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the thing is "rapist" isn't something tattooed on the forehead. 7 times out of 10 a woman isn't intentionally "choosing wrong" because her partner turns abusive later.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 10:28 PM
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Well yeah. women risk more when dating, so men should have to work harder to pursue women. I don't think women are as scared of rejection as much as they simply don't want to be with a guy they have to chase.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 09:31 PM
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I think we've been discussing biological reality for decades. The issue comes where the manosphere label women as "naturally" scheming, dishonest, incapable of true bonding, etc. There's also a lot of use of unfounded science used to push biological essentialist views. Like that women's ability to "pairbond" is damaged by casual sex (but not men) so only virgins will have the capacity for strong romantic bonds with their partner. There's also the fact some things can be "natural" and yet better …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 09:09 PM
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Just my perspective of online dating, but I get a TON of hits. of those hits, only 50% actually message or respond. and 75% of those responders are very dry "HRU" "hey" "emoji." Bear in mind, my profile is clear about a serious romance. When I give these guys a chance in person, they almost seem like, offended I want to get to know them. they're super cold and like bothered I ask them about themselves. At worst, they start feeling me up -_- All that is to say, I feel like playing the suffering O…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 10:32 PM
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I feel like you don't have to feel "guilty" but challenging your problematic friends is not a gendered issue. I had a friend who was abusing her boyfriend with reproductive coercion (she stopped her birth control) and I told her straight up, that it was rape and if her boyfriend testified against her I would side with him. She broke up with him and I helped him move out as she went crazy. before this, she was a perfect friend to me, but I knew I had to do what right by him. that's all women want…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 10:28 PM
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I think we'll survive if you don't date.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 10:24 PM
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If you look at it from the biological perspective, it makes more sense why women vet their partners so hard. men don't have to worry about literally carrying the spawn of their partner. it's a huge sacrifice of your body, money, time, and identity. You want to be SUPER CERTAIN you're CRAZY about him. women are biologically more vulnerable. A man with bad hygiene can give women yeast/BV. and if he cheats, there's more chances for women to get STD's, especially the ones that cause cervical cancer.…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 10:23 PM
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I think something that could combat this is men verbalizing they want more from valentines. you can complain all you like that men are ignored but I feel that's because most women just assume men don't want anything but sex. Speak up! ask for flowers, cards, special treatment, etc! Or better yet, we should go the way Japan has. Where they have a holiday for men to be pampered (valentines) and a day for women to be pampered (white day) lets start it together. Valentines is already established as …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 09:40 PM
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But, we know most feminists fucking HATE HATE HATE trans people, "oh they want to be a woman, objectification! Oppression!" That's not feminism, that's trans exclusionary radical feminism. Aka, an extremist group. Go on any feminist subreddit not aligned with terfs and you'll probably see a rule about accepting trans women and men. If I prefer to play as a woman or wish I was a woman its somehow Believe it or not, supporting trans women is a BIG deal for us feminists. It's the "No one will speak…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 09:34 PM
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The reason extremists exist is because people get so mistreated they lash out disproportionately. No normal man wakes up one day and says "I'm going to kill women because they're all stacies who wont fuck me!1?!!!1" yet we still have incels who are mass-shooters. No, they become this way because they're lonely and isolated and society doesn't give them enough avenues to get help. I challenge you to ask the next extremist feminist to tell you what they've been through. you'll probably hear some d…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 09:22 PM
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As a woman I will correct your false assumption. I am attracted to men, so much so that I draw naked men in sexual positions and make money off of it. Most of my audience is female. Just wondering, do you think something is wrong with me and my customers for being sexually attracted enough to make and consume this content?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 09:10 PM
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Power shouldn't be given back by feminists. It should be taken from the feminazi's and Terfs. Part of removing their power is removing their ammo. Less women are radicalized when they're treated well.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 09:07 PM
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my claim is that women aren't aroused by seeing men naked, the male body does not turn them on, they do not sexualize/objectify men I need emotions tied to it, but once they are I do have sexual feelings tied to the male body. A small portion of my income actually comes from making sexual comics about men, and most of my audience is female. I think my content is arousing, and a large part of that is their appearance but also, the story I add to the comic. all of those place the woman as the obje…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 09:05 PM
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I think toxic feminism is an overcorrection from misogyny. I think, over time, as women face less oppression and receive more support from ethical feminists and men, it will die out. If we keep allowing a patriarchy to grow in strength over our lives, of course it will create more and more extremists. Same as if we ignore the male loneliness crisis, we will see more violent incels and the like. I think feminists are aware of the problem, but it's hard to address it because anything we do is inst…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 08:07 PM
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reword that? It made no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 08:02 PM
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I mean I already said we should condemn feminazi's, why do you assume mentioning terfs is me "stopping there?" Of course I don't like misandry. Treating men poorly isn't going to make it so women are treated better.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 08:01 PM
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abusing and hurting men or hating on women is horrible, but the percentage of so-called feminists advocating that is incredibly, incredibly small, and almost always VEHEMENTLY looked down upon by the rest of the group. I think any big group will have bad actors, but it's kinda like saying conservationists are all given a bad name because of those extremists which throw soup on priceless art.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 05:18 PM
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I think you're off base saying women aren't held accountable. Take a look at the latest generation of women calling out toxic feminism and terf antics. I think as an outsider, you just don't see these women being challenged in our groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 05:15 PM
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I mean I don't think it's really possible to quantify what the biggest threat to feminism is, but I will agree that feminazi's have always been a problem. though I think this is very known to feminists. beyond taking things too far, leaning into misandry, we see these feminazi's start leaning into shit like transphobia and manbashing. eventually the bigotry comes full circle and they're breathing down women's necks for having husbands or choosing to be a stay at home mom. I think the best thing …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 05:13 PM
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so... im confused. Lesbian content = normal for men to consume. Because men are attracted to women. gay content = Abnormal for women to consume. Because women are...attracted to men?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 05:07 PM
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how is it abnormal to like a story where there's no woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 03:39 PM
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is it mentally ill when men like lesbian porn?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 03:34 PM
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I think in the past, most women self inserted as the bottom guy. but that was kinda problematic because it made authors write him as basically a girl with penis, and the misogyny seeped in. Today, a lot of content doesn't have such rigid "top & bottom" dynamics, with "verse" couples becoming more and more popular. I think part of the reason i like modern MxM is I feel like women, even in romance, are not written well? Like looking at the Het romance books the women are always like, exceedingly p…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 03:34 PM
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you're creepily emotional. bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 02:49 PM
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You literally tried to say the nazi rape kidnap program was good.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 02:22 PM
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I know multiple fujo's IRL and online who have boyfriends and husbands. Idk unless you consider them both forever alone weebs together, haha. One of my friends is writing a 4-part homerotic novel series, and she's pregnant with her second kid. she makes good money off her books too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 02:12 PM
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Logical fallacy - appeal to tradition. Just because something is new doesn't mean its wrong or bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 02:06 PM
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women are more likely to use antidepressants overall, but the studies showed after getting married, the chances of becoming depressed for women increased. Furthermore, one recent study revealed that 20.1% of married women suffer from severe depression [14]. On the other hand, another study found that depressive symptoms are 17.0% among unmarried women [15]. Depression status is not the same in different stages in women's life. Married women suffer more depression than unmarried ones... Source So…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 01:57 PM
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yes, and we need more of them when they're married.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 01:51 PM
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I think we're done, you're literally siding with nazi's.... bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 01:50 PM
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Biphobia sucks for everyone involved, never argued against that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 01:49 PM
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Shouldn't that apply to women who like gay content? Just make sure she doesn't have a soggy bodypillow lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 01:48 PM
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playgirl failed because they treated female sexuality as just the inverse of male sexuality. It's not. We don't just want to see hunks in compromising positions. Typically, we like some emotions tangled up in it. Even women who don't subscribe to the fujo lifestyle like spicy romance novels and movies. they like twilight, 50 shades of grey, A thousand years of longing, etc. All that being a fujo is, is we like a man in the place of Kristen steward. For the same reason men like lesbian content. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 01:47 PM
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should women similarly avoid men who consume lesbian content?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 01:37 PM
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i hate them because they stab vaginas. yet they're always in lesbian porn. make it make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 01:37 PM
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is there a version that has the conclusion not behind a paywall?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 06:52 PM
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Literally never happened https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/lebensborn-program lebensborn program argues otherwise. Also women in concentration camps were regularly raped. Right, fujos have never taken public figures or mascots or celebrities and pretended they're gay, never Yes so what? a few bad actors doesn't color the entirety of cultural movement. Especially when men are doing things like making deepfake porn of their favorite celebrities. It's outside the breadth of this thr…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 06:51 PM
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What's the use of bringing this up if you cannot provide the study?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 06:30 PM
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Funny you mention Auschwitz when lesbian's literally were sent to camps under the nazi regime same as gay men, when they were not literally being raped and forced to bear children for the nation. in more modern times, we also see similar rates of victimization of gay men and gay women. If you're using them explicitly to jerk off then yes, don't confuse gay themes in media with gay pornography Fujo applies to women who like anything Gay. some Fujoshi's like the spicier stuff but some like only th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 06:27 PM
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If I wear a short skirt is it also my fault when I'm raped?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 06:15 PM
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Most of the MxM content nowadays has homosexual characters. Japan is a bit further behind on the times having the "I'm only gay for you!" trope commonly in their content. But western media is a bit better about this, and overall it seems to be improving. Also, it should be said a lot of people do actually experience this. I didn't have any homosexual feelings for women until I met my ex, and after her I kinda mostly stick to heterosexual feelings. Our emotions can and do affect what sex we're at…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 06:14 PM
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No, people don't get to use their past as a reason to not have agency for their current actions. You can say it all you want but we've seen time and time again simply shaming and blaming mentally ill people for their self-destructive habits only pushes them further into isolation and the maladaptive behavior. Like, you think telling the heroin addict who uses to sooth his trauma from being raped as a kid needs to hear "Just don't do drugs. Take accountability!" Obviously, we should choose our pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 06:09 PM
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Not really, because you're just pretending lesbians aren't oppressed. There are benefits to being a lesbian that gay men don't have, and there are benefits to being a gay man that lesbians don't have. Both groups face violence, discrimination, and homophobia. I also have to ask, a lot of men also enjoy this media. So should it just stop existing even though many guys enjoy it too? Or should it be women should avert their eyes and not feel anything when BL comes across their page? plus how far do…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 06:03 PM
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It literally exists outside of japan right now. I'm an american fujoshi.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 05:54 PM
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Because if you're seeking out abusive relationships intentionally, you're most likely mentally ill or used to abuse. We should have grace for people who put themselves in toxic scenarios.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 05:51 PM
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Short term mating can be up to several months within a relationship. Can you help me find where the studies define short term this way? Have you read a single of the papers i posted? Most of them are missing methods and conclusions, locked behind a paywall.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 05:49 PM
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can you link the study you mention then?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 05:46 PM
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consumed by women. Produced for men. I know, because I watch these videos and half of the women have HUGE CHUNKY ACRYLIC NAILS. course, I do think it's getting less male gaze-y, which is nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 05:46 PM
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is that one of the studies you linked?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 05:44 PM
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Statistically, women become more depressed after getting married. So I'm not sure that's true for us as much as it is for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 05:44 PM
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i am not masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 01:33 PM
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short term, aka hookups. We already knew being confident, self assured, and vain helps get one night stands. But the topic at hand is if women seek out abusive relationships. Abusive relationships are typically not within one night stands. Not to mention, it's questionable if this is causation or correlation. Are women attracted to dark triad traits for short term sex? or are men with dark triad traits more likely to try things other men wont, thus leading to more success?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 01:32 PM
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so am I allowed to 'play the victim' when his record is clean and he still abuses me? because abuse is underreported already, if there was even a history of it before you anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 11:06 AM
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so you do a background check on all your dates ?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 11:00 AM
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For the same reason why you probably wouldn't be cool with a man forcefully SAing a woman in porn. You're putting a price tag and commodifying a situation that has led to people being killed and making it enticing. Im confused, wouldn't the real 1-1 in this scenario be lesbian porn? Why are we jumping to sexual crimes? Are any of the protagonists in your fujoshis hated by their family and looked at disdainfully by society, or is it always two Japanese high schoolers being "cute" together? It sho…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 10:57 AM
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how few dates do you get?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 10:40 AM
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why does the level of scrutinization of a sexuality matter when it comes to porn? also lesbians had similar issues as gay men in history. it's just not exactly the same. Google "corrective rape."
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 10:22 AM
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So is the culture in texas the same as in new york? we live in a melting pot. by your logic, that should be the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 10:20 AM
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Well if i'm being honest, i might be biased by how men treat me for my sexuality. So many decent guys get weird when i tell them my first relationship was with a woman. Then they suddenly start bringing up threesomes and asking me what I did with my ex. it's like they assume any woman who's been with women is hypersexual, and it's suddenly okay to literally treat me as a category on pornhub.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 10:13 AM
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i think yaoi definitely has more romance, typically. it also has more formats: audio cd, books, manga, animation, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 10:10 AM
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oh, so you're against the reverse too then? men consuming content about lesbians?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 10:09 AM
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are you gay? I'm sorry you had a bad experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 10:03 AM
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What's the difference between fetishizing gay content and just liking gay content, in your eyes?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 10:00 AM
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Well it feels a bit fucked to use a group of people for my porn but completely misrepresent them. I also feel like women appreciate more realism in porn when it comes to partner dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 09:58 AM
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i think it's a bit silly to think even with open borders we wouldn't have our own cultures and movements.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 09:56 AM
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So was gay sex. Fucking bestiality is a porn category. neither of these are a normalized part of male sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 09:49 AM
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we already knew people don't care about compatibility on hookup apps fam. Even if it was real, it doesn't do much for the point i'm trying to make, that in long term relationships women don't typically, intentionally choose abusers.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 09:44 AM
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yaoi means m x m, yandere just means sick love. so you could have sick love mxm. In regards to gender stuff, you could theoretically have a male futanari yandere yaoi as long as the futanari identified as male. damn this shit sounds like I'm casting a pervert spell.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 09:43 AM
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Mayhaps we don't blame ANY victims of abuse, including men?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 09:39 AM
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love when the redpill guys pull out shitty easily faked screenshots and wave them around like the golden tablets of joseph smith.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 09:38 AM
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my guy point out the hate. I'm just saying it how it is, that lesbians were a porn category for men before they were allowed to be married. while it's just as fucked up when fujos have similar mindset, seeing lesbians as sex objects is still heavily accepted in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 09:36 AM
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yandere yaoi? yeah it's one of my favorite genres because I'm chronically online.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 09:33 AM
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yet here you are writing a whiny little comment lol. You asked if it's realistic to be single for years while going to therapy, I say, yes, absolutely. It's better to be single than abused, and you do have the choice to be single or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 09:31 AM
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yaoi - gay men in fiction, typically for women. yandere - obsessive and possessive, typically for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 09:28 AM
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We're up to a good start yes, the frog thing isn't real. It's being used as a metaphor. I'm not actually trying to use frog biology to explain women. The point is, redpill claims we're ignoring signs, when many times there ARE none, at least not to us. We're acclimated to the abuse, suffering in the hot water until before we realize, it's boiling. If his name pops up in any sort of public criminal registry, Most people don't do this because while you're dating, you'd have to look up SO many peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 09:25 AM
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women who like gay shit. like how men watch lesbian porns. Opinions?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 09:19 AM
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what's this have to do with liking BL
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 09:18 AM
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Yes. that means you have to rely on a man, in the midst of sex, to have the wherewithal to perfectly pull out. it's 78% effective. which is shit compared to condoms, which I can check with my partner to see if he did it right. Can't really do that with pull out.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 09:16 AM
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I can definitely choose to be single.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 09:07 AM
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I think catching feelings is much more common with FWB than one night stands, which is what these studies are showing. I think in the short term, being aloof and cold and obsessed with your appearance would make you a good one night stand. Because of course I want a more confident, sure, attractive partner for that. that's common with psychopaths and narcissists. But for a partner? hell no.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 09:06 AM
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you don't think women fuck for the sake of fucking?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 08:56 AM
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idk why you're showing me this? I already know it. a 22% rate of failure is HORRENDOUS. not sure where you get the condom stat because the failure rate for them used correctly, is like 2%?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 08:55 AM
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no?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 08:48 AM
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why is being single such a bad idea. IDK if i have to choose between abusers and singledom, singledom is much much better.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 08:42 AM
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The discussion is over long-term relationships. that's typically where domestic abuse happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 08:41 AM
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I think incels are stigmatized, rightly so, for being associated with violence and misogyny. We stigmatize hate groups. There's a reason there's a page for them on the Anti-defamation league. Childless women face discrimination. pressure from family, judgement from strangers, it might even lead to workplace discrimination, because if an employer sees you don't have kids but you're married, the might not hire you on the basis of not wanting to pay maternity because the assumption is you WILL be p…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 08:40 AM
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It was hyperbole, but the point stands there are many things people swear by that are bullshit. If you need something more concretely proven, look to religion. I trust my own personal experience to guide me through life Well the issue with that is that in my personal experience women are extremely wary of "dark triad" types and are fearful of them. So either one of us is wrong, or one of us is lying. I just like either data or sound logic explaining a claim. nobody's provided either.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 08:30 AM
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spinster and cat lady are literally names for women who are adults without kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 08:27 AM
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They literally have short term in the title.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 08:26 AM
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Millions of men report the pullout method is safe too. are we literally basing our perception of fact on "individual experiences" ? get real.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 07:29 AM
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I think for this to be taken seriously as a data point, we'd need to actually examine each letter and ascertain: 1.) is the letter genuine loveletter (or is it just a letter, is it hatemail) 2.) the identity of each sender, and if they're of legal age 3.) if the woman is actually interested in acting beyond letters. So basically using him as fantasy material. 4.) how many letters are actually sent by men like this isn't a study. it's another anecdote.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 07:24 AM
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so guys also lie? or guys don't want to date hot nazis?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 07:19 AM
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Men will ignore red flags too. But they don’t lie about ignoring them as much. Do you think If i did a poll here, most redpill guys would admit they'd date a hot nazi? just curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 07:15 AM
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No it's not enough data points, because there's no methods or cross examination. It's really easy to confuse correlation with causation in these cases, I obviously trust science more. you will never get me to budge on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 07:05 AM
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Ahh look, whataboutism. Just trying to understand your stance. Are you not saying women uniquely ignore red flags? Or is the claim that both men and women ignore them in relationships? First you said that women don’t ignore warning signs because there are none. We were discussing in terms of dating and relationships, not hookups. I'll fully admit a lot stupid horny people care not for morals. But Why does the redpill try to claim this is a uniquely female issue? Now when you see that there are w…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 07:04 AM
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Provided it's all real, and most of the messages aren't scammers, do you think more men would swipe away put in a similar scenario?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 06:54 AM
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You don't have to rely on self reporting in that scenario, we could look at physical and psychological markers of sociopathy, criminal history, drug abuse history, question their friends and family, etc. Idk why you're asking me to trust word of mouth over studies. Even flawed studies are more useful "Well i think its this way because my cousin a town over said his brother's best friend's uncle saw this girl date a sociopath."
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 06:50 AM
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Studies have shown which studies?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 06:42 AM
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Tells me that it's easier to have a fantasy and write a letter, especially as a dumb teenager, than it is to actually in practice seek out and date these dark triad men. the letters are still anecdotes. it doesn't show actual trends in the wider population, and female killers also get fanmail. Gypsy rose got pregnant very soon after leaving jail.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 06:41 AM
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So women too afraid to leave abusers are "giving them a pass?"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 06:39 AM
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I don't see anecdotes as scientific. I prefer to look at actual studies. self reporting is always dodgy but we could study partners and see what percentage of paired men have dark triad traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 06:38 AM
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What makes you think they give those behaviors a pass?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 06:36 AM
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There's a difference between being a distinguished yuri enjoyer and the creep at the party asking you to kiss your best friend, or assuming all women are bisexual, or trying to use bi-women as a sex object to spice up their shitty marriage. similarly, there's a difference between being a distinguished yaoi reader, and being the creep who asks the gay guy who's the bottom in the relationship. It's all about respect and can you honestly say men have historically respected lesbians?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 06:36 AM
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I think "dangerous, unstable man" is a popular romance trope and women are socialized to romanticize it. But that doesn't particularly equate that in action, women are in general, attracted to dangerous or unstable men. What portion of these letters are genuine? What portion are sent by young girls who are, lets be honest are dumb little fucks as much as little boys? Not to mention, female killers also get male attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 06:29 AM
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Don't you think it's a bad idea to color all abuse victims because you had a traumatic experience with your mom?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 06:06 AM
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Do you think most women would tolerate a partner who clearly disrespects service workers? How do you figure, when that's a really common reason to end a date according to women, when polled?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 05:46 AM
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maybe I'm reading the tone wrong, but it came off as slightly antagonistic and not in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 05:45 AM
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My question isn't why fujo's exist. I am a fujo, i understand the appeal lol. I was wondering what the redpill thinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 05:32 AM
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I'm interested you don't mention how it could be dangerous to leave. Statistically, women in abusive relationships are most likely to die fleeing their abuser. do you think fear has a large role to play in why women stay longer?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 05:29 AM
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This is core to red pill. Women are actually attracted more to abusive men. It is well-documented that having dark triad traits (narcissism, psychopathy, Machiavellianism) makes you generally more attractive to women. Well documented as in, scientifically documented? or by anecdotes?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 05:25 AM
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So do you think most women in abusive relationships: 1.) miss the signs. willfully ignored the signs. 3.) there were no signs/she got slow boiled 4.)thinks abuse is normal
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 04:54 AM
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you think that most abusers do that though, in front of their dates? It's definitely a sign, and it would make me leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 04:51 AM
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Gym selfies are fine as long as they're not over the top gaston levels of flexing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 04:40 AM
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IMO a lot of times I pass guys who have all the "bones" of being attractive, but they don't put effort into their presentation. All their photos are in a car or bathroom, they do nothing to their hair, they're not smiling, they're wearing a marvel T-shirt and basketball shorts, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 04:40 AM
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Childish? A THOUSAND TIMES NO, IT'S SUCH AN ICK. Sweet? Love me a sweet, sentimental man <3
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 04:36 AM
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Is it not normal that some societies might have a cultural movement that other's don't? Japan had different ideas and gender before it was influenced by the west. They had men in drag, art and plays about homosexual love, a third gender "wakashudou," etc. So it makes sense that the idea of homosexual men was not such a surprise like it was to the west, where in most places, homosexuality was seen as aberration for most recorded history. Now that the world is connected, and homosexuality is more …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 04:34 AM
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I agree there's somewhat a problem with that, but I personally feel like there's been a lot of progress in passing years, especially with female authors being called out for unrealistic depictions of MM love.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 04:27 AM
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looking at romance novels, the main love interests vary between buff lumberjack types and sensitive soft boy types. I think given that, women are probably forgiving if you're not jensen ackles, as long as you're falling into the "sweet and sensitive" and not the "lanky, angry incel." category.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 04:24 AM
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im confused how autism is masculine, as an autistic woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 04:09 AM
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Does the "cat lady" insult not get tossed around in your circles often?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 03:45 AM
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You can't even look me in the eyes, haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 05:39 AM
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I don't think anyone intelligent should argue loneliness is okay. We know as social creatures humans thrive best with others. That being said, its annoying when men blame their loneliness on women. It's not my fault you don't want to be vulnerable.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 05:38 AM
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So im guessing 5'5?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 05:36 AM
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Apparently I have more than you, because you're a short man. The most disenfranchised minority on earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 05:33 AM
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Just curious, I'm 5'9. How many inches do I have on you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 05:31 AM
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ooh you brought out the big letters. Compensating?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 05:29 AM
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When your rights as a short, short, short man are legally impacted, then you will be on my level. Until then you're basically crying over issues men create for themselves. Why don't short men go to therapy? why don't they confide in their friends? You're making your insecurity my problem, while laws are literally turning my country into Gilead. Call me bigot all you like, you just make me laugh when you think your struggles as a little man compare.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 05:25 AM
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So proving my point entirely. Why should I hold space for your feelings when you don't respect my HUMAN RIGHTS.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 05:13 AM
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I will sincerely apologize if you tell me you're a feminist. :3c
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 12:30 AM
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Idk when I was in a relationship with a person who did this, it was less whiny and more like, he slowly tried to make me seem deceptive and unloyal if I didn't want to do it. It made me feel like I was at fault for not wanting it, like clearly it's normal and I'm the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 09:05 PM
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I classify a need as anything necessary to stay alive. so: 1.) Healthcare helps me stay alive. especially if my life is threated by illness and injury. So healthcare is not a need. 2.) social security could be a need depending on circumstance. Do you need social security to have housing, healthcare, and food as you age? then yes, it's a need. 3.) Welfare keeps people alive. So yes its a need for them. 4.) education. If you cannot earn a living wage at an entry-level job, then education is indeed…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 07:40 PM
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But if I am an employer running a tight team and a member gets pregnant and can’t work, what if I am in deep shit if I can’t find someone to replace them ? Education being mostly women, they deal with this problem often. they literally hire a Temp, typically paying less because they don't need as intense of an education as a temp employee? That's your job as an employer, you would have to do that anyway if a male employee was temporarily disabled. That could really negatively effect several peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 07:31 PM
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It's not a crime to verbally pressure someone into sex they don't want. And even if it was, you'd have to prove he did that, it would be a he said she said. Most women who complain about this, complain that they're pressured into extreme/scary/uncomfortable sexual acts. Not that consensual kinky sex just exists and is popular. On this subreddit, I've had Redpill men argue how it's completely normal to pressure your partner into anal/bsdm/name calling/etc, if she's done it with a different partne…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 07:24 PM
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we already established needs = things you need to survive. You do not need sex to survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 07:04 PM
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unless your opinion is asked it's considered an asshole move to specifically call a person unattractive. That's not a controversial take.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 04:40 PM
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Why does it matter that it takes longer if you still NEED it eventually!? all that means is the need can be delayed in some cases!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 04:38 PM
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The net result is what matter. Basic lawfulness and constitutional rights can’t be ignored obviously, but lowering exam requirements or hiring criteria for engineers because of the need to push others up is more what I’m talking about. Okay but in other areas you do agree in egalitarianism? So like, you agree with making laws opposing discrimination against women. for example, a law that protects a woman if she get's pregnant. Her boss can't fire her because she will need maternity leave and wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 04:37 PM
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Well, you don't need water and food because not having enough of them won't kill you Yes it literally will kill me if I don't get enough food and water. I don't see why it matters that I might need more than your examples. It's still a requirement for life regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 04:30 PM
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red herring.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 04:27 PM
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I have to feel you're trolling. You're mentioning african people don't need water, as you literally describe how they get water. You mention a man who didn't eat for a year, implying he ate after that year. Clearly, food and water are still needs, just in certain circumstances people may need less water or less food.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 04:26 PM
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Anybody would need medical intervention when their life is threatened, though. It's not unique to diabetics. The only thing that differs is how needs are addressed, which was never argued against.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 04:21 PM
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you can get non-sexual intimacy from friends and family.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 04:18 PM
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You don't see a difference between a woman sharing her dating preferences and men randomly calling a specific woman ugly, purely because they wanted to mock a movie they didn't like?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 04:11 PM
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What if i say the same and we both really love each other? SHe wants monogamy and i want an open relationship? People don't genuinely suffer if they can't fuck stranger. They do if their partner isn't loyal. So you should be monogamous if you really love her, if it hurts her that you aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 03:49 PM
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With the image on the right, what happens in reality is the fence is lowered and the man on the left has to kneel down, and then the ball players have to be more careful so as not to accidtally hurt the spectators. So for example, when they made it illegal in America to sexually assault your spouse in all states, thus making society more equitable, that "lowered the fence" and made things worse for everyone? It’s much easier to lower the bar to make quotas, So we should never try to make things …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 03:47 PM
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egalitarianism is not men and women are treated equally, but that they receive fair treatment. It's not saying men and women shoud be identical. https://preview.redd.it/rpyg3scojqhe1.png?width=600&format=png&auto=webp&s=23151e3a08a322c39940850e8bb9f01c1e77303d making women comfortable or making them feel safe isn’t something men have to do. women would have to do the same, cater to men’s feelings and sense of safety and inclusion and thats never going to happen. I feel like as a society we shoul…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 03:31 PM
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i love my gf with great intensity. I still lust for other women and have sex with them. I can also crush on other women and be in the attraction phase with them. If you really love her, you'd be monogamous if she requested it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 03:26 PM
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men don’t owe women, which is what you’re saying here Being a decent human being means we owe eachother respect and equal rights. When feminists say men can't be raped I tell them to shut the fuck up. When women say men don't feel anything I tell them they're wrong. When the goverment doesn't provide the same amount of support to single fathers as they do mothers, I vote hoping to change that. If you want an egalitarian and fair society, men do owe women the effort it will take to minimize discr…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 03:21 PM
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Loneliness is a prevalent and global problem for adult populations, and a number of different studies have linked it to multiple chronic conditions, including: heart disease, lung disease, cardiovascular disease, hypertension, atherosclerosis, stroke, and metabolic disorders, such as obesity and metabolic disease. Is a major predictor of psychological problems, such as depression, psychological stress, and anxiety. Loneliness is linked to overall morbidity and mortality in adult populations. htt…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 03:09 PM
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Bigoted against short men, truly the most disadvantaged minority...what a monster I am, not letting them fuck me!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 01:37 PM
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You're returning to arguments you've already made before, which tells me you're not really arguing with logic anymore. I think we're done.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 07:59 AM
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so everything we want is a need. That's what I'm hearing, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 07:50 AM
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My point was not that it’s bad, my point was that it’s looked upon by society as strange. So is being childfree. Having children is certainly not a need. It doesn’t matter if the dating apps are flawed and designed to make money, their very existence is proof of a human need. There are also apps dedicated to manga. Manga is a human need now?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 07:33 AM
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I don't see redpill men as normal. So I think it's obvious they think it's strange. but strange and okay to make fun of are two different things. Redpill men think childless women are strange. that doesn't mean being childfree is bad. the private sector they have a vested interest in keeping you single. They make flawed dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 07:24 AM
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this has nothing to do with the topic at hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 07:23 AM
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Well, Patrarchy has been around forever so you have to be able to address it. Men can address it. They can protest, they can treat women well, they can call out their fellow man when he's sexist--- they can do a lot. they simply don't. And no, because women have to fight for their own rights just as men do, that’s equal. Question, if tomorrow you woke up and saw that your country was trying to genocide a certain race, would you join me in a protest? Or would you say that everyone should fend for…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 07:22 AM
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I would look at the methods of how they determined it, and if it seemed sound, I would say it most likely is a need. I haven't seen any such studies like that though.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 07:12 AM
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No, female virgins are also looked as odd past a certain age if she is a still a virgin. Never seen anyone IRL care about an older woman's sexual history. people's autonomy outweighs We don't need to violate autonomy. Governmental assisted matchmaking and dating classes for anyone who consensually volunteers for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 06:55 AM
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why does society inherently view virgins as less than They don't view female virgins less than. only male. Wonder why? because in the patriarchy, women are sexual objects you can use to show your status. It has nothing to do with sex being a need. I think it's pretty commonly understood that romantic and sexual intimacy are felt needs then why is there no governmental push to assist adults in finding partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 06:49 AM
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I don't think sexual intimacy is a need beyond masturbation and our own personal fantasies.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 06:37 AM
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The things the lament is not consensual spanking and hair-pulling, it's when it's not consensual or portayed as such. in pornhub, you rarely see any discussion of safewords or how this is all wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 06:36 AM
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I prefer to use the scientific method. I don't prefer to listen to the "just trust me bro." I also know many men and women who are abstinent and they're fine, including myself. So if you're asking me to "figure it out" I would say I have.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 06:35 AM
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I've lost the plot on how this joe guy relates to men today. My point is if you're not helping fight the patriarchy, you're helping it. That makes you complicit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 06:31 AM
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It would depend on if they showed their process on discovering this and if it makes sense. So do you have a study or nah?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 06:30 AM
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You can get non-sexual intimacy from friends and family.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 06:29 AM
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Having a fantasy is different from wanting It IRL. The women who actually want it, will tell their partners, when they're not being shamed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 06:28 AM
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I think they mistake a want for a need.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 06:24 AM
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Friendship, non-abusive parents, a sense of belonging, acceptance, self-worth, your left arm, your right pinky. those have measurable negative outcomes we can uncover with studies and science. you haven't given me a study that shows measurable negative outcomes for not having sex. Only that sexual release is good for you, which can be achieved with orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 06:21 AM
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They've lead me right so far, so I trust them. Especially when I have family that lived through polio and the like, it's proven that life sucks without science. Also, if It was really something I felt was important, I could take the time to ask for the methods and prove it to myself. But I don't care that much about the sun. I do care about this, though. which is why I'm asking for a study, so I can look at how they conducted it and if that makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 06:18 AM
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Im saying women are honest. Plenty of women will tell you what they want. When we complain about violent sexual fantasies, we are talking about the dangerous ones, the ones that are not consensual.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 06:16 AM
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I'm not really interested in proving it. Other people have, and I believe them. Nobody has proven what Op claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 06:02 AM
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The purpose of a libido Nature doesn't have "purpose," like a manmade object. It just is. The same way the mouth may have a function, but that doesn't mean I'm using it outside it's "purpose" if I play the flute. For me, to determine that something is a need, I'd like to see a study that says sex is something people need to be happy, and it can't be replaced by masturbation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 06:00 AM
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Libido just points to the fact we reproduce through sex. Not that we need it to have happy, fulfilling lives. It does not mean another body has to fulfill this I didn't say you did.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 05:49 AM
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yes... we can prove that. We proved that a long time ago. Are you under the impression that the distance of the sun is like, under extreme debate?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 05:41 AM
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sexual activity - which includes things such as masturbation. Do any of these studies point to specific sex acts? because what I see mainly is positive links to sexual arousal and orgasm, both of which can be achieved without masturbation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 05:37 AM
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I'm not. but you're Implying it's not joe's fault if the elites are sexist, because he's not in control and he's stupid. I'm saying, is joe sexist too? Is joe speaking up and fighting for equal rights? in his own home at the very least, does he treat his wife and female relatives with respect despite the patriarchy? You're saying it's not the normal man's fault the patriarchy exists, and you're right, but you still contribute and keep it alive if you're not fighting.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 05:22 AM
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Needs to not require negative outcomes. Excuse me? How is it a need if there's no negative outcome? something that is necessary is something you have to have or there is an undesirable outcome. access this feeling of attraction, desire, and human connection this way, it affects their sense of loneliness and self-worth, as these are commonly seen as integral to the human experience. So much so that people who are not able to access this are looked down upon - "virgin" is used as an insult for a r…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 05:03 AM
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okay so what is the negative outcome of no sex if it's not something based in biology?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 04:50 AM
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We have done scientific studies showing physical declines in health when people don't have companionship. The same cannot be said for a lack of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 04:50 AM
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So because I used mean words I'm not owed equal rights, lol okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 04:43 AM
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I never said that women who have kinks are fetishizing. "I know a lot of women fetishize rough sex. I do." You literally say women who like rough sex are "fetishizing" it. You either don't know what that word means or you're not ready to admit your own internalized misogynistic tendencies. You shouldn't be judging any man on here. "Pick me! Pick me! please, please, please pick me!"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 04:42 AM
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All I'm saying there is "you're implying something is wrong with this, and implicating all women in the process, clearly because you hold a lot of shame. Don't pull us down because YOU have baggage." and this and this I'm not allowed to fire back when you keep insulting me ? No, stop calling me misogynistic and ill stop telling you to fuck off in more and more colorful ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 04:33 AM
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My comment wasn't an invitation for some random woman to shame me for my sexual experience. I already very kindly broke down my comment, literally nowhere did I shame you for your experience. I literally just asked why you're labeling women who have kinks as "fetishizing." Also this is an open forum. if you literally only wanted that one man to respond DM HIM. You are in the wrong here. You responded to a comment, that wasn't directed at you, with cruelty and dismissiveness. I Literally didn't. …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 04:29 AM
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the projection is real.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 04:23 AM
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Okay repressed ronda.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 04:17 AM
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Can you elaborate, I don't get your point My whole point is that women lie because the patriarchy forces them to. If you're saying you agree, are you saying the redpill is anti-patriarchy. I was talking about the red pill men in this context, and not about men in general, since you said "attacked by red pillers" Yes. Im saying if I post here to redpills, do you want to bet I won't be attacked? It's not about why women lie, it's about women just lying This is like crying about a papercut when you…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 04:17 AM
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Did your comment not literally ask to unpack your sexuality? You're just pissed I actually did by pointing out how you're basically villainizing women and yourself for having kink. You're putting women in a box where they're not allowed to have "problematic" fantasies or they're being "fetishizing." You are the one literally dismissing women's experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 04:13 AM
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You need to learn to read.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 04:04 AM
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I'll translate since you seem to have gotten it completely twisted: Idk what brainwashing you've been through "I don't know who has told you this or why you think this way" but it's not "fetishizing" "but it is not making anyone the object of a sexual fetish". to have a safe, sane, and consensual kink. "to safely and consensually have a kink, like the kink you mention (being submissive)" Do you get it now?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 04:03 AM
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Please stop taking your sexual frustration out on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 03:59 AM
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Then you have shit reading comprehension, because I literally told you your sexuality is normal as long as it's safe sane and consensual.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 03:57 AM
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Pretty sure you completely misunderstood my comment lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 03:56 AM
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you just did the same thing to me when I was honest about my sexual desires so stfu Girl I wasn't shaming you, you read the tone wrong. I asked why tf you're acting like being a normal human is "fetishizing." If anything I was VALIDATING YOU. Damn, read twice before you jump to assumptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 03:56 AM
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The red pill points out male stupidity So you're claiming the Red Pill is anti-patriarchy and feminist? Women are not attacked because they like those things Wanna bet? What do you think will happen if I make a post proclaiming I only date tall men?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 03:54 AM
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So you're saying sex is, in your opinion, a need. But you can't say if it's biologically, a need, like water, air, human companionship, etc. In that case, I will continue to say it's a want, if we're both just stating opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 03:50 AM
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Can you scientifically prove it's a need?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 03:39 AM
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Shaming, or not, women lie about what they're actually attracted to Because men force them to lie. That's what I'm saying. When women are truthful about what we want, we're called vapid at best, assaulted at worst. Nobody questions a man when he says he has a preference for big ass and big boobs, but when a woman says she likes tall men red pill RUSHES to attack her.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 03:38 AM
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Girl what are you trying to unpack? You didn't even ask a question you just telegraphed your shame over being a submissive. Idk what brainwashing you've been through but it's not "fetishizing" to have a safe, sane, and consensual kink.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 03:35 AM
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ah so being poor and uneducated means it's okay to be horrible to women. While we're at it, why don't we just give ol' joe the go-ahead to rape his wife and beat his kids. He's stupid and poor, we cant expect him to act like a decent person, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 03:22 AM
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When Joe Dirtboot perpetuates the ideas passed on by the elite and does nothing to help combat them, he is complicit. Especially when he's BENEFITTING from that arrangement.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 02:33 AM
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Slutshaming originated with religion. which was created by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 01:33 AM
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Wait so what's your point? You think he shouldn't be arrested?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 01:29 AM
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If the patriarchy associates masculinity within the small confines of sexual partners and tallness, then why would you blame a "matriarchy" which doesn't exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 09:28 PM
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When taking women's side is the fashion they'll do. That's my point! You're pointing to all these "privileges" women have that at the end of the day, amounts to lip service and meaningless gestures. As soon as they can, they switch back to misogyny, because they get power from keeping women in oppression. who is in control of education: women. Both in school and at home. Men create the curricula, men decide what education is necessary to be a teacher, men are usually the principals, and men teac…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 08:37 PM
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It's not off topic, you're the one who shifted the convo to women being shamed for saying no. If we are discussing why women are shamed, it's because of the patriarchy. that's why feminism is important to men as much as it is for women, because it effects MEN too. When the patriarchy blames rape victims for wearing "immodest" clothes, it implies men are animals which can't control themselves and have to commit crimes. If the patriarchy labels women who are sexual as sluts, it implies men always …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 07:16 PM
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that's literally the patriarchy as well. When women are lesser beings that are coded as non-sexual, that also puts men in a box, that they must all be hypersexual, always want sex, can't be raped, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 07:07 PM
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Pay gap The pay gap has a myriad of explanations that have nothing to do with sexism. Men and women choose different jobs and different jobs pay more. Yes, this is the crux of the paygap men love to ignore. You ever wonder why, magically, all jobs women take are low-paying? Newsflash, it's because any job that becomes saturated with women, starts to become PAID LESS because employers DON'T RESPECT WOMEN. j "Increased female representation in an occupation lowers wages for men and women." (link) …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 07:05 PM
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Men are the ones in most control of popular media, and they're the ones who perpetuate the myth that being ugly wont effect your chances.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 06:50 PM
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Well women are shamed, unlike men, if they have standards for physical appearance. we're called shallow if we don't let every manlet fuck lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 06:48 PM
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Trump on vetoing an abortion ban in October Another Another Febuary 5th - Trump’s Already Gone Back on His Promise To Leave Abortion to States (link) Fact-checking website denies Trump gives a shit about divorce Under Trump’s tax plan, divorces are about to get a lot nastier "President Trump’s tax plan unveiled this week will abolish tax deductions on alimony. This won’t impact people who have already agreed on their payment amounts but — assuming the GOP tax bill is passed by Congress — this ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 06:44 PM
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I'm 25 and I volunteer with kids. They have new weird words every day. It's just new slang, happens with every new generation. The reason you and I notice it is because we're no longer the young ones who are growing and using these new words. Women might be using these terms more than men because the feminist movement is becoming more popular as women feel more and more threatened by culture and political regime. A lot of your terms don't really relate to actual spiritual beliefs, they relate to…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 05:09 PM
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These girls are literally bi and are in denial lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 05:03 PM
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If we consider humans monogomous when they're in love, the explanation is probably then that men get with women they don't love, so obviously they want sex outside that partner. I feel men should just be honest though and tell their partner's they want an open relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 04:57 PM
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I heard that a lot of the more rapey theories of human evolution are now being challenged? Like, they found humans have large penises because they were sexually selected. That is, females chose the bigger males so much it became a trait of our species. that doesn't happen if our males where rapists for most of human history.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 04:54 PM
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so are they younger than you?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 04:51 PM
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I'm sure they do like it, my point isn't that they don't want consensual kinky stuff, it's that they don't want to be abused and men can't tell the difference. Slapping me after I ask you to, with a safe word in place in case its too much = Sexy, hot, kinky slapping me over and over after I ask you to stop multiple times and you pretend like it's my fault for asking for kinky sex = assault
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 04:50 PM
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so how are you hearing women say these things? If you're online well, it's because you're online. People use internet slang more often on tiktok and such.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 04:48 PM
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I mean it's a well-regarded educational theory too. Intrapersonal intelligence is what it's called.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 04:47 PM
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I mean I believe it but not as a magical thing or whatever. Vibes are the gut feelings you get about a man. Sometimes they can be wrong but really, a lot of women trust their gut because your mind can subconsciously pick up on people who are unsafe or mean you harm.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 04:46 PM
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not shifting the goalposts if its true? most women don't or at least don't seriously believe in aura.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 04:44 PM
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are you dating women your age?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 04:43 PM
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Men literally created the patriarchy, which created slut shaming. If you're saying women wont take ownership of liking BDSM and the like, then you need to take ownership of the face MEN made them ashamed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 04:34 PM
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men having to be older than women to get their state pension source? because when I look that up I get stuff from the UK, which says they have the same age... but you can't act like on the surface patriarchy doesn't quote on quote "benefit" women sometimes. Like how it used to be they would refuse to prosecute women, or how there's still a perception female predators just had "relationships" with their male victim. Those things happen strictly because society sees women as lesser and delicate.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 04:31 PM
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its literally about to be. Trump has said he wants to federally ban abortion as well as divorce and birth control. He literally wants to make us the y'all Qaeda
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 04:10 PM
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Dude what do you call being attracted and getting off to the same sex? This is straight up denial at that point lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 04:01 PM
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So morals are legally enforceable now?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 05:58 AM
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If its dead why do I still have men acting like I'm leading them on when I don't fuck them for being kind?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 05:58 AM
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If a woman is miscarrying and refuses medical treatment so it completes, is she killing a person by not helping it have continued access to her body?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 05:35 AM
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Hey! it's me, your long lost child. BTW, i need your kidney. Oh, you don't want to invasively and permanently alter your body to keep me alive? But you don't get to choose how your body is used, if it means keeping someone else alive, right? Right. Glad I could clear that up for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 05:34 AM
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I have literally never met a single prochoice conservative.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 05:31 AM
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No. I genuinely believe I would be risking my wellbeing dating a conservative man. I want someone who sees me as an equal partner in a relationship. Miss me with that "men lead their wives" bullshit. Also conservative men are 8/10 hella religious, coming with all the religious baggage, yet they always want to fuck on the first date. Make it make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 05:30 AM
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I really don't understand why men act like sexism is over when we're still experiences shit tons of issues still, like the pay gap, women still expected to be primary caregivers while also working, bodily autonomy being stripped, invisible labor, medical discrimination, birth control responsibilty, etc. We even see that medications are not tested on women, they're only tested on MEN, leading to complications in us that is ignored. Sexism is far from over. Women aren’t fighting to end slut shamin…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 05:18 AM
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yes and who put it in their heads that it was acceptable? who was it who ruled the world for most of history, and established the status quo? And which gender actually is fighting to end slutshaming? Men wont even make their girl cum, much less fight against the patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 04:56 AM
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Being kind is like being clean. It's very tied to being sexually attractive, but only because it's a MINIMUM REQUIREMENT for most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 04:54 AM
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I've seen MEN perpetuate this myth more than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 04:51 AM
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Okay but the people perpetuating the myth that kindess = sex is men! Men are the ones making the movies where the fugly nerd gets the cheerleader through the power of super duper kindness. They're making the shows where the fat ugly dad gets the hot mom because he has a heart of gold. they're making the reality shows where women are shamed for being shallow when they dont want the ugly dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 04:51 AM
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women that desire it and aren’t being honest. If that's the case, would you agree that men constantly slut shaming women is primarily causing this issue? Shouldn't the title of the post then be "Women are forced to be ashamed of their sexual preferences?"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 04:35 AM
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There's a stark difference between men who like consensual kinky stuff, and men who want to do violent sex acts, and don't take no for an answer well. the latter is what we're talking about. Even in this sub, I've ran into guys who say that if I did a sex act for a past partner, I have to do it for my current partner. even if that act is scary/painful/unpleasurable for me. They insist that it's "unfair." this entitlement is what women are really complaining about.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 04:27 AM
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Uhh I'm bisexual and I have to say if you're watching gay porn you're at least Bi.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 04:25 AM
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I'm pretty sure the lamentation isn't that men have fantasies, it's that they try to force it on us when we don't want to. Like, Plenty of women like BDSM. But talk to any BDSMN subreddit and there will be throngs of women ready tell you a story about a man who took it too far without consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 04:24 AM
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There are gay incels lol. Also, you might need help attracting the right kind of man or dating men safely, as a gay guy, right? but we could flip it. Lesbians should get help attracting women, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 03:57 PM
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Why, when homosexuality is perfectly normal, conversion therapy is ineffective, and it leads to the person typically becoming traumatized?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 03:55 PM
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Just wondering, If their son comes out as gay they should also help their son attract men, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 08:09 AM
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Then the concept of an "equal partner " should be a myth . People want someone who puts in equal effort. Plus why shouldn't you be as egalitarian in a relationship Both partners can be equally contributing in effort even if one is making more money. If my partner makes more and works more, I don't mind stepping up with chores. But if we are both putting in the same amount of effort and time at work, why shouldn't we both return that energy in the home?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 03:47 PM
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Older infants >6months Lol okay regardless, the 4 month olds need to eat, bestie. You literally raised the point of breastfeeding and pregnancy to prove that women and men are doing equal work . You wanted to go tit for tat and i simply offered alternatives No my point is that its stupid to try and make thing equal, because it's always debatable what equal is. There will always be hidden things you could be doing that makes you a "bigger contributor." Most women want a partner, not a manager, wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 09:20 AM
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Older infants can have more soft foods 4 month olds shouldn't eat anything but milk, and they can drink up to 35 ounces per day. Plus there are infant formulae to buy or donor milk . So many options Like there are alternatives to housework? like buying a maid service and chef and gardener, etc? The point isn't that women are doing something that can never be substituted, but obviously most people will use breastmilk because its free when its from your own tits. so instead of being so tit for tat…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 09:10 AM
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why is it outside the home that matters? Why is the work inside the home not taken into account? An older baby can drink around 32 ounces of milk a day. Each ounce costs around 5$. So if your wife is breastfeeding your baby every day, are you going to be doing $175 dollars worth of housework?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 08:51 AM
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Who is saying this? The prevailing opinion, overall, is you SHOULDN'T date someone you'd only be happy with if they changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 11:52 PM
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Then isn't dedication dependent on whatever my vows are? If I say "I can't wait to be your wife, I promise to do my best by you." then I could still divorce, because subjectively I could consider that I tried my best and it didn't work out.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 10:57 PM
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There's no difference between bisexual women and straight women since the results are the same Not really, since the bisexual women are sleeping and having sex with women when they're not in relationships. Also, you just going to ignore lesbians? Higher domestic violence rates, higher divorce rates, lesbian bed death, you could also imply that their relationships are physically unhealthy due to the fact they're more likely to suffer from chronic illness. Most of that could be attributed to livin…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 10:55 PM
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the majority of the so called bisexuals end up in straight relationship So? What does that have to do with anything? Also if you consider the stats lesbians don't really work. how don't they work? What stats are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 05:20 PM
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How do lesbians work, then?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 04:05 PM
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I was under the belief that your stance was that women don't feel lust. So what is your stance?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 03:32 PM
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So you think 5% have sexual desire, every other woman is asexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 02:41 PM
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So then you're saying only a small percentage of women feels sexual desire, and everyone else is asexual, even though asexuality is incredibly rare?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 02:38 PM
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I will when you can quantify dedication.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 02:10 PM
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Did you miss the part where I explain that erotica in general is written by women?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 02:04 PM
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6,108,734 works on ao3 are M/M, 1,414,797 of which are categorized as explicit. There's also 116,102 works tagged with Cunnilingus, 84,839 tagged creampie, 571,533 tagged BSDM, and 2,280,823 overall explicit stories, not counting the mature or untagged ones. So considering that M/M romance is primarily written and read by women, and erotica in general is typically written and read by women, how can you claim that women don't feel lust? These aren't small numbers. ao3 has over over 8 million regi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 01:55 PM
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Can you explain why MxM erotica, BL, and yaoi exists?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 01:21 PM
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I think it would change nothing, because we know that both sexes are motivated by sex. People just want to pretend women desire it less. We don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 12:56 PM
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What do you mean by unlikely? you don't think women lust?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 12:54 PM
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IDK. Maybe my view will change when I feel true real love. But as it stands I think it's best for everyone to not force something that's not working.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 05:40 AM
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I feel like rather than do all that, I could just live the way I want and cut out all the men who "resent" me for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 05:07 AM
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Lol and red pill men wonder why they're not attractive to women, when they're literally admitting they see marriage as some kind of cold contract instead a promise two people IN LOVE make.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 05:02 AM
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You apparently feel a bit of guilt over the idea since you’re so adamant of defending this case. It seems to me you want to be convinced you don’t have to feel guilty for it. It's just frustrating to be told I'm a terrible person for saying I wouldn't trap myself in a loveless marriage. I’ve already responded to that question multiple times. Both parties need to figure out what they can do to bring that love back, what happened, where’d the spark go, why did you feel that spark and no longer do …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 05:01 AM
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because they love eachother?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 03:57 AM
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certain men choose to date and marry in more traditional countries. I don't think there's anything wrong with that, but very often men don't actually want to respect the culture of the women they're dating, or the actual structure of a traditional marriage. Still remember posts from the passport bro reddit where they were calling women gold diggers for expecting men to pay for everything and take all the initiative. like yes, that's what being a traditional man is. you need to prove you can prov…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 03:00 AM
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I think it's important to be realistic. Unconditional dedication is nice in theory, but really you need to think what will actually make you both happy. if you are going through a rough patch and you have faith it will end once you work through it together, stay together. But what's the use of keeping a commitment that makes you both miserable, that you know cannot be solved? Or are you implying it doesn't matter if one partner is miserable? All that matters is that the promise is kept?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 02:44 AM
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nature, their personality, the vibes you feel with them. to me it just sounds like you're saying personality over and over. People don’t flip into entirely different people just one year. Doesn't have to be a year. sometimes you can slowly change over time. This is why a lot highschool sweethearts and young marriages don't work out. You're changing so much as a person that the relationship doesn't work anymore. It's also possible for me as a person to change, and with it what I value in a partne…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 02:38 AM
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It sounds like you valued your ex more for his character than actually caring about him for him. He was a crush, not an Ex. And yeah, what do you suppose should happen if I fall in love with one personality, and then that personality radically changes? If we aren't meant to love people for who they are, why are we meant to love them? Just because? Because I'm a woman and he's a man? That's shallow and upsetting. I’d still love her and wouldn’t be upset with a lifestyle change. There's a differen…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 11:41 PM
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NGL I kinda get it. Male tummy is like, addictive. I always wanna poke and sleep on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 11:20 PM
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Is that how you treat your friends? You just toss them out when you’re bored of them, or the friendship for whatever reason becomes less intimate (non-sexual)? I platonically love my friends. So yeah, if I stopped loving them, they're not my friends anymore. It's happened multiple times where I just lose contact with someone because we grow apart. I wish them well but part of being adult is letting go of relationships that don't bring joy to your life. Do you force yourself to be miserable in re…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 11:17 PM
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really, really unfortunate, but I learned it from a case where a man was arrested for having like 6 terabytes of CSA content on his computer. I was like "ew that's horrible" until I looked up how many videos and photos can be kept in a terabyte, and I instantly knew I wished crushed class jar in anus upon him.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 11:04 PM
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I'm just facing reality. Sometimes the person we thought we wanted to be with forever isn't who we actually end up wanting to be with. I'm not a vole, I don't imprint on the man I marry, I can fall out of love. Again, what do you suppose the solution is if I've fallen out of love, and there's no working through it? don't you think it would be cruel to pretend things are fine when clearly, the marriage is dead? You don't think my husband would notice me being less affectionate, not wanting sex, n…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 11:01 PM
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Would you prefer a marriage were we aren't in love and my husband is basically a glorified roommate?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 10:24 PM
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I mean yeah so what? That's the nature of relationships. You can't really say someone should or shouldn't be in one, because you're not them and you don't know the dynamic of the relationship or what's going on internally.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 09:49 PM
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Idk I wouldn't want to be in a marriage that was just a loveless commitment. It's one thing if my spouse has done nothing to try and salvage the romance but if theres nothing to salvage i don't see why I would want to stay married to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 09:38 PM
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Still irrelevant to if porn is realistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 07:05 PM
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in my life I wouldn't mind my BF watching porn, but watching porn keeping a terabyte of ass and boob on your computer feels different.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 07:02 PM
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haha hell no I don't want redpill men trying to attack my books on goodreads. If you need recommendations though, I really enjoyed Lily Mayne's series starting with Soul Eater, The Scum Villain's Self-Saving System series, and Little Mushroom, Judgement Day book 1 and 2. Little mushroom is probably most likely to appeal to a male reader. Soul Eater would probably appeal to a female reader. SVSSS can go either way, imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 06:58 PM
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You think it's more realistic for men? You know those porn actors have to take multiple breaks, take Viagra, and sometimes they even shoot on different days with different people and just crop the video together. The only exception to this would be the "home videos" you can find occasionally. But even then there are pornstars who pretend to be amateurs and infiltrate this space too.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 06:52 PM
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okay so you prefer older women?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 06:48 PM
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okay so you prefer older women?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 06:48 PM
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I write BL in the modern day, and it's gotten a lot better. A lot of us have listened to our gay audience and asked what they'd prefer to change. Today looking at my stats, I have a sizable male audience for my books.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 06:28 PM
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Can you share what's considered above average then?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 06:08 PM
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Ah, yes. An IUD effectiveness rate of < 1%, and an implant rate of 0.1% = "birth control fails all the time." You don't like it? Then don't have sex. Provide evidence when making such claims as men tampering with condoms (and certainly not more than women). have you ever seen an IUD inserted? Picture getting sounded. it's so painful some women say it's as bad as kidney stones. Plus IUD's can dislodge and PEIRCE the uterus. there's plenty of women who come onto reddit finding out their BF was put…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 06:06 PM
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That's irrelevant to if porn is realistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 05:53 PM
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Okay well same goes for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 05:52 PM
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A GF is just a friend you fuck. So really what's the difference between having some friends and spanking the hog occasionally?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 11:14 AM
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Not a good example. For romance or erotica. Why not? Like, it's not written well, but it's still considered an erotica. Not all relationships apply to others. Like 50 shades of grey So what exactly makes porn applicable to everyone in the way erotica can't?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 10:52 AM
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I think you watch too much porn if you think she's average or below average...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 10:50 AM
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You just replied to me in another comment how you can't get turned on by erotica because it's "hateful garbage." So which is it, you can be turned on by erotica or it's hateful garbage?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 10:43 AM
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you want to be dominated by our fucking boss and his gang of covert drug dealers. This is such a specific scenario lol. You act as if porn doesn't have cuck scenarios, criminal characters, boss x secretary storylines. I peruse both and I see cheating scenarios more in porn than in my books. literary smut world is filled with hateful garbage like that. I'm not sure if you are like, basing your ideas of erotica on goodreads or what but there's SO much variety, and that's not even counting smutty f…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 10:41 AM
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birth control fails all the time. Or worse, men tamper with BC. Conservative states are also trying to make it harder to get BC. The wage gap is a proven myth It's a fact that female dominated jobs are paid less, and when women migrate to a new job, those jobs ALSO become less well paid. also the wage gap isn't a myth. Please prove me wrong but women still make 80 cents to a man's dollar, worse if you're a minority. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/20/upshot/as-women-take-over-a-male-dominated-fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 10:26 AM
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You forget that in the comment you're quoting, I'm talking about women who want to be STAHM. So obviously, they need a partner that can provide for them. Women overwhelmingly tend to not respect men who make less than them, don't marry men who don't make a lot of money when they're able to (get away w/ it), and practically no woman will intentionally enter a marriage knowing they are the breadwinner and the husband is a SAHD. 1.) Personally I don't exclude men who make the same as me, as long as…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 09:10 AM
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Idk maybe you haven't seen it but I have. I've seen men deep in abusive marriages scoff when you mention divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 06:55 AM
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since women are the main consumers of erotica, most erotica does have a detailed romance plot. What makes erotica erotica is just the detailed inclusion of sex, and that sex is a main draw. 50 shades of grey is an erotica. He'd be reading about another couples relationship If we are discussing which can teach you more, erotica can teach you more about foreplay and more about being in a relationship, 80% of the time. Just by the virtue that it's longer and more detailed than porn has the capacity…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 06:25 AM
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yes, you can make friends and have meaningful relationships outside of romance.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 06:22 AM
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Same reason why rape victims are often hypersexual and consume content with rape fantasy in it. It's our way of processing it and unpacking how we feel about living in an unsafe world. Typically, its not usually an example of how we want to be treated in real life. Think of a popular trope in romance, enemies to lovers. I don't think many women want to date their enemy but there's something interesting about the concept. Probably because in real life, women are often pitted against men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 02:59 AM
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Who said I expect men to be the breadwinner?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 01:49 AM
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I don't think I make enough money, so no. But in the circumstance where I made enough for that, absolutely. The thing is with me, I hate having to work then come home and clean. So I'd rather do one or the other. It would be heaven if I had a house husband, and I could come home to my kids fed and watered, home spotless, and food hot and ready.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 12:41 AM
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Looks being a factor isn't the same as "going for looks." Personally I don't date men I find unattractive, but I turn men down every day on the 8-10 scale because they're all conservative and dicks. So it's not like my only quantifier is looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 12:36 AM
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Men also date women who will hit, scream, and financially abuse them. Being a victim isn't a choice, 99.9% of the time. A lot of times people don't recognize this behavior is abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 12:30 AM
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Cristy ren
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 12:02 AM
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I think that makes sense because in the real world women are expected to tolerate and anticipate violence from men, while men are told over and over not to harm women. So women internalize it in our erotica, because it's an especially safe space to unpack those feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 11:59 PM
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TBF most porn is highly manufactured. even the "amateur" stuff has acting and scenarios that aren't very realistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 11:57 PM
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So you like the sexual stuff to start quick, and the romance to be a side plot then. Do you read fanfic or is it mostly kindle?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 11:38 PM
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So basically, porn with no plot smut?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 11:35 PM
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There still has to be a purpose to it. I feel like it being entertaining should be enough of a reason to consume it. What's he going to learn from a book that he can't get from a visual? I mean I'd assume that because the erotica is longer than porn, he might learn more about foreplay and possibly even how to act after sex or romantically. Like most of the erotica I have read spans over months or years, so it's more than just the sex part and done. How actually useful that info is would probably…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 11:20 PM
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Yes, which is what im arguing. If you want a prenup, that should also involve you promising any SAHM you will provide for them for life or at least, until she can get a full-time job/education
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 10:51 PM
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Uh, neither porn or erotica is mean to "help you." this is why people who watch too much porn are infamously bad at sex, for men they think that, like in porn, you can insert right away, pound her for 8 minutes, and she'll cum so hard she squirts across the room. the purpose of porn and erotica is just to stimulate you when you don't have a partner or you don't want to have sex for some reason. Like, you can find both porn and erotica with more realism and that might help you a little but for th…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 10:47 PM
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what kind of erotica do you read?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 10:20 PM
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the example you mention is an actively sexual scenario with another partner involved. I mean to say a lot of men don't consider it arousing to read about sex alone, without anyone else involved. Men buy erotica much less often than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 10:20 PM
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By that logic men assume the responsibility of paying for a woman's livelihood for the rest of her life when he agrees to be the primary breadwinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 08:58 PM
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You keep saying what it isn't but not what it is. So what is it? Because it can't just be a responsibility, because women have no inherent responsibility to be a SAHM. They can just as easily work and buy everything necessary to raise their kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 08:51 PM
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If it's not a job, then what is it? a hobby? Why do we pay people to do it then? Wow, where’s my money for mowing the lawn? I hear people get paid to do that…I sure am owed something by my partner now.” Are you not owed something for helping maintaining the home? I would assume in return for that, your partner also provides something that helps keep the family running like cooking dinner or cleaning the living room. Also if maintaining the lawn was a full-time job for 18+ years and you were unab…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 08:48 PM
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I think it's just men don't actually see women as having sexual fantasies as much as them, so they never stop to consider how we consume erotic content. I know one of the men I was dating thought it was uniquely a quirk of mine that I read and wrote erotica. He said he'd never dated anyone who'd done that. He was also confused when I asked if he'd ever dated anyone who enjoyed 50 shades of grey. "yeah but that's just a book." That is to say, men don't consider spicy book as equal to porn. a lot …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 08:42 PM
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Why am I not allowed to consider it work? I'm literally saving you money by doing what other people are paid big bucks to do. Not to mention, I could do the bare minimum, ordering out food, only cleaning enough to keep CPS at bay, never tutoring or educating the kids. Being a true homemaker is work. it's a privilege, sure, but so is HAVING A SAHM AS A WIFE. Women are not obligated to bring all these benefits to her family!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 08:36 PM
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If you're fine with the gamble it's your life. But it should also be respected when a woman wants some insurance, since being a SAHM benefits everyone in the family, not just women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 08:32 PM
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By that logic, it's infantilizing to advocate for prenups when... men choose to get married when he didn't need to. while their man makes all of the money she benefits from. did you forget the man heavily benefits from this scenario too? Look at how much a private chef, housecleaner, daycare, and private tutor costs. Tell me he's not saving money unless the wife had access to a very high-paying job she decided not to pursue.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 08:30 PM
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They could have negotiated better terms…but they didn’t. My point is most women are negotiating better terms, and men are pissy about it. they want the 1960's housewife that risks it all because that's "traditional." Do you know how roundly mocked men are for even wanting to be a homemaker? Probably because most the men who are most outspoken about wanting a homemaker are also really sexist and degrade women who want to work. I mean like, in real life the normal guys bring it up as an option. on…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 08:28 PM
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because abortion is healthcare, not just a way to have consequence free sex. Of course we care about it. Men on the other hand, literally use their need for sex to justify doing and saying horrible things. You're allowed to want intimacy, you're not allowed to say that sex is a human right and women are depriving it from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 08:22 PM
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If women are just adults, then let them adult without asserting that women are entitled to insurance. I don't see how its infantilizing to say women are entitled to insurance when they take on a risk they don't have to. You're also here arguing for insurance for men, in the form of prenups! How is that different?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 08:13 PM
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Not every rape victim wants to go through a trial just so they don't have to carry their rapist's baby. It's extremely traumatizing to go through a rape, then having to deal with going through an entire trial? possibly losing friends and family members if your rapist is a respected member of the community? Also, there are circumstances where a woman doesn't know she's been raped. I had a friend in highschool who got black out drunk, and her male best friend took her home. She didn't know he rape…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 08:12 PM
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Nobody is saying that women are forced to be homemakers. Hell, if I met "Mr. right" next year I would jump at the chance. But if we are discussing prenups, prenups prevent alimony payments. So what I'm saying is men are entitled to prenups, but STAHM are entitled to something on that prenup giving her insurance. I do believe if she quits an actual career to be a SAHM I’d agree with you that she should be entitled to a fund, but otherwise alimony if applicable is enough. If not, get a career and …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 08:07 PM
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That's really good for her, and the outcome that should happen if you were the homemaker. Unfortunately that's not how it works out for everyone, especially if you had a prenup and you divorced after the kids became independent.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 08:03 PM
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What did you think my position was exactly? that women are forced to marry, forced to gestate, forced to be homemakers? what is this, Gilead? bro you didn't "prod" me into conceding, it was always assumed women who choose this path, should get some recompense. Otherwise most men should assume that they won't have a homemaker. I'm not sure how it's coddling to not want women living under bridges, because they divorced their abusive husband after 18 years of being a housewife.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 08:00 PM
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If the woman can choose not to be a homemaker, then I don’t see the issue with the man not offering insurance. Nobody is saying this should be a legal requirement, just that if you're not providing insurance, prepare to have a working wife. your opposition to that choice not to offer insurance is that you believe women would still accept the offer to be a homemaker. your wording is confusing but I think in the modern age, being a homemaker is already rare, so it's going to be difficult to convin…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 07:55 PM
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, let’s say a man “refuses” (instead of chooses not) to offer the woman who is in a relationship with him, who wants to be a homemaker, insurance for if the relationship doesn’t work out… It’s the woman’s choice to take it or leave it. If it’s still worth the risk to her, and she accepts, then that’s her choice. I mean yeah, if she chooses to take on that risk knowing her husband doesn't want to provide that insurance, she's an adult woman and can do what she likes. However, I'm seeing more and …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 07:53 PM
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It's mutually beneficial but the woman is sacrificing more than the man here, which is why she's entitled to insurance. If they ever divorce, she will have 0 work experience, education, or connections to help her get a job. being a homemaker is voluntary, but so is asking for your wife to be a homemaker. If you don't want to pay for the insurance then just marry a woman who wants to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 07:49 PM
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It's impossible to "only" let rape victims abort. How do you look at a pregnancy and decide "ah yes, clearly, this fetus was conceived by rape lets abort it?" Rape babies look exactly like consensual sex babies lol. how would that even work legally anyway? I'm just trying to illustrate that sex is clearly real important to women too, otherwise the abortion issue would be mostly a nonissue. Women wanting to have sex with their partner's is different from what the original commenter was saying, wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 07:46 PM
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I mean many men literally request their wives become homemakers. In doing so she's saving her family a TON of money as well as providing them with a really unique and valuable experience not everyone gets. It's a privilege for the woman, sure, but it's also a privilege for the man in this equation. So you should be paying her and making sure she feels secure in this scenario. If you don't want to, that's fine. But then you better be making peace with marrying a career woman, none of that "you're…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 07:37 PM
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Nah if you're asking me to take a huge leap of faith, you need to provide insurance. If you're not willing to, then it's your fault when the kids are raised by strangers and the home is cleaned by maids. Men can't complain about women having careers in one breath then refuse to provide security to their housewives in another.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 07:34 PM
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Most of the women that become stay at home moms usually never had a career to sacrifice. It’s usually retail or other dead end jobs. Regardless that time she spent raising kids could have been put towards getting a degree or some kind of bluecollar job. Instead, she's willingly sacrificing years she could be filling her resume to bring a huge benefit to her family.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 07:31 PM
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A lot of men want their wives to be a homemaker. All I'm saying is if you want that, you should give her some insurance so she's not left under a bridge if you divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 07:30 PM
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i feel like Sex robots will be really expensive even when we have the technology. Like, it's kinda like saying electric vehicles could fix the traffic crisis. yeah maybe but only if everyone has enough money for it. also if men have sexbots, women will too. So any man who wants an actual relationship will have to compete with connor from cyberlife with a vibrating boner attachment.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 07:28 PM
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Did you forget that rape exists, bucko?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 07:16 PM
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Is it that your idea is being censored because its true? Or is it being censored because of the "nazi bar" idea? The nazi bar story goes, a man meets a nazi in a bar and they have a debate. The man says "well its a free country, we can talk about your views!" The next time the man comes, he's shocked to find that the bar is full of nazi's. He asks the bar tender and he says "Well the bar became known for tolerating nazis. So all the non-nazi's left." That is, redpill is offensive, insensitive, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 07:14 PM
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Definitely a deal breaker. Being able to read is a minimum requirement as a sign of intellect. You can also tell what kind of person someone is because of their favorite books
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 07:05 PM
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I'm fine with prenups as long as men are fine with automatically depositing money, regardless of current marital status, into any home-maker's bank account for the rest of her life. For too long men have had "insurance" but when the housewife gets divorced she's just supposed to go make money after sacrificing 18+ years and having a huge gap in her resume just to raise your kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 06:57 PM
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I can't speak for everyone, but growing up I took a lot of cues from popular media. It was often portrayed that the dorky MC had a heart of gold, and the pretty popular girl who won't date him is a villain because she's shallow and can't see past his unattractive appearance. It made me give a lot of guys a chance when I didn't actually feel attracted to them, because I assumed they must have a good heart. Turns out, ugly dudes are just as likely to mistreat you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 09:30 PM
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I think that's just your libido lowering as you get older.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 03:27 PM
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Why are you bringing it up then? I didn't ask if you had normal sex. Having normal sex isn't your "morals changing" it's you literally just being too dumb to use common sense. We already knew men do stupid things for sex. But since you agree rape is disgusting and wrong, then you must also consider it disgusting and wrong to similarly, lie your way into the bed of a woman. I'm not talking about just being suave and charming, but intentionally deceiving her and promising her things you don't inte…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 03:26 PM
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How is a man in critical field less of a cog than a woman who makes future citizens? Both are important enough to spare from war, men are just less so. Men have to prove themselves worthy with an important job, while women just exist and are inherently too valued to risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 03:19 PM
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Women ran society. We had all the most important jobs that were formerly only employed by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 03:16 PM
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Dude. You raped her. You are a rapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 02:46 PM
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Op is positing women are the superior gender. This person is positing that this is only true during peacetime. I'm just reminding him that during war, men are still less valued, because they're not as important as women they're protecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 02:45 PM
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for running society while men are the cannon fodder.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 04:43 AM
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How much of that is because they're not fit or willing, and how much of that is because they are being harassed and raped by their male colleagues? Sexual assault is rampant in the military. When LaVena Johnson was found dead, bloodied, bruised, with corrosive chemicals on her genitals, and her death was ruled suicide by the military, I wonder why women don't stick around.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 04:23 AM
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Women are more valued in wartime then men. That's why men are sent to die and women aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 03:28 AM
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I literally asked for your opinion on removing a condom or deceiving women. you changed the topic each time so I have to conclude it's because of a guilty conscious. Be better.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 10:59 PM
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Or more likely, you've been doing horrible shit to women and now you're avoiding someone who is making you realize how big you fucked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 09:01 PM
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This line of twisting things would be considered victim blaming and gaslighting in any other scenario. except there's no victim in this scenario. If I dislike scars am I a victim when my new BF takes his shirt off and I find he has a scar on his chest? Did he manipulate me by wearing shirts all this time? no. I had an expectation and now the reality is in my face. I'm not a "victim," Nobody is forcing me to be with this man. And if having or not having a certain feature is so so important to me,…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 05:38 PM
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okay since you're claiming facts are relevant here please cite the study you mentioned that shows men change their morals while they're horny, leading them to rape women whereas normally, they wouldn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 04:20 PM
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I don't use makeup or wear bras lol. But I assume that me wearing a baggy shirt or sweater is manipulative too, since you can't tell the shape of my breasts that way? Should I wear bikinis only for your security so you know who does or doesn't have perky boobs? the truth is you're not supposed to assume shit about someone's body because you don't know how someone looks naked until...they're naked! It's your own fault if you make an assumption. And again, I ask if anything that improves your appe…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 04:19 PM
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Manipulation is the act of influencing or controlling someone else in an unfair or underhanded way. it's not UNFAIR or UNDERHANDED to brush my damn teeth. For makeup to be underhanded, you'd have to do something crazy like using special effects every morning to completely change your face in a natural way. That's not what most women are doing, they're noticeably accentuating certain features in a visible way. So unless you have an IQ of four, it's not underhanded in the slightest, because anyone…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 03:49 PM
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I don't think it is. I think an intelligent person recognizes makeup, so you're able to consciously understand that without that makeup they look different. It's not manipulation, she's just making herself look better and if that's manipulation, so is brushing your teeth and combing your hair. But i see what you're trying to do. You're here in the comments trying to apply the same logic of makeup to deceiving women into sex and to raping them by taking off the condom secretly. Let me be the one …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 03:13 PM
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I feel that just because a bunch of creeps are willing to fuck you, doesn't meant you have a lot of options.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 03:07 PM
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Except we are talking about what's okay. That was the original topic, if it's okay to "hit and quit" when you know if the woman wants more. being in an emotional state affects the morals and values you follow.' you forget in the scenario we mentioned, the guy would be dating me for months. So he has plenty of non-emotional time to tell me he doesn't want a relationship. Studies show, that being horny affects how necessary men think it is to use a condom on a ONS, More like they never actually ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 03:02 PM
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sorry do you just not know what makeup looks like on a woman? How is it a manipulation to take care of your looks? it's on you if you think that girl's eyelids are naturally glittery...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 11:08 PM
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Aversion sounds like what I was describing - someone that's not particularly interested in sex and doesn't expect or need long term intimacy in a relationship. I definitely want intimacy, just not with someone I don't love. I have a high libido and I know imp definitely not asexual. How is that throwing away loyalty if you're honoring an egalitarian agreement that cuts both ways? So this is something you and your partner have already discussed this and agreed on it? It's ok if you have a lower l…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 10:09 PM
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you might be excluding good men who don't need to wait 2-3 months to find a high quality woman. They would be excluded anyway because if I pushed past my aversion to sex without love he'd realize how much I don't want to have sex yet, and a good man isn't about to have sex with someone who doesn't want to. I'd expect the same freedom in return. So essentially, you want to throw away your loyalty to her if, outside of her control, she can't have sex. Another reason why I don't let these "good men…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 09:35 PM
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I mean most people don't willingly choose an abusive person. It's hidden from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 09:28 PM
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1.) If a man is interested in me romantically then he should be okay with waiting. During that time he can build platonic feelings and investigate if we are compatible just as people. If he wants sex right away that's fine, he's just not going to get it from me. 2.) if you need sex to form and keep a romantic relationship, what exactly happens if your wife becomes disabled and can't have sex anymore? you wont love her anymore?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 09:17 PM
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Literally how do i treat them like a monolith!? you still have yet to ever explain why you believe that!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 09:02 PM
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So when you're horny you find it perfectly acceptable to deceive your partners into sexual acts they wouldn't have done otherwise? How much should women suffer in service to your libido until its too far? Is it okay to lie about putting on a condom if it helps you get off?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 09:01 PM
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Bro i have news to tell you. your morals aren't "fluctuating" you're in denial about the kind of man you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 06:12 PM
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Literally isn't it, when the conversation is on my boundaries?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 06:12 PM
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That isn't unique to women. There are many men who tolerate shit personalities for pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 05:26 PM
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It doesn't. As a feminist I disagree that women are more moral.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 05:21 PM
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It's also a lot more socially accepted that men are violent, which creates a feedback loop of men being violent.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 05:07 PM
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Do you think rich criminal women are also lacking in partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 05:05 PM
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I never said early sex is wrong. I just said what my preferences are for dating men, nobody has to follow them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 04:54 PM
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But all the signs you took for serious interest were just signs of adapting to their desperate situation and doing what it takes. Like I'm sure that happens but It seems rare, or it wouldn't happened to me by now. It's also like...really evil to lie to someone's face like that, promising love just to get sex, knowing it's going to really hurt the person you're pursuing. Do you think most men are that immoral?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 04:53 PM
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What does my comment have to do with men being a monolith?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 04:08 PM
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Typically the guy who wants sex doesn't stick around, past week 3, never takes initiative to plan dates, doesn't pay for my meal, he doesn't have any kind of emotional depth in our talks, he gets handsy quick (or turns the topic sexual randomly), etc. So far, I've never suffered a "hit it and quit it" so I think my method is pretty sound.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 04:07 PM
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it would just be up to the individual guy to decide if he wants to wait X number of months or whatever amount of time until you're ready Isn't that how all relationships work? I set a boundary, you ask yourself if its reasonable, you leave or stay depending on that. when those same rules were allowed to be bent/broken by some other man (usually a Chad....could be a Tyrone, and sometimes even a Pookie or a Ray Ray) How are you going to know if I had sex early or not in the past? The only way this…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 04:05 PM
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Imo in my experience fuckboys aren't willing to spend money, time, and mental energy on romantic dates for months just to have sex. It's also hella obvious when a desperate guy just wants a hole and not a partner. I'm not dumb enough to date men like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 03:56 PM
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I haven't seen redpill beg women to date Low Value Men although I guess maybe you interpret it that way because you think anybody who isn't a 10 is automatically low value to you. There are multiple posts a week saying women need to lower their standards and give undesirable men a chance. Don't date people that have to be on their best behavior 24/7 to even be acceptable to you. It's a great way for women to complain about how "he changed" or "tricked you" when he inevitably gets tired of having…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 03:54 PM
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So If I decide I don't care about romantically pursuing a specific guy and have a one night stand, from then on, I now no longer have the ability to say no to a man's sexual advances while dating. If he wants sex, he gets it, regardless of if I want it or not or if I'm comfortable with it. You really going to argue that?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 03:50 PM
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If she had me jump through more hoops than her ex then yea obviously I'm not that guy. I'd rather leave and be that guy for someone else. You're a free man so yes you can leave any relationship you don't want, but I have to ask how you suppose you bring up this question without looking like a complete control freak. Nope not implying that at all. I am saying if you are less attracted to your current partner than your previous partner maybe you should move on to someone else. Or maybe there's mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 10:51 AM
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I'm fine with either option, both have their benefits. Though being in a relationship will allow me to have a family, which is more feasible with a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 10:37 AM
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Physically? No one. Emotionally? Potentially your future partner. you're not compatible with me if you're insecure enough to comb through all my past partners and decide one by one if i made them wait long enough. Anyway, is it anyone else's fault but your own if your girl felt more secure and more attracted to her ex, so she had sex with him sooner? Just accept that you're not that guy. Plus, if i'm not ready to have sex, i'm not ready to have sex. What you're implying is that I should force my…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 10:36 AM
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really? cuz the thread started with me saying I was fine being single and I'd be fine ending up single. So i have a hard time believing that's what he meant to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 10:23 AM
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My personal experience with waiting didn't result in better relationships, it just wasted time and opportunities. In most cases the waiting seemed to correlate with lower sexual desire from my partners behalf, which is an issue of compatability for me. Then do with what works for you. I'd only wait that long again for an exceptional woman who clearly demonstrates strong sexual desire, but abstains from sex early to delay gratification. So you'll wait as part of foreplay, but not to make her feel…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 08:49 AM
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Who is harmed in the process if I decide I want to have sex faster with someone? Why is it when women say they don't have casual sex right away there will be flocks of men rushing to say "OKAY BUT YOU BETTER NOT FUCK CHAD THEN WHEN YOU GET THE CHANCE." Would you drop 600$ on a first date with a girl? Probably not. That's a healthy boundary that protects yourself because you're not certain if she's going to be into you or if you'll get laid. But what if you had a chance with an actual celebrity o…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 08:35 AM
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Because I was told by society from a young age that women who turn down good men for their looks are shallow and evil. He was my friend and we got along so when he confessed I agreed to date him.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 08:10 AM
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I didn't say it was many men, I called out redpill men for a reason...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 06:41 AM
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I feel like a lot of men within my circle of dating is already not having sex? Like, talking to guy friends and gossiping about sex lives, that seems to be the case anyway. So I feel like if I'm dating a man who's already not fucking, and he genuine about wanting a romance, it really shouldn't be a problem to hang out, have fun, and do things together for 2-3 months. don't want to waste 2-3 months before developing intimacy or determine compatibility. those can be conversations we discuss withou…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 06:35 AM
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I only date for romance and fuck within dedicated relationships, so no, there will be no one night stands with "chad" and there never has been.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 04:39 AM
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As long as you're not dating a teenager I say its two adults who can do what they want. neither partner should take advantage of the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 03:26 AM
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It means loneliness. But i'm not lonely now. So why would I be lonely by making men wait? cause deep down women, just like men, want better and want to cum seeing something pretty fucking them/being fucked by them. I don't think it's deep down. I don't date men with ugly appearances or personalities. The rest of your message makes no sense. Make your argument clearly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 03:06 AM
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You don't think a man can be attracted to me and also have the ability to wait 60 days before sex? You think that little of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 02:43 AM
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"you're going to get what's coming to you" sounds a hell lot more like "you're going to get whats deserved" rather than "you'll end up with someone you don't like." How would I end up with a guy I didn't like? That's nonsensical, because either I would reject all the men who couldn't meet my standards or I'd find one who waited patiently. win win scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 02:34 AM
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Yes, choose reasonable looking nice guys. It doesn't count if you pick some ugly troll but he's a serial flirting drug dealing ex-con. Are you under the impression that all abusers out of the gate are really open with their abuse and bad habits? Look up the stats. Abuse is most likely to begin soon after pregnancy or marriage. That means while dating these men hide who they are and wait until it becomes way harder to leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 02:26 AM
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I guarantee that the frequency of arrogance is not the same for those two groups. As the girl who bought into the "Ugly guys just need a chance!" lie, I will tell you this ven diagram is basically a circle. Not only are they ugly, but they're hella insecure and take it out on you. Because even if you promise you love them either way they don't believe you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 02:24 AM
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IDK why you act like older men can't be hot. Like I feel my heart skip a beat when I see a buff older man with a salt and pepper beard. Legit I think they're as attractive as a toned guy in his prime. So a lot of older men are just as hot, provide me resources, and probably are more mature and less idiotic. It's obvious he'd be my choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 02:23 AM
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I just had a conversation with a redpill man where I said that my physical standards aren't that high, and it's mostly my emotional ones that need to be met. When I said I ensured my partners were a fit for those standards emotionally by not having sex for the first 2-3 months to make sure they wanted more than just that, his response was essentially, "you're never going to be successful with this strategy, and if you keep trying it, you're going to get what's coming to you." So essentially, If …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 02:18 AM
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Sexual should come first because it always does. Just fucking fuck him. If he's bad, quit, even midway. If he's great, nice, you had sex too. Now you can see his true colours. Except it's going to emotionally hurt me if I thought we were sharing an intimate moment and he just wanted to get off. So no, he can wait or he can leave. You won't ever succeed by withholding sex like that from men you're attracted to. Why not? I'd rather never fuck a man than be someone's pump and dump. you're gonna get…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 01:57 AM
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Yes and my point was not that all men should ask beyond looking for positive body language. It was that when i state a boundary plainly, they don't respect it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 01:34 AM
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I think that it's gross men "wont bother" to respect your boundaries if it anything remotely outside of the norm. That tells me if he's my partner, all my needs and requests will be ignored unless they're the "norm."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 06:01 PM
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I think I'm way more picky with personality, considering I turn down attractive guys all the time over their politics, relgion, and behavior the other day. I just ghosted a guy i would consider a 10/10 because he posted one of those ultra cringe, "flipping off the camera with a blunt" photos. I date to marry so you being hot means nothing if you're going to mistreat me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 06:18 AM
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so I checked the link you sent. it provided the source for men having as many reported sexual assaults as women with this study vvv https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4062022/#abstract1 but when I went to check the data that said women are perpetrator's of sexual violence as often as men, the link was dead. It redirected me to the sexual violence page of the CDC.VVV The results were surprising. For example, the CDC’s nationally representative data revealed that over one year, men and women…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 06:12 AM
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why are you in a debate sub if you're going to be angry when someone makes their argument...?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 03:30 AM
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atheism is a sign of maladjustment if it was a conclusion arrived at without deep philosophical introspection... I was raised Christian and as I got older a lot of stuff just didn't make sense to me. There was a lot of consideration but what broke the camel's back was the inconsistencies in the bible with stuff like the archeological record. Like, the bible says the Israelites were enslaved by egypt, but the Egyptians were amazing record keepers and there's no evidence in their records or anywhe…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 03:17 AM
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Maybe its because im poor but like, even without thought that's me not having to spend money on a nice thing I have now!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 01:49 AM
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As a woman I feel it's a strange thing to be mad about unless theres really specific circumstances we aren't privy to, like that she hates waste, wanted something more specific, or that this is the only way her BF shows affection? personally I love flowers but I don't like the idea of the waste and money such a service would cost. So I would thank my boyfriend but tell him that I would much prefer acts of service as a way to show his love.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 01:48 AM
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Have you ever cried into the arms of your bro? I have with my friends, family, and such. So many men are too scared to ever do something like that, even if inside they're literally combusting from despair. ultimately, sexism is the root. it says men aren't emotional, men don't cry, men don't need anyone. So men bottle up their feelings to adhere to this impossible standard until its too much and the only way out they see to the pain is the barrel of a gun.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 01:03 AM
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I refuse to ever date a religious man, as a staunch atheist. I've had a few religious guys hit on me and they were never handsy but they also seemed less interested in me as a person and more as a incubator, as they soon outed themselves when I asked their opinions on my plans to foster-to-adopt only, and never have bio kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 12:16 AM
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Okay but that only works if the guys know each other, or if they cross paths, that my BF cares about the input of strangers on our relationship. In most of my relationships my exes never knew eachother...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 11:10 PM
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I feel like this is just the myth men tell themselves to feel better. "She didn't want me, and now she's getting abused, LOL!" Like, the first guy I dated would be considered a "LVM." He was shorter than me, a weeb, lived with his parents, didn't want an education, thought we was going to be a billionaire selling motorcycles, etc. Nobody in my friend group warned me not to date him, I didn't date him because he was uber hot (we dated because we had similar hobbies.) He still got pissed at me whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 10:55 PM
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Not saying you're lying but can you copy paste exactly where it says that in the study? I'm having trouble finding it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 09:35 PM
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Maybe i'm reading this study wrong, but I'm not seeing where it says women rape as often as men?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 07:55 PM
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considering I'd rather kill a man than give birth I don't think I will be mad at men for being single while I don't have a bio kid. My plan right now is to get married before 35 and adopt. If I never find a person to love then I'll adopt alone from foster care. So I can have a family without a man. or ill marry a woman lol. It's great being Bi.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 07:49 PM
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im not with him because he stopped asking permission and started groping me on our dates. I was really excited to see where our dates went, before that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 07:46 PM
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reality show? the kind which are infamous for being staged?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 07:43 PM
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u forget that sexy salt and pepper beard
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 01:26 PM
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so being gay is an insult?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 12:36 PM
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then explain my unfathomable love for old men
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 12:00 PM
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Like this is dark but what happens when something bad happens that impacts you both? like, God forbid, you have a stillbirth or something? Like, Im sure no doubt you have friends willing to lend an ear, but only your BEST of friends is going to be comfortable enough to talk about that, and I know if my husband just...shut off and didn't tell me how he was feeling, i would have to divorce him. I would see him as cold and unfeeling if he couldn't tell me how he was upset over our baby dying...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 11:39 AM
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Men are less likely to address and talk about their emotions. That builds up and it has to release somehow. When you can't talk to anyone, you commit terrible crimes to get those feelings out.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 11:37 AM
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Not saying you shouldn't have male friends, but speaking honestly, I do not see a happy future for your relationship if you can't be emotionally vulnerable with your partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 11:36 AM
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What does your therapist think about you not being vulnerable with your partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 11:22 AM
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TBF whenever my galpals complain about men I do suggest they go lesbian, and I sacrifice my face for ride in solidarity. Never been called a homophobe for it though I have been called "Oh, daddy!"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 11:20 AM
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im sure you do little man.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 11:17 AM
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I think you're just really eager to call anyone homophobic but you're not really sure what it actually means lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 11:15 AM
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I feel like if it really is the standard that women are not emotionally supportive, that's something we as a society should challenge. It's not something you should try and fix by being emotionally dead with your partner. Historically, it's been found in psychological studies that repressing your feelings is bad for you. And if you're repressing your feelings about something you're unhappy with in a relationship, should you just be unhappy with that relationship instead of fixing it?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 11:14 AM
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I don't know how else to explain it to you that I would only be implying Op could choose to be gay if I first assumed he was straight.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 11:09 AM
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The human race would have died if men where really unstable given their strength and potential to kill. biologically speaking that's only true if they kill more people than they make through sex. Sooo with the rates of rape being squarely a male issue...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 11:08 AM
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good thing I didn't do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 11:06 AM
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when men are having historically high suicide rates, I doubt men just "need less" emotionally. I think it's easier, and less scary, to assume you need less. But I don't believe it. I think men need equal, if not more, emotional support. . A woman generally need a man who is more intelligent/mature/stable/rich/tall/wise that's less about the emotional needs of a woman and more to do with the inherent risk a woman takes being with a man. Accidental pregnancy can instantly make her more vulnerable.…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 11:05 AM
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You have to understand that history is course correcting HARD for how women used to be treated. Lets look back in history. way, way, way back. In older times, It was seen as acceptable to forcibly take sex from your wife, even if she didn't want to. Rape in marriage wasn't a thing back then, and taking it to court would lead you to be laughed out. imagine the despair you might feel knowing that you can be raped over and over by the person who was meant to love you forever, and nobody would belie…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 11:01 AM
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if you can't be naked with your SO who can you be naked with?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 10:53 AM
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I really don't see the correlation. Nobody said he had to change his sexuality. Also? You realize straight guys can also have sex with men right? Plenty of people try it to test the waters.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 10:51 AM
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It's only homophobic if you assume Op is straight, which i didn't. Would you say it's acephobic to not have sex in this scenario?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 10:48 AM
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To me, having a emotional support system means someone I can be emotionally vulnerable with not at. It sounds so depressing to think of my partner treating me like a emotional burden and then suppressing all of his negative emotions to pretend to be a robot. It's also not studied well yet, but most small studies find that women are actually more likely to offer emotional support to men compared to the reverse. Do you think these studies are faulty, or are there just some women who are accepting …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 10:45 AM
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Your point is it's homophobic to tell OP he should turn gay. I didn't say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 10:37 AM
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If women are bad at supporting men emotionally, why do you suppose that studies find married men are much more likely to be happier and less depressed? Conversely, why do you think the inverse is true? why do you think married women are more likely to be depressed?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 10:36 AM
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so is it or is it not possible for OP to be bisexual? :)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 10:31 AM
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Statistics are only accurate when a population is willing and aware enough to report. Tons of men are bisexual or at least heteroflexible and just heavily repress it out of shame, I'd wager.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 10:31 AM
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So are you saying bisexual men can't be redpilled? Isn't that you literally trying to exclude a whole group based on sexuality?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 10:28 AM
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how would you know unless youre fucking everyone you meet lmao?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 10:26 AM
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It's more homophobic to assume everyone is straight, which is what you did. All I said was sex with men is an option, not that he is or isn't bisexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 10:24 AM
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I'm sure other people will debate him but for now I just proposed a possible solution, if he wants to pursue it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 10:23 AM
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Why are you assuming OP's sexuality?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 10:21 AM
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are you assuming op isn't BI? All i said is it's an option lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 10:20 AM
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Why do you just assume OP is straight lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 10:19 AM
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Explain how it's homophobic to say you should date men if you prefer the company of men? I'm Bisexual, and if I felt men were "wired to lose respect" for me when I was vulnerable, I would date women exclusively.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 10:16 AM
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Well, you could always date and have sex with exclusively men if you think women are unstable and unreliable.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 10:00 AM
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I just said punching down isn't okay. Isn't that what you want? for us not to punch down?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 09:55 AM
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Punching down isn't okay, But when you're a quote "LVM" trying to say shit like "Your body my choice" because you're 5'2, 37, and live with your mom, I'm going to rip into you and make you wish you never left your little cesspool of useless sperm and monster energy cans. No matter how ABSOLUTE SHIT your life is, you don't get to take it out on people.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 09:51 AM
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pretty sure this is a skit bro
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 09:22 AM
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Who is telling you you're short?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 09:20 AM
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Again, find your balls. He was the one taking us off topic, injecting his weird hang-ups into the conversation unpromoted, and essentially trying to decide if I had "acceptable" standards by trying to quantify how many "5's" I dated. he left not because i was "nagging" but because damn outed himself and realized it. No sane person wants to argue over and over again with a brick wall. Least of all a man with a fulltime job and other obligations on top of that. Then just leave, it's clear you got …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 08:53 AM
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Why are you in a debate sub when you get stressed by DEBATE
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 07:04 AM
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I mean what can you really do when a date is too handsy? Nobody is going to press charges over that, especially when a lot of that falls into he said she said. I'm just wondering. Are all women just overreacting in your opinion? do we just "hate men" for no reason and make up these stories? or is this genuinely a common experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 06:53 AM
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I think you underestimate how many men don't consider it a big deal to steamroll over your boundaries. Maybe its not the majority, but it must be were I live. and before you say it must be me, my friends and family report similar experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 04:52 AM
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I don't typically judge on the first brush of my thigh but when I bat away your hand 4 times during the movie it's not really defensible anymore that you didn't know. Regardless the original comment isn't about if you should ask, it's that so many men don't care about boundaries so we praise the one who do. When that's insane and it's like praising someone for buying their groceries instead of punching the cashier and running out with them... and before you say "not all men" i know it's not all …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 04:02 AM
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You can ask for permission without asking, by reading body language. A lot of men don't and just rush into kissing/fondling without reading the room.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 03:33 AM
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the point is, men respecting boundaries isn't the norm, in my experience. When you shy away from them touching you, they just continue. When you ask them to clearly ask permission, they don't. So saying "wow, he asked!" is sad because shows the bar is low. the minimum a man can do is treat us with humanity, but that's praised now like it's extraordinary.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 11:57 PM
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I literally tell all the men I meet to ask verbally for permission, because im neurodivergent so I have specific boundaries about being touched. This specific date was one of the only guys I've been out with who took that boundary at face value, im not sure why, Edit: I also want to add on you can "ask permission" without actually saying it. You can read her body language to see if she's into it before kissing or doing other things. I had guys literally get mad at me because I ended things with …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 10:09 PM
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I feel like "the bar is in hell" is usually in reference to men's decency. Like the last time i was told that, i was describing how polite my date was for asking me for permission to kiss me. Like, "the bar is in hell" typically is saying "that behavior is expected, where is the bar if common decency is now uber polite and sweet?"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 08:25 PM
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Emma roberts is over 30 and she's routinely posted in NSFW subs.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 07:40 PM
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The post is about telling women they need to lower their standards, you're the one injecting your own weird hangups about abuse victims. But you're being way too combative for me, Shocker, you're being debated in a debate sub. Damn. Find your balls, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 07:11 PM
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you're like trying to quantify how many beta's do I fuck to see if my standards are acceptable lmao. I'm allowed to have crazy high standards. It's my life, I'm not going to fuck it up by ending up in a dead bedroom with some ugly creep who doesn't even eat me out.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 07:06 PM
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But we see men still absolutely thirsting for older female celebs so clearly, it's not different.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 07:04 PM
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Bro it's not that complicated, I just date the people who are attractive to me. This is not an equal opportunity pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 07:03 PM
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If i lower my standards, I will be dating men I'm not attracted to. How else is this supposed to work?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 06:59 PM
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Couldn't you say the same for older men? A well balanced woman doesn't date someone 20 years her senior.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 06:52 PM
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Um, OP never mentions us preferring "unsafe 10's" he critiques women for not dating men who aren't up to my standards. That's literally saying date people I'm not attracted to, because otherwise dating is too difficult for men. Also like TBH, the most abusive men i've met, were fucking UGLY. It's not just "hot chads" abusing their girlfriends lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 06:50 PM
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How would you even find out I didn't make the other guys wait?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 06:30 PM
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I mean I have no problem with men being emotional, as long as you're not TAKING that emotion out on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 01:40 AM
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Or you could recognize that some people instinctively seek out abuser, typically because they were raised to accept abuse as normal. So the answer is she should probably be single until she can get therapy for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 08:35 PM
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How will you provide your future wife the security she needs if she's a homemaker? That is, being a stay at home partner is really dangerous because if you divorce for any reason, she's not going to be able to find work, pay for anything, or use any of the skills she built with you anywhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 07:42 PM
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No group is a monolith but I've still been told over and over by red pill men that I'm going to "hit a wall" at 25 and men will stop wanting me. Well here I am and not only are men (and women) very much pursuing me, now i'm hearing that suddenly I'm actually so much more mature and desirable than the younger ladies...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 07:28 PM
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I think they literally just realized with all the praise for younger women, they're praising women. Gasp, the horror. So now they need to invent some reason why younger women are still flawed and horrible and undesirable and you should just marry the first good man who wants you ladies because he could go fuck that desperate cougar!1!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 07:25 PM
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I think you misinterpreted. put another way, I love my life. I'm happy, i have people who care about me, I'm fulfilled. A man in my life could make me happier, and make things even better, but if there's a fundemental incompatibility between us (like sexual attraction, value difference, etc) that happiness isn't going to last. It could even make my life worse. I would hope my partner feel sthe same. It would suck to think they hate fundamental part of who i am, but they're so unhappy and lonely …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 07:13 PM
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did you not look into the comments? the top comment is a self identified redpill man explaining he fucks almost exclusively older women...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 07:08 PM
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This is typically why I make men wait months before any sexual contact lol. If they're not patient enough to date me that long then they're probably a fuck boy. Or at the very least, have different expectations when it comes to a romantic relationship, which i personally feel should be amorous feelings first, sexual feelings second. So far, it's worked great. Never had to deal with being led on.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 07:06 PM
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you saying that most of them don't agree women "deteriorate in value" with age, while men supposedly dont?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 06:50 PM
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i've been seeing couples like 30F x 25M lately, it's not beings so taboo anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 06:49 PM
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I have plenty of Libido, I like sex. Men just don't really make it easy to have sex because: 1.) they don't help with birth control 2.) they often don't care about you feeling safe (i don't want to date someone who will rape me) 3.) they DON'T TRY TO MAKE YOU CUM.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 02:38 AM
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what do you have to say to the studies that find men are less depressed and report higher levels of happiness with a woman in their life, while it's the reverse for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 02:36 AM
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Why would I date someone I'm not attracted to when I'm just as happy being alone? A man in my life is a like adding syrup to my dessert. It can make things sweeter and enhance the dessert, but if the syrup comes with pubic hairs i'm just going to eat the ice cream, nothing gained nothing lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 02:28 AM
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Really odd because I was always told by "redpill" that my desirability will always be lower once im 25+ regardless of how I look. Now I'm hearing them admit that i'm more desirable that the "young, untainted virgins" so i'm wondering, what's the truth? is being older a horrible trait and clearly women need to get locked down asap, or is it perfectly fine to wait?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 02:25 AM
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Not really. If you had tons of sex that means you're super experienced. If you're not then I can help you learn exactly what I like. really the only real concern would be STD's if you fuck a lot. but then i test all my partners anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 07:25 AM
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I feel like a man who would judge my worth based on such a narrow set of arbitrary rules wouldn't be worth my time, so i guess it's a no lose game for people like me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 02:15 AM
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My rebuttal to that is everyone seems to have a different definition of virginity. like, my only partner has been a woman, I'm bi, does that mean I'm still a virgin? does it only count if you've had an encounter with the same sex? or does any level of penetration count?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 02:05 AM
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im not sure what you're trying to imply. maternal mortality rates skyrocketed after the abortion ban, doctors are clearly hesitating to perform abortions for any reason, due to the really quite confusing wording of the law. Here's the exception spelled out: The prohibition under Subsection (a) does not apply if: (1) the person performing, inducing, or attempting the abortion is a licensed physician; (2) in the exercise of reasonable medical judgment, the pregnant female on whom the abortion is p…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 01:52 AM
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I would never use a prostitute only because I'm a deeply romantic person, and sex without love feels disgusting to me. To be a little vulnerable, I like to write romantic fiction. It scratches that part of my brain to imagine characters having romantic and sexy escapades, and it's also a really healthy productive outlet of my energy, while also sharpening my mind to find the most beautiful way to describe dick and bawls. I actually highly recommend reading and writing erotica to anyone who's cel…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 01:00 AM
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I'm texan.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 12:52 AM
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my worry is that when you start labeling it as a need, the implication is that to satisfy that need, women should expect to be violated. like, there are so many horror stories of marital rape because a man has a "need" for sex. I don't want to pretend that being celibate can't be lonely, as someone who'd classify themselves as celibate since 2022, but I don't want to give rapists more ammo than they already have.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 12:45 AM
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I've had women who have rejected me and proceeded to ask me to follow them around everywhere. Go on tons of 1-on-1 "hangouts" where they get to see my squirm being around them. To be clear, you told them you didn't want to hang out 1-on-1 and they ignored you? or was this an unspoken boundary? I would buy them stuff and complement them. Back when I was more impressionable and insecure, I used to do it all. I didn't understand that I was being manipulated. I learned quickly, but people well into …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 12:34 AM
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I mean prostitution happens if its legal or not. right now its basically rape constantly, sexual slavery, children sold on the black market. if it was legal you could call the police if you were being abused by a client, we could a system where you can get a license that confirms you're an adult, consenting, and STD-free. People who can't get sex the "typical way" like highly disabled people, people who are extremely socially awkward, people who want to practice, could do it ethically and get so…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 12:28 AM
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There are multiple people on this sub who do in fact consider it a human right. You literally compared it to water, which is a recognized as a human right lmao. the fact is I totally get that men have a stronger sex drive. but I bet that most Redpillers exaggerate their need for pussy because the signals get crossed: what you want is intimacy. love. connection. You don't get those things unless you're a good person who is emotionally vulnerable.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 12:24 AM
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I actually hella support legal prostitution. unfortunately that would mean acknowledging female sexuality as useful and not shameful, which has historically been difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 12:21 AM
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Op is saying there will always be men who aren't desirable. I'm saying if you're that ugly, get money, fame, and intellect. And if you can't - too bad. Pussy isn't a right. you're not owed it. It's the natural order for men who can't make themselves attractive in any way to not get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 11:50 PM
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are you that horny you die without a daily full glass of pussy squirt little bro?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 11:47 PM
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Your whole stance is that women don't discuss sex truthfully with eachother, but you can't even say that since you're a man. they're going to lie because YOU are there.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 11:46 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but none of the doctor's were charged with neglect or medical malpractice. Even if it was just all the doctor's seemingly, suddenly, being neglectful, the result is the same. in texas, it's now harder to get an abortion for medical reasons. While doctor's are waiting for you to knock on death's door, they're also leaving the state en-mass, creating maternity deserts. for me to have sex then you'd have to prove to me you'd be able to get me out of this state, support me f…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 11:45 PM
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So you're a woman and you talk to your galpals?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 10:07 PM
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I mean nobody is saying you shouldn't dress warmer. but sometimes the forecast is a flurry and the reality is a blizzard. so we should be helping dig people out of the snow instead of asking "well why didn't you prepare for the storm of the century literally every day?"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 10:06 PM
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I think though it's not possible to pick better partners when most abuse doesn't start right away. for a lot of women, the men they love for years and years is kind and good to them, until the moment they're "locked in" with a pregnancy. Then when their lover knows they can't just leave, they ramp up the abuse. theres a reason why pregnant women are so much more likely to die from abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 10:04 PM
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Typically its men who kill and attack other men, right? so, isn't the evil male stereotype more accurate to life? It's also been scientifically been proven that when men enter relationships, their happiness increases. on the other hand, women become more depressed. so, I say media should have even more portrayals of evil men, especially when there is already a wealth of fiction portraying evil females.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 09:58 PM
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I wait a long time before I have sex, because I live in a red state and I need to know the man I'm having sex with will help me if I get pregnant. it's not just about not wanting kids. Here in my state if you start miscarrying and need an abortion, you can't get one until you start going septic, on the hair's edge of death. So i need a man who will DROP EVERYTHING for me, and rush me to a PC state if I need it. If I don't think you'd do that...no sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 09:52 PM
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well they probably lie to you because you're a raging misogynist. Makes sense they would tell me how they fucked so hard the neighbors heard, because I'm a girl's girl and you're a creepy one night stand haha. also again proving dont fuck with this banger: You can make love and you can have sexual relations but you cannot fuck. https://preview.redd.it/1qy7r6t04fee1.png?width=498&format=png&auto=webp&s=8d2a7b0103cc6c2922164dda9e4cf8a10da50fbe
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 09:48 PM
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What's the problem with women not dating men below their standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 09:19 PM
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I definitely know you don't fuck if you think it can only be done with a penis. your poor partners, they've been begging you to find the clit and here you are hammering away LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 09:15 PM
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OK let's not measure the amount of times a woman is beaten by a man what does this even mean? Because you have given up on objectivity. Isn't it objectively a fact that love means you don't want to force your partner into sexual acts they aren't comfortable with? me not wanting anal is not the same as you literally committing a crime. Does it occur to you that there's no other situation in the entire universe where you would be making a moral argument for people to make decisions with less infor…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 09:11 PM
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you asked if i fucked women, not if i had a penis, lol also i think it's more likely a woman knows what women do, don't you think? especially when you're probably not sleeping with many women outside your hentai daydreams lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 09:02 PM
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I literally do lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 08:45 PM
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I doubt it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 08:41 PM
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Outliers exist. But overall, its men who typically refuse the condom.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 08:35 PM
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It's pure evil gas lighting to imply that a woman who loves you equally or more would go out of their way to give you less and have less passion with you. I think it's more evil to manipulate women into sex acts they don't want, implying they don't love you if they don't. if you need a specific sex act to feel loved, you should find a partner who likes doing it. The love a woman has for her partner has nothing to do with her preferences changing If I tried Anal with a partner because i was inter…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 08:34 PM
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I mean if men want women to see it less transactionally, they should make more effort to find the clit and make sex actually about mutual pleasure instead of a woman getting raggdolled for 3 minutes then saddled with the stroke from BC, death from miscarriage, unwanted pregnancy, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 08:25 PM
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I mean I imagine it feels better. But so many women aren't even cumming during sex, so half the time they do it for their lover's comfort and pleasure, only to be saddled with the unwanted pregnancy as a result.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 08:23 PM
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Actually, its pretty well known that PL women often talk the talk but don't walk the walk. There are stories of them going into the clinic one day, but protesting outside it the next. “The Only Moral Abortion is My Abortion" type is prevalent. we can tell because even in heavily PL states, abortion rates are comparable, if not HIGHER, then PC states.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 06:38 PM
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nah i know your type. you whine and complain but as soon as you actually get pregnant you abort and say "god told me it wasn't my tiiiiiime"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 06:32 PM
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Glad you have that choice, that you're choosing, not being forced to or shamed into :)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 06:17 PM
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It's entitlement to think women will just gestate your kid for free lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 06:03 PM
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so no. Pay up, buddy!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 05:27 PM
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Then work hard like he did. What, you think you're owed pussy?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 05:20 PM
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yes or no question time: is it a legal requirement to have health insurance before you have sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 05:19 PM
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So basically you're saying you want to have sex with women who don't want it. if you have a requirement for a specific sexual act, the answer is to find someone who wants to do it. Not use coercion to make them do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 05:17 PM
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are you forgetting all the other things? Are you going to deny things prenatal visits cost money? its recommended each pregnant woman gets at least 14 prenatal visit. at their most expensive, they can cost 500$ each. So for a healthy woman, expect to pay 7,000$. Now lets say she has extreme hyperemesis gravidarum, and can't work. now you need to pay for her rent, her food, her clothes, etc. really, these are things you should be obligated to provide if you actually consider the fetus a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 04:57 PM
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well for one it means all the industries women enter are devalued and treated as lesser when, before, they were booming and respected. Men see women as deserving less, even though we contribute just as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 04:46 PM
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that sounds like patriarchy = conservatism i mean yes? Conservatives outright state they don't want women in power.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 04:44 PM
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so you're saying men are too stupid to realize women are manipulating them?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 04:44 PM
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in America if you are impregnated by your rapist, you have to share custody with him even if he's convicted and found guilty.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 04:42 PM
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Then why are women still paid less for the same jobs men work? Why do jobs become paid less when more women join the industry? why are women still expected to do most of the housework, while also still expected to work full time?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 04:41 PM
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You're getting emotional now. Keep it logical. fetus = baby? baby = child support. There are already states with "retroactive child support laws" like texas where fathers are legally obligated to help pay for prenatal visits. All I'm saying is in the duration of a pregnancy, a mother must change her whole life for the good of her baby. That 50,000 more calories, avoiding certain foods, going to the hopital for possible complications - a woman is taking on a burden, so the father should pay for i…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 04:22 PM
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Are you unaware of the many natural ways to induce miscarriage? I could "do it on my own" if i wanted to. Sure it's a privilege to have access to safe abortions through the hospital but I don't see how it's any different from the privilege of getting any medical procedure. either way, you can't really force me to carry to term. it's not your body, it's not your choice, so you should be thanking me for my sacrifice if I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 04:17 PM
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help me? I mean who said I can't just buy my own abortion?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 04:09 PM
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healthy food isn't expensive and yet we still obligate fathers to pay child support for babies who drink breastmilk exclusively. the point of the matter is you either treat a fetus like a baby, then rightfully pay the woman for her efforts to keep the baby alive, or you don't treat the fetus like a baby, and let her abort whenever you want. you can't say she's selfish for aborting while also saying men have no responsibility to her fetus lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 04:05 PM
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Do you agree then men should stop blaming women for the male loneliness epidemic then? When most are not admitting they need to perform better sexually?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 03:43 PM
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Yep and I can also consent to the doctor to perform an abortion lol. Why do you think consenting to sex removes my agency for who's allowed to use my uterus?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 03:39 PM
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Well the answer is men want pleasure out of the arrangement, but they don't care if their partner gets to orgasm. So women have to look for other reasons to justify the risk sex brings.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 03:36 PM
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I mean I don't have sex with men for that reason, and I'm not the only one. More women are realizing that men don't love them OR care if they cum, so they're choosing other routes ala sex toys, platonic marriage, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 03:33 PM
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shouldn't it be the other way around? he should make me cum before he does. If I'm doing it---that's just masturbation, why do i need him there!?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 03:30 PM
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I mean that's what's happening. Rates of women dating/having relationships with men is waning because the standard of ignoring our needs and our pleasure, then we get blamed for the "male loneliness epidemic."
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 03:29 PM
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you don't have to eat for two. But there's already tons of scientific evidence that a poor diet in pregnancy can impact a fetus. Things like vulnerability to diabetes for example. if a woman has to pay more for fresh foods and vegetables, home cooking, etc, then the father should pay for it. Especially when the mother is paying for it with her body.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 03:17 PM
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a lot of them also say they're fine with inexperience but a lot of men get butthurt when you try to give them feedback to improve.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 03:13 PM
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Just tell her you want to work up your way to sex and ask her to teach you how to give great oral first. Trust me, you could fuck like a 1 legged donkey and it wont really matter if you eat her out before and after like a pro.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 03:10 PM
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I mean look at the rates of female orgasm versus the rates of male orgasm. When the chances that sex will feel good are 30%, why am I having sex if not because of the idea that this man has feelings for me and i want him to feel good?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 03:09 PM
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do you support it after birth?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 03:02 PM
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Allowing the use of my womb is also a privilege. you aren't entitled to my uterus, and even in a PL state I can abort any time with aidacess. Maybe you should thank all the women who sacrificed their bodies to give birth.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 03:02 PM
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How would child support start at implantation when we couldn’t know who the father is? The father can either take her word for it that its his, or retroactive payment as soon as genetic testing can take place. Child support is fine the way it is. Well if a fetus is a child, then I'm entitled to more financial support from the father while pregnant so I can eat better, get prenatal vitamins, go to more doctor's visits, quit my job if it's hazardous to my fetus, etc. Socialized healthcare means lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 02:51 PM
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Well, considering the rates of women choosing to be with men is lowering, i guess they're not letting them anymore. Especially when those same men who demand it also demand they be single mothers, to be ridiculed and shamed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 02:47 PM
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how many men insist on going raw?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 02:31 PM
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Kinda off tangent but do you agree then child support starts at implantation, pregnant women should get free medical and financial support, and in the case of miscarriage at any point, time off to grieve? right now, none of those things are really provided to women, but I feel they would be if we as a society actually considered fetuses "children."
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 02:16 PM
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i feel like two women doesn't make a rule lol. plus there are dedicated threads where women say you don't have to disclose.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 01:31 PM
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I think that would depend on if she asks. Like it's one thing if you somehow know she'd be against sleeping with a married man but it's still kinda on her to keep her own morals. but like, what about my point about virginity being a construct? you could keep in line with that moral standard if you wanted to, will you use that logic on your next date?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 01:30 PM
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um, im actually seeing a lot of people saying you don't have to disclose you're a virgin. confused. rape by deception is a legal term and it doesn't really apply to situations like this. It's supposed to be like, you blindfold your GF and she thinks its you who has sex with her but it's your brother, etc. I mean if you want to keep your conscious clear though: virginity is a construct so to ask if you are one it really wouldn't be deceiving to say no, if you consider a number of things you could…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 07:13 AM
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I looked at the posts related to bodycount, most people say it's immature (i'd say yes, it is, especially if your goal is to have a relationship) but I don't really think its rape to say you had one casual fling before (especially if you don't elaborate on what that entails. you could consider phone sex a fling, any sexual encounter with another person could be considered a form of sex one way or another. ) nobody is going to base their consent on you saying you got a blowie once... also lots of…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 05:09 AM
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Can you link the post?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 04:58 AM
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how would your target know if you had a 0 n count? if it mattered why wouldn't you just lie and say you had like 2 casual sex partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 04:08 AM
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There's never a wrong way to feel, only a wrong way to act.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 03:58 AM
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you're saying it's "useless" being friends with women because they're not good wingwomen, but i'm confused, do all your male friends help you get dates? are friends just useless to you unless they're helping you score? what about like, hanging out, doing fun stuff, being emotionally there for you? that would be a better way to solve the male loneliness epidemic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 03:34 AM
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Do you think men should follow these rules too? Like, I've seen men at the gym with no shirt and shorts, i've seen guys in speedos at the beach, I've also seen men posting their muscles on their insta etc, but it's not really seen as "normal" for women to demand men to cover up, is it? There's also the implication of what you're demanding when you want your GF to cover up. That either she's your property and nobody else is allowed to see the parts you "own," or that she's going to attract anothe…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 03:19 AM
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You can also just leave a relationship if your values don't align. It would be just as controlling if a man told me i should wear less clothes, which has happened to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 03:15 AM
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If you wish you could find a partner that doesn’t follow half naked women on social media or doesn’t like women’s thirst traps, acknowledge that the dynamic includes a woman posting to entertain thirsty dudes. The reason these women have careers in porn is because men choose to engage and fund them. Even in a world where women shamed and condemned their fellow women for doing porn, women would still see the opportunity there and do it for the money. and in a world where it was highly shameful an…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 02:53 AM
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I think this is just a over-balancing socially because for most of history women literally had zero real choices. We didn't get to choose who our partners were, we didn't get to choose how many children we had, we didn't even get the choice of saying no to sex (see: 1993, when marital rape was outlawed in all 50 states. That's only a decade before I was born..) That being said, I think most well-balanced people recognize a healthy relationship isn't controlling. A controlling relationship is an …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 02:38 AM
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