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Well, you start by asking out attractive women. Nowhere in your post did you mention going out to meet women. Guys that sleep with a lot of women meet a lot of women. Now, where you meet them is up to you. Online. Bars. Coffee shops. Target. Etc. I'm sure there's some girls that you find attractive at the gym - why not start there? But this idea that girls just flock to guys isn't true for most men, even the ones that do well. It's work. It's effort. It's reps. Even when it gets easier with expe…
/r/seduction07/09/25 10:11 PM
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Oftentimes, the way to find the balance is by being unbalanced on both sides of the spectrum. You know the nice guy side. Now it's time to assert yourself more and more until you find the line between being confident and being a dick.
/r/seduction21/09/24 04:08 PM
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Apparently, a joke
/r/seduction26/06/24 01:21 PM
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Dial back the bf vibes, dial up the sexy vibes. Instead of displaying the typical qualities that a "husband" might have - nice, compliant, good education/job, etc - shift the focus onto her and lead the interaciton towards the bedroom. Be mysterious. Be challenging. Invite her home. It's unlikely that a woman will view you as bf/husband material if you have a cheap date - coffee, drinks, etc - where you talk about her: her hobbies, hopes and dreams, sexual prefrences, etc, and then shortly after…
/r/seduction07/06/24 01:33 AM
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I've done both and I can say that they're both enjoyable, just in different ways. When you're single and just fucking around, you have a tremendous amount of freedom and variety. This is great, but you inevitably find a woman that you like more than just sex. Then... You transition into a relationship. Less freedom, less variety - unless you do polygamous or open relationships, which are also fun, but they're not for everyone - but a deeper connection with a girl you like or love. My "advice" is…
/r/seduction07/06/24 01:04 AM
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You've just acclimated to dating and the process required to lead a woman from meeting her to sleeping with her. Dating is no longer this big question mark for you, it's more or less predictable, so it's less exciting. Meet a woman, go on a date(s), sleep with her, and then decide where to go from there. It's normal. The good thing about sex is that it's a biological need, which means the desire increases with abstinence. The longer you go without it, the more you want it. You can use this to yo…
/r/seduction13/05/24 01:51 AM
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Not really, but a way to stop obsessing about women is to develop the skills to bring them into your life consistently. At that point, you still enjoy them, but you're not obsessed with them in the way you are when you don't have dating options.
/r/seduction26/10/20 11:31 PM
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and it's all thanks to women being difficult. It's actually all thanks to you giving up. Instead of offing yourself, why don't you make a commitment to yourself: ask out a girl a day. If you don't have matches online, go out IRL and do this. All the things you're doing is fine and dandy, but getting dates/girfriends/sex all boils down to asking women out.
/r/seduction26/10/20 11:29 PM
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If you want to wait until after your work trip, that's fine. I just tend to ask girls out sooner rather than later because I know the longer I wait, the less likely it'll happen.
/r/seduction18/10/20 08:50 PM
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Hey im going to X for work but was hoping to hang when im back. I would hang before you leave for work. You could say basically the same thing, with a slight modification: "Hey I'm going to X for work and was hoping to see you before I leave. Let's hangout (insert day)."
/r/seduction16/10/20 10:42 PM
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Normally I try to meet up ASAP That's good, keep doing that. so what was I supposed to do? Here's what I did when COVID hit: I just asked girls over to hang at my place. Plenty of them said no, but several said yes. since we only met like twice Wait, you met her? What happened during those times? would it make sense to throw out one final text to see? That's a perfectly acceptable thing to do. but in today's covid world dating is impossible Untrue. My dating life hasn't changed much since COVID …
/r/seduction16/10/20 08:26 PM
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I don't see how "That sounds great but I'm busy till X" is a "Maybe" though. I actually consider that a no. Anything other than "yes + a date scheduled" I consider a no. what kind of friend doesn't hang out with someone? The kind of friend that has better things to do. Meaning, she likely doesn't consider you that high on the friend scale. it just seems really rude esp. "liking attention" and therefore hurting a guy's feelings etc just for selfish emotional reasons. But she probably doesn't view…
/r/seduction16/10/20 08:16 PM
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I mean we had made legitimate agreed about plans (in person and on text) to hang out Plans change. Don't assume she'll follow through with the hangout until she's literally hanging out with you. This applies more so to new women than women you've been seeing for awhile. what's the theory behind why girls say they're free later instead of just saying "I'm busy w work and just not available to hang out" or "not interested"? One theory: negative consequences in the past from rejecting men (i.e. som…
/r/seduction16/10/20 08:01 PM
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been texting a girl on and off for a month or two In the future, I'd ask her to hangout sooner than you did. It sounds like it took you ~ 1 month to ask her out. It should only take you a few messages. that sounds fun/great and id be down but unfortunately I won't be free till mid October If this were actually true (I obviously don't have the specifics), then this girl is a "poor lead." Meaning, the further out the two of you plan a hangout, the less likely it'll happen. You should have been ask…
/r/seduction16/10/20 07:30 PM
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That's interesting that you're giving advice on a topic you have literally no experience with.
/r/seduction16/10/20 07:08 PM
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So having sex is childish? That's so odd considering sex has been an important part in all of my relationships. But if sex isn't your thing, you do you.
/r/seduction15/10/20 12:39 PM
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I'm not one of them. I enjoy sex too much.
/r/seduction14/10/20 08:28 PM
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Mate, I don't need that. Also, you missed the part in OP's post that talked about hooking up. Younger women are great for that.
/r/seduction14/10/20 08:17 PM
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Younger women are a lot of fun, they tend to have sex quicker, and their bodies are usually in better shape.
/r/seduction14/10/20 08:14 PM
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Nonsense.
/r/seduction14/10/20 08:07 PM
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I've got a career, multiple hobbies (including salsa), a car, and I'm decent-looking. If all of this is true, then the issue is probably with your personality or process (aka how you meet women). Any insights on either of these would be helpful to give you more tailored advice. I have done the typical dating apps to no avail. Do you get matches? If so, what typically happens? Also, do you live in a big enough city where OLD makes sense? I understand that it's a numbers game and can be luck of th…
/r/seduction22/09/20 08:06 PM
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I'd just start over with a different girl. It's easier to start off as high value than climb from low value to high. Note: IMO, you asking this question signifies that she's still higher value than you. If you were higher value, you'd have no problem letting her go.
/r/seduction20/09/20 07:33 PM
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I'd say with facial hair, but it's a 100% biased answer because I have facial hair (and therefore attract women who are into it). If you can't grow it well, stay away. Otherwise, test it and see how the women you're attracted to respond.
/r/seduction14/09/20 12:09 AM
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Like any information, some of it helps, some of it not so much. All you can do is test it and see if it works for you. With that being said, I've always thought the term "PUA" was cringey. I also think some of the shit they do (from what I've seen) is extraordinarily socially uncalibrated. Instead, I focused on confidence, outcome independence, being sexual (in an appropriate way), having a sense of humor, improving my social skills, etc. to attract more women into my life.
/r/seduction31/08/20 11:21 PM
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Then perhaps you should focus on those things before focusing on pussy.
/r/seduction31/08/20 12:33 AM
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I really need it. Then you'll figure out how to pay for it.
/r/seduction31/08/20 12:28 AM
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It's not likely very many people will care anyways -- just the people close to you.
/r/seduction29/08/20 03:07 AM
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Yeah, that's a long time between each. It's going to take you ages to learn if that's your average. I personally use dating apps and can help you there if that's the route you want to go. Otherwise, it's just a matter of asking out more women.
/r/seduction24/08/20 07:49 PM
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Like should I just keep pursuing this girl who is not expressing strong interest? Not all girls express interest overtly. I'd continue to pursue until she definitively stops you. Or am I going to get locked into a relationship with a girl where it’s not a good idea? Lol you can get out of a relationship whenever you want. You're not locked into anything. If this frightens you, just hang out with girls casually until you're ready for something more. I feel like I was raised in a way that made me …
/r/seduction24/08/20 04:56 AM
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I'm concerned I might not be making a good decision This is fear of making a bad decision. I wouldn't be good for her And this is fear of a woman you really like leaving you. In my dating life, I've done both, so I can tell you what to expect: If you make a bad decision, end things. There's no one forcing you to stay in a shitty relationship. Learn for the next girl. If you really like a woman and she leaves you, yes, it will hurt. It'll feel like someone is clenching your heart and trying to pu…
/r/seduction24/08/20 04:40 AM
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Explain.
/r/seduction29/06/20 09:36 PM
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Any tips on developing sass or outcome independence? Outcome independence comes with experience. It's when you know you have the skills to bring women into your life, so you're not overly worried about any one interaction working. It's kind of like seeing dating on the macro level vs the micro level. As for sass, that's like teasing or warm sarcasm. If the words are taken literally, they could be rude. But because of my delivery (warmth, a small smile, etc), it's taken as fun banter. developed a…
/r/seduction28/06/20 03:20 PM
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Since I've focused so hard on OLD, I can't say one way or another on asking girls out IRL. The few times I have, I just talked to the girl about something situational, and then pitched the date after. This line would work for online as well I'm assuming. I'd put that you're new to the city in your bio and use a different opener. I tend to talk about things in her pictures or bio, but I've also used a more standard opener (aka an opener I use on all girls). Just test which one gets you better res…
/r/seduction24/06/20 09:41 PM
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So it sounds like my biggest issue is simply not meeting enough women to create that level of consistent results. It's a common issue, but one that's simple to remedy: meet more girls. It might not be easy at first to get them into your life in a dating context, but the odds are better when you're working with more girls. What do you like to message them? I typically message them about something from their pictures or bios. Lately, I've been asking girls how they've been keeping busy during quar…
/r/seduction24/06/20 11:55 AM
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I know this is a really vague question, but what worked for you that you ended up keeping? Thinking in numbers, especially with OLD. Move things towards sex quickly. There's no point in going on date after date because the girls that are interested will sleep with you within dates 1-3. I've personally never slept with a girl I was pursuing on date 4 or beyond, so I no longer continue to see girls if it doesn't happen by then (because in my experience, it's not going to). There must be sexual pro…
/r/seduction22/06/20 08:56 PM
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How did you turn things around for yourself? I read a lot and eventually worked up the nerve to test out what I read. I kept what worked, and discarded the rest. It was an uphill battle for me because I started off very shy, but my sex drive gave me plenty of motivation. I stuck at it long enough and eventually figured out what worked for me. I always thought online dating got a bad rap because it's notorious for shallow connections built around meaningless sex. That certainly happens, but if yo…
/r/seduction22/06/20 01:36 AM
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You're welcome, I wish you the best. Feel free to reach out with any more questions in the future and I'll do my best to help.
/r/seduction19/06/20 11:39 PM
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This always felt natural to me but I didn't know whether or not it was practical or attainable. It is attainable, provided you're willing to optimize your looks (if you haven't already done so) and put in some work to up your dating skills. I personally prefer having a SO (whom I care for on an emotional level) while still having the ability to have sex on the side aka an open relationship. And like you, I'm not really interested in partying/socializing with them, I'd rather just spend quality t…
/r/seduction19/06/20 11:38 PM
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I still got rejected when I cold approached them Everyone gets rejected. Overall, I was going to reply to more of your comment, but it's clear to me that you're only interested in excuses. Best of luck.
/r/seduction19/06/20 11:14 PM
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I would love to hear any advice you can give me to start taking steps towards creating this kind of sex life for myself. What kind of sex life do you want specifically? The more detailed you are, the easier it is to know when you hit it (or not). Think of it as defining a goal. What's your current experience with women? Are you starting from the beginning, as in a virgin? Or do you have some experience but lack the ability to consistently get girls? And what's your experience with OLD?
/r/seduction19/06/20 12:20 PM
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You can’t define what relationship you want when you’ve never had one False. And can decide if you want a monogamous gf, if you just want casual relationships, if you want open relationships, etc. none of the shit here matters if you’re not good looking so if you’re not at least a 7/10 or higher Also false. You can optimize your looks to make yourself more attractive, you can lower your standards, you can pay for it, etc. Yes, attractiveness plays a factor, but how many guys do you know who have…
/r/seduction19/06/20 12:16 PM
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always look for the safe route Being bold with women comes with experience. You do it once, realize the world's not going to end (and maybe even see some results) and repeat. I care too much about what people think Decide what you want and put your head down and get to work. I don't really talk to people about my dating life IRL because it's abnormal compared to typical dating. But compare my levels of happiness and lack of problems in my dating life to the same men that would harshly judge me, …
/r/seduction18/06/20 02:24 AM
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I'm going to start by saying you're 21. You still have a lot of time to date. I understand that you want results now, but results follow consistent action. i have fucked up multiple opportunities with gorgeous women. You're going to fuck up a lot more too. I have more experience with women than most guys my age, and I still get rejected all the time when I'm dating. It's a part of the game. I wanted to ask you what are some concise steps i can take to start developing my social skills and buildi…
/r/seduction18/06/20 12:33 AM
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I don't go on dates for the company, but to each their own.
/r/seduction17/06/20 01:54 AM
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Don't count your chickens before they hatch. Move things forward and enjoy yourself.
/r/seduction17/06/20 01:44 AM
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I'm sorry to hear that about your parents, but there's more to life than responsibility. You can help out with your parents and date at the same time.
/r/seduction14/06/20 11:57 AM
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It feels like dating or enjoying myself is something forbidden which I shouldn't be doing. Why do you think this?
/r/seduction13/06/20 11:29 PM
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Lol I think you're overthinking it. But if it's that big of a deal to you, just end things. I personally wouldn't, but to each their own. but for some reason I felt like sometimes people were looking at us Fuck em' 😂
/r/seduction13/06/20 09:23 PM
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Nice guy: being nice to people in hopes that they will like you for your niceness. Good guy: being nice to people because it's a standard in your life. Why does society make it look like a crime to be a good guy Nice guys typically aren't very exciting because they don't really have any opinions themselves, they just say what they think the other person wants to hear. It's a very weak way of going about life, and women don't find weakness attractive. Just don't make the mistake in believing that…
/r/seduction11/06/20 09:37 AM
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A. I don't generally think it's a good idea to date women you work with unless your job isn't a career. B. Ask her out. You'll find out soon enough.
/r/seduction11/06/20 12:07 AM
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saying or doing the right thing You'll find that there's no such thing. The remedy for this is more experience. Once you've interacted with x amount of women, you'll think less of "the right thing to say" and just say what comes to you.
/r/seduction10/06/20 12:00 PM
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Ex: you meet a girl at the mall and she’s hot and you wanna start a casual relationships Grab her number and setup the date. If all goes well on the date, invite her over for date 2 and try to have sex. Keep inviting her over for sex. Implement those tips above as needed. Starting a casual relationship is the same as other types of relationships. You meet a girl, chat with her, and have sex when you're both feeling it. The difference is you don't involve feelings and keep it about just sex.
/r/seduction09/06/20 11:40 AM
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Yeah, I'll do my best to help.
/r/seduction09/06/20 03:09 AM
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Is this serious relationship exclusive? If so, you'd need to talk to your SO about opening up the relationship.
/r/seduction09/06/20 03:02 AM
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I'll give you a few tips for a casual relationship since I've gotten away from hookups: Give her a solid sexual experience so she wants to continue seeing you casually. The more orgasms the better. Be discreet. Treat her well, like you would a friend. Don't be upset if she pursues something more emotional with another guy. She may leave you for him, but if you're mature and wish her well, she just might come back to you when they break up. No dates or spending the night. That's reserved for a gi…
/r/seduction09/06/20 03:00 AM
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You start with deciding what you want in your dating life. Are you looking for a hookup? Casual relationship? Something serious?
/r/seduction09/06/20 02:05 AM
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Depends on what you consider to be quick. I took the route of optimizing my looks and increasing my social skills so I can sleep with women between dates 1-3. But that took years of work to get to this point. You can always get lucky, but if you want this ability, then you're going to have to put in some work. Or pay for it.
/r/seduction08/06/20 02:19 PM
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But I feel like if I meet a girl who’s physically and emotionally appealing it would feel so unnatural to just keep it platonic Don't try to keep it platonic with these girls. Shoot your shot and move on. I don't think it's a smart idea being platonic friends with girls you like like that. And how would you even go about getting a platonic female friend without one of you expecting more from it ? My current platonic female friends are girls that I used to sleep with but we've since moved on, tak…
/r/seduction07/06/20 03:33 AM
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"No worries. Have fun this summer 🙂" What do you guys do when rejected - in various circumstances? I do basically the same thing in all situations. Tell her "no worries" and wish her well. Should I just let myself feel as I naturally feel? You're going to feel the way you feel. What's important is your actions. As long as you don't treat her poorly after she rejects you, you're good. Note: the more you experience rejection, the less it will affect you. Nowadays, it barely registers as an emotion…
/r/seduction07/06/20 03:06 AM
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I own the book and have some experience in dating. how relevant are letters in today's world when attempting to seduce? Not very relevant in typical dating. Maybe on special occasions though (ex: Valentine's Day). which in my opinion kinda waters down the mystique of seduction to some degree How do you mean? If you're talking about daily texts, I agree. I don't text often, and I don't really use it as a means of seduction. Instead, I use it as a quick way to setup logistics and then I let me per…
/r/seduction02/06/20 07:09 PM
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Ask her out first. If she doesn't agree, then move on.
/r/seduction31/05/20 02:23 PM
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She's been texting me for more than 3 months or so. Probably because you've been texting her for so long without ever trying to make something happen. Girls will only show "interest" for so long before moving onto a guy who will pull the trigger.
/r/seduction31/05/20 02:17 PM
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You treat fwbs well. The first word is friend. I understand that in a fwb relationship, you just hit up the other person whenever and fuck, but how does that work exactly? You take out your calendar and plan it. Ask her when she's free and then pick a date that works for the both of you. when you text the other person to come over, do you get busy as soon as they walk in? I personally chat for a bit, have sex, chat for a bit longer, and then end it. Total time: less than 2 hours.
/r/seduction31/05/20 01:09 PM
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Well said. 10s dont exist, only individually so youre talking about 9s. Which I also doubt cause 9s are super rare. I agree with you here. 10 to me means perfect, which is impossible. Even the most attractive girls have things they could change to make themselves more attractive. I've always had a hard time deciding what "number" a girl is. I can tell you instantly if a woman is attractive enough for me to pursue, but that's totally subjective.
/r/seduction28/05/20 05:44 PM
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I'd have a better response to this if I knew what you were getting at.
/r/seduction26/05/20 06:14 PM
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Do I need Cool profile to make them think I'm interesting? Since they can only judge you based off of your profile, yes, you should make it as cool as possible.
/r/seduction26/05/20 06:04 PM
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I don't want to miss out so I've been planning to try it out ( lol) . I think you should try it out. It's going to be low odds of success like all mediums of OLD, but if you put the necessary time and effort in, it'll work. I haven't really focused on this form of OLD (I focus on tinder, bumble, and hinge), but I have made it work on FB once. Note: I've heard predictions that social media will become the new form of OLD in the next 5-10 years, so you may as well get good at it now in case that h…
/r/seduction26/05/20 06:03 PM
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From the front: her face. From behind: her ass.
/r/seduction26/05/20 03:47 AM
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I assumed you were asking to get other guys' perspectives on whether or not you should go for it. If not, what's the point of your post?
/r/seduction26/05/20 03:15 AM
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Within range, proceed.
/r/seduction26/05/20 03:06 AM
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Whenever you hear "never" or "always" with dating advice, ignore it. Extremes on both sides generally don't work, especially long term. Instead, look for advice that reads like "do x to increase your chances with y." So with compliments, I would hold off initially (aka before you have sex), but then use them sparingly when you're dating. It's probably okay to increase this amount a little more as you become serious, but as you stated, don't slather a women in compliments. The less you give them,…
/r/seduction21/05/20 09:21 PM
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At the grocery store? Obviously your eggplant 😉
/r/seduction10/05/20 02:14 PM
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But then OP wastes his own time 🤔
/r/seduction10/05/20 01:58 PM
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Picking up girls is overrated You learn how to do it so you can choose how women fit into your life. For some guys, that's a bunch of hookups. For others, it's a dependable gf. Either way, you need to be able to bring girls into your life consistently and effectively to make it happen. Why go to the farm and go get milk from different cows whenever you want milk when you can just take a cow home and get infinite milk from your backyard? Because sometimes you want chocolate milk. Or strawberry. W…
/r/seduction04/04/20 10:23 AM
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I'm not privy to what happened, but I find it amusing that they have a "donate" button yet you can't access certain content.
/r/seduction29/03/20 08:17 AM
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Why would you not care / feel compelled to interject if she was ragging on them if you like them? Because that's her opinion, not mine. Her dislike towards them doesn't change how I feel. yeah, no she definitely isn’t into the same shit as me and I won’t like being near her”? There's so many topics of conversation that it's almost impossible not to find something to bond over. But admittedly, it has happened. It's just rare. but I felt like I was being a little attacked for being male. I get tha…
/r/seduction28/03/20 11:49 PM
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Probably. I like both of those guys because I think they produce great content. I would have probably said something like "to each their own" and then moved onto setting up a date/hangout. Lol there's plenty of girls that like to suck dick. You'll find many more. Any advice on how to discern the line? The gauge I use is if it affects my life/happiness. This girl having her opinions on Joe and Jordan don't affect my life/happiness, so I wouldn't care. If she actually listened to those guys, she'd…
/r/seduction28/03/20 08:06 PM
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What should I be talking about with these women? It's not so much the topic, but how you have these conversations. A debate isn't fun unless she's that type or has known you for awhile. But things you can talk about: friends, work, hobbies, goals, travels, past relationships, sex, etc. This also raises the question, how do I actually be fun? I personally use sass. Some guys use humor, or great storytelling, or charisma. There's loads of ways, but it's the vibe you have with her. Warm, non-judgme…
/r/seduction28/03/20 03:51 PM
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What do you think? They're your legs. If you want them bigger, hit the gym. If you're fine with them, keep doing what you're doing.
/r/seduction28/03/20 03:25 PM
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Tinder isn't the place to have intense intellectual conversations with women. Save those for when you're in a deep relationship with a woman, or just have those with your buddies. But I’m only looking for casual dating. For casual dating, women are looking for a man that's fun and fucks her well. If you're a kill joy that wants to debate her rather than enjoy time with her, then what's the point for her? Same goes for if you don't give her a good sexual experience. Overall, dial down the intelle…
/r/seduction28/03/20 03:23 PM
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Focus on one thing and hammer it with reps until it becomes natural. Then, move onto something else. Rinse and repeat. Ex: Eye contact I had a tough time keeping eye contact when I was younger. So, I decided to hold eye contact with every person I walked past until they looked away or until we passed each other. It was uncomfortable at first, but now eye contact is "natural" to me. In fact, I have to remind myself to look away because I can hold it for unnerving amounts of time.
/r/seduction25/03/20 05:04 PM
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I try not to be. Why do they want you to fall in love with them if they don't feel the same? That doesn't make sense to me.
/r/seduction24/03/20 08:07 PM
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Sex first, love second. I'm primarily in it for the sex. I don't care if a woman has feels/loves me unless I feel the same way, and then I care. Are any of you guys serial heartbreakers? Sure, but not because I didn't care or love her. It's because we wanted two different types of relationships. I wanted a sexually open relationship (I'm cool with emotional monogamy) whereas she wanted a typical monogamous relationship. When we realized that neither of us were willing to compromise on the relati…
/r/seduction24/03/20 07:56 PM
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I have no time for that, and I don't think you should either. However, if someone feels like you're "better than them" perhaps it's because you're making them feel as such.
/r/seduction18/03/20 01:02 AM
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Groom. Shower immediately before hanging out with a girl. Lose excess fat. Etc.
/r/seduction18/03/20 12:39 AM
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Well, no one's going to be perfect, but you certainly don't have to put up with someone's shit to be in a relationship. What specifically do you keep finding?
/r/seduction18/03/20 12:23 AM
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Agreed, but my libido gives zero fucks about coronavirus. He's a demanding little shit, so I've learned to work around this bug. Maybe you can do the same.
/r/seduction18/03/20 12:21 AM
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All you can do is learn from the toxic relationship and then make a pact with yourself that you'll cut off any potential relationships if they start exhibiting similar behaviors.
/r/seduction18/03/20 12:16 AM
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Don't talk so long. Send a few messages back and forth and then pitch the meet. Since it's coronavirus season, just invite girls over or go to their place. If they're not game, next.
/r/seduction17/03/20 11:06 PM
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Lol someone's not getting laid XD.
/r/seduction17/03/20 11:00 PM
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who said back in the day when people lived in villages and tribes Suggestion: the JRE podcast with Sebastian Junger. Specifically, the first one he did when they discussed his book called "Tribe." But is that true, or is it just a myth? If it were true, we'd all be with our first love. There will likely be many "loves of your life," so enjoy them while they last, but don't expect them to last until you die. If they do, that's a bonus. Maybe it's about trying to have a few close guy friends Very …
/r/seduction17/03/20 10:14 PM
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I disagree. It's about 100x easier as an adult to get laid than as a teen. I have my own place, I'm fiscally responsible, and I'm no longer afraid of women. How much TV do you watch? And how much are you on Reddit? This is time that you could utilize to hit on women vs interacting with a screen.
/r/seduction17/03/20 09:47 PM
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My understanding of his comment is that because they haven't suffered heart break/toxic relationships yet, they're less afraid to try and make something happen. I agree with Raghnallyaholo (what a name XD) in that if you don't try then you won't make shit happen. A lot of guys wonder why they're not getting laid/having relationships and when you ask them what they're doing to make it happen, they respond "uh, nothing." You can't make anything happen with a woman if you don't try.
/r/seduction17/03/20 09:36 PM
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Your pictures must be bad and frankly those openers are lame. At least engage her a little bit with something specific to her bio/pictures. But my guess is it's your pictures. Note: with OLD, you must accept A LOT of rejection. 60 women isn't a lot IMO, but it is indicative that something's probably off. Change your pictures and try again.
/r/seduction17/03/20 06:26 PM
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Fuckbuddies = FWB. Invite her over for sex. That's what the B in FWB stands for. I thought about just going to the local mall because we could be walking around and actively having new stuff to talk about. This sounds too relationship-y. If you want casual, meet a girl on a 1st date to see if you like her. If you do, invite her over for date 2 and go for sex. Continue to invite her over for just sex thereafter.
/r/seduction17/03/20 12:25 PM
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Lol you don't have to be covert about wanting to have sex with a woman. Women like to be desired tactfully. Yeah, asking to do a movie after coffee is fine. She'll know what you're getting at and her answer will reflect this.
/r/seduction12/03/20 02:58 AM
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Start with talking about relationships and transition into talking about sex. I actually still live at home. It's gonna make it tougher, but not impossible. If you still want to try for the first date, just ask if she wants to go drive around. Have a spot in mind and go there. Park, chat, and make a move. If you wait until the second date, just say something like "Let's do a movie at your place." If her place is a no-go, counter with the drive. Same thing as above.
/r/seduction12/03/20 02:50 AM
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She agreed to a date, so there's at least some interest already. How do I test the waters sexually when talking to her without coming across forward and/or creepy? touch her talk about sex Furthermore, is it possible to get it on the first date Sure. Just invite her over after the date. Plan your logistics beforehand. or should I think in terms of several dates before thinking sexual? If you don't ask on date one, ask her over for date two. I aim to have sex between dates 1-2, but will wait to d…
/r/seduction12/03/20 02:37 AM
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is this normal? Lol no. Does it have sense anymore to try seduction tactics or stuff like this when girls today just do all the work? This situation you described is an outlier. Most girls won't make the first move, and even more won't be this overt about it.
/r/seduction01/03/20 08:02 PM
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An off-putting name for a friend with benefits.
/r/seduction01/03/20 07:41 PM
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I think it's largely a big woman thing. They probably know that in order to get laid/attention, they're going to have to put in some work. Pretty girls, on the other hand, get hit on plenty so they don't usually need to go out if their way to do it.
/r/seduction29/02/20 09:40 PM
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Yesterday morning she texts me that she needs to cancel our date because she forgot she had other things going on Happens all the time when you first start dating a woman. You have to remember that until you become a more integral part of her life, you mean very little to her. So if plans with her friends comes up, you're out. Don't take it personally. Looking back on it my take away is I really need to know what a person is looking for explicitly on the first date. The problem with this is that…
/r/seduction29/02/20 09:04 PM
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Exactly. If you increase your numbers in the same amount of time, you'll reach the result you're looking for faster.
/r/seduction27/02/20 04:05 PM
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It means put in the numbers. You have a low percentage chance of dating any one woman. So to offset shitty odds, you work with volume. Ex: Who has the better chance of getting laid/relationship: the guy who asks out 1 girl, or 100?
/r/seduction27/02/20 12:34 PM
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want advice to get a specific girl. So true. And then when the advice doesn't pan out that one time, they think it doesn't work. Dating advice doesn't give you the ability to get any girl you want. It increases the odds that you will. Big difference. she might come back to you, she also might no Funny that you say this because I'm currently seeing a woman whom I matched with 2 or 3 times with on the dating apps before she agreed to a date (and I asked her out each time). The first few times arou…
/r/seduction27/02/20 12:31 PM
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Lol agreed, way too much nerdy shit being discussed. It's too much detail for anyone. An experienced guy just asks a girl to coffee, chats for an hour or two, and then invites her to his place that day or for date 2. If you were to watch it live, it's truly nothing special. A little chatting, a little flirting, a little touching, and gone to have sex. needs more of these tips You want some tips? Make a move. Work in volume. Move things forward. Drop girls that waste time. Enjoy yourself.
/r/seduction27/02/20 03:24 AM
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Did you tell him "Bruh, you winked 5 times? An ALPHA doesn't even need to wink. The girl just knows. She can feel it. You a BETA BETCH!!"
/r/seduction27/02/20 03:04 AM
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Sometimes I wonder am I less of an alpha male if I don’t bed tons of women? What's more important? Your current relationship, or bedding scores of women? I just feel like I need to prove something to the world that I can have plenty of sex It sounds like you need to prove it to yourself. The world doesn't care how many women you sleep with. My guess is this is my ego speaking to tell me to measure up, I don’t want it to ruin my relationship though. Probably. Here's the thing: there's no right an…
/r/seduction25/02/20 08:33 PM
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You would think. But it's because they hookup with other guys, just not them.
/r/seduction22/02/20 08:33 AM
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So sad, but so true 😂
/r/seduction22/02/20 06:56 AM
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Trying and committing are two different things. Trying is doing something a handful of times and then deeming it too hard and quitting. Committing is doing something as many times as it takes until you figure it out. You must commit if you want to see results in this area of your life. I tried online dating but did not receive any matches, no responses, and didn't get any dates. How were your pictures? They have to be solid if you hope to make OLD work. This is the area I focused on (primarily t…
/r/seduction22/02/20 03:36 AM
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I would have proposed a date and time the first time around. But if I don't hear back from her within a day or so, yeah, I'll make other plans. I've had a few girls crack the shits when I mention I'd already made other plans. If they can't respond within a day, that's on her. The girl from your example didn't bother for three days, so I would have absolutely made other plans. What are your thoughts? Something else you can do is stack your first dates. Meaning, schedule two for the same night a f…
/r/seduction22/02/20 03:06 AM
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but our brains dont care Our brains can also learn, so this isn't a valid excuse.
/r/seduction22/02/20 02:54 AM
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Okay so you're starting from the beginning. What approach sounds most appealing to you: online dating, meeting girls at bars/clubs, meeting girls in everyday settings (coffee shops, mall, gym, etc.), or meeting women via social circle?
/r/seduction22/02/20 02:51 AM
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What do you need help with specifically?
/r/seduction22/02/20 02:22 AM
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but we as men fuck it up for them. Agreed. It's amusing how many men don't ask out pretty girls because "there's no way she'll go out with me." Maybe, maybe not. Take things as far as you can and let her be the one to stop you. Don't stop yourself dumb dumb. We do this by judging girls and calling them sluts if they sleep around This one gets me too. So many guys try to sleep with pretty girls, and then when they don't, they'll get pissed and call em hoes or sluts or whatever. If you want girls …
/r/seduction21/02/20 09:38 PM
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I can't comment on day game because I don't really do it, but all you need is one woman online as well.
/r/seduction20/02/20 02:35 PM
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I use primarily dating apps as well. You have a point, but as long as you're only swiping to girls you find attractive, then it shouldn't be an issue. Stung, hence the slightly bitter post. Yeah, it'll always sting, especially if you found her especially attractive. But as you do it more often, it'll sting for shorter amounts of time. Just remember that you will still get rejected by average looking chicks, so you may as well shoot higher so when something sticks (and it will if you keep at it),…
/r/seduction19/02/20 10:44 PM
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Don't. I’ve maxed out my game, bank account, and physical fitness over the last year Doubtful if and I’m still landing the same middling attractive chubby girls I always did this keeps happening. Since you (seemingly) have developed some "game," I would create a mininum standard of the type of woman you'll be with (even if it's something extremely casual, like a one night stand). Then don't go after girls below that. You'll likely flounder at first, but then hit your stride with the more attract…
/r/seduction19/02/20 08:10 PM
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Wheter a girl gives her number to you or not is a shitty metric for success. This. Numbers mean nothing. The only things I'm concerned about in dating are getting laid and forming relationships. Everything else (matches, numbers, kisses, etc) is mental masturbation.
/r/seduction18/02/20 08:09 PM
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There sure is: ask a girl out.
/r/seduction16/02/20 03:35 PM
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I had a date recently that I completely screwed up, because I made it completely platonic and didn't escalate at all. It happens, but did you invite her over for a follow up date at your place? Just because you thought you screwed everything up doesn't necessarily mean she does. if you could give me some specific advice with regards to how to escalate so as to create the opportunity of sex to happen. Touch her. Start in more platonic places (hands, wrist, etc) and move to more sexual places (thi…
/r/seduction16/02/20 02:47 PM
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Like I said, most girls seem to have a good time on actual dates but then their interest fades the more we text. Text less often. In the early stages of dating, I text infrequently, usually just to setup/confirm dates.
/r/seduction10/02/20 09:34 PM
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Do you tell them? No. I rarely get this question, but some girls speculate. I usually say "oh, so that's what you think of me" and then change the topic. If she persists, I tell her frankly that I'm not going to answer the question. If she still pushes things, then I give her the "if my number is going to be an issue, then this isn't going to work." Girls usually don't bring it up again 😂 I usually say something silly like oh well I'm still a virgin ( usually after sleeping with them) and I tell…
/r/seduction05/02/20 07:50 PM
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she said we can just chat at the gym. This suggests to me she's not interested in anything outside of friendly conversations at the gym. And either way, how do I proceed? I personally don't think she's interested, but if you want to see this through to the end to avoid "what if" then just ask her out.
/r/seduction04/02/20 01:40 AM
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and I agree working for myself is the best choice but it’s easier said then done unfortunately 100%. I taught myself how to get laid consistently and I have a suspicion working for myself will be even harder to learn 😂 That's my objective now though.
/r/seduction04/02/20 01:07 AM
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Agreed. But to weigh in on being a bartender, it can certainly be a way to meet women, but you're usually working during the times you'd typically date aka evenings and weekends.
/r/seduction03/02/20 11:54 PM
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A job that gives you evenings/nights off but doesn't require you to be in early. Girls have shit going on during the day, so that's the time I would work so you can plan dates after that. The BULK of my dates are after 5pm, usually at 7 or later. But to be honest, you can get laid plenty working a typical full time job if it's important to you (plus you'll have the funds to actually date instead of barely scraping by in your minimum wage job). All you really need to live a "slayer lifestyle" is …
/r/seduction03/02/20 11:51 PM
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What are your alternatives? A lifetime of chronic masturbation? My recommendation is to optimize your looks, personality, and system and try again. I guarantee you can improve in all of those areas (everyone can). Start with your most obvious flaw and get to work.
/r/seduction30/01/20 01:23 AM
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Exactly. My guess is if you two keep seeing each other, you'll start to get more texts from her. If not, but she continues to see you, fuck it, who cares 😂
/r/seduction28/01/20 06:36 PM
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I mean if it's just a "I'm busy" it's a no to me. But if it's "Tuesday doesn't work for me, how about Friday, same time?" is still a yes :) Exactly. The only time my co-worker reached out to me first in the past 2 weeks was 5 minutes after our first date Some girls are like this (not a lot of texting). Personally, I enjoy these types because I don't tend to text much outside of setting up dates.
/r/seduction28/01/20 04:23 AM
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anything else I'll take as a no and leave it be. Obviously work with her schedule to find a day that works for both of you, but otherwise, yeah, that's generally how I take it. Most girls do reach out to me first, at least some of the time. Do you mean after a date? That's a good sign, and what I like to do is schedule another date quickly after and move things forward to the physical realm.
/r/seduction28/01/20 03:48 AM
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There you go. Just keep plowing through dates and I'm sure you'll find what you're looking for. So far my co-worker has not given me any signs that she's not interested at all Typically, I like "to close things out." Meaning, I keep moving things forward until she stops me. In this manner, I don't worry about appearing needy/chasing because I know when she stops things, it's time for me to move on. So in your situation, I would absolutely keep pursuing her because she hasn't said (or suggested) …
/r/seduction28/01/20 01:12 AM
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Agreed, especially if you're easily affected by caffeine. Tip: take L-Theanine instead. It's the amino acid in green tea that promotes relaxation.
/r/seduction28/01/20 01:01 AM
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I have hundreds of matches on Tinder and gotten dozens of numbers. Matches and numbers mean nothing. Focus on dates, sex, relationships, etc. Do I keep a dialog going or shall I just reach out again in a week when I'm back from my trip? I'd try and make plans now for when you return, and then keep a little dialogue going until you return But to answer your original question, desiring a woman is pursuing her until she says no. Chasing a woman is pursuing a woman after she's said no/made it obviou…
/r/seduction28/01/20 12:53 AM
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Asking her out, inviting her over, going in for the kiss, having sex, etc. Essentially anything that moves the interaction forward from friends to something more.
/r/seduction27/01/20 05:29 PM
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however I've never had girls giving me the "look" in public, or approaching me at parties or clubs. Girls are subtle. You probably missed "the look." As for approaching, it's exceedingly rare for a woman to do that. I know I'm supposed to do some work to seduce on my part You're gonna have to do the bulk of the work in the beginning. Things usually balance out when you've been seeing a girl for a bit. but I'm too afraid to act on it if girls don't show ultra obvious interest. I recommend acting …
/r/seduction26/01/20 07:48 PM
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But the worst is that I dont feel like a girl would be attracted to me. This attitude will reinforce itself because you won't take action, which means you won't see results, which means you'll further believe you're not attractive to women. Also, why are you rejecting yourself for women? Let them tell you if they're interested or not. Everytime I see someone say they were rejected I feel even worse. Rejection hurts the worst in the beginning because you don't have too much experience with it. Bu…
/r/seduction26/01/20 04:53 PM
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Try putting that information into practice before you read another book. I haven't read Models, but I do have experience with women, and you don't get it by reading. It's fine to consume information IF you're putting said information into practice. Otherwise, you're just procrastinating, waiting until you have "enough information". No matter how much you read, you'll still feel uncomfortable when you first apply the knowledge, whether that's today, or three years from now. I recommend getting st…
/r/seduction26/01/20 02:36 AM
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Should i wait for her to initiate? No. If you don't initiate her, some other guy on tinder will and scoop her right up. You have to play offense in the early stages of dating, especially when you're using dating apps. She has more options than you realize. As things progress, I bet she starts initiating more (unless she's just that type of girl who waits for the guys to make moves, which is a possibility). But IMO, I wouldn't worry about it considering she's very receptive in person. Just get to…
/r/seduction22/01/20 11:34 PM
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I prefer to feel sexual on dates because it gives me energy and makes me feel like a man. Shooting one off before is a weenie move.
/r/seduction20/01/20 01:37 PM
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The first time was terrible 😂 But I have since more than made up for my late start in this part of my life.
/r/seduction19/01/20 11:17 PM
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It's a serious numbers game. This is true in dating in general, but especially true with hotter women. You have a smaller margin for error because they have more options. But don't mow her down with it, use pressure and release. I love the way you said this. I see too many guys going one way or the other. There are the guys that want to play it cool, so they sit there and let the hotties come to them. The only issue is most women won't hit on you, so you're usually left with your dick in your ha…
/r/seduction19/01/20 12:31 PM
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Where do you find em? Anywhere hot girls go. Bars, clubs, coffee shops, bookstore, the mall, online, the gym, etc. Will you give some advice to a 19yr old fellow super picky seducer? Practice asking. What I mean by this is that you won't get a date with a hot girl if you don't ask her out. You won't get laid with a hot girl if you don't ask her over. You won't get a hot gf if you don't ask her to be one. Ask. It's the only way to get things rolling with hot women.
/r/seduction18/01/20 05:35 PM
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Personally, I'm super super picky, and I tend to have the occasional dry spell as a result. I'm the same way in terms of women I date more seriously. Her attractiveness, personality, sexual comparability, etc. all have to be a certain level otherwise I'm only interested in something sexual. It's an intriguing concept, that one can relax their standards to avoid such dry spells. I mean you still have standards, but a woman that you're going to have a one night stand with or a fwb situation with d…
/r/seduction18/01/20 05:30 PM
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Joe believe in magic! Joe believe in conjuring up the world!
/r/seduction18/01/20 05:14 AM
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He already has one, that's why he's got a 7+ inch D (douche). He's above average in that department, and probably quite cavernous. I bet Daddy is proud.
/r/seduction18/01/20 05:09 AM
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Gonna have to ask a bit more than just a few bucko. Hotter girls are in high demand.
/r/seduction18/01/20 03:40 AM
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"Okay, let's plan on Monday at 8" (or whatever). I try to set a day/time right then and there knowing full well the odds are slimmer due to it being so far out. But I'd rather close things out completely than leave them open like the other commenter's suggestions. But I do agree with them in that you should still be hitting on other women though.
/r/seduction18/01/20 02:05 AM
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I want to know your guys' take on this topic. What is your philosophy and why? I used to be on the "move on quickly and don't waste your time" train, and it's still largely sound advice, but I'm a bit more nuanced nowadays. My philosophy is this: know what you want and get after it until you've gotten it. So, let's say you want a gf who is your personal 9 or 10 and you have three girls that you're texting: a 7, an 8, and a 9. The 9 keeps making plans with you, but then reschedules on the day you…
/r/seduction18/01/20 01:34 AM
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Have you tried asking out hotter women?
/r/seduction18/01/20 12:52 AM
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I don't lie to women, so I have no fake stories I tell them. And like the other commenter, I don't text much aside from setting up dates. I do primarily OLD, so my dates are usually one-on-one. This means that I have her full attention, so my "social proof" is how well I can talk to her. I'm very confident in this regard.
/r/seduction17/01/20 12:56 AM
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Exactly. It's already cringey that you said "it's alright" so many times. When you get rejected, "no worries, have a nice day" + a smile is all you need to do. I don't understand the mindset of apologizing for thinking a girl is attractive enough to ask out OP.
/r/seduction12/01/20 04:57 PM
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Because I think the likelihood of a woman responding to a random DM is less than 5%. And 20 is not a large enough sample size IMO.
/r/seduction11/01/20 11:04 PM
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Try it with 20 girls so that you'll see what the actual odds are I'd bump this number up to 100. It's unlikely that a woman will respond, and even more unlikely she'll agree to a date, but it does happen.
/r/seduction11/01/20 06:20 PM
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To take her? Coffee or for drinks, depending on your age.
/r/seduction06/01/20 08:07 PM
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Something about class and then transition into asking her out.
/r/seduction06/01/20 07:58 PM
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There's more relationship structures than the binary single vs exclusive ones. Too many restrictions, guidelines, rules, checking in and all that shit. Yeah this isn't my thing either. I tend to only develop more serious relationships with more independent women because they don't need to know what you're doing at all times of the day.
/r/seduction05/01/20 01:45 AM
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It takes time to last longer in bed. You either learn to do so by having more sex, or by edging. Another suggestion would be to shoot one off before you have sex, but by the sounds of it, that wouldn't help.
/r/seduction04/01/20 02:37 AM
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A system that reliably gets me laid and/or gets me relationships. Another way of saying this: being a ladies man.
/r/seduction31/12/19 04:19 AM
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It's not a fwb until you've had sex. But treat her like a fwb. No dates, no spending the night, seeing each other just for sex, etc.
/r/seduction31/12/19 04:02 AM
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If a girl is bitchin and stressing you out or is unreceptive, dont be scared to cut them off. Yes, men need standards. If a woman isn't treating you up to those standards, move on. Let another guy deal with her shit.
/r/seduction31/12/19 04:00 AM
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Just send a few messages, talk about whatever, and then transition into pitching a date.
/r/seduction28/12/19 09:56 PM
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A few things: You sound like her sugardaddy. Treat her as such. You got feelings for a cheater. That's on you. How do you turn the tide on a girl who is a manipulator and liar like this? You don't. You accept she's just a fwb and let her do what she wants. Go get your emotional needs met elsewhere while still having bomb sex with her.
/r/seduction28/12/19 09:05 PM
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Plus, I always assume that the hot chicks I do talk to in class and such are too good for me. I kinda have low confidence too and am scared of rejection. This certainly doesn't help. My question to you: how many of those 90 matches did you message? How many did you ask out? Without knowing you, my first assumption is lack of initiative. Since you're afraid of rejection, I'm assuming you're not taking too many risks in asking women out. This is a MASSIVE mistake because you can't get dates/hookup…
/r/seduction28/12/19 08:56 PM
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The pain of doing nothing will continue to grow until it forces you to take action. That's what happened to me. But instead of trying to do a whole approach, break it up into baby steps. Work on maintaining eye contact with a pretty woman. Once that's easy, start smiling at them. Then, say hi. Then, have a conversation. Then, have a conversation and ask her out. Etc. Note: once you do make an approach despite being nervous, the euphoria you feel afterwards (despite how it went) is dope. It makes…
/r/seduction28/12/19 08:50 PM
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It looks like you're overthinking this. How are you meeting these women?
/r/seduction28/12/19 08:45 PM
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I'd ask "does your head itch?"
/r/seduction28/12/19 07:48 PM
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Or were you lying to yourself before which caused the insecurities?
/r/seduction28/12/19 03:07 AM
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Gym clothes preferably.
/r/seduction28/12/19 02:46 AM
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But this can't be the only way, can it? Nope. Some people wait until marriage to have sex. There's no right way to date. The question is what's an acceptable amount of time for you to know a girl before you would like to have sex with her? Determine this, and then make a plan on how to achieve that.
/r/seduction27/12/19 08:30 PM
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5% seems like a very small number.
/r/seduction27/12/19 12:45 AM
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I disagree. I think that having pride in yourself is deriving pleasure from your own achievements with or without the recognition of others. If you need others to recognize you, that's not pride IMO, that's insecurity. Ex: a guy who does well with women doesn't have to go around telling everyone he does well with women. He takes pride in the skills he's developed in that area of his life and enjoys the fruits of his labor with or without accolades.
/r/seduction26/12/19 10:28 PM
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but what if you have a great connection in person and are really close with them ? If the great connection is two-sided, then you won't have to "stop pursuing" because you'll both want to be in each other's life. But you stop pursuing when it's apparent that the other person doesn't want what you want (sex, romance, relationship, etc.)
/r/seduction26/12/19 01:13 PM
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and we still get pussy As do I, but I also get healthy, fulfilling relationships too.
/r/seduction26/12/19 01:09 PM
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I don't think you have a chance regardless of your game plan considering your use of "to mack these whores."
/r/seduction25/12/19 07:36 PM
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Then perhaps you should figure your money situation out first.
/r/seduction24/12/19 08:25 PM
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Except for the issue with legality. Also, if OP wanted to learn so badly, he wouldn't have an issue paying for it. Or reading and practicing free content like blog articles.
/r/seduction24/12/19 08:17 PM
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It's not a dating book.
/r/seduction24/12/19 01:49 PM
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The title is a bit confusing. Dating is a numbers game just means you have to put in a lot of numbers because you're likely to hear "no" more than "yes." IMO, the best way to go about this is to make yourself look as attractive as you can and then get to work hitting those numbers. Optimizing your looks will make dating easier.
/r/seduction24/12/19 01:47 PM
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Why don't you just buy them from the source?
/r/seduction24/12/19 01:26 PM
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And personally, this isn't a woman I would want to paint naked.
/r/seduction24/12/19 01:32 AM
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IMO, it's given by guys too afraid to get rejected or girls that want platonic male friends or attention. No thank you 😂 Agreed. I'd rather lose the girls who are on the fence about me quickly to make room for the women who are very interested.
/r/seduction24/12/19 12:34 AM
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Ask about the woman. Get HER talking. As cool as your buddy's stories might be, the girl's going to have a more enjoyable time if she feels like she's the center of attention.
/r/seduction22/12/19 11:58 PM
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Getting better pictures tends to help with OLD. I wish more guys realized this. I plan on going to her place soon ;-)) Just some advice: guys who brag about getting with hot women typically do so because they're not used to it. IMO, bragging actually reduces your chances of being with more attractive women in the future. Also, if you still want to brag about your conquests (I wouldn't, but you do you), I'd wait until after you closed the deal. Your brag is a bit premature considering you haven't…
/r/seduction22/12/19 04:33 PM
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Go for it.
/r/seduction22/12/19 03:13 PM
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Dumb.
/r/seduction22/12/19 05:29 AM
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Make that decision after you've hung out with her again. If she's still acting unusual, then try and figure out what's up.
/r/seduction22/12/19 05:07 AM
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Good one?
/r/seduction22/12/19 04:52 AM
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How do you deal with the social stigma around using PUA/game websites ? I don't talk about it. I learned how to talk to women from those places, but now I have little use for those websites/information. And I would never consider myself a PUA. I am a man. That is all. My second question is what is your own truth about it? I've always had a strong desire for the opposite sex. And I've always envisioned the ideal version of myself as a man who attracts even the most beautiful of women. So, I've wo…
/r/seduction22/12/19 04:45 AM
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You're overthinking this. So what do I do here? Invite her to hangout again and stop counting how many emojis she sends in her snaps.
/r/seduction22/12/19 02:21 AM
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I don't let a one night stand spend the night. Shit, I don't let a fwb spend the night either. So, my mornings are normal.
/r/seduction21/12/19 11:50 PM
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If a girl asks "what are we going to do?" when I invite her over, I just say "Chat and listen to music." You don't need a lot of entertainment to get a girl to come over.
/r/seduction21/12/19 11:07 PM
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Unless you're going to be catfishing women, who cares. But I'm sure any attractive celebrity would find success DMing women.
/r/seduction21/12/19 07:19 PM
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You could go after a girl your own age. Or you could have locked the door. Either way, you lost when you started going back and forth with a child. An amused look as you walked him out of the room would have been enough.
/r/seduction21/12/19 07:17 PM
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The issue with this approach is that it'll be next to impossible to develop a relationship with a woman if you think she's garbage. Also, you don't need to hate women to get laid. I've found that loving women gets you all up could ever want (sex, intimacy, love, etc) in the dating realm. He was ultra-confident and approached them regularly and without fear. This is what you should take from Ted Bundy. Volume + confidence are tenets of dating success.
/r/seduction21/12/19 06:18 PM
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Even girls I know that fuck around a lot, it takes a while to get them into bed You're likely acting like too much of a boyfriend. Sometimes, a woman will slow down how quickly she hops into a bed with a man if she thinks it will increase her chance of getting commitment from said guy (aka she doesn't want to come off as easy). How can I fix this? By not providing too much non-sexual value up front. That means keep texting to a minimum, avoid boyfriend-y dates (ex: a nice restaurant), and cut wo…
/r/seduction21/12/19 01:17 PM
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You can cut through the gray area by taking the interaction as far as you can go. For example, if you're chatting with a girl and aren't really sure if she's interested, ask her out. She'll either agree (and actually show up to the date) or she won't. Watch her actions, not her words. You know I also don't want to fall into the extreme on the other end of the spectrum - that is rejecting people too easily A general rule of thumb is to try two or three times before you bail. That way, you've give…
/r/seduction21/12/19 04:44 AM
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This is why you don't go the "become her friend before you ask her out" route. It's a massive waste of time. Just grab your balls and ask her out. If she rejects you, wear it on the chin and go find another girl.
/r/seduction21/12/19 12:55 AM
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I have expressed interest towards girls This is fine. You have to show some level of interest in the beginning or the woman won't think you're interested and will move on. Likely, she won't even register you're there in the first place unless you make some sort of move. would call excessive. This is where it becomes an issue. There's nothing wrong with hitting on a girl, or asking her out, or asking her over, or trying to have sex, etc. All of that is good and necessary to have romantic relation…
/r/seduction21/12/19 12:42 AM
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Lol they won't.
/r/seduction20/12/19 12:30 AM
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Huh, that's odd. Have you thought about toning down the texting and just keeping it to hanging out and setting up plans?
/r/seduction19/12/19 09:55 PM
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Oh yeah that will definitely hurt your chances.
/r/seduction19/12/19 09:54 PM
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That's great, but everyone has a different frequency of texting they enjoy. This girl sounds like me, as in she doesn't text too often. And can't hangout everytime i want cuz if she's not busy I'm busy and if I'm not busy , she's busy at work. Do a little planning, ask her what her week looks like, and then choose a date/time that works for both of you.
/r/seduction19/12/19 09:39 PM
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give her a poem haha I wouldn't. I am not afraid of rejection Just ask her out to something simple, like coffee.
/r/seduction19/12/19 09:34 PM
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"Thank you" + a warm smile. I find myself brushing off often when a girl compliments me just so I look not reactive to it How so?
/r/seduction19/12/19 09:32 PM
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You sound needy. Just text her to set up the next hangout session. I'm not sure why you need to text her more often than that.
/r/seduction19/12/19 09:25 PM
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Ah. My recommendation is to work on consistency so you don't have to go three months without getting laid again. That sounds like a nightmare.
/r/seduction19/12/19 09:15 PM
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they have a "dry run" in their pick up? How long is a dry spell for you? But overall, no. I used to when I was new to dating, but not anymore. Once you have experienced a certain level of woman, it's tough to go backwards. Besides, my "dry spells" nowadays are like a week, maybe. Note: my "acceptable" body type is thin-thick. I'll pass on skinny girls, and I'll pass on fat girls. But it's possible that chicks you consider "fat" I might consider thick. Keep that in mind when reading my response.
/r/seduction19/12/19 08:43 PM
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and to do things that bring you enjoyment instead of doing things that bring you down. Having sex with beautiful women brings me enjoyment, so I took the time necessary to make this happen consistently. For me, giving up on attracting women wasn't an option because I desired it so badly. I believe if men value this skill as highly as I did, there's no way they're not going to learn it. Like you said, it's a learned skill. So get to work.
/r/seduction19/12/19 08:23 PM
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Yeah I'd recommend avoiding doing magic tricks in a bar. That's lame and quite weird. I'd say by how you conduct yourself. A girl is going to view a well dressed man who is talking with people warmly but confidently as having higher value than the man in the corner with a hoodie on avoiding eye contact.
/r/seduction19/12/19 08:19 PM
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Focus on meeting in person. Note: intentions can change depending on the girl.
/r/seduction16/12/19 02:51 AM
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Lol it's not. He should have rescheduled on the spot when she cancelled on him. You won't get very far if you throw away women the first time they cancel on you. With that being said, if she cancels often, then she's likely not interested and OP should move on.
/r/seduction16/12/19 12:10 AM
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Reschedule. I don’t want to seem needy but I don’t things to just die off either. Rescheduling a date isn't needy. Needy is any action that you do out of fear that a woman will leave you. Finally how can I stop worrying about whether she cancelled for real By having an exciting life or other women you can make plans with instead.
/r/seduction15/12/19 05:30 PM
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I don't consider myself a PUA. I don't like the term. I'm just a man that enjoys being with women. With that being said, I'd say it took me about 2-3 years to get laid for the first time (I started in my teens with very little social skills), but then things snowballed from there.
/r/seduction13/12/19 11:56 PM
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Lol you would be correct. If she doesn't think you're hot it'll be a palm to the face This would be really annoying. What's your reaction to this?
/r/seduction13/12/19 10:40 PM
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Good point, but part of "game" is being able to identify which girls that you're attracted to seem attracted back. No sense in making it harder for yourself. That's why you gotta optimize how you look. the girls are outright rude/hard instant rejections and turn away This has not been my experience. Girls tend to politely decline if they're not interested. Granted, I'm not insulting women that I hit on, so that could be it.
/r/seduction13/12/19 12:56 PM
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However we're both kind of horn dogs playing a game of who can be the most casual and flippant about it. What do you mean exactly? For me, casual dating is pretty easy. Just setup a time to see each other, hangout, and have sex. Rinse and repeat.
/r/seduction08/12/19 10:19 PM
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Girls like a guy that other girls like. Fame is a great aphrodisiac.
/r/seduction07/12/19 11:48 PM
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then you risk coming off as platonic, beta, no balls, not assertive, etc I don't worry about this because I'm confident in my abilities on a first date. But perhaps this is an area you still need to work on. i think at the least the guy should try to kiss or make out on the first date. Test it then. I don't think it's a great idea, but by all means, try it. even if he doesn't get it, it shouldn't be a complete blow out and seems recoverable. compared to trying to escalate to sex but not being ab…
/r/seduction06/12/19 12:20 AM
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I wouldn't kiss her on the first date unless you plan on sleeping with her. I say this because a) PDA isn't really my style b) I want her desiring that kiss when she's away from me and c) when I kiss a new woman, I fully intend to escalate to sex. i think just doing a day 2 and making out a little would be a safer and higher chance of getting you the next dates with the girl I think the best way to get to a second date is by having a solid first date. Chat with her, touch her, and then get the f…
/r/seduction05/12/19 10:35 PM
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I mean, it’s Tinder. I love this misconception about Tinder. Guys think they can just make a profile and have girls come over whenever. Sure, it happens, but you still have to put in some effort (aka a date). But to answer your question, it seems like you were trying too hard. And the shirtless picture wasn't a great idea. But I wouldn't get sexual via text with a woman until you have already had sex with her. Next time, just ask her out.
/r/seduction05/12/19 01:43 AM
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By adding it, in essence it’s a “chase”. It's tough to chase something when it's given to you. I think you're overthinking this whole "I don't chase girls" thing. The essence of that means that you go for what you want with a girl (a date, sex, a relationship, etc.) but you don't get too hung up over her if it doesn't work out. You just try again with a different woman. But I can give you a foolproof way of never "chasing women": don't interact with them. Boom, problem solved.
/r/seduction02/12/19 11:35 PM
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Next time, add her on snap and setup a date. I don't understand why you wanted to "outman" her by making her add you. That is such a small thing to worry about.
/r/seduction02/12/19 09:24 PM
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I'm a dude, and I personally don't like colored contacts on women. I think they look fake and would prefer a woman embrace her natural eye color. With that being said, if you feel they will make you happier, try them out. You won't know people's reactions until you try.
/r/seduction02/12/19 03:15 AM
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Yeah I'm decent, but nothing special. Do your best to optimize your looks. But obviously each person has their own ceiling due to genetics. Things that I addressed: changing my hair style to something more fashionable, getting braces to straighten my teeth, dressing better, growing facial hair, and grooming (I'm a hairy fuck). I never had to address my weight because I had already been in the gym many years before I started this process, so that was already habit. Lifting weights would be a good…
/r/seduction01/12/19 04:48 PM
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"Then, you can focus on other areas of improvement."? Shouldn't I improve myself first, and only then work on hitting women? When you hit on women, you will be improving yourself (socially). But let me ask you this: at what point will you be "ready" to hit on women? There's always something else to improve. IMO, you're ready now because your biggest obstacles with women won't be physical (since you said you're a decent looking guy and you're not overweight), they'll be social (which you'll learn…
/r/seduction30/11/19 02:00 PM
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In the Tinder Gold queue? Same, but I'm not sure if that's accurate or not. It might just be a way to convince people to buy their premium service. I haven't been very serious with it though.. Would like to meet people in person. Tinder is just another way to meet women. Just get into the habit of doing it daily, and use it as a supplement to meeting women IRL. Idk maybe I should actually go for some dates on there. I don't know why you would be on tinder if you're not trying to get the women on…
/r/seduction30/11/19 01:46 PM
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Since you're good looking, have you considered dating apps? Get some solid pictures, swipe as much as you can, and setup some dates. But nursing is a nice major for dating opportunities. And I wouldn't worry too much about dating your classmates. If you were working together, that would be a different story. But they can't fire you from school.
/r/seduction30/11/19 04:36 AM
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Why would you want someone to become dependent on you? That's an unattractive trait in a woman.
/r/seduction29/11/19 11:49 PM
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And that's my issue with a lot of this sub. That's my issue as well. Instead of manipulation, I advocate developing yourself to such a degree that the value you offer to a woman is so high that you're the obvious pick for a relationship. But that takes work and people want the quick fixes. Don't be surprised when you actually fall in love with someone who has higher self-esteem, you try to pull this shit on them, and they leave you for good. This is spot on. High quality women won't put up with …
/r/seduction29/11/19 11:48 PM
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As you get better, you'll need to spend less and less time in your dating life because you'll become more efficient. You'll know what to do and how to do it. But, that takes time to develop. For me, my dating life was my number one priority in my late teens/early twenties. I spent a lot of my free time figuring that side of my life out. I cut out other things (like watching TV or fucking around on the internet) so I had more time for dating. You can tell how important something is to you by how …
/r/seduction29/11/19 09:24 PM
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I like to keep things simple: meet her, sleep with her, and develop a relationship with her (whether casual or serious). I don't intend to put on a performance any time I hit on a woman.
/r/seduction29/11/19 09:04 PM
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For what purpose?
/r/seduction29/11/19 02:04 AM
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My thoughts exactly. If he has the confidence to keep his hand in the air like that, why doesn't he just go up to the girl and talk to her?
/r/seduction29/11/19 01:34 AM
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Ever try something called a conversation? 😉 In all seriousness, no. I would learn the basics and get really good at those. Note: I didn't google it, but I bet it's a marketing technique. As far as I know, humans can't do telekinesis yet.
/r/seduction29/11/19 01:02 AM
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I don't use kisses all that much (women do), but emojis and "lol" are fine. I would just keep the texting frequency at a minimum, and don't use a period to end your last sentence (I was told I came off as cold when I used to do this).
/r/seduction29/11/19 12:56 AM
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Try to avoid lol and lmao unless she's the type that uses them a lot. I disagree. It's texting, not writing a legal document. I used to punctuate and write out acronyms for things, but women would comment that I came off as cold while doing this. So, I ditched the periods, started lolling, and now use a wide variety emojis.
/r/seduction29/11/19 12:51 AM
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Or the Adonises that can't get laid.
/r/seduction29/11/19 12:20 AM
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is by far the most important thing when it comes to getting laid. For some women, yes. But you're forgetting that each woman has a different type. So a woman may hate how I look, but love how you look. And then a second woman may think the exact opposite. Your goal is to make yourself look the best you can, and then take action. But very good looking guys can get away with having zero 'game' False. They MIGHT be able to land a random hookup every once in awhile, but not with consistency. And hav…
/r/seduction29/11/19 12:18 AM
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just a tall guy There are plenty of tall guys that would disagree with you. I know you're trying to be positive but looks are 95% of what matters You're making an excuse not to put the work in. Looks matter more or less to each woman. For some women, it might be 95%, but these kinds of women are VERY rare or they're just looking for a one night stand.
/r/seduction28/11/19 11:28 PM
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No. But looks matter. That's why I straightened my teeth, grew facial hair, style my hair, stay in shape, dress in decent clothes, groom, etc. There's maintenance to a sharp image. So optimize your looks. But more important than looks is action. I consider myself handsome, but it's rare that I get hit on. I MUST take action if I want things to happen with women. You only find success in your dating life through a mountain of rejection. There's no other way.
/r/seduction28/11/19 11:23 PM
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Do people use "daygame" to find sex only or do they actually use it to find relationships? Do people use "nightgame" to find sex only or do they actually use it to find relationships? Do people use their social circle to find sex only or do they actually use it to find relationships? The answer to all of these: it depends on the person.
/r/seduction26/11/19 10:57 PM
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Good. As long as the date doesn't drag on for too long, this is a solid first date. Get her talking. You don't want to bore a woman to death by talking and talking and talking. I bet this is especially true with very attractive women. It's something you gotta be conscious of and work on. 4&5: Great. My best guess is that you're either boring her by talking too much and not showing much interest in her, or you're coming across as a typical nice guy which doesn't generally stir a woman to continue…
/r/seduction24/11/19 09:44 PM
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Yes, we'll never know what it's like being a woman. And some of their opinions about certain things are certainly valuable. But following a process on how to get women given by women is not a smart idea.
/r/seduction24/11/19 09:28 PM
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Yes, we'll never know what it's like being a woman. And some of their opinions about certain things are certainly valuable. But following a process on how to get women given by women is not a smart idea.
/r/seduction24/11/19 09:27 PM
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Agreed. I'm surprised that women don't see the irony of telling a nice guy "I would love to date someone like you" while NOT dating said nice guy.
/r/seduction24/11/19 07:14 AM
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I should have been more clearer. I didn’t mean to say that they advices are correct, but that they advises should be seriously taken in consideration. Unless it yields results, it shouldn't. But this is the main reason why they opinion matters. The issue with listening to each woman's opinion is that all girls have their own. How would you be able to take actionable steps if every girl is telling you something different? If you would look at cube from one side you would see a square, change pers…
/r/seduction24/11/19 06:26 AM
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Not if the cost is worth more than the car. Which is like saying the cost of being abused (physically, verbally, or mentally) is more than the worth of the (few) good times she has with the guy. Dump him and get a new car (er, guy). But regardless of the reason why she stays, Buckeye has a point; she still stays. Women are adults. It is her responsibility to leave a man who treats her poorly.
/r/seduction24/11/19 06:10 AM
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I agree that they advices usually are very generic, but all of them are valid. Incorrect. How can the advice be valid if the person giving said advice has zero experience? A woman has ZERO experience what it's like to approach, sleep with, date, etc. a woman as a man. Everyone has different experience, mindset and look at a world through their own glasses. These are the bases of their opinions, but not all opinions should be taken as advice.
/r/seduction24/11/19 05:51 AM
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Then the next question would be: if they don't like it, why don't they leave?
/r/seduction24/11/19 05:43 AM
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By "really good," they likely mean "who makes me feel VERY powerful emotions, fucks me right, keeps me on my toes, is dominant, etc." Guys take this as "be a nice guy." Those are two VERY different things.
/r/seduction24/11/19 05:43 AM
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I think OP is talking more about the process of it all. But, you can glean some great info from women if you can read between the lines.
/r/seduction24/11/19 05:40 AM
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But even here, the lesbian doesn't know how to get women as a man. It's likely very different.
/r/seduction24/11/19 05:37 AM
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I try to make the woman orgasm many times (if she's able to) and then not orgasm at all.
/r/seduction24/11/19 05:04 AM
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I’ve had plenty of successes bringing girls back from bars and on first dates but really simply, I can’t get a quality girl to want to date me. You might be treating these "quality women" differently than you would treat a woman from the bar. Maybe you're very confident with these bar hookup women, but then you play it safe with the higher quality women. Depending on your goals with this side of your life, you may want to focus ONLY on these higher quality women so that you become accustomed to …
/r/seduction24/11/19 04:55 AM
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My standards are pretty sky high because of the girls I grew up with. You just said above that you tried to have sex with a woman that you couldn't get hard to. Those aren't "sky high" standards IMO. Insecurity? How? Because it sounds like you're terrified if a woman leaves you. You need her to be there no matter what for you to feel secure. Except that it can be that we are so insecure about falling for a woman, Maybe, but I think it's stronger to understand that you might get heartbroken, and …
/r/seduction23/11/19 06:24 PM
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It's okay, but you need to understand that not all women will respond to you (even of they seem like they like you). This is likely the case. I'd move on. If you don't like this answer, go ahead and message her again with a different conversation starter. See if she responds. I don't think she will personally, but do what you want.
/r/seduction23/11/19 06:03 PM
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but that doesn't justify she not answering your question Eh, she doesn't owe OP anything. If she doesn't want to respond, she doesn't have to. But OP shouldn't waste anymore time on her if that's the case.
/r/seduction23/11/19 06:01 PM
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It likely means she's not interested. But, what was your last message? If it was some simple comment, then she might not have thought a response was needed. Note: sometimes, women give you their number/social media with no intention of it actually going anywhere (likely because they don't know how to reject you). It's a part of dating. Just keep moving and ask out another cute girl.
/r/seduction23/11/19 01:08 PM
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I'm not suggesting don't have standards. Because in order for me to even think about pursuing a woman she has to have a certain level of attractiveness to me. Otherwise, you're just wasting your time. Also my crush ignored me so I called her a whore Never a good idea. It just invites drama into your life. I suggest taking rejection well and then moving on to find a woman just as attractive (or more so) than your crush. This will give you what you want (an attractive woman that is interested in y…
/r/seduction23/11/19 03:33 AM
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going after girls I feel like that for is a waste of time because I honestly cant commit to anything with them because I truly see them as less then me and that I have no reason at all to treat them with respect. I have two recommendations for this: If that's how you view these women, then perhaps you should go after higher caliber girls. Personally, even if I don't want to commit to a woman (ex: fwb), I still treat the woman as best as I can because I a) want her to continue to come back to me,…
/r/seduction22/11/19 11:00 PM
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That's interesting. I bet it's very different. I met a French woman once and there were certainly several differences than with American women.
/r/seduction22/11/19 02:52 PM
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It's true. Some women will be taken. Or won't be into you. Or won't be into guys at all at the moment. You can't control for these factors, so just move on to the next cutie. But as for your taste for hotties, it can either help or hinder you. It can help you because if you only hit on beautiful women, you'll eventually become accustomed to talking to beautiful women (as in, you won't be afraid of them like most men are). BUT, if you only talk to a handful of stunners a year, your ability to tal…
/r/seduction22/11/19 03:12 AM
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I’ve been told I’m charismatic before but never intimidating... Charismatic is obviously good, and intimidating is also good, to a point. I've found that girls that are a little intimidated are also the ones that are very receptive to moving things forward. BUT, if you take this too far, you'll get girls literally shaking as you try to move things forward, which isn't where you want to be. If she's too intimidated, she won't be able to relax enough to let things happen. Note: if a woman isn't us…
/r/seduction22/11/19 03:01 AM
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Truthfully, it doesn't matter. I don't know a lot about these guys (aside from hearing them mentioned on similar subreddits), but what matters is the type of women YOU go for. Their 9 or 10 could be very different than yours. All you can do is take their information and then try it on a sizeable sample size of women (let's say 100 or so) that YOU are attracted to. If it works fairly consistently, great, improve upon it and get better results. If it doesn't work at all, or so infrequently that it…
/r/seduction22/11/19 02:52 AM
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Yes, getting women into bed and having relationships with women are two different skills. Each has its time and place. You need to learn both if you want to be long term happy with women.
/r/seduction22/11/19 02:47 AM
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Try online dating. You can "hit on" hundreds of women without even leaving your house. The only time you'd have to interact with them is on the actual date.
/r/seduction21/11/19 01:13 AM
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Which part? Because if you're a dude, you're likely not going to get approached regardless. You will have to do the approaching. With that being said, it's much easier to be present without headphones/looking at your phone. You can jump on opportunities this way.
/r/seduction21/11/19 12:15 AM
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"I wonder what she's like" is way better than "I hope she likes me." Not all girls are going to like you. You may as well accept this now. I'm sure abundance has a part of it. But no, I don't meditate (although I'm sure it's a good idea) and I don't know much about Stoicism. I guess I did affirmations when I first started actively working on improving my skills with women, but the best advice that I can give you is go out and get some experience. I've been in so many situations with women that y…
/r/seduction18/11/19 05:39 AM
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I date primarily online because of my full schedule. I'm aware it's not for everyone, but it's a great option for busier people because you can hop on it whenever you have some time. If you don't want to go the online dating route, then you'll have to block out time each week to hit up malls, coffee shops, fancier bars/lounges, etc. and talk to women.
/r/seduction18/11/19 05:04 AM
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I don't know much about Todd (I have only heard the name mentioned on Reddit), but I bet if you went out with him, you'd be surprised by how many girls reject him. Rejection is a part of the process. I wouldn't consider it unhealthy, but you don't know anything about the women you approach aside from that you're attracted to them. When I go on a first date, my mindset is more curious than anything. I'm curious about the girl. I'm curious where it will go, if anywhere. I'm curious if we'll get al…
/r/seduction18/11/19 04:44 AM
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and I've done a few approaches, but I still don't have the social life I want. You're going to have to do more than a few. Guys who do well with women have approached (whether that be IRL, online, social circle, etc.) THOUSANDS of women. It's okay to start small, but you must be increasing this number over time. One per week is going to to take you ages to see any real difference in how you act with women. but it can be demoralizing to be ghosted after a seemingly okay approach. You'll get used …
/r/seduction18/11/19 04:14 AM
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This is overthinking to epic proportions. Women don't remember you. They don't care. I've matched with women online multiple times before they agreed to a date, and they had no idea they'd matched with me before. I've even delivered a package to a girl, called her, AND she had sent over booty pics via snap (no date) and she STILL didn't remember me when we went on a date months/a year+ later. If you become this successful, THEN worry about this. But at that point, you should already be at a leve…
/r/seduction17/11/19 12:45 AM
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This is a two part opinion: Don't tell a woman you're going to fuck before you've had sex with her. It lowers your chance of making it happen. Even if that's your intention, you don't actually know if it's gonna happen because she may not want to (even if it seems like she does via text). Sure, but it's likely you've already dropped the ball on this one. Tinder is about speed, and hitting a woman up a month after NOT making something happen will likely result in nada.
/r/seduction14/11/19 12:38 AM
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Drinks. With movies, you don't get to talk, which is crucial for a first date. With dinner, the bill can get expensive quick and IMO it's too fancy for someone you've never met before.
/r/seduction09/11/19 02:08 AM
1

Contingency plans. This could be scheduling multiple dates in a night, having a project to work on if the date falls through, etc. If a woman informs me before the date that she's not going to make it, I'll reschedule with her right then and there. If she doesn't respond to one of my two confirmation texts (which I explained in another comment), then I'll simply move on.
/r/seduction09/11/19 02:02 AM
1

To avoid being stood up, send a confirmation text earlier on in the day to confirm that the date is still on. In addition, send a text when you're getting ready to leave to confirm that she's getting ready to leave/has left. If I don't receive a text back for either one of these texts, I don't show up to the date.
/r/seduction09/11/19 01:51 AM
3

That's very generous of you.
/r/seduction09/11/19 01:45 AM
1

Do the exact same thing except at a coffeeshop instead of a bar.
/r/seduction03/11/19 08:36 PM
2

It means she's going out on a date with another person. Considering you're not exclusive, all you can do is "play it cool." If you puff your chest and tell her not to go, don't be surprised if she bails. You have several options: Continue to see just her despite this information. Continue to see her and date other women. Drop her. I'd choose option 2, but you have to make your own decision.
/r/seduction03/11/19 08:21 PM
5

I tend to be playful with my words but masculine with my actions.
/r/seduction01/11/19 03:27 AM
1

More examples of what? Playfulness or masculine traits?
/r/seduction01/11/19 03:17 AM
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You absolutely can. I mix playfulness with strong eye contact, leading the interaction forward, and sexual dominance.
/r/seduction31/10/19 10:50 PM
1

Then try optimizing your looks, believing that some women will want to fuck you, and act accordingly. One of the biggest mistakes men make in dating is not taking enough action. The more women you meet, the more women will say yes to a date with you. The more women that say yes to a date, the more women you'll have sex with. The more women you have sex with, the more women you'll be in a relationship with. You can't control outcomes, but you sure as shit can control effort.
/r/seduction31/10/19 12:59 AM
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Ah, you're a woe is me type. You're not actually interested in changing, you just want to complain. Great, but I can't help you then.
/r/seduction30/10/19 02:01 AM
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False. But since you believe that, your reality will prove it to you.
/r/seduction29/10/19 03:19 PM
1

A scarcity mentality by definition is a belief that there's not enough of something. In this case, that's women. If you already know there's a shit ton of women, how can you have a scarcity mentality?
/r/seduction28/10/19 11:50 PM
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By meeting a shit ton of women. Or at least realizing there's a shit ton of women all around.
/r/seduction28/10/19 05:30 PM
1

What did you say for her not to reply to you?
/r/seduction28/10/19 05:22 PM
1

When you say dating, do you mean exclusively?
/r/seduction24/10/19 08:34 PM
2

Try once more, and if you still get rejected, just remain friends with her (while hitting on other women). She could just be inexperienced, or she could be uninterested. It's tough to tell via your post, but try once more to cover your bases. After that, it's on her to make things happens if that's what she wants.
/r/seduction24/10/19 12:30 AM
1

What tends to happen? You have sex and then the girl vanishes?
/r/seduction23/10/19 09:44 PM
1

if you compliment a girl too much it's proven, she will think you are below her and leave you for someone who doesn't compliment her that much Operative word: too much. Ofc I believe I'm below her in value... the trick is making her think I am not. Eh, I'm not one for tricks while dating. Why do you think you're below her on value?
/r/seduction22/10/19 03:16 AM
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You asked for very straightforward. But you're going to have to talk to her in all of the steps, except for maybe step four (but still probably then).
/r/seduction22/10/19 02:39 AM
2

You only do one night stands?
/r/seduction22/10/19 02:32 AM
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I don't generally follow them on social media. And if I do, I don't really post things with other girls outside of family. The only thing you have to be vigilant about is women posting things and tagging you. I've only had this be an issue once though.
/r/seduction22/10/19 01:16 AM
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However, I was wondering if I could use this insecurity to make her feel like I am a better catch This proves that you're not. If you honestly believe that she's sexy as is, telling her is fine. But if it's a ploy to get her in bed, be better. Note: the mark of a higher value man is his tendency to build people up. If you try to tear someone down, it's because you believe you're below them in value.
/r/seduction22/10/19 12:42 AM
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Meet woman. Ask woman out. Go on date with woman. Have sex with woman. Have relationship with woman.
/r/seduction22/10/19 12:34 AM
2

I am wondering if you or other people feel the same Absolutely. It would be best to work on one thing at a time until you get the hang of it, and then move onto the next. Too much information all at once just overwhelms people. in the way that i make sure she's not just shag potential for me Oh I see what you mean. Like you look for more than if she's attractive enough to sleep with when you're looking for a long term thing? That's completely reasonable because a relationship will only last so l…
/r/seduction22/10/19 12:26 AM
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Oh, gotcha. For me, I chose online dating because it allows me to "hit on women" whenever I want, wherever I am. Yes, I probably face more rejection by volume than if I did other types of dating, but I'm okay with that for the convenience of it.
/r/seduction22/10/19 12:09 AM
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Online dating. Or was this a rhetorical question 🤔
/r/seduction21/10/19 05:41 PM
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Good point. But like OP said, a lot of guys can get confused with all the overanalyzing going on. They need simple things they can apply today to see some kind of result, even if that's as small as a woman smiling at them. The beginning is the hardest part because you're faced with a mountain of rejection and very little in terms of success. I hope men realize this so they don't beat themselves up too much for getting rejected. Even very experienced men get rejected. And truthfully, they likely …
/r/seduction21/10/19 05:38 PM
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Interesting post. I agree with a lot of it, but disagree in certain spots. Let's discuss: some woman you will never attract Correct. A lot of guys think that once they develop a certain level of skill, they'll be getting all the women they hit on. Hilariously untrue. That experienced guy who does well with women only got there by getting rejected by WAY more women than he found success with. being on this sub which over analyzes everything If someone can't explain something simply, they likely d…
/r/seduction21/10/19 05:30 PM
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I'd go one step further and say come back when one of those dates turns to sex or a relationship.
/r/seduction20/10/19 08:33 PM
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I mean there is no escaping playing games when trying to date right? I don't think removing your attention from someone is playing a game. It's showing that person what kind of behavior you'll tolerate, and what kind you won't. But if her response was to "get even" (which I'm not sure what you mean by that), it's probably not a girl that I would want to build a relationship with anyways. In that case, I'll just next her completely now. I honestly think she will never stop. I would do the same. N…
/r/seduction20/10/19 03:21 PM
1

Or was she swooping... 🤔
/r/seduction20/10/19 06:04 AM
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I told her I don't play these stupid games, But you do, and have been for several months now. Go NC and forget about her? Yes. This whole accusing you of giving her number out is odd. Note: you can't control women's actions. But you can control your actions in response to women. So the next time a woman does crazy shit or tries to manipulate you, just remove your attention for a few days. If she continues to do it, remove her from your life altogether.
/r/seduction20/10/19 04:46 AM
1

Well in the old West, they would go "booty. Bootyyyy."
/r/seduction20/10/19 02:15 AM
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Right in the middle: confidence. I'd talk about the girl the bulk of the time, and let her slowly learn about these things about yourself. I've found infinitely more success with women by listening rather than talking. Note: I tend to be confident, borderline cocky, with my actions, and humble with my words. Give that a shot and see how it works for you.
/r/seduction19/10/19 12:37 AM
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Just try it.
/r/seduction19/10/19 12:11 AM
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If you're a guy: let her do the bulk of the talking, connect when you can, talk about her past relationships and sex, and touch her. If you're a girl: none. I'm a dude and have zero experience dating as a woman.
/r/seduction18/10/19 09:23 PM
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The eyes are part of the body...
/r/seduction17/10/19 11:17 PM
1

I would actually argue that White Knights (including the fake garden variety) get better results than either of those two. I disagree, unless your definition of "better results" is spending the night with hot women and listening to all their experiences with other men. If they do get lucky (in the truest sense of the word) then it's only when the girl is extremely vulnerable or extremely fed up with other men. Personally, I want a woman to want me at her highest, not her lowest. I don't want a w…
/r/seduction17/10/19 12:44 AM
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Because he doesn't want to be any kinds of friends with an attention whore. If this is your view on women, you're going to handicap your results with them. Well he didn't call her a whore or anything But you did in the above paragraph. I'm just kinda too busy right now to do that Excuse? I don't respect attention whores. Why would you try to sleep with someone you don't respect then? It is a theory I'm aware. I speak from experience and I recommend you don't hit on women like in your post. But d…
/r/seduction17/10/19 12:34 AM
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Nice guys offer her that all the time That's not a fulfilling relationship that nice guys offer her. No, offering her any kind of relationship out of the door is underselling yourself. Relationships fall in many categories. For instance, a friend with benefits is a casual relationship. he didn't do anything mean to the girl or call her names. "you seem hungry for attention. Your boobs almost fall out" Please say this to the next ten girls you hit on and report back to us how that goes XD. He sho…
/r/seduction16/10/19 03:55 AM
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I think you're wrong. You have nothing left to offer. If all a girl is looking for is an ego boost, you may be right. But the majority of women want a fulfilling, rewarding relationships (whether that be causal relationships or more serious ones). Random strangers hitting on her is only so fulfilling. What you guys think? I think your example is that of an asshole. Assholes get better results than nice guys, but less results than a genuine man/high value man (whatever you want to call it).
/r/seduction16/10/19 01:26 AM
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A bit immature, yes. Generally speaking, when a girl doesn't respond, she's not interested. It's okay to try a few times, but after that just take the hint and move on. And when you do move on, there's no need to announce it. Just do it. I gave her options to which she didn't reply. Really weird! It happens pretty often. Sometimes it's easier to not reply than to let someone down. But don't take it personally. Learn any lessons you can and apply them to the next girl.
/r/seduction16/10/19 12:03 AM
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I would have a specific date in mind, and pitch that. Then if that doesn't work, try a different day or time. If that still doesn't work, ask her when she's free and pick a day/time when you're both available. I'm thinking either tomorrow or Wednesday. Either will do.
/r/seduction14/10/19 10:04 PM
1

Sure.
/r/seduction14/10/19 09:59 PM
1

A couple days I guess. It's tough to say because when I'm on the apps, I swipe A LOT.
/r/seduction14/10/19 09:58 PM
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Try not kissing her on the first date unless she's back at your place and things are heading towards sex. Also, are you inviting these women back to your place on date one or two?
/r/seduction14/10/19 06:39 PM
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Could be an hour, a day, a week, or longer. Just depends on how often the girl checks the app.
/r/seduction14/10/19 06:21 PM
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You can still be friendly with her IRL, I just wouldn't text her or try to setup dates. You tried, she didn't want to, so you move on. No harm, no foul, but I wouldn't waste anymore time on a girl that doesn't want things to move forward when you do.
/r/seduction14/10/19 01:20 AM
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When you have some time to message a woman.
/r/seduction13/10/19 09:41 PM
2

You stop texting her and move on.
/r/seduction13/10/19 09:06 PM
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That should be fine. In terms of neediness, I don't think a single text to open up communication with this woman followed by setting up a date is needy. You're good IMO on that end.
/r/seduction13/10/19 04:10 PM
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Oh, you're only interested in meeting her on the weekend? Personally, I don't text much, but I make an exception to a woman I haven't slept with (and am making plans to do so). I would text her every 3-4 days leading up to the date so we keep in contact often enough so she doesn't forget about the date. All of those texts are fine. You're concerning too much about the specifics of the text, when the context (in terms of how the date went) is much more important.
/r/seduction13/10/19 05:24 AM
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This is good. And OP, yes, I would invite her back over again if it's appropriate. You don't have to go through drinks again.
/r/seduction12/10/19 11:08 PM
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I think that's a smart move. I think persisting until a clear "no" is the best way to do it. After that, I'm done. but how long is to long? ( I'll add that she's my classmate so I see her everyday) Each girl is different. The only way to know for sure if you waited too long is to ask her on a date or ask her to come over. Her answer will tell you.
/r/seduction12/10/19 11:07 PM
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She may have decided last minute that she didn't want to have sex. Or she was on her period. I've never had a girl leave like this, but a quick 180 happens occasionally. Is she hot enough to try again?
/r/seduction12/10/19 04:58 AM
1

Lol I watched A Beautiful Mind, but it's been awhile. I think you're talking about the bar scene though?
/r/seduction12/10/19 04:21 AM
1

If this is true, I'm glad I prefer brunettes. Although most of my buddies seem to like blondes. Maybe you're on to something...
/r/seduction12/10/19 04:04 AM
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All my serious relationships have been with women with brown hair. And I do FAR better with brunettes than blondes. It could also be because I tend to prefer brunettes though...
/r/seduction12/10/19 04:04 AM
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Lol negs. Yes, calibrated persistence is key. But if you're persisting through her telling you not to touch her, or pushing you away, you're walking on thin ice. Personally, I'd remove my attention and look elsewhere. she and I used to have a lot of fun being teaseful a week ago. If you waited too long to make a move, she may be over you.
/r/seduction12/10/19 03:13 AM
3

Personally, I just use text to setup dates (mainly). How are you meeting women?
/r/seduction12/10/19 03:01 AM
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If you think you can pull it off, go for it. If there's a big difference in your looks and how you carry yourself/talk to her in comparison to them, it could be a major turn on.
/r/seduction12/10/19 02:20 AM
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This leaves you as one of her buddies. Personally, I wouldn't go because the odds of anything happening with a bunch of buds (who likely want her as well) is small. Ask her out directly for some other night. You'll know pretty quickly if she's interested. Note: I would take the social circle game comment with a grain of salt. You'd have to be the most dominant/attractive guy there, which is very difficult unless you're a beast because it's all of HER friends. But I prefer one-on-one situations t…
/r/seduction12/10/19 01:22 AM
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Get solid pictures. The less attractive you are, the better these pictures should be. Also, don't think it's going to be a quick fix. Tinder is 75%+ dudes, so take this into consideration. I've done well on tinder, but that's because I've swiped more than just about any guy on reddit complaining about how it hasn't worked. It's a numbers game, and if you don't want to put in the numbers, don't bother. Note: your bio is marginally important. I've had the same 8 word bio for awhile now and have do…
/r/seduction12/10/19 12:01 AM
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Agreed, especially if there are other people shirtless/in swimsuits.
/r/seduction11/10/19 11:54 PM
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No, you don't go on dates with a FWB. You invite her over to your place, or you go to her place, and have sex. That's it. If you take her on dates, you're sending her the wrong message and she's likely to get confused or hurt (she thinks you're dating, but you only see her as a FWB). If you develop emotional feelings for her down the line, then absolutely take her on dates (if you want). But if you're only interested in a FWB, no dates.
/r/seduction11/10/19 09:58 PM
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Yeah, but even if you're really into a girl, you hit a point where you HAVE to realize she's not as into you as you are into her. That's usually when I bail. I only want women who are as excited about me as I am about them.
/r/seduction11/10/19 09:02 PM
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You seem like a nice guy but I don't really socialize with anyone outside of work Polite rejection. I have a daughter around your age so I don't think we would have anything in common anyway besides a casual conversation. Polite rejection number two. Take care and I might see you around Polite rejection number three terminating the conversation. I really don't see how you think this is a shit test in which OP should persist.
/r/seduction11/10/19 09:00 PM
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It's not hard to put in a movie with a kissing scene and wait for said scene to work that question seamlessly into the conversation? Come on now. Personally, I would have already moved on. I MIGHT keep her as a friend if she were really cool, but I'm a sexual man, and I look for sexual women when I date. Conservative women wouldn't like being with me, so I do them the favor of letting them go so they can find a more conservative man. This is what I suggested to OP.
/r/seduction11/10/19 08:57 PM
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I wouldn't. It's a clear no. You'd look like a doofus asking her out after that text.
/r/seduction11/10/19 08:50 PM
2

This would be epic. Then turn it into a daughter/mother showdown...or threesome.
/r/seduction11/10/19 08:49 PM
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"No worries. Take care :)"
/r/seduction11/10/19 08:48 PM
2

I usually do first dates at a bar or a coffee shop. It should NOT cost you that much money. You can either ask her over that night after the date, or on the second date.
/r/seduction11/10/19 08:47 PM
2

In that case, don't go. Just text her "Hey (insert name), I don't think tonight's going to work."
/r/seduction11/10/19 08:44 PM
1

And OP didn't say she owed him anything either. He's just confused as to why she's doing this and wants advice on how to proceed. Note: "Why won't you kiss me?" is a really lame thing to ask a woman. It almost guarantees you a spot in the friend zone.
/r/seduction11/10/19 08:42 PM
1

I recommend trying to pin down a date/time now. No need to wait until Wednesday or Thursday.
/r/seduction11/10/19 08:30 PM
1

Depends. If you truly don't want to go on the date, then don't go. It's your life, do as you wish. If you don't want to go because you're nervous how things will turn out, then I would go. But average-decent looking isn't really what I'm looking for, so I probably wouldn't have agreed in the beginning.
/r/seduction11/10/19 08:26 PM
1

Correct, but OP doesn't owe this woman anymore of his time either. It goes both ways.
/r/seduction11/10/19 08:24 PM
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I've only had this happen to me a handful of times, but I always end things after a girl refuses a kiss. The reason is because I don't view a kiss as anything special, so if she's not ready to kiss me, then a) she's really NOT into me and I'm wasting my time or b) she's VERY conservative, which won't work with my personality and desires. If she's a cool girl, keep her as a friend. But I would move my romantic attention to someone who wants the same things you want.
/r/seduction11/10/19 08:23 PM
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Wow this is detailed. I'm going to have to break this puppy up. Ok - I could do Saturday afternoon? Should be done w my classes by 4” I'd use this. If she says Saturday doesn't work, then follow up with Sunday. If she says that Sunday doesn't work either, then follow up with "which day works best for you?" Think you said Saturdays aren't ideal for dates Saturdays are great for dates. If it works for your schedule, go for it. or your thoughts on "time it takes to respond to text" I used to pay mo…
/r/seduction11/10/19 02:16 AM
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I personally don't send texts that same day because my dates are generally in the evening/at night. I usually send one the next day and roll right into scheduling date two. But this changes after we have sex for the first time. I'll send her: "I had a great time tonight 🙂" After the first time (and if we decide to continue to see each other), I like to keep this up, but I admit I don't do it everytime. It's more of an every now and again thing if we do something unusually fun or different. And y…
/r/seduction06/10/19 07:37 PM
1

I would just roll right into scheduling the date. I would confirm the date since a) you haven't slept with her yet and b) since it's somewhere you'll have to go (aka not at your place since you want to do ice cream). I just type something like "still on for tonight?" for confirmation texts. Note: women flake/cancel on guys. There's no getting around this. All you can do is send confirmation texts to avoid wasting your time, and emotionally prepare for it so when it does happen, you don't blow up…
/r/seduction06/10/19 07:31 PM
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Interesting read. I agreed with some, I disagreed with some. Following his buffet metaphor, sure there's plenty of options, but you always have your favorite food. Just transform yourself into steak so it's the obvious pick over things like hot dogs. Also, I completely disagree with him when he says to tell the girl you're exclusive but to do what you want anyways. But that's a personal thing: I choose not to lie. And honestly, you don't have to with women. They're pretty open to things. But my …
/r/seduction05/10/19 03:22 PM
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I'm not sure what HV is, but I'm glad it went well. Personally, I would invite her over to my place. Obviously this is a judgment call on your part by how comfortable you are with this. But if you still want to do ice cream, then the first text is slightly better IMO. Any specifics or subtle things I should be aware of? In terms of what?
/r/seduction05/10/19 02:54 PM
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That would be an average burn at best if it were true. Try again. But you're just mad that she has 163K more subscribers than you. Also, if it was such a great post, then why did it get removed?
/r/seduction05/10/19 02:49 PM
1

Lol I lasted about 15 seconds before I clicked over to CandidMommy 😂 She's lovely.
/r/seduction05/10/19 12:57 AM
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I've never understood why they'd purposely screw up their chances with a woman for validation on reddit or for a joke. They can't think that would work. Seems like a waste of time to me. I've had plenty of women tell me what guys say to them on the dating apps (which is my primary source for dating) and I'm thinking "well dude, you're an idiot, but thanks for making this easier. I must seem very charming compared to "club that pussy with a mallet" guy." 😂 Let them get adulation online while you …
/r/seduction05/10/19 12:42 AM
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If you're not careful you'll use it as a crutch and need to drink whenever you hit on women. Be careful. But I did the same thing and it's helpful at first. It will show you that you can "get away with" (for lack of a better word) more than you thought with women. You'll push the envelope sans inhibitions. However, as you get more experienced, it will actually hurt your chances with women (especially if you have a tendency to drink too much). This is because as you get better, you tend to go for…
/r/seduction05/10/19 12:34 AM
2

That's fine, but I would recommend being her friend after your emotions fade from her (and preferably after you're with a new girl that you're crazy about).
/r/seduction04/10/19 10:00 PM
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Don't even know what to do man this sucks You move on and hit on other women. Rejection sucks, but right now you're taking the "woe is me" position. That's a weak position because it takes away the choice you do have: to hit on other chicks. Keep your composure with this girl in class (aka remain friendly) but remove your attention from her and put it on other worthwhile areas. Be proud that you tried with this girl (most guys can't even do that). Sure, it didn't work out, but most of the time i…
/r/seduction04/10/19 09:37 PM
1

There's a difference between learning it and actually applying it. Getting good with girls can be an extremely painful process. You're going to embarrass yourself. You're going to have to change things about yourself. You're going to get rejected a sickening amount of times. And you're going to have to do all of these things before you find any success. Likely, many times. Most guys just aren't willing to do this. So yes, there's plenty of resources out there. But the number of men who will read…
/r/seduction04/10/19 09:19 PM
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0 for 2 on making a move. Be prepared to get rejected a lot more than this if you want to be good with women. But to answer your question, just smile and say "no worries" when they reject you, then say you've got to be going and wish them a good day. It's only awkward because you're not used to being rejected yet. It'll get easier with practice.
/r/seduction04/10/19 08:28 PM
1

Lol I'd bite both of them hard.
/r/seduction04/10/19 03:38 AM
0

Lol I'd swipe right on her, even if her profile said 51. But I'm a fan of older chicks.
/r/TheRedPill04/10/19 12:23 AM
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Which day does she have volunteering? A general rule to follow when setting up dates is to pitch one day/time, and see if it works. If it doesn't work for her, pitch a second one. If that one doesn't work, ask her what day would work. If she still can't come up with a date, end the conversation and try again in three or four days. If you try again three or four days later and she still doesn't give you a date or time, then it's safe to assume she doesn't want to go on a date. You can move on.
/r/seduction03/10/19 10:46 PM
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Lol it seems like rich_god has one of those social circles that is big enough where it's a viable option. It's certainly not my forte, but the few times I was able to leverage it it was stupid easy. It's probably the last thing I will focus on, but I think it's a good skill to have (especially being able to create a social circle from scratch).
/r/seduction03/10/19 10:39 PM
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You would do it at home when your parents aren't there, in a car, at her place, in a hotel, at a friend's place, etc. When your logistics suck, a little ingenuity goes a long way. How is it a waste if I can master the art and get good at it? Because part of the art is closing. It's like creating a business, marketing hard, getting customers through the door, but not having anything to sell. You can think that you've got a girl hooked, but until you've closed things out, you'll never know. There'…
/r/seduction03/10/19 10:34 PM
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This is excellent information. Thank you for putting the effort into writing this comment, I appreciate it. Keep crushing it via your social circle because it seems like you know a thing or two.
/r/seduction02/10/19 11:34 PM
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I do primarily online dating, so it depends on how quickly they respond. If we message back and forth pretty quickly, I'll ask her out the same day we matched. If she takes forever to respond, then I'll ask her out as soon as we've messaged a few times. Just test it and track your results. With one girl, text her the same day. With the next, text her the following day. Do this over a prolonged period of time and see which performs better, and then ONLY do that one. Then test something else out. …
/r/seduction02/10/19 11:31 PM
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Then just shoot her a text tomorrow morning if you don't want to send one to her tonight. Curious why you don't shoot a girl a message the same day you meet her though?
/r/seduction02/10/19 10:51 PM
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I appreciate the tips, but I don't think I was clear with my question. How do you build your social circle (assuming you had to start over from scratch, with no friends in your current city)? Do you just talk to strangers and then see if they want to grab a drink or do something if your conversation goes well? Or do you meet the majority of your friends through work/other friends?
/r/seduction02/10/19 10:39 PM
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Lol you're overthinking it. Just shoot her a message later tonight or early tomorrow setting up a date for as soon as you're available. Friday would be fine, or Saturday, or Sunday. It doesn't really matter, just find a date you're both available. I also know she goes to school so Monday probably wouldn’t work Let her tell you what does and does not work. If you (mentally) make decisions for her, you're shortchanging yourself. There have been plenty of times I thought a girl wasn't interested, o…
/r/seduction02/10/19 10:31 PM
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So you want to get a girl to want to have sex with you, then you want to bail without having sex? I could think of 100 other better uses of your time. If you're trying to learn this area of your life, why are you stopping short from going all the way with a woman? It's like opening up a business without having anything to sell. It's pointless.
/r/seduction02/10/19 09:54 PM
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Good social circle, a fulfilling and happy life and solid leadership are more effective in my experience than the usual pickup strategies. I agree, if you have the personality for social circle (a more extroverted personality) then do that. It's very easy to close things out when the girls know of you through other people. But rich_god, how do you maintain/build your social circle? I have very little experience with this area because I chose to focus (and get good at) dating apps.
/r/seduction02/10/19 09:46 PM
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I'm already experiencing it, but I appreciate it. I hope you sort through your feelings on your own sexual interest.
/r/seduction02/10/19 08:50 PM
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I agree. Then, change the subject and talk about other things. I've only had about two girls push it when I don't answer (truthfully, most girls don't even ask). Just double down and say something like "I'm not going to tell you this, so if it's something you need to know, I'm probably not the guy for you."
/r/seduction02/10/19 12:22 PM
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Ah. It's not crazy, it's likely what you've been taught growing up. Sometimes you have to unlearn some things because there's nothing wrong with getting excited by women. Hell, the girls that like you ENJOY being checked out by you. It makes them feel sexy (as it should, because they are). Btw what do you mean by low effort? Girls that are cool with seeing me about once a week, with very little texting in between. I'm not the type of guy to hangout with the same girl everyday and text her all da…
/r/seduction02/10/19 12:16 PM
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I'm actually transitioning from focusing on this side of my life to focusing on my financial life, so my goal is to maintain a few low effort, long term relationships so that I can devote most of my time to work while still getting my sexual and emotional needs met at a baseline level. What part of your sexuality are you ashamed of?
/r/seduction02/10/19 03:36 AM
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Yes, deception is not the goal. But you're missing the point. The point is NOT to lie, deceive, con, etc. women. The point is to develop the skills to have the types of relationships you want with women. Incidentally, the things that make you better with women also make you a better man overall. Wouldn't your life be better if you were a more confident man? You'd go after more of what you want in life. Also, chicks dig this. Wouldn't your life be better if you didn't care what others thought of …
/r/seduction02/10/19 12:22 AM
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Or just don't answer the question. It's really none of their business anyways.
/r/seduction01/10/19 10:30 PM
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We'll find out when you ask her to come over this week.
/r/seduction01/10/19 09:51 PM
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Sometimes, yes; always, no. Note: it hasn't "worked" yet. Let us know when you've sealed the deal (again).
/r/seduction01/10/19 09:17 PM
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Lol don't you love it when a girl asks this question? I usually respond with something like "a few ;)" or "eh, I don't talk about that." If she pushes it, then I look for an exit. But next time, don't lie. Think of your response now so you'll know how to handle it in the future.
/r/seduction01/10/19 09:09 PM
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I'm interested to see what your numbers end up as. If you pay attention, it's amazing how many cute girls you walk by in a given day. Each one is an opportunity. Good luck with your goal and keep us posted.
/r/seduction01/10/19 01:23 AM
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I don't much think about coming across as needy, but I'd rather know beforehand if the girl isn't planning on showing up than sit at a coffee shop for a half hour waiting for a girl who never planned on coming. The 30 min. + commute time you save is well worth the 1% chance she'll think you're needy.
/r/seduction30/09/19 11:53 PM
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Yeah, I prefer when women are honest with me as well, but as you likely already know, you can't count on that. She probably didn't want to make you feel bad or something bad has happened to her in the past when she was honest, so she does this instead. But who knows, I'm just speculating. sucks because I’m dating 3-4 girls at the moment and she was my fave I hate when that happens. But the good thing about dating multiple women is that you don't go without sex/affection when you lose a girl. Tim…
/r/seduction30/09/19 03:22 AM
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That weekend is perfectly acceptable. In the beginning of the dating process, speed is important. There are just too many things that can come up in the girl's life that make her forget about you.
/r/seduction30/09/19 02:47 AM
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Generally speaking, people aren't so busy that they can't spare an hour or two a week to date. So yes, she's not that interested to prioritize you over other things in her life. But don't beat yourself up over it, you just met her at a busy time in her life. Focus on other girls and move on. I would respond "No worries. Take care 🙂" and then I would delete her number so I wouldn't be tempted to text her again.
/r/seduction30/09/19 12:05 AM
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So she said to you "I really like being with you and want you to be my boyfriend" and then never got around to making you her boyfriend?
/r/seduction28/09/19 08:10 PM
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Define what you mean. There's a difference between being led on and not being able to take her hints.
/r/seduction27/09/19 10:34 PM
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I just shoot the girl something like "still on for tomorrow?" I've made the mistake in the past of NOT sending this text and having the girl not show up.
/r/seduction27/09/19 04:04 PM
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That is good news. But any of those texts will do. I'd set this up sooner rather than later so she doesn't make plans for Sunday.
/r/seduction27/09/19 12:54 AM
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A couple things: Don't count your chickens before they hatch. A lot can change in a week+. You build attraction IRL, not via text. Try to hang with her sooner. The further out the date/meetup, the higher the odds of cancelling. To destroy neediness, you need other things (other women, inspiring goals, engrossing hobbies, etc.) in your life that are as exciting or more so than hanging with this one girl.
/r/seduction25/09/19 10:01 PM
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It's just not my style to send pictures, but it seems like you want to. Send one if you want and then get right into setting up the date.
/r/seduction25/09/19 07:29 PM
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Instead of the "value text," I'd just text her in regards to something you talked about then transition into setting something up. I'd send a confirmation text the day before (since I'm assuming you'll do coffee earlier in the day) to make sure everything's still good to go. About an hour or two before the date, I'd send another text letting her know when I plan on leaving and to have her shoot me a text when she gets there or something equivalent. Note: I'm a little anal about confirmation text…
/r/seduction23/09/19 11:50 PM
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I tend to try and schedule the date asap when I meet a new girl. The longer you wait, the longer the chance for something else to come up. Along the same lines, I try to have sex with her quickly as well because she tends to stick around after you've had sex a few times. And tbh, I don't think there was a real texting issue. Some girls just aren't as interested or available as they seem to be in person (or online if you date there as well). So focus on putting in the numbers to offset this reali…
/r/seduction21/09/19 12:15 AM
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Instead of ...? just text her something like "let's do coffee at (insert time and place). If you still don't hear from her, move on. But it seems like you did things just fine. You have to emotionally prepare for this happening over and over again as part of getting good with girls. There's a variety of reasons why she's not responding, but trying to guess why is pointless. Just run your process (given that it's a solid one) over and over again until you find what you're looking for. No matter h…
/r/seduction20/09/19 12:10 AM
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It's okay to be nervous or scared, but when that fear inhibits action, then you have a problem.
/r/seduction18/09/19 05:47 PM
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Interact with them. You'll learn that they aren't as scary as you think. In fact, they're quite wonderful.
/r/seduction17/09/19 01:07 AM
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Start hitting on women and find out.
/r/seduction12/09/19 12:44 AM
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By being so busy creating the life of your dreams that you don't have the time to worry about who your main chicks are fucking.
/r/seduction09/09/19 03:18 AM
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False. Sure, money can help if you want to throw it around, but there's so many other things girls like about a guy outside of his money.
/r/seduction30/08/19 12:31 AM
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But i only like anal So you would pass on a super sexy girl asking you to fuck her (normally)? Come on dude. But I live with a girl that loves anal. They're out there, just put in the numbers to find them. Start slow (a finger while fucking) and work your way up. If she's absolutely not about it, just move on. Also, I've found just touching/playing around her ass is a turn on to me. Why don't you just fuck her while touching her asshole?
/r/seduction19/08/19 04:48 AM
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I feel I’m not the best at telling whether or not someone is into me This will come with experience, but you won't always know. If you're interested in a girl, just ask her out and let her tell you yes or no vs you guessing in your head if she's interested. Sometimes you'll be surprised at the girls that are into you. how do I transition the conversation I'm assuming you mean how do you ask a girl out? The transition will depend on the conversation (which you will gain with experience), but a co…
/r/seduction19/08/19 04:32 AM
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with a great Tinder profile (based on feedback) I don't get matches How are your pictures? And is tinder used often by the women in your area. It doesn't matter how good looking you are, if the girls aren't using it, you won't get matches. But to troubleshoot your problem, I can think of a few reasons why you're not as successful as you think you should be. Confidence. This is a blanket statement for making moves on women, how you interact with women, and if you're asking women back to your plac…
/r/seduction12/08/19 10:10 PM
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Part of "game" is being able to recognize which girls do and don't like you so you know where to put your time.
/r/seduction10/08/19 02:13 AM
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Lol make moves and enjoy yourself.
/r/seduction28/07/19 08:14 PM
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I had this same issue and I would look back onto my contacts and not know who the fuck these girls were, even if I put in a nickname to help me remember. So now, when I get a girl's number, I don't save it. I send something like "Hi (insert name), it's drdavidbanner20. How does Wednesday work for drinks?" I only save her number if she becomes a part of my life in either a casual or more serious relationship and I delete the text conversation if nothing comes of it. Note: this can be a bit tricki…
/r/seduction28/07/19 07:15 PM
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imo he has a great idea. Giving girls your number definitely will see which women actually want to get to know you and potentially date. In theory it's a great idea, but with more and more attractive women, you just can't afford to do this. Attractive women tend to have more guys pursuing her, so remembering to text some guy she met at the grocery store is unlikely to happen, even if she would have said yes to a date if you texted her first. If it works for your acquaintance, that's great, but f…
/r/seduction28/07/19 07:08 PM
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Great, great, excuse. There's nothing stopping you from going out by yourself except for your own thoughts/beliefs. Sure, it's not ideal, but if you want to get better, you have to take action. Instead of making excuses of why you can't do something, make reasons why you have to do something.
/r/seduction28/07/19 06:36 PM
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but can also backfire since most women don’t like the lead or do anything when the ball is in their court. Yep, especially in the early stages of dating. It's like you have to hand hold the woman through the whole process of meeting her, the first date, having sex, etc. It's only after that she starts to put more and more effort in.
/r/seduction28/07/19 06:32 PM
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I've found in college that whenever I gave out my number, the girl rarely texted me. So, I stopped doing that and instead grab the girl's number and make things happen myself.
/r/seduction28/07/19 06:30 PM
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A) that's your own self assessment. If you want a more objective answer, put a picture up and let us tell you how to improve B) you can improve past a 3.5. Off the top of my head, you can: dress better, get a better haircut, hit the gym and eat better, become more sociable, become more dominant, become more confident, etc. You have more leeway in terms of looks because women don't value it as highly as men do. You just have to get to "attractive enough" and then focus on your personality and hit…
/r/seduction28/07/19 06:26 PM
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Of course we do because you've had no (or little) positive experience with women. Anything that's said here will just sound outlandish to you because of your lack of experience. It's like a morbidly obese person trying to imagine him/herself as a fitness model. You have a lot of work to do before it seems possible what you hear here. With that being said, here's how I would attack this. Address your looks to the best of your ability. Get a haircut. Get in the gym (if you're overweight). Get a fe…
/r/seduction28/07/19 06:01 PM
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Me: So, what do you have going on tonight? Her: (Doesn't really matter what she says because I'm still going to pitch the invite). Me: You wanna come over for a bit?
/r/seduction25/07/19 12:01 AM
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Damn, that's awful. It was a false rape allegation? And I agree, being a fuckboy isn't a great idea. Having strictly sexual relationships with women is fine, but once you start lying/treating them like shit you're asking for trouble.
/r/seduction23/07/19 01:32 AM
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but I usually pepper in some flirt and intent before the date Interesting. I tend to keep it very neutral via messaging, and then do all that stuff on the date. But if it works for you, keep rocking it. Can't wait when you carry me home from the wedding <3 Lol I'd just play along with this. but in my experience I just scare them away with that. Yeah, I'd imagine the overtly sexual stuff would put off every girl except the ones looking for sex ASAP. Try being neutral while you message, but flirty…
/r/seduction23/07/19 12:55 AM
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Are you telling girls this stuff on the app? Because I wouldn't talk about any of this over app. Instead, get her out on a date. So my question is, should I just blow these women off No. Why would you do that? Get her on a date, and eventually try to have sex. Women are adults that can say no if they don't want to have sex. Let her be the one to reject the idea, not you. Note: Don't lie to women. If you don't want a serious relationship, don't say "I want a serious relationship." That's weak.
/r/seduction22/07/19 04:28 PM
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Nope. She can say she's looking for a relationship, but that doesn't mean she is. Women say a lot of things and turn around and do the complete opposite.
/r/seduction22/07/19 04:23 PM
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Personally I think it adds to today’s problems with accusations to men when we aren’t open with our intentions. And you think women are 100% open with their intentions? Come on. Look at any guy in the friend zone ("who knows, maybe one day we'll be together..."), any guy that's waiting for sex because his girl "only fucks on the fifth date" (even though she hooked up with a guy last weekend after knowing him for a half hour, but that doesn't count because it was her birthday), or the girl that "…
/r/seduction22/07/19 04:21 PM
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Shit, I have a tendency of doing that.
/r/seduction21/07/19 11:41 PM
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Good luck.
/r/seduction21/07/19 11:27 PM
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Good advice. A lot of guys just wing it but they don't have the experience to do this very successfully. Thinking about these things for a few minutes beforehand will do most guys a lot of good.
/r/seduction21/07/19 10:44 PM
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The same way you start any relationship. You go on a date (or a few dates) and have sex. Then you continue to have sex. The only difference is that instead of taking her on dates after you boink for the first time, you just have her over (or go to her place) to have sex. Then, you continue to just have sex with her while keeping your feelings in check so it doesn't develop into anything more (easier for some guys, much harder for others).
/r/seduction21/07/19 10:38 PM
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You start by sending her a message. Talk about something in her pictures or her bio.
/r/seduction21/07/19 10:29 PM
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fear of promiscuity comes from being insecure with my own sexuality Perhaps. I'm very comfortable with my sexuality and promiscuity doesn't bother me. You may be on to something. and became turned off of promiscuous girls when my last girlfriend dumped me, posted a bunch of slutty photos, and fucked my best friend I'm sorry to hear this, but remember, this was that one woman. Try not to let this experience make you bitter towards all women. Also, I'm not sure if I'd call that guy your best frien…
/r/seduction21/07/19 09:07 PM
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I am actually pretty familiar with the process of learning something new This is great because learning different skills is essentially the same process. You're a step ahead of someone who's never learned something (on their own) before. am dealing with other people that actually have a mind of their own and are able to judge you Most of the times they aren't judging you. And if they do, it's short lived. People have their own lives to worry about. It seems like there are a million ways of doing…
/r/seduction21/07/19 04:20 PM
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Start your night earlier then. Or hit on girls during the day when you have more energy. I don't think it's an energy thing, I think it's just you're tired at 3 or 4 in the morning. That's very normal because that's super late. But if you insist on staying up that late, why don't you sleep before you go out so you have a better chance of staying up through those late hours. Or you could fuel up on caffeine.
/r/seduction21/07/19 04:01 PM
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Just talk to her like you normally do. And then ask her out.
/r/seduction21/07/19 03:49 PM
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blabbing to you on the phone about how horny she was and how if she was there right now your cock would be in her mouth Girls say a lot of things. You should have asked her to come over/you go to her right then and there. You would have realized she was full of shit when she said she couldn't. Don't listen to what a girls says, listen to her actions. Lost cause or what? Ask her to hangout. If she doesn't, she's not interested and just wants attention. Don't give it to her. It's not worth your ti…
/r/seduction21/07/19 03:47 PM
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some of these girls just don’t talk at all. Yep, some of them are very quiet. But even with these girls, it should still be about 50/50. If she's the type to answer with one or two words, maybe she's not a girl you want to try and date anyways. Some girls might not be open to kissing on the first date for whatever reason and other times she might see you as a coward or pussy if you don’t do it I'm not real big into PDA. But if I'm still interested in a girl after the date, I'll ask her back to m…
/r/seduction21/07/19 01:32 AM
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Yeah, just quickly try to setup a date, and if she farts around, fade away.
/r/seduction21/07/19 01:24 AM
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I wouldn't say rude. Everyone has their own priorities in life.
/r/seduction20/07/19 08:59 PM
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"The actual approaching is no big deal" doesn't sound like a pain period to me. OP sounds like he'd rather just chill than go out and meet women. that's a hard fucking belief to change and get motivated to push through a pain period man People can't give me this excuse because I've been through it. The reason I put myself through the pain of being rejected by thousands of women is because my desire to be better with them and the pain of being bad with them was greater than the fear and pain of r…
/r/seduction20/07/19 04:43 PM
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Are you interested? If so, roll with the joke and ask her out. If she doesn't agree, terminate the conversation. If you're not interested, just don't respond.
/r/seduction20/07/19 06:20 AM
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I don't think desire to get better with women can be taught. You either want to do it, or you don't.
/r/seduction20/07/19 06:17 AM
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You must understand that you won't find success every time you hit on a girl. With that being said, after she declined your invite to hang that night, you should have asked for her number so you could grab drinks some other time instead of "coming back later that week and hoping you get lucky."
/r/seduction20/07/19 06:13 AM
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The short-term solution is to go for the lay on the first date. This is basically what I do and it works most of the time. Yeah, I agree with this. I've incorporated asking every girl back to my place after date one (given that she looks like her profile and doesn't ruin it throughout the date) and it's been very successful. Most girls agree.
/r/seduction20/07/19 05:45 AM
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I am usually outgoing and love making the girls laugh. The conversation typically is always flowing the entire date How much is she talking? It's great that she's laughing, but if you're talking too much, you're shooting yourself in the foot. 60% + of the time I get a kiss on the first date or makeout I wouldn't kiss her on the first date unless you're trying to have sex. My dates usually last pretty long like 3 hours if we're having fun What are you doing on the dates? I wouldn't do more than c…
/r/seduction20/07/19 03:29 AM
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But because of this I somehow end up with girls who tend to walk all over me. You get what you allow. If you allow a woman to boss you around, she will. Now, you don't have to get all "manly" and "put your foot down." What I tend to do if a girl does the bossy thing is tell her once (nicely) that I'm not going to do that. If she continues, I'll leave. Bossiness is a huge turn off to me. Also why does it seem that I always end up with these type of women? Perhaps it's their first impression of yo…
/r/seduction20/07/19 03:18 AM
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9 times out of 10, this is the response to have. You can either straight up ignore the guy and focus on the girl, or do what you did and acknowledge him, but not engage with him. Most people feel that they're being awkward and will shut down quickly. Sometimes, you have to address the situation. I'd do it swiftly but calmly. This is rarely called for though. You handled it well and got rewarded accordingly. Well done.
/r/seduction20/07/19 03:05 AM
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Lol I'd hope not. But if a girl says it's insulting, your tone probably needs work. Or she's teasing you back.
/r/seduction19/07/19 10:00 PM
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Yup. If you feel uncomfortable, she'll likely feel uncomfortable.
/r/seduction19/07/19 04:50 PM
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A good voice how? 😂
/r/seduction19/07/19 04:47 PM
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It's less to do with what you say and more to do with your intent and delivery. You can say a lot of stuff to women if there's warmth in your voice, a twinkle in your eye, and a smirk/smile on your face
/r/seduction19/07/19 04:39 PM
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I don't mean isolation. I mean ignoring "everything that's going on" and focusing on my immediate life, what I want from it, and what I enjoy from it. Note: I'm aware it's impossible to be 100% insulated, but 80-90% is possible, and that's what I'm going for. I have no interest in being a recluse 😂
/r/seduction19/07/19 03:08 PM
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Lol well then that would be trying to have sex. I'm talking about guys that don't make any moves/try to have sex and then wonder why they're not getting laid.
/r/seduction19/07/19 04:02 AM
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Absolutely. Women love your attention more than just about anything else you can give them. That's why it's massively important to eject as soon as you realize she's not down to play ball. She has no problem receiving your attention for... absolutely nothing in return from herself.
/r/seduction19/07/19 12:12 AM
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Lol try not to have sex with her all the way to the friendzone 😂 Emotions make a girls pussy wet dude... What's the point of making her pussy wet if you don't make a move and try to have sex with her? I think you're misconstruing what I mean here. I don't mean act like you're trying to have sex. I mean try to have sex. Notice the difference?
/r/seduction18/07/19 11:14 PM
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Im just speaking the truth that no one wants to hear. You're speaking your truth. Mine is very different: women are lovely. Yes, looks and cock size are important. But so is fitness, charisma, dominance, wealth, wit, humor, sexual prowess (different than cock size), style, power, status, etc. Work on the areas that you can because your current attitude will only result in very poor relationships with women.
/r/seduction18/07/19 09:10 PM
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Not trying to have sex. This one is hilarious to me. Guy: I don't get it. Why didn't I get laid? Me: Did you make a move and try to have sex? Guy: Um, no. Me: facepalm
/r/seduction18/07/19 09:05 PM
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I agree with your main argument of love yourself first. Great advice and I wish more men did this. 80%+ of the bullshit would immediately vanish. Now, let's talk about women. I do believe you can be happy without women. Just look at monks for this. But I also believe that women add happiness to your life. For me personally, life wouldn't be as vibrant without women. I'd still probably enjoy it without them, but not to the degree I could with them. Therefore, I need women. That's where abundance …
/r/seduction18/07/19 08:59 PM
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Are you going with one of them? Depending on the event size, you may not run into either one of them. But just be friendly when you see them. A hug, a smile, some light conversation, and then move on and enjoy the event (not sure what type of event this is).
/r/seduction18/07/19 02:03 PM
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Gotcha. I'd do it sooner rather than later. Strike while the iron's hot.
/r/seduction18/07/19 01:02 AM
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That's not ideal. But you guys will eventually have to hang at one another's place to date/have sex.
/r/seduction18/07/19 12:27 AM
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Your place.
/r/seduction17/07/19 11:39 PM
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I've become obsessed with finding a way to increase my testosterone/horniness so i can feel turned on like that in the presence of more girls. Here's a few things you can do to raise T or increase libido: Cut the sugar Lose body fat (be under 12-15%) Lift heavy weights (compound lifts) Eat wholesome foods Get enough sleep Have more sex Cut the alcohol (.5 g/kg or less) Masturbate 1x/week max (I prefer sex, and at a higher frequency than once a week) Edge instead of masturbate (no porn, either to…
/r/seduction17/07/19 09:23 PM
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If this is true, why the hell would any man stay?
/r/seduction17/07/19 02:22 PM
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It's not a magic pill, but it is a tool in your toolbox. A likely reason you've had positive interactions with women who you're insanely attracted to is that even if the interaction goes poorly, you're still getting shots of dopamine because of how hot she is (to you), so you still feel really good afterwards. One way that I know to keep that primal edge is to only allow yourself to get off via sex with women. This creates a feedback loop of either talk/hit on women, or be uncomfortably horny. N…
/r/seduction17/07/19 02:19 PM
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You can, but it will be harder with her friend and cousin there. You'd have to make them both like you (in addition to her liking you) for it to happen. It's possible, but the odds are stacked against you. I made a point of not doing group dates a while back because the ones I went on led nowhere, and I usually never heard from the girl again either. It was a waste of my time.
/r/seduction16/07/19 07:11 PM
2

Push the date up earlier if you can, otherwise just ask. If she says no, just go home and don't hang with them.
/r/seduction16/07/19 07:07 PM
2

Depends. If she means have a drink with them as the date, then no, don't do that. That's a group date and those should be avoided. If she means hangout with them after you guys have your date/have sex, then that's up to you. Personally, I'd do it like this: have the date (alone) and invite her back to your place after. If she says she wants to meetup with them, say you guys can after you head back to your place for a bit. If she still doesn't like that idea, just say something like "well, I'm go…
/r/seduction16/07/19 06:32 PM
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Sums it up better imo.
/r/seduction16/07/19 05:04 PM
2

It's exactly like any other skill. You learn, you act, you tweak things and get better. You wish there was a magic mindset now, but you'll be glad there isn't one once you put yourself through this process. It acts as a barrier to entry to beautiful women. When guys are gawking at a sexy girl or making excuses as to why they can't go and talk to her, you'll just walk up, start talking to her, and give yourself a chance to be with her.
/r/seduction16/07/19 04:38 PM
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Let me simplify this because it's too long and complicated. Connect with her on things she's interested in. Be warm/kind with your words, aggressive with your actions. Don't lie to women.
/r/seduction16/07/19 03:21 PM
3

You read the blog/book of a guy that has the type of dating life you desire and/or ask a buddy who has the dating life you want. Then you apply that knowledge until you get results. As you go along, you'll realize some things don't work for you, so drop them. You'll also have ideas of what might work. Try them out and see if they do. Here's it simplified: a solid process + putting in the numbers = dates/relationships. Obviously, you'll make this easier on yourself by being a high quality guy (fi…
/r/seduction16/07/19 03:03 PM
3

Would she fuck her brother? Has she fucked her ex? I think you get my point. Guys who are successful with girls don't settle for being a girl's friend. It's either they get together physically/romantically, or the guy goes and finds someone who will. He doesn't give girls who try and friendzone him his time nor his attention.
/r/seduction16/07/19 01:42 AM
1

Lol my first thought was why would you setup a date with a 6 😂
/r/seduction14/07/19 09:01 PM
1

Nope, just invite her over. It's already been long enough. but if he escalates and she's not ready it might be over from there. And he won't know until he tries. Idk about you, but I go for sex quickly as a screening tool to test sexual compatibility.
/r/seduction14/07/19 02:27 PM
3

She seems a bit childish, but go ahead and schedule the next date at your place and have sex with her already.
/r/seduction14/07/19 10:34 AM
2

Very true. I'm surprised she hasn't moved on yet.
/r/seduction14/07/19 10:31 AM
1

My guess is it will be mainly men. But like the other commentor said, go find out.
/r/seduction14/07/19 01:53 AM
1

I'd text. I only really call girls I've been seeing for awhile.
/r/seduction13/07/19 11:19 PM
1

Then I would of course still be very friendly and nice to her when you hang together via your social circle, but I would a) flirt with other women and b) decline her invites to cuddle.
/r/seduction13/07/19 10:33 PM
6

Does she just want the attention? She's been doing this a lot more lately, like she wants me in bed but doesn't want any more. Yes. She's getting what she wants. But why are you spending time with a woman who doesn't give you what you want. That's time away from other women who want to have sex with you. If I were you, I'd drop this girl and move on.
/r/seduction13/07/19 11:05 AM
1

Do you have a booty?
/r/seduction13/07/19 02:03 AM
1

If you think she's down, just ask her over. The point of a date is to make her comfortable/attracted enough to want to have sex. If she's already at that point, a date would just be wasting time. You can always pitch the date if she says no to coming over though.
/r/seduction12/07/19 10:56 PM
1

😂😂
/r/seduction12/07/19 09:38 PM
2

Excuses. I'm not big by any means, but that doesn't mean you can't gain muscle. It seems you're inexperienced, which means if you workout 5x a week for the next year, you'll put on 80-90% of your muscle potential (it's amazing how much muscle you gain as a newbie). Lifting/working out should be a part of every man's daily (weekday) routine. It's paramount for T production, physique, and energy levels. Just fucking do it.
/r/seduction12/07/19 04:01 AM
3

Lol a threesome between a man, woman, and shemale 😉
/r/seduction12/07/19 03:40 AM
2

Everyone has their own pace, some chicks could get freaked out if you ask them out so fast These are likely the same chicks that wouldn't have gone out with you even if you messaged them 50 times and "built comfort." A girl is either on tinder to meet, or not. I'm not interested in girls that are there just to message or girls that just want my attention or girls that have already found a guy. I screen these girls out by pitching the date quickly, and I suggest you do the same. The key is to rea…
/r/seduction11/07/19 11:51 PM
1

You're messaging too much. You should have already asked her out by now.
/r/seduction10/07/19 09:21 PM
2

Given that you're not exaggerating your qualities, there's 0 reason why you shouldn't be getting laid right now. Are you not talking to women?
/r/seduction07/07/19 11:09 PM
1

Your pictures are 80% of your success on tinder, so it's probably the best thing you could have done outside of actually swiping.
/r/seduction07/07/19 04:51 AM
2

You got it. Dating looks insurmountable when you're first starting out. You have no idea what to do or how to do it. But with anything, starting is the hardest part. As long as you're taking an action a day (obviously more speeds up the process) to improve your dating life, it's impossible not to get better. Consistency is key.
/r/seduction07/07/19 12:51 AM
7

Working your way up is a solid way to go. Off the top of my head, do x number of the things below and then go to the next step. Say hi Say hi + compliment Say hi + introduction + small talk Say hi + introduction + small talk + ask if single/ask out Also, I'd get online and try to setup some dates. Small talk a girl for a few messages (something from her bio or pictures) and then ask her out. Aim for a first date of coffee or drinks (depends on the drinking age) because they're cheap, easy, and l…
/r/seduction06/07/19 08:28 PM
2

You left it open with "if not, when?" I'd push for tomorrow, but I'd take Wednesday if tomorrow doesn't work. Move on if she cancels again.
/r/seduction05/07/19 03:31 AM
1

Winky face.
/r/seduction04/07/19 11:50 PM
1

Massive waste of time. OP, find a girl that lives closer. There's plenty of them out there.
/r/seduction04/07/19 05:30 PM
0

Lol you'd still be in the friendzone because you're hanging out with a girl you're interested in and not getting anything in return. If she's so incredible that she would benefit your life as a purely platonic friend, go for it. But by doing so you limit your ability to be with her in the future (because now she sees you as a friend). Imo, it's not a great use of your time because it's just easier to find the same quality of girl who is interested and available.
/r/seduction03/07/19 10:47 PM
6

Why would you want to date a woman that lives 2 hours away?
/r/seduction03/07/19 10:35 PM
1

I mean his ex-girlfriend and his wife weren't that good looking either. But I bet it was just the whole buildup of it. Admittedly, I don't know much about his case outside of what I've seen on Netflix. I speak to 100s of people at work every week. But how many have you asked out? There's a huge difference between talking to someone and talking to someone with the intent of asking them out. Maybe I'm lacking "drive" Lol maybe. What's your reasons for talking to girls? And are you serious about ma…
/r/seduction02/07/19 11:39 PM
2

You really think the girls would have been charmed by him had they known he was a psycho and wanted to kill them? Of course not, so it's not that. I'd say the reason he did so well with women is because his overwhelming desire was to kill. So, in order to fulfill that desire, he had to talk to women (aka he had to approach). He confessed to 30 homicides, but that number could be in the hundreds. So that's potentially 100's of "successful approaches" (I cringed typing that but I have no other wor…
/r/seduction02/07/19 09:37 PM
2

I wouldn't call this needy, but a) I wouldn't have suggested a date so late and b) I would have worked with her a little bit more to make it happen.
/r/seduction02/07/19 03:38 AM
3

First date coffee and then back to my place 😉 Coffee!
/r/seduction02/07/19 03:31 AM
2

It sure is. Go through the dating process with every girl you're interested in. She'll stop you if she's not interested back. Then you'll know for certain she doesn't like you. Note: I feel too many guys think a girl's not interested/not going to be interested, so they never even try. My advice is to try and let her be the one to tell you she's not interested, not you.
/r/seduction01/07/19 11:19 PM
3

You're overthinking this by about 1000% (that's a rough estimate). She's already agreed to a date. What more do you need? Do you think she sounds nonchalant because she had plans over the weekend? Or because she said she didn't care where you went? Either way, it doesn't sound nonchalant to me. She a) has plans over the weekend she wants to schedule around and b) doesn't care where you go so she's fine with you picking the spot since you asked her out.
/r/seduction01/07/19 11:01 PM
5

Coffee or ice cream/froyo or juice/smoothie.
/r/seduction01/07/19 10:14 PM
6

Skip the compliment for now and just ask them out.
/r/seduction01/07/19 03:16 AM
7

I don't want to come off as disrespectful, my parents always told me told to respect women. I guarantee you're not coming off like this (you sound too nice). But showing interest in a woman isn't disrespectful. From what I've read, you're approaching women but not asking them out on dates because you think they're not interested. You don't know enough yet (no offense) to tell if she's interested or not. So ask every girl you approach out. You never know who will say yes until you ask.
/r/seduction01/07/19 03:00 AM
1

Aren't good for you in which ways? Either you need to learn what your type is interested in and lean more into that, or you subconsciously believe you don't deserve this type and your actions show it. But man I've been so lonely and horny lol, it's tough. Why don't you bring on one of these girls that "isn't good for you" in a fwb type of situation so you're not as desperate (makes meeting other women much easier).
/r/seduction01/07/19 02:52 AM
1

Ah. Yeah, I still wouldn't message her that much. But I'd set a reminder in my calendar for when she'll be in the neighboring country and hit her up when she's there.
/r/seduction01/07/19 02:35 AM
1

That wouldn't bother me. Obviously I didn't hear her tone because it seems like it made you angry.
/r/seduction01/07/19 02:33 AM
1

I generally wouldn't keep in contact with anyone all that much if she moved to a different country. What's the point?
/r/seduction01/07/19 01:43 AM
1

I also tend not to try seduce the "gorgeous" ones, even if I know I can. This is a mistake because a) why wouldn't you want the more attractive woman? and b) many other guys think the same thing so it's likely she's not getting approached as much as you'd think. It's the same thing that's happening to you vs your slightly less attractive friend. The key is to be able to deal with rejection. Yep. And the only way to get good at taking rejection is to take a lot of it.
/r/seduction30/06/19 08:44 PM
1

Let me ask you this: who's harder for you to approach. The girl who is kind of cute, or the gorgeous woman? It's the same with women. It's harder (if you haven't made it a habit) to approach more attractive people because the social risk is higher (it's usually more likely you'll be rejected and the rejection of a very attractive person stings more than a less attractive person). I wouldn't sit back and wait for girls to approach you though. Be proactive, learn to overcome this fear, and make th…
/r/seduction30/06/19 08:18 PM
1

First off, nice job on the other areas. Doing well in other areas of life gives you something to focus on when you hit a rough patch in your dating life. Also, there's a lot of crossover between success in one field and success in another. Now, you're just going to have to focus on your woman life to improve in it. I'd start slow if it's that hard to get yourself to talk to chicks. Just say "hi" to a girl, and nothing more. This will convince your brain you're not going to hit on chicks, so it w…
/r/seduction30/06/19 05:54 PM
1

Lol no.
/r/seduction30/06/19 04:33 PM
10

Mark Mason said to be honest and I completely agree with him. Yeah, don't lie to women. Lying is lame. What do you think? Is it better to be straight honest or is it better to say things in a hidden way? Be straight forward with your actions, but a little ambiguous with your words. Meaning, you should be moving things forward confidently towards sex, but your words can be flirty and vague and a little unclear. This makes things exciting.
/r/seduction30/06/19 02:40 PM
2

This works both ways. She needs to bring value to your life if she wants a relationship with you.
/r/seduction30/06/19 02:24 PM
2

Exactly XD.
/r/seduction30/06/19 02:22 PM
1

I admittedly don't know a whole lot about Autism, so I'm sure others could answer this question for you more specifically. But to me, great conversation entails two people connecting with one another while hearing and being heard. Meaning, it's one thing for people to say words to one another. It's another for them to actually hear what each other is saying, and understand where they're coming from. And it's a completely other thing to hear, be heard, and feel connected with someone. That's the …
/r/seduction30/06/19 02:21 PM
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Great conversation, great sex, connecting with a woman on many levels, being a positive, masculine influence in her life, believing in her and her dreams, helping her when you can, having fun and making lasting memories.
/r/seduction30/06/19 01:04 AM
2

Seems like a solid place to start.
/r/seduction29/06/19 10:39 PM
2

Or she's sick. Just reschedule for next week. If again she finds a reason to bail, then you can assume she's probably not interested. Give yourself a chance though.
/r/seduction29/06/19 10:22 PM
2

I’m thinking that I should just stop talking to her You should have, at least until you're healed up from the break up. After that, it's perfectly fine to remain friends. It sounds like you're still in the healing process. It takes time to get completely over someone. I'd focus on your goals and other women to get your mind off of the pain. Eventually, you will be completely over her.
/r/seduction29/06/19 10:15 PM
1

My recommendation is to improve your skills so all women are easier to fuck.
/r/seduction29/06/19 06:52 PM
0

So you're saying smart women (whatever your definition of that is) don't have sex? That's insane. And plain wrong.
/r/seduction29/06/19 05:27 AM
3

Lol not much. I talk to them both the same.
/r/seduction29/06/19 04:43 AM
1

I also live close to a major university and I've been with an assortment of women, from ditzy to women in grad school. There's no correlation.
/r/seduction29/06/19 04:41 AM
1

Mine were all awesome, so I just smile and say they were enjoyable but we split amicably and then change the subject.
/r/seduction29/06/19 03:13 AM
1

How many women do you sleep with a year?
/r/seduction29/06/19 03:09 AM
1

False 😂
/r/seduction29/06/19 03:07 AM
2

Instead, I took it slow and tried to gain her trust and show her I wasn't there just for sex This is your mistake, you treat really beautiful women differently than cute girls. You must treat all women the same (well) while leading them towards sex. The only difference is how long you persist. BUT, you should have a cut off for when you realize it's a lost cause. Since you said you do well with women and are pretty confident, you should be having sex on dates 1-3. If you can't close things out b…
/r/seduction29/06/19 02:36 AM
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Do you still like women? Do you still want to have sex? Do you still want fulfilling relationships with women? Can you still get hard? If you answered yes to any of these questions, then no, it's not too late to start. On average, men live to be 76 years old. That means you're expected to live 44 more years. You have plenty of time to learn this skill and be able to enjoy the skill. But start today. There's no sense in waiting any longer.
/r/seduction28/06/19 11:11 PM
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Mid twenties. Midwest. Plenty ;). I do dating apps, but I swipe until I run out of likes or until I run out of people.
/r/seduction26/06/19 08:47 PM
2

Very true. I used to work as a bartender at a hotel bar and there are plenty of options, and several of them are looking to hookup (because they're just visiting).
/r/seduction25/06/19 03:56 AM
4

Almost all the older women I've been with I've met at a bar.
/r/seduction25/06/19 03:53 AM
2

I do mainly online dating, so the first date is the first time meeting her. With that being said, I treat her the same I treat any girl: we talk about her life, past relationships, sex, and we touch. At the end of the date, I'll invite her back to my place and she'll say yes or no. She usually says yes. Tbh, I'd ask one of your friends to watch you and see what's different between how you approach and how they approach. Or watch how they talk to women. It's much better to learn first hand from s…
/r/seduction24/06/19 02:00 PM
1

Yep. OP, since you're good looking, a lot of older women will be flattered. But don't treat her any different than you would a girl your age.
/r/seduction24/06/19 01:06 AM
1

What's your sticking point? If you're good looking, consider online. Otherwise, you're going to have to start talking to women again and setting up dates. You just gotta put in the numbers to find what you're looking for.
/r/seduction24/06/19 12:55 AM
1

Lol my comment was to u/TangoZulu, not you. You're assuming things about me (second time you've done it). Maybe you should realize not all women agree with you, perhaps not even most. Women agreeing with me has nothing to do with results. I get results IRL, and that's where I give advice from. And I never said its 'women's fault' that men are bad at expressing themselves Neither did I. Yet you're looking to blame men instead of trying to understand our differences I am a man. And men need to tak…
/r/seduction23/06/19 08:56 PM
1

Correct. Men should take advice on how to get women/relationships from other men who can get women/relationships.
/r/seduction23/06/19 04:56 PM
1

What part do you disagree with because it's not clear? But men are also terrible at expressing themselves and can easily come off as ingenuine even when they're not. That's not a woman's fault, it's the man's fault. Dont try to be something you're not' is poor, because you're basically saying people should just remain what they are like and not even try to change themselves. What? I didn't say this. And I don't believe that. Your reply has very little (if anything) to do with my comment.
/r/seduction23/06/19 04:54 PM
0

I would ask yourself what you want your dating life to look like. If it's similar to Mark's dating life, then consume his free dating articles first, apply them, and then purchase his other dating materials if the first bit worked for you (and you want more in depth material).
/r/seduction23/06/19 03:34 AM
1

Make a battle plan and execute.
/r/seduction23/06/19 03:24 AM
4

The majority of women will see through it. Lol this. What most guys don't realize is that women, on average, are vastly superior to guys in terms of social awareness. So, when a guy puffs up his chest and acts tough or goes the opposite way and confesses undying devotion to her, she knows he's just doing it to get in her pants. But a guy that comes up to her, exudes warmth, and is actually interested in her, woah, that's a different story. Even if she's not attracted/available, she can still res…
/r/seduction23/06/19 03:22 AM
2

I always get girls responding to me like oh so how many times have you told a girl that line. You just gotta be a little warmer/nicer and connect with her more. Or I bet you are talking to a lot of other girls. Be playful. "Only like...9? ;)" A girl I like actually messaged me so how many girls have you fucked you whore Again, be playful. "Just your mom this week ;)" If girls are calling you too much of a player, it likely has more to do with how you're coming off vs your actual looks. I had thi…
/r/seduction17/06/19 11:25 PM
0

XD
/r/seduction17/06/19 11:10 PM
0

Start with Tinder, Hinge, and Bumble. Upload pictures. Write a succinct bio. Swipe. Go on date. Ask her back to your place. Have sex. Continue to hang and have sex with her.
/r/seduction17/06/19 11:10 PM
2

I would have definitely given it a shot (if she were attractive enough). Women will say things they want/don't want but it's often different than real life.
/r/seduction17/06/19 11:04 PM
1

I would pitch a different date idea (coffee or drinks) and ask her when she's free. If she won't commit to a time/place, it's probably not going to happen and I would move on.
/r/seduction17/06/19 10:48 PM
1

Ask him out.
/r/seduction17/06/19 10:37 PM
2

It means the pencil slipped out of her grip and tumbled to the floor. If you think she's interested, just go talk to her. You'll find out much quicker that way then dissecting her actions on Reddit.
/r/seduction17/06/19 10:18 PM
1

Then plan it and make it happen (although I would do coffee or drinks for a first date, but to each their own).
/r/seduction17/06/19 09:37 PM
1

What did she say to the movie suggestion?
/r/seduction17/06/19 09:21 PM
1

Try a few times (2-3 times total), and if she says no or gives you more of these non-answers, just leave it be. Note: If she's not agreeing to a date via fb, she probably wouldn't have agreed to one had you asked via text. Don't beat yourself up too much, but I'd definitely grab a number instead of her social in the future.
/r/seduction17/06/19 09:14 PM
1

If you can approach them, then asking them out should be easy. Just say "let's grab a drink/coffee sometime." If they are interested, grab their number and pin down the date.
/r/seduction17/06/19 09:11 PM
1

Depends on the girl, but I would definitely choose Aladdin over Pikachu unless she grew up playing Pokemon.
/r/seduction17/06/19 08:09 PM
4

now i see her like 4 days a week The more often you see a woman, the quicker she becomes bored of sex. I would slowly reduce the frequency of seeing her and get back to once a week. Ex: See her 3x this week, 2x next week, and 1x the week after that. Note: She's probably not going to take this well, especially at first. I would suggest you start hanging out with your friends/working more/working on a side project/hobby so you have a legit excuse as to why you're not seeing her as much. In the fut…
/r/seduction17/06/19 08:07 PM
1

Aye oh! 👊
/r/seduction14/06/19 05:43 AM
3

I'm under 6' and I've been with women taller than me. I feel height is like looks; it's great until you start talking. If you suck with talking to chicks, your height won't help. If you're great, it's just a cherry on top. Note: I've had some of the shorter chicks I've been with tell me that they prefer my height because it's not too tall. If you're worried about your height, go after shorter chicks.
/r/seduction14/06/19 05:33 AM
1

Get tested if you have symptoms, but otherwise you're probably fine. I get tested quarterly, but that's pretty frequent. I'd suggest after every girl you sleep with (if you sleep with one girl at a time and you see these women for many months to years on end), or a couple of times a year. STI testing frequency depends on what kind of sexual life you lead. The more sex (with many partners) you have, the more often you should get tested.
/r/seduction14/06/19 02:22 AM
1

My balls thank you. Not necessarily, they're just girls I find attractive. A lot of them were from the "people you may know" section.
/r/seduction11/06/19 11:34 PM
1

I figure it's a low percentage shot either way, so I made it known from the get-go what I was there for. I should run a little experiment. I should try 100 direct "are you single" messages, and 100 messages similar to what I'd do on dating apps (I do well on those) and track the results.
/r/seduction11/06/19 11:00 PM
1

I've done it once with facebook. I wrote "are you single?" She said she was, so I asked "are you looking?" I can't remember what she said, but then I asked her to coffee. She said yes. I tried this a bit but noticed most girls won't answer (my question at least, not sure if there's a more successful way of doing this, but I'm sure there is), others will answer but aren't single, and some just aren't interested in me.
/r/seduction11/06/19 09:50 PM
1

She either is legitimately busy, or she wanted you to make a move and you didn't.
/r/seduction10/06/19 10:13 PM
1

Give examples of what she's said. For me, I just ask girls out on dates and either get a "yes" or (insert anything that's not a yes). I'll try a few times (unless I get a "no") and then I'll move on. I don't have time for games and neither should you.
/r/seduction10/06/19 09:17 PM
4

Ask for a date or approach more women or fix your approach. Tough to give advice with the little amount of info given.
/r/seduction10/06/19 05:25 PM
1

Prioritising serious relationships is just doesn't make sense nowadays I disagree with you, but that's because I enjoy an emotional connection with a special woman. If that's not your thing, then yeah, it doesn't make much sense (since you can have all the sex you want with other chicks who don't require a commitment). but because they have casual sex with other guys and not interested in them even if they offer commitment, lol. Lol this is very true. I tell these guys that they seriously need t…
/r/seduction08/06/19 10:19 PM
1

Shit, you're right XD
/r/seduction08/06/19 10:06 PM
1

In the field it isn't luck, it's real, it's the game. And what happens when you get a girl on a first date with you? That's right, "it's the game." Dating apps don't get you laid. They get you dates. Your "game" has to seal the deal. Ones basically fiction. Lol all the guys succeeding on dating apps would disagree with you. There's nothing fictional about a woman meeting up for drinks and then coming home with you to have some passionate sex.
/r/seduction08/06/19 10:05 PM
25

No style of "game" works 100%. It will always be a numbers game. You'll have to face many rejections before you find a girl that's interested.
/r/seduction08/06/19 12:18 AM
2

Exactly. Plus I can go through a much larger population of women than I could out and about. If the numbers are going to be the same (in terms of percentage of women I get), why wouldn't I take 5 minutes to go through 50 women instead of taking 4-5 hours to go through the same amount IRL. It's so much more time efficient. Note: I think the best way to approach dating is to do every applicable type of "game." Ex: Do online dating and approach that sexy girl while you get coffee and approach that …
/r/seduction08/06/19 12:17 AM
2

Edit: sit there and wait and look pretty.
/r/seduction08/06/19 12:12 AM
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Well then that goes to the case of how MEN need to set standards for themselves I couldn't agree with you more. If all men stopped giving women attention who were boring/bitches/unfit/socially retarded, women would change real fucking quick. On the same note, if women stopped having sex with men who didn't commit to them, there would be a hell of a lot more serious relationships and less casual sex. But, we know these things will never happen because the only way some people can compete is by gi…
/r/seduction08/06/19 12:10 AM
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