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That's definitely also an important part of it.
/r/TheRedPill21/06/18 05:04 AM
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This is so true. As Rollo said: 'there are good ones and there are bad ones, there is no the one'. It's not a big deal. We can survive perfectly if we just work on our own happiness and make the most out of the people around us. No one is irreplaceable. The second last paragraph is especially true. Those who love you will find a way to love no matter what. Those who don't will not do so just because you spend more time with them. If I can upvote you 500 times I would.
/r/TheRedPill05/12/16 11:38 PM
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This book is one of the most enlightening books I have read in my life. It was so good that after listening to it as an audiobook, I bought a hard copy and made sure that it stays on my bookshelf. I still take it out every now and then and read a section of it. It connects all the dots you see in real life about how women behave. When you see the full picture, your mind is instantly blown.
/r/TheRedPill05/12/16 10:07 PM
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For anyone in their early 20s (in my late 20s now), I can verify that this is definitely true. Don't do something (party, go out of your way to date girls) for the sake of it because it is supposed to be part of the "college experience". If your family is not super rich the most important thing to do in college is to get your grades up, do internships, make friends, and plan out your career. Trust me, the real game starts when you settle in a good career and you just keep improving yourself. Nob…
/r/TheRedPill28/09/16 01:48 PM
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Yeah every woman who got brainwashed sits here and thinks we can just defy our biological instinct programmed in us since our existence, without paying a price. Sure, you can walk all over a man, but get ready to fight that hypergamy voice in your head all the time and control your inner insecurities. Otherwise you are ruining things for everyone. It's like reading the part of the book about getting rich, but not the part that says how hard you have to work. Want to be like a man? Act like a man…
/r/TheRedPill03/09/16 07:46 AM
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Yes. That's the best thing to do. Don't expect them to change (we very often overestimate their abilities to change), don't forgive, keep them in line, and live your life your way, unaffected by them. Actually it is not until that I posted something like this at different places that I realized how common it is for people to have the same messed up issues with parents. Rarely do I see people really appreciate how understanding their parents are and how they supported them in doing what they want…
/r/TheRedPill01/09/16 11:12 AM
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Fuck yeah I feel that. I dated a girl who was really nice to me for a while, and I felt genuinely surprised she was very obedient to me and just went with whatever suggestions I gave without objection. If I told her to wait for me she would wait for a long time and just mind her own business. Damn I really miss her now.
/r/TheRedPill01/09/16 05:22 AM
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I really wish we could have known this sort of things earlier, when you can make bigger changes in your life and take more risk. Unfortunate very often you don't really realise how badly you are programmed until you have started working for a bit, earning your place in the world, and dated a few people.
/r/TheRedPill01/09/16 02:38 AM
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I am wondering at what age did you notice this? I really wish I had noticed this when I was younger (in college).
/r/TheRedPill31/08/16 11:12 PM
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So... you are seriously considering changing your career to get women who may or may not be interested in you at all? You don't see anything wrong with that? You do realize whoever has more power and more frame is the more powerful one right? I am almost amused at a life decision being made in such a way.
/r/TheRedPill31/08/16 12:31 PM
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No more validation from her needed.
/r/TheRedPill31/08/16 12:38 AM
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Really not worth arguing on this. If you are an adult agreeing with your parent's view on life, there are two cases: 1) Your parents are the perfect parents, and there is literally nothing you can improve about them; 2) You have not seen the limitation of your parents yet, which means you views have not improved from their generation. Guess which one is more likely?
/r/TheRedPill31/08/16 12:37 AM
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Never had to use actions. My parents are usually good at keep it just to words. But I just know you have to do what you do, despite what they tell you.
/r/TheRedPill31/08/16 12:33 AM
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I hope I can spot one of these well adjusted women to date so I can really feel what one should be like.
/r/TheRedPill31/08/16 12:31 AM
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Just the absence of father is enough?
/r/TheRedPill31/08/16 12:28 AM
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Yeah I am not saying she has not done a lot, simply that it could be better. If we had the same income level, and our family composition was a alpha male/beta female combo I can assure you that I would have made a lot of life choices better.
/r/TheRedPill31/08/16 12:27 AM
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I mean deprogram. Getting rid of all the subconscious thoughts that are buried in my mind due to the way I was raised.
/r/TheRedPill31/08/16 12:25 AM
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It exists, and I have seen better ones. I have seen this alpha male in my life, and he bullied me to some extent. But I kinda liked him even though he was being a bit of a bully. Because secretly I want to be like him. The way he talked to his mother made my jaws drop at the time (I thought he was not being very respectful). But he has always been the centre of attention with his personality, and he does well in life. He is now also successful in work. That kind of personality is rare, but exist…
/r/TheRedPill31/08/16 12:22 AM
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At some point you realise how much you are like your parents, even though you hated their behaviour all these years. It's a tough pill to swallow. That tells you though - if you don't fix up your issues, your children do not grow up magically without these issues. They grow up just like you, and there is nothing magical about being a parent (it's in everyone's nature). So my attitude is, fix myself up before I decide to bring a lovely new life to this world.
/r/TheRedPill31/08/16 12:14 AM
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Yeah. I am a really caring person, and that's how she got me. If I was a callous fucker with no remorse I would not be here complaining, and my life would turn out in a better way.
/r/TheRedPill31/08/16 12:10 AM
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It helps a great deal mate. I am very surprised to see so many people resonated with this and replied. I thought this post was gonna get 5 comments. I am very similar. My 16 - 27 (now) life was spent making lots of mistakes because I constantly seek validations from other about what I do, and finally I am realising this.
/r/TheRedPill31/08/16 12:02 AM
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Yeah had the same feeling. Had to make everyone happy, and was really afraid of being alone. Now I am alone most of the time and don't even need other people. Focusing on my work and less on meaningless social jerk-offs in which everybody compares how well everybody else is doing.
/r/TheRedPill31/08/16 12:00 AM
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I am not forgiving her, for life. I will have to move on though.
/r/TheRedPill30/08/16 11:56 PM
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Yeah well you can see the things she did were not so bad, and people may even laugh at this and say "you call this fucked up? I have been through way tougher shit!". But it is still wrong nonetheless. A smaller wrong does not mean it is not going to affect anything. But rest assured she is a sweetheart full of love, just more for herself than for me (which is to be expected). The fucked up thing is she makes it sound like she loves me more than she loves herself.
/r/TheRedPill30/08/16 11:55 PM
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There is nothing to fear. Just realise that this mindset is completely independent of your job, salary, houses owned, marriage status, number of children. The only thing you need to change is you.
/r/TheRedPill30/08/16 11:51 PM
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That's is tough for her. But I will have to agree with GreatWhiteCuck and say that she had a choice. Despite whatever fucking excuses people tell you, everyone always has a choice. I thought I was going to be beta all my life, now I am choosing not to be. You always, always, always have a choice. You can make that choice yourself.
/r/TheRedPill30/08/16 11:50 PM
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Subconscious programming has enormous effects. Even though other people will tell you "oh it's just small things", "oh it's just your mother", it's not true. Small things like this will fuck you up big time if you leave it in your mind.
/r/TheRedPill30/08/16 11:44 PM
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Yep. I am going to tell my children, go venture out there and create your world, and if all goes to shit I will be here and be your shield.
/r/TheRedPill30/08/16 11:40 PM
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I am not going into a marriage without a prenup, that is if I ever get married.
/r/TheRedPill30/08/16 11:39 PM
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Yeah, going to college and learning about math, science and engineering really helped. The cliches about education are true. When you have really understood things from a systematic point of view (calculate probabilities, upper bound and lower bound of events, risk analysis) you start to see how stupid women are. Ever wonder why math, science and engineering classes are more than 80% men?
/r/TheRedPill30/08/16 11:37 PM
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Man, hope all goes well with you. Know that you have a choice to be your own boss, it's all in your mind. You have nothing to fear but yourself.
/r/TheRedPill30/08/16 11:33 PM
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My mum chose this beta male, and yet complains that he is a beta male. You are right, it's literally lose-lose. Domineering women are destructive to families.
/r/TheRedPill30/08/16 11:30 PM
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Wow that's kid about to be bullied hard in high school.
/r/TheRedPill30/08/16 11:28 PM
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Yeah, over the years I have seen many cases where my beta dad praised her, and did the work at getting to me. What's good is that I am very much in control now. I have established myself and now have the power. She has to ask for my attention now, and whether to give it is at my discretion.
/r/TheRedPill30/08/16 11:27 PM
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Good for you to find a male mentor. Actually you may not even need that. If you set your own goal and work your ass off to achieve whatever you want, men will appreciate it. Women, on the other hand...
/r/TheRedPill30/08/16 11:22 PM
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Feeling much more happy and relieved about my life. Working hard and being a boss in my job too.
/r/TheRedPill30/08/16 11:21 PM
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Yep, they want a lion to be their mate but they want to tame it once it becomes theirs. They project all their fears onto you because they are so afraid of everything.
/r/TheRedPill30/08/16 11:19 PM
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Yep. Just another woman in my life, and viewing from this point of view, I would not date someone like this if she is the last one on earth.
/r/TheRedPill30/08/16 11:17 PM
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Absolutely. You need woman to raise children, but without man they are dysfunctional.
/r/TheRedPill30/08/16 11:16 PM
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TRP was my start. "The Rational Male" helped a lot. Observe how other people behave and date. I talked to some close friends and asked about how they were brought up. Man you see the huge differences that a family environment can make. I looked back at my life choices and realised so many opportunities missed because of my personality. Also, learn statistics. The single more useful math area you can learn. Just get the concepts, like Bayesian Inference, which basically means whatever has happene…
/r/TheRedPill30/08/16 11:09 PM
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Yep. It has also taken me 10 years to figure out woman since leaving home. Geez that's a fucking long time that I could have done better in.
/r/TheRedPill30/08/16 10:54 PM
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The worst thing is not trying. Trying and failing is better than not trying. And if you get good, you can decide to make that a career or pursue other things. But being constantly put down by your own parents is the worst thing because as a child they are your world and your guidance.
/r/TheRedPill30/08/16 10:44 PM
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Man I cannot tell you how much I resonate with this. "We did out best" is what they tell me every time I bring up what they did wrong. Simply not fucking true. "Focus on the future" is another thing they tell me. Unless you are a master of the universe, there is always a way you could have done better, there is no shame in this. But if they don't admit it, they are lying out of their teeth. I also experienced that fakeness growing up. When my mother asked me whether I was happy I would fake it b…
/r/TheRedPill30/08/16 10:41 PM
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Yeah, a politically correct beta male or a feminist would come by and say "look at these losers blaming their life decisions on their mothers". But I don't care. It's the fucking truth and people are just too blind to see it. I am seeing great improvements in my confidence and energy level once I figured this out and started deprogramming myself. Beta females also seem way more attractive to me now. No matter what people say, mental attitudes and programming make a huge difference in your life. …
/r/TheRedPill30/08/16 10:32 PM
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That usually goes hand in hand. A real man puts his woman in line, and does not hand the power to her. My father has way too much undeserved respect for my mother, kept telling me how she was smart and her introverted personality was good. Guess what I found out after growing up and seeing the world? She is stupid, makes stupid decisions, and being "introverted" is more like her excuse for not wanting to talk to people due to her competition anxiety.
/r/TheRedPill30/08/16 10:25 PM
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I think so many people go through life without ever learning that.
/r/TheRedPill30/08/16 10:18 PM
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Exactly. If you do this well you will be a winner, and your children will thank you for doing that. So many parents act like they own their children, and baby them until they enter the workforce, at which point they realise they are fucking stuck.
/r/TheRedPill30/08/16 10:18 PM
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Give yourself a break. That's right, not everything is your fault. If you don't like her, there is a fucking reason. If you normally perceived as a cold-hearted piece of shit then those issues may be entirely your fault. But chances are you are not. So she has at least half of the responsibility for your lack of love for her. Don't put yourself down because she loves you, every human loves their children except for the maniacs, that's the fucking bottom line, not a gift.
/r/TheRedPill30/08/16 10:11 PM
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Do you have some personal experience on this if you don't mind sharing a bit? I am actively trying to deprogram myself. But man it takes a lot of mental energy and time.
/r/TheRedPill30/08/16 10:08 PM
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Yep, and look I know that my mother's issues are mild compared to a lot of people, but that's a matter of degrees. The most important thing is that this problem exists for a lot of people, but a lot of them don't realise that.
/r/TheRedPill30/08/16 10:07 PM
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Agreed, that's gold right there.
/r/TheRedPill30/08/16 10:05 PM
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I feel like I should have done this ages ago.
/r/TheRedPill30/08/16 10:05 PM
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Yeah she tried taking most of his money with her. And is going into hiding now.
/r/TheRedPill20/08/16 12:00 AM
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It is a subconscious thing. I am not sure if there is a good way to get rid of that feeling, maybe meditation?
/r/TheRedPill18/08/16 08:52 PM
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I really hope he learnt his lesson, he is a good person. But that is a hard ask for anyone.
/r/TheRedPill18/08/16 08:50 PM
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Can you point to some links to these talks? Do they help you overcome that? I feel like I suffer from this a bit.
/r/TheRedPill18/08/16 08:48 PM
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lol that's pretty funny. Man it is the nature of feminine hypergamy, they are born lik this. Their culture, race do not matter. Certainly in some cultures feminine hypergamy is suppressed more (China, Japan, India), but that does not mean they don't exist. In the right circumstances they will manifest, and that's why we need to appreciate "a woman can never love a man the way he wants to be loved". Plus China is also rapidly becoming more westernized, so there is a huge trend for women to be mor…
/r/TheRedPill18/08/16 06:13 AM
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I think increasing SMV will raise your standard bar - the quality of women you can attract. For example, this actor's wife is pretty, and probably would not have dated him if he was a nobody. But once you have attracted these women and you start dating, what counts is game, frame, and masculinity, to remind them that you are the dominant force. The woman is unlikely to constantly remind herself how much she appreciates you because you have a high SMV. You have to learn to leverage your SMV yours…
/r/TheRedPill17/08/16 09:06 PM
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His agent looks 20cm taller than him, and probably better educated.
/r/TheRedPill17/08/16 08:45 PM
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She is definitely a ruthless bitch, probably would have still done it. But if he had been more alpha perhaps he would not have made it worse by putting her on a grand pedestal.
/r/TheRedPill17/08/16 08:43 PM
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I think he looks average among the average Chinese, which puts him at "ugly" among actors. It's because there are a lot of good looking actors.
/r/TheRedPill17/08/16 08:41 PM
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Very much possible, she is a gold digging bitch who would try to do anything to get more leverage on people with more status.
/r/TheRedPill17/08/16 08:39 PM
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Loving the story. My dad and mom, though not drinking or actively being assholes, also tend to put me down by saying "you can't do that" or "you cannot compete with people like that". They didn't achieve much in life, did not take much risk, and does not like it when I try to. My dad also gave up trying to achieve anything 3 years after he graduated from college (quit his corporate job because it was too "tiring"). He is 55 now and ran a small business with my mom all these years. My goal is to …
/r/TheRedPill17/08/16 11:27 AM
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Think twice before switching though. Medicine is a good field. You will find eventually everything gets boring if you do it for a living, so you might be better off choosing one that pays you the most, which may be medicine in your case. If you want to try something, try on the side, before jumping.
/r/TheRedPill17/08/16 11:18 AM
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Screw that. Believe it or not, even the closest people to you have crab mentality. Their logic goes like this: "I was married for 20 years, how could you do without getting married?", "I could not get an awesome job like that when I was young, how could you do it? It is too risky!". The earlier you distance yourself from their bullshit, the earlier you will start improving.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/16 11:54 PM
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I don't think alpha has anything to do with your occupation. It is a mindset. You can have the best job in the world, but if you got there to please someone else, you are a beta.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/16 11:53 PM
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Revenge is best when it is unintentional. It is when you are being your true self, they feel the regret, and at that point you don't even care or notice their regret. That is the best part about TRP. When you are being your true self, you don't give a fuck.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/16 11:51 PM
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Nope, not nearly to that level.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/16 11:47 PM
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Yeah she is not a smart woman. Otherwise my life would be in a very different place now.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/16 11:44 PM
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Haha I have confidence in my body, not jacked like shit, but good shape among my peers and I do not gain fat no matter how much I eat. Maybe in pure body shape I lose to him by a few points, but I am lifting and sometimes that's just genetics. But I can make up for that in plenty of other areas.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/16 11:43 PM
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Maybe he is. I am fine with that.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/16 11:38 PM
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That mentality is what is going to drag you down. If you believe you can improve, you can. Everybody has the potential to improve and be better. Most people just give up and let life roll over them. Once you have a good mentality, you will not even care about chance with woman anymore.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/16 11:37 PM
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I don't get what you mean. Trying too hard to?
/r/TheRedPill18/07/16 11:35 PM
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I don't talk to her. I had to cancel this account we had together and just asking her to do some paperwork. She texted back.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/16 11:32 PM
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I am not proposing to do work at the expense of long-term health. I think that is quite stupid, and it really actually does not take that much more time to stay healthy. You gotta spend more time than other people doing what you love. But keep slots on your schedule to exercise, eat healthy food, drink green juice, stop smoking...
/r/TheRedPill10/07/16 01:46 AM
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I can already feel those negatives. But I will take waking up and seeing other people destroyed, over being an blissful idiot myself any day. My sympathy will be tested, and I will feel bad seeing other people suffer. But not waking up is damning myself.
/r/TheRedPill09/07/16 12:35 AM
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A lot of things you read on TRP will also be guesses, or are simply not true. But it is so good because it gives you that mindset to question everything, even itself. People who claim TRP has no value are delusional - like you said, they are accepting the status quo without the slightest hint of doubt, and one day that is going to screw them over.
/r/TheRedPill09/07/16 12:30 AM
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That's the essence of my argument. If you are still thinking - as an alpha male you cannot fail in relationships, otherwise you are a beta, you are very much still seeking the validation of women and relationships - isn't that the definition of being beta? The way I understand it, truly becoming an alpha means you are beyond seeking validation from women and relationships. That could be because you found TRP and got unplugged, or that could be because you really don't care about them much. I see…
/r/TheRedPill09/07/16 12:27 AM
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To add to that, I think the fact that he got divorced twice does not automatically means he is a beta. The reason behind this needs to be examined. If his focus was on chasing woman, and he failed twice, then we can regard him as a beta. However, if his sole objective in life is to do something greater, and women are really just some spices in life, or means to have children, then failing in marriage is a possible outcome for him, no matter how much of an alpha he is. Actually, he may be more li…
/r/TheRedPill09/07/16 12:14 AM
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I don't truly believe in a lot of things he claims in his biography. I don't think his goal started off as noble as he claims, so much of the "changing mankind and taking them to Mars" grand goal could just be a propaganda he is using to fuel public attention. I don't think he is a saint and blindly follows him.
/r/TheRedPill09/07/16 12:08 AM
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The society also likes a person who conforms. They follow this doctrine so they want you to do the same. I have adopted the attitude that working on my own stuff is really the point of my existence and women really don't matter that much. But people will question you: "Why don't you date all these girls? Why don't you want to find someone? Look at us happily in a relationship." But on the inside I am thinking: "Relationships are overrated, I am very happy on my own and I enjoy working on what I …
/r/TheRedPill08/07/16 11:58 PM
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Unfortunately I was like this for more than 20 years of my life. The mass brainwashing and disneyfication of the concept of love and relationship have successfully programmed us to think that you have to do the "right" thing or women will hate you and nobody will love you. But those of us who actually try to be the "gentleman" stand there, confused why these girls throw themselves at the bad boys. Following this cult does not make you more attractive in any way. Once you take a step out and brea…
/r/TheRedPill08/07/16 11:52 PM
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Exactly. We all know that even the most stubborn individual is capable of changing a lot of things for someone they are truly attracted to. These things are excuses. Of course finances and everyday living arrangements are hugely important, but the divorce must have started with the death of attraction first.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/16 06:58 AM
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Blue pill programming is so strong, that it is hard to get rid of. It takes effort. It's theories are also easy to believe in, which makes them more dangerous. Choosing to believe in that is choosing the easy way out - like a lot of other brainwashing: if you want to do X you only need to do Y; if I just do this then everyone will love and respect me; if I just care a lot for someone they will love me back; everyone can be a winner. It is damn easy to just believe in this and live a blissfully i…
/r/TheRedPill08/07/16 06:39 AM
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It's scary how majority of males are not aware of this. But also good in a way. Those who wake up will be aware of it when they are handed a plate of bullshit.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/16 06:30 AM
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Agreed, equality is a myth, only one person can be the driver in a car.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/16 06:11 AM
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They are mixing up correlation and causation. Another proof that these so called feminists cannot really think like men. We cannot deny a significant amount of men have sex as too important of an objective. But if you are truly one with a dedication for mission, you will go much further than they do.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/16 02:14 AM
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I think he did not intend for that level of attraction to female to happen. I guess that's the point I am trying to bring up. If you intend for it to happen, you will not get there, and will stop when you attract some amount of good women. Elon was actually rich enough at one stage (after selling Paypal) to buy an island and retire for life (with close to 200 millions). Imagine if he stopped there, or if he slowed down to date hot models, or started being a family man. I think the need for woman…
/r/TheRedPill08/07/16 02:09 AM
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Men climb mountains because the mountain is there. Love this quote. I find myself in this mindset a lot. Looking for challenge regardless of the payoff. Love your examples. I am going to borrow these from now on. I think we just need to target this type of dedication to the right thing, and that thing is certainly not women.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/16 02:03 AM
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Yeah, some of my friends are like "I need time for life, I don't want to work that much", or "I am working hard right now, so I can have a good life later". But I am like "What if my work is my life? And I don't even plan to slow down later?"
/r/TheRedPill08/07/16 01:59 AM
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Yeah. So don't even use that on a woman, hoping she is the right one (it is really hard to tell without years of evidence). So use that on what you want to achieve.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/16 01:56 AM
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We men should do exactly this, taking it scientifically, looking for evidence, not emotion.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/16 01:54 AM
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Yes, the fact that he does not give a fuck about women itself is actually the most alpha you can get. Hence my admiration for him.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/16 01:53 AM
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Yes, in his book he was doing it as a calculation. He was calculating how to do that to a barely minimum so he can have a family. Then he goes off and does his own thing.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/16 01:52 AM
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I think he just does not care enough about it to think too much or analyse it. Which is actually alpha in a way. He is the true embodiment going your own way - I don't even care about women or dating (and so he may fail a lot in this department), I just need to build great companies. I would be truly worried if he starts looking for hot girls, instead of doing tech stuff.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/16 01:49 AM
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I agree with you. I think he just looks at family and woman as a utility. His lack of attention to family is the reason that he gets divorced. So he is very much alpha even though his marriages failed, because he only cares about his career, and does not care enough time to spend time with spouse/family.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/16 01:47 AM
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Yes. And you will find the strength of character will grow fastest if you throw yourself in developing a amazing career.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/16 01:42 AM
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Yes. They often don't know what makes them happy anyway. They think they are happy with a nice guy, but they are in fact looking for one who is alpha, successful, owns his shits and also happen to be a nice guy. Don't play that game of trying to guess what makes them happy. We men are naturally built to attract woman, do and achieve, and they will be attracted. This dedication to career view is not obvious from what the society tells us (they emphasise on dedication to family, or at least it sho…
/r/TheRedPill08/07/16 01:41 AM
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Good point! That's why men are dreamers. They imagine, they risk, they fail and they create. Sure a lot of us may fail but only by doing this, are we capable of doing truly great things. You rarely see this kind of thinking in women. They are more about how much I can get out of things, and how do I add to my own existence. The sad thing is the society encourages us to spend this type of dedication on a single woman, while we can possibly change the world much more by focusing this on our career…
/r/TheRedPill08/07/16 01:32 AM
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Exactly, you can do things your own way regardless of what you do. It is sometimes hard to see this because the world is so complicated. But you will definitely see people in support roles who own that shit, and people in leader roles who fear to face what they truly want to do. A lot of people with glamorous jobs will be in the second category, and be hopeless stuck in a job they hate, but pays for their livings. You can be broke and be a alpha, but be rich and still be a beta. But I suspect th…
/r/TheRedPill08/07/16 01:23 AM
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I think being a provider is somehow still very much a validation seeking exercise. I would argue that if you dedicate yourself to a great career, the provider part comes naturally because you will have lots of resources, and you will naturally solve problems for people (including your partner). So I propose to not to be a provider for the sake of being a provider, but let it come naturally when you are being a dedicated provider at work (providing the company with expertise, or excellent managem…
/r/TheRedPill08/07/16 01:18 AM
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Even if you are a follower you can still be a alpha. You follow, but in your own way, and one day you will become the leader. If you lead, but follow others' opinions, then one day you will be surpassed.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/16 01:15 AM
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A lot of people don't realize this, but assuming that the world does not change is the most dangerous thing you can do. If you really open your eyes and try to see the world as it is, you would have a hard time to even keep up. One of the things that has changed a lot is dating and marriage. Even one generation can make a huge difference due to change, and a lot of people are still stuck in that old mindset their parents taught them - that traditional marriage is still the norm. I believe anyone…
/r/TheRedPill28/06/16 11:38 AM
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Great post. Would love to hear more opinions from men like you who are older and have experienced a lot of the things we are about to go through. In terms of dating in 20s, would you think it is better to prioritize career building and body building than trying to chase girls? Sometimes I feel this urge to find a girl because I am afraid I might miss a good one along the way, and going into the 30s may limit my options to older and divorced women, and a lot of my friends are getting engaged/marr…
/r/TheRedPill28/06/16 11:29 AM
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This is gold. (1), (2), (5) are very important. I regret only learning about this in my late twenties. If I know these back when I finished high school and stopped listening to other people's crap and stick to my own goal, I would have been doing much better. Don't listen to your parents' crap about "oh that's competitive, and an unstable career". They have no idea what they are talking about. Actually talk to real professionals in that job. Give it your best shot, if it fails, try again. Doing …
/r/TheRedPill26/06/16 10:38 AM
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A typical one expects to aggressively progress her career, have a partner who is more successful than her and cares a lot about her, will be there when she needs help, and of course also helps to take care of children. And yes, we all know that men with abilities of that caliber have nothing better to do than date someone who will not contribute anything to the partnership table than merely being a female.
/r/TheRedPill22/06/16 10:42 PM
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That's what I find very troublesome. If you date someone like this she will foil at least half of your ideas, say if you want to try doing something new, or take your life towards a new direction. That's half of the your possible experiences! Gone! It's batshit crazy if you are a young person who actually wants to build yourself a life.
/r/TheRedPill21/06/16 06:41 PM
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Good point on (1): My parents raised me in a way that slowly forced me into being beta, even though I am an alpha at heart. They wanted me to just sit in a "comfortable" job and get married and settle down. I rejected that, and will not give a shit about what they say now that I am independent. You have to realize that they are controlling you, and then you can defy that. Definitely doable.
/r/TheRedPill21/06/16 10:37 AM
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Not only that, but it is built into our nature that men are happier pursuing power and resource, while women are happier caring for family. Just the hardcore biological genetics. You can defy it, but it is damn difficult and could very possibly hurt both parties.
/r/TheRedPill21/06/16 10:31 AM
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Yeah, and I realize guys can do this too, like "why don't hot girls date me?". But I generally don't see men escalate it to "if you are really a worthy woman, you should date someone like me". Guys focus more on "how do I improve my self so hot girls date me?"
/r/TheRedPill21/06/16 10:28 AM
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Accuse men of being that, and of course when they date they still expect men to be the initiator.
/r/TheRedPill21/06/16 10:24 AM
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Exactly, most men dislike, and certainly do not need to live with a pseudo-man. A lot of women got so brainwashed by this, and they just do not see it, because they have no feedback. Certainly no one would really walk up to their faces and say "you problem is you need to be more feminine" (a huge crime in this era dominated by feminists). Even if someone does that, they will get defensive and find some excuse to dismiss that. We see it as men because we see the problem manifested itself.
/r/TheRedPill21/06/16 10:23 AM
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You seem like a smart, career-oriented person and it's a shame sometimes people like you don't get to produce more offspring, instead of those losers who mess around with their time and achieve nothing. I think you do not take away from my thesis. I think probably the opposite is true - you are making a good case that if children is taken away from the equation, then everything would be easy. If we can all reproduce by human mitosis then these feminist problems will be trivial. But anyone not an…
/r/TheRedPill21/06/16 08:10 AM
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Yes, I think they are always out for themselves and it would be fine if your career is smooth and always have it under control. But if ever you reach a tipping point when you run into some problems (would be pretty common, say, if you try to run your own business) and she is doing well, she might use that against you and try to dominate you.
/r/TheRedPill21/06/16 08:02 AM
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Evolution theory for ideas and behaviors? I'm in.
/r/TheRedPill18/06/16 11:39 PM
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Precisely, I am reading "The Selfish Gene" by Richard Dawkins now and this makes me link the your idea to it, and it makes perfect sense. Think of it this way, if being aggressive is a bad behaviour and women find it unattractive, then they would not have descendents with a man like this, and such men would die out pretty fast in the process of evolution.
/r/TheRedPill17/06/16 02:30 PM
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The hardest part. If I can conquer that I would not need to post stuff online about this anymore. I would literally win life.
/r/TheRedPill17/06/16 01:12 PM
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Guess all the more reason to focus on what I am doing now and my career. Build myself to be successful and stable, and try to spot chances to find a girl like this.
/r/TheRedPill17/06/16 09:26 AM
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Yes. But even for that need, I have enough good female friends who are fun to hang around. And I can organize an outings with them at my convenience. I don't need that from a partner. In fact, having a partner will reduce contacts with other females because she will feel insecure. It is funny that the society does these politically correct brainwashing, pumping out females with feminist views, without questioning who are going to be receiving these females in the dating scene on the other end. I…
/r/TheRedPill16/06/16 06:33 AM
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Yeah, now that things are more convenient I always think - if you are so reluctant to do anything for me, why don't I get rid of you and just stay happy with my vacuum cleaner, washing machines, and microwaves? Surely the women think in similar ways too. Hence I feel even less interested in a lot of them.
/r/TheRedPill16/06/16 06:23 AM
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I think a lot of them got grabbed early on too. Because they possess those qualities, they attract guys who behave the RP way, whether these guys are doing it knowingly or by accident. So when the time comes for guys like me to realize that what I really want is someone like that, instead of the so called "strong, independent and intelligent" woman spoon fed to me by the bullshit politically correct media, there is barely any of them left. The other thing I suspect is: this type of girls don't r…
/r/TheRedPill16/06/16 06:20 AM
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I love having my own lovely kids and I am pretty good at taking care of people (much better than a lot of women I would say). So I wonder if it is possible to have kids without keeping one around permanently? That is: without going through a marriage and divorce, which would be financially and emotionally draining. without restricting my self only to woman who are happy with staying in long term relationships without the end hope of marriage. I think this type of woman is quite rare, and putting…
/r/TheRedPill15/06/16 10:23 PM
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I just feel dissatisfied about the women I see in today's environment. I don't deny that I want a good woman, but not someone that is like what I described. I think due to evolution and technology we as human have also changed a lot of things. Hence the feminism theories and the change in modern girls. We have also changed survival (you don't really starve unless you sit on your bum, in any developed country) and replication (we have sex still, but we can choose pregnancy by will). So what I am …
/r/TheRedPill15/06/16 02:25 PM
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Wow mind blown when you say that. Looking at my previous relationships these manipulative traces are visible. I was just too blind to see. But the good thing is in later relationships I realized what was happening and was not following her script because I had seen it before.
/r/TheRedPill15/06/16 02:17 PM
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Ah okay. Just discovered this sub reddit recently. Looks like I have some interesting readings to do.
/r/TheRedPill15/06/16 02:13 PM
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Very interesting theory and it makes sense. Modern world taught us so many theories that are bullshit (at least for quite a significant amount of people), like this "soulmate" thing. I grew up thinking this is what I need. And I really connected with my one of my exes this way. I feel like she was my best friend and soulmate. Needless to say that did not work out. Having someone that could connect to you on that level means that someone is less feminine than normal girls, and that just does not …
/r/TheRedPill15/06/16 02:08 PM
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Interesting idea. Certainly didn't think of it that way before. I guess I was just fed too much of that "accept a person for who they are" bullshit. Strong people with ideas change things proactively all the time, but we are normally only taught about this when we talk about career. Nobody talks about this when it comes to relationships. But come to think of it, it makes perfect sense. Relationship is all about bargaining power anyway. If you are strong enough, then you can mold other people to …
/r/TheRedPill15/06/16 01:57 PM
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What do you mean when you say hamster wheel way of thinking here? Would you mind elaborating a bit more?
/r/TheRedPill15/06/16 01:49 PM
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Yes, I was previous of the opinion that you should aim for a girl and accept everything she is. But now I think I like to take my time, and if things are not going the way I want, I will not be stuck.
/r/TheRedPill15/06/16 12:11 PM
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Yes, flirting is the best part.
/r/TheRedPill15/06/16 12:10 PM
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That is a good point to bring up. I learnt a lot about communication, human interaction, taking things lightly and enjoying life from females in my previous relationships. Even though they fell apart, these things stayed with me and made me happier. Women are more social than us and I learnt a lot. I am now a better communicator and people person than a lot of my male peers I think. The point about good life coming before attracting women is so true. I hope I discovered this earlier, instead of …
/r/TheRedPill15/06/16 12:09 PM
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