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Yikes. Tell me you never took a science class, without telling me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 12:20 AM
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The data do not support your assertion.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 11:59 PM
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Yep:) I knew I didn’t want kids by the time I was 14. I have waffled on that a few times, and I tend to be content in most situations so I probably would have been ok with kids after, say, 35, but I do not regret getting my ducks in a row before even opening myself up to that possibility. My heirs are my two lovely nieces, and I love them deeply. We live in a society where even two parents are no longer enough to ensure a middle-class lifestyle for our kids. I’d rather help my brother turn out t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 05:13 PM
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No, they’re still a thing. I understand why people in general, and women in specific, see men as dangerous. But I also understand how hurtful that must be to men unfairly tarred by that brush.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 02:32 AM
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Did I? My life is pretty goddamn good, from where I sit, in a home I own with a husband and pets that I love.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 06:04 PM
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No, I didn’t address it in the same way that I don’t generally argue with 9/11 truthers.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 06:03 PM
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I’m aware of the implication, dumbass. That’s why I pointed it out. No, there are neither women who aren’t women nor men who aren’t men. Just because YOU don’t personally approve of someone doesn’t mean that they’re not a woman or a man. That’s both vicious and stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 05:56 PM
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This OP is a perfect example of the type of person who will buy a sexbot as soon as they’re available, and make the entire world, including all of the women, better off and happier thereby.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 05:34 AM
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“Avoiding us into tyranny” Wow. Talk about a lack of an interior locus of control. ‘I had to vote for the fascist because women won’t date me!’
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 05:28 AM
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You know that porn actresses are …acting, right? That’s what they get paid for. It’s work.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 05:23 AM
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This. And it just tears up the guys who have nothing to offer but a paycheck.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 05:22 AM
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TL,DR: ‘Men good, women bad. Men human and complex, women simple and only selfish.’ FFS. Can’t y’all talk to some real women whom you’re not paying?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 05:21 AM
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Eeeww
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 05:19 AM
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LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 05:18 AM
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Wow, the word ‘women’ in scare quotes. You’re openly insulting, and then act like the person you’re insulting is somehow irrationally emotional when they act like they’ve been insulted. You know, in some American states, ‘fighting words’ is a legal defense for battery.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 05:15 AM
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Friendship is necessary but not sufficient for a LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 09:30 PM
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Women love gay men not because of the metrosexuality, although that doesn’t hurt, but because gay men don’t GAF about women in general and can just be human friends without feeling resentful that they’re not getting sex from her.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 09:27 PM
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Women are assumed to be harmless and men are assumed to be dangerous. Both are often wrong. It’s definitely an aspect of women’s privilege that I recognize and occasionally take advantage of (not in the sense of taking more than my share of anything, more like stepping in between ‘warring’ parties because I know neither will see me as threatening). And I can definitely see how hurtful it must be for men, especially young men, with no anger or selfishness in their hearts to be treated as potentia…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 06:41 AM
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Huh. Well, you’re right that it’s a different culture. My ignorance is nearly 100% in that area; you could tell me that black folks like green teeth, and I’d neither believe nor disbelieve it because I have zero reference. I have black colleagues whom I’m friendly with, but I don’t think I’m in their inner circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:17 PM
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Averages only speak to averages. Population statistics literally cannot break out groups unless they’re deliver breaking out subgroups, rather than looking at the population as a whole. Even with that said, statistics do not support the claim that ‘women prefer criminals.’ Women like confidence and charm, but if you have two men with confidence and charm, one of whom is a criminal sociopath and the other of whom is not, the latter is going to win every time. Furthermore,saying that a man is ‘hot…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:15 PM
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Again, I have never seen or heard women speaking as you describe, despite almost 50 years as a woman. I have seen men being profoundly misogynistic in person. That might be a generational thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:09 PM
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IDK where you’re hanging out, but I’ve literally never heard a woman say that criminal men are attractive, and I’m pushing 50 years as a woman. The trend I’m seeing online right now is that ‘a high value man is an average woman’: no criminal record, job, home, good personal hygiene, car, good family relationships, friends, etc. Which is still not nice to men, but is almost the opposite of what you’re claiming above. The thing is, there are very different groups of women out there. I’m in the upp…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 05:18 PM
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Likewise, online fora dedicated to women expressing grievances about men might not be the best places to get a good idea of average women’s conversations.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 05:05 PM
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There’s also a lot of men online telling each other what women want, and acting like it’s the women themselves saying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 04:30 PM
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No, men don’t all prefer that. When I was a teenager, thinness to the point of emaciation was the fad, and any woman who didn’t have her ribs and hip bones sticking out was considered ‘fat.’ A lot of men still prefer that. Other men are more attracted to women who are rounder than what’s currently in magazines. Not everyone wants a tradcon relationship, not everyone wants kids, etc- and that’s good for all of us, because it means that there’s probably someone out there who’s attracted to our uni…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 04:27 PM
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Head on over to r/mensrights. It’s 99.9% ‘women are evil.’ There are also a LOT of porn/violence subs (see r/againsthatesubreddits for examples).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 04:15 PM
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The claim was that there is a great deal of singing about underage women (subtext: and sexual abuse) in rock. That claim was supported. Even if you think these sources were cherry-picked (they weren’t; it’s basically the first five links my search returned), the fact is that they support the claim that rock has at least some degree of problematic male behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 11:51 PM
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Similar thing happened to me, similar age. I was walking in the park with my dog, near my dad’s house. Dude my dad’s age approached me and asked if he could talk to me, and I said yes, because I figured he must be one of my friend’s parents who had recognized me from picking up his kid at school or something (I made up this entire scenario in my head to make it ok, because why TF else would a dude my dad’s age approach a strange girl in the park…?!), and maybe his daughter was home sick from cla…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 09:12 PM
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This isn’t wrong, and relationships between people of vastly different social/wealth classes often break up because of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 09:03 PM
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<sigh> https://www.npr.org/sections/therecord/2015/07/15/422964981/the-cruel-truth-about-rock-and-roll https://www.theguardian.com/music/2018/mar/15/i-wouldnt-want-this-for-anybodys-daughter-will-metoo-kill-off-the-rocknroll-groupie https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2021/sep/13/look-away-review-horrifying-stories-of-abuse-at-the-hands-of-male-rock-stars https://www.npr.org/2017/12/12/568728840/won-t-get-fooled-again-in-2017-women-confronted-the-deep-roots-of-rocks-boys-clu There are also …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 08:39 PM
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I can notice that other men are 'attractive,' but it's kind of in a distant sense. It's the same way I notice that a car is well-designed and well-kept, or a horse is pretty, or a flower. I can even be absolutely amazed at how pretty a flower is... but I don't want to have sex with it, or have a relationship. I don't even necessarily want it in my own garden, even if I think it looks fabulous in someone else's.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 07:54 PM
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When you make a claim, it is on you to support it. It’s up to you to use that search engine, not me. I do see where a neural net AI could approach something resembling consciousness, but it would have to be vastly more complex than current versions. I don’t think there’s enough compute currently, with or without a body.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 02:11 AM
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…this thing with the chatbot is more of a neurosis or mania. That's something you can't even touch. It's all in their head. A robot would be real, and at that point responsive at many levels, maybe with even some form of consciousness. That’s part of my point. People are already forming what they see as relationships with chatbots. Stick the chatbot into a robot, and it’ll be that much more compelling… for both sexes. Experts say that once they have bodies and sense the world in real time consci…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 11:17 PM
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As I already noted, there are a lot of women who already have “relationships” with chatbots. If he had a physical body and could have sex (when she wants it), open jars, and lift heavy objects, so much the better. And that’s gross. Yes, humans are often annoying and real relationships take effort. That’s part of what makes them real and rewarding. Chatbots and sexbots are basically a form of wireheading, which, as the prospect becomes more and more realistically possible, I’m finding out that I’…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 06:56 PM
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First off, not everyone will want a sexbot because, eeeew. Same reason not everyone has a flashlight. Most households will be ok with robot maids, but that’s not quite the same thing. Second off, why are you assuming that male sexbots won’t be a thing? Jigolos are a thing, and you can’t even have a pretend relationship with them. Over at r/myboyfriendisAI (don’t go unless you’re ready for serious squick) there are more women posting than men, to the shame of our gender. It’s
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 06:25 PM
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Most women also can’t wait for sex bots. The men who want mommybangmaids will get robot mommybangmaids, and the rest of us can go about our human lives unbothered.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 05:23 PM
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citation needed I’m honestly fine with OF, which as far as I can tell from my remove, is completely under the control of the women doing it. I dislike about 99% of porn because so much of it shows actresses pretending to enjoy degrading or even painful behavior from their partners, and teaches men to be crap in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 05:21 PM
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You not knowing a thing != nobody knowing about a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 10:55 PM
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Are you serious? This is a well known thing. Here’s one article for example, but google it and you’ll get everything from articles to philosophical analysis to Spotify playlists.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 07:37 AM
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I guess you never noticed the classic rock guys singing about underage women? The musicals about underage women?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 09:28 PM
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Dude. Focus.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 12:11 AM
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I’m not ‘into’ dog breeding, I’m interested in it as a dog person. What a red herring.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 09:36 PM
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Pretty sure prisoners can be convicted of further crimes for bad behavior in prison.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 09:34 PM
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snort
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 08:44 PM
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And there is a lot of music by men that is demeaning towards women
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 08:34 PM
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Yeah, if what you just described is the whole story, she's a psychopath and should be removed from the general population.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 05:06 PM
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The same is true of music by women. There's both love and heartache.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 05:04 PM
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burning someone to death is torture. If the dude was self-immolating as a form of protest, that's one thing; if she was doing it only for the prupose of harming him, it's another.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 06:44 AM
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Sexually victimizing people is wrong. Physically abusing people is wrong, and physically abusing them to the point that they are seriously harmed is worse still. Murdering them is the worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 05:17 PM
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Men singing about wanting to fuck and abuse women is not ‘men singing about loving women.’ You have some serious selection bias going on, my dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 05:13 PM
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It’s completely different for multiple reasons. First, every woman knows that dudes sometimes flip out and go nuts if you reject them bluntly in person. Insults about 1/3 of the time, often with screaming, and physical contact or even violence on occasion. On the other hand, he’s much less likely to whip out his dick within the first 30 words. Second, in-person interactions are much more intense, even when there are no insults, than screen interactions. There are a whole host of non-verbal cues …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 05:41 PM
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Right. And women who aren’t swiping on you aren’t rejecting you, any more than you are ‘choosing’ them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 03:44 AM
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It’s ‘being rejected’ only to the same degree that a shopper choosing one brand of canned beans instead of another, for no reason but that the label on one is prettier, is ‘rejecting’ the other can of beans. It’s such a fast, shallow decision, on an app designed to promote meaningless hookups, that it basically has zero reflection on him at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 03:27 AM
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There are roughly 8,736 hours in a year. To have been rejected ‘10s of thousands of times,’ you can’t be putting a lot of effort into any given pass if you are also not a NEET and are getting any normal amount of sleep, unless you’re in your 70’s or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 03:22 AM
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Every woman on Tinder within 500 miles of you not swiping the same direction as you != ‘being rejected.’
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 12:08 AM
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That depends on money, not gonads.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 12:04 AM
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Only if you only care about no-strings, no-attraction, no-emotional connection sex. Basically, only if you want to masturbate with a human body.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 06:57 PM
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The female cheater lost her job. That’s a significant consequence. It’s a pity that the male cheater didn’t also, but men are almost never punished for infidelity, including in the golden era that you rhapsodize about.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 05:11 PM
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Too many men: ‘I want a woman who will cook, clean, have sex whenever I want it, raise our children, and will be serene and happy to see me when I get home from work.’ Trad women: ‘Great! I want that too. But you have to prove that you’re capable of supporting that lifestyle for us, because I can’t do that and also work 40 hours a week.’ The same men: ‘You dirty gold digger! You’re incapable of love, no better than a prostitute.’
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 10:24 PM
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As a white woman happily married to an Asian man, I call bullshit. Your problem isn’t that you’re Asian, it’s that you’re not hot and you’re an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 10:21 PM
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And this is true even when they both work the same hours.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 10:19 PM
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I don’t think that “most” men are toxic, and for the ones who are, it’s mostly in the context of dating or romantic relationships, so interacting with them otherwise is usually safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 10:13 PM
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Teenage women have to behave like jaded old women because men can’t be held to a standard of basic human decency. Yup. Speaking as a jaded old woman, thankfully married to a decent man who has self control and honor, fuck you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 12:04 AM
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Young men are begging to be useful and wanted. But only in ways not coded as even slightly ‘feminine.’ There are a lot of young men out there who apparently think that their dick will fall off if they are overly competent at grocery shopping or any kind of care work. This is not all young men, and possibly not even a majority, but JFC the paranoia about the ‘loss of masculinity’ in some circles is very, very deep.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 09:00 PM
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It’s not hard to assign Nazi goals to someone when they’re literally spouting Nazi propaganda.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 05:05 AM
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Have you ever sung to a woman you were dating, or trying to make a good impression on?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 04:53 AM
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I wish I could give this more than one upvote.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 04:51 AM
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Anyone who thinks like this doesn’t jot understand what ‘being a decent person’ means.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 04:49 AM
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‘What they missed out on,’ ie, by being monogamous rather than fucking anything that moves? My boy, I hate to break it to you, but most men have far more sex inside of a relationship than outside of one. And a man who wants an open relationship can find women who want open relationships. And women are compensated for the work they do within a marriage as well as the career they missed out on. Look at the salaries of live-in personal chefs, live-in nannies, and live-in housekeepers. WRT compensat…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 10:45 PM
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Men don’t ’get women pregnant,’ unless they’re rapists. Most of the time, the two of them are joint participants. That means that the man is just as responsible as the woman for the condition, but biologically the entire physical burden is on her. As for ‘abstinence until you’re ready to have a kid,’ ask Piper Palin how well that works. We all come from a hundred thousand generations of people who failed to keep it in their pants.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 09:48 PM
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See points 1 and 4.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 04:32 AM
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They are compensated for the work they did, not the husband they picked. And do you really want to go to calling women sex workers for having sex with their husbands?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 04:30 AM
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People have a little bit more control over whom they marry than over major economic forces. This is not a huge ask. Poly people should be with poly people and monogamous people with monogamous people. From what I hear, more women are poly than men, so it shouldn’t even be that hard. And yes, women who care about earning potential should not marry men who think they should sacrifice their careers for his, and men should be realistic that, if they want kids, they’re either going to have to compens…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 02:16 AM
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So, that’s not correct. I think the majority of the women I know, based on my conversations with them, enjoy sex and have it primarily as a bonding ritual, not as a way to get off or have extreme orgasms. Pretty much all of us can do better, physically, alone than we can with a male partner, so just getting off isn’t why we do it. IDGAF how hot a guy is, or how big his dick is, or how great he is at sex. I’m not going to be able to get off with him at all if I can’t relax, and I’m not going to r…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 06:37 PM
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This doesn’t explain why lesbians have better/more orgasms.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 11:41 PM
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Yes. The people who talk about it are not actually doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 06:29 PM
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We mocked, and continue to mock, men who ‘GTOW’ and then spend 90% of their time complaining about women. Men who actually do their own thing are fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 06:06 PM
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1)It takes 2 to cause a pregnancy. 2)some pregnancies are caused by rape. 3)some pregnancies are wanted, but don’t go well. 4)some pregnancies occur despite proper use of birth control. In general, the most efficacious forms of birth control have the highest up front costs.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 06:04 PM
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Therefore men should take more responsibility for contraception.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 06:00 PM
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It’s not a flex. That’s why no one is talking about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 05:59 PM
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The women who were talking about 4B were not the women who were dating men who voted for Trump. It was kind of like the BLM protesters who did vandalism in Portland- how is that helping anything? You’re only hurting the people who already agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 05:57 PM
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I would love it if young women could show up to a date in cargo shorts and no makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 12:19 AM
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Pretty sure that was sarcasm
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 12:12 AM
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FWIW, some women do YOLO out of marriage… probably in similar proportions to the number of men who do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 12:11 AM
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HIS HIS HIS I agree that, if you think that a wife is some sort of semi-parasitic, non-contributing pet, you absolutely should not get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 12:08 AM
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I don’t want anyone to try to be more ‘dominant’ than they naturally want to be, in any given circumstance. I’m a senior tech at my lab, and that means I’m naturally dominant over junior techs regardless of gender, despite not being a very aggressive or dominant person in general. If some junior tech dude feels like he’s being emasculated by taking instruction from me, it’s a problem. There’s one guy who’s junior to me, but has a lot more experience in the blood bank. I ask him for help in the b…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 07:20 PM
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LOL. You’re just not good at this. You’re boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 08:12 AM
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Your reading comprehension is lacking. Re-read the conversation, and look at what I actually say, not what you want to argue about.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 08:11 AM
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We’re not popping out the babies, though. That’s what has y’all in a panic now. And yeah: having a properly installed car seat saves lives. Innocent little kids, remember? Friend of mine was killed in a head-on crash in the freeway. Her three month old was in the back, in a properly installed car seat. When EMS got there, my friend was a pulped mess and the car was a crinkled ball of tinfoil, but they could hear the baby crying even though they couldn’t see her. They took the car apart to dig he…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 04:15 AM
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snort And I know you know someone who took one term of critical thinking and thinks that ‘prima facia’ sounds cool, but missed the part about ad-hominems being useless in a real argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 04:11 AM
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Now you’re resorting to ad-hominems and changing the subject again, to sex and the lack and/or payment thereof. You really, really want to argue about things that I haven’t said. No one said anything about anyone being submissive based on gender, much less kowtowing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 04:09 AM
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We were talking about the choice whether or not to have kids, based on the impact that has on a woman’s earning potential. If you want to talk about divorce, that’s another conversation. It’s related, but it’s not part of this conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 04:06 AM
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You’re the one who changed the subject, honey. I just allowed it. WRT unequal taxation, idek why you’re bringing that up since it’s not a counter to any point that I have made. As I said in my first comment on the topic, women do make more than men… when they’re single and childless. And they get taxed as the higher earners that they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 02:01 AM
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You want nuclear families, you have to support nuclear families, not just demand that women throw themselves on the financial sword over and over. Fuck that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 01:59 AM
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I agree that pregnancy is avoidable, and having children is a choice. So do all of the women, including myself, choosing to reproduce either not at all, or below the replacement rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 01:15 AM
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Yes, I’m aware of what it is. And I agree that it is much easier for two people to get a home together than for one person to get a home by themself. That still doesn’t explain how it’s relevant to single women buying more homes than single men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 01:13 AM
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If he didn’t want to be monogamous, he should have married someone who was poly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 12:01 AM
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I enjoy the tasks, and I enjoy the security of knowing that my investments in my home will either remain mine, or financially benefit me in the future:)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 11:56 PM
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Not sure how that applies to more single women than single men owning homes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 11:46 PM
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Which part do you doubt? That more single women than single men own homes? That the pay gap is caused by children? Both of those things are quite widely documented.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 11:45 PM
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I would say it’s self-deceptive to claim to be something you’re not, and still hypocrisy to want to be promiscuous while demanding something else from your partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 06:27 PM
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I wish we lived in a world where people could be who they naturally are, without gender stereotypes and social pressure. There would still be bimodal distributions on a lot of things, but no one would be called ‘unmanly’ or ‘unfeminine’ for not falling on the mode. On dating apps, the first questions would be, ‘I have genitalia X, I am attracted to genitalia B, I do/do not want my own biological children with my romantic partner, I do/do not want exclusivity.’
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 06:21 PM
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snort https://nypost.com/2025/01/29/real-estate/single-women-own-millions-more-homes-than-single-men-in-the-us/ And no, it’s not because ‘they get it in the divorce.’ Young, college-educated women statistically earn more than young men in the same demographic… until they have kids. It is the responsibility of caring for children, not being female, that causes the wage gap. If a woman eschews marriage and children, she’s going to statistically be better off than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 06:10 PM
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No. I hope they’re happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 05:42 AM
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Way too many modern men think that they deserve a mommy bangmaid who works just as many hours as them, but picks up the home and child care while they kick back with a beer and video games after work.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 02:57 AM
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Registering for the draft is not conscription. And it’s also not women demanding that men register for the draft, and not women starting wars.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 02:55 AM
5

If I hit someone with a baseball bat, such that they incur exactly $10K of lost work and medical fees, is that the same as hacking their bank account and stealing exactly $10K?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 02:54 AM
15

Also right wing: no Head Start, no Medicaid, no paid parental leave, no public schools.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 10:54 PM
6

If you think marriage is only about sex, then you absolutely should never get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 10:50 PM
28

1)Your wallet is not your body. 2)Men do not sacrifice their current and future earning potential to the relationship the same way that women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 10:50 PM
5

I’ve been with my husband about 11 years now, and we’re doing pretty well. I frequent this sub partly to remind myself of how great he is compared to the men on here, and partly because I hope to save some young men and women from going down the hateful terp path.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 09:53 PM
17

That’s why a barter marketplace is a better metaphor. You go to market because you have a cow, and you need some grain or a barrel or a multitude of things. But maybe the cooper need a dairy cow, not a beef cow. Or maybe your cow is ugly. Or maybe your cow is barren. Maybe the cooper doesn’t want a cow at all. You have to find the best trade with someone who has something close to what you want, who also wants what you’re selling.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 02:56 AM
1

I think that, if you’re conscious enough to speak during sex, something is going wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 01:24 AM
5

I think porn consumption is natural and, in some contexts, even healthy for men. But the sex acts portrayed in a lot of porn go from degrading to uncomfortable to painful to dangerous, and men who expect real sex to look like porn sex are bad lovers at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 10:16 PM
1

Most primary teachers, including back when women were still being excluded from many places of higher education and learning was seen as a ‘male’ endeavor, have always been women. All teachers care about all of their students, and it’s laughable to claim that they do not. Society as a whole does not care about public school students as a whole, as evidenced by classrooms with 40 or more students to a single teacher, no AC and/or no heat, etc, and that statistically hurts boys more than girls. Bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 01:05 AM
2

That would be true of other false accusations as well. Basically, rape is not different than other crimes in this regard.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 01:01 AM
4

The research I have seen does not support that assertion. This: Wikipedia article is a good, well-sourced description of the current consensus. Every paper that sincerely investigates actual false accusations (vs police declining to investigate, charges dismissed, etc) comes up with a false accusation rate that is on par with false accusations of assault, theft, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 10:52 PM
3

False accusations do happen, but they’re extremely rare. Most of the guys who say they were falsely accused were not falsely accused, or at a minimum were behaving in a very sketchy even if technically legal way. It’s kind of like when some men say that their ex-wife ‘won’t let him see his kids,’ but didn’t actually ask for greater custody in the settlement and doesn’t want to have to ever make them meals, shop for school clothes, or do any of the actual work of caring for them. Edit: my dad ask…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 08:41 PM
1

No, it compares male attention to excess water. It’s the quiet of saying that men are dying of thirst and women are dying of drowning.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 08:38 PM
1

Being a sex slave is worse than not having sex, yes. JFC.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 10:33 PM
0

‘Incels’ should just have sex with each other. Problem solved. ‘But wait,’ they say. ‘We’re not attracted to these men. We don’t want to have sex with each other.’ Yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 04:52 AM
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Look at what you just wrote
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 03:12 AM
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It is reasonable for men to be upset that they don’t have a relationship. It is not reasonable for them to be upset at women that they don’t have relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 01:55 AM
1

In typical parlance, yes, and that’s the only country that I have any familiarity for on this topic. But Asian people and Jewish people are also some of the best-educated globally.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 05:00 PM
1

Only if you count American Jews and Asian-Americans as ‘Western.’
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 12:05 PM
1

Four posts up
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 04:50 AM
1

Teenage self-centered stupidity? It’s been decades at this point, and we re-write our memories, usually in a way that makes us feel better about ourselves, every time we recall them. I don’t think that I can accurately reflect on the degree of my stupidity at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 04:48 AM
3

Asian and a Jewish students have the smallest gender gaps in High School graduation rates and college enrollment, and both groups are some of the most highly educated people in the US. This should be a shock to no one, because statistically these groups value schooling more than others. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/15/upshot/the-gender-achievement-gap-starts-later-for-asian-american-students.html https://nces.ed.gov/programs/coe/indicator/cpb/college-enrollment-rate https://aibm.org/research/…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 04:40 AM
4

Boys used to be ‘better than girls’ at education, in much stricter contexts. I agree that getting rid of recess was stupid, and that class sizes are too big, and that we need more male teachers. But if boys can’t accept that the teaching is for them unless it’s about them, rather than about everyone, that’s a cultural problem, not just a school problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 03:58 AM
1

See the links I posted in response to someone else making that claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 03:51 AM
3

In my case, as a teenager, it honestly did not occur to me that my brother would see himself included in the ‘men suck’ conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 07:32 PM
1

Interesting. May I ask what country you’re in?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 07:31 PM
3

Trade jobs are good, necessary work, and are the right path for a lot of people. That doesn’t meant that degrees are bad or that school is feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 07:11 PM
1

I think most people in their 20’s aren’t good relationship material.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 05:00 PM
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Except that liberal men aren’t the ones having problems getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 04:54 PM
4

So, FWIW, when I was a teenager I was in the car with my mom, my aunt, and my brother, and the women/girls were having that rah rah women good men bad rant, basically just having fun, and after like 5 minutes straight of this my brother snapped and it was clear that it really hurt his feelings. I don’t remember the words he used , but the gist of it really made an impression on me and I’m glad that he did. I’m not sure I would have been able to hear it as clearly from any other source. So, pleas…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 04:53 PM
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How much of this is due to men and boys fleeing education because it started to be seen as feminized/weak? Boys from cultures that value education are still doing fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 04:34 PM
1

Of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 05:43 PM
12

It’s not as big as a dildo any woman bad but, and comes with a lot more baggage.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:09 AM
8

Yes. It’s basically saying that women are borderline sociopathic, and given that I think a lot of terps are basically sociopaths, it’s one more thing that is just straight up projection on their parts.
/r/ExRedPill01/05/25 10:33 PM
6

I want someone who treats me like an equal, not like a superior.
/r/ExRedPill01/05/25 10:20 PM
4

“Premium” includes “faithful.”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:02 PM
1

You’re not going to have any success until women are not better off alone than they are with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 11:48 PM
1

1)did you actually see these people having sex? 2)I don’t think that anyone denies that specific people in specific contexts have way more sex than average.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 04:24 PM
0

It has to do with any man. There are just so goddamn many interruptions and demands for attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 05:03 PM
2

Showing friendship is not lying. Showing friendship is not making plans for a future together. If the woman in story 2 had done either of those things, I would agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 11:07 AM
1

I hear a lot of women saying that things change drastically once a kid comes into the picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 11:02 AM
1

Rich people tend to be assholes. There is no amount of money that could make up for having to live with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 06:35 AM
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Because men will interrupt anything and demand attention at any time. Excuse you, random stranger man who sent a bolt of electricity down my arm by grabbing me out of nowhere?! No, telling me I look good does not make that ok. Excuse you, literally gangrenous patient asking for my phone number at work? No, I do not have relationships with patients.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 11:22 PM
1

Excluded center fallacy. I did not say money ‘makes no difference to women.’ I said that it’s borderline noble for someone to find contentment despite poverty.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 11:10 PM
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Yes. I’ve had friendships- both male and female- simply abandoned for reasons I do not understand. I’m incredibly socially awkward, and often fail to read situations that are completely obvious to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 03:15 AM
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So, ‘successful monogamy’ was not the standard in the past, either. A woman economically coerced into staying with a man she would rather have left is not ‘success,’ divorce rates notwithstanding. Couples forced to marry rather than abort unwanted pregnancies was not success. Children parented by people who hated each other was not success.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 09:30 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 04:18 AM
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For their sake, I sincerely hope you’re right.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 01:20 AM
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My nieces have it worse than me because of abortion rights and the current generation of young men sneering ‘your body, my choice,’ which is rapey AF as well as anti-choice. Andrew Tate wouldn’t even recognize my existence, for which I am grateful, but my nieces are at exactly the just-approaching-puberty age that pedos like him target. I also feel sorry for them because I had the fortune to marry a man who didn’t learn about sex from porn, and most of the guys their age think that strangling so…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 11:37 PM
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I definitely have it better than my mother or grandmother did. I think I also have it better than my nieces, though. And that’s with the fact that I have been called into the office more than once for speaking in the same way (eg, cursing when frustrated, and not making fake nice) that no one blinks twice when a man says or acts the same way. And that’s in a northwestern state that is about as liberated as it gets anywhere. The fact that fundie baby voice is a thing anywhere, much less within th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 10:34 PM
1

They might be in non-sexual partnered relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 10:22 PM
1

I agree with your basic premise; we really need to get over the puritan fear of the human body… but why are you capitulating to the Trump admin’s fear of the word ‘woman’?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 04:53 PM
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Hahhahahahhahahahahha Teen love is infatuation with an idea, not an actual person. You might as well say that a stalker’s ‘love’ for a fictional character is more genuine.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 06:05 AM
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If you’re worried about your GF/wife being so desperate for a larger cock to feel ‘fulfilled’ in sex, 1)get a cock sheath or 2)get a dildo. Et voila. Problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 09:06 PM
0

100% agree that men who have this view should pay escorts.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 08:54 PM
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Because a mommy bangmaid probably would make their lives significantly easier.
/r/ExRedPill20/04/25 08:46 PM
1

Yes, there’s a preference. Just like there are preferences for coat color.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 07:44 PM
1

It’s something I’ve heard from others, not from my personal experience
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 07:43 PM
1

That’s beyond my level of knowledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 06:38 AM
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FWIW, I meant that ‘within 2 SD or so of normal for other factors.’
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 06:37 AM
1

Statistically, big dicks don’t get as hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 06:27 AM
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It’s not moving the goalpost. I keep on saying, “all other things being equal…” sure. A big dick is nice. A black coat is nice. But it’s nowhere near the most important factor, even in sex. Big penises are not nearly as important to women as they are to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 06:23 AM
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Compares women to cows Implies relationships are payment for sex Ignores that good guys have relationships, and implies that friendship is all one-way ‘trauma dumping’ and that decent people are ‘emotional tampons’ Implies that women are a resource to be hoarded like money ‘Why haven’t women ever liked me? I used to be a nice guy and now I’m an asshole, and they still don’t like me. It must be that the women are all stupid whores who only like even worse assholes than me.’
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 06:20 AM
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Yeah, not exactly. It’s like, do I pick the puppy with the black coat, which I like, or do I pick the puppy whose personality matches what I want? Like, there is a preference there, sure, but it only comes into play when everything else is equal. A better man is a better man regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 02:59 AM
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When it counts is upto the man to decide. snort Why? If another person especially a shitty asshole got to test drive my car, for free I'd be salty but hey maybe that's just me. You know that pretty much all cars are test driven by other people, right? Women do not have the same paranoia about other women having test driven their guy. And you didn’t answer the question. Why would you think that a rented sports car was better or more valued than the SUV someone chose to buy? Why do women like to p…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 02:54 AM
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He’s her first choice when her life and body are on the line. He’s her first choice when it counts. JFC, do you think that a rented sports car is ‘better’ than the SUV you chose to buy? And no, your type don’t GAF if her past beaus presented themselves as ‘nice guys.’ Y’all hate each other so much that you think any woman who’s been touched by another man is permanently tainted by his touch. And here’s the last thing: you think you’re a nice guy, but you’re really a Nice Guy(tm). You’re the type…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 10:30 PM
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That’s a lot of words for ‘I want to date a n 18 year old who doesn’t know any better.’ ‘Choosing recklessly’ IS playing games. You want to be a ‘player’ without the stigma of being a player. You want to date a hot young woman for her stupidity as well as her body, and you think that makes you somehow noble and romantic. The men women choose after they know better are not ‘consolation prizes,’ they’re better men. The fact that so many of you think that choosing to have a man’s children and make …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 09:49 PM
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A floppy big dick loses to a rock-hard small dick, and both lose to a physically untransitioned trans man, without a strapon, who just knows how to get things done. All other things being equal, sure: big dicks can be nice. All other things being equal, a billionaire would be better than a millionaire would be better than a guy making $60K/year, but if the former two are greedy, sociopathic schmucks who were born on third base and think they hit a triple, and the last guy is kind, hardworking, g…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 09:35 PM
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Shock and self-control are antithetical.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 11:41 PM
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I believe the term they used was ‘erotic,’ which is not necessarily the same thing. In addition, studies have shown over and over that women’s bodies prepare for sex even if they don’t want it, because things like vaginal lubrication prevent tearing or other harm. And ‘partly aversive’ doesn’t imply that it was something they wanted to have happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 04:30 PM
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IIRC 10 points is ~ 1SD, so 4-5 would be about half an SD. That’s significant, and also does not jibe with what I observe IRL. IQ does measure one form of intelligence, and an important one. I 100% agree with you that it’s not the only important one, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 04:28 PM
1

It saved my life at least once.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 03:34 PM
1

Address the point and not the source
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 03:34 PM
3

Almost 50% found the fantasies partly or completely aversive. Half of 60% is 30%.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 03:33 PM
1

Reword what the abstract says in your own words, including what you think ‘aversive’ means.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 03:31 PM
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1)’female undergraduates’ is not ‘all women.’ 2)46% found the fantasies ‘aversive,’ meaning that less than a third of women wanted the rape that some of them were fantasizing about. ‘Fantasizing’ and ‘day dreaming’ can include ‘what would I do if x happened’ type scenarios.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 01:20 PM
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Y’all kind of do, though. Why do you think so many men open carry or CC?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 01:16 PM
1

That’s not what the study is about. The poster above asked you what your interpretation of the study is.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 01:12 PM
5

Greeeeeaaaaaat idea. What could possibly go wrong. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 04:27 AM
5

So, no decent pay for ANY teachers, regardless of gender, is your new position?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 04:22 AM
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Teaching the a constantly described as a ‘calling’ and that women should be satisfied with helping children. Why can’t men be “called” to teaching, too? Do you really think that women want to be stepped on? Do you think that overall teacher quality- including female teachers- wouldn’t improve, if class sizes went down and pay went up? And do you really think that boys are just incapable of learning from women? No. Boys in other cultures do just fine. But too many American men and boys 1)see acad…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 01:45 AM
0

Most women actually like and value their friends, even their male friends. Some men, apparently, do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 01:37 AM
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Friendzoning is the male term for fuckzoning, when a man pretends to be a woman’s friend, gets her time and support and companionship, but actually just wants to get into her pants and doesn’t actually care about her as a person.
/r/ExRedPill17/04/25 10:47 PM
1

Being ‘cancelled’ = ‘people are saying mean things about me in public.’ Boo fucking hoo. Free speech goes both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 05:22 AM
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It’s not about being an ascetic. You can have a LOT of sex and be very poor. You can enjoy a lot of things that don’t take money. For most people, a rescued mutt is just as good of a dog as a purebred, or better.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 02:53 AM
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I find it …strange that you would disrespect anyone who has found happiness in a way that harms no one.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 02:21 AM
1

That is never the reason I hear women actually give for wanting less sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 09:36 PM
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And that’s fine. No one should stay in a miserable relationship. If a dude doesn’t want a relationship, as long as he’s not a liar, that’s fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 05:00 PM
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‘Mediocre but not physically violent’ != ‘good.’
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 04:59 PM
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Society is not the same as the government. If you insult people, you will get flack- but that is not the same as not being able to say truths without, say, the president bankrupting you with spurious investigations.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 06:23 AM
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Sometimes, in a democracy, we get what other people vote for.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 10:03 PM
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Yeah, all of these guys who want tradwives but don’t make enough to support a family, so it really means that they want their wife to do all of the home and child care despite her also working full time.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 05:59 PM
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Cherry-picking and false attribution.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 05:58 PM
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Yeah. It didn’t matter that I wasn’t trying to physically hurt him- I was still striking out in anger. I was allowing myself to be out of my own control. It’s not ok for an adult to act like that. I’m still ashamed of it, and it was like 20 years ago. I’m grateful to my boyfriend at that time for showing me what I was doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 07:51 PM
2

This is not universal. Men used to have male friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 02:28 AM
1

Ok, but what you just said isn’t the same as an ‘anti-male psyop.’
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 10:45 PM
3

That is a misogynistic idea at its base. Feminism is the idea that women are people, not just sex objects and uteri.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 05:49 PM
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You’re missing the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 05:48 PM
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Yet another ‘I know what’s in your head better than you do’ dudebro. I had a crush on my brother’s best friend, a very nice guy, for about 4 years solid. It ended because he and my brother graduated, and he moved away. He was the first guy I ever had a crush on. I am not some kind of unicorn. I expressed it mostly by avoiding him at any cost, and gazing wistfully from afar, because I knew with 100% certainty that he had zero interest in little girls almost 4 years younger than himself. That’s ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 04:44 AM
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The two can correlate, absolutely, but they do not necessarily do so, and fear of the unknown man doesn’t necessarily translate into hatred of all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:58 AM
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The majority of experiences that men have with women are also non-aversive, outside of the dating context (eg, when they want something from the woman in question). Pretty much ALL of my black friends occasionally have totally random, completely unprompted, abject racism thrown at them at least several times a year, with profoundly scarring instances happening multiple times in their lives. Just to take one example, black students saw their grades and test scores go UP during the pandemic lockdo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:29 AM
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Fear is not the same thing as hatred.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:23 AM
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Both women and men want to date the most attractive, most wealthy, most fit, most healthy, smartest, most adept person they can get. It’s only a problem in women, for some reason.
/r/ExRedPill09/04/25 01:14 AM
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I don’t think porn is inherently bad. It can even be healthy in some contexts. Violent, abusive, ‘edgy’ porn, OTOH… When you have a large proportion of young women saying that they have had partners attempt to strangle them without asking or prior discussion, there is a huge problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:12 AM
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No, that does not happen in the West. Some women hate all men, and a lot (most?) of women are fearful of unknown men, but neither all nor most western women hate all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:08 AM
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TRP believes that women are incapable of love. If you believe that of all people, it’s profoundly misanthropic.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:06 AM
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Multiple points of disagreement, in order of your post: First, you’re talking as if all women are the same. A LOT of women out there are not interested in crazy men, and never have been, just like a lot of men were never interested in crazy women, no matter how hot the sex might have been. The problem is that nice girls are wallflowers, just like nice guys are. We’re in the science classroom for Science Olympiad, with our hair in a ponytail, jeans and a tshirt, and no makeup, not going to cheer …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 12:29 AM
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By that standard, it would be rational for all women to hate all men, and for all black people (all people of color, really) to hate all white people.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 11:48 PM
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Men can still join the military, join the cloister, or join the trades if they aren’t appealing to mates. It just won’t guarantee them sex and power.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 11:46 PM
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Not unless you’re profoundly misanthropic.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 11:44 PM
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As groups, men and women are the same. As individuals, people are different from each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 11:43 PM
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Yeah, 98% of men couldn’t give less of a fuck about you unless you get anywhere near their female family members.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 11:04 PM
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I just listened to an interview by one of the writers saying that it was inspired by at least two different knifings by boys in different ends of the English island.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 11:02 PM
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That’s not ‘men.’
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 10:59 PM
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‘People on the left want it to be’ Really? Are the people on the left in the room with us now?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 10:59 PM
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So, a couple of decades ago I hit a boyfriend in what I thought was a ‘playful’ way, and he joking/not joking said, ‘Help, help, domestic abuse!’ And it shocked me to the core. I’ve never hit anyone since. I was basically taught that me hitting someone wouldn’t actually hurt them, that it was basically like a kitten threatening to hurt you. But the reality is that a grown human woman generally weighs as much as at least 30 kittens, and 30 kittens absolutely could cause some damage.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 07:33 PM
1

Because we as a society lose our collective shit when a conventionally attractive blonde woman is killed or assaulted? Would be my guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 01:24 AM
1

I’d walk alone a fuckton more. Walk at night, hike in the woods, go backpacking and camping… Basically, everything that women say they would do ‘if all men disappeared for a day.’
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 05:50 PM
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Everyone is entitled to safety, in the sense that it is legal for them or others to use violence to protect themselves. Women are not different in this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 04:58 AM
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I see testimonies like this from dudes and it is so diametrically opposed to my experience with myself and with my woman friends that I have to think it’s either made up, or there’s some subset of the population that is effectively another species.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 06:12 PM
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I have never heard a single ‘body positive’ woman say that it was mens’ fault that they went on a shooting spree.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 06:19 AM
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They’re not off the market, they’re just asking for a price that makes selling their limited fuel supply worth the independence, serenity, and freedom that they’ll lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 06:18 AM
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In natural disasters where areas are cut off from sources of trade, gas may indeed get up to $50/gallon (or more) because it’s extremely difficult to bring in and/or the people selling will have to go without fuel for themselves if they sell some to you. Putting artificial price caps on will only mean that it’s not profitable to bring fuel in, and/or it’s not worth it for those who have fuel to sell it to you. The market is the market, and yes, that is a tautology, but it’s also relevant because…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 06:15 AM
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You’re the one who brought the focus down to makeup, not me. I was responding to your entire set of claims about what the ‘average woman’ is like.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 04:44 AM
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The rest of the post is just as delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 02:28 PM
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The average woman wears makeup sometimes, but not lashes, etc and definitely not makeup to the degree you’re implying. We do not have the fucking time for all of that. You’re literally talking instagram/trophy wife levels of appearance management- women whose careers are literally based on their looks- and assuming that’s ’all women or ‘average women’ because those are the ones you notice. Most of us roll out of bed, get dressed, make coffee, walk the dog, and go to work. We do not have the fuck…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 06:27 AM
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No, the ‘average woman’ does not. Just for starters, the ‘average American woman’ is 40 years old.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 06:34 PM
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I’m a very heterosexual woman, and my hypothesis is that some degree of same-sex love is required to be able to make oneself attractive in anything other than a formulaic way. I am not good at it. I kind of don’t care about my appearance, or that of other women, beyond basic hygiene; I dress in relatively ‘classic’ fashion because it’s formulaic and easy. I strongly suspect that men are bi just as often as women are, but they’re socially punished much more harshly for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 12:02 AM
2

That doesn’t take a lot of skill.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 07:55 AM
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There was a ticktock that went around a while ago where some dude was showing the difference between splitting with an axe vs. a maul, and it was ridiculously unintentionally sexy, and the comments were all like, ‘well, I just got pregnant😂.’ So, sure, it can be very sexy. But so can dancing, or running warmups, or calligraphy, or whatever. I guess a lot of guys saw the ‘chopping wood’ part and missed the ‘friendly, open, helpful, attractive guy doing something he’s obviously really good at’ par…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 05:59 AM
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There’s a balance. There has to be some amount of sexual attraction, but not so much that you seem like you are not under your own control and not so much that you can’t see the prospective partner as a human being.
/r/ExRedPill31/03/25 10:05 PM
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These guys thinking that instagram models represent all, or even a majority, of women😂 Those are the only ones terps care about, so I guess it makes sense in that context.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 08:46 PM
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And pre-cast with the type of person who is likely to create drama.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 01:06 AM
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With all due respect, basing any part of your worldview on “reality” television is a fool’s errand. It’s all scripted, and it’s all there to support pre-existing, comforting worldviews using a cast drawn from a very selective group of people in a very narrow geographic area.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 01:05 AM
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Magazine surveys are kind of the paradigmatic ‘not representative of the population’ survey. I sincerely hope the actual numbers are not that high. I also wonder what the numbers are of men who ‘stealth’ women, ‘accidentally’ cum in the wrong place, and/or sabotage condoms. I agree with you that lying about, or sabotaging, birth control is borderline evil. No one should be forced to have a child they don’t want, or have a child with a person they don’t want to parent with. Lying about wanting ki…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 06:46 PM
2

lol what?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 10:30 PM
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There has never been a society that paid parents the equivalent of what they lose, to have children. There have been societies that paid people to have children, but they’ve never made parents whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 03:46 AM
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FWIW, I feel like my marriage benefits me greatly. We don’t have kids, which is huge, and we’re pretty copacetic in terms of values and goals- but we’re abut equally likely to cook, and it’s really fantastic to occasionally have another person at home (or wherever) to help with forgotten issues or help with tasks that have piled up abruptly. Not to mention the DINK phenomenon. I get exasperated with him sometimes, and he gets exasperated with me sometimes, but overall we get along really well.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 03:44 AM
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Men are much more likely to leave a woman who gets cancer or some other chronic, serious diagnosis, than vice-versa. Men also move on if their female partner dies. Women and children are better off if their husband/father stays with them than if he sacrifices himself. Basically everything you wrote is an evo-psych just-so story.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 07:09 AM
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It basically says that women are incapable of love wile teaching men to lie to, manipulate, and avoid actual love with women.
/r/ExRedPill26/03/25 10:56 AM
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Who said anything about wife beating?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 06:53 AM
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And then those women got divorced because their husbands stepped out on them, or wouldn’t do half of the house work even though the women worked outside the home just as many hours, and they got tired of having a babyman around. And their daughters learned the lesson to never depend completely on a man, because you’ll be high and dry if things go south.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 05:32 AM
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Same None of my single friends will go on a date with a conservative guy. Voting for Trump or liking Andrew Tate = automatic block.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 05:29 AM
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snort It’s not left wing men having tantrums and being absolutely incapable of more adulting than going to work every day. Right wing men have such fragile masculinity that they put fake balls on the aggressively ugly pickups that they spent $150K on to commute to work in (‘it’s a tax cut if it’s over 6000 lbs, hurhurhur!’) and think that grunting and shooting themselves in the foot, literally and figuratively, makes them more manly. And no, that is not ‘attractive.’
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 05:27 AM
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As a white woman who voted Harris, I think that the white men who voted Trump are significantly worse. The women are mostly deluded, naive, and/or careless; the men believed Trump when he said what he would do, and liked it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 05:22 AM
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Yes, because right wing men are perfectly happy to lie about their politics to get someone into bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 04:56 AM
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Super creepy. No argument. Nothing but ad-homs. Pathetic. This is boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 08:05 PM
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It’s just a survey of college students, but still. That’s awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 07:00 PM
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Wow, now you want to intervene on my husband’s and my sex life? What a creep. Mind your own business.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 06:57 PM
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I’m married. Nice attempt to attack me personally, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 12:08 AM
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Not at all, to the extent that those words alone mean anything. But among the fundamental tenets of terp philosophy is the idea that women are incapable of actual love or loyalty, and any woman who believes that has been abused and gaslit into self-hatred. In addition, the subtext implication that terps are ‘the best men’ is just irrational. Terps, almost by definition, are men who have been unsuccessful at getting or maintaining relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 07:35 PM
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Man: ‘men are better at communicating than women.’ Same man: (leaps to completely irrational, hysterical extremes, including on topics that weren’t even remotely brought up, when slightly challenged about his ability to read obvious body language).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 07:31 PM
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Some men: ‘I’ll fuck anything that moves, therefore women have an easier time getting relationships.’ Subtext: ‘the only point of a relationship is sex.’ Same dudes: ‘why doesn’t anyone want a relationship with me!?’
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 07:29 PM
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IDK about them, but I believe that. A lot of men openly admit to lying to women to get into their pants, and dishonesty and manipulation is a huge part of terp practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 05:21 AM
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‘Red pill women’ is self-hatred, pure and simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 05:19 AM
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(Preemptively accuses opponents of ad-hominems) (Proceeds to argue almost exclusively in as-hominems).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 05:18 AM
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Looooot of projection in there.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 05:17 AM
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To all the dudes expressing doubt: studies have shown that a woman speaking like 1/3 of the time is seen by men as her ‘dominating’ the conversation
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 05:16 AM
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There are absolutely memes and fiction about men not communicating, your ignorance of same notwithstanding. Also, a dude not gaf about reading a woman’s facial expressions, or other nonverbal communications, != that woman being deceitful or non-communicative.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 05:06 AM
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‘No strings sex’ != ‘dating.’
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 05:01 AM
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Same/same for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 05:00 AM
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snort There is a large subset of men who find it morally acceptable to lie to a woman to get into her pants, or even just to get out of a discussion. The fact that men can’t be bothered to read the clear emotions on women’s faces does not make women more deceitful than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 05:00 AM
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She wouldn’t have said so. She opposed transness as a concept, in fact. But yeah, I think she would have been a lot happier if she could have made herself believe that it was ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 01:35 AM
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Both men and women want the best possible partner they can get, including one who is superior to them if possible, but different people prioritize different metrics. Tradcons prioritize male wealth and female youth/health/beauty, especially older generations. Younger generations prioritize other factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 10:33 PM
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Sounds like a clear-cut case of a non-self-accepting trans man with identity issues. She did not accept transitioning as a real option for anyone, including herself, despite her experience. She also had a history of intractable depression, and admitted herself to a psych ward for treatment before her death.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 09:44 PM
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Nowhere near as much as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 02:43 AM
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I read her book. Did you? And no, that wasn’t why she killed herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 02:33 AM
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What you described is not the experience of any woman I have ever known.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 02:32 AM
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Where is this amazing fantasy world?😂
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 01:44 AM
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There’s a weird mix of humanity and ‘girls bad’ in your post. Most of it is true, but this idea that women only have nefarious reasons for anything is disappointing in the context of the rest of it. The real secret is that men and women are very, very similar. If women were raised like men are raised, we’d be mostly just like men; if men were raised the way women are raised, they’d be mostly just like women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 05:08 PM
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So you’re saying…what? Women should pity-fuck autists as a kind of sexual affirmative action?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 01:45 AM
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There was no question. Your response was basically, ‘nuh-uh, you’re shallow!’ That does not require a response. There is no culture on the planet that does not care about hygiene and self-maintenance. Unless you have a better argument than a pure assertion of denial, this argument is not worth pursuing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 01:02 AM
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Tell me you’re autistic without telling me. You don’t have to care about these things, but you do have to accept that most of humanity does, and that you’re not better than everyone else for it. If you want to have relationships with those people, anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 08:35 PM
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Basic hygeine is not ‘shallow.’
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 12:08 AM
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Not at all. Anecdotally, a lot of women feel like they loose computation power during and for several years after pregnancy; there are a couple of threads on Reddit with women saying that they feel like they’ve lost 15 points or more. We also know, on brain scans, that women experience significant remodeling and loss of brain tissue during pregnancy, and that around 4 points is the average difference. If the difference shows up at around the time women start to have kids in significant numbers, …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 02:07 AM
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There are plenty of women who’ve had kids by that age.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 01:24 AM
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Technically correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 09:26 PM
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Argument from personal incredulity!= ‘the room.’
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 09:26 PM
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Personal experience of myself and pretty much all women
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 09:13 PM
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On retrospect, it probably has to do with the loss and remodeling of brain mass that accompanies pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 09:12 PM
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80% of men think that cargo shorts and a wrinkled tshirt that doesn’t smell too bad are acceptable date wear.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 07:06 PM
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Classic ad-hominem.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 07:46 PM
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The current moron in chief is the opposite of intelligent, measured, steadfast, or unemotional. He is a paragon of vice, including stupidity.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 07:11 PM
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Why would younger women have an advantage that older generations do not? That doesn’t make any sense
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 07:06 PM
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That does not contradict what I just said. More men are geniuses, and more men are idiots. It also does not acknowledge that ‘genius’ is not a necessary, or even the most helpful, qualification to get one elected to office in a democracy, much less into other positions of power, nor does it acknowledge that female geniuses (eg, Marilyn Vos Savant) do exist, just in smaller numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 06:26 PM
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That does not jibe with everything I have ever heard on the topic, nor with my personal experience. For example: https://igorjovanovic.com/iq-intelligence-men-vs-women/
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 06:24 PM
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Women and men have the same statistical average IQ; women have lower statistical variability, meaning that there are both more male than female geniuses, and more male than female idiots. As for ‘swayed by emotion,’ making that claim with the current cantaloupe in office is laughable.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 04:56 AM
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‘Wanting sex with no other commitment’ != ‘loving unconditionally.’
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 09:40 PM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 01:32 AM
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It has happened to every single woman I know that she was creeped on by men her father’s age before the age of 18. It does not follow that all men are pedophiles.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 06:59 PM
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1)slovenly losing interest due to repeated bad behavior isn’t what the ick is. 2)post hoc error. The sun does not rise because the rooster crowed first, and OP did not lose interest because he cried first.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 07:24 PM
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I’m sure it’s true that some women will get the ick from that. Everyone’s an individual, and we all get ick from different things. It’s not true that any or all women would get the ick from men opening up.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 07:13 PM
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Tate and dread are absolutely terp, manosphere things.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 07:09 PM
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Same reason men who claim to want ‘good women’ go for gold diggers, home breakers, crazy bitches, and trophy wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 02:14 AM
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Doctors are also insanely busy, residents- the lowest-paid versions of doctors- especially so. Proof: https://www.womensurgeons.org/gender-equity-toolkit#:~:text=Female%20surgeons%20earn%208%25%20less,of%20clinical%20and%20research%20productivity. Proof: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38726676/#article-details
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 02:06 AM
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Except that it’s not. You can get into finance with a bachelor’s degree. The reason they make a lot of money is that they’re in jobs whose entire, pure razon d’etre is to make money. Logging and crab fishing are, iirc, the two most dangerous jobs in the United States. My cousin was killed when a piece of logging equipment collapsed on him.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 02:01 AM
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That was well-documented an thorough. Terps will be in here accusing your sources of bias, and will completely forget about it in a couple of weeks. :/
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 06:07 AM
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I’m a registered medical laboratory scientist, not a teacher. However, women are constantly told, regardless of the job, that the intrinsic rewards of the job should be enough to compensate for the job not paying enough. Nurses are told not to bargain for better staffing or pay because it’s ‘greedy’ or they’re ‘just lazy.’ Back when I was a phlebotomist, I once found a nurse crying in the med room because she was so overworked and overwhelmed with high-acuity patients that she was afraid she was…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 06:18 PM
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I didn’t say ‘getting a cold.’ I said, ‘constantly sick.’ Jobs are not compensated based on danger. If they were, loggers and crab fishers would be the highest paid professionals in America, not investment bankers who basically do electronic gambling with OPM.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 06:06 PM
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Misogyny is only a tiny fraction of toxic masculinity. But sure, you don’t like the term. That’s fine. Can you agree that feeling the need to perform masculinity, regardless of what one actually likes or how one actually feels, is bad in sum for men? That it’s bad for men to feel like they cannot admit any weakness, bad for them to feel like they can’t seek help, medical or otherwise? That the cult of total independence is making Americans in general, and men especially, lonely and weaker as ind…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 08:29 AM
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Tell that to the men spreading the meme.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 05:05 AM
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Re-read what you said, and my response to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 05:05 AM
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We all have downtimes. This was 2 minutes of fun in a pre-op ambulatory surgery department. Cool your jets there, Sandra Dee. As for why toxic masculinity makes men feel emasculated, part of the necessary performance of toxic masculinity requires never acknowledging that one is sick or weak, and especially never acknowledging, much less asking for or accepting, that one needs help. Much less help from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 05:04 AM
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Sometimes the criteria for ‘hard to find’ is ‘sociopathic enough to not GAF how the company’s actions in pursuit of financial gain affect the customers, employees, and world at large.’ I disagree that construction is that much more dangerous than teaching. A construction worker could have an industrial injury, but people who work with kids are basically constantly sick, sometimes severely so. And the reason that substitutes are often unqualified is that a lot of schools are treated as basically …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 01:11 AM
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And you’ve - what- changed one diaper? None? Lost zero nights of sleep? Had zero kids vomit all over you, poop on your carpets, rhapsodize about something completely u interesting for 4 hours and whine if you’re not paying attention…day after day after day? Never had to chase one into the street to keep it from getting squashed? Roofing is immediately uncomfortable, but long-term pleasant. You get to do real, good, hands-on work that you can take pride in, with other adults, that will last for d…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 01:08 AM
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I don’t think that most people would rather be full-time child care workers, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 07:36 PM
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Most of us don’t. Likewise, we don’t feel like single childless women are obligated to date single dads.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 06:47 PM
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snort and you’re just in denial that taking care of kids is harder than roofing. No one is reported to the equivalent of CPS for being a bad roofer.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 05:49 PM
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Men think taking care of kids is easy because 1)men don’t GAF about their own kids, and 2)they only do it when it’s easy, and 3)they don’t do it full time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 05:16 PM
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Most straight women do not have the majority of their expenses covered by a male partner. What fucking world do you live in? And yes, stably coupled people are more financially secure because that’s part of what stable coupling does, regardless of the genders involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 07:42 AM
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Being a roofer is not more skilled than raising a child. And I would not rather be trapped with a toddler for whom not shitting his own pants is a major accomplishment, than working on a roof.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 07:41 AM
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Toxic masculinity is a toxic gender role, and yes, some men absolutely feel emasculated when seeking medical care. Some of them are absolute fucking jackasses in the hospital because of it. Others roll with it, and everyone loves them because of it. I’ve seen young nurses giggling and happily perching in the knee of a 90-something day surgery patient, because he was just the most charming, easy to get along with, wonderful patient, and then there are men who sneer, insult, and threaten to kill t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 05:51 AM
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Sure. And teenagers occasionally helping to babysit would be the equivalent value, not adult family members watching the kids on the regular, reading them bedtime stories, treating their injuries, staying home from work when they’re sick, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 05:47 AM
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snort ‘The world isn’t fair, so it’s ok for me to by a sociopath.’
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 05:45 AM
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You think working out makes up for not wiping your own ass?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 05:44 AM
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Yes. I’m not currently an athlete, but I have been one in the past; erging until we vomited was not uncommon in crew, and crying in the dressing room was not uncommon in aikido. And still, I did those things because I enjoyed them. They were fun. And they were a fuckton easier than organic chemistry or dealing with dying patients.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 04:27 AM
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Is vs ought
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 04:24 AM
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Given that I was about 12 at the time, no: I did not do everything involved in the roofing. It was the adults who did 90% of it, but the swarm of cousins helping to pull the old roof off didn’t hurt the process. It’s easy to find other sources for the claim I made earlier; I chose a popular press article because most people read at the popular press level, but honestly manosphere people have a tendency to ad-hom anything they disagree with, and since you seem not to be an exception to that, I’m …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 04:24 AM
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Women are penalized in the workplace for asking for raises, both by their bosses and by others. Edit: changed the source, because the first link was too messy. As for ‘getting family members to watch the kids,’ why is it acceptable to ask a family member to watch kids for free, but not to help re-roof a house? I’ve worked on the latter; it really was not that difficult. Hot, physical labor, to be sure, but not complicated and done in a short period of time with all of the guys and teens in the f…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 01:53 AM
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That’s just not the case. You might have 500 men who want to have no-strings sex with you, though, which is something that most women don’t want.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 11:26 PM
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There is a lot of disagreement on ‘anyone can do it’ 😂 The limit based on how much women earn doing other work makes sense, as does the fact that women are socially penalized for not being ‘nice,’ eg, asking for higher pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 11:25 PM
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When women move into a field, the relative compensation decreases. When men move into a field, the relative compensation increases.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 08:19 PM
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When women move into a field, they pay in that field goes down. When men move into a field, the pay in that field goes up. Child care is extremely, immediately needed and necessary for capitalism in this country to work. It is notoriously difficult to get a kid into a good preschool, and yet the workers in these preschools are still underpaid.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 08:18 PM
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1)Women who are naturally beautiful at least than 1% of the population. That’s why fashion models bring in the big bucks, just like professional athletes. 2)applying makeup well, and knowing what looks good on one’s face, is a learned skill. I know that partly because it’s a skill I do not have. It takes practice and learning, and it’s often uncomfortable to greater or lesser degrees. 3)women’s high fashion is often uncomfortable to crippling over time. My grandmother had Barbie feet, permanentl…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 07:38 PM
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Men put way more effort into looking good than women do. Hahahhahahhahaahhahahhahahahahhahahahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 07:27 PM
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Women don’t pursue lower-paying careers; the careers that women pursue are socially devalued and more poorly compensated. Raising and teaching young children is not less valuable to society than building houses or replacing roofs, but daycare workers and kindergarten teachers make less per hour than construction workers or roofers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 07:26 PM
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This is a big part of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 07:23 PM
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Some of them do. Some of them are. My brother is a super involved dad, and he has 50% custody of his daughters and there was a 50% division of assets in his divorce. He didn’t realize how much work the kids were before the divorce, though, and both he and his ex had affairs. His ex also had anger management problems. The men who don’t do that were raised not to, by parents and in a culture of ‘men are men and women are women,’ and often men are considered emasculated if they do anything ‘feminin…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 07:22 PM
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This At a bare minimum, I would insist on addenda requiring condoms, requiring either party (if positive for any STIs and withholding that information deliberately) to be responsible for the medical treatment of the other party if they acquire an STI, for either party to be responsible for 1/2 of the cost of an abortion, should an accidental pregnancy occur, prohibiting strangulation, S&M, anal, or any further sexual activity after the utterance of the words ‘no’ or ‘stop.’
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 06:55 AM
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True. There are rare women who say they don’t think women should do anything to staunch/clean menstrual blood, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 03:40 AM
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There are manospherians actively saying that a man wiping his own ass after he poops is gay, and that shitstains on underwear are the sign of a ‘real man.’ I kid you not.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 07:29 PM
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It’s not that we want a guy who’s ’not into us,’ because a guy who’s super into you is sort of a prerequisite for good sex. But it’s that he doesn’t humiliate himself or lose his own self-respect to get into your good graces. As with everything else, there is a balance.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 07:18 PM
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Yeahhhh no. But sure. IDC enough to argue with you, so if you want to keep it up, you’ll get the last word.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 08:42 PM
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1)You have a really delusional view of the life the average woman leads and how she gets her money. 2)Some ‘passport bros’ are sincerely a step up from the men a woman could date in her home country- if she is extremely poor, then a career as a western guy’s trophy wife might be enough of a step up to make an LBH worth it. If her family or community is extremely patriarchal, then a guy who is reactionary by western standards can be a white knight to her. The couple can make a happy family that i…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 08:58 AM
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Quote: “Thing is, there’s an almost equal number of men and women in the world. Allowing for same sex and a proportion of people not wanting to date, there’s still probably roughly equal numbers of singles in most urban areas.”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 06:20 AM
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no single thing guarantees being sexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 01:13 AM
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I've always found that men dancing (well) is incredibly physically sexy, and also men running together in a group (men having strong friendships is sexy to me, so maybe the latter is an extension of that). I know I'm not alone in that, because I once found myself in a group of about 5-6 women who had been caught up watching the men's soccer team at my university warming up by running around the field together. Doing anything well, that took skill and practice to learn. Standing up straight (not …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 01:07 AM
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You said that women are more selective, but started with the claim that there are roughly equal numbers of men and women looking. I don’t think that there are.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 05:49 PM
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Not entirely relevant, but Saudi is right about the talks over Ukraine: Ukraine should have been included. Saudi was right on this, and the US was wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 07:48 AM
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I am literally not defending my country. I’m saying over and over that I agree that it is bad. Both the planning and the execution were taped. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-49826905.amp
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 11:15 PM
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Terps are grown men with the toddler’s concept of adulthood, that they should be able to do whatever they want, whenever they want, to whomever they want. Girls are outperforming men in school. Young women are out performing men at work. They’re outearning men until they have kids, at which point their earnings crash because they’re the one taking responsibility for 90% of the child care even in most committed relationships. The reason they’re doing these things is because, at some point, boys a…
/r/ExRedPill16/02/25 06:29 PM
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There’s an audio recording of him being dismembered and, iirc, there were specialists flown in to that embassy with bone saws and other surgical equipment. And, again, I am not defending my country’s actions (except to say that rape, while horrific, is still less bad than dismemberment while alive, and America is not responsible for those people’s families “honor” killing them for the “crime” of having been tortured while female). I’m well aware that torture is bad, voted against people advocati…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 06:04 PM
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It explains why there are more men than women looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 05:57 PM
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Waterboarding is not comparable to dismembering someone alive for annoying the prince. Sorry, not sorry. Even if it were, that would not excuse Saudi for it. States that don’t have extradition treaties, even for crimes like murder, should have more strict limitations on who can visit and under what conditions. WRT rape: https://www.state.gov/report/custom/a944d3578a/ https://www.international-divorce.com/Saudi-Women-Family-Law.htm https://newlinesmag.com/reportage/saudi-arabias-houses-of-horror-…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 02:37 AM
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In reverse order: Snowden fled to Russia to avoid investigation and probable imprisonment for *espionage.* I'm talking about Jamal Khashoggi, who was literally *dismembered alive* in a Saudi *embassy* for the 'crime' of saying mean things about MBS. And yes, bombing weddings is bad. That does not make torturing someone to death, on purpose, less bad. As for what the murderous driver has to do with anything, it's that Saudi won't extradite a man who literally murdered a young woman. The story I h…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 11:41 PM
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Men almost never ‘simply state their preference.’
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 07:54 PM
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You might try addressing what she actually said, rather than the straw man that you wish she had said.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 07:52 PM
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Idk. I’ve heard first-hand accounts from travelers who were assaulted and then charged when they reported it, rather than defended, and there was a Saudi national who killed a woman by driving recklessly with his car in my city; he fled to the airport, and was never sent back to face justice for vehicular homicide. And there’s also, of course, the fact that MBS had a reporter dismembered alive in an embassy for criticizing him.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 02:25 PM
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There is a lot of shit they class as ‘infidelity’ instead of ‘rape’ or ‘sexual assault.’ Would you report a rape if it meant you’d be charged with infidelity, unless there were 3 (male) witnesses who would testify that you weren’t willing?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 08:42 AM
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The abortion rate would increase slightly, at least where it’s legal. Probably not a bad thing, but definitely a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 07:54 AM
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They make up the minority of people paying child support because the way make up the majority of people doing most of the child care.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 07:52 AM
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Are they allowed to drive alone? Allowed to leave the country alone? Allowed to do anything in public, in mixed company, unsupervised?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 07:51 AM
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Saudi Arabia also claims that there is no rape, no SA, and no DV. And the only ‘problem with young people’ is the young women who try to flee the country, and are brought back and imprisoned in insane asylums by their families.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 07:49 AM
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Sounds kind of like… marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 07:47 AM
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1)men don’t consider themselves monogamous/nailed down in a relationship until long after the woman does, so there are more men open to dating than women. 2)more old men look to date young women than the converse. 3)more married men than women cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 07:35 AM
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People who use the OKC data to argue for “female hypergamy” always conveniently leave out the part that the same data shows women messaging median men more and males messaging high-tier women more, regardless of stated ranking.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 07:33 AM
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https://news.gallup.com/poll/609914/women-become-liberal-men-mostly-stable.aspx https://www.americansurveycenter.org/newsletter/are-conservative-men-struggling-to-get-dates/ https://theconversation.com/the-right-stuff-the-new-conservative-dating-app-which-has-unsurprisingly-failed-to-attract-women-192012 https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2020/04/24/most-democrats-who-are-looking-for-a-relationship-would-not-consider-dating-a-trump-voter/ https://www.newsweek.com/majority-women-wont-date-tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 07:25 AM
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There are a lot more very liberal women than very conservative women, and somewhat more conservative men than liberal men, and conservative men tend to think that physical hotness is more important than philosophical compatibility, so sheer statistics will have conservative men pursuing liberal and very liberal women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 03:31 AM
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If it comes down to it, testimony: other parents from the park saying that the dad was always the one with the kid. The pediatrician saying it was always the dad at appointments. Etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 10:01 PM
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And vice-versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 07:17 PM
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(Posts openly contemptuous, misogynistic screed) ‘Women don’t want me because I’m short/ugly.’
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 07:16 PM
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It’s what OP’s article said.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 07:12 PM
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I said ‘primary parent’ rather than ‘mother’ because I agree that sometimes it’s the dad. And yeah, people should be treated the same for doing the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 07:11 PM
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Man who doesn’t parent but thinks men should get custody anyway: ‘Spending time with your own kid is as hard as buying a house without money.’
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 07:09 PM
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Child support/ spousal support awarded generally are less of a proportion of a man’s income than what he contributed to the family prior to the divorce, so his personal disposable income increases.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 04:00 PM
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Why do you think it’s unfair for child services to be focused on the parent who is the primary caregiver for the child/children? And there’s an easy solution for men if they think so: spend equal time/equal career sacrifice on the kids during the marriage, and then ask for 50/50 custody after divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 03:58 PM
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Sooo basically the same ‘proven false accusation’ rate as other crimes. Quelle surprise.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 05:51 AM
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It’s pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 07:28 AM
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My husband and I both ignore Valentine’s Day. We hate performative displays. Neither of us will get the other anything. On the rare occasions where we have disagreements, the person who cares the most about the topic usually ends up getting the last word.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 07:41 PM
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I occasionally convince myself, for half a minute, that most of the men on this forum are the deliberately crazy sock puppets of normal men, to convince women of how great they have ot when they get someone sane.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 04:06 AM
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It might take a generation or two, but eventually there will be no more shame to it than porn use now. Some communities will have moral rules about it, and there will be men who get so addicted anyway that they go on rampages in sexbot factories to 'destroy the temptation.' The thing about AI and porn, airbrushing in general, is that it has the ability to not only be 'better than the real thing,' It has the ability to be 'better than you even knew you wanted, or even knew could exist.' Hell, hal…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 02:19 AM
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No, I'm really not. I didn't even apply to an Ivy League school because I was not interested in an Ivy League school. I'm not interested in hob-nobbing with rich sociopaths. I have no interest in 'business.' I applied, and was accepted into, but decided not to matriculate into, Cal Poly. I'm glad you got into a school that values you, but you need to abandon the pretense that it is the be-all and end-all of education, and that you're going to get respect just by virtue of having attended that sc…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 07:36 PM
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FWIW, I argue online to blow off steam😜
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 07:07 PM
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I know nothing about the institution he mentioned; my point was not about that institution’s admission stats, but about Ivy League ones. If you falsely puff up your applications, you make it seem like you’re way more selective than you actually are.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 07:06 PM
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snort not so much. If you have to be a legacy to get in, then you’re not getting in on the merits, are you? If an A essay today is what would have been a C essay in the past, then that’s not academic excellence, is it? You know who’s turning out great work? MIT. Berkeley. Cal Tech. Yale and Harvard are indeed still turning out some good work, because they do still attract some good students and their endowments do allow them to hire some good teachers, but they’re mostly running on reputation, n…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 07:04 PM
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If only 100 people even bother to apply every year, then an acceptance rate of 50% is meaninlesss. American ivy leagues deliberately encourage everyone to apply because 1)there’s an application fee, last I checked, and 2)it puffs up their rejection numbers, making them look more selective than they are. This is so well known in academia I can only guess that you’re deliberately not mentioning it in order to make your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 06:23 PM
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Not any more. Harvard et. all have been inflating grades and letting in classes full of legacy admissions for decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 06:19 PM
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Most of the women in this country who are married, are married to men who make $65K or less. The difference is that they also work, because it’s extremely difficult to have a secure life on that, especially if you have kids. Women from other countries might be willing to be housewives on that income if they’re used to living in poverty, but social inequality is more important to people than numerically wealth; if they live here, they’re not going to want to be the only impoverished family on the…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 06:18 PM
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It’s possible to admit that someone has occasional good qualities (like physical attractiveness) while still hating them. That doesn’t mean that you want to date them, it means that you’re capable of disinterested/objective analysis - and lack of interest is the true opposite of love, not hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 06:13 PM
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FWIW, a lot of the guys on social media who say that they’re “getting” all of those women are hiring models to pose with them on someone else’s car. Someone who sleeps around that much is rarer than a supermodel.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 06:09 PM
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The Victoria’s Secret models aren’t even what women look like. Have you ever watched one of those ‘before and after’ retouching videos?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 06:07 PM
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…for the students who were sexually active at all, which was not all of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 02:11 AM
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I doubt that claim. Or, rather, it might be the average, but I doubt it’s anywhere near the median.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 01:55 AM
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That claim is not supported by any other source that I am looking at, and as a non-subscriber, I can’t see their source. https://enagoski.medium.com/these-graphs-tell-a-shocking-story-about-the-rampant-college-hookup-culture-38a0ef1b0af8 https://goaskalice.columbia.edu/answered-questions/how-many-people-do-college-students-sleep-average https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nsfg/key_statistics/n.htm
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 01:54 AM
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Source: your ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 01:11 AM
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Firstly, no: young women don’t need sex with men as much as young men need sex with women. Part of this is birth control; I had a hormonal IUD that I left in for years beyond when it should have come out, because 1)it stopped my periods, and 2)it killed my libido, both of which were exceptionally convenient for me at the time. Part of it is that, even when women are horny, they can usually do better by themselves than they can with some random man. I was content alone. I was celibate for close t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 01:11 AM
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And you wonder why women don’t like you🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 09:43 AM
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There’s definitely an impact of enculturation. In some places, women are dramatically less socially dominant as a class, and they definitely show more of the traits associated with social submission more than men do. Likewise, men show more of the traits associated with social dominance in those groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 08:59 AM
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Women and men are not that different. If you don’t like men, chances are you will also not like women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 10:10 PM
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Party girls are not a majority of women, but sure. If your post is exclusive to the nightclub/bar type, it makes more sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 08:00 PM
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1)you’re assuming that she likes casual sex and dating. Most of the women I know hate/d dating. 2)you’re assuming her friends are all single. 3)you’re assuming that you’re competing with other men; you’re far more likely to be competing with her solitude and peace. 4)you’re assuming that she doesn’t want to share locations so that she can see other men; it’s more likely that she doesn’t want to because either she or one of her friends has been stalked in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 07:09 PM
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OP didn’t even mention hair loss
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 04:51 PM
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‘Men should have the emotional self-regulatory capacity of a functioning adult’ !=. ‘Women can’t handle man’s emotions. ‘
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 02:50 PM
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She’s happy alone. Will she be happier with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 03:28 AM
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Until the rest of the country revolts.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 06:19 PM
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Wasn’t the initial claim ‘women are the majority of serial killers’? And, actually, a lot of these priests could function heteronormatively. Many of the victims were little girls. There are a LOT of men, especially on fora like this, who are quite open that the only reason they don’t have sex with girls is that it’s illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 05:33 AM
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And also they’re expected to be celibate, which doesn’t help. And I don’t think the claim that ‘the majority of pedophiles are priests’ is accurate, and that would be the equivalent to what you’re saying about nurses.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 03:12 AM
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So… only people with bachelor’s degrees? Only people with STEM bachelor’s degrees? If the latter, you’re going to end up with a pretty atheist government (speaking as a biology grad, the most atheistic of the sciences). If the former, you’re going to end up with an atheistic, extremely liberal government.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 01:30 AM
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That’s literally what you said. If it’s a red herring , you’re the one who threw it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 11:40 PM
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…what? You’re saying that men who attack other men can’t be held accountable for their own actions. It’s bullshit. It’s like you’re basing your entire worldview on some poorly-written 70’s drama rather than real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 10:42 PM
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Yeah not so much. You’re basically saying that men have no agency. You’d have a better point if you were talking about a trained attack dog given a command, but I hold men to higher standards than dogs.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 09:33 PM
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There's definitely a disney/wedding industrial complex that tells young girls that their wedding is/should be the happiest day of their life, and that everything will be 'happily ever after' if they get that right. The more they accept that trope, the more likely they are to want a 'perfect' wedding, and the more likely they are to hit the brick wall of reality face-first. I think people who elope have more realistic expectation about relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 05:21 AM
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What I’m thinking when I hear this story, is that the women suddenly have to start thinking, ‘oh, shit, another het guy who’s pretending to be my friend in order to get into my pants.’ I have had het guy friends who reassured me, over and over, that they were not trying to get into my pants- who were absolutely trying to get into my pants. At some point, we stop believing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 01:49 AM
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Yes, that’s why women shooting or stabbing men who turn them down happens semi-regularly. Oh, wait….
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 01:45 AM
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Quite a few. Are you going to clam that hospice nurses go into hospice work because they’re disproportionately psychopaths? Because most of the hospice nurses I know, male and female, seem like pretty decent people.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 01:09 AM
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People who marry young are waaaay more likely to divorce than those who marry later.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 07:06 PM
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OP is not blaming all men for everything. Re-read what they said.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 06:57 PM
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Being on a pedestal = ‘you can’t move, or you’ll fall off the pedestal.’ Love bombing = ‘you can do no wrong.’
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 06:32 PM
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TL,DR: OP has never actually asked a woman what they dislike about dating apps, and simply applied his existing terp world view to speculation about that topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 03:35 AM
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I think they’re as likely, if not more likely, to have extra-pair sex, but they’re more likely to do so above the board, with a partner who is also open.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 07:30 PM
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Being poly/open is not the same thing as cheating, and I say that as someone who is naturally monogamous. I made it clear when I was dating my now-husband that I was monogamous and that I was looking for someone who was also monogamous, because I did not want to have that conversation later. The problem is when you get poly people who are trying to be conservative, who think that everyone is actually poly but most are just better at either self-control or hiding their affairs. They’re going to e…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 06:49 PM
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Liberal women probably have more sexual partners, and are probably more likely to be open to ‘ethical non-monogamy’ or poly relationships, but that’s not the same as cheating. I strongly doubt that a liberal woman in a committed, monogamous relationship is more likely to cheat than a conservative woman in the same type of relationship, because liberalism takes a harder line against non-consent (ie, violating your partner’s trust) and lying. Conservatives, especially Christians, have the whole ‘J…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 06:41 PM
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Citation needed
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 06:37 PM
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I was going to write something snarky, but this is a way better response in both likely effectiveness and in humanity.
/r/ExRedPill14/01/25 06:35 PM
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Again: argument from personal incredulity.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 10:31 PM
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You’re basically asserting that women are more likely to cheat because you, personally, think they’re more likely to cheat. It’s basically an argument from personal incredulity. No, I believe this due to research. Bullshit. I’m the only one who has voted any research in this area. infection rate would have parity if these men and women were promiscuous with each other. 🤦🏻‍♀️ No. You’re ignoring both physiology and math. First, an infected man is more likely to pass on infection to an uninfected …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 10:31 PM
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Again, I was not associating ‘all men’ with Brock Turner. As for the lack of a father figure, how about we start by ending the excuses men give for not taking the visitation that they are already granted?! And also, I even giving a dad primary custody isn’t going to do jack shit if he just hires a nanny and still ignores his kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 10:15 PM
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Women are more likely to use poison, true. But I still don’t think that your statement that ‘women are a majority of serial killers’ has been supported.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 10:12 PM
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Everyone needs to, unless all they care about is hotness.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 09:04 AM
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This kind of betrays a terp attitude that mental/psychological compatibility does not matter in finding a mate, only similar levels of hotness (which can, obviously, be seen externally).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 03:10 AM
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You tell yourself that, but I met my husband in OKC 10 years ago, and that’s exactly why I went on OLD. Random strangers approaching based on physical attraction are a crap shoot.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 06:37 PM
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The reason that dating apps are a thing in the first place is that they allow one to pre-screen candidates. Most women do not have good success with dudes ‘just asking them out.’ Nobody wants a Trump supporter, or a big game hunter, or a dude with balls on his truck, and those guys are just as likely to ask you out as any normal guy. You can screen for it on an app.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 07:17 AM
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That’s not how I usually see it used, though. I see police officers upholding the law described as ‘simps,’ for example, sometimes even when the victim isn’t a woman. Or anyone being polite to someone else. Or any man being considerate towards his wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 07:09 AM
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Well, I would agree that being a doormat is not good for anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 08:25 PM
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https://vawnet.org/material/no-safe-place-sexual-assault-lives-homeless-women
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 08:21 PM
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Nah, you’re right to a large extent. Kids just aren’t that fulfilling for most people, especially with the helicopter parenting and investment required nowadays, and people just don’t want to do it. There are people who find taking care of kids the most fulfilling and wonderful thing in their lives, and if there’s any genetic component to that at all, those genes are going to swiftly out-populate other alleles in the population. In a few generations, we’ll be back to worrying about over-populati…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 08:01 PM
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Because, too often, it’s men who want a mommy/bangmaid whining that no supermodels want to be their mommy/bangmaid. You want to talk about how dating apps absolutely suck? Granted! That’s part of why there are so few women on dating apps! You want to whine that only 10% of men on dating apps get all of the attention, when there are 10 men for every 1 woman, and chalk that up to ‘female entitlement’? That just makes you bad at math.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 07:54 PM
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You’re implying that’s common. I doubt it’s any more common than fathers or stepdads abusing their own children. Also, women who are homeless are pretty much all raped on a regular basis. If the mom is about to lose her home and has no skills (like, she got married too young, just like my mom), and her husband wanted hen to be a SAHM, (which was what my mom wanted too), and then when he cheats and gives her an STI, or leaves her and the kids high and dry for a younger version, or is a chronic dr…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 07:44 PM
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Again, the mother is the mother be who stayed and held it together as best she could. Sex work is something that women do because it is one of the highest-paid, unskilled jobs open to them. See Les Miserables for a paradigmatic example.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 06:39 PM
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So… you’re saying that a man who keeps up his own relationships is unhealthy?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 06:37 PM
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You’re basically asserting that women are more likely to cheat because you, personally, think they’re more likely to cheat. It’s basically an argument from personal incredulity. Women carry more STIs because the evidence of them can remain masked for quite a while before the woman or anyone else knows that she’s infected. Men transmit more STIs, because even though they show symptoms faster, biologically it’s far easier to transmit a disease when you insert an appendage into a warm, moist enviro…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 06:34 PM
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I’m familiar with the ‘angels of death’ thing, but, like… there are half a dozen of them? A couple of whom are men? I don’t think that makes ‘women a majority of serial killers.’
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 08:55 AM
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Stats on cheating: https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/infidelity-statistics-us-tops-the-cheating-charts-while-31-of-affairs-involve-a-co-worker-302241988.html https://www.mcooperlaw.com/infidelity-stats-2024/ https://www.shadowinvestigationsltd.ca/who-cheats-more-men-or-women/ Note that I’m NOT saying that 13% or 16%, or whatever, of women cheating is ok. If you ask for monogamy, you give monogamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 08:42 AM
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The ‘damage’ done by ‘single parents’ is directly proportional to the economic hit those parents take after a divorce, and the continued presence or absence of functional second parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 08:26 AM
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Parental alienation is the best way for a parent to lose custody. https://blog.marble.co/child-custody/how-parental-alienation-can-backfire-in-child-custody/ https://www.family-institute.org/sites/default/files/pdfs/csi_rowan_talking_badly_about_your_coparent.pdf https://www.lawyersnlaws.com/keeping-a-child-away-from-the-other-parent-can-backfire.html Etc From what I’ve heard about Brad and Angelina, that doesn’t necessarily have anything to do with anything Angelina said to her kids. And no, I …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 08:21 AM
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https://ifstudies.org/blog/who-cheats-more-the-demographics-of-cheating-in-america Conservative source. And nearly every source I see, other than my own family, suggests that one of the primary reasons women divorce is that they realize that they will have hours less work to do every week. That their husband was effectively a large child. If you and your spouse both work 40 hours a week, but you come home and crash in front of the tv/video games, whatever recreational activity, but your spouse c…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 08:08 AM
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It’s hard to say. I’m on amicable terms with him now, but he’ll never be my dad because he split when I was 4. My dad is the man who raised me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 08:04 AM
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Misandry is civilly enshrined in our institutions, especially the court system. No, it really is not. Giving primary custody to the primary caretaker is done because it has been seen as being better for the kids. Now some states are going default 50/50, and frankly that’s usually far better for the moms than it is for the dads or the kids. …it is socially accepted and celebrated by friends, family, and community. Partial agree. It’s seen socially as difficult to impossible for women to actually …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 08:00 AM
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The woman he was ready to die for… sigh Ready to die for? But not to change a diaper for? Not to take half of the long nights for? Not to pick up his own dirty clothes for? ….has said that his life is not worth enough for her, (usually after an extended period of infidelity). Bullshit. Men cheat more than women do at every age after the early 20’s, and men statistically move on after divorce far more quickly than women do. He often loses his family… Not if he asks for visitation …his home… You m…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 07:43 AM
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I don’t know at what point he started, but now he’s in AA and calls himself “an alcoholic,” so presumably there’s something biochemical there.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 07:22 AM
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Responsibility of Choice: Women are arguably even more culpable because they pick the men they let into their lives. snort Sure, and men are… just passive in this? This is a pathetic deflection of responsibility. Choosing the wrong person, or being deceived by someone, happens to all of us, male and female. Most of us have several trial relationships before we find the person we want to stay with. a) abandonment & ostracism is mutually exclusive: Most men would not do what your father did, unles…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 06:52 AM
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Statistically, women who accuse their exes of abuse, or who are accused of parental alienation, are more likely to lose custody than to gain it. Men almost always get more custody when they ask for it. The issue is that a lot of them don’t want it, or only want it so that they won’t have to pay as much child support. FWIW, I am 100% in favor of default 50/50 states, in part because it’s usually a relief for the mother in question, and because it gives a lot of men quite a wake up call, making th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 07:48 PM
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How does that relate to white knighting or misandry? Also, a woman assaulting a man is often like a kitten assaulting an adult human, unless she has either training or a weapon. That’s not an excuse- a human should have more self-control than a cat- but women do not kill or injure nearly as many men as the converse. I agree that women should be taught to take better care with their hands than they are, and that emotional bullying can be a problem as well. But don’t pretend that the damage of phy…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 07:42 PM
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How was that an example of white knighting or misandry? Also, how does that contradict anything I said?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 07:37 PM
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That’s sounds like laziness, cowardice, and/or incompetence, not ‘white knighting’ or ‘missndry.’ And I fully agree that cops can be those things. How about the guy who had a gun unloaded into his body as he followed cops’ instructions to crawl naked down a hotel hallway, in a case of mistaken identity? Also not misandry. Or the guy who was suffocated by a cop sitting on his chest when he wouldn’t submit quickly enough after selling loose cigarettes? Not misandry. Or the guy who was choked to de…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 07:36 PM
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Being an alcoholic is a pretty fucking big failing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 07:28 PM
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IDEK what you meant by the first sentence. After my mom and father divorced, he split for the other side of the country and disappeared from our lives. We lived in a shack literally right next to the train tracks for… a year? Two? Our mom was working for minimum wage in a fabric store and going to school for nursing. She met my dad, who was a draftsman going to school for engineering, and between the two of them we were able to move to a clean house in a normal neighborhood. Also, I literally sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 07:28 PM
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Feminism is the radical belief that women are people.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 07:17 AM
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You put scare quotes around “feelings” to insinuate that profound misery can be dismissed as irrelevant. I disagree, for all involved. My mom wasn’t great at picking men; she split from my father when I was about 2 or 3, and from my dad when I was in my early teens. If she’d stayed married to my father, our family would have followed his alcoholic ass from town to town every 6 months when his benders go him fired, and I would have been raised in abject poverty and extreme insecurity; if she’d st…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 07:03 AM
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If misandrist/white knight cops existed, sure. I’ve never heard of that actually existing, Hollywood notwithstanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 06:54 AM
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The whole thing. Women = intrinsically untrustworthy and bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 06:53 AM
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Paragraph 2 of the OP
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 02:37 PM
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Statistically, after divorce, women suffer financially and men suffer emotionally. Maybe offer both financial and medical help to both parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 07:06 PM
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I’m not that person. But it’s probably safe to say that all men should seek therapy after divorce and be screened for suicidal ideation and/or violent rage against their ex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 05:25 PM
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If he likes kink and she found out she doesn’t the hard way, then they’re not sexually compatible and he should look for a woman who likes kink. You’re basing your question off of the assumption that ‘wild and crazy sex’ is ‘better sex,’ but it’s not. It’s a flavor. Not everyone likes it. If the thought of never ‘getting’ to try bondage, or whatever, bothers you that much, find a woman who likes bondage, or who is ok with exploring it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 05:23 PM
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“His”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 06:11 AM
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All women should absolutely be screened for postpartum depression in the year(s?) after birth.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 06:09 AM
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1)he apparently groomed her. 2)he’s the one who filed for divorce. 3)sociopaths are very good at fooling people, at least in the short term. It’s part of the diagnosis. 4)people should be able to leave contracts that they have accidentally entered into with sociopaths. 5)when people escape said contracts, they will be happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 06:08 AM
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The case discussed by OP has numerous me commenting that the dude was justified in shooting her because (they erroneously think) she filed for divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 06:05 AM
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Did you miss the part where he’s the one who filed?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 06:03 AM
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If you want that life, find yourself a high-driving surgeon or ED doc and be a SAHH.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 02:02 AM
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😂
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 04:28 AM
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In what way? It seemed pretty clear to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 03:42 AM
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You’re not entirely wrong. There is a LOT that goes into running a house well, especially if a couple is concerned about things like saving money on groceries and fresh, homemade, healthy food. A lot of that goes by the wayside when both people are working, because they just don’t have the time or energy, and knowing that something needs to be done but not having the time and energy to do it is stressful.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 01:40 AM
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Read this forum a bit more. They absolutely do want those things. They won’t say so, won’t acknowledge the hipocrisy, but you absolutely do see men whining about wanting SAHMs but not wanting a women to vet them as a provider, wanting more or full custody of kids but not wanting to sacrifice work, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 06:00 PM
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Yet another thread where men project their own issues onto women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 07:48 AM
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Right, just like men want a woman who works outside the home but also does 95% of the home and child care, who is a virgin but also a rabbit in the bed, a perfect cook and also skinny, ‘takes care of herself’ but not in a way that requires any actual time or income, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 07:04 AM
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Tradcon men: ‘I want a SAHM.’ Also tradcon men: ‘women who are concerned about how much a man makes are unrealistic and/or gold diggers.’ ——- Tradcon men: ‘taking care of a home and a family are a woman’s true calling, and just as valid as paid work.’ Also tradcon men: ‘the money I earn is MY money, and my wife should be grateful for the cushy life I generously gift to her. Also, if she asks for a divorce for any reason, she deserves no alimony and no child support.’ Tradcon men: the woman is na…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 05:54 AM
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No, I agree with you on that. It sucks for the kid, but that’s not the man’s fault. But that’s also not what the original comment said.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 07:48 AM
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Men look their best between 18-30 too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 05:03 AM
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Yes, men have human emotions. And men are still just as responsible for their own actions as anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 04:49 AM
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No, it is not. You don’t get to absolve yourself of responsibility for your own behavior unless you’re a child, literally delusional, or a demented elder. Terps go on and on about how women won’t take responsibility for their own actions, and here y’all are saying that men get an out for literal violence if their feelings get hurt enough. Oh, but this is different.** No, it isn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 11:05 PM
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Only for his own behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 08:49 PM
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Are you dense? I’m not talking about blame.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 07:48 PM
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Soooo yeah. Convenient.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 07:46 PM
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The things I’ve said about statistics are statistics, not MSM talking points. The FBI says that false reporting of rape is similar to false reporting rates for other crimes. I’ve also heard personal stories of women who were badgered into giving up their claim by cops, despite having actually been raped, whose cases went into the ‘false report’ statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 07:45 PM
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I think that both men and women with multiple failed marriages probably have issues that they should deal with via therapy. I didn’t get married until late because I saw my mom go through that, and friends of the family going through it, and parents of friends going through it, and it wasn’t until I saw my sensei’s relationship with his wife that I realized something better really was possible IRL. A lot of married couples, even if they stay together, just don’t like each other very much. I didn…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 07:39 PM
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Yes, I would. And so would you. And you would swear up and down that sacrifice to the Sun God was objectively moral.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 07:07 AM
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100% agree with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 07:03 AM
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sigh I want you to go back through this conversation and look again at whether I am ‘primed to hate everything you say.’
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 07:02 AM
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This isn’t about ‘disagreement.’ It’s about your pretense that women are more emotional than men, any that you can therefore dismiss anything you disagree with as being immaterial compared to your conveniently superior ‘unemotional rationality.’ Here’s the thing. I struggled with the conflict between emotion and rationality a few decades ago. What I eventually realized is that, without emotion, we’d all be catatonic. Emotion is literally what moves us all, men just as much as women. It is the ‘w…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 06:59 AM
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On the contrary. These women are getting sterilized so that they can ‘drive’ as much as they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 02:44 AM
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LOL I fully agree that I love the people in my life more than the non-people😂
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 02:40 AM
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IDK who Ben Hart is; see my other response for some sources. If you can find a source that shows women leaving their kids more than me, I would like to see it. men commit more adultery than women at all ages after about 20 years. And yes, of course men are less likely to initiate a divorce when they’re having an affair; men are more likely to enjoy having sex with two or more women. Men are also more likely to remarry after divorce,, although lethargic is slowly changing in younger generations. …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 02:38 AM
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Bad mothers absolutely do exist. That doesn’t change the statistics. https://www.fatherhood.org/father-absence-statistic
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 02:19 AM
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Hang on, which of ‘my preferences’ do you think I’m supporting with ‘virtue’? And yes, all morality is subjective, claims to the contrary notwithstanding. And no, it’s not ‘just my ability to enforce,’ it’s the fact that most humans are not sociopaths, combined with society’s collective mores. It’s my culture’s ability to enforce them. That’s part of what society is for. If your only reason for not committing violence is ‘my god will punish me,’ you’re not moral, you’re a coward. Most of us do n…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 02:11 AM
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Oh, I’m sure that there are some who do… in absolute numbers, probably even dozens to hundreds. But it is not a thing, the way that men whining about child support is a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 02:06 AM
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You’re missing the point. A gold digger is a woman who only cares about a man’s money. Women with their own careers can date men for reasons other than desperation for money. Therefore, a man who is worried about gold diggers should look for women with their own careers.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 11:51 PM
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Ah, here we go. This is the heart of it. The ‘women are not whole people’ narrative. You cannot love someone if you do not respect them as whole, real people. Men are just as emotional as women, but tradcon ‘masculine’ pretend that you’re not and sublimate everything into anger and violence. That’s why the maternity ward is one of the most dangerous places in the hospital: we get these men who are fearful for their wives, in anguish at seen them in tremendous pain, and they only way they have to…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 06:32 PM
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The statistics back me up. As for women who revile their exes- yes, it happens. Men also revile their exes. My mom didn’t have to, because my father was just gone, and I could see that for myself. And no, my mom didn’t just jump to another man. Most women don’t. ‘Monkey branching’ is something that men do far more often than women, and men are far more likely to remarry and ghost their former family than women. As for child support, it’s recompense for the money that the mother has already spent…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 06:28 PM
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The thing about having children is that you have to take care of them even when they don’t like you. Hell, you have to take care of them even when you don’t like them. That stands for women and men alike. And my experience is not uncommon. That’s why I used it as an example. The internet is full of women asking if they can force their ex to take his legally granted visitation rights with his own children (the answer is no). These women WANT the father to be a part of his children’s lives, not ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 06:23 PM
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snort Virtue isn’t defined by the imaginary big brother of a bunch of celibate old men, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 06:16 PM
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Women are. Where men are the primary caretakers, women pay child support, and you don’t see them whining about it being unfair the way that men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 06:15 PM
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Getting sterilized when you don’t want children, and the other options are no longer 100%, is an overreaction? Isn’t this what the PL people wanted? They’re taking responsibility in a way that involves zero zefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 06:14 PM
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Yes and no- I am way out of my depth here, but apparently in some states it’s impossible to next-to-impossible to get referenda on the ballot; in addition, a lot of states, and especially red states, are gerrymandered into single-party states, which allows/ causes their legislatures to be controlled by the most radical parts of their parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 08:53 AM
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AFAIK every red state in which abortion was restricted or outlawed, and which had a referendum put to the vote to allow abortion, had that referendum pass or at least receive a majority of the votes. Florida’s got like 60% approval, even though that wasn’t enough to pass it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 08:20 AM
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Women are more content alone than men are. If the downside is less bad, the upside has to be relatively better for it to win.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 07:03 AM
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What women are choosing to do is get themselves sterilized.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 06:58 AM
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Yes, it was so bad that the SCOTUS upheld it like half a dozen times in different rulings.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 06:57 AM
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A strong majority of people favor abortion rights even in deeply red states, even among Republicans. The problem is gerrymandered states that favor ultra-reactionary state candidates in many of these states.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 06:57 AM
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Men should be responsible for the offspring they create. This is not rocket science.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 01:06 AM
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‘Bad Catholics’😂 Look at the statistics sometime. I’m referencing personal experience, not expecting sympathy. The fact that you’ve defaulted to that after initially engaging with the actual point makes me think you feel like you’re losing the argument. If you don’t care about women outside of 18-25, the you don’t see women as real people. I hope you do not inflict any women with relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 01:05 AM
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Uh, yeah. Unless you’re a sociopath.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 01:01 AM
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Is it your assertion that men know more about women than women know about themselves, by virtue of dating them? Because it then follows that I would know more about men than men know about themselves, by virtue of having dated them. And. You directly insult me. Then you accuse me of projecting. And then you accuse me of ad-homs. You just can’t me this up 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 01:01 AM
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Hard no for about 99% of the guys on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 07:38 AM
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Solution: dads, parent your children.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 07:08 AM
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we were talking about my mother, whom I had mentioned got pregnant in her late teens, and we are on a forum in which men semi-regularly claim that women should be started on popping out kids when they hit 15, or start menstruating, whichever comes first. I did not claim to be an expert in Catholicism; we stopped going to church before I was 10. I do, however, still have an entire family of Catholics. And a surrounding community of Catholics. 'No sex before marriage' is rarely expected, much less…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 06:42 AM
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I love it when fundamental quality of life issues are hand-waved away by parasitic men as mere 'convenience,' especially when they're couched in a sociopathic dismissal of emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 06:38 AM
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I have literally never met a single woman who 'monkey branches.' I have seen several men do so. Like pretty much all terp dogma, it is projection. I never said parental alienation isn't real. I believe it happens. I also, however, believe that what a lot of men call 'parental alienation' is 'a crappy dad seeing the direct effects of his own behavior, and refusing to accept that it's his behavior that is the cause.' The fact that you're spending half of your response on insults kind of demonstrat…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 06:32 AM
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*snort* You mean, you never met a single divorced man whose ex didn't eventually tell the kids what her side of the story was?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 05:37 AM
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hours more free time every week is more than 'hedonic convenience.'
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 05:36 AM
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*snort* Sex is *supposed* to come after marriage in Catholic dogma, and if it doesn't, you're supposed to marry the person you had sex with. The latter is more common than the former, afaik. Very young mothers are more likely to miscarry. The biological best time for a woman to have a child- when there is the greatest likelihood of good outcomes for both the woman and the infant - is in the mid-20's. Do not pretend to be an expert in physiology based on what you've been told on manosphere story …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 05:34 AM
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I disagree. There should be no ceiling and no floor, only a sliding scale based on the non-custodial parent's income and wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 05:28 AM
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IDK what the ratios are, but after a divorce (which is what we're talking about), more men completely ghost their kids than actually take the visitation they're granted, much less ask for more. A lot of men see children as extensions of their wives, not of themselves, and as something that their wife wanted and that they helped to create to make their wife happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 05:06 AM
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My mom was raised to be a good little catholic girl, and married the first man she slept with after he knocked her up, in her late teens- you know, because everyone’s judgment is so great when they’re teens! Just like terps are always saying is the best of all worlds, ‘how things should be.’ The only part that wasn’t the terp fantasy was that she divorced him after he cheated on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 01:23 AM
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I don’t think that there should be a cap. I also don’t think there should be a floor. Child support should be based on the father’s ability to give. If he becomes disabled and has no inherited wealth, and could barely support himself, he should be paying little to no child support. If he’s sending Teslas to Mars for fun, his kids should each have their own private doctor.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 01:20 AM
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My dad didn’t come into the picture until 2 years after my father split for the other side of the country. In the interim, we were living in a shack literally next to the train tracks (an engineer came walking down the tracks one day to tell my brother and I not to run alongside the trains, because we were freaking out the conductors) with my mom earning minimum wage at a fabric store. And that’s better than kids in a similar situation now would have- nowadays, minimum wage doesn’t even get you …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 01:17 AM
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Pretending that I was talking about Afghans as a people in order to shift the conversation away from the actual point betrays a profound lack of confidence in your side of the original problem. I guess my point was made. Either that, or you really are just that bad at English.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 01:14 AM
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I always went Dutch, but I’m a ‘strident feminist’ who ‘values my career more than having kids,’ so there you go. If you want a tradcon woman, or at least one who will take the financial hit of being the primary caretaker of your children, you have to demonstrate that you can backstop her finances.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 08:21 PM
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You think that’s about race? Have you not been paying attention to world events in the last 30 years? Also, do you think that ‘taliban’ is a race?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 07:43 AM
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I disagree. The human race, and the world as a whole, would be better off without a Talibanesque Afghan people, even if that were the last nation on earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 05:26 AM
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From the perspective of a lot of men, especially terps. There are a LOT of men who do not see women as real people.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 08:19 PM
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No more innocent than a rock thrown off of an overpass onto the freeway.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 02:24 AM
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Accusations of genocidal regimes say more about PLs than they do about PCs.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 01:55 AM
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snort unless you’re a Jain, you have zero legs to stand on.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 12:42 AM
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Abortion is the medical treatment of an unwanted or disordered pregnancy. It involves no people other than the woman and her medical team.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 12:27 AM
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I asked about predictable accidents based on specific behaviors.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 12:21 AM
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1)Someone who attacks another person and causes exactly $10K in lost work and medical costs is seen by society, and treated by society, as a worse person than someone who hacks a bank account and steals exactly $10K in funds. Why do you suppose this is, if bodies and funds are fungible? 2)men have exactly the same right as women to get abortions when they have a zef occupying their body. 3)I am actually in favor of men being able to opt out of parenthood for a pregnancy, in states where abortion…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 12:20 AM
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“No taxpayer funded care, no. Adults should be able to insure themselves, so long as there is an agreeable party on the other side willing to enter into that contract. Private contracts between consenting parties are not the proper concern of the government.”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 11:56 PM
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LOL you’re one of those who fantasize about apocalypse😂 Women are humans. We’re just smaller ones. We’re just as ruthless and savage, and as civilized, as any other humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 11:14 PM
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Then why did you imply that abortions are payed for with public funds?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 11:13 PM
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There is capitalism, and there is capitalism. What we have is the worst form of capitalism, parasitic capitalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 07:46 AM
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Firstly, there are a lot of stable, average men in LTRs in their 20’s, and a lot of women in relationships with them. Most women do want a stable LTR. Most of the sex that is had in the 20’s, is in the context of LTRs. But that’s doesn’t = ‘permanent’ or ‘marriage.’ Most people have a couple of failed LTRs before they find one that sticks: they’re a slob, or the other person is a slob, or they’re abusive, or the other person is, or they’re too independent, or too clingy, or the other person is. …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 07:42 AM
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No, it really is not. That’s why dating apps are 90% men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 07:01 AM
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That’s such a human thing to say. Like you actually want real human connection or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 07:00 AM
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That’s only because human males throw violent tantrums when they don’t get the sex they think they deserve.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 06:59 AM
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Women don’t just ‘consider’ their end of the deal too harsh. Giving too much power to the men leads to cultures like Afghanistan under the Taliban, where women are literally treated like sexy sheep to be bought and sold as pre-pubescent girls, and bred early and often until they die of exhaustion at a young age. That is literally what you’re advocating. But, hey? They have a “civilization” and their fertility rate was like 7 the last time the Taliban was in control (it would have been higher if …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 06:58 AM
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It might be ‘widely accepted in the manosphere,’ but that’s not the same thing as ‘common knowledge.’
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 06:52 AM
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High quality is determined by nature, not the human patriarchy. The person that dies with the most grandkids is definitionally the most fit, regardless of whether they possess the qualities that you, personally, find the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 06:50 AM
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Are you under the misapprehension that abortions are taxpayer-funded anywhere but Oregon?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 06:45 AM
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Hahahhahahhahha It is exactly the same fucking thing. Women want the most attractive man they can get, regardless of their own status. Men want the most attractive women they can get, regardless of their own status. The woman only difference is that a woman would rather be alone than be with a man she’s not attracted to, and a man will fuck a donkey if he can’t get a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 09:52 PM
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Sooo no medical care for people who get into car crashes? No medical care for people who drink to excess or eat red meat? No medical care for kids who jump off of roofs, thinking they can fly? No medical care for adults who fall off of ladders working on their own roofs?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 09:50 PM
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And yet you think that the government should require adults to donate their bodies to their offspring.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 09:27 PM
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For men to have as many dating options as women, you’d have to have women being as horny as men, for as long as men, and women being as into pursuing extra-marital affairs as men. So you’ll have young men open a dating app and have a ton of messages from women wanting to sleep with him: 10-20 will be from married women, 40-80 from women at least 1 decade older than him, 40-60 from skeezy, dirty, ill-groomed women their own age, with disgusting political views (despite that being a hard rule-out …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 09:26 PM
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Ah, yes. The conservative drive to control what consenting adults do with their own bodies has no limits.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 09:19 PM
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Yes, they absolutely do. When a man has a fetus inside his body, he can choose to abort it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 08:46 PM
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the presumption that 'women not being available to high-status men' and 'women will look for love and compatibility in their 20's' means that 'low to middle status men will be able to sleep with as many women as they want' is laughable. Also, be consistent: if you call it hypergamy when a woman wants a man above her own status, call it the same thing when a man wants a woman above his own status. *Everyone* wants the best partner they can get, regardless of which criteria are most important to m…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 08:45 PM
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Men *already do* have the same right to abortion as women when they have a z/e/f inside their own body. Just to be clear wrt. using the parents' bodies, you think that a kid should have the right to use either parent's body for life support until the age of 18?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 08:38 PM
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Oh! Well, at least you’re slightly less hypocritical than most PLs. Most of y’all think that a child’s right to occupy and use its parents’ bodies for life support should end at birth. Good on you for at least continuing that stance- but I’m curious. Do you think it should extend through to adulthood? Should a middle-aged, alcoholic child have the right to force their parent to donate a lobe of their liver?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 08:09 PM
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snort that’s not why men have a shorter average lifespan. It’s almost entirely from a combination of early life fragility (boys are slightly more likely to die of SIDS, iirc, and early childhood illnesses); immediate risk-taking in the teens and young adult years (‘Hey, guys, watch this!’), and long-term risk taking (smoking, vaping, drinking to excess, eating copious amounts of red meat, etc).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 08:06 PM
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IDK about other women, but birth control made me uninterested in men and sex altogether.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 06:03 PM
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I’d say it was the opposite with me. I was more likely to get crushes on the tv stereotypes when I was younger, less so with age.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 05:24 PM
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Pay? Unofficial curfews? Being able to travel alone without fear? Being taken seriously by strangers? Having their pain accepted as real in EDs?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 07:31 AM
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I don’t give a flying fuck about your anecdote. Statistically, attempted parental alienation backfires on the parent who tries it- and, statistically, it backfires worse on women who try it. FWIW, my father eventually corroborated everything my mom said. He pretended to be pissed that we’d been adopted by someone else in the interim, but when you skip town without a forwarding address, you don’t get to complain that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 07:15 AM
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snort Musk could pay a billion a year per kid, and not suffer. He’s a perfect example of why there shouldn’t be a cap.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 07:12 AM
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I have the context of my father skipping town and breaking contact with his children, after his wife divorced him for giving her an STI from an affair.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 07:10 AM
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snort that might hurt my feelings, if I gave a flying duck about some random internet dude’s opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:49 AM
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Most mothers struggle to get 2 figures, let alone 6
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:48 AM
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Nope. She never said a word against him to me, except for a factual recitation of the events.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:44 AM
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lipopolysaccharide?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 06:49 AM
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My father skipped town to the far side of the country and made zero contact until after my brother and I were both 18, does that count?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 06:47 AM
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Abortion isn't an 'out.' It's disgusting and painful, even in the best case scenario- and I say that as someone who is 100% pro-choice, *and* as someone who thinks there should be some sort of male opt-out within the 1st trimester.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 06:45 AM
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that sounds reasonable, if the evidence is sound.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 06:38 AM
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Men who get pregnant also have the right to abort, if they live in a pro-choice state.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 06:25 AM
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Healthy food, which helps a child's body and brain develop and makes them more likely to succeed, costs more money than cheap calories. Internet connections, which they need to do their homework and succeed, cost money. Safe, secure, non-moldy housing, which they need to grow up feeling safe and not constantly sick (speaking from personal experience), costs money. School extracurriculars, which help them to learn and develop socially, cost money. None of this shit is free.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 06:21 AM
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Attractiveness has been shown to affect how affectionate parents are with infants. It's in *everything.*
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 06:18 AM
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As an adoptee, I disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 06:11 AM
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If the fetus is growing in a man's body, the man gets 100% say over whether or not he has an abortion. Very simple. As for 'no one has to support the child...' technically, that is true. However, it leads to dystopian slums full of begging children and orphanages along the lines of Oliver Twist. We have, as a society, mostly agreed that this is Bad. Similarly, the courts favor *the child's primary caretaker,* not *the woman.* If you want courts to favor you in the possible event of a future divo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 06:08 AM
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They will tolerate it for some amount of time, if there are no kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 01:45 PM
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‘Cat lady’ is a fun one, because only the dudes saying it think it’s an insult. Most of the women I know react along the lines of, ‘don’t threaten me with a good time.’
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 01:43 PM
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I think it’s a good thing. I’m now in my 40’s, and TBF smart phones with cameras weren’t around when I was in my 20’s, but I have practically no photos of myself from that age and I kind of don’t know what I looked like. It’s kind of bittersweet. Likewise, historically it’s been women taking family photos a lot of the time, so in family photo albums, quite often the mother just …isn’t there. It’s sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 12:47 PM
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‘Anything’? You mean like deliberately chasing the most naive person you can find, in order to be with someone who won’t call out your bullshit?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 11:19 PM
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Because a live-in girlfriend with no career has no security and no future.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 01:16 PM
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And calling it ‘weird’ did? Hypocrite.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 10:08 PM
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No, it’s not.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 07:13 PM
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I think I’ve already answered that. I’m not going to belabor this. You’re being a sea lion.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 02:24 AM
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Various places online in male-coded spaces or male-coded feeds.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 12:24 AM
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It’s not the first time I’ve heard that claim, though. There are actual men out there who think that washing their own asses makes them gay. There are men who think that bathing is elitist. Etc. It is not a majority of men- it’s a tiny minority- but they absolutely exist, and they are all sure that they’re right, and everyone else is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 09:41 PM
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I’m happily married, but nice try. Terps are the outliers among men, not representatives of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 08:05 PM
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You haven’t see the ‘real men leave skid marks’ ticktock?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 08:04 PM
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Nope. I was on the science Olympiad team, and while I can’t speak for every individual girl, we largely interacted with and had crushes on the guys who were on the team with us. Edit: the chess team was a different group entirely. I don’t know what their gender split was , but Science Olympiad had a pretty even ratio.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 08:02 PM
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LOL yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 08:00 PM
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This is getting repetitive and boring. I’m not going to keep on answering the same question over and over.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 08:00 PM
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That is not the typical usage of the term ‘ulterior motive,’ which implies something mildly nefarious rather than merely delusional or in denial.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 08:23 AM
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Uh no. Shallow is shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 08:21 AM
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It’s not. It’s a jock/cheerleader thing. Nerd girls generally find nerd guys attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 08:20 AM
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you have met the Buddha on the road, and should take appropriate action.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 08:16 AM
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It {fathers earning more} has to do with the father being better. That’s basically why she chose him. If the father were intrinsically better, he would have been earning more before she had kids, not just after. You are basically agreeing with me and using being a parent to justify ts. Uh, what? First, I’m explicitly contradicting you, and second, I’m not a parent. I didn’t want to sacrifice my career. Last year, I made more than my husband. This year, he’ll probably earn more. That’s ok. I have…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 06:24 AM
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You literally just dismissed pretty much everything but hotness.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 06:03 AM
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The social paradigm does not support your assertions🤷🏻‍♀️ That’s an argumentum ad populum, but it’s still better than anything you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 06:02 AM
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snort yes, that’s why men are always whining about women leaving them, on, like every single fucking corner of the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 06:01 AM
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I’m not assuming any ulterior motives. I’m saying that any given person can be assumed to understand their own internal life and own motivations better than some other person who is not them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 05:59 AM
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Because most women don’t like or want hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 07:39 PM
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It’s dressed as ‘women are too picky.’ You want a dude to dress in a shirt that doesn’t look like it got picked up off the floor? Too picky. You want a guy who bathes every day and washes his hair with shampoo rather than body soap, so that he doesn’t have a flaky scalp? Too picky. You want a guy who doesn’t leave skid marks on his underwear? Too picky. There is A. Literal. Thing. in the manosphere that men wiping and washing their own asses is ‘gay.’
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 07:19 PM
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A man who earns more than his wife after she has children is an average man. Something like 93% of the income gap between men and women is due entirely to motherhood and the hit that takes on women’s careers. It has nothing to do with the father being ‘better’ than her, and everything to do with her having to take time off of work to gestate, deliver, and then care for the child(ren) for the next 20 years. Also, men needing to be taller than their girlfriends is just as much because the men need…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 07:15 PM
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The term ‘boor’ used to be almost exclusively applied to men, back when it was in more consistent use. Men are more likely to have the time for introspection than women, who are generally holding shit down on a daily basis. They’re also more likely to use pot, and to sophomorically marinate in their own suppositions about angels on pins without the benefit of someone wiser, or at least equal, to knock them off of their own pedestals.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 07:05 PM
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Ah. By ‘equal value’ you meant ‘equally hot.’ My apologies for assuming you had more depth than a fish.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 07:01 PM
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Men are right about what is turning women off, and women are wrong about what is turning them off? I suppose that is technically a possibility, but it is dismissive and insulting to women to make that claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 06:58 PM
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Then don’t date women who go to bars and travel. Date your fellow strivers and science geeks. Oh, but wait, those women aren’t hot because they don’t ‘shallowly’ spend hours every day prepping for the male gaze.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 01:09 PM
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Literally every male comment in here is proving OP right😂
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 01:06 PM
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Literally no stable couple I know has a man who is “completely superior” to the woman. And if that’s the case, go to some rural town or inner city and look for someone with less education and/or less prospects. It won’t last, but terps don’t actually care about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 12:53 PM
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snort men and women are boring and unappealing in similar proportions. You just happen to like the same things as most of the men you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 12:50 PM
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This falls pretty clearly under the OP’s description. Women are telling men what they like and don’t like, and this subset of men is saying that has to be wrong because they don’t want to hear it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 12:49 PM
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Wait, wait, I thought ‘men don’t care about a woman’s accomplishments, only that she’s hot and doesn’t pester him.’
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 12:44 PM
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So, basically, just ‘nuh-uh!’ again.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 06:48 AM
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On this forum.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 06:47 AM
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The man I married is the only one I ever wanted to marry. But he would not have been ready, and I would not have been ready, to meet each other when we were younger. Humans are supposed to have some failed relationships at first. We all do stupid shit. We come out of families where our parents do far more for us than we understand at first, and learning how to interact with others appropriately takes trial and error. Becoming our own people takes trial and error and time. I was, to be frank, a b…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 06:45 AM
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That is a charitable take.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 05:47 PM
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Sure, sure. You don’t even make an argument. It was just a bunch of ‘nuh-uh!’
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 05:46 PM
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You answer me first.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 05:45 PM
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You haven’t been on this forum long enough, then.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 05:45 PM
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I’m not. Why are you ignoring the fact that women want sex sometimes, too? Do you think women in their 20’s have sex just to ‘reward’ some guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 08:08 AM
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She chose the father of her child. In case you haven’t noticed, biological men cannot give birth to their own children. If you really think a fling in one’s 20’s is worth more than marriage, family, and a life together… don’t get married. Ever. Get a vasectomy. Put your actions where your mouth is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 08:01 AM
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If the personality of the person does not matter in the slightest, only their body, do you ‘desire’ that person? Or do you just want to get your rocks off using their body?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 07:43 AM
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Yes, she’s one of the parents, and she’s giving her best to the man she chose to father her child. And no, sex is not one’s best.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 07:42 AM
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Men absolutely do complain about those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 07:13 AM
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I was mostly celibate by choice in my 20’s and 30’s, but nice attempt at an ad-hominem. Also, it is frankly disgusting that you think that any relationship of any length in one’s 20’s and 30’s is somehow ‘better’ than marrying a man, having his children if the couple wants them, and living a life together with him. It’s pathetic, honestly, and it’s reflective of an attitude that does not consider women to be real people and does not consider friendships or relationships to have any value. A woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 07:12 AM
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Well, that was incoherent.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 07:05 AM
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TL, DR: everything is women’s fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 06:37 AM
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Do you desire your real doll?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 06:35 AM
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It has nothing to do with that stat [that there are 5 men for every woman] It was based on women’s assessment of 100 men If you’re referring to the OKC data, you need to be aware of 2 things: first, at the time that they drew down the data, they were notifying people whom one ranked highly that one had done so. Women who wanted to browse anonymously would deliberately rank men below the top tiers to avoid notifying the guy that the woman had been on their page. Second, the relative numbers still…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 06:13 AM
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I understand ick. I don’t understand the trampoline thing you mentioned. If you wanted to specifically talk about ick from trampolines, you should have made your original post about trampolines.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 06:03 AM
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That’s an … odd thing to call ‘desire.’ Do you ‘desire’ your real doll?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 06:02 AM
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Huh. I honestly don’t know what you’re talking about, but that seems like a silly thing to get ick about. Adults are allowed to have fun, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 04:11 AM
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It’s not just emasculation or childishness. Sometimes it’s simple, base, disgust. This happens with grooming issues: when a man clearly has not been brushing his teeth, or has a gangrenous foot and can be smelled from 100 feet away, to take some obvious examples of guys who actually hit on me at work when I was younger. Other times it’s creepiness- the sense that a guy wants something from you, and would take it without permission if he could. Think Steven Miller in Trump’s cabinet for a paradig…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 02:26 AM
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So do you agree, then, that men are so inherently disgusting that a woman allowing herself to be touched by one automatically becomes dirty herself? Because that’s kind of what it sounds like. It seems like a kind of internalized misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 02:16 AM
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Ok. I don’t do casual sex, and never did, but let me give you an example. A co-worker of mine does not generally date a lot here in town. She’s reasonably attractive, and absolutely could if she wanted. About a year ago, she was traveling to Chicago for an unrelated event and looked up the hottest guys she could find in Chicago, narrowed it down by them seeming reasonably safe, and set up a nice date for herself with a guy who was pretty much exactly her physical type but with whom there was zer…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 02:14 AM
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Religiously applying it to every goddamn thing under the sun is relatively new.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 02:09 AM
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I have never partaken in casual sex. Some of my friends have. And they generally do it because they want sex, and they think a guy is hot, and for no other reason- basically, exactly the same reason a man would do casual sex. The personality or desires of the other human, aside from obtaining consent, are irrelevant. It’s basically masturbation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 02:08 AM
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Look at the ratios of men to women on those dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 02:06 AM
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Women don’t want the hot guys they had flings with. That’s why they were flings.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 07:07 PM
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The women you meet in their 30’s, including the low n women, see or hear you referring to women as having ‘been run through’ and are disgusted. Iam relatively low n, and I find it degrading and dehumanizing that anyone might think that my number of sexual partners determines my worth. In addition, it betrays an attitude about sex- that sex degrades and devalues a woman, and that men are so inherently filthy that being with a man makes a woman dirty- that women do not want to deal with.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 07:06 PM
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The hyperbole creep is kind of amusing. It started out as ‘women only chase the top 20%,’ then ‘the top 10%,’ and now it’s ’the top 5%.’ I’m guessing someone will claim ‘the top 1%,’ or ‘the top 0.01%,’ fairly soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 07:00 PM
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You do know that sex is a mutual activity right? Yeah, that is my point. There are a lot of men who do not care, or even act like they know, that the woman they are having sex with is an actual person. They are effectively treating her as an animate blow-up doll, using her body to masturbate.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 05:03 AM
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This. If the scene of the proposal is more important than the man who’s proposing… he’s better off without that woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 01:44 AM
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This idea that men have that women can ‘get sex at any time,’ is so laughable. Most of us don’t want sex unless it’s with a specific person. Most of us get off alone far better than we do with what you’re talking about. The difference between men and women around sex isn’t that women can get it easier, it’s that most men prefer to masturbate with a woman’s body (her personality is not, apparently, necessary for many men), and most women prefer to masturbate alone. If you want to talk about mutua…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 01:42 AM
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Works for women sometimes, for similar reasons. Don’t see why it wouldn’t also work for men, sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 07:42 PM
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Most men spend more of their individual income on the family prior to the divorce than after it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 04:13 AM
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‘Obesity’ is not generally considered attractive, but I have absolutely seen men call women ‘obese who were only mildly overweight or even normal weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 05:27 AM
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Women don’t feel entitled to ‘top tier men,’ they just have the choice to be single if they can’t get a man that they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 05:25 AM
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Citation
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 10:10 PM
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I’m scheduled for 8 hours of work per day, plus a 1/2 hour break (which I often do not get), plus a commute, plus getting into/out of scrubs, plus 1/4 hour to 1.5 hours of extra work to help/catch up before I leave. It is far from universal, but it is exceptionally common for American corporations to over-work extant staff because a little bit of overtime is waaaaayyyyy cheaper than a whole other person. So there’s that. Plus I’m probably older than you, plus I often don’t sleep through the nigh…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 07:15 PM
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I work 40 hours a week. I’m constantly aware of all of the things that need to be done, because I don’t have the time or energy to do them. I never have enough energy and time to do everything on my days off.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 07:34 AM
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In addition to cleaning, is she also doing grocery shopping, planning meals, making appointments, doing taxes, prepping food, doing maintenance, doing yard work, taking kids to doctors’ appointments, and running errands that can’t be done after hours? If the SAH spouse only cleans, then no: the cleaning should all be done by the time that the working spouse gets home.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 06:59 AM
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Saying that the parent working outside the home is going 50/50 on housework is predicated on the assumption that zero house and child care happens while they are away from home.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 01:54 AM
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Again, no. They’re not doing 50/50 in the early stages, either. They’re only sharing the load when the other person isn’t doing 100% of it by themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 01:26 AM
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When kids go to school, SAH parents are relieved not because they’re going to sit on the couch and play video games all day, but because they can finally get caught up on all of the other household tasks that they couldn’t get to in the prior 5 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 07:36 PM
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If they weren’t sexualized, sure. As it is, I wore sports bras between about 16 and 28 and nothing else, to reduce the attention they bring.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 07:17 PM
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They’re like 90% of the people on dating apps. I’m guessing that they just want to take the easy way out, without interrupting their video games too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 06:52 PM
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‘Finding your ass a job’
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 06:48 PM
1

‘You’? I work 40 hours a week. Nice try.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 08:11 AM
1

Back when I was dating, and on dating apps: 50% of men conservative -> automatic no 30% of men either too old or too young ->no Of the remaining 20%, about 50% have no profile or respond with zero-content messages like ‘wassup?’ Or ‘hey’ or whatever -> no personality -> no
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 12:26 AM
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I would not expect the working parent to go 50/50 on chores and kids if there is a SAHP. I would expect them to go 50/50 when they are home, so that the SAHP is only doing 100% of it for 40 hours a week (or however long the working parent is at work).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 01:04 AM
1

No.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 05:09 AM
5

There’s a lot of room between full access and a full ban.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 09:29 PM
1

Bullshit. Makeup is no different than any other method of self- improvement, from hair to clothing to diet. You’re basically saying that anyone performing any kind of grooming is being deceptive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 09:15 PM
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‘If we change the definition of rape, the statistics change.’ Sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 05:09 AM
1

Makeup is not magic. It does not improve/mask someone’s actual appearance enough to be called a ‘lie.’ It’s not photo editing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 05:07 AM
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Makeup doesn’t change the fundamental shape or symmetry of the face.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 07:11 AM
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“I actually love women” (While posting a screed about how women are horrible and never choose good men, describing women as ‘used game’ and relationships as ‘paying a price’).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 05:59 AM
1

Makeup is still not magic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 05:55 AM
1

It’s the opposite of self-serving. If you haven’t encountered this type of situation, good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 05:54 AM
1

Being a grownup is painful sometimes. Sometimes you have to do things that will scar you for the rest of your life, but they’re still the right thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 01:59 AM
1

Yes. I might have it put down, but I would still love it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 01:34 AM
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Some people get rid of dogs that don’t meet their requirements. I am not one of them. And yeah: the benefit is companionship and love.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 07:57 PM
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Makeup is not as magic as you seem to think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 07:56 PM
1

sigh you’re talking about agape. I’m talking about unconditional love for specific people. They’re two different things. Also, my dogs are not my genetic descendants.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 06:14 PM
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Newsflash: men can wear makeup too, and historically have done so. Men can dress well, and historically have done so. Men can do all of the things that women do to put their best foot forward, without lying about their beliefs of their likes or their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 06:12 PM
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TL, DR: OP thinks it’s ok to lie to women for sex, and that women’s concerns about knowing whom they are sharing their body with are ‘annoying,’ ‘unreasonable,’ and ‘unrealistic.’ Yet another terp showing that he does not see women as people.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 06:21 AM
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Nope. The whole point of having kids is to be able to throw oneself unabashedly into loving someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 04:17 AM
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🤦🏻‍♀️ Unconditional love being for parents, children, and pets, not randos picked up off the street, in normal people, != ‘unconditional love does not exist’ nor ‘unconditional love is actually conditional.’
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 03:56 AM
1

Re-read what I said, honey.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 06:44 PM
1

Correct. That was a significant part of my entire point.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 06:32 PM
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I’m not one of the types to try to feed the bears, no fear. I hike with bells and pepper spray in brown bear country, and dog(s) in black bear country. And dog(s) in human country too, for that matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 05:52 AM
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Huh. For me, the point of having them is to have someone/something that you can just lavish affection upon without abandon. Not without discipline, but without abandon or reservation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 05:51 AM
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It should be. Most people are not sociopaths.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 01:32 AM
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Normal people do not abuse parents, children, or pets even if they have conditions.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 01:26 AM
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Sociopaths exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 01:10 AM
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Yes, and?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 12:56 AM
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I care about the future of humanity, not the perpetuation of the current economic paradigm. However, that’s a red herring. It does not touch the simple claim that people who marry older have lower divorce rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 12:23 AM
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If you only attract sociopaths, that still suggests that you could use some therapy. It is not reflective of the population in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 12:17 AM
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So?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 12:15 AM
1

So?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 12:15 AM
1

Even if you qualify it by ‘divorce’ vs. ‘death,’ mature people are less likely to divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 11:38 PM
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Unconditional love is for your parents, your pets, and your children. It’s not for your spouse. Women do ‘unconditional love’ just fine- just not for you as a potential mate. And if you think that you should have ‘unconditional love’ for your mate, I suggest therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 11:35 PM
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This
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 11:32 PM
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When a woman would rather be alone than be with a dude, that’s a woman making a choice that best fits her desires. The fact that she’s ’undesirable’ or ‘average’ herself does not change her desires or make the dude in question suddenly ‘desirable.’
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 11:30 PM
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Leaders aren’t just the ones who are chosen, they’re the ones who care stridently enough to devote their lives to a cause. People who are content just go about their lives being content. The immoderate ones at the tip of any spear tend to be obsessive and are often kind of unpleasant, but they do the work of pushing the Overton window. Like, most people think ‘all men would be tyrants’ is a bit too far, but look at our good wives who just want to vote.’
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 06:38 PM
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Men are only half of rape victims if you count prison rape. That is a serious issue, but it is not the same thing. Apples and oranges, again. I don’t speak for all women, but I’ve never seen anyone else answer the question wrt. Interest by the bear/man, or lack thereof. And no, unfortunately, for that 20-30 year window, men are not uninterested in us. It gets better with age and the invisibility granted thereof, but for a while there one cannot step outside without every human with three legs be…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 02:06 AM
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Comparing apples to apples in this case means comparing all men to all women, not all men (on dating apps) to women in their 20’s and 30’s (on dating apps). As for the bear, most bears do not GAF about humans and would rather just go about their day. If you change the specifics of the man, you also change the specifics of the bear. A black man or a bear looking at you with interest? The man. A white man or a bear looking at you with interest? The man. Etc. Speaking as someone with a bit of wilde…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 12:06 AM
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You are exceptionally bad at reading charts, if that is your takeaway from that article.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 08:13 PM
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Most men also view most women as unattractive, with women over 50 being virtually invisible to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 08:12 PM
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1)men also view 80% of women as unattractive, if you look at the full spectrum of their lives and not just the ones on the dating market (most older women are not on dating apps, but men of all ages are on dating apps). Also, ‘bear’ has nothing to do with attraction or lack thereof.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 08:11 PM
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Men cheat more at all ages past 25ish: https://ifstudies.org/blog/who-cheats-more-the-demographics-of-cheating-in-america
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 08:04 PM
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…what?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 08:01 PM
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Most women are not attractive to most men, either. Y’all are always saying we ‘hit a wall’ at 30, and assuming a 70-80 year lifespan, and no pedophilia, that’s 1/7 to 1/8 women that men consider attractive.’
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 08:01 PM
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You do not have to have experienced the exact same thing as someone else to have some empathy for them. You might not understand it completely, but you can have some understanding just through simple logic. ‘Oh, that person’s parent just died. My parents are alive, but I would be very sad if my parent died. That person is probably very sad.’
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 07:19 AM
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People will bend over backwards for attractive people who ask for help.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 07:16 AM
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True. But, statistically, people who get married older are less likely to divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 06:49 AM
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Both men and women statistically are less likely to divorce if they 1)get married older and 2) have a smaller age gap.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 06:47 AM
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The data do not support that assertion. Also, men being insufferable assholes so that their partner leaves is a thing. Also, women doing the paperwork for a mutually agreed on split is a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 06:47 AM
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I got married in my late 30’s to the only man I’ve ever wanted to marry- and I spent my ‘hot youth’ mostly being voluntarily celibate, not banging anything with 3 legs.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 11:52 PM
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Men ‘not initiating divorce’ != ‘men are more loyal.’ 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 11:49 PM
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You talk about ‘baggage’ when you mean ‘wisdom.’ Statistically, people who marry older have lower divorce rates. You don’t want 20 year old because she ‘has less baggage’ and ‘will bond better,’ because that’s just false. You want a young woman because she’s hotter and easier to manipulate, and then you’ll cry that you ‘never saw it coming’ when she realizes that you neither respect nor care for her as a human being, and divorces you for either that or for the younger flings you start to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 11:48 PM
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As you said, women are not a monolith. Living on my own with only my pets, especially since I had social outlets when I wanted them, was a quite serene phase of my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 06:49 PM
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Some don’t. I think that most do, or at least a greater proportion that the converse. Our entire media sphere is based on the idea that men are the main characters and women are accessories or orbiters.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 06:35 PM
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When I was in my 20’s, there was often this car on the route I walked to class that had a bumper sticker: “Feminism is the radical concept that women are people.” At the time, I rolled my eyes every time I saw it, thinking it was extremely hyperbolic. Unfortunately, I eventually came to realize that there are a lot of men who do not think of us as people. The Taliban, at the most extreme, but there are less dramatic versions of it. I’m sure most of the men who act like they don’t think women are…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 03:55 AM
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I remember seeing a guy go on a rant, years ago, about how this random model in a photo from a magazine was trying to deceive him, personally, with her smile. Like, dude. She’s working. It’s not about you. Women are people, and the fact that you think they’re hot if they breathe, and sometimes if they do not, does not mean that they don’t get to live their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 05:59 PM
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This. It’s not about you. Some of the most attention I ever got from guys was when I was on my way to crew practice… in my uniform. If we want to dress up for our girlfriends or for our boyfriend/husband, everyone else can see us, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 05:57 PM
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Terps: ‘A high N is correlated to more failed relationships!’ Also terps: ‘Extreme age gaps relationships are just fine, and not problematic at all!’
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 10:52 PM
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Yes, literally, in the traditional sense of the word rather than the modern one.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 12:34 AM
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No, I think that you literally do not know what it means. You did not use it correctly in context.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 03:51 PM
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I think that you do do not know what ‘postmodernist’ actually means.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 08:03 AM
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I can only speak to my own experience, but neither I nor any of my friends would date a conservative (or “not political”) man, when we were dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 06:39 PM
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I’m not single, but ‘not conservative’ was absolutely a criterion when I was dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 03:36 AM
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I mean, women were pretty much not having sex with conservatives already, soooooo…..
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 02:52 AM
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Red pillers definitionally are low-value, no matter what they look like or how much they have.
/r/ExRedPill12/11/24 02:38 AM
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5minutes after reading this…https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/s/5aSyVgGZcX Just go to the front page. Just read the comments.
/r/MensRights12/11/24 02:36 AM
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Hundred of posts about how being raped and seeing no justice isn’t as bad as being accused of rape, hundreds of posts claiming that women “cry rape” for sex that they regret, hundreds of posts about how men should be able to have non-consensual sex under x, y, or z conditions and ‘it’s not really rape if…’
/r/MensRights12/11/24 01:13 AM
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snort You haven’t been here long, if you think that.
/r/MensRights12/11/24 12:53 AM
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Fine. Pretend that it’s only about abortion. The point still stands.
/r/MensRights12/11/24 12:41 AM
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Fuentes: ‘I can rape you whenever I want, and there’s nothing you can do about it.’ Women: ‘Try it and we’ll fucking kill you. We’re not helpless.’ MRAs: ‘OMG, women are so violent!’
/r/MensRights11/11/24 06:53 AM
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Men going on killing sprees got that term ‘banned,’ not feminists.
/r/MensRights11/11/24 06:51 AM
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It would be nice if it were that simple, wouldn’t it? https://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/issue-briefs/2020/nov/maternal-mortality-maternity-care-us-compared-10-countries
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 06:54 AM
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He absolutely shot her. There were witnesses. He was found guilty.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 08:25 PM
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45% isn’t enough to get someone elected.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 08:22 PM
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I don’t think it depends at all on who was committing the infidelity, unless they both were. Whomever was unfaithful should be glad to get anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 12:54 AM
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If a pregnant woman died from a cancer that a non-pregnant woman would have survived, yeah: that’s maternal mortality, not ‘a statistical anomaly.’
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 07:27 PM
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There is no economy that impacts a woman more than an unwanted child, permanent disability, or death. ‘Being taken care of’ has nothing to do with it. Jesus fucking Christ, this is a stupid argument even for a forum that specialized in stupid arguments.
/r/MensRights08/11/24 02:21 AM
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Adjudicated guilty of rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:06 AM
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He literally has been adjudicated guilty of rape, which is a lot fucking closer to ‘convicted rapist’ than it is to ‘innocent.’
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:05 AM
1

Protect women from what?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 06:34 AM
0

Innocent of what?
/r/MensRights05/11/24 06:46 PM
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OP is a Russian troll
/r/MensRights05/11/24 06:40 PM
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Given that neither woman has started any wars- nor has Biden- that’s a stretch.
/r/MensRights05/11/24 06:39 PM
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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna146661 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28213723/
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 12:09 AM
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Lesbians do just fine at getting each other off. It’s only straight men who seem to have problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 11:43 PM
3

Wow. I would never stay with someone who abused my family, including pets. That is a strange perspective to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 10:06 PM
2

What if he’s abusive towards your children or pets?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 06:25 PM
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You lose alimony if you remarry.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 06:14 PM
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Women are people.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 06:12 PM
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No, it doesn’t imply anything about ‘the true prevalence’ because we don’t know what portion of men asked for the test. If 1% asked for a test and 30% of those showed non-paternity, that would be a very different thing than if 50% asked for the test and 30% of those showed non-paternity. This should be obvious and very simple math. And no, I am not attempting to ‘excuse’ anything, I’m attempting to counteract the incel narrative that women should be ‘assigned’ to men, that there is some social g…
/r/MensRights29/10/24 06:07 PM
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It’s 30% of men who actually have reason to suspect non-paternity (ie, 70% of them are wrong). In western countries, it’s between <1-5% of all births, depending on the study. It varies from country to country. Basically, the less coercion (legal, social, and financial) there is on women to settle, the less non-paternity there is, because women only marry when they find a man they want in those countries.
/r/MensRights29/10/24 03:06 AM
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Half my family is Jewish, jerkoff. If you’re not anti-Semitic, pick a different epithet. https://x.com/nowthisimpact/status/972238852634042368?s=46 https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/03/the-origins-of-the-globalist-slur/555479/ https://forward.com/community/412627/globalism-anti-semitism/?amp=1 https://antisemitism.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/6847-Antisem-Glossary-2023-8-WEB-VERSION.pdf https://www.ajc.org/translatehate/globalist https://www.timesofisrael.com/why-some-jews-a…
/r/MensRights29/10/24 02:30 AM
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I see MORE guys online talking about women not being great, than women saying the e converse.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 12:47 AM
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“Globalists” A little anti-semitism with your misogyny?
/r/MensRights28/10/24 11:58 PM
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Well, TBF it depends on the context. If I were in an anti-choice state where rapists get parental rights, and especially if I were single (not on birth control), I’d cut off a finger myself to avoid it. At my current age, if I wasn’t conscious…? Eh, it’s a disgusting dilemma, but not as clear of a call as the previous scenario.
/r/MensRights26/10/24 09:33 PM
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It’s a leap to assume that I want this.
/r/MensRights26/10/24 06:29 PM
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You might be surprised
/r/MensRights26/10/24 06:29 PM
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He will if it’s enforced by women with guns. Besides which, most murders are impulsive and if he’s not outside, he’s not going to have the impulse to murder random people… Which brings up the real problem with this plan, which is that the vast majority of women who are murdered, are murdered by their spouses or other male family members (iirc men are more likely to be murdered by strangers), and confining men to the home during any time period whatsoever might actually increase the female murder…
/r/MensRights26/10/24 05:21 AM
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Women with guns are pretty effective.
/r/MensRights26/10/24 05:17 AM
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Men are murdered more …by men. A 7-7 curfew would make men safer from other men, too. That’s just a bad argument against people who are arguing that men are more dangerous than women.
/r/MensRights26/10/24 12:04 AM
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If you see a girl checking out a book you liked (especially if it has good female characters/good relationships - and you can go over to some of the book fora for those) - and you rave about it to her, she’s going to be waaay more receptive to that than to talking about yourself or herself. And then you say, ‘what was the last book you really loved…?’
/r/ExRedPill25/10/24 01:13 AM
1

Men judge boob sizes. Men judge social status. Men judge hair color and type. Men judge body type/structure. Men judge facial attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 06:45 PM
0

Cherry picking much?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 04:42 AM
1

That may be true for some women, IDK, but they’re idiots if so.
/r/MensRights22/10/24 08:31 PM
1

Well, yes, and that’s ok if a man is looking for a trophy wife like an employee- ie, you get this much $ per week, I want # kids, you must keep yourself fit and more attractive than average for your age, you must work out, you get x severance per year of marriage if we divorce, etc. No love on either side, basically. That …’works’ for some people.
/r/MensRights22/10/24 08:29 PM
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That’s revolting. Speaking as a woman in love with her husband.
/r/MensRights22/10/24 08:26 PM
1

Nope. Both should be 100% fully functional adults on their own. If a couple decides to split duties, that should be a choice based on what makes sense and is important to them, not because one or the other can’t do something.
/r/MensRights21/10/24 11:46 PM
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50% of her assets are on the line, too, and unmarried women without kids are in parity or better off than unmarried men without kids. It’s only after she has children, because of the children that her career tanks- one more thing that she gives him. If all guys want is that 1%, then yeah- it sucks to not be a playboy. But honestly I can’t feel sorry for dudes who are playboys or want to be playboys, because that’s a really shallow existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 11:41 PM
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Not really, because the ‘safe’ guy is the one who is actually getting a woman’s commitment- her time, her children, her life. Playboy gets 1% and the guy she married gets 99%, and he’s there mad that he didn’t get 1% instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 07:06 PM
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Women are statistically more likely to be hit by downsizing, not less (cue tone shift: ‘well, that’s because they aren’t as good of employees.’) I do agree with you that trade and ‘adulting’ type things, from cooking to carpentry to ironing to car maintenance, should be included in school… for everyone. WRT bias, there are also studies that show that teachers call on boys more and grade boys easier, and studies that show that job applicants with male-coded names, with the same qualifications, ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 05:38 AM
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It’s ‘harder to achieve’ in part because men and boys have decided that education is ‘feminine.’ Boys and men can do well in school. Y’all were virtually the only ones doing well in school 100 years ago, and it’s still seen as masculine in China and other Asian countries to be a scholar or scientist.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 07:21 PM
0

‘Female’ isn’t intrinsically derogatory, no. Please re-read what I said.
/r/MensRights18/10/24 04:39 PM
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‘Males and females’ is not dehumanizing. ‘Men and women’ is not dehumanizing. ‘Men and females’ is dehumanizing. ‘Person with a uterus’ has ‘person’ right there, so no, it’s not dehumanizing. r/menandfemales
/r/MensRights17/10/24 06:32 AM
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Trump is absolutely sucking up to male voters.
/r/MensRights17/10/24 03:24 AM
5

Well, the ones in the OP are clearly sex workers trying to get around YT’s ban
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 07:53 AM
1

When I was in crew, the uniform was spandex shorts or spandex unitards and tshirts. Loose clothing could get caught in the slide of the seat. I walked across campus in my uniform sometimes, on my way to practice only, and yes, it turned guys heads… I was not wearing it to turn guys’ heads. I was wearing it because it was hot and I don’t want to either wear multiple layers, or carry extra clothing and get dressed again at the boathouse. My boyfriend claimed that women who dressed like that ‘wante…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 12:45 AM
1

Firstly, the gender gap is real and mostly due to the fact that women’s earning potential dramatically drops when they become mothers, whereas men’s does not drop when they become fathers. This is important because, second, contra your example, most women are not trophy wives who have zero responsibilities. Most women work. Even if you don’t care about the women themselves, their married partners are entitled to half of those women’s earnings, just like vice-versa, and their lowered earnings imp…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 11:04 PM
1

She should be responsible for breaking the marriage/relationship, absolutely. Also any kids (along with her AP) that result. But she is NOT responsible for HIS behavior. Only he is responsible for his behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 12:11 AM
1

Men blame women for all of these things, on this forum, and on other fora, and in other areas of the internet, ALL THE TIME. Just stick around for a bit. Ted Haggard’s whole religion blamed Ted Haggard’s wife when he cheated on her with a gay prostitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 08:35 PM
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I think it’s based on averaging the number of rapes. Some women are in really sucky conditions, and experience rape multiple times in their lifetimes.
/r/MensRights10/10/24 05:29 PM
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No, we are not. OP absolves the man of anything and everything short of violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 05:29 AM
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Go to his office hours and have a heart-to-heart discussion with him. He’s basing his opinion on his own limited experience, and is clearly ignorant of yours.
/r/MensRights09/10/24 06:46 PM
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AGAIN, I am not disagreeing with this. I am disagreeing with OP giving the dude carte blanche for any behavior short of physical violence, and blaming it all on the mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 06:35 PM
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It’s the title of the post. A dude not wanting to care for a kid that’s not his is sad if he’s been the kid’s dad it’s whole life- as the child of an adoptive dad I find it especially sad- but it’s not completely unreasonable. But OP specifically said that anything he does, short of violence, ‘is the woman’s fault.’ That leaves a LOT of room for viciousness and stupidity on the man’s part, that OP thinks should be blamed on the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 05:40 PM
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Terps: ‘women don’t take responsibility for anything.’ Also terps: Man has a child outside of marriage? The woman’s fault. Man is abusive to the mother of his child? The woman’s fault. Man abandons his own child? The woman’s fault. Man cheats on his spouse/partner? The woman’s fault. Man finds out he’s not the father, loses his shit, and ruins multiple lives, including his own, and as long as it’s not direct physical violence, it’s the woman’s fault. Terps are a bunch of whiny, overgrown toddler…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 06:30 PM
-2

A man ‘not being required to stick around’ is not the same a a man ‘not being responsible for anything he does.’
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 06:15 PM
1

That’s not the same as ‘not being responsible for anything he does.’
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 06:13 PM
1

And, per Harris’ answer, men are not being drafted in the US, which is rhetorical country she is running for president of.
/r/MensRights08/10/24 05:11 PM
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And meanwhile, women are being forced to gestate, and to risk their lives and health for doomed fetuses now.
/r/MensRights08/10/24 04:05 PM
-4

Are you suggesting that there is actually a secret draft and a massive brainwashing campaign?
/r/MensRights08/10/24 02:36 PM
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Maybe because there is no draft?
/r/MensRights08/10/24 04:14 AM
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When you know the answer and someone else does not, and you insist that you are correct, that can be taken as arrogance or competitiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 06:10 AM
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I think it depends on the motivation. If he's actually accusing her of cheating, then the paranoia and lack of trust are a problem; I think that's' why a lot of women are offended by it. If it's just the biological 'men can only ever be 99% sure, where women can be 100% sure' thing, then I don't have a problem. It's 'distrust,' vs. 'trust but verify.'
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 06:06 PM
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If you actually suspect them of cheating on you, yeah, you should have a discussion about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 05:09 PM
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Or frame it as, ‘let’s do 23 and me to find out if the baby is a carrier for genetic condition x that runs in my family,’ or whatever, instead of, ‘let’s do paternity testing to find out if you cheated on me.’
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 03:28 PM
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I can definitely see it both ways. I think it’d be better for everyone if it was just routine/ opt out for parents at birth (it’s invasive to do it while the woman is still pregnant, so at birth is better). That way it doesn’t feel like a specific accusation that the man in question is being more suspicious of his partner than any normal man who doesn’t have the intrinsic, literally gut-deep assurance that a woman feels with her kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 03:26 PM
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I mean, being a rapist is significantly worse than cheating on your spouse, but other than that, yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 03:19 PM
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TL, DR: ‘My girlfriend Jessica broke up with me because her friends pointed out my toxic traits and told her that she deserved someone better.’
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 05:10 PM
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TL, DR: ‘Waaaaahhhhh I find this woman hot but I don’t meet her qualifications.’
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 05:04 PM
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Men die with prostate cancer, not from it, because basically all men will develop prostate cancer if they live long enough. And, again, I said “years of life lost.”Even if an 85 year old person dies from cancer, that is not the same as a 25 year old person dying from cancer. Note the difference between prostate and testicular cancer; the latter would make a better target: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7710589/ Edit: with all of that said, the funding for breast cancer is dispropor…
/r/MensRights23/09/24 01:09 AM
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Fewer lost years of life from prostate cancer than breast cancer.
/r/MensRights22/09/24 05:11 PM
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“I mean all boys lie as well, but why are girls cheating more in 21st century. Multiple researches have been done…” Sounds like an article written by a Nigerian prince. Or a Russian. Second article doesn’t say anything about women cheating more than men, and btw: https://ifstudies.org/blog/who-cheats-more-the-demographics-of-cheating-in-america What I can access of the 3rd one says men and women cheat at similar rates, not that women cheat more.
/r/MensRights22/09/24 03:23 AM
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“Legitimate” really? You’re seriously going with the ‘tabloids tell us the secret truth’ angle?
/r/MensRights22/09/24 03:01 AM
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The NY Post? Seriously? And “science shows”?
/r/MensRights21/09/24 06:43 AM
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You’re confusing hierarchal behavior with nurturing, and maternal behavior Not even a little You’re saying that a private follows a general’s orders for the same reason why a mother acts as a servant to her child snort No. I’m saying that a private does what the general says for the same reason that a woman does what her husband says in Afghanistan. Neither has much of a choice in the matter. And a woman ‘serves’ her kids for the same reason a man ‘serves’ his kids. Women naturally act feminine,…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 03:12 AM
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I definitely think it’s less harmful to actual women, but in some ways I think it can be more harmful to men, if they have any desire to ever be with actual women. Porn in general is the human equivalent of the shiny, nubby bottle for the Australian bottle beetles, and the more artificial it gets, the better it triggers the factors that our brains tell us are ‘sexy’ without actual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:22 PM
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snort All of the traits traditionally considered “feminine” are traits that low-status humans instinctively display, regardless of gender. Women are “becoming less feminine” because they are less and less likely to see themselves as low-status. This is a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 05:39 PM
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I emphasized ‘humans’ to emphasize that being passive/submissive to someone who presents themself as a leader who will take care of them is a human trait, not a female one. It varies from person to person, but it’s not gendered. Look at how passive Trump supporters are: completely willing to be led by someone, even a known fraud, who says he’ll take care of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 01:02 AM
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Yeah, no. humans will act passive if someone they trust offers to be a parent, but that’s not a healthy relationship in either direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 12:27 PM
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snort This is what that sounds like: ‘the ONLY possible answer is for women to go back to being servants/ pumping out workers for the capitalist machine or THE WORLD WILL LITERALLY END!!!!!1!1!!1!’ Sure. We need kids. But 1)the population is actually still increasing, and given that >99% of our genes are identical from human to human, that basically means that my genes, and yours, will be just fine regardless of whom is having them. 2)The way to get women to want kids is to set up a society wher…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 12:25 PM
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some women act that way naturally. some women perform it because society imposes it on them. And some say, ‘fuck that, I’m going to dye my hair blue because I like blue, regardless of what men think about it, and I’m going to earn my own money, have my own house, raise puppies, travel, and have a long, adventurous (or quiet, peaceful) life full of friendship and dogs and cats and serenity, and my nieces/nephews will get my stuff because nowadays it takes more than two working adults to successfu…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 03:05 AM
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Everyone just blinks out of existence, whether they have children or not. DNA is not magic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 02:55 AM
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I rejected motherhood because it was tantamount to suicide in the modern ‘every man is an island,’ laissez-faire, libertarian west, and I made sure I never needed an abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 02:55 AM
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how odd. I've never met any.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 06:20 AM
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I think it’s really important to have ‘lived with’ relationships, whether that’s housemates or romantic ones. There’s a lot of stuff that our families do for us, that we’re not even aware of, and ways of interacting that only works with parents. We have to learn to compromise and pull our own weight. And we have to learn what we can and cannot stand. Just to take an obvious/extreme example, I was pretty libertarian about drug use until I had a couple of pothead housemates. I still think it shoul…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:04 PM
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The women who split the bill are also the ones who won’t be subservient. A lot of the guys who whine about this want a woman who will do the home & child care & act like a servant, but also contribute a full-time income.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:27 AM
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Women do not dress up to date level ‘every day.’
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:24 AM
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Already married. Sorry not sorry.
/r/MensRights17/09/24 05:13 AM
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This is deranged.
/r/MensRights17/09/24 03:15 AM
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*Everyone* wants someone with the best of all possible features, men included, but when push comes to shove and a choice has to be made, different people have different priorities.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 04:06 PM
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Yes. He’s exceptional.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 05:48 AM
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The women who say that want personality pursue personality. Those women value personality in themselves as well, though, and therefore invest in learning things and becoming better people, rather than in looking elegant or prettying themselves up. Women who invest a great deal in looking their best are also the women who want a man who is interested in looking his best, and those are also the women who attract 90% of male attention, because as so many men on this forum say, most of y’all couldn’…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 03:20 AM
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I’ve done so in the past. I didn’t go on many dates, not least because it was fucking expensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 03:17 AM
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If you think that’s what it’s about, your wife isn’t the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 06:08 PM
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There are a lot of things you can do to make the likelihood of divorce lower, without being coercive or a jackass.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 12:09 AM
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15 or 60. Don’t drag the younger Gen Xers into this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 12:08 AM
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Exactly. Just because it’s the woman who files, doesn’t mean it’s the woman who killed the marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 11:27 PM
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🤦🏻‍♀️ 1)Your claim is not supported. Why do you suppose a medical journal for emergency physicians might have used that number, hmmmmm? Are you seriously claiming that they just multiplied it out to grandstand on hyperbole? 2)there is zero evidence evidence that women do more DV than men, even if you claim that shouting and murder are the same. 3)I highly encourage any men with SI- which disproportionately occurs after a man’s partner has left him, btw- to seek help. Help IS available. You don’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 05:45 PM
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No, actually don’t know what you mean. And yeah, when the injuries are multiple orders of magnitude more frequent, and are direct and unavoidable, rather than indirect and by choice…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 04:50 AM
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Some women do find the bad guys exciting. Other women do not. If he wants to attract a crazy glamor girl and inevitably get divorced, let him go for that. If he understands that relationships are work, and wants a happy, stable life, then being happy and stable, and having secure male friendships, will attract a quieter, more well-adjusted girl who will understand that relationships are work, not fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 03:51 AM
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https://www.acepnow.com/article/emergency-departments-often-first-point-care-domestic-violence-trauma-injury-cases/ My source is the American College of Emergency Physicians. If you had ever worked in an ED, or with an ED, you might realize that the initial code is often not necessarily associated with the actual, final diagnosis. Sometimes they’re not even tangentially related.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 03:17 AM
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From one of the links I already posted, which you apparently didn’t read, quote: “…despite declining rates, the United States still has the highest rate of DV homicide of any industrialized country. On average, three women are murdered daily by intimate partners.1,2 Literature shows that 79.2 percent of DV-related homicides were perpetrated by current intimate partners and 14.3 percent by former intimate partners. Approximately one in 10 victims experienced some form of violence in the month pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 06:19 PM
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That is specious and disingenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 06:15 PM
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Did you miss the part where I said, “it’s not equality”?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 05:45 PM
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1)Men do not commit suicide at nearly the rate that women end up in the ED. 2)I agree that male suicide is a huge problem; it is strongly associated with disproportionate male gun use. I strongly support red flag laws, and ending the stigma against men seeking mental health care. 3)the idea that women’s ‘nagging’ is a statistically significant factor in male suicide is not supported by any study I have seen or my personal experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 05:44 PM
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You consider someone putting their wife in the ED with broken bones, the same as her yelling at them?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 04:19 PM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 05:34 AM
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Responding to points in long form is not ranting. You’re being disingenuous wrt the DV situation, or you’re just ignorant, IDK which. As I said- and the studies back me on this- men and women commit DV at similar rates, if you consider yelling to be the same as physical violence. If you consider violence separately, men are far and away the majority perpetrators. https://www.health.ny.gov/statistics/sparcs/sb/docs/sb13.pdf https://www.acepnow.com/article/emergency-departments-often-first-point-c…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 05:33 AM
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‘Females and men’ It’s not equality when males hoard resources and deliberately keep women out of power and out of financial independence.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 10:18 PM
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snort well, that’s just a whole pile of ‘woman bad’ accusations. Women are bad in proportions similar to men, but men are significantly bigger and stronger, statistically, and have more financial and legal power, statistically, so they can do more harm when they are bad, statistically. Women yell at men in roughly equal proportions in terms of DV, but something like 90+% of ED visits due to DV are the woman as the victim. Women are not ‘favored’ in divorce. Marital assets are supposed to be join…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 10:17 PM
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But the point stands: a woman who is raped is far less likely to see justice than a man who is accused of rape having been falsely accused. And if you look at the general population, far more women are sexually assaulted and/or raped at some point in their lives than men are accused of rape, because most men aren’t rapists but all women can be victims, so the concern of the average woman about being raped is far more justifiable than the concern of the average man over being falsely accused.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 06:14 PM
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I was obviously hyperbolic, but not by much. https://rainn.org/statistics/criminal-justice-system https://evawintl.org/best_practice_faqs/false-reports-percentage/
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:48 PM
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Statistically, a raped woman is about 10,000 less likely to see justice than a male is to be unjustly accused of rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:43 PM
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‘Men and females’ Same reason I care that country clubs not be exclusively male places.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:41 PM
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I strongly doubt those convictions were actually false, given how difficult it is to convict rapists.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 02:15 PM
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Do you mean woman, or do you also distrust girls, female dogs, female birds, livestock, etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 02:13 PM
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Females? Do you mean women? Or are you implying that he avoids little girls, female pets, female livestock, etc? Given that his stated reason is to ‘avoid temptation,’ that implies some pretty negative things about him. Also, there’s a LOT of space between ‘rapist’ and ‘can’t be within 20 feet of a woman.’
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 02:10 PM
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Oh, look. Another man projecting his own feelings onto women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:29 AM
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Not all men. Yes, all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:26 AM
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LOL It’s not ‘me too’ that made women think this, it’s their own fucking experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:25 AM
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Pence was applying Pence rules at the workplace long before me too, because he’s a fundamentalist nut job, not because he was afraid of being accused of something.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:23 AM
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It’s not women melting down over this
/r/MensRights10/09/24 05:05 AM
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Imagine thinking that taking care of kids is all, or even mostly, ‘playing with them.’
/r/MensRights09/09/24 04:01 AM
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There is the chance of another guy, and you are taking a risk- and, of course, so is she. There’s always the chance of another woman, too. That’s part of why there is so much drama - music, books, movies, plays, etc- about romance, and have been since music and drama and books were a thing. We’re all vulnerable, and we’re all a little bit afraid. Men and women both vary from individual to individual in how naturally monogamous they are. The key for happy relationships isn’t necessarily for every…
/r/ExRedPill09/09/24 03:13 AM
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Attractive people are treated better due to being attractive. Both women and men who do not toe the line and perform attractiveness are treated worse by the opposite sex (and by homosexual members of their own sex) for not toeing that line.
/r/MensRights08/09/24 12:22 AM
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It doesn’t help that a lot of thugs actually believe themselves to be protectors.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 05:23 AM
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My taste in fiction matches what I say I want exactly, but it’s fucking difficult to find authors that write good, healthy relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 05:18 AM
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So, like, bad relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 05:32 PM
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Have any sane women treated you horribly?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 04:50 PM
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Downside is that you’d be distancing yourself from reality, but hey. You do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 05:10 AM
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Yes. So, basically, his kids are going to private schools, taking vacations around the world with their peer group, and dressing like their peer group.
/r/MensRights01/09/24 04:54 AM
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I linked peer-reviewed articles that were all directly about the actual effects that online harassment has, partly because you casually admitted the premise of the claim that you initially posted to doubt- that harassment online is worse for women and that it is getting worse- but then denied that it is a problem because it is ‘mere harassment.’ And now you now casually dismissed these studies on the effects of harassment as ‘not relevant’ immediately after claiming that online harassment isn’t …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 04:44 AM
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Depends on what you mean by ‘dating.’ I’ve never had sex with a guy without being in an exclusive relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 08:27 PM
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So, I got a DM this week from someone who took the time to make a new account specifically to DM me a paragraph about how he hoped I get raped to death by a “n###er,” without the bleeping, and with plenty of details about how I should die a horrible death. It’s been a while since I’ve gotten one, partly because I’m not as strident as I used to be and partly because I admit to being middle-aged and therefore not the target demographic. Despite the fact that they DM’d me, I’m old enough to know th…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 08:21 PM
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Are you aware that you’re responding to more than one person?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 06:21 AM
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Here’s a popular-press article for an easy start. https://www.forbes.com/sites/ewelinaochab/2023/03/08/when-the-harassment-of-women-moves-online/ Quote: “A study of 51 countries revealed 38% of women had personally experienced online harassment. “Only 1 in 4 reported it to the relevant authorities and nearly 9 in 10 opted to limit their online activity, thereby increasing the gender digital divide.” These trends were only exacerbated during the pandemic. Another study, by the Pew Research Center…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 06:17 AM
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Non sequitur
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 06:09 AM
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Women are very rarely perpetrators of rape or murder on other women, so them focusing on defending against men makes strong statistical sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 11:56 PM
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It’s a pretty well-known phenomenon sociologically that increased online interactions in modern life are leading to more harassment and threats against women and girls. If I cite sources, will you actually read them?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 11:54 PM
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So, recently someone (probably, but not necessarily, from this forum) made an account specifically to DM me and say that he hoped that I get raped to death by a n!66er (his word, not mine), and blah blah blah way too much effort to elaborate on how he hoped I died. I reported it, deleted it, and blocked the 1 karma account, as one does. Got a response from Reddit that someone who wants me to be raped to death ‘is not in violation of community standards.’ I used to lurk as a presumptive male on t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 11:50 PM
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Tell that to the capitalists buying up single family homes, and not paying enough to actually raise families on.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 05:52 PM
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Tell me you don’t know what ‘toxic masculinity’ means without telling me.
/r/MensRights29/08/24 02:20 AM
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I’m aware of what multidimensional scaling is, genius. I’ve done it before. Compressing complex sets of factors into single data points is still specious. And modern dating is more like pre-agricultural dating on many variables.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 11:00 PM
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Terps: post histrionic screed about how not getting paternity tests kills people and costs billions (without citation) Also terps: ‘women being emotional are the source and cause of the problem!’
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 12:09 AM
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What ‘drama’ have I created? Pointing out a problem is not “creating” a problem. And yeah, men know how to do housework… which makes the weaponized incompetence and/or blatant laziness all the more frustrating. You, individually, seem like someone who sees the problem but does the ‘see/hear/speak no evil’ monkey dance. La la la la this is fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 11:14 PM
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Compressing any set of complex behaviors into a single data point is specious. And no, pre- and post-agricultural mating behaviors are not more like each other than what we do today. If anything, modern dating is more like pre-agricultural dating, with agricultural dating being the exception. I agree with you on the diversity of coexisting mating behaviors. What’s interesting with that is that the two extremes - zero commitment, single mothers with multiple baby-daddies, and hyper-religious, ful…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 05:59 PM
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My house gets to this degree of clutter and dirt if I, personally, do not clean it, as did my husband’s house before I moved in with him. There’s a reason the stereotype of ‘bachelor pads’ exists
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 05:53 PM
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There are a lot of posts about specific men doing specific things, examples of how individual women have been treated, and that adds up to data about populations in general that jibes with the sociological data on that subject. But there isn’t a lot of ‘man hating.’ Top post by ‘hot’ is ‘Fathers don’t usually die during childbirth.’ Not man-hating. Top post by ‘top, now,’ is ‘more women join abortion lawsuit against Texas.’ Not man-hating. Top post of all time is ‘world day without a hijab.’ Not…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 05:48 PM
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I’m a subscriber, genius.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 05:41 AM
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Where do you see me patting myself on the back for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 05:30 AM
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Oh, I am definitely never going to do it. What valor do you think I am stealing?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 05:29 AM
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Dude. Take a breath. It’s almost impossible to read that. And I disagree. There are a lot of women bashing a specific type of man: overgrown man-children who do not believe, or who believe but do not wish to act, that women are not real people the same way that men are, and that men are entitled to servitude by women. That women enjoy being degraded by men, if they’re attractive enough. Hell, you see plenty of that on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 05:29 AM
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Cleaning up feces and vomit all day, doing all of the laundry, the floor cleaning, the dusting, the cooking, the dishes, the mail and appointment keeping, and never sleeping for more than 3 hours straight? Huh. More power to you. Personally, I’d rather die.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 05:26 AM
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‘Women like to complicate things’ = ‘women get upset if the house is so cluttered and dirty that it is dangerous for the baby.’
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 01:05 AM
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SAHPs work.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 01:03 AM
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The article isn’t wrong. It’s stressful to be (effectively) the sole breadwinner, and it’s also unhealthy to obsess about money to that degree.
/r/MensRights27/08/24 12:54 AM
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Well, first of all, you’re reducing a very complex set of behaviors into a single data point, and that’s specious. Secondly, mating behavior pre- and post- agriculture are vastly different from each other, based on every anthropological and archaeological at day we have, so do you mean pre-agricultural mating behaviors, or post-agricultural mating behaviors? If you think that birth control has revolutionized things, I agree with you, but I would disagree that it is more revolutionary than the ad…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 12:11 AM
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That manosphere vision of ‘feminists’ does not represent most feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 11:20 PM
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Those criteria being, ‘does not make things better for men by making things worse for women.’ Yeah…
/r/MensRights25/08/24 05:28 PM
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Solution: pay women for what is currently unpaid or low-paid labor, at the same level that you pay men for labor of similar education levels. Then tax them appropriately.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 05:16 PM
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They practice serial monogamy without formal commitment or punishments for breakups.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 05:08 PM
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Barely legal women are not at ‘peak fertility.’ The peak in survival of both infants and mothers happens between about 22-26.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 05:07 PM
1

Partial agreement. Disagree on the ‘we are far from our evolutionary past’ part, as we never stop talking evolving and there is no single ‘evolutionary past.’
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 05:05 PM
3

I’m happily married, and my husband seems to like me well enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 05:04 PM
1

I have literally never seen a feminist make the argument that it is ‘natural’ for human men to fight with each other over ‘females.’ Spurious comparisons of humans to other clades is the realm of manospherians, terps, and militant vegans. It is absolutely true that some people don’t deserve love, and I include some women in that. Some people are just sociopaths. Others want to live a life of effective parasitism on another person. No one should have to submit to either thing, and most people, of…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 04:48 PM
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When I see women complaining about the dating market, they’re not complaining about the attractiveness of men or lack thereof; they’re complaining about baby-men with low social and emotional intelligence who think that the women in the porn they watch are actually enjoying themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 01:57 PM
3

Yet another evo-psych article claiming the mantle of ‘science’ for what amounts to the author’s feelings on the topic. The falsehoods start with the first highlighted sentence: there are a crapton of species with females who neither require nor want the ‘protection’ of males, but the author believed it and didn’t bother to research it.
/r/MensRights23/08/24 02:41 AM
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I’ve seen a LOT of videos and testimonies from women whose husbands started out doing half, and then gradually checked out over the course of a relationship, especially when they had kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 05:17 PM
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Villages yes, single income homes no. The family’s a lot more vulnerable to the vagaries of the economy when only one parent is employed. It was different when one person could expect to work for the same company for 40 years and retire with a pension, but that way has been gone for half a century thanks to modern capitalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 02:40 AM
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I don’t think we should ignore them at all- like I said, it bothers men enough that it should be routine/opt out, at birth.
/r/MensRights18/08/24 02:38 AM
0

See the second % I mentioned. 2% of births overall, in western countries (higher in places with more social and financial reproductive coercion).
/r/MensRights18/08/24 02:36 AM
-1

France can’t speak. In western countries, it’s like 30% in cases where the named father has a reason to suspect paternity fraud. It’s like 2% of all births overall- still too high, but hardly an epidemic.
/r/MensRights18/08/24 12:08 AM
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It doesn’t matter what you ‘choose,’ there just isn’t enough support. New mothers look down the barrel of roughly 5 years of never to rarely getting a full night’s sleep, often with their husbands snoring away in the bedroom, for each child; and being responsible for 90% of the child and home care, as well as (often) working full time. Everything they ever wanted and everything they used to do for fun gets put on the back burner, up to and including (often) bathing themselves and self-care. So, …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 11:38 PM
0

Eh, I see what you mean. None of us wants to admit that our friends are the bad ones, and we all sympathize more with people we understand than those we do not.
/r/MensRights17/08/24 10:16 PM
1

Having a man accept my rejection calmly, and back off without throwing a tantrum, flipped my lack of attraction 180 degrees the one time it happened. I’m married now, but if something similarly happened today, I’d seriously search my brain for single friends who might be on the market. Green flag guys are rare gems.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 09:12 PM
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Women do not lie about rape more than anyone lies about having been burgled or experienced road rage, statistically, and paternity fraud is quite rare in cultures where women can choose the fathers of their children. I’m 100% fine with making paternity tests routine at birth, though, because so many men seem to fear this so much. Cheek swabs are harmless, and making it routine would eliminate the sense of distrust a lot of women perceive around the question.
/r/MensRights17/08/24 09:08 PM
12

It was strawmanning my comment to mean that ‘only the self matters.’ There is a LOT of ground between ‘I am the only thing that matters’ and ‘I matter so little that suicide is fine.’
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 09:03 PM
28

Motherhood is suicide of the self.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 06:05 PM
2

Exactly. The fundamental concept is not wrong.
/r/MensRights17/08/24 06:05 PM
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I came into my marriage with more wealth than my husband, so yeah: I’d have felt kind of insulted if he asked me to sign a prenup.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 05:55 PM
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Being entitled to something is not the same as ‘forcing other people to grant it.’ I’m entitled to others being polite drivers on the freeway. So are you. I’m not allowed to go ballistic and rage if they’re not polite, though. ‘Entitlement’ in the social sense means that you should be able to expect it as a matter of course, and people who do not grant it are bad people. If I let a door slam in your face, on purpose, with no provocation, that is disrespectful, and I am a bad person. If it’s on a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 01:31 AM
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I don’t think women are ‘encouraged’ to be as promiscuous as men. I think men are encouraged to valorize promiscuity, whether they want it or not, and promiscuity in women who want it has been destigmatized to some degree. I do think that men, in general, are probably naturally somewhat more promiscuous than women, in general, because there historically were greater physiological impacts on a woman for promiscuity. It makes sense that evolution would drive some degree of differential there, if t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 05:41 PM
0

If you think being a husband and father is about money, yeah: you will be treated as a walking wallet.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:23 AM
1

Terps: ‘of course I value family and partnership!’ Also terps: ‘if I had to choose between family and banging with no responsibility, I’d totally choose banging.’
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 10:40 PM
1

Yes, I am entitled to a modicum of respect by dint of my humanity. So are you. I’m not talking ‘bow,’ I’m talking ‘don’t spit in each other’s faces, unless they spit on you first.’
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 07:57 PM
1

Terps do not care about pursuing intimacy and relationships, unless by ‘intimacy’ you mean ‘no-strings sex with as many women as possible.’ A huge gripe by terps, on this forum over and over, is that women who readily have sex no-strings sex do so with some men more than others. As for romance movies and novels, the men in them are fantasies: caring, grown-up males who are attractive but don’t fuck anything that moves.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 05:15 AM
8

Well, all people are entitled to a modicum of respect as long as they themselves are not acting disrespectfully.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 09:47 PM
5

Hahhahahhahahhahahhahahhah
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 04:56 PM
2

Tell me you’ve never actually been bone-tired without telling me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 04:55 PM
1

Begging the question.
/r/MensRights11/08/24 01:39 AM
1

What is this ‘personhood’ that you supposedly love about someone, if it’s not their individuality?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 01:37 AM
5

It’s almost like the Law and Order party isn’t actually for Law and Order
/r/MensRights08/08/24 12:46 AM
15

This
/r/MensRights08/08/24 12:45 AM
2

“White men and married families” Wow
/r/MensRights08/08/24 12:45 AM
1

Try r/passportbros
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 07:07 PM
1

If the Asian woman he married actually sees him as attractive, as opposed to being a financial resource that she can’t afford to pass up because her younger siblings won’t get to go to school if she doesn’t, then more power to them both. If it’s a marriage of financial convenience, even, and both parties accept that… again, that happens. She’s basically a professional trophy wife. It’s not ideal and not admirable, but it happens. If he’s basically buying a wife/servant, and she’s forced to do it…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 07:05 PM
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I don’t pay as much attention to the news, and haven’t seen her saying this. Disappointing if so.
/r/MensRights03/08/24 03:43 PM
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Lucky you: you haven’t hung around incel fora a lot. It’s pretty common with them.
/r/MensRights02/08/24 06:22 PM
1

The abstract doesn’t provide any numbers, and I’m not paying for a study for an internet argument😜
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 06:18 PM
1

Both things can exist without extremism and hatred. It is the extremism and hatred that is the problem, not the lack of sex either by choice or without choice.
/r/MensRights02/08/24 06:14 PM
0

Men are also victims of rape. This redefinition helped those men. And yes, it hurts men and women who are rapists.
/r/MensRights01/08/24 10:54 PM
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https://feminist.org/news/100000-have-told-the-fbi-that-rape-is-rape-have-you/ https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/crime-in-the-u.s.-2016/resource-pages/rape-addendum#:~:text=In%202013%2C%20the%20Summary%20UCR,definition%20of%20rape%20which%20was
/r/MensRights01/08/24 06:01 PM
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Feminists got the definition of rape changed such that men can be considered victims of rape as well as women.
/r/MensRights01/08/24 05:45 PM
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Yeah. He comes from a culture that takes things a bit more seriously than most Americans, and in think that stuck with him even though he was born here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 05:17 PM
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No True Scotsman fallacy
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 04:23 PM
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I dated my now-husband for 6 months before we had sex. Never did hookups or casual sex before him. Sooo. Yeah, I agree with OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 04:22 PM
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Nobody cares about men who actually GTOW. The problem is that the MGTOW movement is full of men who don’t actually want to GTOW, so they spend every last second on a sort of sour grapes exercise of egging each other on about how horrible women are. As for passport bros, there are a lot of them who basically go abroad to purchase a bangmaid/mommy more attractive and subservient than they could get in a western country, and anyone who wants a bangmaid/mommy is kind of pathetic. There are also some…
/r/MensRights01/08/24 03:36 PM
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You ‘see that all the time,’ hmmm😂
/r/MensRights01/08/24 03:27 PM
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Or because they want the status of ‘having a woman’ to impress other men.
/r/MensRights01/08/24 03:26 PM
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Neither not wanting to date nor wanting to date is pathetic. What’s pathetic is incels who literally want to enslave women so that they can “be allotted a female” by the state, and MGTOW who spend every second obsessing about women rather than GTOW. This is not rocket science.
/r/MensRights01/08/24 03:25 PM
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That would be more significant if the n of your entire class was 15.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 01:56 AM
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Re-read. Still looks like you’re talking about BJs
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 09:17 PM
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…what?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 05:24 PM
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I was responding only to the last sentence. Nobody ‘grinds on a silicone dildo.’
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 05:19 PM
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The entire pleasure in giving a blow job is the fact that the penis in question is attached to the man I love, and he’s enjoying himself. I have never, ever, heard of a woman pretending to give a BJ to a dildo outside of ‘how to give a blowjob’ classes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 04:54 PM
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-recognize that women are human beings, and that they are neither stupider nor more emotional than men, on average. -recognize that the things that women want and need are not less logical than the things that men want and need. -recognize that both men and women are unique individuals, and that there is more to pair-bonding than finding someone with a similar level of physical hotness.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 03:22 AM
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I've never gone to bars or other hookup places, but the same OKC data set that men like to cite, where women rate most men as 'below average,' (there was a reason for that other than actual looks, but that's a different topic), also showed that women actually *messaged* average men the most, wheras men actually *message* the hottest women the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 04:37 PM
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I, personally, am fine with coffee dates. I proposed coffee dates myself when I was dating. It's low-stakes, public, and easy... and I'm an independent, feminist, career woman who has never had more than a passing interest in having kids. My stakes in finding a man were pretty similar to a man's stakes in finding a woman - lower, even, than most men, because I'm pretty content being alone, too. But a woman who is interested in having kids, and is going to take that serious hit to her income - wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 04:29 PM
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snort Tell that to the Canaans and Palestinians. Judaism and Christianity have just as much of a history of war and (ahem) Crusades (it’s right there in the word) as Islam. The Bible is full of genocides that are dismissed as genocides because they were ‘ordered by God,’ so the victims were allllllll bad, down to the last infant boy dashed on the rocks. Western history is full of wars over religion. That’s part of why the American founders wanted a secular government. Conservatism has been full …
/r/MensRights28/07/24 05:50 AM
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The dates are the hob interview. I made it clear in my post that I was talking about the actual job, and that the stakes are a lot higher for a woman ‘interviewing’ men than they are for employers looking for paid labor.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 05:28 AM
1

When a man and a woman love each other very much…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 02:07 AM
1

Again, you haven’t been paying attention. I can pull videos for you, but only if you promise to watch them.
/r/MensRights28/07/24 01:54 AM
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Firstly, most post-war western men are, indeed, quite tolerant. However, there is a regressive subset of them with a toddler’s view of adulthood, that being a ‘grown up’ means that you get to say what you want and do what you want, whenever you want, any to whomever you want, and that subset is having a giant tantrum over the fact that grownups cannot actually do any of that without consequences. They’ve grown hateful of the people telling them that the world isn’t like that any more, if it ever…
/r/MensRights28/07/24 01:51 AM
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No, merely contradicting the statements that 1)there are only ever 2 genders and 2)that genes are 100% in control. However, I think even trans people would mostly agree that being trans is not ideal, and maybe even equivalent to a birth defect- one that can be corrected, to at least some extent, by surgery. Just like other birth defects.
/r/MensRights28/07/24 01:48 AM
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It’s not just religion- they’re 100% happy to abandon the literal tenets of their professed religion to worship the orange calf
/r/MensRights28/07/24 01:45 AM
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You haven’t been paying attention
/r/MensRights28/07/24 01:45 AM
1

Accepting a man as one’s mate allows the very creation of one’s children to be on him.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 01:44 AM
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In addition to intersex people, already mentioned, people and animals can be exposed to androgizing or feminizing chemical in utero, and there are also congenital conditions that make genetic males into de-facto females via androgen insensitivity.
/r/MensRights27/07/24 11:14 PM
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There’s a fuckton of hatred on the right and in Evangelical Christianity, too.
/r/MensRights27/07/24 11:05 PM
1

Now imagine that successfully getting a job means that the ‘employer’ is literally putting their body and their children in your hands.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 05:29 PM
1

Awww, look at the little boy pretending to have scored an emotional point :)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 11:12 PM
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snort I’m seeing something, but it’s not about my data😂
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 08:22 PM
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Ok, the only data I’ve seen that actually supports those claims are the OKC data… which come from a point in time when OKC would show people if someone had rated them high or very high. I myself was on OKC at that time, and I (like a lot of women) stopped rating any men in those ranks within a day of trying it, after it induced men to contact me when I had only meant to sort them and then go back later for a deeper look. So, cumulatively, there were very few men being put into those ranks. Secon…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 08:20 PM
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Young women are not having tons of sex. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-myths-of-sex/202407/is-voluntary-celibacy-on-the-rise?amp
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:51 AM
1

‘Women are human.’ ‘Source’
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:48 AM
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Yes. Terps should absolutely leave American women alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:45 AM
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2 weeks in several cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 06:01 PM
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No, I don’t. But the simple fact of the matter is that the “choices” are not equal for men and women. If they women have different consequences for making the same choice as men, then the choice is not responsible for the consequences, it’s the fact the at they did it while female.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 06:00 PM
3

I have multiple co-workers who took less than a month off after giving birth. It’s the US: there is no paid maternal leave. Other co-workers have become the primary caretakers and only work part time in order to be able to take care of the kids. The former is absolutely more secure for the woman, and potentially the children, if the husband looses his job or has an affair and decides to marry a 20 year old when he hits his 40’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 10:27 PM
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Then, since she is sacrificing her current income and lifetime earning potential for their children, she should be entitled to half of the extra earnings he gets by being able to work more because she is doing the child care.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 10:24 PM
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Let’s say you have a married, heterosexual couple. They mutually decide to have children. The man’s income, statistically, will go up. The woman’s income, statistically, will go down. Did her income go down because of her ‘choice’ to have children? Why wouldn’t his income do the same, if it was about the choice to have children?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 07:49 PM
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Hundreds or thousands of living human cells (in addition to the superficial dry, dead ones) are ripped from their comfortable, supportive environment- which evolved to perfectly support them- to be cast adrift on the wind, settling out as dust- or to be consumed by fungus under the nails.
/r/MensRights23/07/24 03:58 AM
1

Scratching your arm is killing human life.
/r/MensRights23/07/24 01:59 AM
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The men who whine about ‘the friend zone’ do so because they do not value friendship and see women as useful only for sex. You’re basically admitting that you do not see women as real people, and only give them the time of day if you want to manipulate them into fucking you with superficial niceness.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 09:17 PM
1

This is the correct answer for 98% of the people reading the OP. If you don’t know, it is ok to say that you don’t know.
/r/MensRights22/07/24 08:03 PM
1

They realize it; they just don’t care to sacrifice themselves to prevent it.
/r/MensRights22/07/24 08:02 PM
1

Much constructive. Very rights.
/r/MensRights21/07/24 07:41 PM
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Your interpretation is… novel. https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/the-fetus-in-jewish-law/
/r/MensRights21/07/24 04:41 PM
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🤦🏻‍♀️ why do you deny any responsibility at all because you can’t fix the entire problem by yourself? Just have male friends. Pay attention when they’re suffering. Don’t sell them to just ‘buck it up’ or ‘be a man.’ Offer support. Encourage therapy. Encourage medicine, if that’s what they need. Let them talk to you. Be the change you wish to see. That’s all any of us can do to actually fix things. whining on the internet and blaming women for all of your suffering has about as much actual effect…
/r/MensRights20/07/24 06:32 PM
0

Development inside the uterus is preparing a receptacle, not building a soul. I’ve seen enough literal death to know that sometimes a body is empty, even when it still looks just fine. The body is just a body. https://churchandstate.org.uk/2017/03/hey-conservatives-the-bible-says-when-a-fetus-is-alive-and-its-not-when-you-think/
/r/MensRights20/07/24 06:28 PM
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All that says is that the soul exists before and outside of the fetus, not when it is put into the fetus.
/r/MensRights20/07/24 06:22 PM
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We’re all responsible for each other and for the cultural zeitgeist that causes this.
/r/MensRights20/07/24 03:35 AM
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No, they really aren’t. They have reflex arcs to build their nervous system and develop muscle tone, but those are definitionally unconscious
/r/MensRights20/07/24 02:48 AM
0

According to the Bible, yes. It’s when it breathes on its own.
/r/MensRights20/07/24 02:47 AM
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Being physically attached to another human for life support is not the same thing as needing support from one’s community.
/r/MensRights20/07/24 02:46 AM
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There are plenty of parasites that do not, for various reasons, cause immune responses in the host. The reason that a fetus isn’t a parasite is that parasitism is definitionally one species using the resources of another species, in a way that harms the host. If the fetus caused the exact same effects in the host but was of a different species, it absolutely would fit the definition of a parasite.
/r/MensRights20/07/24 02:45 AM
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FWIW, by the biological definition it just as alive, and just as human, as the cells in your tongue or your liver. ‘Life’ isn’t the question. Personhood is.
/r/MensRights20/07/24 02:40 AM
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Eating a fresh sprig of parsley is ‘killing life.’
/r/MensRights20/07/24 02:38 AM
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Call it whatever you want. Just fucking do something about it.
/r/MensRights20/07/24 02:34 AM
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I think we’d be happy if we could just lock them up after they’ve jizzed on someone in public, but fuck, we can’t even lock up actual rapists.
/r/MensRights19/07/24 11:53 PM
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1)If you are unwilling to address the fact that one of the best preventions for suicide and addiction is for men to seek medical help for these issues, and that there needs to be state and federal action to widen access to both psychological and medical therapies, then complaining about them is just valorization of victimhood. 2)If you are unwilling to address the fact that the best preventions of death by accidents, by heart disease, and by cancer are alterations of risk-taking behavior (extrem…
/r/MensRights19/07/24 06:45 PM
1

And you apparently think that’s peachy-keen.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 05:40 PM
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Not all men sexually assault women in public, but there sure are a fuckton of men who are more interested in defending men who general, or criticizing women for being offended by it, than there are men who are interested in policing each other and simply stating that that behavior is uncivilized and unacceptable.
/r/MensRights19/07/24 04:18 PM
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So you don’t think psychological or emotional coercion is a thing? Or do you just not think it’s a thing for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 02:28 AM
1

That is not the same as only a few men having the capacity to attract women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 02:26 AM
1

You can’t ’find the essence’ of a term by redefining it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 02:15 AM
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Again, you’re trying to redefine a word in order to score a point, and also, saying that sex for money is ‘not a service’ is kind of laughable. Hell, we even use the word ‘servicing’ to describe breeding livestock. But English is apparently not your first language, so you can be forgiven for the confusion. Maybe the terms have slightly different definitions in German.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 05:13 PM
1

I’m not the one trying to re-define words in order to score a cheap point. Words have meanings, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 11:42 PM
1

Plumbers and bankers are also paid for their time. That just makes you look dumb, and like you’re not arguing in good faith. And you’re also still not actually reading the entirety of what I already said.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 08:29 PM
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Do you think they groomed/emotionally manipulated those women? Do you think they paid them the prevailing wage? Do you think they had legal employment contracts? Do you think that sex with the rates was part of the contract?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 06:23 PM
1

Your reading comprehension is not good.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 06:20 PM
1

Gay men playing by their own rules does not preclude the point that it is 100% possible for men - ANY men -to make themselves decent looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 06:18 PM
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