Generalizations will be said. Exceptions will exist.
I am not saying that all degrees and forms of independency make any and all humans poor in LTRs. The kind of person that makes a poor LTR partner is the kind of person that defines himself/herself by his/her independency and/or requires it to stay sane.
The base state for any human is being dependent on others. That is the way we are born, that is the way we stay.
We may reduce our degree of dependency on others or build extense chains of intermediaries and complex relationships but at the end of the day few humans are really self suficient. Most humans are dependent on others. Some realize it, some don't. The latter ones are the dangerous for LTRs.
Even the people that get to be financially or otherwise "independent" are at risk of losing said independency. Those that define theselves by their independency just lose it and make the relationship unstable. Examples of this behaviors are the man that loses his job and gets into an existential crisis he can't get over or the woman that takes time off her work/career when pregnant/early on after childbirth and resents the situation and in the worst cases her family because she can't tolerate the idea of being dependent on others.
Also, lets not forget that age comes after all of us and when health issues come and wreck our bodies we will be dependent on others and there is no way to avoid that. Everyone will have to end up that way unless they rope before that point.
I must also add that the phenomenon I am describing is more prevalent in people that are middle class or find themselves above that socio economic status. People that are used to economic struggles tend to learn from childhood that dependency is the rule, not the exception. Everyone is dependent on others, some more than others, and the situation changes constantly. Someday you are the one helping the one that is down in their luck, someday you will be the one needing a helping hand.
Relationships in which the individuals are used to/can accept dependency as something normal seem to be more stable agains the bulshit life throws against everyone.
Tell me how/why I am insane for coming to this reasoning.
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