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She just treats the market transactional then is shocked when it’s flipped on her. Why would a man who’s a high earner invest all those resources into her if she doesn’t want kids? Probably never thought that far
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 06:14 PM
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Adjusting to fit the female standard is expected because male competition for women’s attention is fierce. If you don’t do it, another guy will. Women’s competition for men’s attention isn’t fierce, so they can do as they please as they take it for granted.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 09:54 PM
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None of those matter, you’re trying to rationalize grouping people based on assigned at birth attributes and hating them based off it. You are no different or better than a racist. Face it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 02:38 PM
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You genuinely think most women can obtain men who light them up sexually, and are willing to invest in them financially and build a life with them? Most women can obtain that and max out all categories? This is what you believe?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 09:21 PM
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Not particularly what I asked, I asked what’s the likelihood those women find a man who sexually lights them up and is also financially capable and also willing to invest in them, and maxes out all categories?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 09:04 PM
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Why have a relationship if you’re not building something together?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 09:03 PM
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So you’d date a guy that works at a grocery store?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 08:18 PM
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What are the odds she finds a man who meets all of her categories, both sexually exciting, commitment focused, and willing to invest in her? It’s not likely. That’s her dream man. Compromises will most likely have to be made
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 08:17 PM
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Did you mis type that?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:04 PM
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Not really, because a woman wanting to build a life with a man means that she is sacrificing raw desire in the man, in exchange for stability and investment. Aka, locking down a beta buxx delux. From a man’s perspective, a hookup is max reward, for lowest cost. A girlfriend is max cost for same reward
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:02 PM
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They do it cause women love it, it legit just works
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 04:51 PM
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Women want traditional men without being traditional themselves then use whatever nonsense to justify this hypocrisy. That’s really what’s the core of it
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 04:43 PM
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That’s just how all women work though
/r/seduction30/07/26 05:44 PM
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He’s discussing an idea, you are not engaging at all with the idea and just attacking him
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 06:23 PM
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So so so tired of this response. “Women just aren’t attracted to YOU sweaty”, give it a rest and address the actual argument
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 04:41 PM
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Not what’s she’s saying at all
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 11:03 AM
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I think it’s number 1 tbh, the rest is a bonus
/r/seduction02/07/26 09:02 PM
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Height that’s it
/r/seduction02/07/26 08:55 PM
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Do you need a guide on this? Step 1. Within the realms of inter gender dynamics, if you are wondering if something you’re doing is cheating or micro cheating, imagine your partner watching you do it, or say it. If you’d imagine they would be uncomfortable or upset, you’re very likely micro cheating
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 06:39 PM
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Homophobe
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 05:54 PM
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But a pretty good guideline frankly
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 05:54 PM
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AWALT
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 05:53 PM
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It is a market
/r/seduction25/06/26 08:04 PM
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War
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 11:01 PM
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I think men do still approach, just only the top tier girls. They are absolutely flooded. The women complaining that men don’t approach are usually just undesirable (older, fatter, uglier). I’m dating a girl who’s fairly good looking, and the amount of attention she gets is unfathomable to men.
/r/seduction22/06/26 10:58 PM
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Very true
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:17 PM
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And no one will die from loneliness and yet if you put someone in solitary confinement it’s a punishment to the highest degree
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:25 AM
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Men and women are different, women have needs that men do not and vice versa
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 11:36 PM
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To zealots, I’m sure it does appear that way
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 01:32 AM
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Because it’s a date, not a cross examination
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 01:31 AM
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That’s because it is testing for a feminist ideology. I’ve heard women ask this and you’ll still fail if you answer with “my mom”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 01:30 AM
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The questions would be very off putting if it was coming from a place of testing me. However I’d answer with my mother, I admire her dearly. She has shown devotion to her children and sacrificed everything for them. There’s few things more admirable than unshakable love. As for a man I admire, myself, because I am me
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 01:28 AM
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This is true, if you ever see lesbians where one’s masc and the other is femme, if the masc were a man he wouldn’t ever know the look of a woman that wasn’t disdainful. But because it’s a woman acting like a man, suddenly they can land a pretty girl. Makes no sense to me
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 10:22 PM
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I always wonder why American girls in particular are just so absolutely difficult in every aspect, it’s very frustrating and befuddling
/r/seduction05/06/26 04:51 AM
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How to offload all accountability 101. If you want to be treated like an adult, take responsibility like one
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 12:07 AM
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All women respect your status above all else. This Isn’t unique to women from poor countries
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 12:00 AM
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Sounds like a very bitter POV
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 03:58 PM
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If you love DnD, and want a GF who also loves DnD, where would be a better place to find her?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 08:43 PM
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Women discovering that men are attracted to them is always so funny
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 08:08 PM
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Cop out of his point
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 03:54 PM
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It’s called decorum, and keeping the spark alive. Girls talk like truckers on date 1 then wonder why they can’t find a man who wants to marry them
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 03:04 PM
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Do you think men are trying to date drug addicted prostitutes with herpes?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 02:06 AM
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Desperation is just really really really wanting something. Women aren’t these enigmas of attraction, it’s very clear what they’re attracted to, not sure why we still pretend like we can’t pin it down
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:29 AM
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It’s mostly due to their own actions that they lose value fast, heavy drinking, heavy partying, acting masculine, casual sex, girlboss attitudes, etc. it’s just when they’re older, they don’t have youth to offset all those other unattractive features, now they’re just old and repulsive acting
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:03 AM
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Decorum is lost these days
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 12:18 AM
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Classy
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 10:32 PM
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Yeah those things are gigantic turnoffs, those girls are fools for acting or speaking like that to a man they’re trying to court
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 10:29 PM
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Feminism is built upon the idea that women were all oppressed and suffered at the hands of “traditional relationships” that’s why “trad wife” has such a negative connotation, it harkens back to those ”dark times”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 08:34 PM
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If I framed it as “every man today hates women because of every man experiencing systematic harm from every woman” yeah that would poke a hole in that
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 08:33 PM
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Im sure
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 06:53 PM
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Ah ok that settles it then, great argument
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 06:53 PM
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“Critiques feminisms contradictions” - “that’s not true feminism/that’s not what it advocates/it’s not a unified idea” - makes it so no contradictions can be brought up
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 06:52 PM
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We’re speaking of sexuality specifically. All those also could be explained logically as well, but it would take far too long for me to write an essay to address 8 different non related aspects of male logic
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 06:32 PM
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No true Scotsman for feminism, a classic move to dodge accountability
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 06:30 PM
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Feminism
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 06:21 PM
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No but it certainly pokes holes in the narrative that the past was universally horrific for all women everywhere all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 06:15 PM
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Huh? I’m drawing a parallel between your framing of hating men as self protection, and people being racist and self justifying it as self protection. You’re doing the same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 06:15 PM
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Any specific examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 06:14 PM
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Ah yes that’s how my neighbor frames his blatant racism too, self justification isn’t objective justification
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 05:22 PM
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You speak for all women in the past?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 05:22 PM
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I’d say that the fact that my own mother speaks fondly about the old times that modern feminists claim was SO horrible for all women, definitely pokes major holes in common modern narratives
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 05:21 PM
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The reasons that men do or feel things can be easily explained logically
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 05:14 PM
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My mother lived in the peak of the “horror times” that you guys describe but never lived through, and she’s happier than almost any modern woman has ever been. She remembers those years fondly
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 05:12 PM
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Is hating the other side “standing up for yourself?” If so, then doesn’t that justify men’s hate towards women as them standing up for themselves against blatant hatred?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 05:12 PM
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Both actually https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1359178923000265 The stats are pretty low, and even then self reported stats are very unreliable. There are many more things to fear that are statistically much more likely and not reliant on self reporting
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 03:06 PM
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It does but no one cares and we don’t often complain about that stuff it’s whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 03:00 PM
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Self reported surveys are basically useless
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 02:52 PM
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You’re more likely to die in a car crash than any sort of loose definition of date rape, and yet I don’t think you ever worry about that. Wonder why
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 02:45 PM
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When you gotta take statistical extremes in order to feel like a victim, that’s how you know you don’t have real problems
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 02:32 PM
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I didn’t ask for the definition, I asked what about capitalism specifically caused men not being able to support a family on their own income, and when did this happen? And why?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 06:51 PM
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What about capitalism specifically? When?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 06:32 PM
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Men love short women, I think you’re projecting with that part, fat is fixable too
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 06:26 PM
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I wonder who’s fault it is that it’s hard to find one man that’s able to support a family anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 06:25 PM
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I think women have an infinitely easier life than men, bar none. That said, I’d still choose to be a man again
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 06:20 PM
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I think the amount of front page subs I’m banned from acts as a certificate of sorts
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 07:32 PM
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I don’t virtue signal personally
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 07:22 PM
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That’s called strawmanning, or jumping to conclusions, or just assuming… and you know what they say about assuming
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 07:20 PM
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Oozing jealousy
/r/seduction14/05/26 05:26 AM
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Oh cool
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 02:33 PM
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I’m not familiar enough with what they say. Not all trans are ugly men trying to escape, sometimes it’s autogynophilia too
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 12:50 PM
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Average is bottom tier in the man scale
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 12:48 PM
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Being trans to avoid being a bottom tier man isn’t new. This was 4Chan stuff a long time ago. But yes, but specifically being a YOUNG woman, is of course better than any other configuration. That’s why they do it. But when they age… oh god
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 11:52 PM
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With what families? Our birthdate is gone
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:07 AM
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They worked alongside their main duty as a mother and care taker of the house. There was quite literally no one else to do it. If they could afford slaves, then they’d have the slaves do the house chores and the woman would basically just do nothing. But most could not
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 02:34 AM
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Just chucking a wiki article isn’t an argument. Well now the answer is: no one. That’s why no one is having families. Someone was doing it before. Wasn’t the man
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 01:01 AM
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Can you show examples of feminism being older than the 1960s? They did work, in the home. Who else would there be to take care of the home and family?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 12:55 AM
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Actually, it didn’t. That’s why it ended. It’s unsustainable and prevents growth. Slave economy’s typically lose to those who do not rely on slaves as much
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 12:02 AM
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Modern feminism starting in the 60s is what I was referring to. That’s not true, in any era in history, in every place in the world, the man worked, the woman took care of the family and home.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 12:01 AM
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The 4k years of human civilization that used the traditional lifestyle showed that it in fact, did work. The 50 years of increasing decay and social dysfunction in all countries embracing feminism shows that it in fact, did not work.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 10:32 PM
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Yes, that’s why women call other women pick mes, men do not ever use that word. It’s a way for women to kill competition. It’s how they work. See other labels like slut, conservative with a bad intonation, etc. Of course men like the qualities of a pick me, that’s why women shame it in other women
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 06:43 PM
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Cultural brainwashing can do a lot, but when you’re older and the choice is no longer possible to make, it will affect you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 02:02 AM
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Quantifying things is the first step to science. Science is not an American invention. Why would one not retrieve the stats of dating market dynamics if they seek to understand it? Do you advocate for willful ignorance? Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 07:21 PM
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If men don’t treat sex objects as valuable then why are OF girls so absolutely rich?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 05:38 PM
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This is my opinion and it’s the correct one that aligns with biological logic
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 05:36 PM
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Why is it prostitution?
/r/seduction29/04/26 03:35 PM
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No it’s not over rated. It’s the only actual stable form of a romantic relationship you can have with a woman. Without it, she’s just using you
/r/seduction23/04/26 10:40 PM
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Jarvis, take the amount of art, songs, poems and self sacrificial events men made towards women, and compare it to the amount women have made towards men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 10:13 PM
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No, I was providing a steel man. You originally said that if the declining birth rate crisis was about having children and not sex, they wouldn’t be talking about sex. That’s what I responded to
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 10:50 PM
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I think they just want a girlfriend or wife, the exploitative framing is added by you
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 10:49 PM
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I mean they could want sex and family, I don’t think they’re mutually exclusive
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 08:47 PM
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If men were only focused on access to sex instead of the children, wouldn’t they be advocating for legalized prostitution instead of family creation?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 08:38 PM
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I think there’s about 90 steps I have to learn and enact before I even bother googling this stuff. Like, how to filter for the correct future mother, how to make enough money to support a family, how to build a strong community in modern era. Then once all that’s sorted, I can google how to change a diaper
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 08:37 PM
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Grow up, be a man, don’t self flagellate. You will never truly win the approval of the people you’re trying to appeal to and you should never need or want it in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 04:27 PM
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Bro, as soon as she leaves the date (or sometimes even during), she opens up her phone and has 7 foot tall millionaires hitting her up on hinge. Of course she’s going to forget about you right after
/r/seduction16/04/26 04:38 PM
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No? The first sentence of the question “do you understand”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 09:50 PM
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Then you probably should not have replied
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 09:39 PM
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Don’t answer his question
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 09:34 PM
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Didn’t answer his question
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 09:33 PM
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They do have a life, but it’s hyper curated. They don’t really meddle with the peasant class
/r/seduction12/04/26 07:28 PM
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They don’t need to go outside, everything a hot woman can want to get, she can get from her bed. Validation, money, etc. Why would she do anything else?
/r/seduction12/04/26 07:16 PM
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How is that relevant to this topic?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 11:12 PM
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They allowed feminism to happen, and gave women the privilege to vote. So clearly, not the case
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 10:59 PM
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You didn’t have a thesis, nor did you address my point, I’ve already addressed how your rebuttal was just muddling up my point with a lazy “things always change so whatever” which isn’t really addressing it at all
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 10:13 PM
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Not really vague. Again I’ve asked you to tell me a single negative outcome of feminism which you’re still dodging, but I won’t let you, I will keep bringing it back
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 10:12 PM
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Doubling down, yawn.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 09:44 PM
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Incredible that feminism was the first movement in history that had no negative consequences of changing a fundamental system that has existed for 5k years
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 09:30 PM
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Cool, emotional ad hominem
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 09:29 PM
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Pure emotion, no points to address
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 09:29 PM
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That is actually very short amount of time, that’s one lifetime that women go from not working, to a major part of the workforce. This has repercussions, of which no one has addressed yet
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 09:29 PM
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Social fabric is gross? How? You want to be isolated and alone forever? No friends no neighbors? The rest of your point is a strawman
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 09:28 PM
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In the 1930s women’s participation in labor was 10%, in 1970 it was 43% and climbing ever since. Denying tackling this specific point and its repercussions with “things change all the time so whatever”, isn’t really addressing anything I said, and sidesteps the point I’m making entirely
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 09:21 PM
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Perfect example of a strawman
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 09:18 PM
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Their cultural brainwashing tells them they should want you so they like the profile for its presentation and to fit in, but their biology makes their pussy dry in response to it, so they stop responding
/r/seduction09/04/26 08:59 PM
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They weren’t labor force in the white collar work force. And you said a lot of stuff that really didn’t address the doubling of the white collar work force at all
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 08:57 PM
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Ok then not disingenuous, just plain ignorant. Which is worse, congrats you got demoted. You’re being willingly obtuse. You know how the military worked through all of human history, you know why men are the ones who fight, and why women are the ones who are not. I hope you’re just feigning ignorance to not succeed a point, because if not, you’re just not capable of truly engaging here
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 08:39 PM
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Yes men allowed it to happen, foolish, stupid men. And foolish stupid men who allow it to continue
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 08:21 PM
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Men don’t fight for women? Name one war where the women were the entire military and the men stayed back and waited. Disingenuous to say the least
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 08:20 PM
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Yes that’s different than modern white collar work force
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 08:19 PM
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Ironically your comment is both whining, and not contributing to the conversation at all
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 08:19 PM
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Western civilization for the past 5k years
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 07:13 PM
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They were secretaries at most, not the lifeline of the corporate workforce. And 2, yeah sure men will also give birth to the children and raise them. Women will fight and sacrifice their lives for men. Makes perfect realistic sense
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 07:12 PM
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Not one? Then I think we’re done here. Thats disingenuous
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 07:11 PM
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If you knew anything about history at all you’d know that’s not what would happen
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 06:42 PM
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That’s a straw-man. Reducing your role to some emotional moralistic caricature. As to who will stop you, your freedom isn’t a gift ordained by the gods, it’s a luxury, one you spit in the face of having. Our weakened civilization will be (and is being) conquered, by a society where people are more cohesive and grounded in reality. They will likely stop you
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 06:26 PM
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We just spoke about one, in this thread. You just ignored it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 06:21 PM
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The idea that everyone was free to do as they pleased except for women as a slave class is ahistorical nonsense. Everyone has a role to play in society, you do not get to shirk your responsibilities and then expect everyone else to uphold theirs. That is a child like mentality, and is why feminism is a joke
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 06:20 PM
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I’ve said plenty, you just ignored it all and responded with feelings based nonsense. The fact is that you do not want to think about consequences of actions, just how good something feels to say. Feminism epitomized
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 06:15 PM
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It’s not just me not having a family, but no one. You promote feminism as the source of decay of our civilization, up until you’ve weakened it enough for an external force and conquer us. Then cry wolf
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 06:14 PM
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Feelings above considering consequences of actions
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 06:11 PM
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Social fabric is a concept, not a platitude. It ruined my chances of starting a family, a stable one. Or drastically lowered it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 06:11 PM
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If women didn’t work in corporate America previously, but do now, how much does that increase the work force by? Through economic supply and demand, does that increase supply of labor? By how much? What are downstream effects of this? Are these questions you’ve ever considered? Likely not
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 06:05 PM
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Platitudes don’t affect people, actions do. Feminism shifted the social fabric, this has effects, some positive some negative. The hyper focus on oppression showcases a very limited scope in which to see the world. You need to destroy that lense
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 06:02 PM
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Name a negative outcome of feminism on society that doesn’t shift blame. That is accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 06:01 PM
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“We shifted the social fabric without understanding the consequences, and destroyed the old world without having a viable alternative in mind. Our actions are our own, many of the current social issues are direct consequences of our actions. We will do our best to mend these, and hopefully we can understand our mistakes, to not repeat them in the future”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 06:00 PM
2

That’s a platitude not a real action
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 05:58 PM
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Yes I’d say so, feminism seems to promote the positives of the movement without owning up to any negative outcomes of it, and shifting all blame on to men
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 05:58 PM
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Feminism is a movement promoted by women (at least in narrative), they changed society through this action. Through these changes, there were repercussions, some positive, some negative. You seem to not be able to list any negative ones that you can attribute to the actual actions that women have taken
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 05:56 PM
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Responsibility for the downstream actions that feminism has taken to shape our society
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 05:53 PM
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Sounds like accountability dodging, which is what I’m talking about. Proving my point
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 05:53 PM
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You did the same thing another respondent did, so I’ll just copy and paste my response to them, here. “I hate this part of Reddit debates but I’ll do it anyway. I asked what are negative outcomes for society that feminism caused, you answered with an answer that is barely related, if at all, basically just puts blame on men, and not feminism. So you didn’t really answer the question at all. But you know this, consciously, or subconsciously, and are basically sea lioning right now, to avoid addre…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 05:52 PM
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I hate this part of Reddit debates but I’ll do it anyway. I asked what are negative outcomes for society that feminism caused, you answered with an answer that is barely related, if at all, basically just puts blame on men, and not feminism. So you didn’t really answer the question at all. But you know this, consciously, or subconsciously, and are basically sea lioning right now, to avoid addressing the spirit of what I asked in the first place. If your next response doesn’t address the actual s…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 05:51 PM
1

The actions and behaviors that feminism promoted and took upon our society. Sexual liberation, women in work force, rejection of organized religion, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 05:48 PM
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Disingenuous answer, you know what I’m asking and you’re dodging
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 05:47 PM
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My test was my answer, and you dodged it. Proving my point
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 05:46 PM
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Here we can do a test, can you name any negative outcomes for society that are from the actions taken in the name of feminism?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 05:36 PM
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Actions and behaviors
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 05:36 PM
3

And North Korean is democratic, what people say their goals are mean little, the actions matter more
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 05:36 PM
2

Feminism is the advocation for power without responsibility and respect without accountability. That’s why
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 05:09 PM
1

Just not addressing my point at all
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 03:53 AM
1

In what other dynamic do we give responsibility to those with less power in the dynamic? Why is this one the exception? Women have the power in the dating world but none of the responsibly? That’s very convenient for them, best of both worlds, none of the draw backs
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 01:49 AM
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What? How is it not power? Who has the leverage in that dynamic? The thirsty one or the one with water? It’s a clear answer
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 01:47 AM
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I have water, you’re thirsty, I didn’t compel you to be thirsty, but you are, and I have what you desire. I have power over you. You’re trying to use some sort of weird clause to avoid admitting that women have power in the dating market and I’m not sure why, but it doesn’t really work here
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 12:26 AM
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Cool, so it sounds like women have the power in this dynamic
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 11:45 PM
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You’re talking about something else entirely than the thread
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 11:45 PM
2

That’s basic biology. I really need to describe to you basic fundamental male female dating dynamics?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 10:16 PM
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Any country in the world? Unless you are from the Amazonian islands or Islamic countries
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 10:07 PM
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No, you’re being obtuse to avoid the point. You obviously know that women are the choosers and men are the pursuers. And that unless you’re a top 1% man, you do not get offers, and even if you are, you don’t get offers from women on your level. You’re reducing all that down to “both sides get offers”, to avoid the point of discussing the power imbalance in the dating market
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 10:00 PM
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Classic intentional obtuseness to dodge the point, yawn.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 09:47 PM
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What does what you typed have to do with who has more power in the dating market?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 09:31 PM
3

Say no to what offers? Which gender gets the offers?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 09:30 PM
3

No, that has nothing to do with what I was talking about, complete derailment
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 09:30 PM
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How does the ability to sit back and be pursued disproportionately not equal power
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 09:29 PM
3

I don’t think you understand my framing
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 05:58 PM
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Women are pursued, men are the pursuers. Women can choose who they will allow to interact with them, who has the privilege of paying to take them on a date, and who they allow into their bodies. Men do not choose, they’re chosen
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 05:56 PM
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In the modern dating world most of the power falls on women, makes sense that most of the responsibly falls on them too
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 05:52 PM
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That’s not blaming her for his actions, that’s holding her up to the standards that men are held to, in terms of agency, accountability and responsibility. A man goes into a bad part of town, gets robbed, complains online. Do you think the reactions will be anything but “wtf were you thinking?” Welcome to equality
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 05:37 PM
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You’re thinking in concrete, first order actions. Very surface level. You need to think in terms of broad, abstract, network effects of a feminized society.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 07:41 PM
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Yeah, this is how you get women attracted. Just how they operate, but they simultaneously hate it. Classic women dilemma I suppose
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 12:23 AM
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Not how women operate, they don’t seek truth they seek group harmony. Instincts, evolution etc
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 06:58 PM
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Classic intentional obtuseness to dodge the point
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 05:13 PM
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I don’t think it’s really a choice, they didn’t choose to be attracted to men
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 10:29 PM
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Let’s see the self deceptive rationalization cotton, I think the ladies will be out in maximum effort to this one
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 08:53 PM
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No one saying the true answer, it’s because if it’s two gay men there’s no women for the woman reader to self compare to, so no insecurities
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 09:42 PM
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Honestly from my extensive experience, you show up, she sees you, and she either just likes you or not. There isn’t much you can do to convince her to like you, if she looks at you and decides she doesn’t. It’s really that simple dude
/r/seduction30/03/26 04:05 PM
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I think you underestimate the impact being a beautiful young woman has on their upbringing, their incentives, their worldview, and what they pursue. It shapes who they are to a degree you can not fathom.
/r/seduction30/03/26 12:55 AM
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It is, but that’s how humans are. Denial can be useful, but when relied upon reality will shatter whatever wall you’ve built with it eventually
/r/seduction30/03/26 12:51 AM
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Not like dating a 4 at all, they live entirely different worlds of existence. Always have. That changes a person
/r/seduction30/03/26 12:50 AM
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Not cruel imo, balance. There’s a cost to everything. Even beautiful women give up something when time comes knocking.
/r/seduction30/03/26 12:40 AM
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Because they’re trying to figure out if they like you enough to consider you for long term. They can only know this once they’ve dated you for a little while, then they decide.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 06:42 PM
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The guy pulling away from not wanting anything serious is just you getting rejected. You didn’t meet his bar. Happens to the best of us, welcome
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 04:48 PM
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Yes, I’ve read many, they’re very often bloated just like your post
/r/seduction26/03/26 09:03 PM
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Comparing your Reddit post on making a instagram to get laid to a 400 page book is hilarious. And even those books are often way too bloated
/r/seduction26/03/26 08:53 PM
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Bro please shorten this, holy mother of Jesus
/r/seduction26/03/26 08:28 PM
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Being cheeky, was fishing to see if you were hyper liberal
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 08:12 PM
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What IS a male?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 08:07 PM
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God damn imaging spending money on 6 months of dates just to find out your girl doesn’t give head, that’s a hell if I ever heard of one
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 05:07 PM
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Globalization of the dating marketplace is exactly what caused it to malfunction, it’s already globalized and it’s the problem not the solution
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 08:52 PM
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You must be young
/r/seduction22/03/26 05:14 AM
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Lay off feminist Tim tak
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 09:50 PM
1

If you think men are taking you to drinks is to “break you” whatever the hell that means, you’re brain rotted and will never find a stable partner or relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 09:49 PM
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What a nightmare of a date, women do kinda do this though
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 09:39 PM
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The first step in showing someone you’re dumb is to mistake generalizations for absolutions. Exceptions do not disprove averages. Use your brain, not your emotions.
/r/seduction21/03/26 09:35 PM
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Most hot guys are likely pretty stupid. Hot people in general are stupid because they didn’t have a need to use their brain at all. Easy life
/r/seduction21/03/26 09:09 PM
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Yeah, unless the girl is outlier level hot where the loop breaks, after doing the hook up procedure for the 50th time, I’d rather just beat my meat and save money effort and time
/r/seduction21/03/26 09:07 PM
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No shit the gender made for combat is more likely to be physically violent in general. Now if men are made for physical violence, what kind of violence to women use to settle their disputes? Let’s see if you can admit that part. Hint, it’s not “nothing women are angels”
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 08:59 PM
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Because they’re old and less physically attractive? Not hard to figure out
/r/seduction21/03/26 08:52 PM
2

US conservative women are still the same type of woman the Liberal US women are. My best experiences are girls from more religious countries but are intelligent enough to reject the religion but keep the values.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 08:04 PM
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You’re not dating ai bro, you’re talking to yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 12:24 AM
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The amount I go down on a woman typically relies on a couple of things Does she go down on me Is she clean How pretty is her pussy/ass If the first two are cleared I’ll do it, if the third is cleared I’ll love it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 04:12 AM
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I went from thinking being kind nice attracts girls, to only looks matter, to thinking only game matters, to back where I am now which is really she decides if she likes you or doesn’t as soon as she looks at you
/r/seduction12/03/26 04:09 AM
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The thing is, most people aren’t smart. So statistically that beautiful women probably isn’t actually smart, so then what else can you compliment her on other than looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 03:05 PM
1

You can it’s just that you’re born with the formula
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 03:04 PM
2

Sweet sweet SWEET summer chil….
/r/seduction03/03/26 09:51 PM
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Yes it’s almost definitely this one, I’d say way more often than not, a girl in a situationship is indeed hoping it becomes more
/r/seduction03/03/26 03:07 AM
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You can shame men for sexual experience if you desire
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 04:21 PM
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Responsibility for desiring women who haven’t slept around a ton? They openly admit this. What would men even be dodging here?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 04:05 PM
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No it’s about biological attraction triggers, your version is the common feminist reframing to save their egos
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 03:32 PM
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Yes, they question it and it has been answered. A woman with less experience is more likely to pair bond, is more stable, less damaged, and the certainty that the child is yours is higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 02:15 PM
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Women value experience, men do not. You can start yourself, ask men’s body count and shame them when they have high count. But you probably don’t really care and don’t want them to be a virgin
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 12:43 PM
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A hoe phase changes how someone behaves, they can lie with their words but not their behaviors. Unless they’re unusually self aware
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 05:34 AM
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Someone buying you something is an extremely short term investment maybe, an investment into sex, but not into the woman. Once the sex is acquired, investment fulfilled, girl no longer needed. So it’s not the kind of investment women should be wanting if they’re looking for a real partner. Kim Kardashian is a perfect example of that kind of girl you’re right… and she’s been married three times. She’s also rich, the rich men are just men to her. They’re not investing anything into her
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 05:12 AM
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You think she’d really want to marry a man dumb enough to fall for her lie?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 03:18 AM
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She gets attention, yes She gets sex, yes She gets money/fancy dates/favors, yes initially but it fades after sex She gets investment, no, not serious investment. You’re trying to lock down 21 year old men, it’s like trying to tell a bird to not fly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 03:10 AM
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Neither of us have been funny but I wasn’t trying to be, I was actually asking
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 11:56 PM
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If by multiple partners you mean boyfriends and not casual hookups yes. And there’s a rough limit depending on her age. If she’s 30 and has had 5 boyfriends that’s one thing but if she’s 21 and has had 8 that’s another
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 11:51 PM
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Are you actually Greek or are you cosplaying
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 11:47 PM
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Bleh, be more original
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 11:45 PM
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18-27, cute, has mostly had boyfriends, has never hooked up ideally, has principles, thinks long term, wants to be a mother, feminine, not fat
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 11:44 PM
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Of course I have gotten tired of the same diet and food, hence my analogy
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 11:38 PM
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I don’t date them seriously, but I don’t see a need to broadcast it from the rooftops
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 11:37 PM
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Enough I suppose
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 11:30 PM
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I assume you understand what a metaphor is?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 11:30 PM
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Can you eat the same dinner for the rest of your life? Do you find yourself getting bored of the same food and feel like you want variety?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 08:42 PM
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And I’m assuming you get an immense sense of validation from that, no? Isn’t this validation from other people validating it?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 04:15 PM
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I have a couple questions, do you have a degree, if so, in what?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 01:52 PM
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It’s just a simple way to look at the world, people don’t really want to think about nuance, or accept that bad things happen to good people and vice versa. I agree with your nerdy references but cloverfield lane that guy was NOT good lol, he murdered the guy and lied to the people to keep them in his basement.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 05:10 PM
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It’s called just world fallacy. Many women/blue pillers live by it and I’m not entirely sure why. It’s just “good things happen to good people bad things happen to bad people”, it’s a childish way to see the world, but absolves any sort of moral conundrum
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 05:01 PM
2

What about age and race, I could say those preferences out loud and no one would care?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 04:52 PM
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But those are the reasons that red pill needs to exist, red pill is a man’s answer to those problems
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 01:05 AM
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They don’t really advocate about other topics
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 11:50 PM
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I think most women would agree with your point of view, but men don’t operate that way
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 07:59 PM
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Because redpill is sexual strategy not “how to fall in love with a woman”, typically the issue men have is falling in love too fast or for the wrong woman
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 07:40 PM
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Sex is necessary but not sufficient for love
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 07:30 PM
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I mean, I kinda like the idea tbh. It’s like a village in a building
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 06:52 AM
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You said it turned you on, isn’t that enough
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 05:16 AM
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I mean none of that matters if you’re willing to pay my rent. We’re equal, feminism and all that
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 09:04 PM
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You treat your feelings as a source of truth but they’re not. Feelings are instinctual output of environmental input, but not a truth to follow. They’re a data point
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 08:32 PM
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“Until you make the unconscious conscious, it will direct your life and you will call it fate.”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 08:30 PM
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Can you pay my rent? I think we’d both get something outta this sounds like
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 07:49 PM
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This thread is gonna be a lightening rod for aging bitterness
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 01:02 AM
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I know people that use this logic to be racist too, I assume you agree with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 11:53 PM
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Men trying to appease women, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 07:36 PM
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Status is contextual, if you specify the culture and time period, it can get more granular
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 06:55 PM
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They would focus on the specifics. Instead of a vague term like “equality”, they would say “in x year a coalition comprised of women pushed for the right to vote”
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 06:54 PM
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Yeah it’s just a fundamental difference in how men and women communicate. It’s the source of most of our conflicts
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 04:56 PM
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Did these women happen to have peni?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 08:53 PM
1

I think you’re not understanding what I’m saying. A different group is deciding to invade you, you don’t have an impact on their decision to invade you, you simply must respond to their decision to invade you
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 07:05 PM
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It takes a committee of people that are from somewhere else, they decide to invade you, you must do something. It’s a pretty simple idea
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 06:52 PM
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What? You have a state, you get invaded, that’s not an argument with yourself that’s a real thing that happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 06:46 PM
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It only takes one person to start a war, even if you don’t want one, someone else will. What then?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:38 PM
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Men are simply realistic. It would be great if we could cast a magic spell and make war not a thing ever again but it’s not reality
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:36 PM
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I went on a good date with a 21 year old but it didn’t go anywhere. I guess that’s the answer
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 11:03 PM
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I currently aim for as young as I can obtain for ltr. I’m drawing a comparison between how men view age, it’s similar to how women view height
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 10:49 PM
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Can we stop accusing men we don’t like the actions of to be gay
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 10:46 PM
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Of course, just like the man’s height is
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 10:43 PM
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They don’t, hypergamy is maxed out
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 09:35 PM
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No one does anything without incentives and rewards. Remove the incentive, the motivation stops, it’s very simple
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 06:20 PM
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Because it’s impossible, difficult is acceptable, impossible is not
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 06:19 PM
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Agreed, women are attracted to power, what’s more powerful than a man who has power over life and death?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 01:32 AM
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Tik tok absolutely makes Gen Z act as one cohesive hive mind
/r/seduction19/01/26 07:16 PM
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Modern ones do. Because they’re in competition with the younger women. But before modern disfunction they gave good advice because they were already married and had children and were out of the competition
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 10:26 PM
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Yeah this is the key. Women of older generations listened to people who have already done these things, now we spit on their advice and wonder why we fuck up so hard with relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 03:34 PM
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Idk American white women are pretty masculine ime, very demanding, loud, entitled, graceless
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 12:20 AM
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Can you explain the obsession with white women? I’ve always found it so weird and always wanted to know why it’s so common
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 11:55 PM
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You wrote ten paragraphs about Aristotle to avoid answering one question: why do infertile couples grieve if there’s no instinct toward having children? They can still have sex. Under your model, they should be relieved.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 11:11 PM
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Everyone only does things for incentive, that’s the basis of my argument. It’s basic human psychology
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 10:56 PM
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Everyone functions the way I do, their self awareness or self honesty is likely a different story
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 10:56 PM
1

Your subconscious does nothing? Is that truly a belief you hold?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 10:55 PM
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So wanting sex is having an instinct towards having sex, but wanting a kid is not an instinct towards having kids? That is convenient. A line of questions is not an argument? You may need to tell the court system and Socrates this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 06:47 PM
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Yes if it is explicit and not tactful. I instantly lose interest if she’s seeing me as a resume and is approaching the date as an interrogation. It’s not fun, it’s not sexy
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 06:43 PM
1

Your subconscious synthesizes that it’s energy dense and sends the signal to your brain that it tastes good
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 06:38 PM
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I’m establishing a base so we can discuss off it. Ok now that your claim is solidified, why do couples cry if they fail at reproducing? Why does the idea of infertility negatively impact those who suffer it? Through either old age or accident or illness? Wouldn’t they not care? They can still have sex, but it won’t lead to the icky pregnancy reproduction accident no? They should be elated
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 06:37 PM
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Ok so let’s get premises straight and condense this, your idea is that the instinct to reproduce is non existent in humans? Is this accurate to your belief? Then we can take it from there
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 06:27 PM
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You promise me she doesn’t want kids? For thousands and thousands of years we’ve had children but you’re 100% certain that women do not want kids? I think your personal feelings and biases and bleeding into your world view here. Just because modern people in western societies have blunted and suppressed their instincts to have children, and are miserable because of it, does not mean that for the entire rest of human history having children was simply a consequence of sex. We’re not special, we’r…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 06:13 PM
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We do have mangled instincts, we didn’t choose it but we still have them. Our biology isn’t meant to understand contraception. It’s not that complex. Women desire to get pregnant when they ovulate, they don’t desire pure sex, they desire the actual act of getting pregnant. It’s a huge turn on if you bring it up. I’m saying this because it’s clear there’s a direct instinct to have children. If there were not, we would be extinct. Out of every living thing in the world, they all have instincts to …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 04:56 PM
1

Then why do women select for resource acquisition capability? Just for her? Or for her future offspring?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 04:52 PM
2

Bad behavior is subjective, it’s simply what you don’t like
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 04:51 PM
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Sex IS for the specific purpose of making children. That’s what it’s for, that’s all it’s for. Were the ones who have mangled innate instincts and called it true
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 04:34 PM
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Motte and bailey, we’re not talking about making boys “good people” we’re talking about guilting them into acting how you want them to
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 04:33 PM
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Fools maybe, even then they do have an incentive. It’s usually just pleasing someone else
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 04:32 PM
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I’d probably give her more leeway but I’d be suspicious, but if true, and she has a crazy high sex drive that is suddenly unlocked once she knows me, and has never had one night stands, then sure
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 04:31 PM
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Burning desire is real, you’ll feel it when you meet it. You won’t be wondering if she wants you, her hands won’t leave your body the entire night. If she says “I need to know you more before I get excited like that” it’s nonsense, she’s not into you
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 04:13 PM
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No one does anything without incentive. You can’t bully men into being nice and accommodating with no reward. How about you give me money, why? Because otherwise I’ll say you’re a bad person. What’s in it for you? Why would you need a reward to do a good deed?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 03:55 PM
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Sex and kids are one and the same. Contraception is a hijacking of our instinct. Without kids you wither away and have no foundation and no support. If we truly had no innate desire for kids no one would be having them at all in modern era, even those with stable families and financial means to, but they still have them
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 03:53 PM
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Yes, younger girls do this very often. If a 22 year old girl is complimenting me and calling me handsome or cute, it’s because she’s fishing for a compliment back, it’s not genuine. I assume it’s a new tik tok strat
/r/seduction14/01/26 08:53 PM
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Was more of a honest genuine accusation of false representation
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 01:53 AM
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Why are you larping as a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 04:07 PM
1

I don’t think it’s either the death knell nor the ascension into godhood either side portrays it as. I’ve dated (unfortunately) since I was 16, I’m now 31. The girls I can get now I get through my maturity and being smooth and being emotionally grounded. I am still extremely fit and dress well. I date younger, but yes it is harder to date a 21 year old compared to her choosing other 21 year olds. However not all 21 year old girls looking for older are broken daddy issue girls, some realize their…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 02:59 PM
1

I am not, I am pointing out that you are
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 11:20 PM
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If we didn’t have a desire to reproduce ingrained in us, we wouldn’t reproduce, and if we didn’t reproduce, we wouldn’t be here having this conversation right now. So therefore it’s clear that we have a innate desire to reproduce, because that’s what our ancestors have done for thousands of years before we had this conversation now
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 11:19 PM
1

This a moralistic men bad women good comment vaguely disguised as a actual informative comment
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 12:08 AM
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Their action does have a direct impact on their success, but the amount of an impact it has is limited by genetics. Your two outcomes model condenses things so far that any sort of nuance is lost
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 12:05 AM
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TikTok is for women, men typically use YouTube. It’s just a different dynamic due to how men and women differ. Women complain to the audience as if the person viewing is their bestie. They typically complain about the man not doing what she wants (commitment etc) Men lay down more of a structured theory of how and why modern women are not marriage material or their illogical views. <image> Attached image is an example of the man’s version of the woman complaining to TikTok about men
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 10:30 PM
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You asked if dating not being a meritocracy does that mean there’s no room for agency. That’s the false dichotomy I’m pointing to, and replying to
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 10:25 PM
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It’s not a dichotomy, you can improve your circumstances and results up to a point, that limit is set by birth
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 08:57 PM
1

What happens to a living being that doesn’t reproduce?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 08:48 PM
1

There’s definitely a reason to assume that wanting kids was selected for, logically. We’re living beings, all living beings live to reproduce
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:53 PM
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Think of who’s making the money, with a family that’s one home so one rent for 5 people. They spend more on food, basic clothes maybe too. But when you have individual people they spend money on themselves, they buy very different things. I mean why wouldn’t you, who else are you gonna spend it on. Families are cohesive, harder to manipulate but isolated people are much easier
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 02:13 AM
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If the people at the top are so powerful (which they are), if they wanted you to have a family, you would be having a family. Families aren’t profitable, you’re thinking long term, but things operate by quarterly’s now, not long term planning
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 02:06 AM
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Yes we are far removed that’s why we’re all miserable The construct of the family suffered but not the idea of having a family. The current system doesn’t want you to have a family it wants you to be a atomized worker
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 01:22 AM
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No because in the world status hierarchy women from first world nations are higher than women from third world nations
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 01:15 AM
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Well typically yes but women in modern era have hyper abundance so they look for it all, they want the man to be taller, better looking, richer, smarter, more capable, and more connected than her
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 01:14 AM
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The reason men want to create families is anything but socially constructed. Reproduction is the fundamental function of every living thing
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 12:57 AM
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What is this greater purpose you suggest? I have one currently, it’s creating a family. Well, you need a woman for that
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 12:47 AM
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The traits women seek: looks money status
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 10:44 PM
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They’re doing that too, but only the extreme of the extreme of low SMV/RMV women passport girl, while like 80% of men passport pro or would consider it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 10:40 PM
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Women’s ideal is the traits Nordic men possess, all data points to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 10:39 PM
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I’m just saying what women prefer take it up with them
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 10:24 PM
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Those women often have such low SMV and RMV that those men are higher status even from a third world country. Also the men are usually 5x better looking than the woman passport girling
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 10:12 PM
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Because women don’t only want money, they want it all, looks, height, status etc. the Nordic countries have the most men like that
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 10:11 PM
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Women can’t/don’t passportsis because of hypergamy. Women only date better, so going to another country where they’re better than the men there makes no sense. I guess they could do it to top tier places like the Nordic countries but I’m not sure those men want American women. I’m American and I don’t even want them
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 09:16 PM
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Women reduce men’s value to a single number that is based off how high their head is off the ground. I don’t think you can get more objectifying than that
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 11:59 PM
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Swapping out one way to blame men for seeking answers to their issues with another. This does nothing to get to the actual reasons as to why men have created a “Mano sphere” just a way to avoid tackling realities
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:03 PM
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I don’t think this threads question was “are women human beings”, but rather “at what age is their sexual market place value lower”
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 08:43 PM
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Age 30 is a huge drop in long term value, and every year after that is a pretty sharp drop after. For short term or casual? Matters less, just look good
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 08:42 PM
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It is bi phobic, no one cares though. I only care because you’re trying to claim moral high ground of not being biphobic and also finding them gross. You’re a human like the rest of us, come down to earth, you’re not Jesus. Just own it and stop trying to convince everyone else
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 08:40 PM
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What if she had a benis though?
/r/seduction03/01/26 06:39 AM
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It’s not about looks it’s about men’s motivations in life
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 11:40 PM
1

Why was this removed? Is this not a valid discussion?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 11:39 PM
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No one deserves anything
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 06:43 PM
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I don’t want or care if women respect men as a class, we’re not a unified peoples based off our peni. I want women to respect me as an individual based off how I individually act and conduct myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 01:30 AM
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It’s hard to face, but there is a possibility that life in this city is simply objectively worse than it was 30 years ago. Pre 9/11, after that it was straight downhill. This isn’t impossible to be true you know?
/r/seduction26/12/25 06:18 AM
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Nowhere in my message did I say I had trouble dating, I said that they don’t last. As in establishing long term with quality women is next to impossible.
/r/seduction26/12/25 12:15 AM
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Was it the NYC history you didn’t understand, or the Constantinople reference you didn’t understand? Tell me where your ignorance lies and I’ll help
/r/seduction25/12/25 11:58 PM
1

I’ve never been but Miami is a bit too ghetto trashy for me
/r/seduction25/12/25 11:30 PM
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I’ve lived in/near nyc my whole life but only dated seriously in it post covid. Post covid dating is your typical merri go round everyone your turn now she’s gone, shit show. The city itself is VASTLY different post covid. It’s extremely extremely dystopian. No one trusts or likes each other, everyone is on a razor edge, electric bikes going full blast onto sidewalks, your deodorant is locked up and you need to ring a wage slave to unlock it, rent is insane, and there is no middle class anymore,…
/r/seduction25/12/25 11:22 PM
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Bro they’re just saying shit that sounds good don’t take what they say they want so seriously
/r/seduction23/12/25 10:07 PM
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Jesse, what the fuck are you talking about
/r/seduction23/12/25 09:38 PM
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It was more of an internal thing, as in I enjoyed the polarity. However I’d be lying if I said the external validation didn’t feel good too
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 07:42 PM
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She was very small and cute and petite, and feminine. I was/am bigger and muscular and manly. So aesthetically we had great polarity. When we’d go out dancing we’d get compliments a lot from how cute we looked together
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 05:32 PM
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She was physically my type exactly, she liked me exactly how I liked to be liked, we fit well physically and aesthetically and we’re both attracted. But she was very boring, her apartment had 0 decorations which was the first woman’s apartment I’ve ever been in that was that barren. She didn’t just move in, I asked. Only the bare necessities. She had no interests, no hobbies, and nothing she can talk about other than going to places. She didn’t think about anything deeply, or at all. Nor have op…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 03:56 AM
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Social shame is a tool women use to keep other women in line. “Pick me” is an example of such
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 11:11 PM
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Not what I’m talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 11:11 PM
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4B movement is an example
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 11:10 PM
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It doesn’t matter if they do or don’t want to have sex, but sex is a lever that women can use to control and extract from men absolutely
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 09:23 PM
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No, I don’t think you understood what I meant at all
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 09:22 PM
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Through social movements like feminism
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 09:22 PM
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There’s like 3 different questions in your op but I’ll address this one “do men think women collectively use sex against men”, yes, of course they do. Not maliciously, but just naturally. It’s not moralistic, it just is
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 08:45 PM
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I suppose you’re not willing or capable of abstracting concepts?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 06:04 PM
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Men aren’t a cohesive tribe. You project how women operate ( women as a cohesive gendered global tribe ) on to men. We have different operating systems. Men aren’t allied with men because they’re both sharing reproductive organs, that’s silly. Men ally based on things like place of birth, shared allegiance to institutions, religion, shared neighborhood etc. You’re confused because you assume “men attack but also protect, which one is it?”, there are YOUR men, and there are OUTSIDE men. Know whic…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 04:53 PM
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You need drama. Yes. Modern women use relationships as entertainment, you need to be entertaining in a way that stimulates a woman, aka emotional spikes
/r/seduction16/12/25 06:37 PM
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I think even if you found someone super compatible, you kill whatever emotion could have happened by opening with a check list to their face. That’s how it works for me when I go on dates, no matter how beautiful the girl is
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 06:32 PM
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They’re sweet because they’re nice and kind. That’s it. It’s a simple word.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 06:29 PM
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No, we like playfulness. Showing up to the first date asking about your job, income, past relationships, height, education is not “cutting through the bullshit”. It’s off putting. The equivalent would be me showing up to the first date and asking “ok body count? Weight? Have you ever been fat? How many orbiters do you have right now? How much first date sex have you had?” It’s not sexy
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 06:25 PM
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Yes changing everything I said entirely to be immoral or whatever, join the club of others doing that below
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 06:20 PM
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I’ve explained why young women are better to date multiple times, it seems you’ll just keep finding ways to warp it into whatever you want it to be so that you don’t have to understand what I’m saying
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 05:25 PM
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Being able to warp whatever qualities i say i like into vague judgemental moralistic statements is tiresome
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 04:56 PM
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The fact that she doesn’t broadcast it as a set of requirements on the first date like older women do. I don’t like how older women conduct dates, their jadedness shines though and they have a sky high list of requirements, as if they’re at the peak of the hierarchy and by default I should desire them. Younger women are more in the moment and fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 04:48 PM
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Framing qualities one envies as ignorance is definitely a strategy
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 04:29 PM
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Yes it comes up after she tells me how she feels about short broke men
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 04:28 PM
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I’m describing how older women act on dates, they treat it as a business transaction and not fun
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 03:37 PM
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I’m not jaded or misanthropic, I’ve been on dates with them, they’re great. We had a fun cute date, kissed in a Photo Booth as it took our picture, sung karaoke on stage. With older women I get a business transaction and good posture
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 03:25 PM
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Actually we’re looking for beauty, non jadedness, bubbly disposition, kindness, and optimistic outlook.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 03:08 PM
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Attempt isn’t equal to success
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 10:47 PM
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Interesting so you’re not aware you’re trying to use shaming tactics. It’s unconscious then? 📝
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 10:42 PM
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Attempting to shame men to become what you want only works on weak men
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 10:16 PM
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The same but not less? That’s curious. And what’s your current SOs height? You’re saying you put 0 value in what he makes or what his height is? So what are your criteria? How nice he is? Let’s be real that’s simply not true
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 08:26 PM
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What is the point we’re meant to debate here? I’m not sure
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 08:15 PM
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I’m vetting.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 08:08 PM
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And if I were a woman I’d go for the meek harmless nice dude that worshipped me instead of the high value dude who has a take it or leave it attitude towards me. But we’re not, so our attractions differ biologically.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 08:06 PM
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Clearly not reading my overall message, too focused on getting a gotcha that doesn’t exist
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 08:02 PM
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Then I assume you don’t tie a man’s value to his income or height then right? Or would he be just as justified in avoiding you for thinking is value is determined by those factors?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 08:01 PM
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I’ve answered every permutation of possibility thus far, you are simply trying to find a specific path of the models futures where it can fail so that you can discredit the model entirely. I can promise you have not applied anywhere near this level of scrutiny, if any at all, to your model. All choices can fail, everything you do can not turn out how you hoped, that is life. Choose the best option out of the available ones and let life run
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 06:57 PM
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You teach her to be “independent” and disagreeable, now no man wants to marry her, she lives alone and is 45, now she has no family, and I have no grand children. Our family has failed. What if what if what if
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 06:45 PM
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Endless what ifs, this is not how life works. There are always risk with everything, every action and decision you take can fail, that is life. You do with what you have to the best of your ability. I’m not choosing her husband, but I hopefully raised her well enough to value my judgement as I know what’s best for her. If I meet her man and he is bad news, I will tell her, and hopefully she listens as I want what’s best for her. No matter what path you take, it can fail. That is how life works. …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 06:43 PM
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What if what if what if, there is no solution that is 100% guaranteed success, 0 risk. Everything in life has trade offs, risks, possibilities of failure. That is how life works. The most you can do is the best you can in the model that works best
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 06:38 PM
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Then I beat the shit out of him? Although the man I pick wouldn’t have an ounce of capability of beating her, emotionally speaking. Men don’t just snap and hit their wives out of nowhere, it’s very clear the type of man who would physically abuse his wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 06:33 PM
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I only need to vet until she marries him, that’s the point. Then I have grand children and the cycle repeats
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 06:26 PM
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And if the man chooses a bad woman she can ruin his world and life. There are no perfect solutions that can’t fail. I would thoroughly vet the man my daughter chose, as a father is meant to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 06:22 PM
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That’s why she chooses a good man, she’s submissive to him, he takes care of her, everyone’s happy. She shouldn’t have to face the hardships of life, that hardens her and makes her lose femininity
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 06:13 PM
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That would be the man’s role, to teach the child those things. We don’t need two men to raise a child
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 06:02 PM
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That’s what the father is for, it’s why having two parents, a mother and father is important. The mother teaches empathy, care, cooperative behavior. The man teaches skills, fortitude, self reliance
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 05:37 PM
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The traits that make a good mother are nurturing, kindness, empathy (real empathy not maladapted modern “empathy”), nesting instincts, putting her family first. Why would a man want to be a woman? That makes no sense? You don’t need to outsource what makes someone valuable at a role, you just need to look at them yourself and analyze their traits. Not rely on others to tell you how to feel about someone
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 05:25 PM
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Men are attracted to youth, beauty, and fertility because high chance of pregnancy and healthy baby. Women are attracted to ambition, resources, and social status because it signals his value to the tribe. A woman can only get pregnant from one man, so the ideal is that you get the highest value one to impregnate you, how do you determine the highest value male? Well you see how many other members of the tribe defer to him and look up to him. It’s pretty simple biology
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 05:16 PM
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But men don’t value those traits in women, we aren’t attracted to ambition or whom others admire, that’s how women’s attraction works to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 05:00 PM
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You said it’s weird that women are valued for things they can’t control, but they can control those things, it’s not weird at all. We also want women to be a good person. Fit feminine and nice. All they gotta be
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 04:29 PM
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Every woman is young at some point in her life, not every man is tall. Being a woman is about maximizing when you are highest value and maintaining the value given at birth, to lock down valuable man for life. Instead of wasting it then trying to lock down a man when the value begins to plummet. As a man, your value is determined at birth largely, your height, your family connections, social class, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 04:16 PM
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Yes I do this too. You can escalate, and they’ll be receptive, but it’s compliance not passion. I now end it saying they didn’t show as much passion as I’d hoped
/r/seduction14/12/25 07:53 PM
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You know it’s possible the woman was bad at sex and the man rejected her after realizing that it was bad right? Or maybe he didn’t like how she looked naked, or her attitude during sex. Women can get rejected too
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 10:22 PM
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None of these are holding women accountable, hardly even touched the actual spirit of what the OP was asking. You kinda glanced at it then somehow warped it into an excuse to go on a rant about men lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 01:16 AM
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They don’t. Women aren’t men, they don’t operate like men. This is a male thing to do
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 01:15 AM
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Jestermaxxing
/r/seduction13/12/25 12:27 AM
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Listening to what women say they want instead of what they respond to is lesson 1 in mistakes dating women
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 12:11 AM
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They want emotional validation, not physical validation. They want to be told their feelings are truth, and whatever they feel about a situation is correct and they’re not at fault, not that they’re beautiful
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 12:09 AM
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Didn’t you say yourself that the not safe man made your emotions spike?
/r/seduction09/12/25 06:19 PM
1

“1. ⁠Most men are the employer equivalent of McDonald's: shitty benefits, no PTO, horrible health insurance. 2. ⁠If I both divorced my husband and quit my job TODAY, which one is going to be quickly replaced when 30-40% of jobs meet my standards and 5% of men meet my standards?” Sounds like he’s irreplaceable, especially at this age. With no kids, you’d need your husband. You wouldn’t be able to handle the isolation with no kids and no husband. Sounds less like a marriage and more like a busines…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 07:51 PM
1

Who took whose last name?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 07:41 PM
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So you do submit to a man, so what is all this feminist nonsense (“I’ll never submit to a man”) about
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 07:37 PM
1

And yet you’re submitting to them still? That’s low status. That’s your issue of selecting for the wrong criteria, there’s a reason women in the past trusted their elders to select for them. You select on emotions, not stability. So you end up submitting to a McDonald’s manager. Can you? You’ll live your whole life alone and miserable?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 07:33 PM
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You’ve been dodging the logic long enough. You’re arguing from an emotional lens, not a logical one. The truth is you don’t have a logical justification as to why submitting to a man who’s your boss is ok but submitting to your husband who’s a man is not ok. The real answer is cultural feminist influence. It’s why your identity is in your job and not your family
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 07:25 PM
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Not really tackling the paradox of submitting to a boss vs a husband. Being stuck in a shitty job that you can’t leave because you can’t get a better job sucks too, work places can be abusive and toxic just the same
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 07:16 PM
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You can quit your job, you can also divorce your husband. So why is it ok to submit to a boss who’s a man but not ok submitting to your life partner who’s a man when you can leave both at any time? Only difference is that one is more invested in seeing your life be prosperous
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 07:02 PM
1

You’re dodging the premise of the question by focusing on specifics to your case
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 06:57 PM
1

I think the government lay offs have shown that to not be the case
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 06:52 PM
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You can divorce at any time, so you’re equally submitting to both. But when it’s your boss you’re ok with it, when it’s your life partner you’re not
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 06:51 PM
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He can fire you at the drop of a hat, he has ultimate control over your life circumstances, that’s ultimate submission
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 06:00 PM
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I bet the people at the top of your work hierarchy are men, so you still submit to a man
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 05:48 PM
-1

What gender is your CEO?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 05:26 PM
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Women live and die by the just world fallacy and I’m not sure why
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 12:55 AM
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You seem to not understand, I am not sure you can, that concludes this convo
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 09:53 PM
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No the ideas are independent of the person, the fraudulentness of the person doesn’t inherently make the ideas they create fraudulent
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 07:55 PM
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Ideas can come from an alien, the ideas either stand up on their own or not. Hitler could come up with the formula for gravity, his character doesn’t make the formula not work
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 06:36 PM
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Attack the arguments not the man, ideas should be weighed on their own merit
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 05:57 PM
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He apparently did feel attraction, he mostly hired prostitutes though, he never had a real relationship with a woman, likely not by choice
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 11:27 PM
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He had no attraction to women, but if he wanted them they wouldn’t of wanted him anyway. So by function a incel technically speaking. Not sure why this specific definition matters so much
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 11:11 PM
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I love schop, I call him the original incel. His takes are brutal but largely true. The snippet this belongs to is one of Schopenhauer’s many essays, extremely pessimistic, cutting, and brutal. I’ve read most of them, I love them. He was a self admitted pessimist, and likely an asexual. He simply didn’t have attraction to women, and saw them without the filter of lust. He resented the women are wonderful effect and went full on in the other direction. He described them as he saw them, since he w…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 08:12 PM
2

So if I’m a race that is smaller than another race on average, can I be justifiably racist in your world view?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 11:34 PM
1

It’s not the sentence structure, abstract the concept they both portray and you’ll see the parallel
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 11:02 PM
1

“I’m afraid of x race for y reasons and this manifests in many different ways” is equivalent to “I’m afraid of x gender for y reasons and this manifests in many different ways”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 10:45 PM
4

Why do they use motte and bailey so much? It’s their go to it seems. Very odd
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 09:27 PM
2

Racists use that handwave logic too
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 09:16 PM
3

I typically say “ideally a girlfriend” of course I’m speaking in generalities, because I don’t know if she is going to be that for me ( likely not )
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 05:19 PM
6

They’re burnt out because you’re likely their 6th date that week. But I feel you, if I’m dating a girl for a while and she isn’t putting effort into looking her best when she sees me, it’s because she doesn’t care that much and isn’t that excited about me, I usually end things after
/r/seduction24/11/25 03:57 PM
0

Same way a detective knows if someone is lying, experience
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 10:44 PM
-1

The fantasy ideal is that she had to take it slow with every other man, but with you she’s so filled with lust she couldn’t help it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 08:47 PM
5

Let’s not dilute terms like rape. Speak with logic, not emotions
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 08:45 PM
14

Women aren’t attracted to evil in a moral sense, they’re attracted to men who win at any expense. Typically the best/quickest way to win is to throw ethics and morals out the window, but it’s not the lack of ethics they are turned on by, it’s the winning part. The lack of ethics is typically a byproduct. Women don’t really care how you win, or if you actually have won, but more so the appearance and behavior of someone who will/has already won.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 12:36 AM
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I assume it’s the dichotomy of withholding vs giving sex early, because if you withhold it, he may lose interest, but withholding it is logical to avoid getting used for sex. If you give it too early, he may take what he wants and leaves, or think you’re too easy and you do it with every guy. This is a difficult conundrum I’d imagine.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 10:05 PM
3

Yes now imagine no one wanting to talk to you for your entire life, every attempt you make is rebuffed at best, or met with disgust and hostility at worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 05:01 PM
-1

Lose argument Move goalposts to unreasonable, unrealistic scenario of limiting interaction to the specific case of being asked out and saying no without having behavior bleed into every facet of life Absolve guilt for hypocrisy Classic
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 04:59 PM
4

Ok imagine trying to talk to everyone on that subway, every subway, and they rescind in disgust. They’re “not harming you”, and they’re just “avoiding you”, and yet, it doesn’t seem harmless does it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 03:09 AM
2

It would be more equivalent to picture it as you getting in a subway car and everyone in it leaving
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 02:54 AM
3

You’re the one creating the strawman, how does one confine behavior to “not getting dates”? Do you think active avoidance can be contained in the pure behavior of being asked out and saying no? In all other regards holding no contempt, avoidance, or disregard for the person? Ideal at best, naive at worst. Again, diversion instead of answering the question, I’ll bring it back, do you agree with the statement?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 02:51 AM
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The person I responded to made a claim that women’s active avoidance isn’t as bad as active action, people not asking how your day was is not active avoidance, if they saw you were a woman, and then intentionally left to go on a different subway car, that is active avoidance
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 01:23 AM
5

That’s wasn’t an answer. The point is that not doing something to someone could indeed be harmful, avoidance can be harmful, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 12:50 AM
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Would you agree with this statement “It’s not that we wish harm on Men, we just don’t want to interact with them, or work with them, or have to speak to them”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 12:27 AM
11

What is monogamy if not “not wanting your spouse fucking others”?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 06:39 PM
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I think I can out compete being a man with a woman, if you’re afraid you can’t be more of a man than a woman acting like a man… you got some work to do. Although masculine women are a huge turn off, so there’s no reason to compete
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 11:24 PM
1

Being around a feminine sweet woman is the best feeling in the world, especially on a first date. They operate so subtly that before you know it, she’s brushed up against your arm, leaning into you, looking at you with this look that just melts you
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 07:58 PM
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You can usually tell these girls by their profiles, they have dead give aways. They’re just brainrotted terminally online women, just avoid them. I’ve been on dates and argued with them and poked holes in their silly world view, but it’s a waste of time. We’re not there to win debates we’re there to date. Some women are simply too far gone into the TikTok brain rot, nothing can be done, find out they’re like that before you waste money on a date
/r/seduction13/11/25 12:21 AM
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Haha yeah I noticed this too. Especially on dating apps and such. Suddenly at a specific time on a Sunday they all text back at he same time. I attribute it to women’s instincts, they have super social web focused instincts which surfaces in almost hive mind like behavior. If you read about evolution and how early humanity evolved, and how the different sexes adapted, it makes much more sense. Technology exploded and fucked up what men and women evolved for, and malformed it into a weird global …
/r/seduction09/11/25 11:18 PM
4

Have you ever had a one night stand or had sex shortly after meeting a man?
/r/seduction09/11/25 06:45 AM
1

I tried reading a crown of thorn and roses just to understand women’s fantasies, it’s honestly trash writing that’s like third grade level depth
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 11:29 PM
5

They select for looks first these days, everything else is more of a cherry on top, material things matter little to them because they have jobs now, it was never sexually attractive anyways
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 11:22 PM
1

These are very answerable questions, value is determined by the buyer. What men desire in women, and what women desire in men are fixed attributes. Value is determined by who has more attributes that the buyers desire
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 07:53 PM
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If you can’t explain it, it’s because it’s illogical
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 07:49 PM
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So she’s broke, has a burden, and is looking for a man who doesn’t have any issues to date her seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 07:44 PM
1

All of them, from every culture that’s existed up until ours. Read history, learn of their cultures. The modern world is an anomaly
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 08:57 PM
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“Talking to them like people” isn’t a literal phrase, it means to speak to them like you would anyone else, which is not what you should do
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 08:56 PM
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“Just talk to women like people” is advice given by women, who have never had to seduce a woman, and are also not very introspective or self aware as to what makes them actually attracted in the first place. Disregard it
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 06:28 PM
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If you asked them, they would say it was their duty. If you were a woman and did not have children, you were seen as failing your one job. It’s how it has been for thousands of years
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 02:22 PM
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They absolutely used to have a duty to produce children. No one on Reddit understands history huh
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 04:44 PM
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I think a lot of people use autism to hide behind so they don’t have to feel bad about have shit social skills. Autism isn’t some vague thing, it’s very specific
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 08:59 PM
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Oh women being mean to autistic women, yeah 100% they do that shit no question
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 03:38 PM
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Idk, autism is hyper systematizing, pattern recognition brain. Sounds pretty male to me
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 03:31 PM
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That’s a weird fantasy you have. I’ve dated 3 autistic women. Men don’t do that lol. Mostly it was “yeah I mean she’s kinda odd, but otherwise she’s straightforward and chill”. Main issue with autistic women is that they don’t have femininity because autism is basically just hyper male brain. But otherwise they’re fine to date, its like dating a girl with the mind of a dude tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 03:07 PM
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Now they are, yes. The one child policy is no longer, times have changed. In modern era, they’re privileged
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 04:06 AM
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In China women can pick their husband from a literal catalogue, so, yes. I’d say if I could pick my wife from a catalogue and have all her stats listed and I’m guaranteed to marry her, I’d say I’m in the advantageous position. In India, women marry westerners if they can to escape. Again, can men do that? Nope
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 10:35 PM
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It’s because of how lopsided the market is. When it’s this unbalanced, the scarcer party has all the leverage in the world. Because if you won’t stoop low and only give and ask for nothing in return, there’s literally infinite men behind you willing to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 10:21 PM
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It’s for attention and for competition with other women. Attention for women = sex for men. They want to be looked at and know they’re desirable. They also want to know how they stack up against other women in their environment
/r/seduction13/10/25 05:55 PM
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It’s easier for them to ghost than reject you to your face, its just another form of rejection
/r/seduction10/10/25 11:49 PM
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Yeah, it’s unfortunate that seduction is a skill that you need to learn through practice like any other, but the failure for seduction is pretty humiliating so people are much more apprehensive to try vs say a kickflip
/r/seduction10/10/25 02:02 AM
1

Well it’s negative for me, the person who enjoyed the thing before it changed, but positive for the people who are changing it into what they want
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 01:49 AM
1

Because the demographic changed, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 01:36 AM
1

When a community, group, or anything comprising a certain demographic of people, has its demographics changed, the community, group or thing comprised of that demographic of people has its culture changed as well
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 01:17 AM
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You’re thinking very literally and concretely, and believing that the idea of a “space” as in what liberal people call their clubs, is what constitutes what something or who something is “for”.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 01:09 AM
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If you opened up Reddit when it began, that last thing you’d thing was “yeah there’s girls here”
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 12:56 AM
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If you showed up at that gay bath house, you COULD go there, but if you did, they would definitely think “this isn’t for you”. Because it’s not. Not sure what is so difficult to understand
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 12:53 AM
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Abstract the concept of who the book is for, apply it to who Reddit is for, there ya go. If you need it to be more literal, compare it to a book club for it then. technically, a man could show up to a book club for a court of thornes, but he would feel extremely awkward, why? Because it’s not for him. That was Reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 12:40 AM
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If I pick up a court of thorn and roses nowhere on the book does it say it’s for women but it is. The woman wrote it to appeal to women. So now in this metaphor replace it with Reddit. That’s how things work. People don’t make things and proclaim it’s for a certain demographic, the demographic that it appeals to just congregates there
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 12:05 AM
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That’s not how things work, people don’t make spaces and declare it’s FOR a certain demographic, they just congregate and the content of the group reflects who it’s for. The fact that you likely didn’t know Reddit existed until maybe like 3 years ago max proves the point
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 11:55 PM
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Do you need me to define every word in my sentences? I’m sure you can understand what I’m saying without me needing to do so
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 11:53 PM
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Because it was made by nerdy men for nerdy men
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 11:14 PM
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It was, when it was made
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 10:38 PM
4

Reddit itself is the most prominent example I can think of
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 10:24 PM
1

I’ve always questioned why modern women want to be men so bad
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 10:20 PM
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Men care about a woman’s past, a woman cares about a man’s future. If you go to therapy, it’ll make her concerned about your future stability
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 06:07 PM
4

Think of it in tribal instincts and it makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 10:51 PM
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As soon as a girl starts interrogating me to see if I meet her stats I’m out. Such a disgusting and dehumanizing way to date, no real relationship will form from that. I wish women would learn this
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 09:48 PM
0

As a dude, being nice is the last thing you want to do. Makes you boring and predictable. Be a dick, it’s much sexier to women
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 11:39 PM
1

Date casually yes Marry no
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 11:33 PM
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I think by any logic that sub is full of man hate lol. It’s a 100% fem cel sub
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 11:31 PM
3

They want to be a wife for the status not the responsibilities lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 11:29 PM
3

It’s all about status, the chaser has lower status than the chased
/r/seduction29/09/25 02:54 PM
2

What in the world is this logic lol
/r/seduction28/09/25 09:58 PM
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Bar for height, looks, income and status is very very high, bar for behavior or personality or IQ is very very low
/r/seduction28/09/25 08:24 PM
1

We never had super computers that connected us to everyone in the entire world at all times in the palm of our hands until now, that is indeed something new under the sun
/r/seduction25/09/25 11:57 PM
1

They don’t have to be 19 to act like this, 26 and under usually acts like this
/r/seduction25/09/25 11:44 PM
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Young women these days are raised with the glowing rectangle in their hand. They don’t know a dating world that didn’t have hinge as its center. The concept of a man coming up and talking to them is foreign and weird. I’m not saying it’s impossible or hopeless, I still cold approach myself. But if the girl is younger, man they are so weird and awkward, I couldn’t imagine if I was still a 19 year old man trying to hit on them like I used to
/r/seduction25/09/25 11:39 PM
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It’s not doomerism, it’s reality. My dating life actually isn’t bad, but I can still see things for what they are even if I’m successful within the system. Denying reality only works so far. It’s not hopeless for every man, but man the odds are stacked against
/r/seduction25/09/25 10:43 PM
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Dating has changed, you dated before OLD, it’s a whole different universe now. Speaking also as someone who has dated before and after online dating dominated the dating market. You’re competing with every man she sees when she opens up her hinge profile. Reduced to stats, height, school, job, social circle, face aesthetics. Why would she ever choose less than what she can get on her phone? It’s logical for her to have standards that high, but it has destroyed dating
/r/seduction25/09/25 10:29 PM
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Are you a man? I’m not sure you genuinely compete in the dating market if that’s what you believe
/r/seduction25/09/25 10:06 PM
1

Black pill is “looks are all that matters period” This is not what I’m saying. I’m saying that looks are the first barrier to even get a chance to play the game to show your other traits. Which, they are. The other traits matter for long term, but you still only get consideration for them once you pass the first barrier
/r/seduction25/09/25 09:59 PM
2

Useful: yes Ethical: no Legal: not sure?
/r/seduction25/09/25 08:04 PM
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Underselling the importance of looks by far, in this hyper competitive market, looks are by far the first and most important barrier, then the other attributes start to matter after you pass that bar
/r/seduction25/09/25 07:31 PM
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Incredible this is downvoted and you received backlash. This is a logical conclusion backed by evidence
/r/seduction25/09/25 07:30 PM
7

The most unfortunate timing of my life, I was going through a major negative life event, had to leave the city. I had sex with her the day before I moved out
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 02:30 PM
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Probably nothing, it’s the carrot on the stick. I had sex with a super enthusiastic beautiful girl years ago, at the end I thought “that’s it, I did it… I can die happy now, what else is there to accomplish?”. Now that I’m older, I realize I want a family, but that still requires me to find a woman. So the motivation remains
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 10:22 PM
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Women get rejected later on, men get rejected upfront. When a man won’t commit to you, that’s the women’s form of rejection. What to do, try to figure out what men like, what makes them want to commit, and become that. Pretty simple
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 08:03 PM
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It was not communal, you weren’t protected because you were a woman, you were protected because you were someone’s woman. The men band together to defend their women. A old village girl with no connections received no protection, no provision, and was seen as a burden. Not to mention inter village disputes, where you’d need your man to defend you in the case another man tries to take you, or force himself on you, etc. You’re blinded by modern governments, you think things have always worked with…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 05:00 PM
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If you were in a village (which most of the world was pre industrial society), who would protect the village? You think they could phone the state police force to come by and help? Inter village disputes, etc. the world of today is vastly different than it was before.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 01:36 PM
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Protection (police, military), provision (welfare state, child support with courts tilted towards women heavily, allowing her to access a man’s resources regardless if he wants to or not, or if he is even in the home), status (single motherhood is not as looked down on as it used to be, divorce is acceptable and common). The state is the husband, the taxpayer is the father
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 11:18 PM
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Women want the social status of the relationship, not the relationship. They want the validation of “this man committed to me” and being able to show him off. They don’t actually want any responsibilities of a relationship, that’s not the point. Men have limited use to women, the government takes care of all needs men used to, so now men are essentially just useful for status signaling, like a handbag. The only way a woman can achieve status from association with a man, is through a long term re…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 11:05 PM
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This is typically what men do when they have no options for social climbing, because why participate in a society that will never reward you? No incentives. Only reason it hasn’t gotten especially bad (yet), is because of porn video games and weed sedating men
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 09:03 PM
2

Those are physical attributes, not behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 02:42 PM
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If they didn’t look down on it, why would it turn them off?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 04:54 AM
22

Isn’t it looking down on gayness?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 03:32 AM
33

I think the common feminist counter point to “women voted for trump” is “they’re brainwashed” or “their abusive husbands forced them”
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 03:32 AM
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Most of the time girls will do this if you’re much more attractive than them, if they’re average attractiveness you’ll usually at least need a date before they come over. I’ve only had one time where the girl was gorgeous and for some reason all over me and basically was like “oh you have x? Let’s go to your place and see it I really want to!” Highlight of my life prob
/r/seduction20/09/25 06:42 PM
1

But attractive is very vague, what exact physically qualities does he find attractive? That’s typically the focal point, and if he left it out, it would be weird
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 04:12 AM
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If I asked a dude what qualities he found attractive in women and he just said “feminine”, I’d be like “ok and what else?”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 11:00 PM
1

Vibes != logical deduction
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 02:10 AM
1

So you skipped over the results from that study that showed women score higher on benevolence, security, and universalism? Moral language surrounding social justice etc. You don’t see how all women clustering toward a very specific ideology all at the same time is a sign of being shaped by whatever current culture tells them to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 01:29 AM
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Women cross culturally value traits such as conformity and social harmony more than men, men value traits such as independence and openness to change. This is a global compendium of stated values. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10473998/ Women clustering into political groupthink - men not changing. Showing a clustering of ideology among women. https://news.gallup.com/poll/609914/women-become-liberal-men-mostly-stable.aspx Culture sets the values, culture changes, women are more likely…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 12:05 AM
2

What type of source would convince you? If the answer is “none”, you’re not arguing in good faith and I will not bother
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 11:01 PM
1

Using moralism to shut down dissent is, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 10:03 PM
1

And in China if you speak out against the CCP you get in trouble for “disrupting social order and harmony”, anyone can use any moralism to enforce silence, yours are no different. The function is the same, to silence those you disagree with
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 09:44 PM
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The strict rules show fear, hence I’m not wrong. The world is much less polite than words on a screen could ever be, better get used to it
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 07:32 PM
2

They fear questions, in an ask me questions subreddit. Not sure what is hard to understand with my point
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 07:23 PM
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The rules being unnecessarily strict and authoritarian in a ask subreddit is the point I am making. It shows fear of the people they are meant to beget questions from.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 07:20 PM
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“Behaving properly” is vague and defined by those who control what they want that to mean. Point is, they clearly fear people asking questions, in a subreddit where that is the point
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 07:15 PM
1

Sounds like you need to walk on egg shells to ask a simple question. Which is my original point
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 07:03 PM
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Post there on an account posing as a man and ask a question, see it from the other side perhaps
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 06:52 PM
2

Women are more or less entirely shaped by whatever culture they reside in, whatever the culture values, they value. Until a different culture becomes dominant, then they swap to that one. It’s a survival strategy
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 06:22 PM
0

I think it’s the reverse, askwomen sub is afraid of men
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 06:21 PM
2

Someone’s been reading Schopenhauer huh
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 01:56 PM
3

I’ve had a couple women end things with me, or have first dates explode into arguments once they find out I didn’t vote. Tik tok brain virus activities. I just roll my eyes and leave
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 11:03 PM
8

It’s not individual failure that’s causing this but structural. There are no communities anymore, no religion, nothing. Everything is commodified, dating is turned into a business, and it was never meant to operate this way anyway. Solutions? Not sure, I don’t think everything has a solution. Sometimes things are just past the point of no return, brace for impact, enjoy the decline, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 09:40 PM
8

I don’t think teaching would help, there’s a reason that the only people who are ok with “not wanting” are extremist monks who live in isolated temples
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 09:33 PM
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I’m not saying the solution isn’t logical, but humans aren’t logical, and aren’t robots. Applying this “why don’t you just do optimal solution devoid of humanity or emotion” to anything else humans do, is naive at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 09:20 PM
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Just forgo all desires and needs past the bare minimum to exist as a biological organism and become a Buddhist monk, bro. What’s your next great revelation? “Why don’t people who are at war.. just stop?”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 09:15 PM
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Nah if the girl is pretty enough she gets approached a lot, I’ve seen it a ton, and they even bring it up when I approach that they get approached all the time
/r/seduction10/09/25 11:37 PM
1

Extremely unethical, but probably very useful
/r/seduction10/09/25 02:41 PM
4

It’s not “this thing works here therefore everywhere”, it’s “this thing works everywhere therefore here”. Dating Apps stopped releasing their data, ever wonder why?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 08:57 PM
9

“I don’t like that this is true, so instead of thinking about it, I’ll just say it’s not true! No thinking needed!” A classic https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareto_principle
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 08:39 PM
5

The preto principle shows up in every domain ever, it’s a pattern of human existence, the dating market is no exception
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 06:42 PM
10

Denial of reality is the most common way to deal with it, but reality catches up to you eventually
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 05:42 PM
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In a way you’re right because it’s honestly more like 95/5
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 04:43 PM
2

Let’s use less politically charged movements, but yes the enlightenment was huge. It had positives, and negatives. Every action has a reaction. The enlightenment brought us rationality, logic, reason, but at the cost of traditional structures. Religion and tradition had a function, it bonded people together, gave them a sense of purpose, a sense of meaning, a sense of belonging. Now, they’re gone. The butterfly effect of this has lead us to here, no community, no sense of belonging, atomization.…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 04:18 AM
2

I did some surface level research into this topic and holy shit you’re right, that’s an actual huge issue that should be getting attention but is not. That’s a functional problem that a lot of young girls deal with in parts of America we often forget. I do feel like modern feminism dilutes those real issues, because I haven’t even heard of this or knew of this until now.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 03:29 AM
1

I agree with you on the corporate capture of feminism but can you elaborate on that child marriage part? I’m not sure what that is but now I’m curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 03:01 AM
1

If the stay at home parent model is now not reachable for the vast majority of people, due to girl boss culture putting a ton of women into the workforce, doesn’t that imply feminism more or less forced people into having both parents work?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 02:54 AM
1

You’re saying that feminism forced both parents to work correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 02:47 AM
3

The woman being sold pharmaceuticals is very interesting to me. There’s a ton of money being made there, it’s worrying. I wonder if it does tie into feminism. I suppose it does, corporate girl boss culture, the rat race, cubicle life. Then sell you anti depressants to forget it and go do it again.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 02:42 AM
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You’re speaking moralistically, I’m speaking functionally. Feminism was a shift in global culture that changed how civilization has worked since it’s inception. It was not a simple action, it was an entire dimension shift. To suggest something so massive could happen and have no unforeseen/negative consequences isn’t rationality, it’s blind faith
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 02:19 AM
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If someone’s answer to “what are the pros and cons of x” is “there are no cons”, they’re not arguing in good faith nor from a place of rationality. The “I do not see any negatives to feminism” tells me a lot more information than you think it does And its mass use here is telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 02:06 AM
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Good and evil are subjective constructs, not absolute universal truths
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 12:50 AM
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They’ll never reward you for parroting their words the way you hope they will
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 12:49 AM
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How does the mod remove comments that are actually constructive but not this nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 12:49 AM
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Logic disqualifies it, I just bring it to light
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 12:09 AM
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Because you clearly use your mod powers in a vindictive way, not for moderation but for vengeance. For example, using the “content less rhetoric” warning on me when I responded to you. And deleting comments of men who are speaking of the dynamic that is being presented in this thread. I know you want to ban me, because you disagree with what I say.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 11:37 PM
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Yes and in North Korea saying that Kim Jung un is fat and dumb would get them banned from life there too, doesn’t mean the one doing the banning is right
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 11:28 PM
2

Oh it had meaning, perhaps you just understood little of it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 11:21 PM
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Uh no, ground it in realistic consequences, not fantastical projection of “hates women”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 11:20 PM
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What am I backing up? It was a question for women, not a thesis
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 11:13 PM
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No need to get into specifics, especially because there’s a mod in here who’s upset at me and is probably dying to find a reason to ban me. So I’ll just say, more than 0
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 11:10 PM
1

Yup, it’s why I was basically able to predict the answers before they gave them, but many still gave them anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 11:01 PM
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It’s not the ideas that have consequences, but the actions to enact these ideas. They shift things, change things, these actions always have positives and negatives. As all things do
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 10:55 PM
5

The first movement in history that has only has positive consequences, that’s remarkable… almost.. unbelievable
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 10:52 PM
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This thread isn’t about my beliefs, I’m asking women. Also I don’t really want to get banned. The mod that posted in this thread already hates me, don’t wanna give her any excuse
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 10:48 PM
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There isn’t really anything to counter, you didn’t really provide a actual negative outcome of feminism, you just offloaded the negative outcomes to someone else and blamed them
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 10:46 PM
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Were not discussing which gender is “strong” in a abstract sense, we’re discussing biological functions. Men are physically stronger
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 10:44 PM
1

I tried to call it out as I forsaw these answers before I made the thread, but I guess even when predicted it still happens. I guess it shows the depth of this belief
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 10:41 PM
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Because we’re discussion the biological functions of the two genders here, one is made for risk and combat the other nurturing and birth
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 10:39 PM
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It’s very convenient that every negative outcome can be blame on someone else, but all positives can be attributed to you. You clearly see feminism more as a religion than a rational stance, which is what I was really testing for
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 10:34 PM
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Ideas do nothing, actions do. What actions were taken in pursuit of those ideas, and what were the consequences of those actions? What were the positive ones, what were the negative ones?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 10:23 PM
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Everything has pros and cons, tradeoffs, every action, every movement. You’re speaking from morality, I’m speaking from function, cause and effect
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 10:19 PM
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And feminism contributed nothing at all to any negative outcome at all? It’s all something else’s fault? That’s a bit convenient no?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 10:16 PM
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Every movement or action has both negative and positive consequences, there is never something gained for nothing lost. Especially a massive unprecedented shift in social structure. To admit no negative consequences shows faith based belief, not rational based. It’s more akin to a religion than it is a logical stance
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 10:15 PM
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Everything is a chain of a decision or action of one before it, but there is always a line one can draw where you can say “this outcome was mostly influenced by this moment”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 10:09 PM
4

Isn’t this just a way of saying men suck?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 10:08 PM
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So it’s more of a religion than a rational stance to you
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 10:06 PM
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Also shields you from criticism, because even though you can be morally superior to them, if they criticize you it’s still “punching down”, it’s clever, but annoying to deal with irl
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 10:00 PM
1

Giving birth isn’t fighting another living being, different function
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 09:59 PM
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It’s not the idea that has had the negative consequences, but ideas must be enacted with function, and those functions to enact the idea have rippling effects especially one as big as feminism. Those effects are always both good and bad, there are always tradeoffs. That’s what I’m focusing on
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 09:59 PM
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Physically soft, less muscle mass, more layers of fat under their skin, smaller, less dense bone mass, they aren’t built for physical combat, but men clearly are
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 09:56 PM
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I agree, I have thought of this as well. It is ironic that it pushes choice for women… “but not that one”. If women do not vote how they do, do what they do, dress how they do, the amount of shaming is quite something. I’ve seen it online, and in person.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 09:54 PM
1

Then why are women soft but men are strong? The mentality reflects the function
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 09:52 PM
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Because every action has consequences, both good and bad. There are always tradeoffs, especially when they’re massive social shifts
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 09:51 PM
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He needs to take risks when young to prove that he’s worth being selected to provide and protect, even then, the protecting is the risk, someone’s gotta put their life on the line when needed
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 09:51 PM
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More logical, why would a man not be more risk taking? A woman gives birth, that’s extremely valuable, not something to take risks with
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 09:48 PM
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Red pill is just a series of mens discussions on the true nature of women and the dating market, not an ideology. You’re probably thinking of new age red pill, I’m old, I’m more 2013 red pill. I labeled myself because this forum makes me, but I do not think of myself as a “red pill dude”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 09:46 PM
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Men are biologically more risk taking, willing to worker harsher jobs, longer hours, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 09:43 PM
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How does that extend into job selection though? Or income differences? If you admit the sexes are different, couldn’t these discrepancies be due to biological tendencies? There may be nothing to actually fix, it’s just how men and women are. Men take more risks, work more manual labor and risky jobs, work more hours, etc. just due to their biological tendencies. Women are more conservative in their behavior, because they’re simply more valuable to society alive than a man
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 09:41 PM
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Yup, I reached that conclusion myself. My goal is to reach financial freedom to not be beholden to their whims. I’ve dropped any sort of political ideology, just me, my family, and whoever is close to me, all that matters
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 09:40 PM
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I think foundational to a lot of feminist ideology is the blank slate theory, because you can’t have “equality”, if the sexes are biologically not the same. So they stand upon the blank slate concept, but that creates a foundation built off a falsehood
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 09:38 PM
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I think one of the weaknesses or strengths I suppose, of feminism is that it doesn’t really have a solid definition. “Equality” can mean a million things to a million people. This makes it hard to attack, because then you can go “that’s not feminism”, but hard to actually support, because it’s “well.. what exactly are we supporting”?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 09:34 PM
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Agreed, but I’d argue if it were not feminism they’d use something else. Like race or whatever, plenty of buttons to push
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 09:33 PM
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Functionally, yes. If not, then what separates friends from romantic partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 09:27 PM
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Oppression Olympics are due to modern culture using victimhood as a status marker. Likely a by product of feminism, more indirect though
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 09:26 PM
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Interesting, I gotta say I didn’t anticipate just answering with a non answer then denial
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 09:24 PM
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You said “negative outcomes of feminism have been that men are bad”, which I predicted and called out
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 09:19 PM
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What separates it functionally?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 09:18 PM
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I called this type of answer out already, and disqualified it, sorry If you scroll up you can see I mentioned “I’ll nip some Reddit answers in the bud to hopefully encourage actual discussion: “Negative outcomes of feminism have been that men are bad/worse, it exposed how oppressed women are, it didn’t go far enough, etc””
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 09:17 PM
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Isn’t this just a friendship?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 09:12 PM
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Easy playbook to counter all arguments presented: Since feminism is defined as vague “whatever woman does”, and doesn’t really have a set of agreed principles that one can dismantle, and is mostly just “whatever feels good”, we can use this to our advantage. When one points out a contradiction, we simply say “that isn’t feminism”, then if a piece of self labeled feminist media is presented that presents the idea that one is trying to contradict, one can say “that’s not actual feminism either”. B…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 07:54 PM
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Dangerously based
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 07:48 PM
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I had this theory too, women absolutely seem to want to be afraid, to be in danger, to not feel safe, but also not actually in danger, just the feeling. It makes them feel excited and alive. Men get their adrenaline fix from risk, gambling, combat, etc. Women get it from artificial fear
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 04:15 PM
2

How dare you shame me into leaving! How could you??
/r/seduction04/09/25 12:13 AM
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Ok, I’m gonna live in your apartment, and any attempt you make to make me leave, I’ll simply say it’s inexcusable and shame you. Deal? I mean you’re the moral one here. I’m on my way!
/r/seduction04/09/25 12:10 AM
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It’s inexcusable to cry to make an awful person choose to leave me instead of forcing her out and causing conflict? Why? Are you suggesting that forcing her to leave and throwing her stuff on the sidewalk would have been better? She wouldn’t leave, and when I tried to tell her to leave she would guilt shame and tantrum her way to not leaving. It’s cute to play the moral high ground, but real life doesn’t work that way. One day you’ll learn
/r/seduction04/09/25 12:08 AM
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Why do you assume her innocence? She was manipulative and awful to live with. I wanted her gone. When id try, she’d throw an actual tantrum and guilt and shame me into not kicking her out. Clearly that was not working. I thought of ways to make her repulsed by me, so one night I cried. She didn’t fight to stay any longer
/r/seduction04/09/25 12:05 AM
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We broke up and she moved in with her friend. She was a free-loader so she just had to go down her list of suckers to mooch off of instead of me
/r/seduction03/09/25 11:58 PM
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I don’t think crying is quite the same as a tantrum. It was the better option, it was either cry to make her lose attraction and want to leave, or force her to leave and cause a huge drama filled fight. I’d do it again
/r/seduction03/09/25 11:56 PM
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Of course lmao, easiest breakup ever
/r/seduction03/09/25 11:54 PM
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I’ve done this because she was living at my apt and I wanted her to leave, so I cried in front of her intentionally to make her lose attraction so I didn’t have to kick her out and cause a fight.
/r/seduction03/09/25 11:29 PM
3

I highly doubt you’re 5’5 at 115 pounds and have fat around your stomach. There’s some distortion of reality here
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 09:33 PM
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More so that makeup isn’t that big of a deal and as a man I must do much more intense work to be attractive than painting my face
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 09:32 PM
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She lived with me in a small studio apartment, there was no way I couldn’t see everything she did lol. I actually do shave my butt armpits etc, obviously my face too
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 07:19 PM
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*Makes point *refuses to defend it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 07:18 PM
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Mkay, so yeah, find another struggle, makeup isn’t the flag to stand behind here
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 06:52 PM
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It’s more so that it’s a changeable attribute that matters
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 06:42 PM
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No matter what evidence I bring up you will simply say “that’s not feminism”, we can directly correlate the advent of feminism to increased promiscuity among women, decline in marriage, and transactional relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 06:40 PM
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Tell that to modern feminism and maybe they’ll stop glorifying it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 06:35 PM
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She’s clearly wearing a ton of makeup. I’ve been with many women, I’ve lived with women, I’ve taken showers with them. Makeup isn’t really that big of a deal
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 06:31 PM
1

So that’s your one thing? Makeup? Most men prefer natural or minimal makeup, not a full face with foundation and all that
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 06:25 PM
2

Even if that were true, which it strictly is not, it’s still achievable by anyone
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 06:23 PM
2

It’s don’t look fat I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 06:19 PM
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I have lived with one. She was a dancer in nyc so her appearance was always her one main priority. Still wasn’t that much. Mostly just shaving and makeup. I do shave too. And moisturize. I also work out 5 days a week
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 06:17 PM
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You could always lose the fat, where it ends up is genetic but it’s still possible to lessen the amount you carry
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 06:16 PM
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What in your eyes is that difficult thing women must do every day to attract men?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 06:16 PM
2

Ah yes, resources, we can all live without resources
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 06:15 PM
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I have dated women, and I also can use my brain to deduce what they do to look beautiful. Step 1 is typically be born and step 2 is don’t fuck it up
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 05:59 PM
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Men are attracted to aesthetics not stats. If a girl is healthy bmi but carries all her excess fat in her stomach and nowhere else, she will simply just look fat regardless of what her bmi is. You can also have a higher end bmi girl who carries all her fat in estrogen areas like hips ass thighs butt and she’ll be sexy
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 05:55 PM
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Getting dates, resources, attention, and favors from men. If you want commitment from a high level one though, then you gotta try
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 05:52 PM
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I think the insults go towards people like Amy shcumer, she is not funny, but is given a Netflix special and is propped up as if she were funny. This is reward without merit, unearned prestige. So, the natural reaction is to tell it like it is “Amy Schumer isn’t funny”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 05:51 PM
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Well if she wants marriage she’s gonna actually have to try yes, but few women often do
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 05:44 PM
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Shaving and putting moisturizer on at the end and start of the day isn’t that hard
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 05:42 PM
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Modern culture has shifted the idea of what is fat in the eyes of society but you can’t shift the concept of fat from biological male attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 05:41 PM
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Only when they make jokes, but it doesn’t mean that’s what they want in a romantic partner
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 05:41 PM
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No man has ever asked for his woman to be funny, that’s a odd one
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 04:53 PM
1

If you were trying to sell a service, which was a well provided one, but all your potential clients wanted perfection for a fraction of the price you’re asking for, would you not be frustrated? Or would you keep that same mentality
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 04:51 PM
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Of course it’s true. We swapped to a cubicle computer work, masculine pursuits are demonized, competition is shunned, not to mention hormones in food and such. Why would we have as much testosterone as our ancestors who had to fight and hunt and such?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 04:49 PM
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Basically this boils down to “don’t be fat, don’t be annoying”, pretty easy bar to meet
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 04:46 PM
2

Women are more focused on the connotation of words than literal definitions of them
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 10:38 PM
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Yes I am registered for the draft as all American men are required to be
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 12:36 AM
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America does indeed have the draft
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 11:52 PM
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Ukraine and Russia war shows that no, technology hasn’t come close to not needing men for the meat grinder
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 11:49 PM
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Gonna just ignore the weird thing you said, but wars are caused by much more than any one singular president.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 11:33 PM
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If you take my place in the draft in the war to come, I’ll get pregnant and poop out babies, deal?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 10:58 PM
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Were used to women acting entitled to everything we have or do, so when a woman acts in a giving way vs taking way, it surprises us, and makes us like her.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 08:36 PM
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What in the world are you talking about? This is about contributing to society at large
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 09:05 PM
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? What? Form the logic of your argument first, because I can’t see any in that emotional tantrum of yours
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 09:05 PM
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How long have you been on it?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 09:39 PM
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You’re speaking of something else entirely, not the idea I’m presenting
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 05:34 PM
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So your argument is that demand increased at a 1:1 ratio that the supply of labor did? Where did all this sudden demand for labor come from?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 05:31 PM
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So if everyone thought like you, we’d have no firemen, exactly the issue with your thinking. So why do you feel entitled to the firemen’s help but not to return it?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 05:29 PM
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They are most often volunteers, and if they are not, they are super underpaid. So money is clearly not their motivation
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 05:21 PM
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So if your apartment is on fire and you call the firemen to come help you, who is that fireman to you? And who are you to that fireman? Should he adopt the same mindset you have?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 05:13 PM
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It works to get laid if done well
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 05:11 PM
1

Because the world doesn’t revolve around you
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 05:08 PM
1

In basic economics, supply vs demand, if you double supply, what happens to demand?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 05:07 PM
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Are you on birth control or ssris?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 04:55 PM
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Would you buy a used car for the price of a new one? Probably not, there’s your answer
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 08:36 PM
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No, not who YOU are, I meant who you ARE, as in men value women for who they are, women value men for what they do
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 12:07 AM
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Those all sound like who you are to me
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 11:05 PM
5

Not reading chat gpt copy paste use your words
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 09:10 PM
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How would they not? What is the logic tree for that
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 05:06 PM
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I think 6 6 6 got inflated now, competition got even harder IME/IMO. It’s now 6.5, 6.5, 6.5
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 12:21 AM
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Are you in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 11:31 PM
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What do you want to discuss about this? Dating is brutal and shallow? Yeah it is
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 04:37 PM
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I was told to post this under auto mod even though I am challenging the OPs view… whatever: This is just the “just world fallacy”, humans do it in general, women do it extra in this context to avoid needing to feel guilt for not caring about failed men. We often do this with everyone, rich people are seen as better people than poor people (they deserve their wealth because they’re skilled, a good person etc) poor people we often see as deserving it for some reason (bad character, no morals etc).…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 03:31 PM
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This is just the “just world fallacy”, humans do it in general, women do it extra in this context to avoid needing to feel guilt for not caring about failed men. We often do this with everyone, rich people are seen as better people than poor people, poor people we often see as deserving it for some reason (bad character, no morals etc). We as humans don’t like to acknowledge that life is unfair and that most of what humans are or have is decided by RNG at birth. We NEED to moralize the hierarchy…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 03:21 PM
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This is just the “just world fallacy”, humans do it in general, women do it extra in this context to avoid needing to feel guilt for not caring about failed men. We often do this with everyone, rich people are seen as better people than poor people, poor people we often see as deserving it for some reason (bad character, no morals etc). We as humans don’t like to acknowledge that life is unfair and that most of what humans are or have is decided by RNG at birth. We NEED to moralize the hierarchy…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 03:20 PM
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Depends on how desperate the man is, but non desperate men want to have sex with women because that particular woman attracts him.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 02:03 PM
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I’d argue that someone wanting to have sex with you is more “you” than your resources are “you”. You can’t give someone else your looks, but you can give someone else your resources
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 01:56 PM
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I think you picture the conversation as me sitting across from her asking her if she was a hoe and cross examining her answers for authenticity. You just have a normal ass conversation and she’ll probably bring up her past. “Do you miss college?” “Oh yeah totally it was so much fun!” “You look like the sorority type… let me guess, ZTA?” “Oh hahaha no I was in ΦΠ!” Have you ever been on a normal date?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 04:22 PM
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No, you ask about college etc, if she’s now looking for a long term serious relationship, but when you ask about her past she was wild party hook up fest, well then you have your answer
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 03:56 PM
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You talk with this person that you’re dating
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 12:25 PM
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It depends on the battlefield, after college the market becomes global, so the average dude is drowned out quick
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 01:32 AM
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You use your wealth of experience to assess her and her history, was she always like this? Is she young? Is she old? Did she have a party phase? Tattoos? How does she dress? What’s her social media like? How does she speak of her past relationships? Etc etc
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 12:57 AM
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Because she wants something from you? Isn’t that obvious?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 12:54 AM
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Men and women love differently, if you’re asking “what are the odds a woman loves me the way I love her” the answer is 0, because we do not work the same. However I feel you’re asking “what are the odds I can get a woman attracted to me despite being average looking”, and the answer is, it depends. OLD? Nearly 0, but in closed communities like high school or college, your odds are higher by multitudes. Just try not to graduate without a woman on your arm, because then you’re fucked
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 12:50 AM
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You’re referencing concepts the movie made in the very post that you just made… then you make a comment in that very thread saying it’s irrelevant. Someone please call a doctor because my brain is shutting off
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:43 PM
3

I agree, that disgusted me
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:32 PM
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Oh sweet summer honey child
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:10 PM
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Typically women don’t have issues attracting men; they have issues keeping them. They’re not typically incentivized to develop these interests because it wouldn’t help them attract more men, it’ll only help them keep them once the man is attracted. Typically the woman is so focused on filtering the man, she won’t think of what she could do to keep the man that passes the filters
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 11:45 PM
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The idea is not that women’s attraction is fixed, it’s that they can lose it very easily, see: “icks”. This doesn’t counter women losing the ability to pair bond, they’re separate mechanisms
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 11:40 PM
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Religious? Who’s the deity? What does the red pill worship?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 04:45 PM
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“Women are the oldest teenager in the room” is a classic saying for a reason
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 06:23 PM
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Tabula rasa is foundational to feminist belief
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 06:31 PM
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lol thank you for stating my thought and then taking the heat in my stead 🫡. Most women are the same, it’s by design, it’s just how women are wired to operate. The form a cohesive hive mind because that’s simply how they’re wired to survive, it’s why they’re always aware of social dynamics and not being ostracized or different, because different means exclusion meaning death. It’s why women use language to shame and police “pick me”, “incel”, etc. these words mean “you’re out of the group, get b…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 09:49 PM
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Uh no, the truths go deeper than you can imagine. You’re at level 0.5 with “women are more sensitive to bad feedback”, this isn’t uncomfortable territory, it gets way way worse
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 07:28 PM
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Quite the opposite, this is not a “uncomfortable truth”, it’s an obvious one. That’s what I’m making fun of. This isn’t really a deep thing you’ve discovered, I’m equating it to discovering women also give birth. AKA I’m making a joke saying “duh”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 07:01 PM
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They also give birth too! Any other insane revelations you want to uncover together?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 06:50 PM
5

Face and height, then physique is a little bit of a cherry on top, not required and only some women like it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 06:29 PM
2

We don’t. You just said “same hormonal reward system” then yadi yadad the rest. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 07:13 PM
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Except there is a huge difference and denying it is silly and not productive. One gender gives birth, the other fights and builds. To think we’re the same is like thinking cats and dogs are the same. There is nothing wrong with being different. There is no logical reason to resist the simple idea that we are fundamentally different, we are, it’s not bad or good, it just is
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 07:06 PM
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Well I’m sure marriage rates are lower than they’ve ever been no?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 07:02 PM
2

Yes, we’re very different. Denying the differences leads to confusion, frustration and conflict
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 07:00 PM
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They have a different brain wiring and simply don’t get the enjoyment dopamine hits than men do with video games. Video games simulate achievement, “leveling up”, “exp”, “gear stats” etc. This replaces real life skill acquisition
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 06:46 PM
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That’s just the amount of existing couples living together, not the amount of couples total. They live together now more because the middle class is gone and they need to split rent
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 06:31 PM
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Men do not feel attraction to women due to status, that is how women’s attraction mechanics work, not men’s. We’re attracted to youth, health, symmetry, and neotenous features. Women are attracted to status and its proxies (height, nonchalance, social reverence) etc. The fashion world is filtered by gay men, so models aren’t chosen to fit “most beautiful woman alive” in a male attraction sense, they see women more as art pieces but not as attraction triggers. This is why models have “looks” or “…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 08:53 PM
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She edited her comment and removed the part which I was referencing, likely due to everyone pointing it out
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 06:52 PM
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She didn’t mention men, I’m disproving that pour specifically
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 06:24 PM
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Cool, well she didn’t say men operate on the species best interest did she
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 06:24 PM
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Women do not operate on the species best interest they operate on their own best interest
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 04:18 PM
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I think it does, not that it’s just or right but if people don’t want to love you, objectively, you’re less worthy of love. World sucks and is unfair, we’re all dealt a set of attributes by roll of the dice, some win, some lose
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 04:16 PM
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How come your tag says man when you’re clearly a woman? I can tell from how you write/what you say
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 10:21 PM
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Do you have looking for long term on your profile? Likely why
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 09:29 PM
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No, you don’t need money, you need money and looks and height and status. Money by itself is useless outside of hiring escorts. Which I recommend you do. They don’t just fuck they’re professionals, you pay them and their job is to be a good date. Just do that. It’s basically modern dating anyway, but with a actual promised pay off
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 12:20 AM
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To be honest I have no idea what actual point you’re making but calling modern women trans due to feminism making them act like men is very funny, so due to that, I agree with this message
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 11:50 PM
0

“Just be rich” of advice
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 11:47 PM
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Cause a bunch of dudes going out to a club together isn’t fun unless you’re attracted to men
/r/seduction06/07/25 07:31 PM
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He’s famous and rich as fuck, he’s not exactly some no name dude in a wheelchair. He has qualities women find attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 09:48 PM
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It’s not that he lied it’s that he’s short, if he lied about his height but was actually taller, she would have no issue. Don’t parrot what they say
/r/seduction29/06/25 11:34 PM
0

If the man is your age but pursuing women in their 20s how would you end up dating them?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 06:10 PM
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It’s just a shaming tactic that’s all
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 06:09 PM
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This is probably gonna get removed and you may be banned, but before it happens, yeah you’re pretty much correct
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 01:41 AM
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And struggle to keep
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 11:35 PM
2

It ramps up ( or down rather ) from 27-30. At least in terms of long term commitment. It isn’t so much that they’re just suddenly ugly at 30, but when you’re asking for a high price like long term exclusive commitment, yeah your dating value is much much lower at that age. Gotta move quick
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 12:46 AM
5

How hot is the girl in question?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 05:53 PM
8

Exactly. The profile reeks of bitterness, jadedness, and analyzing you as a lifestyle upgrade. Why would I participate in this?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 04:17 PM
15

Yup this is 100% true no matter how much she likes you, if you give her security in your affection for her, you tell her you like her, she will lose attraction. The more attractive she is the stronger this effect
/r/seduction15/06/25 08:10 PM
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Do you want science that shows the measured amount of testosterone in a woman vs a man? Or can I just show you a picture of a woman and a man? Do you need me to explain that grass is green too? Women compete with other women for status, men compete for women
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 04:56 PM
1

The women and children
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 02:52 AM
0

Do you have a issue with biology?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 02:51 AM
1

Women don’t have testosterone to make working out feel as good as men do
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 01:49 AM
1

Yes and your wife can poison you and a thunderbolt can kill you tomorrow, there’s no utopia
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 12:03 AM
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Every woman ever was abused by their husband and their brother and their father? No, back then your husband would be vetted by the family first, then if he abused you, your brothers and/or father would come and beat the shit out of him. This is the “protective father” idea that feminism destroyed too
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 10:47 PM
2

What?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 10:37 PM
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Men provide more than resources, they also protect. Until the government collapses and it can’t be women’s daddy anymore, yeah men are useless. This is why men are depressed and lonely, we have no purpose… until a war starts. However I’ll be doing everything I can to not be drafted, I will never die fighting for a state that spits on me until I’m needed. Good luck
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 09:48 PM
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Men will sacrifice everything for the ones they love, and they’ve done it throughout history. Aka, their lives. And even after the ones they love are gone, they will still try to
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 05:29 PM
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They’re loyal to the original one, hence the point
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 05:29 PM
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Because it means they’re loyal to a fault. If they never move on then they’re dependable through all
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 04:11 PM
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I quantify love as devotion and unending loyalty, so in my eyes the ease of moving on means they love less hard
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 04:10 PM
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Exactly, you’re witnessing biological mechanics at work. She moved on because if she didn’t the tribe would collapse. It’s why women can move on from anything easier than men, and men never do. This includes children, dating, love etc
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 03:21 PM
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Your dad couldn’t get over it because men aren’t designed to let go the way women are. Women are made to move on for survival, men aren’t meant to let go because when we invest it’s for life
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 02:15 PM
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It shows devotion and connection that won’t break, that’s love
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 01:18 PM
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A woman whom you care about, caring and loving you, is one of the best feelings in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 11:22 PM
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Yeah OP you can see a thread I posted a while back detailed “men look back on their exes more fondly” it was a study which basically described this. Women only remember the bad from exes, men typically remember the good. It’s biological in nature, due to survival mechanisms. If you want to get REALLY dank, men even love their children harder than mothers do. https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article-abstract/147/4/e2020040386/180861/Grief-and-Bereavement-in-Fathers-After-the-Death?redirect…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 10:32 PM
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“Women initiate the majority of breakups” “Because she told you for YEARS something was wrong” This implies that every break up was because the woman had an issue, and the man didn’t listen. Do you need me to walk you through the logic further?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 02:42 PM
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Every time? It’s always the man’s fault huh lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 02:27 AM
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I dated a girl who was crazy and I still miss and reminisce about her. The flaws existed but didn’t cut off feelings
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 02:27 AM
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Women pursue achievement to status compete with other women, their “degrees” are trophy’s to show to their girlfriends as are their boyfriends. Men’s motivations are for achieving mates as an end goal in and of itself
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 01:10 AM
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These aren’t “issues” it’s how men work. Why would a man achieve anything if his rewards for it are nothing?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 12:52 AM
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Please point to how the sources I provided go against my claim. It is that simple, no future family, no future mates, men do nothing. We are that simple. It can be distilled into that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 06:54 PM
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So if you had no promise of future family, no future wife or girlfriend, no future mates, you’d still work? No, you wouldn’t
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 06:24 PM
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We do not share a mind but we do share underlying biological incentives, but we do not individually copy eachothers idea, at least not in that way that women do
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 05:58 PM
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I can talk about men as a species because I am one and I’m self aware enough to understand our motivations on a biological level and extrapolate it to history, economies, and interpersonal relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 05:50 PM
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Are you implying being a woman is lesser? How dare you! Reddit admins! Come come
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 05:46 PM
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What would be sufficient to prove that men operate based off sexual incentives? If your answer is “nothing”, then we’re done here
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 05:45 PM
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Want a quick guide on how to make a fire with sticks? Otherwise, you’re hypocritical and don’t deserve the benefits you enjoy
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 05:41 PM
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No shame, I’m pointing out logical hypocrisy. There’s no emotion, just potential futures. The money buys them sex, or it used to be
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 05:41 PM
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Meaningless emotional shaming attempt, try again
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 05:38 PM
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Them doing those things to get laid is human nature. It is what it is
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 05:37 PM
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It’s human nature, women have dark and “pathetic” natures too. However I accept them
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 05:34 PM
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One can not look down on the drives that built their current comfort, you can’t both enjoy the benefits while looking down on those who made them for you. If you do, you’re saying that you don’t deserve them
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 05:33 PM
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Civilization, order, your house, it’s design, it’s construction, the protection you receive, the food you eat, the financial system you use. Enjoy the woods!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 05:13 PM
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Women’s nature can be just was easily critiqued, only that will get me banned. Be careful with glass stones. And it makes perfect sense, you look down on men’s nature while enjoy the fruits of it, you can’t be disgusted and use it when it benefits you at the same time. Pick one
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 04:55 PM
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Sure here’s your source, let’s think of everything that was invented by men? Oh, Everything. As for men’s motivations, in lieu of common sense, here’s hard evidence. Baumeister & Vohs, “Sexual Economics: Sex as Female Resource for Social Exchange in Heterosexual Interactions” (Psychological Bulletin, 2004) https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2004-21063-002 “A heterosexual community can be analyzed as a marketplace in which men seek to acquire sex from women by offering other resources in exchange” “M…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 04:53 PM
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The motivation for men to do anything is sex. That’s how we work. Don’t like it? Well then in order to not be hypocritical, you’ll need to give up everything built from that drive. Which I’m guessing you’ll do ASAP right? You’ll be living in the woods under sticks and hunt/gather for your own food? Right? No? Oh ok so turns out you like the drive after all
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 04:24 PM
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If you’re afraid of STDs or pregnancy would it be logical to not be attracted to the guy currently sleeping with a ton of other girls?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 04:23 PM
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Then you wake up 5’6 and born poor, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 05:41 PM
1

Such is life, risk is inevitable
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 03:46 AM
0

Every man ever is unreliable and will hate you? Maybe it isn’t the men if that’s your experience
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 03:27 AM
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Enjoy your ikea set. I’m sure it’ll bring you life satisfaction
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 03:20 AM
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That’s how I feel about all of women’s problems and issues too
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 03:19 AM
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Do you think anyone thanked men for providing for the family? Or protecting it when they were drafted?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 03:07 AM
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Those are mostly technological limitations not societal ones
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 03:05 AM
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Your marriages will never last if you go into it expecting he will cheat from the get go
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 03:04 AM
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I’m sure being a corporate slave at half the wage needed to support a family is much better
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 03:02 AM
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There’s no perfect solutions only trade offs
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 03:00 AM
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Yes and she can divorce you and take half your stuff and make you pay for her lifestyle with half your income while she marries another man. Choose your partners well
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 02:57 AM
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My mother was, and I was raised in that family
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 02:54 AM
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Having a family vetted man provide income for me and my children, while I have to take care of kids and cook and clean, and then just chill with the other neighbors wives and talk shit sounds like a pretty chill life to be honest. No rat race, no corporate servitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 02:48 AM
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You can’t be a victim if you’re in an advantageous position
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 08:53 PM
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Men’s attraction mechanisms are rigid, we like women, how their bodies are, we want to see them, and women that lean into femininity as hard as possible are just more attractive. Women’s attraction mechanisms are much more malleable as they’re based on status. What determines status is extremely relative to the culture they belong to. Whatever other women want, they want, it’s a chicken and egg self perpetuating system. This is why women can want wildly different things, while men all just like …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 06:44 PM
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Women want you when you don’t need them. It’s paradoxical but if you see it from their perspective it’s because it signals you’re above them, which signals high value, and thus creates attraction. If you like them and appease them, it’s because you see them as above you, thus, attraction dissipates
/r/seduction29/05/25 09:01 PM
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Those women are not in front line combat roles, even isreal doesn’t do this. 68k million women vs Millions of men proves which sex is designed for combat and which is not. This is a silly argument. This is like arguing wether or not men or women are better at giving birth
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 05:10 PM
1

And how many men?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 05:06 PM
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You clearly don’t know much of modern warfare if that’s your claim. Check out the Ukrainian Russian war, it’s all trenches. Drones changed the game
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 04:22 PM
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Source? Look in a mirror. Look at how your body is structured. You think that’s built for combat? You think you can carry supplies, ammunition for miles? A wounded comrade while under fire? Close combat happens often, especially in modern trench war. Let’s not deny biology here, our distinctions are obvious
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 04:09 PM
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Another tribes men will attack the woman. Women aren’t built for combat, physically, or emotionally. It’s simply not their place. If you try, it will not end well. Before you cite Israel, just know that the stations that women are at are 99% surveillance, and when the outposts that women were at were directly assaulted by Hamas, they were immediately over run and hid, they didn’t fight
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 01:51 PM
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Is it? Let’s simulate this. The tribe gets attacked by another group, who’s going to protect the women?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 01:45 PM
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Yasssss slay, qWeen
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 04:04 AM
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4,000 years of human civilization but only at this exact moment in time do women realize that they just really all hate men, what a coincidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 01:56 AM
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How old are you? Were you a young man in 2012 approaching every attractive girl he saw? How would you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 01:19 AM
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Without knowing anything about you, other than what you’ve told me: Become fit, not an option, you need to. Your dating life doesn’t start until you’re fit. I’m sorry it’s the truth. You need a job - this I’m struggling with myself, as the job market has collapsed and will never recover. I’m trying to think of other avenues for profit. This I can’t help you with. To find a wife - passport bro, you can find a good loyal wife and she will probably even be pretty in another a country BUT you need t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 01:18 AM
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Bro, I don’t know. It’s probably over for all of us frankly. Birth rates are collapsing, there’s no going back, financial system is propped up on popsicle sticks. Dating system is broken. Maybe the fact that it’s not you who failed in the system but the system failed itself can give you comfort.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 01:04 AM
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If one does not live to create a family and procreate, the only other option left is perpetual self indulgent hedonism. Living like a child forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 12:31 AM
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I’m the same age. This is not true bro. When I was a teenager I asked out every girl I saw IRL and went on dates with MOST of them. And I was NOT a Uber Chad. I was average height, skinny, and looked awkward and they still were excited I approached and asked them out. 0 game, just “hey I thought you were cute, want to go out?”. They weren’t brain rotted from the internet or tik tok, and weren’t jaded by age 18. I went on dates with girls from the mall, I went on a date with 3 girls that worked a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 11:24 PM
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Nice attempt at using logical fallacies but unfortunately it wasn’t used properly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 08:14 PM
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If that were the norm, it would not have been notable for an article in the first place. Also, at any time, the man can seize power and there isn’t anything a woman could do to stop it. Women have power there because the men allow it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 07:42 PM
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Slay queen tell em
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 06:35 PM
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Yes every man is a evil demon and every woman is a angelic queen you got it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 06:31 PM
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Yes, each woman still needed an individual man though, and each man knew each other and each woman, this held everyone accountable. This dynamic is vastly different than a detached formless government taking the place of the group of men. A woman who isn’t doing her share to hold up the tribe, does not get the benefits of the men. While in modern era, they do
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 05:47 PM
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Well it’s more so that the government replaced the needs of the individual man. So a woman doesn’t need to attract a man to obtain anything from an individual man. If/when the government falls, it’ll return to her needing the individual man
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 05:18 PM
0

What else is there to live for?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 10:09 PM
2

I have a gigantic penis. Weirdly big. I’ve been with hundred or so girls. Here’s the truth: Does it help you get laid? Kind of, only if she knows through word of mouth, or she sees the outline in your pants AND she’s a size queen. Most girls do like the big size, but it is NOT a determining factor in whether or not they like me. They like me already, (obviously because we’re having sex) then they find out I’m huge and they like me more. Height is MUCH MUCH more powerful. A girl WILL like you for…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 03:57 PM
7

How many times have you asked out men and been rejected?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 10:06 PM
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In a bio mechanical level it’s the truth. It’s weird to those who don’t think about things deeply, but if you do, it’s simply just how it works
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 10:05 PM
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Been here, done that. She actually wasn’t particularly insanely beautiful but she was cute enough. Trauma filled like mad and you could see it in her face. The intermittent reinforcement, and performative empath shtick, got me hooked. Yeah these ones will fuck you up hard
/r/seduction17/05/25 04:39 PM
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Yeah as a guy who’s leaned on dating apps for the last 5 years or so, I’m gonna go back to cold approach. I’ve gotten plenty of dates off apps, but honestly, showing up, not clicking with the girl, then still paying for the date fucking sucks. Cold approach you instantly know if you’re attracted, if there’s chemistry, and it’s just more fulfilling. But obviously, way way harder. But it simply must be done
/r/seduction15/05/25 03:28 AM
4

No one hates you bro, your post just isn’t accurate to the true reason that’s all
/r/seduction13/05/25 11:30 PM
2

Yeah it’s this. OP drinking feminist soup
/r/seduction13/05/25 11:18 PM
5

That’s how you get taken advantage of, and once you attach to her alone, she loses attraction and then you’re back to square one. Give them a reason to only want you, don’t try to force it, it will not work. Monogamy for the most part is a losing proposition to men, they don’t gain much from it. You gotta make it worth it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 09:09 PM
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If you think the sky is pink, and I tell you it’s blue, does that mean I’m in a cult? Or are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 06:12 PM
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Yeah some of the titles are cringey but they’re meant to be inflammatory in order to shake men out of the women on a pedestal mentality. The meaning and messages still hold true value
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 06:02 PM
4

Do you know what red pill is? Have you read the pdf?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 05:53 PM
5

It does? People turn to red pill because it tells what is actually happening and not feel good nonsense. If you want to live in delusions and try banging your head against the wall and try to date women the ignorant way, go ahead. But when you’re tired of being used, hurt and rejected, I’ll be there to tell you what’s actually happening. I looked at the video I have no idea who that person is. I’m older
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 05:11 PM
9

Red pill isn’t a cult lmao. There’s no “recruitment”. It’s just a pdf that tells you the realities of dating women and what dynamics to expect. That’s it. Men turn to it when they try to date women through traditional means, being nice, generous, caring, then it falls on its face and they wonder wtf happened. Then they read the PDF and then it makes way more sense
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 04:41 PM
4

You basically said nothing with that comment
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 04:35 PM
11

Real world experiences with women will turn you more red pill than any “influencer”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 04:11 PM
6

No, they expect me to pay but most women do anyways, you’ll typically get the “hand reaching into bag” thing but they’re not gonna actually pay. If a girl actually wants to split, it’s because she doesn’t want to see you again. They’re pretty engaging intellectually I gotta say. Instead of talking about stupid nonsense like Taylor swift or whatever, I unintentionally, but gladly end up in deep conversations about culture, geopolitics, human nature, etc. I guess when you have to deal with harsh r…
/r/seduction12/05/25 05:00 AM
-7

My logic is though that if she genuinely felt desire, the cultural norms would have been over ridden and she would have made out anyway
/r/seduction12/05/25 04:52 AM
4

True. Last date I went on she was flirting hard but I had my guard up. Towards the end I kiss her goodbye, I try to escalate into a make out but she keeps it at the peck level. I never texted her again after because I felt if she genuinely wanted me she would have made out. It’s what lead to this thread
/r/seduction12/05/25 12:40 AM
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It’s difficult to tell, I compare it with my experience with women who genuinely desire me sexually. Typically the flirtation during the date seems genuine but when it comes to physical escalation like kissing, they hold back. Which is the “real” test for actual attraction to me
/r/seduction11/05/25 10:46 PM
7

They are from nations that are at war, I would not blame them for trying to seek an escape. But I do not want to be seen as nothing more than that
/r/seduction11/05/25 10:30 PM
22

I’m afraid it is not attraction in a genuine sense
/r/seduction11/05/25 10:04 PM
1

That’s a rational and realistic take yeah, I suppose you’re right
/r/seduction11/05/25 09:29 PM
2

Yeah that could be it. Ironically I despise academia. So maybe their assumptions are misplaced
/r/seduction11/05/25 09:08 PM
3

No not really, software developer for healthcare technologies is my job title
/r/seduction11/05/25 09:05 PM
4

They’re not thousands of miles away though, these girls are in my city, just on student visas. But yes I agree as they may see it as “ticket outta there” which is why I have a reluctance to entertain them. It’s hard to tell if the flirtation is genuine or performative
/r/seduction11/05/25 09:00 PM
2

Was the point of this comment to show your insecurity? Or did it have a different intention? Because that’s the only one I picked up on
/r/seduction11/05/25 08:55 PM
12

If it’s genuine attraction then I’d be ok with it
/r/seduction11/05/25 08:53 PM
5

Visas are temporary, green cards are permanent. Most are here on student visas from my dates so far
/r/seduction11/05/25 08:47 PM
4

Is it racist? They’re from turbulent nations at war. It’s common sense for them to want to come to America and green card hunt. Game is game
/r/seduction11/05/25 08:44 PM
17

Which part is what they look for? Is it genuine attraction or just extraction?
/r/seduction11/05/25 08:05 PM
19

I go on dates with them, it seems to be a mix of genuine attraction but also possibly extraction. It’s hard to tell if their flirting is performance or not. But since I match with so many, something is up
/r/seduction11/05/25 07:57 PM
14

No lol, I go on dates with them. They’re definitely real women
/r/seduction11/05/25 07:56 PM
-1

Youth and beauty are the most valuable things to men. Now that it’s commodified and gamified through apps and social media, yeah it’s kinda joever
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 07:49 PM
2

I make my own porn 😎
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 05:39 AM
2

Holy fucking shit dude, hit that inhaler bro
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 04:25 AM
31

Maybe Reddit men, they self loathe in order to try to win approval from the feminist Reddit culture majority
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 03:31 PM
8

30s+ are usually husband hunting hard. It explains why it’s easier, they’re on the last floor of the elevator and they’re trying to get off
/r/seduction09/05/25 11:19 PM
2

I’m guessing you love football lol
/r/seduction09/05/25 11:17 PM
2

I think you’re projecting female social dynamics on to men, that’s just not how we work
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 01:19 PM
1

They do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 01:18 PM
4

What are you asking? This is incoherent
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 04:41 AM
3

Circumcision is logically directly equivalent to FGM. You’re used to circumcision, so it’s normal to you. But that’s all it is, conditioning. Objectively, they’re the same thing. Both weird as hell. Keep your cutting tools away from baby genitals
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 10:03 PM
2

Men do all that to get laid, not for male friend validation. They do it to be attractive to women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 02:01 PM
1

They have strong social cohesion, going against the main culture or opinions isn’t something women tend to do
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 12:28 PM
1

Surgery is built through residency, more like a trade. And so is road work
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 12:27 PM
1

Girls LOVE degrees, even though modern education is a complete joke. I think it’s mainly a status thing more so than “education”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 02:40 PM
7

The reasons that they don’t want to fuck them are because they look down on them
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 07:32 PM
12

There’s always a reason people don’t want to sleep with people, there’s never “no reason”. The reasons they don’t are for the ones I listed. Which undermines their “support”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 07:10 PM
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I wouldn’t say I support them no, I respect gay people as humans but I don’t attend gay pride parades or go to drag shows. This is more about women actually looking down on gay men while simultaneously, outwardly, and loudly supporting “gay pride”. Essentially they’re thinking “yeah go gay men! I support everything they do!… but also they’re kinda gross and diseased and not actually men in my eyes”.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 06:52 PM
2

This is pretty smart, next time I’m in a long term relationship I’m probably gonna do this too, thanks for the idea lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 04:46 PM
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I don’t care I just love pointing it out because a lot of girls who go to gay pride and support “diversity” and all that, will also not date bi men because they’re seen as not men, or dirty, or untrustworthy. So they “support” the gays while also looking down on them. That’s why I love bringing it up personally
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 04:44 PM
3

Yeah even to this day I make this mistake. Never ever let her know that you’re sold on her. Always keep her in maybe. But you also don’t want to go too far in the opposite direction and make her feel like you’re “no, never” about her, gotta toe the line
/r/seduction01/05/25 07:50 PM
15

Oh a woman saying you look gay has plenty of other meanings for sure… none of them are “I want to fuck you”
/r/seduction01/05/25 02:43 PM
18

This ain’t a compliment in the slightest my man
/r/seduction01/05/25 02:24 PM
2

Yeah this is true, I think it’s because it kind of gives her an upfront vision of how she can expect to feel around you. If you mesh archetypes together then it throws her off, she doesn’t know what to expect or how to feel and attraction dies. Women like stories, narratives, you kind of need to be a character in the books she reads just like you want her to be a pornstar in the porn you watch. If you come out the gate with layers of complexity, she’s at a complete loss as to how to feel about y…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 04:27 AM
2

Women rank men too, it’s the basis for their attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 12:49 AM
1

Oh, they do but only if they trust you
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 01:27 PM
12

It’s probably mainly to see how they rationalize their actions, because although we may know the true reasons behind them, it’s still interesting to see what they think they may be
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 10:52 PM
0

If I had to guess, when you can no longer have them. It’ll probably be subconscious but with brief moments of direct unsheltered dread. Then likely rationalized to save yourself from it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 10:31 PM
1

I think you read too many dragon academy fantasy Romance novels
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 10:29 PM
0

Your circumstances allow you to opt out, our modern comforts allow us to opt out. But when you’re older it’ll come back hard
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 10:14 PM
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Yeah it’s pretty bad. Be prepared to have her drop you at any moment no matter what came before. Especially if you date early 20s or so. Late 20s-mid 30s will mostly be husband hunting and asking for commitment up front. It is what it is, buckle up
/r/seduction29/04/25 10:09 PM
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Can they? Yes, do they want to? Vast majority do not unless they have high levels of testosterone. It simply isn’t the same. We’re made different
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 09:59 PM
0

Yes actually, different enough where that’s not what men want and will not help us the way it helps women. It’s like telling women to go lift or hit a heavy bag to help with their issues
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 08:44 PM
-2

This logic just doesn’t work. I’m stating how different men and women are, because they’re designed for two different functions. They share a common species but are different in their function. Of course a member of the same species will have more in common than a member of a different species. But we are still very different
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 08:25 PM
-2

Do you think that makes it so we’re not different? One of us gives birth, the other is made to fight and die. Every aspect of how we interact with the world is fundamentally different
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 08:00 PM
4

I think the points got lost in the hedging
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 07:55 PM
-1

This just isn’t how men work, men and women are different
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 07:30 PM
9

I’ve met many with the fantasy of one; actually doing it is a different story
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 06:26 PM
1

That’s not what I said, but if that’s what you wish to take to preserve your ego, go ahead
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:19 PM
1

Self reported studies are useless. Peoples actions tell you their truths not their words
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:10 PM
5

The women on Reddit, specifically this sub Reddit, are the furthest thing representative of actual normal pretty women you date out in the world
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:05 PM
4

The amount I fucked never really came into consideration other than STD tests. I’m reasonably attractive yes. Not a model but I’m “hot”. I really disagree that me having less partners would make me more desirable to women. It’s neutral at best, and a turn off at worst. They love the experience, that I know what to do, how to lead etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 04:55 PM
5

Damn like 4 paragraphs and not one answer that’s impressive
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 04:53 PM
3

You can just say you find bi men gross, no one cares
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 04:52 PM
4

This is the true reason, every other girl who gives any other reason is bullshitting to make themselves look better. I think this is quite fine, only a issue if one is also a super progressive lgbtq supporter girl, then it’s hypocrisy
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 04:41 PM
2

I’ve told every woman I’ve been with I was a massive whore and not one ever cared
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 04:36 PM
3

I’ve been approached in the classic method “hey I think you’re cute” etc etc. a couple times. Mostly in college, or at a club. And no they were typically 2/10 3/10 or at max 4.5/10?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 03:03 AM
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Yeah if you Google “amitheasshole” gender swap you’ll get a couple threads of a dude gender swapping a story and posting the results. They lashed out at him for doing it instead of speaking about the hypocrisy lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 10:40 PM
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Haha the first one is so annoying in dating. I took a girl once to a gymnastics place, and we tried doing handstands, she fell and landed on her back and got embarrassed then lashed out at me for not “coaching her properly”. I was just like “yeah I’ve come to accept this behavior, nothing can be done”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 10:36 PM
1

Lesbian relationships are mostly just being friends that sleep in the same bed together. There, I said it. I’m not afraid. Crucify me if you must, for I have already won 👐✝️
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 10:15 PM
8

It’s called enjoy the decline
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 03:18 AM
0

It would reduce the value of the money I bring home, the more money everyone has the less value each dollar has
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 09:36 PM
5

Point 4 is simply not how money works
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 08:03 PM
7

No who were you referring to? I’m not being obtuse, genuinely.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 02:05 AM
8

Gay men? They love straight men
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 12:31 AM
6

Fastidiously based
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 12:02 AM
5

Because it’s not the gender that they’re attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 12:00 AM
1

They’re formed from the society you grow up in
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 08:21 PM
1

Morals are given to you, they’re not default
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 05:36 PM
1

Who enforces these morals? Or laws? Or rules?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 03:16 PM
1

If you can name me an empire or state that thrived off mutual love exclusively I’d change my mind
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 10:56 PM
2

Need mutual hatred to bond. It’s tribalism. It’s how we work. It’s why there’s always a “other” or “enemy”, to bind groups together
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 09:46 PM
4

People in general, do
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 08:02 PM
5

Ew bro, don’t use women’s shaming tactics. “Insecure”? You’re embarrassing me
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 07:19 PM
3

That’s what I want, but doubling the work force kinda ruined that capability
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 04:48 PM
4

It’s also more that they want certain aspects of the marriage but not the others. As in they crave the wedding and social status, but not the marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 02:34 PM
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I think it’s just always the man’s fault no matter what to be frank, every time it’s only his fault because women just can’t do anything wrong, it’s just simple mathematics
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 02:32 PM
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I read that and didn’t really see anything hateful there. He even said it wasn’t cowardly
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 10:26 PM
0

This is true tbh. Sometimes I go on dates where I’m like “I basically work to become an ubermensch so I could just land a date with a thin pretty woman… insane”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 12:31 PM
1

Because the joy a child has doesn’t mean as much when it’s not mine, so the highs are lower and the lowers are lower. I deal with unpleasant things every day for the greater good, my whole life is structured for it. Also, I’m a man, there aren’t exactly a lot of avenues for me to just dabble in childcare easily
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 02:12 AM
1

It’s a third of relationships mostly due to circumstances not facilitating families, I don’t think it’s mostly due to choice
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 02:03 AM
2

Fucking facilitates bonding, if you’re bonding and not using that bond for a greater purpose it’s hedonistic
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 02:02 AM
1

? I think you lost the logical thread here
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 02:01 AM
1

But what use are those things without a end goal is my follow up
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 02:00 AM
1

I say that because they’re clearly projecting some sort of child/family abuser personality on to me because of their pre conceived biases. That also has 0 to do with the premise of the thread
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 02:00 AM
1

They don’t seem to tackle the core of what I am conflicted about which is the deep lack of fulfillment that will come later in life when you’ve done it all and have nothing left
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:58 AM
1

Dread, emptiness, aimlessness
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:57 AM
1

No I had no idea of the thought processes of people who didn’t want kids but still wanted a committed relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:57 AM
1

So it’s just H + H = 2H, not H + H = !H
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:56 AM
0

I don’t actually see how that’s dumb at all? Reproduction facilitates the generations of knowledge accumulation that lead to electricity, the internet, and Reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:55 AM
1

I do not even notice the gender of the person I’m responding to I simply respond to what they say to be honest. And like I said just because I’m testing the soundness of someone’s perspective doesn’t mean I’m dismissing it entirely. I am absorbing and testing and then absorbing
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:54 AM
1

That’s how you interpret it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:52 AM
1

Our biology chemically and physiologically primes and rewards us for reproduction, it’s what creates the deeply satisfying feeling that I seek from having a family. It’s science not spirituality
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:52 AM
1

That sounds way more fulfilling than if you never had the kid at all. You can even tell by the way you write it that you’re fulfilled
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:51 AM
1

Yes but it’s a hierarchy, so me as a man, I put my family first, then me, then immediate family, then extended family, then neighbors, then community, etc etc
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:49 AM
1

I’m asking why people want a relationship if they do not want children, more specific than why they don’t want children
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:48 AM
0

How would the knowledge to create Reddit and technology have existed if not for the reproduction needed to create layers and layers of knowledge build from one generation to the next?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:46 AM
0

It is logical. People can deal with hardship if they believe it to be for a greater purpose. Without kids, what is the greater purpose?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:45 AM
2

And you describe me as if I do not plan on loving my wife and family
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:44 AM
1

This thread was actually really insightful in understanding what they’re thinking
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:43 AM
1

That may happen, I can’t predict the future. Hopefully my future wife is smart enough to guide me in the case that I treat them horribly. But these internet strangers are not my kids, and just because I am offering my perspective in response to theirs does not mean I’m not understanding or dismissing what they’re saying. I am simply stating my response to theirs and testing their logic
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:42 AM
0

You’re just adding two hedonism units together, instead of transforming it into a family unit
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:39 AM
1

Because spending time with strangers kids simply isn’t the same. I can deal with anything if it’s for a greater purpose, but when you take the greater purpose away there’s no reason to deal with it. I know raising kids will be difficult and horrible and painful, but knowing they’re mine and they’re everything I’ve worked for my whole life will be the thing that I can look to for support. But taking care of a strangers kids is simply all the negatives with none of the positives
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:38 AM
1

Then shit sucks? What happens if I get hit by a car tomorrow? Anything can happen at any time
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:36 AM
0

I’m learning their perspectives and understanding them and then providing my response. I’ve learned exactly how the people I was confused about think. My rebuttals aren’t dismissals, they’re just my perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:33 AM
2

Yes, and maybe I’ll explode tomorrow. All I can do is try
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:32 AM
1

You may see me as an asshole because I am staunch in my purpose but I do not plan on treating my family in any way other than the reason I even tried at life
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:31 AM
1

Nothing in life is guaranteed, it simply is just a better alternative
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:29 AM
1

They didn’t show their children the love that I plan on showing mine
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:28 AM
0

The same reason that people can work a shitty job for a greater goal or purpose. When you’re focused on something bigger or greater, the waves and crashes are much more bearable
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:28 AM
0

If our biological imperative wasn’t to reproduce then we would not exist. The evidence is our speaking right now. That’s what’s bigger than us. I am 100% logical and not mystical in the slightest.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:27 AM
2

I’m selfish because I need to be. Once I get my family secure and safe I can worry about others
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:24 AM
1

I don’t have a wife, but when I do, yes I will. And she will feel the same way. That the end goal is what we’re working towards
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:21 AM
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I mean I guess? I don’t really want to do the math to determine hedonism levels here
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:20 AM
0

It’s not mystical, it’s not magic. Exactly, you’re exactly right. It’s continuing the cycle of reproduction, just as animals do, just as plants do, just as bacteria do. It’s a deeply fulfilling existential process that we partake in
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:18 AM
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I’m not religious so the religious aspect of marriage isn’t relevant to me. The actual functional use of marriage is to create a family unit. So without the potential for the family, there’s no function for the marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:14 AM
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I study and build those things, for my future family. They all tie into one another. You plant a tree that you will never see grow
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:13 AM
1

I’m not a martyr, I am building something bigger than me. It’s not about me, it’s about a future family
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:12 AM
1

Because the commitment doesn’t serve any purpose if not for a greater end goal
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:12 AM
1

I don’t think time with others kids is the same feeling as me raising my own children
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:11 AM
1

It’s not “you are a tool for the greater purpose” It’s “you and me together can create something bigger”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:10 AM
1

That’s how you see us, not how we will see eachother
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:09 AM
2

Biology, without kids we wouldn’t exist. So clearly there’s a correlation there
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:07 AM
1

How is me sacrificing everything and only doing things that build toward my future family self important?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:06 AM
1

Our marriage is an agreement for the purpose of building a family. Without the purpose, there’s no reason for it to be there anymore. It’s not my ideal, it’s the worst case scenario, and I do everything I can to avoid this scenario
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:05 AM
2

Well I suppose I am not normal then, but I think the idea of having a family as a goal is normal
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:04 AM
1

I do not see them as possessions. Everything I do every day is for the purpose of building a family. This isn’t a whim
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:04 AM
1

Then I don’t marry her. I’m asking what’s the point of a relationship if one does not want kids, not what’s the point of a woman if she doesn’t want kids
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:03 AM
1

You don’t think it’s normal to be short term focused and focused on hooking up and hedonism at 20?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:00 AM
2

They were when I was young, and focused on hedonism and short term pleasure. I didn’t have long term goals at 20
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:56 AM
1

No, this is you filtering what I’m saying through what you wish me to be so you can be mad at me
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:55 AM
2

Yes, I’ve had 2 serious relationships, hooked up with probably 50+ girls, and now I’m focusing on filtering for serious relationships for long term family goals
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:54 AM
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They can come by for holidays, and just visit, and you can help raise their kids, I do not think it has to be “kick them out then be alone forever”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:53 AM
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Holidays your kids can come visit, you can help raise your kids kids, etc. I think a old life with kids is way more satisfying than one without
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:53 AM
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If it does not give me deep existential satisfaction then life is emptier than I imagined and I exhausted all options. But I can say I at least tried
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:52 AM
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You clearly are picturing me as some self important dude who thinks I only want a family because I think my sperm is so important. Even though I’ve said nothing of the sort
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:51 AM
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You are projecting on to me, it’s not “my sperm” it’s “my future family”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:47 AM
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It would likely collapse due to the now defunct greater goal and I’d be even more depressed and have 0 idea what to even do with my life? Idk why even fantasize about my life crashing?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:47 AM
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All pleasures get dull fast. I’ve tried them. If my perspective is wrong then life is even emptier than I imagined, but I at least tried
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:45 AM
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The greater purpose is us having a family. You’re projecting hard
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:44 AM
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I have 0 idea of some euphoria of raising children and just being at 1000% happiness forever. It’s more of a deep seeded existential satisfaction
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:44 AM
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Then my life sucks and I’ll feel depressed idk what to tell you? I can lose all my limbs tomorrow and survive in a tube for the rest of my life too. No use worrying about the odds of bad things I can’t control
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:43 AM
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If I were wrong, and our greater purpose wasn’t reproduction, we wouldn’t exist. Just because a majority believes an option does not make it true. Also this is a subset of a subset of women
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:42 AM
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I take all precautions to minimize risks and have contingency plans. If all those fall through, adoption is the last resort
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:40 AM
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That short term pleasures get dull fast and then you’re left with nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:40 AM
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Pleasure seeking gets old and dull very fast. That’s the end that I see, because I’ve already experienced it and dulled it. There’s no way i can live through 50 more years of it without a greater goal
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:39 AM
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It’s not about hating eachother, it’s about dealing with the fact that all life isn’t sunshine and rainbows and you have a duty to a greater purpose to uphold despite how temporary emotions may be influencing things
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:38 AM
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No, it’s just the greater purpose. As hers will be too
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:37 AM
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If you think I see her as simply a “means to an end”, does that mean that my future wife will see me the same way?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:35 AM
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Because I can see into it and see how empty it will feel
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:35 AM
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That is valuable, it’s a important bond, for the purpose of then making a family. It has a end goal, a greater purpose
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:34 AM
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I think it’s just the objective truth to the dynamic
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:32 AM
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Why do you by default assume I would treat the mother of my children horribly
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:32 AM
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Why is having kids equal to miserable
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:31 AM
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For what end?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:31 AM
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If we keep changing the definitions of words then nothing means anything
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:31 AM
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You can give them to your kids and they’ll grow to appreciate you and love you and give it all back
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:30 AM
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No, because when they move out you still support them, and their children and so on and so forth and create a large network of family
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:30 AM
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If you had kids you wouldn’t be as alone
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:29 AM
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Because that’s the purpose of it. Without it you’re just two friends chilling and doing short term pleasure pursuits forever
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:28 AM
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Can you pinpoint actual qualms you have with what I say that show why I personally should not have a family in your eyes?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:28 AM
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I suppose, but I do not think the vast majority of girls I’m seeing are doctors who are struggling with their career vs family. I did go on a date with a girl who was a doctor and she actually did want a family regardless of her hours.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:27 AM
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I’m not assuming most people would be good parents. That doesn’t concern me. I’m dating girls in the hope for my own family, so I’m asking why these girls want the relationship without the purpose of it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:26 AM
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I suppose it answers it but in a way that highlights the shortsightedness of the decision yes
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:25 AM
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You answered my question with “lots of people treat their kids horribly”, I’m disregarding it because it doesn’t answer my question as to why girls want LTR without a plan for a family
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:25 AM
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Because someone making do with the lot they are given is different than someone who is actively pursuing a relationship without the end goal of children. Also, those people could adopt, but I can’t blame them for seeking a pseudo relationship despite their inability to have kids
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:24 AM
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I think they’d never admit they regret not having children, not even to themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:23 AM
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They do it for what? The lack of the conditional of kids isn’t the answer for the reason
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:22 AM
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You’re projecting what you want to see on to me
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:21 AM
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You bring up scenarios where people can’t have children, so their choice in the matter is moot. Therefore the question as to asking why they wouldn’t have children, is answered
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:16 AM
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I do not plan on treating my family horribly, so that doesn’t concern me
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:15 AM
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Why do you think so? What are you projecting on to me?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:14 AM
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Yes but it’s not relevant to my original question
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:14 AM
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If that’s the case then life truly is emptier than I ever imagined. But I do not think it is
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:13 AM
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It’s already happening? At least my side of the world isn’t reproducing
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:12 AM
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Yes so clearly you can see the value in having kids
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:12 AM
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I don’t have any younger nieces or nephews, but I do see children often and it makes me want my own
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:11 AM
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My question is asking why young women who can have kids want a relationship without kids, so not really about that situation
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:11 AM
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So you see the value in kids, you can have your own too and you can do those things and feel 3x as fulfilled
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:10 AM
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My question is why young women who can have children are asking for LTR but do not want children. My question isn’t “wow people who don’t have kids because they have unfortunate circumstances suck”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:09 AM
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Yes so clearly you see the value in children, you can do that and have your own too, it would feel even better
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:08 AM
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What’s the common future if not kids? What is the future?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:07 AM
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If most couples were childless we wouldn’t exist anymore, which will soon be the case
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:06 AM
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We go extinct is what happens, so clearly it is our goal
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:06 AM
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Yes being there for your family, so you see the value in it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:05 AM
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Not to his face for social reasons but I’d certainly think it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:05 AM
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I didn’t ask who they date I asked why they date for long term exclusivity
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:04 AM
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Yes but that’s not ideal for the children
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:04 AM
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It’s not about magic or emotion, it’s about a deep satisfaction that goes beyond a simply emotional high
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:03 AM
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I work hard and study every day so that I can
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:03 AM
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