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Blaming prevents taking responsibility. Let's just lay this out. About 75% of Trumps voters don't like him. But when faced with a choice between him and the pack of assholes you seem to like... easy choice. I think soon we will be enforcing this with other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:18 AM
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The description here is scary on point. The understanding of why thus stuff happens is just way off. There are just a lot of men who can't be a casual guy. The manipulation is just a power rebalancing... like a sexual Robin Hood. The only negative is that sometimes really good women get caught up. That's why if you are quality yourself... just make him wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:11 AM
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A lot of promiscuous women try to change and settle down. I mean if they didn't a lot of male issues would vanish overnight.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:07 AM
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I'm tangentially involved in some highly religious communities... and for the most part these husband's are way more engaged than normal. Of course 5 kids isn't uncommon.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:01 AM
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It's risk aversion vs bullshit tolerance.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 05:59 AM
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The my body my choice argument died when women were forcing men to get experimental vaccines. I mean look, go ahead and 4B or whatever. Nobody needs your fascist bullshit. Maybe you can 4B yourself all the way to Iran or someplace wonderful like China. I think what women don't get is that even ugly losers can get a female ugly loser from another country that will be happy as hell to be in a good country. An ugly loser woman cannot do the same without compromises they don't seem willing to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 05:53 AM
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If you spend time overseas it seems like every nationality has these groups and they kind of hate each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 02:56 PM
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We communicate differently than women, and we really need our own space to do this. You have to understand how powerful this idea is and how damaging it is to not have it. My city used to have a gay neighborhood with lots of gay bars. The women started showing up in big numbers, then straight men. Now my gay friends feel like their community is not as connected. I suspect half of them voted for Trump this time around.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 02:49 PM
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Yeah, I've noticed that. The problem men face with power is that it seems to come with responsibility. Women who gain power spend an inordinate amount of time dodging responsibility. They tend to care more about the consequences, while men tend to be totally cool with firing 10,000 people and ruining thier lives... at least on the surface. So these guys who are always in control get to a point where they need a release... and having a woman dominate them... sometimes in a mommy style is a very a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 02:40 PM
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Stereotyping is a natural human thought process. When I was a kid they taught us to overcome it. Now they teach kids to embrace it and just target certain groups, for example men. But I have a different theory on why men send dic pics, and feminism plays no real part in it. I think it's some kind of shame or dominance mechanism. I say that because these weirdos exist even among nudists. In those places they will corner a woman and masterbate in front of her. This shit needs more study.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 02:31 PM
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This response gives me the sense you don't really understand how government works.... or people for that matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 02:23 PM
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I read this as Feminists are to blame. Plenty of men in that category.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 02:13 PM
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You choose them every day. What you are experiencing is simply an easy choice. That is the best way to have a relationship... with someone who makes choosing to love them feel natural.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 02:11 PM
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If you think there is a significant group of voters who just want to "put women in thier place", then you are just not in touch with reality. I mean most men just look at the current party platform, the rhetoric coming from these folks, and it's clear they hate men... in particular white men. What makes me wonder is how people can vote for a party that says racist stuff, pushes racist policy, and openly hates men? And the other side does what? Sees 4D ultrasounds that look like a baby and think.…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 07:07 AM
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Hmmm.... I feel like you have a piece of the truth. I don't think love is about beauty. I think love is about choice. When you love something or someone you place it at the center of your life and you do it with intention.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 06:48 AM
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You don't need a PI. Most cases a cellphone screenshot will resolve it. Fact is that today cheating leaves an enormous digital footprint.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 11:18 PM
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Honestly... I just can't believe even 1 person in the UK votes Labor. I find a group of people that not just tolerates but encourages rape and violence against underage girls to be disgusting. Nothing personal... it's just nothing in the US even compares except the sexual violence by human traffickers who target those entering the US illegally... which we are trying desperately to stop. I mean Americans take guns and wander the desert looking for these groups and then hold them while border patr…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 11:15 PM
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Uh... you folks literally vote in favor of whole gangs that abuse the most vulnerable young women in society and then try to imprison anyone who complains about it. So keep talking. What is the value of a Two Tier Kier supporters opinion? It's by nature hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 11:33 PM
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Think about it. If your first reflex is to demonize people who don't immediately support your ideas.... what does that say about the group as a whole and it's goals?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 10:52 PM
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Sometimes politics puts you into a catch 22. If Democrats reach out to men...white men in particular.. it turns off the core groups that donate and vote for them. That's why it sucks to have racists and sexists as the center of your coalition.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 10:50 PM
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It reduces penile sensitivity. This issue increases as a man ages too. I do agree with your general point though. Having read just the categories and how they break down and what they represent... I think the overall point of this thread is correct. OECD only cares about women. I think most active bureaucracies are the same way... they don't give a shit about men. That's just a fact of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 08:32 PM
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Uh... The folks going by Ze and Zir would greatly disagree with you here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 08:29 PM
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The pure idiocy of using a quote criticizing people who oppressed others using the government to defend women doing the exact same thing is just mind blowing. Yes, my whole point was that assholes need to give up government enforced privileges because if people where equal most of the problems would go away.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 10:17 PM
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Because a person’s career, educational background, and social standing are all important aspects of their life and who they are. These things have NOTHING to do with core compatibility. I mean we don't care about a woman's accomplishments to a greater degree. What use is a highly accomplished woman who is a quarrelsome asshole? A woman with zero accomplishments can offer just as much compatibility as one with lots... and is actually less likely to be an asshole because accomplishing things usual…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 07:31 PM
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Being boring can be toxic, especially if someone gets more boring over time. If you married someone who had a vest for life and loved to travel and experience new things and meet people and they turned into a total homebody over time that can be exceptionally hard to deal with. Incompatibility can be developed over time, because people do change. I know you feel that way, but it's only toxic when they are trying to keep you from seeing friends or doing things you believe are fun. I just can't se…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 06:25 PM
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Because the Black Pill refuses to acknowledge that personality, social skills, or anything but Looks, Money, or Status play a role. Red Pillers never liked game deniers, because they always attribute changes in success to luck, or just refuse to believe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 05:57 PM
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What you’re describing is fear that a woman will just leave for no reason at all. There is always a reason. If you look at studies, something like 70% of relationship issues are not fixable. Most men come to terms with this and accept it. Some women also learn to live with less than their ideal. An ever increasing group of women do not believe they should ever compromise on what they want. What I don't know is how many times these situations happen because a husband isn't meeting direct needs vs…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 05:47 PM
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You have to define "mistreatment" because if you look at almost all high profile cases like this... it's much more common that the husband is the one putting up with abuse and toxicity. I think Eat Pray Love is kind of the perfect example of this phenomenon. How was that guy abusive or toxic? Is it abusive to simply not be rich enough? Is it toxic to not have six pack abs or be 6'2". I mean let's cut the crap.... not meeting ridiculous expectations isn't the husband's fault. This IS hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 05:38 PM
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It’s not that women are less committed - women have limit to their patience, and commitment doesn’t mean to stay with a partner who ignores idea your needs. Of course, some women are fickle, but when we’re talking about years and decades of relationship ending with a woman walking away, I don’t think she wasn’t committed. There are different types of commitment. I see people sitting in a job they hate for decades because the pay is good, it's secure, and they don't need to put in much effort. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 05:34 PM
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It means whatever she want's it to mean. That is the problem with these kinds of discussions.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 05:26 PM
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Obviously whether she is good or not doesn't matter, it's still the man's job to keep her happy. That's the way women see it, and that's the way society sees it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 05:25 PM
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A lot of men get angry when women leave toxic husbands because they believe that women don’t deserve “good” men. Actually, nobody believes this and the fact that you believe this makes you sound insane. What men complain about is women leaving non-toxic men. The guys who are just boring. The best selling author who wrote Eat Love Pray left her boring husband for some exciting new guy while on a trip to "find herself". Now she is leaving that exciting new guy for another one... If you can't ackno…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 05:24 PM
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The fact that you can't articulate the difference here makes me feel like you still don't get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 01:41 AM
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LOL... that's the same guy. If your guy is so afraid of kids he wants butt sex, don't have kids with that guy... better yet... don't have butt sex with him either. Here is the thing... when you have power over a decision then you MUST be the person who is responsible for it. So, if you have the power of choosing who to have children with, you shouldn't bitch about the consequences or seek to make other people pay the bill. At the same time, if you are a guy and don't want kids... maybe you shoul…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 01:05 AM
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Hey, teach your son to do chores and he will grow up and do chores as an adult. My dad was useless at cleaning. My mom decided to break the cycle and taught me to clean. She also failed to teach my sister. I'm successful and my sister is a useless waste of space who lives in filth. But, for the record, doing daily household chores with your husband isn't going to give him that feeling. Do a project, listen to him, take directions, and accomplish it together. Do this and he will love you more.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 12:56 AM
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I think when men say they want a submissive woman they mean they want an agreeable kind woman who is cares about them and is eager to please I don't even think you need to be eager to please, just agreeable. The big thing here that I think most women don't understand is that what men really love is when you help him tackle tasks and achieve goals. Even if it's just going outside and building something together.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 05:52 PM
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I understand that, in my own marriage that is my husband. He was a SAHH and then a SAHD. But, he completely supported himself before we met, and is capable of fully supporting our family if we ever reached a point where I was no longer able to. Awesome! I see what you are saying now. Totally agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 05:24 PM
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It's the cult of victimhood. If you live in the west if you don't have a choice, a job isn't going to help you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 05:20 PM
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so that I can leave any situation that doesn’t suit my needs The easiest way to avoid toxic situations is to not date toxic people. That said, mistakes do happen, and a career is helpful to a degree in getting out of these situations but somewhere around 90% of the women I've known in abusive toxic relationships had full time jobs. The part I was mostly talking about is the above quote. Look, there is always someone willing to take your abuse... if you found your happy victim then more power to …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 05:17 PM
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I would agree that at minimum you are incredibly insecure and abuse is a high risk factor. However, that isn't what we are discussing. We are talking about the reasons you build a career. People who do this for themselves vs people who do this with the motivation of helping others.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 05:11 PM
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Yeah... I don't know any feminists who are willing to support a partner. I actually think if you are a woman who is supporting a partner of any type... you probably won't be a feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 04:55 PM
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so that I can leave any situation that doesn’t suit my needs or one that is potentially toxic. Men were taught to do these things so that they could support a family and take care of others. I suspect the goal most parents have when raising daughters is the same. To just focus on yourself and make money so that you don't have to fully commit to a relationship is.... well... selfish is probably the most accurate word. My recommendation is nobody should ever get involved with you beyond the surfac…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 04:54 PM
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It's best to have one parent whose primary job is childrearing if you have kids under 4 according to studies. Personally, I would say under 8 is better, and under 18 if you can afford it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 04:49 PM
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I think what you are talking about is that men are much more likely to occupy both ends of an extreme. This applies to a lot of traits. So, men will be more of the best, and also more of the worst, whereas more women are likely to be in the middle of a distribution. It is proposed that this is because men lack the lower part of the X Chromosome, so there is no backup for when a gene fails.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 02:07 AM
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Why is nobody talking about these things. Social Justice in Education is wrecking boys long term prospects, and DEI is direct oppression of men. Also... Child support should be at minimum capped to whatever the government is paying for foster kids!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 10:31 PM
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Even if that happened it doesn't make men happier, it makes them less happy. I did a review of male happiness in different communities combined with average fertility. I personally find the results shocking. I think... now I'm not 100% sure, but I think that the way to make men happy is to create social conventions that oppress them and force them to conform. How free women are does not have a significant impact on either women's or men's happiness. Instead it's the lack of freedom on men that c…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 10:29 PM
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.... how are those standards high compared to the USA? Eastern Europe - Standards are Personality + Achievements USA - Standards are genetic traits such as height/looks + Income in the Top 5% + Top Level social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 10:18 PM
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In order to be succesful with women, you need to be what women want and the lion's share of those qualities are fixed, static, or more precisely out of your control. This is incorrect. The vast majority of traits women find attractive are related to self care, and social skills. The physical traits are not the primary selection methods for nearly 80% of the female population. What you have is a situation where the largest part of an entire generation of boys has been intentionally stripped of an…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 10:13 PM
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I think what you and the other poster are really failing to capture here is that this entire thing is artificial. We are intentionally oppressing men in a way that incentivizes their disengagement. Women are being PUSHED to devote themselves to careers and men are being pushed out of schools and out of high paying jobs, especially in management in favor of less competent women. If you stopped oppressing boys, and changed affirmative action to compensate for the past 20 some years of discriminati…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 10:08 PM
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Emotional baggage is generally punishing someone for stuff their Ex did. Men just don't do this as much. Most guys are afraid to come across as controlling EVEN if the last 2 GFs were caught cheating on them. Women just have way more power in most average relationships than men do... and the reason is very simply that women have more perceived options.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 04:15 PM
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I'm going to be straight with you on this. The reason dating apps suck for women is that the selection criteria is primarily based on a couple of photos. Men swiping fewer women IS NOT going to change this key issue. Men are simply A LOT less picky about physical attraction. One particular big issue is that highly attractive men drown in matches and this leads them to look for hookups rather than relationships. The Black Pillers like to blame the 80/20 thing and women in general for this. Howeve…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 04:04 PM
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It's not really talked about much though; not many people want to stick their necks out since there's so much risk and little reward for being outspoken. I know a couple of OBGYN's who live in my blue state, and were expert witnesses in testifying to the committee of our nearby Red State on the effects of their rather stringent law. She claimed this was causing lots of death an injury, but couldn't provide details. The cases she did mention were not substantially different from cases that had oc…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 03:51 PM
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Okay, Red Pill [fire emoji] Man. What is expected of me? What do YOU expect of a woman? It isn't about what a few men expect from a woman. This is about cultural messaging. It's about what the people at the top of our society are teaching children to value about each gender... and about the roles each gender plays in a relationship and in society at large.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 04:58 AM
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Our society expects women to fit beauty standards that are changing all the time, No, the core beauty standard for women is timeless. have sex but somehow maintain our purity, LOL... You do this by only sleeping with your BF. Not exactly an unrealistic standard and yet, we don't actually hold women to it. Guess, what, you can find a husband even if you fuck the entire city of New York... including most of the zoo. Also... you can do it on national television. Society at large will be told not to…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 04:57 AM
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Their marriages are on average two to three times more stable than the average american marriage... so of course we shouldn't worry about them. They are doing fantastic. It's everyone else that needs to be worried.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 04:41 AM
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then you'd have to have an issue w men who want children since they put in 0% of the sweat equity required to birth one Yes, this is something that HAS to change. According to the studies the men who put in the most effort are also highly religious and tend to have larger families. Secular men only separate out based on income, with upper middle class men doing more "quality time" with the kids, but less cleanup. yeah that sounds great for men and fucking terrible for women It could actually be …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 08:52 PM
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I was agreeing about men calling it the ball and chain, but I think the date goes back much further.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 08:47 PM
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Except I think we should just be raising people to be people. I was raised pretty gender-neutral and I am really happy with my parents for doing that, because it freed me to just be authentic and not put on a show (well, until the rest of society tried to beat it into me). Our society expects nothing from women, with the exception they look good... and even that is crumbling. We ask A SHIT TON from men, and you can't just expect them to pick up on things naturally. Boys need discipline very badl…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 08:46 PM
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Not to brag (seriously) but I'm on some "big dick" forums (another account), and the consensus is that there's no correlation between height and pussy size. Ethnicity has the highest correlation to vaginal opening size. However, height absolutely plays a role in depth.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 08:15 PM
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Honestly, I feel like you aren't doing anything wrong. You aren't on food stamps or using up social resources. What I think we should really be talking about is the precipitous drop-off in male quality over the last 10 years. It seems clear to me that trying to raise a generation of boys to think and act like girls, and cutting them down at every opportunity when they try to actually achieve something is leading to horrible long term results.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 08:09 PM
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these women are saying they would rather be single than be with someone they dont want to be with, thats up for them to determine. I agree for the most part, but I have this issue with people who want to choose a certain lifestyle to live, but also want other people to help them pay for it. I mean we could drop the child poverty rate to under 5% if we just gave every single mom a husband that worked a minimum wage job 40 hours a week.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 08:03 PM
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the "marriage is a ball and chain" jokes started in the 80s i think Yes... the 1880s. The problem is that it's just as true for men as it is for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 07:48 PM
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If being with a specific man doesn't make her more happy and fulfilled, why would she? This creates the general idea that a man is responsible for a woman's happiness... which I find to be just totally untrue. When I date unhappy women... I can only make them happy temporarily. I refuse to be responsible for someone else's emotional state. The other thing is that we don't have a huge group of women that are about to join the nunnery. There are a number of strategies women are using right now to …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 07:43 PM
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I'm pretty sure it's called a D&C. I used to sell the equipment to perform it. I think sometimes they call it a Suction Aspiration. Either way, this should not be considered an abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 12:09 AM
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Yes w the caveat that there is no legal recourse for anyone when a doc thinks an abortion is needed to prevent a serious risk of killing or maiming the mom It's basic self defense. I'm not so sure we have had deaths because physicians are scared. Maybe in places like Mississippi, but not anywhere near where I live. I work with the physicians, so they tell me what's going on. I'm much more concerned that patients are afraid. The situation I keep hearing about is a woman trying to get a back alley…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 11:58 PM
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Lots of cultures in human history have practiced infanticide if the community could not feed another mouth. 100% accurate. Abortion has to be legal. It should also be well regulated... in particular for safety aspects, and placed within reasonable time limits. 6 weeks is not reasonable in my opinion, while 20-24 weeks makes much more sense. I actually think like 70% of the adult population in the US agrees with this stance. Which is how we know it exists as an election issue because the parties …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 10:43 PM
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This is kind of misleading. In the event of a miscarriage virtually every time the baby is already dead, and in the rare event that it's not... then the child cannot survive. So, these aren't really abortions because you aren't aborting anything. Instead these are procedures to clear out all the tissue from the deceased child to prevent sepsis. Unless you are talking about a different procedure. I was a vendor for Planned Parenthood for years, but they seriously wouldn't even allow state inspect…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 10:39 PM
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In my late 20s, I wound up with an illness that required medication that absolutely destroyed by testosterone production and I didn't realize it. Actually, my physician didn't even think it worth mentioning, but it also dropped my hemoglobin levels, since that's tied to your testosterone. I was an absolutely miserable person. Once I found the issue, I started taking testosterone supplements and my levels cranked way up for about 2 years. Then I got healthy, stopped taking all meds and my life we…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 10:31 PM
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Check you estrogen levels.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 10:26 PM
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No, they want attractive women; they accept unattractive women because they can't get the attractive women they want This is incorrect. When I'm high T, my focus greatly shifts. A chubby woman that looks like an ancient fertility goddess is VERY appealing to me, and skinny women with 8 year old boy hips are much less attractive. Although, nothing has ever made fake silicone asses look good. It should also be said that a woman being highly sexual is much more appealing. I feel like it pushes me t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 08:06 PM
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Or perhaps maybe it's that you are an overweight middle aged parent trying to date slim women in their 20s also from your post history. LOL... This is actually a big indicator of low testosterone. When my T is high, I'm just not that concerned with how my woman looks. This has also increased with age too, but the first time it was very noticeable was when I was taking testosterone in my late 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 08:02 PM
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It's also potential that women in this age category aren't looking for high T mates since their fertility window is closed. I mean most 65 year old men are dating 60 year old women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 07:58 PM
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I don't think you are understanding what testosterone does. First it makes you extremely horny and lowers your standards. The second thing it does is helps you build muscle and burn fat. The third thing is that it gives you drive and ambition to accomplish stuff AND ignore your own anxieties. Low T, makes you picky as hell, so anxious you are unable to function, and uninterested in achieving anything. I had a medical issue that crashed my testosterone at around age 27. For 3 years I did the supp…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 07:54 PM
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In some circumstances, YES. Usually these men are choosing work over their entire family... and it's very stupid. However, you have to understand that most of the men who do this... they do it because they deep down believe that the thing they contribute most to the family is money. They see themselves almost entirely in provider terms. There are some that just don't want to be that involved.... and these guys legitimately suck, but it's not the majority. We must have a shift in the attitudes of…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 06:48 PM
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It depends on your gender and/or religious indoctrination. Feminism IS religious indoctrination. You are the very generation which perpetuated pre-feminist gender roles, how can you possibly claim to know what drove modern women to run away from the trad life? You view this through a lens of feminist religious indoctrination, and you believe so many untrue things that you cannot come to a correct conclusion about this... it's broken your mind. There are a couple of things that made FAMILIES not …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 04:17 PM
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LOL... they have much higher access today, and to much more powerful shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 04:10 PM
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I think happiness is more a function of results vs expectations. However, there is a lot more to it than just that, because otherwise very low expectations would lead to higher levels of happiness and that just isn't true either. You have to have your core life needs met, before comparing results to expectations. So, what we are looking at today is that women in the past had more core needs met, AND they had more realistic expectations of both themselves and those around them. You can see from t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 04:09 PM
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Ok so just imagine you were born in a different time. I have actually studied history. Not only that, I was raised by the generation in question. Not allowed to work - better get married! This was never true at any point in history. Typically at any time 20% or so of the female population never married and never had children. Almost every generation had a war where large amounts of men were slaughtered like pigs to the butcher yard. Women were almost entirely exempt, so there were just not enoug…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 04:03 PM
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Women living now. Not 50s, 40s, 30s, etc. But NOW are polled to have the highest rates of dissatisfaction, mental illness, anxiety, etc. Than any other time in history. Part of this is the Tradwife thing absolutely scares the ever living shit out of these people. It seems to cause women to stop being corporate slaves and brainless consumers. Think about it... the career women of the world substitute a husband for a boss to whom they are endlessly submissive to. Just look at the shit women did fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 03:45 PM
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But men can refer to pop culture memes and see very clearly that women were overworked, unappreciated and relentlessly harangued by men they were not sexually attracted to. I was partially raised by my grandparents, and I knew this generation intimately. They didn't have the feminist brainwashing you have, so they looked at all this stuff very differently. There wasn't this pity party of self absorption. Life was fucking hard, and people had to overcome problems, obstacles, and a lot of the stuf…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 03:32 PM
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Pent up demand. After an initial increase, then divorce rates fell way below previous levels. It wasn't until the Boomers started getting married in large numbers that the divorce rates start steadily increasing. If you look at the Greatest and Silent Generations they got divorced at what we would consider insane low rates. Also, if you look at polling data on happiness, those women were happier than women today by crazy high margins!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 03:15 PM
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When women had no rights they pretty much had to be married off to live and exist. No, THIS is a weird lie people tell themselves. Women always had rights, often times more rights than men. Throughout history there were always women who didn't marry and didn't have children, usually about 20% of all women. They were always positions within society that provided them status and protections. If you go back to the 1950s, nearly 30% of the female population had jobs outside of the home. This idea th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 02:59 PM
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Yes, BUT in the past cultures took great pains to raise boys like that up. The list of great historical figures who were weak as boys is very long. One of my favorites was Frederick the Great of Prussia. His father pushed him, and the men around him pushed almost to a breaking point if you read his letters, but he overcame his natural tendencies to become the most brilliant and decisive generals of his era. The thing is that we are not supposed to give up on these boys. We are supposed to help t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 02:46 PM
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Most women don’t just pick guys face on status and money. What women prioritize is very much individual dependent. This ignores the enormous amount of overlap between women. I mean if they were all looking for something different, then you would find a lot fewer single people.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 11:58 PM
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It's an extremely common saying that nice guys confuse being nice with being a spineless doormat. I completely agree with this. However... It's always said in response to spineless men who self identify as "nice". It's not also commented how these spineless men will tend to also wrongly think that spineless women are "nice". Which is also something to take into account in all the "even nice girls date bad boys" discussions. Spineless men are not born, they are made. I think what and many others …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 11:50 PM
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It's right there in the new testament. Maybe God supposedly chooses it that way. Again, you don't get to pick and choose which parts you believe. This isn't about choosing not to believe verses. It's about actually understanding what they mean. I admire your faith though!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 09:36 PM
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You probably should have taken that a different direction, because now you just look like a fool. It's a metaphor for economic competition, and you were intellectually incapable of grasping that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 09:28 PM
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Your spouse can be sanctified through a believing spouse. You have a really hard time accepting what is written in the Bible. It's not coded confusing language. Through your spouse believing in Christ. It's written right there It's a direct contradiction of other verses. How do you reconcile this? Sanctification is no longer through Christ? It's no longer a work of God?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 09:22 PM
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Yes! A very dramatic piece of prose! That was the point, it's an attention grabber. If you look at life... survival in the past hasn't been very easy. We built this whole society up men and women working together, and we take everything that went into building it for granted. There really isn't that much keeping us from descending into a failed state like N. Korea or Mogadishu. Understand that there are a lot of people who want that. They want to destroy this system, and I suspect you unwittingl…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 09:16 PM
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Who is oppressing and discriminating men? It's a coalition of women and wealthy men. What grievances? Education, Justice, Finance, Taxation, Gender based discrimination in almost everything from company formation to job promotion, to educational outcomes, and media. There are so many issues they cannot be all addressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 09:07 PM
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Having a lot of men who feel those things and have no hope could be dangerous though. Some might take accountability, improve themselves or get therapy or something, but many won't. I think you are missing the point of the whole thing. This stuff is happening because men are being discriminated against in almost every institution our society. This isn't JUST about these kids fixing themselves. We have an entire system that needs to get fixed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 09:01 PM
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Again, that's nobody's fault. Those men should take accountability for their depression and anger. Discrimination against men is to blame for this. They have a right to be angry with their oppressors and have a right to band together to have these grievances addressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 08:57 PM
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Reading this made me realize that RP gives men a lot of license to think about better, sexier, deeply fictional men ad nauseam. Lots to unpack there, but women seem rather secondary to this whole fantasy I think this glib response is myopic and self centered. On a very fundamental level, men are forced to compete with one another for almost everything. If you had to live this existence, of course you would be fucking obsessed with your competition as well. To us life is a gladiatorial arena, you…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 08:42 PM
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That's not her job. Her job is to submit to him even when he is not following the word so that her obedience shall win him salvation. He has been sanctified through her beliefs. So is salvation through a wife, or through Christ alone? Is this really about the spouse or is it more about the Children being Unclean or Holy. My father was a pastor that tried to murder me. I am well aware of the insanity that happens and the use of the Bible to defend it. That is very sad. A father doing that would h…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 08:30 PM
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Haha, so, in summary: the Red Pill isn’t a strategy for men to get the results they want in dating, but rather a way of punishing women for acting some kind of way? It's a strategy for getting what you want out of dating, and as a result you prevent women from taking advantage of you. What's so hard to comprehend about that? I mean it's always been about breaking away from the brainwashing that turns men into beasts of burden to be used and discarded entirely for the benefit of elite men and mos…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 08:10 PM
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Yes, RP agenda is about being mad at imaginary women. Almost every Red Pill guy has a very specific woman they are upset with. Once did a poll and 80% of Red Pill men had experienced a woman cheating on them. I suspect the Black Pillers are mostly angry at their mom. They seem to be aggressively failing at this. Because I have my cake and eat it too. Are you dating a Red Pill guy? He's not actually a nice guy. He's just bitter and thinks that being nice means he gets an automatic girlfriend. Thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 08:06 PM
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Again, do not just look at one or two verses and ignore both the text surrounding it, and the Bible as a whole. A husband is not God. Instead a husband is told to submit himself to God. Therefore these verses are talking about the situation where a husband has either submitted to God, or a wife has converted yet remains married to an unbeliever. If the husband is in Christ then he will be following God's commands, and a wife should therefore follow his. This is how the Bible says it should be. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 07:30 PM
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If American Christians genuinely believed this, the "be debt-free" message would target boys and men equally What are you smoking? The the college campuses are nearly 70% female. How often do you find a Christian man in some fucking gender studies program? This doesn't need to be said because the boys already got the message. They target boys with things that are actually potential issues... like porn usage. Nobody is worried their boy is going to grow up and be a raging feminist. That might be …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 05:22 PM
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Ephesians 5:22-24 Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife even as Christ is the head of the church, his body, and is himself its Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit in everything to their husbands. How you interpret these verses is up to you. However, I am just going to suggest to you that NEVER does God ask a wife to submit to a husband in the breaking of God's commandments. It openly states that as a man i…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 05:12 PM
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What does "obey the word" mean? What does "submission" mean in this context? Again, if a husband demands that his wife worship satan... do you think this verse requires her to do so?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 04:02 PM
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Incorrect. I think people should be allowed to live however best fits them. YOU are the one demonizing people who choose lifestyles that you disagree with... calling the women involved slaves and the men involved misogynists. I'm not slinging insults or making generalizations, you are the one doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 03:57 PM
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This is not what the Bible states. 1Peter 3:1 Likewise, wives, be in subjection to your own husbands, so that if any do not obey the Word, they may also be won without the Word by the conduct of the wives, Think about this verse in context. Look at what it tells the men in verses above and below it. 3 Be subject for the Lord's sake to every human institution, whether it be to the emperor as supreme, 14 or to governors as sent by him to punish those who do evil and to praise those who do good. 15…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 03:53 PM
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Fun fact, men don't actually want the debt-free virgin (or low body count) without tattoos. I am such a woman and am 34 and single. They see us as boring and largely ignore us for the tattooed, materialistic harlots or reject us because we won't put out as quickly as they'd like. Doesn't this says more about the men you spend your time around than anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 03:42 PM
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Except, being short is not a choice you make. Promiscuity, tattoos, and debt, are all choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 03:37 PM
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Let's be real: "debt-free" is a dog-whistle for "not college educated" in most American Christian circles. I wish these people would just say the regressive thing out loud. This says more about your unhealthy and weird view of college than it does them. It's like you think nobody can have a job unless they go $100k into debt first. The value of college drops significantly every year.... I think most of the Religious people have caught onto this a long time ago. Meanwhile all the secular women ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 03:36 PM
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Which I dont understand because plenty of men have tattoo and when people see my tattoo, they say its goregous. I actually did some research on this. Tattoo type and placement are extremely important. If they signal some kind of group inclusion or status, men actually like them... things like that matter. However, as a whole, people both men and women who get lots of tattoos, tend to be people with body issues. The tattoo makes them feel as though they have greater control over these body issues…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 03:23 PM
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The virgin and tattoos are not so important. This might hold a greater weight with men of faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 03:16 PM
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You sure? I could have sworn she was reacting to the article and not just reacting to Christianity. I have a fairly limited knowledge of Christian Doctrine, and she is a bit off. If you look at how the religion is structured, men are told to submit to God. A man is often portrayed as God's wife. The wife is asked to submit to the husband, ONLY when he is submitting to God. Children are then asked to submit to their mother and father... again... only when the parents are in submission to God. So,…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 03:12 PM
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No, you are a bigot because you apply the term slave to situations where you know it doesn't actually fit in order to make people in traditional relationships look bad. That's exactly the kind of thing bigots do. They lie in order to dehumanize and demonize people they don't like.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 02:49 PM
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I think twins and triplets are super hard, but kids with 2 years spacing 3 is max difficulty and at 4 it starts decreasing. I know families with 6 and 7 kids. The older kids are helpful and responsible... the kids entertain themselves and are coached to resolve their own disputes. The main issue is this parenting method that is super popular today, where you have just 1 or 2 kids and you devote every scrap of energy into them... it's clearly broken. These children are growing up emotionally frag…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 01:18 AM
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I just feel that if we could make more women like you, and more men worthy of women like you... all of this junk goes away.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 12:51 AM
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Yeah... I wasn't including the lazy dbags.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 10:09 PM
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Yeah... I wasn't including the lazy dbags.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 10:01 PM
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Yeah... I wasn't including the lazy dbags.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 10:01 PM
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There are millions of them. The issue is locating one that you find attractive. That is where most women are falling down.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 09:26 PM
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You are a good kid, and your family sounds good too. Interesting how so often good families have good kids. I'd love to be a stay at home dad, but that just isn't going to happen for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 09:23 PM
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I took a year off to care for my 2 year old. It took some time to get my energy levels up... I started waking up an hour before and running on the treadmill. I am an older dad so, this was a must. Afterwards, It wasn't a problem. I spent so much time running her around the park. She took afternoon naps that let me rest up. The cleaning wasn't anything difficult. I don't understand why other people have such an issue with it. Whenever she was done playing with something... she and I would clean u…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 09:20 PM
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I'm not jumping into your posts. Clearly reality offends you and makes it hard to be a bigot. So go live your life as you want and stop protecting your own hate onto others!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 08:45 PM
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A couple reasons. First, young men bitch about it a lot... and they think of it almost exclusively in terms of sex. That's interesting to the media. Second, telling women what they want to hear is incredibly profitable, and tell women uncomfortable truths not only doesn't pay well... it gets you shunned by ideologues. Look at the loneliness polling stats. Young women are only doing a few points better than young men. The older female population is very divided. Of the women with no kids the ones…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 07:46 PM
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I don't think so. If you look at what women find attractive in a man, a lot of those traits relate to self care. So, the men who are likely to live longer and healthier lives are the ones who get married. Also Spinsters are the lowest happiness group of women in every country. I think children temporarily reduce women's happiness, but greatly increase it long term. That's basically what you see in the studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 06:52 PM
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Percieved Social Class is the most likely answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 06:47 PM
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Every relationship has a power dynamic. Being equals sounds great, but almost never works. I'm not going to fault people for wanting defined roles to guide them. I've tried equal relationships so many times the word gives me a headache. It always winds up with her trying to tell me what to do. Trust me, being responsible for stuff sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 06:42 PM
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Yes, absolutely! It's a horrible situation, particularly for women. The guys put very low effort into the relationship... even when they have children. It makes her feel very bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 02:00 AM
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That would only be true if being submissive is BAD. In fact it's not. Men submit all the time to one another, to institutions, and even to women. So, this is just you being incredibly biased and ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 11:38 PM
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You're wrong. Men marry promiscuous women all the time, they just tend to do it in their late 20s/mid 30s when they've all gone around enough and are ready to settle. They seem to also end up with a higher divorce rate. Not every man has full brain function. A lot of them are deeply damaged or emotionally scarred. Stuff like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 11:21 PM
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I'm not sure what you mean by that. You should be making educated guesses about people in advance, but keeping in mind that they are guesses. Where most people go wrong is by acting insanely naïve, or acting like their guesses are correct. With that said. You should know that ideological groups are like religious organizations. They push certain types of conformity to thought. While religion focuses this on the spiritual world, ideological people focus this on material things.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 11:17 PM
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I think HoeMath is on a totally different level. He's already realized that there is a group of powerful people who are actively pushing men down and actively pushing women to be horrible and shitty.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 08:35 PM
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Men and women both have short term and long term mating strategies. Sluts are a male short term mating strategy. THIS is why men tend to use it as an insult. What is absolutely foolish about women today is that they think men who they sleep with and men they don't feel differently about them. They don't. Men who sluts refuse get upset about it, but that doesn't change the fact that she is fundamentally a short term woman unworthy of investment. Today's sluts seem to think that the men they ARE s…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 08:33 PM
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They always have seen them. Social media is the big difference, because before that, women had zero chance of dating these guys unless they were within the right social circle. Now all the social circles have kind of collapsed and they can bang these ladies on the sly.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 04:44 PM
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This is completely true. Beauty is entirely subjective anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 12:46 PM
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I view that as a positive trait on your end. It's true I'm highly cynical. But can you agree that ideology affects behavior and mindset?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 04:47 AM
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You can measure it, and it seems to be tied to an ideological worldview. If you don't like the truth, it's Ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 03:50 AM
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Gen X... Yes just people. Gen Z... entitled, spoiled, narcissistic people.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 03:27 AM
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NOT in the under 30 category. Stop applying Boomer logic to something new. If these women weren't fucking crazy then we would not be facing a population crisis.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 03:21 AM
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Are you suggesting that it's just easier to turn men on?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 03:08 AM
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Yeah, I remember how powerful those social cliques used to be. I didn't date at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 10:48 PM
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Ah... my high school was about 2500 as well, but only maybe 50 people knew me or cared whether I lived or died. I think most of them would have preferred death. But that age is a bit hard for boys. My family was insane, I mentally developed slower than some of the other boys. I had big emotional problems all the way through that time period. I feel like most of the girls had their stuff sorted by 16 or 17.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 10:30 PM
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My university was small. We had about 6,000. I was a rower. I think everyone who lived on campus knew me in some capacity. Because our school was small and rowing is not a career sport... we were all very smart. In fact, most of us were in STEM and very snooty about the social science majors.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 10:16 PM
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, I was fine. Any guy I've actually wanted, I've never had a problem getting. There are many different levels of getting a guy... some are not worth it. But I get what you mean. I was a zero in high school, but in university I became one of the most popular guys in school. Captain of a sports team and all that stuff. So, I kind of get it.... not really but kind of.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 09:48 PM
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I gave up on being shallow years ago. It's really liberating. I think men who are born less attractive struggle hard because they can't get over their own competitive desires. Listen, there is a difference between being beautiful and being sexy. I don't think a lot of people realize it. The latter is much more important than the former. That is my belief.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 09:29 PM
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It's really common with women who are not conventionally attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 09:23 PM
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There are other ways to make tall women feel petite.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 08:38 PM
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In my opinion, I think most of the feminist logic can be summed up in one word: Munchausen. It's something that has changed over the years. I think what is going on today would horrify most of those who actually started it. I can see the Munchhausen analogy... but I think the connections to communism are so strong at this point that I really believe that the stupid people supporting it are doing it because they expect to gain power from it. So, I think this is an entirely political thing and it'…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 08:19 PM
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It exactly fits the definition Incorrect. In order to be a misogynist then you must dislike all women specifically for being women. Disliking a small subset of women who refuse to fit into your culture group is not misogyny. It's clear that you are using this definition loosely so that you can claim anyone who hold women accountable to a standard of behavior is a misogynist. The worst part is that you are literally relying on the increased empathy society gives women in order to get away with th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 06:15 PM
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It's worse, but a different kind of worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 06:10 PM
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Then you are incorrect. What Conservative/Right Wing men do is hold women accountable to a more traditional behavior. They love the women who behave within these bounds, and greatly dislike the ones who do not. Disliking some women, based on how they act, not based on the fact that they are women is not Misogyny by your own definition. You should come up with a better term for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 06:02 PM
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We now have population data on men who can't get dates. 75% of them grew up in left wing homes... and 50% continue in left wing beliefs. The ones that attend a church weekly are about 5%... and there has been some suggestion that a portion of them are actually celibate gay men. I grew up as an atheist in a highly religious area. I even attended a private religious school for a while where I was the only non-believer. Religious boys are taught to be polite, respectful, but also to hold women to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 05:58 PM
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Define misogynist?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 05:50 PM
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I totally disagree. This used to be a topic of many flame wars within the Red Pill in the past. To be very brief on the topic, what you are missing is that between the 1800s and 1900s there was a huge shift within most mainline churches from Theological Orthodoxy towards Theological Liberalism and it caused some of the biggest churches to split. It's STILL causing churches to split. That change in theology almost always makes the church significantly more effeminate... because it has a view of h…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 05:49 PM
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There is nothing wrong with wanting to reject someone politely. It's not a people pleaser thing... it's a decent person thing. This just happens to be a situation where No Reply is an Answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 05:24 PM
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Sure, but the problem is that compatibility should be the largest part of attraction. That's why this situation blows up in people's faces all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 05:16 PM
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My reading comprehension is fine. There is no need to discuss who could land someone better looking because that’s not how it works if you have any kind of functional relationship. Well, in your opinion, how much of attraction is based in looks? I agree that no good relationship is based entirely on looks. However, that seems to be the most important initial criteria for which people evaluate one another as potential partners today. BUT, there is no reason why by bf could get a better looking wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 03:43 PM
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It really doesn't have the same connotation. As a general rule men don't marry women that cannot incite lust. On the other hand, women marry men for all kinds of reasons that have nothing to do with attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 01:54 PM
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Your thinking is so warped, where what someone looks like is the highest consideration. It’s not. Talking about what someone “can get” is just gross, as if someone better looking on some objective scale makes someone a better or more desirable partner. Compatibility and attraction are the essential factors. You do not want to get into a discussion over who is more shallow today men or women... because women are shallow on an almost insane level at the moment. I would say in the history of the wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 01:48 PM
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just because I am capable of being with someone taller with more chiseled features (who does not appeal to me in any way)? Gross. You probably are not capable... that is the problem the kids seem to be running into all the time today. There aren't many of these guys around and the demand for them is borderline insane... yet it seems like every woman thinks she can marry one. Your Boyfriend is probably near the very top of what kind of man you can reasonably get commitment from, and every year mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 01:08 PM
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If you don't have attractive physical qualities, then yes, you do have to make up for that by possessing other desirable qualities to attract women. I think what bothers me about this idea is that if you are an ugly man... what value is there in trying to date really beautiful women? Men need to stop acting like being shallow is a virtue. I know shallow women and they seriously limit their own lives, and while shallow men seem to have it better... it's still kills happiness. Being all bent out o…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 12:57 PM
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Every step of the way traditionally they are getting ownership of the woman. While different culture groups had different customs over time, this is an ignorant view of the marriage custom. Most cultures did not allow men to marry slaves, which is what you are suggesting. Instead it was a transfer of protection and support from a father to a husband, and an economic alliance between the two families.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 12:36 PM
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First, women don't want to date these guys. Second, if they do date these guys and through that process the man becomes more confident and attractive... then he will often run off with someone better if he can. Especially if she is mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 12:09 AM
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What? Triangulation is what abusive moms do, creating a good kid, and bad kid to play them off each other. Red Pill doesn't do anything like this, and I know most of the techniques. Maybe you are thinking of Dred Game or something? When Red Pill suggests using jealousy, they are going to do things like ignore you and pay much more attention to your less attractive friend... but still openly flirt with you. They will compliment you in ways that could result in you comparing yourself to other wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 12:06 AM
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I think the consequences of a man dating an abusive woman are not the same as the reverse. There just isn't a woman out there that is going to be able to take me in a fist fight. I've wrestled with more than my fair share... men just don't need to be concerned. Also, these guys are not looking at the women in particular as potential long term mates. Men also have a dual mating strategy... we just never talk about it here.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 11:35 PM
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Yeah, you are correct, but look there is a complete lack of empathy for everything men struggle with. Prostate cancer... who gives a fuck? Prison rape... Hahaha funniest shit ever! Wife cheating with another guy... you must have been a shitty husband. I mean it really doesn't matter the problem, there is absolute just zero empathy for men... unless you got chocked to death by a cop and that's only because people can exploit the shit out of your death to push whatever bullshit they already wanted…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 10:47 PM
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I did this in high school as a part time job. They give you a list of most common issues and you just go down the list until you find the one that fixes it. "Please check and make sure it's plugged in"... used to drive people up the wall, but it's shocking how many times that was the problem. Even had someone call in once to complain their cupholder was broken. I remember being super confused and saying something like "Cupholder? Your PC does not have a cupholder." To which they responded "Yes m…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 10:34 PM
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It doesn't have to creep more into society... it's already here. Even worse, the assholes who run everything in our country are entirely beholden to this crap. It's the equivalent of putting Nazi's in charge of educating Jewish kids, of judging them, of determining hiring policies, of handing out government contracts and benefits. This goes WAY beyond just a couple of idiot journalists or crappy movies people can avoid. These people have a stranglehold on power.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 11:02 PM
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I see most of these biases also being played out in media and government all the time. A famous example is when those Nigerian girls were taken hostage by Boko Haram. The media made a huge deal about it, even pushing fundraisers and popular twitter hashtags. But... there were also boys at that school. What happened to them didn't even get one mention in the media. When they did a poll asking people if they wanted to know the fate of these boys it was almost 100% interest. Yet, the journalists di…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 02:26 PM
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If they are open racists... fuck yeah! If they are open sexists... Yes. A better question is... why do you think it's Ok to have people who openly hate men in positions of power over them? In particular education where little boys are absolutely defenseless.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 02:20 PM
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In your grandma's day, women were even less likely to be believed about things like rape, and if a woman had a reputation for sleeping around, all the accused man would have to say is "come on, she sleeps with everyone, not like I'd have to force her." Reputation and standing in a community was essentially a social credit score. Women who were known to be promiscuous would not be believed... however women who were known as virtuous would be immediately believed and the man involved could literal…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 02:08 PM
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Maybe the commenters are biased; maybe they're playing characters. In any case, extrapolating anything from there to ""society"" is a reach. I think it exposes the biases held by white left wing men and women. Since these folks are greatly overrepresented in government, education, entertainment, and journalism. I think this makes a very good argument that people who hold these beliefs should not be working in these fields or in major positions of power unless directly elected.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 01:32 PM
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The system men designed and maintain as part of the infrastructure? THIS is a statement of collective guilt based on the actions of a system. Nope, it’s horseshit. Stats demonstrate that more than 90% men happily sign over custody to mom without any court intervention whatsoever. This is a fact, which may or may not be accurate, but definitely is in the ballpark, but does nothing to actually explain WHY. To my knowledge, we only have 1 study on why men walk away from children, which means from a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 01:16 PM
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Cool, now you know about a law that nobody enforces. Hmm... I wonder how much you could sue the state in terms of damages for lack of enforcement? I think you would need a class action to make this worthwhile.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 12:43 PM
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The system men designed and maintain as part of the infrastructure? Take a step back and really think about this idea you are putting forth. It fundamentally denies the individuality of men. It's an evil thing, and you should abandon it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 12:34 PM
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Ok, so you believe in the first scenario. Hypergamy is relative, so if the vast majority of men BECOME high value, then they won't be high value anymore, but the new average. Hypergamy is relative TO THE WOMAN, not to other men. Of course the dating pool women swim in plays a role, but not at the level of core attraction. To work, the RP philosophy requires that most fail. So the advice is mostly useless. This is wrong thinking. The more men who raise up their levels, the more that 80/20 thing s…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 12:25 PM
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Warning: Physically dangerous levels of cringe. I don't see them actually talking to women. All of those guys are good looking enough they should be able to get dates. Of course they aren't going to be landing supermodels, but even the shortest ugliest one is better looking than the average woman out here.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 12:18 PM
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talk about how biased the court system is against men. Well, men don’t go to court to fight for custody, so… the court has nothing to do with men’s disinterest in fatherhood. Of course. Men know the system is stacked against them, so why would they even bother unless the mother is a danger to the child? More to the point though. Everyone keeps telling these guys they aren't needed. If you want them to act like fathers, then we as a society need to shut the fuck up about not needing men, and inst…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 12:12 PM
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Bro, look at this sub. Damn good point actually. No, that's just the "no true Scotsman" argument. You can't claim red pill works by excluding everyone it doesn't work for. But there has to be a defining line doesn't there? I know there's this yearning for the golden age of red pill, but I was there when it got started. It has always been like this, from the very start. I was also there at the start. I joined in around 2008-2009 timeframe and I personally met and knew a lot of the prominent guys …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 12:07 PM
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LOL... Unfortunately, most criminals are both lazy and stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 11:44 AM
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Yes, they can be and in fact this is. If you want to talk about how biased the court system is against men, then this would be a pertinent fact. I do agree that the number of cases where a judge makes the determination of custody is low. However, that's not the only place where bias takes place. Having been through a divorce that required lawyers and a judge, I know intimately how terrible the system acts towards men. Luckily, I did not have children at that time. The overall point though is tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 11:42 AM
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Red pill is at its most basic is incoherent, the idea that the least successful, least experienced guys somehow know the most about what women want. I don't know where this idea comes from. I don't think I ever met a Red Pill man who has slept with under 20 women. The very foundation of the Red Pill is from Pickup Artists... who tend to be the most experienced. Because the Athletes and celebrities don't have to do anything to get women... so they don't know how it works... and when it doesn't th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 09:36 PM
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Are those guys really red pill? I mean ditch Tate and instead go back and read Roissy at Chateau Heartiste. That guy was the beating heart of the Red Pill movement almost from the start. Even if you become "High Value" you should not be expecting women to just throw themselves at you, unless you are famous. Tate was basically kidnapping women and holding them against their will. How Red Pill is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 09:27 PM
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Which brings you to the second scenario, if only a small % of men can actually self improve to the point of becoming "high value" than the overall advice is useless to most men. I think the vast majority of men are capable of becoming high value. Why would this not be true? Dating advice is something that the average person can do. Here, if i assume that the average man can, then the result is bad, if i assume the average men can't, then the advice is useless. Hence the incoherence. We think of …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 09:24 PM
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The only good thing about TRP is the self improvement advice which is also normie mainstream advice Normie advice is "Just be yourself" The rest is toxic bs that's more harmful than good. Nothing good can come up from inexperienced men giving advice to other inexperienced men and also shutting up any woman's input. You have mixed up Red and Black pills. They both have their negatives, but they are very different negatives. The easiest way to tell is Black Pill assumes women are the most shallow …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 09:19 PM
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but there is no set "self-sufficiency" age that is going to work for all kids. You know your kids better than anyone... or at least you should. You just go slow and give your kids as much agency as you can. I'm sorry but what I see from too many parents is this idea that the kid won't do it correctly, or will make a mess. I let my daughter make a mess of it, and then have her clean it up. It's Ok to fail. It's not Ok to give up. When she has a success, I praise her highly and she is very proud o…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 08:40 PM
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How is the nurturing valued by men when nurturing encompass cooking and cleaning. I'm not entirely sure what you are using as a definition for Nurturing. I wouldn't put cleaning under that category, and cooking only nominally. Most of the things that I consider important on the side of nurture are emotional. The United States has a major obesity epidemic among children. Providing children with healthy and nutritious food is an essential part of being a caretaker. Obesity is a multifaceted proble…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 08:33 PM
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Because the minimum bill to fight for custody starts at several thousand dollars, and the man has to pay the woman's lawyer's fees, who coincidentally can drag out the custody fight indefinitely Where did you get this information? I'm just curious. there is no enforced legal repercussions for the woman if she moves with the child and completely ghosts the father of her children, even though it's technically kidnapping. Yes, my state passed a law that makes it illegal for whoever has custody of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 07:28 PM
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I think the key thread is that a lot of men don't feel necessary, and there is a massive amount of social messaging that reinforces this problem. Just to reinforce how much society at large thinks fathers are irrelevant, I looked around quite a bit for a study that shows WHY so many fathers don't parent and I couldn't find anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 07:07 PM
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I agree this is likely a significant driver of fathers abandoning their children, but I don’t think women are at fault for this. This isn't a "Women" at fault issue. This is an entire culture and society issue... so men are just as guilty. Men can fix this by working on their emotional intelligence and taking on more of the emotional work when raising children. Be there to celebrate their achievements and progress, show up to their games, help them with homework Stop. This is a bullshit pattern.…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 06:05 PM
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The thing is, after having so many conversations with the men on this sub, others, the internet and real life, the culture surrounding this will be extremely hard to change because men don’t value being a caretaker of children, or anyone really. The government could easily coordinate this. They control virtually all education, entertainment, and have vast sums of money. It wouldn't be that difficult actually. I suspect the reason they don't do it is because the folks at the top have active fathe…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 05:59 PM
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Please explain where that number comes from. It's beside the point anyway. When society as a whole keeps telling men they aren't needed, eventually men begin to act like they aren't needed. In the past, men felt needed as providers... and that was how they engaged with fatherhood. Feminists have taken that away for the most part, because they believed men weren't required. Now we have generations of fucked up useless kids, over a million of them lost just to opiates alone. It's time everyone cam…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 05:42 PM
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I don't know if this is sarcasm or not, but that would work.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 05:33 PM
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Father figure isn’t needed, this is just copium for trying to cover up men being utter trash because given the choice they’ll choose the path of least resistance This attitude is the problem. Most women are terrible parents and completely incompetent with children beyond age 3 or 4. The more we tell men they aren't needed, the more they believe that shit and walk away. YOU are the problem. The answer is to tell men that they are required, and not only demand they be in the child's life, but also…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 05:32 PM
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Yep. It's a pretty common theme on the custody and step parent reddits. Many will show back up to pay parent again when they get a girlfriend. I see that too. What conclusion do you draw from this?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 05:24 PM
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If you really believe lawyers are the reason that men rarely seek time with their kids, then do you also believe that most divorce lawyers successfully deter most of their clients from divorce by telling them that divorce is an expensive waste of time and they could better spend their money on their family? Most divorces don't involve lawyers, but all divorces DO involve judges. I think every study on this subject ever done has shown a massive bias against fathers by judges... it's systemic. But…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 05:19 PM
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I think 3 states out of 50, and Florida is the biggest.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 05:09 PM
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i would love to understand the thought process surely they have some reason to say this that's not just misogyny? I read some studies on this. The core issue is that an absolutely enormous portion of the male population believe their only contribution to a child is financial. When they can't provide, they don't feel needed and walk away in shame. It's almost entirely cultural too. I don't know why, but men have a requirement to feel needed. This applies to a lot of different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 05:08 PM
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There's 0 reason for a father to not be involved after a divorce. Men don't file for custody. Less than 10% of divorce custody goes to court. Men choose to not be involved. It's not a mother's job to force a man to be a parent. We talk A LOT about deadbeat dads in the culture at large, but we never talk about WHY. I personally cannot understand this behavior from men and so I went and looked it up. It turns out that this issue is highly affected by financial status, but when you look at what the…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 04:56 PM
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Oh but guys have to be rich to have a home in the suburbs so could they use that to their advantage since women like money and status or so it's been said on here? There are so many variables. I live near a tech hub and yeah there are some suburbs that require lots of money, and some that are more working class and affordable. The big city absolutely requires more money, and the women are much more expecting big money. I think a good chunk of women work on this, "I see it, so I should be able to…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 10:20 PM
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I'd tell them the same thing 🤷🏻‍♀️ if they don't like it, they can choose not to listen to me. I'm not here to proselytize. But I'm not going to change my advice because of individual experience. I get it. It's just a situation where advice need to be highly tailored to the individual in order to be successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 09:55 PM
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If you think the average woman has faced mass rejection... that's just delusional. You are unique in both how you approach dating, and in how you think about relationships. Perhaps unique is too strong a word her... niche might describe it better. The point being that your advice for dealing with rejection works Ok for women similar to yourself, but comes across as obtuse at best when talking to men. A guy who has 10 rejections and 8 yes's... all you have to do is focus on the ones that say Yes.…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 09:21 PM
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The problem is that the people who think that women were just breeding slaves are also functionally immune to discussion. Any attempt will end in a barrage of personal attacks, gaslighting, feeling-based interpretation of dynamics and regurgitated talking points of feminism with no understanding of fundamentals in sight. 100% true, but that should tell anyone and everyone who is listening something. They have an emotional tie to this lie, which is about things that happened before they were born…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 09:05 PM
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The assumption here is that you are like other women. To my mind that's like comparing Jaguars to housecats... but sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 08:48 PM
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I mean look, you got the meth-heads and trailer park types, but filter that out and boy does the quality increase rapidly from there. Women in the big cities are almost all part of that Urban Monoculture... and those women are really for a particular niche of man. The suburbs are insane. The competition is beyond crazy, the absolute best women are only available by social circle. I really think this is where most of the misery between people exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 08:39 PM
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Rejection is not a referendum on your sexuality. It's the answer to your question, "Is this woman worth my time and effort?" Not affective when facing large amounts of rejection. You can tell yourself this crap all day long, but the rejection will still get in your head and wreck you. My strong suggestion is to instead focus on very small wins. Yes, she rejected me, but I made her smile. Yes, she rejected me, but I noticed her friend was making really good eye contact with me. Stuff like that re…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 08:15 PM
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Let it be okay to say "this sucks" and grieve that we don't live in a healthy civilization where people's needs (in this case their social needs) are being met. It is my understanding that most people throughout history were introduced to potential spouses by their family. Marriage and romance had absolutely nothing to do with one another. Instead marriage was all about family alliances and pooling resources. For that matter in an initial marriage looks played very little role and society at lar…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 08:11 PM
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It's not that easy. The more you experience it, the more it piles up and begins to get into your head. Most women can't really relate, but when you point out that it's fairly similar to having a problem getting the job you want it makes more sense. It's not just the rejection itself it's the work you put into trying, having hopes dashed time and again. For me, I think it took about 600 rejections and then it just didn't bother me anymore and that feeling was absolutely liberating. After that, I …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 06:28 PM
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Small towns are shrinking in population, most of the people you may want to be with are already taken BUT.... the women who are available tend to be much higher quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 06:15 PM
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TLDR: Guys who don’t like hooking up should still be assessing if the woman they’re dating has a carnal interest in him. This could be assessed by her reaction and intensity when kissing. This could be assessed by if you guys go out dancing, how sexy and intimate the dancing or physical intimacy throughout the night on the town is. This could be assessed by her giddily holding your hand and snuggling up to you when you’re out and about or sharing a booth at a restaurant or watching a movie on th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 06:01 PM
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You represent about 20% of the adult female population in the US. While I encourage men to look for unicorns here, because our unicorns are the best. No guy who has his stuff together should be wasting his time taking most of our women seriously. If you take the entire world as a whole into consideration, our average man is upper middle, and our average woman is below bottom barrel in terms of the things each sex is looking for in a long term partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 05:59 PM
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If you go to the ancient world, a wife's primary duty is straight up to respect her husband and follow his lead. Even in the traditions outside of the Mesopotamian area where we have lots of written documentation. By the way. There are a TON of ancient cultures where queens were allowed to have lovers outside of their husband. In fact the Greeks in the time of Alexander the Great ran across a powerful kingdom in India where the king had come to power simply by being extremely tall and handsome. …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 05:23 PM
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i'm not familiar w this, i thought switzerland was rich? The core finding of the study is that children who are placed into daycare develop anxious avoidant attachment disorders, ADHD, and a whole raft of other mental health disorders. It seems that having your mom or dad leave you alone with strangers especially within the first 3 or 4 years of your life is creating life long mental health problems. and medical costs people do have to pay shouldn't bankrupt anyone, at the very least not anyone …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 02:29 AM
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yeah i think its wild that on top of the labor of pregnancy, deliver, breastfeeding and being the primary parent during those early months/years women also have to pay for the costs associated with all of this (less so after the child is born bc at least child support exists then). imo the costs of labor and delivery should be paid for by the bio father only as the woman is doing sweat equity. The sad thing is that a lot of guys just can't afford that, or aren't' willing to make the required sac…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 10:34 PM
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Dating apps are a business and like most things the customers are the men and the product is the women. I'm not sure I would want to participate in something where essentially I'm the commodity being sold and I don't get a cut, but to each their own. I see that they have a new wave of dating apps coming with all sorts of different wing dings... it's possible one of them will solve some key problems, but I doubt it. I did some hiring off this new TikTok style resume system where applicants must p…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 10:13 PM
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Hahaha... I love your links. This guy slept in a ceramic jar in the market? Now that's wild!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 10:02 PM
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I think this assumption says more about you than him.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 10:00 PM
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This just seems so devoid of empathy for these people. This couple is going through one of the hardest things you can I think it's just easy to believe addicts when they tell you that they don't do the hard stuff to gain your trust. It's something that people want to believe, and it's easy to fall for if you havn't been around people in that situation before.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 09:56 PM
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They may exist without a legal identity their entire lives. For those 18-28, you are talking about 6 years on average. Once they get hooked on opiates that's about how long they have to live.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 09:22 PM
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Your commentary on love as a feeling is hard hitting. The feeling of love is not productive. Love needs to be more than words, more than feelings. Love needs to be action. It needs to be a physical choice you make every day, and sometimes that choice is going to require you to put yourself second, and it's not going to be easy to do, but you must do it anyway no matter how hard. Anything less than that is just temporary madness. the woman is sacrificing her financial security in order to be preg…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 09:19 PM
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To be entirely blunt, it's all bullshit, just like marketing. It's designed to make something look much cooler than it actually is and make you want it. The thing is that a lot of women pursue self defeating and ridiculous dating strategies that are very easy to game. The fact that none of the guys under 30 even care to put in the effort to fake it anymore says something kind of profound about the quality of woman.... or maybe about the quality of man... or more likely both. I'm just going to bl…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 08:45 PM
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As a queer man, I'd be expected to stay in the closet my whole life. Tradition is lame. Now THAT makes sense. Allowing gay men to be open and break free of male gender norms is a huge benefit for everyone. It's clear to me that the stigma placed on gay men had an enormously detrimental effect on straight men as well, because it forced us to limit how closely we got with other male friends. I ran smack into that myself. Actually, it's still used against men as if being gay is some kind bad thing,…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 06:41 PM
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I just have to say, that this attitude and belief system is the problem men face today. The very idea that men's economic output only benefitted men flies in the face of literally ever piece of data we have from the past. It requires a level of inhuman stupidity and ignorance... so much so that it's very clear that the people who push this idea are only doing it to justify the oppression of young boys today! The real question is how much of women's income today is shared with men and children. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 06:29 PM
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The studies suggest it's traits indicative of high testosterone that will win out when women earn more. In addition, higher earning women are the most shallow individuals on the planet in terms of dating requirements. This is why they are more likely to find themselves with a cat than a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 06:12 PM
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Considering you are the first woman I've ever seen come out and say this... My guess is that probably women like you are 10% of the population or less. I don't think that's going to change anytime soon, or maybe ever. I don't think that it HAS to be this way, but the amount of social restructuring that would be required to make it work just isn't likely to be possible. I mean one of the key attractive traits in a man is his ability to control resources... and that's biological. The whole thing j…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 06:05 PM
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The question was more so more akin to, can you (as an example of a man) be happy if you had everything else you needed in a relationship if you never had sex with that person? I think most men are going to agree with me in saying that the reason this is occurring matters deeply. I don't think women are any different, in fact I suspect they are even less tolerant of no sex marriages in general unless they have some kind of medical issue. If your wife comes down with a medical condition that makes…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 04:47 PM
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I don't know. Let me put it to you in 14 year old boy terms. The skinny girls I knew tended to be flat and not particularly curvy. I also really liked taller women. The heavier girls tended to have more curves... and we are talking S curves not just the hourglass figure. So, it was those girls I found the most attraction to at the start. I had very little exposure to TV or media before age 12, my parents just didn't allow it. I think... I really think that media played as big of a role as my fri…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 04:36 PM
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how would this help you stay in power? The most enduring strategy for people in power to maintain that power is what the Roman's called "divide et impera" Divide and Conquer, or Divide and Rule. One Robber Baron of 1800s America once quipped "The best thing about poor people is you can pay one half to shoot the other half". I'm not sure that quote is real, or was propaganda, but either way the sentiment works. you'd have most men upset that they can't mate/partner. those men are less likely to c…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 04:29 PM
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I don’t know about that. Women were expected to get married and have kids but men are the ones who are specifically shamed for not having sex. I guess it just depends on the era and culture we are talking about. This is absolutely true for today. I think in the past, the celibate man who dedicated himself to religion had status. Actually Sir Isaac Newton was intensely proud of being celibate his whole life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 03:48 PM
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this is called intersectional feminism It's a fancy word for Realpolitik. I have read the works of feminists from the 1st wave and I know exactly how they felt about black people. It's only once those black people become politically exploitable do white feminists begin talking about "intersectionality". Just look at the scandal brewing with Robin DeAngelo. It seems she very likely plagiarized her entire body of work from a handful of African American undergraduates. White feminists have complete…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 03:44 PM
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I wouldn't expect a guy to keep randomly pointing out women he's attracted to for no reason. THIS is a very interesting point. Essentially you are thinking of these guys as treating you like a woman... when in actuality they are talking to you as if you were another man. If I'm talking to a woman who I am treating as a woman, then this is a request to be my wing. If I'm talking to another man, it's a check to see if my choice in women is divergent from the norm. This is how men formulate what th…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 03:09 PM
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You are changing your argument. I have been to those countries where women wear burkas. I've actually dated women from those cultures and I know what their lives are like. I know men who live in those culture and I know what dating and marriage is like for them... and I also know how powerful class distinctions are to them. The way you talk makes me feel like you don't have a fucking clue. The fact that life in the past was absolutely fucking brutal and difficult just proves the fact that in the…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 03:01 PM
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You are thinking about this all wrong. The advice you were given and how you took it don't match up, and that is essentially why you are struggling. Perhaps you lean asexual, or you haven't really spent time with a man that is highly attractive to you.... or it's possible your anxiety has gotten in the way of your feelings and enjoyment. A good relationship will have regular sex as a part of it. If this isn't happening then you are going to find yourself faced with all sorts of nasty problems in…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 02:25 PM
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That isn't a traditional gender role dynamic unless I'm reading this incorrectly. Traditionally the work of maintaining intimacy was on the wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 01:58 PM
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One of the more fascinating things you will find in our modern culture is the view we hold of Romeo and Juliette. I have no doubt that Shakespeare intended the story to land with women differently than it does with men, but at it's core the message is the dangers of lust based underaged romance. The danger of trying to choose your own wife. Modern people just don't seem to be able to get that message... it can't penetrate the stupidity of the modern brain. We see it as some great romance and tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 01:42 PM
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I gave you several very solid examples that prove your theory of history is simply incorrect. That the reality is class has always played the most impactful role in determining the rights and life trajectory of people and gender is not even secondary, it's tertiary. Tribe or ethnicity played a much larger role than gender in this as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 01:16 PM
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Men are more free than ever before to live outside traditional gender norms and roles, which is a direct by-product of feminists fighting for women. This only applies to Gay men, and even for them this is very limited. Actually, gender roles are not only more rigid today than ever before for men, it's also significantly harder to live up to them. For example, 80% of women will not date a man who makes less than they do... meanwhile women are consistently making more money than men. Now, you post…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 05:20 AM
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...no? "If you make it so white people aren't in charge of everything, then the only option is for black people to be in charge of everything!" See how ridiculous that is? If you say that you don't want white people in charge anymore, that means removing them from positions of power and replacing them with people who are not white. So, if there was a binary of ethnic groups then we know exactly who you would be putting in charge. This only seems ridiculous because we don't have an ethnic binary.…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 05:06 AM
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F. D. Signifier on YouTube His primary audience is women. The guy says openly racist stuff, and is SO political that it automatically turns most men off. This guy will not have any kind of long term positive effect. He's just another guy who profits from telling women shit they want to hear.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 04:53 AM
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Yeah because men are going to the right in droves, they didn't cared until it start to become a problem. I don't think they understand how big this is... because in the polling data the boys are calling themselves non-political, but they have a very strong preference. What I find the most interesting is that White and Hispanic boys are hard shifting the most, and dragging some black boys along with them. What has been holding the right back for decades is being entrenched among ethnic lines. I s…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 04:48 AM
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but men have already benefited as a by-product. How?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 04:40 AM
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Feminism has been unambiguously clear that the patriarchy hurts men and everyone stands to benefit from dismantling it. So, if Patriarchy is where men are in charge of things, then... Matriarchy is where women are in charge? Because if you dismantle the "Patriarchy" the only thing opposite that you can put in it's place would be Matriarchy. I can look at the Matriarchal systems we currently have and nothing is more horrible and oppressive to men. So, what I hear is that you us to join with them …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 04:39 AM
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You're attacking a straw man. Think about it. If you are in the .01% that actually wields power. What better way to maintain it, than by funding a group of man hating crazy bitches to lie to everyone? Not only do you get an army of fucking flying monkeys, but you also get to batter down the average man in a way that leaves him unable to gather together and resist... because it's not you oppressing him, it's the batshit crazy asshole women of his own class. It's really fucking brilliant if you st…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 04:32 AM
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Women didn’t have freedom, they were baby factories dying of childbirth and having their babies and kids die at an insane rate due to poor nutrition and living conditions. Do you think this is true of female nobility? The ancient Babylonian kings would install their daughters as Temple Priestesses and they would rule the Religious system with an iron fist. Male priests who crossed them could be demoted or fed to lions at her discretion. We have a very famous story that is recounted by several au…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 04:27 AM
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Look up the Theologian Peter Lombard. I'm not writing a thesis paper. I could give you all the citations in the world and it's not going to change your mind, because you didn't arrive at your conclusions from a logic for fact. For you this is simply something that justifies your sour disposition and hatred of men. I think it's important enough to point out that I know you are wrong, and you know that you are wrong. That is all.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 02:47 AM
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Women don't deserve traditional masculinity. Traditional masculinity is ruinous. Traditional masculinity doesn't put up with bullshit. If the majority of men become traditionally masculine, then we will change the laws and we will no longer be forced to tolerate the insanity. LOL fuck that. The idea of amassing power is moronic. Why are you catering to women who love the power and not the man? Great absolutely awesome way to supercharge the culture of women dating to swell their Instagram cred. …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 01:13 AM
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Let me give you an example. Have you ever wondered why in the East women marry whoever their parents set up for them, in more tribal situations you often marry the man who kidnaps or abducts you... ect. Yet, for seemingly 1000 years at least European women have been essentially picking their own husbands? So, the medieval catholic church, based on their interpretation of the Bible began implementing "exchange of consent" as the basis for marriage. The concept itself is revolutionary in a way tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 01:10 AM
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Someone that put together, and assuming we are close friends since he's asking my advice, I'd take him out myself to local hot spots and do my best to be a wing woman. I've done this with guys a lot over the years. If I've learned any one thing its that social anxiety and lack of confidence are almost always the primary issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 12:45 AM
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Online dating is just marketing. I think women tend to understand this inherently and the majority of men seriously don't get it. You have to think of yourself as a product or a brand to sell, and once you start to do that everything clicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 12:43 AM
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Men made the decisions, not women. And other men benefited, which is why they go along with it. This is not only incorrect, it displays childlike ignorance. I've never heard of a male-led and male-created feminist movement - have you? Ancient Greece had several, as did the Babylonians, Persians, Chinese. We know the Celts in at least 4 different places had an expansion of women's rights, as did the Vikings. Perhaps the most significant expansion of women's rights in world history was done by the…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 10:53 PM
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I'm still juggling two and deciding if I want to add in a third as a FWB. It's tempting because her personality and interests, but as a negative she also college age. Thank you for asking! I should add that after all that exposition. I feel the best choice for president at this time would be Harris. Trump has this chaos and uncertainty factor that I really dislike. While I don't like either of them... I dislike Harris a lot less. How is life treating you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 10:09 PM
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LOL... If you think men had agency and self-determination over the last 5,000 years of recorded history then you are horrifically ignorant on the subject. It means you don't understand the core structure of human society, nor do you understand why it's almost always structured in the same way all across the globe. In addition, "men" have never made a unilateral decision anywhere ever. Pretending that one man who is in power making a decision is the same as all men making that decision is sexist …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 10:02 PM
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Next thing you’ll tell me Kamala Harris is a communist, lmao. I can't really put Harris in a box. Her oft repeated quote "what can be, unburdened by what has been" is essentially a quote from Karl Marx, but when she tells the story it's coming through the coconut tree analogy and it's her mothers words, not Marx. I think the best way to understand Harris is to think of her as a blend of Caribbean Plantation Owner culture, with Hardline Brahmin Indian Caste System. This is why she does stuff like…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 09:51 PM
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You can get an ancestry test at a very young age. It just takes saliva. I have a friend who waited until his son was 4 because before that he couldn't get the kid to spit into the tube, but either way it doesn't matter. To my thinking if a woman has a fling or something behind my back and I never know about it... the harm done is low. If I go through life thinking a child is mine and it isn't... that is a physical and psychological violation that has no equal. So, even when you are 100% sure you…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 09:34 PM
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The most common reason for someone to ask for a DNA test is to determine ancestry, and predisposition to medical ailments. So far we have about 40 million people having done testing for these two reasons in the US alone... that's over 10% of the population. I've never seen a woman throw a fit over this kind of test... except once, and that turned out to be for a damn good reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 08:07 PM
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I've said this once and I will say it again. I did a DNA test on both my daughter, myself, and her mom, plus my grandmother, and both of my parents for the purpose of determining ancestry. Nobody threw a fit about this, and if someone does... that's a big fucking red flag. Straight up, any woman who throws a fit over DNA testing has been doing some shit on the down low.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:55 PM
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I just don't see why OP insists liberal men can't have muscles. But I won't bother engaging with him on those points because he is clearly just PO'd at this specific Tik Tok girl I have a position where I fit into social circles of both ideological groups... and I typically date very liberal women. What I see is that men tend to self select into these groups. Men who fit into traditionally masculine molds are much more likely to move conservative, and thus they value lifting weights and things l…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:17 PM
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Something like 13% of men failed to have sex last year for whatever reason. That means almost 9/10 guys are dating and having sex just fine. We are talking about social standing and economics, and sex is downstream of those things. So we can just ignore that as a topic. I'm a lot less interested in who is getting laid than I am who is getting into STEM courses, who is getting promoted at work, and who is being given socially positive messaging.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:12 PM
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What we think of as Looks isn't 100% genetic. A lot of it comes down to self care routines, access to good fashion, time to spend at the gym, healthy eating habits. Poor men do not tend to have any of these things going on. I had a big jump in attractiveness when I got my teeth redone in veneers after a motorcycle wreck. It cost $12,000 at the time and is closer to $20,000 today. Think about how much money women spend on ass implants, breast implants... a ton of those really hot women you see on…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:08 PM
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Yes, and that makes perfect sense when you think about it. You know that they release polling data on men who cannot get dates and found that about 75% of them were raised in liberal households and 50% of them currently hold ideologically left leaning views. Just slightly over 10% report being raised in conservative homes, and 25% report having conservative leaning views. I think that data can be interpreted many different ways, and also it doesn't identify a cause, but the data is very interest…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:00 PM
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Redistribute the means of reproduction! In the US women are very much flirting with communism, which has an almost 200 year history of eventually deciding that child production is a resource and that the government thus has a right to distribute it as they see fit. I once read a story of how Mao had something like 3000 girls, many under 16 that he kept as lovers/concubines. Of course the PRC doesn't like this story, but it's been confirmed by multiple sources including some of the women. Lenin, …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:55 PM
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Life always has losers. It sucks, but that’s a fact of life. The number of losers is way too high and increasing way too rapidly. Also, any culture/society that treats their losers as poorly as we do, does not deserve to survive. Eventually, we will get what we get that experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:46 PM
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It's relevant to your social status, which is relevant to your sexual appeal. Additionally, if you spend 8 years in a system that daily shits on you, tells you that you aren't good enough, and kills your future success... that will destroy your confidence which is also an essential element of sex appeal. So, even guys who think female attraction is all Looks, Money, Status... failing at work and school destroys all three of those. You won't have the money to upkeep your looks, you won't have mon…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:41 PM
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You mean why did Julius Caesar fight for the rights of Plebs? The answer is typically power. The guys who want to monetize it are useless, because they just want to make their money and then dip out. The men who seek power understand that money and power are not one in the same. Jack Ma was one of the richest men in the world, and he probably got to thinking that gave him some power, until Chairman Xi imprisoned him, beat his ass, and took his company away. We want someone who actually cares abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:37 PM
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Like all things, there is a certain amount of truth in the statement. If I think about political ideology with the men I know and how well they do with women... the most successful and the least successful are my very liberal friends. By far the largest group are the unsuccessful guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:29 PM
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Are you saying the sisterhood is narcissistic and emotionally manipulative because women aren't enmass pressuring each other to date... you? Men more like you, and less like the men they are dating? I think it's easy to try and push this back onto OP. That's a very lazy way to avoid addressing the real question. Do female friend networks tend to sabotage otherwise good relationships with decent men? From what I see, some do, some don't, and it really is heavily impacted by the type of friends yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:24 PM
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In the Red Pill we have kind of conditioned ourselves to think of it as a women choosing stupidly issue. However, what if you are looking at the problem all wrong? What if it's instead the complete and utter cratering of masculinity among normie men? If you think of power and status as being sexy... and your average normie male is a hyper submissive, zero status guy. Maybe what needs to happen is average men need to band together and collectively put their feet down on Feminism HARD. Once your a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:10 PM
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Wait... why are those 10 million ex-cons and 1million sex offenders not options for women? I don't think I've ever met a guy with a serious criminal record that didn't have kids. I think the guys who aren't options are the socially awkward guys who aren't doing well at school or work. Really though the whole topic is difficult to quantify. I mean 80% of women say they want a man who makes more money than they do. So, we make this assumption that this is a hard line they won't cross, but in my ow…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 05:39 PM
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There are pro's and con's to everything, and dating older women definitely has a lot on the pro side, but it also tends to have some negatives as well. I just suggest that any guy who jumps into this kind of relationship do so with a full understanding of the dynamics that they are getting into.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 05:28 PM
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First, he's talking about PPD women not IRL women. Second, these situations usually come down to people just talking past each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 03:09 AM
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That isn't really true. The inherent power difference in the dating system means it's not really mutual in that way. The dynamic is most often like an employer interviewing you. Your whole thought process skips all the steps required to build attraction... only then does it become mutual, which is why women are almost clueless about the process.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 02:42 AM
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LOL... you are talking to a bunch of guys, this is basically our daily experience in the country. If your wife falls down and gets any kind of major injury they are going to assume right up front that the man is a abuser.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 04:49 AM
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which is kinda fucked right? It's 100% stupid. like if each person gets their discretionary money every month and the guy buys fishing poles and beer (or a boxing gym membership and MMA fight entry fees -- whatever) and the other partner saves theirs, why would the spouse that already spent their money get to enjoy the discretionary money the other person saved? YES! It's stupid for just this exact reason. This is kind of a radical idea, but we need to create a whole new raft of 10 or more diffe…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 02:46 AM
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God. Damnit. I really hoped it would have ended differently. It sounds like one of those cheesy love stories, but in a good way. I know the guy she married pretty well. He went to University with me. She actually met him when she came out to visit one time sophomore year. His great grandfather started a beverage company back in the early 1900s that was eventually purchased by Coca Cola. He is tall, like 6'3" and very athletic. His family didn't have tons of money anymore, but the name is very re…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 10:59 PM
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I don't think you can make that jump. For one thing it's a contract. You actually have to care about him and his life. You can't just demand everyone care about you and not reciprocate. I find this attitude very common where I live today, both men and women have it. They expect everyone to care about them without caring about anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 10:37 PM
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You can't hold a secret stash of money apart from your spouse unless it was mutually agreed upon in a prenup, at which point it isn't secret. I think this might help you do something like move out, or be something you can use short term, but it's going to hurt your case to a judge and you are going to have to split it as a marital asset. Maybe a divorce attorney may have a more informed view, but that's my hot take on the question. I don't see much of this in common with paternity testing, which…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 08:31 PM
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Is this some kind of rude attempt at a personal dig? If so, you’re either ignorant or just classist. So let me explain, since you apparently don’t know anyone who lives in a city, In cities, space for a lot of families is very limited because it is so expensive. Many many people live in studio apartments or a one bedroom apartment, and cannot afford an apartment with space for additional bedrooms. And since, at least in general American culture, it’s considered inappropriate for the whole family…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 08:16 PM
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With that said, I was constantly rejected, and sometimes terribly. So, it's not like it was easy. Teenage boys as a general rule are some of the worst human beings you will ever meet.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 05:45 AM
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And male losers are not usually doing that for any women because they lack the confidence. My friend was definitely a loser, and he got shot down by the most overweight and least attractive girl in school. I remember she told him that he wasn't her type... which blew my mind at age 16 because I didn't think she could have a type. Maybe he was too tall and skinny. He went on to be one of the guys who created Hulu. Weird taste in women though... spent 10 years with a woman 30 years older than him.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 05:43 AM
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There are many women who are like I was. You just don't see them. I had a crush on this girl that was a huge loser as a teen. I was too afraid to tell her. I really thought she would shoot me down. Actually... she probably would have shot me down. LOL. Also, I had this female friend who was really overweight. Best personality of any girl in the school, smart, witty, kind, outgoing... ect. She gave me a love letter senior year by slipping it into one of my books. I brought it back to her after I …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 05:40 AM
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rent (you pay more to have enough space for a bedroom), daycare costs, or healthcare costs. Wait? You don't already have a bedroom? Daycare is what I meant when most of the cost goes to the mom. I've had so many family members abused or molested in daycare... fuck that place. My cousin is basically fucked for life because the daycare workers used to light matches and then put it out on his penis... a 2 year old boy! He's had a lifetime of therapy and still just never feels comfortable around peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 05:14 AM
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No, I keep a tight account of how much money get's spent on her. Two bags of baby clothes from a craiglist type app for $140 lasted the entire year. Crib, baby gate, changing table, baby monitor, Rocking swing, baby bouncer, pak'n play.... and a few other items were all provided as gifts along with a lot more clothes. A second changing table for my house cost $20. I got $2,000 back on my taxes. The highest cost was diapers for about $90 a month. Babies are dirt cheap. Do not spend ridiculous mon…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 04:57 AM
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I don't want to get into too many personal details, but her mom is very much on the frugal side, and everything was second hand. The first 3 years were very cheap.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 12:26 AM
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Kamala Harris is a step mother Was hand picked because she does whatever she is told. Wields zero power or influence. Pete Buttigieg served in the Armed Forces before he had children was that no value to society? Not a childless cat lady. Perhaps one of the most popular Democrats in the US. Does Oprah, Condaleeza Rice, Angela Merkel, various Nobel prize winners and laureates contribute nothing simply because they haven’t carried a child inside their body? If you want a fantastic leader who never…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 10:05 PM
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4th degree tears are about 1-3% of first time mothers, but this is almost always the rectum. I can't remember the stats but clitoral tears are very rare... and I think women who don't control gestational diabetes are at the highest risk. Also.... and I don't think people know this... white women have babies with significantly larger heads regardless of who the father is. My sister has a kid that's half african and despite the fact that they tend to have the smallest head size as babies... her ki…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 08:52 PM
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What he said was 100% correct, and he was talking about feminists WHO HATE CHILDREN AND FAMILIES! Why in the fuck would you let people like that be in charge of policy for kids? So, essentially he is says "We should not let the KKK set policy the affects Black People".. and dipsticks like you pop off with.. "He hates white people!" No... he hates the Klan, who you obviously love, so now we all know where you are coming from.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 08:26 PM
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I will say it. I am selfish. Respect! Not everyone needs to have kids. Find the other connections that bring you joy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 08:21 PM
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It also permanently changed my body in ways I don’t like. Men don’t have to worry about any of this. Stretch marks? I was a college athlete and I did that for a 75% and then later 50% tuition break. The thing is that in the process I permanently damaged my shoulder. I have shoulder pain all the time, and it can't be fixed with surgery. I think there are some things that pregnancy can definitely do to you, but I break them into categories like visual changes, permanent pain... ect. If I'm going t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 08:20 PM
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I think a much bigger issue is that men are permanently treated like predators when around young children. Plenty of guys will deal with low pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 08:04 PM
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women with partners and children also share their incomes and don't keep it to themselves. I think this only applies to children. If you have ever worked in the service industry, then it's well known that women generally don't tip. I've known some women who were incredibly generous, but that's because they worked in service themselves at some point. I've never really seen a woman just share her income with a man unless the man is insanely better looking than her and wouldn't stick around otherwi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 08:02 PM
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Even 100 years ago this wasn't really a thing. For the most part women had primary control over the domestic sphere. This is why so many guys became drunks and abusive... they felt completely powerless in every aspect of their lives. The one thing I hate about feminists more than anything is their absolute full blown dishonesty and lies about the past, and how they use this bullshit to justify opression of men today. I remember having this conversation with one years back and I finally had to st…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 07:33 PM
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I don’t know where you live, but everywhere I look the currency to pay bills, eat and generally live, is money. Again, relationships don’t pay the bills so gotta get back to work You are thinking about this all wrong... Relationships do pay, and they often times pay better than what you get from a regular employer... and they also pay in a currency that isn't money. But I suppose with your thinking if the employer shows up and says "Suck my dick or you are fired".... better get some good chap st…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 07:15 AM
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That depends on what currency you value most. The people who value dollars over relationships are shitty. Do you aspire to be a person like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 06:55 AM
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you have no idea how terrifying it is to be a woman in general. I've been thinking a bit about this over time. The women who are today in their 70s, I knew them well 30 some years ago and they weren't terrified. In fact they took risks that were just dumb as hell looking back on it.... and they lived in a WAY more dangerous time. How much of you being terrified is just personal delusion and how much is justified? Don't me wrong here, I basically don't trust anyone, unless I'm practically forced …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 06:48 AM
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Performing sexual acts on a specific person that can't be refused can't be considered a reasonable requirement of any job especially when this was not advertised and is targeted at specific people while others aren't expected to do Most jobs require you to do all kinds of stuff that are not in the job description and aren't reasonable. I've got friends who worked at Amazon and most of the women there would much rather have sucked a dick than go through the bullshit that place puts onto employees…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 06:41 AM
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Why would you expect the women to be conservative? Conservative (college educated) women have become pretty rare. Even the seemingly traditional, conventionally attractive sorority girls I dated in college were all liberal. I don’t mean like radical liberals, but democratic voting, pro-choice, etc. Yeah, maybe conservative is the wrong word. I basically just mean not one of those Woke Cultists out there waving a Hamas flag chanting death to the Jews while also claiming Trump is the next Hitler. …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 01:20 AM
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What are you stopping from say yes? Is it your ego that men itself cannot be degraded by sex in any terms because it's always women who is degraded and lose value? Or you just regret that analogy you talk about the "dominant" and "submissive role" to rationalize that women are degraded since she is playing a submissive role while not realizing there are lots of men who love to be sexually submissive to women around one thirds? I think you are talking about something very complicated and that you…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 10:35 PM
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Comfortable with himself = Confidence. What I really hate about the Blue Pill folks is how they communicate things to young impressionable boys. I WAS one of those boys once, and their messaging is so damaging. I think when I was a kid a lot of Blue Pillers were Religious, but today they are almost exclusively feminists. This idea that women want emotional vulnerability in a man... it's just so poorly communicated that I think they do it on purpose. Do you know how this played out in my marriage…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 09:57 PM
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Sure, but think about it like this... how many guys would sleep with Jodi Arias? I mean maybe they would take the risk, but you gotta fuck her while she holds a knife and you have all your cash sitting on the nightstand next to the bed. Would you take that deal?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 09:47 PM
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A 6'5 man with blonde hair and blue eyes does not have to be approachable. Smiling would not make an average, black man approachable. This is tone deaf These two guys are going to be attractive to different women. The tall white guy is going to pull conservative Asian and White women primarily. The black guy is going to fucking kill it with left wing white women, latinas, black women... as long as he can stand out from other black men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 09:43 PM
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But seriously, there are masculine ways of moving and women will lose attraction to you if you don't move in those ways. There is a reason Mister Rogers wasn't a sex symbol in the 1970s, and that guy is fucking hyper masculine compared to the soy boys I see today.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 09:37 PM
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I think you need to go back and ask her some follow up questions, because you are missing the big picture here. Is she siting attraction to movement because of the physical flow of it, or because what she assumes it says about his personality, or because of what it may suggest about his status? People need to stop talking past each other and if you want to understand what women are talking about... you need to force them to get detailed, otherwise they just drop ridiculous shit like this and the…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 09:02 PM
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It depends on the age. Older guys like me are much more likely to have better looking partners than ourselves. It's reversed in younger men. Just talked to this guy at the Home Depot yesterday who I thought was shopping with his mom... and turned out it was his GF. Lucky I didn't say anything. People who actually partner up through apps tend to be very similar in look. People who meet in person or through friends... much more varied in who looks good. Studies show this to be true as well. Also, …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 08:54 PM
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The guys who say this have never done pickup, or they have done the lazy bullshit type where they basically just walk up to a woman and ask for sex, then get rejected. Old school Red Pill used to describe this as "Frame" as in your frame of mind. The first thing is be non-threatening, and the best way to do this is to have a fun and playful energy. Only once that is established can you actually begin building attraction... and for a small handful of women that IS a big part of the attraction... …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 08:46 PM
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Actually, there is this thing where brothers marry the same woman. It tends to bond the men together, and typically the woman finds it less favorable than a multiple wife situation, but that's with old gender roles involved. If I remember it was Tibet or a culture nearby it. So there is a word for this... I just don't remember it. It's a form of Polyandry but less formal.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 04:24 AM
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Please explain how it's inappropriate to answer "when/how" with "when/how." Please also explain how answering "when/how" with "when/how" is controlling and abusive. Men wanna be victims so badly OMG Stop being a dick. There are a lot of guys out there who will listen to the junk you say and take it seriously. If you tell them to kill themselves... they will actually start thinking about it. If you want to tell guys to be BETTER on approach that is very helpful. A lot of guys don't know how to do…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 11:29 PM
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Poly? Or just trying out new things?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 11:07 PM
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Your examples are pretty extreme, the first being rape, and the second being just weird. Yeah, but it happens and women need to be aware of it because it almost always plays out like a gangrape rather than a pro being paid a bunch of money to service a group of guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 11:04 PM
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Moderate Unease? I had this happen to a friends little sister. Her parents over sheltered her... like way over sheltered. The first chance she got she's 17 and sneaking around with a boy from the football team of a nearby university. They started sleeping together, but you know she can only sneak out of the house a few times a month and he's clearly got other girlfriends. Anyway one time he takes her out and they show up at a house with 20 of his team mates... and he full court presses her to sl…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 11:01 PM
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Um... I've seen this stuff happen before and it's typically used as an extreme male bonding ritual. So, you are going to see this in gangs, athletic teams, frats... ect. That's the core of it. In old times, this was super common among military soldiers after taking a civilian area. In the bronze age and before the soldiers would pick a pretty boy to share, but in more modern times choosing women came more into fashion. Some places the soldiers still prefer boys. The only place I've ever encounte…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 10:42 PM
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Not all answers are appropriate. I mean if someone asks your thoughts on Oct 7th and you just respond with "I hate Jews".... someone needs to point out to you that this is not an acceptable way to think. If you prefer not to be approached, I get that. Nothing wrong with that. If you tell men they shouldn't approach women... that's hateful and not an acceptable way to think.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 06:29 PM
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Our counselors were super helpful for some things. But my female friends and I all got asked whether we wanted to get married and have kids...my male friends did not. On the one hand, I can see how a desire to have a family might impact the kind of career you WANT, but on the other hand it doesn't affect the kind of career you can have. So, I think I would judge the question based on what came after it rather than on the question itself. As for my experience. I was one of the school top scores f…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 06:25 PM
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At the top it's usually about 50/50, but as a whole most government agencies are 60%-90% women. The IRS for example is about 75% female.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 06:07 PM
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As a man, any interaction with police could lead to serious damage or death. That is what I'm talking about. There have been situations where police come by your house to collect a witness statement that leads to negative outcomes. Also, I don't have time to make witness statements. It's just better to not get involved all together. Most men don't trust law enforcement and for good reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 05:41 PM
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Polite rejection is good for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 05:10 PM
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Polite rejection is good for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 05:09 PM
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Trying to tell men who they can talk to and when, is abusive controlling behavior. How about we start telling women when they can talk to people and when they can't? Your mindset is that of an oppressive abusive person.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 05:09 PM
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Trying to tell men who they can talk to and when, is abusive controlling behavior. How about we start telling women when they can talk to people and when they can't? Your mindset is that of an oppressive abusive person.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 05:09 PM
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Trying to tell men who they can talk to and when, is abusive controlling behavior. How about we start telling women when they can talk to people and when they can't? Your mindset is that of an oppressive abusive person.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 05:08 PM
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Trying to tell men who they can talk to and when, is abusive controlling behavior. How about we start telling women when they can talk to people and when they can't? Your mindset is that of an oppressive abusive person.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 05:08 PM
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Bro anytime Henry Superman Cavill says he not taking the risk of approaching a woman in fear of a sexual harassment charge than obviously there’s a precedent for it He is a celebrity. Most women come to him. Also, his reputation is his career, so even rumors can cost him millions and millions. You are not Henry Cavill.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 04:59 PM
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Pushing back on what?? Being expected to behave in public and treat woman as people? This whole "don't approach women in public spaces" is a power trip for low quality women. Men need to just slap this shit down very hard. Talking to people is one thing, harassing them is something else Men should follow the law, and be polite. Any guy who responds in anger at polite rejection needs to be slapped in the face.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 04:56 PM
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I'm a totally different person today. I also wound up in an abusive controlling relationship. I don't think that I would be a healthy person for her to be with in a romantic capacity, but I do miss the friendship. Sometimes people just miss one another, and that's how life goes. I'm wealthy and happy. I know she remarried 4 years ago. By some freak twist of fate I'm in touch with the woman her new husband is having a long term affair with...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 04:53 PM
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I can tell you a couple of things that have a large long term impact. The first is that if everyone around you is dating, but you get treated like you are invisible, that winds up being a huge hit to your self confidence. So big in fact that you are going to find boys just pulling into themselves and shutting down, or jumping at the first girl who bats her eyelashes at him and winding up dealing with an abusive relationship. The second part is that boys develop slower than girls. A 16 year old g…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 04:38 PM
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And I understand the appeal of the first group. I don't however understand the appeal of the second, but it is visible even in adult life. Power in any form is sexy to one woman or another.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 04:24 PM
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When friends have expressed their feelings for me, I felt guilt. Guilt in my inability to reciprocate, for hurting their feelings, for turning them down. I found out years after that one of my best friends who I was madly in love with, was also madly in love with me too. We completely missed each other because I was so absolutely convinced that I was in the friendzone that I missed every single sign... like bright neon flashing signs. She wound up marrying this crazy abusive guy. She had to basi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 04:21 PM
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But if he wants to have some success, he should be with a group of friends instead of a loner seeking a person or group to attach himself to without a welcome. This almost never get's mentioned, but it's so important and is amazing advice. Also, what you say about safety should be top of any guys mind. Those guys who think they need to come across as severe and intimidating in order to be perceived as masculine are not helpful. It's much more important to be warm, calm, fun, and kind. Well, actu…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 04:02 PM
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Actually, No we don't have to comply with this power play. If you don't want to talk to people stay in your house. A few years back this social media influencer lady got a guy tossed out of a gym for "staring" at her. The problem is that he is legally blind. So we know this bullshit is just a power play. One of the things we used to teach guys in the Red Pill are the local and state laws, also lawyers who specialize in these kinds of things. The law is actually on a man's side as long as he is p…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 03:50 PM
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Going forward a man should only start a conversation with a woman if she’s giving clear choosing signals. Good fucking luck with that! Reputational hits and loss of freedom? You shouldn't be doing anything illegal. Talking to women isn't illegal. If you think approaching a woman means whipping out your dick or something... you have serious issues and yeah you shouldn't be approaching anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 03:36 PM
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Let me ask you this. It's 100% legal to approach women in almost all spaces at all times. So, why are we even listening? We know this is one of the best ways to meet women and a critical skill to have in your arsenal. You are going to find in life that women will always try to force you to live on their terms and it's your job... no actually it's your duty to say NO and live how you want. This is about power and control for them. By boxing you into a tiny little corner it allows them to cut you …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 03:22 PM
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Anyone telling you “don’t approach me here” is giving you their personal perspective and there’s is probably going to be another person who would love to be approached there. These women tend to come in only about 3 or 4 shades. Liars, misandrists, nutjobs, and married women. This is why it's pretty much safe to ignore the shit advice of not approaching, because the women who say this are mostly pushing a power play.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 03:18 PM
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Ok, yeah, Education is a weird job with an odd pay structure and extremely variable working conditions. I don't know many happy people who work in the industry, except one or two university professors. Doing Restaurant work is actually pretty cool. It's low pay though. I had a photography company. I usually made about $200 an hour on the weekends. I did a couple weddings, but I didn't like it even though the money was very good. I worked with fashion and modeling for about 2 years, I didn't like…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 07:38 AM
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I don't think it's required, but we do have some laws to protect people who report incidents. It's called a Good Samaritan law, but they have serious limitations.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 07:15 AM
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I drove an ambulance when I was in my last year of college. Nobody laughs at a pedestrian struck by a motor vehicle. I promise that if you had seen this situation before, you wouldn't joke about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 07:13 AM
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Because for us, every single interaction with the police could wind up with very negative all the way to lethal consequences. I suppose if you are a woman you never have to worry or think about it. I'm not going to take the risk unless I'm very clearly out of the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 07:11 AM
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Sure, you can go ahead and look out for other women. I don't have the obligation to do that, and I'd just rather not take the risk unless I know the situation very well.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 07:08 AM
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The Red Pill has always been sort of enamored with the idea that we need to dial back whatever it is that women are doing. I think from the very beginning a lot of guys had this idea that we should go back to traditional relationship models. I felt that was maybe correct too years and years ago. However, now that I have really thought about it hard, and looked at it from multiple angles, I have come to a different conclusion. While I think women have done well economically, I don't think that wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 06:57 AM
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You know it really depends on the circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 01:06 AM
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No, the core pieces of her personality are shared by millions of men... particularly the guys who complain constantly about how unfair things are. My sister's main complaint is that I was given success and she wasn't because the wider family loved me more as a boy. But what she fails to see is that I overcame my own laziness while she totally embraced it. My mom did everything for her, everything! It didn't start out that way though. I pushed myself to become independent despite the fact that it…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 01:04 AM
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Women are contradictory enigma You just need to use emotional logic and then it makes sense. Emotions have an almost mathematical logic to them once you have enough experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 11:28 PM
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Career: granted, the career counselors sucked at my high school for many reasons. But we were discouraged from picking careers that were seen as for men, or ones that were perceived as getting in the way of getting married and having babies. If I had had that kind of support, my life would be very different. LOL... support from career counselors? How old are you? These people have always been worthless... absolutely worthless except way, way back when they first started up. My counselor told me …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 11:19 PM
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That being said, I know my individual life would have been better if I'd been born male. My sister says this stuff too, but I think she is delusional. She has the personality type of the most extreme loser men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 11:12 PM
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Well, we pay people to deal with that stuff and they are called police. It's nobody else's business and we shouldn't be bothered with it. I learned a long time ago that when there is domestic abuse of some sort going on, you just don't get involved. The woman will do something about it when she has had enough and the resources are all there and easily available. The only people men have an obligation to look out for are children, and in some circumstances, other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 11:04 PM
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Have you ever sat down and read a bunch of women's fantasy? I mean the really smutty stuff?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 10:58 PM
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Your analogy is flawed in many ways. Picking a companion based on good enough? Worse yet one that views YOU as good enough. Everyone should be valued. This advice ONLY applies to people who are realistic and self aware. Most people need to be told exactly how stupid their criteria are and how fucking insanely shallow and ridiculous their demands seem to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 07:56 PM
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Women don't have to because they are coming from a position of power and abundance. Men are almost entirely disenfranchised and this language is an outgrowth of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 07:45 PM
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Nobody tell red pillers about shapeshifter erotica. Their heads would explode. We know about it. Some of the male love interests are essentially serial killers. This genre has some wild stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 07:39 PM
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Are we suggesting that women are entitled to men's protection? I mean most guys today are just not going to get involved. That's the current social contract isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 07:13 PM
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I don't know why men never stop to think WHY women initiate divorce. I'm 34 and a mom. So I've seen it a lot, and know tons of women thinking about it. This is actually a lot deeper discussion than what you think. A lot of these women are just shitty moms and shitty partners. You have to negotiate these things in a marriage and communicate them properly... and then give up some control. A good chunk of these women are just total fucking control freaks who are incompetent at both relationships an…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 05:41 PM
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What you are saying is that being single is better than being in a bad relationship. I think that depends on how bad the relationship was, and based on the things you value it sounds like yours really sucked. I think it's not good for kids to have such a horrible relationship with their father. The freedom to just do whatever you want is not that great, especially when having two jobs... that sounds like slave drudgery. Don't get me wrong, I've worked two jobs before... but that second job was a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 05:10 PM
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Hmm that’s weird that men think sleeping with a lot of women makes them better in some way but yet they think when women sleep with lots of men it degrades them. That's because you are thinking about low intimacy sex from a woman's standpoint. They have told you before that rape is not about sex, but instead about power and control? Most men cannot articulate this, but a woman who has had sex with lots of men can be dominated and controlled by anyone. It means her status is very, very low. It ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 01:46 AM
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This is why I try not to smile or be overly polite to strange men. I sometimes don't even make eye contact. I don't wanna them obsess or think about me. I think this is the best choice, it also helps when you are in a relationship to keep men with bad intentions from coming after you. Just keep in mind that you don't want to be impolite or rude. I've always found that bubbly outgoing women run into the most issues with this... which is sad. I try to tell people all the time that by basically tak…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 01:22 AM
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My brother is the biggest whore I know and sleeps with people he just met then worries about the consequences later. We were raised by the same parents and are close in age so I think it’s our society that is letting men think hookup culture is okay. So, it greatly depends on your cultural background. Men are driven to this kind of behavior through multiple different pathways, and because of that it can be hard to guide a guy out of it. I think a lot of the highly attractive guys who get lots of…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 12:35 AM
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This is the ideal way to deal with such problems! I wish more people could take your approach and put their own issues aside.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 12:04 AM
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No government in the world has tried this yet, but I think it is only a matter of time for some of the more authoritarian states. Putin has tried all of the old soviet bullshit and it's not working... I think he will do something drastic in the next few years. Xi actually wants the population to drop I think... probably believes he can control China easier with fewer people.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 11:41 PM
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A lot of men think they are competing with other men. In reality men are competing with the comfort of women's single life. More often than either of those, it's the fantasy of the man she believes she deserves that guys are competing against. Single life isn't that great for most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 11:39 PM
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Imagine having people put so little attention into you that even a tiny bit becomes deeply meaningful. That idea just strikes me as sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 11:14 PM
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That has to be so difficult. I've emotionally detached so much that I just can't get to a point where I care about anyone. I think the two extremes of this just really suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 11:13 PM
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In my opinion the core problem is hookup culture. However, the problem is really two fold. I think a lot of women are sold on the idea of being able to sleep with a man and not be shamed by others or feel ashamed about it. What isn't understood is that almost every single time if a woman sleeps with a guy who has not developed some emotional connection to... then she has just participated willingly in her own sexual objectification. The weird part is that most women feel this, they really feel i…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 10:33 PM
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.... PG_Throwaway just agreed with me? I'm screenshotting this!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 07:55 PM
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If I were to only talked to women like how I talked to men, which I do so this is speaking from experience, I would never ask them out or for their number since I don't do this with other men. Bro, it's the same thing. You just chit chat about something... even the bloody weather. The difference comes in when you give her a compliment about something... usually not a physical attribute and ask if she would like to continue the conversation at a later time. I literally watched my big chubby hyper…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 07:36 PM
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They are the most unfriendly buggers in the world as far as I can tell. Almost as bad as the Scandinavians which might be where it comes from. I didn't realize how bad it was until my daughter was born and she is super outgoing. Time after time she would come up to make friends with some other girl and they would just pretend like she doesn't exist. It really got her down years ago and made her feel like there was something wrong with her. I got so pissed I started saying to the kid in a soft bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 07:26 PM
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I will side with the red pill on this. Men should not care if their initial flirting, approaching and any kind of "shooting their shot" (that isn't assault) makes women uncomfortable. I thought about this a lot. The fear is actually very real now due to cameras and social media. I think if we made it illegal to shame people for being awkward in public... some kind of change to libel laws... or a new category in defamation should fix this. The big benefit is that you could sue the shit out of tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 07:13 PM
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I learned all this stuff by doing cold approach. What I didn't realize in my youth is that the thoughts going through my head created an.... an energy or what the folks now days call a vibe. When it was negative people could sense it and I was rarely attractive despite how good I looked. I actually would have women interested just looking at me, but in a short time even saying all the right things they would not want to see me again. One of my best friends was always great with women and althoug…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 07:07 PM
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My point is that predictable access to sex defeats porn use in almost all cases. It's the unpredictability part that keeps guys trapped in the cycle.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 06:26 PM
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Every relationship needs to have these things negotiated. I'm just saying that women with high libidos will absolutely crush porn use for the vast majority of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 06:24 PM
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Of course they care about equality! Thing is though they only care about equality when it benefits them. If they're behind they want equality to get ahead, and if they're ahead they don't want equality. They just assume by default men never need equality because men always have it all. Equality is a lie feminists are using to trick most people. Same with the historical subjugation of women narrative. I think you and I see through this... at some point they will have enough power to take control.…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 04:58 PM
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Look, if you are dating a high libido woman, she is going to want more sex than you can physically perform. If you are jerking off... then you won't be able to keep up and will wind up dumped super fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 04:54 PM
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Physical abuse is the number one reason, and I believe number two is the partner not putting in enough effort. Still... the divorce rate even for lesbians is WAY lower than for straight people. Also... and this is interesting. If a lesbian has a baby the divorce rate is almost 80%. The suspicion is that the partner who had a baby wants to get a man to help out with the child, but it's generally unknown why this happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 04:53 PM
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Then that guy has other issues... like serious issues. High libido women will take most of the effort out. The big thing for most guys is the timing issue, not the physical movement of bodies. I know guys that struggle with simply the physical aspect of sex, but it's because they are very fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 04:51 PM
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All these women settling, yet guys can't get a girlfriend? Does not add up. This is a numbers game. What percentage of women are willing to settle?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 04:47 PM
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That was what happened to me. Took me about a year to kick it, and it was harder than almost any other addiction I've ever dealt with. I was also ending an alcohol addiction at the same time... and honestly porn was the harder of the two. Maybe, that's just me. During that year I actually had to multi-date 3 different women concurrently in order to get enough sex to stave off the porn addiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 04:16 PM
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Sugar addiction is a great example! The problem with sugar addictions is that at least for me, almost all carbs add fuel to it. I also get addicted quick. So, the way I handle this is by eliminating all carbs from my diet for a week, and then not buying any at the store. If there are some in my house... I toss them out. I make sure that I'm damn rigid with everyone in my life... I've got a family full of food pushers who think being chubby is healthy. But to the point. No matter how high a man's…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 04:12 PM
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Is she really HL then? I've been with High Libido women and jerking off to porn is just not possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 11:48 PM
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For what purpose?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 11:46 PM
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Where do men who have partners that want to have sex with them, yet they still can’t kick the point addiction fit into this? My biggest issue with porn ever was during my marriage. Her sex drive tanked in year two and I responded by watching porn. Eventually porn was easier and better than jumping through all the fucking hoops to get her into it. It had turned into a really bad addiction at one point and then... BAM. I got divorced and didn't need porn anymore. So, I think you are going to find …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 11:46 PM
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Soooooo much of what I see online from manosphere places is capitulation. "Enjoying the decline" type stuff. ... and fine, I can appreciate a pyrrich victory as much as the next guy. There are two parts to this problem. The first is that we are entirely powerless in the situation. All we can do is to change ourselves, and if the women around us are garbage... then we must either dumpster dive for something acceptable, or learn to enjoy trash. Let me tell you that the way to be successful at life…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 11:40 PM
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"We're a generation of men raised by women. I'm wondering if another woman is really the answer we need." That was very true of our era. If you made that quote today it would look like: "We're a generation of men raised to be women" I actually read the stuff feminists write in their books and college papers. The goal of the movement from the top has never been equality, it's always been supremacy. Equality is just the lie they use to disarm men. The idea is to replace men in power with women in …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 11:21 PM
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Is it really so much to ask that women actually think about what their boy needs unique to him rather than just trying to hammer him into a being a fucking girl?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 06:27 PM
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If you look at the situation that Augustus came into, and how Rome looked when he died, you can see that perhaps of all his reforms this was maybe one of his biggest. Rome had been constantly wracked by civil war and chaos in the streets. I have often wondered how important these reforms were to creating the Pax Romana time period that made the Roman empire last another 200 years rather than continue disintegrating.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 06:25 PM
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This won't happen... ever. About 15% of men just really like overweight women. Another big chunk date them because these women will accept cheating and other forms of bad behavior. Guys just aren't going to get on the same page with this. The solution is to remove women's special advantages in the workplace, and then bring back slut shaming but on a social media type scale... where that shit is permanent and blasted to the whole world. That way women can't removed high qualified men from good jo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 04:30 PM
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I used to work events, and would see the shortest obese ogres with super tall fit men. These were mostly young couples under 35 and it was weird. A lot of guys will do this because these women are cool with a guy having affairs. They just don't want to hear about it or have it a public thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 04:22 PM
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Most guys are very passionate about video games and porn. The more I read these the more I feel like today's mothers are just idiots... maybe that's why so many boys are struggling?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 04:19 PM
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This is too basic. In particular the co-ed group thing... because men don't approach in public much anymore, women get bombed in these group co-ed settings and either they flee or they become insanely picky because the competition is crazy there. Congrats, you just fucked your son over!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 04:17 PM
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In the world of online dating... I think so many younger men just completely have zero experience with this and no understanding. They actually believe this is untrue.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 04:09 PM
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That's kind of my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 07:50 PM
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I really don't think its that much about what the guy looks like. I worked in infectious disease for some of the universities in 2019 and 2020.... the amount of women these guys sleep with is unbelievable! We had one guy, a D1 Football player and this guy banged 31 different girls in something like 60 days. A lot of the other guys on his team with STI's were not far behind him. They can't all be super handsome guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 06:17 PM
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Who cares? The stuff he is posting are all very serious issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 05:47 PM
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There were women who got interested in these things and who did them, just not many. You cannot blame everything on socialization because we have this thing called science and it's proven conclusively that men and women's brains work differently. The similarity is perhaps 90%, but that 10% difference creates huge changes in interest and outcome. Women have plenty of agency and yet they still rarely go into Comp Sci and fields like that unless they are forced. However, you have seen an enormous g…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 05:46 PM
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But I don't think we need to shy away from the fact that we are ending human life during said process. Which we are doing in these discussions because it sounds less humane. I get that we want to do this, to have better odds at getting it back. But I like to be straightforward myself. All I ask for is honesty, and it's so rare that I greatly appreciate your position. I don't disagree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 05:36 PM
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Racism isn't "deep" enough for you? From an ideology that thinks the sun is racist, the rocks are racist, everything in the universe is racist... no, that isn't deep. Continually. Unfortunately, red pillers aren't able to say the same. If you have actually looked at feminism and it's core beliefs from a serious perspective, I think you would have a lot more criticisms to level than just basic stuff. For example, the textbook definition of patriarchy has almost nothing to do with how the word is …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 05:33 PM
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There are different levels of patriarchy. Obviously the US isn’t nearly as bad as Afghanistan but our institutions were overwhelmingly designed by men and for men. The definition of the word only looks at the gender of people who hold positions of power and influence. So for example the US in 1919 when women were given the right to vote was just as patriarchal as Afghanistan today. The fact that you see a difference and use the word to describe that difference is proof that the textbook definiti…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 04:55 PM
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No, the goverment wants to collect money from men... period end of story. People follow their financial incentives and these courts skim money off the top for child support. The same reasons men don't shoot for full custody apply the partial custody as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 04:26 PM
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I don't think adoption requires a fathers consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 07:16 PM
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Just read some of the topics on this subreddit. It paints a pretty brutal picture of a system where men are systemically locked out of most assistance programs and governement aide at at time when they need it the absolute most.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 07:15 PM
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Because it is a human rights issue first. If you like it or not it's human life. I don't think that during any point of the pregnancy it gets to be anywhere as valuable as the mothers life. So I am fully for the right to terminate it because this does more good than harm. But it doesn't change the fact of the matter. I think this is probably one of the most respectable arguments I've read on abortion in years. Abortion has to be legally available in lots of medical situations where the pregnancy…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 07:03 PM
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This is ridiculous framing. It's like framing the Holocaust in terms of Nazi rights. Actually, you have to legally define at what point a Jew becomes a human first in terms of legally.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 06:57 PM
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Something like 80% of men get custody if they actually care enough to have it. The reason for that statistic is because when men have to shoot for custody it's because the mother is a drug addict or insane... and that's why they win at a higher rate. Otherwise most men don't try for 2 main reasons, first everyone tells them that children are better off with their mom who recieves massive social support and goverment support. Second they don't believe they can win since the divorce courts are so …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 06:53 PM
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What kind of cases do you work on? and in what state?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 06:27 PM
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Sure until you get in front of a judge. The law in the US is also race neutral since the civil rights act.... so by your logic there hasn't been racial discrimination in the US since the 1960s. LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 06:24 PM
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Where did I say that was all? I said it was a criticism of feminism, which is what was requested. Lemme guess, that doesn't count because of reasons? I was just hoping for something a little deeper than "they havn't been intersectional enough in the past" as a critique. I think a lot of feminists themselves say this as a way to placate minorities and keep them in the fold. Have you ever stepped back and looked at this ideology with a critical eye?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 04:46 PM
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the most negative thing it said about men is that we lived in a patriarchy which is detrimental to women. Think about that for just a moment. If that was true... then how on earth did women get the right to vote? So, basically they are teaching kids this lie that men have all the power and use it to hurt women.... and you don't think that is something horrible to teach kids? Especially since it's such a base lie?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 04:43 PM
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What the fuck is a "legal person" and how does that relate to anything? The rights of all people in times past flowed down from those who were seen as protectors of them. A middle class woman had rights and powers way above a low class man. A noble woman could order a peasant man executed for any reason any time and it would be done. We have records of women from noble families ordering that wealthy merchants be beated AND RAPED in the streets and it was not only done but legal. So, what the fuc…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 04:39 PM
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Give me a break. Her writing is very influential within the movement. You feigning ignorance does not matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 04:32 PM
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She's foundational for 3rd wave feminism and taught in most classes. If you believe that gender is fluid then you have studied her work.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 04:31 PM
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For sure, feminism has a very long history of ignoring issues from women of color and being dominated by wealthier white women. That's it? That is all?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 04:29 PM
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No, all you did was prove that you are more interested in scoring internet points than actually having a discussion. I worked very hard to improve upon my situation in life and I've come to a point where I'm happy and successful. Not everyone can hit that level, because not everyones starting point is the same as mine. BUT, everyone can improve upon where they are at. What have you done with your life?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 04:28 PM
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White supremacists are already the dominant majority. No, they aren't. I doubt you could find 50,000 in a whole country of 350 million. The FBI had a total number of 5,000 in 2020. The only way you get higher is by listing prison gangs and bikers... even then it's an absolute tiny portion of people. Compare that to the NeoRacist Woke assholes who are a whopping 20% of the entire population and dominate all positions of power and culture. Women had equal rights and treatment 40 years ago at minim…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 04:21 PM
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Ok... name your time period fool!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 04:14 PM
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This is uneducated propaganda and it's both harmful and stupid to promote. Every culture and time period was a bit different, but generally speaking women were always given a lot of dignity and rights... but it was heavily dependent on social standing. Even still, low class women typically had it better than low class men who were worked to death and slaughtered like animals.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 04:14 PM
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We? You were fucking there, You don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 04:24 AM
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Oh there are absolutely criticisms of feminism, you just don't want to hear about it because they aren't "FeMiNiStS RuInEd a GeNeRaTiOn oF BoYs" Ok. I'm very interested to hear you criticize them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 04:23 AM
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Women always had basic dignity you ridiculous person.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 04:22 AM
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The Future is Female said by Feminists is equivalent to the slogan White Power when used by white supremacists.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 04:19 AM
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And that podcast has the lowest rating I've ever seen on a podcast. It is allowed to exist. Think about that for a moment!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 02:47 AM
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"Kill all men" or "all men are rapists". Wasn't it Andrea Dworkin who said that? They teach her shit on every college campus in the nation, so anyone who claims to be a feminist in some part buys into these ideas. Look, if you are in the Klan and march around in white hoods, why should anyone believe your claim that you aren't racist?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 02:46 AM
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It’s kind of hard to have a discussion on this though because women are very clever with how they express things. Most women won’t outright say misandry doesn’t exist (cause that in itself can seem misandrist), they just create an excuse why body shaming, death threats against men, etc. aren’t actually misandry. Misandry is Feminism. They use the word Patriarchy as a standin for Satan, and that word literally means "all men". So basically we have Feminism which functions the exact same way as Ra…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 02:40 AM
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Why are we continually comparing the most extreme things women have ever said on the internet with the stuff that dudes say on this sub almost every day How about the fact that they teach that extreme bullshit on every college campus in the nation? You can kiss ass all day, but it won't get you laid. You come across like a toadie... Feminists have an absolute headlock on education in this country and it has fucked an entire generation of boys, absolutely ruined their lives and you can't find the…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 02:29 AM
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This is actually very bad for people and a culture where everyone has to walk on eggshells fucking blows. If you cant take a little shit from people, then you just suck and honestly you should not be on this planet.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 02:19 AM
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Yes. AWALT , describing borderline personality as all women,the oldest teenager in the room. That is flat out stupid. Anyone who believes that crap is a fool Do you believe women stop maturing at 16? That's in the sidebar as well. Uh.... what kind of "mature?" I said once before, I think this stuff is mostly a self defence mechanism. It justifies failure, and justifies not trying. If you never talk to a woman in real life... you don't have to worry about having one reject you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 01:56 AM
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Do you make everything about yourself? Do you have such main character syndrome that a anything different can’t be real? Stop being a jerk. Don’t make everything about you and it starts being easier to see how much real life is different for everyone You know that saying about making assumptions and how it makes an ass out of you, not me.... yeah, way to make that saying relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 09:43 PM
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Years ago. Why, am I missing something?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 08:27 PM
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Incorrect. They are raised by their parents to be good, and they don't fall into bad relationships early on. I had a crazy family. I also struggled as a teen, and then rapidly fell into an abusive relationship. We have no resources to help men through this stuff. They just told me to go to therapy, and therapy was bullshit. When I got into the Red Pill virtually all the men I met had similar issues. I'm actually at a pretty healthy spot and have been for nearly a decade. My main issue is that I'…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 08:25 PM
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Ohhhh if this was an actual irl club then I will definitely be inclined to believe you. And I can definitely see how there is quite a bit of truth in the last paragraph. The true goal of me being on this stupid sub is locating younger guys who aren't totally defeatist mindset and helping plug them into local networks, but we got deplatformed 3 times since 2019 and it is a STRUGGLE to keep stuff together. Right now if someone shuts down Telegram the Black Pill will rule supreme over the next gene…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 08:10 PM
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"All Women Are Like That" is bullshit. It doesn't exist and it used to be the defining line between Red and Black pill ideas. The men who believe this don't actually know any women. Nobody fully understands female attraction. Even women don't really understand it. They kind of understand what makes them personally tick, but other women are generally a mystery. My own theory is that it has to do with the emotional needs of woman combined primarily with perceptions of mans status. I think it comes…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 07:49 PM
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I'm not sure what you are trying to say, but I sense you don't understand the male experience. Good men are not born, they are made, and it's not always a straight forward process. I know that's hard to understand from the typical female experience where no effort is required in order to succeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 07:37 PM
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It maybe once was. But definitely not for the majority of its run time. I will definitely believe you that there were quite a lot of successful guys. But these were definitely not the majority. From what I read when I took a look occacionally most people definitely were putting on an act. From 2008-2019, when we were going strong there was a clear separation. Most of the thought leaders and honest Red Pillers... we had regular in person meetups. We went out to bars, clubs, concerts... all kinds …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 05:38 PM
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Dude men who are more liberal in thinking also sleep around a fuck ton more. And both sides have a fuck ton of absolute bottom dwellers, just in different forms. I really doubt that the amount changes much per side. Only about 30% of liberal men are able to sleep around. The rest are either bisexual and fucking each other, permanently alone, or those sad sorry sacks who just watch their wives sleep with other men. Overall, being a liberal man means a signifigant reduction in sex... even in relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 05:16 PM
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One of the more successful guys back in the day went by the screen name Gaius. I think he usually slept with anywhere between 30 and 60 different women a year. I met him when we went on a trip to Vegas. We sat up drinking whiskey until 4am one night and he told me that his success with women was making him depressed. He was early 30s at the time. A year later he dropped out, got married, and has... I think 6 kids now. He actually was one of the founders of the International Wife Hunting movement…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 05:05 PM
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I agree, but being attractive to women is the first step. Most guys eventually grow out of the need for quantity and instead go for quality and intimacy. A lot of things in life require you to go through stages. I suspect that had we been granted better interactions with women in our youth this would never have been a required step, but this is just how life goes sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 04:59 PM
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People who are more liberal sleep around a lot more and also choose to not get married even in a committed relationship that will last a lifetime. Correction, WOMEN who are liberal sleep around a lot more. The highly attractive men who are liberal are drowning in these women, but the vast majority of liberal men are the bottom dwellers that women refuse to date. The number one indicator of a man who can't get a date or sex is describing himself as liberal... of the 30% of men who didn't get sex …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 04:52 PM
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This is Fact! It's always been a diverse community of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 04:45 PM
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Back when we had our own space and Red Pill was primarily a PUA thing, I think the average Red Pill guy got around 7 women a year in all different types of scenarios. I knew guys that did short term relationships and only dated maybe 2 women a year, and I knew guys who just did one night stands and hit 7 to 30. The men who were just totally failing all went black pill. Somehow in the shift from Millenial to Gen Z, the Red Pill vanished almost entirely and everyone went black pill. I suspect it w…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 04:43 PM
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Also, the assumption is that only crazy women go with us... which is absolutely untrue.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 04:33 PM
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Because its a very real and structural thing that has a pervasive effect - at it's most innocuous, of women's general equality and - at it's most egregious, the freedom and safety of women everywhere, not the mention the general well being of ALL humans (for example the "might makes right" form of patriarchy) What right does a lion have to eat a gazelle? I know that we live in cities and walk around in these world that is entirely man made and artificial, but the laws of nature do not change, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 04:01 PM
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No. What's going to happen is that these generations are going to follow what the young Chinese guys are doing and just lie flat and do nothing, they won't fight or resist. Then the elites are just going to use AI tech to imprison them for whatever reason and then work them as slaves.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 04:31 PM
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It doesn't demonize men. It just acknowledges the reality that most institutional power, influence and wealth is held by men. Why acknowledge that men hold most positions of power? Why use the phrase so frequently? It says nothing about the average man having that power other than the implication that he may benefit from social effects of patriarchy like be more likely to be encouraged and accepted into positions of power and the having society filtered through a masculine lense. There's equally…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 06:12 PM
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True, the desertification of the zone is relatively new, but still farms and agriculture relied a lot on manual labor, which was best done by men. Yeah, that's completely true! One of the most interesting things that I have found is that while the area was fairly fertile, it was of course primarily along the rivers. The sort of city state period of the 5000-3000 bc timeframe they believe initial conflict between the cities grew out of fights over grazing land for livestock. I was also quite surp…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 05:10 PM
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Catholics destroyed every effigy and trace of record keeping they could find, hacked off their hair, stole their children and indoctrinated. Destroyed entire cultures and languages and enforced adherence to Catholic rituals. Well, it seems you have at least learned half of history. The people who fought for them, protected them, preserved their culture, kept their orphan children fed and clothed, educated them, and loved them.... they were also Catholics. You are going to find that history is co…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 05:06 AM
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Leadership has never been done by the most "capable", it's been done by often the most relentless and most likely to cause violence and want to control others. The two key traits are actually coalition building and strategic thinking. Even Ghenghis Khan would not have been able to actually do violence to anyone without those skills. A describing term. I know your sexism doesn't like any criticism over sexist ideas and systems but that's what it is. It's a thing you just admitted to in your last …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 04:59 AM
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That would imply I think you should date. I'm not qualified to make that suggestion for you. Fact is that most of these guys although they don't really hate women... they have many issues that are deeply unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 03:27 AM
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Yeah, this got cleared up in a follow up post. The Isrealites essentially wanted to ensure primacy of the wife's children over potential concubines or second wives from other cultures.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 07:38 PM
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I remember the crop rotation, but not the part about fertilizers. Wow. Have you heard of tobacco? Are you aware that tomatoes are a New World crop and Italy had never heard of tomatoes? Meaning that all the saucy dishes considered "Italian" are actually cribbed from Native American farming and cooking? There are a lot of crops that came from the new world. The potatoe is perhaps the most impactful. The Pueblo and Hohokam used irrigation canals in the southwest. Yeah, they were quite advanced. Yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 07:36 PM
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If your mother is Jewish, you are Jewish, but if your father is Jewish you are only partially Jewish and you must convert. Oh Yes! This was common in multiple wife cultures or in places where concubines had status. It also is used to prevent cultural mixing. On sexism, I think almost all Middle East cultures were somewhat sexist, probably because the harshness of the desert that relied heavily on male labor. The fertile crescent was just that... it wasn't just some giant desert wasteland. In fac…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 07:27 PM
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Dude. How much do you actually know about these things? Yes, it was primarily catholic priests who fought for better treatment to the indiginous peoples. They fought so hard in fact that some historians believe what they wrote was partly propaganda. If you want more on the topic look up Bartolomé de Las Casas. “To bloody sun gods” such a dramatic turn of phrase. OT God demanded sacrifice and bet Job’s faith with the devil, while methodically killing and removing Job’s entire family. OT God also …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 07:21 PM
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Think about it. If women were capable of doing the core leadership functions of a society better than men, then those societies would have rapidly overtaken and dominated ones with more masculine leadership. However, that never happend. Instead even the ancients noticed this constant trend of masculine tribes and cultures becoming highly successful and wealthy, then becoming more effeminate, and then ultimately falling apart and being conquered by a more masculine group. Ancient Chinese called t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 04:44 PM
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I think that would make sense given how they divided up their gender roles. Most agriculture was handled by women and I think was done communnally? I remember that they had developed a form of crop rotation, but had not realized the importance of either fertilzers or irrigation. I think their techological level was below even the ancient Mesopotamians, which mean low crop yields and a heavy reliance on hunting and gathering. I remember talking with my anthropology prof about them years ago and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 04:12 PM
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By what standard? They actually had religious provisions for widows. Also... are you sure they were matrilineal?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 03:51 PM
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The way I see it, the Spanish had a different kind of cruelty. You have to understand that Spain was ruled by Muslims for hundreds of years, and they wars they fought for independance were nasty. So, the Spanish had developed this encomienda system that should be thought of as old time socialism. I may have spelled that wrong. Anyway, how it worked was peasants needed these things like food, shelter, protection, but due to the back and forth wars often couldnt' provide it themselves, nor could t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 03:49 PM
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At least in the more urbanized civilization down in Mexico women had their own status in society and girls were given compulsory education not just the boys. Read "The Broken Spears". It's Mayan and Aztec people dictating their history and culture to sympathetic priests. First hand accounts of how that culture once worked. However, the Spanish were clearly shocked by a lot of the shit they saw. Sacrificing people by the tens of thousands to bloody sun gods. The near constant rape of women, the c…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 03:38 AM
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How about the sharks which followed the ships through the Middle Passage to feast on dying and dead slaves. You should actually read the entire story of what these people went through. The slave ships were not the starting point.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 03:24 AM
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That’s some racist-ass horseshit. The Osage, Navajo, Cherokee, Lenape and Narragansett were egalitarian while some Cherokee and Yuchi tribes were matriarchal. I remember the Cherokee being matrilineal not a Matriarchy. I don't remember them being wonderful in their treatment of women, however, I've never really studied them outside of how they sued the US government to have a different status than black americans, and also so they could keep slaves...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 03:16 AM
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Think about how many poeple in society today are dependant on others biologically. City folk can't feed themselves for fucks sake, they are about as self sufficient as embryos. What make abortion acceptable is convenience. Sometimes it's just too damn convenient to kill people that might burden you. Also, emotional distance is what makes people think of it as moral. Like the genocide of Uighurs in China, they are far away and nobody knows them... so nobody fucking cares. ALL human life is valued…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 02:59 AM
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If it's not her body? Why can't it be put into the men? Why can't it be put into some incubator and you come back in 9 months? Actually, this will be entirely possible in the near future. Can it grow by itself? If not then it is her body. You don't want to make the argument that failing to support yourself is grounds for killing someone. Under that philsophy most of the women in the US would be dead and a good chunk of the men too. But the ridiculousness of your ideas is not the point I was tryi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 02:55 AM
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I reject them all as being 100% and think we have only a smattering of the actual teachings of the itinerant rabbi we know today as "Jesus" What we have today is "Paulism", so far as I'm concerned. To get to this place you have to essentially think of Jesus as a delusional idiot who got himself executed by accident before he could kick off a rebellion. I know this is what Jews expected, but if you read thier prophecies... they are nonsense. Who can rule forever? But yeah I get where you are comi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 02:39 AM
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People in positions of power are only able to maintain that power if they serve a particular group of powerful people. This can be a tribe, ethnic group, religious community, ideology, military... ect. The people achieve positions of power typically through merit and competency. When incompetent people achieve positions of power this creates large problems for the group of people they are supposed to serve. Often that requires them to commit violence in order to maintain control. The North Korea…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 10:51 PM
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It probably has something to do with the origin of ambition and the belief that "If I can do it, others can do it too".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 10:44 PM
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This is not a compelling argument. The child is both the man and the woman's. Abortion is a relatively safe procedure if performed correctly. Also... it's not her body. It's the child's body. What the fuck? We aren't aborting the woman, the very suggestion of it is ludicrous.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 10:40 PM
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Paul promotes a lot of things in his writings that were never said anywhere in the Gospels by Jesus ... nor even in the Nag Hammadi scrolls. The Nag Hammadi Scrolls are all from a much, much later date. It's nonsense to expect Paul to preach ideas that didn't exist until 200 years after he died. Why do you think this is a relevant argument? Paul's teachings match up almost perfectly with the gospels. In my experience all the attempts to undermine Paul come from a desire to attack his proscriptio…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 10:35 PM
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Patriarchy just means men, historically, globally and today, hold most of the power. What is the point of this metric? Do we need a term to describe that water is wet? No, we don't. So, why the fuck do feminists use this stupid pointless term? Because it has implications associated with it. If one man holds power, does that mean all men hold power? What is the fucking point?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 06:13 PM
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Because they don't really hate women. It's a defense mechanism employed by men who have been deeply hurt by women in general or A woman in particular, and the goal is to keep themselves from getting hurt again. Isn't this obvious? It's the same reason women do this. Men who truly hate women do not express this openly. I knew this woman who was friends with a notorious serial killer who hated women so much, he got sexual pleasure from murdering them. She was quite a bit older than me, but I knew …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 06:06 PM
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Yates was sentenced to life in prison and serves her sentence in a mental hospital. Yates is schizophrenic and locked up in a mental hospital, which is what happens to murderers found not guilty by reason of insanity, whether male or female. Only about 25% of the people who plead insanity are actually aquitted. Men are found guilty despite extensive mental records showing insanity about 92% of the time. Women are found guilty only about 50% of the time when they plead insanity. There are multipl…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 04:28 PM
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women will know no one can expect to get away with pulling that bs, and the rates should drop like a rock. I'm totally down so long as we also make it a requirement to notify the father and husband of any abortions.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 04:12 PM
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I would prove my innocence and then once that is done I would take that chance to be as toxic as possible, because I dont take well to beint accused. Honest does not mean compliant. You must accept that as a man, other men do bad things and whether you like it or not that reflects upon us personally and sometimes we must accept that burden. I think your woman has the right to compliance is this regard. Society as a whole does not, yet you are not going to bitch if they make you take a drug scree…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 04:06 PM
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?? Saying fatherless behaviour is actually a way of saying that they had a bad mother who did not "choose better" and daddy issues is just a way to make fun of these women. No. I think the understanding here is that no woman is capable of being both a mother and a father at the same time. It is fundamentally a woman's job... her primary job to select a quality man to have children with, and then to keep him around. Otherwise women would be assigned husbands and they wouldn't be allowed to choose…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 03:58 PM
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“to prove you didn’t get pregnant by someone else, take this test”. That is a flat out accusation. Therapy is valid in this situation. I'm going to be direct on this point. Any guy who has ever been cheated on, will likely have this in the animal part of his brain... the part you can't control or turn off. The reason is that no matter how good and connected a guy is to his partner, this will virtually always catch him by surprise. I knew... I absolutely knew my xWife was going to cheat with this…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 03:41 PM
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No, this is incorrect thinking. Trust but verify. I'm not going to get all butthurt if my daughters mom sometimes checks for signs of innappropriate behavior, and this is not something that's highly sensitive and specific test... this is highly prone to error and false accusation. Still, I would see this as something that comforts me. Don't you understand why?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 03:16 PM
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I wouldn't consider it a point of pride to defend myself against baseless accusations. It's not an accusation. You are making it an accusation when it's not and that says something fundamentally bad about you. That cannot be danced around. The insecurity and paranoia is entirely coming from you, and I'm not sure therapy can help with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 03:07 PM
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The other guys got a point. The pussy pass is a very real thing in our country. This isn't Iran where women get punished for bad deeds. This is America where women can drown their children in the bathtub and still ellicit vast public sympathy... even get a vastly lighter sentence than a man who did the exact same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 06:07 AM
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Carrie's mother, from the book/movie. King used this character as a vehicle to attack religion... not bad mothers. Norma Bates Old story, plus she isn't seen in the movie. The main villian is actually her son. Matilda's mother Again old story, the mother is bad but still better than the father. Mother gothel from Tangled. Not a mother... an abductor. Precious's mother Nowhere near as bad as her horrific absusive father. Cercei Lannister An idiot, but not a bad mother. She is fiercly loyal and pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 06:02 AM
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You can't make serious accusations about your partner's character and then act like you didn't just make those accusations. I didn't address this part, but I feel like I should. This attitude is fucking horseshit on an epic level. If you have this attitude then give your husband 100% control of your finances in accounts that he owns and controls. Then make sure you can't see anything that happens. That's what you are asking. There is trust and there is blind trust. A guy can have 100% full trust…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 05:42 AM
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If I want to know how the ancestry of my child breaks down, and her mom freaks the fuck out... Yeah she's hiding some shit. I'm of the opinion that any woman who kicks up a fit about a paternity test, regardless of the situation... that isn't a woman anyone can trust. An honest woman would be happy to run that paternity test, might even do it herself just to make sure he has no doubts. If a guy wants a test run, it has nothing to do with trust. If he didn't trust the woman, he would have been go…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 05:33 AM
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Mansplaining. Manspreading. Shit even Patriarchy. Patriarchy is essentially competence based hierarchy. Feminists hate this, created a label for it and then demonized it, because they want to pretend we can create a heirarchy free society AKA... Communism. However, just like communism, most of them don't actually believe this shit, they just want to put themselves on top and oppress working class women and men. On it's own I consider it a loathsome ideology, but capable of doing some social good…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 03:18 AM
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Because, in the media we rarely see examples of bad mothers. I don't really think it's socially acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 12:33 AM
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This is a rather wierd scenario and I don't think that I would be willing to play along in that particular situation. Anyone who has been with the Red Pill long enough will know a certain RP guy who is French Canadian, openly had a wife, a mistress, and some random side pieces, practicing civil rights law. One of his most well known statements was "I love my wife, but I neither need or expect my wife to love me in return, it is only respect that I demand from her." Also... "I require affection i…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 11:02 PM
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Because it's Windmill... I somehow feel like I'm being trolled. However, I will bite on this one. I've had this phrase used on me a couple of times in my life, but not all of those usages were the same. When this is used as a motivational statement, in order to snap someone out ot negative thinking and a downward depression cycle... it doesn't feel bad. It can still come across like a verbal slap, but the meaning and intent is good. However, it can also be used to invalidate a man's concerns or …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 10:45 PM
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Many people (a plurality, if not a majority) already hate/despise their jobs/careers and continues to tolerates doing it for the paycheck. This is dumb, because most people are dumb. I got into my career and rapidly realized that if I worked hard enough I could make crazy good money and then not have to work as hard later. I did.. and everyone else who is smart does the same. From 22-30 we bust our ass and rise to the top, from 30-40 we are on cruise control and have plenty of time for fun plus …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 10:23 PM
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If my husband asked for a paternity test, he has my full blessing to get one done. However, he'd also have to find a marriage counselor and a therapist to sort out his trust issues because I'm not going to sit around and pretend like he didn't just insinuate that there's a very real chance that not only have I cheated but that I got pregnant, and am trying to pass it off as his. I tell guys all the time to buy the Ancestry dot com kit, and run the whole family. If a woman kicks up a fit about th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 09:54 PM
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Why? I've personally never had this issue with cohabitation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 09:38 PM
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Hottness makes me glance more than once and find something oddly magnetic kind of like a car crash. I love this turn of phrase because it implies something most people don't usually say out loud. We are all kind of conditioned to think of the Halo effect, but when I see women who are above and beyond good looking my mind immediately goes not to effortless beauty, but to all of the effort that must go into creating and maintaining those looks, and the mindset that must be in place to desire that.…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 09:10 PM
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That is certainly a thing terpers tell one another, as they watch women take the men they are attractive to home. You totally missed the point. A lot of guys have this experience where a woman doesn't really like us up front, but seemingly changes her mind after some time together. To most men this seems random and odd... despite the fact that we do this as well. The truth is that people in general are pretty decent at knowing what turns them on, but have absolutely no concept of why.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 09:04 PM
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Sexual desire drops signifigantly in marriage for women, but not in long term dating. Due to many experiences I currently believe that if there is too much emotional safety it drastically reduces the overall sex drive of most women. Have you experienced this yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 08:53 PM
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Every part of that makes sense, but I'm curious as to what you mean by "style". Because this suggests status signals, and/or stereotyping.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 08:46 PM
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You don't think very deeply about things do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 05:53 PM
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But this isn't what I asked. You said women were unable to differentiate between real and fake options and as a result we have an unrealistically elevated level of expectation of men, while in men, this ability to differentiate was so thorough they didn't even need to think about. I asked you why this is. This opinion is based on multiple studies, where they ask women about their standards before going to a speed dating event, and then after a speed dating event. They find consistently that if t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 05:50 PM
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I'm unfamiliar with this The Titanic is sinking, there are two life boats left. One with a man and one with a Polar Bear. Which do you choose? for trans people? Anyone who doesn't want to identify strictly as male.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 05:22 PM
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Be clear or be gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 05:16 PM
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No, I don’t think so. Because I don’t believe that men are naturally rapists. Some men will rape, but they don’t represent the majority of men. I agree. It’s also important to note that rape happens often in places like India and Egypt where women have far less rights than women in the West have. So, I think it comes down to both individual men’s inclination to rape and cultural attitudes toward women in any given society. What creates that individual inclination in your opinion? Also... Egypt a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 05:15 PM
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Uh... well we can just ban women from planes all together. They can do train travel instead... MUCH SAFER! Also... voting is very unsafe. We should start rethinking a lot of this stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 05:20 AM
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I'd actually prefer segregated schools. I mean if given a choice... I'd probably take the men's plane.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 05:18 AM
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a doctor in India was just recently gang raped and murdered. I don't think many people know that. India generally has one of these cases once every 4 or 5 years. Also... I believe they are saying only one guy did this. If it's a gang rape then it's probably another religiously motivated attack since the girl was Hindu, and that shit is one of the biggest underlying factors making the country unsafe for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 05:17 AM
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I think we proved with the Titanic analogy that the bear analogy was bullshit and that no woman actually chose the bear. I mean for fucks sake, we need to line women up and put them in front of a grizzly bear cage and anyone who chooses the bear can go sit in the fucking cage with the grizzly for a day... then we can take her shit seriously. Otherwise, just shut up, because we know it's a fucking lie. Also, I'm only cool with this idea of gendered seating charts under 2 conditions. First, women …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 04:56 AM
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How the fuck do you figure that confidence is an "asshole trait"? What total brainrot. You know those women who are like 200 pounds and call themselves a 10 and claim to be raving beauties. Yeah... that's a psychotic trait. Any kind of delusional confidence is an asshole trait. You probably don't think of it this way because you think that when YOU are psychotically confident it's empowering everyone tells you this shit. Being a narc only really works if you look like a supermodel with it, becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 04:34 AM
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Scout masters , priests, etc definitely up the average. Some have hundreds of victims. I think the California public school system is sitting on top of a sex abuse scandal that will outstrip anything previously known or recorded. The Catholic Church made a huge mistake letting in theological liberal priests... at least that's their claim, and I think they are probably correct. The estimates from CA public schools puts the victim total potentially over a million on the high end since 1980. They w…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 04:04 AM
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There is literally no circumstance where rape is justifiable or acceptable. None. Of course. My question though is that if it's essentially men attempting to feel powerful.... then if you change the laws and rules of our society in such a way as to artificially oppress and remove power from men... and hand that power to women. Doesn't that potentially increase the desire for men to commit this crime? Aren't you potentially turning what would have been otherwise normal healthy men into rapists?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 03:59 AM
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What is different in the male/female intellect that prevents women from even grasping this idea while it is inherent knowledge in men? Bear in mind that women are demonstrably better at both communication and socialization, and are not the ones complaining about having too many options. I think everyone has this sort of blind spot. Men walk around thinking they highly "rational" when in fact they are just as emotional if not more so than women. Women having their expectations raise by seeing fak…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 03:35 AM
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Old ladies, and young boys are sex trafficked all the damn time! No, this is about flooding the market with immigrants who aren't going to be out raping and robbing, but can still add to an economy I'd even be willing to add in Post Op Trans women from Muslim countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 03:18 AM
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Just from reading your post, your problem doesn't seem to be that you come across as too nice and that's why women aren't dating you, you come across as depressed and mentally unwell and yes those are big things that will turn people away. I want to say that this is a very good take. Part of being too nice is being afraid of women. It's possible to have that issue without being nice to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 03:16 AM
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But becoming a nasty asshole isn't going to improve your situation. Why don't you give this the nuance it deserves rather than pointless platitudes? Yes, there are some particular asshole traits that WILL make you more attractive to women. Confidence is top of that list. Other stuff like developing narcissistic appearance tendencies, and stop caring what other people think.... all of these things can help. However, one of the key traits that these guys tend to have that hurts them is putting wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 03:13 AM
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So, the problem with lack of experience is that it affects you in multiple ways. First, you don't really know what to do or how to respond to things... which makes a lot of interactions feel awkward to women. The second is that it kills your confidence. This is why Red Pill turning this stuff into almost scripts can help you overcome some of the awkwardness... or at least limit it. Also, faking confidence is an important feature. The most difficult part in my opinion to learn is how to meet wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 02:39 AM
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There's no problem with modern dating. There are just people discontent that the people THEY want don't want what THEY are offering. I'm not willing to just chalk this up to a mismatch in supply and demand. Essentially modern dating is a scam that works more like a ponzi scheme than a functional market. If a person's goal is a good relationship, very few people are actually trying to find a partner based on characteristics that make a great long term relationship... instead they are all looking …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 02:28 AM
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Women's expectations for a man increase with her percieved amount of options. I think in modern dating percieved options greatly outstrip real options, leading to a delusional level of expectation. I think a lot of men actually just naturally get this... or at least they sense it, so they want to try and tamp it down. On the other hand, male perception of options doesn't increase expectations... I can personally attest to the fact that it reduces the interest in being faithful or in comittment. …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 12:08 AM
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The problem isn’t the marketplace, it’s the product This is actually my theory as well. I just happen to live in a very left wing city and I notice that the push to make men more effeminate has also made them much less attractive to the women around them. There are still some really pretty ones that do OK... but for the most part women despise these guys. If men weren’t so thirsty, they’d be just as discriminating as women The thirst is probably not that much higher than historic norms. Maybe so…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 12:02 AM
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I've personally never seen it work like this. The more attractive the man, the more options he has, the more likely his goals for her are short term. So the only time your scenario is going to potentially play out is if the woman is very ugly, but even then the second and more attractive guy is not likely to be seriously interested in dating her long term... or maybe even being seen in public with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 11:55 PM
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There are about 4 studies on this from Australia, and each of them show that regardless of how poorly a woman feels after casual sex, it actually increases her probability of doing it again IF the guy is attractive and sexual desire is there. So, what you are describing is actually a situation in which a woman has had some bad experiences and has decided to begin dating men she doesn't find sexually exciting.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 11:48 PM
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That was it. He just got up and left. He walked back to the hotel, packed his things, and took a bus home. I don't know what happened after that. But, I was wondering if that story ever got cross-posted over to here, and if you had taken that into account. Unless there is some kind of medical reason, this needs to be treated like abuse when the divorce comes. Like, it entitles the injured party to 100% of all marital assets.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 11:41 PM
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Where have you been? It seems like they all want me to settle down and play house with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 11:38 PM
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I think you have a good point. But just for the sake of thinking this through... lets take a case on the margins and examine it. Do you remember that mattress girl? She actually released a video or reenactment of herself being raped. So her story goes like this. She is making love to this guy and he puts his finger near her anus. She says "No"... they keep going. Then suddenly he just sticks it in and she starts saying No repeatedly, but he ignores it. Now, let's just assume this story is true. …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 11:27 PM
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Kids are such easy targets, they often don’t have the language to explain what is happening to them and often appreciate the attention at the time. Groomers pick lonely and ignored kids. It's just sick! I have been paying attention to the studies and literature on this, but 76 victims on average... that's just mindblowing. Many predators are family members. It makes them less likely to be prosecuted because victims feel pressured from their own family to not report. My h has a story about his br…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 11:23 PM
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Maybe rape used as terror really is a different animal than rape for sexual gratification This is just my opinion, but rape is always a display of dominance. It's the ultimate statement of "I have power over your body". I think that's also why it hurts people psychologically so bad... it makes them feel weak, powerless, unsafe. I think the gratification part is not the primary motivation. A huge amount of rape occurs with objects or hands too... there is no gratification on the part of the rapis…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 10:07 PM
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What would be transparent? That women are less likely to be out on the streets murdering people and robbing folks a knife point?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 10:03 PM
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Good Lord! 73? How do they go so long without getting caught? Imagine the numbers from those creepy fucking Hollywood casting agents that work with kids... or those freaks working at Disney? They have to be in the 1000s on average. This topic just sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 10:02 PM
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Actually, studies repeatedly show that a small number of sexual predators commit the vast majority all the rapes. I mean think about it... one Bill Cosby has such an outsized impact that if more than 1 or 2% of the male population was like that... then every woman in the US would get raped once every 4 or 5 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 09:54 PM
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Stop and think about the implications of this... not from a sexual perspective but from an societal perspective. Rape isn't about sex, and if you have to push yourself onto someeone then it isn't about feeling desired either. So, is most likely an urge to be powerful and in control.... a dominance mechanism. So, if all of this is true then what we are really describing is a male desire or need to feel powerful and dominant. Correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 09:51 PM
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I don’t think most men are naturally rapists. When we talk about these things in conjuction with the early modern world.... understand that in the ancient world women were primarily viewed in terms of breeding and child production. The most detailed descriptions of cities being sacked... a lot of the sexual violence was targeted to little boys, not women. Once these areas embraced Abrahamic religions, boys were much safer and over time the sexual violence against everyone slowed down. I look at …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 09:45 PM
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No, I highly reccommend doing things the way you do them. I don't think you should change. I choose to date this way for very specific reasons, and revenge is not one of them. It's much more about trust and not wasting my time. I have zero interest in another low sex relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 09:32 PM
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I'm curious, because it's not brought up often and I want to know your perspective, OP. Your post assumes the woman has already had sex with a bunch of other men. What about when she's a virgin? What time frame metric should a man use then? And how could he determine if the reason is attractiveness or trustworthiness? What a great question! From this you can get a glimpse into how men think. Very few men are going to take issue waiting for a virgin. Which implies that this is a competetive thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 08:42 PM
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Bro, they don't get it because they are so far up their own ass they don't even understand themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 08:37 PM
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If that makes anyone feel less loved then they are free lo leave, it's fine. I don't leave... I just shift from long term to short term relationship thinking... maybe date some other women on the side. I mean if you put in all that work up front, you might as well just see how the relationship goes. Maybe she turns it around at some point and really makes you feel great.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 08:33 PM
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That's what's so sad about it, too. The people with the most influence never have to live with the problems they create. I remember when I first found out about the emergency service differences I actually felt a little bit sick. There are only so many ways to organize a society. We have seen over and over that when you build a nation around merchants and mercantilism the benefits flow up and down throughout society, but it requires strong private property rights and a very weak government. The …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 08:22 PM
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It's shocking how many people struggle with being comfortable with their race... because technically it doesn't even exist. My daughter is mixed... I don't think it's natural for people to think along those lines. She just doesn't at all, and I don't want anyone to teach her to think like that either.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 02:08 AM
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People don't seem willing to compromise anymore. Seems like a shame, because that's usually the best way to make everyone happier.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 02:03 AM
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He can't find a single woman who likes him in his whole country yet in another they'll just be falling over him (because they're inherently different apparently)...sure... This is massive cope. What you are going to find is that in a lot of other countries women put a priority on finding a good husband, and the obesity rate for women under 40 is like 5% not 40%. So, it's a combination of a lot of factors. One being women actually make themselves available and put out effort. Another being many m…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 02:02 AM
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Immigration is not a walk in the park and brain drains are always from poorer to richer places for better living conditions rather than voluntarily worsening them. Well, this is a two part deal. Where I live, wealthy Passport Bros just go overseas, marry a woman and come back and raise a family. The lower income guys usually stay in the other country and work remote. Often times they invest, build businesses, work in import/export, stuff like that. The older guys seem to open bars and restaurant…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:53 AM
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I had a tech startup that I sold for a really good profit, and I know what the investment scene looks like. The US is still where it's at because this is where the VC, talent, and marketplace all exist in the same place. However, places like silicone valley have lost most of thier dynamic presence, still it's just shifting to other parts of the US. China is killing Hong Kong, which would have been huge, Europe is sliding down the shitter, Africa and the Middle east have no talent... India and Si…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:38 AM
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Hardship. Some of it external some of it internal. I have come to the conclusion that hardship is so essential in the creation of a good person that I naturally distrust those without some in their backgroud... actually I've found those folks to be overly dramatic. Of course hardship absolutely breaks some people... so its about being able to overcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 11:57 PM
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If I was king of the world, I would concede this to you in order to get the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 11:49 PM
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don't understand why do you want ban of "no fault" divorce. Would you really enjoy being married to someone who is forced to be with you by law? I hear this bullshit argument all the time... like people didn't get divorced before the change to No Fault. Back when fault was determined... and there is always fault... people still got divorced all the time and you didn't have to have lawyers battle it out for every penny. The year NY went No Fault... the state laywers association made a Billion dol…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 03:32 PM
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When you guys say stuff like this what are you proposing? Marriage, divorce, and family law reforms need to take place. Prenups need to be automatic, divorce needs to have clear justifications and fault while still remaining fairly easy, and joint custody needs to be the default. Regarding the no fault changes, if no solid justification for divorce can be given the party intending to leave should forfiet all marital assets. The school system needs to be completely restructured. We need male teac…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 03:28 PM
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Is this personal experience talking?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 03:12 PM
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If you look at the ancient period, it's all propaganda, but this time in history we have an immense amount of personal records and letters. I have read what the academics say, and there is a lot that's unknown. However, I also have read a lot of personal correspondence between people during the time period, including what enslaved people wrote and said about thier time in captivity.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 03:07 PM
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How much do you actually know about this period of time? The colonial period is different from the revolutionary period, from the Jacksonian era, from the Civil War... and to be even more complicated each state during each time period was radically different.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 02:09 PM
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Washington was "in love" with his prisoner? Do you actually believe he couldn't free her thanks to his power and wealth, or do you actually believe she wouldn't have run like the wind towards an attractive man of her choosing given the choice? It is also possible that Washington was gay, who knows. You seriously romanticized a fucking monster of a human being who fucked his prisoner instead of freeing her? Uh... not a slave a free woman, or so the theory goes. Regarding relationships of the peri…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 03:10 AM
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Where I live, people born and raised here are more likely to commit crimes than Afghans and Somalis both. However, they usually aren't racially motivated. I actually wanted to marry into the Afghan community.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 11:28 PM
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Afghan immigrants in Germany are less likely to commit crime than North Africans: Moroccans, Tunisians, and Algerians. I've had Somali's point a gun at me, say racist stuff and march me out of a neighborhood before. As for Afghans, I had a girls uncle threaten to murder me... and her, despite my willinness to joing their religion. His primary issue was my race. I was even starting to learn pashto. I haven't seen data from Germany for maybe 6 years. The last time I did Syrians came out looking pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 10:15 PM
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I've never supported them in the first place. The right hates me too, so I just do me and stick it to extremists of either side. It doesn't help that my country's political landscape have been hijacked by retarded American politics too. I have only spent a little bit of time around the right wing folks. I know church people pretty well. I think the two extremes are very different. The Christian folks don't want you in thier church, or around their kids... but the official teaching of the religio…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 09:26 PM
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Whatever it is, at the minimum it's dangerous for women and girls and any politician, man or woman who agreed to their bulk importation should lose their job and be charged with treason. For countries based in equal protection under the law this doesn't make sense at all. I don't want to come across as someone who just hates Islam. I generally respect it, I spent some time attending a Mosque. I have friends who are practicing. That said... it has to change. They have to reject the Hadiths and st…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 09:19 PM
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(emphasis mine) Thank you. This means we can have a logical discussion. Women in power appreciate money and more power every bit as much as their male counterparts. The era of women in power being more socially responsible is over. I think they always have. I like ancient history and when you read about the lives of wealthy powerful women... they seem to act a lot like wealthy powerful men. Now, they had social constraints that men didn't and when a good one got into power for an extended period…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 09:19 PM
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I'm always willing to listen to someone else's opinion. I make 3 main assertions. Agree or disagree with each individually. Feminists and corporate bosses are the primary groups pushing for immigration They are intentionally bringing young men into western nations and leaving women behind. Corporate bosses because they want cheap labor and men will work longer hours for less pay. Feminists because the ethnic division creates a male voter base that they think will help them fuck over working clas…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 08:31 PM
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Oh, I've been there. I know. Usually I'm in fantastic shape, but when I was building a startup company the stress ate me alive for while and I eventually ate my feelings. If you think men are hardasses about overweight women... about 15% are chubby chasers. The difference is that men just are assholes in how they express their tastes, while women sugar coat the shit out of it. I will say this though... there are some cultures where about 10-20% of the female population are chubby chasers too, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 05:50 PM
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Sure, in red rural areas. But have you been watching what's happening in blue places like urban or even rural California? Texans seems to have the will to survive but I don't see much evidence in a lot of other places. I live in a VERY blue area of the west coast. I used to own a bunch of rental houses around the area but between 2018 and 2019, I sold up and bought vacation rentals instead. I can tell you two things about politics. How the upper middle class votes determines the direction and po…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 05:46 PM
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Which pretty much frees us from the myth that women don't want/care about/respect men, doesn't it? Uh... yeah, in the same way slavemasters respect their slaves. Or, perhaps you have another reason why they ONLY support the immigration of young single men with a penchant for raping women of the lower classes? I mean we aren't talking all women. We are just talking about the ideological feminists who actually have power in places like Whitehall. Right. Because women are continually overcome with …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 05:34 PM
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I don't think you are going to like that answer. One of the most effective strategies to gain permanent control over a country with the goal of enriching yourself and those around out is what the Romans called "divide et impera"... or divide and rule. The English used the divisions betwen Hindu and Muslim to rule India... and tribal conflicts in Africa. That's why all these countries are divided up so that ethnicities that hate one another must battle it out for control based on artificial lines…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 04:42 PM
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Let me quote one of my favorite songs on the topic. "Well I got the pistol, so I get the pesos. Yeah that seems fair!" The difference between wealth and power is actually immense. Jack Ma thought he had power being one of the richest men in the world. Then Xi put him in prison and took his company. Those who wield the power of violence make the rules. Gold can sometimes buy them off, but at the end of the day, we are all at the mercy of these folks. You are correct that it has always been this w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 04:33 PM
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You guys are absolutely fucked! Two Tier Kier is going to turn your island into a shithole to rival Haiti, and you poor losers can't do anything to stop him and his ilk. This is why I'm glad to be in the US. We have mad immigration... more than you, but the people coming over are damn good folks on the whole. Plus, you also see the police here have stopped doing their jobs, but in the rural working class areas, it's still safe because 80% of the population is packing. That grooming shit would no…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 04:25 PM
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Though local women are more against Ukrainian women. If you made immigration 100% single women under 40, with no kids allowed and no ability to drag family members over within a 20 year period. Women would fucking shit a brick. They would shut down immigration so God Damned fast it would blow your mind. They see immigration as an increase in the options for dick. It's that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 04:15 PM
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It depends on the men. If we took in 10 million Chinese or Indian men, Buddhists, Hindus, Sikhs.... I seriously doubt most men would see them as invaders. These guys generally are not racists and desire to live peacful harmonious lives. Plus... they are much more likely to support men's rights. Now... if you switch that to Somali's or Afghans... Fuck No! These guys are racist mutherfuckers to the core and massively violent. They also are totally willing to work with women's groups to gain power …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 04:13 PM
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I think the change is very cool. I can't decide though if the change is because of more relaxed gender roles... or if it's because these things have become "Cool" and women always like what is culturally supported?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 04:05 PM
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I mean when RP guys talk about “Chad,” it seems to just be defined as any guy who monopolizes female attention in any social situation. It's a new generation, and Black Pill boys call themselves Red Pill. I don’t think it matters so much to people how much effort behind the scenes that said “Chad” put into becoming “Chad.” They focus so much on looks, because the assumption is that these guys were just "born with it". I remember having the exact same beliefs about wealth when I was a kid. My fat…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 04:03 PM
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The point I was making is that it isn't a giant conspiracy. The big investors who have been making money hand over fist in commercial real estate since the 1950s are all rapidly shifting money into residential... but NOT in building new stuff because government regulation is fucking insane. CA is trying to tackle that since they are the absolute worst, we will see if it works. The truth is that commercial real estate has to come back, but probably at a lower price and we need to regulate how the…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 03:56 PM
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People still play Warcraft?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 03:24 PM
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That was not my experience at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 03:23 PM
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He made that comment before he was a VP pick and long before Harris was the nominee. I think it's from 2021. My suspicion is that he was targeting some feminists in the federal bureacracy. I think it's no secret that the original feminists believed that children were something that held women back and made their lives worse. This strain of thinking has only become more popular if less overt. I believe he is taking a jab an the whole ideology, not one person in particular. It actually reminds me …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 03:14 PM
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I've seen chubby pale metalheads get a shit ton of attention at more alternative venues with different crowds. Probably not so much at a resort bar full of frat boys and sorority girls. I've not seen anyone go after the chubby metalheads... even on their own turf. When I travel i hike a lot and meet a lot of fellow hikers, the guys getting attention are usually skinny bearded introverts who may or may not have showered in the past 3-4 days. I totally agree with this. It's all about the crowd. Ye…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 02:57 PM
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The second bullet point was about sorority girls only going after "frat-types." Because the other women didn't go after anyone. Which is a valid point IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 02:50 PM
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Isn’t “Chad” defined as a guy who always has women throwing themselves at him? Chad doesn't exist. I greatly dislike these names for conventionally attractive people. You know in the late 2000s we used this term almost entirely in a disparaging manner to describe wealthy althletic men who had zero game or charimsa and just relied completly on their looks/money to attract women. That's why the name sounds like a villian from an 80s movie. Of course the 4Chan idiots looked at this completely diffe…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 02:49 PM
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Louis XV notably did have children. 10 of them. So… pretty clearly having a bevy of kids doesn’t make someone among the elite give a shit about how anything affects families among the general population. I'm using the out of context Karl Marx quote of this particular king. Louis XV was just an idiot, and I think that leads into a solid point you make which is : Like what difference is it if it’s a woman without babies versus some clueless billionaire who doesn’t give a shit about anyone but his …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 09:45 PM
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Yes, reality is a conspiracy theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 09:36 PM
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I think they should be, but I'm not here to tell people how to live. I just want the people who set family policy to be people who actually know what families need and care about them. Which is two things the vast majority of feminists are incapable of doing. It's like putting Hamas in charge of housing for Jews. You don't put someone who hates people in charge of the people they hate... this is basic shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 09:29 PM
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Washington was a devoted step father... and it has long been believed that he didn't have children with Martha, because he instead was in love with a black woman and simply couldn't be public about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 09:26 PM
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My sister doesn’t have kids. She is very invested in mine. That isn't parenting. And I will repeat, the statement hits hard because it goes directly at the policies and actions of people who absolutley don't give a shit about the future beyond themselves and are currently running things.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 09:24 PM
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Sex IS reproduction from an instinctual level. I'm not going to go into whether conjugation in bacteria is analygous to sex or not. Suffice it to say that the exceptions are not worthy of discussion because they have similar processes and also much less complexity. We don't kill, rape, steal, or even simply have consensual sex everytime we have the occasion. We are able to refrain from scratching, we're able to self inflict pain, sleep deprivation and hunger if it is needed for our other life go…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 09:13 PM
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Have you ever read even 1 feminist author?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 07:34 PM
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I think it's very telling that in a Roman legion, you were punished if you broke formation or left your place in combat to seize an initiative, even if it worked. Absolutely! Any kind of complex tactical manouvre required... absolutely required everyone to perform their role perfectly. This was make or break for most armies and it's why Rome was able to just slaughter Germanic Tribes like they were nothing. If you want to compare, any army in China during this time period would have probably ste…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 07:29 PM
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I you ask me, a pretty abstract and overly altruistic move asking for quite the very long term goal oriented planning. There is a difference between thoughts and instincts. I feel like you are assume men should override thier instincts while assuming women should not. Attraction and mate value requirements are instinctual processes that women follow. Birth control is the reason they aren't having children, it's not like they are going into their 40's as virgins. Men also have these instincts whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 07:20 PM
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Point to me someone who actually thinks the modern world is the greatest time period to live, and I'll point to you someone who fundamentally doesn't value anything without material substance I don't know why, but I appreciate the eloquence of your posts more than most people! The SPQR-Pill logo kind of get's me, because it's a throwback to this sense of Honor that people used to have, but that nobody values anymore. It's still alive within Asian Cultures to a degree... and maybe that's why I th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 07:08 PM
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You don't see it? Let's just say there is a heavily urban culture that is completely anti-children. I don't know exactly what to call them, because our political system are basically umbrella parties with multiple coalitions. But the anti-child cat ladies are one of the most powerful groups within their political coalition, and if you look have tons of high ranking positions within the federal bureaucracy. Maybe you don't live in a highly progressive area, so you don't interact with these folks …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 07:04 PM
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First of all I don't believe you looked up all the companies that are buying houses and then looked up the share ownership of those companies. That's a shitload of work for basically no reason. Either do the work yourself and come to your own conclusion, or shut your yapper. I have a lot of personal investment in some of these companies that buy and rent residential. But secondly you, fundamentally, do not understand what ownership means. Blackrock does not own a controlling stake (more than 50%…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 06:28 PM
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Uh, plenty of childless people have held positions of power and influence. They still care about other people and families and the future, what's with this weird insistence that they don't?? Stop listening to what people say and instead watch what they DO. Also, you are right that I'm saying Cat Ladies, but what I mean is Cat People. Nothing they do is good for children. I have not seen even 1 policy come from this group that actually works. It's all bullshit claims, they take tons of money and …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 06:19 PM
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They don't 🌝 That's not how supply and demand works 🌝 Hahaha... Larry Fink said the same thing. Then I noticed for 4 years almost 20-30% of all home purchases were from institutional investors. I look up the companies who are buying houses and... sure as shit a good chunk of them are owned by BlackRock. "BlackRock doesn't buy single family homes"... sure, but the companies they own DO. Anyone who isn't an idiot can look at the collapse of Commercial Real Estate values and then see that the capit…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 06:10 PM
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You are welcome! I have always felt you make this space better.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 06:03 PM
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We didn't diagnose the same way in the past. What are the chances Sir Isaac Newton was on the spectrum? What is most of the great inventors of the past were as well? Actually, I think there is a chance Newton was not only on the spectrum but also gay... but that's a discussion for another thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 06:01 PM
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Nah it's actually pretty great though. Our material lives are better, but our social and spiritual lives are deteriorating rapidly. There is also a looming Totalitarianism building, and public safety has been cut in half since 2010 in most places.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:58 PM
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A family is a fundamental part of the American dream, and the dream of most countries. I think that's why the government being run by Cat Ladies comment hits so hard. It's not that there is anything wrong with being a cat lady, it's just that people like that don't give a shit about the future and don't understand what is required to run a family... and so they are totally unqualified to actually be in charge of how our government handles these issues. You can look at what they do in office and …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:55 PM
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LOL... Yeah the cost of housing is not going up, Blackrock does not buy up whole zip codes and then jack rents through the roof. I'm so tired of the Urban Monoculture fools. You aren't going to convince people that thier life experiences aren't real. When they show up at a terriyaki shop they used to frequent in 2019 and find the price has doubled, and then you tell them inflation is only 3%... they aren't stupid, they won't believe you. Well... I take that back. Some of them ARE stupid and do b…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:50 PM
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“Generally masculine” can include having a masculine appearance, masculine mannerisms, and even choosing to opt in to certain masculine coded roles so long as they are not harming your mental health or harming others. It’s like the difference between being assertive vs. being aggressive. They are not the same thing. For women to be able to see the difference between assertive and aggressive requires either some kind of parental example/teaching or experience. Otherwise I completely agree with yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:42 PM
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I think when women are very young (teens) they tend to confuse dark triad traits for masculine traits. The main issue with the Red Pill... and this has been from day 1, is that it hyper focuses on College age women. It's partly because the ideas were formed by men in that age group originally, but also because a lot of guys really want to chase that age group hard and idealize it. I think as you also once pointed out... the Red Pill is almost exclusively a thing for the English Speaking world, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:26 PM
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Men who are naturally not dominant or naturally not too competent would probably do better dating women less dominant and less competent than himself. Uncomfortable reality, but sort of true. LOL.. I was raised to be a soft guy.... a people pleaser. As a result, I was VERY attracted to dominant women. Dating them when I was younger really felt like riding a shark, where one slip up and they would eat me alive. Most of us would see this as a bad thing, but over time it really allowed me to overco…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:11 PM
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We have structured society so that it doesn't really matter what I think or how I feel. Reproduction is the number one goal of all life and the ability to do so determines all of your value. If you don't believe that, or want other people to think differently... then you better be out on the street corner telling people about God. Otherwise you are just being a hypocrit. These are things we MUST do in order to be successful, and it's the most important thing in life. The other option is to chang…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:57 PM
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It's just not being able to tell between key traits. Confidence vs Arrogance and stuff like that. This has been Red Pill theory for over a decade.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 08:01 PM
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An example of toxic masculinity would be repression of emotions, and the stigma that created on mental health care for men. Anger is the primary emotion that I repress. I find people tend to be very uncomfortable with male expressions of anger. Actually, repressing is not really what I do. It's better described as compartmentalizing. I do this with a lot of stuff like anxiety as well. Are you sure that this is toxic? Male suicide rates would be evidence of this. I thought about this a lot over t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 08:00 PM
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But in general single fathers are meet with less hostility and controversy. I think provided the moms are actually in the kids life and are paying the required amount of child support, people would generally see this as a positive. I really don't think the goal is to have single parents though. Maybe multigenerational living could solve a lot of issues that children face in single parent homes? But ultimately the goal needs to be to keep families together. Especially boys, since theirs this beli…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 07:23 PM
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And that would be a positive outcome? For your wife to have felt she had no right to say no? I can't answer for her. All I know is that this issue is what made me stop working in the relationship, which caused all the other problems and traumas downstream of it. I think that a relationship requires a certain amount of putting your partner first, and sex is part of that equation. If you combine the zero sex, and low sex marriages in the US together, it's almost 50%. So clearly something isn't wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 06:29 PM
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Why does the male peacock have colorful feathers, puff them up, and do a mating dance? This is clearly a huge detriment to thier long term survival.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 06:11 PM
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when you know them in real life, its easier to know that the little things are outweighed by their personality (if thats the case). This is why online dating is failing people so hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 05:59 PM
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You can be physically attractive, generally “masculine,” and avoid engaging in toxic behavior. Explain what you mean by generally masculine, and toxic behavior. Also, are you implying some kind of universal physical attractiveness that men can have?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 05:57 PM
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I think you need to explain two things, first how it causes harm, and second why that harm is worse than any benefit that it provides.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 05:54 PM
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I believe that a minority of women specifically like bad boys. I think most young women go through this as a phase. It lasts forever with some.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 05:47 PM
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LOL... Listening to people who have successful relationships is wise, while the rest of us just listen to bitter losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 05:45 PM
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It was explicit. I don't remember the exact wording but they didn't mince words. I'm talking, "No right to say no cuz he's your husband" level shit. I wonder what they told the husbands? If I had been married in that church I would probably still be married today with children in college. How many churches did you and your ex-wife go to? First, her parents church. Then I pushed to look around and over about a 2 year period we tried 8 other churches... eventually compromising on her parents churc…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 05:43 PM
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Tall at least makes some surface sense. Height is tied to childhood nutrition, which is in turn tied to wealth, which is in turn tied to tall parents, which is in turn tied to generational wealth... Tall signals "good provider" on an instinctual level. It's tied to pasturalist milk drinking more than anything, but I generally agree. Purity is related primarily to known paternity, and less disease. I suspect this is why the ancients placed a higher bride price on purity. There has almost always b…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 05:36 PM
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I got married at 20 someone that I started dating at 18. I was in university at the time. I really feel like it's going to be difficult for you because while he is probably going to grow into a fantastic man, that process can be bumpy and rough... sometimes leave you feeling like you are raising a kid at times. Usually age 22-25 is the worst for this after university. So, you will have to be mentally prepared to deal with this... sometimes pay for him and sometimes teach him/lead him into being …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 05:19 PM
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The more I read your stuff, the more I get the sense you are brilliant at understanding peopel and seeing the clear path to conflict resolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 05:11 PM
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Imagine a man being considered better looking just because he is taller. None of these things hold up to rational thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 05:03 PM
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How I see it, is that this rhetoric, similar to the use of the word Cuck, is used to essentially brand these men as both losers and inadvertent traitors. The obvious implication is that the men should therefore give up simping and join with other men in solidarity. That idea has some value. Men should stand together against a lot of this bullshit and we should be attacking men who support things like telling little boys they are defective because they have masculine desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 04:36 PM
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China is neither western nor feminist in nature. Most of Asia absolutely demands that women become worthy, and places inherent value on boys and men who can carry on the family.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 04:32 PM
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What makes you think she didn’t come from purity culture? Plenty of feminists are influenced by purity culture and have internalized misogyny. Plenty of feminists expect men to subscribe to traditional gender roles. Anti-feminists point this out often, and it’s true. Many don’t but many do. You can’t totally escape culture. This is just silly. She could have been raised on the moon by aliens and Feminists would claim she absorbed purity culture through radio waves or something. You can recognize…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 03:36 PM
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The one I was raised in definitely was telling me from the time that I was a teenager that a woman's job was to keep her husband happy, and that "wifely duties" (said differently, but the same concept) were absolutely a thing if you want to be a good and godly wife Did they tell you explicitly or is this a conclusion you came to based on their overall model of how to be a wife? I'm sorry the church you went to tried to make you feel shitty about taking care of your sexual needs solo, that's fuck…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 02:47 PM
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Correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 02:40 PM
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If you want kids, then traditionally 32 is about the last shot before it that's getting hard... and women are rated based on thier fertility more than pretty much anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 04:54 AM
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Fucking A! You people are just crazy as shit! No, they don't. My Xwife made me go through all those shitty fucking classes in one of the most strict fundamentalist churches in the country and that absolutely was NOT something they taught. If it happens it's done by individual families, but I've never even heard somone say this shit and I spent 7 years with them. Do you know what they told me? They told me that I need to do whatever my Xwife felt like doing and that I wasn't allowed to watch porn…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 01:13 AM
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Of course it’s cultural. Why would women be afraid to admit they like sex? That’s cultural. There’s no biological reason to pretend to not like sex. That won’t help propogate the species. I feel like you don't know any of these women. Don't make the mistake of assume all women are just like you. Some women like high levels of pursuit, some like high levels of force, some are asexual, some like to chase you around the bed. If you know one woman, you know one woman. The TikTok girl is not a virgin…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 12:51 AM
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They do that to the elderly and disabled, and anyone else that is vulnerable and lonely. So does Maga, so do MRAs, it's all the same grift. LOL... My father ran a union PAC. I started doing political work at age 12 phone banking and door knocking. From age 18-28, I did a ton of work for the DNC in both paid and volunteer positions. I was a precinct officer and a state delegate. While it blows my mind that fools will send their money to a billionaire to fund his campaign... I sort of get it. But …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 12:35 AM
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I think you have no experience in this thing. I actually converted for a woman in this culture and married her. All of her friends and their husbands are actually still good friends of mine today. Since I got divorced about 14 years ago, I've dated a lot of women who will dead bedroom you really fast if you aren't aggressive enough. None of them are part of purity culture. The issues with the purity stuff is NOT sexual. That part actually works out great for most people. The real problem is that…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 12:05 AM
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It’s fun 🤩 so a lot more sexually liberated girls playing into it No, women who enter marriage after purity culture have sex 3 to 4 times a week on average even decades after marriage. The husbands are not sexually aggressive men. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but purity culture is NOT the most likely cause. Where you do see an insane amount of dead bedroom issues and men complaining about having to damn near be a rapist to get laid... is with high dominance women. Older guys would call them…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 12:00 AM
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A lot of this comes from purity culture where women aren’t supposed to desire sex. I hear feminists say this stuff all the time, but it's just cope because they hate purity culture. Almost every study that has ever looked at the topic shows a correlation between women with dominant personalities, and the amount of force they desire in beginning sexual encounters. Women like that are toxic. Men who assume women mean “try harder” when they say no are toxic as well By believing this is something ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 11:47 PM
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I agree, I feel so bad for those linked in with prosperity gospel, and other religions that decree you should listen to a person instead of your heart. I know a guy who has a couple of kids and his wife doesn't work. He has a heart condition. I think all he needs is a pacemaker, but the guy is absolutely terrified. He is a computer programmer and makes really good money has platinum insurance... no financial issues. However, these prosperity gospel AHoles came along and promised that if he sent …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 10:34 PM
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keanu's early stuff is especially good, hes so beautiful in river's edge I always felt he was an exceptionally handsome guy. It seems obvious now, but I didn't find out he was half Chinese until... I must have been almost 30. no checking isn't allowed but its still a high contact sport I'm going to think about this! Thank you! definitely worth trying it out and seeing if she likes it, if she's a great skater she can skate circles around people. she could be a winger focused on scoring goals rath…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 09:31 PM
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I like to think about it as any belief system that seems designed to be exploited. Prosperity gospel is absolutely disgusting in this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 09:24 PM
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There is a difference between irrational hatred, and rational judgement.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 09:22 PM
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Well Honey Bunny, the Prince of Peace obviously had zero effect on His followers so… If we can’t measure a religious sect by their actions, how the fuck can we measure them? I'm suggesting that we judge religions based on the good things they do and not just the bad. “Believe in evolution” Science is. I dont' worship science. Evolution is a theory... a theory with an astounding amount of evidence. The point is that sexual selection determines human nature, and the primary driving force right now…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 09:19 PM
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None. I have been forced to conclude that I don't like the implications of what seems true. That said... I have ruled out any religion whose basic ideology is Do X and Recieve Y.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 09:07 PM
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gender roles What if it's deeper than that? What if maybe it's an effect of testosterone on the brain? to dominate is to be masculine (in our toxic worldview) This is a fact. so when a man feels insecure, the ways he can assure himself (and others) that he is masculine is by acting out w violence and/or dominating others I think this is true, and it's so true that people seriously need to talk about it much, much more. When I was young, and very insecure, I did feel more desire to control what o…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 09:02 PM
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LOL i do love john wick true. i did used to play hockey and i've been in a bar fight so i have a killer instinct in me somewhere its just been a long time. I came to this conclusion years ago that I just love Keanu Reeves movies despite my belief his acting style is almost animatronic. You played Hockey? Do the women play as rough as the men do?x I ask because my daughter is a figure skater, and damn good. For her age she is #2 in the state right now and we almost have as many people as Sweden. …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 08:57 PM
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Are you going to explain how the Watchtower interpretation of Abrahamic scripture is any more “wrong” than any other sect? Nope. I used to work in ambulances and my number one craziness with JWs is how so many of them refuse blood transfusion for their children. I don't think that's an interpretation error... do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 08:50 PM
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I love that your argument is that there are other historical Imperialists, conquerors, crusaders, and monsters so that makes it okay. We aren't talking about whether it's OK or not. Clearly it isn't We are talking about whether this is caused by a particular Religion, or Human Nature. Using your “logic” as it were, women have every right to discriminate against awkward and unattractive men no matter how awesome and loving they are, because “So what if European men committed genocide in Jesus’ na…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 08:43 PM
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i dont think having a positive relationship w someone is a net good bc it could be a good person burning themselves out to maintain a peaceful relationship with a bully. That is a good point. If your parents are terrible and abusive... then in my opinion they should be on their own. my parents, like many, many, many parents were abusive and i had to separate myself from them to heal and learn that love actually isn't being afraid of the people who "love you" all the time and submitting to whatev…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 08:37 PM
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but certainly were in agreement on how we lived our lives in regards to others. I find I get along very well with members of all peace churches. This is one of the primary ways I evaluate a belief set. When I was young the first religion I looked at joining was Islam. I really like parts of it... the cultural aspects that aren't from the religion are... well, I'm just going to say I'm not a fan. However, I once I read the Hadiths... This probably isn't the space for my thoughts on this. I just s…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 08:05 PM
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I share this belief. I wonder why though? Is it from childhood trauma or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 07:51 PM
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“The Crusades were not peaceful and annihilated ancient cultures and history like squashing bugs, and also oppressed and continues to oppress people of color and women. Get outta here with that “Christians are peaceful” horseshit, thousands of cultures, languages, texts, and structures were destroyed in the search for gold and domination Christians called “witnessing”. There were at least 8 major crusades, and each of them were very different. However, I think you might want to stop and consider…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 07:47 PM
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I follow Quaker teachings as much as I can That is a very strong and in my opinion respectable belief set. I feel they have a strong commitement to peace, and experiencing the feeling of spirituality. My faith believes that God lives inside all of us, we are all the children of God and can have our own intimate relationship with the divine. I'm pretty hardcore agnostic, but I think this should fit what we see in the human experience. I look at the Old Testament and while people do come to the He…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 07:27 PM
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Totally agree! Fantastic people, but have you actually talked to them about what they believe?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 07:20 PM
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I already covered the income aspect, that not having kids means + having my own business = I don't view men as providers, since I'm already providing for myself. So, in your opinion, the desire for a man who has higher income than herself is driven primarily by a need to provide for children? Or do you see it as more driven by a desire for a certain level of status or lifestyle? I don't like tall men, they inherently make me feel like I'm being loomed over and it's disturbing. It may go back to …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 07:19 PM
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I have a daughter, and her mom has become fairly religious, as is her fiance. The last time I spoke to her about it... this won't be something that I push. Her mom is not going to make a big deal about it either. The only thing I really care about is that I want her to make sure it's a guy who really loves her and cares about her. Also... I've been so psychologically damaged by hookup culture myself, I will not by shy in explaining why I think it's a bad idea. Of course it's going to be her choi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 07:13 PM
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The prosperity Bible is about as far away from Christ's teaching as you can get. I've studied all major religions. Prosperity Gospel is predatory in my opinion, and I don't know why Christians are not more vocal in attacking them. If I was Christian... I would be going after these scammers all the time. I think you can take the teachings of Jesus in a lot of different directions. I spoke to a professor of religion a few years back who doesn't believe there ever was a Jesus. I'm not sure I would …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 07:06 PM
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Hahaha... Hell No! I've known many JWs over the years and they are crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 07:02 PM
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Boy, bye. I am not here for religious’s bigotry from anyone whose sect arose from Abraham. Yeah, I'm not a follower, but also not an irrational hater. I’m so sure that the Trail of Tears, Redlining, segregation, and slavery were akin to petting kittens by your metric. All of these are US based atrocities. My question is, how familiar are you with their counterparts in other countries and cultures? You need to be very careful when you only look at the terrible things that happen in only one count…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 07:00 PM
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I'm pretty lucky, on an individual level, to be childfree and to own my business and be debt free...it means I don't care about any man's money or career or status. This leaves those "slots" open for totally different priorities. Most women just lean heavier into height, income, and looks, from what I see. I wonder if not wanting, or not being able to have children changes that?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 06:26 PM
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Neither of us had such beliefs. There was a strong desire for intimacy... and I think maybe also for her a chance to give her controlling abusive father the middle finger.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 06:09 PM
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Yeah I’m not doing this. Violence and extermination has been done in the name of every Abrahamic sect. The Crusades were not peaceful and annihilated ancient cultures and history like squashing bugs, and also oppressed and continues to oppress people of color and women. Get outta here with that “Christians are peaceful” horseshit, thousands of cultures, languages, texts, and structures were destroyed in the search for gold and domination Christians called “witnessing”. What you mean to say is th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 06:08 PM
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It was changing as the middle class was growing, but now it's backsliding post COVID with the economies shrinking. I don't think anyone is currently prepared for what happens if a huge global recession hits.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 05:55 PM
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What is the comparative decline for women? Looks like 3.9 at N count 1, to 3.7 at N count 12.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 05:53 PM
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If you were facing a situation where before marriage a female member of your future husbands family is expected to confirm your virginity... you might think about this differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 05:43 PM
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Some cultures have not really caught up to changes in technology. I had a friend who did NGO work in Africa and they would have women just beg and beg for birth control. When they gave it to them, they would go home and thier husbands would beat them for it and throw it away.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 05:40 PM
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I just don't understand the western atheist hatred for soft peaceful Christians, and the love for an Islam that will literally behead you for living the way you want. I wasn't interested in finding a religious loophole for her or myself, the goal was avoid long term issues for HER with the religious nutters in her community, while her family considered my marriage proposal. This wasn't because she believed.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 05:38 PM
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(and I am particularly NOT usually a fan of "Paul") Paul just endlessly repeats what Jesus taught. That's the whole New Testament in fact. It's kind of like if you don't like one, then you don't like any of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 05:30 PM
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There are rich celebrities whose wives cheat on them and theirs probably nothing low value about them. I’m simply trying to say, you should be with someone not because of their sexual choices but because you actually really fuck with them. I genuinely think if I had a homie we could live together, of course we’d never have sex though, cause i’m not gay. Damn sure i’m not gonna be like hey bro you can’t be fucking all these women! Like Will Smith? That poor fucker went from well respected to ever…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 05:23 PM
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That is probably correct. I don't know, I have dated a woman who claimed to like it a lot, but she was also cool with never doing it... for whatever that is worth..
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 05:12 PM
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I wouldn't argue with you on that point. However, if you are dealing with a culture that has virginity hyseria... you gotta do what you gotta do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 05:06 PM
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This is a feminist line of thinking whereby "male sexuality" is dirty. It's incorrect in so many ways, and like most of the other stuff feminists say, it's just their own fantasy. The key factor here is that male sexuality is seen as dominant and female sexuality as submissive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 05:03 PM
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If you think about it, there are just so many other things that women are trying to get in a man that this tends to get pushed to the side frequently. Since I'm a guy who has a really high number... I know what kind of impact that has, and in my personal opinion most women should put it at your priority level. It should be more important than income or height... but rarely is. I think people are fooling themselves when they measure this against relationship satisfaction. That is important for wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 04:58 PM
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I have it on good authority that neither Moses Nor St Peter will let that slide. At the time we were only worried about what Mohammad would say about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 04:55 PM
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Where?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 04:45 PM
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I suspect some guys are just curious to see how it feels. I've also seen some porn scenes with this and I just notice the actresses portraying the feeling of pain. I wonder if that play into it in any way. As for myself... I tried it once. It took a lot of prep, including some pre-stretching, and she still found it painful, and I didn't particularly enjoy it myself. I have zero interest in this. I suspect I just don't watch enough porn, or it may also be that my kinks lie in other directions.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 04:41 PM
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The benefits are you can usually skip the condom, and it's got a little bit different feel to it, and your partner can technically remain a virgin. The negatives are... Yeah it takes a lot of prep and even if you do that it can still both stink and miss some stuff. Also... it can be pretty painful for the woman especially if you are on the bigger side. I wonder if the attraction some guys have to this has less to do with the feel, and more to do with... let's just say the power implications of a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 04:29 PM
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I don't think that's actually what it says. Look at the graphs.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 04:21 PM
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I'm just saying that men who think like this do so not because they are intelligent but because they are low value. Why would your wife want to go fuck other men? Because you aren't getting it done. An intelligent man would look at this situation, realize the potential for STDs, pregnancy, falling in love with another man and leaving, and simply effort/resources going towards other males and realize the high probability of disaster. It takes a low intelligence man to just do whatever the woman w…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 04:06 PM
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That difference in priority has a HUGE impact though. I suspect that all the women freaking out over getting judged on this... what they are actually struggling with is understanding why it's such a high priority for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 03:55 PM
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It isn't a double standard. This is why you are wrong about intelligent men being able to deal with their partners fucking other people. This is a polyamory argument and I've messed around with this community a lot. It's not about intelligence, it's about weakness. Pathetic and weak males twist themselves around mentally until they can enjoy watching thier woman with other men... also a lot of them are very bisexual. On the otheer end, there are very masculine men who just don't care that much a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 03:02 PM
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I'm a woman, and despite some dudes here claiming that "women never care about men's high N", I'm vehemently against dating any man who's had a lot of casual sex partners. Studies have been showing that women and men both seem to prefer partners with about 3-4 past sexual partners for marriage. The difference is that women just don't care quite as much as men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 02:55 PM
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well yeah having extra money to throw at problems is way better than dealing w problems directly i dont disagree with that I think it's important to have a good relationship with money. When you have a lot of things you want... then it can lead to an obession with money. Or when you start to see money as a form of status. Money is a byproduct of doing things other people find valuable. Once you acquire it... then you should make it work for you. i'm going to be forced to do my best with my paren…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 02:52 PM
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It seems evident when you say it. Stupid question: so when we talk with people we must just try to be fun and interesting, without really talking about us It makes sense, but also a little sad, like we always must have masks You definitely want to talk about yourself. Tell all of your fun and interesting stories. I'm sure funny things have happened to you a few times in your life. It's not about wearing masks. It's about choosing what parts to show people of yourself and your life when you know …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 02:45 PM
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no i'd rather die than shoot someone 🤷‍♀️ One of the things about having a weapon on premise is that when confronted with a gun, most intruders immediately flee. Also, when you are in public it doesn't just protect you, but also the people around you. In my opinion death isn't the thing to worry about... it's what they do to you before you die that scares me. might be able to do this at some point, like if i think about how an intruder might hurt my dog lol. but i'm not there yet. LOL... This ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 02:16 PM
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I have no personal instagram, just an insta with some photos I make, and I don't really use it, I was more into traditional websites, so I have a lot to rebuild ! I did not build my Instagram originally just to be more successful with women. I started a photography company, and it was a way for me to display pictures of my work. I had a full time job as well, so I could only do this work on the weekends and didn't have time to promote. I had a personal Instagram and then one for my company as we…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 01:52 PM
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Well, I actually got involved in the Red Pill directly. We had a message board that was private and invite only. We recruited from websites like Return of Kings. We despised the losers on Reddit. We had weekly meet-ups and joining required a one time $50 payment and someone to vouch for you. Eventually we would go international trips together... cost sharing and everything. Like I got a great deal on a place in Bogata and I went for 2 weeks and I think 10 other guys some just dropping in for 3 o…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 02:33 AM
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Haha... I assume that means you have your concealed carry license.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 10:34 PM
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You did that alone? I always got together with the Red Pill Bros and we just had a wild fun time. Actually some of the absolute best experiences had nothing to do with women. In my opinion what we need is more time doing stuff with other guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 10:33 PM
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I put a lot of effort into Instagram pictures. I control it very tightly. It's the best way to make your life seem fun and awesome. I have a huge mix of stuff, a lot of both introvert and extrovert activities. With male friends or mixed groups and also alone. But always doing something, always editing the photos, always selling the idea of my life that I want. Issue with numbers is that people just don't connect that way anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 10:28 PM
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There are some very important ideas. You must learn things that people find interesting. Create jokes and memorize them on this topic. I would make the same jokes over and over. Eventually, I learned how to be funny instantly. If you practice something you become good at it. I started by talking with elderly men and women. When they laughed I felt good and would try the joke over and over. Also I learned to listen. To hear what people say and feel comfortable with long pauses and silence. If you…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 10:23 PM
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Post your situation and I will give you some ideas. This is not a simple thing, and it changes based on the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 10:15 PM
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I was referencing China and Vietnam primarily.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 10:01 PM
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I was sleepy and inarticulate. My point is that living alone isn't enough to be safe, with the direction most places are going.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 10:01 PM
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Well... I'm destined for it since my sister is completely useless. Both of my parents are a royal pain in the butt. My mom is infuriating and crazy, my dad is the most stubborn and messy man on planet earth... but also extremely generous. Still, with joy comes suffering, and pleasure needs pain. So, I'm resolved to pay the best caretakers available to deal with them when the time comes. 🤣🤣 It is true that money cannot buy happiness, but it can definitely make problems easier to solve. I hope you…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 09:59 PM
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I did, and kept doing. I usually date 2-3 at a time in short term relationships. My problem is that it's still fun and I don't want to stop. So, do you feel like you proved her wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 05:17 AM
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For me, I had a huge emotional investment, because I got divorced and my terrible ex wife basically laughed and said nobody would want me. I got so good at talking that I wound up in a high level sales job making a quarter mil a year. Also improved my body and other stuff. So, for me, I never had the dancing monkey feeling because I was so sharply focused on proving her wrong. Afterwards, it just feels like I'm in control.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 04:17 AM
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It all depends on where you live and how orderly the society around you is... most western nations are moving towards disorder at a rapid pace. The UK for some reason has gone from essentially 2 to 6,000 rapes at knifepoint a year. I know everyone tosses out the stats that men you live with are the most dangerous... but that's highly misleading. Because socioeconomics are a huge contributing factor. Also.... as you stated, you can always just choose to remain apart. So you can have some control …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 03:23 AM
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I'm not that pessimistic on it really. You get heavy parental investment... they really make sure you succeed in life and you inherit. Plus they help you with kids all the way... free childcare and such. But like everything in life if your parents are crap... it sucks, but if they are great it's awesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 02:24 AM
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With 3 billion women out there... 1 in 1,000 puts you in a good spot. The thing about learning skills is that it benefits you more than anyone else. But I mean hey, if it's too much effort... I get you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 02:14 AM
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Have you ever considered that it isn't an accident? That maybe some people benefit from putting young men at a disadvantage?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 01:53 AM
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My cousin is 500 pounds and has a body count of 3. His current GF isn't a raving beauty, but not horrible either. His primary trait is being very funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 12:36 AM
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It makes no sense in modern terms because our system has been capitalist for so long. I've spent time in communist countries... more than one actually. Children are your most important investment. There is no social security, no 401k, no pension plans. Everyone knows they will age and that the hard physical labor will become impossible... and that your children will care for you. Those without Children are people in a precarious position and no long term future.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 12:17 AM
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I used to volunteer with this group that finds housing for the homeless. My part was getting employers to give them jobs to help them get back on track. All I can say is that the streets are so unsafe. In a choice between home and streets... your home would have to be really bad to be less safe than the streets. I met women that took insane... truly insane abuse on a daily basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 09:39 PM
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My face isn't that great, but I do extremely well. Of course I was invisible before I learned game. Face is important for sure, but maybe less important than body, and neither are as important as charm and verbal ability.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 09:21 PM
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I grew up surrounded by that lie. I have a hard time blaming these guys who fall into it. A lot of times they don't want to be stuck is this castrated male zone, it's just the confidence that boys should be given as part of the growing up process has been replaced with shame and attacks on thier sexuality. How can you expect them to respond in any other way?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 09:17 PM
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So... you are saying that you are wrong and it's not 100% just your face?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 08:58 PM
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If you really believe that shit... then go find a woman who likes your face and stop whining.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 07:45 PM
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If you like her then she should know and not do this. If you don't like her in that way, you should laugh your butt off and tell her exactly where she stands with this guy. Men only run into issues when they try to play gay bestie and secretly have an attraction, which is a strategy we should all despise.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 07:23 PM
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You HAVE to flirt. You must make them know your intent. Also if you go out with some female friends and can't find your way into their discussion... that's on you kid. Learn how to talk to people. Don't be boring, be funny, be passionate, be interesting. You have to find your voice and not be a wallflower.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 07:17 PM
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Not really. I've been through periods of being quite the social butterfly, periods of being a bit of a hermit, and now my current situation which I would describe as social butterfly with strong boundaries. Nor for the record were my friends. I think it's always a little funny that men think if you don't want piles of unrequested attention you must be introverted. Even though definitionally, extroversion is just about having your battery filled by socializing...it doesn't say socializing with ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 02:49 PM
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It's not a conspiracy of an entire gender. Like imagine how insane you sound when you say "women want" as if my wife, who is not American, does not live in America, is showhow living her life to serve some American feminist agenda or making decisions to help "women" win "against men". People like that sound batshit insane to everyone who isn't some psychotic, always-online gender warrior. The core issue here is that poeple just aren't talking about you or your situation on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 01:57 PM
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That changes everything. I know for fact you have put up with some Bullshit! NYC is pure insanity for this stuff. I spent a month with my friend NYC Mike... and the stuff I watched guys do... well let's just say they wouldn't even dream of saying or doing that shit in Afghanistan. In my opinion it's the hardest city in the world to be a single woman. You have my full sympathy! I mean that with sincerity.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 12:36 AM
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I've never online dated or used apps and yes, I'm older than a Zoomer. And I was not someone who enjoyed being approached by lots of men, nor were any women I know. Has anyone ever accused you of being an introvert? So, you are within my generation, but probably on the younger end of it. You know we are really like two entirely separate generations smushed together, with 9/11 being a defining point for the older ones and the 08' economic crash defining the younger ones. I think a lot of folks he…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 12:32 AM
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I can totally imagine that you've never been hit on and only been harrassed in your life. It's true for a lot of women. Cold approach almost died , only remains the catcall / harassment. I can only assume she is an Australian NGO worker left behind in Afghanistan or something... thinks all men are Taliban Bros.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 12:12 AM
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Yeah the other cold approach is a cocky guy pulling obvious pua bullshit at me Do you by any chance live in Iran? I think the guy you are describing just sucks. The answer isn't to shut it all down and make everyone miserable. The answer is to teach these guys how to not be assholes... and I think they are being assholes because we shut this stuff down too much and they don't have social skills anymore. OR... maybe you are living in Afghanistan?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 12:11 AM
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Just because it's funny to you, doesn't mean it's funny to other people. You have to prepare people to laugh. You have to put them at ease and let them know a joke is coming... that increases your success rate by wide margins. Watch comedians and find one that fits your sense of humor too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 12:00 AM
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I'm not special. Just be friendly. Eventually you will have one that is interested. This fatalism is just lame.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 11:57 PM
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Cold approach is just having a conversation. That’s literally it. You just talk, flirt and lil, and if she responds well, you keep going. Nailed it! Your goal should be to have a fun conversation. If something come of it... great.. if not... that's fine too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 11:55 PM
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It spans a pretty wide period of my life. I was only dedicating serious time to it while I was learning. Once you get the hang of it... you just do this wherever you go. Airports, bus stops, grocery stores, walking down the street, sporting events... ect. A lot of the time I'm with male friends too, and that can help or hurt depending on the guy. I have a tall fit introverted male model looking friend, and I've accidentally gotten him at least 10 dates over the last 5 years. I really can't count…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 11:54 PM
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Women get the government and society to treat them somewhere between a child and an adult. We coddle them but then also bend to their whims and treat their opinions as very important. Its a very weird and confusing social circumstance but yeah, artificially giving women resources was somewhat noble of a goal but has led to a lot of men’s suffering sadly It's a status game to them. They want the status that men achieve through hard work, but don't want to actually put in the effort themselves. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 11:35 PM
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Western feminism is a niche movement run by a small amount of people while most of the women who claim to be "feminists" don't even care about the movement or pay any attention to it. Additionally, outside of your American bubble, feminism doesn't even mean the same things it does in your culture. I'm only talking about the US. Feminism is not a "conspiratorial movement" of women as it represents a tiny percentage of women and there are bunch of men who are feminists too. There is no gender cons…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 11:30 PM
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I started back in... I did some as early as 2009, but I was absolutely terrible. I focused mostly on bars and nightclubs and just relied 100% on being not ugly, in fantastic shape, and wearing extremely expensive name brand clothes. I would usually talk to between 20 and 30 women in an evening. I had some kind of success every time. Usually telephone numbers. I had just been divorced, I was mid-20s, and my cheating xWife had just driven my self worth 6 feet under the ground and buried it. I wasn…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 11:20 PM
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But cold approaching just realistically won't go well. Women aren't going to put up with the level of constant persistent annoyance that would come with every strange man with a full sack shooting his shot at her, so they're likely to become increasingly verbally and emotionally brutal to would be suitors. They'll also become more avoidant of entering the public sphere simply to avoid this sort of flood of unwelcome dick. Are you old enough to remember what it was like before online dating and a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 06:14 PM
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Bro i just want to be left alone. I already get cold approached and its always awkward and tbh i hate being called ‘cute’, ‘little lady’, or told a stranger saw me and got a boner None of that is cold approach... that's like a step above catcalling... or maybe a step below. You have to be making this up... or live somewhere crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 06:11 PM
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Having done this maybe 1000 times or more... this is completely incorrect. First, as a general rule, if you are polite to women, they will be very polite to you. In this regard they are 1000% better than men. Second, yeah you will get a lot of rejection... especially up front and especially depeding on how you do this. If you just walk up to a woman and say something like "Hey want to fuck?", yeah you are going to get shot down almost all the time, even if you are really handsome, plus some of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 06:07 PM
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Ok, but what's the point in this distinction then?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 05:38 PM
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I hope you are in the US. While many of us want to slow down immigration, very few of us want to stop it. I think there has developed especially among the rural cowboy types a special love for Central and South American immigrants. I think it's almost impossible to have hard working folks who share most of your values, sometimes even attend the same church, even if the language is different, and not come to deeply appreciate them. Anyone who is old enough remembers when all of these towns were d…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 05:37 PM
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It's the men in power who seek these ends, not women. Women for their part couldn't care less. Flooding a nation with foreigners is the hallmark of a tyrannical system of government that was first commented on by Aristotle over 2,000 years ago. Think about this... Aristotle taught perhaps the most effective tyrant in world history. A man who practically burned down the wealthiest and most powerful empire in the world... and did such a fantastic job of propaganda that we call him "The Great", and…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 05:31 PM
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You know they did studies and found that negging works on a percentage of both men and women? But no, I'm not talking about negging specifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 05:02 PM
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You are talking about physicians and nurses. I'm talking about HR directors. I think when you are talking about really talented high performing people, we are talking about 5% of the male population and maybe 1% of the female population. When you look at the best of the best, in my industry it's 50% male and 50% female.... and that's because the 1% of talented women are just absolute ballers. That's just my experience. However, the number of mediocre to shitty people in general at the top is unb…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 04:59 PM
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First class people usually build thier own companies. Second class people claw their way up through static bureacracies. It's should not be a surprise to anyone that people like Vladimir Putin come from highly bureacratic positions and surround themselves with corrupt morons. This is a common issue of most dictatorships... talented, ambitious people are super dangerous if you want to stay on top.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 04:51 PM
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There are good ways and bad ways. I think anytime you do this with negativity... it's highly unnattractive and only works on a small subset. So, you have to approach this with a very positive energy and a lot of playfulness.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 04:47 PM
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And the guys will date her anyway. It was the exact same way when I was in school. Even had the same insult. She didn't change and dated one of the top 10 most popular guys in the school. Boys just have this culture where we give each other shit all the time, and it mentally toughens you over time... as long as you aren't some really fragile person.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 03:22 PM
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Listen, I've spent enough time dealing with C-Suite executives and the people under them to recognize something very interesting about DEI and men at the very top. These guys, and sometimes gals in the C - Suite... they don't want people under them who are competent and who can challenge them. This goes DOUBLE for government bureacracies. So more passive, more incompetent, less ambitious women are getting promoted up fast to all these high positions. The problem is that it literally is killing o…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 03:15 PM
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That's because you don't have basic reading comprehension skills. My point is nothing about averages, it's about the delusional conspiratard mentality that women or men are a collective hivemend intentionally working to a particular goal, or that individual men and women actually care about the "collective benefit" of their gender when they make choices. Look, women DO have this conspiratorial movement that is intesely powerful. It's called Feminism, and it has almost completely remodeled our so…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 02:54 PM
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You have to knock them down a peg first. That's really the key here.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 06:02 AM
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Their collective preferences are fucking everyone over BUT women would prefer sharing an attractive man or being single to being with a man she deems as low I think this is artificial. If the DEI shit went away and suddently women couldn't get mad promotions and extra pay for nothing... and they had to actually work for shit, they would drop careers like crazy. Look at how the flock to bureaucracies and dominate them. That isn't natural. Also, a lot of them are just brainwashed by feminism into …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 06:00 AM
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Why do you think they are all about open borders policies and letting in as many single dudes as possible?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 05:53 AM
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Have you been to one of those niche hobby clubs? The women flee like crazy as men start approaching them, because the guys feel like this is the only space they can do it in. The boys HAVE to start approaching in public spaces again.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 05:52 AM
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You don't seem to understand how averages work. Like men are generally taller than women, but you have some men that are 5'6 and some women that are 5'10". Does that exception mean that the averages are wrong? This whole tirade seems rather silly. This isn't a personal advice subreddit where we talk about how to deal with one man, or one woman in particular. Instead we are talking about how people act and think in bulk, and as a general population does.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 05:48 AM
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A guy who doesn’t exist is a little different than a woman who does. That woman does not exist anymore than Favio. Porn stars look like shit when all the lights, editing, and filters are all gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 05:12 AM
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I don’t give a damn what random men I’m not interested in think of my sexual attractiveness, More men need to think like this too. However we tend to think more about appealing to women in general than just our partners. Of course not all guys... but most of us are conditioned to be this way based on how dating works for us, and it's damn hard to switch. however that doesn’t mean I wanted to be mocked for my appearance either Sometimes you just have to let it roll off you. I've had many times wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 05:09 AM
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Well... unless you have a fantastic mustache, 90% of the worlds men don't care if you wax or not. So... who are you doing this for again?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 05:00 AM
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Luckily, I also grew up in a country that is not puritanical. If I write on the Internet that I hooked up with a 32yo at age 17, I get all sort of weird "age gap" BS - when in reality both me and the older woman benefited from the thing. Oh... that's illegal in the US. I wouldn't call our country puritanical. We used to have pretty strong morals, but the general populace threw those out the window in the 1960s, in favor of a new moral code thats just super wierd. I think it's based on some form …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 04:42 AM
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That description just fills my heart! So happy for you. My grandparents were matched like that. Granma was 31, served in WW2 as an army secretary and had given up on meeting a man. Grandpa was a 28 year old farmer who had left university to take care of his 8 siblings and family farm when his father died. They married and loved one another until passing from this world in their 90s.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 05:05 AM
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That is a serious benefit of older women. We don't say this enough to young boys. Older single women can be a blessing to date as a young man.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 03:19 AM
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My caveat is that I only have experience with Left wing politics, I just assume that it's the same on the other side, but these things are actually determined by voters and party infrastucture. I think whatever party dominates where you live is going to be mostly machine politics... which is where the issues come from. So take what I say with that in mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 04:08 PM
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Awesome! Way to go guy! Seriously, a lot of people don't realize it, but the more experienced and successful guys don't care much about the woman's experience. They learn that young in life and don't change for a long time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 04:00 PM
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Your lifepath instantly and naturally avoids almost all of the dickweeds who only want sex. So, it feels way harder up front, but since you are only dealing with sincere men it gives you a head start. The faith connection is even another step forward. Having walked your path, my only really serious advice is that you make sure it's a guy you actually have attraction for. This might be different if you are asexual. The thing is that it's really easy to wind up having big sexual hangups, but hones…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 03:55 PM
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Let's not pretend this actually happens outside those raised in very closed and/or fundamentalist families. Fundamentalist raised guys are actually a step ahead the boys raised on porn. Most women in my experience really dislike the feeling of having to teach a guy what to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 03:41 PM
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For me personally the answer is never. But I'm also religious and for the devout in my faith virginity is not a shameful thing. What in the world are you doing wasting your time on this sub for? I honestly think your answer is going to be the one that makes most men feel better. When I was in high school, I felt this immense pressure to sleep around and I just had so much bad stuff going on with my family... plus nobody was even remotely interested. However, when I got into college, there was th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 07:36 AM
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I think when she asks him to find her clitorus and he starts looking through her closet... it might make him seem a bit inexperienced.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 07:29 AM
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Thanks for saying I’m a good person. I’d like to think so as well. I just always thought about it as a kid. Ran for student office from 6th grade through high school. My father ran a political action committee for his union. I got into it way back at the age of 12. I did phone banking, door knocking. Eventually some illegal stuff too. The PAC usually had about half a million, more recently its one or two million. Mostly worked for local candidates and on local stuff. In college I got into the ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 06:28 AM
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Guys were doing dumb shit too. Usually hiding money. But I just figured it was good to have a law degree for politics later in life. Don't go into politics. It's terrible and you sound like a good person. If you have any kind of moral system you would be like a hotdog in a shark tank. Only go into politics if you are either a corrupt amoral asshole, or an insane zealot like Pol Pot who thinks murdering a few million is Ok as long as the goal is good.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 04:04 AM
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I don't know enough about buddhism to say. i just mean that my learning/understanding improves. Microdosing is great. it really helps you zoom out so you can see from different/new perspectives. I have only fully tripped a few times, i prefer taking a microdose amount (1/8th of a small dose a couple times a week). I studied Buddhism for a while. I think modern versions of it are very different from it's ancient forms. This is actually true of most religions... the Abrahamic being the most conser…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 01:45 AM
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i definitely think so but this is more informed by me microdosing mushrooms than philosophy books 😂 my sense is that we get to choose to live in this world and are here to experience the spectrum of human life and learn/ascend. Of course this means people choose to live lives full of suffering, so its a problematic/privileged view but I definitely feel like suffering isn't a bug, it's a feature. Which isn't to say I am neutral on allowing others to suffer, there's layers to it and connecting to …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 10:39 PM
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With these women they accuse these men as sexuak predators and thus preserve their social standing among society. But this no pill person takes everything literally so good luck. Idiots are idiots. If you look at this through the lens of Status Theory... I think you are probably highly correct. I don't think it matters if they felt attraction or not. I think the female goal was to increase their own social status and gain empathy from a wide variety of men, by claiming to be hurt by another man.…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 10:07 PM
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Actually... I think he is describing something that is very real here and you shouldn't just dismiss it out of hand. A historical example that we can consider is a white woman in the 1920s south who would accuse an innocent black man of rape, and then get him lynched. Why would a woman do that? What is the underlying motivation?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 04:52 PM
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I practiced pickup for years. I've had women that thought I was ugly as fuck, find me irresistable by the end of the evening. Now, I'm going to say straight up... I'm noticing a difference with Gen Z women. I think they have been conditioned to hate and fear straight white, and straight asian men, so if you fall into this category, they will treat you like shit because they are part of a racist cult. That's the best way to look at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 04:48 PM
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no, anyone who is that obsessed with needing to be perceived as independent is insecure. Nobody is, even career focused men/women need the company to not be doing illegal activities/people to provide their goods and services too I think your point here is actually very insightful. The need for independance comes from 2 main emotional drivers in my experience. The biggest one is status seeking in order to deal with insecurity. The other is an inability to trust men, which is partly ideological ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 04:43 PM
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That's because so many men interpret Stoicism as an attempt to become an unemotional robot. The environment in which stoicism was created, men watched their friends and family bleed to death on a battlefield constantly. Life was much shorter, and death was everywhere and lurked around every corner. Today everyone expects to live to 90 and distance themselves from death as much as possible. What you want to do is show women your postive emotions. When negative emotions come you need to be very ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 04:30 PM
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I’ve dated two men who immediately abandoned all their friends and hobbies and attached themselves to my side like a lantern fish. I cannot be someone’s sole source of entertainment, comfort, activities, affection, confidence, company, and sex. When a guy does this there can be several reasons. A few of them will go away quickly as the relationship progresses. Some like codependency are big problems, unless that's something you like. Many men believe the myth that women hate one another and a lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 04:10 PM
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I completely agree. The truth exists, but our ability to know it does not exist at this time. I would like to say that each passing generation comes closer and closer, but actually I often feel like we move further and further from the truth. Is there something beyond this life we live, or is that just an innate desire because of our mortality?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 11:53 PM
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Incorrect. Men look at this as a cost to sex ratio. Relationship guy puts in insane amounts of effort and work. Sidedude puts in zero effort and gets better sex. Never heard a woman complain her FWB didn't do his share of the laundry. Also once the Relationship phase kicks in... the sex drops off a lot, while the work increases. Marriage is bullshit for men and relationships are only good if you get the correct woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 02:28 PM
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I think she would have to be really stupid to not know even before the first time. It's either there is high sexual attraction or low sexual attraction. It's perfectly reasonable to want the high end of that today. Nothing grants you any kind of protections against low affection in today's marriage contracts. We should just take the average escort price at $300 times 104 per year and then make that a payment requirement post divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 02:21 PM
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If you add extreme pickinesss which is usually a good thing, with millions of perceived options from social media... yes it does. How many women 18-30 have ever dated outside of thier preferred type? I bet it's under 50% right now, while for men it's 90% at the lowest.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 02:08 PM
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But think for a hot minute about how this will affect the overall dating market. Is she going to swipe for the guy that doesn't fit her type when there are 1000s who do?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 01:59 PM
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So... women who don't exist? One of the great things Christians are talking about right now is that being counter cultural means all the people who were going to church just so they can judge others and power trip... they all went Feminist now. If your mom is a Feminist you are almost guaranteed to have very poor mental health as an adult. Virtually all the sexless, jobless, struggling boys came from fucked up Feminist mom's. Polling data on this is solid.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 01:57 PM
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It's not about gender roles. I just proved that. It's about being a narcissistic asshole... which is why the Cat Lady term has bite.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 01:51 PM
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Ok, let's not be ridiculous. Just because a woman might be open to dating men of a different body type than is her preference doesn't take into account what is required to get to that point. She won't go for them on apps for sure. She won't accept them anytime there is a large social group.. like a concert. Won't accept him at first meeting on the street. Won't be interested in him as part of a distant social circle connection. So what's left? That's why there is so much disconnect. Women are de…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 01:49 PM
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For thousands of years if you raped a woman you could expect every man in her family and tribe to come and murder you in your sleep. Read the story of Dinah in the Bible. When women became fair game is when they had no male protection. When a woman lost the men who would fight for her, then she had 2 options... die or accept bottom tier status with a man who could provide protection. A lot of them just died.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 05:21 AM
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Look, women like this have always existed. Most of them had nice status and good lives. A few were horrible people and some burned as witches. What separates them is how they choose to spend thier lives. The nun dedicates herself to God and community spending her life alleviating the suffering of others. The horrible people just focus on themselves care about nobody else and live thier lives as selfish hedonists. The witches... those are the fucking childless cat ladies who dominate our culture.…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 05:06 AM
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Fantasy style romance is only rare because you haven't written your book on Gravemaxxing! They say romance is dead, but once you teach people they can reanimate it by making love on their pretend mothers grave... the world's loneliness problem will be solved. The only issue will be finding gravestones that aren't being used by a couple. Sometimes I miss that crazy guy. Like PPD was so much better with that air of pure insanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 04:38 AM
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I wouldn't call that sexual harassment... which means she isnt' a victim. You can just turn off your headset anytime. My cousin and I play Call of Duty... sometimes... I suck at it and mostly hate the game, but I will play just to be a good sport. Good Lord, the stuff 12 year old boys say is insanely filthy. Like they mock me by referencing fetish porn that I've never even heard of! Seriously, what are you going to to do? Give them new parents?... or maybe A parent? So, I just turn the voice par…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 04:24 AM
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Ah, interesting. I've always thought of Hicks as a philosopher and not much of a theologian. I studied all the major religions at one point or another and although I have some ideas that overlap with Hicks... I do believe truth exists and is knowable.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 09:56 PM
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Well, it's better than your "Professor Umbrage" energy. You cannot control what other people do and say, but you can control yourself and how you react. That's my energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 09:41 PM
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How foolish! First the Harris name is from her white ancestor. Second the marriage was in the 1940s and slavery ended about 100 years before that in Jamaica. Not only that. My family has been in the US for over 200 years and the Virginia branch of our family split in half because there were 4 brothers just before the civil war. 2 of them fell in love with Free Black Women and moved to Jaimaica to get married. One was a doctor the other an architect. The other 2 brothers moved to Kansas. There wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 08:07 PM
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Lol... so they are racist equivalents. I won't argue with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 07:59 PM
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More racist than forcing segregation on your donors? Harris is the descendant of Plantation owners and has retained that mindset with her racial caste system views. She kept innocent black people in prison for political gain as a prosecutor and also refused to release black men from prison for smoking pot because her campaign donors were using them for prison labor. These are all known facts and even BLM wants an open convention. Democrats need a different team. The media cannot run cover for 3 …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 05:47 PM
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Lol... looks like it's posted next to a homeless encampment. But seriously more men should try this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 05:23 PM
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Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 05:20 PM
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Sorry, but when I used to play Halo I got treated worse than that lady and I didn't get all butt hurt about it. Guys talk to each other in these ways, I feel like if you can't handle it then don't enter the voice chat... or play on the Japanese team.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 05:17 PM
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Uh... looks like a 14 year old and with the body of an 8 year old. Any kind of attraction to that should trigger an FBI investigation.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 05:07 PM
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Not happening 2. Has been going on since the beginning of time 3. Also not happening US the stakes are too low for conservatives to fight a left wing takeover at this level point and our immigrants are generally awesome. UK is run by racists who intentionally allow immigrant rape gangs to run around terrorizing poor communities... still these people are considered peasants and have no power so no fighting. 4. The people who talk most about income inequality are also the most responsible for grow…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 02:38 PM
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If you apply woke monoculture thinking to it... yes... and the answer would be state intervention and distribution. Do you understand now why you hear all these boys talk about government forced marriage programs? They are just applying Feminist thought to thier own situation. It highlights what pure foolishness the feminist movement is today.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 02:19 PM
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LOL... in otherwords you are a devotee but not intelligent enough to defend it. That's fine by me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 01:12 PM
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No, hypergamy is about status and status is changing. Wealth and position mean less than before. Looks status and masculinity status are much more rare... so hypergamy is shifting that direction. This is why all the women will not date men that are looksmatch and they call themselves a 10 and try to date male models.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 12:16 PM
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If you can afford a sugar baby then technically it's all you need. But how many have got that much?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 12:12 PM
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Totally incorrect for almost all of history and prehistory. The term slut itself was originally used to describe men who were amoral slobs. We can see that use in the Canterbury Tales. By the late middle ages it's applied to prostitutes. It's essentially a reputation attack. It wasn't used to control sex or sex work, because that was performed by women from the very bottom of society and there was plenty available... often managed by the Church in a lot of places in Europe. Instead this is a rep…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 12:04 PM
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Bro, the whole culture is looking at everything from a NeoMarxist viewpoint. Power = Oppression If women have power over sex, they therefore are sexual oppressors of men. This is why most woke arguments are entirely ridiculous when looked at closely and they drive people to feel situations are unfair that actually are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 11:39 AM
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In TRP terms, “you can’t negotiate attraction,” so why are TRPers here doing this? Because they obviously are not Red Pill. They are black pill. How much clearer can you get?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 11:51 PM
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i mean trump says this is the last time people will have to vote for him, so that sounds like an ideological dictator to me. I hated that guy since the 1990s. churches promote this tho. i literally this weekend read a church's "about me" section and the first belief they list is to assume the best of others. this is cult like and not biblical. jesus wanted people to be discerning and not fall for the pharisees bullshit, not to just believe everything religious leaders tell them. How much do you …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 11:49 PM
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yes. this is one of the main reasons i am against it. the other being that the best information will come from the people actually affected. There is an important human skill we are missing here. Listening to what other people say is just step one. The second step is to really do your best to put yourself in that person's shoes and see the world through their perspective while understanding and removing as much of your own bias as possible. The third step is to then be able to judge that person'…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 11:49 PM
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LOL... it won't let me comment, so I broke it into 2 pieces. Best wishes friend!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 11:48 PM
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Well, back then PUA was very focused on clubs and party girls. I wouldn't disagree with anything you say here.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 08:43 PM
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Men have the habit of working hard to impress women and display competence in the beginning, then drop the act the minute they are married. Any ideas on what makes them feel like they have to do this? I think they drop the act LONG before they get married. Post marriage is where women tend to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 08:19 PM
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Yeah, I don't care too much about that stuff. Everyone knows that there is no rapture coming. Faith of any sorts in something higher is the enemy of the powerful. It keeps them from driving you into your base materialist self. I think you either see through the social programming or your mind is captured by it and you cannot break free. I believe none of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 08:05 PM
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You think that changes in the structure of school and society had no role in it? We can measure all of these trends going all the way back to the mid 1970s.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 07:46 PM
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Mostly correct. I did have it's moment, and it was positive when it had an empasis on self improvement. However, the wave of Black Pill boys from Gen Z and later Millenials just could never have been predicted. The Red Pill had it's origin as you say in club culture of the mid 2000's. Who knew at that point Feminists would do a power grab of the entire public school system and general culture... then use that power to turn every institution into a dystopian hellscape for young men? Who could hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 05:35 PM
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Sometimes I get a chance to help out one of the black pill boys… helo get them moving on the right track again. Why are you concerned?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 04:39 AM
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I didnt preface my statement well, so jt seems confusing. I need to stop trying to do 2 things at once.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 04:34 AM
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Im an Elder Millennial.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 04:31 AM
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Did you read it? If you are talking to a woman and she starts staring at another man, are you going to try harder? If she suddenly gets up while you are in mid sentence to go talk to another man, are you going to follow? I’m more likely to throw my drink in her face, than play her games. I have no problem telling someone when they are rude… and at that point the best she could ever get out of me is being a fuckbuddy. Even friendship is off the table. If I’m buying a round of drinks for everyone……
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 04:28 AM
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Fuck, that’s a solid comeback!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 04:21 AM
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If you desperately want to believe in something. Look at all the communists… But me, I don’t believe anything anyone says ever. I’m Jaded like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 04:18 AM
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Are you kidding? It’s entirely socially acceptable for women to say incredibly terrible things about men in general. It happens all the time in TV, print, real life. It’s such a constant thing that you just tune it out. I remember one of my first trips to Asia… it dawned on me that I hadn’t heard or seen negative male stereotypes in a month while I was there and it really made me feel welcomed, probably for one of the first times I felt like I was in a place that wanted me. And it was all due to…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 04:14 AM
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Why don’t you go take a look at the absolute batshit crazy stuff they post on AksFeminists. It’s so stupid and hateful it should be illegal, but it’s not… actually it’s socially acceptable to rag on all men publicly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 04:11 AM
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The basic idea of the red pill is to show you reality is different from the feminist social programming they beat into you as a boy. The only topic this pertains to is dating and sex. People try to apply it to relationships but it’s never been rigorously tested and most of it doesn’t apply. If you read red pill stuff it should make you feel motivated and excited to try something new and achieve. If you read something and it makes you angry, or depressed, that’s usually black pill content. The go…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 04:08 AM
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When have you known the average woman to recognize reality? That's why when I find a woman who can see the truth for what it is... I keep her in my life even if it's just as a friend. I find it's much more common outiside of the west.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 02:22 AM
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I know this seems silly, but it makes a certain amount of sense to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 01:02 AM
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good. men shouldn't call themselves feminists. no offense intended, i just don't believe in allies (i dont call myself a gay rights ally, for instance, even though this is a deeply personal cause for me, bc i am not gay). that abysmal post from a male feminist yesterday is a great example of why i think this, if you need one. No offense taken. I used to think of myself that way when I was young, but now I just consider myself someone who partially agrees with them. I completely agree with you re…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 12:57 AM
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You sound like you have zero sense of humor. Enjoy your day.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 11:56 PM
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What in the People’s Wife is this shit 😂 By that logic, a man who’s ripped as hell who chooses to be single is “hoarding” resources when he chooses to live alone instead of building houses for people. There is nothing in Marxist or feminist thought to suggest that “hoarding” your own body is a crime against the lower class. Like… there’s no such thing as the pussy bourgeoise It's meant to be ludicrous. I'm mocking the ideas and words themselves. They make no sense in almost any context.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 09:22 PM
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In order to be a public middle school teacher today, a woman must find boys in the 10-14 category at peak attractivness. Sadly, you have disqualified yourself. Don't feel too bad, there are plenty of other great careers out there for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 09:15 PM
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So she is thinking that she wants to test his desire to be in the relationship and this will alleviate her insecurity. Most healthy men will accept her at face value and walk away. There are two primary kinds of men who will push back against this. The first type doesn't care what she wants, and this guy is going to push for the relationship no matter what she does. He will turn to stalking, crying, threats of suicide, guilt trips... whatever kind of emotional manipulation he can to make her sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 08:29 PM
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feminists don't want more hierarchy, feminists want to end hierarchy and live in communities where people care about each other, not where the powerful coerce the rest of us into doing what works for them My mom is a feminist, 2nd wave. I grew up around feminsts and I have this kind of general rule for how I deal with people. I stop listening to what they say, and then I watch what they DO. I see a lot of very intelligent and generally thoughtful feminists and what the DO is put themselves at th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 07:32 PM
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Do you think every man who feels like that expresses it openly?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 04:56 PM
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In that situation they want to orgasm. That just isn’t always the case. I’ve known some women that just don’t want to have to explain how they like it and men who struggle to understand what they mean when they do, so it’s just much easier as you say to do it themselves. But yeah there are also a lot of men who just don’t want to do it… and that’s usually when they feel like they are dating down.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 04:55 PM
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I think that’s a fairly decent picture of how the dynamic of most societies work. But what happens when feminists make a deal with the most abusive and oppressive people at the top to give them power over the men of their social class? I’m sure the goal is utopian, but power does corrupt and there is a sizeable industry built around affirming everything they want is good, no matter how selfish and oppressive it may be.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 04:50 PM
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Two things, they want to feel accepted (good enough), and they want to feel loved. Our culture way over emphasizes romantic love as a vehicle to these things. To redeem these guys the first thing they need is male friendships with more healthy or normal men. Forming anonymous connections with other rejected men online give them this feeling but it’s empty.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 04:46 PM
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Of course, they are just representatives of female teachers. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 03:54 PM
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Do you want me to be more specific? Sleeping with a man quickly doesn’t alter the overall equation too much. However if you aren’t good at making him feel like you are highly attracted to him… he’s going to assume you just do that with everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 02:02 PM
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Unless of course you teach middle school.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 01:58 PM
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lol… well there goes your career as a public school teacher!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 01:57 PM
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Gen Z hasn’t had a defining moment yet. Millennials only had two small ones. So this stuff isn’t set in stone yet. My strong suspicion is that a very large global recession isn’t too far away and the reaction to that is going to set that generations view on things… not that it really matters. I suspect they are tired of this form of government anyway. Yeah you are correct about owing things changing political perspectives somewhat. I think family formation is actually stronger as an indicator, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 01:52 PM
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Nothing. It wouldn’t change anything. Because that’s not what they really want.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 01:21 PM
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It’s one of those words where everyone’s definition is different. So if you want to understand what the other person is saying you have to ask. Also it’s economics not technically politics… although I understand why you describe it as such. You had mentioned that leftist sentiment is trending upwards among young people… but that’s primarily women. For boys and young men this looks like the most conservative generation in over 100 years because everyone starts out left and then drifts right over …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 01:20 PM
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Exactly, do you really want a guy who won’t take No for an answer? It sounds like a dangerous thing to be putting out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 01:05 PM
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Yeah, but my question is why. Why is one personality trait attractive and another not? How much of it is biology and how much learning and environment?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 01:03 PM
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How about you tell me what you think socialism looks like in practice, or communism if that’s your thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 01:01 PM
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Well, the issue in my mind is that she is really trying to push men into not taking No for an answer… which is going to be applied to other parts of the relationship as well. It’s overall an unhealthy idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 12:59 PM
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I wouldn’t take it too seriously, it’s just a thought. Been thinking about the key drivers of attraction and this is all I’ve got at the moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 12:56 PM
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Hmmm… This sounds like you don’t understand how men work concerning dating. There are really 3 different ways a man will decide to deal with you. I know people tend to tell women that it’s all looks and personality doesn’t apply, but it’s not true. Once you catch his interest then your personality really decides both how much effort he will put in and what his goals are with you. The only time a guy is going to care about what you did before is when he decides to emotionally invest, and that’s a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 12:54 PM
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Wealth and power are not the same thing. We live in a place where power is less centralized, but most of those with power have coalesced around a core ideology that greatly serves their purpose. Corporate profits are a sideshow in my opinion. Think, Xi in China lets them make money, but he always gets his cut. That’s socialism in a nutshell. Feminism as a whole is just a way to create useful idiots. A united working class would shut down immigration so fast it’s insane and illegal migrants would…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 06:18 AM
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Hold on while I full body laugh at the ridiculousness! Socialism is just capitalism with more corruption.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 05:05 AM
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Ever stop to think you and all the rest are just serving the goals of the men in charge, and that your real task is to kick lower class men around? Cause that’s all I see any feminist ever do.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 04:59 AM
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She must be screening for nut jobs that don’t take No for an answer. I mean look, you go through some basic conflict resolution and if it doesn’t work… you bounce or kick her out.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 04:55 AM
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You can tell if you date for a while and you know what to look for.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 04:52 AM
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Um statistically in the west like 80% of women try the one night stand thing. So even a lot of low n count women do it. The ones that hold out… look men are rarely going to assume it’s because she just doesn’t like sex. So the guys are going to see this as someone who had high mental fortitude, emotional strength, and honor. Such a woman will accomplish what she sets her mind to.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 04:50 AM
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Do you find yourself attracted to men with no confidence? I feel like that is uncommon. What makes you feel sexual attracted to men that are conventionally ugly? Or maybe you can’t be. I don’t know.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 04:39 AM
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That doesn’t work. Women are attracted to money only as a byproduct of other things. I’ve seen women shoot down rich weirdos all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 03:34 AM
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That totally misses the point. Assholes aren’t insecure and crazy people aren’t secure. This doesn’t even match the topic at hand. Look, part of the burden of being a man is that expressing insecurity is punished harshly particularly by women. A man who is maybe insecure about his partners past is treated like it’s his problem despite all studies and relevant data suggest it’s often a very valid concern. If a woman is insecure about her boyfriend’s past she is generally validated and told that t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 03:32 AM
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Don't think about the personality traits that women like in a man who is attractive. Instead think about the personality traits that MAKE a man attractive. Confidence for example... men who have status and rank are confident, so this turns women on. Kindness, is a trait women want in an attractive man, but an ugly man with no confidence who is very kind... that guy will almost never be sexually attractive. The thing is that status is relational, and each woman has in her own mind the place where…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 01:39 AM
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You know... I've had this feeling for so long that all female sexual attraction comes down to status. Height, Looks, Personality Traits, Charm, Money... all of these things when you really boil them down to what they do... it's that they indicate status in something.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 01:30 AM
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You have to cross the threshold or barrier. This is an ever changing target. In a pool of 10 men it's much lower than in a pool of 100. Today we have a pool of 10,000,000 and growing with social media. The answer is to get her to put her standards aside.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 01:24 AM
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The classical Greek philosophers identified 3 different types of love that men should pursue. Eros, which is the love you get from a sexual partner, typically a woman but to the Greeks also young boys and men could be in this category. This was the lowest and least important type of love. Philial love is the love between brothers and men. This was believed to be the foundation of civilization. The bonding of groups of men coming together to change the world, conquer nature, and topple great powe…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 01:18 AM
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The easier it is for you to get, the less value it has. I think for women the really amazing experiences are so few and so hard to find that it's not worth even talking about. So, you might think it's wonderful, but it's likely due to the lack of it or something you feel that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 01:07 AM
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No I’m saving myself for marriage I did the same thing. Although it didn't work out in the end for me, I believe that this gives you the best opportunity for long term happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 01:02 AM
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No, she's right. Because the post is talking about the hypothetical of it, and although she hasn't actually experienced it, she can still speak about her feelings about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 12:41 AM
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Cool but many of us just can’t enjoy sex in the scenario you mentioned. Yes, but you can turn it into cold hard cash at any point. That is power.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 12:39 AM
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(85% for lesbian women) The frequency of sex and number of couples engaged means that if there were more lesbians and they had sex at the frequency of heterosexual couples... this number would probably closer to 50%. Of course this is complete conjecture.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 12:35 AM
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While men should always be working hard to close that gap, I think we also need to recognize that sometimes sex itself is the goal for some women and not the orgasm itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 12:30 AM
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No, No... you have this wrong. A privilege is a special right, or in this case a special advantage. That's another way of saying you have POWER over something. By typical Marxist/Feminist thought if you have POWER over the distribution of something and you then distribute it unequally then you are Opressing those who are recieving an unequal amount. I think this goes a long way towards showing how terrible this moral framework is and how we should completely abandon it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 12:27 AM
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Do you know what would happen if all of those guys magically got laid?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 12:17 AM
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The very first thing you should work on in your ability to speak to people. It's absolutely fundamental to all relationships and it's a key signifier to a woman that your brain is high quality and functions well. The second thing is learning how to read women's body language. If you want long term relationships the next thing you should be doing is learning how to take care of yourself first... like really put yourself first. Gym time, solid grooming techniques, keep your space neat and organize…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 08:58 PM
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I think that makes perfect sense, but... what happens after that? What I have seen from dating is that people do what they practice doing. So if you practice this constantly ghosting or dumping people. If you practice using them for sex, or evaluating them almost entirely on sexual criteria, it's very hard for people to stop doing this. When the relationship runs into issues this is what they immediately turn to doing, and a couple of 1-2 year relationships after that phase does not change thier…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 08:19 PM
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The posers do today, but they are very low experience men. Shouldn’t you listen to the experiences men who have had crazy success?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 02:35 PM
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That is a very good question. Can you explain what you think is different about these different lifestyles? I personally do not care about body count.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 02:18 PM
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I hear you. And obviously I do not want men to feel sad about this. But being a so called protector isn't as important to women as not being a dangerous person and calling out those who spread hate. It's not a binary where one is either Rambo protection or a predator. Just be decent to others without expecting a reward for it. Years ago this would have hit differently, but look around you. It's getting more dangerous not less. You need more protectors not fewer. Everything is moving towards low …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 02:16 PM
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Bro, most people look like their parents. Because they're related to their parents. I have my father's nose and eyes (and height ;_;), while my sister has his hair and nose. I will wait until your episode of Maury Povich comes out to know for sure. The current rate today is hard to know. BUT if the guy has a suspicion the kid isn't his.... which is very rare... we know it's about 1 in 20 times it actually isn't his. This was likely MUCH higher in the past. I should also note that the way laws ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 01:53 PM
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Women are whining all the time about tons of stuff. By your standards if I very reasonably offer to pick a woman up at her home and drive her to our date, but she feels afraid and insecure about me knowing where she lives and being in a car with me... That she should just fucking get over it. Is that accurate?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 01:47 PM
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Just came from a post where guys were complaining about women dressing provocatively in a relationship ; and through all the explanations and what ifs I couldn’t help but think to myself. ‘Why are you with this person in the first place’ seriously if you don’t want a girl who dresses provocatively do not pay attention to those women do not entertain them. LOL... I feel like you just hit some guy right between the eyes with a giant Logic Hammer. To be fair I see the same with women who knew the g…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 01:44 PM
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Ok, right now 70% of women identify as feminists... so there you go.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 01:38 PM
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LOL.. Church people are normal people. More normal that anyone here. What do you know about couples in public spaces? You see them and you know nothing about them or thier relationship. I'm pretty sure I once saw a happy looking couple in a public space and then the next day the husband was on the news for choking his wife to death... or maybe it was just a guy who looked a lot like him. Either way you get my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 01:36 PM
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Would you also apply that to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 01:33 PM
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I'm around church people all the time... no they divorce when required. The big difference is that they just seem to really like each other. It' probably comes from not seeing your husband as an evil oppressor or something. Who knows?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 01:32 PM
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LOL... the joke with French Canadians is that they have to stay married, because nobody else will ever put up them. But yeah, that's basically what I was saying is that it's all social circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 01:30 PM
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That is still, love as a temporary feeling, which provides the needed excuse for any bad behavior. It's alway comforting to think you can love and hurt and then love again when it's convenient.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 01:27 PM
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If you think love is just a temporary feeling, then I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 12:46 PM
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People here are so quick to go to the negatives and ignore the majority of happy couples You mean church people. Well, if you don't go to church then you won't know many happy couples will you? I lived in LA for a few years and I don't think I met a happy couple even once that was straight while I was there. So, your social circle and where you live play a large role in this.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 12:45 PM
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Think about it. If I lock you into a room with no food or water, you are going to get really thirsty first, but If I also take out all your air... then you will forget about hunger and thirst... and all you will desperately care about is breathing. That's how humans think. Do you understand what I'm saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 12:41 PM
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This is you projecting your own personal sense of entitlement. That isn't really what's happening here and you should be aware of it. Men have been divded into groups, and accepted group and an outcast group. Techincally our job as accepted males should be to protect the group. Some do this strongly, some do it moderately, and some like me feel it's a disgusting system that's just using us. What you have done is forced an ever growing group of men who should be part of the accepted group, and in…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 12:37 PM
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but most women have children with the person they're married to, not the people they had a hook up in college with. Humans have masked fertile periods for a reason, and that's to make paternity uknown. If the woman had to take on a low quality mate for some reason, as many of the children born as she could manager would not be his. If you're married to her and she's having children with you, how are you not The Winner? IF they are yours. How are you going to tell 100 years ago? Sniff test?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 12:29 PM
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So only the ones you approve of? I mean let's just be honest. Insecurity and lack of confidence are two things that will destroy the value of a man in the eyes of everyone around him faster than anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 12:13 PM
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I think they average woman is scared of men because many men seem to hate women. I've never looked at a man I don't know and felt hate but I have felt fear from a stranger if I'm at a disadvantage physically. It's fine tuned in everyone to protect themselves by awareness of safety. If I'm consistently the smallest person bc I'm tiny even for women and men are typically naturally much larger and stronger then until I know I'm with one who is not gonna use that to his own advantage against me I'm …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 12:10 PM
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No, dualistic mating strategy is the correct term. Long term mate for resources, short term mate for better genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 11:35 AM
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You nailed it. This is exactly what is going on. It’s a self preservation instinct. My feeling is that it doesn’t matter unless you are in a situation like a marriage where she can really take assets from you. So just avoid that and enjoy things as they come.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 11:34 AM
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Bro dualistic mating strategy. It’s so hardcore proven at this point even the social scientists believe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 11:28 AM
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Because men aren’t allowed to be insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 11:26 AM
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Bad behavior? Like you think these guys are out robbing convenience stores?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 11:25 AM
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No, money isn’t the answer. Don’t wait
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 11:21 AM
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Ok, so what?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 11:17 AM
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Ok, it IS an insult to call a man insecure, because men aren’t allowed to lack confidence. Also if you don’t have much experience with women then you don’t bloody know what they want from you, so none of the great things about you matter. Do you follow? The last piece of this is regarding how true this statement may be. We live in a place where the average woman hates men. I think if you don’t at least go into a relationship acknowledging this fact and looking for signs that show this is a good …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 11:16 AM
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You can read this in a day, and it will give you some extremly solid techniques for taking the emotion out of high stakes conversations and help you reach a resolution. It's not technically for relationships, but it works very well in my opinion. Take a look and see if you think it's worthwhile. https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/15014.Crucial_Conversations
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 03:50 AM
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I suspect it's actually two pieces. One is dating way out of your league as a woman... you have to do that stuff to keep the man around. The second part is being overly controlling. The guy probably would have done the dishes the next day, but she wants them done now and doesn't want to wait until he has time. It's also a feminist hobbyhorse. Pay attention to how in the GSA survey they removed all mentions of yard work or any kind of handyman activity so they can bias it to look like women do al…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 03:46 AM
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it's pretty weird to enjoy testing out arguments and ideas (I say that as somebody who loves doing it), I think the majority of people like this are either ADHD or autistic I will quickly explain my reasoning here. We live in these media bubbles where only our preconcieved notions and matching experiences get reflected back at us and it detaches everyone from reality. What I'm really doing is testing my reality and attempting to restore sanity. I don't really even believe in justice, although I …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 03:42 AM
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We are UMC. Nobody else has time for this shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 02:14 AM
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It's probably because you have never encountered the real thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 02:13 AM
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Well you're at least right on this. I'd wager almost everybody in the sub is either autistic and/or ADHD and/or very abnormally bad with women and/or obsessed with culture war stuff as an outlet for their frustrations with their own lives. Or they like to test out new arguments and ideas. More than anything this place gets me thinking about other people's perspectives.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 02:12 AM
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High skill vs Lows skill work is the basic answer, because they don't have the same value. But the real issue is why do you need a woman to help take care of your child anyway? I know a couple single dads and the children always resent new women coming in. I know my daughter is going to be the same way. When some strange lady starts taking over all the things kids used to do with their father... everyone gets upset. Also, women wont know how to perform these tasks with the children properly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 01:34 AM
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Why would you let a woman do your laundry? I had a GF mess up a $200 pair of jeans one time. This is NOT why you need a woman. Just divide up chores and make sure she cleans after herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 01:23 AM
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Predictability of opinion is where you just absolutely shine!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 01:04 AM
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Yes, this part is true. But I mean, they also insist that nobody is attracted to or wants to have sex with an older woman when that's not true. There are many men in here saying they find older women very unattractive, but they're called liars! This is not a healthy mindset for women to have. Ok, if there are 10 million men who want to have sex with you, but you don't want to have sex with any of them, not even one.... then your sexual options are zero. Also, just because a man is willing to hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 10:58 PM
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My whole point is that women refusing to believe men can/are interested in older women only perpetuates the idea that a woman's worth, romantically and in general, is tied to her youth and beauty. As women, that's not something we should be doing. Because your value in the eyes of most men IS tied directly into your youth and beauty. So these women are not lying to you. Do you consider yourself pretty?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 10:39 PM
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So you understand. Yeah we SHOULD leave over the resentment. But it’s difficult. I hope in the future if this happens again I have the strength to walk away sooner rather than later. Hope is a dangerous thing! I really wanted it to work out and I think he did too. I just learned in my marriage that the only way to deal with this stuff is to straight up set a mutually agreed upon expectation, and a check in date. For example, I will provide more time together, she will give up her resentment, we …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 10:29 PM
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I'm at the age where some men would say I "hit the wall." I've been with my husband for 12 years. Ok, if you have been together 12 years and have kids together you have something like a 60% chance of being together still at the 30 year mark. Let me tell you a secret. When you are dealing with men, beauty and sexiness are two different things. Your husband is going to see you as beautiful WAY longer than any other guy... like way, way longer. In addition, a large part of his attraction is going t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 10:25 PM
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9 from 18 to 27, and then a few more times off and on over the years. The divorce was nasty, but after that, it’s not hard for me. My social groups are easy to navigate as they are usually built around male friends who just don’t care if I switch partners again. But I see what you are saying, In any relationship more than half of the issues just cannot be resolved, so you have to choose to give up your resentments.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 10:12 PM
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I assume you are young? Nobody is going to assume your marriage will last forever. Maybe it’s advice for the future. Can you describe the situation in detail? Listen female competition is crazy and ruthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 10:03 PM
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I don’t usually mess around with them. I’m considering it for one who wants to learns some things from me, but that all sex stuff and nothing to do with dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 09:59 PM
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Ok, I don’t see how people get resentful IN a relationship. If you have a problem do some conflict resolution. Decide what you can really live with and what you can’t. Usually some kind of compromise can be reached. If not, then you can choose to exit. If you choose to stay I don’t think you have a right to be resentful. But you are right about angry passionate sex and resentment not having the passion component.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 09:58 PM
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I’m… I don’t think this is very well understood by most people. So there is a wall for both men and women, but it’s more significant for women because it generally coincides with their fertility window. So the thing is that as we age our bodies change and our metabolism changes. So men mature slower and have thicker skin, so all things equal they will age slower until mid 50s. However it used to balance out because women use sunscreen and face creams, while men just wreck themselves in the sun. …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 09:46 PM
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His dating cohort? Like OnlyFans THOTs? It would take a total idiot to try and date those women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 09:10 PM
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If a woman wants her man to make more money that her, but expects to pay for everything equally…. I just feel like the number of couples who can pull that off are very small. For example, I’m married to a social worker and she moves into my place… most of her income will be spent covering half the mortgage payment. Also, what if I want to go to Singapore for a month? She can’t cover that AND bills? So do I pay for her or just leave her home? If I pay does that make her a gold digger? I want to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 09:06 PM
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Well, it’s obviously just for the kid! No way can any of that be considered Alimony. That kid needs special gold plated diapers and a personal we nurse.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 08:41 PM
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I think it’s gross, the women are dumb as dirt and he just tries to humiliate them… and that’s why people watch. It’s very low brow. I want to see women’s studies professors defend their bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 08:35 PM
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Can you really just call them gold diggers? I mean something close to 75% of American women expect to date a man that makes more than they do. What percentage of them are gold diggers? And there’s just no way men in Gen Z can achieve those targets, they are way behind the women already. Seems like something is going to have to give.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 08:21 PM
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I’m not an expert, but that was my experience back in 2006. I certainly wasn’t trying to date Irish women at the time because I had my xWife with me at the time. I spend a lot of time in Asia today, and the tourist women do tend to be big. The expat joke is that if you see a big chubby woman with a tall muscular man… they are Australians. Skinny effeminate looking men with skinny effeminate looking women … French. Handsome guys with much less attractive women UK. No stereotypes for Irish that I …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 05:40 PM
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I feel like that’s a strong label. A lot of women don’t want to quit or stop working, sometimes not even kids, they just want a better lifestyle. Which puts you in a completely different category, with maybe 25-30% of the female population.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 05:35 PM
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Just Dublin.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 05:15 PM
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That’s not how or why this phenomenon works
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 04:58 PM
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When I was there and granted I’m just a tourist… I noticed a lot of overweight women and bad attitudes. I just wrote it off to bad luck, but a lot of men say this stuff too. Still, better than Australia.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 04:48 PM
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You started out with Rollo so I already know you have no idea what you are talking about. I bet you tried some grifter method and failed hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 04:42 PM
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Not just Tradcon. There are tons of working women in low pay careers or jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 04:31 PM
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European women married later and had way more say in it than almost any other contemporary culture. Still if you were a woman at that time wealth and status would be your absolute top concerns, with good looks being a close second. Families cared about wealth and status too, but kindness and generosity as also requirements. Families absolutely turned down wealthy suitors who didn’t seem quality… especially in farming communities where it was seen as more advantageous to marry for inheritance of …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 04:22 PM
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Your criticism is just game denialism black pill BS. There is a valid critique to PUA, but this isn’t it. Also, denying the fact that it was life changing for a lot of us, and that we had a very strong community for almost a decade is just ignorant.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 04:09 PM
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Women whose physical standards stay the same between short and long term, are almost always making more than enough money.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 04:06 PM
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Pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 04:02 PM
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I think the best you are going to get is one that smells like a foot. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 03:53 PM
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LOL… all I just read is that you hit your career goals.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 03:34 PM
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Yeah, you weren’t involved. First of all, you needed a sponsor to get in. Then you needed to attend multiple meetups before you were allowed to even speak. Online stuff was only part of the Red Pill back then. We worked together and did all kinds of crazy stuff. You just seem like one of those faded glory frat boys who thought GHB made women like you. I spent enough time in Frat parties to know the type.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 03:31 PM
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Well in the aggregate female and male self interest is usually tempered by reality… through most of history. What’s going on today is a naked attack on reality itself, which is a new thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 03:16 PM
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Sure. I was just curious so I googled it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 03:12 PM
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LOL… you clearly weren’t involved. The Reddit TRP was mostly LARPing from day 1. That’s not where the Red Pill was centered around. I mean you keep bringing in the Manosphere losers and ignoring the PUA guys who were actually driving the bus back then. You were probably part of those fools.. although I don’t recognize Lift and Jerk… did you use another name?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 03:02 PM
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Yeah, that isn’t common. I’ve met a few like that and having abuse in your past makes this much more likely in my experience. Fact is that most men feel loved through sex. So it’s very important. Also you need to recognize most women have different standards for short term partners vs long term partners. Short term partners are chosen much more based on sexual excitement and enjoyment, while long term partners are much more about stability and paying for shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 02:54 PM
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Those were the ones who could take care of them! That’s literally the guy the woman would have chosen for herself more times than not. The difference being families picked less on looks. I mean when we are talking old times… life was really fucking hard and no birth control. If a woman fucked up she was done, game over. Lots of men died in combat so getting the man of your dreams was highly unlikely. It was much more about duty and family.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 02:48 PM
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No, you can always tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 02:44 PM
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It doesn’t have to be a giant conspiracy. You just have millions of women who are easily influenced to attack anything that disagrees with them, and men at the top benefit enormously from keeping other men down. I read another guy on PPD who works in a corporate setting say that CEOs like to hire incompetent women underneath them because then they can’t be challenged or replaced. Also women have a built in natural advantage in bureaucracies, but it’s usually men at the top and the women below do…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 02:43 PM
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Angry sex is a thing. Usually, when this happens the sex is so bad nothing makes it worthwhile. Not saying this was your issue, maybe the guys were just a bit more effeminate or something. I did have one buddy who stopped because his GF was just too loose. Claimed it was like punching smoke… which is an odd analogy. So all things are possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 02:38 PM
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If you are driving a Tesla the crazies are getting triggered by Elon almost daily now.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 02:30 PM
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Pre 1950s, yes they did.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 02:27 PM
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Well, isn’t that the point of feminism? They fuck up, you clean up. I mean I know traditional Muslim culture is hard on people, but families should be involved in vetting potential matches… especially for women because the downsides can be tremendous.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 02:27 PM
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Whatever Pod is just that dipstick yelling and talking over OnlyFans women. It’s useless. The most hardcore intellectual takedown of Feminism I’ve ever seen is from Jordan Peterson. I watched him absolutely bodyslam the made up garbage idea of Patriarchy. Which then they always retreat back to the pointless definition of it, to which he suddenly switches and even blows up that by undercutting the assumption behind it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 02:21 PM
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TRP was PUA based, but from what I can tell #MeToo just wrecked everything in the long run… which I suspect was the goal. Fact is that too many average guys were starting to win and they had to shut that shit down fast. Look, any movement that tries to unite men of different races and ethnicities is a political threat to the feminist agenda. They will come and destroy you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 02:17 PM
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This is a quote from Muslim Africa. Have you ever been to Kenya? Ever seen side chick suburb in Nairobi? Ever talked to women in Mombasa? The mindset is totally different, and they are really struggling with marriage traditions right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 02:02 PM
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You sure you are doing it correctly?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 01:49 PM
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Why? It’s not like they can’t be removed.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 01:45 PM
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That’s WHY he was an addict according to what he said to friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 01:44 PM
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I was there! Not everyone was hitting those kinds of numbers, because a lot of guys either couldn’t or found it unappealing quickly. The migration towards relationships was always high.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 01:43 PM
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What the fuck is this? Rollo is a dipshit and was just a hanger on. He was the most mocked figure among Red Pill/PUA guys for over a decade. Yes we really did have a hey day at one point. Now everyone seems married and the younger guys just want to piss and moan. I mean what were you doing in the early 2010s?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 01:40 PM
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I googled it. The guys name is Nas and he is a musician. The guy pays or paid $51,000 a month.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 01:29 PM
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Question. How do you feel about one and done encounters? What motivated you to engage in them and what kind of men were your type? My suspicion is that you are one of those few high sex drive, high novelty seeking women, and that’s why you can’t understand most guys on this topic. Because if that’s the case then you tend to bring a very similar desire to all encounters and your husband probably feels like Mr Lucky all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 01:25 PM
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Oh, this is a question for me! So having been both types of guy over time… I can explain this easily. The answer is based in how she treats you. If she makes you feel highly attractive, wanted, and like you are the best lover she’s ever had… no man is going to care what her past is like. However, that’s so rare. Usually what happens is that she makes you feel like sex isn’t that important to her once in the relationship , she wants to make you wait for it initially, doesn’t initiate often…. Ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 01:19 PM
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I had a month long power outage in 2007. By the end of the first week I just bought a ticket to Hawaii and spent the rest of the month there. That is what you should do.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 01:06 PM
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Chris Farley was all that plus rich and famous. He really struggled hard with women. I actually don’t know any fat and funny guys who do well. Just tell guys the truth, if you are fat, nothing is going to compensate.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 01:03 PM
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I really struggle with facial moles.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 01:01 PM
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LOL... I looked it up and the owner of TGI Fridays started the place to attract single women so he could get casual sex from them. Nothing says liberation like a good old fashioned hump and dump.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 10:54 PM
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Dude you’re not making the points you think you are. It’s great that you’ve come from such an affluent family, but the majority of people do not share your familial luck. Check your privilege and maybe you’ll understand that social mobility piece you claim to get, but clearly don’t. It really depends on where you are from and what went on in your family. I know my grandparents because they essentially raised me. I don't come from a wealthy background, or at least the family hasnt been wealthy in…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 08:56 PM
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No, a young woman's choice was marriage or abstinence. Prostitutes were typically women who had lost parents and community, or suffered some other kind of misfortune. In fact, through a good chunk of the middle ages the catholic church controlled most of the prostitution, and the great proportion of them were war orphans or debt slaves. Any woman who could convince her family to allow her to remain unmarried could become a nun, or work low prestige jobs as an unattached woman. Most families did …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 05:56 PM
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Do you think it's a desireable role to play today? Same everything still applies except maybe you can delude yourself into thinking people don't look down on you. They didn't have to get married and you don't have to get married. Same thing. Maybe you can have a higher paying job, but you will still be a spinster at the end of the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 05:47 PM
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How hard have you been brainwashed? No, there have ALWAYS been at least 1 in 10 women unmarried in western society... this goes all the way back to the middle ages. The very term Spinster comes from women who chose not to marry in the 1300s. They took on lower status jobs like spinning yarn.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 02:33 PM
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The ancient world had priestess roles, the middle ages had nunneries, there have always been social institutions for women who don't want to get married. Even up to the 1900s it was extremely common for spinsters to hold positions as house housekeepers. Unmarried women have always been part of society. The reason women married was typically if they wanted children and wanted higher social status. Same exact reasons women marry today. No change.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 02:31 PM
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He’s saying that that all women are inherently gold diggers in that they must get something out of the relationship or they won’t engage. I think… that in older contexts protection and status within the group are actually sufficient reasons. Of course today we temporarily outsource those things to the government. I think that’s the main reason we are having problems getting along, is because most women are essentially married to the government, and since they control the government through votin…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 11:48 AM
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Think about it like this… women are obsessed with status, but how can you tell a man has status? Well, if a man acts like he has status then women will react to him like he has status. Alternatively even men who have status but act shy and anxious, women will treat these guys like low status men. This is why musicians, and celebrities are so attractive, they have easily felt status.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 11:39 AM
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Women never had to marry out of necessity. At minimum 10% to 20% through out history did not marry. Hypergamy is primarily a status based drive for mating, and if you look at apes it is a primary driving factor in violence. Large groups of rejected males form up and then roam around looking for opportunities to drive off other males and take their place… this process is inherently violent. So hypergamy could be potentially seen as a positive force for male improvement in say the context of Europ…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 11:32 AM
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Much respect to you bro! What you need to understand is that the Red Pill is at its very core a social darwinist philosophy. Which is why it makes the men who just can't get anything from women go insane. They innately understand what it means.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 04:02 AM
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Ok... so I've kind of had an experience similar to you, but with some things different. For one thing, my parents didnt' give a fuck about what I did or where I went as a kid. Spent most of my non-school time in daycare as a kid. So, kind of the opposite of helicopter parents. When I registered for classes, I often took the wrong ones, wasted a lot of time and money. I never learned to cook anything that wasn't hamburger helper or microwaved. Then I got married at 20 to someone MUCH more mature …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 10:51 PM
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That’s insane! How do you become an adult in that situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 02:34 PM
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The third point is 90% of the issue in the US. The moms here are fucking off their rocker and they also have zero concept of discipline.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 02:33 PM
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Chinese women have practical requirements that are designed for family survival. Western women want disposable income so they can blow it on themselves. Do you see the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 05:39 AM
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And the idea that I could be at such a high rank simply from being quite pretty, slender, funny, sweet, and clever baffled and enraged them because it suggested both the unfairness (me being born better looking) and the areas of their own flaws (not as sweet, funny, and clever). Thanks for posting your thoughts on this. I feel like it really helps me put my thoughts into perspective. I'm a very successful person and one of the things that I feel like really helped me get to that point were the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 05:42 PM
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This is very simple answer. Our culture is basically runnign a status game based on how oppressed you are by other poeple. By acknowleging that women as a whole are opressing this group of men, it raises their status in society. If they have higher status they are much more likley to not feel shamed and to begin doing things that improve themselves... maybe even sex becomes less of an important thing for them. I think a lot of you ladies are way too focused on the actualy physical aspects of thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 05:25 PM
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no one has died directly from lack of sex. With all due respect, that is very incorrect. Suicide is extremely high for men who face this kind of deep rejection. It's also deeply psychologically destructive and even healing from it takes years or decades. As someone who doesn't have to every face this, I don't think you are qualified to talk about it. You simply don't understand and are perhaps incapbable of empathy on the topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 05:17 PM
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I had this period of my life when I worked international sales and I would go stay in a country for 1-3 months to build up and train a sales team. While I was there I would go on dates and meet people, build friend networks stuff like that. When I was dating one of the things that hit me in a profound way was that the things I did that worked very well at attracting American women, absolutely repulsed women from non-english speaking countries. The exception was scandanavian women... those ladies…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 05:06 PM
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Oh yeah... it's all the fault of traditional gender roles.... can't possibly be female ego's involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 03:21 PM
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Those are considered to be the same thing today... no difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 03:19 PM
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Shockingly 7.81% of the millenial female participants in the study were Middle School Teachers. I've just gotten to the point where if I meet a woman who is a public school teacher, you just know she is a child molesting freak. It's just a really safe assumption to make at this point. Actually there is some data to suggest that the state of California has so many teachers that are sex predators with multiple victims, they the single state has created more victims in a generation than the Catholi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 03:18 PM
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Think about it again for a moment. Women are actively selecting FOR the men with money, and selecting AGAINST the men without. Therefore marriages are typically going to contain on average men who make signifigantly more than men who don't get married ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 03:08 PM
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This is incorrect framing. Traits are divided into Alpha and Beta traits. We all contain a mixture of these. Red Pill/PUA will often talk about killing off their inner Beta. This means pushing down your instincts to do things like people please, be a doormat, give in to social anxiety, lack of confidence... this stuff. Nobody is full Alpha or full Beta, we are all a mix of both. Also... Chad was a term used to describe high school athlete type guys. The jock assholes that most of us despised in …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 03:05 PM
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It's because women chase the guys that make money... and eventually catch them. The men that don't make money women don't bother with. It's not that married men are destined to make more money.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 02:48 PM
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In the history of the world this is an entirely new thing. Men are supposed to form bands of brothers and go forth and make the world bend to their wills. The fact is that because wherever men congregate eventually become centers of innovation and power... women stomp their feet and push their way in. We have no space to bond and attack problems together without women coming in and destroying the dynamic. Have you ever wondered why all of the old cultures and systems had lots of men only spaces?…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 02:47 PM
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Yeah, I'm sorry you had to experience that. I hope it made you stronger rather than just being something you had to heal from. Honestly, as a boy experiencing bullying is caused primarily by your weakness or by being an outsider. I don't really understand how girls think sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 02:36 PM
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Seriously YES. You can add shitty tattoos to that list. Nothing sexier than looking like the stall door of a truck stop shitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 02:34 PM
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Bro, they can't tell. They really can't tell what we like and what we don't like. They honestly think that masculine looking women are hot. They literally think bitches, so skinny they are on the verge of death are the hottest thing ever, while we think damn that girl needs to eat a burger. Men's preference for thinness is in a range between 15% and 25% bodyfat, women literally will say 5% bodyfat is hotter than 12%... which is insanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 08:11 PM
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I totally understand. I kind of didn't until my daughter turned 6 and the girls around her started chasing boys... but now it just is impossible to not see. My daughter is very good looking. As a baby she did a few months of baby modeling before her mom found it kind of exploitative and pulled it. I always expected her to grow out of looking good, but it hasn't happened yet... maybe puberty. She is a highly ranked figure skater for her age and has this personality that is so outgoing and friendl…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 08:07 PM
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Eulen!!! I think the study you are looking for is the one that created the terms Girl Pretty and Boy Pretty... as in the men and women didn't agree on which female faces were the most attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 07:22 PM
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There is a remarkable amount of overlap on some things, but you are right that they tend to be more towards personality traits than looks. I also think that the wide variety of things men are attracted to tends to hide some big surprises. Like, they guys who seem to really want conventionally attractive women, if you listen to them talk they really seem motivated by other men approving of their mate selection. I dont' really understand that, but there is something behind that which could be a wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 07:17 PM
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No, what he is describing is a very real thing. Women tend to intenesly overrate one another. Part of it is also the fact that women use so many filters and photoshop, makeup and surgery, hair extensions, hair dye, fake lashes, fake tits, botox... now even fake asses which are gross as hell to me... I mean just so much stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 07:12 PM
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To be fair most people pair up fairly close to their own attractiveness level. If your GF's are matching up with guys you don't think are much to look at... then your GF's probably aren't that hot either, which is totally cool. You are probably just going to have to adjust to being the hottest woman in the group. Once you realize that, maybe lots of social interactions that didn't make sense will click into place? But the thing is that in my experience here... the only real standard that women h…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 07:04 PM
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I've got a daughter and I'm not going to send her off to play alone at some guys house, BUT I will take some time out in the evening and escort her over to play with another little girl. I'm not going to lie though... I do not trust lesbians around my kid under any circumstances. I have a zero tolerance policy on that. But look, if moms don't trust me up front... I understand that. It's OK. I don't mind taking background checks and stuff. Although I'm not going to hand out personal information t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 06:50 PM
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Some do, most don’t. You don’t find many that understand themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 01:30 AM
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Honestly you would have to post a picture. Truth is that it’s much more likely to be a soy boy demeanor that is making them not want to be near you. I had soft parents, but my grandparents were hard as hell people. For those of you going on two or three generations of soft… I think it might be impossible to know what masculinity looks like. That seems to be the biggest issue with Gen Z. Worst part is that the girls don’t realize why all the weak ass clowns around them make them feel unattracted.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 12:53 AM
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Do you know how addictive it is to step out of a culture that hates men in general and is racist as fuck against you and then go to a place where the racism is low key and people treat men well? I always just enjoyed getting away from the toxicity if LA culture, but I was just traveling for work, not dating. They call them social skills for a reason, they are skills that can be improved.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 09:58 PM
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It’s polling data, not based on diagnosis. I know a lot of kids with liberal parents and they seem pretty fucked up to me. As for liberal moms hating their sons… of course they don’t think of it that way. However, just look at the outcomes!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 09:45 PM
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It’a complicated. But I can say from experience that the women who date foreigners have very deep and abiding reasons. Most of the time, the really hot local guys don’t like how these women look. So they are the fat ugly white girls of their culture. Second, some of these places it’s damn hard to be a woman… and they don’t want to be a slave to some crazy mother in law. The money… a working class guy is really what they want. However the Thai in particular are two faced as hell… and most passpor…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 09:40 PM
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It’s one of the most expensive places in the world
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 09:27 PM
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LOL… the level of delusion is crazy. These are same women flying to Jamaica to rent a dred for a week or two. Everyone sees through your bullshit. It’s very simple. Women from other countries are taking your betas away. No more bailouts at age 38. My suggestion is learn how to go down on another woman, and when she slaps you around learn to like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 09:27 PM
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OP is in Canada. He isn’t traveling. Passport bros got money, for the most part. Red Pill started this years ago and we used to party overseas in groups. Columbia was always the top spot. But if you listen to men who date international, Chilean women do not rank high. They tend to be the worst of both. This guy has to be kind of ignorant to think all foreign women are the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 08:12 PM
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You can’t. It’s Feminist beta male shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 08:07 PM
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I think a lot of these guys don’t realize the number of red pill men who are wealthy now. These broke losers don’t want a wife, they want a bailout.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 08:06 PM
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Then why did she bother to type a response?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 03:38 PM
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I think she is more relaying relationship expectations that he needs to not only initiate more, but also make the decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 03:36 PM
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This kind of goes to one of my biggest relationship issues with American women. They keep demanding equal relationships with me, but then expect me to lead. Now, that's fine but I'm not going be a leader of anyone unless they actually give me the authority to lead them. It's impossible to dance with someone who both demands that you lead, and also refuses to follow. Believing this type of a relationship can work creates the dumbest expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 03:34 PM
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I know that used to be correct, but this is a new generation of parents and I just don't think that is true anymore. I wouldn't call the data conclusive, but I'm seeing some indicators in other areas as well. They did some large studies on men who identify as black pill, who have failed at careers and can't get relationships. Every time they look at this population of desperate failures 65-75% of these boys report coming from very left wing homes. I can look at my own peers and this fits. It see…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 03:09 PM
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Lol the amount of hamster happening right there.Like it or not it's the same. It's about people unable to determine their smv leading them to repeated failures being outcompeted. Most men and women adapt and some are unable to do so and often prefer to victimise themselves instead RIght now almost 1 in 3 women are not able to adapt. That number isn't likely to go down much in the next 10 years. Lots of childless women who couldn't have a family because men under some specified height aren't good…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 10:06 AM
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Do you know how respect must be given before being recieved? Human decency is the same way. I got really tired of giving and not recieving it, so I'm done.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 10:00 AM
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Red Pill is pickup. Everything Red Pill is straight up designed to teach you how to get women interested in you. They even did research on our techniques and figured out how they work and why. Like Negging for example... I can use this because it isn't used in this form anymore. We found that time and time again, if you mixed some insults into your compliments that women would be much more likely say Yes, when you ask them on a date. It's insane how well this works. Turns out that the small self…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 09:54 AM
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If you could turn female attraction into a basic math equation, then this forum would be abandoned overnight. The fact is that it took most Red Pill guys 4 or 5 years of serious trial and error to figure out how it works. The dismay you see from the black pillers is simply them realizing that women are just as concerned about looks as they are but WAY WAY pickier. Like put them in a room with 100 men and they basically all choose the same guys picky. But just like you said... that isn't actually…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 09:47 AM
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Male attraction often lacks a mechanism to regulate for thier own looks. Which is delusional, but not a huge problem because most will eventually figure out where they land and seek similar mates. Women on the other hand, their attraction scales. If you have 10 men in the room the bar will be lower than if there are 100 men. That's a big problem in the age of social media. Additionally they are regulated by self esteem unlike boys who when it's low simply don't try. So the higher her self esteem…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 09:40 AM
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Thank you for letting me know!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 09:33 AM
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Wow did you pick the wrong example. Women in Tokyo dress like sexy infants, including ruffled undergarments and sucking on pacifiers and bottles. Same infantile clothing in black leather with fishnets and minuscule skirts. Thigh high boots and micro shorts. Not sure how you visited Tokyo and never saw street fashion… it’s famous worldwide. What? No, this must be a more recent thing, because I didn't run into any women with baby bottles or pacifiers. Still... none of that sounds sexy. I think I w…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 09:32 AM
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Which could result in a fight. You see women attacked on the subway now and everyone just looks away. I've never had a woman speak up for me in a similar situation, because they know the inherent risks.... and I used to fight a lot in my youth. Truth is that it's in my nature to protect, but the good news for me is that I get to draw that circle as close to me as I want. Besides it's obscene to join a movement that openly hates men, that tries to harm them... and then turn around and ask them fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 09:02 AM
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The vast majority of men like average looking women. Regarding the age issue it's more difficult. If a guy wants children younger women will always be more attractive. It's just a fertility thing. You shouldn't worry about being average, it's actually a great blessing for most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 08:37 AM
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What about the women? Are they allowed to make decisions about their own lives, their own destinies? Are women allowed to do as they please and seek their own happiness? We are talking about showing your tits in public and stuff like that. Nobody here thinks they should dress in Muslim garb and walk around covered in bed sheets. I get that all the young girls are compelled to show off their bodies to get attention. It's what tells them their status, and whether they developed correctly. This ser…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 05:32 AM
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I just want to see women take on the negative part of men's gender role. If you can't ask a man on a date, then you should't be working anywhere, ever. Stop obsessing over CEO positions, I want to see them do the dirty hard jobs. Go catch crabs in the Bering strait, be garbage collector, or a bricklayer. Take job in pest control, and get the hell out of social work/education. There are just so many things like this. Lots of women want to do what men did in the past, but they walk away when it's …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 05:21 AM
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That is a good point, but isn't it all intersectional stuff today?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 01:54 AM
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You can't go back to the past. It's a dumb to even try, thier situation was radically different. However, how can we profess to want equality and then act unequally. I don't think the traditionalists really want tradition. They just go back to the first time period that they percieve as not all fucked up... and it's mostly because they don't know anyone who lived through it. They just want gender roles that work. They don't want to have to get into a relationship and then have to battle this cra…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 01:46 AM
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It affects the married men a lot less... unless their marriage lacks affection. When it's good a guy doesn't care what other women do. What your little fake scenario misses, is that it hits the single guys, the younger guys twice as hard. They see someone like that and they think they can date someone like that, and they won't settle. Now, they will date whoever they can, but they won't commit, because in the back of thier minds maybe they can do better. Of course if they walk down the aisle wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 12:56 AM
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You are correct of course. We talked about this a lot back in the day. There is essentially a social contract where we need to be willing to fight and die if needed to protect, but in return there has to be something, maybe status, maybe power, behavior requirements…. I don’t know but it has to be something. Today it’s nothing, and that just isn’t going to work for anyone… nobody is going to take that deal. So go buy a gun or something and deal with the creeps yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 10:31 PM
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??? Therapy isn't that great for kids. Making them constantly dwell on their problems actually makes them more anxious. My cousin lived through it and he explained it to me. The other form of help is anti-depressants which can mess you up too. I don't think you can just waive that away. The polling matches too well with economic and life outcomes. Feminist moms raise loser boys at an incredible rate. Look, what little boy is going to get over their mom hating them??
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 09:49 PM
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I'm curious, what kind of standards you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 09:08 PM
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Check out the incel stats some day. The number one predictor of being an incel is having a mom that's a feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 08:45 PM
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Did you see the debate? Everything around us is a shitshow! Dating and relationships are just another example of how abandoning norms and traditions at the exact same time as insane technological change occurs is just batshit. The big difference here is that the women on the sub have recieved every bit of social support and encouragement that society can possibly offer, while the men have grown up attacked, demonized, and oppressed. So, when these kids fail and react with anger, I don't feel you…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 08:35 PM
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I will say this. When you get laid at home, you don’t even care to look and even when you do it’s more like just how laughable this juvenile bid for attention is. That said… most guys aren’t getting much… especially the poor married guys. So yeah it drives up expectations on the woman you are with and drives down satisfaction. That’s a plain fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 08:04 PM
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I’ve seen about 3 or 4 studies, in particular the speed dating one, that show women raise their attraction standards to what they perceive as the available mate pool. Those are raw sexual standards. Men do not do that. So all this complaining about delusional women… it’s highly possible that’s a real thing. I’ve certainly noticed anecdotally young women being totally insane on sexual attraction. But, I think that’s a side issue. What is really telling is the polling data that shows boys with ext…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 07:59 PM
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Look, I really don’t care what thirsty men do. If they harass a woman I love they are gonna get waffle stomped. The rest should shut up and just take care of themselves. Stop bitching to men who don’t do this, and I promise the men who do, don’t give a crap about your indignation. But thirst isn’t just about harassment. These ladies project sexual availability and promiscuity. The guys go home and look at what they are partnered with and go “where is that sexiness here?”
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 07:48 PM
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What is wrong with you? Either no man is bad or all are bad? It’s not a binary choice. There are small numbers of bad men, and you can either choose to openly attract them or not. Either way they aren’t going away. So, do what you want, just don’t drag me into it. I will risk my life for the women in my life that I love. The rest of you… I’m just going to walk right past… save yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 07:42 PM
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What the fuck does that even mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 07:29 PM
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If the guy is claiming it created an irresistible urge to do something improper… I mean sure. But overly sexualized clothes definitely has a negative impact on men. I suppose if you bought some $20,000 nasty butt implants and want to show them off… whatever, but this sad bid for attention ultimately hurts other women… and drives male thirst through the roof.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 07:28 PM
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Just throw it into any AI based search. It will bring up the stats. 67% of marriages end in divorce within 40 years. The stat analysis is cited in there.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 04:46 PM
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In your opinion, why were they virgins?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 04:41 PM
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If you look longitudinally, your probability of remaining married in the US starts pretty low, and continues to drop rapidly until after the 8 year mark and then slowly steadies out, then spikes again. Basically right now your chances of going 40 years is 33% and actually slightly decreasing year over year. However, it's WAY worse than that if you take the highly religious couples and factor them out. For a couples that do not attend a church service at lease monthly, your chances of going 40 ye…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 04:30 PM
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It makes men dominant not dirty. Why don't you know this? Who wants a woman that gives her body in submission to everyone else? You are probably some OCD Howard Hughes style germophobe, which is why you can't get off this stupid non functional analogy. When a guy uses language of disgust... it's not because the woman is dirty, most of them will still sleep with her. It's the above piece you seem to miss. This is about competition between men as much as it's about how she throws her ass around,.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 05:38 AM
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THIS is it!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 05:28 AM
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No, have you ever met one of these incel guys. I went to school with a few. I knew them pretty well back then.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 05:26 AM
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Oh, DM him for his number! Otherwise he's going to wind up chasing the same 200 or so semi-pro Filipinas all the other sex tourists chase. I'm sure you could change his naughty ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 05:21 AM
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Haha... clearly he wasn't having issues finding interested women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 05:15 AM
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For what an average 4 years at a time? Let's get real.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 05:10 AM
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No, my aunts went crazy because my grandfather made the mistake of pulling back as they got older. It was most pronounced for them at puberty. They didn’t understand and felt he didn’t love them as much anymore. So keep up the physical contact, hugs and other kinds of touch. To keep them from being spoiled…. Tell them No and make sure they know what behavior is inappropriate.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 03:10 AM
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She actually has very good features. 6 or 7 months of Ozempic and she would have a lot going on. But my buddy Jumbo would swoop her as is! He’s 6’4” and really handsome. Bit of a party boy but he’s been tamed before.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 03:05 AM
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You understand men as much as incels understand women. This isn’t something that has an analogy, it just IS and you should accept it, in the same way men have to just accept ridiculous standards like height or hand size, or whatever it is that floats women’s boats. Frankly the sheer hypocrisy of holding men accountable for things they can’t change at all, while constantly bitching and complaining that men hold women accountable for their actions is just… It’s just gross. Like vomit inducing gros…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 03:00 AM
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Wait. How do you think all these guys wind up alone? Have you ever met one or known a guy like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:44 AM
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Yeah a handful. Now let’s all chant USA, USA, USA.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 11:49 PM
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Actually… that was most likely all in the plan. This guy has irresistible bad boy written all over his story.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 11:46 PM
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I’m probably not going to partner up like this, but if I did the answer is a hard NO. When a man marries a woman, what he wants is to be loved and accepted. A hall pass isn’t going to change that… even it’s with some celebrity. It’s not about validation or ego, so those things can’t fix or change it. You already have a woman that you love and want to commit to… but she doesn’t really love you the same way. She likes your safety and comfort… maybe even that you are presentable to her family and s…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 11:35 PM
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I’m not sure what the disconnect is… these guys are actually asking women to stop selecting men based on self defeating criteria. Which in my opinion is like asking a dog to learn to read. A lot of guys are just tired of having to pretend to be assholes in order to get a girlfriend. Either you can’t sustain it and the relationship fails, or it actually becomes part of you and then you can’t stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 02:40 PM
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It’s not just in the bedroom, older women can teach relationship skills as well. The drawback is that so many are just bonkers. So, I think the ideal age for a guy to do this is maybe 21, because not as many have the mental resilience as teens. When a lot of us Red Pill guys got to a point where we did well or Ok here in the English speaking world we started going international. At that point we just started to notice this enormous difference. Women from English speaking countries almost never t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 01:35 PM
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