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| – | Men, would you truly be open to a truly egalitarian relationship where neither partner is expected to fulfill a certain role based on gender or traditional gender roles based relationship?Yes. The topic of this thread was asking if I would be ok with an equal distribution of tasks without depending on gender roles. So the answer is "Actual equality yes. If not possible, no." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/26 06:35 AM |
| – | Men, would you truly be open to a truly egalitarian relationship where neither partner is expected to fulfill a certain role based on gender or traditional gender roles based relationship?If such is the case I have no interest in equality nor equity. I might as well get everything I can get and give only what I want to give. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/26 06:03 AM |
| – | Men, would you truly be open to a truly egalitarian relationship where neither partner is expected to fulfill a certain role based on gender or traditional gender roles based relationship?Women look for someone that is compatible. Men look for anyone that consents. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/26 05:11 AM |
| – | Men, would you truly be open to a truly egalitarian relationship where neither partner is expected to fulfill a certain role based on gender or traditional gender roles based relationship?So talking about equality in relationships is meaningless. The base is unequal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/26 05:11 AM |
| – | No one is entitled to intimacy in marrige, but they are entitled to a healthy relationshipPersonal responsibility. It is on her to decide if doing X is worth the consequences. I am not dealing with a child that does not know themselves and their limits. That posibility is already talked about and taken into consideration before any act happens. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/26 05:09 AM |
| – | Men, would you truly be open to a truly egalitarian relationship where neither partner is expected to fulfill a certain role based on gender or traditional gender roles based relationship?For example, imagine both partners could contribute financially, divide housework and childcare based on availability and preference, take turns initiating dates and making plans, and support each other emotionally without either person being expected to be “the provider” or “the homemaker” simply because of their gender. This "ability or preference" destroys any semblance of equality. I am all for actual equality in roles 50/50 everything. I can accept that. But once you include negotiating the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/26 09:29 PM |
| – | No one is entitled to intimacy in marrige, but they are entitled to a healthy relationshipThank you. I see it was an issue of the definition used. I can't consider short/medium term arrangements that include exclusivity as monogamy but I can see how others may see that and have their definition of monogamy met. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/26 07:52 PM |
| – | Men: would you date women if you would never get access to their bodies?BPD. As far as I know that one is quite a hard time to deal with. Wishing you the luck, will and environment required to do so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/26 12:17 PM |
| – | Men: would you date women if you would never get access to their bodies?I can't blame someone for thinking the worse of people with my condition. It is in their best interest to doubt and stay away. They are statistically more likely to be right than wrong. I can't prove myself to be a positive in someone's life unless I have time and closeness to demonstrate the way my behavior is in the day to day. Internet entities can't give me that. So it is ok for people to doubt. It is healthy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/26 10:55 AM |
| – | Men: would you date women if you would never get access to their bodies?Yeah... I went to therapy for that. I have my own set of selfish goals. My goal is to feel and be superior to others. The way I do that is by adhering to a moral cose that includes amongst many other things, not lying to my partner/potential partner so they can make a fully informed decision. Following my own goals is in my self interests, lying to my partner/potential partner would be against my own interests. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/26 10:50 AM |
| – | Men: would you date women if you would never get access to their bodies?If he is an ethical sociopath, then he should take it upon himself to remove himself from the dating pool because whatever scant affection he can provide to a woman's genuine affection is of little to no value. But guy needs some affection, I guess? And if some hapless woman has to be sacrificed, then so be it then. Or I can be open about what I am, what I can and can't do and let the adult in front of me make a fully informed decision about dating me or not. That is no sacrifice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/26 09:13 AM |
| – | Men: would you date women if you would never get access to their bodies?Yeah, but why do you want romantic affection? I am still a social creature. I remain a human even if a weird one. And why do you feel entitled to it I am not entitled to it nor do I feel entitled to it. despite the fact that whatever affection you provide her is hollow, as you are a diagnosed sociopath. If what I provide is insufficient is on my partner to decide. It will always be a net loss for her, when her efforts would be better spent on a guy who is capable of returning the sentiment. It i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/26 09:12 AM |
| 43 | Men: would you date women if you would never get access to their bodies?I do want romantic affection. If this hypothetical allows for that ro remain I would still have a reason to date women. If this hypothetical removes that from the table as well the I have no longer any reason to date women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/26 11:47 PM |
| 1 | If you were a straight woman, what kind of man would you go for?Yes. Close enough. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/26 09:53 PM |
| 1 | do you wish to be a purpose for men?Two reasons. One is that when I met her she was struggling to attract and keep relationships in her own socio economic status, those potential partners were flat out unable to give even half of what I can give even if we remove money from the picture. The second reason is that she can leave at any moment and go after someone that gives her more. There are men that could give her more but they are unwilling, she is unable to attract them let alone keep them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/26 06:34 PM |
| 1 | do you wish to be a purpose for men?Exploitation means treating someone unfairly to gain an advantage, or using a resource, land, or material for profit and development. When used about people, it is negative and means taking selfish advantage of a person's work, trust, or weakness. I do not treat her unfairly. I do not treat her in an unfair way. In exchange for the benefits she brings to my life she is getting more than she would ever get in any other relationship she could ever have. There is no metric you could use to measure … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/26 05:55 PM |
| 1 | do you wish to be a purpose for men?No, men want to be single but they wanna keep their mommy bangmaid at home with kids he doesn’t even care about while being able to go out with the guys. I disagree. Some men, young men, might fit that description. Yall don’t give a shit about women except what you can exploit us for. You yourself have made this abundantly clear. What did I say to make that clear? So I can provide an adequate reply | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/26 05:44 PM |
| 1 | do you wish to be a purpose for men?Good one. They are rare | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/26 11:37 AM |
| 1 | do you wish to be a purpose for men?Sure. If you can do it go ahead. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/26 11:37 AM |
| 1 | If you were a straight woman, what kind of man would you go for?Yes | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/26 08:33 AM |
| 1 | If you were a straight woman, what kind of man would you go for?Because someone that loves me will care more about me that someone that does not (a boss, a client, a corportation, myself) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/26 06:35 AM |
| 1 | If you were a straight woman, what kind of man would you go for?As if I would care about attraction in that situation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/26 04:38 AM |
| 1 | If you were a straight woman, what kind of man would you go for?I rather be dependent on someone that loves me than be dependent on myself | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/26 04:36 AM |
| 1 | If you were a straight woman, what kind of man would you go for?So? You may do something different but how is that any better? No one forces anyone to pay the opportunity cost. You do what you choose but who knows what you will be 5 years from now? I know. You are in a car accident and survive but the brain injuries and memory loss changes who you are? Everything is altered and she gets kicked to the curb? I have trust funds set up so my will be done even if I lose my mind. The promise of working falls apart because of financial concerns? See above. Well thi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 10:41 PM |
| 1 | If you were a straight woman, what kind of man would you go for?Just curious but what about the opportunity cost? I know you think this is how it should be covered but why not just say this when we were debating? If entering into that kind of dynamic was a choice then they pay the opportunity cost. No help at all. If there was no choice in the matter I am ok with them receiving help. I took care of our children when there was no money but I did it for them and our family. If my husband and I divorced why could not the opportunity costs be covered then or ove… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 07:05 PM |
| 2 | If you were a straight woman, what kind of man would you go for?As I said before. I really hate fake religious nutjobs. I hope everyone trapped in those circles get to escape. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 04:35 PM |
| 1 | If you were a straight woman, what kind of man would you go for?I believe it is fair. I care about her and that will not change if she leaves me. I hope she does not leave. I believe she gets more of what she wants by staying than by leaving. But she is free to leave for whatever reason or no reason at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 04:26 PM |
| 1 | If you were a straight woman, what kind of man would you go for?After ten years together she could have saved enough to leave me and have enough to rebuild her life. I don't know if she saved. It is not of my concern. Whether she saved or not if she decides to leave me I will make sure she gets the job as we agreed upon. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 04:17 PM |
| 1 | If you were a straight woman, what kind of man would you go for?She gets more money now. Every month. I was talking about what she would get if she decides to leave. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 04:11 PM |
| 1 | What would you have preferred instead of MeToo?Makes no difference to my position. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 03:58 PM |
| 1 | If you were a straight woman, what kind of man would you go for?Would you compensate your non-working partner with the income they would have made had they not been working for you for free? If my current partner decides to leave me I will provide her with a job away from me that she is able to do and keep. The job will pay her enough to live comfortably. The state is not involved. The law does not allow for a situation ok which we both get what we want from the relationship. So she is dependent on me keeping my word. I will. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 03:58 PM |
| 1 | If you were a straight woman, what kind of man would you go for?I encourage people to vet their partners and then do what they want. I personally want a relationship in which only one party works and the other does not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 03:43 PM |
| 1 | If you were a straight woman, what kind of man would you go for?Freedom of choice makes all the difference. Picking your partner allows you to vet. Not being able to pick your partner removes any chance to avoid the wrong one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 03:42 PM |
| 1 | If you were a straight woman, what kind of man would you go for?Call ir how you want, but the human tendency to harm in unnecessary ways do exist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 03:41 PM |
| 1 | If you were a straight woman, what kind of man would you go for?That is sad. I hope you find a way and a person to have a healthy relationship with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 03:36 PM |
| 1 | If you were a straight woman, what kind of man would you go for?People have never applied it well in the past. Women have been slaves in their own households since people started having houses. Yes. Evil does exist since humanity exists. What makes you think people are going to start applying it well now, in this the year of our lord 2026? Not all people. But some. Now that the dynamic is not mandatory the ones that want that dynamic can vet their partners to look for people that is able to apply it well. Now there is natural selection. Only people that are … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 03:36 PM |
| 1 | If you were a straight woman, what kind of man would you go for?And the practice. If you deal with enough people you will see how that principle remains sound | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 03:32 PM |
| 1 | If you were a straight woman, what kind of man would you go for?The problem is not in the dynamic. It is in the people that apply it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 03:31 PM |
| 1 | If you were a straight woman, what kind of man would you go for?It is impossible to know for sure how a relationship will go/end. But it is reasonable to believe that if the two humans in it are benevolent and care about each other then whatever dynamic they have in the relationship it is more likely than not that things will go well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 03:30 PM |
| 1 | If you were a straight woman, what kind of man would you go for?I don’t think it is healthy for a woman to be in the power dynamic you suggest, ever. Full stop. Sounds more like an argument born out of trauma and bad experiences. Not based on logic. Maybe it can be healthy for a man with your brain wiring. I’m not convinced. I know myself well enough to know what is best for me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 03:23 PM |
| 1 | If you were a straight woman, what kind of man would you go for?It’s because religion isn’t meant to make people better people. It’s meant to make people behave in a way that benefits the people in power. Religion is a tool. People use it as they want to use it. A hammer can build or break skulls. The problem is never in the tool. I can’t argue with living the life you want to live. Except you kinda do. By saying it can only end badly. I don’t really appreciate people pushing the notion that a D/s is a normal and healthy way for most people to live. I agree.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 03:18 PM |
| 1 | If you were a straight woman, what kind of man would you go for?Oh. Now I get what you mean. Yeah fuck those fake religious nuts. The whole submission thing can only work if the one being submitted to has a moral backbone. And someone that is truly religious, specially inside Christianity would never abuse that position. My problem with religious idiots is that they are not religious enough to practice benevolence as it is their duty to do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 03:12 PM |
| 1 | If you were a straight woman, what kind of man would you go for?I have anti social personality disorder. In non professional terms, I am a sociopath. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 03:06 PM |
| 1 | If you were a straight woman, what kind of man would you go for?They love your marriage power dynamic. Thrive on it. But you said that that does not end well for the women. Which is it? It doesn't end well le they love it? It can't be both at the same time But don’t tell me I don’t know. You know that bubble. I give you that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 03:05 PM |
| 1 | If you were a straight woman, what kind of man would you go for?Being willing to change yourself to suit my tastes makes it impossible for me to respect you. Fair enough. There we found the incompatibility. I can't bring to the table anything that would make you respect me and you want someone you can respect. I would be very concerned if one of my children was behaving that way. Fair. It would mean some sort of pathology or mental illness or they’d been horribly traumatized. Well I don't hide that I have a condition. It is in my flair. I am quite proud of t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 03:04 PM |
| 2 | If you were a straight woman, what kind of man would you go for?Oh so you had the disgraceful luck to be on the worst possible environment for human relationships. I hate fake religious wannabe posers. At least actual believers live what they preach. Yeah fuck those people. They are a disgrace for both believers and non believers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 02:57 PM |
| 1 | If you were a straight woman, what kind of man would you go for?That sounds like the worst possible partner in the world. You are lacking in imagination. I’m exhausted just thinking about being around you. Because I don't have an idea about how to change to suit you You will never challenge my thinking or teach me something new. If I know that is desired. Then I change to suit that desire. Challenging people and learning new things is not a hard thing to do. You will never delight me with an adventure you took because you’d be dependent on me for your whole … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 02:54 PM |
| 1 | Red pill men, what actions are you referring to specifically that you say women fail to take accountability for?It's a downgrade if you have to change your standard of living. Oh... I see. I disagree. I have other metrics to measure besides standard of living. It is a luxury if you can maintain your standard of living. See above. And all that depends upon the couples priorities. The decision should be made together and neither party should have to take a "hit" if the other party changes their mind about the relationship. Unfortunately, it is the stay at home parent that usually takes the hit. I don't beli… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 02:41 PM |
| 1 | If you were a straight woman, what kind of man would you go for?Ok so how do you know your experience extrapolates to all men and it is not an outlier? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 02:36 PM |
| 1 | If you were a straight woman, what kind of man would you go for?I am malleable. I am what is needed of me and I discard whatever aspect of me that is undesirable or useless. I don't have shape. I have the shape that is needed for my goals. I don't have a personality of my own. I change to suit the needs of the situation. I don't have a look of my own. I will change to suit the situation. I bring whatever is needed. So if you can tell me what is valuable, I will tell you if it is possible for me to bring it to the table. If this scenario was happening in real… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 02:35 PM |
| 1 | If you were a straight woman, what kind of man would you go for?My experience is lived and yours is hypothetical. I have at least one point on you You are not a man not spend enough time knowing men to know the way men's respect is earned. Answer the question. I am considerably more likely to be right than you are due to at least that data. You have none. I have more. I am a man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 02:32 PM |
| 1 | If you were a straight woman, what kind of man would you go for?So, you also want me to do the labor of telling you exactly how to be a great partner to me? For the hypothetical scenario to continue, yes. If this was real life then I would have spent years stalking you to already know what you want. But that is not the place we are in. Already not worth it. If you don’t know what worth you have and why I should want it, then how would I know? See above. For the sake of argument let's say I did have the chance to stalk the everloving shit out of you and give … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 02:28 PM |
| 1 | If you were a straight woman, what kind of man would you go for?And what makes you think what you lived is the way all men work instead of only the way your man works? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 02:26 PM |
| 1 | Red pill men, what actions are you referring to specifically that you say women fail to take accountability for?Yes. Staying home and taking care of your kids usually downgrades ones lifestyle by taking a hit to ones finances. I measure the lifestyle in a way that considers other aspects more than just finances. But I see your point. If finances is all you care about then it is a downgrade. My husband and I both worked while we had kids and having a parent at home for either of us would have been a big benefit, but we couldn't afford to stay at home spouse. Understandable. I always saw it as a luxury for … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 02:26 PM |
| 1 | If you were a straight woman, what kind of man would you go for?Ok. Let's play the hypothetical. Name your price. If possible for me, I will pay it. Trade happens. If not possible for me then trade does not happen. I am not the one that decides what do I bring to the table. My potential partner is the one that decides what I should bring to the table. Because that is the way this thing works. I take it seriously. I don't go to the table bringing what I believe would be valuable to my partner. I find out what my potential partner values and then I bring that … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 02:22 PM |
| 1 | If you were a straight woman, what kind of man would you go for?Holy... You really don't have a single clue about this. If a woman goes into a man’s home as a wife and submits herself fully to his authority, he will grow to loathe her. Why do you believe that? There is no reason to leather her based on that. It is an unnatural and unhappy way to live and a man won’t respect a woman who doesn’t think for herself or have her independence. Who says anything about not thinking for yourself? Why do you believe that men respect independence? He will view her as le… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 02:20 PM |
| 1 | If you were a straight woman, what kind of man would you go for?It’s not how you think. You already said you wouldn’t take this deal if a man offered it. Because I am straight. I would take that deal if a woman offered it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 02:04 PM |
| 2 | If you were a straight woman, what kind of man would you go for?Working makes everyone unhappy. That’s how life works. If you are a woman you can find a man willing to support you so you don't have work making you unhappy. If a woman were to think like you, she would for sure get cheated on by her partner and become a sex slave in her own home. If she picks the wrong man for sure. Men don’t respect women who depend on them like that. Oh so you know what makes a man respect a woman? Please elaborate. I doubt you have any idea about what makes someone earn a m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 02:03 PM |
| 1 | Red pill men, what actions are you referring to specifically that you say women fail to take accountability for?Are you asking why not working while having someone else pay for you and your lifestyle is an opportunity? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 02:00 PM |
| 1 | If you were a straight woman, what kind of man would you go for?Well, abusers don’t tell you they’re abusers before you marry them. Not sure if you knew that. They tend to hide it. And if is my job to vet. If I fail then it is my fault. Again, this is all just a male fantasy of how women should think. It is how I think. I never said anything about how women should think. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 01:57 PM |
| 2 | If you were a straight woman, what kind of man would you go for?Well, not everyone gets that choice. Obviously. I don't deny that arranged marriages exist. If you put your life in the hands of a man, you will 100% be unhappy. I doubt so. If I was a woman I would take the risk. I know that working would make me unhappy with 100% certainty. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 01:56 PM |
| 1 | If you were a straight woman, what kind of man would you go for?It sounds like you’re just kind of lazy to be honest. I would spend my effort into betting the person I will be dependent on and then on bringing benefit to his life. I’ve never met a woman who said she would take the gilded cage and abuse because women generally work harder than that. They work harder on their jobs. I would apply that effort on the relationship. And also, you’re not telling the truth. You don’t currently put up with abuse in your relationships so you wouldn’t tolerate it even i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 01:51 PM |
| 2 | If you were a straight woman, what kind of man would you go for?That changes things. Then it is not my choice. I want to pick the man that will have my life in his hands. I will accept the consequences of my choice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 01:48 PM |
| 1 | If you were a straight woman, what kind of man would you go for?Ok. If I was a woman then I would do everything ok my power to have and use that option. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 01:41 PM |
| 1 | If you were a straight woman, what kind of man would you go for?I would endure all the consequences of me picking the wrong partner. I believe that people should accept the consequences of their actions/decisions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 01:40 PM |
| 2 | If you were a straight woman, what kind of man would you go for?It is a human thing unless you get a partner to support you. Women have that option. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 01:38 PM |
| 2 | If you were a straight woman, what kind of man would you go for?Good for you. It is great that you find yourself in a position you find better than your previous one. I would take the gilded cage if it was an available option. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 01:37 PM |
| 2 | If you were a straight woman, what kind of man would you go for?How does someone debate against "I don't believe you"? I mean sure... You don't have to believe me. I hate everything about the male role. Specially having to earn my own income and dealing with the job marketplace. I would gladly accept a role in which I don't have to deal with that and if the risk is high then I say the potential for a good result is worth the risks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 01:31 PM |
| 1 | If you were a straight woman, what kind of man would you go for?Love comes and goes. It is on me to pick someone that is stable in their feelings and keep them stable. A paycheck comes with a contract that is legally enforceable. That is just being dependent on people that don't love me. Not to mention the fact that lack of personal income means you can’t leave the relationship. I don't want to leave. Are you wanting to be held captive? Yes What if your love turns into a monster? My bad for picking wrong. I deserve the consequences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 01:24 PM |
| 1 | Why do women get surprised/offended when men want sex?Either it is my bad for being caught or my bad for being stupid and selling to multiple customers instead of just one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 01:07 PM |
| -1 | If you were a straight woman, what kind of man would you go for?I'm all for getting as much as possible out of life, until it comes to using children for your own gain. Wanting to have children results in the same. Using children to have the life you want. Having one life isn't an excuse to just use others as stepping stones for your goals. I believe it is a valid reason to do so. They all have one life as well. Then we either use each other in simbiosis or compete against each other. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 01:06 PM |
| -1 | If you were a straight woman, what kind of man would you go for?Why would you want to be dependent on your partner? Because I rather be dependent on someone that loves me than in someone something that does not. Is that only if you were a woman or as a man too? As a man too. But there are not enough women willing to play the role of provider to make that a realistic goal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 01:05 PM |
| -1 | If you were a straight woman, what kind of man would you go for?I can see that reasoning. But I have only one life and I will not waste it. I am getting as much of what I want from it as possible. This hypothetical scenario does not change that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 12:55 PM |
| 1 | If you were a straight woman, what kind of man would you go for?Interesting thought experiment. What sort of life would you want for yourself? This is the main question. Everything else comes from this one. What I want is to live without working for a boss/client/corporation. I want to be dependent on the partner I choose. Every other answer aims towards that goal. Children? If possible no. If necessary to achieve my goals, yes. If the answer ends up being "yes" then my goals and the traits I am looking for in a partner change. Then everything related to bei… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 12:44 PM |
| -5 | Why do women get surprised/offended when men want sex?This might be my favourite Reddit comment ever. Great analogy. Just one thing to add. If I was in the circumstance you describe I wouldn't be sick of bananas nor women. I would not have developed strategies to make sure a woman has interest in me beyond banana related activities. I would use the fact that there is a high demand for something I can offer to get the most out of the trade. Find someone and live from selling banana related activities to that someone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 11:28 AM |
| 1 | Red pill men, what actions are you referring to specifically that you say women fail to take accountability for?Damned if we do and damned if we do not. Yes. That is just how humans are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 01:58 AM |
| 1 | Red pill men, what actions are you referring to specifically that you say women fail to take accountability for?The exchange shows how much many men do not understand and how impossible they are being about a situation that makes us vulnerable but not usually them. (Same goes for SAHF). It punishes mothers (or fathers) who decide to care for their children and take some of the stress off the family. Responsibility is not a punishment. Responsibility is the consequences of your decisions. If women are to bear the reproductive load, the child care and the loss of a career it is probably better that they do … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 01:39 AM |
| 1 | Red pill men, what actions are you referring to specifically that you say women fail to take accountability for?I agree. There is too much risk. That is not an excuse to not be responsible for your actions and paying the opportunity cost. This entire exchange shows how resistan women are at the idea of being responsible for their decisions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 01:15 AM |
| 2 | do you wish to be a purpose for men?Is lying a part of haggling? That would be either false advertisement or fraud. As in lying about your transactional nature in order to take advantage of someone? I would believe that is fraud. When we are talking about pregnancy it becomes a dangerous thing for women. I agree. I don't lie about what I want nor about how I think and feel. I believe whoever deals with me has the right to make a fully informed decision. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 01:08 AM |
| 1 | Red pill men, what actions are you referring to specifically that you say women fail to take accountability for?The decision is more complex than you think. It doesn't matter how simple or complex a situation is. Every decision has an opportunity cost. Either you pay it on your own without any help or you are avoiding the responsibility of the decision. My son had asthma and was constantly sick as a young child. It was almost impossible to work. He settled as he got older but he had croup and I did not get a lot of sleep. The decision to stay home was based on this. My husband did not want to. I did go ba… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 01:06 AM |
| -1 | Red pill men, what actions are you referring to specifically that you say women fail to take accountability for?Its not legal to get an abortion everywhere. Irrelevant unless she got raped. In that case of course she is not responsible, she did not have a say in it. Also, the baby may be planned and the dad jjst doesn't step in like he promised, assuming his job is enough for his "dad duties" Are you confusing child support with the avoidance of the opportunity cost? I am not against child support (The legal minimum an adult has to pay for the state to not take away the child from them). I am against payi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 12:53 AM |
| 0 | do you wish to be a purpose for men?Clearly the transactional nature of relationships with men is a turnoff for women. Then those women can reject the transaction/relationship Women have been finally granted bargaining rights in the context of relationships because of their economic freedom and have decided that the inequity that is inherent within the heterosexual pairings is no longer acceptable. Good for them. If some men want to have transactional relationships, that’s their prerogative, but trying to convince women that they … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 12:50 AM |
| -2 | Red pill men, what actions are you referring to specifically that you say women fail to take accountability for?She has the final say. That means final responsibility. That means pay the opportunity cost instead of dodging the responsibility | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 12:45 AM |
| 1 | Red pill men, what actions are you referring to specifically that you say women fail to take accountability for?Remember, best interests of the family. The family that no longer exist in case of divorce/separation? The family is a unit. The family is not a business. There is no opportunity cost. There is an opportunity cost for the individual that made a decision. The best interest of the family is just an excuse so women are not responsible for their decisions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 12:34 AM |
| -3 | Red pill men, what actions are you referring to specifically that you say women fail to take accountability for?Where did I say anything that can be interpreted in such a way? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 12:33 AM |
| 1 | Red pill men, what actions are you referring to specifically that you say women fail to take accountability for?No it is not avoiding responsibility, it is caring for the family. Caring for the family is an excuse, a justification to make someone avoid paying the opportunity cost On repeat: this is not a business. Irrelevant. The couple makes the decision together. There are some men who push for it too. On repeat Can the decision be enforced against her will? No? Then it is her decision. She has the final say so she has full responsibility and should pay the opportunity cost. Refusing to pay it is avoidi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/26 12:00 AM |
| 1 | Red pill men, what actions are you referring to specifically that you say women fail to take accountability for?It is not just their decision, it should be made as a couple. What if she stays home because the father comes and says he does not want to quit his job but he finds working with very young children impossible with her working? She likes her job less and he makes more so it is a good decision for both. The decision is not made by her alone. A couple makes this decision. Can the decision be enforced against her will? No? Then it is her decision. She has the final say so she has full responsibility… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/26 11:38 PM |
| 1 | Red pill men, what actions are you referring to specifically that you say women fail to take accountability for?u/dogthatwonthunt So you're a john? I am in a transactional relationship in which the only way any of us gets anything is if we both negotiate and do our part of te deal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/26 11:22 PM |
| 1 | Red pill men, what actions are you referring to specifically that you say women fail to take accountability for?She is not getting paid. I worked for free and there was no spare cash. How would she be paid if she was at home full time? Unless her partner makes a significant amount of money. She has a roof over her head and food in her stomach. She is getting something out of her decision. The same goes for SAHF. Then the same applies. He should pay the opportunity cost. No help from anyone. Remember it is not a business. It is a family. Everyone benefits if a parent stays home and takes care of the childr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/26 11:21 PM |
| -6 | Red pill men, what actions are you referring to specifically that you say women fail to take accountability for?Having kids is a decision. A decison she makes. No one can force her. If someone forces her well that is a crime. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/26 11:16 PM |
| 0 | Red pill men, what actions are you referring to specifically that you say women fail to take accountability for?Cool so you gonna pay this woman for the childcare she's giving then. We don't have children. Or do you just get to steal from her cause you're special? I pay her for the benefits she bring to my life. Exactly as much as we negotiate. Or because you feel you own her labor I don't I make sure the law is on my side. It's not. We are not married. There is no common law marriage were we live. She has no legal claim to anything I earn. The only way she gets anything from me is if I get something from… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/26 11:15 PM |
| 0 | Red pill men, what actions are you referring to specifically that you say women fail to take accountability for?I think that everything I earn as a result of me working my job is mine. Whatever she puts into the relationship has the value she negotiates for. I will pay the price agreed upon during negotiation. Not only do I think whatever I earn as a result of me working my job is mine, I make sure the law is on my side. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/26 10:58 PM |
| -1 | Red pill men, what actions are you referring to specifically that you say women fail to take accountability for?The issue is. When you get fired you at least had a job and have market value and skills (to an employer) That is not an issue. It is a consequence of a decision. A woman who is outside of the work for for like 15 years is NOT seen as a candidate for most jobs and if she gets hired will be for a low paying job That is also not an issue. It is a consequence of a decision. If women want to escape that consequence then they are not taking responsibility. So, when your wife becomes a atay at home wi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/26 10:43 PM |
| 2 | Red pill men, what actions are you referring to specifically that you say women fail to take accountability for?It is economically viable because it is cheaper than paying them. It is not socially viable because my position is in the minority. If it was the majority then it would be quite viable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/26 09:47 PM |
| 3 | Red pill men, what actions are you referring to specifically that you say women fail to take accountability for?So she is getting payed and she gets to retrain herself. She is not paying the opportunity cost. The point of paying the opportunity cost is that there is no compensation for it. You pay it. No one helps you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/26 09:46 PM |
| 1 | What would you have preferred instead of MeToo?I would delete someone based on a delusion. I do trust in my lying eyes more than I trust on the courts. I trust in the courts more than I trust in someone's word. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/26 09:33 PM |
| 1 | What would you have preferred instead of MeToo?I personally believe life is more important than reputation. Not by much. The reason why I would take the actions described above is because I saw what I saw. There is no going back from seeing that. As far as I know that person took the life of someone I care about. So I am doing the eye for an eye thing. That person did not attack my partner's reputation. So I am not attacking his reputation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/26 09:27 PM |
| 2 | Red pill men, what actions are you referring to specifically that you say women fail to take accountability for?Ok, then you have to deal with people that think like me voting the way we want and trying to convince others so we become a majority. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/26 09:18 PM |
| 4 | Red pill men, what actions are you referring to specifically that you say women fail to take accountability for?The woman does not pay it. The opportunity cost of not working is that you did not earn anything and you don't have experience. If that is not the consequence of the decision then the woman is not paying the opportunity cost. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/26 09:17 PM |
| 4 | What would you have preferred instead of MeToo?Well...a reputation survives the human. People die. Stories remain. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/26 09:15 PM |
| 2 | Red pill men, what actions are you referring to specifically that you say women fail to take accountability for?Ok. So how is the woman paying the opportunity cost of her decision then? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/26 09:07 PM |
| 1 | Red pill men, what actions are you referring to specifically that you say women fail to take accountability for?So women don't pay the opportunity cost. My position remains unchallenged. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/26 09:02 PM |
| 0 | Red pill men, what actions are you referring to specifically that you say women fail to take accountability for?This might blow your mind: everyone that earns money pays for the system. Only those that pay more than what they take from it actually pay for it. I, as a six figure female earner, pay into the system so that others don’t have to starve, and I’m happy to do so because that’s the kind of society I want to live in. Good. As long as people like you and those that exploit the system are the majority you are ok the winning side. I would love it if anti-social extremist libertarian types stopped part… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/26 08:49 PM |
| 0 | What would you have preferred instead of MeToo?u/fiftypoundpuppy so you would arrange something based on fiction Based on what I saw | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/26 08:40 PM |
| 0 | Red pill men, what actions are you referring to specifically that you say women fail to take accountability for?Then it is on the ones that actually pay for the system to either win elections so there is no safety nets or to leave the country. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/26 08:38 PM |
| -4 | Red pill men, what actions are you referring to specifically that you say women fail to take accountability for?Wild take, apples to oranges. Choosing to leave the workforce to perform unpaid labor/rear children ≠ choosing a different job within the workforce. The opportunity cost of leaving the workforce is extremely high. It is a decision like any other. When you make a decision you pay the opportunity cost. Unless you are a woman I guess... Which is why I say that they don't take responsibility. If all women were (in economic terms) perfectly rational actors in a world where alimony didn’t exist, NONE … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/26 08:20 PM |
| -1 | Red pill men, what actions are you referring to specifically that you say women fail to take accountability for?Alimony. Marital assets. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/26 08:04 PM |
| 4 | Red pill men, what actions are you referring to specifically that you say women fail to take accountability for?I am not. Natural selection will make sure that only the cultures that have children get to keep the planet | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/26 08:00 PM |
| 1 | What would you have preferred instead of MeToo?That directly conflicts with what I quoted in my previous comment: If a court does not say a crime happened exactly as the victim says it happened, it did not happen. It is not a contradiction. The court can decide about innocence and reality. There is no incompatibility. This is you saying that that reality is determined by a court's judgment. Not "innocence," not "guilt," actual reality. So according to your own reasoning, if the court says "not guilty" then the neighbor didn't do it. Ok. The … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/26 07:53 PM |
| -5 | Red pill men, what actions are you referring to specifically that you say women fail to take accountability for?Not for free. For whatever she got during the duration of the relationship. When I am fired I am not asking my boss to pay me for everything I did not do because I was working for him. I worked for him in exchange for whatever he payed me during the time I was employed. In the same way let's say I decide to be a stay at home husband. I do it for the benefits I get during the relationship. I wouldn't expect my partner to pay me for everything I did not do. I decided to not work and I am responsib… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/26 07:51 PM |
| 5 | What would you have preferred instead of MeToo?Okay, so you would kill an innocent man? If I saw him killing Miss moral? Sure. He would be innocent and that does not change the fact that I am going after him. Innocence is for the law to decide. Whether someone is deserving of my full focus that is something I can decide. I will not ruin the reputation of an innocent man. But I would totally arrange the mentioned date. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/26 07:38 PM |
| -5 | Red pill men, what actions are you referring to specifically that you say women fail to take accountability for?I usually say it when women want to be payed for the opportunity cost of choosing to work less/stop working to spend more time with the children or just to stay at home. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/26 07:22 PM |
| 5 | What would you have preferred instead of MeToo?If your neighbor shoots Miss Moral in the face in front of you, would you never talk about it until a court determined that neighbor's innocence or guilt? I would make him kiss a moving train. No need to ruin his reputation. Let's say the neighbor is charged but gets off on a technicality. Good lord I was slow to arrange the date between him and the train but sure. Let's say I was that slow. Would you say the neighbor shot Miss Moral, or would you substitute your reality with the court's verdict… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/26 07:20 PM |
| 0 | do you wish to be a purpose for men?You have total control over your wellbeing. How do you know? What access do you have to any information required to make that statement with any degree of certainty? I’m guessing you just don’t want to take any accountability because “it’s too hard!” Well, Timmy, it still means you have a choice. Well I did solve the issue. Plenty of women are putting in the work as evidenced by how many of us go to therapy. Males try to use that as a point of shame for women when, in fact, it’s a massive point … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/26 07:12 PM |
| 9 | What would you have preferred instead of MeToo?What would you have preferred instead of MeToo? I am ok with the consequences of MeToo. Now most people start to understand that believing victims before there is evidence they are victims in the first place is stupid. So there's a lot of ire I've seen expressed by men on this sub about the name given for an organic collective catharsis of women publicly recounting their experiences with a sexual harassment and assault. Of course. Because if people believe someone is guilty before evidence is pr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/26 05:46 PM |
| 1 | do you wish to be a purpose for men?Women wanting to be single and men not wanting to be single. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/26 05:27 PM |
| 1 | do you wish to be a purpose for men?I already got what I wanted and as long as I continue getting it I will provide what the world wants from me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/26 05:27 PM |
| 1 | do you wish to be a purpose for men?No, honey, I think whoever diagnosed you ASPD missed a few things. Could be. Or, do you know your ideas are so heinous that you only reveal them as an anonymous person on the internet? I know they are considered hideous. People close to me are aware that I hold them. You do have control over your own wellbeing. How could you ever know? If you’re unable to achieve it, it sounds like a you problem. We all have issues we deal with and some of us are out here thriving. I can't complain about how I a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/26 05:26 PM |
| -1 | do you wish to be a purpose for men?No. Responsibility and accountability are not the same. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/26 12:20 PM |
| 2 | do you wish to be a purpose for men?Oh so you admit that you think it’s fine to use people? Of course. You can do it in a way that is moral and mutually beneficial or you can be an ass about it. A true friend does not use the other for their own gain, they simply enjoy the mutual bond of affection (unless they are a psychopath) And they are getting benefit from that bond so they are using each other for their own benefit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/26 12:34 AM |
| 1 | do you wish to be a purpose for men?If they could co exist then they would not have competing interests. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/26 12:32 AM |
| 1 | do you wish to be a purpose for men?Like me? Improving the life of people that would otherwise see no improvement? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/26 12:32 AM |
| 2 | do you wish to be a purpose for men?I know. I never said anything about my family centering me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/26 06:49 PM |
| 1 | No one is entitled to intimacy in marrige, but they are entitled to a healthy relationshipI don't think so but please elaborate. Maybe I am wrong. What do you mean? Care to provide an example? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/26 05:53 PM |
| 1 | do you wish to be a purpose for men?Countries made of men and women of the same species have different objectives that can't coexist and it ends up being resolved with violence. Being the same species does not mean people inside said species can't be divided into groups with opposite interests. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/26 05:52 PM |
| 2 | do you wish to be a purpose for men?You can use associates friends and partners to accomplish a task. Not exclusive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/26 05:50 PM |
| 1 | do you wish to be a purpose for men?Do you have a preferred term for the concept of a "person whom another person utilizes in the pursuit of his own desires"? Associate. Friend. Partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/26 04:24 PM |
| 2 | do you wish to be a purpose for men?I do wish her peace as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/26 04:19 PM |
| 2 | do you wish to be a purpose for men?I say this with all due respect, but the mathematical equation you're forced to run due to your brain wiring is nothing like what those of us without it experience. I agree. And even logically speaking you can't convey that equation totally to another human, so while you think it's being fulfilled. It quite literally can't be. At best your partner is doing an approximation. From experience, my thought process is quite simple and straight forward compared to Neuro typical minds. Anticipating your… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/26 04:19 PM |
| 0 | do you wish to be a purpose for men?Found it. Not in a place. In a person. Because that is how I work | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/26 03:55 PM |
| 0 | No one is entitled to intimacy in marrige, but they are entitled to a healthy relationshipHi FYI, women make our own money now. In fact, more women graduate college and with higher degrees.thsn men now. Single women are more likely to buy a home than a single man. As for protection, well we got that covered also Tell that to Africa and South America. but who do we need protecting from? All those broke sad single men that ask what we bring to the table when you can't even buy a table? Yes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/26 03:53 PM |
| -1 | do you wish to be a purpose for men?You’re pathetic, and if you expect people to feel bad for you with this behavior, you won’t get it. I don't expect that from people. It’s Sad you couldn’t just make something of your life and develop healthy relationships. Good thing I don't care about "healthy" as long as it is "stable" and "functional" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/26 03:51 PM |
| 1 | do you wish to be a purpose for men?You whining that women run away from responsibility in a whiny manner implies that you think it's a bad thing we're not accepting it That is correct. I do believe it is a bad thing. But I don't believe my own moral code should be shared by everyone. and that we should. No. You should not. I will still judge the people that don't meet my moral standards. That does not mean I believe others should meet them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/26 03:49 PM |
| -1 | do you wish to be a purpose for men?How is it my responsibility to be some random guy's raison d'etre? It is not unless you accept it. And you don't. So it isn't. Not surprised that some men here think it is, you act like the universe owes you stuff all the time. Not at all. My position is that the world wants something out of me (productivity, voting for the status quo, being a non disruptive member of society etc) and that is for sale. I know how I want to be paid. As long as I get what I want society gets what it wants from me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/26 03:45 PM |
| 1 | do you wish to be a purpose for men?Got that therapy years ago. Helped with a lot of things. Not with the desire to kiss a moving train. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/26 03:41 PM |
| 1 | No one is entitled to intimacy in marrige, but they are entitled to a healthy relationshipThat is not an equal “trade” between two freely situated adults. There are no freely situated adults. Every single human that has ever been born did not choose in which circumstances/place they would begin their existence. You are deliberately seeking a woman with fewer options and treating her vulnerability as bargaining power. Yes. And her life improves because of it more than it could ever improve without my involvement. Calling it “fully informed consent” does not magically remove coercion w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/26 03:40 PM |
| 2 | No one is entitled to intimacy in marrige, but they are entitled to a healthy relationshipProstitution is not cheaper than marriage unless you are in a tiny minority of high earners. Also as I said before. Prostitutes don't sell long term monogamy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/26 01:37 PM |
| 2 | do you wish to be a purpose for men?That is not a threat. There is nothing concrete. There is no immediacy. There is nothing credible. No indication of how or why or when. All I did is describe what happened historically when two groups of people have objectives that are not compatible to each other. If that is a threat then saying that when people are unhappy with their government they revolt would also be a threat. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/26 01:30 PM |
| 2 | do you wish to be a purpose for men?I did not threat anyone. Please quote me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/26 01:22 PM |
| -5 | do you wish to be a purpose for men?In the same way I am ok with having an employee that is forced to do their job because not doing it means being fired and starving. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/26 01:22 PM |
| 3 | do you wish to be a purpose for men?They need therapy. Got it. Helped. Did not change the fact that the time I spend outside a LTR makes me want to take a bath with a toaster. Genuinely. It’s a serious problem. Men genuinely think they have the right to violate women in to a relationship, marriage, etc. Point to the sentence in which I said anything related to rights. and you see the manipulation from the redditor above you. They’ll do anything to “not be dead,” except change in who they need to be or therapy. Therapy I got. Chang… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/26 01:20 PM |
| 1 | do you wish to be a purpose for men?And what if being dead beats being in a relationship with someone like you? Then that someone is free to choose death. I am not stopping them. You're putting the responsibility of your own mental wellbeing on other people. You speak as if I have any control over it. I don't. Living your own life and finding purpose does not mean forcing others to do what you want them to do. I have only one life and I will use it trying to get the life I want. Any other use of it is a waste. Women not wanting to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/26 01:11 PM |
| 2 | No one is entitled to intimacy in marrige, but they are entitled to a healthy relationshipWell if you’re monogamous and want a relationship, then that’s where compromise and communication comes in. One does not compromise on deal breakers. If you only see your wife as a sex doll for your please and she “should never say no,” there’s a problem. Why would there be a problem? Just be upfront about what you want and find a woman that needs what you bring to the table badly enough that she is willing to pay the price. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/26 12:54 PM |
| -4 | do you wish to be a purpose for men?Being single is better than being with someone that despises you. Speaking from personal perspective. No. Being single kills me. Anything beats being dead. There would be no affection in that "relationship". Why do you want to date so badly that even someone that hates you will do? Because being outside a LTR makes me want to take a bath with a toaster. But let's make it more general and say it in the same way it was said a few comments above. We have only one life. We should do everything we ca… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/26 12:51 PM |
| 1 | do you wish to be a purpose for men?That's horrible. Why would a man want to date a woman that feels forced or manipulated into being with him? For the same reason an employer is ok with having an employee that is forced/manipulated to take the job because they will starve if they don't have a job. A position needs filling and anyone that can fill the position for any reason will do. Isn't being single better than something fake and cruel? No. Being single is never the better option. Do you hear how selfish you sound? Yes. Me sayi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/26 12:38 PM |
| – | Many women here can't seem to differentiate between consent and making a pass at a womanConsent isn't required just to talk to someone ask them out, or flirt. Are you sure about that? It has to be persistent unwanted sexual attention before it crosses into harassment. Define every single term so there is no grey area. Also, define it in such a way that the one initiating the interaction can see it before initiating the interaction son they don't go to jail. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/26 11:12 AM |
| – | Many women here can't seem to differentiate between consent and making a pass at a womanDid she consent to the interaction? Because if there was no enthusiastic consent before the interaction happened then I guess it would be harassment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/26 11:09 AM |
| – | Many women here can't seem to differentiate between consent and making a pass at a womanEvery single initial interaction between a human and another human that did not ask for it can be considered harassment. And the one that asks for it if not invited to do so would be harassing anyways. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/26 11:04 AM |
| -5 | do you wish to be a purpose for men?O can't say I am surprised a woman is running from something that looks like responsibility. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/26 10:52 AM |
| 1 | do you wish to be a purpose for men?Correct. This is not in contradiction with anything I said. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/26 09:52 AM |
| 1 | No one is entitled to intimacy in marrige, but they are entitled to a healthy relationshipSorry, but child rearing and sex are not related and it's a huge stretch to suggest that they are. You can have sex 1000 times and not end up raising a child, you can raise a child that you didn't conceive through sex. You are bunching them together. I am. Because one without the other is not desired. You need to concede that, no matter how pally you are with your male best friend and how many businesses you start with him, he will not help you rear a child for 18 years. For that, you need a rom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/26 09:52 AM |
| 2 | No one is entitled to intimacy in marrige, but they are entitled to a healthy relationshipUnless you're raising a step child or a child conceived through IVF, then it has literally nothing to do with sex. We are talking about what men want to get out of a relationship with a woman. You are talking about a tiny minority of men. Also I'm really not sure why you're bundling 15 minutes of pleasure together with 18 years of responsibility. Because men want those bundled. You know these things are different. You don't need a partner to have sex but you absolutely do need one to raise a chi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/26 06:46 AM |
| 0 | No one is entitled to intimacy in marrige, but they are entitled to a healthy relationshipProstitutes don't sell long term monogamy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/26 06:41 AM |
| 1 | No one is entitled to intimacy in marrige, but they are entitled to a healthy relationshipAnything that involves a child needs sex first because that is the way to get one. (In the context of this discussion) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/26 06:38 AM |
| 3 | No one is entitled to intimacy in marrige, but they are entitled to a healthy relationshipChildrearing is the big one? Sex related Sharing finances/benefits like health insurance? Form a company/business with a man. Jointly owning property? See above Inheritance if one party dies? See above. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/26 06:31 AM |
| 3 | No one is entitled to intimacy in marrige, but they are entitled to a healthy relationshipWhat exactly do you imagine a man is bringing to the table in this transactional relationship? Money and safety. And what do you mean by a woman who wants it badly enough she will pay the price? A woman that can't get those. This sounds like abusive exploitation at best… Voluntary trade between fully informed consenting adults. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/26 06:30 AM |
| -4 | do you wish to be a purpose for men?Are you saying that if too few women will want to date men, men will take it by force and violence so we should do as they say? That's horrible and makes me want to date even less. Not necesarily. There are other ways. Making single life hell to the point that dating any man is a better option comes to mind. Why would dating be someone's entire checklist? Because it is that important. I don't want to be that... Fair | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/26 06:27 AM |
| 0 | do you wish to be a purpose for men?It's not a role another human being could ever fulfill Speaking from experience. It is a role another human can fulfill. To be someone's purpose would be exhausting, and what about your own purpose? Where is the incompatibility? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/26 02:13 AM |
| 1 | do you wish to be a purpose for men?Has it ever occurred to you to center your life around what benefits other people over yourself? Men that get their meaning from having family... kinda do that. The entire point of having a family is that you center your life around what benefits them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/26 02:12 AM |
| -3 | do you wish to be a purpose for men?We only have one life and if someone has better things to do than date it's only fair that they get to spend their lives how they want, don't you think? I mean... it is fair that you spend your only life trying to spend your life the way you want. The thing is that also applies to those men. And what happens when two populations have goals that are opposed to each other? Well... only one gets what they want... usually the one that has a better grasp on violence. I don't want to be part of someon… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/26 02:10 AM |
| 1 | do you wish to be a purpose for men?Just to understand your position. All of those at the same time? Just one of them is enough? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/26 02:06 AM |
| 3 | No one is entitled to intimacy in marrige, but they are entitled to a healthy relationshipI am all about being open about what you want from the beginning. That being said is it hard to think that pretty much everything women can give to a man they can get from friendships except everything that is sex related? Seriously. Think about it and tell me if there is anything non sex related that women can give to men without men being able to get the same thing from other men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/26 11:48 PM |
| 1 | No one is entitled to intimacy in marrige, but they are entitled to a healthy relationshipWell yeah he communicated he wanted sex, and I told him when I didn't and when I did. That is not propper communication. To communicate properly he would have to tell you that he will want sex every single night consistently before you decided to date him. That way if you accepted it is on you. I envy not being wanted for only my body or what I can offer physically, I will gladly trade. Sadly that is not possible. I personally believe humans are bodies and being desired for your body is the only… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/26 10:45 PM |
| 1 | No one is entitled to intimacy in marrige, but they are entitled to a healthy relationshipSometimes, it's the man wanting it every damn night, like it's a chore, and that is highly unromantic. I can see how that might be seen as unromantic. I hope communicated clearly what he wanted. I am sure he did not. My ex wanted it consistently, every single night, without fail, after I have been working all day, and if I didn't want to, I was looking elsewhere, or I "didn't love him anymore." That is just stupid. Why assume the worst when the most likely explanation is that humans are rarely t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/26 10:17 PM |
| 2 | No one is entitled to intimacy in marrige, but they are entitled to a healthy relationshipIf a man can't afford a hooker, he can't afford a wife. Hookers are more expensive than a wife in the long run for most men. That only changes for a tiny minority of high earners. Also, you are ignoring what I say. Hookers don't sell monogamy. I'm assuming that men who only value sex are pathetic individuals who have nothing of value themselves. Who said anything about only? You can value a lot of things and still have sex as a must have. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/26 10:02 PM |
| -5 | No one is entitled to intimacy in marrige, but they are entitled to a healthy relationshipAn alternative. Find a woman that needs what you bring to the table badly enough that she pays the price to get it. All relationships are transactional. Why be with someone if you don't have enough leverage in the negotiation to get what you want from the relationship? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/26 10:00 PM |
| 0 | No one is entitled to intimacy in marrige, but they are entitled to a healthy relationshipVery weird to get married for sex. Especially because marriage doesn't guarantee sex. Losing the relationship guarantees temporary lack of sex and increases the chances of not getting any sex until death. The only sex guarantee is with paid professionals. Not even that. You are assuming the man can afford it forever. Let alone the fact that men want . monogamy and prostitutes don't sell that. So y'all are better off paying for sex. Instead of getting into relationships and demanding sex. See abo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/26 09:57 PM |
| -3 | No one is entitled to intimacy in marrige, but they are entitled to a healthy relationshipWeird to get married for sex. Not weird at all. Men don't get options and losing a partner risks being alone until death. Without sex. Also weird to marry someone and value sex over their emotional state. Weirder for sure. But not entirely illogical. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/26 09:53 PM |
| – | Women Aren't Playing the Victim. Red Pill Men Don't Understand Consent.Would you prefer to leave a positive impact on other peoples' lives, or a negative one? The option that gets me what I want in return. As a general rule, that means that I prefer to leave a positive impact. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/26 06:32 AM |
| – | Women Aren't Playing the Victim. Red Pill Men Don't Understand Consent.but there are illegal things which are very commonplace. Due to lack of enforcement | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/26 06:31 AM |
| -1 | What kind of personality do you like?anyone who might have any other options is a turn off? Not a turn off. Not a dealbreaker. Just a negative point to be considered. You want to be with someone who is only with you because they don’t have other options? Ideally, yes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/26 09:28 AM |
| -1 | What kind of personality do you like?What I want is someone that will stay in the relationship. Any trait that increases the likelihood of her leaving the relationship is a negative. Not necessarily a deal breaker but a negative. Confidence, extroverted. Negative. Funny is an irrelevant trait. I can make my own fun. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/26 01:32 AM |
| 1 | Common law marriages should not exist and are legal scams and are unfair to menWhy stop there? Considering common law marriage exists to force people that don't want to be married to be married anyways why not go one step beyond and creare common law marriage+ that does not require cohabitation? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/26 01:25 AM |
| 2 | Common law marriages should not exist and are legal scams and are unfair to menAs it stands, if maximal human freedom results in maximal harm to other humans, then I think the scales should be modified to minimize harm than to maximize choice. Then fuck freedom it is. Which is fair. Just a difference in which value we put above others. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/26 01:18 AM |
| 1 | Common law marriages should not exist and are legal scams and are unfair to menTo pool resources is living together. Both parties are putting in their resources for a shared home. Not really. You can pool resources for any kind of lifestyle. Everything in 1 name and separate living isn't pooling resources. See above. "Pooling" in this context means to share. They share resources. They don't share a roof. Restaurant works will pool tips. Meaning they'll split the tips from that evening. So you do understand that you can pool resources even if you don't live together. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/26 12:48 AM |
| 1 | Common law marriages should not exist and are legal scams and are unfair to menWhy not? That is the situation I am creating to illustrate the point. Resources are pooled. Then everything is bought under one name. Both people live in separate homes. Since there is no cohabitation there is no common law marriage. Under that situation there is pooling of resources but because there is no cohabitation common law marriage does not apply. That means that common law marriage is not designed to apply in situations that have pooling of resources. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/26 12:42 AM |
| 2 | Common law marriages should not exist and are legal scams and are unfair to menI described a situation in which resources are pooled. Everything is in one name and there is no cohabitation. Same risks as cohabiting without marriage. The conditions for common law marriage to apply are not met. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/26 12:31 AM |
| 3 | Common law marriages should not exist and are legal scams and are unfair to menIf a woman gets pregnant she has less and less options to stop it. Stop what? Consequences? Adoption and abortion. Men can just run away. The law forces him to pay. That is already illegal. Its not just forced to have kids. He is forced to pay. Its period management and other health issues that are being destroyed even in the US. Huh? What are you talking about? Women's jobs get less pay. Those are the consequences of accepting a job that pays less. Teachers were higher paid till it became a wom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/26 12:07 AM |
| 2 | Common law marriages should not exist and are legal scams and are unfair to menYou're acting as if someone can trick someone into a legal marriage. Both people have to agree they are common law married. You can trick the state. I don't care about what people think. I care about what the state will enforce. It just means people who live together as a couple, who view each other as husband and wife, who do not want the government or a religious institution to be involved with their marriage. It isn't just living together. It is about acting as husband and wife while living t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 11:56 PM |
| 2 | Common law marriages should not exist and are legal scams and are unfair to menAnd that particular kind of binary thought is incredibly popular amongst my peers on the spectrum. Not black or white. A hierarchy of values can consider a lot of them. When two values collide the one above wins. Black-and-white thinking on the subject of how to organize society is not a productive method for discerning the most effective means of ensuring collective human flourishing, friend. Why should human flourishing be the end goal? Let's say I came to know with full certainty that removin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 11:54 PM |
| 2 | Common law marriages should not exist and are legal scams and are unfair to menThe concept of actual common law marriage is where BOTH couples declare themselves married without the INTERFERENCE of state or religion because they cohabitate and act as a married couple. That is why mostly only red states, it is still legal Except that marriage is not cohabitation and "acting like". Marriage is a legal institution that creates legal obligations. Especially when divorce happens. Its basically a couple saying "fuck you government. We have been living together for 45 years and h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 11:49 PM |
| 1 | Common law marriages should not exist and are legal scams and are unfair to menForcing people to be legally married when they were not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 11:46 PM |
| 2 | Common law marriages should not exist and are legal scams and are unfair to menWell fuck freedom it is. Either freedom is above all other values or whatever value is above it justifies removing all freedoms. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 11:45 PM |
| 8 | Common law marriages should not exist and are legal scams and are unfair to menWhat's i am advocating is that if you enter into a legal situation in which you have no protection then you have no protection. You made a bad decision and you should suffer the consequences | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 11:42 PM |
| 2 | Common law marriages should not exist and are legal scams and are unfair to menBecause that's not the point of it. It is meant to protect people who may have pooled recourse into a dwelling via paying for the mortgage etc amd bills if things end. Bullshit. The condition is cohabitation. Not pooling of resources. If we pool our resources. Have two homes. We live separately. All is in my name. There is no common law marriage. Ie if you and your gf buy a house together, and it is under her name and you pay half or most of the mortgage every year then she cheats on you before … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 11:41 PM |
| 2 | Common law marriages should not exist and are legal scams and are unfair to menWhich is, in my opinion, ample evidence that there needs to be some external social impetus for people to look out for each other. So... People don't want to pay for others so we should just force them to pay for others? Who needs freedom? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 11:36 PM |
| 0 | Common law marriages should not exist and are legal scams and are unfair to menWhy should the law stop there? Why not create "common law marriage+" that requires no cohabitation? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 11:30 PM |
| 3 | Common law marriages should not exist and are legal scams and are unfair to menMaybe that is because people don't agree and they are not willing to pay for that safety net unless they are forced by the state | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 11:29 PM |
| 3 | Common law marriages should not exist and are legal scams and are unfair to menThis is monstrous logic, you understand that, right? If the majority of people agrees then there would be no need for the state to force people to help. People would just donate and help. They would create the social protections without any legal obligation to do so. You're advocating for a world absent social protections for poor choices, and that necessarily affords the highest social advantage to anyone willing to take advantage of others. See above | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 11:26 PM |
| 3 | Common law marriages should not exist and are legal scams and are unfair to menThe consequences of their actions. Don't intervene through the state and let the chips fall where they may. If free people decide to help them fine. If no one helps them fine as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 11:23 PM |
| 4 | Common law marriages should not exist and are legal scams and are unfair to menWhat, in your estimation, is the consequence of building a society around giving everyone what they deserve? The attempt of building that society leads to the idiots revolting and since they are a majority they win and we end up right where we are today. You don't do the right thing because of the consequences of doing the right thing. You do it because it is the right thing to do. Bonus points are on the table if you can guess the immediate follow-up question to that one. Go ahead. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 11:18 PM |
| 0 | Common law marriages should not exist and are legal scams and are unfair to menYou did not address the point. Common law marriage exists to force people that don't want to be married to be married anyways when they fulfill the condition of living together. If people that don't want to be married decide to not live together then the principle that creates common law marriage remains. It follows then that in order to force them to be married anyways we create another institution that forces them to be married under a different set of circumstances. Why stop there? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 11:13 PM |
| 3 | Common law marriages should not exist and are legal scams and are unfair to menIt protects idiots, and the unlucky. That is rewarding them. I don't care about the unlucky they are not part of this discussion. Not taking a smart decision is not lack of luck. That protection affords them the ability to become less of an idiot Why should they have that chance if they did not earned it? Why should we force others to pay for that chance. Let charities afford that chance. There are enough good people in the world. and to have a better run of things in the future. They did not ea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 11:11 PM |
| 4 | Common law marriages should not exist and are legal scams and are unfair to menThe argument is that the incentive structure rewards idiots and punishes non idiots. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 11:00 PM |
| -2 | Common law marriages should not exist and are legal scams and are unfair to menCommon law marriage exists to force people that don't want to be married to be in the exact same legal position than married people. Come on. Make it make sense. Since the entire point is to force people into the legal framework of marriage then why stop there? Why don't go one step beyond and create "common law marriage+" Same legal obligations just after the relationship lasts 3 years even if there is no cohabitation? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 10:59 PM |
| 3 | Common law marriages should not exist and are legal scams and are unfair to menAdults making stupid choices deserve a measure of insulation from the worst possible outcomes of those decisions by virtue of existing in a society that should endeavor to look out for even the most vulnerable of us. So we create an incentive structure that rewards the one that make stupid choices and make the one making smart choices pay for them. Creating the incentive structure for those that make smart choices to make another smart choice and either leave that country or take their money to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 10:54 PM |
| -1 | Common law marriages should not exist and are legal scams and are unfair to menPlease elaborate. Give an example. I believe we are not having the same circumstance in mind. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 10:49 PM |
| 5 | Common law marriages should not exist and are legal scams and are unfair to menIf an adult makes a poor decision, consequences are inevitable Are they? Because institutions like common law marriage make those consequences quite evitable but that inevitability is not a moral stance on the righteousness of those consequences. How can adults making stupid choices being spared the consequences of their actions to the detriment of other adults that did not make stupid choices end up being anything other than immoral? Being careless should result in worse circumstances than bein… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 10:44 PM |
| 6 | Common law marriages should not exist and are legal scams and are unfair to menThis is a remarkably troubling premise. It is not. If you don't have insurance then you pay out of your own pocket. How far does this principle extend? To adults. As I said. The law should not protect adults from the consequences of their reckless and stupid behavior. Would you include children who don't know self-preservation? Adults. The disabled who often lack the means to self-preserve? If they are adult and of sound mind, then they should be responsible for the consequences of their actions… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 10:36 PM |
| 1 | Many have a twisted view on Dating because failing as Men is something completely different then failing as WomanAt this point we are going to go in circles. Can't we accept for the sake of discussion only that I am telling the truth? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 10:34 PM |
| 8 | Common law marriages should not exist and are legal scams and are unfair to menIf you choose to do it in a way in which you have no legal protection. Yes. If you choose to act in a way that does not protect you, you deserve no protection. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 10:31 PM |
| 7 | Common law marriages should not exist and are legal scams and are unfair to menIt deserves having no legal access to your partner's resources. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 10:28 PM |
| 1 | Many have a twisted view on Dating because failing as Men is something completely different then failing as WomanI am not taking revenge on anyone. I define what I want from my partner by looking at her past. This has nothing to do with revenge. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 10:27 PM |
| 5 | Common law marriages should not exist and are legal scams and are unfair to menDeciding to date someone, not marry them and becoming dependent on them is a bad decision that deserves consequences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 10:24 PM |
| 1 | Common law marriages should not exist and are legal scams and are unfair to menBecause one is in control of your actions and one is forcing the other to do something they may not want to. Or... you leave the relationship and are no longer in a relationship without legal protection. Which is under your control. Boundaries are you saying you will remove yourself, not you are going to force yourself. Use the threat of leaving. If you are a woman then that has a good chance to work. So you can say I refuse to move in with you because I’m not ready for that level of commitment.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 10:24 PM |
| 1 | Common law marriages should not exist and are legal scams and are unfair to menThere is an either or. Accept the law as it is, therefore your position is correct "If you don't want to be in a common law marriage don't live with your partner" or Consider the law to be wrong. "If you don't want to be in a relationship without any legal protection then marry your partner" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 10:19 PM |
| 5 | Common law marriages should not exist and are legal scams and are unfair to menInstead of saying "If you don't want to be in a common law marriage don't live with your partner" it is equally valid to say "If you don't want to be in a relationship without any legal protection then marry your partner" Why should we accept one instead of the other? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 10:16 PM |
| 2 | Common law marriages should not exist and are legal scams and are unfair to menfix the twenty systemic problems that make common-law marriage necessary That is the thing. Those are not problems. Those are consequences that adults get when they make bad decisions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 10:12 PM |
| 3 | Common law marriages should not exist and are legal scams and are unfair to menIf you don't want to be in one, don't live with your partner. Why not just say "If you don't want to be without legal protection just marry your partner"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 10:08 PM |
| 0 | Many have a twisted view on Dating because failing as Men is something completely different then failing as WomanNotice how I did not mention sex. I mentioned fairness. It is about something way more all ecompasing than just sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 09:43 PM |
| 1 | Many have a twisted view on Dating because failing as Men is something completely different then failing as WomanI am not going to say that doubting internet entities is wrong but what is the point of interacting with them if you are just going to deny them the benefit of the doubt? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 09:41 PM |
| 1 | Many have a twisted view on Dating because failing as Men is something completely different then failing as WomanNo. She never tolerated beatings from previous partners. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 09:41 PM |
| 1 | Many have a twisted view on Dating because failing as Men is something completely different then failing as WomanI am not lonely. I found my partner ten years ago. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 09:25 PM |
| 1 | Many have a twisted view on Dating because failing as Men is something completely different then failing as WomanA woman that rejects me is a woman that is incompatible with me. That is the point. The garbage takes itself out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 09:20 PM |
| 0 | Many have a twisted view on Dating because failing as Men is something completely different then failing as WomanIf she was an abuse victim. Yes. If she was not, no. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 08:43 PM |
| 0 | Many have a twisted view on Dating because failing as Men is something completely different then failing as WomanI want her best as defined by her past. If that means the relationship fails so be it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 08:42 PM |
| 1 | Many have a twisted view on Dating because failing as Men is something completely different then failing as WomanI want her best as defined by her past. It is not a punishment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 08:42 PM |
| -1 | Many have a twisted view on Dating because failing as Men is something completely different then failing as WomanDoes not change the fact that I want everything my partner did with, did to, and tolerated from previous partners. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 06:00 PM |
| 1 | Many have a twisted view on Dating because failing as Men is something completely different then failing as WomanI do see myself as an object too. I don't feel any remorse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 05:59 PM |
| 1 | Many have a twisted view on Dating because failing as Men is something completely different then failing as WomanI don't feel anything towards anyone. Love for me is not a feeling but a set of actions. Putting the happiness and well being of another human as close to the top of my priority list as I can. My nature is such that I don't feel any difference between humans and objects. I can understand the difference in a way that is purely intellectual, but all are seen as tools. Some more complex than others. Some require specific kind of mainteneance. I don't have remorse. So all that keeps me following my … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 03:05 PM |
| 1 | Many have a twisted view on Dating because failing as Men is something completely different then failing as WomanYea, you need to move on too haha. One past is bad enough, you want to take on the mantle of both of your pasts. Need to? Looks like you haven't suffered enough due to past. Because I a careful about what I do for/with tolerate from others. You have got time and life will give you opportunities. It's only starting for you, suffering starts. One day you will look back and think what have I done. Nah. I act in such a way that I never regret my decisions. No, relationships are what you make it. You… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 02:59 PM |
| 1 | Many have a twisted view on Dating because failing as Men is something completely different then failing as WomanYou may get what you want from a relationship which also makes you feel how uncaring nature is. I don't know about my nature. I know about my actions. My partner gets what she wants from the relationship as well. If she wants me to be caring I will be. Is your relationship transactional? All relationships are transactional. I just make it explicit from the get go. When people move on completely, relationships are blank slates. My partner can move on as much as they want. What I want is defined b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 02:43 PM |
| 0 | Many have a twisted view on Dating because failing as Men is something completely different then failing as WomanThat's not what your partner wants. That is called incompatibility. I want fairness, she does not want to give it. Then no relationship happens at all. I am quite open about what I want before the relationship starts. They broke up for a reason. She is moved on from her past and you can't? Don't you see a problem here? I don't. If she does not bring fairness to the relationship I don't want a relationship with her. She is choosing you and wants to live with you. No. She is choosing unfairness. O… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 01:55 PM |
| 0 | Many have a twisted view on Dating because failing as Men is something completely different then failing as WomanI broke up with him after he called me stupid once. Good for you. In this scenario you did not tolerate being called stupid so I would not be interested in it. Why do you want to mistreat women? I don't. I want everything my partner did with, did to, and tolerated from previous partners. If she did not tolerate/did X, then I don't want X. X can be anything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 01:47 PM |
| 1 | Many have a twisted view on Dating because failing as Men is something completely different then failing as WomanFairness? yes A new relationship is a blank slate. Write your own story, build your own life. What I want from a relationship is my partner's best. If my partner has a past that means that everything she did for, did with and tolerated from previous partners is part of said best. Her past defines what I want. Fairness, in your context is comparison, which is again, a disease. Fairness can only exist in comparison so I give you that. And I don't see why it is a disease. Fairness is what separates… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 01:45 PM |
| 0 | Many have a twisted view on Dating because failing as Men is something completely different then failing as WomanAnd I don't care. I want the best my partner can give and everything she did for, did with and tolerated from previous partners is part of that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 01:44 PM |
| 1 | Many have a twisted view on Dating because failing as Men is something completely different then failing as WomanSo I briefly dated a guy once whom I broke up with because he called me stupid. I don't have enough information. All I know is that you broke up with him for that reason. For the sake of argument lets say he called you stupid 10 times before you decided it was enough and you dumped him. This means my husband is entitled to call me stupid? What if he doesn’t think I’m stupid? There is no entitlement. I am not talking about a rule that should apply to all men. I am talking about myself. I expect f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 01:43 PM |
| 0 | Many have a twisted view on Dating because failing as Men is something completely different then failing as WomanI didn't say it was alright. I said it is fair to expect your partner to treat you in the same way they treated previous partners. That includes everything did for, did with and tolerated from previous partners. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 01:35 PM |
| 1 | Many have a twisted view on Dating because failing as Men is something completely different then failing as WomanPoint is you may be incompetent to do that. Irrelevant. If competency is needed I will get it. The previous partner could be a cuck, would you be capable of being a competent cuck? Yes. Fairness comes first. Or the previous partner can be a bdsm specialist, would be competent to be a bdsm specialist ? Yes. Fairness comes first. Comparison is a disease, a psychological one. Fairness is not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 01:34 PM |
| 1 | Many have a twisted view on Dating because failing as Men is something completely different then failing as WomanI see no argument about why expecting fairness is bad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 01:33 PM |
| 0 | Many have a twisted view on Dating because failing as Men is something completely different then failing as WomanOne guy even said he would not feel it was fair unless he got to domestically abuse her to make it even with what “Chad” gets to do lol. That would be me. And it seems to be a misinterpretation. I said that what I want for the sake of fairness is the same treatment previous partners got. That includes everything did for, did with and tolerated from previous partners. If there was no abuse accepted from previous partners then that is not something I want out of fairness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 01:22 PM |
| 1 | Many have a twisted view on Dating because failing as Men is something completely different then failing as WomanThank you for defining the term. I thought it meant something else. Now it makes sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 01:18 PM |
| 1 | Many have a twisted view on Dating because failing as Men is something completely different then failing as Womanhow often gets a man "pumped and dumped" Average guy? Close to never. He would consider it good if it happened. why not really? Because women take advantage of men without having sex with them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 01:14 PM |
| 1 | Many have a twisted view on Dating because failing as Men is something completely different then failing as WomanThat's absolutely not true a lot of those guys who are unattractive also just want sex and don't have honest intentions Why care about intentions? What about caring about actions? Is he providing what she wants in a relationship? Is it likely that he will continue to provide what she wants in a relationship? If the answer is "yes" his motivations are irrelevant to reality Being an unattractive man doesn't automatically make you a nice guy. Correct. A lot of those guys are still guys and just wan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 01:12 PM |
| 0 | Many have a twisted view on Dating because failing as Men is something completely different then failing as WomanIf a men gets interest from a woman, Men know that in 99% of the cases its absolutely real and honest interest. Not really. But I do understand that men don't have a biological clock For a woman its a pure wildcard. she could think she found the one but the guy jumps the moment something better comes or its get complicated Then date a man that is not attractive. He will not have something better in the future and no matter how complicated things get, being an incel is worst so he is not leaving.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 01:08 PM |
| 1 | I find that guys that don't try to befriend women (typically the nice guys) are the most boring, no wonder you don't get womenYou can do all of these things while not truly loving them. Yes. And that is an argument that supports the idea that love is not a relevant trait when picking a romantic partner or a friend. The traits that make someone a good romantic partner or a good friend are separate (though not opposite) to truly loving someone. I think being interested in and trying to know someone are what define loving someone. Thank you for defining the term. I think that is the point in which there is disagreement. I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/26 12:02 AM |
| 3 | I find that guys that don't try to befriend women (typically the nice guys) are the most boring, no wonder you don't get womenYes, this is mostly based on my feelings. Did you consider the posibility that maybe decision should be made on something more grounded than "feelings"? I have been thinking for a long time that guys who are uninterested in befriending girls are also the most boring in dating. Why do you feel/think that "fun" is a trait that should be relevant enough in dating to the point of being the deciding factor on who do you choose as a partner? Should I reject a woman that would be a great mother because… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/26 10:42 PM |
| 2 | I find that guys that don't try to befriend women (typically the nice guys) are the most boring, no wonder you don't get womenSome of these traits are necessary in both cases. I can agree with this. Some traits are necesary for both roles. Loyalty, reliability. I don't se how "fun" is one of those traits. I d say a romantic partner is someone you should respect enough to consider them a possible friend. Why do you believe that "respect" has anything to do with either friends or romantic partners? Respect is not the thing that makes someone a friend nor a romantic partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/26 10:14 PM |
| 3 | I find that guys that don't try to befriend women (typically the nice guys) are the most boring, no wonder you don't get womenThe idea is that some men are only interested in women in that context, but won't befriend them. I feel like a lot of guys don't think of women as friend material. There is nothing wrong with this. The traits required to be a good friend are different from the traits required to be a good romantic partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/26 09:49 PM |
| 3 | I find that guys that don't try to befriend women (typically the nice guys) are the most boring, no wonder you don't get womenLets try to adress everything here. I've found work in a city that's quite far from where I'm from, it is a very boring city and my coworkers are all older than me. There is 1 person who happens to be my age and it's a guy. I was quite happy when he got hired because I felt like I had finally a friend my age. He is also in a similar situation, new to this city, freshly hired, no friends here. Thank you for the context. Will take it into consideration. But every time we hang out it feels kinda li… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/26 09:39 PM |
| 2 | If you want your moral character to matter in dating, you have to also care about character in others.Interacting and lack of interacting greatly affects your observations. Correct. Interacting messes up observations. Observation without interaction leads to better research. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/26 05:01 PM |
| 3 | If you want your moral character to matter in dating, you have to also care about character in others.Observation does not require interaction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/26 03:19 PM |
| 3 | If you want your moral character to matter in dating, you have to also care about character in others.We in PPD established that. Outside, in he real world, the narrative is that men and women are equal and women don't want to be aproached. Ever. If you do it you are harassing them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/26 02:49 PM |
| 1 | Most men don't see women as they really are.Ok. Equal treatment then. I am ok with that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/26 01:15 PM |
| 3 | If you want your moral character to matter in dating, you have to also care about character in others.Just another example of you getting something completely different from the literal meaning in the words that are said to you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/26 12:47 PM |
| 5 | If you want your moral character to matter in dating, you have to also care about character in others.How do you manage to understand something so different from the literal meaning of the sentence you are replying to? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/26 01:42 AM |
| – | If sex isn’t something to be ashamed of, then don’t hide your desires for it.Precisely because I am a sociopath I am able to follow a code of ethics for the code itself instead of doing it because I "feel bad when doing bad things". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/26 01:04 PM |
| 2 | Women don’t actually need men anymore. So what incentive is left for commitment?Sure. I am not dead weight. I bring whatever my partner wants me to bring. Because I do so I am unable to know if what is valued is me the person or the benefit I bring to the table. Which is perfectly acceptable don't get me wrong. But that does not change the fact that the only way to know for sure that the one being valued is me is to not being anything to the table. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/26 07:35 PM |
| 2 | Women don’t actually need men anymore. So what incentive is left for commitment?That would be the monogamy part. Yes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/26 07:33 PM |
| 2 | Women don’t actually need men anymore. So what incentive is left for commitment?That is not commitment. Commitment in the context of this discussion: no sex with other humans for the foreseeable future if possible forever with the desire and plan to continue the arrangement until one of people involved die. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/26 05:01 PM |
| 2 | Women don’t actually need men anymore. So what incentive is left for commitment?Sure. The problem is commitment. Roommates don't commit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/26 04:27 PM |
| 1 | Progressive women suddenly know who the “losers” are when it comes to datingHuman rights? Another arbitrary idea that seems popular now but does not exist in any other way other than as something made up. Why should we care about human rights instead of caring about equality applied to every aspect of existence? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/26 01:59 PM |
| – | Progressive women suddenly know who the “losers” are when it comes to datingAnd why should limit equality only to opportunities instead of applying it to everything? Seems arbitrary. If we can be arbitrary then we can be arbitrary in many ways and not only in the way you like it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/26 01:58 PM |
| – | Progressive women suddenly know who the “losers” are when it comes to datingAnd why should I accept equality of opportunity and reject all other kinds of equality? Seems arbitrary. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/26 01:16 PM |
| – | Progressive women suddenly know who the “losers” are when it comes to datingEither equality is valuable in itself and applies to everything or it is not valuable in itself and anyone can apply it or not in any scenario based on anything or nothing at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/26 01:15 PM |
| – | Progressive women suddenly know who the “losers” are when it comes to datingIf that was an option, yes. Maybe the growing support for such an extreme position will wake up society to bring a solution before that party wins an election. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/26 01:14 PM |
| – | Progressive women suddenly know who the “losers” are when it comes to datingYes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/26 01:13 PM |
| – | Progressive women suddenly know who the “losers” are when it comes to datingThere is no difference in the dating model. But it allows people to not give a fuck about equality in all other aspects as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/26 01:13 PM |
| – | Progressive women suddenly know who the “losers” are when it comes to datingI am ok with equality being applied in everything. I don't know why you try to mention it as if it was something I would be opposed to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/26 12:07 PM |
| – | Progressive women suddenly know who the “losers” are when it comes to datingit is not valuable in itself and anyone can choose to apply it or not based on anything or nothing at all. Ok. This option then. Equality only when you like it and never if you don't like it. Well I like different things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/26 12:06 PM |
| – | Progressive women suddenly know who the “losers” are when it comes to datingit is not valuable in itself and anyone can choose to apply it or not based on anything or nothing at all. This option then | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/26 12:05 PM |
| – | Progressive women suddenly know who the “losers” are when it comes to datingit is not valuable in itself and anyone can choose to apply it or not based on anything or nothing at all. Ok. This option then. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/26 11:48 AM |
| – | Progressive women suddenly know who the “losers” are when it comes to datingIt is inconsistent to believe in equality for some things but to apply it only in other things. Either equality is valuable in itself and should apply to everything or it is not valuable in itself and anyone can choose to apply it or not based on anything or nothing at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/26 11:44 AM |
| – | Progressive women suddenly know who the “losers” are when it comes to datingI am not OP but I can say that my vote (support) is for sale and I know how I want to get paid. As long as I get what I want I will vote for status quo. If I am not getting what I want I will vote for whoever wants to change things in the opposite direction in the most radical way available. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/26 10:53 AM |
| – | Progressive women suddenly know who the “losers” are when it comes to datingI don't understand how/why men keep trying to relate dating preferences to politics. The reason is consistency. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/26 10:51 AM |
| – | Progressive women suddenly know who the “losers” are when it comes to datingGod forbid one might be consistent. I don't believe anyone has the obligation to be consistent but I will lose respect for people that are not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/26 10:50 AM |
| 2 | Women don’t actually need men anymore. So what incentive is left for commitment?If that was the offer and there was commitment then it would be worth considering. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/26 01:09 AM |
| – | Q4M: Would you ever pay for a woman’s vanity procedures?Yes. I would pay. If she tries to use the assets I pay for to find another man she better get results on the first attempt because I will know about it and the next one will be significantly harder. There are few things that would make me want to pursue revenge. That is one of them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/26 10:12 PM |
| 2 | Women don’t actually need men anymore. So what incentive is left for commitment?Then they stop being single. Because there is no commitment to remain single. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/26 09:44 PM |
| 3 | Women don’t actually need men anymore. So what incentive is left for commitment?When I was younger, I did a lot of trying on different shapes. It was good for that period of my life when I was learning who I was and what worked for me. But I also spent a lot of time figuring out who I was alone, and what was important to me individually. On my way to get to my 40s and I learned that having a shape of my own is nothing but an obstacle. Be like water. Shapeless. Flow or crash, but in the shape of the container it is in. And in some ways there is a lot of flexibility - my inte… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/26 09:32 PM |
| 3 | Women don’t actually need men anymore. So what incentive is left for commitment?Roommates don't provide monogamy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/26 09:21 PM |
| 2 | Women don’t actually need men anymore. So what incentive is left for commitment?I don't know why. I have yet to meet a woman that has no demands other than monogamy, be an adult, be alive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/26 09:03 PM |
| 2 | Women don’t actually need men anymore. So what incentive is left for commitment?I don't understand the question. Please re phrase. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/26 08:55 PM |
| 1 | Women don’t actually need men anymore. So what incentive is left for commitment?I can think of two reasons why I would change to fit whatever shape of dull I need to fit. First one is that I want to be in a relationship and I am a man without an abundance of options. I Don't get to reduce the pool. Staying alone is not acceptable. If that were not the case I would consider not changing. Second reason is that I don't have any shape of my own. I have the shape I need at the moment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/26 08:45 PM |
| 1 | Women don’t actually need men anymore. So what incentive is left for commitment?Ok. Fair point. You make a good argument. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/26 08:36 PM |
| 1 | Women don’t actually need men anymore. So what incentive is left for commitment?Ok. Fair point. You make a good argument. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/26 08:36 PM |
| 1 | Women don’t actually need men anymore. So what incentive is left for commitment?Ok. Fair point. You make a good argument. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/26 08:35 PM |
| 1 | Women don’t actually need men anymore. So what incentive is left for commitment?Ok. Fair point. You make a good argument. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/26 08:35 PM |
| 1 | Women don’t actually need men anymore. So what incentive is left for commitment?Ok. Fair point. You make a good argument. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/26 08:35 PM |
| 1 | Women don’t actually need men anymore. So what incentive is left for commitment?Ok. Fair point. You make a good argument. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/26 08:35 PM |
| 1 | Women don’t actually need men anymore. So what incentive is left for commitment?Ok. Fair point. You make a good argument. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/26 08:35 PM |
| 3 | Women don’t actually need men anymore. So what incentive is left for commitment?Ok. Fair point. You make a good argument. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/26 08:35 PM |
| 1 | Women don’t actually need men anymore. So what incentive is left for commitment?Not my own value. Every single human's value. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/26 08:25 PM |
| 2 | Women don’t actually need men anymore. So what incentive is left for commitment?Working from the comment that started this thread. If there is no reason to date/commit to someone that you find boring/not fun... Then there is no reason to stay when they become boring/not fun | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/26 08:24 PM |
| -3 | Women don’t actually need men anymore. So what incentive is left for commitment?Is that intrinsic human value in the room with us? Any evidence for it's existence? Or is it just a popular idea with no basis on reality like "human rights"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/26 08:23 PM |
| 3 | Women don’t actually need men anymore. So what incentive is left for commitment?This thread begun from a post that said Because I want to be able to bond with, enjoy my time with and do stuff with my partner? Now that that is no longer an option then there is no reason to stay with this partner. They were chosen. Because they could bond with and enjoy time with and do stuff together. Now they can't | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/26 08:19 PM |
| 3 | Women don’t actually need men anymore. So what incentive is left for commitment?In control over myself and how much joy I get out of whatever action I need to do. I don't need people to change for me or do what I find fun. I can change to do whatever and find fun doing it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/26 08:17 PM |
| 2 | Women don’t actually need men anymore. So what incentive is left for commitment?I can only answer for myself, of course, but - Thank you for your perspective. There are a few parts of this. I can't have a serious relationship if I can't connect with them both emotionally and intellectually. If it is an inability then there is nothing to be done. If it is a preference then I guess it can be changed. I have a colorful and exciting life already. Spending time with someone who is dull gets frustrating pretty quickly. Usually for both of us, if they're bright enough to understan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/26 08:16 PM |
| 3 | Women don’t actually need men anymore. So what incentive is left for commitment?I mean he could change and stop being fun. Maybe because of something that changes his outlook on life. Doesn't matter why. Then it will be a burden of performance or a reason for a break up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/26 08:10 PM |
| 3 | Women don’t actually need men anymore. So what incentive is left for commitment?I only require that if she has demands I need to meet in order to qualify as a potential partner. All women on earth have those kind of demands so I expect sex. But assuming a woman expects nothing from me I will gladly return the favor. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/26 08:09 PM |
| 3 | Women don’t actually need men anymore. So what incentive is left for commitment?I don't understand why the idea of being dead weight is so attractive to so many people. The only way to know if you are actually valued is to see if you are valued when you bring nothing to the table. When you are dead weight. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/26 08:07 PM |
| 3 | Women don’t actually need men anymore. So what incentive is left for commitment?Ok. Not all the time. But a percentage of the time. And that percentage will not always be met. Unless it is a performance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/26 08:03 PM |
| 3 | Women don’t actually need men anymore. So what incentive is left for commitment?Why are you framing being fun as a thing that requires a personality change or "burden of performance? It does not necessarily need a personality change. You can vet for compatibility but that reduces the pool of available options. It does require a burden of performance because no one is fun all the time and also, people tend to change. " Do you have friends? When you and a friend have fun, is it because one of you has changed themselves for the other? I do have friends and I am the one changin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/26 08:01 PM |
| 2 | Women don’t actually need men anymore. So what incentive is left for commitment?Considering all I said I don't know how you get to that conclusion. I literally said that I would be the one changing and molding myself to what my partner wants. What makes you think that I want an empty vessel? I don't care if it's empty or full or whatever it has inside. I will change to fit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/26 08:00 PM |
| -1 | Women don’t actually need men anymore. So what incentive is left for commitment?Lucky you. Not an option. But if you have it then use it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/26 07:49 PM |
| 0 | Women don’t actually need men anymore. So what incentive is left for commitment?I don't prioritize compatibility. I build it. So it is entirely under my control. My partner has to say yes. From then on I am the one that will change to suit the needs of the moment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/26 07:46 PM |
| 1 | Women don’t actually need men anymore. So what incentive is left for commitment?Seems fair. Even if somewhat unsustainable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/26 07:39 PM |
| 3 | Women don’t actually need men anymore. So what incentive is left for commitment?Sure..I get that. And when I want that it is me the one that changes so I become able to bond and do things with my partner while enjoying the time together. I don't expect my partner to be fun/not boring. I would rather be in control and not put a burden of performance on someone else. Let alone the fact that looking for someone that I find fun without any change from my part reduces the pool of options available. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/26 07:33 PM |
| 2 | Not having sex is an acceptable outcomeConsidering the fact that you need consent then you do need to ask the same question again and again. You can't skip that step. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/26 07:27 PM |
| -4 | Women don’t actually need men anymore. So what incentive is left for commitment?Just out of curiosity. Why does "fun"/"not boring" enter into consideration? Isn't it easier to find fun on your own instead of adding another trait to the list of requirements? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/26 07:10 PM |
| -6 | Women don’t actually need men anymore. So what incentive is left for commitment?If all a woman brings to the table (and does it for real) is “I’ll be there tomorrow morning cause I got nowhere else to be” I would jump from joy so high that I would have to worry about sticking the landing without dying. I can intellectually understand the position you are in. I am absolutely unable to fully put myself in your shoes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/26 07:04 PM |
| 3 | Not having sex is an acceptable outcomeI would not know how to. Feelings are not my thing. But it is not hard to conceive the idea that if you make someone feel safe and horny they might want to have sex with you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/26 06:52 PM |
| 0 | Not having sex is an acceptable outcomeWith what arguments? Why use arguments? There is plenty of convincing that can be done without arguments. Convincing is an adjective that means able to make you believe that something is true, real, or right. There is also "convincing to do something" instead of "convincing to believe in something" It describes proof, arguments, or actions that remove doubt. Forgot about feelings. Those are convincing. So what proof there can be about someone's desires? Feelings. And as I said before. It is conv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/26 06:42 PM |
| 1 | Not having sex is an acceptable outcomeConvince her to have sex. If she wants it or not might or not be relevant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/26 06:19 PM |
| 3 | Not having sex is an acceptable outcomeTry to convince and try to rape are different things. I hope you know that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/26 06:14 PM |
| 1 | Tradwives reduce men to a paycheck and a bodyguard while Feminists want an actual partner.The consensus arrived at by the majority of the members of the organization. See if any conservative population would allow a doctor making sex change procedures to minors to call themselves a conservative. That is how you are able to see the limits of a movement and how those limits define the movement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/26 04:40 PM |
| 1 | Tradwives reduce men to a paycheck and a bodyguard while Feminists want an actual partner.A movement is defined by their limits. Those limits are seen by looking at which behavior gets a member kicked out of the movement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/26 03:45 PM |
| 1 | Tradwives reduce men to a paycheck and a bodyguard while Feminists want an actual partner.Precisely. So they are condemned to accept that whatever the stupid people inside the moment do, becomes part of the movement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/26 03:36 PM |
| 1 | Tradwives reduce men to a paycheck and a bodyguard while Feminists want an actual partner.Yes. Unless the vast majority of the population that self identify as vegans remove them from the group. Feminists don't tend to excommunicate women from their ranks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/26 03:15 PM |
| 1 | Tradwives reduce men to a paycheck and a bodyguard while Feminists want an actual partner.Lol whatt Trapping someone financially creates "stability" through leverage not a mutual choice Trapping assumes deception. There is no deception in entering into an agreement that includes traditional gender roles. And that leverage is created by a mutual choice. and an equal partner isn't just about sharing bills it's about having an invested adult who stays because she wants to We were talking about "partner" not "equal partner". Don't move the goalpost. An unequal partner is as much as a par… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/26 02:51 PM |
| 1 | Tradwives reduce men to a paycheck and a bodyguard while Feminists want an actual partner.On the contrary. If I am not inside a LTR my desire to take a bath with a toaster increases every day. So I am required to have one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/26 02:48 PM |
| 0 | Men need to display invulnerability ratherBecause this is a debate subreddit. You seem to say that my response was an example of being lacking in emotional intelligence without explaining why that is the case. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/26 02:37 PM |
| -1 | Tradwives reduce men to a paycheck and a bodyguard while Feminists want an actual partner.It is not about books and academics. It is about people on the day to day life. If women that identify themselves as feminist do X, then X is part of feminism no matter what academics or philosophy says about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/26 02:36 PM |
| 2 | Tradwives reduce men to a paycheck and a bodyguard while Feminists want an actual partner.increased demands that aren't money. Money is just time and effort. All other demands outside of money means more time and effort even when outside of working hours. so they don't want you for your money. They want me for my time and effort. Just another form of it if that's all you have to offer a relationship, though, I guess you don't get to be mad when you're expected to provide it, because they know they can't expect anything else. I am not mad about it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/26 02:33 PM |
| 1 | Tradwives reduce men to a paycheck and a bodyguard while Feminists want an actual partner.Ur treating this like a pure cost/benefit ,which is fine, but acting like the only real benefit is a woman who demands less and stays in a narrow role. Well you did not mentioned any benefits for the man in the previous comment. Reducing a man to paycheck + bodyguard isn’t respect, no matter how traditional you call it. It’s just using him. Same goes the other way.... I agree. It is not respect. But as I said before. Respect is unrelated to how you value someone. Alos Feminists who actually mean… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/26 02:32 PM |
| 5 | Tradwives reduce men to a paycheck and a bodyguard while Feminists want an actual partner.Feminism is what self identified feminists do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/26 02:12 PM |
| 3 | Tradwives reduce men to a paycheck and a bodyguard while Feminists want an actual partner.Tradwives reduce men to a paycheck and a bodyguard while Feminists want an actual partner. I can see how this might be true. Let's see your arguments. I think that Feminists actually respect men more than ‘pick me tradwives’ do, cuz Tradwives reduce men to a paycheck and a bodyguard. They want a tool, not a partner. Why do you believe there is a connection between respect and seeing someone as a tool or partner? I can respect someone I see as a tool and have no respect towards someone I see as a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/26 02:11 PM |
| 0 | Men need to display invulnerability ratherPlease elaborate | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/26 02:04 PM |
| 1 | Men need to display invulnerability ratherAnd he discovered that women are not interested in actual vulnerability and honesty. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/26 01:01 PM |
| 6 | Why is relationship a womans job?Men are raised believing women should serve them In the west? After decades of feminism supremacy as the dominant ideology when it comes to gender roles? Doubt so. Women are raised believing they need a man to have a complete life. I can buy that. Men are raised believing they need a woman to have a complete life as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/26 12:07 AM |
| 4 | Why is relationship a womans job?The target audience of TRP is simps and other kind of failures. The men that end up in TRP and have a relationship are already focusing on benefiting their partner. They are so focused on them that they are spineless. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/26 08:12 PM |
| 16 | Why is relationship a womans job?Men are raised believing they should prioritize their partner over themselves. Happy wife happy life. Duty to provide etc . So the advice is to cut down on what they are already doing and think about themselves instead. Women on the other hand (specially since feminism became mainstream) already know they should put themselves first. So the advice is to cut down on what they are already doing and think about their partner instead | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/26 07:56 PM |
| 3 | Women Aren't Playing the Victim. Red Pill Men Don't Understand Consent.I want a clear definition that does not require any subjectivity. Fear is subjective. Feeling coerced is subjective. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/26 11:39 AM |
| 5 | Women Aren't Playing the Victim. Red Pill Men Don't Understand Consent.Rape conviction rates are less than 1% of all allegations. That is not what you are advocating for. You are saying that if someone says that they were afraid or coerced then there was no consent and rape happened. No discussion, no evidence. There was a rape and the rapist goes to jail. 100% conviction based only on the word of the one that is making the accusation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/26 11:35 AM |
| 5 | Women Aren't Playing the Victim. Red Pill Men Don't Understand Consent.So you would be ok going to jail if at any point in time one of the your previous partners decides to say he was afraid and coerced when they had sex with you and you are a rapist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/26 11:27 AM |
| 1 | Even men think men are the problemIn a debate subreddit you have to define the terms | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/26 12:44 AM |
| 1 | Even men think men are the problemI don't believe in the definition I came up with. I don't believe that good or evil exist in any meaningful way. All definitions of good and evil are subjective. I believe the question itself is lacking in meaning because there is no true definition of evil. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 10:17 PM |
| 2 | Even men think men are the problemI don't know. I used that definition because I found it useful for the argument. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 09:58 PM |
| 2 | Even men think men are the problemIs there any definition of evil that is less subjective than another? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 08:28 PM |
| 2 | Even men think men are the problemI defined the term. So I used it. Even when I don't find it useful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 08:21 PM |
| 0 | Men choose the wrong women for ltr or marriageI would love it if women were less emotional and more in control of themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 08:21 PM |
| 0 | Even men think men are the problemhow exactly are women just bad at violence when a lot of methods of being violent don’t require you to be physically strong? The ones that require you to be physically strong are enough to declare them bad at it. what evidence do you have that women are equally evil? Evil is not a useful term. It is subjective enough that all I have to do is be absolute about it. Anyone not perfectly good is an equal in sin and therefor equally evil. That is that. Enough to say all humans are equally evil. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 08:01 PM |
| 1 | Even men think men are the problemReading my first comment. Men and women are equally evil. Men are better at committing violence than women. I didn't say men and women are equally violent. I said they are equally evil. I said women are bad at applying violence. It makes sense they are less violent. They are bad at it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 07:54 PM |
| 0 | Men choose the wrong women for ltr or marriageIn my opinion this dynamic creates an environment in which women are unable and unwilling to be sexual and emotional beings because they have to be in control of themselves and their partners 24/7. I wish women were unwilling to be sexual and emotional. I wish they remain in control of themselves and their partners. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 07:50 PM |
| 2 | Even men think men are the problemYou know you have no real answers so it’s always whataboutisms. OK. Lets make it more clear. Peace is achieved through mutual respect, understanding, and empathy. There is no example of any society on earth that achieved anything that came close to peace through mutual respect, understanding, and empathy. There are plenty of societies on earth that achieved something that came close to peace through the use of violence to enforce laws. I never said shit about removing laws, you moldy potato. You… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 07:48 PM |
| 0 | Even men think men are the problemSee above. Not even with tools that should make their weakeness irrelevant women become able enough to use violence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 07:29 PM |
| 3 | Even men think men are the problemHumans apply violence towards the ones that are weaker than them. Men abuse women, women abuse children, children abuse animals. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 06:51 PM |
| 1 | Even men think men are the problemYes. Different groups of men. Still correct. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 06:44 PM |
| 1 | Even men think men are the problemGo to those countries. Be violent. See how a man will use violence to put you in jail. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 06:42 PM |
| 1 | Even men think men are the problemWomen are so bad at applying violence that even when guns exist, there is no example of a society in which women are the ones enforcing the law. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 06:37 PM |
| 0 | Even men think men are the problemNo, that is the violent male thought. Peace is achieved through mutual respect, understanding, and empathy. Remove laws. Remove prisons. See how far "mutual respect, understanding and empathy" get you if you are not willing or able to apply violence towards the onesthat don't give ashit about your "mutual respect, understanding and empathy" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 06:36 PM |
| 1 | Even men think men are the problemThe only cultures that have low violence are the ones that apply violence effectively towards the ones that initiate violence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 06:35 PM |
| 2 | Even men think men are the problemAnd the only way to keep it. Because peace can only exist if it is enforced through violence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 03:57 PM |
| 5 | Even men think men are the problemMen and women are equally evil. Men are better at committing violence than women. See the difference? I thought women were just as bad as men? I thought women could do just as much evil? Women are as evil as men are. Women are not as efficient and capable of commiting violence as men are. Why are you only talking about male cops, male military, and armed husbands protecting women from other men and not all the violent, unhinged female rapists and terrorists out there? Because unhinged violent fe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 03:49 PM |
| 2 | Women Aren't Playing the Victim. Red Pill Men Don't Understand Consent.Any reply to that point u/TermAggravating8043 ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 03:39 PM |
| 6 | Women Aren't Playing the Victim. Red Pill Men Don't Understand Consent.I agree. Not my point. My point is that what I consider moral or immoral makes no difference unless there is enforcement. Unless someone puts the people that act against the moral code in jail, that moral code is nothing but a useless idea. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 02:17 PM |
| 8 | Women Aren't Playing the Victim. Red Pill Men Don't Understand Consent.You're saying the only reason not to do something is that it's illegal. On a societal scale, yes. That's a legitimately frightening worldview. Then remove all punishments and see how it works out. If your morality starts and ends with avoiding legal consequences, then the only thing stopping you from lying, stealing, cheating, raping, or killing is the fear of punishment. Remove all punishments from society and see how good ethic works as a way to keep society in peace. Ethics exist precisely be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 02:10 PM |
| 2 | If sex isn’t something to be ashamed of, then don’t hide your desires for it.Maybe some people find value in the ettiquete and masquerade of it all. Maybe some people see the ability to keep your lies and honest intentions to yourself as a sign of being properly socialized. Just guessing. I don't really know. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 02:08 PM |
| 8 | Women Aren't Playing the Victim. Red Pill Men Don't Understand Consent.I care about not harming others but unless there is enforcement for what I care about, the fact that I care about it means nothing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 02:05 PM |
| 9 | If sex isn’t something to be ashamed of, then don’t hide your desires for it.Disclaimer: This is a LilithOfBabylon post. So you know how this will work. I will adress every single line and she will pick some detail and ignore everything else. If sex isn’t something to be ashamed of, then don’t hide your desires for it. I don't. It’s always funny seeing people claim theyre fighting against purity culture and yet they have to pretend sex is supposed to be about some pure love bullshit. If being horny isn’t something to be ashamed of, then just be honest. Ok. I am honest. I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 02:04 PM |
| 11 | Women Aren't Playing the Victim. Red Pill Men Don't Understand Consent.Who cares about ethical tandards? If there is no enforcement then they have no impact on reality. Frankly, if you're worried about accidentally crossing the line, wouldn't you rather err on the side of making your partner feel safe and comfortable than on the side of getting as close to the line as possible? No. I rather have the line be clearly defined in law so people can stand in the right side of it knowing there will be no legal consequence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 01:54 PM |
| 4 | Women Aren't Playing the Victim. Red Pill Men Don't Understand Consent.Sure. And prohibition worked and people stopped drinking alcohol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 01:53 PM |
| 14 | Women Aren't Playing the Victim. Red Pill Men Don't Understand Consent.Consent isn't just the absence of the word "no." It requires that a person can freely say no without fearing retaliation, punishment, or significant consequences. I am sorry but defining something as serious and as punishable as rape by something as nebulous and subjective as fear is stupid. Any woman can at any second say she feared retaliation, punishment or significant consequences and considering that she is the only authority on her own fear that means she is the ultimate authority that dec… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 01:01 PM |
| -1 | What do you think women bring to the table and what do you want them to add?what women do bring to the table Women in general don't bring anything to the table because individuals bring different things to the table and they change constantly so anything they bring today they may not bring tomorrow and anything they failed to bring in the past might be on the table on the future. I can go the distance and say that women bring the possibility to maybe get sex/ romantic affection / the chance to have children. Considering those are the only things heterosexual men can't g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/26 04:03 PM |
| 2 | Men place women on a pedestal and in doing so they start to hate women for any show of humanity.Oh. Dehumanizing the one that disagrees. A classic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/26 12:31 PM |
| 1 | Men place women on a pedestal and in doing so they start to hate women for any show of humanity.They are offensive to you. But let's say you are correct and they are offensive to the human spirit. How does that change anything. They are still wasting time getting tools without results. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/26 11:49 AM |
| -1 | Men place women on a pedestal and in doing so they start to hate women for any show of humanity.For you. It is not hard to think that for some people those are only tools used to get sex/relationships and therfore getting the tools without the results is just a waste of time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/26 05:38 PM |
| 0 | Men place women on a pedestal and in doing so they start to hate women for any show of humanity.Those things are valuable as tools to get sex/relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/26 05:21 PM |
| 5 | Men place women on a pedestal and in doing so they start to hate women for any show of humanity.Not really. Now you are single and don't have the time you spent to get hobbies, friends, fitnes shygiene and good character. Time is the most valuable thing humans have. To waste it in things that you don't find valuable is a tragedy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/26 04:30 PM |
| 0 | Why don't men speak up more about male rights?Because the results are nor worth the increased likelihood of ending up as an incel. Men are not going to rally for a cause if the likely result is that they will end up without sex/relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/26 11:53 AM |
| – | Men are not the arbiters of reasonable standardsThose kinds of rewards are outward and are just a bonus. The real reward comes in understanding and believing that real relationships can and will flourish if two people care enough to make it happen. If we recognie that most people being in relationships is a goal worth pursuing then those rewards and punishment should be the main course, not just a bonus. And relationships should happpen even if people don't care enough about it. If you want to win a war, you need more bodies. The perfect way … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 02:45 PM |
| – | Men are not the arbiters of reasonable standardsThere are deductions written directly into the tax laws and many other issues and legislative documents that reward people for being married and producing children. I was thinking about severe social punishment for single women. Not rewarding married people. People who don't want to get married or have children did not appreciate this special treatment and so have pushed the welfare state to make sure that the women who aren't career beasts still have the option to have kids without a second par… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 02:18 PM |
| – | More women today have a disdain for men because the only thing women can offer today is sex, so they understand all of men's efforts today is just for her pussy, which fills them with contemptMen are better at " be great friends who care about each other who can spend time with each other doing things other than sex " So that need is already covered. No need to look for that in women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 05:59 AM |
| – | More women today have a disdain for men because the only thing women can offer today is sex, so they understand all of men's efforts today is just for her pussy, which fills them with contemptbe great friends who care about each other who can spend time with each other doing things other than sex | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 05:53 AM |
| – | what preferences are women allowed to have?There is no way to avoid criticism. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 04:55 AM |
| – | what preferences are women allowed to have?Women are allowed to have any preference. They will get criticism anyways because being allowed to do something and being free of criticism are two different things that have nothing to do with each other. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 02:19 AM |
| 2 | why aren’t men happier about the fact that they can improve themselves to be more likeable to women?so let me get this straight, when a woman has a preference for tall men that’s bad because men can’t control their height Not my position. A popular position for sure. Not one I hold but when women have a preference for a financial stable and confident man that’s bad too because it’s not a part of who he is. lol Not my position either, I don't consider it "bad". Just not really an exampl of being attracted to what a human is. can you show me a psychological study proving your second statement? N… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 02:16 AM |
| 2 | why aren’t men happier about the fact that they can improve themselves to be more likeable to women?well then i’m not my age, beauty, or body count either because when those things change im still the same person. so i guess women aren’t valued for who they are either Sure. But beauty is a trait of your body so it is closer to being valued for what you are than anything else. i guess i just don’t understand your mentality about life. i really cannot imagine wanting to be valued for something that you can’t control and only lasts a few years compared to something you can control and has a high … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 01:51 AM |
| 2 | why aren’t men happier about the fact that they can improve themselves to be more likeable to women?The only reward worth the effort is success in dating | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/26 09:33 PM |
| 2 | why aren’t men happier about the fact that they can improve themselves to be more likeable to women?why are you not your confidence? is it not a part of your personality? Because I remain myself if I lose confidence or if I gain it. Whatever I am remains the same with or without confidence. yeah everyone has a body, and some people have an ugly one, so.. So being valued for what you are is better than not being valued for what you are. (A body) why is being judged for your age any better than being judged for your money? you can control one, not the other Everyone gets to be young. Not everyon… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/26 09:20 PM |
| 2 | why aren’t men happier about the fact that they can improve themselves to be more likeable to women?why is this such a bad thing? Because I am not my money. I am not my confidence and I am not the performance of game. I am what remains when everything else changes. That is, just a body and the electrical chemical patterns that distinguish it from a corpse. the men who lament about these things the most also say that the most important things to them in a woman are her beauty, youth, body count. So a body (something everyone has), time (something everyone had once), and lack of experiences (som… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/26 08:51 PM |
| 1 | Fellas, is it discriminatory for women to experience attraction? DiscussI did pick my current partner making decisions about who I date based on the future life I want to have and based on the kind of behaviors I want to reward/punish using my own behavior as an incentive structure. Miss moral and I are together for 10 years and counting. I did not even consider "liking her" when selecting her. That is something I learned to do after I decided she would be the one to take a chance with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/26 12:19 AM |
| 1 | Fellas, is it discriminatory for women to experience attraction? Discussif you are in a relationship with someone where you are committed and cohabiting, you spend a lot of time together. That’s really hard to do when you don’t like the person Hard to do does not mean "impossible". I can deal with it. And I can learn to like someone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/26 12:10 AM |
| 1 | Fellas, is it discriminatory for women to experience attraction? DiscussThat would be covered by I make decisions about who I date based on the future life I want to have | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/26 10:44 PM |
| 0 | Fellas, is it discriminatory for women to experience attraction? DiscussYes. I fail to see how it is relevant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/26 07:33 PM |
| 1 | Fellas, is it discriminatory for women to experience attraction? DiscussI am perfectly able to feel interested, weirded out or attracted. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/26 07:29 PM |
| 0 | Fellas, is it discriminatory for women to experience attraction? DiscussIf a woman you weren’t attracted to asked you out, you would maybe feel weirded out or just plain not interested. Sure. But I don't make decisions about who I will date based on what I feel. I make decisions about who I date based on the future life I want to have and based on the kind of behaviors I want to reward/punish using my own behavior as an incentive structure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/26 05:51 PM |
| 1 | Let's speculate about men who claim misandry, etc.Yes, in your very unrealistic hypothetical scenario that makes no logical sense where women don’t have any money to spend and men will all unify as one great woman-hating army. An unrealistic goofy made up rule is not worth considering. Your hypothetical is useless If you don't want to adress the hypothetical scenario then the discussion does not make sense. I am discussing that scenario. Not reality. Your points are perfect for reality. Not for the scenario that is being discussed. So your prem… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/26 08:58 PM |
| 1 | Let's speculate about men who claim misandry, etc.Corporations and rich people have no incentive to fire half of their functional useful employees based solely on their sex organs. It does not benefit them. Useless if your clients refuse to buy from you because you hire single women. And as for male workers boycotting all companies who employ women… boycotts are simply not effective. Because those boycots are from a tiny minority that does not follow through. Not the case in this scenario. And from the perspective of capital, there is no value … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/26 08:01 PM |
| – | Let's speculate about men who claim misandry, etc.That is the necessary circumstance for this scenario to make any sense. Unless men act as a cohesive unit when it comes to making social pariahs out of single women there is no way an incentive structure that rewards settling over remaining single will exist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/26 05:43 PM |
| – | Let's speculate about men who claim misandry, etc.And piss off the clients that will no longer buy your product/service because the company is hiring women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/26 04:22 PM |
| 3 | If you dont like women, don’t date them.Fair. I would think that something as pursued as relationships would be as desired as living a life having all your limbs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/26 04:15 PM |
| 4 | If you dont like women, don’t date them.And why do you think that men through all of history spend that much time and effort trying to get relationships? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/26 03:55 PM |
| 4 | If you dont like women, don’t date them.Seeking relationships? The thing that most humans in history do/did? That is unattractive? Humanity is broken | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/26 03:49 PM |
| 2 | [ Removed by moderator ]Assuming it can be done, unless it happens at the same time in all societies/countries on earth, all you did is create some countries that have men and some that don't. The countries that have their male population intact will conquer the countries that don't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/26 02:40 PM |
| – | Let's speculate about men who claim misandry, etc.In this hypothetical scenario men decided that they no longer want to associate with single women. So single women would be the ones that are not hired. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/26 02:05 PM |
| – | Let's speculate about men who claim misandry, etc.In this hypothetical scenario men decided that they no longer want to associate with single women. So single women would be the ones that are not hired. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/26 02:05 PM |
| 2 | If you dont like women, don’t date them.Yes. You can have legs and complain about them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/26 01:50 PM |
| 4 | If you dont like women, don’t date them.If not more miserable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/26 01:49 PM |
| 4 | If you dont like women, don’t date them.Compare it to... I don't know... Having legs. You don't need legs to live... Still really good to have them and sucks to not have them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/26 01:31 PM |
| 1 | If you dont like women, don’t date them.Because for many men life without relationships/sex is significantly worse than life with those. Compared it to... I don't know... Having legs. You don't need legs to live... Still really good to have them and sucks to not have them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/26 01:31 PM |
| 1 | If you dont like women, don’t date them.Because for many men life without relationships/sex is significantly worse than life with those. Compared it to... I don't know... Having legs. You don't need legs to live... Still really good to have them and sucks to not have them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/26 01:31 PM |
| -3 | If you dont like women, don’t date them.If you don't like being dependent on a boss or a client then don't work... It is not an option and that was told and explained to you multiple times. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/26 12:36 PM |
| 1 | Men are not the arbiters of reasonable standardsI don't have a plan. A plan is something serious that you try to achieve. I don't plan to achieve anything I am saying. I am just debating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/26 09:08 PM |
| 1 | Men are not the arbiters of reasonable standardsNot a plan. A plan is something more serious than whatever we are doing here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/26 08:09 PM |
| 1 | Men are not the arbiters of reasonable standardsCorrect. In the societies in which the majority of men want that, there is nothing that can stop them. In the societies in which the majority of men are opposed to that, the perpetrators are persecuted and sent to jail. Not all of course, no justice system is perfect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/26 06:41 PM |
| – | Do men just want to be seen as attractive and nothing else?In that fictional world there is evidence of the existence of a soul. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/26 06:34 PM |
| 1 | Men are not the arbiters of reasonable standardsMy point is that when the majority of men want to do something the law does not stop them. What they want becomes commonplace | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/26 06:33 PM |
| 1 | Men are not the arbiters of reasonable standardsProhibition was law and that didn't stop men from drinking. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/26 06:22 PM |
| 1 | Men are not the arbiters of reasonable standardsDiscrimination as a consequence of using freedom of association. Yes. Also, punishments are also incentives. Anything that influences your decisions based on.expected outcomes is an incentive | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/26 06:16 PM |
| 1 | Men are not the arbiters of reasonable standardsIt created one incentive for women to not be single. For some women that incentive was one of the incentive considered to make the decision to not be single. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/26 06:07 PM |
| 1 | Men are not the arbiters of reasonable standardsYou think non single women would go against single women despite women having a higher ingroup bias? Some will. And that is enough to tip the scales. Also how is antagonising single women making it more likely for them to couple up? People tend to do what is needed to improve their position. We already had that before when women were shamed for being old cat ladies and shit. It worked. Not perfectly but it worked. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/26 06:04 PM |
| 1 | Men are not the arbiters of reasonable standardsOk. My point still stands | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/26 06:02 PM |
| 1 | Men are not the arbiters of reasonable standardsReplace one state for another. The state still exists. So no meaningful change. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/26 06:02 PM |
| 1 | Men are not the arbiters of reasonable standardsYou know that women also have buisnesses? Are part of corporations? Sit in HR? Yes. And I know that all men+non single women is a larger client base than single women. It makes sense to pander to the larger client base. Surprisingly men aren't the only working people. Would you be okay if women behaved the same way then? Yes. Freedom of association is good no matter who is using it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/26 05:43 PM |
| 1 | Men are not the arbiters of reasonable standardsIf 50% percent of the population acts like that I believe it would make a difference. How do you plan to get hired? Buy anything? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/26 05:37 PM |
| 1 | Men are not the arbiters of reasonable standardsThe state is a stationary mafia. Of course there will be taxes. They need to stay in power. They need guns. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/26 05:10 PM |
| 0 | Men are not the arbiters of reasonable standardsYou know the racist person that just refuses to talk/hire interact with someone they don't like? That is how it looks like. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/26 05:09 PM |
| 0 | Men are not the arbiters of reasonable standardsI didn't say get rid of the state. I said get rid of the help the state gives to people. A state is the best organization when it comes to the use of violence and as long as that is the case the stare can't be destroyed, it can only be changed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/26 04:26 PM |
| -1 | Men are not the arbiters of reasonable standardsHow are you going to get everyone to comply? I will not. If men don't want to treat single women as pariahs then they will not. What happens if they don't? Pariahs as well. And that ignores the fact that, in modern day social circles, being a pariah is not that big of a deal. It would be if people had freedom of association (if they are allowed to not hire people they don't want to hire. If they are allowed to refuse services and trade etc) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/26 04:23 PM |
| -1 | Men are not the arbiters of reasonable standardsFreedom to decide who you deal with and in which way if you dealt with them at all. If men treat single women as pariahs and refuse to have any positive interaction with them then single life would be harder than just lowering your standards. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/26 03:57 PM |
| 1 | Men are not the arbiters of reasonable standardsThen read the comments below. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/26 11:46 AM |
| 0 | Men are not the arbiters of reasonable standardsIf you need to force people to trade their singlehood for a relationship its not a voluntary trade, is it? There is no force. Just freedom of association. Why do you want to force the state then to have people give up their freedom and bodily autonomy? I don't require the use of a state (country). Just individual people using their freedom of association. Which is part of their bodily autonomy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/26 11:46 AM |
| -3 | Men are not the arbiters of reasonable standardsBecause free humans should be free to treat other people as pariahs just because they have freedom of association. Because that would create an incentive structure that rewards being in a relationship and punishes being single. Because a socieyin which you get help through voluntary trade is better than a society in which you get help through force (the state) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/26 10:33 AM |
| -1 | Men are not the arbiters of reasonable standardsBecause being alone is no longer better than being with someone that does not meet your standards | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/26 10:30 AM |
| -5 | Men are not the arbiters of reasonable standardsRemoving all help from the state and making sure all men treat single women and those who associate with them as social pariahs. If women want any help or good treatment they can pick a man and stop being single. Then they get an acceptable life. Notice how all I did is apply freedom of association. No rights were removed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/26 09:32 AM |
| -2 | Men are not the arbiters of reasonable standardsBecause it solves the issue with standards | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/26 09:30 AM |
| -1 | Men are not the arbiters of reasonable standardsSolution found. Make it so it is no longer better to be alone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/26 02:18 AM |
| 1 | Why does every group of men thinks that the women of the out groups are better?Why does every group of men thinks that the women of the out groups are better? Because the women they know are really really bad. I love how ‘foreign women are both slutty and submissive’ just seems to be a universal belief no matter who ‘foreign’ means. That is men being stupid. At least get to know the culture of the hunting ground you are aiming at. Like why do men think this? For example in my country people say that Americana and European women are better than Indian ones as they don't exp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/26 03:11 AM |
| 1 | Men don’t want relationships, they want serviceIf you love someone, you don't use them to "get what you want" over their pain, misery, and discomfort. Ok. If that is the definition we are using I have no response. You define the term in such a way that gives me no option. I don't know how good of a debate tactic it is. I'd never fuck my husband while he clearly hated it. And if he could fuck me while I cried or starfishes because he's using my body irrespective of my feelings, he'd be gone. Respectable position to have. Also personal. That i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/26 11:59 AM |
| 1 | Men don’t want relationships, they want serviceIf you love someone, you don't use them to "get what you want" over their pain, misery, and discomfort. Ok. If that is the definition we are using I have no response. You define the term in such a way that gives me no option. I don't know how good of a debate tactic it is. I'd never fuck my husband while he clearly hated it. And if he could fuck me while I cried or starfishes because he's using my body irrespective of my feelings, he'd be gone. Respectable position to have. Also personal. That i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/26 11:59 AM |
| 1 | Getting women to lower their standards will just trap you in a passionless relationshipI agree with you. That being said I already found miss moral ten years ago and I built my life around creating an adequate incentive structure for the woman that would fill that role. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/26 05:18 AM |
| -3 | The disparity between good men and good womenNot really. It can be explained theoretically, even mathematically. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/26 09:57 PM |
| -1 | Getting women to lower their standards will just trap you in a passionless relationshipGetting women to lower their standards will just trap you in a passionless relationship I am ok with that. A lot of men hearken back to the days of yore, talking about how back in the fifties or whatever, most men got married at, like, twenty or whatever. They don't take into consideration how a very large percentage of those women probably (at best) tolerated their husbands, rather than ever truly loving them. Fine by me. Ever hear how common it was back then for a husband to die mysteriously, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/26 09:55 PM |
| 0 | Men don’t want relationships, they want serviceYou cannot have emotional connection with someone if you don't give a shit how they feel about having sex with you, as long as they do it. Well you are partly correct. Even I can't do both at the same time. He doesn't value emotional intimacy because he doesn't understand it. Define the term as you use it. Then I can either agree or disagree with this statment in a way that is meaningful to the way you use the term. I'm trying to imagine fucking my husband knowing he'd rather crawl away and it t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 03:31 AM |
| 1 | Men don’t want relationships, they want serviceyou don't talk to your partner of 10 years about your feelings? I tell her enough so she knows about it and nothing more. Part of the deal is that I must talk about that. And I tell it in a way that is so sanitized that is like seeing a childrens version of Schindler´s list. Technically you may know what is happening but without the gory details you don't really get it. She knows that is the case. She asked me to be fully open, she got it. Didn't liked it one bit. As I expected. wowee, i'm sure … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 01:34 AM |
| 0 | Men don’t want relationships, they want serviceLets make this interesting and answer from the perspective of the kind of men you are talking about. Lets ignore the generalization. I am that kind of man so lets go point by point adressing everything. Also, I saw the video before writing this. I am not married because marriage is bullshit but I am in a ten year long term relationship Men don’t want relationships, they want service I do want a service. A relationship is just a mutually agreed upon arrangement in which both parts get what they w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 01:04 AM |
| 1 | Society didn't lie to men about women and dating. Porn did.It was the more significant out of all of them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 06:39 PM |
| – | Which women do men (you) like/love more?All other things being equal the one that is willing to have sex more often is the one I would like/love more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 06:36 PM |
| 0 | Which women do men (you) like/love more?The one that gives me what I want. If both give me what I want, the one that gives me more of it. I don't have enough information about the options to make an informed decision. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 06:07 PM |
| 1 | Society didn't lie to men about women and dating. Porn did.I was a child sociopath. Of course I did not understand humans were different. They were all just objects to me. When I was told about equality I took it seriously. Equality means equality. No room for any variation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 01:43 AM |
| – | why does predatory behavior toward young girls continue to be such a persistent issue, with menFor the same reason thet is a persistent issue with women killing their children. The one that is stronger abuses the one that is weaker. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 09:33 PM |
| 2 | There’s nothing wrong with living for love.As long as we both get what we want out of the trade | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 06:17 PM |
| 1 | Let's speculate about men who claim misandry, etc.Those same women want a man to pay for the lifestyle they want to live or at the very least bring enough money so she can afford a better lifestyle than the one she can pay for on her own. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 06:03 PM |
| 1 | There’s nothing wrong with living for love.It's ethically wrong. That's it. That's the argument. Dude. I am talking about correct/vs incorrect. Not ethics. "Rapists exists" is not a wrong statement and saying the act of rape is morally wrong does not change the fact that the statement is correct. It's not the best option. It's survival. And that woman will pick survival over that man every time. Then find a woman that needs you for survival. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 05:50 PM |
| 1 | There’s nothing wrong with living for love.Being “welcoming and caring” is not a life goal - that is a personality trait. No. "Welcoming and caring" is a trait. "Being" is an action. And to continue that action is a goal. Something you want to achieve/do is Being anything is a goal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 05:47 PM |
| -1 | There’s nothing wrong with living for love.I made the argument therefore it exists. Find a woman in such a horrible position in life that they have no better option and will never have a better option than to date you. Then you don't need any of the mentioned. Context: a woman won’t want you if you have no ambition outside of the generic “I want a family and a nice house and stable job”. Having no interest outside of your prospective partner is just plain boring and depressing. Find something that excites/interests you - most men in the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 05:44 PM |
| -1 | There’s nothing wrong with living for love.I know there are many uses of the word "wrong". I mean factually wrong. I am not arguing ethics and morality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 05:42 PM |
| 0 | There’s nothing wrong with living for love.Provide an argument then. Why would such a woman reject the best option available to her when presented with it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 05:41 PM |
| 0 | There’s nothing wrong with living for love.It is not factually wrong. If you find such a woman you don't need to get all the laundry list of traits. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 05:39 PM |
| -3 | There’s nothing wrong with living for love.It is not factually wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 05:37 PM |
| -3 | There’s nothing wrong with living for love.But it is not wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 05:34 PM |
| 3 | There’s nothing wrong with living for love.The concept that “someone else is getting something that I’m not” is very human. But it’s one of those dark thoughts that we, as humans, are responsible for watching ourselves for, as they lead to unhealthy fixation I believe it is one of the best thoughts a human can have. Without humans sense of fairness there would be no law and no order. Just the strong taking from the weak. I do think some people are just uncomfortable being reminded of their own selfish nature, so they attack the person ex… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 05:33 PM |
| -2 | There’s nothing wrong with living for love.Alternative. Find a woman in such a horrible position in life that they have no better option and will never have a better option than to date you. Then you don't need any of the mentioned. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 05:22 PM |
| -3 | There’s nothing wrong with living for love.Lowkey if you have no hobbies, goals or dreams/ambitions that aren’t targeted towards the sole purpose of finding sex/a partner - that’s a very sad life to live. It is quite good to know exactly what you want and not have anything distracting you from the goal. What is sad is not achieving the goal. You should Oh.. I should. I did not know I was talking with the one true authority on what I should do with my only life. be happy being alone and have dreams outside of them - like getting a good jo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 05:19 PM |
| 1 | There’s nothing wrong with living for love.Fair point. One man is focused on love and the other is focused on fairness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 05:15 PM |
| -2 | There’s nothing wrong with living for love.So men would still want the same thing no matter if Chad is real or not, imagined or not. That is no jealousy. That is genuine desire for something. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 05:03 PM |
| -1 | There’s nothing wrong with living for love.That’s you being jealous of whatever your version of “Chad” has. Is it? Because from my perspective this man would still want the want the same thing even if this version of Chad never existed and is never even imagined by anyone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 04:51 PM |
| -2 | There’s nothing wrong with living for love.I am with you. I see nothing wrong with it. There is no reason to lie to myself and pretend I care about anything else. Life is better when you are honest with yourself about what you want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 04:49 PM |
| 1 | Society didn't lie to men about women and dating. Porn did."It is still a shame that we gave women any kind of responsibility though" Responsibility and independence are not the same thing. "You can be independent and have no responsibility." Bullshit. Provide an argument. Elaborate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 04:36 PM |
| 2 | Society didn't lie to men about women and dating. Porn did.I have no problem with women being independent. I said nothing against women's independence in this argument. You can have responsibilities while being a dependent. You can be independent and have no responsibility. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 04:25 PM |
| 1 | Society didn't lie to men about women and dating. Porn did.Sure now answer the important part Again. How can we have equality of opportunity unless we remove parents ability to give advantages to their children? If parents are able to help their children some parents will be better than others and therefore some kids will have more opportunities than others. Of we allow for that to happen equality of opportunity does not exist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 04:16 PM |
| 1 | Society didn't lie to men about women and dating. Porn did.I am not. But I should not be able to create inequality when hiring considering your previous comments. Discrimination in hiring is wrong and that applies even if I am not a government entity. Again. How can we have equality of opportunity unless we remove parents ability to give advantages to their children? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 03:15 PM |
| 0 | Society didn't lie to men about women and dating. Porn did.Ok equal Access to opportunities. How does that factor in for the idea that some parents will give their children access to opportunities that some other children will not have? Should it be illegal for me to pay for a better school for my child because it gives them an opportunity other children don't have? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 03:11 PM |
| 1 | Society didn't lie to men about women and dating. Porn did.But if I help my kids and not others I am giving them an unequal access to opportunities. That destroys equality of opportunity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 03:10 PM |
| 1 | Society didn't lie to men about women and dating. Porn did.I was told they were equal. I was lied to | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 02:53 PM |
| 1 | Society didn't lie to men about women and dating. Porn did.So women are not equal and want to be treated in a way that ignores the ways in which they are inferior as workers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 02:52 PM |
| 1 | Society didn't lie to men about women and dating. Porn did.Should? So I guess it should be illegal for me to give any help to my children because that would give them a different opportunity compared to the kids that had no parents. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 02:51 PM |
| 1 | Society didn't lie to men about women and dating. Porn did.This is the type of discrimination woman are fighting against. I know. But that discrimination is born out of a biological difference that does exist and has an economic impact. Let's reframe your bad logic with other bad logic: Why would I hire a man when he's more violent than a woman? Because that threat of violence is good. It is what keeps arguments from escalating to the point of being unmanageable. Why would I hire someone in a wheelchair for a job writing code? I don't see any reason why… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 02:50 PM |
| 2 | Society didn't lie to men about women and dating. Porn did.It was when I was learning how to socialize | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 02:39 PM |
| -1 | Society didn't lie to men about women and dating. Porn did.So legal equality. Not actual equality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 02:28 PM |
| 2 | Society didn't lie to men about women and dating. Porn did.in 100% of everything? no. in 99.999% of everything. Yes. Why would I hire a woman over a man all other things being equal considering one can get pregnant and suffers through monthly pains? You know this. Its intentionally misrepresenting what women mean when they want equality. And then using that misrepresentation to say "equality means they have the same libidos" is even worse logic It is ok when women say they want equality. My point is that they are not equal | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 02:28 PM |
| 0 | Society didn't lie to men about women and dating. Porn did.That is not the same thing and you know it. No one is making men homeless. Indifference keeps them homeless. Keep regurgitating the manosphere, it’s working out so well for you. It is actually. Can't complain about the results. Btw women fight for housing justice more than men. Even though men are more typically to be homeless. I judge them by the results obtained. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 02:26 PM |
| 0 | Society didn't lie to men about women and dating. Porn did.I am just saying. There are more homeless men than women. In order to get social equality then the same number of men and women should be homeless. Want equality? Then ask for it during the bad times as well? If you are asking for equality only when it suits women it is not asking for equality. It is asking for privilege. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 02:07 PM |
| 2 | Society didn't lie to men about women and dating. Porn did.Can you have the same opportunities as someone if you are not biologically equal? Come on | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 02:05 PM |
| 3 | Society didn't lie to men about women and dating. Porn did.That is exactly what equal means. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 01:57 PM |
| 0 | Society didn't lie to men about women and dating. Porn did.So then we should have more homeless women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 01:53 PM |
| 1 | Let's speculate about men who claim misandry, etc.If someone in my life is not playing the role I need them to play I remove them and change them for someone that will play it. I have only one life and I am not wasting it. I found my partner in a homeless shelter turn years ago. I have what she wants, she has what I want. Our roles were negotiated and established. We both play out role. That is all I want. Clear roles. A predictable life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 01:53 PM |
| 0 | Society didn't lie to men about women and dating. Porn did.I was a child. I was told that men and women are equal. I believed it. I applied it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 01:50 PM |
| 2 | Let's speculate about men who claim misandry, etc.Cool; so guess that means these changes will not have a significant impact. I believe there would be a significant impact. Most women don't want to do what one needs to do to achieve a decent lifestyle and continue to do it until they die. They would rather have a state or man pay for it. Your premise is based off of a deeply held belief of women's basic inferiority to dudes. That's a whole other thing. Please elaborate | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 01:47 PM |
| 1 | Society didn't lie to men about women and dating. Porn did.Yes. As men understand desire. Spontaneous. Non related to actions performed by women. Purely based on looks. Strong enough to influence actions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 01:45 PM |
| 0 | Let's speculate about men who claim misandry, etc.But why does a LTR give you the will to live, if you do not derive anything positive from it (or, the positives that most of us seek - support, respect, etc.) I don't know. or at a minimum, do not need those "positives" to remain in that relationship; what is it about that relationship that benefits you? I have a role to play in the life of someone. And I have someone playing a role in my life. That is all. I understand becoming depressed to the point of contemplating a toaster bath -- but that … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 01:44 PM |
| 0 | Let's speculate about men who claim misandry, etc.They will have themselves. They are free to hire each other and trade with each other. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 01:40 PM |
| 1 | Society didn't lie to men about women and dating. Porn did.Biological equality is a lie Thus equality is a lie. But women should be equal socially. Sure. Actual equality. We need more homeless women to balance the scale. Just to start. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 01:39 PM |
| 3 | Society didn't lie to men about women and dating. Porn did.I know now. Women don't have anything a man would call true desire. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 01:38 PM |
| 2 | Society didn't lie to men about women and dating. Porn did.I verified eventually. I found out that I was lied to. I was building reasoning on top of a lie. My presupposition was wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 01:37 PM |
| 2 | Society didn't lie to men about women and dating. Porn did.I was said that men are women are equal. From that point I applied the reasoning explained above. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 01:32 PM |
| 3 | Society didn't lie to men about women and dating. Porn did.Precisely. Equality is a lie | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 01:32 PM |
| 0 | Let's speculate about men who claim misandry, etc.When I am outside a LTR I lose my will to live. For me it is about avoiding the desire to take a bath with a toaster. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 01:32 PM |
| 1 | Let's speculate about men who claim misandry, etc.I didn't say anything about safety nor security. Just leaving them alone to be self sufficient. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 01:31 PM |
| 2 | Society didn't lie to men about women and dating. Porn did.I asked | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 01:30 PM |
| 4 | Society didn't lie to men about women and dating. Porn did.Equal means the same in every way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 01:12 PM |
| 2 | Society didn't lie to men about women and dating. Porn did.Of course. It is a debate tactic. You should know by now that I am not above anything when it comes to debating. You are one that dedicates entire posts talking about the wrong in men without talking about anything else even if pressed on it. You know how this works. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 01:11 PM |
| 2 | Society didn't lie to men about women and dating. Porn did.Fathers are equally to blame. It is still a shame that we gave women any kind of responsibility though | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 01:05 PM |
| 2 | Society didn't lie to men about women and dating. Porn did.So you lied to yourself. You assumed this was the case instead of actually confirming it that was the case It is not a lie. I can have spontaneous attraction. The lie was that women and men are equal. And that is not a lie I told to myself. That lie was told to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 01:04 PM |
| 0 | Let's speculate about men who claim misandry, etc.Have you considered how this would play out for you, if you were on the receiving end of this "settling?" Yes. Maybe you imagine it would go the route of a fairytale that involves an arranged marriage where the couple eventually falls in love. But that's not what will happen. Instead she will resent you, and likely grow to detest you. In that situation, how do you rate your life? Depends on her actions. I don't give a fuck about what she thinks or feels. We are both playing a role and a role is … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 01:03 PM |
| 1 | Society didn't lie to men about women and dating. Porn did.The fact that you can’t explain how you got to that conclusion says something. I did. I will repeat it. I am a man. I as a man can have spontaneous attraction. Men and women are equal. Therefore women can have spontaneous attraction. He still has to grow and learn out of it like every other person race poorly did. Does not change the fact that he is starting from behind and the damage is already done. Thinking he deserves an endless supply of pity is entitlement and manchild behavior. The refusa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 01:01 PM |
| 1 | Men are incompatible with long term partnershipThey like variety that one woman cannot quench Most men will never be attractive enough to get that variety so this point only applies in a meaningful actionable way to a minority of men. They are not attracted to signs of aging that is inevitable to happen over time If she is a living adult female she will be attractive enough to most men. Some men would even ignore the lack of one of those traits. They are also not attracted to the effects of pregnancy (saggy breasts, stretch marks, loose stom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 12:58 PM |
| 3 | Society didn't lie to men about women and dating. Porn did.Talks of Equality has never told men this. It is the logical conclusion that comes from accepting equality. There comes a time in a normal adult’s life where they have to admit they were raised poorly. Sure. And the consequences of being raised poorly are not his fault. The ones to blame are the ones that lied to him Hearing a guy bitch about how he’s dehydrated after we keep watching him ruin his water supply is extremely annoying. We’re not giving you sympathy for your own problems that you cr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 12:51 PM |
| 0 | Let's speculate about men who claim misandry, etc.This is just my premise- if we accept it as true- what can men realistically do (knowing that we as women AREN'T going back)? Make single life horrible between the boundaries of the law. Vote to reduce or remove all help the state gives to women. Refuse to have any positive interaction with any single woman and/or anyone that has a positive interaction with single women. Remove from law any intervention that forces employers to accept someone they don't want to hire (single women). Just give men… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 12:49 PM |
| 3 | Society didn't lie to men about women and dating. Porn did.Porn made guys think that was realistic. Equality did. I am a man. I as a man can have spontaneous attraction. Men and women are equal. Therefore women can have spontaneous attraction. No one told them sex was a reward for niceness. Yes. We were told that in many ways by many people in our lives. Specially people that are supposed to care for children and teach them/give them tools to succeed. Men literally desire sex more than anything else, and they will happily settle into place for a bit, if… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 12:43 PM |
| 2 | Society didn't lie to men about women and dating. Porn did.It is embarrassing that women are responsible for teaching young men wrong. For sure. They are liars that are hurting their own children. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 12:38 PM |
| 1 | Men, would you prefer cooking skills/chores/bedroom altruism to be valued instead of height/looks/income?Whatever. As long as the rules are clear I will play. If I am judged by things I can control easily then the better for me. If I am judged by things I can't control or that are hard to change then the path would be harder. I would like if I was valued for things that I find easy to control such as cooking skills/chores/altruism in bed. Just because it requires less effort than the alternative. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 11:59 AM |
| 4 | Women did not develop compassion/empathy for men in general because it serves no evolutionary purposeProud to treat object like women... I guess. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 01:07 AM |
| 1 | Would you date someone you met in person who didn’t match with you on a dating app?I found my partner 10 years ago in a homeless shelter in South America (I am from the same country). I could give her a life and lifestyle she could never get on her own. She could give me a life and lifestyle I could never get on my own. Trade happened. Trade continues to happen today. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/26 09:54 PM |
| 2 | Would you date someone you met in person who didn’t match with you on a dating app?If I have options then I would not pick a "I probably didn't see you. If I did I didn't even remember you" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/26 09:01 PM |
| 1 | Would you date someone you met in person who didn’t match with you on a dating app?I was an option available, willing and easy to establish communication with. I was not picked. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/26 08:52 PM |
| 1 | Would you date someone you met in person who didn’t match with you on a dating app?Yes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/26 07:46 PM |
| 1 | Would you date someone you met in person who didn’t match with you on a dating app?If I don't have options then the answer is always yes. Any is better than none. If I have options then no. I was already rejected before and if I have the option to date someone that did not reject me in the past instead I would take that option. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/26 06:59 PM |
| 1 | Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hillThank you for providing more arguments in my favour. Of course women would rather date Epstein than someone that stays inside all day. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/26 04:34 PM |
| 2 | Do men just want to be seen as attractive and nothing else?I believe men can love bodies instead of traits. I don't say it is common. Parents seem able to love their kids no matter the traits. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/26 02:18 PM |
| 2 | Do men just want to be seen as attractive and nothing else?They were loved for a trait present in what they are (body) they lost that trait. If your argument is that the trait was loved instead of the body/identity, then I agree. But said trait was present in what that human is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/26 12:39 PM |
| 1 | Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hillThat there are more evil women interested in Epstein than any kind of woman interested in an unmasculine, shy, weak incel. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/26 12:38 PM |
| 1 | Do men just want to be seen as attractive and nothing else?Not true. I remain myself no matter what I do. No human stop being themselves just for changing their behavior. It is entirely impossible to stop being yourself because you are your body. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/26 03:14 AM |
| 1 | Do men just want to be seen as attractive and nothing else?We are engaging in behavior that exists outside of the body right now. No we are not. Without a body there is no thought, no typing. Phrases like “you’ve changed” and “I’m not the man I used to be” are phrases for a reason. Because people are wrong. They are the same person after changing. People become different people all the time. Not the case. Same person, different behavior. And it’s not by gaining weight or getting a haircut. Does a human retain identity when they change in attractiveness?… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/26 12:03 AM |
| 2 | Do men just want to be seen as attractive and nothing else?Can a behavior exist outside a body? Does a human retain their identity if they change their behavior? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/26 10:20 PM |
| 3 | Do men just want to be seen as attractive and nothing else?A human is a body and the electrical/chemical patterns that distinguish it from a corpse. Wanting someone just because they are a woman is wanting someone because they have a vagina. A human is a body. Not because of who they are. See above. Wanting someone because they are attractive is also wanting someone because of an external quality. Not external. Part of the body. Personality is who you are. If you are talking about the electrical/chemical patterns I agree. If you are talking about action… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/26 06:52 PM |
| 2 | Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hillThe only consensual sex he had was presumably Ghislaine, and she is an evil rapist herself. So he was not an incel. That doesn’t mean all women are like Ghislaine ffs. Not what I said. What I said is that when you look at a man like Epstein not being an incel and at the same time you se innocent weak, unmasculine, shy men be incels we can see which traits are more likely to make a man unattractive to women and which traits/actions are not enough to make a man unattractive to women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/26 10:44 PM |
| 1 | Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hillHave you ever, even once, written a letter to a lady from your area's women's prison? No If not: why? Two reasons. The first one is that I try to reward moral behavior and punish inmoral behavior. So when it is possible I try to never interact with criminals. Second reason: I would have too much competition. I rather spend my time and effort in someone that has no other option but me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/26 02:39 PM |
| – | Do women feel entitled to men's bodies?I am going to answer your points. I hope you answer mine instead of avoiding them. the only thought i could think reading that was 'what would you want someone to do for you? Two options. Nothing or if they do something for me they get to expect a reward and I will provide. if you don't operate from that standpoint then theres nothing to talk about as i cant change a core belief for you I can operate from that standpoint. I used it and told you what I would want someone to do for me. Your turn. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/26 01:45 AM |
| 2 | Do women feel entitled to men's bodies?I would help. And I would get my return even if the one I helped is not willing to give it to me. I will make sure to get reputation and use it for my advantage. There are so many people that owe me favors and so many people that payed me those favors because I "helped expecting nothing in return" The action is the same "helping". Then I make sure I got my return. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/26 12:03 AM |
| – | Do women feel entitled to men's bodies?We are different, our actions will not be. I can't get profit without people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 11:56 PM |
| – | Do women feel entitled to men's bodies?Fair point. Good thing serial killers have more women attracted to them than shy incels. /s | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 11:56 PM |
| – | Do women feel entitled to men's bodies?Remove the genders from my sentence and it remains valid. The excuse of "society works better when" can be used to make anyone entitled to someone elses's actions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 11:52 PM |
| – | Do women feel entitled to men's bodies?Yeah, at that point no one is doing it to actually care and only doing it for the reward. That is called "trade" and it is the thing that keeps society working I would avoid people like this in life, as they're generally greedy and the kind to f**k you over to get ahead. The problem is not with greed, the problem lies in being short sighted. If you fuck up people to get ahead you get short term profit. If you develop a positive relationship through trade you gain a small benefit now and continue… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 11:50 PM |
| – | Do women feel entitled to men's bodies?The thing is, when you say that human X is entitled to help. You are also saying that human Y is obligated to help. And when it comes to dangerous situations you are also saying that Y is obligated to put their own well being at risk for the benefit of X. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 11:46 PM |
| – | Do women feel entitled to men's bodies?Already did. Already found miss moral. In a homeless shelter in South America. That ignores the point. The point is that if under the excuse of "society works better when..." we can say women are entitled to men defending them against danger even to the detriment of the men defending them, then using the same excuse we can say men are entitled to relationships with women even to women's detriment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 11:44 PM |
| – | Do women feel entitled to men's bodies?Fair. So the discussion was derailed then. Are women entitled to help when in danger? Are women entitled to men risking their lives for them? Are women entitled to that and men should expect nothing in return? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 11:42 PM |
| – | Do women feel entitled to men's bodies?I think every human is under obligation to care about other human lives, but apparently thats where society has gone wrong. And I believe that only works when there is a benefit for doing so. Punish helping people severely and see how those actions become rare. Reward those behaviors and see how they become commonplace. If you want something for helping someone, it isn't helping, and I'd rather avoid you all together as well, to be honest. Fair. I rather spend time with people that understand an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 11:41 PM |
| – | Do women feel entitled to men's bodies?Using the word should, means I would hope people wouldn't stand by and watch as someone gets attacked, raped or otherwise I was under the impression that to say someone "should" do something meant that they were under the obligation, legal, moral or of some other kind, to do something. but hey, there are assholes in the world, so at least we can spot them when something happens so we know who to avoid all together. Fair. I am all about allowing people to take informed decisions. I would also lik… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 11:34 PM |
| – | Do women feel entitled to men's bodies?My turn. Society works better when all men get to have a partner and children of their own. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 11:31 PM |
| – | Do women feel entitled to men's bodies?You can do both. Hold the aggresors accountable by sending them to jail and tell the victims to improve their self defense strategies | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 11:30 PM |
| – | Do women feel entitled to men's bodies?You did use the word "should". Usually the word "should" comes with an entitlement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 11:28 PM |
| – | Do women feel entitled to men's bodies?So... everyone is entitled to anyone's body in these scenarios? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 11:25 PM |
| – | Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hillThe latter and it is not even close. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 09:49 PM |
| – | Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hillWas Epstein an incel? Because if not, then I am right | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 08:45 PM |
| 2 | Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hillFair. Who these women are will have an impact on who they choose. This is irrelevant to the innocent men that remain incels for being weak/unmasculine/shy while criminals are not incels. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 07:00 PM |
| 2 | Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hillwhy are the characteristics of the woman irrelevant to whom she chooses to have a relationship with? Because "who she whooses" does not care. A relationship is better than no relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 06:32 PM |
| 2 | Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hillThose traits and qualities don't change the fact that not being an incel is better than being an incel. So those traits are irrelevant to the man in question | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 05:57 PM |
| 2 | Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hillBecause nor being an incel is better than being an incel. And the qualities or traits of the woman that makes the decision on the matter are not relevant to that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 05:50 PM |
| – | Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hillWrong question. Better results than whom? Better results than non criminals that happen to be shy, unmasculine, weak. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 05:40 PM |
| – | Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hillConvicted felons have a proven history of their crimes. Still get better results. Displaying misogyny does not seem to be a factor | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 05:28 PM |
| – | Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hillI guess I am not people and proud of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 04:55 PM |
| 3 | Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hillIt is how every single social interaction works. You decide if what others around you deserves from your part a reward, a punishment or neither. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 03:43 PM |
| -8 | Men aren't lonely and single because they're toxic, violent and sexist; they're lonely and single because they're unattractive, broke and awkwardI don't propose to do that. But if I was proposing it I would go for the following. All men without an exception treat adult women outside relationships as social pariahs. No job opportunities, no talking to. Spitting at floor at the sight of them. No social interaction. Voting against their interest so we can remove any help the state would provide to them. Refusing to help them in any way. Apply the same to any woman or man that associates with an adult single woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 03:40 PM |
| – | Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hillWhy do you specify women is my question? Because it is already well known and accepted that a woman that is hot will get what she wants from men even if she is horrible in her actions. That is not in discussion. What we are discussing is how in the eyes of women, being weak, unmasculine and shy is worse than being Epstein. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 03:36 PM |
| 4 | Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hillSo sluts and pick mes don't exist anymore? There are less of them than would otherwise be. I'm not seeing any evidence of that anywhere. There's a lot of different in-groups and these people usually weren't part of certain in-groups anyway. Why would they give a shit if some pathetic online loser tries to shame them? Numbers. If enough people consider you shit and don't want to have nothing to do with you, you are likely to change your ways. If I'm doing something that's not against the law but … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 03:35 PM |
| – | Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hillI never speak about "shoulds" there are no "shoulds" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 03:33 PM |
| 11 | Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hillAnd they still get better results after they are caught | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 03:30 PM |
| – | Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hillEpstein was extremely socially accepted by everyone including and especially men I know. It is like doing everything he did had no real impact on people liking him. Why would you expect someone who was this accepted by his contemporaries to be shunned by women I don't. My entire point is that being shy, weak and unmasculine is worse in the eyes of women than running a pedophile ring. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 03:01 PM |
| 7 | Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hillIn the same way slut shaming is done. In the same way pick mes are treated. Just make Known that whoever participates in X behavior is scum to be removed from the ingroup and considered a pariah. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 02:50 PM |
| – | Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hillEvery single human is in charge of deciding which behavior they reward and which behavior they punish. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 02:43 PM |
| 7 | Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hillYou can't control then but you can apply social pressure. Women are quite vulnerable to it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 02:42 PM |
| – | Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hillOr sorry they dislike weak and shy women more than they like criminals I fail to understand. Who is the one that dislikes weak and shy women more than they like criminals? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 02:42 PM |
| -11 | Men aren't lonely and single because they're toxic, violent and sexist; they're lonely and single because they're unattractive, broke and awkwardwhere her single life is the standard men have to beat. Our bad. We made single life too comfortable. Until men decide that single life should be hell this result is on us. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 02:35 PM |
| – | Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hillWhere is the argument that criminality repels women? I haven't seen that here. Fair. It is a more vague "misogyny repells women" and that suddenly does not apply for serial killers. Visible misogyny repels women. Do you disagree? I disagree. Serial killers that kill women have more results than non misogynistic incels. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 02:11 PM |
| – | Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hillSo you accept that being mediocre is worse on the eyes of women than being Epstein. Considering Epstein was not an incel, It is clear mediocrity is more repellent than running a pedophile ring. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 02:09 PM |
| 2 | Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hillWell that is even worse. Good to know. Now it makes more sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 12:19 PM |
| 6 | Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hillThe “perfect guy” could live 3 streets away from me. If I never meet or interact with him how the heck am I supposed to know? By coming across him and giving him a chance. Womens attractions aren’t the same as men’s. Most of us don’t just see a guy we think is physically attractive and want to approach. We need a positive interaction. We need the flirty banter. So we can finally throw away the idea that men and women are equal? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 12:17 PM |
| – | Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hillOf course. I am not the one arguing that misogyny and criminality repels women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 12:15 PM |
| 4 | Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hillThe women who are attracted to men like Epstein aren’t the same women who could be attracted to weak, unmasculine, shy men. I am only seeing the number of women interested in each. The fact that they are not the same is not relevant. I can only filter through my options. Let's see how you define your options. An Epstein type is a fuck no for most women. And yet he gets better results. A weak, unmasculine, shy guy isn’t on my radar. He isn’t an option. He isn’t interacting with me. If I approach … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 12:06 PM |
| 9 | Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hillCouldn’t tell you one of my neighbors names You are not interested in them. Proving my point. Not having a positive interaction with a person isn’t necessary for most men. Not most women. Where did equality go? Because the type of person who is attracted to those types of people know where to find them. They are also mentally unwell. As I said before in this thread. Quality does not matter. Any is better than none. Not being an incel is better than remaining an incel. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 11:47 AM |
| 4 | Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hillIf a weak, unmasculine, shy guy wasn’t weak, unmasculine and shy he would have the same odds. That defeats the point of the comparison. The point is to compare Epstein against a man that is not in charge of a pedophile ring. He just happens to be shy, weak and unmasculine. Clearly a worse sin that pedophilia considering the results Epstein got compared to this hypothetical man. How attractive is he? Irrelevant. Can't be morally worse than what Epstein did. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 11:29 AM |
| – | Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hillI was talking about women. But it also applies to relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 11:27 AM |
| – | Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hillWhere are women being introduced to weak, unmasculine, shy men? They live around them. Where are those men positively interacting with women? Not necessary. Woman who would possibly like those types of men aren’t the same as those that are wanting and interacting with criminals. As I said before. That is irrelevant. Serial killers get more results. That is wrong. There’s literally sites for people to find people in prison. They make headlines. They are in the news. They attract a certain type of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 11:26 AM |
| – | Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hillSo misogyny is not a factor. Charm is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 11:14 AM |
| – | Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hillWomen that send love letters to serial killers get those serial killers more results than the results a shy and weak non masculine, non serial killer will ever get. So they are more common than women that date shy weak unmasculine men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 11:13 AM |
| 2 | Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hillI feel you’re being disingenuous with me here, no one would describe finding and marrying a partner in their life like one would describe adopting a stray dog Please elaborate. Why not? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 11:11 AM |
| 3 | Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hillSo you’re a passport bro or whatever. I remained in the same country. I am from South America. The relationship is going to end one way or another, are you going to be ok without your partner or are you going to hop on immediately to the next poor foreigner to exploit. I would hop immediately to the next poor woman that is willing to take the deal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 11:10 AM |
| – | Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hillWell your ultra rational, transactional approach doesn’t seem to be working. Found my partner 10 years ago and we are still together. The only benefit it gives is that you don’t need to acknowledge your own flaws and can blame everyone else for them, a comforting cowardly existence. See above. Benefit acquired. If you really were just transactional about love, you’d be hooking up with escorts, But you’re too poor for that lifestyle and it doesn’t seem like you want to work for it. Actions speak … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 11:01 AM |
| – | Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hillIf they were playing they would get worse results than Epstein. Agree or disagree? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 10:59 AM |
| – | Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hillCool. You ignored the point. If you’re not going playing the game. You’re not going to win. You are well aware that this men can play the game for years and will never pull as much/many as Jeffrey Epstein | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 10:53 AM |
| – | Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hillThe world isn’t fair. If it was fair, laws wouldn’t need to exist to stop exploitation and violence. The world is not fair because people pick unfairly. Like choosing the rapist over the shy weak man. Rejection isn’t a failing on your character, it’s an acknowledgement of an incompatibility between two people. A flaw in the man's character that creates such incompatibility. You can change yourself as much as you want but you can’t change other people. Be happy they don’t pretend to be interested… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 10:53 AM |
| – | Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hillIf you’re not going playing the game. You’re not going to win. You are well aware that this men can play the game for years and will never pull as much/many as Jeffrey Epstein | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 10:48 AM |
| – | Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hillYes. And I do. Anyone that acts in the way I find fair gets help. Anyone that acts in the way I find unfair gets nothing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 10:46 AM |
| – | Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hillSince when is the world fair? It is not. So we make it as fair as it can be and we punish the people that refuse to do so. During the entire human history we are trying to make the world a fair place. Different definitions of that term go to war. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 10:42 AM |
| – | Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hillThat implies that you’re entitled to their love because your more virtuous or whatever No. Believing in fairness and being entitled are two different things. If you were as virtuous as you claim to be, you would be ok with the rejection as it is something you cannot control. Why would I be ok with an action that creates an unfair situation? I can accept that it exists. But I don't have to accept it as moral or good or acceptable. You can be the juiciest peach but someone would only want an apple… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 10:40 AM |
| – | Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hillI can't access anyone's mind. The end result is the same as dislike. The criminals on the list get better results than weak, unmasculine, shy men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 10:37 AM |
| – | Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hillThe quality of the women that decide to date those men is absolutely irrelevant. Any is better than none. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 10:36 AM |
| – | Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hillRead this subreddit. It is common for women to say that incel's hate from women can be seen by them and that is the reason they don't get any. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 10:34 AM |
| – | Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hillThis is an argument that supports OPs position | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 10:34 AM |
| – | Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hillMen are quite open about how much looks matter when it comes to attracting a man. Men are not the ones saying that women without partners are failing because they are evil/criminals. If anything they say they are failing because they are older and can't compete in looks against younger women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 10:33 AM |
| – | Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hillIrrelevant. For anyone with a sense of fairness it is morally wrong that the men mentioned by OP get better results than non criminals. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 10:30 AM |
| – | Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hillWhich women? Enough of them. To the point that those men mentioned have better results than innocent incels. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 10:28 AM |
| – | Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hillThis does not contradict OP..if anything it provides another argument to support that position | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 10:27 AM |
| – | Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hillThe word "only" was not used by OP. Men are quite open about how much looks matter. Women are the ones that say incels lack of success is rooted in their hatred of women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/26 10:26 AM |
| 2 | Men are told to open up more. The only thing they open up about is women not fucking them. And then wonder why it's backfiring 🤦♂️Point to the hypocrisy. Different circumstances require different judgment. People that can pick from options get judged for picking wrong People without options don't get judged because they are not picking | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/26 10:07 PM |
| 1 | The red pill philosophy loses to a vibrator because a vibrator wont try to take your rights away.Well... Women in countries that recognize women's rights have less children than women on countries that don't. The same applies to wealth. The wealthier the country the lower the birthrates. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/26 06:46 PM |
| 5 | Men are told to open up more. The only thing they open up about is women not fucking them. And then wonder why it's backfiring 🤦♂️Well of course. Women have options to pick from. Men tend to not have those. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/26 01:33 PM |
| 1 | The superpower most men would choose—after eternal youth and unlimited wealth—is the ability to sleep with any woman they’re attracted to just by snapping their fingers.I am not aware of this channel/person. Will check it out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/26 01:18 PM |
| -5 | The superpower most men would choose—after eternal youth and unlimited wealth—is the ability to sleep with any woman they’re attracted to just by snapping their fingers.The bigger the change you inflicte upon the world the bigger the unintended consequences. Instead of playing God it is safer for everyone included the one in control of said power to do something mundane with it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/26 10:49 AM |
| – | Would you change your views and behaviour?And men are the ones that enforce the rights of black men as well. Seriously. There is no society in which women get rights without men wanting the same thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/26 10:43 AM |
| – | Would you change your views and behaviour?Women revolted and earned those rights that were reserved only for men. And men were and still are the ones that enforce those rights. If all men decide women have no rights there is no revolt that gives women anything. See literally every single society on earth. Unless there are men defending women's rights there are no women's rights. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/26 10:35 AM |
| 0 | The superpower most men would choose—after eternal youth and unlimited wealth—is the ability to sleep with any woman they’re attracted to just by snapping their fingers.I would go for something more broad like "mind/will control" Anything that removes the hassle of having to deal with the free will of others would be good. It is more broad than just sex. I just don't like to deal with humans that refuse to play the role I need them to play. I remove people from my life if they don't fit in the role I need them in and I spend a considerable amount of time and effort to create incentive structures that keep the people around me in the role I need them. Anything t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/26 10:34 AM |
| 1 | The red pill philosophy loses to a vibrator because a vibrator wont try to take your rights away.There is no place on earth outside the reach of the state and no way for anything other than a state to defend itself against a state. The state is for now the superior organization when it comes to the use of force. And the use of force determines what is possible and not. Unless you have a way to win against the state, it is useless to be against it. I am not going to waste my only life on a battle I can't win. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/26 10:25 AM |
| 2 | The red pill philosophy loses to a vibrator because a vibrator wont try to take your rights away.Because as long as any state exist there is no libertarianism possible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/26 05:03 AM |
| 4 | The red pill philosophy loses to a vibrator because a vibrator wont try to take your rights away.You know we have guns right? Men have those too. Since the invention of guns men are still the ones enforcing rights. Is all you bring to the table. What Rambo fever dream do you live in that "saving" Women from OTHER MEN means you should be given sex? That was not part of anything I said. Mainly because of the word "should" If you are a moral human and an adult you would realize you protect people's rights because they are human not because you want pussy. I am not. I am a merchant. Everything … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/26 05:02 AM |
| 14 | If you have to use Money or Status to attract a Women she just doesnt like you that much.So you discovered Alpha Fucks / Beta Bucks. That is well known. As long as you get what you want there is no reason to care about the details. You will never, ever know what lies in the mind of anyone. Your partner included. The only thing you can measure are actions. If you get her to do what you want whether she does it because of your looks or because of your money makes no difference. Get what you want in the way you can. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/26 12:27 AM |
| -5 | The red pill philosophy loses to a vibrator because a vibrator wont try to take your rights away.When a vibrator can protect woman against the men that want to take those rights away then and only then the vibrator will win. The only reason that thought can be considered and said is because there are enough men protecting the rights women still have. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/26 12:22 AM |
| – | Would you change your views and behaviour?Giving rights to the detriment of self-interest? What rights were exactly taken away from men in the west to the detriment of their self interest? None. Men gave women rights to the detriment of men's self interest. Voting rights? Oh no, men took that away from women. Incorrect. Women had no rights to be taken away in the first place. Then men gave those rights to women. Property rights? Oh no, men again took that away from women. Incorrect. Women had no rights to be taken away in the first plac… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/26 08:07 PM |
| 3 | Men have no sympathy towards womenBut it is equal. Mindset or not that is the way equality looks like. No special treatment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/26 04:38 PM |
| 2 | Men have no sympathy towards womenSo your problem is with equality and not lack of sympathy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/26 04:17 PM |
| 0 | Was OBSESSION (2026) a cultural net positive for modern dating and intersexual dynamics?You are unable to understand how deeply I envy that position. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/26 03:28 PM |
| 1 | Having low standards doesn't make you charitable, and it's not correlated with the ability ti love deeplyPlease elaborate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/26 12:36 PM |
| 1 | Having low standards doesn't make you charitable, and it's not correlated with the ability ti love deeplyWell those are two bodies and therefore different entities. Their traits may be similar or even the same. The role they might fulfill may even be the same. There is a difference. Both are different entities. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/26 12:33 PM |
| – | Having low standards doesn't make you charitable, and it's not correlated with the ability ti love deeplyMy bad. "A human is a body and the electrical/chemical patterns within it that distinguish it from a corpse" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/26 11:53 AM |
| – | Having low standards doesn't make you charitable, and it's not correlated with the ability ti love deeplyThe first will never happen because women don't value men the way men value women. (A human is a body and the only way to value someone for what they are is to value the body) The latter is the only option. And I am more than ok with playing the only game I can play. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/26 11:44 AM |
| – | Having low standards doesn't make you charitable, and it's not correlated with the ability ti love deeplyYes, no one is a very special snowflake Then everyone is replaceable for someone else that meets the standards. I'm sure even with very specific details, there's thousands of other men like me. See above The point is to connect with someone who meets your standards, but those standards have to select for things that actually have meaning beyond just looks and financial prowess. No. Those standards don't have to select for things that "have meaning" as you define whatever "have meaning" is. Those… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/26 11:13 AM |
| – | Having low standards doesn't make you charitable, and it's not correlated with the ability ti love deeplyIf I want to be in a relationship with someone in particular, it means there's something about them as a person that attracts me to them. Anyone that meets your high standards. Not someone in particular. That is how standards work. Low or high. If I just want someone to be my partner, just to not feel lonely, there's nothing special about who they are, they're fundamentally replaceable. They are replaceable only if someone else is willing and able to fill the role. Is this difference hard to und… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/26 11:00 AM |
| – | Having low standards doesn't make you charitable, and it's not correlated with the ability ti love deeplyThere's a common idea that people who have low standards are less picky (which is tautologically true), and that they are therefore more loving, more understanding, more accepting, and therefore less judgemental and forgiving; that they are more capable of loving deeply, or that they overlook specific flaws or traits. Compared to the people that have high standards. Which is true. Because the people with high standards are less likely to be loving, understanding, accepting, less judgemental and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/26 10:40 AM |
| 1 | Women will never be stuck alone.I don't agree that a man transitioning is any kind of woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/26 02:12 AM |
| 0 | Women will never be stuck alone.You are well aware that is not the case. You know it. Everyone knows it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/26 09:46 PM |
| 8 | Women will never be stuck alone.You can be ignorant, gross and correct. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/26 07:38 PM |
| 3 | Women will never be stuck alone.✋ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/26 07:26 PM |
| 2 | Women will never be stuck alone.But is it wrong? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/26 07:25 PM |
| 3 | Men have no sympathy towards womenEquality is equality. The change required to get it can be for the better or for the worse. It is still equality | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/26 05:37 PM |
| 6 | Men have no sympathy towards womenHoly long text. Men have no sympathy towards women In the west men have it. If you want to see how it looks when men don't have it look at the Islamic world. This is a long time brewing post, and it's going to be a long read. Long answer then. A lot of times here in debates i see men claim that women are treated better, that people are sympathetic to women automatically, simply because they are women. But is it so? Yes. Compared to men at least. In the western world. A lot of times i saw men com… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/26 11:05 AM |
| 1 | The root of misogyny is jealousy.Yes. I know. So what? My point is that men are doing something. And they can stop doing that something if they are not getting what they want from society. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/26 01:06 AM |
| – | If unselected men become a threat, society is more likely to get rid of them then placate themYeah, and now men in Afghanistan are rebelling against their incel overlords. Of course. Anyone that manages to piss off enough men gets kicked out. And rn, they are trying to turn us into Afghanistan but a Christian version. So, we do genuinely have to fight Christian fascism especially with the current climate of right wingers deciding to take away women's rights to appeal the evil incels For sure. Better get those men some GFs before they vote too much. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/26 06:55 PM |
| – | If unselected men become a threat, society is more likely to get rid of them then placate themI don't believe humans are so different. If it can happen in Afghanistan then it can happen in the west. Just piss off enough men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/26 06:40 PM |
| – | If unselected men become a threat, society is more likely to get rid of them then placate themIf you kill my wife/kids cuz you can't get one yourself, imma stab you idc (I am a woman but from, you kill my loved ones, why would i desire you to be handled like a victim) Yeah... that does not bring anyone back. Better to go with the option that does not require violence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/26 06:15 PM |
| 1 | The root of misogyny is jealousy.Ok. There is still no "want" and no "should" Back to the point then. Since men ARE putting criminals in jail they ARE doing something for women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/26 04:53 PM |
| – | If unselected men become a threat, society is more likely to get rid of them then placate themIf unselected men become a threat, society is more likely to get rid of them then placate them That only works if those men's numbers are small and if the rest of the men are willing to get rid of them. If the unselected men are a majority then you don't have the strenght to get rid of them. Nevermind what would happen if a majority of men are not pissed off to the point of wanting to break shit up but pissed off enough to just do nothing while the motivated ones do what they want. Why would the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/26 04:52 PM |
| 1 | The root of misogyny is jealousy.Your question: What exactly are men bending over backwards to do??? My answer: Keeping people that infringe upon women's rights in jail. That is the point. There is no "should" in the point. There is no "want" in the point. Your follow up So you’re saying that men don’t want to put criminals in jail because they want to punish feminists. No. There was no "want" in anything I said. I asked you to quote in which part of the comment I said anything about "want" because I didn't say anything about w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/26 04:13 PM |
| 3 | The root of misogyny is jealousy.I said the word "should"? Read again. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/26 03:16 PM |
| – | If women cannot be at peace with being the more sexually valuable gender, heterosexual dating can't become better.If you want something but you can't get it/ achieve that, you have to change to get it, or accept you can't. Apply that to ratial segregation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/26 11:44 AM |
| 2 | The root of misogyny is jealousy.Quote the part where I said that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/26 11:01 AM |
| 1 | If roughly half of Gen Z men have no hope of ever getting married and having children, how can anyone be surprised they're being radicalized?If that was the case I imagine most people would refuse to eat their own babies or to let other people eat their own babies. Proably it would devolve into tribalism in which some tribe subjugates another and eats their babies. If the tribe is subjugated for long enough they would end up as some kind of slaves dedicated to create babies for eating. See how easy it is to engage with a hypothetical scenario? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/26 03:56 AM |
| 1 | The root of misogyny is jealousy.Keeping people that infringe upon women's rights in jail. Does that count as something that men do for women? Because it is something that men can just stop doing while leaving women to their own devices. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/26 03:38 AM |
| 1 | If roughly half of Gen Z men have no hope of ever getting married and having children, how can anyone be surprised they're being radicalized?Bro keep dreaming. Women are earning more than men now than ever. Accept realiry And those women are not precisely happy with the lives they have in order to earn more than men and enough on their own. No, they don't have a desirable personality to bring to the table. That's the real problem I don't care how much personality a homeless man has, chances are he is not getting laid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/26 03:07 AM |
| -1 | If roughly half of Gen Z men have no hope of ever getting married and having children, how can anyone be surprised they're being radicalized?The entire point of the hypothetical is to assume that women know for sure that opposing abuse, sexual violence, discrimination and harassment makes society worse. Use your imagination. The point is not realism. The point is to figure out if women would choose society over themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/26 03:06 AM |
| -1 | If roughly half of Gen Z men have no hope of ever getting married and having children, how can anyone be surprised they're being radicalized?Still ignoring the hypothetical. Please address it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 10:02 PM |
| 1 | If roughly half of Gen Z men have no hope of ever getting married and having children, how can anyone be surprised they're being radicalized?Those communities will forever lose to any state because states are the superior organization when it comes to using violence. As long as states are the superior organization when it comes to using violence fighting them/running from then is useless. The only sensible alternative is to try to make then as small and non interventionists as it is possible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 10:01 PM |
| 0 | If roughly half of Gen Z men have no hope of ever getting married and having children, how can anyone be surprised they're being radicalized?Go off the grid and live your best anarcho capitalist life! As long as there is a state there is no "out the grid" No one is forcing you to exist in society as you are now. There is no place that is not affected by the existence of a state. States are good at using violence and therefore there is no point in believing you can run from them. Why do you need Daddy Government to change to validate your lifestyle? There is no place that is not affected by the existence of a state. States are good at… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 06:16 PM |
| 0 | If roughly half of Gen Z men have no hope of ever getting married and having children, how can anyone be surprised they're being radicalized?Would women choose society over their own interests? I gave you a hypothetical. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 06:13 PM |
| 2 | If roughly half of Gen Z men have no hope of ever getting married and having children, how can anyone be surprised they're being radicalized?I don't expect it. I am thankful when it happens. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 05:01 PM |
| 4 | Do women realize that the way they choose partners often rewards the same type of men?Fine by me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 05:00 PM |
| – | If roughly half of Gen Z men have no hope of ever getting married and having children, how can anyone be surprised they're being radicalized?I don't expect anything from anyone. If I expect that then I would not be thankful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 04:13 PM |
| 0 | Do women realize that the way they choose partners often rewards the same type of men?That's the issue of men then. I am not out here picking men to reward or grace with my mere presence You do it whether you want it or not I want to build a bond with someone where we know and understand each other deeply and moreso than anyone else and love each other. And you will create an incentive structure while doing so. This cannot be done if I am a walking g talkkng reward system. It can be done and it will be done because it can't be any other way. Shit men will pretend to be good to ge… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 04:12 PM |
| – | If roughly half of Gen Z men have no hope of ever getting married and having children, how can anyone be surprised they're being radicalized?I see this complaint here regularly. You do understand the state takes money from those who have it and gives it to those who do not including men? You do understand, to the extent many women get aid from the state it is because of children they are raising? Yes. I still believe the only way a human should get help is by convincing others to give help willingly without a state forcing it. More importantly, you do understand the state takes this money from women also to give to the less fortunate… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 04:08 PM |
| 4 | Do women realize that the way they choose partners often rewards the same type of men?This sets up the framework that women are rewards for men and their ability to not cause harm They are. Anything that someone wants is part of an incentive structure and therefore a reward. Why is it my job to give men who aren't shit people a reward? It is not. But you will create an incentive structure anyways. Because you are desired and through your picking you will tell men how they have to behave to get what they want. It makes me feel gross and like a state sanctioned prostitute Irrelevan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 03:29 PM |
| – | If roughly half of Gen Z men have no hope of ever getting married and having children, how can anyone be surprised they're being radicalized?this is a man arguing women SHOULD be transactional and exchange sex they don't want for goods and money So far so good. That is correct to this point. and they should be dependents of men. That was not my point. My point is that women should not get resources from the state, they should get it directly from men. That way men get to pick the price. It is not moral that the state purse gun to a man's head and takes money from him to give it to women. Honestly, I don't think this is what most men … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 03:17 PM |
| – | If roughly half of Gen Z men have no hope of ever getting married and having children, how can anyone be surprised they're being radicalized?That's not the trade. The trade is you work for society because you benefit from society The only benefit men are interested in is access to women's bodies as you put it. If men are not getting it then why should they work for society instead of against it? Also, you ignored the rest of the post. Would women choose society over their own interests? I gave you a hypothetical. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 02:39 PM |
| – | If roughly half of Gen Z men have no hope of ever getting married and having children, how can anyone be surprised they're being radicalized?Again, if this is a man's main leverage, it's his problem, not society's. If those men decide that society is an enemy that does not provide them with what they want it is society's problem. The problem with society is, men haven't learnt how to be women's equals when it comes to domestic labour and child rearing. And frankly, I don't even seen it as a problem. If you can't learn to value add to someone else's life, don't be surprised if you stay single. Not everyone is meant to have a partner, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 02:37 PM |
| – | If roughly half of Gen Z men have no hope of ever getting married and having children, how can anyone be surprised they're being radicalized?I am thankful towards the women that through picking men that wouldn't have anyone if it wasn't for them, keep men from destroying society. I am not thankful towards the women that don't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 02:35 PM |
| – | If roughly half of Gen Z men have no hope of ever getting married and having children, how can anyone be surprised they're being radicalized?Should other previously oppressed classes of people also thank you for not enslaving them or are women the only class of people who owes thanks for having basic human rights? Great point. Sure. It applies to all classes | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 02:33 PM |
| – | If roughly half of Gen Z men have no hope of ever getting married and having children, how can anyone be surprised they're being radicalized?But then, how will this make men less lonely or more sexed? Simple. The women that are unable to get everything they want from life on their own will have to get the rest through men and men will ask for sex in return. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 02:32 PM |
| – | If roughly half of Gen Z men have no hope of ever getting married and having children, how can anyone be surprised they're being radicalized?Why is men working for the good of society contingent on having access to women's bodies? Because that is how trade works. Either all parties get what they want or there is no trade. Women get radicalized from things like abuse, sexual violence, discrimination, harassment, etc. That is a reflection of what women want. And yet these women overwhelmingly become progressive to improve society, Not to improve society. To get what they want. Thought experiment. Let's say that women know for sure that… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 02:27 PM |
| 0 | You can't LOGIC your way into a women's heart. For men here - autistic analysis of every single detail is one of the reason for failure in dating.Good thing I am not interested in a woman's heart. I want her actions. And I absolutely can through logic convince a woman that doing what I want is the best possible option available to her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 01:44 PM |
| – | If roughly half of Gen Z men have no hope of ever getting married and having children, how can anyone be surprised they're being radicalized?Islamic countries. Enough said. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 01:40 PM |
| -1 | If roughly half of Gen Z men have no hope of ever getting married and having children, how can anyone be surprised they're being radicalized?We remain in south America. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 01:40 PM |
| 0 | If roughly half of Gen Z men have no hope of ever getting married and having children, how can anyone be surprised they're being radicalized?Yes. That goes for everyone. I don't consider looking after your own interests evil. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 01:39 PM |
| -5 | If roughly half of Gen Z men have no hope of ever getting married and having children, how can anyone be surprised they're being radicalized?They don't need to because they live in a society that gives them a chance to live a life they find worth living. When you don't then... Well you can't expect anyone to simply accept living their entire life without said chance. People don't accept it. They will use the tools they have. Barbaric or not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 12:03 PM |
| – | If roughly half of Gen Z men have no hope of ever getting married and having children, how can anyone be surprised they're being radicalized?Because women are not strong enough to take anything from men (as a group) through force. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/26 11:55 AM |
| 1 | If you could be born as a woman instead, would you?If I believed in god I would curse him for giving me the desire to live the lifestyle while not giving me the chance to get it. If protection means not having a chance to live the way I want then I don't want protection. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 10:06 PM |
| -4 | If you could be born as a woman instead, would you?Then it is on me to manipulate the men I picked. I am ok with that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 08:13 PM |
| -3 | If you could be born as a woman instead, would you?I know it comes with a lot of risks and I am ok with that. As long as there is a realistic chance to live the way I want to live at least for a while I would take them. If everything falls apart it is my fault. Either I picked the wrong person or I fucked up something in the relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 08:05 PM |
| 2 | If you could be born as a woman instead, would you?I absolutely would Is taking on the reproductive burden, orgasm gap, motherhood penalty, beauty standards, physical weakness - worth it? Yes. Still, would you make that choice, do you think it could benefit you overall? If yes, how so? I don't get to make use of strength in any way that matters. There are laws against doing so. And that is good. I don't care about the orgasm gap. I want to have control about whether I am a parent or not during the whole process and not only before sex happens. I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 07:57 PM |
| 0 | I don't understand why men take pride in saying they have low standardsNah. Just joking. A few mistakes but the idea is clear enough. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/26 12:00 AM |
| 5 | I don't understand why men take pride in saying they have low standardsI don't know what is to debate here. Isn't it a good thing to be proud of how you are? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/26 11:46 PM |
| 1 | I don't understand why men take pride in saying they have low standardsAre we too hard on AI posts? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/26 11:44 PM |
| 1 | Desperation isn’t that bad.Any show of weakness is something I see as an opportunity. People that are strong are people that don't need me. People that don't need me are more likely to leave. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/26 10:43 AM |
| 1 | Desperation isn’t that bad.Tried it. Helped me buy time until I found a relationship. I don't carry it my whole life. Only when I am not in a LTR. And I am in a LTR now and have been in it for 10 years. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/26 10:42 AM |
| 1 | Desperation isn’t that bad.Those are the folks who cry a lot, struggle to believe you when you say you love them, and then say they’ll probably kill themselves if you ever broke up. Didn't need to sell it that hard. I was already interested. They’re also more likely to cheat if the opportunity presents itself, because their desperation makes it hard to not pursue all forms of attention Fair. It is on me to create an adequate incentive structure and to reduce the chances of said opportunity presenting itself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/26 04:30 AM |
| 1 | Desperation isn’t that bad.There is plenty of things that give me joy. Mostly nerd things and the feeling of calm that comes with silence and not dealing with people. Joy does not increase my will to live. I tried. It only delays the inevitable. Also, it does not help that the things I tend to find joy in are not considered attractive. After I found myself in a relationship the issue of "not wanting to remain in the server" was solved. Any price is worth paying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/26 04:01 AM |
| 1 | Desperation isn’t that bad.though i’d argue that a man desperate for a relationship would actually do better with women with a backbone than without one Back to the question then. Also why can't his back bone be the goal that he holds dear? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/26 01:27 AM |
| 1 | Desperation isn’t that bad.Because being outside a LTR makes me want to take a bath with a working toaster. To put it in a way that reddit does not frown upon. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/26 01:27 AM |
| 1 | Desperation isn’t that bad.Yes | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/26 01:19 AM |
| 0 | Desperation isn’t that bad.Has to? Also why can't his back bone be the goal that he holds dear? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/26 01:18 AM |
| 0 | Desperation isn’t that bad.Precisely what I said. He is not folding nor compromising in anything he holds dear for an end or goal. The goal is what he holds dear. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/26 11:49 PM |
| 0 | Desperation isn’t that bad.Strenght is only a tool I use to get a relationship. If it gets in the way it is thrown away | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/26 11:48 PM |
| 0 | Desperation isn’t that bad.there is something inherently unattractive about a man who might be willing to quickly fold or compromise on things he holds dear for an end goal Sounds like he holds that end goal dear and not whatever you thought he held dear. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/26 11:19 PM |
| 0 | Desperation isn’t that bad.Lesson learned. Don't be up front. Become what others want from you. Take what you can get and shut up about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/26 11:18 PM |
| 0 | Desperation isn’t that bad.there’s a difference between a man who is interested and intentional and upfront about what they want and a man who just wants a relationship, not necessarily caring that it’s with me But both options are perfectly compatible. A man can be interested, intention and upfront about wanting a relationship, not necessarily caring that it is with you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/26 09:54 PM |
| 1 | Desperation isn’t that bad.You didn't need to sell it that hard. I was already interested. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/26 09:52 PM |
| -1 | Desperation isn’t that bad.That bypasses the whole concept of compatibility That is a positive thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/26 09:50 PM |
| 0 | Desperation isn’t that bad.Is there a difference between pretending to be something and building yourself to be something in your mind? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/26 09:50 PM |
| 1 | The manosphere thrives because society has failed to provide an alternative.What do you think we were talking about when talking about "bare minimum" in this context? Because I believe it was quite obvious that we were talking about the bare minimum traits and qualities a man must have to be attractive enough to have a relationship. Not necessarily a good relationship, not healthy relationship, not attractive partner. Just a relationship with any woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/26 08:03 PM |
| 1 | The manosphere thrives because society has failed to provide an alternative.So it is not a bare minimum then. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/26 07:59 PM |
| 1 | The manosphere thrives because society has failed to provide an alternative.If the bare minimum was only the basic parts of being an adult there would not be any adult man without a partner/girlfriend/wife. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/26 07:32 PM |
| 2 | The manosphere thrives because society has failed to provide an alternative.Its not some kind of demented schedule bro, you dont need to be allocating segments of your day 'upkeeping your social skills' If I don't I lose them. nor does keeping fit require hours every day at the gym. That is why I added other activities to get to those 2 hours a day. Stop dodging the question. We didn't even get to other traits required to get to bare minimum. How does something that require so much time get to be considered low effort? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/26 01:06 PM |
| 2 | The manosphere thrives because society has failed to provide an alternative.No. Read again. I said two hours a day to include development and up keeping of social skills, level of fitness, dressing and hygiene. All of those. Obviously I used conservative and general numbers. Maybe one day you spend two hours socializing, some other day you spend more hours at the gym. But averaging all of those activities I gave it two hours a day. Now back to the question you.are not answering. I didn't even consider other traits that need time to develop and upkeep and we are getting … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/26 11:50 AM |
| 3 | The manosphere thrives because society has failed to provide an alternative.But you are the one arguing that a job is not even bare minimum and seem to know what bare minimum is. Also you seem to believe it is not that much effort. Let's say the bare minimum includes a job (8 hours a day considering commute). I imagine some level of fitness and social skills maybe are part of the minimum. Both of those require time. Let's not forget dressing and hygiene. Let's say two hours a day? I don't know if there is anything else but being generous with the time required and consi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/26 10:54 AM |
| 3 | The manosphere thrives because society has failed to provide an alternative.You still didn't told me how many hours I would have left for myself after I did everything I have to do to meet the bare minimum requirements. Care to tell me which percentage of my life would I get to keep for myself after all that? Don't need to be exact just a ballpark number after sleep is accounted for. I would even accept poor sleep just to increase the percentage a little bit. Which percentage of my life would I keep for myself after doing everything that needs to be done to meet the min… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/26 10:33 AM |
| 2 | The manosphere thrives because society has failed to provide an alternative.Anything that requires you to spend close to a third of all the hours in your life is high effort. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/26 10:18 AM |
| 3 | The manosphere thrives because society has failed to provide an alternative.Forgot to add the hours you need to spend to achieve the rest of the list that is actually bare minimum | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/26 10:17 AM |
| 1 | Everyone wants to be chosen by an attractive personPersonally I don't want to be chosen. To be chosen means there were other options. If there were other options those options either are still out there or they can be there again in the future. I want stability. I don't want to be chosen between options. I want the be the only option. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/26 02:29 AM |
| 2 | The manosphere thrives because society has failed to provide an alternative.I said "alternative". As in, not the current option available today. Because that way is not working and there is not an alternative is the reason red pill thrives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/26 02:10 AM |
| 3 | The manosphere thrives because society has failed to provide an alternative.Any answer to the questions? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/26 02:09 AM |
| 5 | The manosphere thrives because society has failed to provide an alternative.Ok, less than the bare minimum requires you to spend how many hours a day doing something you would rather not do? How much time do you have to spend to meet the other requirements that are actually bare minimum? How much time a day is left to actually do something you want to do after you meet that bare minimum? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 11:54 PM |
| 6 | The manosphere thrives because society has failed to provide an alternative.A job means at least 8 hours of your day gone and that does not even consider the time at the gym. If the requirement is to waste half of your waking hours at least then for sure it is high effort. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 10:54 PM |
| 2 | The manosphere thrives because society has failed to provide an alternative.Why, then, do suppose you guys defend it with your lives? It is in the title. Society has failed to provide an alternative. And to be clear. An alternative means a path in which men can get sex, relationsips and children. If a man can't get those then it is not an acceptable alternative. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 10:53 PM |
| 0 | Just pick someone else is silly.The same problem there is when I decide to hire X over Y. Y does not get what they want so they get to complain. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 08:31 PM |
| 0 | Just pick someone else is silly.Always complaints. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 07:52 PM |
| 2 | Just pick someone else is silly.Under the same logic one should not complain about bad conditions at work because any work is better than no work I guess. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/26 02:48 AM |
| 1 | Just pick someone else is silly.No alternative. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 11:45 PM |
| -4 | Just pick someone else is silly.You don't need to have an abundance of options laying at you feet to go actively search our the type of person you will actually like. That is not the argument. The argument is that you need the options in order to PICK. Not to search. The lazier you are in your search for a partner the more likely you are to meet people who aren't a good fit for yourself. If you want to rely solely on online dating you either better be really good at creating a profile or ok dating people who are less than what… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 11:43 PM |
| -8 | Just pick someone else is silly.Yes. They should keep pursuing women that are incompatible because any is better than none | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 11:42 PM |
| 3 | Alot of women want to control men and their sex life and it can be proven by a simple hypotheticalI don't know how you managed to come up with this hypohetical scenario but I am interested in seeing what women think about it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 03:31 PM |
| 1 | A woman's "bare minimum" is never just the bare minimumSo morals and values on't matter, eh? Not what I said. I said that I, personally, care more about my partner (that I picked based on my own morals and valuess) than prejudice. Good. We won't hear any more complaints from you that women should reward sex to "good men, right?" See above Good men aren't bigots toward gay people. If those are your morals, defend them. I have nothing against it. Funny how even a sociopath (you claim) has no trouble holding completely inconsistent positions based on w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 02:45 AM |
| 0 | A woman's "bare minimum" is never just the bare minimumLogic error based on a false premise. I quoted the premise from previous comment. Not my premise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 02:42 AM |
| 0 | A woman's "bare minimum" is never just the bare minimumSure. If she can find him and is able to attract him and keep him for the long term. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/26 05:53 PM |
| 1 | A woman's "bare minimum" is never just the bare minimumtolerate prejudice, is what this boils down to? What it boils down to is to pick what matters to you and act accordingly. If you care about prejudice more than you care about your partner then sure, don't accept prejudice. we’re on the same page that homophobia is a prejudice, right? genuine Qs i’m more fascinated than anything by this take Yes. Same page. I care about my partner more than I care about prejudice. So I would tolerate it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/26 05:52 PM |
| 0 | A woman's "bare minimum" is never just the bare minimumwhy be with someone who gives ultimatums anyway? I don't remember when anyone brought up ultimatums. the gay friend isn't the issue, she's not the issue, the husband is the issue. Depends on the perspective. why go through all of this when there are men out there who won't even make this whole thing an issue. Maybe because humans are complex and they have positives and negatives. even in your first point already there is ultimatums and ranking system in a relationship that doesn't require a rank… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/26 05:47 PM |
| 0 | There's No Shame in a Man Wanting a BangmaidBloodless? That is new. Thank you I guess. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/26 05:42 PM |
| -6 | There's No Shame in a Man Wanting a BangmaidWould you like it if your gf or wife affectionately called you her “Wallet ATM 🥰”? Of course you wouldn’t. Speak for yourself. No man would. Hi. Man here. Because it’s dehumanizing and reduces him down to his ability to provide money. Way too late for that. I already accept that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/26 04:28 PM |
| -7 | A woman's "bare minimum" is never just the bare minimumwhat if a woman has a gay brother or a gay best friends and her boyfriend or husband is homophobic? That would mean picking between husband and gay best friend. Pick the one that is more important. If the woman picks the gay best friend, then that just means the gay best friend position is more important than the husband position and she will leave any kind of husband if they come at odds with gay best friend. what if she has a trans girl in her friend group and her boyfriend is transphobic? Sam… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/26 04:24 PM |
| 3 | A lot of men do not believe women as a whole should have bodily autonomy, which can be proven by a simply hypothetical.Then why antagonize with them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/26 04:14 PM |
| 0 | A lot of men do not believe women as a whole should have bodily autonomy, which can be proven by a simply hypothetical.Men are stronger than women so what can woman realistically do. Accept reality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/26 04:14 PM |
| – | Do youn think artificial wombs would solve the abortion issue for everyone?Women will never accept to pay for a kid they didn't even want to exist. Women not only want control over pregnancy, they want control over the consequences of having sex. It is not enough to have the right to interrupt the pregnancy if they can still be held responsible in any way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/26 03:19 PM |
| 2 | A lot of men do not believe women as a whole should have bodily autonomy, which can be proven by a simply hypothetical.You do understand that men are also the ones that implemented and enforce the laws that give women control over their bodies and reproductive gametes? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/26 01:47 PM |
| 0 | A lot of men do not believe women as a whole should have bodily autonomy, which can be proven by a simply hypothetical.How abut I don't deny it precisely so you weigh the situation you are in. Just for a change of pace. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/26 01:44 PM |
| -1 | A lot of men do not believe women as a whole should have bodily autonomy, which can be proven by a simply hypothetical.The thing with freedom and autonomy is that you can use those to make other's lives worse and you can't blame them for reacting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/26 12:25 PM |
| 11 | Dont ask for incentives to be a decent person,Hi Lilith. This is really what women mean when they say nice guys are entitled. Because so many guys want a reason ( a trophy) for being the bare minimum of decent himan beings. That is how the world works. Populations react to incentives. You want a world filled with people that act good and avoid acting bad. Then punish bad and reward good. However, none of them seem to have ever asked themselves “Why should people put up with my shitty attitude?” "Because all other options available to that p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/26 10:28 PM |
| 3 | Lying and being manipulative to get a girl or keep a girl is bad and will screw you overOr good sense for making cost benefit analysis | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/26 03:26 PM |
| -2 | Men had their Enlightenment in the 17th and 18th centuries. Women’s may be about to comeAnd proud of being that way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/26 10:15 PM |
| 1 | why cant you lust after average men?Doesn’t matter, that’s what they want from you, and therefore they care about you more than your friends and family It does matter. They want the productivity, not me (the body) And friends are family if they care about what I do instead of what I am (a body), care about me exactly as much. Zero. Because the only way to care about me (a body) is to care about the body and not what the body does. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/26 08:29 PM |
| 1 | why cant you lust after average men?Not at all. They want the productivity and they would take that productivity without my body if it was possible and made financial sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/26 07:23 PM |
| 1 | why cant you lust after average men?Replace the human with a robot. Productivity without a human body. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/26 06:28 PM |
| 1 | why cant you lust after average men?No it is not. Because the body can exist while being unproductive | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/26 05:26 PM |
| 1 | Why obsess over women with terrible boyfriends?Why is that unfair? Serial killer gets better results than non serial killer. Results are measured in number of women interested. Quality of women is not relevant. It is based on so many false assumptions. Such as "fairness matters"? Nevertheless it being fair is irrelevant as life is unfair. Bad argument. Using that logic slavery is acceptable because life ris unfair. It’s unfair the serial killer was even killing people. For sure. It is even more unfair that he gets more women interested in hi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/26 05:26 PM |
| 1 | Why obsess over women with terrible boyfriends?A single instance of a serial killer that has more women interested in them than a non serial killer is unfair. That is all. You don't need a significant percentage of women to create such scenario. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/26 04:11 PM |
| 1 | why cant you lust after average men?You statement wasn’t about your humanity, it was about who “cares” about you. And in order to care about me they must care about what/who I am (my body) and not what I do. And according to your definition, people who seek to use your body for their own gratification, whether you want them to or not, “care” about you more than people who don’t. Correct. That is because of the definition of what "me" is. A body. A gay man raping you or an employer who forces you to destroy your body through hard p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/26 04:10 PM |
| 2 | Lying and being manipulative to get a girl or keep a girl is bad and will screw you overWell of course. No manipulator that knows what they are doing would do so in such a way | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/26 03:57 PM |
| 3 | Lying and being manipulative to get a girl or keep a girl is bad and will screw you overWell you can be manipulative without lying. Then why use a definition of manipulation that includes lying? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/26 01:00 PM |
| 3 | Lying and being manipulative to get a girl or keep a girl is bad and will screw you overFound my partner 10+ years ago. Already got what I wanted using my methods. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/26 11:04 AM |
| 5 | Lying and being manipulative to get a girl or keep a girl is bad and will screw you overNewsflash. Most men would rather go through that than be incels. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/26 11:00 AM |
| 4 | Lying and being manipulative to get a girl or keep a girl is bad and will screw you overI'm also disabled as I have multiple disabilities and he was being paid to be my carer from the government so yeah. So he was stealing tax money as well. Quite a POS. Someone who controls, influences, or exploits others in an underhanded, deceptive, or unfair manner. It is manipulative because it's lying to decieve to reap rewards and benifits. Fair. If you define manipulation in a way that includes lying then sure Why make a distinction between the two then? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/26 11:00 AM |
| 2 | Lying and being manipulative to get a girl or keep a girl is bad and will screw you overRight in the place no one can see and there is no evidence of it existing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/26 10:58 AM |
| 5 | Lying and being manipulative to get a girl or keep a girl is bad and will screw you overAre you sure? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/26 10:45 AM |
| 2 | Lying and being manipulative to get a girl or keep a girl is bad and will screw you overYou would not be able to see the difference between someone that helps because they are a good person and someone that is doing it out of a selfish reason. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/26 10:44 AM |
| 2 | Lying and being manipulative to get a girl or keep a girl is bad and will screw you overSimply refusing to ever do it, even when I begged and pleaded and after I had surgery and was in recovery. Refusing to do something is not using force. But I do give you that when you are vulnerable after a surgery anything can feel like a threat It was being manipulative, because if he had told me he never intended to clean I'd of broken up and never lived with him. That would be lying by omission. Not saying the truth with the intent of making the other party assume something beneficial. Not m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/26 10:43 AM |
| 3 | Lying and being manipulative to get a girl or keep a girl is bad and will screw you overYou don't have to be a twat to manipulate people. Doing favors to someone in such a way that they feel in debt towards you to collect the favor in a latter day is manipulation. No damage. No lies. Just providing help with selfish motives to do so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/26 10:41 AM |
| 3 | Lying and being manipulative to get a girl or keep a girl is bad and will screw you overThat sounds like lying by omission. Also Forced you? Which force did he use? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/26 10:40 AM |
| 4 | Lying and being manipulative to get a girl or keep a girl is bad and will screw you overI agree with the lying part. All your examples are about lying. You can manipulate without lying. It is better in the long term | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/26 10:35 AM |
| 1 | If there is no obligations and nobody owes anyone anything. We should go fully, not picking and choosing. Men particularly, Need to simply be selfish and self serving, alot more.I am not going to do anything. If anything happens it will be because a majority, or at least a big plurality of the population decides it needs to happen. For what? Because me voting for the benefits of others is not free. I can do it. Someone has to give me what I want so I do it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/26 10:01 AM |
| 1 | If there is no obligations and nobody owes anyone anything. We should go fully, not picking and choosing. Men particularly, Need to simply be selfish and self serving, alot more.Democracy already votes to opress the people that break the law. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/26 04:32 AM |
| – | Why obsess over women with terrible boyfriends?Ah, and like clockwork, you are back to claiming this exceptionally tiny minority of women are actually super important and it doesn’t matter one tiny bit whether they are evil horrible women. They are not important. They are (partially) responsible for an unfair situation. They are women, so no matter how evil they are, you would gladly reward them for their terrible behavior with your undivided attention. If they valued my attention then we could say I am rewarding them. They don't. And that i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/26 01:41 AM |
| 1 | If there is no obligations and nobody owes anyone anything. We should go fully, not picking and choosing. Men particularly, Need to simply be selfish and self serving, alot more.Because it fails to be a democracy if you vote for someone's oppression We can vote a government that legislates the oppression of murderers. We did it. I guess it is no longer a democracy. You can vote a dictator in as a democracy, but once he is in, it is no longer a democracy If the dictator was voted in and he can be voted out then it is not a dictator. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/26 01:39 AM |
| 1 | why cant you lust after average men?Do you think slave masters choosing stronger slaves for their bodies cared about them as a human being? No. They cared about their productivity. The results of their actions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/26 01:37 AM |
| 1 | If there is no obligations and nobody owes anyone anything. We should go fully, not picking and choosing. Men particularly, Need to simply be selfish and self serving, alot more.So how is indifference and voting against your interests unacceptable in a democracy? I mean I get that you think that if your freedom ends because I want sex that makes me bad, but that is not the question. The question is if it is unacceptable in a democracy for a man to vote and be indifferent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/26 12:32 AM |
| 1 | If there is no obligations and nobody owes anyone anything. We should go fully, not picking and choosing. Men particularly, Need to simply be selfish and self serving, alot more.Voting is legal. Not putting myself at risk in a violent situation is legal. I am pretty sure I remain inside the rules. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 11:02 PM |
| – | Why obsess over women with terrible boyfriends?It’s strange because when I said that interest means nothing if it’s not acted upon you disagreed but that is the basis which you use to determine that a criminal gets more interest than a non-criminal. The criminal is willing to act on the fact that other women want him while the good guys isn’t that’s the difference. No. The difference is the number of women interested. You just made that up with zero evidence. Serial killers have women interested in them. Non serial killer incels exist. That … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 11:01 PM |
| 1 | why cant you lust after average men?Sure. Still missing the point. I can be productive or unproductive and will still remain the same human. So whatever makes my identity is not in my productivity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 07:12 PM |
| 1 | why cant you lust after average men?Yes. And I am the body. Not the use. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 06:49 PM |
| 1 | why cant you lust after average men?I am the body, not the productivity. The one who cares about productivity does not care about me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 06:34 PM |
| – | Why obsess over women with terrible boyfriends?Should not? Are you an arbiter on what should be? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 05:55 PM |
| 1 | why cant you lust after average men?My job does not care about my body. He cares about my actions being productive. Same as the government. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 05:54 PM |
| 1 | why cant you lust after average men?Sure. If we accept what you say as true and my definition then they don't care about me | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 04:12 PM |
| – | Why obsess over women with terrible boyfriends?This isn’t really unfairness, though. The majority of women end up with average men. Why measure fairness at the end and not during the whole process? The world reflects that, therefore there is not much unfairness born simply out of the small percentage of women going for awful men. Any amount of unfairness is unfair. Also, how is the quality of the women not relevant? Because a woman interested in you is a woman interested in you now matter the quality of said woman. A woman who has a preferen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 04:01 PM |
| – | Why obsess over women with terrible boyfriends?I never said men were good in this aspect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 03:58 PM |
| 1 | why cant you lust after average men?My job cares about the results provided by my body. Not about my body. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 03:57 PM |
| – | Why obsess over women with terrible boyfriends?Why would that be fair? It just assumes romantic interest is a reward for being good it has nothing to do with “fairness”. Because either everything is subject to fairness or nothing is. But if the interest isn’t acted upon it means nothing. Says you. Plenty of good men have multiple women interested in them. Good. Not enough. Serial killers have more women interested in them than a boring non criminal. You think a man like Obama doesn’t have multiple women interested in him? The point is he’s n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 03:03 PM |
| 1 | Why obsess over women with terrible boyfriends?Sure. All morality is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 02:58 PM |
| – | Why obsess over women with terrible boyfriends?Yes, tax payers are owed a service from their government because they have paid for it in their taxes. That is literally what taxes are. Unless the majority decides they are not owed shit. Because democracy allows for that to happen. The argument you are using is lazy anyways. Women’s vaginas are not arbiters of morality because that is not their function—whether they care about morality in who they pick or not is irrelevant to this fact. Things are what they are used for. There is no inherent p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 02:58 PM |
| 1 | If there is no obligations and nobody owes anyone anything. We should go fully, not picking and choosing. Men particularly, Need to simply be selfish and self serving, alot more.That if someone must be harmed in order for you to get what you want makes you bad. So if someone wants something that if true makes me love my life without getting what I want then that someone is bad because they are harming me? I want many things in life, but I cannot feel comfortable taking away the rights and safety of others to acheive my desires Weak willed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 02:56 PM |
| – | Why obsess over women with terrible boyfriends?But it is logically consistent. "If life is unfair" is a valid argument in any scenario it works for every scenario | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 02:27 PM |
| – | Why obsess over women with terrible boyfriends?What would be considered fair in this case? That moral people get more people romantically/sexually interested in them compared to immoral people. Because it doesn’t make sense that a good guy would be dating multiple women and the same time or running through women. Interest does not have to be acted upon. So the proof is in the pudding as goodness contradicts cheating and promiscuity in men and women. See above. Also believing that women are a reward for being good is also not very good of you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 02:11 PM |
| – | Why obsess over women with terrible boyfriends?Women’s vaginas are not the arbiters of morality. Because women don't care about morality when picking who they date. They’re not the judicial system. Only because women don't care about justice when picking who they date. Romantic attention is not owed, therefore it’s not relevant to fairness. Everything is relevant to fairness or nothing is. An individual can pick their partner using fairness and therefore it is relevant to fairness. Other things are owed, and the government has an obligation … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 02:08 PM |
| – | Why obsess over women with terrible boyfriends?You are right, you could apply "life isn't fair" to these, but you would be a trash man. What is trash is an argument that can be used to defend those things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 02:01 PM |
| – | Why obsess over women with terrible boyfriends?Infringement? Who talked about infringement? If the individual cares about fairness they will apply it when picking a partner and there would be no infringement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 01:59 PM |
| – | Why obsess over women with terrible boyfriends?Ok. Should we apply that to ratial inequality? Economic inequality? Women's rights? Because "life isn't fair" applies as a defense for all types of unfairness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 01:55 PM |
| – | Why obsess over women with terrible boyfriends?Sure. But for the people that actually have fairness as a principle they believe it should apply to everything. Either fairness matters or it doesn't. Either applies to everything or to nothing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 01:51 PM |
| – | Why obsess over women with terrible boyfriends?Fairness. The reason is fairness. The fact that a felon can get more women interested in him than a boring non criminal seems unfair to anyone that has some sense of fairness. And as I always tell you, the quality of the women is not relevant. The obsession is not about those women. It is about the unfairness that is born out of their decision to pursue a terrible human as a boyfriend. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 01:46 PM |
| 1 | why cant you lust after average men?Right so back to my original question, explain the men who will fuck your body when they hate that part of it? How it that humanizing? A human may have many traits and the sum total of negative and positive traits may be over all positive. Of that party of the cost is the most important part to me why is then poking the meat sack pay with their penis supposed to make me feel great when they hate the rest of me? It is not supposed to make you feel great. My argument is that it is humanizing when … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 12:32 PM |
| 0 | If there is no obligations and nobody owes anyone anything. We should go fully, not picking and choosing. Men particularly, Need to simply be selfish and self serving, alot more.Sure. Should I just accept not getting what I want in the only life I get to live? Should anyone? What makes the interests of others more important than my own? If you are going to ask other people to waste their life then you should be aware that some people will just tell you "no" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 12:28 PM |
| 0 | why cant you lust after average men?There is no person inside the body. The person and the body are the same. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 12:10 PM |
| 2 | If there is no obligations and nobody owes anyone anything. We should go fully, not picking and choosing. Men particularly, Need to simply be selfish and self serving, alot more.If that is the price to pay to get what I want from life. I only have one and I am not wasting it by not getting what I want out of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 11:25 AM |
| 1 | If there is no obligations and nobody owes anyone anything. We should go fully, not picking and choosing. Men particularly, Need to simply be selfish and self serving, alot more.It is not what I want in return. So there is no trade. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 10:47 AM |
| 1 | If there is no obligations and nobody owes anyone anything. We should go fully, not picking and choosing. Men particularly, Need to simply be selfish and self serving, alot more.We will see. I doubt it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 10:21 AM |
| 1 | why cant you lust after average men?Those actions can only be carried out by your body Yeah. But I remain the same person even if I change my actions so it follows that my actions are not part of who I am. Gay men also care more about you than your friends and family, and even your partner. They are in fact the most caring people in your life, because they care about your body the most Yes | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 10:21 AM |
| 1 | why cant you lust after average men?The first is correct. The latter is not. Employers care about my actions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 09:43 AM |
| 1 | If there is no obligations and nobody owes anyone anything. We should go fully, not picking and choosing. Men particularly, Need to simply be selfish and self serving, alot more.And they come to those countries without an interest in leaving their culture behind. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 09:43 AM |
| 1 | why cant you lust after average men?Then they never cared about her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 06:21 AM |
| 0 | why cant you lust after average men?If the only part of a human you care about is a body go fuck a corpse- a body that has no personality or feelings or thoughts. I already mentioned the chemical/electrical patterns within a body. Those make the difference between a corpse and a human. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 06:21 AM |
| 0 | If there is no obligations and nobody owes anyone anything. We should go fully, not picking and choosing. Men particularly, Need to simply be selfish and self serving, alot more.First of all, remember that I don't vote extremist unless I am not getting what I want from life. Second. It is on me to plan for that situation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 06:17 AM |
| 1 | If there is no obligations and nobody owes anyone anything. We should go fully, not picking and choosing. Men particularly, Need to simply be selfish and self serving, alot more.You wish harm on the people you keep demanding them to love you. I don't wish harm on anyone. And I don't demand anyone to love me. I don't care about love. I care about actions. That makes you abusive and unkind and horrible. Hence why you and the men like you are and should stay lonely I am not lonely. I found Miss Moral more than ten years ago. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 03:36 AM |
| 0 | why cant you lust after average men?I don't think you quite understood my reply. I'm not arguing against what you said. what I'm arguing is: how can you understand a human being without observing their behaviors and reactions? even the most advanced medical technology cannot tell you who that person is fundamentally, even in a biological sense. however, it is possible to infer something about them by observing their actions (even if the actions are a result of who they are and not the other way around). Fair. I see your point. In … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 03:23 AM |
| 2 | If there is no obligations and nobody owes anyone anything. We should go fully, not picking and choosing. Men particularly, Need to simply be selfish and self serving, alot more.Fair enough. It is still not speaking about what it should be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 03:18 AM |
| 2 | If there is no obligations and nobody owes anyone anything. We should go fully, not picking and choosing. Men particularly, Need to simply be selfish and self serving, alot more."It is ridiculous for men not to..." and "men should..." are the same fucking statement. No they are not. "It is ridiculous to" speaks about what it is. "Men should" speaks about what should be. You can't just say you're not speaking about what should be because you didn't use the word "should". I can. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 02:59 AM |
| 2 | If there is no obligations and nobody owes anyone anything. We should go fully, not picking and choosing. Men particularly, Need to simply be selfish and self serving, alot more.Men should use any tools available to them, but there tools only include lack of support and not direct violence? I say NOTHING about what "Should". I speak about what it IS. Then you asked me about what I believe. And I answered what I believe. But what I believe says nothing about what "should" You're going back on your own statements because you realized the implications of what you said are worse than what you intended. Not at all. As I said. What I believe to be correct says nothing about w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 02:50 AM |
| -7 | why cant you lust after average men?"Caring about" in the context of this discussion, lusting after. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 02:45 AM |
| 2 | If there is no obligations and nobody owes anyone anything. We should go fully, not picking and choosing. Men particularly, Need to simply be selfish and self serving, alot more.I don't believe it is ok to pressure women into sex using threats of violence. I do believe it is ok to pressure any human into doing anything using threats of absolute lack of support and lack of any kind of defense against outside threats. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 02:43 AM |
| 2 | If there is no obligations and nobody owes anyone anything. We should go fully, not picking and choosing. Men particularly, Need to simply be selfish and self serving, alot more.Deserve does not enter into consideration. People get what they negotiate for. Or what they can take. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 02:40 AM |
| 2 | If there is no obligations and nobody owes anyone anything. We should go fully, not picking and choosing. Men particularly, Need to simply be selfish and self serving, alot more.No. Lets go again. I believe every single man alive has only one life to get what they want from it. And it is ridiculous to expect them to not use every single tool available to them to try to get what they want in the only life they have. My position says nothing about what it "should" be. My position speaks about what it IS. And it IS ridiculous to expect that men will just accept that society leaves them with no viable path to get what they want in the single life they have to get it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 02:39 AM |
| 2 | If there is no obligations and nobody owes anyone anything. We should go fully, not picking and choosing. Men particularly, Need to simply be selfish and self serving, alot more.It is not socially acceptable. Because the majority of society is against that. That can change. Consensus relies on most people getting what they want. And the enforcement of consensus relies on most men getting what they want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 02:35 AM |
| -1 | why cant you lust after average men?however I do think actions, reputation, and skills are an outcome of the inherent identity of the person and necessary for understanding who that person is. And I disagree because we can take a human, remove the reputation, remove the skills, change their behavior and they would have not became someone else, they would remain the exact same human. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 02:33 AM |
| 2 | why cant you lust after average men?Have you ever spent time around someone who was dealing with dementia? Because the loss of self is really apparent. Grandmother. Alzheimer. Multiple years. Some horrible shit to see. I would still argue that she remain herself even when her mind was definitely unrecognizeable. I can't find an argument to say she became someone else. You might still be human, but lose the person that you were. See above. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 02:31 AM |
| 2 | If there is no obligations and nobody owes anyone anything. We should go fully, not picking and choosing. Men particularly, Need to simply be selfish and self serving, alot more.Ok. I still believe it is possible that a significant percentage of men will end up as the guys we are talking about if the situation continues as it is going. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 02:30 AM |
| 2 | If there is no obligations and nobody owes anyone anything. We should go fully, not picking and choosing. Men particularly, Need to simply be selfish and self serving, alot more.As I said in some other comment in this thread. I don't have to be violent. I just have to vote and do nothing when violence happens. A small number of violent men can do a lot if a majority is just not interested nor willing to stop them. I have no reason to be violent. So you sincerely think that it's ok to be violent towards women because they won't have sex with you? Because that's what this boils down to. I believe every single man alive has only one life to get what they want from it. And … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 02:28 AM |
| 2 | If there is no obligations and nobody owes anyone anything. We should go fully, not picking and choosing. Men particularly, Need to simply be selfish and self serving, alot more.Being payed for work is different, because you're actually working. It does not take work to not be dangerous. The thing that makes productivity valuable is not that it takes work. It is valuable because it is desired. Peace is desired. And thus it is valuable even if it takes no effort. So both are for sale. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 02:21 AM |
| -3 | why cant you lust after average men?I can forget how to speak english and remain the same human. I can forget any skill I have and I would still be me. The same applies to all humans. Lose the skills, you did not become someone else. You are the same person just without those skills. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 02:19 AM |
| 2 | If there is no obligations and nobody owes anyone anything. We should go fully, not picking and choosing. Men particularly, Need to simply be selfish and self serving, alot more.So no man that has a mother/sisters can ever end up as one of the guys we are talking about? Are you sure? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 02:18 AM |
| -9 | why cant you lust after average men?But for all the men who just want a body, any body how is that hunanizing to the women? Because a human is a body. And being cared about for your body means being cared for the human you are. A body. The alternative is being cared about for what you have or what you do, which is not being care about as a human but as a tool. If she can be replaced with any other warm body and he doesn't like her personality, how is that validating to her? I didn't say it was validating. I said it was humanizing.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 02:17 AM |
| 6 | Independence is not as good as people make it out to beThat does not sound like dependency. Actual dependency means non functionality when you are lacking the thing/person you are dependent upon. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 02:13 AM |
| 3 | If there is no obligations and nobody owes anyone anything. We should go fully, not picking and choosing. Men particularly, Need to simply be selfish and self serving, alot more.Sure, and expecting pay in order to work makes me lazy. And expecting monogamy in order to be in a relationship makes me controlling. Nothing in life is free. And that includes restrain. That includes peace. The people that "don't need compensation" are already recieving it. They are living in a society that provides them with what they want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 02:12 AM |
| 2 | If there is no obligations and nobody owes anyone anything. We should go fully, not picking and choosing. Men particularly, Need to simply be selfish and self serving, alot more.It makes me nothing. It makes me whatever I become based on my surroundings. Water has no shape. It takes the shape of the container it is in and fills the gaps. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 02:07 AM |
| -5 | why cant you lust after average men?For sure. I included the electrical/chemical patterns within the body in the definition of what a human is. I just didn't include actions nor posessions/reputation/skills. Because you can lose all of those and the human remains the same identity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 02:05 AM |
| 0 | If there is no obligations and nobody owes anyone anything. We should go fully, not picking and choosing. Men particularly, Need to simply be selfish and self serving, alot more.You can't expect something in return for not being actively harmful. Yes I can. That is how having nukes works. You expect the rest of the world to care about what you say because you can end the world with a button. The same goes for men and the ability they have to just end society when they decide not to cooperate with it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 02:03 AM |
| 3 | Independence is not as good as people make it out to beIs there any difference betwen relying on someone and needing them? Using your definitions of course. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 02:01 AM |
| 2 | If there is no obligations and nobody owes anyone anything. We should go fully, not picking and choosing. Men particularly, Need to simply be selfish and self serving, alot more.Oh so you believe this men have no mother and no sisters? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 02:00 AM |
| -15 | why cant you lust after average men?A human is a body and the electrical/chemical patterns within it. To care about a body is to care about a human. Everything else is not part o what a human is. Everything else is part of what a human does or what a human has. You would remain the same human even if you change every single aspect of your behavior. You would remain the sae human even if you lose everything you have, including reputation and skills. You are what is left when everything else is lost or changes. The body and the elec… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 01:59 AM |
| 4 | Independence is not as good as people make it out to beI do want to agree with you but I am sure we have different definitionson what "a healthy amount of dependency on your partner" is. Please define the term. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 01:53 AM |
| 3 | If there is no obligations and nobody owes anyone anything. We should go fully, not picking and choosing. Men particularly, Need to simply be selfish and self serving, alot more.Oh so women are entitled to men acting to benefit them without getting anyting in return. Good to know where you stand. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 01:51 AM |
| 0 | If there is no obligations and nobody owes anyone anything. We should go fully, not picking and choosing. Men particularly, Need to simply be selfish and self serving, alot more.As long as they remain a minority, you are correct. If they are no longer a minority then chances are you can't win against them. And the way to keep them a minority is for them to get what they want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 01:49 AM |
| 4 | If there is no obligations and nobody owes anyone anything. We should go fully, not picking and choosing. Men particularly, Need to simply be selfish and self serving, alot more.I hope you are correct. I don't know if I would place a bet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 01:47 AM |
| 1 | If there is no obligations and nobody owes anyone anything. We should go fully, not picking and choosing. Men particularly, Need to simply be selfish and self serving, alot more.Ok. Next question. Are women entitled to men defending them against those dangerous extremists? Or are men free to just decide to sit that one out and let chips fall where they may? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 01:47 AM |
| 3 | If there is no obligations and nobody owes anyone anything. We should go fully, not picking and choosing. Men particularly, Need to simply be selfish and self serving, alot more.I don't want to reproduce. I don't want to curse a child with having me as a father. And of course this kind of men are a minority. For now. As long as they are a minority there is no risk. When they are a majority well there are plenty of countries in which women have no rights to see how that works out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 01:45 AM |
| 1 | If there is no obligations and nobody owes anyone anything. We should go fully, not picking and choosing. Men particularly, Need to simply be selfish and self serving, alot more.Or we let those voters die out. They vote once.. ok? And we refuse to fuck them and have their kids. The people realize how shit it is to have those people vote and so they vote the extreme other way. That only works if those men are a minority. Which is the best strategy by the way. Keep fucking enough men so the ones that don't get what they want out of life remain a minority. Yall really wanna force women to fuck you so badly you will take away our rights to do so. You will rape and kill and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 01:43 AM |
| 4 | If there is no obligations and nobody owes anyone anything. We should go fully, not picking and choosing. Men particularly, Need to simply be selfish and self serving, alot more.Didn’t you say that you would have sex with strange men if it were the only way to keep them from committing suicide? Care to bring up the context as well? "If it was proven beyond the shadow of a doubt that the direct cause for that suicide is the lack of male attention/sex" How does that square with not intervening if you see a child or elderly person being harmed on the street? Beyond a shadow of a doubt there are other people that should be responsible for the child and the elderly. Thought … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/26 01:40 AM |
| 1 | If there is no obligations and nobody owes anyone anything. We should go fully, not picking and choosing. Men particularly, Need to simply be selfish and self serving, alot more.Well that is the thing with democracy. Every single voter gets the same say and you will either convince the extremists by giving them enough of what they want so they vote your way or you make sure that the conditions are good enough so most people don't end up as extremists. And this is not a matter of empathy. It is a matter of keeping enough men on your side to make what you think is right and wrong something that can be enforced. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 11:21 PM |
| 3 | If there is no obligations and nobody owes anyone anything. We should go fully, not picking and choosing. Men particularly, Need to simply be selfish and self serving, alot more.See the Islamic world. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 10:33 PM |
| 2 | If there is no obligations and nobody owes anyone anything. We should go fully, not picking and choosing. Men particularly, Need to simply be selfish and self serving, alot more.but not enough men on the side of evil to defeat good men and women See the Islamic world. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 10:33 PM |
| -2 | If there is no obligations and nobody owes anyone anything. We should go fully, not picking and choosing. Men particularly, Need to simply be selfish and self serving, alot more.Great question. I care about neither. Children have their parents. Elderly people have their savings relationships they bothered to build for when they are no longer able to work. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 10:11 PM |
| 2 | If there is no obligations and nobody owes anyone anything. We should go fully, not picking and choosing. Men particularly, Need to simply be selfish and self serving, alot more.Oh. So they get beaten by but remain able to have their own country culture and laws? Such a bad fate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 10:02 PM |
| 1 | If there is no obligations and nobody owes anyone anything. We should go fully, not picking and choosing. Men particularly, Need to simply be selfish and self serving, alot more.In the event it did happen, people would no longer be legally entitled to physical safety. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 10:01 PM |
| 6 | If there is no obligations and nobody owes anyone anything. We should go fully, not picking and choosing. Men particularly, Need to simply be selfish and self serving, alot more.And countries/societies like that get stomped by ones that have rule of law and respect for others. Because oppressive or chaotic societies are not efficient They continue to exist so they are not stomped. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 09:30 PM |
| 3 | If there is no obligations and nobody owes anyone anything. We should go fully, not picking and choosing. Men particularly, Need to simply be selfish and self serving, alot more.Sure. I give you that. Now if that group keeps growing and they don't care if they are called toddlers they are still a problem that needs addressing. Or you can ignore them until the group becomes impossible to ignore. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 09:18 PM |
| 2 | If there is no obligations and nobody owes anyone anything. We should go fully, not picking and choosing. Men particularly, Need to simply be selfish and self serving, alot more.Does using your freedom and vote to decide which things to support and which things to ignore count as a threat? Because if that is the case then might as well throw democracy and freedom out the window. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 09:16 PM |
| 2 | If there is no obligations and nobody owes anyone anything. We should go fully, not picking and choosing. Men particularly, Need to simply be selfish and self serving, alot more.The Islamic world continues to exist. Just saying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 09:00 PM |
| 3 | If there is no obligations and nobody owes anyone anything. We should go fully, not picking and choosing. Men particularly, Need to simply be selfish and self serving, alot more.Remember alcohol prohibition? Men are well able to ignore existing laws when they don't want to follow them and when enough men decide to do it there is nothing useful to be done against them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 08:55 PM |
| 5 | If there is no obligations and nobody owes anyone anything. We should go fully, not picking and choosing. Men particularly, Need to simply be selfish and self serving, alot more.It may be fragile. I don't care. My support for any cause is for sale. If I get paid I support equality and shit. If I don't then I will support the opposite side. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 08:40 PM |
| -1 | women choosing terrible men/ choices with full information is one of the oldest documented patterns in human history.Blaming everyone but yourself is a child like response to avoid responsibility for your bad actions. And that was what Adam did in that story. Act like a kid. And when it comes to understanding good and evil he was a kid. He was found soon after coming to understand that he did wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 08:23 PM |
| 5 | If there is no obligations and nobody owes anyone anything. We should go fully, not picking and choosing. Men particularly, Need to simply be selfish and self serving, alot more.No. I will use voting and indifference. I will vote for extremists and don't move a finger when violence happens. A small number of violent men can do a lot when a majority of men just don't want to stop them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 08:21 PM |
| -2 | women choosing terrible men/ choices with full information is one of the oldest documented patterns in human history.Without the understanding of good and evil how can someone even understand that disobeying god is wrong? If anything free will without the understanding of good and evil can only end in evil because the free entity does not know the difference. They will eventually do evil. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 08:16 PM |
| 1 | women choosing terrible men/ choices with full information is one of the oldest documented patterns in human history.I mean... The entire point of the story is that it is supposed to be man's first encounter with the understanding of good and evil. Blaming everyone else for the bad you committed is a childish response and Adam could not have responded in any other way. When it came to dealing with good and evil he was quite literally at a child's level. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 08:14 PM |
| 3 | If there is no obligations and nobody owes anyone anything. We should go fully, not picking and choosing. Men particularly, Need to simply be selfish and self serving, alot more.When in history was a good idea to ignore a group of men that are angry and increasing in number? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 08:10 PM |
| 7 | If there is no obligations and nobody owes anyone anything. We should go fully, not picking and choosing. Men particularly, Need to simply be selfish and self serving, alot more.If men ignored laws during alcohol prohibition because they didn't feel like stop drinking then why is it so hard to believe that they could apply the same to other laws? Laws and rights were never about morality. They are about having enough men with guns willing to defend whatever is considered a right and to punish whatever is considered a crime. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 08:00 PM |
| 4 | If there is no obligations and nobody owes anyone anything. We should go fully, not picking and choosing. Men particularly, Need to simply be selfish and self serving, alot more.Good to know the risks. Now remember that legality and morality take a backseat to reality. Without enough men willing to enforce rights (put offenders in jail and scaring would be offenders) those rights don't exist and it doesn't matter if they are written into law. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 07:58 PM |
| 5 | If there is no obligations and nobody owes anyone anything. We should go fully, not picking and choosing. Men particularly, Need to simply be selfish and self serving, alot more.Morality takes a back seat to reality. Without enough men willing and able to enforce rights (putting offenders in jail and scaring would be offenders) those rights don't exist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 07:56 PM |
| 3 | If there is no obligations and nobody owes anyone anything. We should go fully, not picking and choosing. Men particularly, Need to simply be selfish and self serving, alot more.Of course. Ignoring someone that has those beliefs is the way you allow them to increase in numbers but of course you are entitled to ignore the incoming trouble until it is too big to be ignored. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 07:49 PM |
| 4 | If there is no obligations and nobody owes anyone anything. We should go fully, not picking and choosing. Men particularly, Need to simply be selfish and self serving, alot more.As a society, we've agreed that we owe it to each other to not assault or murder each other. That's why our elected leaders have passed laws prohibiting those activities. Everyone does owe everyone their physical safety. And what if a significant percentage of the population no longer buys into this. Or at least they don't buy in for free. Sure if they are a small percentage of the population you might be able to send them to jail. But if enough men decide that if they are not getting what they … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 07:48 PM |
| 6 | If there is no obligations and nobody owes anyone anything. We should go fully, not picking and choosing. Men particularly, Need to simply be selfish and self serving, alot more.Ok. So if men are free to do so. Then the argument made by OP makes more sense. He is arguing that men should use that freedom to put a price on their support for systemic equality. Either they get payed the price and they support equality or they don't get payed the price and they do not support it. If enough men don't get paid and stop supporting systemic equality then well... It goes the way of the dinosaurs. Which can be stopped by paying the price. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 07:45 PM |
| 2 | If there is no obligations and nobody owes anyone anything. We should go fully, not picking and choosing. Men particularly, Need to simply be selfish and self serving, alot more.Just for fun let's say that is the argument. Are women entitled to men not being as dangerous as extremists say they are? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 07:42 PM |
| 2 | If there is no obligations and nobody owes anyone anything. We should go fully, not picking and choosing. Men particularly, Need to simply be selfish and self serving, alot more.Just to know your perspective. Are women entitled to an individual man's support for systemic equality? Or is a man free to decide if he supports systemic equality or doesn't? If he is free to support or oppose systemic equality then he is also free to decide under which circumstances he will support systemic equality. And such a circumstance may be "I am getting relationships/sex" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 07:41 PM |
| 1 | Does anyone care that dating is better now for women?Can you elaborate? The mental state of people alters how they spend their money. People don't vote or shoot schools based on their dating lives. People use their dating lives as rationalisations for their pre-seated biases and/or inclinations that inform their choice of vote or to shoot up a school. Bold to believe that. Willing to bet lives and the political future of your country on you being right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 05:42 PM |
| 1 | Does anyone care that dating is better now for women?All three statements are consistent with what society believes. All three statements are presented without an argument backing them up. That was the point. In a debate, a statement without an argument backing it up tends to be insufficient. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 05:18 PM |
| 2 | Does anyone care that dating is better now for women?This one Both statement have the same number of arguments backing them up as yours. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 03:58 PM |
| 2 | Women’s problem is overestimating the amount of common sense men have.But why would you want someone who’s OK with people like that? Unless its clear its a trauma response, WHY? Yes. Because it is better than being an incel. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 03:32 PM |
| 2 | Red Pill men: Why do you want to settle down with women if they're so bad?What does the quantity of people she is attracted to have to do with the ability to favor both stability and desire? When you reduce your pool you reduce the chances of finding someone that brings what you want. Are you making a case that because of instability, the man has sexual success? Or is there a different factor that coexists (not competes) with stability/instability in the man that has an effect on sexual or dating success? Any. Both. Maybe there is a link between that different factor … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 03:17 PM |
| 5 | Red Pill men: Why do you want to settle down with women if they're so bad?It means that there is no competition in men. Men will be attracted to the woman that brings stability. Women in the other hand are not attracted to almost all men in the way men are attracted to almost all women. That means it is unlikely that a man will bring both attraction and stability. Chances are a man will bring only one of those to the table. Let alone the fact that unstable men have way more success in the dating world so we can argue that stability is less attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 02:47 PM |
| 4 | Red Pill men: Why do you want to settle down with women if they're so bad?Of course it is only for the woman. Men want to fuck anyone that is an adult human female that is alive. And some freaks can ignore some of the items in that list. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 02:43 PM |
| 8 | Does anyone care that dating is better now for women?It isn't. Being homeless signficantly reduces one's quality of life and puts then in the face of much more harm than if they were housed. Oh so you can live is just that life is significantly worse? Same for dating/not dating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 02:42 PM |
| 5 | Does anyone care that dating is better now for women?No. It wasn't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 02:41 PM |
| 3 | Does anyone care that dating is better now for women?material: relating to physical objects or money rather than emotions or the spiritual world A useful definition. An issue defined as material can be important/not important based on arguments provided. Immaterial: not important; not likely to make a difference Bad definition. By including dating inside that definition you are, by definition saying it does not matter/makes no difference. An issue that is defined as immaterial would become by definition irrelevant with no need of arguing why it is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 02:41 PM |
| 5 | Does anyone care that dating is better now for women?Uncalled for. I am presenting counter arguments in a polite and appropriate manner without any name calling and trying to not use any fallacy. I am debating in good faith and without any trick nor tantrum that would make that comparison make sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 02:30 PM |
| 6 | Red Pill men: Why do you want to settle down with women if they're so bad?I have to admit that reading this elicits nothing but horror Thank you. but I read more about your condition, and you quite literally cannot help it, and thus I commend you for taking your partner into such consideration in that you told her exactly what was happening. Thank you and this time is less of a dark humor kind of joke. I do care about consent so I refuse to enter into a relationship with someone that is not fully informed about what they would be getting into. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 02:28 PM |
| 10 | Does anyone care that dating is better now for women?Owning a home is a largely optional experience. Not needed to live. Actually having electricity is a largely optional experience considering that most of humanity lived full lives without it during the majority of our existence as a species. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 02:26 PM |
| 3 | Does anyone care that dating is better now for women?Starvation and slavery are significant material problems, so wealth inequality and racial inequality are valid concerns. The problems that arise from dating are insignificant and immaterial, so it is not a valid concern. Provide a definition for "material" and "immaterial" problems so I can engage honestly and properly with the argument. "Insignificant" is what we are discussing so that is just a presumption fallacy. Begging the question. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 02:22 PM |
| 4 | Does anyone care that dating is better now for women?You provide an argument, I address that argument. That is how debating works. If you want to argue that those can't be equated then you must provide an argument that shows that they can't be equated. All you did was saying "money is needed to live while having a partner is not" Completely changing the subject, that being "wealth equality/inequality" not money. When I bring the conversation back to that, your argument falls apart because wealth equality is not required to live. Just as having a p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 02:19 PM |
| 5 | Does anyone care that dating is better now for women?Correct. Present arguments and then we can address them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 02:15 PM |
| 9 | Does anyone care that dating is better now for women?That was not the argument. You are moving the goalpost. The point is that wealth equality is not needed to live. In the same way that having a partner is not needed to live. I can concede that reducing wealth inequality will improve the life of those that have less money... Just as having a partner would improve the life of those that have no partner... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 02:11 PM |
| 6 | Does anyone care that dating is better now for women?You need some money to live. Wealth inequality does not make a man unable to live, it does make that man unable to become as rich as the wealthiest are. So you don't need wealth equality to live. In those aspects both wealth equality and a partner are not needed to live. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 02:08 PM |
| 7 | Red Pill men: Why do you want to settle down with women if they're so bad?That was the question. Would that woman actually desire that man or is she making a sensible decision that puts other qualities above how desireable that man is? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 02:07 PM |
| 6 | Does anyone care that dating is better now for women?Ok. So they are not equivalent then. Why? What makes one issue a valid concern and not the other? Come on. The argument is just there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 02:03 PM |
| 6 | Does anyone care that dating is better now for women?Go on. You are quite close to providing an argument. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 02:00 PM |
| 4 | Does anyone care that dating is better now for women?My turn. Wealth inequality is not and has never been a valid concern. Ratial inequality is not and has never been a valid concern. Both statement have the same number of arguments backing them up as yours. I am open to discuss why it is not a valid concern but the statement without the argument is not enough. Edit: auto correct | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 01:56 PM |
| 2 | Red Pill men: Why do you want to settle down with women if they're so bad?Does your partner know that she’s only there so that you don’t kys? She knows. She deserves to make fully informed decisions. Altering your behavior and mannerisms, how? The way I speak and address issues. I am not considerate by nature. I must choose to be that way. I treat most issues without any passion nor care. I do need to be considerate with issues that my partner feel strongly about. The ways in which I decide to express affection must also change to fit the way she receives it. Contrary… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 01:15 PM |
| 4 | Red Pill men: Why do you want to settle down with women if they're so bad?To be fair those are quite good moments. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 01:01 PM |
| 3 | Red Pill men: Why do you want to settle down with women if they're so bad?What is it you want out of it? Monogamy. Long term stability. Romantic displays of affection. Shared time. Sex. In that order. All required. If all present I no longer want to kiss a moving train. How do you want it to look? As long as those elements are there I don't care. Everything else is up for negotiation. Why is the woman there? Because her life is better in a relationship with me compared to how her life would be outside a relationship with me. What’s her purpose? She is a human and has … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 01:00 PM |
| 4 | Red Pill men: Why do you want to settle down with women if they're so bad?Why would a woman want to be with someone who sees them as less than? Less than what? Less than who? I treat and see everyone as equal. Equality also applies when you see everyone and everything as a tool. To answer the question. She might want to be with someone like that if every other option in her life is worse. As I said, incentive structures. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 12:09 PM |
| 1 | Would you ever let men penetrate you for money?Everyone has a price. So the answer is yes and the price would change depending on the circumstances and details of the deal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 09:39 AM |
| 4 | Red Pill men: Why do you want to settle down with women if they're so bad?Because when I am outside a long term relationship I feel like taking a bath with a working toaster. Also, women are not bad per se. They are reacting to the incentive structure they are in. Change the incentive structure, change the behavior. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 09:38 AM |
| -1 | Loyalty is useless alone.But men especially need to be more than a loyal dog. This sentence is the important one. Men need more than being loyal. A woman that is loyal is more likely than not, enough and does not need more. Maybe because men value loyalty enough to not need more than that. Maybe because their standards are so easy to meet that when a woman brings loyalty to the table she is overqualified. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/26 03:59 PM |
| 3 | Men will accidentally push anti-male propagandaMen want to survive above all else. Like it or not. Not true. Living without a chance to get what you want in life gives men a reason to risk life in an attempt to get it. The power of money doesn't stem from giving men what they want, it stems from giving women what they want. Please elaborate. But honestly the level of your domestication really shows when we talk about rich people and you immediately think of money. More powerful men can hoard away your resources, it doesn't have to be green a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 05:31 PM |
| 2 | Men will accidentally push anti-male propagandaThis does not answer the question. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 05:29 PM |
| 2 | Men will accidentally push anti-male propagandaThere is a chance of winning. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 05:27 PM |
| 5 | Men will accidentally push anti-male propagandaRich people have power because money can be used to get what people want. If money does not give men what they want (women, relationship, sex, children) because women decided to just...not. For whatever reason. Then rich people have no power. Their money is no longer something men want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 05:06 PM |
| 0 | Men who are successful, high earners, or providers— I have a debatable questionIf you provide a great life for your girlfriend, fiancée, or wife, and you feel that you've worked hard and earned the lifestyle you have, do you think that gives you the right to occasionally sleep with other women? It does not give me the right. It gives me leverage to use to obtain whatever I want to get in the relationship. Or use that as a condition to be with them if certain circumstances occur? Anyone has the right to apply conditions. Example: she has a kid with someone else, or she has … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 04:45 PM |
| 5 | Men will accidentally push anti-male propagandaMen can win a contest of violence against other men. The loser gets as many rights as the winner allows. That is just what happens. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 04:40 PM |
| 2 | Men will accidentally push anti-male propagandaMen have had no problem oppressing each other and taking away each others rights Obviously. Men can win a fight against other men so the loser gets no rights. Or as many rights as the winner allows them to have. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 04:39 PM |
| 3 | Men will accidentally push anti-male propagandaSo you know a lot of historical societies in which women were able to enforce women's rights without the help of men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 04:38 PM |
| 2 | Men will accidentally push anti-male propagandaBut what if she disagrees with your analysis and would prefer the bear because it won't plot and scheme to force her into sexual servitude? She is free to be wrong. Ultimately, if you're going to fuel a negative view of men, can you fault women for disliking or hating men based upon your view of men? I can't blame someone for their feelings. Feelings are something you don't control. Feelings are the stupid part of people. I can blame them for deciding to act on feelings over rationality though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 03:49 PM |
| 4 | Men will accidentally push anti-male propagandaFair. How can you fault a woman for deciding she wants nothing to do with men for believing what you say about them? Because a bear wants nothing from women so there is no negotiating available. If the bear wants you dead then you are dead. Men want something from women so there is a negotiation to be had. Both sides can trade. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 03:39 PM |
| 5 | Men will accidentally push anti-male propagandaThere is no need to turn to violence. It is enough to just stop helping women in all circumstances. No help through the state. No defending against any threat. Full social ostracism. If women want anything from men they can get it by giving men what they want. That is enough. Women can only get acceptable lives because they get help from men through the state. Remove men willingness to help women unless they get what they want out of the deal and the problem solves itself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 03:35 PM |
| 2 | Men will accidentally push anti-male propagandaThat means they are still a minority. That is fine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 03:32 PM |
| 2 | Men will accidentally push anti-male propagandaEither society gives men what they want or (when the disappointed are numerous enough) they will bend society so they get what they want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 03:19 PM |
| 2 | Men will accidentally push anti-male propagandaBoth parties can be at odds or they can align their self interests. If they can't get their self interests aligned then just take a look at history. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 02:54 PM |
| 0 | Men will accidentally push anti-male propagandaSo why should a man support a society that does not give him what he wants? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 02:34 PM |
| 4 | Men will accidentally push anti-male propagandaYou may be right but unless they believe they have a realistic chance it doesn't matter. Not only it has to be true but they have to believe it is true. Maybe the latter is enough if the former is false. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 02:30 PM |
| 6 | Men will accidentally push anti-male propaganda“yeah men are cray and violent and sexually impulsive will spiral into societal fuckshit without access to a female” Not crazy. Not impulsive. Though it could be. Knowing that one has one single life to live there is absolutely no reason to accept a society that you truly came to believe gives you no viable path to live your life in a manner you find worth living. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 02:29 PM |
| 2 | Men will accidentally push anti-male propagandaAccidentally? It was on purpose. Also. Anti male propaganda? It was not anti male at all. It was a basic analysis of reality. Society exists because most men believe said society gives them a realistic chance to get what they want (women, a relationship, sex, children) If enough men don't believe society gives them that chance then they will consider that society an enemy and act accordingly. You can't expect someone to just give up on getting what they want from life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 01:57 PM |
| 1 | Why should women care that men don't have partners?thats crazy, giving human rights doesnt mean you have the right ti rpe women now I agree women literally fought to get away from mne like you. we dont want you Ok. Now do you mind answering the question? Why support the interests of a group that does not care about your interests? It is a losing strategy. Women do want something from men. Women want men to enforce the rights of women. You want men to find the ones that infringe upon those rights. Capture them. Throw them in jail. Put them on tri… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 01:49 PM |
| 1 | Why should women care that men don't have partners?So... Do you believe you can have that force able, willing and numerous enough to defend women's rights against anyone that wants to infringe them without the help of any man? No one wins but a few men and it is mind blowing men don’t want to win enough that they would prefer women hurt. Imagine how bad should a man have it to consider that letting society collapse gives him a better chance to get what he wants from life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 03:15 AM |
| 1 | Why should women care that men don't have partners?Trapping someone by using their gratitude is diabolical. A great strategy if you can pull it off. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 03:12 AM |
| 1 | Why should women care that men don't have partners?Serial killers have women interested in them. So not being a shitbag is not a requirement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 03:11 AM |
| 1 | Why should women care that men don't have partners?I see your point and I take it. I was blinded by putting myself in the position of the one recieving the offer. I would have picked the good option anyways and the way the offer is presented would have changed nothing. But you are correct. Most people are not like me and would care about those details to the point of not reacting in the same way to each one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 10:24 PM |
| 0 | Why should women care that men don't have partners?Voting for them worked? Because seems that they used those rights and freedoms to leave those men alone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 10:21 PM |
| 1 | Why should women care that men don't have partners?Convincing. Eloquent. Just kidding. Please elaborate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 09:57 PM |
| 1 | Why should women care that men don't have partners?Ok. I see your point and I see why I failed to recognize it. You care about the way you get to the result and who is the one doing the damage/improvement. I don't really care about it. I only saw a decision between good and bad and all the other details are not relevant. The end result would be either good or bad. I can see that if you care about how you get to good/bad and who is the one doing the good/bad in either scenario then the two scenarios are not the same. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 09:57 PM |
| 1 | Why should women care that men don't have partners?“I’m offering you to date me and if you don’t, I’ll rxpe you or harm you or take away your ability to be in this shelter.” The risk of rape and harm was there. Just not coming from me. The basic analysis was the same. "Date me or live in a horrible way until you die." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 09:48 PM |
| 1 | Why should women care that men don't have partners?If women need to cow to men..it makes more sense for us to cow to the most powerful ones and offer them 10 side pieces then offer an average dude 1 wife Yes. As long as the most powerful ones can win. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 09:46 PM |
| 1 | Why should women care that men don't have partners?By stripping welfare and social services, how exactly do you expect men to help women? In the same way it happened during the vast majority of history. The economy is failing us all collectively, regardless of race, gender or creed. Instead of stripping SNAP from single mothers, enforce the deadbeats to pay their child support. Why not both? Even in a nuclear family, most men cannot afford to buy a house, have a stay at home wife. Most people need a dual income, especially if you expect her to t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 09:45 PM |
| 1 | Why should women care that men don't have partners?Your solution is to just reference Medieval times, Arab countries and Africa— instead of referencing a recent generation in the west that had studied and proven results… ok. Not a solution. Examples on how to get the results in a different way. Abundance of resources and rights works. Lack of resources and rights works as well. You’re not making any points. You’re throwing pasta at the wall. I am showing alternatives. You said “get rid of welfare, make women have children. It’s fine if the 1% fu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 08:45 PM |
| 1 | Why should women care that men don't have partners?Pre-industrial revolution, people had more children because most of them fucking died and someone needed to survive to maintain the damn goats. Oh so there are other ways to make women have children's other than replicating your baby boomer scenario? Well that was my point. Why are you talking about Arab countries? Africa? Because that is another example of higher birth rates without replicating the baby boomer scenario you described. Do you vote in these areas too? Nope. If you believe and want… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 08:09 PM |
| 1 | Why should women care that men don't have partners?So then men are women’s enemy? Only when there is no alignment in men and women's self interest. Why would women care about people who are danferous and threatening to them? It doesn’t make sense A reason comes to mind. Because the consequences of not caring are worse than the consequences of caring. If men are this dangerous why not round them up and put them in prison Because you need men to round them up and to keep them in prison. So then you have the same problem. Another group of men you n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 07:56 PM |
| 1 | Why should women care that men don't have partners?Right… right not an issue. Historically, when times are bad people stop fucking and having babies. Times are not bad. Technology makes this times objectively the best times. People on medieval Europe had it way worse and had more babies than the modern western world. You want incels to have wives and have kids? Probably review what led to the baby boomers: Or I can look at the societies that have a high birth rate today. Why not do that? family support, tax incentives and social welfare economic… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 07:53 PM |
| 0 | Why should women care that men don't have partners?Which part is hard to understand? I described everything needed to keep women's rights in the realm of reality instead of being just an idea. Do you believe that women can fulfill all of the roles needed to enforce women's rights without any man's help? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 07:30 PM |
| 0 | Why should women care that men don't have partners?Maybe I was not clear enough. In order for the enforcement of rights to be effective you need the following. A force able and willing to catch/kill enough of the people that want to infringe on said rights. If you are not going for straight up capital punishment with no trial then you need. A force able and willing to retain those people and keep them detained for as long as it is neededm A force able and willing to transport them to court/jail. You do need lawyers and politicians and judges but… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 07:22 PM |
| 1 | Why should women care that men don't have partners?Say republicans stay in power for the next 2 decades. Republicans are not extreme. They are just barely to the right of the democrats. For now at least. Wait until an actually extremist party gets wind. What do you believe they’re going to do to make the incels less alone? I don't know what they will do. I know what they can do. Remove all welfare. Let women convince men to help them instead of using the state to force men to help women. Truly. Because it’s currently, a machine to prop up the 1%… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 07:06 PM |
| 0 | Why should women care that men don't have partners?So can women defend and enforce their rights without men's help? I missed the point in which you answer that question. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 06:45 PM |
| 1 | Why should women care that men don't have partners?If the reason you don’t vote for extremists is because you occasionally have sex, you should probably take a deeper look at yourself but it sounds like you can barely stand to. I know myself quite well. Sounds like you’re a slight fracture away from becoming an extremist and your integrity should not rely on whether or not you, and you alone, benefit from. I don't define myself by the way I vote. I can vote one way and act the opposite way to the ideas of the party I vote for. My actions in day … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 06:42 PM |
| 0 | Why should women care that men don't have partners?Not gonna entertain authoritarians who want to take rights away from me or anyone else. I don't want to. I already got what I wanted. You already have my vote in favor of women's rights. You're essentially suggesting women should just accept that they're being held hostage and need to please their keepers. So can women defend and enforce their rights without men's help? Because if the answer is no (and look at the Arab world to see how it looks when men don't want to enforce and defend women's r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 06:32 PM |
| 1 | Why should women care that men don't have partners?So at the end of the day, you have yours and you’re going to continue to vote how you would anyway I said I don't vote for extremists because I have what I want. you’re just arguing that women should be sexually exploited regardless. No. I am arguing that women don't get to ask men to vote for women's interests and do it without giving them what they want. Tough sell there mate. Want to talk about a tough sell? Tell an incel hated and or ignored by women he should vote for things to stay the sam… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 06:29 PM |
| – | Past what age women are no longer attractive to you?Physically attractive? As long as she is fit enough to move. Unless she is unable to move due to accident or illness in which case I drop all fitness criteria. Attractive enough to be considered for a serious relationship. That is when it gets weird. What I want is her best as defined by her past. By her past actions in previous relationships. And I want that because women do want my best and would not be ok with me being myself instead of my best. That means that if she spent part of her 20s/ea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 06:21 PM |
| 1 | Why should women care that men don't have partners?I already have a partner so society already bought my vote. But I remember how it was before I got what I want and I don't plan to forget about the men that are still out of luck and results. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 06:14 PM |
| 0 | Why should women care that men don't have partners?As a society, we have agreed that there are. if enough men don't get what they want in life then maybe society no longer agrees. Yeah because no woman has ever defended someone's rights before, apparently Percentage of women in the military and police forces? Personally I don't think there's any value in "negotiating" with people who are trying to remove fundamental rights. They are an obstacle, not someone to compromise with. That is true only if you can win against them. Once they are numerous… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 06:13 PM |
| 2 | Why should women care that men don't have partners?And how do you intend to sell your vote to society? Out of curiosity, when you get to the drop box and cross out the running parties and scribble down “society”? Simple. I know what I want from society (a long time relationship with a woman). If I got one I vote for regular parties. Nothing extreme. If I don't have one at the moment of voting I will go for the most extreme alternative available. Like what the fuck are you even saying bro. No shit you’re going to continue to vote for the governme… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 06:11 PM |
| -1 | Why should women care that men don't have partners?There is no "fundamental rights everyone is supposed to have". The only rights that exist are the ones that are defended and enforced. By men. Maybe not all men but enough men. And when you mention "things they are not supposed to be entitled for" you are missing the point. Whether they are or not entitled to anything as long as they have something you want from men (maybe you want them to keep defending and enforcing rights maybe) then they can ask for whatever price they want and unless the pr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 06:07 PM |
| 1 | Why should women care that men don't have partners?I am not voting against women's rights nor anything similar because I am getting what I want from society. I am not the problem. The problem is the men that are not getting what they want. They have a reason to vote in weird ways. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 05:58 PM |
| 2 | Why should women care that men don't have partners?I rather sell my vote to society. If I get what I want I vote for society to continue the way it is/continue in the direction it is going. If I don't get what I want I vote against it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 05:57 PM |
| 0 | Why should women care that men don't have partners?Accept for once and for all that if you want things to change, YOU have to change. Daddy government isn't gonna do it for you nor can you force women to change for you. Done it. Got what I wanted. It does not change anything about what I said | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 05:55 PM |
| 1 | Why should women care that men don't have partners?But you are not entitled to men defending them. And you need those men defending them for those rights to be real instead of a fiction of law and philosophy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 05:54 PM |
| 0 | Why should women care that men don't have partners?I personally have no need to use the most perverted coercive “negotiation” one can conceive of. But I see nothing wrong with using what you have to negotiate. You have only one life to get what you want. Why waste it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 02:53 PM |
| 0 | Why should women care that men don't have partners?Ok you believe that negotiation means men are entitled. Women are not entitled when they expect to get what they want from men without giving men what they want? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 02:20 PM |
| – | Why should women care that men don't have partners?I am arguing for individuals to act on their own self interests | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 02:19 PM |
| 2 | Why should women care that men don't have partners?The aggregate will eventually end up as the base for a system | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 02:13 PM |
| – | Why should women care that men don't have partners?Thank you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 02:07 PM |
| 2 | Why should women care that men don't have partners?The aggregate of individual moralities | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 02:06 PM |
| 2 | Why should women care that men don't have partners?A fiction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 01:57 PM |
| 3 | Why should women care that men don't have partners?The aggregate of individual moralities being applied by individuals does. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 01:56 PM |
| – | Why should women care that men don't have partners?Entirely personal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 01:51 PM |
| 1 | Why should women care that men don't have partners?It becomes entitlement when you use negotiation? Why should women or anyone else get what they want from men without giving men what they want? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 01:50 PM |
| 1 | Why should women care that men don't have partners?I don't believe those impulses are entitlement. Those impulses are men using what they have to trade for what they want. They are entitled to nothing. They have something other people want (they can stop peace from existing or they can enforce peace) and they are selling that to the one that gives them what they want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 01:35 PM |
| 0 | Why should women care that men don't have partners?Have you tried it on an individual level? Offered it as an opening line to a potential date: I want to negotiate sex with you. In exchange I won't interfere with your right to hold property or vote. Did you have much success? Kinda. "Your life sucks, you are in a homeless shelter in South America and chances are you will never get a good life no matter how much you try. Sure you can improve some aspects of it. But chances are one day someone will kill you to steal from you and get high. I can ta… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 01:33 PM |
| – | Why should women care that men don't have partners?Never cared but gave women rights and freedom out of how much they did not care? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 01:31 PM |
| 2 | Why should women care that men don't have partners?Ok. Let's see if the current generation of men that don't support women's interest are convinced by such methods | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 01:30 PM |
| 0 | Why should women care that men don't have partners?Sounds like you agree. Males are more willing to shoot females who aren’t doing what he wants than females are willing to shoot males who aren’t doing what she wants. Sure. I just consider that willingness is part of the ability to do something. Being unable for lack of will yields the same result than being unable due to lack of ability | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 01:28 PM |
| 4 | Why should women care that men don't have partners?So you are changing the definition. Sexist is not the same as misogynist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 01:05 PM |
| – | Why should women care that men don't have partners?Oh so women convinced them to give them rights. So giving men a reason to act in the interest of women works. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 01:04 PM |
| – | Why should women care that men don't have partners?Correlation not causal link. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 01:03 PM |
| 1 | Would you change your views and behaviour?Fair. How does this position explain the existence of volunteers and men that stay out of their own volition? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 01:02 PM |
| 3 | Why should women care that men don't have partners?Just say you don’t believe in human rights lmao I don't. Rights exist only as long as there is enforcement. You don’t have to pretend like as if a woman had sex with you, you would suddenly change your vote. I do change my vote depending on what I get from society. If you gave a shit about human rights on your own, you wouldn’t be selling your right to fucking vote to begin with. I don't. You want to talk about democracy, yet auction off your vote? M’kay. That is how voting works. Convince peopl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 01:01 PM |
| – | Why should women care that men don't have partners?How is this relevant? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 12:58 PM |
| 1 | Why should women care that men don't have partners?Willingness to do something is part of the ability to do it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 12:58 PM |
| 6 | Why should women care that men don't have partners?Already had this discussion with him. He believes the only reason women don’t use guns as much as men is because women are physically weaker, so they aren’t as capable as men of pulling a trigger. To be fair I admitted in that discussion that I must revisit my position and I am still doing it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 12:57 PM |
| 3 | Why should women care that men don't have partners?Nah. Don't change the meaning to suit your argument | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 12:33 PM |
| 4 | Why should women care that men don't have partners?Misogyny requires hate. I don't hate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 11:52 AM |
| 1 | Why should women care that men don't have partners?It’s not a “negotiation” if you’re saying “hey fuck me or I will strip your rights away” — that’s the dumbest fucking argument I’ve ever heard. That’s coercion at minimum, which is rape. Negotiation implies both parties consent. Please pick up a dictionary. In a democracy people are free to vote for any party and that party between the boundaries of the law can change all laws, constitution included. Saying "if you want me to vote the way you want give me what I want" is a negotiation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 11:50 AM |
| – | Why should women care that men don't have partners?Men’s threats to women tend to involve institutional disenfranchisement, violence, or sexual assault. All things that egregiously ignore consent and violate the other person. Yes. Because men if they want to, can follow up on that threat. Women’s threats to men involve leaving men the hell alone lol. Not violating his agency, autonomy, nor rights. Not doing a single non-consensual thing to him. Yes. Because women, if they want to, can follow up on that threat. If women could make a credible thre… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 11:49 AM |
| 4 | Why should women care that men don't have partners?It is misogyny mate, it’s not about hate, it’s about believing males are superior to females. I am treating them as equals negotiating for what they want. Women are only here for men to use etc Never said anything about the reason why women are here. and you’ve highlighted it against by claiming a women not wanting to have sex with a man is somehow a threat to him It is a threat. A threat of living a life that is not worth living. And what exactly is the trade here? Why can’t women just live the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 11:32 AM |
| – | Why should women care that men don't have partners?I'm sorry, this whole thing is about how men are lonely and need women. And now you say that men slave for women... and you mean marriage - the thing that supposed to actually make men less lonely? Exactly. They slave away to not be lonely/incels. Do you see something weird here? No. Pointing out how men are willing to slave away. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 11:29 AM |
| – | Why should women care that men don't have partners?So... If men have issues with women (no relationship nor sex) they don't care about women's issues and become a problem? That is the reason to care about men not getting any. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 11:26 AM |
| – | Why should women care that men don't have partners?that means you admit that it's not chicken and egg situation Fair. First women stopped giving men what they wanted and then men stopped caring. they did it under enormous pressure. Enormous pressure from...? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 11:25 AM |
| – | Why should women care that men don't have partners?They threaten men with no sex and leaving then alone? Yes. That is a threat. That is not a life worth living. Are you serious? Yes. Are women just supposed to be here for men to allow them to live so men can rape them? No. This is a negotiation. You don't have to accept the trade. (Thanks for the blatant misogyny here btw. Guys deny it all the time but your quite happy to admit this is how they wish it was) I am saying this with no hate. So it is not misogyny. Sexist maybe. Not misogyny. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 11:23 AM |
| – | Why should women care that men don't have partners?Just one example. Marriage. Men enter into it to not lose their relationship (access to sex) and by doing so they accept that half of everything they earn is no longer theirs. Maybe more than half. The day she decides to leave he loses half of everything he worked for (or more). They accept it. They accept to slave for half of their working hours for no earning (because what they earn is not theirs to keep) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 11:21 AM |
| – | Why should women care that men don't have partners?Precisely. And they were convinced to give women's rights and freedom. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 11:16 AM |
| – | Why should women care that men don't have partners?Are you living under Sharia law? If the answer is "no" then men care enough about women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 11:15 AM |
| – | Why should women care that men don't have partners?The answer to your question would be " for the same reason I should care about the list of issues mentioned " | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 11:11 AM |
| – | Why should women care that men don't have partners?Women aren’t threatening mens basic human rights because they can’t control them, so no, women are not the selfish ones here Because they can't follow on this threat. They threat men with loneliness and inceldom. A threat they can follow on. That is the threat. And it works. Because men want relationships and sex. And no, it’s not a negotiation, women don’t want anything from men, they want to live their own lives without being discriminated against So you want men to allow you to live such live… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 11:10 AM |
| – | Why should women care that men don't have partners?Did you seriously miss the point? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 11:01 AM |
| – | Why should women care that men don't have partners?And thus allowing the number of men that remain outside relationships to increase, increases the number of men that don't care about women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 11:00 AM |
| – | Why should women care that men don't have partners?No political party or movement cares about anything other than getting into power and staying in power. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 10:57 AM |
| – | Why should women care that men don't have partners?Because It shows the outright audacity and selfishness of modern men. Or the audacity and selfishness of modern women that want support from men without showing support for them. Both sides are selfish. If either side wants something from the other they will have to trade. Women expected to solve mens problems or men will use scrap whatever they have to take away woman’s basic human rights. That is the negotiation. Women want something from men, men want something from women. If a trade does not… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 10:56 AM |
| – | Why should women care that men don't have partners?It is comparable. Men do end up slaving away in order to get sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 10:38 AM |
| – | Why should women care that men don't have partners?Because those men probably had women they actually cared about, had some morality and principles, and they wanted women in their life be happy. So men can vote for women's interests instead of their own. That is enough. Now that we established that it is a possibility that means that it is better to care about men's issues in an effort to convince them to vote for your own interest instead of against it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 10:30 AM |
| – | Why should women care that men don't have partners?Chicken and egg situation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 10:20 AM |
| – | Why should women care that men don't have partners?How was giving women rights and freedom in men's self interests? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 10:19 AM |
| – | Why should women care that men don't have partners?Because men vote. Even if you don't give a single solitary duck about a demographic you would benefit if that demographic votes in a way that is aligned to your interests and you would suffer if they start voting against your interests. In a democracy that is the reason to care about any issue that affects any demographic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 10:08 AM |
| 1 | Why should women care that men don't have partners?Because men vote. Even if you don't give a single solitary duck about a demographic you would benefit if that demographic votes in a way that is aligned to your interests and you would suffer if they start voting against your interests. In a democracy that is the reason to care about any issue that affects any demographic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 10:07 AM |
| 1 | Would you change your views and behaviour?Of course men wouldn’t want help in reasonable ways which most women would actually agree to That was not the hypothetical scenario being discussed. The hypothetical scenario was one in which women could either let men die or go through an admittedly quite fucked up discomfort to save men. Because refusing to let people use your body is some awful thing Remember the war in Ukraine? Men are going through something comparable for the sake of women they don't know. When push comes to shove, men are… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 09:51 AM |
| 1 | Would you change your views and behaviour?I know now. And I will remember every single time women want anything from men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/26 09:37 AM |
| 1 | A date asks "what woman do you admire"Due to my condition I only have egoism to work with. To create a system of ethics based on that was a necessity for me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 11:45 PM |
| 4 | A date asks "what woman do you admire"Its your first date with a gal and she asks you , " what women do you admire". Would the question be offputting to you, would you be able to answer it? It would be a yellow flag. The answer would be Ayn Rand. The answer is truthful and I would get information out of the reaction. She's asks "what men do you admire"? Would the question be offputting to you, would you be able to answer it? It would be a yellow flag. I would ask why does she want to know. I would say Elon Musk. The answer could be … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 11:07 PM |
| 3 | If you have to perform niceness or play jester on a date, then you’re not actually desired.Correct. Without the incentive of not being an incel I would be glad being the social equivalent of a pet rock. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 05:58 PM |
| 1 | Would women still get married if they were legally mandated to frequently have sex with their husbands?They are relevant enough that you bring them up all the time as your evidence that women are all trash. Not as evidence that all women are trash. As evidence that serial killers get more women interested in them than boring non criminals. Youre being disingenuous to pretend you consider them irrelevant today. One thing is being statistically irrelevant as an example of your demographic. Another thing is being able to produce results even though you are not representative of the demographic at la… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 05:07 PM |
| 1 | Would women still get married if they were legally mandated to frequently have sex with their husbands?In other words, you would require rigid adherence to a minimum, but conveniently, you believe it is beyond the pale to have any limits beyond that. That is because your belief is self-serving, not designed around fairness or care. I don't believe it is beyond the pale to have any limits beyond that. I believe you can make those limits clear and explicit in the agreement. You didn’t really address the point I brought here. What specific duty do you believe a woman should owe a man if she murders … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 03:45 PM |
| 1 | Would you change your views and behaviour?So you propose in this thought experiment for a woman to service any comer and still have romantic relationships with them all? Or is that only required for one man? How can a romantic relationship actually form in this situation given the fact they are still humans with limits on energy, time, and ability to form romantic bonds? I don't propose anything. All I did was consider the base assumption provided by OP as true and see how women decide if they let men die or not. I don't really care abo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 03:37 PM |
| 1 | If you have to perform niceness or play jester on a date, then you’re not actually desired.Sounds about right. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 02:42 PM |
| 1 | Would you change your views and behaviour?Why would your scenario somehow only operate in the realm of immediate consequences? It doesn't have to. Why wouldn't it impact the societal or legal level? It could. And for that matter, why would women still have husbands? Not my monkey. They could answer that question. If any woman denying a man at any time means he is likely to die, then the wife would have to service any man. Not really. She could let the man die. What would be the point of a romantic relationship? To make a man not die. Bu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 02:38 PM |
| 1 | Is working for a living more traumatizing than being sexually assaulted?I suppose if you're just a lazy type of person. Or I prefer to be dependent on someone that loves me over being dependent on a boss/corporation/clients Personally I am a very independent woman. dependent on a boss/corporation/clients I like people. I like my career. I like my money. I like none of those. Never in my life have I yearned to be a housewife. I don't understand you but I can imagine how that could be possible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 02:30 PM |
| 2 | What has your actual lived experience/ challenges with dating been like?The way you put it across makes it seem very transactional (not against it btw cuz I do believe every relationship is somewhat transactional albeit to different extents). It is transactional. Every relationship is transactional. I don't even get to the first date unless I pay in time and effort to become attractive. Do the both of you genuinely love each other or do you and her both see it mostly as a form of transaction and fulfilment of duties? I believe the answer is both. When love falters d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 02:20 PM |
| 1 | Would women still get married if they were legally mandated to frequently have sex with their husbands?You are actually prevented from paying more than is asked Not unless the agreement explicitly forbids it. There are always conditions for a duty Not always. Some duties are reciprocal and we can argue there is a condition in the reciprocity. Some duties are not. But honestly, even then, there are women you would respect as dutiful— there are women who have been so loyal to their partners that they co-committed murders with them. Your ideal woman. For sure exceptions do exist but they are not num… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 02:00 PM |
| 1 | Would you change your views and behaviour?That scenario ends consensual sex forever. Not really. Women can say no and let the man die. As you did not change the essence of the woman only the man in your hypothetical, sex in that scenario is reliant upon the suffering of women without doing anything to prevent said suffering. In fact, it seems embedded in the very cure proposed Or let the man die. No suffering necessary from women. And as to the other matter, it is not an act of selflessness to be forced to be a resource for others. The … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 01:45 PM |
| 1 | Would you change your views and behaviour?Because that is how humans are? Disgusting. I know. As to your hypothetical, why does only the taker's evaluation of the cost matter? Why does a taker get to decide it is only a "discomfort" when all the taker is doing is receiving? The taker dies if they do not take. Any other cost is discomfort compared to death. In this hypotheticar scenario at least. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 07:31 AM |
| 0 | Would you change your views and behaviour?First, It relies on the false premise that the only way to save some man's life is by fucking them. Of course not. There are a multitude of other actions such as calling the authorities, calling family, or simply having a long deep discussion. The entire point of the hypothetical scenario is to put women in a situation in which the options are to have sex with men to save men's life or letting them die. Do you believe that if the scenario was properly worded to give those two options and only th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 07:29 AM |
| 1 | Would you change your views and behaviour?Fair enough. The scenario could have been better worded. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 07:24 AM |
| 1 | Would women still get married if they were legally mandated to frequently have sex with their husbands?If I agree to pay 2 then my duty is to pay 2. Nothing stops me from paying more. The party recieving the payment is not obligated to deny the extra unless the agreement says so. I am not bound by duty to pay only 2. This was unadressed by the way. But if by “not optional”, you mean people who actually totally fulfilled their pledges, there are tons. For the women who stay with their husbands “till death do us part”, staying was not “optional”. Interesting. Was there nothing the men could have do… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 07:23 AM |
| -1 | Would you change your views and behaviour?Men get what they give. In the west? Women's rights even to the detriment of their self interest. Do you believe that women in the west do give men rights even to the detriment of their self interest? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 07:18 AM |
| 1 | Would you change your views and behaviour?Then most people disgust me. Selfish enough to not even consider suffer discomfort in order to save a life in a hypothetical scenario. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 02:09 AM |
| 0 | Do you believe women should cater more to men/be less selective?I did say my take could be uneducated. It doesn't have to be ISIS, any culture that can outbreed the rest will do. And as a general rule, the more freedom women have the less kids they choose to have. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 01:57 AM |
| 1 | Do you believe women should cater more to men/be less selective?Muslims outbreed western culture and take over via democracy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 01:53 AM |
| 2 | Do you believe women should cater more to men/be less selective?Give me a choice taken and I can try to guess the consequence. Without a choice to begin with I have nothing to build upon | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 01:45 AM |
| 1 | Would you change your views and behaviour?I do see people, and myself, as a resource. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 01:44 AM |
| 3 | Do you believe women should cater more to men/be less selective?I don't know. Depends on the choices made. I can't see the future. I can only make an educated guess. Or an uneducated one. Makes no difference. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 01:34 AM |
| 13 | Do you believe women should cater more to men/be less selective?There is no such thing as a "should". Women "should" do whatever they believe is in their self interest. Do what you want and live with the consequences. Don't complain about them. You earned them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 01:31 AM |
| 1 | Would you change your views and behaviour?"If it was proven beyond the shadow of a doubt" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 01:30 AM |
| 0 | Would you change your views and behaviour?I adressed this in another comment. I can understand how it would be stupid to act to benefit others when the result of it would make you incapable of helping others in the future. First you need to keep yourself sane and healthy enough to endure until the next time you can help someone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 01:29 AM |
| 10 | What has your actual lived experience/ challenges with dating been like?Lets try to make a long story short enough to be read but with enough info to be somewhat useful. First thing: I met my partner 10+ years ago. I don't have problems with dating currently so I am going to speak about the times before. I was raised on platitudes. "There is someone out there for anyone" "Just be yourself" "Be a good man and eventually you will meet her" I had no reason to trust on my inexperienced eyes over the people that are supposed to care about me and my future. Obviously it d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 01:28 AM |
| 1 | Would women still get married if they were legally mandated to frequently have sex with their husbands?It also does not recognize all sorts of other agreements between two private parties acting in private. Precisely They do all the time. You just don’t recognize them as fulfilling a duty if they’re not shot to death anytime one fails. And you refuse to recognize any time any woman does ever fulfill her pledge— you systematically dismiss any and every duty a woman has ever fulfilled. It’s nothing but cherry picking. Ok. I will bite. Provide some examples then. Which duties towards their partners … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 01:05 AM |
| 1 | Would you change your views and behaviour?Yes. I still don't understand the question Why would being a woman be any different then your shadow of a doubt theory on saving lives via having sex with them? What does that mean? You are comparing "Being a woman" with a hypothetical scenario and asking why would those be different. Because one is "Being a woman" and the other one is a hypothetical scenario in which "it is proven beyond the shadow of a doubt that sexlessness and lack of female attention and validation is the root cause for the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/26 12:01 AM |
| 0 | What do you think about young men feeling abandoned and demonised by left?If it not in some way beneficial to them getting sex, everyone can rot Good to know someone gets it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 11:57 PM |
| 2 | What do you think about young men feeling abandoned and demonised by left?Women can persist for sure... see the islamic world. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 11:54 PM |
| 0 | Would you change your views and behaviour?And I can promise there are vanishingly few males who would give their asshole virginity to a mentally ill individual I can believe that. with severe mental illness? Lol that’s wild. And let’s say in this hypothetical how many times does a woman have to give up her body to save this man? Once? 10 times? Bc I some how doubt this mentally ill individual will be cured by one 3 minute fuck session. I don't know. It was not part of the scenario. If you are interested in expanding it then add details. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 11:45 PM |
| -1 | Would you change your views and behaviour?I am afraid I don't understand the question. Pleas re phrase. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 11:43 PM |
| 0 | Would you change your views and behaviour?That was the hypothetical scenario described by OP. If we are not buying into it then there is no reason to continue the discussion. Assuming that as a base was the point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 11:43 PM |
| -1 | Would you change your views and behaviour?A valid alternative for the hypothetical scenario. I doubt it would happen because no one, not even men, care about men killing themselves but still a valid alternative. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 11:41 PM |
| -1 | Would you change your views and behaviour?Still dodging the hypothetical scenario. Not that I disagree with your points, but all of them are ignoring the hypothetical scenario. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 10:10 PM |
| -3 | Would you change your views and behaviour?"without a shadow of a doubt" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 10:09 PM |
| 1 | Would you change your views and behaviour?If we aren’t interested in doing so to keep lonely men from hurting us, why would we do it to keep them from hurting themselves? Thank you for making it cristal clear. Honestly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 10:08 PM |
| -5 | Would you change your views and behaviour?Not moving the goalpost was already "without a shadow of a doubt" in OP. Also, in the same OP it says "It is the root of" not merely "significantly increases risk of death" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 10:04 PM |
| 2 | Would you change your views and behaviour?It says it’s the root cause but doesn’t say sex is the only solution. Fair enough. The scenario could be better worded. I give you this one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 09:45 PM |
| -5 | Would you change your views and behaviour?Beyond the shadow of a doubt. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 09:44 PM |
| -9 | Would you change your views and behaviour?Not the scenario described. The scenario described includes proving it beyond the shadow of a doubt. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 09:44 PM |
| -3 | Would you change your views and behaviour?Yes. Even if I don't like it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 09:10 PM |
| -4 | Would you change your views and behaviour?You are just dodging the hypothetical. It doesn't matter how it doesn't work. It was proven to not work without a shadow of a doubt. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 09:09 PM |
| -7 | Would you change your views and behaviour?I would do both if it was proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that doing those are the best and only way to save lives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 09:08 PM |
| -12 | Would you change your views and behaviour?How about volunteer to donate your asshole to some unattractive gay guys to make them feel better. Male here. Straight as well. If it was proven beyond the shadow of a doubt that doing so would save lives I would do it. It would be deeply immoral not to do it. And frankly I am quite appalled at the response women had to this scenario. I had an idea of how little they care about men compared to their own comfort but I didn't think the situation was this extreme. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 09:07 PM |
| 1 | Would you change your views and behaviour?Why does it need to be widely proven. Because that was the base of the hypothetical scenario described by OP | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 09:04 PM |
| -1 | Would you change your views and behaviour?Who said the only option was to fuck them? Why would that scenario instantly mean that the only option is for women to pity fuck sad men? It was proven beyond a shadow of a doubt inside this scenario. Why not invest research and support for men who are so codependent on sex, they will kill themselves without it. Because the solution was already found. Without a shadow of a doubt. How is that not seen as a bigger systemic issue for men? Because the solution was already found. Now it is in the han… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 09:03 PM |
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