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NYE Purge Post!HonestyOverCivility/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 10:57 PM
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Aye. The only thing that keeps men from having sex all the time is women. So what happens when you eliminate the woman factor? The gay community basically
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 05:14 AM
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The one who cares the least has the most power
/r/TheRedPill23/12/19 05:50 PM
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Women enter adulthood with a massive SMV inheritance that gives them a lot of attention and options when it comes to dating/sex for very little effort Conversely, most men enter adulthood with almost nothing in terms of SMV and essentially have to earn the power that women simply inherit. The script doesn’t flip until 10+ years into adulthood at which point your average man has become quite disillusioned with the whole dynamic
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/19 02:17 PM
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Two RP truths come to mind (per Mr. Tomassi): Men communicate overtly—women communicate covertly Women want a man who “just gets it” Combine these two and what you get is that women expect you to be able to pick up on their emotions and other non-verbal hints without having to explicitly tell you. Part of the problem here is that women generally have more emotional/social intelligence than your average man, so to women it should have been obvious that Becky was crushing on you even if she didn’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/19 06:37 PM
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Most likely. Getting married is incredibly simple and quick while getting a divorce can be a 6 month process just based on state mandated separation periods alone. In other words, the process is one big “are you suuuuurre you want to call it quits?” It basically prevents a lot of splits that would be considered impulsive in retrospect, something that’s much more important or you want kids. Accordingly, I wouldn’t even consider marriage unless you want kids. Protip: have a ceremony, but don’t sig…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 04:21 AM
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Masculinity above all else
/r/TheRedPill13/11/19 02:12 PM
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Being a young woman is the ultimate abundance mentality. Literally 100’s of men have swiped right on you, so why be anything but selective Women are inherently the more valuable sex, their actions will reflect this until there age/lack of beauty start creeping in
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 12:33 AM
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Probably because the good times tend to diminish sharply once you have a kid
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/19 04:13 AM
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Hypergamy = female sexual strategy Unlimited access to unlimited sexuality = male sexual strategy
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/19 08:03 PM
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Advocating for marriage is leading lambs to the slaughter
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/19 03:48 PM
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That graph appears to be birth rates not sing motherhood...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/19 05:57 AM
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Abortion reduces the risk associated with reckless sexual behavior From a RP perspective it also facilitated hypergamy by allowing women to hand select which men’s genetic offspring are worthy of being brought into the world
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/19 08:27 PM
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Companies are about as amoral as it gets. Cigarette companies profit off the deaths of millions, Casino will gladly bleed you dry, and Tinder will sell you the false promise of that Chad or Becky that you deserve...and they probably have behavioral psychologists on retainer to make it all as addictive as possible A+ write up my friend
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre08/11/19 09:07 AM
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Behavioral economics says that humans on large scales simply respond to incentives. When you incentivize single motherhood through government support, you’re naturally going to get more instances of single motherhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/19 02:00 AM
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Clingy is just a combination of possessiveness with a scarcity mentality; both of which are just beta traits. Accordingly, I think the better question is why are asian guys so beta. My answer is that we’re raised by parents who have a very traditional “Marriage 1.0” mentality when it comes to what it means to be a man in the world, especially as it relates to women. We’re told very early on that the most important thing in being a man is to be educated and have a good respected job aka be a beta…
/r/TheRedPill08/11/19 01:47 AM
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Standing by for asian guy peacocking ideas... Perhaps Kung fu master, ninja, or samurai
/r/TheRedPill07/11/19 09:45 PM
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Controlling and possessive TradCon with a low sex drive...sounds like a real winner...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/19 09:34 PM
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TRP works, so I have no doubts that the core information of these posts is mostly true. However, the combination of embellishment and bragging is undeniable
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/19 09:11 PM
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The field reports make me cringe even as a RP guy. They’re also great fuel for people looking to shit all over TRP (“Look at what this asshole says about women!”)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/19 08:50 PM
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I’ve heard this as a fear that many men have, but I’ve never heard of it being an issue from the wife’s perspective. Realistically, it doesn’t effect testosterone levels and I’ve actually heard many woman say that it felt freeing sexually because they no longer had anxiety over getting pregnant
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre05/11/19 11:07 PM
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Love it or hate it, “hot” for men is a much greater list of factors beyond how chiseled your face is. Being beta is a choice not a mandate
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/19 04:18 PM
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The issue for your average man isn’t that he’s too dangerous and thrilling...it’s that he’s too boring and predictable, which is a boner killer for most women. Lust isn’t founded upon comfort, it’s founded upon urgency and a little bit of mystique surrounding the other person
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/19 02:21 PM
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Have your kids and get a vasectomy is my suggestion. Eliminates the risk of pregnancy and none of the HBC nonsense
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre05/11/19 05:54 AM
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Loyalty and emotional bonding are what you’re forgetting here. Simply looking at SMV would dictate that a women would never marry a man in his 20’s and a man would continually “trade-in for the new model” once a women hit her mid 30’s and we all know that this isn’t what typically what happens
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/19 01:34 PM
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Shaming is only acceptable when perpetrators are the minority Being overweight and promiscuous is now the standard. Accordingly fat shaming and slut shaming are no longer considered acceptable
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/19 12:38 AM
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The way in which HBC impacts attraction cues is very important and to elaborate: Women on HBC are more likely to select low testosterone, less masculine men who are more agreeable and less dominant Women not on HBC are more likely to select high testosterone, more masculine men who are less agreeable and more dominant As one can imagine, the shift in attraction from one to another can really create problems in the marriage
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre03/11/19 12:24 AM
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Cousin fuckers aside, lifting and getting visibly big is probably the closest thing to a shortcut to high SMV. Become top 20% of the dudes at the gym and women will start eye fucking you and looking at you like someone who sees a fighter jet or tank up close for the first time; pure admiration for the aesthetics and the power that they convey
/r/TheRedPill31/10/19 03:46 PM
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From an evolutionary standpoint pregnancy says to men that not only is a woman willing to have sex, but that she’s also fertile and healthy enough to carry a child. Nevertheless, the ability to have a child is common enough in younger women that it’s basically a given. Accordingly I’d go with the Virgin. Less baggage.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 11:57 PM
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Fatties
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 02:34 AM
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Studies have shown that women have the same exact sexual drive as men I don’t think I’ve ever heard a more incorrect statement in my life. Men have 12+ times the amount of free testosterone, the hormone responsible for sex drive, as women. A woman’s sex drove doesn’t come anywhere close to a man’s
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 01:16 AM
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Alphas have options. A scarcity mentality is what leads betas to stick around
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/19 07:48 PM
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Replace predatory with “aggressor”. Feel better now?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/19 07:38 PM
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Replace predatory with “aggressor”. Feel better now?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/19 07:38 PM
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it is predatory. Nothing particularly controversial about that. Hence the fact that rape, regardless of whether the victim is male or female is overwhelmingly committed by men. Even if we’re talking non-coercive sex, men are still the ones going after women 9 times out of 10. Repressed? Not exactly. For an alpha man, the world is your oyster. Hell, even a beta gets more casual sex than one did 50 years ago. Ultimately, it’s not so much that male sexuality is getting repressed as it is that femal…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/19 02:16 PM
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Part of being a trophy wife is saying that you’re educated, even if it means have a bullshit degree
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/19 05:41 PM
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Rollo the guy who made the graph has even said that it doesn’t imply that women and men are more likely to hook up at their respective peak SMVs but that each has the most relational options at their respective peaks
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/19 02:47 AM
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Who’s claiming that they are? Your claim seems to be tied to the common error made of looking at the infamous SMV graph and exclaiming “If Women peak at 23 and men peak at 35, then why don’t 23 year old women prefer to date 35 year olds!?!?”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/19 12:21 AM
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Evolution and sexual reproduction is all about choosing mates with optimal genetic fitness... Accordingly, a woman who’s attractive only due to make up, plastic surgery, photo filters, etc is effectively conning the man into reproduction by being deceptive about her genetic fitness. We even see the same phenomenon with women when they find out the guy isn’t a high earner or is actually incredibly beta despite giving the appearance of being alpha initially
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 08:27 PM
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They hate them for the same reason people hate TRP...it pulls back the curtain and exposes the ugly truth
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 07:03 PM
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Escort? Sexual Services Engineer is the preferred term now you bigot
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 07:02 PM
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A 0.7 bust to waist to hip ratio
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 08:21 PM
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What we’re experiencing today is just greater sexual ambiguity as we relax the formal rules that once governed male/female interaction 100 years ago the rules were clear cut: sex outside of marriage wasn’t a thing (not including prostitution) 50 years ago the rules relaxed: sex occurred outside of marriage but only after a somewhat formal dating process Today the rules are few and often inconsistent: “Woman make rules for betas and break rules for alphas”. To your average man this is very confus…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 08:02 PM
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TLDR: Sex for a man is like being incredibly hungry in a world where food is hard to come by Men also have 12+ times the amount of testosterone that women have which equates to a borderline obsession compared to women when it comes to sex Your average man also has a scarcity mentality considering its a lot harder for your average man to get laid than it is your average women
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 07:47 PM
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Female SMV is like a massive inheritance Male SMV is like a hard earned wage Accordingly, you’ll find few men who are sympathetic to whatever hardships remain for modern women, especially now that they no longer suffer from the oppression/lack of opportunity that previous generations did. Simply put, it never been better to be a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 01:16 PM
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If I told you that you could have a new soda or one that’s had seven penises in it, which would you chose?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 09:35 PM
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Rollo Tomassi : He’s The Godfather of TRP and one of the few approaching the topic from a data/objective standpoint as opposed to a “here’s some shit that worked for me at the bar last night” one. Specifically the standpoint of evolutionary biology/psychology
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/19 10:04 PM
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A few thoughts: The qualities which modern parenting tends to value are those which essentially make a man an upstanding member of society and dutiful provider. From an evolutionary standpoint, the beta bucks strategy is actually a good “safe bet” which ensures reproductive access for even low SMW men, so it stands to reason that a mother might “chose” that strategy. A woman’s perception of the ideal man is going to be based around her perception of that archetype over the course of the 20 or so…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 03:57 PM
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“I feel sexually invisible”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 12:57 PM
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Women love attention...when it’s from the right men
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 08:51 PM
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I’m just fucking with you bro
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 02:38 PM
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“I’m MGTOW”. Looks like we’ve got a turd in the punch bowl—I repeat, turd in the punch bowl
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 11:24 AM
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I’d agree. Ideally it’s a combination of free speech with quality control. However, 80% of purge week has been low quality inflammatory shit posting and 20% quality edgy content. That’s not a sustainable model long term...well it is—it’s just called 4chan
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 01:20 AM
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Ever bought a really nice car and just been absolutely thrilled when driving it off the lot? How long did that high last? 6 months? A year maybe? This is what it’s like to be married to a rich beta bucks...unless you’re constantly upping the ante, the high of material wealth goes away, and what you’re left with (as a woman) is the reality that you’re married to some loser who couldn’t get you wet even if you were outside in a rainstorm. Reverse the genders for a second and imagine you’re married…
/r/TheRedPill15/10/19 05:02 AM
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Black men on average are more masculine and they embrace it shamelessly. Black urban culture is very “domineering” and masculine relative to what white suburbanites experience. This is why black men do so well while black women struggle. One plays into traditional gender roles while the other goes against it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 03:46 AM
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MGTOW is bullshit for the most part and RP guys will say just as much. Hate TRP all you want but at least it’s honest about its intentions
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 03:34 AM
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Based on the pictures posted, everyone on PPD is attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 04:49 AM
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Millennials in general are just sensitive as all hell. Every fucking person has “anxiety” these days aka they can’t handle basic stress in life. Instead of telling people to grow the fuck up we coddle them and encourage their emotional immaturity
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 05:58 PM
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This is bullshit! I’ve meet plenty of bloated and aging 40 year old women who are perfectly content with their 3 “fur babies”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 04:21 PM
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We’re even better at being women, hence the reason we keep setting new records in women’s sporting events after growing our hair out and getting breast implants 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 04:17 PM
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I’m a conventionally attractive asian guy, who was blessed with being 6ft tall (shocking I know). Too lazy to make a fake and upload pictures to imgur so here’s a picture of Sung Kang who I’ve been told I look like
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 03:52 PM
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Go to any women’s subreddit and you’ll find comments range from “Ha! Men. Am I right or what?” All the way up to “fuck these patriarchal knuckle draggers!” So I wouldn’t say their disdain for the opposite sex is all that unique The biggest issue with the MGTOW subreddit folks is that probably 25% of them at best are truly abstaining from relationships despite being able to get one. The rest are incels with a more positive mindset. Plus, I guarantee 95% of those guys would abandon the MGTOW ship …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/19 06:17 PM
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How else are you going to be some single mother’s beta bucks?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 06:36 AM
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The most important benefit of being female is reproduction...?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 01:57 AM
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I’ll counter your question with another question: What’s the ratio of male-to-female transgenders vs female-to-male?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/19 10:31 PM
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Male/Female power dynamic in order: Top 20% men Top 80% women Middle 60% men Bottom 20% women Bottom 20% men Truly ugly women have it bad, but not as bad as omega males. Additionally, they don’t get “used for sex”. The only women getting used for sex are the top 80% of women by the top 20% of men. The bottom 20% get wifed up by bottom/middle tier men who actually like them for who they are instead of their looks
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/19 10:26 PM
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Stereotyping ugly girls as being funny and interesting is just as bullshit as stereotyping hot girls as being vapid bitches
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/19 10:23 PM
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This is like a rich person complaining to a poor person that being wealthy sucks because they pay soooooo much more in taxes...don’t be surprised when you get no sympathy
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/19 09:32 PM
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Alphas and Betas are held to different standards and when you step out of line it’s going to cost you
/r/MGTOW10/10/19 09:29 PM
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You basically just provided a perfect list for why you need to get out ASAP. I’m all for working on a marriage if it has a solid foundation, but needs a little reinvigoration, but it sounds like you’ve got yourself one dumpster fire of a situation
/r/askMRP09/10/19 09:33 PM
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and her two kids Annnnnd that tells me everything I needed to know right there....just bail man. You fucked up from the very beginning. Go out and enjoy your life instead of being a cuckold for the benefit of a woman who will never love or desire you the way you want anyway
/r/askMRP09/10/19 09:20 PM
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they won’t love them like mothers do I think you answered your own question here. Most women feel some sort of attachment to the baby growing inside them. The women that are proud or callous about their abortions are the exception to the rule
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 07:42 PM
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Why are you booing me? I’m right. For real, I’ve ran into this more often then not...social media, TV shows, and maybe yoga if you’re lucky
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 03:09 AM
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Dayyymn...that’s a good point
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 02:51 AM
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Or could it be the latest fitness craze...just deadlift the average American woman
/r/TheRedPill02/10/19 05:33 AM
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Not the case in terms of who pays the most taxes and who uses the most government benefits
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 01:27 AM
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Survival: Women need men more Reproduction: Men need women more To put it another way: Men have an abundance of labor and resources which they exchange for sexual access Women have an abundance of sexual access which they exchange for labor and resources
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 07:26 PM
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Male/Female Order of power IMO: Top 20% of men Top 80% of women Bottom 80% of men Bottom 20% of women Women will always be the more valuable sex as they are the limiting factor in reproduction. Accordingly, by virtue of being the hot commodity they can get away with demanding more while bringing less to the table, until such time that men are the hot commodity (imagine a world war happens that kills off half the male population). Until then, as a man, the only way to win the game is to be in the…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 05:41 PM
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“I got married to a whore, that fucks like a prude” A great story originally posted on Reddit and analyzed by Rollo
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 05:08 PM
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“How can you sell something that no one wants to buy” Answer: Sell a better product
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/19 03:32 PM
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Women be like: “I don’t want to get all muscly and gross”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/19 03:30 PM
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Things are only mentally exhausting when you have to consciously think about it, but when you actually internalize it, it just comes naturally. Do you think an NFL quarter back is constantly stressed about throwing a spiral? Probably not unless it’s a particularly ‘make or break’ point in the game
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/19 03:28 PM
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Mental conditioning: when you spend years of your life watching other men have sex with women while pleasuring yourself, you start to associate watching other men fuck women with pleasure. Porn: not even once
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/19 03:26 PM
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Women are like Lamborghinis Men are like garbage trucks A Lamborghini with a working engine is still beautiful and a sight to behold, a garbage truck without a working engine is useless. Ultimately this is just the reality that women have intrinsic value while men have to earn their value in the form of social status, wealth, capacity for work, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/19 01:53 PM
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Not this edge-lord crap Lol aye. Sometimes the simplest explanation is the best one
/r/TheRedPill22/09/19 06:13 AM
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Ever heard of Lolo Jones? She’s an Attractive Olympian who at 36 is still a Virgin. See how well that worked out for her A woman’s capacity to attractive a high value man decreases sharply with age. Full stop. Would such a women be the prize of every god fearing beta male within a 50 mile radius? Absolutely. However, a truest high value man is often so accustomed to women eagerly having sex with him that he has no patience for “let’s wait until marriage”. Likewise why would a high value man deal…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/19 02:34 AM
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SMV is comprehensive: looks, income, confidence, social standing, etc...it all gets factored in. For two men to be of equal SMV but there be a disparity in attractiveness, the less attractive one has to make up for it somehow through one of the other categories. Why women on average (through data taken from dating sites and other sources) find non-white men to less attractive is a more complex question that I’ve never seen answered
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 08:03 PM
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very few women are fun to be around by men's standards so a lot of women get used for sex. Aye. This is why you’ll hear plenty of women say “all my friends are guys”, but you’ll almost never hear the opposite
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 05:16 PM
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It’s called a five-head
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/09/19 07:15 PM
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True Equality implies equal privileges and responsibilities... As many have noted, what women typical want are the benefits without the responsibilities, expectations, and drawbacks that men face
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/19 07:48 PM
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Male logic: Woman say they want XYZ—I have XYZ—therefore women should want me In reality it’s much much more complex than the basic qualifications that most women promote as being their standard. This is where TRP comes in. It pulls back the curtain and shows you what actually works instead of what should work
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/19 04:03 PM
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The modern dynamic benefits (in order): 1. Top 20% of men (Alphas) 2. Women 3. Bottom 80% of men (betas) Women will almost always benefit regardless of the dynamic because in the sexual market, they’re the hot commodity In regards to your sisters enjoying spinsterhood, how old are they? If they’re in their low 30’s for example, then of course they are, because their SMVs are still pretty high as is their ability to attract men. However, if your sisters are in their mid 40’s and loving the single…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/19 02:27 PM
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Two Factors: Social media has fed woman’s egos, made them feel like celebrities, and facilitated a giant “you go girl!” Circle jerk Sheng Nu, which is a Chinese term that translates to “leftover women”. Simply put, a woman who’s still single beyond 30 probably has more red flags than a rowdy soccer match.
/r/TheRedPill11/09/19 12:13 PM
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Outlier here: it was important to me that my wife be tall Why: The height for your sons is determined in part by the height genetics of the woman. Short wife = greater chance of manlet sons = more difficulty for sons in attracting women. Women select for tall men for the same reason, hence the “sexy son hypothesis” on top of more physically imposing men being better protectors (potentially)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/19 08:29 PM
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“Creeps” are just men who don’t understand their SMV relative to the girl they’re hitting on. Beta billy and Chad can approach the same woman in the exact same way; one will be called a creep and the other will be called cute. “Creep” = “how dare you even think you’re attractive enough to approach me...know your place”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/19 02:15 PM
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When Walmart or Amazon got off the ground, how many of you remained loyal to the “mom and pop” store that charges 30% more for the same items? This is the reality of male/female relationships, loyalty and relational equity mean next to nothing if the deal is good enough
/r/TheRedPill23/08/19 07:59 PM
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What do women gain or even perceive to gain by supporting MGTOW? The adoration of men? Hell no, they already have that in abundance. Conversely, a man who claims to be a feminist believes he’ll be rewarded with female attention...after all, to your average BP beta guy that seems quite intuitive. Supporting women and women’s rights = woman liking me more.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/19 07:55 PM
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In general I’d say many people use pets as substitute children. It’s not right or wrong. I just find it ironic that the same people who vehemently oppose children will then go one to treat their dogs like children
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 01:32 PM
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The “I don’t want kids timeline”: 20’s: Says she does want kids because she doesn’t like kids or they’ll interfere with her career/lifestyle 30’s: still claims to not want kids, but says it with much less conviction than before. Buys a dog which she oddly enough, treats just like a child 40’s: Laments about how she would have had kids but the timing wasn’t right/her career took priority/never found the right man. Recently got her second or third dog. Treats her pets like children in a cringey wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 01:12 PM
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The issue is usually that these men won’t commit or have obvious signs of being poor choices for long-term partners
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 02:35 PM
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It’s a judgement thing. A woman who is willing to do something, which goes so strongly against the norms of society is someone I’d prefer not to be involved with
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/19 02:43 PM
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Less aware or simply choosing to ignore? As a someone who has always valued logic, reason, and regulating emotions I often find myself simply tuning out when people make emotional arguments, especially when it’s belligerent simply because that’s not the manor in which polite society operates. This is not a result of me being unaware, it’s a matter of me drawing a firm line in the sand based on what I value when interacting with others. However, to my knowledge it is true that on average men have…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/19 04:40 PM
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Of course nothing in TRP is scientific because no scientist or researcher would touch any of this. Simply publishing a paper on this topic would make you subject to ridicule and be career suicide.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/19 03:09 AM
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When you have large populations of disenfranchised men; at best you get a bunch of people who don’t feel the need to be productive members of society and at worst you get revolutions and civil wars
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 11:17 AM
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Marriage is good. High partner counts aren’t always a death sentence, but they’re certainly red flag. She technically lied which is another issue. Ultimately most women have an incentive to stretch the truth on partner count; they know it looks bad
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/07/19 03:03 AM
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Anyone will be invisible when they lack whatever is valued in their respective gender
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 07:44 PM
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You think she’d actually be honest about it? I had this convo with my wife and the original number she gave me tripled once I pressured her for the real one. Took everything in me not to call off the relationship right there and then
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/07/19 06:44 PM
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And yet we’re expected to accept this. If anyone bought a car with an odometer reading 25K and you later found out it had been tampered with and was actually 125K, they’d be pissed beyond all belief
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/07/19 06:41 PM
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I would argue that the likelihood of getting cheated probably scales with SMV. At a fundamental level extramarital affairs are just opportunities to optimize hypergamy. A woman will only feel the need to optimize if she hasn’t already. A high SMV man has already satisfied the itch. A middle SMV man will facilitate hypergamous doubt and a low SMV man will have a wife who’s constantly looking for branch swinging opportunities either in the form of cheating, a divorce, or both.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 03:23 AM
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In my experience they only mention that someone is a minority when they’re the victim (not the perpetrator), with the underlying implication that the crime was racially motivated
/r/PussyPassDenied15/07/19 05:59 PM
120

News articles tend to default to your most relevant qualification as a member of society. When that qualification is cheerleader, you know she hasn’t done shit with her life
/r/PussyPassDenied15/07/19 05:39 PM
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MGTOW: 90% incels 10% Men who deliberately make a decision to opt out of the dating game because they don’t like what it’s become
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 09:07 PM
0

Just wait until they invent sex dolls that are almost indistinguishable from humans...there will be plenty of pissed off women who don’t even understand why they’re mad
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 05:42 PM
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The irony is that the only guys this shit would work on are the dudes who can’t sleep around anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 03:09 AM
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Shaming is one of the most common tactics women use to control men who won’t bow down to their sexual prerogatives; calling men “fuck boys” is no different
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 02:46 AM
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Evolutionarily speaking, promiscuity is largely a male reproductive strategy and a detrimental one for females (not as true anymore thanks to birth control/abortion)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/19 09:25 PM
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Exactly. This is how subs get quarantined. stupid posts like these get cherrypicked and held up as being representative of the entire sub (“These women haters encourage the physical abuse of their wives!!!”)
/r/askMRP27/06/19 04:47 PM
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The human body doesn’t waste precious resources to develop strength and resiliency when none is needed
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 07:36 PM
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Evolutionary necessity: sperm is cheap/eggs are expensive. Historically most men didn’t reproduce, therefore a man who was picky was weeded out of the gene pool
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 11:05 PM
1

I think what half the people on this thread need to admit is that who they envisioned Rollo to be in their heads didn’t match who he is in terms of how he looks, acts, sounds, etc. so it’s off putting; almost as if they got catfished. Doesn’t mean he’s alpha or beta, just that his writing outshines who he is in a tangible sense
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/19 05:21 AM
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Many NFL coaches would be shitty players if put out on the field, but they still know how to train players and strategize. Also, Rollo is wellinto middle age, which based on his own ‘infamous graph’ would imply that his SMV has been in decline for 10-15 years already. Even if he was a sexy alpha at one point you’d probably have a hard time imagining it based on his age alone. It’s the same thing with supermodels and actresses
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/19 05:13 AM
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It blows my mind to think that back in our grandparents prime 95% of all women essentially had good bodies...these days everyone is so damn fat that simply being thin makes a woman a default 7/10
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 02:20 PM
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The most straight to the point explain yet
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/06/19 11:13 PM
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Girls don’t want an “asshole” but “assholes” tend to have traits like confidence and assertiveness that are genuinely attractive in men. Additionally, there are many other traits that aren’t intrinsically bad but nevertheless get put in the asshole category, like being openly non-exclusive as a man (not a cheater) In terms of spinning plates and all that, the important point is not dating multiple women so much as it is being confident that you have other options...spinning plates is just a way …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 04:04 PM
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Nailed it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 02:26 AM
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r/smalldickproblems is 90% male eh? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 03:52 PM
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It’s a hybrid of a shit/comfort test. What she wants (aka how to fail): “I wasn’t looking! I swear! You’re the only girl I look at!” What you should say: “am exceptionally attractive girl might catch my eye from time to time...” You might as well go with response number two considering she’s already accusing you and ruining the night anyway...at least that way you’ll come out looking strong
/r/askMRP04/05/19 02:27 AM
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People in long term relationships do tend to get more attached to each other and feel a greater bond...while also losing attraction to each other. The reality is that when you first meet someone, there are many unknowns, uncertainty, and lots of newness to the relationship. It’s not exactly comfortable, but it’s thrilling! Kind of like a roller coaster. This is all just human nature; familiarity/comfort are on the opposite end of the spectrum from excitement/attraction; good relationships consis…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 01:56 PM
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Most people think that marriage is when you can finally let your hair down and “just be yourself”. In reality marriage is an uphill battle because you have to maintain the attraction despite becoming more familiar with each other and falling into a routine. Most people struggle to do this
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 01:32 AM
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This is similar to women shaming men for watching porn when they read “romance novels”. It’s the same shit because it provides for the same need..just with different packaging
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/19 05:41 AM
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These things are perceived to be a sign of insecurity Insecurity is basically expected in women, but condemned in men, hence the ridicule and shaming
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/19 05:07 AM
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Evolution doesn’t care about life expectancy, it’s cares about reproductive success. If there was a genetic condition that allow you to impregnate any women who came within 10 ft of you but also killed you at the age of 50, it would still spread like crazy and be incredibly evolutionary successful. If you’re a woman, you’re concerned about protection. Who is more intimidating? A guy who’s 5ft tall or a guy who’s 6ft tall? Accordingly, the woman is going to select the guy who’s 6ft. Also, scienti…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/19 01:00 PM
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60% of Americans are overweight or obese, which is a statistic that is only going up. This is part of the reason TRP tells folks to lift first and foremost...it’s an easy way to stand out In terms of other men becoming more competitive in a provider context (ie good job, nice house, etc) there’s no disagreement there but as any RP guy will point out, being a good provider (beta) isn’t what’s going to boost you above the rest. As Rollo likes to point out, women hate Betas so much that they would …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/19 12:14 PM
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I see where you’re coming from but the other side of this is that a liberal think tank/university probably wouldn’t even touch a subject where the theory is that a woman’s promiscuity is a negative thing. People will or won’t push a study depending on whether it supports their narrative
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/19 04:36 PM
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Can’t confirm the symbol but it definitely said 44 M
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 04:37 PM
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So much for a civil debate
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 04:33 PM
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I suppose but I suspect for both sexes they’ve spent a lot more time thinking back on how much they missed the feeling of a particular relationship than how great some girl rocked their dick
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 04:32 PM
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I’m confused, your flair says you’re a 44 year old man, but your wording implies you’re a woman...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 02:59 PM
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Indeed they do
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 02:55 PM
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“Alpha Widows Alpha Widows are women who’ve had an Alpha man in their past make such an impression upon them that any man that comes along after him must essentially fight with that impression in order to replace him as the optimal Alpha in her life. This is usually the man a woman pines for from her Party Years. Often he’s the first guy who ever fulfilled her Hypergamous dance card. Generally, this man is at least her perceptual ideal of the sexual selection criteria she was prioritizing during…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 02:54 PM
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“Your theory that applies to the general populace on average is totally debunked because it doesn’t match MY experience!” Sorry but when we’re discussing societal level issues, simply stating that your personal experience differs doesn’t count as a refute. Nevertheless, if you have something to counter what said that’s not purely anecdotal I’d be more than happy to hear it and discuss
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 12:59 PM
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By virtue of men having SMVs that rise with age, men tend to date/have sex with better and better women as they get older so their chances of feeling regret over previous partners is lessened. Sex isn’t nearly as much of an emotional bonding moment as it is for women (men don’t form attachments as much through sex/they can separate sex from love) Sleeping with large numbers of women (I.e. spreading their seed) is the male evolutionary imperative, so men have evolved to not have mental hold ups w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 12:43 PM
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To put this study/general claim into perspective with an example: Imagine you grow up in a small town that only has 2 restaurants. Because that’s all you know, you think that these two restaurants have the best food in the country. However after high school you move to a medium size city to go to college and find even more restaurants...these are even better than your home town ones! And now that you’ve been to them you think “maybe those restaurants in my hometown weren’t really all that great.…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 11:41 AM
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I wouldn’t say it’s mandatory but definitely a preference. This goes double for women who are tall
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 01:09 AM
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High N-count women are still hypergamous, but they’re also hardcore alpha widows... Simply put a woman with many partners is more likely to have dated/fucked a 10/10 guy who is out of her league. Having accomplished this her standards are that much higher so after they part ways she’s forever preoccupied with trying to find a man of similar caliber who she’ll likely never find.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 01:07 AM
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Assuming a man and women who are both 7’s: The man will date/have sex with a 5-10 The woman will date/have sex with a 7+ Not an exact science, but in general men will dip blow their own SMV, women won’t
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 12:57 AM
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Even low achieving men will generally be better in their 30’s than their 20’s by virtue of being more confident, less socially awkward, and earning more. But I would definitely say that men can really get a boost by focusing on self-improvement. Conversely with women it’s more about trying to slow the decline of the SMV they inherited in their 20’s
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 04:00 PM
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Sperm is cheap and eggs are expensive so it makes evolutionary sense for women to be more picky...but most women don’t realize just how picky they are. Case in point, women routinely want men 6ft or taller, which is only about 15% of the American male population
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 03:50 PM
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Wholeheartedly agree...which a rarity on this forum as a RP guy. The issue IMO is that while most women recognize that their SMV is tied to their youth, I don’t think most RP understand that their SMV is going to increase with age
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 03:37 PM
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Corrected for clarity
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 03:32 PM
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I stand by my original point. I’d argue that second wave feminisms biggest benefit to women was freeing them from being dependent on men to succeed and having a comfortable life...it sure as hell didn’t do anything to counter male sexuality
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 03:20 PM
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Exactly. This is why men get pissed when they say they can’t find a guy/get laid. They take it literally, when reality she can’t find the ‘right’ guy. When I guy says he can’t get laid he generally men’s it literally
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 03:18 PM
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Feminism was not a reaction to playboy, because feminism did nothing to counter male sexuality/the male imperative...all it did was free up female sexuality and facilitate a greater acceptance of female hypergamy. Ironically enough, the greatest beneficiaries of feminism are alpha males, who previously had to limit their quest for unlimited sexuality to the shadowy world of affairs and hookups with “loose women”. Post feminism/sexual revolution, women giving it up became “empowering” and alpha m…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 02:55 PM
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Most people (men and women) don’t understand the difficultly of dating/getting laid until they’re out of a LTR. It’s easy to “be a catch” in the eyes of one person who you know like the back of your hand. It’s much harder to be a catch in the eyes of the general population
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 02:40 PM
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It dramatically changes the lives of women those who find it, by showing them how to be in that top 20%
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/19 01:32 PM
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At the very least it’s potentially a problem from a sociology standpoint. One of the commonalities between the most war torn and unstable countries in the world is the acceptance and popularity of polygamy; a system in which the top men get multiple women, inevitably leaving other men without wives, access to reproduction, and sexuality in general. This leads to a large contingent of dissatisfied men who will willingly engage in violent acts to change the dynamic leading to the destabilization o…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/19 01:02 PM
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I’m not saying men and women are one dimensional, but it’s a interesting problem. Throughout most of human history your average man or women existing within some small group of people where they access to no more than 100 potential partners. Now thanks to globalization, the internet, etc. you have access to millions. This dynamic is bound to play out interestingly, when evolutionarily we’re still thousands of years in the past
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/19 12:47 PM
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A lot of people are implying that tinder/okcupid aren’t realistic conditions and therefore don’t reflect reality. However, I’d argue that what makes this so interesting is that it’s a thought experiment, carried out with real people. “What would happen if men/women had access to an (seemingly) unlimited number of partners to date?” Women: being the pickier ‘quality over quantity’ sex get exceptionally picky and only shoot for the best...and why wouldn’t they? The number of partners, especially i…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/19 12:06 PM
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When it comes to SMV, a woman’s appearance is much more important than a man’s; simple as that. A some level women overwhelmingly understand this and put a lot of effort into improving their appearance as a result, hence the focus on makeup, fashion, anti-aging progress, plastic surgery etc
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/19 04:53 PM
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High SMV men follow a different set of rules than low SMV. Case in point, [https://me.me/i/know-the-work-rules-lookin-good-susan-lookin-good-susan-4734701](this meme) has more truth than people want to give it credit for
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/19 12:22 PM
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The fact that your biggest concern about having children is your post baby body tells me you’re not ready for kids. The effect the kids will have on your relationship should be your biggest concern. On that topic, my advice is always put your relationship before your kids; sounds counter intuitive, but anything else will lead to divorce However in terms of your body changing, there are a few women don’t bounce back: Those who have twins (just too much stretch) Older Women; 35+ (less collagen in …
/r/askMRP08/03/19 10:43 PM
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I second this analysis
/r/askMRP06/03/19 03:47 PM
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Attractive traits are a proxy for fertility and genetic fitness No one is claiming that younger universally means more SMV especially a 14 year old...so that’s a straw man argument If you were to consistently attempt to impregnate a series of let’s say 40 women spread evenly across ages 20 to 45, the younger ones would consistently provide healthier and greater numbers of children Almost no man prefers 40 year olds to 25 year olds
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 02:41 PM
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A lot of what is being discussed is simply trying understand what is really evolutionary biology. It should come as no surprise that a woman’s attractiveness and fertility peaks in the 18-25 range and than begin to exponentially tank afterward...the two go hand in hand because attraction is just a proxy for determining whether an individual would be a good partner for reproductive. Evolutionarily speaking, the men who went after 20 year olds had plenty of healthy off spring while the men who wen…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 08:58 AM
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Edited for clarity; most notably that I don’t agree with OP
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/19 02:02 PM
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Men are predators, women are prey. The concern is about protecting prey from predators, not the other way around and this is the dynamic that society follows. Accordingly, there are many double standards as a result.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/19 01:09 PM
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Your average woman’s sexual strategy doesn’t really change much throughout her life, it’s pretty much always “alpha fucks/beta bucks”. However, what does change dramatically throughout a woman’s life is her SMV and her associated capacity to attract a high value man. As a woman’s SMV declines throughout her 20’s/30’s there’s a subtle understanding of this causing needs to gradually become wants while focusing more on pragmatism over idealism. In other words, she still wants to maximize AF/BB, bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/19 12:41 PM
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All men want sex
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/19 10:54 PM
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Evolutionary biology would say that woman are choosey because eggs are expensive and sperm is cheap. Accordingly, I do genuinely believe that women make more demands of men then men make of women. From a man’s perspective this makes a woman appear to be entitled to a good man even when she herself isn’t anything special. It seems like a double standard, but from an evolutionary standpoint females are simply of greater value than males...there’s a reason that it’s “women and children first” and w…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 01:42 PM
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If she were going to med school I’d give you a pass because you have to apply to 20 of them in order to get into 1 and it could be anywhere....however nursing programs are a dime a dozen unless you’re living in the middle of Montana right now. The fact that she went out of state seems to be hinting at something else...like most people hear I suspect she’s setting herself up to leave you or at least have that option in her back pocket
/r/askMRP27/02/19 01:14 PM
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To my knowledge the biggest correlation when it comes to a woman’s beauty is her potential to attract a high status man and have greater life outcomes for herself and her children. More specifically I recall I study which found a direct correlation of thinner woman having higher earning/status husbands
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 01:01 PM
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Only 9’s that fit someone’s niche/fetish and get that bonus point
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 12:57 PM
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There’s an incredible amount of truth in your argument, mainly that when the government subsidizes something they’re basically encouraging it. I think part of the reason you’re getting a lot of crap on this is because you didn’t tie it back to the RP as clearly as you could. The greatest implication IMO is that because the government is taking over the provisioning aspect of things, women have less of an incentive to pursue the Beta bucks side of hypergamy
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/19 01:51 PM
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The context there is roughly in the 1960’s...these days I’d guess your average man is probably expecting sex after 2-3 dates
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/19 01:39 PM
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For a minute let’s look at sex like an economist would: Sex is arguably one of a woman’s most powerful commodities in the romance economy...men want it and women are its keepers 60 years ago or so women acted a lot like a cartel in keeping the value of sex high by only providing it when very strict conditions were met in the form of a man’s love, formal commitment, and provisioning Even in the most traditional societies a few women realized that sex being as valuable as it is, could lucratively …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/19 01:27 PM
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I suspect part of the reason that this all sounds so incredulous is because you were raised in a more traditional family with strong masculine figures and traditional values. The reality in the US at least is that we’re a generation of men raised by women who are told to defer to the feminine while simultaneously being told that boys are simply defective girls. The end result is that men in this county genuinely believe that if they get more in touch with their feminine sides and put women first…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/19 01:06 PM
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Ultimately I’m making a generalization about the reality that men tend to grow up receiving a bad batch of information from mothers, sisters, the media, the very women they’re trying to attract, etc. Usually this information comes down to being particularly beta only to be shocked when they can’t attract women, despite doing and being the very things women claim to want. Men tend to be very logical creatures who will try to be exactly what women claim they want men to be...when that fails they j…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/19 05:55 AM
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You focused on the sex and forgot the first and most important part: romance. You’re telling me that most men don’t believe that if they treat a woman with kindness, love, and respect that they’ll be rewarded with an unending romance?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/19 03:08 AM
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The other aspect to this is men who improve themselves who are already in a relationship. While many woman would certainly enjoy their boyfriend/husband becoming more attractive, there’s also a certain amount of anxiety that comes with it. In fact, the concept of dread game is based on exactly that. As I like to say, having a sexy partner isn’t comfortable and a comfortable partner is rarely sexy
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/19 02:59 PM
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Most redpill men would say that getting married is foolish in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/19 04:52 AM
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You’re right, but In many cases a woman is better off sharing a rich man than having a poor man a to herself. In regards to your second point, provisioning/stability and raw sexual attraction rarely exist in the same man
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/19 12:28 AM
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There’s a reason that for most of human civilization, rich/powerful men tended to have multiple wives...it satisfies the evolutionary desires of both parties: The man gets sexual variety and greater sexual access Women got access to the sources of a rich/powerful man instead of getting a low tier loser all to herself
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 02:16 PM
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A few points: Immoral is a value judgement...the question is whether TRP is factual “Keep changing what is the redpill”: Good science is constantly changed and update as we gather more information and develop new theories Most don’t strive to understand TRP in a scholarly way because they don’t care. It’s a useful tool and it works. How many people use a computer daily, but have no idea how it works? I guess about 95%. TRP is no different here.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 02:09 PM
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TRP is like a journey to enlightenment combined with grieving the loss of your BP ideals. Recall, that one of the 5 stages of grief is anger, which in this case is basically anger/hate toward woman. Why? Because men quickly realize that woman aren’t these perfect infallible princesses of greater virtue and morals (Believe it or not, most men put woman on a pedestal). What makes men even angrier is that all of the red pills “misogynist ideas and techniques” actually work! At this point many men s…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 02:00 PM
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There’s a reason that TRP sub is filled with a whole bunch of angry, disillusioned guys...most of them were promised this bluepill fantasy where if they treated woman with kindness, love, and respect they’d live happily ever after in unending romance and passionate sex...just like in all those movies and TV shows. TRP shatters this illusion into a million pieces and tells you how it really is. To make it all worse, all of the “misogynistic” things that TRP teaches you work..it fucking works grea…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 01:37 PM
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Biggest thing: The honeymoon period goes away. The most obvious aspect of this is that you’ll go from having sex to multiple times per day when you met to maybe twice a week after a few years. This is more of a factor of time than it is marriage, but marriage certainly accelerates it. Familiarity goes up greatly as a result of living together and feeling like you can finally relax: in practicality this means that you can no longer hide the fact that you have the shits after eating some bad Mexic…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 01:23 PM
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Men in their 20’s: Where are all the women? Women in their 30’s: Where are all the men? A telling dynamic to say the least...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/19 01:46 PM
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The hard science is certainly hard to come by two main reasons as far as I can tell: Its a topic in which new ground is really being broke It’s too controversial to be a viable research topic in most cases I think the second point is really the biggest factor here. Just look at how much outrage there is in regards to TRP. When I first discovered TRP in 2013, that sub quickly became one of the go to answers for askreddits “What are the most toxic subs/most controversial subs/most hated subs, etc”…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/19 12:56 PM
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Some mainstream redpill truths based on a study
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/19 03:01 AM
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I can understand the perception of it being anecdotal if you’re basing it on reddit alone, but If you read The Rational Male or some of the better evo-psych/evo-biology books, there’s certain a scientific basis for TRP. Hell, even The Atlantic has put our multiple articles that espouse redpill truths
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/19 02:59 AM
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TLDR: Woman are most attracted to men who are “better” than they are. Negging helps create this perception Negging, cock/funny and other similar techniques work if and only if the guy pulls off the execution with confidence. If done right it comes off as playful teasing. Some might be shocked that what amounts to being lightly insulting would work, but think of the opposite; the beta who puts woman on a pedestal, worshiping the ground she walks on, and providing a stream of never ending complime…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 10:23 PM
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Answer: What women are looking for in a relationship is much easier to fake in the context of text (the preferred method for anonymous scammers). Case in point, women are overwhelmingly the consumers of romance novels.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 09:16 PM
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Many men will tell you that they get much more attention from woman at 35 than they did at 25 despite losing their hair and gaining a few pounds. Most don’t really understand the concept of SMV, but they usually pick up on the practical aspects of it Conventions surrounded men tend to obscure their rising SMV: The myth of “the lonely old man” Shaming men into settling down by implying the myth mentioned above That men are in are in their “sexual prime” in their twenties That men are most desirab…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 07:08 PM
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In some cases sure, but in my experience even when a man’s SMV eclipses his wife’s he usually does realize it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 06:54 PM
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By the time most men understand their value they’ve already committed...not to mention that most men don’t ever really understand their value, thanks to the numerous conventions that keep them obvious to realities of SMV. Plus like most questions asked on this sub, the default presumption is that the man is alpha, despite roughly 80% of men being beta; doctors and lawyers are no exception here Plus keep in mind, many professional men meet their wives when they’re still in law/med school earning …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 02:20 PM
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Basically what I’m getting at is that isolated incidents might just be a fluke, but when you say that this is happening with nearly all the men you interact with, you have to ask yourself what all these incidents have in common. The way I see it it’s either you or your taste in a particular type of guy. I can also say that platitudes about men being non-comittal, afraid of intimacy, etc are non-sense. Your average man is quite thirsty in reality
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 03:06 AM
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When the problem is being framed as everyone else being the problem, 9/10 times YOU are usually the problem. Some more introspection is required here, but I suspect you may come off as being overbearing
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 01:25 AM
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Your so ugly that a Transexual is better looking to men then you are
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/19 05:04 PM
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As someone who is both a high earner and in good shape, it hard for me to understand why people can’t do both. They both require willpower but applied in different ways
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/19 04:37 PM
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Why men get butthurt when women talk about income preferences: Median income in the US: $31,786 Income needed to get an average response rate from women on okcupid: ~$60,000 Why women get butthurt when men talk about weight/body type preferences: -Average Woman’s dress size: 14-16 -Men’s preferred body type (by dress size): 8 In both cases, you have a situation where the preference very different from the average, leading to insecurity and shaming the opposite sex for their preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/19 04:32 PM
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Good News: Another study recently found that their is no “natural decline” in testosterone with age. In reality it’s a combination of a sedentary lifestyle combined with diet and a few other bad habits that people tend to adopt with age.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/19 01:17 PM
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A woman’s n count is like taxes: the ideal amount is none, but most would agree that’s not realistic. However at a certain point for both n count and taxes we say fuck it, that’s too high, and we opt out. I understand your point which is that n count isn’t that important, particularly in the modern age and when compared to other things, but it still matters...probably more so on the high end than anything. Case in point, a woman not being a Virgin isn’t a deal breaker for most men, but having sl…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 09:48 PM
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I would agree with you on everything except the idea that a low n count doesn’t increase SMV. While most men will probably forgive a high n count for a woman who’s smoking hot, men undoubtedly prefer women who have had fewer partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 02:21 PM
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The idea is that a woman has a greater incentive to be choosey not only because of her lower reproductive potential, but also because she’s generally the one who has the burden of raising the child. Accordingly if she chooses wrong, she either ends up with a genetically unfit child or father ends up being a deadbeat who can’t provide. Conversely, there’s little disadvantage to a man impregnating as many woman as he can
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 01:24 PM
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Evolutionary Perspective: TLDR: Sperm is cheap, eggs are expensive. This incentivizes men to sleep around and women to be choosy in comparison. Accordingly, men who sleep around are generally happy because they’ve fulfilled their evolutionary imperative, while women who sleep around usually aren’t. Men have different reproductive strategies based on the realities of their reproductive situation. Assume for the sake of a thought experiment, that for both genders, every sexual encounter leads to c…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 05:34 AM
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When it comes to things like Tinder, having curb appeal is definitely a factor, but in day to day interactions it’s personality traits that win a woman’s affections. Unfortunately most men think a good personality equates to nice guy beta male shit
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 06:45 PM
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By the same logic I’d also argue that men tend to overestimate the importance of their looks in attracting woman because that’s what they value in the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 04:42 PM
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A few points: Women will readily do plenty of fucked up shit in the bedroom at the drop of a hat for the right guy. There are plenty of stories on reddit about wives who refuse to do “sexually degrading things” with her husband, only for the husband to find out that the wife happily got gang banged back in college Women will readily hook up thanks to the race-to-the-bottom that is hook up culture
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 12:18 AM
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Kids are like investing for retirement: not that enjoyable in the near term, but very lucrative in the long term. Mind you this is what studies find, not just my opinion. Kids decrease life satisfaction in the near term, but massively improve it in your later years. I’d argue this is pretty much common sense. It’s nice to have a legacy and people you can celebrate Christmas with
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 04:32 PM
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And a lot of what women consider to be male privilege only applies to high status men...it works both ways and in each case individuals with low SMV are basically invisible so they get excluded from the gender calculus when generalizing
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 01:33 PM
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In a world where social media and endless selfie posts dominate our attention, is it any surprise that a greater emphasis is being placed on a woman’s looks
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 07:19 PM
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The feminine imperative exists to further its own goals. Accordingly, when men say no fatties or no sluts they’re singling out a relatively large and common group of women and saying the equivalent of “As a result of these traits, you’re a woman of low SMV and not worthy of my attention”. Unsurprisingly, women don’t like this
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/19 12:24 AM
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Can’t find it unfortunately. Regardless, winning with such an argument would probably be tough in court
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 05:52 AM
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There was a guy who got his alimony reduced by calculating out the monetary value of his wife’s house labor and arguing that since she’s not longer providing that service to him that it should be deducted from his alimony
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 05:38 PM
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I’d argue that career women usually fall into two camps: Women who believe that what’s good for male SMV must be good for female SMV Women who at some level understand that they can’t compete with other women in traditional feminine ways (unattractive women) so they compete in masculine ways
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 01:17 PM
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The thing with being BP or having oneitis is that while you’re in the honeymoon period everything is rainbows and sunshine because you’re reaffirming what you believe. It’s the other 80% of the time where things go to shit
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/19 05:51 PM
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Awesome graphic. This really touches on the reality that men who aren’t in the top 20% are essentially invisible to women which is why it’s so easy for them to make the patriarchy argument
/r/MensRights27/01/19 03:51 PM
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I get that everyone has baggage, but why the fuck would you lead with that???
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/01/19 10:00 PM
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Then don’t get married...in the same way that people imply that women give up sex too easily, the same could be said about all the thirsty Betas that are eager to wife up girl who just got off the cock carousel
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/19 08:13 PM
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TLDR: Women: “SMV inheritance” Men: “Hard earned SMV wage” From a male perspective it doesn’t exactly seem fair... Most men don’t like the idea that they have to work on their personality and social skills because it’s fucking hard! Likewise, the path to personal improvements rarely quick or obvious. However, the payoff is long lasting Conversely, most women inherit their attractiveness through youth and good looks which aren’t exactly “hard earned” but nevertheless fade quickly with age To many…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/19 01:52 AM
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Society rewards her with praise and validation for doing it is what I suspect, which doesn’t fit hypergamy per say, but nevertheless provides a good hit of dopamine/serotonin. There’s also the reality that some individuals do have a strong moral code. While RP concepts generally hold true at a societal level, there are certainly individuals who go against the status quo
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/19 04:59 AM
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Having read through some of your responses to other people’s comments, the trend seems to be that you have a victim mentality driven by a clear insecurity about your looks (physique). I can almost guarantee you’re looks are fine, but your insecurity is making you come across to women as some sort of poor incel
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/19 04:52 AM
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Men overestimate how important looks are in attracting women. They matter, but no where close to how much they matter for women. Confidence, charisma, and social status are arguably more important for men. Also, teenagers aren’t you competition, not by a long shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/19 02:54 AM
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Simply going to the gym and getting a bit of muscle (even with moderate body fat) will put you leagues above men who don’t Most men would prefer a gorgeous woman with D cups but I’ll gladly take a gorgeous woman with B’s
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/19 02:32 AM
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High N count isn’t inherently bad, it just increases the chances of a woman being an alpha widow. Hip-hop and Rap artists tend to be very masculine/alpha dudes (usually...) which negates the issue for the most part
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/19 02:16 AM
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It’s called The Epiphany Phase “there comes a point on women’s SMV (sexual market value) progression where she becomes cognizant of her SMV decline and impending date with The Wall. Generally this occurs in women’s late 20’s and possibly early 30’s but as a rough estimate on the graph I provided in that post, this is the point of transition at which women realize their decaying capacity to hypergamously compete with women in their sexual primes, and the point at which men are beginning to realiz…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/19 01:59 AM
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By the same criteria there’s a shortage of good women as well...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 05:10 PM
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The saying is “nice guys finish last” not “nice guys never finish”. The implication is that women only go for the nice one they’re done with their party years and fucking a bunch of Chads (Great Story about that here)[https://therationalmale.com/2013/12/03/saving-the-best/]
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 03:29 PM
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Emotional cheating is many levels above pornography viewing because: It involves a real life accessible person It’s generally a precursor to a woman leaving her partner or at least entertaining whether the prospective partner is worth the risk of branch swinging it’s actual infidelity For the record, the equivalent to men watching porn is women reading romance/sex novels
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 08:17 AM
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Through every society men are the ones who set the standards of expectations...western society has gone down the route of giving women greater and greater privileges without any expectation of greater personal responsibility. Combine that with how thirsty your average man is and you have a race to the bottom in which women become increasingly entitled Case in point: 100 years ago a woman who weighed 200 pounds would have been a sideshow attraction while a woman who had slept with 20 men would ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 06:59 PM
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TRP is just one part of the “manosphere”, a group that consists of men’s rights/issues sub-genres. Men are largely seen as the group with societal power, so when these groups come along which disprove/counter this narrative it intrinsically takes power away from the feminist narrative. TRP specifically undermines the feminine sexual imperative, which in a big picture sense poses the same threat as making abortion illegal or banning birth control; it reduces a woman’s ability to optimize hypergam…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 06:54 PM
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Best Examples I can think of: Realizing that sexual market value trumps personal value (ie men care about your looks more than your masters degree and “emotional maturity”) The epiphany phase: when a women realizes that she can no longer compete with younger sexier women and that she isn’t what she used to be Most women have found themselves in a position of saying they want a “nice guy” only to eventually realize that’s not who they gravitate to in practice When a women realizes that her value …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 03:04 PM
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For perspective: The average person views themselves as above average in attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 04:38 PM
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The examples you’d mentioned have nothing to do with TRP, those are just men’s issues generally
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 07:55 PM
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Most women would certainly prefer tall over short but at a certain point the additional height makes less attractive. Similarly most men would find a swimmers body more attractive then a world class body builder
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 07:36 PM
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Being wealthy or educated does very little for women when attracting a man
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 07:21 PM
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According to research the most attractive height is 6’2” and a man’s attractiveness decreases bell curve style +- every inch (yes this implies that your average woman finds a 6 ft tall man more attractive than a man who is 6’5”)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 07:19 PM
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Other thing to factor in: Let’s say a couple gets divorced and they’re both 45 years old, which one is doing to be more desirable based on SMV...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 07:13 PM
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How old were they when they divorced?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 07:11 PM
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Divorce isn’t about money, it’s about branch swinging and finding a better man
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 06:55 PM
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“I don’t want to get all muscley and gross” -Women when talking about lifting I wish it were that simple to get “muscley and gross”...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 01:31 AM
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Life is easier when you have someone else facilitating your comfort and survival, which is why 9/10 people would rather be led than do the leading
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 03:50 AM
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The name implies some sort of alliance in thought and desire, but the reality is that men and women’s evolutionary sexual strategies are always in conflict. Case in point TRP says avoid marriage at all costs while RPW places a high value on marriage (shocker I know) With that in mind, the two have almost nothing in common except for mutual agreement that men should be leading the relationship...however more often than not RPW are “leading from the bottom” by trying to get their currently beta ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 01:36 PM
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Whether you’re in a relationship or in the military, you’ll only take issue with being subordinate to someone when you don’t respect them or suspect them to be an incompetent leader.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 01:29 PM
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What happens when you marry a woman with a high n count: “I am so fucking lucky. I got married to a whore, that fucks like a prude.” Also see: The Rational Male-Saving the Best TLDR: Women with high n counts are likely already alpha widowed and probably not giving you their sexual best
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 12:49 PM
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Sex robots are a greater threat to women than to men
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 01:37 AM
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This still implies that the type of men who brag about getting laid probably aren’t getting laid regularly...in other words you’re highlighting yourself as being a beta
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 01:35 AM
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You’re correct in that women like “just be yourself” because it encourages yucky beta males to know their place and stay in it. No woman like the idea that her alpha is just some loser beta in disguise. However, the implication is that at a certain arbitrary point you’re either a natural alpha or you’re not and if you’re not, any change after that point is disingenuous. By that same logic a fat girl who gets into shape is really just a fat woman tricking men with a hot girl disguise
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 03:13 PM
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Being yourself usually means being complacent with the loser that you are. TRP first and foremost is about self-improvement (dressing better, going to the gym, etc.). Self-improvement isn’t deception, it’s being your best you vs just being you
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 03:05 PM
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“the guys who whine about that advice are/were losers.” You make it sound as though this is some sort of “gotchya” statement, but the reality is that you’re correct....no one seeks out TRP because they’re getting mad pussy. They seek out TRP because what they’re currently doing/Believe isn’t working for them. In other works they’re seeking self-improvement
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 03:03 PM
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A man who you have the fortitude to withhold sex from probably isn’t a man you’re all that attracted to in the first place (aka a beta) but he’ll probably commit to you. Conversely the type of man you’re attracted to at an instinctual level is one you’ll eagerly have sex with right off the bat, but it’s doubtful a man of that caliber will want to commit to you when hookup culture has provided him with an all-you-can-fuck buffet
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 02:51 PM
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Note: This only works for women. “Being yourself” as a man usually means being a loser, but hey, at least your mom thinks you’re a catch
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 02:28 PM
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Clever answer: A key that can open any lock is a master key—a lock that can be opened by any key is a terrible lock Evolutionary Biology Answer: Male Perspective on women: Prior to the invention of DNA paternity testing a man really had no assurance that a child was his. His best bet was to reproduce with a woman who was chaste and didn’t associate with too many men outside her family Male Perspective on himself: Sleeping with more women = more offspring = greater evolutionary success Female Per…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 02:05 PM
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Cheating is bad?!?....wow what a total mindfuck
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 01:51 PM
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Casual friends/work friends/acquaintances: Yes Good friends/Best friends: Rarely IMO its difficult for men to develop strong friendships with women he’s attracted to without their being a desire for sex...after most wives and girlfriends are basically friends you sex with when it comes down to it. Anecdotally, I’ve seen many male “friends” drop off the map for women once that woman gets married, has kids, etc. aka once they realize sex probably isn’t going to happen
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 01:43 PM
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Women want alpha men, But for the most alpha men life is like an all-you-can-fuck buffet so there’s no incentive to commit to one women One the flip side, betas are eager to commit but not sexy What she’s basically saying is “All the Chads I find sexy won’t commit to me, but beta billy makes me drier than a desert...what’s a girl to do???”
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/01/19 01:24 PM
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Flirting is just a socially acceptable way to tell someone that you’re interested in them romantically or sexually. Accordingly, it’s hard to be romantically/sexually involved with someone if you don’t flirt
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 09:37 PM
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He is now, but quite awhile he was the poster-boy for “man up and get married already!”
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 01:39 PM
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For every woman who dates an asshole there’s a man who dates a psychotic bitch. The reality is that when we’re younger we often don’t have the relationship expertise to spot the red flags from the get go. The trouble women get into is a result of the fact that alpha men can take many forms, from abusive drug dealers to corporate CEOs who lead bible study on sunday. In a world where sexy alpha men are in short supply, that drug dealer can often seem irresistible despite his objectively bad traits…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 01:05 PM
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Most men that have SMVs which are high enough usually do end up going this route either by: Never getting married, doing pump and dump (“Players” and “Fuckbois”) Engaging in serial monogamy but never committing long term (George Clooney types) Getting married and divorced multiple times always to younger women (Donald Trump for example and male celebrities generally) Being “social monogamous” but sexually polygamous aka cheating on their wives/gfs
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 12:55 PM
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You’re not entirely wrong, but you make the common female mistake of conflating all men with alpha men while forgetting about the remaining 80% (its almost as if beta men don’t exist...) Realities of male sexual strategy: if a man is an Alpha and we assume that he has unlimited access to unlimited sexuality, then yes pump and dump is the ideal evolutionary strategy Betas however don’t have the luxury of unlimited access to unlimited sexuality so it makes more evolutionary sense to take what he c…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 12:09 PM
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See the edit
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 11:46 AM
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“She want’s you to ‘get it’ on your own, without having to be told how. That initiative and the experience needed to have had developed it makes you a Man worth competing for. Women despise a man who needs to be told to be dominant. Overtly relating this to a guy entirely defeats his credibility as a genuinely dominant male. The guy she wants to fuck is dominant because that’s ‘the way he is’ instead of who she had to tell him to be.” Source: https://therationalmale.com/2012/08/22/just-get-it/
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 11:42 AM
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Men/Society tell women: “Big is beautiful” or some variation implying being overweight is attractive. That women can have children well into their 40’s That things like education and career building add to a woman’s sexual market value (SMV) That a woman’s personal value = her SMV That being assertive and aggressive (masculine traits) are attractive in women
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 11:37 AM
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Low effort post, so here’s your low effort comment
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 01:33 PM
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Men being treated as defective women...no surprise there
/r/MensRights09/01/19 01:25 PM
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Economists have already proven many times that “the wage gap” is not due to discrimination
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 02:16 PM
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Here’s how this post will go down: Blue Pillers: AH HA! I knew TRP was BULLSHIT!!! Proof Positive! Purple Pillers: Glad to here since this really relieves my cognitive dissidence! Red Pillers: Meh this doesn’t mean much! Come talk to us in 10 years... Ultimately, one man’s anecdote from his own relationship isn’t exactly enough to disprove a theory that’s being applied at a societal level
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 01:46 PM
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“Real Man” as defined by your average woman is whatever is needed by her at the time to maximize her hypergamous strategy Sexy Alpha Male?: “A real man would commit, get married, and stop being a player” Average Beta male?: “A real man would support a woman and her child without any expectations sex” Disgusting Omega Male?: “A real man would just value her friendship and wouldn’t put a her in a position of discomfort by hitting on her” Note that the definition of a “real man” changes depending o…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 02:00 PM
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Beta Uprising lol. Only half kidding though...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 01:30 PM
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Evolutionary psychology (not even TRP) would say that: Women’s SMV is based on: Physical Attractiveness Youth Why? Because these two traits are both indicators of a woman’s ability to provide strong, healthy, and attractive children Men’s SMV is based on: Social Status Wealth (ability to provide) Masculinity Physical ability Confidence/Charisma Why? Because these traits are indicative of a man’s ability to provide, protect, and sire genetically fit children Note the difference in desirable quali…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 01:04 PM
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Better that you make a woman feel something (positive or negative) than nothing at all. Believe it or not, a woman who feels apathy toward her partner will lose interest much quicker than one who feels negatively toward him. This is part of the reason why women will stay in abusive relationships for so long but ditch the boring beta after a month.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 12:14 PM
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People are inconsistent, that’s just part of being human. We cherry pick things that support our existing views and ignore information to the contrary
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 02:52 AM
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As someone who is a very logical/critical thinker, most of TRP was very easy to conceptualize and accept when put into a evolutionary psychology/biology context. Simply put, women are just doing what’s best for them from an evolutionary standpoint. There is no grand evil plan or desire to trick you. What you’re doing sounds like a lazy means of trying to understand women work by pretending its Opposite Day. When you actually take the time to understand and internalize TRP you’ll see that underst…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/19 04:39 PM
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If you’re getting “Platted” by a woman She’s just not that into you! End of story, move on. The problem with most guys is that because they fall into the 80% side of things, they have no idea what it’s like to have a women absolutely lust for them (aka true genuine attraction)...they think that getting dicked around and platted is just how it goes. When a women plates you, it’s a subconscious way of her saying “I’m waiting to see if something better comes along...”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/19 04:38 AM
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Would you say that you have a great body? If you don’t, that’s something will within your control that you can use to attract men Also, the reality is that men are much less picky compared to what you might think. I’d say that out of: Face Body Personality You only need to have 2 of the 3. You can’t really control the face you’re born with, but you can certainly hit the gym to get a rockin’ body. From what you’ve said previously it’s sounds like personality is the biggest thing to work on. In so…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/19 12:16 AM
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On a scale of 1-10 what would you say you are attractiveness wise? What’s your height and weight?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 10:30 PM
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Question: are you getting absolutely no attention at all or just no attention from the types of men you’d like to be getting it from?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 10:07 PM
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When everyone else is the problem, YOU’RE the problem
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 04:55 PM
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Like what?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 06:25 AM
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Part of the issue is that women tend to only seek out men who are equal or greater then they are in terms of qualifications. So imagine you’re a female lawyer who makes 200K a year. You’re probably going to seek out men of similar or greater socio-economic standing. This dramatically limits your options leading you to say “Where are all the good men at?”. Accordingly you must now cast out more lines into the ocean to get a catch; dating apps are one of these lines
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 11:49 PM
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First off, I compliment you for the content and tone of your post; this is definitely what your average post on this sub should look like. In terms, of your argument I’d argue that the more appropriate analogy is that your average “renter” has the money to buy, but the landlord isn’t willing to sell because he feels that renting it out is a better long term investment. In plain English: A women who meets a man that she deeply desires is more then happy to stick with him...the problem is that a h…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 11:46 PM
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Crying and nagging as you described it are just two means of doing the same thing: trying to change a man’s behavior The male equivalent would probably be men guilting, nagging, pleading women for sex in the context of a sexless relationship In both cases, there is an attempt to coax something out of the other person that they’re currently not providing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 11:33 PM
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Men are assumed to be predatory by default. That’s why when a male teacher sleeps with a female student the reaction is for people to be horrified, while a female teacher sleeping with a male student gets a reaction of “haha I wish I could have slept with my teacher when I was his age”
/r/MensRights03/01/19 11:11 PM
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You’re exactly right. There’s a huge contrast between the dead bedrooms subreddit and the married redpill subreddit for that reason. Dead bedrooms: Think sex is owed to them Believe in transactional sex Think that you can negotiate desire Married redpill; Think sex is a result of being a genuinely desired man Believe in validational sex Understand that you cannot negotiate desire
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 10:53 PM
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Feminism has amplified and facilitated hypergamy. I’d say that’s a benefit
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/01/19 07:15 PM
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Saying that sex isn’t important is just BS justification for women who don’t want to fuck their husbands anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 07:13 PM
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Evolution isn’t concerned with your happiness...just your reproductive success
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/01/19 06:37 PM
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Getting impregnated by Chad then getting some chump to play step daddy and support you (and/or get government benefits) is the ultimate evolutionary win for a woman.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/01/19 07:03 AM
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Modern day feminism has primarily benefited (in order): Men in the Top 20% Women -Men in the bottom 80% The old way of doing things really prevented the Chads of the world from sleeping around (in addition to keeping women in check), but these days it might as well be an all-you-can-fuck buffet®. Accordingly, if you’re Chad why not pump n’ dump women who are eager to give it up?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/01/19 11:28 PM
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When you get a chance research the “dark triad” of personality traits. Research shows that men who exhibit one of the dark triad personality traits tend to be disproportionately successful with women. The short answer as to why is that theses traits tend to entail a lot of overlap with many “alpha traits” such as confidence, charisma, aggression, investment/preoccupation with ones self, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 04:40 PM
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Three things: You place a disproportionate amount of value on formal education as a proxy for social status, when really it isn’t. Women want “alpha” men (top 20%). Education has almost nothing to do with this Having a lower social status just means that your pool options is lower not that you have no options. Do an evaluation of yourself and figure out where your at. Far to often I see men and women alike who think that they deserve an 8/10 person when they themselves are only a 6
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 04:29 PM
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“The Wall” isn’t really an appropriate analogy for the SMV of men because it implies a dramatic and sudden decrease. The male equivalent would probably be a hill that starts getting steep and harder to climb once they hit middle age (40-45) Men build their SMV slowly over decades and lose it slowly over decades. Women are fast burners. They inherit their SMV almost over night and lose most of it over a decade or so.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 04:24 PM
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The reality: Women don’t see male feminists/nu-makes/neckbeards/hardcore beta males as sexual beings. They might as well be on par with the cute cuddly teddy bear that sits at the foot of the girls bed. Now imagine that teddy bear grows a dick and try’s to sleep with that girl...her reaction is going to be one of disgust and feeling threatened In this case I can almost guarantee that this nu-male “stepped out of line” by being the teddy bear that suddenly grew a big ol’ penis
/r/MensRights02/01/19 03:52 PM
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This question is arguably a non-issue if you as a man have truly internalized TRP and don’t get complacent in your relationship...aka you need to continue dating your wife and avoid the “I can finally relax now that I’m married” attitude. Additionally, “Being alpha” is only work if it doesn’t come naturally to you. With all of that being said, I always tell people that unless you want kids, their is no point to getting married
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 02:17 AM
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This really proves the idea that of you’re not a top percentile man you might as well be invisible
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/01/19 10:44 PM
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Sounds like your knowledge is based on being a PUA not a RP’ed man. If you read The Game by Neil Strauss he basically talks about how PUAs are better at getting women then they are at keeping them...mainly because at heart most PUAs are still bluepill
/r/MarriedRedPill01/01/19 03:36 PM
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You’re still a “nice guy”. You’ve made the mistake of assuming that because you’re kind of a dick to her that you’ve left your nice guy days behind in exchange for being RP’d. In reality, when you read books like “No More Mr. Nice Guy” you’ll find that this sort of lashing out is common among so-called “nice guys”. Go check out r/niceguys and you’ll find nothing but examples of men who seem nice only to totally flip when they don’t get what they want
/r/MarriedRedPill29/12/18 10:14 PM
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This premise has two false assumptions That women will always make the right choice in terms of giving them an evolutionary advantage. Reality: Plenty of women will select men who are deadbeats by today’s standards but nevertheless are alpha in other ways (confidence, charisma, strength etc) That evolution operates at the societal level Reality: Evolution operates primarily at the individual; aka everyone doing what’s in their best interest first. Simple put, people tend not to act for the benef…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 05:03 PM
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Question for you: if 80% of women only reproduce with only the top 20% of men, what do the other 80% of do? Sit back and applaud that society is benefiting? No... Societies in which a significant percentage of the men have no access to women or reproduction are fundamentally unstable and plagued by civil unrest. In fact an overwhelming majority of the worlds least stable nations practice some form of polygamy
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 04:50 PM
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As they say: if you’re not her boyfriend than you’re her girlfriend
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/12/18 04:28 PM
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I can’t help but get a little schadenfreude from this considering that what she expected was her BF sitting at home like a chump while she enjoyed an all-you-can-fuck buffet...annnnd it went in the opposite direction!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/12/18 08:45 PM
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This is an important distinction. While I would definitely argue that women manipulate men much more effectively than the other way around, it’s not as if they’re scheming...it’s more like a subconscious social skill
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/18 02:40 AM
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“Now, here, you see, it takes all the running you can do, to keep in the same place. If you want to get somewhere else, you must run at least twice as fast as that!” This quote does a great job of explaining the realities of evolution which is that: (a) it’s relative and (b) you only stand out by being vastly better then the rest not better in absolute terms
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 02:22 AM
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Sort PPD by most controversial and that will probably give you a good idea...not because the information inside each thread will serve as some sort of guide, but because it will give you such a great contrast between the bluepill and redpill mindsets
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 05:24 AM
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Personal Value Does NOT equal Sexual Market Value. Most people male or female are guilty of this to an extent but the educated working women demographic is particularly bad with making this false equivalency
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/12/18 07:00 PM
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N count is not an issue in and of itself. The issue is that a women with a high N count is likely to already be an Alpha Widow For this reason, a women with a high N count isn’t necessary a no-go, it just means that you as a man better be the sexiest guy she’s ever been with, something that is like to be rare from a sheer probability standpoint if she’s been with 50 dudes
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 02:40 PM
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I see what you did there...haha
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 04:55 PM
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I wish I could agree with you, but a majority of the male population is so heavily investing in blue ideology, that even when they’re thirsty as as hell they’ll still reject it. The matrix analogy is perfect in the sense that most people would rather live in ignorant bliss than be unplugged and forced to completely change how they think about male-female relationships
/r/askMRP18/12/18 12:06 AM
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The difference between “OMG this cute guy at the grocery store just hit on me” and “OMG this total creep at the grocery store just hit on me” often Times is heavily predicated on the man’s relative SMV. However, as another poster noted, women get hit on all the time without reporting the guy for doing it. In this case, she probably gave him plenty of hints that she was uncomfortable, but he likely kept persisting. What gets you in trouble usually isn’t friendly small talk and asking a girl (with…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 11:56 PM
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Buy him “The Rational Male” by Rolo Tomassi Just remember the old saying: “You can bring a horse to water, but you can’t make it drink” I’ve been stressing RP principles for 5 years now with my close friends. 1 is purple pill at best and the other are still firmly blue pill
/r/askMRP17/12/18 11:38 PM
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A Red Pill aware individual who nevertheless chooses to act in a bluepill way or pursue a bluepill lifestyle
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 03:29 PM
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Yes. Exhibiting “dark triad” can help with short-term (key word) reproductive success. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_triad
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 11:10 PM
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Perception is reality; sad fact of life
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 05:47 AM
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No one wants their history to matter when it makes them look bad—simple as that
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 04:32 AM
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So you’re saying there’s no clues that a woman is promiscuous? Like hanging around a lot of men outside her family...other men saying they’ve had sex with her...being overly provocative with her gestures or manor of dress. Of course these things are never a guarantee, but they certainly provide clues. We evolved to use attraction to certain body types as a proxy for fertility, but a women with a great body could be totally infertile You say we can’t be turned off by information, but the presence…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 03:16 AM
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Two perspectives Evolutionary Biology: If the women is promiscuous, it is much more difficult to ensure paternity, which up until DNA testing was always uncertain TRP: A high N count women is more like to an alpha widow which increases the skill required by you as a man to make a positive impression on her while getting nothing extra in exchange for that high N count
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 08:50 PM
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Note that you said nothing about the guys personality. You basically said he’s average looking guy who isn’t royalty... Too many men assume that women think like they do—valuing looks and youth much higher than everything else, when in reality they tend to make personality, charm, charisma, social power, and wealth as characteristics of greater importance. So with that in mind, there’s still the class issue. Why would she date an “average guy”. Well for starters, limiting yourself to just other …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 03:59 PM
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Alpha women are just women who fit the male ideal. Usually some combination of young, attractive, feminine, submissive, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 12:34 AM
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Imagine that a woman has a teddy bear that she loves to hug and snuggle with every night for comfort...now imagine that teddy bear grows a huge dick out of nowhere and tries to fuck her with it. What do you think her reaction will be? “Nice Guys” are like teddy bears that grow dicks. The trick is don’t be that teddy bear in the first place. Also, if you’re not her boyfriend than you’re her girlfriend, simple as that
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/12/18 06:18 PM
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They absolutely want attention and friendship from these guys, but when they take it to the next level and start talking intimacy and sex their response is revulsion
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 02:14 PM
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Don’t hate the player, hate the game It’s just women following the principle of “work smarter not harder”. No different then men spamming a clever one liner to every girl within 50 miles on okcupid instead of reading every profile and writing personal messages
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 12:46 AM
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This dynamic is just one BIG shit test for men. It’s an easy way to get beta males (the bottom 80% of men) to self-select out of the game. Why? Because women don’t want “creepy” beta males to hit on them or think that they have a chance at sex. And guess what? This system works well! Beta nu-males gobble this stuff up and feel nothing but pride while doing it. After all, they’re “enlightened” and “sensitive” to the needs of women, which in their minds should make them totally irresistible....and…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 12:13 AM
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This dynamic is just one BIG shit test for men! It’s an easy way to get beta males (the bottom 80% of men) to self-select out of the game. Why? Because women don’t want “creepy” beta males to hit on them or think that they have a chance at sex. And guess what? This system works well! Beta nu-males gobble this stuff up and feel nothing but pride while doing it. After all, they’re “enlightened” and “sensitive” to the needs of women, which in their minds makes them totally irresistible to women! ..…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 12:07 AM
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The goal of many mothers when it comes to raising their sons is to “build a better beta” The common factor here isn’t necessarily being liberal or feminist but women who feel they’ve been scorned by men generally. Single mothers are particularly bad about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 03:10 PM
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The dynamic is already shifting. The problem is that when basic needs/drives (like sex) aren’t met, civil unrest occurs which leads to revolt and revolutions if the problem gets bad enough. In an environment where sex is truly a big free for all, what we get is men who accumulate multiple wives or at the very least the top 20% of men getting most of the sex. This leaves a large percentage of men as involuntarily celibates, thereby fostering civil unrest. What’s interesting is that a majority of …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 10:33 PM
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Most evolutionary psychologists will say that humans are socially monogamous, but sexually polygamous. So yes, monogamy as defined by most western cultures is a bit unnatural. However, monogamy is great for social stability, hence the reason it tends to be promoted by governments and organized religions
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 10:01 PM
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Compare the average experience of a man on tinder vs the average experience for a women. Assume they’re both 6/10 attractiveness Man: a few matches per week Woman: dozens of matches per week
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 09:54 PM
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If anything the sexual liberation of women has just given them the option to be more picky because they have more options and less consequences for deviant behavior It’s simple supply and demand. Just ask any attractive women about her experience with tinder. At any given time she probably has hundreds of men interested in meeting (having sex) her. Conversely, your average man might have a few matches each week meaning he’s more inclined to take what he can get
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 09:45 PM
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You’re not wrong, but your assumption seems to be that we’ve evolved to the point of differentiation between sex for fun and sex for procreation, when we really haven’t. We have a much better control on it, but accidental pregnancies are still a huge percentage of all babies born. In fact women are most likely to engage in risky sexual behaviors when they’re most fertile (ovulation) In regards to the second part, most theories fit the dynamic of maximizing the genetic fitness as well as provisio…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 09:38 PM
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Because women are the gatekeepers to sex not men, which is just another way of saying that women have a greater evolutionary incentive to be selective about who they sleep with. Reason being that 10,000 years ago, if a women got pregnant she was stuck with the burden of raising a child—the man on the other hand could just bail. Evolutionary, the end result is: Men: quantity over quality Women: quality over quantity
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 08:57 PM
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Birth control has been around for roughly 50 years. In the timescale of humanity it might as well have just been invented 5 min ago. I’m sure you’ve heard people say that from an evolutionary standpoint we’re still 10,000 years in the past. Same issue here. Our evolutionary tendencies haven’t caught up to the realities of the modern world and they won’t for 1000’s of years
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 08:56 PM
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Because women are the gatekeepers to sex not men, which is just another way of saying that women have a greater evolutionary incentive to be selective about who they sleep with. Reason being that 10,000 years ago, if a women got pregnant she was stuck with the burden of raising a child—the man on the other hand could just bail. Evolutionary, the end result is: Men: quantity over quality Women: quality over quantity
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 08:49 PM
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Getting laid as a women isn’t difficult, getting laid as a man is. Accordingly: A key that can open any lock is a master key A lock that can be opened by any key is a bad lock
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 08:36 PM
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A lack of mental resiliency is the biggest issue. Just consider the prevalence of victim culture, being offended by everything, helicopter parents, “everyone gets a trophy”, etc. social media just amplifies everything
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 12:25 AM
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This is sadly true. First one to file the rape accusation wins
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 04:44 PM
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Other than advising that she change her attitude/outlook toward the whole situation, 90% of the advise is garbage that’s on per with people telling lonely sexless men to just “be yourself”. Unfortunately, most millennial women are told that that they can have it all. However, the reality is that at some point you have to decide what your priorities in life are and make the appropriate sacrifices. Trying to straddle the line between two totally different lifestyles will lead to you half-assing bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 11:28 PM
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What you’re getting at is establishing common values and life goals early in the relationship, particularly before infatuation style love can kick in. If you’re serious about having a great long term relationship, I would argue that is a great methodology for achieving that. However, directly asking these questions is a quick way to scare people away
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 01:38 AM
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5/10 means your average looking, not ugly. I understand it might be disheartening to hear that, but there’s a one easy way to boost yourself up....Work toward having the best possible body. We live in a world where the average woman is quite overweight, so being slim and toned is an easy way to stand out and something that is well within your control. For the record, I’m talking the kind of body that says “I squat 150 lbs and run three miles a day”, not just “i go to the gym occasionally”. Even …
/r/RedPillWomen28/11/18 06:06 AM
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Our society is one on which a large portion of the population is on welfare of some kind which really skews things Who’s more likely to have power and money in our society, a 20 year old guy or a 40 year old guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/18 03:36 PM
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TRP basically acknowledges and accepts 2nd wave feminism, progressivism, and gynocentrism as being the law of the land and attempts to work with its rules instead of trying to change them. I’d also argue that it attempts to sympathize and understand women by acknowledging that their actions are rooted in evolutionary biology So why do women tend to hate the TRP on average? Because female sexual strategy is rooted in men not understanding this dynamic. Understanding and adapting to it puts the po…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 09:33 PM
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You’re right in a way. Evolutionary biology/psychology would say that a 20 year old women would likely prefer a 35 year old man while a 50 year old man would prefer a woman who’s incredibly young. However, I suspect that society’s norms and subsequent shaming prevent this from occurring
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 08:47 PM
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The question I like to ask is what makes sense from an evolutionary biology/psychology standpoint?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 08:16 PM
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Oktrends (the data blog arm of the dating site okcupid) found that women on average prefer men who are about 4 years older then they are. Men on the other hand preferred women in their 20’s regardless of how old they are
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 07:14 PM
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Being a white knight almost never pays off these days. Just don’t do it. Plus I guarantee an given woman you help probably wouldn’t do the same for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 08:40 PM
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Scientifically: I read about a study which found the most attractive height to be 6’ 2” with attractiveness decreasing equally with increased or decreased height from that baseline Practically: of course they do. Being tall is associated with masculinity, which explains why most women prefer tall men yet don’t want to be 6 ft tall themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 08:34 PM
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For most men sex is a numbers game. Accordingly men will routinely shoot below their SMV. Plus, as some others have pointed out, women tend to be a bit more enthusiastic when they’re having sex with a man who’s out of their league
/r/askTRP24/11/18 02:56 AM
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Thoughts: -It’s more prevalent among women statistically then men despite it often being perceived to be the opposite -Am economist might say that sex is a commodity and the greater it’s availability/ease to obtain the lessor its value. Now contrast this with the saying that “women are the gatekeepers of sex and men are the gatekeepers of commitment”. The implication is that things like sex workers and general promiscuity among women decrease the value of sex for the entire female collective (de…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 09:18 PM
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Take advantage of the system and the current political climate. File a formal complaint
/r/MensRights23/11/18 09:04 PM
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Regardless of whether you’re a man or a women, when you enter into a relationship you’re basically placing a bet that your partner is the best option to optimize your reproductive success (from an evolutionary standpoint). Sometimes you bet wrong and marry a deadbeat. Other times, you bet correctly and end up with a successful and sexy multi-millionaire. Regardless the choice, is a combination of your best judgment and the information you have at your disposal. Sometimes one or both of those is …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 08:56 PM
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Lol I don’t think anyone is trying argue that 75 joe Biden is sexier than 40 year old joe Biden. For perspective on what I’m getting at see the link below: https://therationalmale.com/2012/06/04/final-exam-navigating-the-smp/
/r/RedPillWomen13/11/18 10:48 PM
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Exactly right. I’m not trying to rain on anyone’s parade of self love or say that your life is over after 30, but I do want to prevent the perpetuation of bad information as a result of cognitive dissidence.
/r/RedPillWomen12/11/18 07:49 PM
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That’s great and all, but what you said is that your mom looks younger then her age, not that she looked better at 50 than she did at 30
/r/RedPillWomen12/11/18 05:56 PM
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What you’re saying is that it took you 10 years to learn to be feminine and pretty. So while one aspect of your SMV declined another increased. I’m happy for you in a sense, but this post really just seems like you’re trying to convince yourself through a heap of anecdotal evidence that you didn’t actually waste time or miss out (you kinda did). The reality is that a women is undoubtedly in her sexual prime around the age of 20, and sees a sharp decline there after to the point where a women 40+…
/r/RedPillWomen12/11/18 03:43 PM
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Regarding female attractiveness: Women age like cars, men age like houses. To support this consider that: “In the study, men’s desirability peaks at age 50. But women’s desirability starts high at age 18 and falls throughout their lifespan” Source: https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2018/08/online-dating-out-of-your-league/567083/ Longer Answer: Age 30 is relatively arbitrary in the same way that age 18 = adult, but serves as a general guideline for when a woman is no longer in her prim…
/r/RedPillWomen04/11/18 01:10 AM
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What’s the quality of sex when you do have it? I ask because there’s the simple truth that sex with a long term partner can get quite stale after years of doing it. (Imagine eating the same thing for dinner every night for 20 years). Have you ever tried dressing up in something raunchy perhaps or exploring a new kink?
/r/RedPillWomen29/09/18 01:29 PM
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True alpha females as defined by TRP are probably just as rare as alpha males. Some reading to explain: https://therationalmale.com/tag/alpha-female/
/r/RedPillWomen28/09/18 05:44 PM
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Try being virgin until you marry one of these highly desirable men! How many woman can: Secure the commitment of a high status alpha male Remain a virgin until that point We’re talking fractions of a percent of the population meeting that criteria
/r/RedPillWomen28/09/18 05:41 PM
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Last phrase: When you have less free time you really prioritize how you spend it. Most men would rather have sex than talk. Talking is beneficial, but has less value to most men when compared to sex. Other question is whether or not he feels engaged in the conversations that you have. For example, in my own relationship, my wife isn’t interested in nor have the knowledge of the things I like to discuss. Accordingly, I don’t get as much out of it as she does. Simply put, make sure you’re talking …
/r/RedPillWomen21/09/18 07:40 PM
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Cost benefit Analysis: -Sex might take 20 min, but be the highlight of his day/week -Talking can go long without a clear benefit to both parties Especially when you have few free hours during your day, your mentality toward how you spend your time really starts to adopt this sort of mindset
/r/RedPillWomen21/09/18 05:28 PM
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Historically daughters are evolutionarily a low risk in the sense that they’re almost guaranteed to reproduce regardless of how exceptional or unexceptional they are. Accordingly it would make to capitalize on traits that would lead to sexy sons considering that male reproductive success tended to be feast or famine, especially in the days before the relational socialism that we call monogamy.
/r/TheRedPill09/09/18 04:48 AM
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Reproductive Potential: -Every child a woman has might be 1/20th or less of her reproductive potential -Every child a man has might be 1/10,000th of his reproductive potential Additionally, a child is much more taxing on a woman (9 months of pregnancy, breastfeeding, caring for the child) than on a man. The sum of all this is that when it comes to reproductive strategy in terms of spreading your genes: -Women: quality over quantity -Men: quantity over quality Note that the reproductive strategie…
/r/RedPillWomen04/08/18 02:39 AM
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Understood. Nevertheless, I think it’s perverse when removing part of someone’s genitals is normalized at all in a society. Plus, think of how hypocritical it is when we criticize cultures who practice FGM while simultaneously getting our sons circumcised
/r/TheRedPill01/08/18 10:23 PM
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Remove parts of Male Genitals: “Circumcision” Remove parts of Female Genitals: Female Genital Mutilation! The fact that men are getting fucked on this is baked right into the wording. Regardless of whether you like the end result or not, the reality that this is being performed on unconsenting infants is reprehensible. To anyone who is on the fence about this or is pro-circumcision, go find a video of one being performed; I guarantee it’ll change your mind
/r/TheRedPill01/08/18 02:04 PM
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Societies with “Traditional Values” (I.e. bluepill) basically preach that if you study and get a good job you’ll be rewarded with happiness, a family (women), etc. Why? because for the most part this worked in decades past; hell even in western societies this mentality used to be valid. However, western society has changed radically and eastern cultures are starting to follow in our wake. Unfortunately for American born Asians, their parents are still operating with that “traditional values” min…
/r/TheRedPill25/07/18 05:45 AM
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Do they know that they shouldn’t get a GF out of it though? You give men a bit too much credit by assuming that they’ve somehow become a bit redpill aware when in reality most aren’t. With nearly 60 years of 2nd wave feminism under our belts, most men have been convinced that a women’s sexuality should be unrestricted and anything less amounts to oppression of women and a belief in antiquated values. Simply put, your average man in western society doesn’t see virginity or being chaste as a prere…
/r/RedPillWomen14/07/18 01:26 PM
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TLDR: Men like women who will put out from the start because that’s the norm in western culture Prior to the rise of 2nd wave feminism and the subsequent sexual liberation that women experienced, sex from a women was was only available for men who proved that they were commitment, usually through marriage. However, sex in the modern day has become a commodity that cheap and plentiful thanks to looser values and hook up culture. Men in the top 20% are getting it whenever they want, while men who …
/r/RedPillWomen14/07/18 03:11 AM
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I’ll agree that religious values often having a lot of practical value to them. I think most people throughout history realized that promiscuity has negative effects on ones life, but didn’t really breakdown the reasoning like we are here. The problem with most religious doctrines is that they fail to explain their reasoning so people just think the rules are arbitrary. When questioning these rules the reply back is usually “because God/bible/I said so”.
/r/RedPillWomen13/06/18 02:02 AM
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First off, this topic gets attention by most people for the wrong reasons. From a pure RP theory standpoint, men valuing a low N count in a woman isn’t about being “sexual pure”...it’s a matter of more partners leading to a greater chance of the woman being an ‘Alpha Widow’ otherwise known as a woman who is so enthralled by a past lover who is Alpha, sexually exciting, or even emotionally manipulative, that all of her future partners seem disappointing in comparison; leading to unfulfilling futu…
/r/RedPillWomen12/06/18 11:35 PM
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These are the sorts of low quality posts that are dragging this sub down
/r/TheRedPill24/04/18 04:25 AM
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Well in that case, being as sex positive as you are, I think you’re well justified in turning this one down. I love kink just as much as anyone, but risking your well being for a one time sexual thrill is short sighted thinking
/r/RedPillWomen31/03/18 03:23 AM
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What doesn’t change across cultures or racial groups is the preference for a .7 bust to waist to hip ratio aka the hourglass figure even if body fat percentages differ. Case in point, Kim Kardashian and Gigi Hadid have vastly different body fat percentages but both have well established hourglass figures that your average man would find attractive. Ultimately men have evolved to look for signs of health and fertility by simple looking at woman. As you might expect evolutionary biologists have fo…
/r/RedPillWomen31/03/18 03:18 AM
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Express your concerns about this impact your career if it were to get out. However, to avoid bursting his bubble completely I’d say counter his request by asking if he has any other kinks he would like to explore or share your own.
/r/RedPillWomen31/03/18 03:00 AM
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This routine: https://stronglifts.com/5x5/ Also, you don’t have to worry about looking bulky. Women have 1/12 the testosterone levels men have and most men struggle to put on muscle
/r/RedPillWomen31/03/18 02:57 AM
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TLDR: Men are as picky about woman as their own sexual market value allows them to be The article says that for wealthy men it’s “essential”. In other words being thin and attractive is minimum criteria for consideration. It not saying that poorer men prefer thick woman, just that being thin and super attractive is less important to them overall. In my opinion, if you read between the lines part of this is just the fact that most people deep down have some awareness of their sexual market value.…
/r/RedPillWomen31/03/18 02:46 AM
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Very few men would prefer a larger woman. The difference is that men of wealth and status can afford to be more picky
/r/RedPillWomen30/03/18 07:29 AM
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That’s the problem with a marriage...you’ll almost never get “FUCK YES” sex once the honeymoon period is over. Accordingly, all sex effectively becomes negotiated sex where’s a lot of “we’ll I’d probably be more inclined to have sex with you if you did XYZ”. What’s interesting though is what happens when you as the man start to pull back a bit and she’ll very quickly become anxious about you not trying for sex anymore
/r/TheRedPill09/03/18 01:07 AM
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Single or sexless?—An important distinction.
/r/TheRedPill09/03/18 12:03 AM
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Societal expectations: “you need to find yourself a good woman and settle down” “real mature men commit” Core beliefs encouraging it, often religious A desire to start a family Being unaware of their potential to play the field, thereby settling for the first safe bet that comes along Growing weary of playing the field. ie being a perpetual George Clooney loses its luster He’s not high quality at all and is simply a beta male with some early game OR better yet a contextual alpha: men who appear …
/r/RedPillWomen16/02/18 01:31 AM
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The issue these days is that there’s very little incentive for a man to get married. Our family courts have turned the prospect of marriage into one big legal liability for men especially. You get to sleep with one woman for the rest of your life and if she decides to leave you on a whim you lose everything. For some perspective, check out the original TRP sub...they tell you to avoid marriage like the plague.
/r/RedPillWomen03/01/18 04:11 PM
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Ancient Chinese Proverb: "A key that can open any lock is a master key, but a lock that can be opened by any key is a poor choice for a lock" Fair? No, but that's how it is sometimes
/r/RedPillWomen17/04/17 05:17 PM
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Having a RP mindset is an advantage to both your daughters and your sons because you can convey to them how the world actually works instead of how it should work...unfortunately teens and young adults get a lot of bad information out there about the male/female dynamic. Case in point: To boys: "Just be yourself" "women want a nice guy" To girls: "he should love you in spite of your flaws" "explore your sexuality" "your number doesn't matter" If fully intend to tell my kids how things actually w…
/r/TheRedPill16/04/17 05:30 AM
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Alcohol: 120 calories on average per serving. That's what makes a lot of college girls fat...and what goes great with alcohol/drunkeness? High calorie shitty food. Combine that with the fact that women have little incentive to stay in shape (a chubby 6 can get plenty of dick if she wants) and you have a recipe for fatness
/r/TheRedPill09/04/17 07:07 AM
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More of my own theory and I may very well be wrong. What I do know is that buying power has decreased since the 50s/60s (i.e. It takes more years of work to afford a home, than it used to)
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 06:46 PM
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https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/may/18/womens-rights-happiness-wellbeing-gender-gap
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 06:42 PM
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When women entered the labor market they effectively increased the supply substantially, thereby driving down the cost of labor. I'd argue this is a big part of why millennials have flat wages and less buying power when compared to their boomer parents/grandparents did. On top of that, when you do have kids you're paying someone else to take care of them, so the dual income phenomenon isn't really as great when everything is said and done. The traditional family unit allows for greater efficienc…
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 07:49 AM
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On top of all that the place is practically a cult...one which believes not jerking it will give you super powers...hyperbole obviously, but I've seen some ridiculous claims made about the benefits of not strokin'' it.
/r/TheRedPill21/02/17 11:08 PM
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The problem with immigrant parents is that for them a man needing to be a good provider and a woman needing to be chaste is a given. In their traditional culture a woman who sluts it up ostracizes her self almost instant, so to them it's absolutely bewildering as to why their daughters would do such a thing. Conversely, the men who grow up in Asian immigrant households often end up being hopeless betas because their parents and society alike both heavily encourage blue pill behavior
/r/TheRedPill14/02/17 11:20 PM
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Might just be a simple case of him being a contextual alpha (at work, among friends, etc) but not a complete alpha when it comes to women...even the toughest of men often view women from the perspective of a white knight who should pedestalize and bow down to their female love interests because that's what "real men" do
/r/RedPillWomen10/02/17 07:56 PM
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Women fundamentally operate on social validation and that group-think...there's a reason that women in leadership positions are few and far between
/r/TheRedPill27/01/17 11:43 PM
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If you broke up with every girl who had this kind of dirty laundry you'd never be with anyone. If anything this stuff is great because it shatters any semblance of blue pill left in you
/r/TheRedPill27/01/17 11:41 PM
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I snooped hardcore once (read her journal) and it was bittersweet to say the least Negative side: she had a list of every guy she had ever fucked around with to include what they did together (why the fuck would a girl keep a list of that)...fucking terrible to read when you love a girl Positive side: She pages upon pages gushing about me saying she was in love, infatuated, best sex, etc. I was glad to see I was number one in her book but things like a fuck list really shatter your perception of…
/r/TheRedPill27/01/17 11:39 PM
4

Fast speaking is a sign of nervousness or fear, things that obviously do not drive attraction. Plus you're likely to say something incorrect if you ramble
/r/TheRedPill26/01/17 11:55 PM
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That and perhaps getting involved in a group outside the home. In my exercise experience women are more inclined toward deriving gratification from social interaction as opposed to doing hobbies by ones self
/r/RedPillWomen26/01/17 11:48 PM
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Factor in the welfare state phenomenon and the encouragement of "Capt save a hoe" dynamics and why wouldn't a woman go after top 20% guys
/r/TheRedPill25/01/17 11:23 PM
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In addition to the jealousy factor, Michelle Obama fits the comfortable bluepill narrative that society generally enjoys; that a woman's value is based on things like education, career success, etc. Melania Trump represents the harsh reality that a woman's value is based on beauty first and foremost.
/r/TheRedPill20/01/17 11:58 PM
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Make fun of her for it. "Don't get too crazy over there Jenna Jameson" and stuff like that. Control the amount of humor/nastiness to get the desired result
/r/RedPillWomen16/01/17 10:54 PM
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Can confirm. My HS cross-country times put me at the bottom 1/3 of the men's bracket but would have made me the winner of the woman's by about 3 min
/r/TheRedPill06/01/17 11:14 PM
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Hate to go /relationships on you, but this guy sounds like a loser with few redeemable qualities. This guy may have been a captain at one point but it sounds like those days are long gone
/r/RedPillWomen30/12/16 10:06 PM
1

The less happy factor comes in at old age not middle age.
/r/TheRedPill05/12/16 12:09 AM
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"Quality of life will crash" Ehhhh not exactly. Having kids is like investing your money. It might be a bummer to put $5000 in an IRA instead of using it to buy a motorcycle but it pays off big time 40 years down the road. Similarly, studies find that children basically put a damper on your life earlier but that later in life people with children are happier than those without
/r/TheRedPill02/12/16 09:46 PM
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6's are some of the pickiest head strong bitches you'll ever meet. Because they strike that fine line of being above average but not seeming unapproachably so they get a TON of attention! So many guys refuse to even talk to the girls who are absolutely gorgeous because they're worried they'll strike out
/r/TheRedPill02/12/16 09:41 PM
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Personal story: a female colleague of mine mentioned that women are catty and backstabbing toward each other in the work place. I chimed in saying that I had read a study (co-authored by a man and a woman no less) which found that 100% female groups are less effective than than groups of 100% men. BAM! reported to HR by another woman who overheard. She had a rep as a person who cries misogyny, so nothing happened but still... Lesson learned: don't say anything remotely critical of women in the w…
/r/TheRedPill02/12/16 09:32 PM
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Realistically I'm a firm believer that the man needs to have an SMV that's a point or two higher than the woman for the relationship to last. This instils natural dread game and keeps the woman in a state of insecurity which id argue is good in small amounts I don't know about the second half of your post but as a married couple she's the man should naturally achieve a greater SMV (assuming he doesn't turn beta) if only because his wife's naturally goes down as she ages
/r/TheRedPill02/12/16 09:21 PM
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If some jobless out of shape beta loser was saying he'd only date 23 year old HB8s I'd call him delusional too
/r/TheRedPill02/12/16 09:00 PM
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A woman can easily fuck a guy that's an 8 or 9 even when she's a 6 simply because sex is a numbers game for men. A few 8/9 fucks and before you know it that's the standard. Combine that with women conflating their personal value with their sexual market value and you have a recipe for delusion and entitlement
/r/TheRedPill02/12/16 08:58 PM
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Gavin McInnes nailed this topic perfectly and hilariously: https://youtu.be/xeAerBwVL14
/r/TheRedPill30/11/16 11:49 PM
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This all sounds like learned helplessness to me and it's self defeating. This sub is filled with men who went from beta to alpha after spending years diligently improving themselves. The potential is there and it is well within ones reach to change. The reason most people don't change whether it be from beta to alpha or poor to rich isn't because the lack the right tools, knowledge, or opportunities...it's often their own mentality toward the problem at hand. I will admit that our environment an…
/r/TheRedPill29/11/16 11:13 PM
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There are two concerning outcomes at play when it comes to relational dynamics: Reducing the quality of the gene pool Destabilizing society The problem we're heading for is more of later. Female independence, the abundance of beta cucks, and government welfare programs essentially mean that women can optimize their hypergamous nature by sleeping/reproducing with Chad and not having to worry about the negetive outcomes that would have prevented reckless mate selection 100 years ago. Accordingly, …
/r/TheRedPill28/11/16 11:26 PM
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Historically older men did marry younger women, harems were considered acceptable, and a women over the age of 30 was pretty much untouchable. However while this dynamic is good for the evolution of the species, it's bad for preventing civil unrest (men without access to women and reproduction are likely to be unruly or at best less productive)
/r/TheRedPill21/11/16 10:31 PM
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When women refer to male privilege they're not talking about the overweight and balding guy who's social awkward and makes 30K per year...they're thinking of the guy with the looks of Brad Pitt and the power/wealth of Donald Trump It gets said a lot but if you're not in the top 20% of all men you might as well be invisible
/r/TheRedPill24/10/16 10:53 PM
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It seems like researched, informative, and objective redpill posts are really lacking these days. Your post is a fantastic contribution to the community
/r/TheRedPill20/10/16 11:16 PM
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The government is certainly skewing things but it's undeniable that social constraints were placed upon women's sexuality in the past to the point that it limited hypergamy. Today is hypergamy run amok
/r/TheRedPill02/09/16 06:49 PM
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Women will ultimately submit to the most dominant men and quickly forget the betas they left behind. We see this play out in day to day relationships as well as in the context of warring states. It's what Rollo refers to as the "warbride principle". There's a reason women are three times more likely to convert to Islam than men...think about that for a minute...more likely to convert to a religion that actively limits women's freedoms and forces them to submit...
/r/TheRedPill02/09/16 02:53 AM
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I wouldn't say it's necessarily poor women so as it is women from more traditional cultures.
/r/TheRedPill02/09/16 02:48 AM
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The problem is that the male/female dynamic is very much a free market. While you might gross your arms, hold firm, and say that you'll only accept a quality woman, there will always be a guy willing to undercut you. Betas and omegas are always chopping at the bit to wife up some 200 pound used up woman
/r/TheRedPill02/09/16 02:45 AM
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TLDR: our culture expects women to be shitty and irritable on their period so they are as part of a culturally induced self fulfilling prophecy From a slate article titled "Is PMS all in our heads?": "In all the controversy over the new DSM-5, it was inevitable that a long-standing fight over premenstrual syndrome would be revived. Eighty-five percent of women claim to have suffered from this disorder, but repeated research shows there's actually no relationship between daily moods and shifting …
/r/TheRedPill21/08/16 07:19 PM
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Hardcore disagree with Neckbeard Rule #1: this sounds a lot like fat acceptance rationale to me. If you're low SMV it's because you have no discernible value to women at that time (with the exception of padding a woman's ego with praise and attention) and you need to need to accept that. None of this "your value is just unrecognized". If you're low SMV it's because you have little to no value and need to build it Tough love is what's needed here not putting the blame back on women for not recogn…
/r/TheRedPill19/08/16 11:09 PM
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MFA has some good stuff, but you have to approach it with some common sense. If you follow it to a T you'll end up looking something between metrosexual and like you're about to attend a gay yacht orgy...perhaps the best thing about MFA is that they teach you how clothes should fit, which is pretty universal
/r/TheRedPill19/08/16 10:15 PM
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