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My rent is $840 per week. Who is spending that. Because no one is reaching 80% unless that is counted against them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 01:19 AM
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Agreed. What has society done to make dating easier for women who struggle? Are men forced to date these women?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 11:48 PM
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No from the 10 percent of women already working there.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 04:41 AM
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I’m sure we’d be fine. Any industry loosing s lot of workers at once will suffer s bit in the short term but women are capable of learning the job.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 09:37 PM
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Lets not forget, some of these aren't even true. Women tend to supply more calories of food in a lot of societies. But men make a huge fuss over their larger, one off successes. Doing less but insisting on more praise is the male trait, rather than 'providing'.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 10:24 PM
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"The kicker is that most women don't like guys who have to put in a lot of effort, and consequently these women are often seen going for men that have to put in very little effort."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 12:35 AM
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You also said women don't like men who are late bloomers. If a woman meets a guy who is fit, does she interrrogate him about how long he has been fit? And doesn't like it if he says two years instead of "my whole life"?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 12:26 AM
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Very little effort into what? Are you claiming that some men just get fit without trying when they brush against a barbell? Or are just personable and funny without practice? Or do you mean they don't complain about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 11:29 PM
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Well. I really like it when someone takes me out to a nice restaurant, so I guess I'll go with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 01:29 AM
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Why is it always cooking and not other chores?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 12:41 AM
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I like it if someone does chores for me. That doesn't sound like what people mean when they enthuse over cooking. They don't enthuse over sweeping the floor in the same way. They sort of fetishize it as a submissive act ("Oh, here I amd serving my husband a delicious and healthy meal") but meanwhile it's more like: make the bed, sweep the floor, cut up meat, throw in a load of laundry, gee, I'll be glad when I'm done with all this shit,
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 11:36 PM
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And cooking a chore on par with sweeping the floors, so I'm glad you enjoy it but it's weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 10:56 PM
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If they don't want to get married, are they good marriage prospects?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 11:52 PM
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It's not putting a burden on you. It's telling you how other people get together. This usually works for them and you can participate. If you don't want to, you are relying on a woman who has failed to attract men in this way to become motivated to attract you in a specific, more direct way.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 10:26 PM
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I read a book once which posited that 60% of women are very driven to have children and will even become a single mother rather than miss out, 30% are content either way and will only have children if conditions are good, and 10% actively don't want children.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 12:53 AM
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Who are they dating? If it's not a guy that's just out of a relationship, then it's a guy who has been single for a while?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 09:43 PM
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Has anyone tried financial incentives on this level? Most I've heard is $400,000 for housing in South Korea and apparently that was successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 03:59 AM
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Just the ones who misunderstood it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 09:10 PM
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My point it that you misunderstood the programming. You are meant to avoid unwanted sexual advances, not all advances. Don't persist when she is clearly uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 10:13 PM
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It's not that she wanted you to break the rules, she wants you to let her know that she's interested in her. You think she fancies you, so she has let you know, now she wants you to return the volley. She's playing tennis with someone who lets the ball fall on the ground instead of swinging at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 12:25 AM
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Statistically, women date men who are two years older than them, so the 28 and 29 years olds, 20% of women, are dating men in the next age group. You're now looking at a 2% difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 11:37 PM
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Any proof of this? We're living in an era when men have never been fatter.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 10:09 PM
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Especially if it involves listening to her so you can uphold your half of the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 09:50 PM
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I didn't respond to that part of the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 12:42 AM
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How am I wrong when I haven't said anything about your lived experiences?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 11:55 PM
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No, you're accusing me of being wrong about something I didn't say. Men certainly do those things more than women whether they've been told to or not. What are your opinions on why?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 10:11 PM
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Did I say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 07:47 AM
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Men also tend to like to tell you that you're wrong about your lived experiences even if they're the ones you're currently having. You shouldn't feel scared that he raised his voice. He didn't use a contemptuous voice when he was just talking to you. He's never inconsiderate. You're over-reacting by refusing to go somewhere private with a guy you just met in case he's a rapist. You were leading that guy on because that's the only way the guy would have gotten the wrong idea. I've had male bosses…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 10:42 PM
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Both. Fat isn't attractive. I think more men would probably do it to get sex but be resentful and not treat the woman well.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 08:15 PM
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Men initiate break up just as much with the exception of marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 03:06 AM
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>An aeons old gender role involving protecting women from imminent violent threats, providing the bulk of resources so family doesn't starve, and doing harsh strength-intensive dangerous labor that women's bodies can't cope with, basically vanished overnight in the last 100 years. Meanwhile, women's gender role still exists because babies and extended family networks requiring care still exist. Don't forget, failing to do this, dying in combat and having your daughters/sisters kidnapped as sex s…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 02:55 AM
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I have said more than once that most of the complaining is average looking people who don't want to date each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 02:52 AM
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Because that's who the conversation is about. An 8/10 woman can be on a date with an 8/10 guy and when he goes to the bar to order a drink, some entitled 6/10 guy will try to hit on her, rudely.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 01:14 AM
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I've seen that study. Women at 23 and men at 28. Men never seem to like the second part.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 12:49 AM
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There used to be a saying "A man chases a woman until she catches him." If the guy was as good a catch as he claims, it would be hard for him to be 40 while still being single. They're not saying that he can't get a woman his own age now, it's that he couldn't get one when he was 25-30. He only has success with dumb woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 12:46 AM
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How weird that younger women don't want to be hit on by much older men, don't want women forced into prostitution and don't want to be cheated on. However, we also don't want guys we aren't attracted to hitting on us. Prove us wrong, stop and see if we complain.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 12:10 AM
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I don't need to, I'm married. But thanks for caring. So, how much of a difference do you think it would have to be to luyre one of these reluctant men to the alter?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 12:36 AM
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But there are more men than women in the 'don't want a relationship' pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 12:04 AM
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Then all those people would be in the 'want a relationship' pool. People in that pool aren't just going for anyone, they still vet but they are prepared for/want a mongamous relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 11:45 PM
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No, because there just aren't enough guys who want to be in a relationship. If there are 200,000 single people below forty in a town and 80,000 women want to be in a relationship and 70,000 men do, then no amount of standards lowering will help. Only forcing men temporarily into commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 11:00 PM
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Yes, at some point, they can choose to settle with a cheater or similar. Have some kids then get divorced.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 10:44 PM
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This assumes that there are equal numbers of men and women who want relationships. If 80% of women and 70% of men want to pair up, there are 10% of women who won't find someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 10:23 PM
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How is it better that a woman who has just broken up with a guy stays single for three months instead of one month? To make random guys who she is not dating feel better?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 08:26 AM
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Its true if they’re satisfied with the quality of the guy’s approaching them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 03:16 AM
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They're so pretty? Why do men like blondes so much? Same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 03:36 AM
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Pretty much. I've stopped watching the news so I can care less about things that happen to people I don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 03:34 AM
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How about University and college?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 03:31 AM
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Men typically run about four years later than women. 28 is their peak for looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 11:10 PM
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Down to 30,000. However will you cope.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 11:09 PM
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So if you ever date someone in your league, that's it? You are together forever now.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 09:51 PM
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Maybe women are less likely to be murdered BECAUSE they take precautions?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 10:06 PM
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There also used to be 'enforced socialising' a lot more. Did you want to spend Sunday visiting elderly relatives? No, but you went anyway. Same with Church, your mother's friends, your Father's volunteering, sports events. You ended up with some social skills by the end of it and maybe made a friend/hit it off with some other poor kid dragged along to the event/someone loitering by the snack table/having a smoke away from everyone else. I imagine a lot of people ended up paired and were now allo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 12:50 AM
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Sue for your money back. It just sounds like guys on this board want to be able to fill out a form and have the police drag someone off to jail. There’s a whole legal system to go through and these things already have systems in place but they’re a little more complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 08:40 PM
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Nothing, you don't need to make a special law about it. It's already a crime but one where the courts obviously don't think it's worth pursuing. There's also already a legal method of obtaining justice. You can sue for slander if you want. But no one's making a special law for you because you think it's likely that you will get falsely accused of rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 03:47 AM
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Perjury already carries up to 10 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 03:38 AM
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And the court of public opinion is often swayed towards 'no rape happened', whereas, if you have a dead body, it's hard to say no death happened and you have to go for 'I didn't mean it' or 'he deserved it'.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 03:02 AM
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As opposed to 'she was asking for it', 'we're still married, the divorce isn't final' or 'she just changed her mind afterwards', which have successfully convinced many a juror that rape didn't happen? It's harder to argue that the body isn't dead and they had to make it illegal to consent to being murdered so people wouldn't use that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 02:40 AM
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Yes, I think you're reaching to try and make rape worth more than murder. And any other thing. And more than the guy would get if he was convicted.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 02:34 AM
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As, as crazy as it sounds. The prosecution rate for lying on the witness stand is about 1 per million population. For anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 02:21 AM
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Last time I looked into it, I found a person who faked their death and cost the govt millions in search fees and got under two years. I can't find it again but my googling can't even find someon who was recently convicted. I did find the below site which says that Colorado, a state of 5 million people, filed five perjury prosecutions in 2019 and Engald and Wales are 2-3 times that. There's a high conviction rate but looks like you can pretty much lie on the stand and claim afterwards that you we…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 12:33 AM
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If lying that you saw someone commit a murder only gets two years, how can you justify more for lying about rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 11:23 PM
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Because the penalties for lying in most other cases aren't extreme. Name the last time you heard of someone being imprisoned for lying under oath. Technically, you can get up to ten years. THe only people who get that are gangsters. The cases aren't usually pursued.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 10:41 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 09:40 PM
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Women file more often citing violence, gambling and cheating. other reasons are equally likely to be men or women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 02:09 AM
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Also, i you want a woman in her prime, you have to be close to that. Average age difference for marriage is 2 years. You want a 23 yo, try not to be much older than 25.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 11:09 PM
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Yes, at least half of the guys I told that I had a boyfriend would keep hitting on me. Not that it was a surprise to some of them as they would wait until he went to the bar and sit in his seat. And then ignore me when I said it was my boyfriend’s seat.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 12:27 AM
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An important point, yes. Most of the time men hit on me I had a boyfriend. It did not stop at least half of them. If men kept to single women, that would be a start.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 01:02 AM
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Are you in your 70s?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 10:16 PM
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You seem to be very misinformed about my age.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 08:45 PM
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That was on their profile.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 06:42 AM
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Good luck finding a girl finding a girl who will let you use her without reciprocity which is what you seem to want.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 05:38 AM
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THis works if you compare a short relationship to no relationship but I could be passing up a better relationship with someone more suited to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 04:40 AM
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Because I miss them and wanted to be with them and they obviously don't feel the same way?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 04:32 AM
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Are you a human? Because you don't sound like you know the meaning of sad. A 2yo can better understand me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 04:24 AM
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If someone I really like dumps me, it's solipsistisc to be heartbroken? I don't think you understand people.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 04:18 AM
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I don't see how setting myself up for abuse or heartbreak is meaningful in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 03:41 AM
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Not spernding it how I want. I want a husband and children and a somewhat interesting job. To that end, I went to University, dated with marriage in mind and had the children I wanted with someone who also prioritised that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 01:38 AM
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Relationships are not utility. And no, I have never done anything enough that I would waste my life to do it. I think the people you are thinking of are addicts. They will waste their life for the addiction of choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 01:19 AM
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Why would I want to be heartbroken by being in a relationship with someone I like, who, instead of wanting to marry me, breaks up with me and says he doesn't want kids? Especially when being in a second rate relationship prevents me from finding a good relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 12:57 AM
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It's really important that people agree on wanting marriage and children. We don't have to have everything in common but some things are nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 12:52 AM
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Compatible means he likes the same sort of things I like, that he wants the same future as me and that I enjoy hanging out with him. And yes, I don't want to have sex with someone if I don't otherwise enjoy spending time with them. Having fun is not usually associated with payment for prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 12:25 AM
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A lack of red flags and a slew of green ones. He must be compatible and seem interested in a relationship, not just sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 12:14 AM
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I only enter into sexual relationships with people who I am interested in but also think that the relationship will be a good one. On your criteria, you'd be fine with an attractive psycho, leach or abusive partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 12:10 AM
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Maybe you should look up the definition of prostitution. But you sound like a guy who only spends time with women in pursuit of sex, so this would filter you out....SUCCESS.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 11:48 PM
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No, it's caring for your own interests. If I like a guy but he has a reputation for cheating then it is wiser to walk away, as opposed to have sex with him, get emotionally attached and then get hurt when he cheats on you. It's better to delay sex and look for red flags.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 11:41 PM
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The attraction is still there, you just don't act on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 11:35 PM
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Not even asexual. Just old fashioned dating where the guy takes her places and pays for it with no expectation of sex before marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 11:07 PM
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IIRC, most were 'seeing how things went'.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 10:50 PM
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Those aren’t gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 06:03 AM
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What laws define the gender roles of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 04:51 AM
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It used to be legal until the baby 'quickened' ie. you could feel it move. Which is about 6 months. According to the CAtholic Church.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 04:48 AM
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So they say things? And you don't have to do those things if you don't want to? Like how I ignore trad guys who think women should get married in their teens and have six kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 04:38 AM
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How do women define men's gender roles? A woman could be modern and want a traditional man but said man can say no, he wants a traditional woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 11:27 PM
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Diminishings returns means that the difference between $230,000 and $130,000 is less than the difference between $130,000 and $30,000. Etc etc, $100,000 is pocket change to a billionaire.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 03:46 AM
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I never said they did. As long as you are calling talking over a drink to be courtship. But certainly they feel free after a couple of dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 09:25 PM
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You think it was the other way around? No. Easily 100 to 1.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 09:51 AM
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One did. I got a LOT more offers for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 08:56 PM
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Did I? I was married at 23.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 06:49 AM
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I'm afraid of the outdoors? It's not my opinion, it's an observable fact. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6879192/
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 03:34 AM
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Larger ones exist but they are usually for less attractive and less educated people.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 02:30 AM
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Women prefer guys about 0-2 years older than them so you're talking women from 26-38 here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 01:51 AM
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I also don't remember being inundated with offers of marriage when young.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 01:49 AM
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My mother knew a couple who hated each other but didn't want to downsize. They split their house in two, even having separate fridges. I think a lot of marriages in the old days were closer to this than you realise.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 01:34 AM
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Yes, there's pretty much a whole dating subset who date each other and aren't available to red pill guys or women. They console themselves by saying 'He's an asshole, anyway and she'll regret not choosing me' but really all the people who are both reasonably attractive and also good people tend to pair up.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 11:18 PM
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If you could make you point without insulting our husbands that would be great. All the decent men I know got married.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 09:52 AM
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Assuming women choose sex with someone they aren't attracted to over no sex. Which is a big assumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 02:08 AM
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I know several people it happened to.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 11:53 PM
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So, the situation is not unrealisitc. It happens all the time. Men say they are unemotional and then they act like toddlers when they don't get their way.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 11:39 PM
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My parents were married twenty years and had four kids, he was an active and involved father. He never paid a cent in child support and since it was two years before serious child support reforms, he was not penalised for this in any way. Usually he spent his entire six week holiday with us and called weekly, but we went to a wedding in his holiday time once (my cousin) and he went overseas instead for his next holiday.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 11:27 PM
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If they were married for 15 years and two kids and he was a good father before then, what were the warning signs that he would be a deadbeat after the divorce?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 10:07 PM
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Too late.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 09:25 PM
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Lots of men want to have children when married but balk at paying child support after divorce. I guess she should go find a stepfather got the kids who will step up and leave the deadbeat.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 08:30 PM
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Or he could do everything in his power to support the children he wanted. No responsibility for men in any of your demands. You want women putting up with shitty men out of financial desperation pretty strongly, don't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 12:55 AM
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So if they get married, have children and then divorce, we are just relying on him voluntarily paying child support?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 12:39 AM
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There aren't enough of them. Men can be very pretty once they fall our of love with the child's mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 12:05 AM
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The whole reasons we have laws is the men have shown that not many of them will do it voluntarily.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 11:27 PM
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No, England and most of Europe are the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 11:27 PM
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Then why say you want children to get money from their father?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 11:10 PM
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Just give up then if it's too hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 11:06 PM
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If you asked someone in 1860 if there was a possibility of a black president by 2009 (149 years) what do you think they would say?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 11:06 PM
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>Id rather they get money from their father than the taxpayer. But you also want to ban child support?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 11:00 PM
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Cities in Australia are very geographically separated too. But the solution is to work on your own state.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 10:54 PM
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The US is usually late to the party but they get there in the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 10:53 PM
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If that's your attitude, then just give up. It's not true. In Australia, we've eliminated the draft, moved to default 50/50 custody and started several movements for men's health, including mental health. Movember, Men's sheds and Are U OK? being the most prominent. I'm sure that the US could do the same. They've had some quote successful civil rights movements.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 10:27 PM
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Ask for it back, then. I'm sure she'll give you the whole thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 04:40 AM
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Which is exactly how it used to be for women. And they protested up to and including MeToo. Feel free to start a movement, just be prepared to be told no one else objects, nothing is wrong and "I guess we can't even talk to men, now."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 04:38 AM
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Theoretically, even if all men were identical, there wouldn’t be enough women interested in being FWB for each man to experience it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 09:19 PM
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But there is a limit. If only 20% of women will have a FWB, that means that up to 80% of men won't end up with one, regardless of what they look like.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 03:36 AM
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They're assuming that you know not to hit on girls out of your league.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 03:34 AM
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I'm sorry to hear that. You do realise that the opinion of one bully is not the opinion of society in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 09:41 PM
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No evidence they wouldn’t either.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 07:11 AM
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And men are free to rate fat women however they like. I am not going to rate men higher just because so many of them are fat. Mathematical average or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 06:18 AM
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You're expecting women to lower ratings because men got fat. We're still using the normal rating, thank you. 40% of men are fat, 40% are getting a below average rating from me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 05:28 AM
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Most people move on from bullies. And I doubt anyone just randomly hates you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 11:16 PM
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Bullies will pick on you for anything. Don't base your life around what they bully you for. And I would say that 'society' treats you badly for something a bully said.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 10:26 PM
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I was bullied for being shy and having long hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 10:16 PM
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Obviously I know the close ones. Are close relatives of yours treating you badly? I assumed you were talking more of the general public.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 11:24 PM
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I don’t even know the relationship status of most of the men I interact with.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 10:28 PM
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It is where I live. Still guys complaining as there is no show off component and it costs money.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 09:58 PM
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Because lots of men want that and not many women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 09:45 PM
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Firstly, if they had to share, then they didn't find one for themselves. Secondly, even if he is willing, there are two other people who also have to agree to this. Generally, most people consider polygamous people to be unmarriageble under the standard definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 08:24 AM
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I have more self respect than to share. As to your standards, it's a question of how many men want such a girl and how many there are. There may be enough, there may be leftovers or there may be not enough and some men will miss out.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 07:01 AM
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I look forward to seeing your stats. There are millions of marriageable men but less than the number of marriageable women. And every woman can't find a good guy based on just those criteria.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 06:38 AM
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One study, once for one age group found that women cheat more. Every other study says it's men who cheat more. You said all women go for 15 of the men. And my point is that, there are not enough marriageable (ie. meet the minimum standards of not cheating, beating you or gambling all the money) to go around. Some women can do it, but not everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 06:27 AM
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That is just not supported by the facts. The facts are that men cheat more, are violent more and gamble more. More than 15% of men get married. And yes, looks count too but the general consensus is that women are the more attractive gender so that's going to further reduce the pool of marriageable men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 06:10 AM
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My point is that you can't. if there are say, 60 good marriageable women in a town and only 55 marriageable men, then 5 women are going to end up with a guy who cheats on them, hits them or gambles all the money away. There aren't enough good guys for each of the good women to have one.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 05:43 AM
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I disagree. I think there are more marriageable women than men. Just the cheating, violence and gambling stats alone disqualify more men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 05:32 AM
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No one says that some women don't go for criminals, just no one we know.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 09:45 AM
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This was before, raising women s from 60 to 65. Currently there’s a system where you get more money per week if you don’t start drawing the pension until 70.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 11:43 PM
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They did this in Australia. They lifted the women's retirement age 6 months every year for ten years until it was the same as men's.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 01:21 AM
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Didn't tall violent men run around killing other men and kidnapping women well before women had a chance to choose the man they wanted?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 08:45 AM
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So he doesn't care who you are> Just that you look pretty? Sounds like a shit relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 07:42 AM
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It's because height used to correlate with health to a much greater extent. Women who liked tall men had more children survive. And tall men were more successful warriors and kidnapped and raped more woman and had more children.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 10:27 AM
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Most people wouldn't work their current job if they could get the money without doing the work. Nothing to do with kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 09:40 AM
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I'd totally choose to stay home with kids if I was paid the same as working. What kind of question is that? It's not usually an option, you have to choose between SAHM and money. No really, even without kids I will call out of work for the rest of my life if someone sends me the money I would have earned instead. Also, my husband will too.But even if it was an offer just for me, he would accept me doing the housework and supplying half the money. The whole survey was stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 08:12 AM
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Yes, this sub thread is talking about biological clocks. Women have a physical one but men have to find a younger woman if they want to have children when they are older. Given a population with equal numbers of men and women, each childless woman leaves a man who must also be childless, or who must have children with a woman who already has children. The you asked why he would have children with her and not pump and dump her. Which is kind of a nonsensical answer but I tried to direct you back …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 07:56 AM
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Comparison is the thief of joy. If everyone you know lives in a one roomed farm house and has twelve kids and six of them die then a) that's just the way life is. No one to be jealous of. b) if you have ten kids but none die then you should be happy, certainly happier than your neighbour who lost all her children to the sweating sickness in a week. c) religion. I'm not religious but I'm sure it was comforting when everyone you know would affirm that you would see your loved ones again as long as…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 07:46 AM
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Perhaps you should start a grass roots movement towards male therapists. Or become one yourself. Or encourage your male family members to become therapists.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 07:37 AM
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And men, would they like to work full time if their family didn't suffer financially? Which would require, I assume, being paid the same amount for not working.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 07:35 AM
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And how many of those married childless women aren't having children because the marriage is bad? Lots, I hope. Cut him free and find a good marriage before bringing kids into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 07:32 AM
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How does that help him have children?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 07:04 AM
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Have to go with successful marriage rate instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 05:06 AM
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They think they do. While men can physically father children much later, there are studies showing that men rarely become first time fathers after the age of 42. Lots of men overestimate the number of much younger women who will marry an older man and many men have missed out on children by waiting too long. Remember, for every childless cat lady, there's a male equivalent of a guy who has to marry a woman who already has children.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 01:33 AM
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Right on the first page "Automatically many people think that abuse only happens to women, this is not always the case. Abuse can happen to children (including teenagers), babies, grandparents and men, it does not discriminate between gender, age, nationality or religion, it can happen to anyone."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 10:22 PM
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https://www.heartsofpurple.org/
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 09:42 AM
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Most people do. Every celebrity you hear about supporting disease research turns out to have a family member with the disease and I always await the coming out when they start supporting gay rights. Don't forget I had to raise four children during this time. And I do always tell people to see a solicitor, not listen to garbage like 'Men never get custody'. I do support charities as well. I used to collect for a male domestic violence shelter, but they stopped coming cross border during Covid, Bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 08:46 AM
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Nature is sexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 03:59 AM
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He is usually aware that he has had sex and an use the putative father registry. And if he hears of an infant abandonment, he can take himself down to the police and ask to be tested.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 03:57 AM
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Men in Australia are entitled to single parent payments the same as women, if they qualify. All the laws are gender neutral.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 03:55 AM
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Hence Bladerunner where they force grow them and slap some memories in there of growing up instead of letting them grow up.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 03:42 AM
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My husband and I sued to prevent his ex moving away and taking his daughter with her. This was a landmark case in our state and has led to a situation where the custodial parent can't change custody just because they want to move. My husband and I paid for my son to sue his ex for visitation of his daughters and they are transitioning to 50:50 custody by January. That was $18,000 but could have been $0 if she wasn't dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 03:35 AM
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He is being passive aggressive "Fine, if you leave then I'll just die." Otherwise, why tell people about his test results? He could have either had treatment or not as he wanted but instead he told people until it got back to her her and when she came around to talk to him, he didn't tell her it was none of her business and to leave, instead he let her move back in and take care of him. He got what he wanted without actually having to ask her to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 03:24 AM
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You’re unfamiliar with the term passive aggressive then?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 12:30 AM
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You are one arguing circularly. He had two choices which were adult actions and he chose to let someone else decide.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 07:35 AM
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Doing something because your parents/society told you to is the lowest level of decision making. Hence people rebelling against their parents but often finding themselves agreeing with them later in life. They've taken their assumptions and examined them , instead of blindly accepting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 02:32 AM
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Then if he didn't want to go, he should have been an adult and said no.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 08:38 PM
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Someone has to do important things. And yes, you get judged if you can't. Especially if you dump the necessary work onto someone else. If your cousin agreed, he should do what he agreed to.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 12:38 AM
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Adults do things even if they're scared. She did it and would presumably also have to make the arrangements for herself if she had cancer. Let me reiterate, they were separated, it was no longer her responsibility. Why was your cousin three hours late?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 12:13 AM
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Money is one thing but a lot of older people need caregiving. And for rich people, that can be four people a day with day/night shift, a nurse and some to do personal care. With so many older people, I can easily see conditions for poorer elderly people being minimal and lots of them dying early due to infections, choking and just bad levels of medical care.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 10:14 PM
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As I said, they were split up. He could have asked her to leave at any time.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 08:26 PM
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Was he a man in charge of his own destiny or was he too scared to get the results? Was he an adult who chose not to see a dr but his wife bullied him into going? He should have been capable of either making an appointment to see the dr or telling her he had decided against treatment. He did neither.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 01:00 AM
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Gee, it's almost as if women are complaining about lack of reciprocity.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 11:17 PM
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My uncle got a blood test which indicated possible cancer but he had to travel for the appointment to confirm. He didn't. His wife, from whom he was separated had to move back in with him and force him to go and get treatment. For cancer.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 11:04 PM
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Yes, that's why men live longer when their wives drag them to the dr.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 10:53 PM
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What has that to do with fitness. Men can easily achieve an attractive level of fitness with a bit of sport.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 09:06 PM
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I know I have type but since my husband matches that type, I’m fine with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 08:48 PM
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I know I have type but since my husband matches that type, I’m fine with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 08:48 PM
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Men are notorious for this. They want to act like a toddler but also get the respect of the ;man of the house'. But how can you respect someone who can't put their clothes in the hamper or make their own dr appointment.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 08:26 PM
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It's not strange to complain if its one sided all the time. Both parties should do half.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 08:22 PM
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There's a male loneliness eipidemic and part of that is that a lot of men just aren't very good friends. They aren't providing the emotional labour that men of ppd apparently do all the time. So it would appear that it's not one then the other, it's both sides where one person is giving and the other is not. It's just more common for women to be the provider, that doesn't mean it never happens to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 08:21 PM
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No. Look at that visdo of school boys from the 60s that gets posted here all the time. A normal healthy lifestyle without being stuck in front of a computer will do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 08:15 PM
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He friends with these girls but apparently expects sexual interest from them because…he wants it. Maybe people he thinks of as friends want to bang him and he’s not interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 03:17 AM
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I'm dying to hear how you feel about your male friends. And how the gay ones feel about you not offering up your butt to them and helping him fulfill his desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 10:36 PM
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When I look at some people who are objectively attractive, I just don't feel sexual desire. Is that shallow? Would I end up in a dead bedroom if I dated them?Do they want me to date them if I don't find them attractive? Some of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 10:13 PM
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I've previously read that women's tears are chemically different to mens's.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 11:49 AM
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And men can exercise and gain muscle, for which they are born with a lot of potential. In comparison to beauty and height which just are. You've even eliminated intelligence which is partly inherent, although education and enrichment helps.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 11:41 AM
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Presumably ugly and infertile women find this constant praise of how easy \women's lives are to be annoying too.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 01:34 AM
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Men get their height through no effort and all that does in annoy guys when women say it's a desirable trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 01:04 AM
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He had social proof, he was just annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 11:46 PM
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I was asked out by an autistic guy once. He was the son of my mother's best friend so I had known him for years. For some reason, that day, he decided to state the make of every car that drove past. So while he Toyota, was asking me, Ford, on a date, Hyundai, he kept interrupting himself. It was super annoying. Would you ask out a girl who did this?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 11:27 PM
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Which is worse, a woman over 30 who has been in 3 relationships with Chads or one who is 22 but had 20 ONS with Chad?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 08:10 AM
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It's apparently okay if the woman is free to choose. She will look at whether it's better to be fourth wife to a wealthy man or first/only wife to a much poorer man and make an optimal choice (on average). Usually these aren't societies which have love matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 07:11 AM
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Or different ones. Which is interesting, sports or cars? Personally I prefer cars but I've seen a lot of women who prefer sports guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 10:41 PM
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Perhaps women are victims less BECAUSE they take precautions. If a man walks home alone and the woman takes a cab with a friend, then he is more likely to be mugged.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 07:06 AM
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I think it when the police ask you "Who assaulted you?" and you tell them a name, rather than say you don't know,
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 07:03 AM
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You can certainly make yourself look uglier fairly easily. There is a ceiling to attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 06:59 AM
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The one I've seen is that women have input into 80% of family purchases. Yeah, no shit, we ask each other before we spend large amounts of money. House, car, food and essentials amount to 89% for most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 05:57 AM
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You shouldn't let it get too lopsided, you need reciprocation.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 08:45 PM
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Most people expect a relationship to include sex. And you weren't going out on dates in you were long distance. Were you buying gifts for someone, repeatedly, with no reciprocation? And from there you are trying to move to sex before the first date. Well. you can take any tack you like, this one only seems suitable for someone with a lot of prospects, like an attractive woman, as I suspect you will be discarding a lot of women who might be a good match.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 09:38 AM
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Then it depends on your goal. You want sex, this is a good strategy, rips the band aid off, so to speak. You want to meet your future wife, you're nexting a lot of good prospects. Works for women, let's see if it works for OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 02:40 AM
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Next. If there's one thing there's no shortage of, it's men who want sex without commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 02:27 AM
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Which is what women are complaining about when they say men only want sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 12:17 AM
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Based on my time on this sub, if the guy is better than the woman in any way, he is Chad. If he's taller, richer, funnier, better looking. The only success that counts is if a woman dates down in every category, then they won't call the guy Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 12:04 AM
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Attractive women aren't usually single. Most of the time guys hit on me in public, I was dating someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 07:25 AM
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Men still have the desire to be hypergamous, which makes it jealousy rather than moral superiority.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 11:47 AM
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Keep reading >men express a desire for an analogue of hypergamy based on physical attractiveness; they desire a mate who ranks higher on the physical attractiveness scale than they themselves do
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 05:03 AM
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How dare you imply that Tommy Lee Jones wasn't hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 06:24 AM
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As opposed to spontaneous, which is triggered because a certain amount of time has passed since you last had an orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 07:23 AM
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Yes, it's like hunger for food. Generally you get hungry three times a day or whatever(spontaneous). Then, someone brings in some hot chips and you can smell them and all memory of lunch disappears (responsive).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 07:22 AM
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Like I said, enough signals and you don’t need to be anxious.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 09:17 PM
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Just acknowledging that they exist would be a start.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 08:50 PM
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I kissed him first, is that enough? Regardless, it worked for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 08:49 PM
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We ended up married. How did you meet your wife?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 08:48 PM
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It's what works, according to this study. This is how relationships start in 8 out of 9 times. Maybe this should be the thing you should concentrate on if you want a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 08:48 PM
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Why would i care about credit? The article is saying that women are the selectors which men here always say. Women aren't sitting there waiting to be chosen, they are guiding the guys they want into asking them out. in a way which is observable to researchers. It's like the opposite of pick up artists who seem to think they can convince women who aren't into them to be into them. At best, they are picking up women who chose them. Or, you know, they're rapists.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 09:39 AM
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Which is not really that hard when the other person has indicated that the answer will be yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 08:43 AM
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Judging by this thread, they don't. It's not a one off statement, both people indicate interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 08:15 AM
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If she wanted him that much, she'd make it clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 05:45 AM
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Are women banned from asking men out? No Are they socially punished. A bit. Some work is needed. But I'll be fine. I met someone using the socially agreed upon method of meeting people. We met at about 9pm and talked and flirted all night until we took the last bus home at 1pm. This is less about feminism and more about neurotypical than neurodivergent imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 02:47 AM
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We met at about 9pm and talked and flirted all night until we took the last bus home at 1pm. It was mutual.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 02:25 AM
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My husband says he asked me out because I made it clear that the answer would be yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 12:42 AM
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Read the study. Men don’t notice but researchers can see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 12:37 AM
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It's a multi step dance. Withe both people moving forward a bit at a time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 12:21 AM
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It starts relationships more than what men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 12:20 AM
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And those men are wasting their time according to this study. Putting themselves out there to women who aren't interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 12:20 AM
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It's actually how most people get together, so it counts. If some people can't understand or admit that, then I guess that explains why they are single. Even the study show men think they initiated.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 12:14 AM
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She would if if was at the appropriate stage. If he catches her eye and smiles she has the option to smile back.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 12:11 AM
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It's a dance dude. Eye contact, smiling at each other, coquettish looks. I understand guys just want to skip to the fucking but that's not what most women want.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 12:07 AM
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You haven't met many salesmen.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 12:06 AM
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The vendor understands and walks over.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 11:20 PM
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They never do. I've brought up similar studies several times and the men here think it doesn't count even though it's obviously how most hookups happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 11:20 PM
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No one's even talking about the guys being successful. But the 3000 men are mostly trying to ons not a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 11:06 PM
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I think this is one of those things where some women are into it and the rest of are are standing around wondering what she sees in the guy. I'm not trying to say groupies are not a thing but in my life, no one has ever mentioned a guy's status as a selling point, either directly or indirectly.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 04:48 AM
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Never had one. But your amazement that women don't want to be bored during a date is interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 05:03 AM
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I didn’t say they weren’t. Usually people post opinions asking for input. My input is that I think the women were honest and that it wasn’t ‘women are just prettier’ ‘ scoring system’ or ‘virtue signaling’. Fat men are not attractive to me . Take a large normally distributed group of men , make 40 percent of their pics look fat and that’s how I’m rating them. I don’t see a problem with this data at all. Sorry if your feelings are hurt. I don’t know why men rated the women so highly. Reluctantly …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 09:12 AM
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I wouldn't rate them that way. Men apparently did. Boobs maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 07:55 AM
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If you think men are on a bell curve f attractiveness when 40% of them are fat, I don't know what to tell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 07:09 AM
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You said yourself it's holding him back. I'm not saying it should, you said it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 09:23 PM
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I mean, OP said he'd date someone as tall as him, so he's not prepared to date taller.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 07:20 AM
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Then shyness is his flaw. You can look and see why he is failing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 04:21 AM
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Technically, no. But in the sense of dating, I don't know anyone who is so attractive and accomplished that if I heard they were struggling to date I would go "They're having trouble meeting someone....???!!!"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 03:31 AM
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Again, are they lying to the guy in an attempt to use him for sex? Which is what women are usually complaining about.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 10:07 AM
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Why would none be suitable? He chose to ask them out and they said yes. Are they just trying to use him for sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 09:56 AM
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No, because she can't date those men, she has been asked out by some guy who is pretending to be interested in marriage in order to have sex with her and she is limited in the number of dates she can go on. She doesn't have unlimited time. She might go on one date a week, 52 in a year but only two are suitable guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 09:38 AM
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Mathematically, how are there more suitable men for each woman than each man? Especially by a large margin?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 02:35 AM
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It's OP whose denying that this requires effort and is not a good thing. Apparently men would love to go on dates with women they aren't interested in having sex with. Or spending time with once they stop lying about how they love everything you like.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 02:28 AM
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Bad choices are not an advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 02:25 AM
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It's about suitability rather than quality. And if I wasn't spending so much time dating men who are unsuitable, I'd have more time for the ones who are suitable.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 02:01 AM
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Does it? If there are say, 50 people in my area who would be compatible with me and the each have the same number of women compatible with them, then another 950 men trying to have sex with me by pretending to be interested is actually preventing me from meeting those men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 01:40 AM
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Whose attractiveness? I've always heard that men are worse. And by heard I mean the study i read.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 05:42 AM
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Life. I don't know any perfect people who struggle but I know a lot of imperfect people who have succeeded.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 11:27 AM
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Not who you were talking to but I'm usually busy doing whatever errand I am on and not thinking of how attractive I am at all. When they interrupt, it's like being interrupted by a salesperson. They think you have enough $$ to purchase whatever they are selling. They want something from you, they want to advantage themselves by the interaction, not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 08:10 AM
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Celine Dion.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 04:43 AM
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That first year out of Uni when you're on your own, you grow up a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 09:53 PM
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In that case working parents work two jobs, as they're sahp in the evening and mornings and working their normal jobs during the day. Which would not then be two jobs. One of the big downsides is that it is constant. Paying someone to do 8 hours of it means you are not doing the full job. And usually you pay them to do it somewhere other than your house so your house remains tidy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 11:35 AM
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I agree. I have broken up with more than one guy because I was wildly attracted to another, as I took it as an indication the first guy was not the one. In no case did i go on to date the second guy, they were usually long gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:37 PM
2

And you run those fathers dna tests through the crime database for any crimes he may have committed, then I'm fine with it. Rules for men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 04:57 AM
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Hopefully that we were stupid and small minded and wasted time on unimportant things. That would mean they have moved on to bigger and better things.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 04:00 AM
1

If it's any consolation, i thin most people in the past were horrible, small town bigots who were overly concerned with what their neighbours did, both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 08:32 PM
2

No one is stopping that from happening. Some women don't want that. And maybe some of them do but don't want the man that goes with it. Maybe Sally Ride would have happily been a housewife to another woman but that wasn't a choice open to her. And for most of history she would have been blocked from everything except wife or nun. Even if 90% of women want to be housewives, why can't the last 10% do whatever they want? Odds are, they'll be mediocre parents anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 03:31 AM
1

They did. The only girls I knew who dated much older guys were married with four kids before they were thirty.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 09:48 PM
1

Yes, I agree. They were dating them because they wanted to get married and have kids, not wait ten years for guy their age to be ready.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 08:46 PM
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>He was actively trying to stop his hooker hobby and find a real girlfriend It's too late.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 12:20 AM
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Yes, the whole concept of prostitution is revolting.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 12:19 AM
1

Which would explain why most young women don't date much older guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 09:26 PM
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I don't think we're quite there yet. Maybe another 50 generations and we can talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 04:20 AM
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Let's assume that your premise is true. What does it say? It says that of a group of women who reproduced with tall, fit men versus a group of women who reproduced with pick up artists, the former had more and healthier children. Therefore it is better for women to have this preference. For society, about which red pill cares so much. It's the opposite of shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 03:55 AM
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The trouble is that girls go all 'My boyfriend this, my boyfriend that." and men are "Why does she complain about her boyfriend all the time?" dude, she's humblebragging and trying to get rid of you at the same time. "You'll meet a nice girl one day." is actually a suggestion that today could be that day.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 01:21 AM
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So many people in the past used to rent a room instead fo living by themselves, so maybe that's a step up? Depending on the relationship. Maybe it's just a return to the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 01:09 AM
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Just to be clear, only 8% of women have an hourglass figure. About 70% are pear shaped.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 05:52 AM
1

Some, yes, but not as many as there were women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 09:52 PM
2

I have actually read a book on this subject. And the answer is that women have other things to do. Even childless women tend to change careers more often than men. Not to have a mental breakdown or to quit work, just to do other stuff. They achieve what they want out of a job, then leave. To do another job.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 11:18 AM
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I have a college degree and have dated four men without one. Three of them had an issue with it and kept bringing up how they were going to go to college or could have gone to college, all the time. I married the fourth.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 11:11 AM
2

If they're hot, how are they delusional? They probably can get whatever you think they're delusional about.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 08:44 PM
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And now you have just called my husband an arsehole. And a lot of other married men. I know plenty of women who married nice men, maybe this gets more common as people pair up, leaving more single people who have trouble with relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 07:34 AM
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So the twelve guys the woman is dating in one week, that's the only date those guys are getting in two weeks? Which gives a ratio of 24 guys to one woman? So only one in 24 women can do this?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 10:39 AM
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I don't know about you but a date where we are not vibing is not fun, it's long and tedious. To add to that, the guy will usually get handsy and when you turn him down, there's the awkward conversation about why not. I'm glad to be out of that. There are people who enjoy dating but i am not one of them
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 10:29 AM
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How appreciative were you of all the work she did? Or do you just go around telling people how easy she had it?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 10:27 AM
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If you're claiming that there are equal numbers of marriageable women and men, then then how is it harder? If there are say, 50 men who are suitable matches for me in a 100km radius, then those men also have 50 women who are good matches for them. I might get more 'noise'... men who want casual sex, which doesn't interest me, but there we are, trying to find each other. Men have to ask out women they don't know but women have to vet men who ask them out. They can equally get their time wasted by…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 03:02 AM
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LOL. Someone hasn't been a SAHM and it shows.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 02:53 AM
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Bisexual people are also attracted to women. I'd be more impressed if she seduced a woman who then changes her mind when she finds out that Norah is a woman. That means she was a convincing man.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 12:48 AM
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I'm pretty sure someone studied this and the most common was a gradual lowering of all stats simultaneously. People who value only one thing are outliers.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 11:11 PM
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>that 63% of women reportedly would never date a Bisexual man, also proving that most women can not handle their man opening up emotionally if it was about him discovering he is Bisexual after they are already dating, etc. this is a frankly bizarre leap in logic. 'Opening up" is not a cheat code for confessing anything and calling the woman a liar if she doesn't like what you say.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 10:53 PM
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One of whom had sex with her once she admitted being a woman. Sounds like she managed to pull a lesbian.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 10:36 PM
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So how does inducing obligations sex help that?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 11:02 PM
2

You aren't trying to induce desire in her, you're inducing obligation sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 11:00 PM
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Men never cease to surprise me with how much they want sex with women who don't want them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 01:12 AM
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Well it looks like no more sex. I've had my children, the only reason I have sex it because I enjoy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 12:38 AM
2

Well, I would have been had I not gotten married at 25.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 08:29 PM
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It really needs people to add in their own stats. If I am a 26-31yo not obese unmarried woman of average height, those are completely reasonable standards, regardless of what percentage of people they account for. An obese woman over 50? Probably not going to find someone with those stats.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 10:20 AM
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I hope you have learned to coexist in society without turning into a drooling idiot every time you see the outline of a nipple then, if you would prefer I phrase it that way?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 03:42 AM
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Hopefully not at your job.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 01:41 AM
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Same way that guys here insist that if men all improved, women would only want the top 10%. Firstly, men haven't all improved and secondly, men are fatter than they have ever been so thirdly, you can't prove that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 09:39 PM
2

Yes, so eyes on your work instead of nipples.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 09:35 PM
3

You then went on to say that you stared at nipples and camel toes for eight hours a day.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 04:27 AM
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You are claiming that 'softer features' does not affect 'handsomeness'.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 10:51 PM
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I think it's gone beyond that. There was a big religious push for women to be married and have children to be thought an adult (men too, to a lesser extent). Now, it push comes to shove, I think a larger than expected group of women would choose staying in their parents house over an unhappy marriage. Might as well just be a carer for your own parents instead of a man and his parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 10:16 PM
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Did you ever think about looking at your schoolwork instead? And do you think those girls were regularly having orgasms from that sex with teenage boys?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 12:36 AM
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The only women I knew who married older wanted to get married and have children right away. So they chose between waiting for younger men to grow up, single motherhood or marrying a 5-10 year older guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 12:24 AM
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There’s a link there which leads to a very extensive study which I summarised for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 08:13 AM
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Some sort of data would be nicer than your unsourced opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 07:38 AM
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Women dump men out of boredom at the same rate that men dump women out of boredom. Women dump men for alcoholism, cheating, gambling and violence at much greater rates. https://aifs.gov.au/research/research-reports/towards-understanding-reasons-divorce According to this study, women were the initiators in 64.2% of divorces, according to them, with 16% mutual. According to men, it was the woman 53% of the time with 26% mutual. It’s about 20% for men only whoever you ask. Now what were the reasons…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 01:31 AM
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Sorry, that was kartu.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 12:47 AM
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No. It's factual. More couples list the man cheating as a reason for the divorce than the woman cheating. It's only a manosphere argument that women file for divorce frivolously, instead of because they are the injured party. And don't forget violence, drugs and gambling which are also cited as reasons for divorce from men. Unless you are claiming that happy men are cheating and violent. I'm also intrigued by your claim that women initiate marriage. A woman proposing is still unusual.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 11:14 PM
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Not sure of what your point here is. I’m still married.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 10:11 PM
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Men cheat instead then the woman files for divorce and they can blame her.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 08:45 PM
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LOL. Most men won't put in the work to raise a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 09:57 PM
2

Dating's not really fun. We want the commitment in order to get to the fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 09:42 PM
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So don't care. But how it is possible mathematically for men to have what they want, several sex partners, then marry someone with a low N count?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 02:11 AM
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Interestingly, the gap between the two dropped from over 14% to only 10%.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 01:54 AM
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Darn. I wanted to use this one "Most adults born in 1940-1944 were married by age 25 (79.6% of women and 65.3% of men)." to ask why no one of this board complains about the obvious male loneliness epidemic in under 25 yo men in the sixties and why it's the fault of Tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 01:53 AM
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According to a book I once read, it's 10% childless, 30% will do it if conditions are right and 60% will have a baby no matter what.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 01:17 AM
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Mathematically impossible and also if the fuckboys left I might actually be able to find the good matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 08:13 PM
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It's like 50/50 she was trying to ditch these guys with an extended 'I have a boyfriend' scene.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 08:10 AM
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So if this woman was the guys looks match and she already had a boyfriend and told them that....?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 08:08 AM
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Exactly. Money is the privilege, getting targeted for scams is the downside. Getting targeted for scams is not a privilege, it's the thing you're avoiding.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 11:57 PM
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There have to be upsides as well as downsides to be a privilege. Beauty is a privilege and the downside is all the guys pestering you for sex. The guys pestering you for sex are not a privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 11:37 PM
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Money has an upside as well as the down side. So does celebrity. Men after casual sex have no upside to a woman who does not want casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 11:23 PM
1

So you are claiming that they are matching men who are good and compatible men but not dating them?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 08:39 PM
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So these women are going on dates with ltr oriented guys but have not managed to get into a ltr? Or are the guys just saying they want a ltr?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 08:06 AM
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You're comparing two different scenarios. The equivalent of a guy with zero matches is a woman with no matches who would consider having a ltr with her. The equivalent of a man who gets five matches a month is a woman who gets five similar matches and 495 men who are after casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 07:32 AM
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If I don't want it and it actually wastes my time it's as much a privilege as salespeople accosting me at the mall.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 12:11 AM
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Some women do, but as someone who doesn't, it's not a privilege. I don't know any women who 'changed lanes' like that. I know a few who married but they married ex-fuckboys.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 11:41 PM
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First, you acknowledge that for women who don't want casual sex, guys who only want casual sex are not a privilege and are a waste of my time.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 11:31 PM
2

The guy above says he is also but older.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 08:36 PM
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He’s tall and good looking with social skillls.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 04:12 AM
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My son, who has two daughters but is in his twenties, has no trouble.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 09:41 AM
2

There are actually studies which show your happiness returns to it's baseline as soon as 8 weeks after a crippling injury.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 09:29 AM
1

No. Obviously it affects attraction but a person is their personality. If they were scarred etc ‘they’ would not be changed but their physical body would be.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 03:47 AM
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Loving someone for their looks is the complete opposite of loving them as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 11:29 PM
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Luckily for men today, a large percentage of men are fat so men as a whole haven't risen by self improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 07:20 AM
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Yes, we should return to telling miserable people to shut up and then claiming that everyone was happy. Look at the rates at which men died in wars, women died in childbirth and everyone died from what are now preventable diseases and try to convince yourself that people in the past were all happy and fulfilled. Religion was basically invented to convince people that all their suffering in this life will be rewarded in the afterlife.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 07:35 AM
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I'd disagree to some extent. I think part of the reason is that some people AREN'T wired that way and they have been forced into societal roles for generations. My grandmother didn't have a maternal bone in her body but she had four children and only stopped because she finally gave her husband a son and refused to have sex with him him again afterwards. One of the three girls, my youngest aunt. told me she didn't really like children but got more attached when they were school age. She had two …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 01:55 AM
1

Of course, but mostly, people think that if an ordinary girl hit on Timothy Chalamet, then he should still be flattered, not annoyed even if she is the twentieth girl to do it that day. it's a compliment and he's not in any danger.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 10:25 AM
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Apparently 25% of men and women in Tibet are monks and live lives of celibacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 08:18 AM
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There's a cultural narrative that it's not unwanted if it's towards men and the woman isn't totally gross. Many men here on this subreddit agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:44 PM
4

Prostitutes and gold diggers have to tell them something when they ask "Why me?"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 08:54 AM
2

I'm all for people doing what they want. That doesn't mean I want to date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 12:14 AM
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The only person I know who was in one actually did time for rape because of it. I didn't know him particularly well but apparently he was told it was on and joined in and she went to the hospital after and reported it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 08:42 PM
3

Presumably ending up with a guy with a high N count means they both settled as they preferred a lower N count.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 08:35 PM
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I'm all for people doing what they want. That doesn't mean I want to partake.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 07:26 AM
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It's literally irrelevant whether she sent them to her boyfriend or someone she liked or the newspaper. >women are falling for handsome badboys and it's quite literally ruining their lives because evil spreads Action "women are falling for bad boys" leads to "evil spreads" which is a LOVELY diffusion of responsibility, then a girl is stabbed. If only she hadn't sent her nudes then some guy she never dated wouldn't have killed her.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 07:25 AM
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My husband wanted it done and I didn't. So I just told him he had to organise it and take the baby. Not done.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 01:09 AM
2

You're still blaming Katie for being murdered.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 10:49 AM
2

Really, that's your takeaway? That is was Katie's fault she was stabbed because she sent nudes to her boyfriend?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 10:12 AM
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He probably wasn't the first or only guy who asked her out after the nudes were leaked either.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 10:08 AM
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Marriage covers a multitude of sins. My uncle had an emotional affair with a woman who married young, had her two children and then decided she had missed out on fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 09:29 AM
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Luckily, however, there are lots of men to choose from, so if I accidentally was too harsh with my vetting, I still found someone. Significant anniversary coming up soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 08:31 AM
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Yes. And it's the fact that you think this way about women is what makes you an undesirable husband. Just the thought of having to pay someone to pretend to want to have sex instead of them actually wanting it is really gross. You just aren't bothered by the fact that the woman you're with is just wishing it was over? Gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 05:46 AM
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Those women sound boring. I don't know why you'd want to date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 09:53 PM
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No, this is rubbish, women don't want interesting men. Take last years tax tables and read them to her. Convince her that this is your idea of fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 07:27 AM
1

I find the notion that women are turned on by Musk to be utterly bizarre.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 08:16 AM
1

Worse, men will pretend to have those things to get you to date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 12:32 AM
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One of my brother's is much better looking than the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 12:14 AM
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These ones are amazing, hence the compliment on how natural looking they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 04:21 AM
1

Or complimenting her on the eyebrows she spend $50 on and not ‘I love natural beauty, why do women spend so much time at the beauty salon when they don’t need to’.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 10:35 PM
1

Its still works on a percentage of people only.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 08:08 AM
1

There's a county that banned advertising and sales fell 6% for the duration. Everyone has to advertise because everyone else advertises.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 03:23 AM
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Somewhat. I knit a lot and people who don't tend to gush over some stupid thing in pink that took me an hour. The heavily cabled blanket that sucked the life out of me for six months gets a 'nice'. Some people are just not qualified to give compliments and you can tell by the quality of the compliments they give. Spend three hours choosing a stylish outfit and get compliments on my hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 01:30 AM
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Sales do not work on 100% of people and if red pill worked as well as it says it does, you'd be the equivalent of a timeshare. Something that is supposed to make life easier but does the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 08:55 PM
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I mean, I've been to a time share seminar and not bought a time share. The guy was not upset. He told me he sells to 40% of people, and that covers the free tickets they give out at Vegas. A place I spent a week without putting spending any money on gambling.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 06:56 AM
0

"The Window" episode of how I Met Your Mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 09:36 PM
3

Daddy's girl does tend to have a spectrum from healthy to weird whereas Mummy's boy is an insult. A man having a good relationship with his mother is a good thing and it is phrased that way, not Mummy's boy. Apart from anything else, calling a man a boy is an insult before you add why while calling a woman a girl is less so. Daddy's Little Princess indicates a more spoiled outlook.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 09:23 PM
3

Add in Australia for countries where they abolished the draft for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 03:06 AM
0

fulfil an exhaustive list of arbitrary and absurd criteria No one is making you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 04:24 AM
5

So you don't want to stop these women from dating, you just want to complain about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 02:50 AM
1

Then don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 09:07 PM
4

What do you suggest we do about it? Society, I mean. Make men stop dating these women?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 09:05 PM
1

They probably wouldn't, which is why he's confident that he'd remain faithful. Obviously, he won't if temptation ever crosses his path.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 10:05 PM
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Possibly, as their father probably arranged the match. Despite that, they were protesting FOR the men's lives and you're shitting on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 09:08 PM
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It translates to "If I was handsome, I'd totally cheat on my wife, but I'm not so I think I will be desperate enough to be faithful, as long as no one offers. The concept of men who are nice people as well as handsome is beyond me"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 08:43 PM
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What horrible women, wanting their husbands and sons not to die in war. Specifically one that's been going on for 20 years and thus has provided no 'justice fairness or whatever was the reason for the war'.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 08:37 PM
1

Do you have a lot of dating options? If you don't they may think you're making things harder for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 08:34 PM
1

This is because males of most species don't raise the young. If your only investment is a few minutes, you don't care. Men get to be choosy because they help raise children.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 08:54 AM
2

So, then it should be better for society if only 70% of men get married instead of 95%. Really ramp up the competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 09:13 AM
0

I could introduce him to my sister...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 06:17 AM
1

I did not sleep around and thus would not date a man who had, for much the same reason. He's put a lot of effort into something I disagree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 06:16 AM
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I didn't really get from your post why, if both people contributed to, for example, buying a house, the one who is unfaithful should get less than 50% of the value. But, for the argument, how much less? A percentage, a flat amount, varies depending on how attractive the affair partner was?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 06:13 AM
2

That's a reach, Lots of women are willing to be poorer to get out of a terrible marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 03:50 AM
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If a couple get married, both work and they live together so they both benefit with lower house payments/rent, then they divorce, why would infidelity come into it? And if it did, more men cheat than women which is likely to be why it became irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 03:48 AM
2

Why would anyone respect a person who can't function at the level of a 13yo?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 09:33 PM
0

Why don't care about your wife losing respect for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 09:11 PM
2

I just did the opposite. If a woman is not being successful, she should change what she’s doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 07:13 PM
0

The ones who aren't happy with their results are the ones who have to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 06:20 AM
1

Yes to the media bit. Hollywood went for years casting Spencer Tracey as the good guy and James Dean as the bad boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 11:32 PM
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Unless they start pulling that "Americans are the Best" shit whereupon they will be mercilessly sledged.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 09:07 AM
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We buy seafood and stay in.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 08:50 AM
3

Are you now 35 hitting on 20 yo women or are you 35 hitting on 35 yo women? Both of those are very different from being a 20yo man hitting on 20yo women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 07:56 AM
3

Do they date men for that reason? It’s the male thirst for sex that makes dating so lopsided. If men were dating in a situation where that wasn’t a possibility they’d be choosier with their time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 01:38 AM
2

So if you went on a date and there wasn’t an immediate spark what would you do? Keep going on dates with the same woman or move on?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 08:48 PM
3

No but women are much less likely to want a ons.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 08:03 PM
5

Yes, the sexual attraction red pill claims is necessary is shown by women to men close to their own age. Age gap relationships are transactional.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 07:44 PM
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Try to imagine back to when dating didn't include sex. Would you be excited to date just any woman, take her on dates etc if there was no societal expectation of sex before marriage. Is breathing enough or would you be a little more picky with your time?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 07:41 PM
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My brother looks like Brad Pitt and works in sales so he has lots of stories that end with 'and then I went home with the girl who won the wet T shirt contest." I think he's doing okay. The other one is less good looking but I've met by chance at least eight of his girlfriends, I'm sure there are more.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 06:30 AM
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Given the location of the prostate, men probably orgasm from stranger rape from other men too. Does that mean they're gay? Women orgasm more frequently and more intensely from masturbation too. https://metro.co.uk/2021/08/17/women-have-more-intense-orgasms-through-masturbation-than-through-sex-15103514/ https://www.issm.info/sexual-health-qa/do-women-reach-orgasm-more-quickly-during-masturbation-or-partnered-sex
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 08:44 PM
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Most of the bad women i know are a lot smarter than the ones red pill talks about. The gold diggers are well aware of aging and are in fact the younger women who are dating older guys in an attempt to marry money. The fat ugly women i know don't get to have sex with hot guys. Occasionally one will score with an average dude because she is known for paying for the guys alcohol and drugs all night. If they're pulling the wool over anyone's eyes, it's the guys who are giving them money/having sex w…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 07:15 AM
2

When a neighbouring tribe invades and kills you, your wife and your son but kidnaps your daughter, what effect does that have on the numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 07:00 AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_European_marriage_pattern On average first marriages took place around the middle twenties for both genders, with men marrying at slightly older ages than women, and only setting up a nuclear household when they were financially stable enough to care for a household, all of this preceded by time working as servants, farmhands or apprentices. Also, a significant proportion of women married after their twenties and 20–30% of women never married
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 06:54 AM
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I don't find him attractive and apparently I also don't find heart faced men attractive then.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 12:36 AM
1

Why would you say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 07:17 PM
0

In this case, I am saying that someone generally recognised as very attractive by millions of women does nothing for me, so I guess you could hear that. In contrast, guys who are my type but not models do get a boost.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 07:17 PM
6

Not handsome but okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 09:07 AM
13

Alan Rickman, Harrison Ford, Axl Rose, Adrian Brady, Eli Roth, David Bowie.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 09:07 AM
15

That's who I'm talking about. He just didn't do anything for me at all. I like long thin faces.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 07:11 AM
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people, especially men, just argue with you. I have a type and have never had sex with a guy who does not fit my type. Every time I say something like 'I never found Leo DiCapprio attractive." I get argued with or told my standards are too high even though I don't find guys with a fat round face attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 06:56 AM
1

You think these men are good catches fur to casual conversation despite them not being attractive to women. I referenced statistics showing why people divorced. I can link you to the study once I get home.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 04:17 AM
1

You gave your anecdote. I gave mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 03:51 AM
1

These are the reasons women give for divorce. Do these women also tell their fat friends how beautiful they are? What does that tell you about how good a potential husband these guys are?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 09:24 PM
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Statistically, men cheat more, are violent more and gamble and use drugs more so there are fewer marriageable men just on those criteria. I think you are in denial about what sort of partners, both lots of people are. On both sides, you really think that 'unrealistic' is these women's only problem, and that the guys are going to be really great husbands even though no woman wants to date them?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 07:23 PM
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I agree, with the caveat that roughly the same number of men are marriage material. People who are good catches aren't struggling.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 08:21 AM
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Which men do with religion. I read some who compared horoscopes with a religion for women ie. it skips the 'women are inferior to me' part of Ambrahamic religion and thought that made sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 08:47 PM
1

Except this example clearly shows that she selected for both. Looks first, then he disqualified himself through personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 08:41 PM
2

Cleaning the toilet and all the other housework. It's very boring and there's no satisfaction there since it all needs to be done again. You don't produce anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 08:33 PM
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I enjoy office work way more than cleaning the toilet, that's true. It's not even close.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 09:38 AM
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They should get advice from an actual lawyer, not the internet. My soon to be exDIL had people on the internet telling her she could just do what she wanted and my son had no say. Three months later and the threat of having to pay both lawyers because of being non-cooperative, and guess who is not seeing her daughers for the next eight weekends to reestablish visitation, moving to 50:50 over the next few months.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 06:02 AM
1

Pretty poor. I've called security on a very drunk couple and helped the woman into a taxi before.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 12:42 AM
1

There's a study out there saying that men are 10% more attractive when they wear a white t shirt.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 12:34 AM
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Yes, but we can observe and comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 11:18 PM
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Or, you know, hang out on the relationship subs and see what some people put up with.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 10:17 PM
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Even more amusing, men long for the past where in arranged or convenience marriages with up to twelve children, where men and women could live very separate lives in the same house, they weren't lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 10:09 PM
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it's the opposite actually. We know men walk around thinking sexual thoughts about all sorts of women, we just assume that you learn to deal with it. The same way lots of people hate their boss but manage to live civilly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 09:37 AM
1

Since you ask, never.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 09:28 AM
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I agree with your central premise. At least half the complaints from men are because they have to date women instead of going on the internet and ordering women like Uber Eats or a free prostitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 07:33 PM
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Not to mention, men just lie about family court and get believed. Both my father and my brother claim to have lost in family court but neither actually went. I am the eldest of four children and was fifteen at the time of the divorce. Once I said that I was going with my mother, my father decided not to pursue custody and let the younger children also go with my mother. My brother got divorced and rarely asked to see his son. He hasn't seen him in three years. They both worked and owned a rental…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 08:49 PM
2

Yeah, that $245 a month will go to food, no problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 08:41 PM
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He means rich guys.The most physically attractive men are younger too, so although they can date younger women, those women aren't that much younger. Men just like to tell themselves that Leo DiCaprio is still physically attractive to young women and not paying them in money or connections.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 08:47 PM
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Firstly, yes, that is my point. You have told women what you are looking for so they tell you what you want to hear. Women don't make such a fuss about it, they let men brag and then tell them there's 'no chemistry. Secondly, the average for women is between 4-7, so you are just mindlessly repeating a misogynistic joke with no basis in fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 07:44 PM
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Yes. Don't tell men what your deal breakers are. They'll just lie to make it seem like they are a suitable date.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 10:08 AM
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It's a really weird argument. Who gives up something they enjoy? I still eat chocolate all these years later.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 09:58 AM
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That depends on the woman. I am not into sports but I like car guys. I married a guy who played cricket and has a physical job rather than gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 08:01 PM
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Don't forget, Chad just naturally looks that way, he certainly doesn't play sport or go to the gym. Simultaneously, it's unreasonable for red pillers to lose weight and get fit, that's a mammoth undertaking that takes years and costs thousands of dollars.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 04:04 AM
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Usually the opposite gets argued here. As an example of how women have everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 04:45 AM
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Also, I meet guys so I'd have to basically be in a small town and get no interest from men for several years to be convinced of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 10:51 PM
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I love children and always wanted them. So it would definitely be the old guy. I don't know about marrying him before 25 though. I'd have to be convinced that there was no alternative first.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 09:45 PM
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And when women raise children with love so those children grow up to love women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 02:53 AM
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They are in the historical record. 25% of women in the Victorian era had their first baby less than nine months after the wedding.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 06:58 AM
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Presumably you know who you had sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 06:23 AM
1

And if you suspect that you are the father, you can apply to be tested and get your rights reinstated. They don't punish the mother for abandonment to encourage them not to kill the baby but they do attempt reunification of the child with it's parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 05:19 AM
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You can put yourself down as her sexual partner in case she is pregnant and wants to adopt the baby out.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 04:28 AM
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Hence the putative fathers registry.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 04:18 AM
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You could try being involved and keeping up to date with news. You could put yourself on the putative fathers registry and they can then not adopt the baby out. You could ring the number on the screen and say that your ex was due around now and that you'd be interested in finding out if it's your kid. All of these do require some effort from you, but you do have rights. Since you are not physically attached to the baby, you will have to legally attach yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 03:36 AM
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They always advertise them on TV begging for someone to come forward. Wouldn’t you notice your own baby missing?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 02:09 AM
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He can, however, upon hearing about the baby on the news, go and collect said baby and take custody and ask for child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 10:13 PM
1

Jack and the Beanstalk, Aladdin, Puss In Boots. Quite a lot of fairytales have the male protagonist, a lowly third son, marry a rich beautiful princess instead of earning money.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 09:53 PM
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Pretty much. You want to land between stingy and spendthrift Rude and doormat Loner and 'can't be lone ever'. Obsessive and 'no follow through'. There's a reason well rounded is a compliment.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 07:45 PM
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And thus you encapsulate the thread. Women are "I don't want casual sex, I want marriage." Guys are "Look at all the casual sex you could be having, here's a way to attract even more."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 07:28 PM
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I have distinct 'type'. Guys who are attractive but fall outside that type I don't feel attraction towards although I can see that other women would find them attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 07:36 PM
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I just said I wouldn't date overweight men on another thread and have downvotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 07:27 PM
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I would not choose them even if there were good options.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 10:29 AM
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Yes, but guys I'm not attracted to aren't options, no matter how much they might like to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 10:05 AM
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I don't find fat guys attractive so 100 fat guys in my inbox are just wasting my time. They are not options. *Theoretical, I'm married and have kids already.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 09:43 AM
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If you read the studies they say that women who put out more signals get more responses even to the point where a plainer woman will have more success than a pretty one if she puts out more signals. Yes. Nothing much stops bold guys, we still have to get rid of them. But we can be attracting the guys we want at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 05:20 AM
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Yes, it references the article I was talking about, which is what I said,
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 05:18 AM
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I literally quoted the article.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 04:37 AM
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Both. Rejection is not fun for anyone, so starting slow and only continuing when encouraged means the rejection, is sooner, softer and politer whoever it comes from.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 04:36 AM
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In the attention (soliciting interest) and recognition (acknowledging interest) phase of courtship (see Givens, 1978), the initial moves of making nonverbal contact are performed more frequently by females than by males.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 04:35 AM
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Observational and interview studies indicate that solicitation in courtship interactions is mainly done (1) by the female and (2) through nonverbal messages.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 04:34 AM
1

It avoids the awkward situation, you’re still across the room.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 04:26 AM
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Women have the advantage of easy casual sex BECAUSE they want it so much less than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 02:09 AM
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A cheap revealing dress will get you some casual sex but if a woman is after a ltr, it won't help and most of those matches will be useless or worse than useless.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 02:07 AM
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https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1090513804000601 Here's one which seems to reference the research I was talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:36 AM
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I did not say it prevents rejection, it reduces the interaction to a smaller, more polite one at an earlier stage.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:28 AM
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My sister is just a bitch and it always cracks me up that red pill men think she should be encouraged to marry one of them. Talk about a self own. Otherwise, I don't know many. Any party girls I know either married or are single mothers. They got the parts of life that were important to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 07:40 PM
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No, I just know how to be polite and not pushy. We re talking about a guy you don't know. You see him and think he's attractive and would like to get to know him but you're not emotionally invested yet, as you don't know him. So you're not upset if he rejects you. It's a metaphorical dance. Step A. you initiate eye contact, he reciprocates. Step B, you smile and he reciprocates, Step C, repeat the above a few times so you know that it's not just a coincidence and he's not smiling at the person b…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 07:34 PM
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No man has had his reputations ruined by walking up to a girl and introducing themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 07:18 PM
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Yes, I am literally talking about the introduction to someone you don't know here. It's very possible to start talking to them and lose interest in them s a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 07:17 PM
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No, it's still a rejection, it's politer and comes sooner, and no, I don't really want the guy, it's step 1 in the whole process. When did I say I accept mediocre attention? This is actually a way to attract the guys you want, it's a dacne and you want someone who is a good dancer.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 09:30 AM
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Yes, but if he has a girlfriend, I've interrupted his night when I could have left him alone. He's not interested and the earlier you find that out, the better for both people. Apparently 50-70% of interactions are actually initiated by women but there are boorish men who just wander round interrupting women who are flirting with someone else. These are usually the guys women complain about. You've been eyeing up a guy for a good fifteen minutes and just as it seems to be getting going, some guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 05:44 AM
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No, it's polite and subtle. It's much nicer than some drunk guy you don't know interrupting your fun night out to ask you out, get pouty when you say no, demand an explanation and then try to convince you that your reason isn't good enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 05:32 AM
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You use this strategy with people you don't know well so it's low investment. If he doesn't react he's either not interested in you specifically, not interested because he's gay or in a relationship, who knows? But you don't really care. You could try escalating a little but it's usually easier to just try a different guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 04:27 AM
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Some women do approach and others are happy with the results they receive. It's only the unhappy ones who have incentive to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 04:13 AM
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It is available to low income men. You present your case to a solicitor and if it is reasonable then your legals are free. My son is involved in a dispute with his ex now. She thinks she will receive Legal Aid because she is low income but his solicitor (who works for Legal Aid) said what he is asking for is very reasonable so Legal Aid will not waste money for a case which should be solved in mediation. They would take his case if he did not earn so much money. It's all gender neutral in Austra…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 04:06 AM
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Why do we need to if what we're doing works? She indicates interest, he either responds or ignores her. She can escalate or move onto someone else. Women understand that turning someone down is an awkward interaction that people don't enjoy even if the reason is that they are gay, in a relationship, not into that person in particular or about to move overseas. This avoids that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 04:02 AM
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Eye contact, smiling, non-verbal flirting. Diss it all you want, it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 04:00 AM
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There are legal recourses to get yourself on the birth certificate.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 09:58 PM
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Men on this sub never do. Yet it's obvious enough for research scientists to observe and happens frequently. It's not really plausible deniability, she wants it to happen, it's subtle and allows the guy to reject her without an awkward scene which ruins everyone's night.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 09:14 PM
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"I take care of my kids." You're supposed to, you dumb motherfucker! What are you talking about? What are you bragging about? What kind of ignorant shit is that? "I ain't never been to jail!" What do you want, a cookie?! You're not supposed to go to jail, you low-expectation-having motherfucker!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 09:10 PM
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In Australia, Legal Aid is available.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 09:09 PM
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Keep up. She needs the father's permission these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 09:08 PM
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Reearchers sat in bars and watched and women do initiate interactions with men 50-70% of the time. They don't walk up and ask them out, but they do make eye contact and smile so the guy comes over. Apparently this is invisible to men on this sub but it does happen. My husband outright says that he wouldn't have asked me out if I hadn't made it clear the answer would be yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 08:42 PM
1

So, your share of the housework could be folding clothing while sitting down instead if washing the dishes while standing at the sink. Not nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 08:40 PM
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And for men who only work 40 hours at an office job? Are they still entitled to not wash the dishes because other men work on oil rigs?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 08:38 PM
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My grandparents married during WW2, when there was a surplus of women. My not very pretty grandmother was from a wealthy family and married a soldier who lost his job at the end of the war. Her money bought a business and my grandfather struggled with alcoholism the rest of his life including burning their house down once while drunk. They had three daughters and a son. My grandmother knew her duty but they never had sex once my uncle was born in the 50s. My grandfather died in 1886 and apparent…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 08:24 PM
0

Not alpha enough is fairly vague but could easily include 'you have to actually ask women out', 'you're such a Mumma's boy' and 'don't be such a people pleaser' to name a few. Their friends can clearly see why they struggle, as I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 08:06 PM
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I don''t know anyone who struggles in dating where you can't look at them and clearly see why.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 06:18 AM
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Because I know the facts. He didn't lose custody in court, he's just a deadbeat with his time and hasn't seen his son in three years. He doesn't owe child support, she makes more than him. He just likes to say that she took half his stuff and he lost in court for sympathy or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 07:45 PM
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I have reduced contact with my brother because he went through a period of posting red pill crap and now has a mail order girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 07:43 PM
1

Or more commonly, disabled or gay. A lot of parents want "Mini-me" in order to dole out the love.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 08:23 AM
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Then guys here should be having no trouble.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 07:15 PM
11

Stop whining about being single then. You shouldn't feel sad about it. See: no one likes having their feelings invalidated.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 06:16 AM
1

Yoga pants are the most comfortable clothing in the world. I will not listen to criticism against them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 07:30 PM
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Could have, but I'd say my rate was in the vicinity of 5% as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 07:52 PM
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I always just assumed that men found me sexually attractive. I assumed that part of their growing up was learning to deal with it. Even if you like every young woman you see, you're only supposed to date one at a time and only if they said yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 07:45 PM
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I’ve just come to realize men love in an unconditional idealized way This seems to contradict everything above it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 05:56 AM
1

And an equal number of women. Some of whom are choosing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 07:53 PM
1

Yes, because women get on Tinder and see all the guys looking for casual and leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 07:33 PM
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I can pay a servant, same as you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 09:47 AM
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I'd rather just clean up after myself instead of a lazy slacker who patronises me. Or marry an adult man who can care for himself instead of a man child.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 09:34 AM
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You are. All your examples are her seeing housework that needs to be done and judging by your posts, you're sure as shit not going to wield a toilet brush. It's too feminine for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 09:24 AM
3

A career as opposed to cleaning toilets and supplying blowjobs?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 08:35 AM
0

IIRC, at least half of those men were after casual or 'still figuring things out' rather than looking for long term. No use to a woman who wants a ltr.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 08:27 AM
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We just have the ones which are tall and bend over. Very utilitarian. Just pulling over on the side of the road, not necessarily in a sketchy neighbourhood sounds low effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 07:31 PM
1

And most men also consider the money to be theirs not Joint funds. Leave her.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 07:15 PM
1

Has your wife never worked?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 11:40 AM
1

So they’re not stopping you, you just don’t want to lose access to half the marital assets?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 10:10 AM
1

The government is preventing you from divorcing?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 09:23 AM
5

I didn’t know Donald and Elon were women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 12:01 AM
3

That’s a shorter fancier streetlight than we have here.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 08:28 PM
3

Streetlights are romantic?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 08:17 PM
4

Professionally successful and conservative are opposites.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 08:12 PM
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Your one anecdote certainly proves no woman has ever been abused.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 06:55 AM
0

And is anyone stopping you from divorcing her? Plenty of women cook and clean, if you are not happy, leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 06:53 AM
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I'd like to see your figures on that. But yes, if your wife ceases to enhance your life you are allowed to divorce her.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 06:20 AM
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Look at what happens when men lose their jobs. If the only thing you are contributing to a relationship is money, then you'd better not stop contributing that. Lots of men are a net negative to housework and emotional life.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 05:00 AM
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I just don't believe that. Men cheat more, are violent more, gamble and use drugs more. There are therefore more marriageable women than men. Women as a group can't be spoiled for choice, although obviously some women can.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 04:58 AM
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Or men really putting in a lot of effort to cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 04:55 AM
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It's been practiced for years. My mother never dated again after her divorce. She told people who asked that she was done with men, but didn't make a big deal of it otherwise. Most women I know in crap first marriages just never bothered again. And a lot I know who were single mothers too. Once they had all the kids they wanted, that was it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 03:54 AM
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I'm not the one who thinks it's a problem. People can do what they want. If they end up single, okay then.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 07:48 AM
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I can pay for a man's contribution at a sperm bank and it will cost me significantly less than a surrogate would, for good reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 05:36 AM
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You're placing no value on having or raising children.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 05:34 AM
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Being trad wife generally involves notion that they love you Does it really. Say you went to a small school where there were 30 of each gender in the grade. What happened to those who didn't fall in love or get with their first choice? The first fifteen couples, they're probably fine. A few of the girls could marry a guy a bit older. The final twenty, did they not just pick someone rather than stay single?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 05:31 AM
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It is. He thinks they should choose differently to how they are choosing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 05:23 AM
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Well, they're divorced...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 04:44 AM
1

Problems begin when ordinary, normal women don’t want ordinary, normal men, and that’s terrible. I do wih guys who are well out of my league, especially older guys, would stop hitting on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 07:35 PM
4

My Dad outright admits that the main reason he asked my mother out was that she was a hot blonde.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 03:10 AM
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Men cheat more, so no fault divorce advantages them more. Same with domestic violence, gambling and drug use.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 06:28 AM
2

Only men without a working hand. They have a legitimate need.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 06:26 AM
2

I want a robot wife to do my housework.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 06:22 AM
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What you aren't considering is the mortality rate. One of my great uncles died on the Lusitania, before he had kids. His brother in WW1 and another brother of kidney disease. Okay, one of those was only 16 which is why I added that it depended on how you define 'man'. Of six brothers, only two married and had kids and one married at a later age and had no kids. His wife was a widow with children but already 40 so I don't know whether he was able to father children or not. This was not unusual in…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 01:43 AM
1

Can you comprehend writing. I'm criticising the claim that 80% of women had children, not that twice as many women as men did. Human population was steady for a long time and climbed slowly after that. If a couple had ten daughters, I doubt eight of them successfully reproduced.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 12:53 AM
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Yes, it's the same as "All women have 5-10 orbiters". They mean attractive girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 09:24 PM
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Attractive women have fewer partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 09:18 PM
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It actually says that twice as many women reproduced as men. Considering the mortality rates, and depending on how you are counting 'men' it's probably more like 30/15.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 10:32 AM
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Yes, apparently women are much better at getting themselves off than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 07:41 PM
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I'd literally have to read the little word on the side of the car to know it was a Bugatti. My ILs bought a Mercedes and damn does it look just like a Rav4 to me. I thought it would look ...sportier.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 07:36 PM
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There's a difference between women who want to be childfree and those who end up childless. I imagine that one group is a lot happier than the other. Similarly, at least 50% of women are married at 30, so they aren't included in this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 07:29 PM
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And some of us never dated older guys but were certainly hit on by them repeatedly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 08:46 PM
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https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3706999/
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 01:55 AM
1

You keep making things up. Where did the free weed come from? Where did the six months come from? People usually just meet someone, go on a few dates to see if they are compatible, don't date anyone else during this stage and then break up due to incompatibility. Then they are single again. Apparently, every guy who asked them out during this stage is now deeply upset with her. I don't care really, usually I never saw those guys again, but I don't think the woman has done anything wrong here. Sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 02:46 AM
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Or, I turned you down for a guy I have only been on a few dates with and he seems nice. Every other guy on this sub would be screaming hypergamy if I quite seeing a nice seeming guy because I thought you were an upgrade.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 02:12 AM
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Yes, but I'm wondering if you do. You can date seriously but it takes a while before the relationship gets serious. You treat it seriously, as in you don't date others but you would call a break up after 3-10 dates the end of a serious relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 01:42 AM
1

You think we should get married as our fourth date?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 01:19 AM
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Not necessarily. But offers of groping or casual sex, those come without prompting.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 07:35 PM
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I mean, I never did, but there's a large area where you have started dating a guy and shouldn't be accepting dates from other men, until you two break up, where you are dating seriously but the relationship itself isn't serious. Pretty much from the first date until that fourth month you mentioned when you break up.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 07:21 PM
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Now you know what men look like to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 10:19 AM
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For that to be true, there's have to be equal numbers of men and women who ft the criteria. Otherwise the spare women who are beautiful and fairly emotionally stable can't match up. Or vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 07:08 AM
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I admire your ability to predict relationship development. If I had been going out with a guy for a month I would not accept a date with another guy. However it's hardly a heinous situation for him to break up with me, move, do something that made me realise he was not the one etc. Or he could cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 12:40 AM
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let her see your personality This was part of the problem. The actual date wasn't bad but he had made such a bad impression before then that I couldn't get over it. My car had broken down which is why I was walking home. Another guy that I had met recently saw me walking and pulled over and offered me a ride home with my groceries. This guy followed em home and sat in his car for five minutes then came and knocked on me door to ask me out. I had met him my first day at work but he was one of abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:28 PM
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I was thinking a more serious relationship, but even a fairly casual one, it doesn't really look good for her to accept a date with someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:23 PM
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And how would the red pill solve this situation? This is clearly a case for feminism and blue pill. I should have stood up for myself, he should learn to read the room.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 04:38 AM
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I don't see that as petty. Although I would exempt her if she was not single when you asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 04:00 AM
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As I said, I got better. Nowadays I'd tell him he's being a weirdo.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 12:56 AM
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Agreed to go out with him on the first date he suggested.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 07:26 PM
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I got much better at it very quickly. I was gobsmacked that he kept persisting after three rejections.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 07:25 PM
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Who pretended. I met him once during a tour and he saw me walking home the next day and followed me and asked me out. "Unfortunately", I had a work thing on Saturday, followed by a friend thing the following Saturday and I had to see my mother the Saturday after that. I did agree to a fate the fourth Saturday but my roomie and I discussed it and I acquired a fake boyfriend by then.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 07:25 PM
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And no settling, that's bad too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 05:00 AM
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Yes please. In my younger days, when I was less assertive, this meant no, but the guy just kept suggesting more dates and I could no longer think of a plausible excuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 04:58 AM
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Other people can do what they want consensually. That doesn't mean that I have to pick them for a romantic relationship. I've never dated a musician either but I don't have any problem with them existing, or with purchasing their music.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 11:57 PM
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So is yours, but is it really that hard to picture him swanning around proudly while other men envy him?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 08:53 PM
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My husband mustn't love me then. He's always tugged my neckline lower and showed me off.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 08:35 PM
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Now I can tell you have never been to court. You don't just hand evidence to the judge. Your lawyer charges you to see the evidence, cross examine you, tell the judge in court and defend it from the opposition. Is the image dated, has it been interfered with, does it actually prove cheating or just a kiss/handhold, was it taken after you two split up, does your ex claimed that you said you wanted an open marriage just to produce this evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 07:10 AM
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Yes, you have the money to spend over $100,000 on a divorce, especially if you receive more of the assets. Most people are going to spend more on the lawyer than they save with half their house equity.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 10:39 PM
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My husband and I went to court for three days over custody of his daughter. It cost $80,000 and that was back in the 90s. For most people, having to pay a private detective and a lawyer to prove the infidelity is going to take most of their assets, punishing both parties. Which is, in fact, one of the reasons people stayed married before no fault divorce. They couldn't afford to divorce. Rich people might care.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 09:14 PM
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Which, although it doesn't sound like much, does account for a 20% difference. If women who are 28 and 29 are dating men who are 30 and 31, then that's 20% of women in their twenties.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 09:09 PM
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And still, it looks like 25% of scandinavian men will be childless. So much for dating younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 02:04 AM
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Not in the last few years. The most recent data I have seen from Scandinavia said hes uncommon.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 09:44 PM
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Even men realise that if they want to be an active, involved Dad, that they need to get started before they are too old.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 09:02 PM
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Were they first time fathers? Or id they already have kids? Because there's a difference. Women are suspicious about men who claim to want kids but are 40 and childless. A divorced Dad is statistically a much more chosen prospect.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 09:01 PM
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Statistically, he's unusual.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 08:59 PM
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I'd be for this as long as it was equal. With adoptions there is a system in place where a replacement parent is found and vetted for suitability and they sign paperwork where they agree to care for the child as a parent. Men should be able to locate a suitable man who wants to be a father to their child, get him vetted and allow him to take over their role with visitation and child support. Good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 10:26 PM
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Yes, it is. The baby is entitled to being supported by the people whose dna made regardless of how that happened. As is traditional. Millions of women have raised rape babies against their will.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 08:36 AM
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Yes, my husband's first marriage ended in divorce because she cheated. Guess who cheated on her second husband and who has been happily married for over twenty years.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 04:14 AM
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This always amazes me. Say it's true and you are a completely selfish, non- child loving person. Why do they want you to have a kid or be around theirs?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 06:41 AM
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Better yet, he's had a history of giving tons of money to female webstreamers I don't date morons.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 06:38 AM
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Or, you know, someone who is not single. At least OLD sorts out the singles and cheaters for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 06:36 AM
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The word IF is doing a lot of heavy lifting.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 06:36 AM
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A combination, I think. No one had childfree events because everyone had kids. Friends lived closer. It was more socially acceptable to put your kids to bed and visit with the neighbours without hiring an actual babysitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 02:22 AM
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My husband and I are very similar and from what I read, the more similar people are, the better their marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 01:35 AM
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Some women do. I never have.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 06:03 AM
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Apparently it's a problem up to 40% of guys have.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 05:32 AM
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Regardless, the point stands. More than one guy in a social group/school/town has a romantic partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 07:28 PM
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I was going to go for married but red pillers routinely say they don’t care about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 09:54 AM
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And we all know that only one man in a town is not a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 09:32 AM
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That's not who we're talking about. You can be better than the other guys easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 07:33 AM
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You should get in while so many men are fat. Competition has never been lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 07:19 AM
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The point is no man suddenly wants to get married to a 28 - 32 year old woman out of no where They don't. They've usually been dating 2-5 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 07:40 PM
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https://nextluxury.com/mens-lifestyle-advice/at-what-age-do-men-generally-want-to-settle-down/
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 07:39 PM
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https://nextluxury.com/mens-lifestyle-advice/at-what-age-do-men-generally-want-to-settle-down/
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 07:39 PM
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https://nextluxury.com/mens-lifestyle-advice/at-what-age-do-men-generally-want-to-settle-down/
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 07:38 PM
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Breastfeeding absolutely kills my libido. It's gone until my milk dries up.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 06:30 AM
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Why do you think the marriage age is later in the u.s? This one isn't true. Men determine the age of commitment in most cases. 2-3 years after their highest educational achievement.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 06:27 AM
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More, like, act like an adult and not like a whiny child. A lot of guys here say that men should be leaders then go on to describe behaviour that sounds like a toddler being catered to by his mummy. Or describe this big epiphany about how they became more masculine and reliant on women by leading ie. doing their own laundry.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 09:30 PM
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I have a type and he fits it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 09:25 PM
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I'm a scientist and my husband is a mechanic who reads. They my not be common but we exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 12:44 AM
1

And Trump is generally considered trashy and classless.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 12:38 AM
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I've seen a study that counted how many visitors people have in a month.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 10:25 PM
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en masse.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 10:22 PM
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This applies for some people not all. We were super stoked when my cousin separated from her loser husband a few years ago. Disappointingly, she turned up with him at a family function, all over him and flashing a new ring he bought her like she was proud of it. We all got drunk and avoided talking to him. I agree, however, there are people who still look down on divorced people and proudly show off their horrible marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 10:21 PM
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Dilation and Curettage and Suction Aspiration are the surgical techniques which can be used for abortions. They can be used for other reasons as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 09:26 AM
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Mostly they were guys at Uni but not ones that I really felt a spark from. The first few months were okay with just blah dates but after that they started getting worse. Possibly gossip got around and people thought I was having sex with all these guys. Possibly I was not being excited about dating anymore. In the end I gave up and said no to a family friend who asked me out and it was very awkward. I'm fairly sure he was autistic, he couldn't stop saying the brand of the car that was passing as…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 03:56 AM
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I actually did this. I heard a guy complaining about how hard it is to ask women out and decided that for a year whenever I was single, I would accept if a guy asked me out. I lasted nine months and it was the worst year of my dating life. Maybe getting to know guys works for some women but not me. I also got married to my husband on the first anniversary of meeting and we have been married for over 20 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 02:10 AM
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And in this case, quite a number of guy felt free to weigh in on the guys choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 01:59 AM
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Some guys do. A hot topic my first year at Uni was one of the guys having sex with an ugly girl. I never saw the girl in question but guys were giving him shit for weeks and talking about the situation when he wasn't there.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 10:01 PM
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Lots of these women come from abusive homes so their intuition is working fine. It's just badly calibrated.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 08:31 AM
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Gradually build up a rapport with a woman within the spaces that you navigate in. This is all perfectly okay, and nobody will ever have a. problem with it as long as it’s not sexualized until much further down the line. People meet like this all the time at my gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 08:22 AM
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So in addition to the above, they have to be attractive and round your age?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 09:07 PM
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A couple from a similar socioeconomic group get married, throughout the marriage, the wife works more, see post in this very subreddit. This is great for the husband whose health is better. He cheats and they split the marital assets, which is all likelihood, she paid half of, as she also worked, not many SAHM these days. So, very unlikely to get spousal support. Men who ask for custody get it, so he probably pays a token amount of child support $345 a month or something, which no doubt contribu…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 10:37 AM
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It's not affected by whether he cheats or not. It's no fault divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 08:46 AM
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The wife can have an affair or affairs, and will not face any repercussions I've got news for you. So can a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 06:53 AM
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You will be happy to know that I have two sons and when my circumcised husband wanted to get them circumcised, I told him no.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 06:38 AM
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No looks or age qualifications?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 06:10 AM
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puffy = fat. Hrithik has a rectangular block like face, deep set eyes and Bradley has a nicely shaped chin, lovely eyes and smaller ears.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 09:03 AM
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You take that back. Bradley Cooper ten years ago was gorgeous. Never heard of Hrthik Roshan but I googled him, he's low ofr an actor and he has big ears and a puffy face.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 07:35 AM
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Since you mention it, I am married and do not have a prenup.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 08:28 PM
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There’s a difference between saying “I want to use a condom so I won’t get pregnant’ and “I want to use a condom in case you picked up an STD on your last business trip.”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 06:58 AM
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Off topic. There are plenty of rape cases where dna helps the case, even if it's not 100% proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 10:23 PM
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He's had a vasectomy. But if he hadn't then I'm sure a "My birth control isn't working at the moment, we'll have to use a condom" would suffice.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 09:35 PM
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It would help if she was so intoxicacted she doesn't know who raped her.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 09:34 PM
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A 40 yo with hair looks younger than a bald 40yo.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 08:06 AM
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So, test men's dna against all children and against all rape kits.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 08:03 AM
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And their guilt. Which shouldn't worry you if you're not guilty. I'm not accusing you of being a rapist. We're just testing to see if you are one.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 08:02 AM
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I do think they make a guy look ten years older instantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 07:57 AM
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You are happy to test all women to detect the 1% who commit paternity fraud but not test men to detect the 5% who are repeat rapists?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 07:14 AM
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Yes. If I asked my husband to use one he would be rightfully offended. A ons, not so much. Same for the dna test. Ask your ons all you want, it’s your wife who will be offended.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 06:59 AM
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And you’re suggesting it to catch cheaters. Why not dna test all men to catch rapists. Five times greater return for society.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 06:56 AM
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That's just men accusing all women of cheating instead of you accusing your wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 06:32 AM
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Girls walk at 11 months on average, and boys at 13. Giving an average of 12. All the way through until puberty, which girls start two years before boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 06:31 AM
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I don't hide it actually. I'm an attractive woman, why would you think for a minute that i would not eventually end up with an attractive partner I don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 08:22 PM
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Less deception and more a social nicety that everyone understands. "How are you?" "I'm fine."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 08:21 PM
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No, I lost my list of studies when my computer crashed but there was one that says most people understand exactly what women say. It's just the neurodivergant who need it spelled out for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 11:30 AM
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It's because most people realise this without being told.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 08:39 AM
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Depends how strict your definition is. I've had three and never had an actual accident. However my days of sleeping for twelve hours are gone. After eight, I have to wake up and pee.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 12:16 AM
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Non-verbal communication? I was just stating a fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 08:24 PM
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They are today. Many people lived a days walk from others and couldn't afford the time off in past times.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 08:24 PM
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I mean, I like serial killing At first, i thought you had just phrased your love of true crime documentaries badly. then i kept reading.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 08:55 AM
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My husband loves museums. Last holiday he checked twice that he wasn't taking me to too many museums but I assured him he wasn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 08:54 AM
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Apparently people age quite quickly at 44 and 60.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 08:04 AM
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The research I've seen is that people are attracted to people like themselves, so I assume that most people resemble their parents somewhat. Enough to be statistically significant.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 07:52 AM
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In your opinion, where do the 30% of men under 30 who are single rank? Highly desirable men who want to be single? Scattered randomly through the ranks? Or the least desirable?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 07:44 AM
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You lifted your looks to a higher level. I'm not saying that doesn't work. I'm saying that two people who are 5/10 but one is funny and socially well calibrated and the other is a weird shut in, aren't a match.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 07:39 AM
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But being in an isolated farmhouse with a wife and six kids where you go to town four times a year would be fine?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 04:46 AM
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There's a middle ground too. My grandmother (a bitch) had children because that's what you did in those days. She raised them okay, blatantly favouring her only son but never really loved them. Her youngest daughter, a much nicer woman, also had four children but confessed to me once that she didn't really like young children but was bonding with them much more now that they were teenagers. It's only really important to evolution that the children are raised to adulthood. Of my four cousins from…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 10:08 PM
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If a woman is getting interest from ten men a day and she is interested in at least some of those men, she doesn't need to reject them and seek out other men who haven't approached her. The only women who need to consider it are women who aren't interested in any man who approaches them, or one who is struck from afar by a specific guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 09:43 PM
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Read the title of this thread for that. You have to match in looks AND other factors like social skills and personality. But the middle sentence basically says all those people are dating their looksmatch although I would, of course, accept that some of the programmers aren't that bad, they're socially bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 09:23 PM
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It's a pretty well known fact. I learnt it in high school.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 09:21 AM
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No, no, because now every woman has friendzoned thousands of men and is thus, evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 11:55 PM
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https://journals.lww.com/thehearingjournal/fulltext/2016/05000/the_art_of_nonverbal_communication_in_practice.5.aspx First google result. It's pretty well known and taught in school.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 11:53 PM
1

So above average looking guys have above average looking girlfriends?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 11:38 PM
1

Isn't it 70% of communication is non-verbal?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 11:21 PM
2

Male feminists are far more likely to be predators Compared to who? Men who legalise marital rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 09:19 AM
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And you know this how?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 08:51 PM
1

Then he should be happy to have someone interested if it's that bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 09:17 AM
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The men who were prepared to be rapists. The others had to contend with dead bedroom as birth control or due to lack of interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 06:35 AM
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And if I reference a friend whose income is 150% of her husband's but she's not a celebrity, you'll accept that?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 02:49 AM
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You've eliminated celebrities as an example and we can't show you proof of non-celebrities so how are going to argue? Jeremy Meeks married an heiress.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 02:35 AM
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From the other side, I've been asked out hundreds of times. At least 90% of the time, I was in a relationship, so I said no, regardless of whether I might have liked the guy or not. If you're going to ask out women randomly, your odds are going to be low.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 08:09 AM
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It's insurance. these things used to be free or close to. Then 911 happened* and the insurance tripled. I've been involved in volunteer organisations for years. *Whether this caused it or not, that's the excuse they used. We're in Australia but the companies have American branches.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 07:18 AM
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small hands That's an unusual one.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 08:46 AM
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There was a study in the Science reddit recently that said cheating was due to the character of the cheater rather than external factors, so yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 08:43 AM
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Everyone can just do what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 05:46 AM
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Fair, in the sense that both want each other equally. Nature gave women the unfair part of reproduction and men ended up with the higher libido.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 05:10 AM
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If you want dating to be fair, men must make themselves more desirable as partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 10:50 PM
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If women are more desired then improving makes the dating scene worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 09:32 PM
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In that case, I assure you. None of them demonstrated charisma or intelligence. One did promise me a ride in Daddy’s yacht. Still no date.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 09:22 PM
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Yes, and in that case, no one wants to hear them complain. But red pills insistence that no matter his much men improve women only choose the top is amusing when men. As a group are not really improving, they’re getting worse. So how would you know. See also, the average man is fat so women should rate fat men 5/10. No.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 09:19 PM
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Looks is a big part of it. But good luck finding a guy who thinks a non hot girl is desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 09:16 PM
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There work is even worse, I believe. According to an article I once read, after their 8 hours work, they have an eight hour shift of volunteering for the country. They don't have time to raise kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 08:44 PM
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Plus you had no choice. I know several older women with no maternal instinct at all who had four kids. My grandmother largely ignored her daughters in favour of her son and banned sex after my uncle was conceived.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 08:41 PM
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No, but it's one of them. And the question was whether men were hitting on women more attractive than them instead of their looksmatch.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 08:32 PM
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You have no proof of that and it's amusing when you say that during a time when so many men are fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 08:29 PM
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Or men could up their game.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 10:33 AM
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Yeah, so a 6/10 guy who thinks he is an 8/10, then rates the 8/10 girl as 10/10 but still hits on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 07:18 AM
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That’s their decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 06:43 AM
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No, but every person can decide yes or no to dating another person. It’s their judgement as to whether the relationship is worth it to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 06:32 AM
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Judging attractiveness: Biases due to raters' own attractiveness and intelligence "It is notable that whereas only 2 males gave themselves the lowest self-perceived attractiveness rating on the scale, 14 females rated themselves that low (see Figures 2 and 3). These findings are consistent with past studies that report that men tend to overestimate their attractiveness"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 03:29 AM
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It's the one that counts. Men can say they are worth it all they want, they can't convince a woman that they are, then they stay single.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 03:24 AM
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That's your judgement. Women make their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 11:23 PM
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If a guy hits on me at a nightclub, how else am I judging him?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 11:23 PM
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There's a lot of costs to marriage for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 11:10 PM
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You've really never seen fat or ugly guys hit on hot girls?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 11:10 PM
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Women are much better at judging men's attractiveness than men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 11:08 PM
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Most women take time off when they have a baby and it's reflected in their lifetime earnings. The care is counted if they send the baby to daycare but if they stay home, that care vanishes into statistics. It's also more common the more children you have. One child, it works to send them to daycare, two or more and you're going backwards unless you have the type of career where it's necessary not to take too much time off and it's worth the financial hit to leave them in daycare.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 10:30 PM
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Perhaps women should be paid and taxed for childcare that they currently do for free?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 10:18 PM
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Then why does red pill complain about orbiters? The only guy I know who is like that in real life is a fat guy in his thirties who is at the beck and call of a smoking hot single mother in her 20s who is well out of his league.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 10:08 PM
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So women are only going to marry if the overall total in in the positive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 10:06 PM
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I don't understand, except that you think there are more marriageable men but didn't supply a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 10:04 PM
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These were the reasons women gave for divorce, so not for long.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 10:03 PM
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And how many of them do succeed?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 10:03 PM
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Yes it does. There's an accident and you both want an abortion so you'd be fine. But no, it's illegal, so now you're both stuck. I've seen stats that said there were 100,000 fewer abortions in one state. How many of those do you think were men who wanted the baby when the mother didn't vs men who didn't want the baby and the mother didn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 10:02 PM
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No dude, I've been hit on by guys with no chance whatsoever. It's the guys who lack self awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 10:00 PM
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More men are in that position if neither parent wanted the child.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 11:19 AM
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Gen X, so 40s. My brothers are 5'6 and 5'8 although, admittedly, one is very good looking. Both of my sons are in relationships, as are my nieces (one is married) and my nephew.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 10:47 AM
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God, I pity the guy that ends up with my sister. Hopefully there's some sort of matching system rather than random placement.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 10:45 AM
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Yet, statistically, they take more.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 10:42 AM
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Some of them definitely are.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 10:40 AM
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LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 10:35 AM
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Lots of women want a good, marriageable man and I wouldn't know about guys who are 6' tall because no one in my family are that tall and none of them have the woe is me attitude so prevalent on this board. Most of my friends/friend's husbands aren't that tall either. They all have active social lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 10:15 AM
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The fathers of these pregnancies probably aren't happy either. I'd put my money on a lot more men wanting the abortion to take place than wanting a pregnancy that the woman doesn't want.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 10:07 AM
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https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17879168/ Mostly people match up, and for good reason, they end up happier.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 10:04 AM
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Research says they don't want to. Isn't red pill against being the one settled for?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 08:59 AM
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Society has certainly improved since women got the vote. Still room to move however.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 08:16 AM
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No, you mentioned men building society and my argument was that we are still trying to improve the crappy society that men built and I specifically used socialised healthcare and lack of people starving as my examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 08:12 AM
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Socialised medicine benefits old and sick people a lot more than it benefits me. I can afford to pay my way.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 06:50 AM
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And we're trying to move to a better system, where we take care of people even if there is no benefit to us. Socialised healthcare. No people starving. A world where everyone has value.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 06:42 AM
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Men have been way more effective at that. Yes, but that doesn't make it an admirable trait. Look at history.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 06:38 AM
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What strawman? Do you think transmen are the same as women? Or men? Because you are comparing women (?magically) living men's lives to transmen transitioning. Yes, women cope, and endure and have resilience.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 06:27 AM
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Sympathetically, people with gender dysphoria are not average and are starting out with a mental illness and an idealised view of the way the opposite sex lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 06:20 AM
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It's way up the thread but "Actually i think that if you put a woman in the shoes of a man for one year, she would probably fall in depression and kill herself." So I misrememberd, it's all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 05:46 AM
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But when it comes to child support they still believe the draconian rhetoric that father must pay for child support. I quoted you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 05:43 AM
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So why would 50% of women kill themselves if they lacked opposite sex attention?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 05:29 AM
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draconian rhetoric What is draconian about caring for your own child? Why do you feel no responsibility towards your child?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 05:27 AM
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eyeroll Yes, I'm sure that women who got a no fault divorce need to lie to an interviewer about why.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 05:21 AM
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Men don’t endure. They adapt and change things. This is much more valuable trait. Some do, some don't survive. But tell yourself that your life is so horrendous (First World, I'm guessing) that you are a hero for just living.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 05:20 AM
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Coddled? By being able to divorce a violent husband?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 05:08 AM
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Perhaps endure is a better word.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 05:08 AM
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It's about raising your children to adulthood. That oft cited statistic about having twice as many female as male ancestors show that women are better at natural selection than men. And by fend for themselves, I meant investing in their own career and education, rather than trying to lock down a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 05:02 AM
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Generally, society thinks that the people whose dna made the child should take care of it. Women are expected to look after the child even if it was born from rape. The main exception, adoption, involves finding someone to assume your responsibility to the child.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 04:57 AM
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Definition: of a person or animal) able to withstand or recover quickly from difficult conditions. Women throughout the world persevere through horrific conditions.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 04:52 AM
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As opposed to getting old/after divorce, when women choose singledom at far greater rates than men?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 04:49 AM
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Pretty sure there' research showing that when they outnumber women, men do change to be what women want and when they outnumber men, women tend to just get on with life and fend for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 04:48 AM
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These are the reasons women give for divorce. And women are more likely to treat mental health issues, not more likely to have them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 04:46 AM
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Actually i think that if you put a woman in the shoes of a man for one year, she would probably fall in depression and kill herself. I doubt it. women are way more resilient than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 03:24 AM
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No, they're not. You're imagining much more benefit without the downsides.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 01:57 AM
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???
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 01:56 AM
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And I wouldn't date a man with 3 times my N count. Hard pass.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 01:38 AM
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If, statistically there are say, 600 good marriage material women and 550 good marriage material men in an area, that is not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 01:36 AM
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It's more like being accosted by salespeople as you walk through the mall. It might be great if you're into casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 01:24 AM
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I'm not excusing it. It's really hard for me to get my head around as I find meeting new people to be unenjoyable mostly. But it is worth money so I could see that as being a reason for people to do it, rather than, for example, boredom. I'd much rather be bored.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 01:12 AM
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People do things for money all the time which they don't enjoy. They could think of it more like a second job than an enjoyable activity.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 12:40 AM
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It correlates highly with dark machiavellian traits. So, that leaves 70% of women who have never done this, and those re probably the ones you want to actually date. No one denies there are unsuitable people in the dating pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 12:20 AM
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No, actually, that why the difference in how many women file for divorce. Those are the reasons they cite.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 12:04 AM
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Cheating I can understand. Gambling and drug use are more common in people who are unhappy with their lives so I disagree. But I'm open to reading any studies you might have.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 12:03 AM
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You're assuming that free meals are great. A meal where you awkwardly converse with someone you have nothing in common with, the guy boasts incessantly or makes continual sexual references are awkward and not fun. Then you have the whole 'exiting gracefully while he tries to grope you and/or convince you you to have a second date' and the evening in general is not fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:57 PM
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Presumably there's a girl out there who wants you and you want her, finding each other is the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:54 PM
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Presumably that's pregnancy coercion.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:53 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reproductive_coercion
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:40 PM
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Men cheat more, gamble more, use drugs more and are violent more. Just using these four criteria, there are clearly more marriageable women than men. Add in the fact that men want casual sex more, it does suck for women who want to get married. There are a lot of bad actors pretending they want a relationship when really they just want sex and not enough good husbands to go around. Then, you can add in the risk of sexual assault and dating can be really crappy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:35 PM
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And, contrary to popular belief, it happens in roughly equal numbers from both genders 10 vs 11%.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:29 PM
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Men have just as many rights to abort a pregnancy they are experiencing as women do. Granted, these are usually trans men, but if you ever become pregnant, choose the right state.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:24 PM
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TBF, they also claim that Chad is blue pill because 'just be yourself' works for him. Or was that yesterday?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 07:16 AM
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Yes, nowadays, Australia insists that the guys go over a few times and actually get to know the women. It's still different from just an interracial marriage. And as I said, I do know quite a few women in these types of marriages. They are nice ladies and good wives, but in no way do they love their husbands, but they know their duty.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:33 PM
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I lived for a few years in a mining town. It was cheaper for the guys to fly to Asia than internally inn Australia. There were hundreds of mail order marriages. And there are some where I live. Last time I visited my Dad we stopped at a restaurant and there was a group of women there who were clearly trying to have a ladies get together. About half their husbands were there, trying to interrupt and get their attention. Even my husband commented that the guys should just leave them to chat to the…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:17 PM
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Good luck then, I've met hundreds and none of them seemed into the guy. I'm sure it's happened somewhere to someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 08:32 PM
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No, they were nice ladies who married for money to get their family out of poverty. They tried to choose someone non-violent and with money and being married was their job.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 08:02 AM
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I used to live in an area with a large mail order bride population. They are honest to other women. They wouldn't do it if you didn't have money.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 08:30 PM
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Or someone who can read body language.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 08:29 PM
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I used to live in an area where there was a large mail order bride population and my brother married one. It's not attraction. It's "I'm doing this for my children/family." "My children will have a better life in Australia". "It was get married or work in a brothel," "My next marriage I will marry for love."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 08:28 PM
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Do you have no opinion of the people you meet?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 09:01 AM
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I don't care about passport bros as long as everyone is of age. It just amuses me that men go around introducing these women as their girlfriend and expecting us to act as though they charmed them. Dude, we all know you purchased sex, why are you trying to boast?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 07:39 AM
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Everyone still does it, they've just learned to keep their judgments to themselves (which I agree with them doing).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 02:22 AM
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You're the one who keeps shifting the goalposts to whatever sounds best for the argument. Does he simply find her attractive or does he already love her?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 02:21 AM
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Well if he doesn't want to hit on her, there's no problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 12:42 AM
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It starts early. Babies walk at 12 months on average but when you break it down, it's 11 for girls and 13 for boys. Girls start puberty two years before boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 12:38 AM
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The one near me has a lot of machinery that is expensive to buy, like wood turners and welders etc. The men are allowed to book in time on it. They can make things for themselves, there's no obligation to do stuff for free but I guess after you have made pens/bookcases for all your family, you need something to do with the rest of it. They also have people who collect free wood etc from Facebook.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 12:35 AM
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I assume that he wants to, we are talking about his options. IMO, he has left it too long if he is already 'in love' and has no indications from her. If he is just interested, he can take a casual shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 12:29 AM
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Yes, but that is not developing feelings for her. And I'm nor saying that's a bad thing. I'm addressing the guys who fully develop an infatuation without even mentioning it to the woman in question.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 11:31 PM
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The original question was "What about men who develop feelings further into the friendship" which is why I asked whether he woke up totally in love with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 11:12 PM
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Finding her attractive is not feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 10:38 PM
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Did he go to be bed one day thinking of her as a friend and get up the next day fully in love? And then decided to tell her his feelings on the morning of her wedding? There should be a point where he can ask her out unless she is in a relationship, where it would be inappropriate to do so. Also, everything MistyMaisel said about checking for indications she likes you and not proceeding if she doesn't show any.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 10:17 PM
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The opposite can work. If I'm reading a book (therefore annoyed at being talked to), I put the book down, close it, turn to face them and look them directly in the eye and say "Sorry, what did you say". Then I let them talk without responding. It puts them on the spot and it's really awkward for them. One day someone will be encouraged by this but so far, no. It's less of a conversation and more highly judged public speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 10:08 PM
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It's just worse guys, the kind you wouldn't want if you were single.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 08:39 PM
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75% of men under 50 are married. I looked for stats under 40 but there doesn't seem to be a cutoff there. Shouldn't be too different.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 04:57 AM
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Yes. But we are talking about the men who are not struggling to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 04:43 AM
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This is about the men who marry, not those who don't. Men are still getting married and this is when.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 04:19 AM
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From the book: Why Men Marry. It's actually called the age of commitment. Most men will not consider marriage before they reach the age of commitment For 80% of high school graduates, 23 For 80% of college graduates, 26 For college men, the high-commitment period is 28-33 For men who go to graduate school, 30-36 After the age of 37-38, the chances that he’ll commit drops dramatically. After 43, it drops even more A 40+ man who has been married before is more likely to remarry than an equivalent …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 08:29 PM
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Men reach the Age of Marriage and choose the next suitable woman they date.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 08:40 AM
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Of course you would. You perceive no risk to yourself and obviously don’t care if women and children are raped vs you being inconvenienced even a little.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 09:25 PM
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You do know the difference between reduced rape and no rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 08:16 PM
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Birds build nests and parent the chicks so they're presumably more concerned about things like the mother's fidelity and est building ability.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 07:16 AM
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But when thye choose their wife, their standards tend to go up. And they're never truly at zero.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 02:43 AM
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If they didn't, they wouldn't have standards at all. They'd happily sleep with old a ugly women. It's all sex right.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 09:59 PM
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shallow: not exhibiting, requiring, or capable of serious thought. Men choosing women based on looks alone or by not caring about their personality would in fact be much more shallow than a woman who has a long list of factors which would make her potential husband a good choice, But generally red pill thinks women are choosing Chads so why would the guys who would be in demand -fit, financially stable, attractive, sociable, competent, well-adjusted men be choosing ugly, obese, unfeminine women?…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 09:38 PM
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My point is that humans aren't that type of animal. The males invest in child rearing so are choosier than the males of a species where they don't. Men hear a theory they like and keep repeating it but that's true for species where the male bolts after mating.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 09:33 PM
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Not sure. There's a toothless old lady equivalent. That handsome young peacock could be getting interest from a peahen in her last year of egglaying who is too slow to avoid being eaten and the eggs will be left unattended and the chicks die. Ever seen a peacock turn a peahen down?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 09:31 PM
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I was a virgin at 21, and here I am, hating red pill guys and not dating guys more than two years older than me. Good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 11:00 AM
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The lions don't raise the cubs, so they have little investment. Humans help with raising the children so they care if the mother is a crack whore (generally).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 10:49 AM
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A fuckton. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 09:22 AM
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Men cheat more, gamble more and use drugs more. Even just using those three criteria, there are obviously more marriageable women than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 11:15 PM
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Most of them probably wouldn't if they had better men to choose from. Some would, no doubt, as it would be all they know.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 08:38 PM
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And lots of women don't want to date men who don't care about them as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 07:30 AM
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I dated four men without degrees. Three of them were very insecure about it and I married the fourth one, who didn't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 08:06 AM
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And financially compensate me for it to No, it's a privilege and if you divorce, you're raping him if you want 50% of the marital assets. Since you didn't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 11:09 PM
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I think it's the age range that people set. So if a 30yo woman put 28-35 , then those ages are graphed as 'in the dating pool'.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 10:56 PM
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Technically, you could call an ad initiating but I've always called for an appointment, had to travel to the interview for which I've bought clothes and had to show off at the interview.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 10:54 AM
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And hopeful men will confuse friendliness with flirtation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 08:31 PM
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I like guys with longer thin faces not round faces. I don't think this is a universal preference, judging by the way women used to swoon over DiCaprio. Is this information of any value to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 08:30 PM
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Honestly, it depends on the guy. As a single uni student, I didn't mind getting approached on campus by a guy my own age. Older guys in the street, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 10:11 AM
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No it doesn’t. The rates have decreased since the 80s and more since before then.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 08:22 PM
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If you discount all the rape and child molestation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 07:56 AM
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Lots of women date like this. Look how many say they only date men they know. Don’t sink months into it, but more than five minutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 06:36 AM
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Only really stupid people. Most people think ‘ They’re cute.’ And talk to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 02:38 AM
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But you don't learn his personality all at once. You might be dating a month before he loses his temper and yells at you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 11:29 PM
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They can spend time with them platonically and get to see if they are compatible and if they can generate interest. Spending some time (not months) will also let them see if their presence is welcomed or avoided by the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 11:08 PM
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Because most of the men I know are able to work out which women might be into them better than you stated you can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 10:42 PM
1

Most men are better at reading people than you seem to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 10:13 PM
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I didn't say the woman would approach but there are clear signs that a woman completely hates you and most men are capable of reading those, they just prefer to ignore them and shoot their shot of the woman is attractive. When they should avoid the woman and try someone else, even if they aren't up to looking for subtle signs
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 09:27 PM
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There's no guy whose so attractive that his personality doesn't matter to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 08:27 PM
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Hence the need for men to learn to read the room and know which women aren't into him at all and never will be. Then he doesn't waste his chances on women who weren't and never were going to be into him. Guys on this board always seem to act like it's a dice throw.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 08:27 PM
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No, that's the first bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 08:26 AM
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So the men who are seeking out the women who expanded her social circle, didn't expand their social circle either?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 08:20 AM
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No, it explains why the govt isn't interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 08:16 AM
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Australia. Technically it's 11.8. Do they serve the whole sentence?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 08:13 AM
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That's why he does it. It's also why the government expects him to act like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 08:28 PM
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Usually because the Dad signs a legal document attesting that he is the father of the child.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 08:44 AM
2

She was owed child support by the actual father, maybe track him down and he can repay the money?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 08:24 AM
1

Men get less than 4 years for rape and ten for murder.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 08:21 AM
2

I married a guy with a kid, had three more. Still happy more than 20 years later.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 08:18 AM
1

Now that women know the men they marry, it's not directly comparable.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 08:35 PM
1

Is it one inspired by love for a woman you don't know?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 10:56 AM
1

Do they care about the woman or duty?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 10:26 AM
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How much are women supposed to care about a man they barely know?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 08:30 AM
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https://labs.la.utexas.edu/buss/files/2013/02/The-Mate-Switching-Hypothesis-FINAL-PUBLISHED-2017.pdf We end by arguing that the mate switching hypothesis is likely to explain a greater propor- tion of women's short-term mating and sexual affairs than the current leading evolutionary explanation—that of securing “good genes” from an affair partner alongside investment from a regular partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 07:35 AM
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There are fewer of them so they are even more valuable. Once, with death from illness and war, a women might marry three times and have her twelve children with the three guys. Now, most women have two kid with one husband even if they marry more than once.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 08:40 PM
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Didn't the guy who first suggested that, recant the theory?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 08:36 PM
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How do you know this? I have never been attracted to a fat guy and can't imagine what it would take to make that happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 08:31 PM
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That's the problem. They're mostly wrong people. Until you meet the right person.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 09:46 AM
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People tend to overestimate attractiveness Unattractive people are unaware of their (un)attractiveness "Unattractive participants considerably overestimated their attractiveness compared to ratings by strangers. In contrast, attractive participants were more accurate." Judging attractiveness: Biases due to raters' own attractiveness and intelligence "It is notable that whereas only 2 males gave themselves the lowest self-perceived attractiveness rating on the scale, 14 females rated themselves t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 09:55 PM
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It was. She was 25 and had a new baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 08:17 PM
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A friend of mine got up at midnight to feed her baby. Her husband was woken at 6am by a screaming baby to find his wife's body. She killed herself in what was presumably a fit of post-natal depression.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 08:12 AM
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Are men listing it as a reason for divorce? If so, then it counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 10:33 PM
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Bullshit. Men cheat more, gamble more, use drugs more and are violent more. Then they get divorced more.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 09:47 PM
1

There's actually a fair bit of research on women asking for promotions and being thought less of for doing so.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 09:32 PM
1

It's more of a promotion gap, where men get more promotions in certain jobs because men are commanding and women are bossy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 09:12 AM
3

The fiancee that she never wanted to have, but her mother insisted?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 09:11 AM
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Or maybe the opposite. There are so many fat men that women have to consider marrying a much less attractive man than they would have for most of history.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 08:40 AM
1

How many of them were in prison for rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 07:02 AM
6

Number 3 is also "still figuring it out".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 06:30 AM
4

My husband is about four inches taller than my first boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 07:56 AM
3

There has to be a limit, otherwise they end up the flying monkey of a narcissistic person in the vicinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 07:40 AM
2

How many times have you been divorced?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 04:00 AM
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I assume you choose to ask out women only after seeing them donate to charity or something, not because of the way they look.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 11:55 PM
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Why? Because their husbands cheat more, gamble more are violent more and do less housework? That's not really the gotcha you think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 11:43 PM
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I find it very sexy. My husband can do it too. Sport bleh.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 09:24 PM
1

Latin dancers met up for social events all the time. Most of them do include dancing but also food/swimming etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 09:12 PM
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Also in Australia. Drink before you go, take some friends and have fun, less drinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 08:28 PM
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That's on the other partner. If you marry a fully employed person who does half the chores who after a year quits their job and does nothing and you divorce them, everything is divided on the basis that they are capable of working and 50/50 is fair. A judge will be very suspicious if you quit your job just before the divorce is filed. If, on the other hand, they marriage endures for another ten years with no job and a lazy spouse, then yes, it's going to be different because they are much less e…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 08:28 PM
3

Anything can be overturned any time. Lets just ignore it all.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 08:11 PM
5

Lotsa broke guys in prison.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 10:09 AM
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And we are paying for a courtcase to prove the infidelity? Probably $120,000 each now. Hopefully there are a lot of marital assets.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 09:53 AM
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No 50/50 is standard. If he doesn't have to give her anything if she cheats then surely giving her 100% if he cheats makes more logical sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 09:35 AM
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I hate horror movies. Hope she doesn't come from an abusive home life and you remind her of her Dad.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 09:34 AM
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I'd be open to suggestions. Is he going to also be penalised more if he cheats?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 09:22 AM
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I'm glad you're permanently single. I don't have to be conditioned by anything. I've never dated a man who hit me and I would drop one who did immediately.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 09:19 AM
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You have no proof of this apart from your own convictions. Women don't end up with more sexual partners than men, they add about one, from 4 to five. Men, at the same time lose one, from 7-6. So they are lying just as much. So the average is either 5 or it's accounted for by the fact that most surveys drop the results of prostitutes from the results and that accounts for the difference. Plus, if you were correct, women still aren't going to be caught by the new laws.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 09:17 AM
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Not really relevant for most people. The top 1% of men are affected. Perhaps a prenup?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 08:52 AM
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Sure, now pay your wife for all the childcare and housework she did over 50% (or for her half of the investment if she worked). Done.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 08:38 AM
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Both of us wanted to meet someone so we went to where single people congregate. Yes, even introverts go to nightclubs.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 08:00 AM
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In the past, you could beat your wife, is that what you want? In the past, you could use her cheating to get a divorce, which you can now get without telling everyone your private business. In the past you could go to court, prove cheating and, if there was any money left from the lawyers, presumably get more in the divorce settlement. My husband paid $80,000 for a 3 day court case for custody in the 90s. What are your assets compared to that? Also, everyone knows your business. Men cheat more i…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 07:31 AM
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I'm an introvert and i met my husband at a nightclub. That's the place to go to meet single people.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 07:23 AM
4

In Australia, feminists helped get the draft abolished.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 07:16 AM
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Feel free.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 08:41 PM
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Two of the guys have 'still figuring it out' as what they're looking for and one clearly states short term, so good luck with that ring.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 07:49 AM
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And, they've spent hours together, presumably without any hint from the woman. He's getting no IOIs and is still going full. "I love you."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 08:04 AM
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Or has someone better, or thinks he's a fuckboi, or she doesn't like blonds, or she'd moving state next month, or her Dad just died.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 07:15 AM
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a) red pill are the one who claim AWALT b) most women know younger women. My niece got married last year, her sister is dating, my children are in their dating years.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 08:01 AM
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So you chose your gf solely on the basis of her appearance and were surprised when she did likewise?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 07:44 AM
5

Mathematically, how can all women have multiple orbiters?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 07:42 AM
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Women do care and they reject men for it all the time. They just don’t tell them why.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 08:20 PM
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https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/infidelity-rates-by-country Meanwhile, in the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 04:49 AM
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Frequently. And men are the ones boasting about how helpful they are to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 04:47 AM
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I'm in Australia, so largely The Phillipines.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 04:25 AM
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I don't expect anything. It's men who claim that they are at the service of women and do nice things all the time. Other women helped me all the time. Especially those old enough to have had children themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 04:25 AM
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If you knew what it was like to live overseas I suspect you would think about this very differently. I know a lot more about how some of these women lived before their marriages to their husband. i don't judge them badly for their decision. I just laugh at the men who think there is any sexual attraction there.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 04:00 AM
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dudes in general are not robots that help out women whenever we see one struggling. idk why you seem to think we are I don't think you are. Whenever I've actually needed help, there has been none. Just thinly veiled attempts to 'help' me carry something not heavy and use the opportunity to ask me out.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 12:34 AM
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I used to live in an area where there were a lot of mail order brides. I've heard how they talk about their husbands. And their sons. "He wants to do an art degree. Art. After all I sacrificed for him to get a good start in life."
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 10:02 PM
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I mean, the number of guys who will let a visibly pregnant woman struggle with her groceries is a lot higher than you apparently think. Men, helpful as fuck when you're single looking, not present when you actually need help.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 09:51 PM
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Middle class guys are much wealthier than the guys in their country and no, they don't find the guy attractive. They have a choice between sex work in a bar with 20 guys a week or one guy which pays better.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 09:40 PM
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It's not undeniable actually. https://www.psychologytoday.com/au/blog/darwin-does-dating/202112/how-many-previous-sexual-partners-is-too-many
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 10:19 PM
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They've got to be in it at some time. Unless they're all getting married at 20, before women mature.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 08:20 AM
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Whereas men will say "Doesn't matter, had sex" after an atrocious relationship containing abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 02:37 AM
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It doesn't have to be S tier. It's just better than mens. A lot of men think with their dick and ignore blatant waving red flags.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 02:03 AM
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Dating problems would not exist for men. They'd exist for women who don't find fat men attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:56 PM
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It's rewording complaint red pillers make all the time. "Young women are more agreeable' 'women in their 40s have such high standards', "only stupid women end up as single mothers'
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:32 PM
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If you don't date fat girls then why do you care?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:21 PM
3

Both things are true. Even if you roll six times, the people who roll a six early grab their choice and leave fewer items in the prize bin.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 10:57 PM
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It's raising your expectations, not lowering them. They want a man who is a good father as well as being hot. They have realised that the guy they were dating wasn't as good a catch as they thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 10:56 PM
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Who/ Both men and women. Because fat men's equal is a fat woman. I'm sorry if you're not as obese as the women who ill date you but if they lost the weight, they still probably wouldn't date you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 10:23 PM
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So, a few men who are only obese have to match with women who are morbidly obese (total of population who are moridly obese about 9%). I don't really care. There are still equal numbers of acceptable weight people.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 06:07 AM
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Not if there are equal numbers of thin people.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 02:49 AM
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Yes, so fat people have to marry other fat people. And thin people marry thin people. In equal numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 10:46 PM
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As long as equal numbers are of a healthy weight, it doesn't really matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 10:30 PM
3

Half a percent?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 11:21 AM
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skew?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 08:51 AM
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Approximately what percentage of men are so fit they show as obese on bmi scales because of being too muscular?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 08:39 AM
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A Single year for a woman gives her 1000s of years of applicants compared to a man. How many dates do you think a woman can go on in a year? 365? And it would take a man thousands of years to get that many dates?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 07:46 AM
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Yeah, so we don't want man whores. Stop insisting we do.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 07:38 AM
2

If either of my grandmothers ever grieved their husbands, I never saw it. Admittedly, one's husband died when my father was 14.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 07:33 AM
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That doesn't mean it's their fault. There are reasons, like autism, which exist without anyone being at fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 08:37 PM
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And yet men still manage to do it as often as women. Hmmm.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 08:25 PM
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The banks wanted to talk with the person earning the money. Why? surely the person who has the money is the one who needs a bank account. Can I not put my inheritance in the bank? It's not a loan that needs to be repaid, it's for money you already have possession of.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 03:55 AM
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Men were less fat too.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 02:25 AM
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And last I checked, men baby trapped as often as women. They just act like victims afterwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 10:57 PM
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My maternal grandfather married a 28yo spinster who dead bedroomed him entirely after their fourth child. She was wealthy but plain, he was attractive but an alcoholic. My paternal grandmother met her husband when she was 23 and pregnant and gave up the baby to an orphanage. My father, the first child of the marriage, turned out not to be his biological child.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 10:37 PM
1

But until then, only 20% of women are available to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 10:22 PM
2

All 80% with the remaining 20% of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 01:12 PM
2

So 80% of men are virgins until they're 30? Bold claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 01:02 PM
2

I don't actually have any personal experience with this one, but it's fairly common on reddit that the guy at least claims to have a job at first. Sometimes it turns out it was his mother giving him money, but there seems to be deceit at the beginning in most cases I see.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 07:47 AM
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Probably, the golddigger leads with what she wants. If the guy doesn't pay for dates, they break up fairly quickly. With bums, the guy usually starts with a job, moves into the house and then 'gets fired' and lies about applying for another. Bait and switch. Society doesn't really view either of them favourably.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 07:33 AM
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The age range of the general population makes that statement fairly doubtful.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 07:24 AM
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Because that's what we're talking about? Whether being a bum is looked on better than being a golddigger. You trying to say "Well women can get sex from men they aren't attracted to is just...irrelevant, and I suspect that the women who are golddiggers would prefer just getting the money without having to have the sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 07:21 AM
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dudes that actively want that kind of reversal (having her pay for everything etc) are seen as total bums, get basically ignored all together, or are not really taken seriously And gold diggers don't get taken seriously and have to do sex work on top of that. I know what looks like a better deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 07:11 AM
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That makes it a cost, not a benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 03:26 AM
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Golddiggers aren't interested in the fucking, they want money or marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 03:14 AM
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I assure you that I don't talk to people about my appearance. In person, I don't have to. But I am nice to people and they are nice to me. But I used to politely decline men all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 02:43 AM
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Why would I be humble? So I would date some 6/10 guy? Red pillers are always complaining about women not settling until they're 30, dating older men and not dating their looksmatch. And now, when I marry my looksandagematch at 25, you're still critical.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 02:18 AM
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No, they were rich guys. But yes, I was 8/10 and so was my husband. Deal with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 02:07 AM
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He's claiming 80% of women EXCLUSIVELY focus on the top 20% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 01:44 AM
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Guys twice my age with beer guts will shoot their shot on 8/10 women in their twenties.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 01:44 AM
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And men's expectations are also out of whack if some of the guys who have hit on me are any indication.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 01:00 AM
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I'd like to see evidence of 80% of women being exclusively interested to the top 20% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 12:50 AM
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This was my brother. He's a 'seat of the pants' person who married an organiser. His life was booked two years in advance.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 12:39 AM
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My husband has an actual shed. He refuses to live in a house without one. I sometimes have a craft room but it usually ends up with a different purpose when someone moves into our house 'for a while'.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 12:19 AM
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Bums vs golddiggers. Different terms but do people think better of one than the other?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 12:10 AM
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Yes, most of them will not have been single at that time. lots of them wouldn't have been compatible with you. Some of them might have been having an off day. You only went once, you didn't really get to know them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 12:05 AM
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established truthism No, it's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 11:48 PM
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It also gives you time to weed them out for other reasons. If the woman is a foodie and the man starts showing signs of being a picky eater who only ever eats at three restaurants, then she can dump him for that, or being a Mummy's boy, or not wanting children, already having children, being in love with his ex. Anything really.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 11:13 PM
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No. Just be nice, all the time. It's really effortless.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 11:13 AM
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Did the man actually obtain a job or did he do the 'wipe down someone's windshield at a red light' thing, then get angry that the person in the car wasn't happy?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 10:04 AM
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Really? because I'm just nice to people as a default, not because I want anything from them. If you're not nice for nothing, you're not actually nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 09:58 AM
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I have two brothers. One favours my mother but the other one and I both favour my dad. He's also 4 inches taller than me. I imagine that if I was born a man, I'd actually look a lot like my younger brother as both of my sons do also. What else would I look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 07:54 AM
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As long as you believe women are equal to men and should have equal rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 08:35 AM
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I call myself a feminist and have never done 'activism' unless you mean holding a job and being a good example.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 08:20 AM
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It's not just the blame, its the disbelief. Home wrecker is like "I'm so desirable he cheated on his wife for me." Normal people are like "So, you saved him the money a pro would cost cause he's a cheater?"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 10:24 PM
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She can do this without consulting the father. Since men aren't physically joined to the baby it's harder to track them down but there is the putative father registry which you can put yourself on. And if you suspect that the abandoned baby on the news is yours you can go along and ask for a dna test. What else do you suggest?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 07:16 AM
1

Well, yes, I married someone else who was capable of acting normal but also keen.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 04:53 AM
1

Yes, he did. I said yes to the first date. He had a chance and blew it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 04:06 AM
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It won’t last if he can’t act normally, no. Especially when I tell him not to act in a weird way and he not only continues, he ramps up the behaviour. He was doing the opposite if creating rapport.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 12:04 AM
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No, when he acted normal and asked me out on a date, I said yes. Then he acted weird and clingy and I broke up with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 11:02 PM
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It's so crazy for women to have standards, especially really out there ones like "Act normal" It wasn't weeks, it was four days and I told him he was acting weird on Day 2 but he didn't stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 08:31 PM
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Men can show desperation after getting the date. I agreed to go on a date with a guy who then 'accidentally' ran into me 2-3 times a day on the college campus before the date. When I broke up with him, I managed never to see him again. After the five page 'Please don't break up with me mail.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 09:28 AM
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My parents are divorced. My mother declared she was done with men and never even dated again. I don't think she was happy after the kids left home, but she managed. My Dad married again twice.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 11:51 PM
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Such oppression. Well, he's 52 and seems happy enough with the "Keep healthy and get laid often deal we have. He doesn't actually want to be fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 08:15 PM
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I'm not saying that men don't work hard, but harder than ever is a stretch. I've never been on Tinder but I am married and still have regular sex with my husband. Maybe it's because he's not fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 08:59 AM
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Men work harder now than they ever have Men work more now than when they all plowed fields by hand/worked as a blacksmith or hauled in fishing nets?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 08:25 AM
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I'm surprised that 39% of men in college thought negatively of the pursuit of power and money. They're just there for knowledge I guess?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 08:07 AM
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I think it's like a kilometre but badly spelled.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 07:59 AM
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Is it? I have had a type all my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 07:40 AM
2

It's not a coin toss. It's highly related to what kind of person you are and whether you are capable of sustaining a healthy relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 08:15 AM
0

Apparently it works too. I used to have a study which said men who spent more on dates were more successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 08:35 PM
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The point is that there aren't enough men for every woman to have one. A certain percentage will go "I must have a man" and focus their efforts on that and others will go "Well, I guess I'm never getting married, time to get a degree and save my own house deposit."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 07:55 AM
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From memory, the investing in themselves was education etc to improve their career prospects and their new single life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 04:12 AM
3

Yes, some women rush to snag a husband at any cost and others decide to invest in themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 10:33 PM
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Yes, men are making the decisions, unlike Western countries where women make the decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 05:29 AM
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Spam and two veg. I forgot that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 08:10 PM
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My uncle had a receding hairline at 21. Apparently it's highly correlated with Type 2 diabetes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 08:49 AM
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And not fancy foreign food either. A pork chop and two veg was as fancy as it got. Better than meatloaf and two veg.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 08:16 AM
5

Want to change it? Step up. My husband is a leader in Scouts and it's abut 1 in 4 men are leaders with about 1/3 Scouts are girls. They'd welcome you with open arms.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 09:04 AM
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That's where the 80/20 comes from.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 10:12 PM
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Yes, once they hit 40, pretty much no men are attractive. See: the infamous OKCUPID study.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 10:29 AM
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Rudman and Goodwin's suggested that maternal bonding and male intimidation influences gender attitudes. They were raised by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 09:39 AM
1

So men should enjoy sex with an ugly girl just as much as with a supermodel?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 09:33 AM
1

Red pill usually uses betabux to mean an arrangement where the woman settles but the guy initially thinks she's in love with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 08:26 PM
4

Why is betabucks a recognized phenomena? Who recognises this apart from red ill?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 06:45 AM
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My husband and i spent three days without seeing each other in the first six months of dating. We talked on the phone while he was away. So, there is no limit if I like them. I have previously had a guy I went on one date with 'accidentally' run into me every day for five days, so I dumped him. Part of the difference being that I obviously liked this guy less but the other part being that I arranged to see my future husband every day instead of him weirdly stalking me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 12:05 AM
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Women absolutely all go after the same guy. The average guy gets a match a month. The average girl gets hundreds. Doesn't this show that men are the ones all going after the same girl?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 10:52 AM
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It’s off by 12 percent which is what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 11:58 PM
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No, your maths is wrong. It''s 17 of the original 100 who are dating guys in their 30s. The 28 yo are dating 30yo guys and the 29 year old s are dating 31 yo guys. The age range is 18-29, so there are 12 ages 18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,28 and 29. Eight point three of each age, so two age groups, 16.67% which i have rounded to 17.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 08:24 PM
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Why are you halving it? You minus one from the other. There's a hundred men and a hundred women, 37 of each are in relationships with people in the same age bracket, leaving 63 single men. Seventeen of the women are in relationships with guys who are in the next age bracket, so all things being equal there would be 63-17=46 single women. But there are actually only 34 single women leaving 12 which we haven't accounted for.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 03:02 AM
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It's not meant to account for them all, but the difference between 63 and 34 is 29 and this accounts for 17%, so there is only 12% left to account for.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 10:07 PM
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What about them?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 10:45 PM
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No, 20% of women in their twenties. 20-29. Obviously, if you add the extra 2 years, it's just under 17%.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 10:41 PM
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No, the average age gap is three years with the most common being 2, so 28 and 29 year old women, 20% of the group of 20-29 yo are dating guys in their 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 10:23 PM
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Then a few months after this, you have a free night. Netflix and a bag of chips, trivia night at the pub or a second date with the guy you went for coffee with three days ago. Which one wins?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 10:46 AM
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This is hysterical. Give a guy who's not really anything special a chance and watch him hit you up for sex too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 03:17 AM
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Sis she’s plain at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 10:48 PM
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No, you are dodging answering. The woman is thin young and white. The main reason that she should not be in Chad's league is that she is plain or ugly. You're doing that thing where you try to sound like your standards are low but you want a young Stacey.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 09:23 PM
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i thought red pillers were already complaining about how unfair the dating market is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 10:05 AM
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Obviously, or ordinary guys would be in hot girls leagues.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 01:37 AM
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So now instead of addressing why you think a young thin desirable woman shouldn't be in Chad's league, you're calling her a slut, just like Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 12:23 AM
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So if thin 25 yo white women aren’t in Chads league, who is? Unless of course she is not very pretty, which is why I asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 09:33 PM
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I am asking why the girl is not in Chad's league.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 08:24 PM
4

So, she's an ugly or average thin white girl?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 10:45 AM
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a thin 25 year old white woman is going on a bunch of dates and not giving a guy a real chance to court her/get serious unless it's 6 figure chad. Who do you think she should be giving a chance to? Is she not good enough for Chad? isn't she a women at peak desirability?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 08:58 AM
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It's very common in men. Not much choice left if you exclude them. Look at all the guys on this board, dismissing what women have to say. Then either being single or getting divorced.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 08:27 PM
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They do, the man doesn't take them seriously until the break up. Then they try to negotiate, but it's already over. Like men who harass women for dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 09:54 AM
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Yes, and if that guy is a rapist, he just got shorter and feminine and his victim got taller and muscly. So, now, for example, he's the average woman's height of 5'4 and she's the average guy height of 5'8.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 06:55 AM
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I was assuming that women would gain an average of four inches in height while the men lose it, along with the associated musculature.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 06:37 AM
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No, it's not. It's implying that victims of sexual assault are now suddenly bigger and stronger than their assailants.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 06:33 AM
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Pretty sure feminism is against it. Treat women like people is the opposite of pedestalisation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 06:11 AM
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Not until I read the above post which seems to think the risk of rape will drop do to women now being filled with testosterone. Presumably, they would sympathise with most men who are now women but the obvious exception sprang to mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 04:26 AM
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It might have been better for high quality people but low quality people weren't selecting from high or medium quality. They were pressured to settle with someone, anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 09:50 PM
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Or a lot of women have the chance to get revenge for their sexual assaults. Especially if we all look recognisable.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 09:31 PM
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Dream come true for red pillers. Women will finally stop wearing makeup and there will be a level playing field.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 09:16 PM
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Simultaneously, my grandparents wouldn't be hot commodities on the dating market today. They mainly got married due to social pressure. My grandmother was a not very pretty bitch who did have money which is why she managed to marry. She ended up with an alcoholic war veteran who was serially unemployed and burned their house. down. My other grandmother gave up a child for adoption before she met her husband. One fathered by her cousin when she was 13, then she had my Dad by a different man (marr…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 08:38 AM
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Probably, in the US. It's highly subsidised in Australia.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 06:21 AM
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They'll need that to pay for their old aged home.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 06:02 AM
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I wouldn't ban it but I don't think highly of anyone who does it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 05:56 AM
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My husband thought that, as a single Dad, he would be limited to single mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 05:39 AM
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You're supposed to be playing "Go Fish".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 08:57 AM
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Did you have good self esteem in the beginning?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 09:11 AM
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