn't even have chicken sandwiches before the fat-free phase in the early nineties. People really thought the fat-free sugar-frosted cookies were healthier. No internet, no one wanted to go … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/18 05:35 PM |
| 8 | Q4all Is it true that women are not "biologically hardwired for long term monogamy" ?This makes lots of sense. Children, the elderly, and the sick need care. No man strong enough to offer security will ever need as much care, and therefore, should focus on caring for himself. It always strikes me as odd to hear a man say he's jealous of how his wife gives more attention to the kids. His kids, even. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/18 04:53 PM |
| 2 | The Oncoming IrrelevancyWhat happens when the societal roles you grew up with become irrelevant by the time you reach adulthood? Whatever you want. You're free to pursue a different role, stick to the familiar ones, or have no role at all. It's not the end of the world. You're not without direction or purpose. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/18 03:41 AM |
| 1 | What are some of PPD's most striking failures to see nuance?Encouraging strength creates the vulnerable, as those excluded have no choice but to depend on one another for support. A vulnerable society will collectively support each other's potential. Whereas a strength society will deny the usefulness of any potential that won't build strength. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/18 11:40 PM |
| 1 | What are some of PPD's most striking failures to see nuance?It's bizarre if the idea is to encourage a society meant to encourage strength. The system we have today is transitioning into a society that encourages vulnerability. And what I mean by vulnerability is the acknowledgment of how important other people are to our own survival. Strength is inherently exclusive about what is and isn't strong behavior, leaving those considered weak to a cruel fate. The accessibility to other's viewpoints causes shifts towards support for the vulnerable. And we have… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/18 09:35 PM |
| 5 | What are some of PPD's most striking failures to see nuance?What's wrong with fewer people having children they can't afford? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/18 06:39 PM |
| 1 | Working wife or SAHM?It's riskier. You never know when the ball is going to drop. Someone's unique personality will last as long as they do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/18 05:01 PM |
| 6 | What are some of PPD's most striking failures to see nuance?Making it a completely raw deal for men. What’s the equivalent raw deal for women? Him. His presence. He's someone keeping you from what you want for the sake of compromise. He's a time sink. He takes up space. And that's just him existing. A lot of men these days cease all domestic responsibility as soon as they're in a relationship. A lot of men get irrationally upset if women don't drop everything they're doing to check in. All the while misunderstanding that when you offer nothing, you deman… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/18 04:57 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: In your social circle is it acceptable to date a friends ex?NO. Even if they sign off on it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/18 06:44 AM |
| 22 | What are some of PPD's most striking failures to see nuance?Current irreconcilable economic realities and the effect it's had on romantic relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/18 06:43 AM |
| 2 | Working wife or SAHM?I am not convinced that men in general have no value. But you can convince me otherwise. Their value is now solely subjective. Women will choose men for companionship, making the personalities of each the metric to determine value. More personal value than formulaic. Love is just a transaction where two people improve each other's lives. Romantic love is about to people mutually agreeing to make the other a top priority. The reasons why vary from relationship to relationship. Ones based on unsus… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/18 04:19 AM |
| 3 | Working wife or SAHM?Women either depend on men, making it necessary to change their behavior to attract the best one. Or they don't, can live just fine without men, and never have to change anything. There's no gray area. Men having no value means a relationship is a net loss, exponentially so if they have kids. But really, I think that's the mark of true love these days. "I love you so much, it doesn't even matter how much better my life would be without you." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/18 02:25 AM |
| 2 | Working wife or SAHM?I would make the research I need to make, pick the right partner and take the deal. You wouldn't have a choice who you picked. You'd be in a race against the clock for any man. Unless you wanted to live with your parents for the rest of their lives, then hope they leave you a house to live in, that you eventually get thrown out of because you're too old to work and can't pay the property taxes (this would've been before social security). Or you can hope all the good men aren't taken. If they are… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/18 01:59 AM |
| 2 | Q4RP: Is the current TRP sub a good place for men to improve their "game" with women or is it gone to shit?YouTube is a good place to start. It'll give a better understanding of social interaction. Listening to different people talking is a good example of how inflection in the voice can be used. It also doesn't hurt as a way to catch up on topics that would come up in conversation. Haven't seen a movie? There are numerous reviews that detail it shot for shot, as well as summarize it in ways you might not have if just watching it, all in less than ten minutes. One great channel I recommend is ILoveTh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/18 12:25 AM |
| 0 | CMV: Advice about relationships from people who "fell into" their relationships should be disregarded by the inexperienced posters such as myself.On the contrary, you should be following their example. Taking the time to know someone first obviously works. If what you want is the key to avoiding rejection that doesn't exist. The first rule of all social interaction is you've got to take your lumps. The second rule of all social interaction is you've got to take your FUCKING lumps! Nobody likes the guy that can't take a little punishment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/18 03:49 AM |
| 1 | How do I acquire the masculinity that my father miserably failed to teach me?This is based on the assumption that you'd have fewer problems if you were more masculine. From what you've said you're dad isn't masculine, yet still managed to achieve a few goals you find yourself struggling with. There's no denying times are different now. The obstacles you think masculinity will solve might just be harder in general and has nothing to do with you. Not necessarily a comfort, but worth considering. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/18 03:23 AM |
| 1 | What does everybody think about this fascinating comment about looks/status?Of course not. But when it comes down to it, those that won't are a lower priority than those that can't. The powerless like children, elderly, and the sick deserve to be cared for first. And in case you haven't noticed, we're over capacity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/18 05:36 PM |
| 1 | What does everybody think about this fascinating comment about looks/status?No. I equate being needed with being burdened by someone who could be more competent, but chooses not to be. That could just be me, though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/18 04:40 PM |
| 1 | What does everybody think about this fascinating comment about looks/status?Having someone following you around, needing you to do things for them, is burdensome, not endearing. And considering the information age we're in we don't have many "less than intelligent" people anymore. Plenty of misinformed, but that's not the same thing. Misinformed don't defer to others, they act on based on bad information, screw everything up, then need someone else to clean up their mess. Why anyone would want that in their lives is beyond me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/18 04:20 PM |
| 3 | What does everybody think about this fascinating comment about looks/status?Having someone following you around, needing you to do things for them, is burdensome, not endearing. And considering the information age we're in we don't have many "less than intelligent" people anymore. Plenty of misinformed, but that's not the same thing. Misinformed don't defer to others, they act on based on bad information, screw everything up, then need someone else to clean up their mess. Why anyone would want that in their lives is beyond me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/18 04:20 PM |
| 6 | What does everybody think about this fascinating comment about looks/status?Right, so now when people get together it's because they genuinely want to be with that specific person. So much so, they're willing to set themselves back. That's not such a bad thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/18 03:49 PM |
| 2 | What does everybody think about this fascinating comment about looks/status?To do so would be an act of weakness. Really? How so? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/18 03:33 PM |
| 7 | What does everybody think about this fascinating comment about looks/status?men can make their own money just fine and don't require a woman for it, whereas women don't feel safe unless a man makes money. Women don't want to support men, it's simple as that. Unlike a man, a woman will feel less threatened that his social life is going to have too many opportunities for him to do better. So whatever benefit a man would have knowing his wife was at home wouldn't apply to a woman in the same situation. Without benefit, all you have is a burden. So women are choosing to sta… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/18 03:31 PM |
| 1 | Q4Women: Are women the “gatekeepers” of sex? If so, why?Hell, it's literally driving the boom in the pet industry right now. My point exactly. Want and need mean different things. A want can be forgone, or satisfied other ways like getting a pet. Do men really take complaints that seriously? WTF? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/18 01:44 AM |
| 2 | Why do so many redditors outside this sub believe that the friend zone doesn't exist?Manipulate, in that the idea is to intentionally control another person without their knowledge. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/18 01:18 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: What would you do if you asked out a woman and she said to you: "I think we should be friends first" ?If I look back at my friendships, I've never felt like I was chasing them. Sometimes they message me. Sometimes I message them. If they're not the kind to do that sort of thing it doesn't necessarily mean they're a bad friend. Their personality doesn't mesh with your personal expectations. Another person might think that kind of friendship as an ideal. For your hypothetical woman... why can't she handle her own shit? Is she not a grown woman? Is she so insecure she needs to feel chased to feel v… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/18 05:54 AM |
| 2 | Instagram model complains of being seen as sexyThis begs the question: Does dressing sexy always mean wanting sex? Is it possible to just want to look sexy for no reason? Men see women dressing sexy as a signal that sex is on sale, like a clearance sign. But feeling like you don't have to ask permission for access is how we're supposed to think about inanimate objects, never a person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/18 05:40 AM |
| 1 | Is club dancing inherently sexual?All dancing is inherently sexual. It's how we demonstrate our fitness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/18 04:50 AM |
| 1 | Q4Men: What would you do if you asked out a woman and she said to you: "I think we should be friends first" ?Initiating contact, replying to a message, or taking initiative to make plans would be giving him a "pat on the back for doing what he is supposed to do"? That would fall under being able to handle his shit. As in, attributing a lack of reaching out as personal. Secure people don't do that. Your male friends are just Plan Bs you keep around to evaluate for future boyfriend potential? I knew within 15 seconds whether any of them were fuckable. And yeah, they are, but their friendship is worth mor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/18 04:47 AM |
| 1 | Q4Women: Are women the “gatekeepers” of sex? If so, why?Women know within 15 seconds whether they'd ever sleep with a man. If she wouldn't fuck you after 15 seconds it doesn't matter if your actions are attractive or not, your chances are still going to be nonexistent. Likewise, if she would consider fucking him she'll be more receptive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/18 03:51 AM |
| 2 | Why do so many redditors outside this sub believe that the friend zone doesn't exist?The term "friendzone" carries with it certain contexts. It completely dismisses what cause of being placed there, attempting to manipulate someone into a relationship by pretending to be their friend. Most would agree that's a shit thing to do to someone. But by framing it based on the frustration that comes from unrequited love, which most can easily relate, they can be seen as victims. The more accurate description of the "friendzone" is headquarters wherein the process of wearing down someone… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/18 03:44 AM |
| 1 | Q4Women: Are women the “gatekeepers” of sex? If so, why?Pfft, men aren't decorative. Be compassionate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/18 03:11 AM |
| 2 | Q4Women: Are women the “gatekeepers” of sex? If so, why?You never have that. Any woman you end up with will want something in exchange. Or at least, will give nothing if it means having nothing expected of her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/18 03:09 AM |
| 3 | Q4Women: Are women the “gatekeepers” of sex? If so, why?Nah man, someone else is doing that. IDGAF. One can keep all of their negative emotions bottled up, but that rarely works out. Complaining releases those negative emotions. It's not done with the expectation that someone will help fix the problem. They'll do it themselves but it's going to suck the entire time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/18 10:26 PM |
| 1 | If the father was adamant about not wanting a child would you still want it ?Would him not wanting the child be enough to convince me, someone that does, not to have it? That's an interesting question. I was going to say yes, but that means he's going to be on the hook for child support. Our kid will have to live knowing one parent doesn't care about them. And it's not like I can't just find another guy who wants kids to try with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/18 08:54 PM |
| 5 | Q4Women: Are women the “gatekeepers” of sex? If so, why?Right. But women don't seem effected by the lack of LTRs like men are, so it's their problem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/18 08:48 PM |
| 1 | Q4Women: Are women the “gatekeepers” of sex? If so, why?People need each other. Everything you described you don't need an SO for. However, they would feel obligated to care for you, which I gather you'd prefer more than a professional. Excuse me for saying but that's very telling. You'd want an SO because they'd be obligated. Does it matter to you whether or not she would want to care for you? What she might have going on? You're supposed to think of inanimate objects that way, not people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/18 04:02 PM |
| 0 | Q4Women: Are women the “gatekeepers” of sex? If so, why?Yeah, but that's the way it is. No one's too good. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/18 03:09 PM |
| -1 | Q4Women: Are women the “gatekeepers” of sex? If so, why?Women need comfort and security like men need sex. We can do that ourselves. Women are weaker than men, but give her a deadly weapon... This route will never please women, as useful as they'd be to women, and it will never be beneficial to the men that try it. Because relationships aren't beneficial anymore to men or women. Whatever you want from women you can get yourself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/18 03:06 PM |
| 2 | Q4Women: Are women the “gatekeepers” of sex? If so, why?We value companionship over sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/18 02:41 PM |
| 7 | Q4Women: Are women the “gatekeepers” of sex? If so, why?Commitment was necessary in the past when women couldn't support themselves. Nowadays, men have nothing valuable (rare, useful, can't be accomplished without him) to offer women. Men need to focus on not being more trouble than their worth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/18 02:35 PM |
| 18 | Q4Women: Are women the “gatekeepers” of sex? If so, why?Yes, biologically speaking. Females in general are the gatekeepers of sex. It's our job to weed out the genetically fit from the unfit. Yes to all of the questions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/18 02:28 PM |
| 1 | Why are men not allowed to be afraid of women?It's about feeling safe. What men and women have to do to feel safe are going to be different. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/18 02:23 PM |
| 1 | Why are men not allowed to be afraid of women?I give a shit about whatever matters more. One's reputation is low on the list. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/18 07:49 PM |
| 4 | Was beta rage one of the main cause for the increased level of violence in the 1970s?I'm going to be prose AF right now. The great depression was a bitch. The silent generation grew up during this time, coming of age just as WWI was ending and the country was flourishing. Keep in mind, before this time children weren't seen as they are now. They were born to do a job and it was perfectly legal to throw the kid out for not wanting to do it. They were retirement plans at best and slave labor at worst. So, the baby boomers are born, the majority of which to parents who probably did… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/18 06:30 PM |
| 3 | Why are men not allowed to be afraid of women?Everyone has the right to defend themselves. And further, a civic duty to defend the community from the same kind of violence that happened to them. We do defend against slander when appropriate. It's not appropriate to prioritize potential threats over demonstrable threats. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/18 06:09 PM |
| 2 | Why are men not allowed to be afraid of women?The problem is equating what men are afraid of, ostracism, with what women are afraid of, death. Staying alive takes priority over feeling accepted. Nothing is of higher priority than staying alive. Nothing. If men really wanted to use this argument in good faith they'd first have to have the right to a good reputation, which no one does. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/18 05:54 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: What would you do if you asked out a woman and she said to you: "I think we should be friends first" ?It is. It's deliberately unfair. The SMV is rigged very heavily against men. Well, males in general. It's better when men get left behind. If you want proof just consider that everyone you've ever known only exists, not despite the last generation of men being culled from the genome, but because of it. Bummer. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/18 02:22 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: What would you do if you asked out a woman and she said to you: "I think we should be friends first" ?That's only if she doesn't make herself clear. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/18 02:10 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: What would you do if you asked out a woman and she said to you: "I think we should be friends first" ?Hey man, this sub makes me feel the same way. I don't think a man will ever really want to see me, preferring I only reflect what he wants back at him. Any kind of relationship I'd want isn't possible with a man, and that really sucks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/18 02:08 PM |
| 2 | Q4Men: What would you do if you asked out a woman and she said to you: "I think we should be friends first" ?Women want to have confidence that grown men can handle their shit. That includes not needing a pat on the back for doing what they're supposed to do. But to answer your question directly, she won't take an interest because you're not her boyfriend. That kind of stuff is reserved for boyfriends. By agreeing to be friends first, she's determining whether you're worth taking an interest in. She does this because she probably has other options. If that bothers you, realize she's a woman. Men line u… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/18 06:48 AM |
| 1 | Q4Men: What would you do if you asked out a woman and she said to you: "I think we should be friends first" ?It's only rejection if the only thing you're after is sex, which will both take longer to achieve and have more opportunities for failure if there's a friendship phase. Understand, women value sex much less than men. It's practically inverted. If she's offering it on a silver platter it's because you're of no value to her at all. Seeing any other way just reinforces men's perpetual disposability. She knew 15 seconds after she first met him that she could fuck him. That automatically puts him in … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/18 06:02 AM |
| 2 | Q4Men: What would you do if you asked out a woman and she said to you: "I think we should be friends first" ?it's unreasonable to expect her to be an active, invested, enthusiastic friend who's always initiating contact with you and looking to spend time with you and be there for you and be a really great, genuine friend. That level of commitment is only appropriate in romantic relationships. And even then, it's asking a lot. Do you expect that because she's a woman, or do you expect the same from your male friends? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/18 05:03 AM |
| 5 | Does Alpha fucks/beta bucks ring true to you?It does if you think of sex as a reward. Men see women having guilt-free sex as unfair. Unfair to men in general, who want but can rarely get the same thing, and unfair to the good men who get less sex than the men she wouldn't want to marry. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/18 01:58 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: Nearly half of replacements for MeToo'ed men - are womenPretty much the same as it always was. Men will pursue women where they can, wherever that might be. And women will pursue relationships for recreation. Eventually, men will too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/18 01:34 AM |
| 0 | Why are women so afraid of judgement and being shamed?Let me explain: Five women are all set on completing a goal that require five different tasks. All will take on a specific task, but when each finishes, they help someone else with their task. This will go on with no one stopping until all tasks are completed. Without a hierarchy no one is above taking on every task. Soon, everyone is familiar enough to take over any task in the event someone is unable. Each member, even if finding themselves alone, will still be fine. The overall benefit from d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/18 08:42 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: Nearly half of replacements for MeToo'ed men - are womenRight! See? Not so bad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/18 06:17 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Would you tolerate your wife spending 4 hours a day at the gym, 5-6 days a week?I think it's cute that your wives actually listen to you. I just have to laugh because if my guy didn't tolerate my behavior he could try his luck tolerating the fucking sidewalk. There are plenty of fish in the sea. He can go find the girl more compatible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/18 03:37 PM |
| 4 | Why are women so afraid of judgement and being shamed?No, it's all working together towards a common goal. Now, if the goal is to ensure everything gets done as quickly as possible it saves time if more people choose to focus on one individual task. If five things need to be done, five people all completing a different one simultaneously. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/18 03:33 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: Nearly half of replacements for MeToo'ed men - are womenWhat changes the most are the precedents set. People that would do that sort of thing will think twice if they think getting caught will actually result in consequences. I think a change we might see is the end of dating culture and work culture having anything to do with one another. No more looking at coworkers as potential lays. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/18 03:22 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Women lie about the reason they don't like "nice guys".Women know within the first 15 seconds whether or not they'll sleep with a man. After that, he's done. Washed our hands of him. He's disqualified forever. It doesn't matter what he does now. He's someone else's problem. Now if he wants advice on how to meet other women, that's fine. Sure I could tell him that since I don't want to fuck him that obviously means he's unfuckable, but that's not true. Now, I'm not going to take any responsibility for his meeting women. Responsibility is only accepte… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/18 03:13 PM |
| 4 | Why are women so afraid of judgement and being shamed?There's a theory that women are the reason human's brains have the capacity they do. Because while the men hunted, women fished, which would've contributed more towards intelligence than game. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/18 02:54 PM |
| 5 | Why are women so afraid of judgement and being shamed?It's people all working together. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/18 02:49 PM |
| 8 | Why are women so afraid of judgement and being shamed?Humans are a successful species because our ability to communicate allows us to pass knowledge onto the next generation. We're not all constantly discovering fire because of that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/18 05:20 AM |
| 5 | Why are women so afraid of judgement and being shamed?During hunter-gatherer times, women were the reason there was enough food. While men hunted, women gathered, fished and farmed. Berries don't run away, so when men came home empty handed they didn't have to worry about starving. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/18 05:11 AM |
| 5 | Why are women so afraid of judgement and being shamed?We like for goals to be achieved sooner rather than later. Collaborative efforts get done faster. We get more happiness from having contributed to something great than getting all the credit for something mediocre. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/18 04:07 AM |
| 1 | Why are women so afraid of judgement and being shamed?One's community is important. The more people involved, the faster things get done. Conflict wastes time. Best not to create any, when possible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/18 03:43 AM |
| 1 | Q4BP: What desires do you believe women are predominately socially conditioned to have?Having children. We're given toy baby dolls to play with, for goodness sakes. I'm honestly not surprised girls get pregnant in their teens. Because it doesn't matter how horrible the situation is, everyone loves a baby. A teenage single mother has more societal value than a woman without kids and everyone knows it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/18 02:57 AM |
| 8 | CMV: Judgement from a woman's social circle is a bigger factor in dating an ugly guy than looksIt is a factor, if only to spare him from being bullied by her friends behind his back. Personality has a lot to do with it too as a boyfriend that doesn't get along with her friends will end with both of them being socially isolated. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/18 02:14 AM |
| 1 | Do you think our generation will be okay?Our generation can't fulfill our societal expectations because of the financial burdens of the time. We know we're supposed to go to college, get a job, get married and have kids, but we can't afford any of that stuff. I think plenty of this generation will sit and wait for the world to go back to the way it was. They won't know what to do with themselves, otherwise. The rest will find something else to focus their time and energy. Relationships and children will become solely for recreation. Of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/18 03:31 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Black Pillers accept some RP facts but have BP frameWhy would anyone want to be around people that don't want them around? Being rejected by the women they stayed away from before will somehow reduce their loneliness and frustration? WTF? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/18 03:04 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Black Pillers accept some RP facts but have BP frameExcuse me. What problem does having more access than they have now solve? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/18 05:08 AM |
| 1 | Do you think the secretly harmful message of masculinity given to men from elders, peers and society at large (fitting into their role as being a provider, etc) has made men in general more depressed or unaware of their true social status?Seeking help needs to be seen as a form of active self-care, like exercise, not a passive bid for charity. I agree. I wonder if men are capable of this. What? No. Women have nothing to do with it. Where have you gotten that impression? Men these days are looking to women specifically for emotional reassurance. Women that refuse, or can't be available whenever they need them for any reason, leave men feeling abandoned. I think that's the core of TRP. Social programs tend to have a very "feminine,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/18 04:32 PM |
| 2 | Do you think the secretly harmful message of masculinity given to men from elders, peers and society at large (fitting into their role as being a provider, etc) has made men in general more depressed or unaware of their true social status?None of this makes sense. Men need help but feel like they can't ask for it, are upset that no one is paying attention to them, but want to solve their own problems anyway, which they can, but don't because of women? What do these men want? And if they can get it themselves, what's the problem? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/18 03:17 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Black Pillers accept some RP facts but have BP frameDont have to, harassment is against the law. Justification is needed when none already exists. So, once again, what problem does men having unlimited access to women actually solve? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/18 03:03 PM |
| 2 | Masculinity, protection, and femininityCorrect. A self-sufficient man is the most valuable. Because if he can attend to his own needs, he doesn't risk impeding progress on any given endeavors. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/18 02:51 AM |
| 2 | Masculinity, protection, and femininityQ4All: Do you think the results of the study are an accurate reflection of why women prefer men taller than them? Does masculinity make women feel protected and secure and is the desire to feel protected and secure the fundamental reason why women desire masculine traits? Women have a desire to allocate their attention based on priority. Strong, capable men aren't going to take her attention away from caring for children, the elderly, or anyone who actually needs attention. She won't necessarily… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/18 11:05 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Why do you think toxic masculinity is a thing, but toxic femininity isn't a thing?They're held accountable for it. It does happen, though not that often. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/18 10:35 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Black Pillers accept some RP facts but have BP frameUnfortunately, it's unrealistic to expect feminists to not always have a hand in policing men in this area... Well yeah, women are going to have something to say about being set upon by a bunch of eager achieving men sent by a complacent society. And this all begs the question, why?? Men need to be able to justify why they need accommodation. They need to act like lawyers and build a case. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/18 03:51 PM |
| 6 | [CMV] Feminism is the result, NOT the cause of disdain for femininityWith everything she misses out on making her own money, and how being absent from the workforce will effect her ability to make money in the future, it's not worth it. It's having control over money that's not hers Even half isn't worth it. It's a clear net loss that doesn't make sense, especially these days. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/18 06:52 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Black Pillers accept some RP facts but have BP frameMost everyone misses that point by a mile and prefers to shame, ostracize and ignore struggling men instead, which then leaves them susceptible to the toxicity that is incel culture. But what can help these men that won't mean restricting women? Would these men prefer an audience who's hands are tied when it comes to entertaining their plight? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/18 06:34 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Black Pillers accept some RP facts but have BP frameYou have a point, blue pills do dismiss black pills calls for equality. But what they're asking for is at odds with women's right to autonomy at a time when they're fully integrated into the workforce. So we have to ask ourselves, can we justify why we need to take women's autonomy, and risk our increasingly productive economy, for these men? What is it that they can only get from a LTRs with women? What are the long-term effects of living without what they're missing? Are there alternative meth… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/18 03:41 AM |
| 5 | [CMV] Feminism is the result, NOT the cause of disdain for femininityShe gets paid for her work at a job, at a rate that can't dip below a certain amount by law, and can be negotiated. While in a marriage she's guaranteed what her husband feels like giving her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/18 03:05 AM |
| 1 | Do you think the secretly harmful message of masculinity given to men from elders, peers and society at large (fitting into their role as being a provider, etc) has made men in general more depressed or unaware of their true social status?How we teach boys that showing any emotion besides anger makes them look weak. And we wonder most violent crimes are committed by men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/18 12:28 AM |
| 0 | Do you think the secretly harmful message of masculinity given to men from elders, peers and society at large (fitting into their role as being a provider, etc) has made men in general more depressed or unaware of their true social status?It’s completely unhelpful to criticize a person’s gender identity in a blanket way like that. Plenty of men like adhering to their gender norm, just as plenty of women like adhering to theirs. If that norm is found out to be unhelpful, harmful to yourself or others, or outlawed, you're refusal/inability to give it up makes you a menace. In cases like that the majority will do what's in their best interests and ostracize. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/18 10:47 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Why do you think toxic masculinity is a thing, but toxic femininity isn't a thing?Toxic femininity usually involves some sort of harm women do to themselves. Like eating disorders, body mutilation, and so on. Oftentimes those things happen behind closed doors, making it so those affected have to want to get better before they seek help. The only way to help them is to make help available, but expect that most will have to reach rock bottom before they seek it. Toxic masculinity is similar except the harm, physical or otherwise, is usually directed at other people. They also h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/18 06:15 PM |
| 0 | Q4W: Why do you think toxic masculinity is a thing, but toxic femininity isn't a thing?Shouldn't you, though? If someone has harmed you and has the potential to harm others, and you do nothing, aren't you just as culpable for their crimes as they are? Further, we're accepting people that are dumping their responsibilities on others without remorse. The acceptance we give them would most certainly not be reciprocated. All we're then doing is telling them to keep doing it, then blame their victims because we just don't know how to get the abusers to stop. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/18 03:39 PM |
| -1 | Q4M: What are the common problems you've run into with women in LTRs?can I talk to you about ideas and current events? If it's just gossip get out. The way I see it, gossip are the most relevant type of current events there are. It's probably about people you know doing things that might have an effect on your life in the future. What's happening in another country or in politics is important, but you need to know your own backyard first. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/18 03:18 AM |
| 14 | Female privileageEverything listed is because of men's attraction to women. Men treat women better because they want them to like them. Men choose to work dangerous jobs, because they're high paying, to attract women. Men exhaust themselves in the pursuit of women. And it's men that equate their value with the number of women that give them attention. What you fail to mention is that this is so regardless of whether women wanted men to do anything, or were even aware that it was on their behalf. His sex-drive is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/18 02:55 AM |
| 1 | Feminism is great for menWe have no control over how our tax dollars are spent. This is completely irrelevant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/18 10:35 PM |
| 2 | Feminism is great for menA means to what? Women don't need men for anything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/18 08:47 PM |
| 5 | Having low emotional intelligence is not the same as being “rational and objective”But that means women become responsible for men's and their own behavior. That shifts accountability for just about everything to her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/18 06:40 PM |
| 4 | Having low emotional intelligence is not the same as being “rational and objective”Men's actions are their own responsibility. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/18 04:46 PM |
| 3 | Late night thought.. the biggest issue on here is lack of empathy.That's only if you think getting married to a man is refusing to work hard. Getting married and having kids guarantees a net loss, so if it really were about money she'd be better off focusing on a career. Obviously, and not just because it hasn't been necessary since Title IX, women don't marry men for money anymore. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/18 04:13 PM |
| 3 | Feminism is great for menWomen don't value sex as much as men do. What men see as a reward, women see as meaningless. With that perspective it makes perfect sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/18 03:55 PM |
| 6 | Having low emotional intelligence is not the same as being “rational and objective”No one has suffered more at the hands of emotionally stunted men than women. We've done our time. We don't teach men anything. They assume that whatever gets them laid is what women want them to do. Not understanding that the only thing we'd want the kinds of men we'd have emotionless sex with to do is go away. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/18 02:23 PM |
| 5 | Having low emotional intelligence is not the same as being “rational and objective”Hm. Then unlearn it. Take responsibility. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/18 01:56 PM |
| 2 | Having low emotional intelligence is not the same as being “rational and objective”Well, you would. You'd be living how you would had it not been for the social conditioning. You'd be a free-range man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/18 01:38 PM |
| 20 | Having low emotional intelligence is not the same as being “rational and objective”Men in the west are taught that emotions are weakness. That's why they never learned, they each developed their own defense mechanisms from feeling them at an early age. They're capable of undoing that programming, but the majority refuse as the process requires dealing with repressed emotions they'd rather not confront. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/18 08:33 PM |
| 1 | Why is insecurity NOT a kiss-of-death trait for a woman?You can't help someone that doesn't know how to help themselves. It's the difference between someone that can be helped and someone that can't. Someone that can learn, but refuses, is a lost cause. Entertaining them is enabling them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/18 05:08 AM |
| 1 | Why is insecurity NOT a kiss-of-death trait for a woman?Emotions can be crushing, but feeling their full impact is how you process them. The point is to be able to make yourself feel better without external means. Once you can, it's fine to still seek out and accept support. It's the difference between a person that can walk getting hurt and needing crutches, and a person using crutches because they never learned to walk. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/18 04:03 PM |
| 1 | Why is insecurity NOT a kiss-of-death trait for a woman?She hates a man that crumbles under pressure and needs her for reassurance. Keyword being need, because he's too emotionally stunted to reassure himself. Hate is a strong word, it's more like frustration. He's capable of learning how to cope but he has to want to do it. If he doesn't, he'll end up using others as a crutch, then will probably hold it against them whenever they're too busy living their own lives to be his security blanket. Too much of this and he'll end up alone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/18 05:22 AM |
| 3 | One metric as to how women value men.But that doesn't make sense if women don't need to rely on men for support. They stand to lose more going that route. If you don't mean exploitation, as in giving what an other values and not receiving what you value in return, what do you mean? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/18 03:37 PM |
| 1 | Why is insecurity NOT a kiss-of-death trait for a woman?We don't think helplessness is weakness, but we know men do, so we use it as a bludgeon. We can't fight back against men physically so we use the emotions. Cuts and bruises heal, but emotional scars cut so much deeper. The deeper the cuts, the less likely offenders will think to offend again. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/18 03:27 PM |
| 3 | One metric as to how women value men.We're not going to see eye to eye on this because of your insistence that women will want to have limitless sex with men they value. I never said anything about sex. Women don't value sex. If that's what you consider being used, acting like a valued partner without being given unlimited access to hedonistic pleasures, you're not a compassionate man, you're just acting like one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/18 03:14 PM |
| 3 | Why is insecurity NOT a kiss-of-death trait for a woman?Men and women feel differently when it comes to asking for help. Men see it as having given up in favor of having someone do it for them. Women don't see it that way. They're looking for the path of least resistance for solving the problem. Asking for help is just a means to an end. Oftentimes, she's just looking for a point in the right direction with every intention of completing everything herself. In the same vein, when a woman is feeling insecure she might seek support, but won't necessaril… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/18 08:18 AM |
| 1 | Modern Relationships are exhausting because today everything is a negotiation.True, but even if they hadn't been, men would still adhere to them. We have to assume that perhaps the worst atrocities in history are also due to this fear. At the end of the day, it's better to be adaptable than not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/18 06:24 AM |
| 6 | Modern Relationships are exhausting because today everything is a negotiation.Women are better at what you're describing. I'm on mobile, but a study was done that proves it: The latest findings reveal that while women are more likely to accept change in order to reach a goal, being forced to accept the fact that their system failed makes men flustered, which is why men will often rigidly stick to their original "system" even though it has clearly led them astray. when men were shown a picture of a house with a low sun beside it, they struggled to tell whether the sun was … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/18 05:04 AM |
| 4 | One metric as to how women value men.How so? The lowest value males don't mate, ensuring the next generation will be stronger than the last. That's the way it's supposed to be. The result will be that the next generation will be raised by caring fathers that women will adore, creating loving environments. That means fewer pathological people. The need for service positions we'll need in the future will be ideal for the compassionate. Meanwhile, the next generation of incels will never be born. They'll suffer no broken homes, no psy… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/18 04:13 AM |
| 5 | One metric as to how women value men.A compassionate man is less likely to do the sorts of things that would make a woman think her intimacy is being taken advantage of. He can turn her on, give her the tingles and all of that, but if he thinks that'll mean she'll want it as often as he does, he might be fooling himself. Very few women are up for that, and ones that do would rather be on the carousel than a man's arm. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/18 02:07 AM |
| 4 | One metric as to how women value men.Women don't value sex as much as men do. You're projecting you're own drive into women. That is so demonstrably not how women work. It's possible that some women have a higher sex drive than others, but having it be anywhere near it would be an anomaly. Is it that hard to imagine? Basically, it's like the way you feel after an orgasm a good majority of the time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/18 09:55 PM |
| 3 | One metric as to how women value men."Compassion" is neutral, IMO. I've been compassionate and caring, and it has NEVER gotten me laid. It's not a sexually attractive trait. I never said anything about men getting laid. I said women value compassion for companionship and the potential for being good fathers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/18 09:40 PM |
| 3 | One metric as to how women value men.And then once you make your choice, stop your bitching about it, lie in the bed you made, and deal with it. I can't help but ask why? Why should any woman? What you would require from women isn't an easy ask. So tell me, can men justify why they need women to treat them the way you describe? What happens to men physically, emotionally, financially, and so on when they don't have access to women? And would those effects have enough impact to justify women needing to willingly submit? Keep in mind… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/18 05:44 PM |
| 8 | One metric as to how women value men.an obsession with victimization plus an irrational hatred of low value men plus some weird pseudo mathematical "explanation" ? This better describes TRP. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/18 05:58 AM |
| 2 | One metric as to how women value men.In ordinary circumstances, yes. But considering what's been observed consistently by those who have come into contact with Trump, the circumstances are anything but. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/18 05:53 AM |
| 7 | One metric as to how women value men.Notice how she tends to spend a great deal of time away from him? She's obviously able to tolerate his behavior better than most, but that might be because she gets frequent breaks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/18 05:31 AM |
| 7 | Q4Women: If your man had sex with you in your sleep (and effectively raped you) would you break up with him?I would break up with him. Agreeing to a relationship with him isn't giving him the right to my body. A person's body is always their's, and consent must always be given, even when they're asleep. There's also the fact that he's treating her like an object. Literally. Objects are things you use however you want without worrying about whether they consent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/18 10:26 PM |
| 1 | An observation on the difference between how men and women empathize:Ok, so accusing her of a lack of empathy is just a distraction? So she won't be able to consider how her husband doesn't care about her? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/18 04:56 PM |
| 1 | An observation on the difference between how men and women empathize:If we know that's true, then why do men bother arguing any differently? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/18 04:53 PM |
| 2 | An observation on the difference between how men and women empathize:you should take the gamble on the $$, if you loved your husband you would. I wouldn't assume that his life would be better with a bunch of stolen money. If I really want to know for sure I can discuss it with him. Empathy is the ability to imagine how other's emotions might be in certain circumstances. I wouldn't rob the bank if I didn't know for sure how my husband would feel. His emotions are completely different than mine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/18 04:51 PM |
| 3 | An observation on the difference between how men and women empathize:Or that men project their own lack of empathy on others? This. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/18 04:44 PM |
| 3 | An observation on the difference between how men and women empathize:Care to elaborate? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/18 03:46 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Most men see themselves as being in the top 20%I think this is where the entire, "women are dumb" stereotype comes from. Because if she's smart, she's capable of making sound decisions. The only way for men to reconcile being rejected while still maintaining their self image is if she has a problem that makes it difficult for her to see the obvious. It's hard to know for sure, though. Do men do this as a way to convince themselves, to keep from feeling less than? Or do they want to convince others women are less than, to then justify why it'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/18 01:09 PM |
| 2 | [Q4ALL] Would you love your kids or your partner more?Yes. My parents were both pathological. I remember that at a young age, around four, I realized I wasn't safe with them. But they were all I had. I'd die without them. I came to the conclusion that to be safe I had to comply completely. Because of that, I never learned to act of my own free will, only looking for other's social cues for what was acceptable behavior. I realized that wasn't healthy a few years ago and have been trying to get past it ever since. I don't have any children. I'm not 1… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/18 12:52 PM |
| 3 | [Q4ALL] Would you love your kids or your partner more?What does that matter? Everything I've said is just attachment theory. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/18 08:54 PM |
| 15 | [Q4ALL] Would you love your kids or your partner more?The formative years are crucial. Children need to feel safe during that time, or else they come up with other more pervasive ways to feel safe. Most pathologies develop during this time. Yes, children do need to learn to make it on their own, but not during the formative years. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/18 06:53 AM |
| 17 | [Q4ALL] Would you love your kids or your partner more?During the formative years, kids need all of the attention from both parents. Denying them that will scar them for their entire lives. After that attention can be allocated towards others, within reason. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/18 04:46 AM |
| 3 | What are the silent killers of relationships?Society, and it's portrayal of romantic relationships as a necessity for happiness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/18 03:39 AM |
| 1 | Wide partisan gap on whether it’s good or bad that society looks up to masculine menQ4All: Does society look up to men who are manly or more masculine and to women who are more feminine? I think, just looking at the numbers from the OP, that more people look down on masculine men than feminine women. Assuming they're not just brainwashed by the media means the logical reason is that more people have found something they don't like about masculinity compared to femininity. It also seems that a significant percentage of people don't look up to anyone. I don't. Q4All: Is that a go… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/18 09:03 PM |
| 3 | Respect not sought but givenWhat's wrong with that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/18 04:13 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Do you think a guy becomes more attractive if you find out he is taken?If I'm looking for a guy I can discard without much resistance, a guy in a relationship is the safer option. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/18 06:59 AM |
| 8 | Q4All: Can we please ditch the concept of "true love"?Are you saying that it's impossible to value anything unless it's the best of all the other things? I know for a fact that my mom isn't the best in the world, yet I love her. My dog didn't know even one command, yet I still loved him. And by love, I mean I'm grateful for their presence in my life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/18 06:22 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: Would you be happy if your partner/SO/husband did not find you sexy or hot but had just settled for you?I know for a fact that any man I'm with is with me because I'm in his vicinity. Of course there's probably another woman somewhere that would be a better match, but he doesn't know she exists, so she might as well not. I'd only be confident if he'd met every woman on Earth and had come to the conclusion that I'm the best of them all. That's impossible, so I to accept that I have absolutely been settled for. My friends settled for me. My parents settled for me. My dog settled for me. It hasn't in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/18 05:17 AM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: do you support opt-in, incentivized sterilization programs?What problem does this solve? Who benefits the most? Who stands to lose the most? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/18 04:57 AM |
| 1 | Is TRP really a guide on how to emotionally manipulate women?Yes, and I don't agree with those either. They're not what this discussion is about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/18 04:05 AM |
| 1 | Is TRP really a guide on how to emotionally manipulate women?The difference is that women don't hide who they are. They make their intentions known from the start and give men a choice. Yes, that might be disingenuous as men's sex drives make walking away more of a struggle than it would be for a woman, but that's not her fault. His actions aren't anyone's responsibility but his own. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/18 03:27 AM |
| 1 | Q4RP: When she loses attraction due to your behavior, is there any way to ever gain it back?Explain your thought process. You can usually come back if you didn't mean any ill intent. If you considered how that would effect her and did it anyway, that's different. But really, if you don't plan on changing the behavior, walk away. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/18 01:58 AM |
| 5 | Q4W: Would you have casual sex with a virgin man?I have, actually. It made me feel like crap. It just seemed wrong. His first time should be with someone that sees him for more than a penis with legs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/18 01:50 AM |
| 2 | Is TRP really a guide on how to emotionally manipulate women?The internet hard men are silly and annoying, but I don't actually think most of them are a danger to any laydees. The ones that are are almost always the ones no one ever expects. Physical danger, maybe. But it can't be denied that those men have every intention to taking what they want while giving nothing back. Their actions are driven out of malice, all for a non-essential asset they can get without manipulating anyone. Call a spade a spade. People that see no problem with doing that are bad… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/18 06:06 PM |
| 2 | Is TRP really a guide on how to emotionally manipulate women?I agree. However, I don't know why women wouldn't take offense that you are pretty much calling them helpless in this situation. They don't want so much to have their emotions validated as want some sort of justice. Being vocal is how you ensure that kind of thing can't happen to anyone else. Who says it is irrelevant, what's important is looking at what was done to them. As I said, they are taking notes from feminists. Feminists clearly have the same ire for men because they are deemed dysfunct… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/18 04:43 PM |
| 2 | Is TRP really a guide on how to emotionally manipulate women?It's true, normal people can't become narcissistic. BUT. Anyone can employ dark triad tendencies to get what they want. They're effective, and can carry a person as far forward as their internal moral compass allows. In other words, narcissism is a hell of a drug, and RP has refined and packaged it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/18 03:37 PM |
| 0 | Is TRP really a guide on how to emotionally manipulate women?I do my best posting when totally trashed. Not like right now, though. Just to clarify. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/18 06:07 AM |
| 0 | Is TRP really a guide on how to emotionally manipulate women?Firsthand experience. If you're not familiar with malignant narcissism, check out r/raisedbynarcissists and read what these kinds of people do to their own children completely without remorse. More importantly, read what their children say about them and understand that going down the TRP path leads to how your community will view you one day. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/18 06:05 AM |
| 6 | Hypergamy is misunderstood, which is a shame because it is a useful way of understanding relationshipsNo, it's the same for both. Women consider how men will effect their goals before starting relationships. Men tend to automatically dismiss women's goals, believing that she should abandon her own and help him achieve his. Women want to support men in achieving their goals, but need to see efforts to reciprocate that support. Women only ask that if men can't help her achieve her own, then return the courtesy by at least getting out of her way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/18 06:23 PM |
| 5 | Hypergamy is misunderstood, which is a shame because it is a useful way of understanding relationshipsMen don't require their partners to have high status, women do. Let me just clarify, status means something different for men and women. Men think of status more like fame. Like peacocks, getting more attention than the next guy ensures his chances of mating are higher. Women are goal oriented. The goals we have exist before starting relationships and persist when they're over. No matter if we're in a relationship or who it's with, it's coordinated with that goal in mind. Men are either necessar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/18 03:14 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: For those that disagree with red pill theories, what is it that you think makes men turn to them?No, that's called attachment theory. It's good stuff. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/18 02:19 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: For those that disagree with red pill theories, what is it that you think makes men turn to them?TRP can't work if you can still empathize with women. They fix that by framing them as sub-human beings, then justifies their interest in them as an act of aggressive kindness. TRP doesn't want to empathize with women as doing so means the end of their self-esteem as they know it. Because if a competent adult rejects you, that rejection can't be written off as their shortsightedness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/18 01:46 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: For those that disagree with red pill theories, what is it that you think makes men turn to them?Men see success with women as a measure of their worth. When women won't pay attention to them it challenges their sense of self. This is considered trauma, as trauma is defined as encountering anything that challenges one's worldview. Men are less capable of processing emotions, leading to default defense mechanisms to protect their identity as fiercely as they'd protect their own lives. TRP benefits men most in that first and foremost, it both acknowledges and excuses all men's behavior by inc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/18 06:17 AM |
| 3 | Of 27 Deadliest Mass Shooters, 26 of Them Were FatherlessQ4All: Do you believe contemporary feminists fail to provide a counter-narrative to the feminists of past (regarding marriage)? I think the issue is too complicated to prescribe only one option as the one true solution. The ultimate solution is that good parents make for good childhoods, which is possible outside of the nuclear family model. Q4All: Are the consequences of paternal absenteeism silenced in an effort to remain inclusive? How do we stop men from leaving their families without infrin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/18 02:31 AM |
| 1 | The anger behind the betabux paradigmBefore we can have conversations about this paradigm men need to understand something important. Women don't see sex as a reward. So what men interpret as low value men receiving rewards for nothing, women see as the lowest value sex with low value men. What men are fighting for in the streets, women toss out in the trash. This fact alone is what makes the male dual mating strategy a rarity. The vast majority of men don't have the value to pull it off and everyone knows it. That's why it's shame… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/18 06:32 AM |
| 1 | Why are women so worried about the food their kids eat and don't give a shit about if they have a father in their life.A father does not a happy childhood make. Really, the best case scenario would be for the child to stop existing. That way, they don't have to suffer for their parent's mistake of ever getting together in the first place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/18 06:09 AM |
| 2 | Do women really prefer older men or it is that men prefer younger women? Or a combination of both?The amount of young women that prefer older men is about the same as young men that prefer older women. It does happen, maybe more than we think, but the numbers aren't significant. Men would be more attracted to younger women, if only because he figured he wouldn't need to work as hard to impress her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/18 02:15 PM |
| 1 | Women who commit paternity fraud should go to jailA pile of dead men is always going to be preferable to suffering children. I think that if men really want anything done they need to justify why they need support more than a child. At some point you'd have to realize that you pay for the care of men's bastards everyday with taxes. So what the hell do you want?? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/18 01:34 PM |
| 1 | [Serious] Men of this sub: What's your type?The male equivalent to cup size is butt size and shape. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/18 03:06 AM |
| 1 | Females: rate himHe looks sleepy. In certain light he'd look like a serial killer. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/18 02:58 AM |
| 1 | Q4W, if you were a man how would you go about obtaining a large number of casual sexual partners?I'd be a chubby chaser. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/18 02:44 AM |
| 1 | Women who commit paternity fraud should go to jailAnd the rest of society is just going to do nothing as men thrust their responsibility onto it for the sake of insolence? We don't put up with that kind of thing now. True justice would be putting support-dodgers in prison and having a percentage of the revenue earned from them being there go to supporting his children. Honestly, if we're going to talk about punishment for false paternity, we need to also talk about penalties for erroneous claims. The consequences of what comes out of the sex-li… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/18 05:41 PM |
| 3 | Why aren't feminists encouraging women to marry SAHFs?I should also add that they would do well to shut up. They're eventually going to get a smack on the butt if they keep annoying people. A societal smack on the butt. Not something easily recovered from. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/18 02:56 PM |
| 1 | Men feel controlled by women because without them, they'd have no reason to control themselves.They're an extreme expression of gender dynamics. And what do you know, they're at odds. Imagine that. Feminists are forever working to clean up the damage left over from before women's rights. MRA's attempt to hijack the narrative to make themselves look like victims. That sounds so familiar... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/18 02:52 PM |
| 2 | Why aren't feminists encouraging women to marry SAHFs?Because no one cares how desperate men are to get married. Any actions taken by feminists might result in that, but it won't be intentional. Single men aren't a priority in the slightest. Not only does their problem pale in comparison to just about any random dilemma one can have, there's no help for them. At least, there's no justification as to why their plight deserves attention at all. Their numbers are too few. The urgency is non-existent. The men effected are too inconsequential. No help i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/18 02:46 PM |
| 1 | Men feel controlled by women because without them, they'd have no reason to control themselves.It's both relevant and meaningful, but studying it with intent to change it? Absurd. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/18 02:31 PM |
| 1 | Women who commit paternity fraud should go to jailMen that don't want to go through that are free not to have children. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/18 02:24 PM |
| 1 | Men feel controlled by women because without them, they'd have no reason to control themselves.And if you don't want to discuss social control through informal means like custom and pressure, well fine, It's not worth discussing. You don't dictate society, it dictates you. Stray from the path and you'll suffer consequences. There's no reconciling this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/18 08:17 AM |
| 1 | Men feel controlled by women because without them, they'd have no reason to control themselves.The reaction to MGTOW is evidence that you're wrong; most women know the power they wield and will not give it up. If this is really so, men are still accountable for their own actions. They don't have to react to what others say. They don't have to do what women say. This takes power away from women that would abuse that power as well as removes the onus of responsibility from women who don't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/18 05:37 AM |
| 1 | Women who commit paternity fraud should go to jailThe whole point of family court is that when children are involved, their best interests take priority. Mandatory paternity tests will only lead to worse outcomes for children. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/18 04:05 AM |
| 2 | What have you learned during the purge so far?I learned how much everyone hates you. Or rather, I learned I'm not alone. This has been the best purge week ever!! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/18 03:14 AM |
| 1 | Men feel controlled by women because without them, they'd have no reason to control themselves.When women are around, men change how they act. They don't do it out of spite, they do it because they've been told to do it, because women have a kind of power over them (the power to regulate and revoke their "real manhood" status), because women use this power, and because men know they are expected to be good and chivalrous around women. If women are demanding that men behave certain ways it's not out of a need to control. Women behave about the same regardless of whether men are around. Not… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/18 02:54 AM |
| 1 | Men feel controlled by women because without them, they'd have no reason to control themselves.I'll tell you why men feel controlled by women. Because society expects men to be on their best behavior around women. And women demand this. Ah, I think I see what's going on here, but it's hard to put into words. Men feel like they have an audience. The audience informs their decisions. Women don't want to be apart of men's audiences. Women want men to behave as though they're not being watched. Women assume men would continue acting about the same. Apparently, men know something women don't. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/18 05:19 PM |
| 0 | Men feel controlled by women because without them, they'd have no reason to control themselves.men are responsible for ensuring women are comfortable with what’s happening, and women bear no responsibility for directly communicating any discomfort—men are simply expected to know This is called having empathy. and child support for children the fathers never consented to having And this is called having compassion. That's right, women expect to be treated as they treat others. Because maybe you might not know this, but the kind of person that can't understand that, or refuses, are exhausti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/18 04:37 PM |
| 2 | Men feel controlled by women because without them, they'd have no reason to control themselves.Cunty, overly masculine women get triggered by this 'submission' thing because they can't imagine being pleasant and receptive as a baseline. You do realize what you're asking for, right? For women to conform to what a man would want as a sign of gratitude? But that gratitude is expected in exchange for controlling himself for her sake. He wants control in exchange for being controlled. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/18 06:35 AM |
| 4 | Men feel controlled by women because without them, they'd have no reason to control themselves.Call it whatever you like, it's something men expect in exchange for the control women have over them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/18 05:38 AM |
| 1 | Men feel controlled by women because without them, they'd have no reason to control themselves.I mean pay, as in, in what's valuable to men, being feminine. Which boils down to being submissive, giving him control. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/18 05:14 AM |
| 1 | Red pilled womenWhat men are really asking for is control. Without it, they feel vulnerable. The thing is women don't want control over men, much preferring that men control themselves as they do. But men only feel the need to control themselves because of women. This leads to a dilemma. Should women be held accountable for what they have no control over? Should men have to reconcile feeling powerless? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/18 02:09 AM |
| 3 | Men, what is your idea woman?That's a sign of codependency. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/18 07:05 PM |
| 3 | Men, what is your idea woman?A woman that aspires to be her man's version of the ideal woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/18 05:37 PM |
| 1 | Do women always lose attraction?Let's say a man and a woman both do something wrong. The punishment for both is no sex for 5 years. That punishment is going to be harder on the man specifically because he's a man. If you're saying that women should then have ten years to make it fair, it's no different than giving her five years for having a lower sex drive. Five years punishment for being born a woman. This is no different. Women have inherent coping skills men don't. We shouldn't have to take responsibility when we've done n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/18 05:22 PM |
| 1 | Women owe everything to menIf you save the planet because you want something for it, you're an asshole. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/18 04:56 PM |
| 2 | Women owe everything to menWomen would be content to let them stay there. We're capable of surviving on our own. The trouble men go through is their own doing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/18 04:55 PM |
| 6 | Women owe everything to menMen didn't do those things for women. Why should women be thankful for something that wasn't created with them in mind, and didn't even ask for? And it's not like any of those men don't owe women for a good chunk of their wealth, or the fact that what they did for women is the only reason we even know those guy's names. Edit: typo | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/18 06:09 AM |
| 5 | Toxic masculinity only exists because women sexually select for those traits. If they stopped it would disappear overnight.You're right, they did, in times those traits would've been valuable. Now they're not. Now those traits make men more trouble than they're worth, which amounts to luxury item status. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/18 03:40 PM |
| 2 | Fuck you Red Pillers: from, a subby cuck dudeEat sand and choke on it, you closeminded patriarchal motherfuckers. Everyone thinks you’re poison. My nomination for quote of the day. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/18 08:18 AM |
| 4 | CMV: Men stay abusive relationships because of a scarcity mentality, while for women it's because they're attracted to the abuser.Abusers put great effort into making sure their victims can't get away. They isolate them. They're kind to outsiders so victims won't be believed if they ask for help. They interfere with anything with the potential to make oneself independent. Both men and women are attracted to abusers, likely due to having caregivers that were abusive in the same way. It's familiar, like how soldiers suffering with PTSD will want to go back into battle. They don't feel comfortable anywhere else. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/18 08:10 AM |
| 1 | All the women on here are probably ugly so they should not be listened to for dating/attraction mattersI've gotten laid far more times than a looks match, that's for damn sure! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/18 06:10 AM |
| 1 | [CMV] Women have very little variation regarding their preferences in menWomen prioritize behavior first. No man is ever just tall or fat. If I'm attracted to skinny guys I'm not going to overlook any red flags just based on attraction alone. That's probably another big difference between men and women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/18 05:59 AM |
| 4 | Most women are completely aware of the power their sexuality holds.It's men's fault for being so easily manipulated. Take some damn responsibility. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/18 05:09 AM |
| 3 | Do you think incels, trp, and mgtow guys wouldn’t have this angry need to belong to a “movement” if they had just been given music lessons as children?I think most were just on the tit too long as children. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/18 05:06 AM |
| 1 | CMV: The destruction of the family is intricately tied to a rise in multiculturalismThis can also be considered a historical bottleneck in which overly tribalistic people end up less successful in the future. It was a helpful survival trait during hunter-gatherer times, but not so much in a society. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/18 05:04 AM |
| 1 | I think its acceptable for a man to do whatever he has to in order to get laid.If women changed to the pursuers of men, men would hate how less often women would even want to go though the effort. Whatever men are going through without women, it's just not going to be the same as it is with women without men. Would men's grand scheme work if women don't miss them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/18 04:51 AM |
| 2 | Q4W: What effect did having Chad's veiny cock cum inside of you have on your overall view of dating?They wouldn't be held back by any sentimental feelings in the event they had to hurt Chad to defend themselves. You can fight dirty with the gloves off. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/18 12:12 AM |
| 5 | Q4W: What effect did having Chad's veiny cock cum inside of you have on your overall view of dating?It was about the same as every other sexual experience, because I'm a woman and you're probably incapable of understanding how little value sex has to women. My Chad meant as much to me as his cock, nothing. I don't even remember his name. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/18 12:05 AM |
| 1 | Do women always lose attraction?So, you're saying that if women aren't reacting the same as a man would, it has to be because they're deliberately doing less? And therefore, are guilty of not taking responsibility? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/18 12:01 AM |
| 1 | Do women always lose attraction?There's three uses of responsibility. Having authority, taking blame, and acting independently. I get the idea of wanting someone to take responsibility, but if you're using it in terms of blame, I don't see how that's effective. Men in the same position will have social consequences that just don't apply to women. When we get fired we don't feel like failures, we go out and get another job. Women have better coping skills. We can't have the giant fragile egos men have. What do we have to take r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/18 08:35 PM |
| 1 | Why cant women just shut up and give us the pussy?We've got better things to do. Y'know, there are women that will trade money in exchange for sex? They're a thing. I will gladly take you to the nearest one of it means that I can get back to what I was doing before my attention was diverted to the raging forest fire of a problem called this guy's dick is dry. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/18 07:21 PM |
| 2 | I think its acceptable for a man to do whatever he has to in order to get laid.Men looked to media as a means for help with women. But media was never meant for that. It was always about telling a compelling story in the interest of making money. Men didn't get lied to, they misunderstood and are throwing tantrums over life not actually working that way. It's like when kids find out there's no Santa. They can be upset, but they've got to accept that no recourse is coming, mourn, and decide how to live in a world different than what they expected. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/18 07:16 PM |
| 0 | Reminder that Atlas_B_Shruggin married a convicted felon who went to prison for wife beating. Literally no one should care about her opinions re: relationshipsThe actions of accusers don't dismiss the crimes of others. If it did, you'd be able to just do whatever you wanted while you wait for a completely pious person to show up and tell you to stop instead of just stopping like you can at any time. Wouldn't want that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/18 07:03 PM |
| 1 | CMV: All you BP SJW women would throw up Nazi salutes if you were born in 1920s GermanyIt doesn't take a genius to understand that femininity is obviously less advantageous. TRP is an entire ideology centered on refusing to submit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/18 06:58 PM |
| 1 | Women of PPD act like their takes on the SMP are extra valid because they have SOs. Reminder: as a white woman in America, getting a SO is literally the easiest thing you will ever do in your lifeI mean in general. I'm not saying men are completely useless. They're a lot like floppy discs in that the utility is gone, but having one would be nice if not for the novelty. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/18 06:54 PM |
| 1 | Women of PPD act like their takes on the SMP are extra valid because they have SOs. Reminder: as a white woman in America, getting a SO is literally the easiest thing you will ever do in your lifeI mean in general. I'm not saying men are completely useless. They're a lot like floppy discs in that the utility is gone, but having one would be nice if not for the novelty. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/18 06:54 PM |
| 1 | Women of PPD act like their takes on the SMP are extra valid because they have SOs. Reminder: as a white woman in America, getting a SO is literally the easiest thing you will ever do in your lifeIt is. In the SMP, they're millionaires and men are floppy disc salesmen. She who has the gold makes the rules. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/18 03:50 PM |
| 3 | MEN! Stop entertaining Feminists and Liberal WomenYeah, but there are so much fewer conservative women. Or rather, so many smart women. For men to believe women are stupid, what does it say about them, who are having such a hard time finding a woman that buys into their bullshit? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/18 03:48 PM |
| 0 | MEN: provide irrefutable evidence that you need sex to live.Not necessary, but definitely prioritized. What has the potential to kill you always gets priority over what doesn't. So you're not wrong, but there are starving, homeless men that actually need real help right now, of which a lack of sex is the least of their problems. I'd be a monster if I didn't prioritize life over mere pleasures. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/18 03:41 PM |
| 1 | MEN: provide irrefutable evidence that you need sex to live.You don't need balls. You don't need a lot of things now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/18 09:35 AM |
| 1 | Was John Lennon Alpha?Well, he was abusive to his first wife, left her and his son with nothing and ran off with Yoko Ono. If that's not red pill.. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/18 06:59 AM |
| 1 | MEN: provide irrefutable evidence that you need sex to live.What kind of rat bastard would condemn an innocent to distract a potential tyrant to save his own skin? We should get in the business of punishing abusers, not their victims. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/18 04:42 AM |
| 5 | MEN: provide irrefutable evidence that you need sex to live.I should keep this article to show to men who complain that they need sex. And then shake their hands. Menacingly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/18 04:36 AM |
| 2 | My husband is abusing me by making me leave the house to go to a social function.Order delivery! Lol!!! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/18 04:33 AM |
| 3 | MEN: provide irrefutable evidence that you need sex to live.The article states non-sexual touch is fine. So shake somebody's hand or something. You know, if a handshake took an indefinite amount of time and effort like sex, you'd have a hard time getting that too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/18 04:32 AM |
| 1 | MEN: provide irrefutable evidence that you need sex to live.To hell with them. Let's weed out the crazies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/18 04:28 AM |
| 3 | MEN: provide irrefutable evidence that you need sex to live.I do, the estrogen keeps it in check. Like really. Women's estrogen levels respond to and match our testosterone levels. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/18 04:27 AM |
| 1 | If dogs don't like you, then your probably a betaNo, it means you're a bad person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/18 03:16 AM |
| 1 | Q4W am I being played?Yup, side piece for sure. Congrats, you know what it's like to be a fat chick. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/18 03:13 AM |
| 2 | Women should date short guysI'd be too tempted to bully him. Just sneak up on him and boop him on the head. Boop! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/18 03:11 AM |
| 2 | People love to ramble about how Indians smell like shit, but white people also have a weird body odour. Most of you smell like sour milk and dog hairs.I think it's all the herbal stuff their ancestors ate. And the gin. Now they smell bitter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/18 01:36 AM |
| 1 | Do women always lose attraction?Punishment is the wrong word. What you describe sounds more like "atonement". I consider responsibility as committing to doing the best job possible to complete a task. So a single mom that's capable of committing to being both a good mom and a good girlfriend, and pulls it off, is being responsible and would have nothing to atone for. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/18 11:25 PM |
| 2 | Disparaging TRP.It's a compliment the way the existence of anti-viral drugs is a compliment to influenza. TRP paints women as either opponents or subhuman in order to justify taking what men want while giving nothing in return. Opponents hate TRP because the men there are prioritizing sex, a want, over women's autonomy, a need that they themselves already have. It's complaining that women want men to submit, then turning around and calling women evil for not willingly submitting to men. It's both hypocritical a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/18 05:56 PM |
| 1 | Do women always lose attraction?Responsibility equals punishment? But if she can support herself just fine she doesn't have to receive a punishment. Are you saying that that, in and of itself, is the same as trying to escape responsibility? That responsibility means seeking out ways to punish oneself for certain behaviors? Who gets to decide what behaviors get punished? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/18 05:35 PM |
| 1 | Do women always lose attraction?What would that even look like? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/18 02:37 PM |
| 1 | Do women always lose attraction?We're arguing on two completely different points. I mean "support" in the macro sense, as in, women are capable of supporting themselves by being able to work. That change has effected the way men and women have related to one another ever since. You're arguing in the micro, as in, some women you know need support, so the need for support must still exist. No, the fact that some ladies you know need help isn't at all helpful to any conversations regarding how relationship dynamics have changed d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/18 12:34 PM |
| 1 | Do women always lose attraction?Neither have you. So what do you want??? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/18 12:13 PM |
| 1 | Do women always lose attraction?Men don't want women to take responsibility. That means they then have to take responsibility, which they have no intention of actually doing. Otherwise, they wouldn't need a half-assed excuse/deflection from the fact that they can take responsibility any time they like. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/18 12:08 PM |
| 1 | Do women always lose attraction?If you don't see the refutation of your statement all around you it's because you don't want to. I'm here to debate facts. There's no point in debating opinions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/18 11:34 AM |
| 3 | So is not being Harsh or critical of women sexist? I feel like not treating them like a man in the aspect is bad as well.Is the nature of men to go easy on women and be nicer and coddle them sexist?People don't want to work in places like this, for people that act this way. It might get things done, but no working adult deserves to be talked down to by someone that believes that the small amount of influence a management position gets you excuses childish behavior. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/18 03:24 AM |
| 3 | Do women always lose attraction?You assume that if a woman is with a man it's because she needs him. Men these days, and to a lesser extent children, are luxury items. Nice to have but not necessary, even harmful if one can't afford to maintain it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/18 03:10 AM |
| 1 | Do women always lose attraction?So what? If women stop wearing makeup men will stop trying to change themselves to attract women? I'd take that deal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/18 03:06 AM |
| 2 | Do women always lose attraction?But men still desire women, and are usually not above ignoring her faults if it means he can keep having sex with her. Men can't get away with this. Because women need neither assured access to sex nor any kind of support, she'll have nothing keeping her in a relationship based on lies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/18 04:11 PM |
| 10 | Do women always lose attraction?I'm convinced that RP ideology is just teaching men how to be narcissistic. Normal people can't be narcissistic. It's not in their nature. They will break down eventually. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/18 05:33 AM |
| 3 | Do women always lose attraction?RP is all about self-improvement, or rather, becoming someone men believe will attract women rather than who they actually are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/18 04:43 AM |
| 1 | Financial abortion is an effective way to bind women to men.Did female birth control solve the problem of unwanted pregnancy for women? No so why would it for men? Women have the option of effectively protecting themselves against the downsides casual sex. Men never have this option. Women that have casual sex without protection is just as accountable for unwanted pregnancies. But if a woman does take precautions and still ends up pregnant it's definitely the man's fault as he knowingly engaged in casual sex without any protection for himself. He acted r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/18 03:28 AM |
| 10 | Q4Women: How can I make women think that I don't just want to fuck them, that it's so much more than that, that I'm looking for companionship and love and family?The easiest way is to actually want that. Actually want more from a woman than just sex and you'll never have to worry about appearing any other way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/18 02:26 AM |
| 22 | Do women always lose attraction?That makes sense. RP men often use deception to attract women. The more she gets to know him, the more clear it becomes that she was lied to, the more likely it is that she eventually breaks it off. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/18 01:29 AM |
| 2 | Does feminism have a shelf life like communism?The costs of reversing any gains made by feminism wouldn't offset the benefits, of which only a small percentage of men will benefit. "Doesn't work" is a matter of perspective. The goal, once reached, can still be reversed, making the end game more about maintenance of the status quo. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/18 06:36 AM |
| 0 | [CMV] Press "F" for respectsYou don't, but the representatives you vote for do. Don't worry, just wait for a candidate that agrees with you and hope enough people vote for them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/18 01:48 PM |
| 12 | [CMV] Press "F" for respectsWhat anyone besides the owner of the site thinks is irrelevant. I'd rather not live in a world where control of my property could be taken to better spread a message that stands to ruin my reputation. This is a private platform. TRP is still free to speak, they just have to do it someplace else. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/18 08:44 AM |
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