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You're not being civil to me, frankly. You're treating me like I'm some kind of stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 10:24 PM
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Again: you can stop ED-splaining to me annnnnnnytime. I know what orthorexia is. If Coat were down bad, she would have a post history that reflected it, and she just. Doesn't. Sorry, but you're showing your whole ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 09:42 PM
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No shit? But you don't have to eat everything without any restrictions to be healthy, either? It's almost like we developed science around nutrition and some people follow it?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 09:28 PM
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Duh, I was eating-disordered, you don't have to ED-splain to me
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 09:04 PM
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You can refrain from judging her based on her diet. Call me when she's talking about refusing everything on her plate, not just one kind of food.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 08:53 PM
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You don't have to be eating disordered to order a little self-control with your fries, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 09:57 PM
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Or, hear me out, you're all delusional about your looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 12:40 PM
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Look, I don't care, at the end of the day, what anyone but I think of my body -- even a prospective partner has the right to say "No, actually, your body doesn't do it for me." I like my body. If no-one else does, piss on 'em.
/r/ExRedPill18/07/25 04:55 PM
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Nope! You don't need to be body-positive, either!
/r/ExRedPill18/07/25 03:55 PM
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Now you're telling me what I care about, too? Honey.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 11:18 AM
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Don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 11:29 AM
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Don't know, I'm not one of those women. Average guys get plenty from me. I don't speak for all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 01:59 AM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 01:28 PM
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Stop telling women our own experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 12:20 AM
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Welp, I don't date conventionally attractive trad men, they're repulsive. So idk what else to tell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 01:46 PM
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Yup, you're convinced of the truthiness of your lie that the actual truth of my life doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 01:46 PM
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I'm not most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 01:45 PM
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please, I just ate
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 12:02 AM
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I said major. Like... the kind that comes from eating too much, not the kind that comes from a bit of sagging skin in your fifties/sixties.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 10:59 PM
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Eh, idgaf about jawlines unless you've got major jowls. A lot of men obsess over their jawlines to the point of crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 10:48 PM
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KING
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 10:46 PM
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Him too
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 10:18 PM
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That's generally considered rude?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 10:17 PM
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based
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 10:14 PM
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That format... wait for it... is stupid. No wonder people fail so hard on the apps. You can't fucking talk with each other without both swiping right.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 10:14 PM
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In no way.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 10:10 PM
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He's cuter without the beard
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 10:10 PM
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Can they at least keep their beards shorter than some Viking?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 10:00 PM
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Goddamn, if that's really you, Chad's in the house
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 09:59 PM
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I don't get to send first messages if I swipe right. I get to wait for them to Notice Me, Sensei
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 09:58 PM
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It's like... eight out of ten dudes on the apps!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 09:58 PM
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I think it was Eulen who said that men in her community are surprised when women want to date someone who is not just prettier than a gorilla...? That's true of a LOT of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 09:54 PM
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Q4M: Why do you all have beards nowadays, even the ones with good chins underneath?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 09:46 PM
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Bumble was a woman-centric app started by a woman CEO Yeah, was, those days are over
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 09:36 PM
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When we find a compelling enough reason to do so. Running errands, going to events that matter, seeing local friends (many of us have long-distance friendships), work, sometimes church, and oh yes going on dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 09:05 PM
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Being a trad woman would suck so much for me that the tradeoff wouldn't be worth it. Better alone in that case.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 03:21 PM
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Woman makes point contrary to yours? Has to be a lie, you couldn't be wrong or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 03:19 PM
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That's not a loaded question or anything. It's not a question at all, in fact. It's assvice disguised as a question.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 01:44 AM
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Men have their own bullshit, but I like them. It comes with the territory. Dating people means you take the good with the bad. No, you don't have to like it. But if you're "constantly toning [yourself] down" because otherwise the person you're dating is insufferable, make yourselves both happier and date other people! :)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 12:11 AM
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People who call it "female bullshit" probably should stick to ONS? If you don't like women, don't have relationships with us.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 11:36 PM
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This sub has a penchant for ignoring the very real middle ground: the guy who isn't a jerk or a simp and looks good enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 11:34 PM
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Given the work she had done in the runup to becoming Mrs Bezos, I'm thinking she's absolutely male-centered. What woman wants to look like that for herself?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 11:31 PM
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This is why I like being bi :)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 11:30 PM
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Men will uplift male centered women online just to push their idiotic worldview, then ignore the same woman irl in favor of some lib if she's better looking. Consider: they pick the lib because they think she's easier. Be a lib who doesn't drop her panties and they call you nasty things all the same. So there's no reward for being a woman, period.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 11:22 PM
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Actually? Mid.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 10:40 PM
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Metaphor for missionary work. :) But if I weren't a Christian, sus.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 09:48 PM
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I don't date missionaries, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 09:46 PM
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That he's a crazy fucking cultist
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 09:45 PM
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Yup, and that's why the dude who fishes is a left swipe for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 09:39 PM
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"Follow me and I will make you fishers of women" what these bros probably heard
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 09:38 PM
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I don't fish, I don't want to be a fishing widow, I don't like seeing my meat before it's been processed. It's pretty simple. Fishing enthusiasts just are not my guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 09:36 PM
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Unusually dim women's minds, perhaps. Women with two brain cells to rub together have figured out that if he will cheat with us, he will cheat on us.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 03:46 PM
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I think your friends' complaint is the more likely scenario. I see a ring, I back right the fuck off. It's a big red NOT FOR ME flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 03:44 PM
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Then cope with nothing. You don't need it. You just want it. You evidently want it more than you want a relationship with your partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 04:49 AM
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Women in their prime(up to their late 20's) who are in relationships where they genuinely desire the man they're with, are always aroused No. I remember being in my prime. I was not always aroused in my relationship with my partner. Even when I wanted to be. I desired him, I loved him, I damn well didn't settle for him -- but I was not always aroused the way he was, and in time that led to, yes, duty sex. Because I felt like I could not say no without consequences. And I came to resent him, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 04:47 AM
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If I had to guess, it's because she doesn't need his resources, so they're no reward for duty sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 04:44 AM
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omfg, or he can be an adult and deal with his blue balls by having a wank
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 04:36 AM
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Yeah, not having kids is also not the entirety of my standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 02:09 AM
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Don't read too much into it. I'm not exactly pining away. Anyway, men who want kids are a dead loss to me, because I don't. Waste of a man, but what can I do about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 01:38 AM
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I called average every-American stupid, regardless of gender. Misanthropy, not misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 01:37 AM
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I think you have to account for average people being average levels of intelligent -- so, in the US, lowkey stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 01:00 AM
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I respect the hell out of both of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 12:54 AM
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It's our superpower :)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 12:50 AM
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My dad was married to a millionaire before my mum. No shit, there he was, wed to the daughter of a Greek shipping magnate. Living the high life. But she was a terrible wife, and cheated on him, and he noped out in favour of my mum, who was brought up in post-WWII poverty.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 12:49 AM
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Vomit up my last week of meals, right on his shoes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 12:47 AM
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Really? My Insta is full of cats.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 12:47 AM
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So, I'm old enough to know how stupid Veblen goods are. But I'm also old enough to know that being cheap for the sake of it (or for the sake of dying rich and never really living) is joyless. The partner I want buys things that are quality enough. Brands don't matter if the item is good. I would not partner with a cheap jerk. Or a hobosexual. But if they're doing all right, they're just not flaunting it, then they're right in line with my own value system. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 12:46 AM
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Yup, that's just humanity for you. People are seldom purely one sort or another; we pick and choose our values depending on the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 12:31 AM
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idk what to tell you if you think the presence of a wife and kids makes a man Chad, all I can tell you is that if you seriously view a married/childed man as Chad, then your standards are loooooooow
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 12:17 AM
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lol no, but thanks for playing
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 11:18 PM
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Did you not read all of what I posted? You missed everything about women's role in the textile guilds. Go back and do your damn homework.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 06:10 PM
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They're not exceptions for their part of history, though. You can't discount women's real and true careers and aspirations thereto with a simple "oh, exceptions". They weren't exceptions. If you were to look at naming patterns in those regions, you would see that the women were even known by their professions. Professional women have existed literally since the Middle Ages, and you may be disappointed to hear it, but... it is so.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 04:46 PM
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Here, learn something cool: https://theconversation.com/the-fragility-of-womens-rights-how-female-guilds-wielded-power-long-ago-73265 [edit] And extra shit about women's reality pre-America: http://dankoboldt.com/female-professions-medieval-europe/
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 03:34 AM
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I don't vet men for hookups because tbh, hookups with men are not appealing. I vet for relationships by evaluating how compatible our lives and values are, and whether I want to kiss this person stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 02:49 AM
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The leopards might literally eat your face if we return to the way things were. Can you outrun a pissed-off predator?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 02:46 AM
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It's like you missed the entire 1700s
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 02:42 AM
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Crack a history book
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 02:41 AM
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If not for the debate around God's gender, you might have a shred of a point here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 02:38 AM
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Exactly where are you getting this idea?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 02:36 AM
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Advice from women, mainly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 02:32 AM
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That's a big fuckin' ask when it comes to my dad, the champeen of being broken by life
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 01:04 AM
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Hohoho, spoken like someone who will never be the chief caregiver to a child from birth forward! My mother gained the baby weight and between work and childcare never had time to lose, although she's never been more than a 16 (and this is US sizing, mind) and at her current 14, is wearing the weight beautifully in her bust and hips. She has a waist, she just refuses to highlight it by tucking in her damn shirts.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 12:08 AM
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I think it might be. The secret to the secret: never having children, I guess. Most US women have reproduced by 39.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 11:51 PM
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This is the entire secret of my success: I am 39 and still a size 6.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 10:39 PM
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Way better looking without the beard, holy crap!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 10:38 PM
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Nope, she mogs him
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 10:37 PM
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Ugly is as ugly does. Like, for instance, men making baseless assumptions about women they don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 10:04 PM
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"Identity politics". Well, shit, you could have just come out and said "I'm right-wing scum" several comments ago, no need for all this posturing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 09:31 PM
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Your assertion about me is grounded in red pill fallacies. Sorry to disappoint. Not sorry to disappoint the "handsome" Trump supporter, though (they all become ugly as soon as I learn that about them).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 09:30 PM
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The real numbers on this will never be known, but also nuns likely did not take lovers in vast numbers, so... there's celibacy in a population less likely to be driven by testosterone to make lust-driven decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 07:59 PM
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I live in an area where the conservatives definitely outnumber the liberals -- blue city, one or two blue 'burbs, most of the county is red. Also, himbo, you don't need to explain to me that I can just date girls without needing a reason for it. Thanks for assuming I have all the wit of a three-year-old.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 07:58 PM
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I'm not fucking deflecting. As a queer woman who knows a goddamn thing or two about having to navigate the intersection of biology and reality, I want to know how much credence you deserve in this discussion. If the answer is "I'm cishet" then idk why this even is a thing to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 07:47 PM
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I'm sorry. Hold up for a moment. Exactly where do you fall on the Kinsey to be lecturing anyone about queer dynamics?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 06:21 PM
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Do they somehow think the childless cat ladies wouldn't be with decent partners if we could? Say I'm propositioned by two equally attractive men, all else being great about them, but one voted for the shambling trash pile that calls himself POTUS and the other is a sane, progressive man. I know which one I'd fuck. The right doesn't want me to be happy as a woman alone, it wants me to buy the idea that I should fuck conservatives. So no, I'm not doing what they want. I'm not going for their idea …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 06:20 PM
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Because the substance of your comment is a steaming pile of crap, words have colloquial meanings and context, and I pity the trans woman who has to date a man who insists he's gay because he's dating her.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 06:15 PM
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you're the one putting sex above gender, here, that is classic trans exclusion, the TE in "TERF".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 06:07 PM
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idk, smells like TERF spirit to me, but you go, girl, you show those penis-toutin' women that their partners must be gay
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 06:02 PM
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Okay, reading further than the definition: "Gilligan observed that measuring moral development by Kohlberg's stages of moral development found boys to be more morally mature than girls, and this result held for adults as well (although when education is controlled for there are no gender differences)." So... Gilligan wrote In A Different Voice in 1982. The book is older than I am, and I'm pushing forty. I would be interested to see how things have changed since then, because Kohlberg makes sense…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 04:35 PM
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Flaming no. A man attracted to a woman is straight regardless of what's in her undies.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 03:52 PM
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Hey, volcels are awesome. :) I genuinely wish you luck. And yeah, don't look on Reddit for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 03:51 PM
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Men aren’t necessarily morally superior, but they are more morally developed. Bro, how?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 03:49 PM
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But that's not what right-wingers want. The right does not want more childless cat ladies, and it definitely does not want us to have standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 03:46 PM
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You can opt out.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 03:39 PM
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When you bring the word hypergamy on the table they will object and say it doesn’t exist, but if you say women will date a man at least on their level minimum they will nod along. That's not hypergamy. on contrary women will agree the same ideas coming from an attractive man even internalize and defend them against you. Those are called pickmes, and the most they'll be picked for is what's between their legs.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 03:36 PM
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When discussing relationships, sure. When determining whether it makes you gay, straight, or something in between, different importance.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 03:30 PM
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But you're good with that happening. You are declaring your support for the Grand Army of the Unfucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 03:01 AM
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Okay. Now that we're talking in more human terms, this is making sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 02:44 AM
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This is something I consider with every purchase I make. Shop my own home first, shop secondhand next, shop ethical third, shop dirty only where the options are all equally shitty to fill the need.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 02:26 AM
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The way you put your arguments was so repellent that it took you boiling them down to brass tacks -- which I actually agree with -- in order to make them sound sensible. That said, I'm very specifically not inclined to fuck men before trust and feelings. Women don't put the same conditions on women that men do in order for mutual respect and love to exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 02:17 AM
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I choose not to treat another human being as a consumable. That's my line in the sand. The US government agrees with me that this is wrong and has chosen to treat it as criminal. I suggest other ways of treating a human as a consumable should also be made criminal. Perfectly logical to me, since market pressure never changed a damn thing under capitalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 02:14 AM
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I'm a little too horrified to contemplate what you think I should be arguing about. You can devalue a human being that deeply -- do you not stop to consider it? Ever?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 02:00 AM
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God help you. Sincerely and truly, I hope God helps you see that human beings are not cars.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 01:57 AM
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"Choice". Used to justify every pro-patriarchy decision a woman makes. Women have autonomy. Some of them fuck it up and make bad choices. Like putting their vaginas on the market like some sort of commodity. Chh. Literal slavery is right up there with rape on the list of Big Fuckin' Evils. Fair wages would be bloody nice, but also that's not on the individual to solve, that's on the governments of the countries that either enslave or all but enslave their workers. Including, in certain places, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 01:52 AM
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You can say the quiet part out loud, 'phobe
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 01:40 AM
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You see nothing wrong with reducing people to their genitals? That's... not how I do trans allyship, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 01:38 AM
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The theft of your labour is not as intimate a violation as rape. Until people accept this sad reality, they'll keep making comparisons between factory workers and trafficked women. All while, of course, arguing that because some women find prostitution is empowering, it should be accessible to... hmmm, which gender buys sex more often...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 01:35 AM
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Wow, so even sex isn't enough. You're going to get a ton of girls with this attitude. just like you arent being lovable right now [clutches chest] gee, you showed me! Let me get down on my knees and fellate you while somehow simultaneously praising you to high Heaven, debasing myself utterly in the fruitless pursuit of your priceless... sorry, no, can't keep the bit going, laughing too hard
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 01:31 AM
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Only gooners in the building.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 01:29 AM
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It is generally accepted by thinking human beings that death by exposure is a thing. Death by celibacy is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 01:28 AM
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I don't believe there is such a thing as a safe enough, regulated enough space for prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 01:07 AM
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First of all, gaslighting has a meaning and it is not... whatever the hell you think I did. Second, so noted. A woman is not worthy of your love until she has sex with you. You are incapable of seeing her as anything but a nuisance until she does the magic trick. Well, we all get what's coming to us in the end, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 01:06 AM
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Yeah, I'm still on the part where a woman is only lovable after sex? Did you just word that badly? Or can a woman genuinely not expect to be loved for anything but opening her g-d legs?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 11:22 PM
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Actually, given that people tend to die in horrible ways without it, I'd suggest health care is indeed a need and should therefore be a human right.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 11:20 PM
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Society could adapt to a different form of child-rearing. The species has done so since the beginning of its existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 11:19 PM
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Extended families cooperating to raise children and/or beat loneliness are fine. The nuclear family is what we're used to, but it wasn't always that way. Time was we lived more collectively and thrived on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 11:18 PM
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Neither of those things are rights for men, either. No gender is entitled to power.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 11:16 PM
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Oh, we're at the point in the debate where you're dangling a safe and sane society over our heads as something the Grand Army of the Unfucked will take away if we don't capitulate. Christ's sake, are you actually Hamas in disguise? No, no, Hamas has something resembling a legitimate cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 11:15 PM
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Reproduction is only a need if you believe the species needs to continue... and I don't :D
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 11:13 PM
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It literally is not, or legions of monks and priests would all have dropped dead of celibacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 11:11 PM
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Bro, if you showed up on my doorstep on a frozen fucking night, I would let you sleep on my couch. Shelter would indeed be a need for you at that point, and so I would feel myself obliged to meet it. In the morning we could find you a different situation. But I would pay more taxes if that tax money ensured that a situation for you could be found. No-one should go unhoused in a developed nation. Also, call me crazy, but I think the US government should be obliged to provide reliable public trans…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 11:10 PM
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they’ll still become severely malnourished without other forms of nutrition and suffer a severe decrease in their overall quality of life If the malnutrition would kill them, guess what: a more diverse diet is a need.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 11:07 PM
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Yes! And stop having sex with him, and go find a better life. With or without a man in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 11:06 PM
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You could also twist it to mean that women lose nothing if they have sex with these men. Just those men's respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 11:04 PM
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Housing isn't a need. Yeah being stuck outside during nights can have a bunch of problems along with it, but the lack of a house won't be what kills you. Maybe the cold or a malicious person, but not simply being homeless. Live where I do, you'll be singing a different song round about October.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 11:03 PM
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Hi, hello, can we come back to this reality in which dehydration will kill you but nobody ever died of blue balls?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 11:03 PM
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Or we can turn to toys and each other for comfort. At the end of the day, no pizza beats terrible pizza.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 11:02 PM
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I will starve to death without food. I will freeze or die of heatstroke without shelter and appropriate clothing. I went eleven years without partnered sex of any kind and I actually grew and flourished. I know which ones I place on par with each other and which one I don't perceive as a need.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 11:00 PM
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Not if bad actors are hiding people who've been trafficked in plain sight among the people who (supposedly) want to provide it in exchange for payment or bartered services. The safety of the most vulnerable should be what concerns us, yet here we are, chiming in with "Don't forget legal whoring!"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 10:58 PM
1

So love is conditional on sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 10:57 PM
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That's not quite the same as demanding love and sex from a non-consenting human. Bots don't have or need rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 10:56 PM
1

Show me on the doll.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 10:50 PM
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Who deems you average if not the people you're trying to attract? Think about it: if men swear up and down that This Is The Average Guy, but all the "average guys" out there find themselves striking out with women, could it not possibly be that they have overestimated their looks a touch?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 07:51 PM
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I always want to slap the asker upside the head and say "You just did, next time come straight out with it." But I wasn't born in a goddamn barn, so I resist the urge.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 07:33 PM
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You couldn't be more right!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 07:29 PM
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You know? There's a reason I'm more sex-positive about my queer relationships than my straight-passing ones. The people who devalue my body for the number of partners I've had have been, by and large, male. Now, why would I want to go to bed with someone who sees me as less-than because I did it? So... I'm not as open to sex with men. Because in the end, a lot of their motivations seem to boil down to getting what they can from me, then turning around to sneer at me at best. Whereas with a woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 03:15 PM
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It wasn't for me when I was in my early twenties! Then as now, I cared very much that he could support himself and showed some signs of intelligence. I aimed older because men my age by and large weren't that guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 01:19 PM
2

Thank God for that, fifteen is a bit young
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 01:15 PM
9

wait, he's advocating for men in their 30s (his direct competition) to go after women his own age? Okay!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 01:12 PM
1

In Soviet Russia, kid has you at 74
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 12:59 PM
2

Hey, men may prefer to have their own kids with a woman, but considering what keeps swiping right on me, they expect avowed childfree women to fall all over their single dad asses. How are the single dads foisting their offspring onto me any different from the single mums who have the nerve to want to date men without children, many of whom are a "not yet" as opposed to an absolute no the way I am?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 06:13 PM
2

It would, but some people are invested in being edgelords.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 06:10 PM
2

Just don't be shocked when the leopards eat your faces.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 12:37 PM
9

So you braid spikes into your hair, duh
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 05:55 PM
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They prefer you buzzed to nothing? Women are horrible. Okay, some women are horrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 05:55 PM
1

Wow. Replacement theory. That's not straight out of the White supremacist playbook or anything. You do realise that White supremacists use what you just said to target you for violence and even worse? Please develop a sense of self-preservation
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 02:46 PM
1

Good for them. I'm not obliged to approve.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 02:42 PM
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I see plenty of men who would be great IF they didn't have wives and children and animals to which I am allergic. IF they weren't dead-set on travel. IF they weren't fat or bald, or nearly bald (why do you all wear your hair so short?). I've been on dates with the ones I could find who were eligible. Having simply not sparked with them, I've concluded that maybe what I'm craving isn't to be found in a man, and that's fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 02:39 AM
1

This was well-said. Thank you for the education.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 02:21 AM
1

Do I sense someone using the language of the left in insincere ways designed for mockery? Also hmmm
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 09:57 PM
1

The victim of an immigrant family? Get over yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 09:15 PM
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Well, that's too fecking bad. If you can't stay faithful, you need to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 07:51 PM
1

Yes. Refer to previous comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 07:51 PM
2

Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 06:21 PM
2

My family goes wherever they please with no repercussions back home. Don't know who's preying on your family, but mine has never experienced what you are talking about. My aunt has, however, been grateful for the immigrants who were willing to do the same thankless work alongside her (caring for the elderly).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 06:21 PM
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My mother has a green card, you absolute nit. She has the right to come back in. As did one of the Germans detained at the US border. You have no concept of what it's like to be part of an immigrant family, nor any compassion. I pray that you don't have to gain that compassion the hard way.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 06:17 PM
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Just go read the archives, then. Or get a divorce if you're that unhappy. Really, at this point, your behavior is so foul toward your husband that I feel deeply sorry for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 05:32 PM
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All you need to do is look at their treatment of non-citizens. Yes, even the ones who are allowed to be here. I'm sorry, but a world in which they might detain a 68-year-old woman based on the contents of her phone (those contents being anything less than praise of Trump) is fash enough for me. Incidentally, this is also why my mother can't just go see her sister. They might not let her back in.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 05:31 PM
2

Uh. The point is to ask for advice rebuilding your marriage so you will stop cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 05:27 PM
0

Sex is so much more than a service. Some of us treat the intimate parts of our bodies as more than a plumber's tools.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 05:14 PM
2

You could sub in "developing country" and the sentiments would still parse.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 05:12 PM
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Unlike Americans, Germans no longer cave to fascist bastards. We learned from our mistakes. Nie wieder is nie wieder, and we seem pretty determined to keep it that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 04:49 PM
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"Hair of the dog" actually makes sense to me because you're weaning from the alcohol you had last night. A little more alcohol makes the crash suck less.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 04:45 PM
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The fat, slovenly, smelly person. Short and ugly and well-groomed is still following certain social rules (be neat, don't stink).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 04:41 PM
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His companionship? His love? And parenthood doesn't end when your child goes to kindergarten.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 04:35 PM
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Marriage is a nice institution to have if you want the legal rights and economic privileges that come with being married to your partner. If those legal rights and economic privileges are irrelevant to you, naturally you won't seek them. I am personally on the fence about the whole thing. I am also not looking for a man to supply stability. Just to be stable in himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 04:33 PM
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Tennis players are hotter than quarterbacks. Also, fewer of their brain cells have been sacrificed to their sport.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 04:31 PM
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The AfD are just Diet Nazis. We have a problem with that, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 04:23 PM
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We actually have cultural things in common, and he's intelligent enough to keep up. That's rare in my world.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 01:54 PM
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That was how the people themselves described where they lived. I use the nomenclature people use to describe themselves, because I don't get to define them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 01:53 PM
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Places for parents to make their children's lives better, for a fraction of what it might have cost them. Safe places. Opportunities to have a voice in a system that too often screws everyone who participates.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 05:59 AM
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...full-service gas stations are still a thing where you live? I'm not even sure where to find one in my county.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 03:44 AM
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idk, people from literal third-world countries look at the kind of poverty many Americans experience and go "well, shit, at least I don't live there".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 03:43 AM
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Kate Spade designed fucking handbags. That's so far below designing things of actual societal worth it's ludicrous.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 03:41 AM
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Whether it's dating, social dynamics, or even career opportunities, women often have a head start due to the simple fact that they’re desired and catered to more than men are. Unfortunately, OP is making noises that sound an awful lot like "men have it worse".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 03:38 AM
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I never thought I'd say this, but... you should go to RedPillWomen for tips on how to rescue your marriage. Women can change themselves to inspire men to want them more, and those women know a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 02:30 AM
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This would make a compelling novel.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 02:28 AM
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None taken! Turns out I'm quite stereotypical in Japan, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 11:27 PM
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Thank you! He's going to get the full-on "I exfoliated and shaved and lotioned for you" treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 10:47 PM
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Okay. Acknowledging that you do a lot of the physical work: we do a lot of the emotional work, and hold a lot of the jobs that require certain skills that many of you disdain. You may also say we're incompetent at white- and pink-collar work, and sure, some are. I have also known men who were incompetent at the blue-collar work that is so vital.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 10:45 PM
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My mother, no lie, has expressed interest in roadworks. Like... if she were thirty years younger, she would probably say "Screw it, what's the best-paying manual labour I can find?" and go do that. She's 72 and retired now, but I think if someone posted an ad for a sign holder at a worksite, she would go do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 10:41 PM
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Mmh. No, I tend to go for anime about contemporary life and reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 07:28 PM
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Can confirm. The worst human beings in my high school were the unpopular-by-choice alt kids, who definitely bullied anyone who didn't fit their narrow definition of what was cool. The actual popular kids, by about age fourteen-fifteen, outgrew that mindset and had lots of friends for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 07:22 PM
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I definitely got funnier as I aged! It comes with giving less of a fuck about your image. Also, I think I'm a man, because noodling about hypotheticals can be such fun with the right person. And I love history over pottery/dance/art/crochet if we're talking clubs.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 07:20 PM
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Facts. I am having such the best time flirting with a man in the runup to seeing him Saturday night -- he's got a golden, gorgeous mind. And he sure as heck doesn't think I'm boring :D
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 07:18 PM
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For the right anime, dramas, and games, I would be fine!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 05:52 PM
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Whoops, line breaks
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 05:12 PM
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SECOND/THIRD
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 03:26 AM
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I would be downright ashamed to post that. Please tell me it's satire.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 03:16 AM
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The consent/exploitation is the key for me. The erotic nature of the content is fine, although beware of getting too hooked on porn to appreciate reality, or thinking that porn sex must be emulated in reality (it is fantasy, nobody is supposed to be reenacting scenes from The Lady and The Laird in their own homes, either).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 01:49 AM
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So be sweet and kind to mother now and then, have a chat Buy her candy or some flowers or a brand new hat But maybe you had better let it go at that Or you may find yourself with a quite complex complex And you may end up like Oedipus I'd rather marry a duck-billed platypus Than end up like old Oedipus Rex
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 01:43 AM
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I piss on Fifty Shades pretty hard, actually. It has the gall to be a shitty representation of kink and be terribly-written.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 01:00 AM
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I've seen a lot of men resentful of women's romance reading habits and equating it to live-action porn. To me, that comparison is ludicrous because no actual human beings were exploited in the writing of the smut, but whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 12:58 AM
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We might as well not define terms if we don't feel like adhering to the standards others have set. smh
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 08:52 PM
0

Do you not understand why the great queens of history are in fact great? Boudicca, Catherine, both Elizabeths?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 07:26 PM
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So you're just lazy?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 06:19 PM
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Rejection sucks if you get overly invested before you approach. The reality of it is that most people are not worth getting seriously butthurt over -- especially if you know that in the end, you are the only person you can guarantee you'll have, and are ready to be happy in yourself. Maybe I'm just cut from sturdier cloth than a lot of women, idk. But it's honestly not that much of a bummer when a guy rejects me. I still have my health, my family, and my job. Priorities.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 06:14 PM
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Approaching isn't painful. Let's not catastrophise here. If you approach and you're turned down, a mature person will shrug and say "Well, I tried!" and move on. There are no pressures on us to let men approach. Do you know who seems to shame women for approaching? Female dating coaches. The women who listen to them. That crowd. The crowd that makes us all look like fragile spoilt princesses. Do you want to be a fragile spoilt princess, or do you want to be a queen?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 06:00 PM
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Yes, actually. I'm a dual national.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 02:03 PM
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That was driven by more factors than just "men butthurt". Please do not claim to understand the nuances when you weren't here living through it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 12:43 PM
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Nope, you can be single all you like and I don't mind :) You're still people, you still deserve social support, etc. Don't settle for a life that will not make you happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 12:39 PM
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Found the other pragmatist in the room :D
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 02:04 AM
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I personally will not screw a conservative, especially on immigration, considering. You know. The immigrant in my household. Also, tax the rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 11:28 PM
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Oh. My. God. Well, Taylor doesn't need anyone to be the brains of her operation, I guess... but damn, he's gotta be good in bed if she can put up with how fucking boring he must be everywhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 10:20 PM
2

wait what now
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 07:30 PM
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I know I don't conform as well as a tradcon would like, or for that matter a lot of people here, even some of the blue pillers. Never had it in my household growing up, don't miss it. If I have to choose, make it model 1, but with a dash of model 2 to allow for certain inherent differences in anatomy/hormone makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 07:26 PM
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This is why, if they're really about decentering, people will naturally cycle out, into groups that are more about their own experiences and less about their experiences of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 06:28 PM
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You're actually wrong about this, at least in my case. When I briefly went 4B, in order to reexamine my life, I was 37 and having lots of luck dating... just not the kind of luck I wanted. I wasn't too ugly or too old to get a date. I had my head on wrong and didn't know what to do with what I was getting. I spent a year and change off the market (late 2023-early 2025). I turned 38. I turned, gasp, 39. I cut my hair. I grew my hair. I no longer subscribe to any particular philosophy around datin…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 06:27 PM
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Knowing you didn't mean it as a criticism makes it suck less to hear, so thank you. And yeah, I know that in the early days of a relationship, being stuck with only dating Thursday, Friday, and Saturday nights (and Friday afternoons and weekend days, of course) makes me less than perfect by a long shot. But the same job allows me to come home at a decent hour, unwind with a partner, and be an actual delight to live with. Also, I get allllll the holidays. My total time off throughout the year wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 06:10 PM
1

For once, I'm glad I live in the US
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 06:00 PM
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My mother had me in the middle of her degree. Worked out for her just fine, tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 05:26 PM
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If it runs in the family, it runs in the family. I can trace a direct line from my grandfather to my aunt/uncle/mum (yeah, all three got hit in their own way) to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 04:58 PM
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The people who are looking for relationships on there tend to be damaged in some way that they don't have better options I have a job that keeps me from hitting the local social scene, not to mention I live a long way from said social scene and I'm a homebody. I love my friends, but none of them know anyone for me to date. I'd rather not pay a matchmaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 04:55 PM
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Well, there's your problem. Hot girls trend liberal. I don't make the rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 04:51 PM
1

It is oddly freeing not to give a shit anymore. Reaching peak don't-give-a-shit is like nirvana.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 04:03 PM
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What do you think she really wants?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 01:39 PM
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Well, it ought not to be years down the line. Ideally he's even-keeled and emotionally mature from the word go. Maybe guys just chill out by the time they hit 40-45, which is what I'm dating now. IDK. The ones who are severely unchill tend to stick out more.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 01:23 PM
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Women saying "Well, of course it's normal to be attracted to your partner" are automatically ruling out men they find unattractive, no? Therefore the problem lies here. He may actually be too weird-looking to date for her. We have to want to go to bed with them in order for a relationship to work -- at some point in the relationship! The bar isn't in hell. We all just think different things are hot. You find out while you're dating (and hopefully making out) whether the rest of him is truly what…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 01:21 PM
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From recent personal experience: going to France every month and being six feet tall says nothing about emotional maturity. She's an idiot if she thinks that it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 01:05 PM
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5) He may not be Hot (or Ugly!), but he clearly takes care of his hygeine, grooms, dresses well, and is in decent shape, etc. Everyone knows, but no-one is saying, that it's this one. Come on.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 12:59 PM
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Honey, these men are in bed with other men
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 12:44 PM
0

Ah, yeah. That kinda tracks.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 11:29 AM
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I like work. Even if I retired tomorrow because I won the lottery, I'd pick up a side hustle. This is not an alternative. This is the life.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 02:45 AM
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Short version: I remembered the red flags that made me run like hell the first time
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 02:42 AM
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[patpat] Bitches get theirs in the end
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 01:34 AM
2

Within 10! Record for me anyhow
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 01:27 AM
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Are you dating Hitler? I hear he's only got one ball
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 05:40 PM
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But we can kick that can down the road while he's in grad school. Then we'll see what settles out. With him, I'm not afraid of that. Past Flora, you absolutely are afraid of that, because he's moving from mildew and ghosts to just mildew, and no room for you in his hole in the wall bachelor flat. Also, no. visible. income. So how's he supporting himself?! Woman, get a GRIP, let him GO, you are not his MOTHER
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 05:39 PM
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I need a do-over on, oh, the last 48 hours
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 01:25 AM
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Don't be disingenuous about this. You know precisely what I mean when I'm talking about lying to get what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 08:04 PM
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I believe liars lie, and that tricksters trick, and that it's the liar/trickster's fault. Nobody, man, woman, or otherwise, is immune.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 06:28 PM
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It's simpler than you know to lie to get what you want. If you don't do it, I'm proud of you. I have met men who have done that. It's as easy as not telling the whole truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 06:26 PM
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Which is why I don't want a rich man or a built one. Those lifestyles are headaches for the women who love men like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 06:19 PM
2

Oh. No, that part is absolute bullshit. No-one can "sense" bad vibes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 06:13 PM
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Empathy and intuition aren't clairvoyance, and yes, some men are exceptional actors when it comes to getting what they want (a woman on the hook indefinitely).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 06:12 PM
3

Same to you, bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 03:39 AM
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It does. Perfect sense. Which is why, when a viewpoint is just too fucking ridiculous for words, I'll call it out. There are actually a number of reasonable RP men on here. No reason not to engage with them in good faith. If they start flinging shit at me because I'm female, then I disengage, but they get the chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 03:36 AM
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Are you literate in English?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 03:28 AM
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I'd say yes. I think it's fine for a woman not to espouse (x, y, z) supposedly feminist belief, and better for her to think for herself when she makes her decisions. I'm not a radfem, I'm not a choice feminist. If I advocate for anything, it's a careful, contemplative feminism that doesn't go to extremes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 02:59 AM
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I get into pissing contests with other feminists on here because I'm impatient with their takes on things. I don't know if I'm the norm or the outlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 02:49 AM
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The failure of what now to either be used or be used properly usually leads to abortion? Come now. Expand your context or get left behind, there's a love.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 02:24 AM
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Acknowledged. FWIW I'm trying to hold women to a higher standard than a lot of feminists do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 02:17 AM
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I think I'm a regular, sexually liberated woman. I neither chase cock nor abstain for moral reasons. I have had three sexual partners in my lifetime, two in the context of a relationship, one in the "will this become a relationship?" stage (to which the answer has turned out to be "yes, dumbass, he's a keeper"). I think sexual liberation is a freedom from the imposition of anyone else's morality on your own. In that respect, it's not tied to feminism for me. Sexual liberation is its own force to…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 02:10 AM
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Abstinence-only sex education is the thing that most of us pro-choice feminists decry, because it fails in a tragic way to educate people about their birth control options. For people who are uneducated about birth control, abstinence is the best method. But that education should be standard for every teenager in the country, because God only knows that hormones will override your ability to calculate risks properly every time. Teenagers are more or less guaranteed to bump uglies, so not teachin…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 01:48 AM
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You can only control your own actions. If you aren't both using birth control (a hormonal form for her, condoms for him) then don't have sex: you can't guarantee that the other person's birth control is solid. But you can guarantee that yours is.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 01:45 AM
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Take a third option: feminists who aren't some form of extreme. Men who have adapted to the choice feminist's desire to exercise her sexual choices? Cool, if he's willing to treat women like human beings worth respecting for doing it. Men who try not to offend? Frankly, the choice feminists should back the fuck off, because these are the men who are doing their best not to hurt us. Am I bothered by men who gin up victimhood narratives? Yes. However, are a good chunk of men's complaints valid bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 01:20 AM
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In retrospect: yes, because the men themselves on some level weren't right enough on a fundamental level. Not the stupid 6-6-6, but I had some superficial things that I thought could make up for not fundamentally getting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 01:16 AM
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I think I've found the person I would not actually betray for a fortune, and a life of ease for my family, because thinking about doing so makes me completely sick to my stomach. No-one gets me like he does. I don't think about all the checklisty things that get talked about here on PPD. I just think: isn't it exciting to have a best friend and a lover in one person? But also that we may need to find a larger place if we ever move in together, between his books, my books, and my wardrobe. To say…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 12:52 AM
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HOW
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 02:56 AM
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Chopin probably slew in his day.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 02:23 AM
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I'm not body-positive. So... yes. It is so much to ask for.
/r/ExRedPill29/06/25 02:06 AM
1

Wait, why wouldn't you want to talk about fashion and go to girly mimosa brunch with someone you love?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 12:24 AM
1

Beats me. I'd love this vibe.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 12:07 AM
0

Oh, you think it's that simple. No. It's not. Sorry. I honestly operate on vibes, once the basic requirement of "want to snog him stupid" and "isn't a fascist" have been met.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 04:14 AM
3

I quit 4B when I realised that in fact they would not
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 01:29 AM
1

Too bad. Don't text him. Be a woman instead of a girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 01:26 AM
-1

Based in misogyny
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 01:23 AM
1

"I can't make my already reduced $700 rent, so I'm on welfare. Oh, yeah, my art means more to me than covering my expenses. Hey, where are you going? You paid for that Italian soda -- well, if you don't want to finish it, I will!"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 01:22 AM
1

You don't know for certain whether a GSW will turn out to be fatal or maiming, or just a nothingburger. Even a shot to the hand carries the risk of infection and a long recovery time. Not justified.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 01:15 AM
2

Ironically, the phrase "me too" applies here
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 12:59 AM
8

He was trying to get away from her and she would not stop, effectively, sexually assaulting him? It was self-defence, and she can piss off into the night.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 12:58 AM
2

I know a tad bit about domestic abuse, given how often I deal with survivors in my line of work, and oh yes I am one myself. So... actually, they tend to be hard to spot, because they're very good at making themselves palatable enough to gain control of their victim. Very, very good. So good that some victims don't realise how cooked they are until the abuser has swept away all of their support and means of escape.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 12:47 AM
2

I could roll with that
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 09:30 PM
2

Yup! Put two equivalent men side by side -- the liberal is getting some.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 07:58 PM
2

I... have money too? Where are you getting the notion that women don't have money to pay workmen?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 06:23 PM
1

Username checks out.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 06:14 PM
4

That's not necessarily happiness qua happiness. Even at my happiest, my brain makes the wrong proportion of chemicals.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 05:22 PM
1

Wait, Cjay is a woman? I always thought they were male O.O
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 05:19 PM
25

You're off by a few years there. The germ of the 1950s ideal hits when we develop a robust middle class due to industrialisation along with the Victorian "angel in the home" idea. Pairing off is older than that (see the "leave and cleave" concept in the Bible) but families don't seem to nucleate quite as solidly until, say, 1830-1850. Even then, many families remain extended for various reasons. Now, if we're talking purely "the norm was to marry and have children", you're off by a value of cent…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 05:18 PM
2

Do you know how hard it is to prove cheating or beating?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 04:01 PM
2

Then it's your job to save humanity, if you want it saved. You don't get to dictate my value system. Them's the breaks. Free thought, it's a right bastard.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 03:53 PM
1

You presume I don't already approach, but sure, I'd keep approaching. But how do I know he's the one? Do I get some kind of glowing bat signal that I should stop here?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 03:51 PM
2

Fault being harder to prove, couples were stuck together. So no shit more couples are splitting under no-fault conditions. Now stop gooning to the idea of loveless marriages being dragged out ad infinitum.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 03:50 PM
2

I'm fine with humanity's number being up, actually. If that's where all this is headed, I will give in gracefully.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 03:43 PM
2

We're humans, we're wired to buck biology and think on a higher level than that. It's part of why I find evo psych so irritating. Reducing us to animals ignores millennia of us being more than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 03:07 PM
0

Enjoy the decline, as they say. What with climate change, humanity hasn't got long anyhow.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 02:13 AM
3

Yes. For real and for true, if you don't want to do the chasing, don't chase.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 02:03 AM
1

Women with unreasonable expectations of life. Gen Z is an abject failure when it comes to having a spine.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 01:36 AM
1

I know, right? Like... I'm short as fuck and I cope fine?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 12:58 AM
3

Define feminine presenting. Big fat hairy dude in a dress and bad makeup and grown out hair but he's still balding? noooooope Twink serving fishy realness? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 12:56 AM
1

I've been on RPW multiple times as a participant. I remember for awhile there was this influx of pink pilled girlies that everyone had confused for being red pill and I was like... I may not know much but I know it's not that?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 12:50 AM
1

I can be petty, but I try to forgive rather than seek revenge [taps cross around neck]
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 12:48 AM
1

Gave 18% fewer shits than yesterday. Life's better that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 12:47 AM
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I mean, men used to be able to approach before MeToo took on a life of its own. Being approached used to be a positive thing, even. So... let's maybe go back to the 90s?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 12:42 AM
1

Yup, that explains it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 12:40 AM
1

I've tried finding left-leaning Christians, the majority of them are married by the age of thirty so I sure hope you're younger than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 12:03 AM
3

Normalize just... marrying a person without a goddamn checklist
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 09:53 PM
1

Gun or knife?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 09:02 PM
2

No shit, in high school our bags suddenly had no fewer than 3-4 textbooks in them at a time because the damn school was too spread apart to be able to make it to lockers and then class. I ruined my back by the time I was 18 because I couldn't afford a knapsack that was rated for carrying fucking masonry.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 09:01 PM
2

I imagine men would approach women as normal human beings and not as a buyer of goods. Men would literally be approaching women as buyers of goods -- but legally. I don't want my government sanctioning the sexual use of another person in this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 08:52 PM
1

There is such a monster as choice feminism, but it's best practiced only if you're in the habit of considering your choices in contexts like "is this choice beneficial to a woman when she makes it, or is it more beneficial to someone who is exploiting that woman?" (e.g. in the case of sex work).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 07:41 PM
6

See, I think it's bloody stupid not to approach someone you're interested in. If they come across your screen on an app, swipe right. Say hi. Regardless of your gender. Job, schmob, don't ask, don't get!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 06:18 PM
1

...is this sarcasm
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 05:54 PM
11

Or, and I know this is radical, we can just normalize anyone approaching anyone. You're proposing that basically no-one proposes, or else we just swap the genders of the current broken system.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 05:53 PM
3

Your subject line and the text are proposing two different things. Subtle difference, but it's there. You're not positing that because men are thirsty, women have power at all. You're positing that because women choose, women have power. So... which did you actually mean to articulate?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 05:51 PM
1

You were shaming, too. "So damned entitled" etc? I'm sorry, how is that not an attempt at "social violence" (please, I'm begging you, put on your big boy britches and realise how cringe this concept is)? I returned what I got. I'm grateful to them. What I don't do is fall all over myself to fawn over them in Reddit posts. I'm not going to make grand gestures to appease one butthurt Redditor. Not sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 05:48 PM
2

Consider the slash an "and", then, or me a radical egalitarian.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 03:20 PM
2

Never let it be said I left my life unexamined: I went and took a good hard look at what you linked. I don't think it was put together thoughtlessly. I do think it doesn't say what you were implying that it said, and so I can hold to "the patriarchy absolutely hurts men, too" and not run afoul of what has been written. I do think Rose et al are, perhaps, more ardent/radical than I am; I tend to the egalitarian end of things. Equitarian? I know equality is a crock; equality would be all of us get…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 03:10 PM
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Believing that men and women are different doesn't make you anti-feminist in my book. Likewise, there are sex-work-positive feminists. I think the word missing from this debate is equity: everyone having equal access to what they need to be fulfilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 02:11 PM
1

It's not childish to decide who your sources of authority are on any given topic. It's discernment. And no sane feminist thinks that something mist be relevant to men before it matters, but we surely know that men are also victims of their own philosophies.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 02:00 PM
1

Those political issues boil down to equal rights. That's what I'm trying to say here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 01:57 PM
1

Pro-choice means equal rights to our own bodies. So actually, no, debate not over.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 01:45 PM
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Then you will reap exactly what you've sown, and you should know at this point that it's just attention-seeking behavior, all of it. Which is a poor look on anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 01:44 PM
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Well, if that's what you want to believe you are, you can. No-one will hold your feet to the fire. But for the record, believing men deserve equal rights as well as women doesn't make anyone anti-feminist by default, and fuck the female supremacists.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 01:43 PM
1

Rose ain't my boss. Rose doesn't get to define feminism for me. Rose is no-one to me. I came up reading second-wavers, all right? She's nowhere in the literature I read.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 01:42 PM
1

Your mother would be ashamed to see you speaking like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 01:41 PM
1

As long as you believe women shouldn't have the right to evacuate a fetus from her uterus, you don't believe women should have agency. You're literally saying "welp, for nine months, that's not her body anymore, it belongs to the bundle of cells".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 01:40 PM
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This is horse puckey. Rose damn well didn't consult me when she wrote the "rules". I'm a feminist, too, and I think it's absolutely valid to say that the patriarchy hurts everyone and everything it touches. It enforces gender roles that are toxic to men and women. What is Rose smoking/drinking, please?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 01:36 PM
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You said nothing that addressed Rozenheg's actual point. None of this: For instance, I am a far-right radical libertarian. I'm pro-life. I don't think traditional gender roles should be forced, but they exist for a reason (they utilize men and women's natural skills and inclinations, respectively). I think prostitution and other sex work should be fully legalized, and I don't think they necessarily exploit women. I think the gender pay gap is the natural result of women voluntarily choosing less…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 01:32 PM
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You're not an anti-feminist. Who told you that?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 01:28 PM
3

To ourselves and to other people, probably yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 01:26 PM
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You need to cut him off. Completely. He's bad for your marriage. If you want to stay married, you will lose this guy's number.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 01:25 PM
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I was looking for his answer. He is actually one of the reasonable men on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 12:02 AM
1

Actually... it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 10:45 PM
2

the wings are a makeup technique "wings" are not a cutesy way of saying "crow's feet", that's already the accepted euphemism for "wrinkles at the corners of your eyes"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 10:44 PM
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ChatGPT saying "Why am I being considered a valid source? I make shit up" is kind of amazing here
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 10:42 PM
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There's a middle ground between Brad and the Edgelord. Men could just... be fucking normal about it and acknowledge that what they think is not going to please everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 10:18 PM
15

So you've no issue with the ones that just... say no thanks?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 10:14 PM
21

I can't lust after someone if it feels like I'm just whoring myself out. He's got to be a known quantity or I can't do it. Lust sneaks up on me and bats me upside the head like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 10:11 PM
3

Well, that's obviously a lie. Some of it's probably peacocking for men. How much varies. But they peacock for us, too, if they're worthwhile.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 09:49 PM
2

When I was young and dumb, sure, I hated my natural looks as much as the next insecure kitten. These days? Grateful beyond belief that I never got anything done. I only worry that those girls will grow up to be regretful women. Or worse, not grow up at all (plastic surgery caused an infection in one influencer's heart that killed her).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 09:48 PM
2

Hell, if that's the look she herself would naturally have loved, idgaf what she does to get it. If she's only doing it to please others, though, that's stupid. There's always going to be some new thing in vogue. Last decade it was BBLs, but the people who popularised having ginormous arses have suddenly had theirs shrunk back to normal. Ordinary folks don't need to be baddies.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 09:33 PM
2

It's less "I don't give a single eff what a man thinks" for me and more "that look is revolting, if that's what men like, have fun, y'all". I don't actually want to waste good money getting my T&A done, or either time or money ridding myself of every ounce of naturally occurring fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 09:30 PM
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Are you looking for validation? No sane person is going to go, "Yeah! Keep cheating on your husband with this guy! Follow the whims of your cunt!"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 09:26 PM
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I disagree with your anecdote. :) I got plenty of attention from men outside my age group, and I was opinionated, driven, and confident. I was also a manic pixie dream girl type and whimsigothed it up, and maybe that turned them on -- but I never stopped being my mother's daughter!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 07:21 PM
1

That's rope fuel for younger me, I was always about those older men
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 07:18 PM
2

I wouldn't be able to do it. I prefer me relatively clean-shaven, but that's because I like the look. If someone were to ask me to do it, I would wonder why they felt they had rights in my body. I like longer-haired men, but if I'm with someone who prefers theirs short, no way am I going to push them to grow it. So... they're gonna get the same energy from me. Love that you and your husband have come to a place of peace for yourselves, definitely could not have that relationship with a partner o…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 04:16 PM
1

Presumably because they figured out what would happen if we let the stupid run the country. Of course, they failed to account for the rich they were including. They assumed rich people were always going to be smarter somehow. Spoilers...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 01:45 PM
1

Then I met the man who would become my husband, and it was "How can I be more attractive to him, and a better romantic partner?" and eventually "What are my duties as a wife and mother of his child, and how can I do them better?" This kind of thing is why I decentered men for a year. Just to wean myself off the heteronormative tit. I recognised that I was leaning that way in my relationships and I didn't like it, and was losing a lot of who I was to it, so I taught myself how to relate in such a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 01:38 PM
1

My self-worth is strong enough that I don't have to either play games or settle. I can just be single. It's not the end of the world. I respect myself and the other person enough not to play games.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:42 AM
1

I have self-worth, is all. I'm not that extraordinary.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 02:53 AM
3

Since it excludes all things sane in favour of manipulating your partner into picking you, as opposed to just picking your partner better, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 02:20 AM
2

I can live with that, tbh :) I'm not sexually aggressive either, so it's good to match vibes!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 02:10 AM
1

"Pick me. Choose me. Love me." To the exclusion of all things sane.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 02:09 AM
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If you're compromising on things that are important to you, you're not picking better, you're a pickme.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 10:23 PM
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Yup, that's what I do. Seems like some people are too stupid/hormonal to keep their heads about them, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 08:53 PM
1

Where does "pick better" imply that you have to maximise every single desirable trait? It just means "pick a better person than the one you were last with, obviously that one didn't suit".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 08:50 PM
1

Girl. 10 years old? You were poisoned at a young age, your ass should've been on a swingset.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 08:44 PM
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The answer is not "making people be parents that don't want to". Jesus, people like you are why I fucking had my uterus removed.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 08:42 PM
2

Wow. Um. Your aunt really shouldn't have done that to her husband. And your other friend... I wonder how soon she'll be divorced.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 08:41 PM
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We don't know they're willing to commit -- or aren't willing to commit -- on sight. Don't grant us credit for being clairvoyant, here.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 08:18 PM
5

A woman with two brain cells to rub together will recognise the excuses for what they are, unless she's in her early twenties and hasn't learned anything about men yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 08:17 PM
1

Just fucking have boundaries and abide by them, yeesh. If I want to get married, for example, to whoever my partner is, when we get serious, we're having that talk. "I would like to be married to my person. If you are not interested in marriage, ever, perhaps this should stop here and we'll just go our separate ways." Set a boundary, and keep it. Be prepared to back up what you say you need with action. Grown women should know how to do this without resorting to manipulation or bitchiness. Holdi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 08:13 PM
1

The town bike, even
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 08:02 PM
1

😱😱😱
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 07:30 PM
1

My legs are crying at the thought of another sesh with the razor, and waxing anything is too damn painful. Veet it is...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 07:12 PM
2

I am Elsbeth Tascioni's younger self. It's hard to stop me approaching strangers, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 07:10 PM
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More shocked at the idea of a man letting her have a relationship before opening them! Granted, we're still talking about Stacy here, men will give her a lot of leeway, I find.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 07:04 PM
2

I'm not a sex-positive feminist, so
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 05:06 PM
4

Also, where did I say I turned my back on friends or family? I love my friends and family. I spent years helping my dad through the worst of his PTSD (he's doing much better now, we love that for him). You have me confused with someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 02:30 PM
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I've been researching this shit since my own problems started. I'm not brain fogged and sedentary, I'm happy, less anxious than ever, and considering I'm chained to a desk eight hours a day, still pretty damn active. Mental health treatments are what you make of them. Good for you on the beating cancer, but my dude, please don't assume that yours is the only valid experience when, again, some of us out here are in the helping professions and have seen some interesting things happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 02:28 PM
5

So it's okay if a high value woman doesn't grant him sex until a relationship has been established? Great!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 02:10 PM
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You have never actually studied to be a helping professional and it shows. Have the opinions you like about them, but know that those of us out here who have actually done the homework are laughing at you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 02:03 PM
1

If I were a guy, not only would I be snipped, I'd be gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 01:55 PM
0

Nine months of pregnancy isn't equivalent to one orgasm, either. Take it up with God.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 01:55 PM
1

Fair's fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 01:35 PM
0

Since untreated STIs have serious, lasting complications, it's on the partner who's presumably cheating to foot the bill.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 12:33 PM
1

To what end? Done is done. Me being angry that I'm treated like a potential terrorist was an argument to be had in 2001.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 12:30 PM
2

But mandatory testing rather implies that every man not only has suspicions but is justified in having them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 12:28 PM
1

How old are you, because there was a time before extensive security checks, and it was fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 02:20 AM
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"And there are women who never know their baby daddy was molesting their kids until years later" Why aren't these women married to their baby daddy? [record screech] So their HUSBANDS can be the ones molesting their kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 02:18 AM
1

Wanting monthly STI checks is a legitimate reason to ask your partner to get STI checks, whether they like it or not. They can take it as an accusation if they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 02:17 AM
1

On the kids born to drug addicts and alcoholics that get seized by CPS at the hospital. That's not standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 02:13 AM
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Besides making it a standard mandatory test, would remove the accusation of cheating, atleast on a personal level. Sure. It would move the accusation of cheating to the macro level. "She's a woman, we can't take her word that she didn't cheat on her child's putative father, therefore it is policy to test all newborns for paternity." That's not the great look y'all think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 02:10 AM
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Shouldn't people in relationship talk and come with solutions together to insecurities and uncertainties both may have? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 02:06 AM
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What I meant was that the DNA test is verifying fatherhood for an actual child, whereas the STD testing isn't based on evidence of actual cheating. But the DNA test is based in evidence of actual cheating?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 02:04 AM
1

Since my desire doesn't rule me, I don't foresee ever having to "give those guys a chance". I would rather be alone than faking it for someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 01:33 AM
3

but they're so tasty
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 11:31 PM
6

Modern-day right-wing men absolutely have encouraged and enforced these roles. They're just all aging out of what you think is relevant, which is frankly solipsistic of you. You forget that so many of us turned out furious because we came up under purity culture. That's still modern-day. That's not history yet. We're not done reckoning with it. signed, a woman who just wants someone who's equal, and equally as confident
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 11:26 PM
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Do you, or do you need, need to actually be attracted to guys you go on dates with? So why in heck's name would I date someone I found ugly or who was overweight (my personal "nope")? Autistic isn't something you can detect on sight, but damn, if he can't relate to me on a certain level, what, am I supposed to overlook feeling disconnected from my partner? What if I don't want a man for the sake of having a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 10:27 PM
1

I understood. :) As Ted Lasso said, "stay curious" :)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 08:33 PM
3

When your self-worth doesn't lie in having a man, any man, you can choose with your head on right.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 08:24 PM
1

Gotta keep your head up and know your worth, and not in a pink-pilled girlboss way. This is why I like being a woman of faith: I'm a daughter of the King, and even if I end up single, to quote Sinead O'Connor, "I got a lovin' man but he's a spirit."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 08:16 PM
2

You, yes. I've seen enough of your posts that I would absolutely trust you to stand up to vetting. You are probably one of the higher-value men here. There are a lot of men looking at this post, realising they're in the OP's description, and getting upset about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 08:15 PM
3

But I thought this sub encouraged women to get with low value men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 08:13 PM
0

Play shit games, win shit prizes? Either you settle early for someone like this real lulu or, what, you keep looking, but you end up with children by multiple men? When you say these things, do you intend to persuade women that a life of cats, besties, and a vibrator is really the winner here, or is that just a side effect?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 08:12 PM
4

Actually, desperation and loneliness make red flags look... a little more yellow. Almost green, sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 08:08 PM
0

You're the exception. The rule around here tends to be "you expire after 25" and "give men you otherwise wouldn't a chance". Vetting a man before giving him many PPD men's definition of a chance? Unthinkable. Why, we might turn him down.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 08:07 PM
1

I would never notice them opting out. When you know you'll never make six figures or be Stacy, realism kicks in.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 04:42 PM
6

You have your head screwed on straight. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 04:41 PM
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I often find myself quoting a character from one of my favorite books when "women" are described as things I was never raised to be: "What am I, a banshee?" And though some of you would say yes (:D) I don't feel that rises to the level of racism or anti-trans bigotry -- though it shares some features with the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 04:33 PM
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I wasn't being indecent. I phrased a question in a matter of fact way that may have challenged OP, but the way they're acting, you'd think I slapped them. What a to-do over the exact treatment men give me on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 02:28 PM
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Please, like I defer to hot guys. You have no idea the calibre of bluntness I grew up around. To me, it's just conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 12:55 PM
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Blunt is rude now?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 01:34 AM
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Still fine as fuck, with the right styling!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 12:01 AM
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You can go from not to hot, trust me. Trim midsize men like you are fire.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 11:14 PM
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Sarcasm ill becomes thee.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 11:09 PM
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Basic human decency does not involve sugarcoating my words. None of us are such naive kittens that we need everything to be gently-gently-now.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 08:29 PM
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Ooh, those hobbies are lovely. Team sports show an ability to get on with other people, and guitar takes real dexterity (also, guitarists and bassists have the best calluses).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 08:12 PM
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I do care about the answer, and I'm also not going to baby you through this discussion. If you can't handle a woman being blunt, that's on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 08:11 PM
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I was genuinely thinking we were going to end up in a fight about DEI, and how it's giving women "the good jobs" (no, we're just... getting jobs).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 08:10 PM
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For me, it's all factoring into whether he'll be a good mate. :) I mentioned that financial competence thing because I don't want to get attached to someone who's going to depend on me for our emergency fund. If he's handy (I'm really not), it means we might be able to DIY some stuff that would otherwise cost us big.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 07:06 PM
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3.5? Like, it really depends on whether we can relate in our spare time. I'm vetting for compatibility, and hobbies can also be a sign of things like financial competence (i.e. can he get through the month without getting to the end of the money). Mr. I Just Bought A 3D Printer But My Finances Are Weird is a no. Mr. I Have A Gaming Rig But I Live Paycheck to Paycheck, similar no. Mr. I Can't Shut Up About What I'd Rather Be Doing Than This Date, please no.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 07:03 PM
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So, when another man has staked out his territory, you're fine with rejection, but if she just doesn't want to engage, that's a humiliation ritual?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 06:57 PM
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Strangers generally don't know "the way I dress" from one outfit, "the way I talk" from one conversation, or any of the rest in the space of, I'm guessing, less than fifteen minutes, so we can put that to rest. Also, given that I have a rich inner life that is not at all indicated by my appearance or presentation, they don't know me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 06:55 PM
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That was not what he was getting at. Men absolutely end up in jobs that women don't do, though I tend to think it's because schooling lets them down and many don't see the point in continuing in a system that doesn't suit you anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 03:55 PM
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When we eat together, we definitely talk, but most of the time people eat in their offices -- it's my time to unplug my mind. We need that in our line of work.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 12:16 AM
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Spoken like a straight man!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 12:07 AM
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Nope, not engaging with this kack. Have a nice night.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 12:00 AM
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Yikes, yeah, this is definitely not the women I know! If I had fuck-off money like that, as long as he contributed something of value, it wouldn't matter to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 11:34 PM
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I can't speak for all women, but I do know that a man making less than I do would have a hard time surviving in this economy, even in my city. I don't want to be with someone who can't support themselves. Not my job to support them. Not their job to support me. That is equality. Take it up with the pink pill types who are actually yelling about men who make less than they do but can support themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 11:26 PM
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No. Equality usually translates to "I want him to be able to contribute what I contribute." If she wants to live well above his means, sure, she'll have to take on the burden, but that's more applicable to a woman making six figures and a man around 50K most often.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 11:16 PM
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I think you're confusing feminist women with pickme sugar mamas
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 11:05 PM
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There are levels of that -- the Captain/First Mate dynamic is not about compliance, it's about sorting out whose dominance is dominant for a lot of couples. :D
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 06:53 PM
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A man with really good life, a man who is enjoying life and establish life without her, she wants to see herself in his life because she thinks it is a worth life living with him. men with great careers or being great providers, good or nice guys Not mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 06:50 PM
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Some people don't like it up the ass. Cope.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 06:46 PM
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For fucking REAL. It really is not the size, it's what you're doing down there that matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 01:31 AM
1

You know what? Have a nice night.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 01:29 AM
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Well-fitting chinos and a comfortable tee does it for me. And non-sneaker shoes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 11:13 PM
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To which I can only say I remember that, and it was particularly painful. I shall give thanks if I can now take a whole penis without having to tell him STOP NO THAT'S ALL.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 11:09 PM
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So, you don't actually know any women to ask? Or you're just writing off their opinions as nonsense because, what, some pollster hasn't sanctioned them?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 10:52 PM
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On the nose, friend!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 10:47 PM
3

Am 39, still light up like a little child when something delights me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 10:45 PM
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Is that meant to be a hardship?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 10:44 PM
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You're not in America per your flair, correct? [sigh] so lucky
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 10:10 PM
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Everyone should have a "fuck off" fund that lets them get out of a bad situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 10:05 PM
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Gerroff, he doesn't need to be jammed into the space behind the cervix I no longer have in order for me to like it
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 10:02 PM
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Spoken as someone who's never taken the subject with an ounce of the gravity it deserves! Fuck off.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 09:58 PM
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I'm screwed there anyway if they go strictly by birth certificates because I chose my own name at 33. :D
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 09:44 PM
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hard rule of dick size I see what you did there :D
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 09:01 PM
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You get it! Thank you. On behalf of all the women who are less-than-able to endure a sizable penis, thank you for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 08:55 PM
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Who are these women so I can go and yell at them, please?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 08:51 PM
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There you go, telling women what we want. I could make shit up about what men want, but I'd know better than to actually dictate to a man what he wants because I'm not him. Also, I've known enough men to be aware that men have major differences of opinion on what they want. Maybe you just haven't listened to enough women?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 08:50 PM
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Girth can also be, um, an immense problem for me
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 08:48 PM
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I'm known professionally under my own name as well -- changing emails, changing business cards, having people wonder if I'm the same woman as [my firstname] [my lastname]? No thanks :)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 08:42 PM
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I chose my last name, so I doubt I'd be willing to take someone else's unless it sounded better. Plus, I'd have a ton of paperwork to do if I took theirs. Oy, what a headache. I suppose I can be Mrs. Whoever socially.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 08:40 PM
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I live in America, but no, I'm not entirely American. America not being the centre of the universe, I saw no need to put a disclaimer up about my ethnicity.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 04:36 PM
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Well done, Russian ladies! And - yeah, if you're broke and the one thing you can do is go fight, I don't blame them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 04:14 PM
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That is a fair statement to make, and you made it in a way that did not dismiss their contributions. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 02:36 AM
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He's talking out his arse if he doesn't realise that the USSR's female snipers were legendary and not to be shat upon. I'm mocking his general stance on women, not trying to pull a card. He himself has said that women are not equal to men. I'm calling back to that. Pssh, like I expect to be treated better because I'm a woman? I just want to be a goddamn equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 02:04 AM
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If you know how to regulate your feelings and experience a great loss then cry in front of your wife I don’t think she’d view you as less. This is exactly it. I find people who can regulate their emotions hotter than people who don't, but grief is when everything's supposed to fall apart, you know? Of all the things my ex did wrong, openly grieving the death of his dog was nowhere on the list. I drove out to support him, and God love him, he was a wreck. So we cuddled for like three days straigh…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 11:35 PM
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Okay, Mr. Military History Degree. You know best. I'm just a woman, and women aren't equal to men. ...excuse me, I need to find a plant in which to puke
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 11:29 PM
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I'm struggling to give a shit, here. Especially in the face of someone who goes out of his way to crap on women as a gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 10:37 PM
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That doesn't erase the fact that they stayed. Also, you didn't read what I linked, or you would know that it's way more than support positions. Slavic women are known to be fearless in the face of combat, and probably the only thing preventing Russian women from taking up arms is the sheer batshittery of Putin's government.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 10:35 PM
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I'm sorry the numbers aren't more recent, but things can't have changed significantly: https://war.ukraine.ua/articles/how-many-women-are-defending-ukraine-against-russia-s-invasion/
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 10:17 PM
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In my household, it's whoever gets to the unfortunate bastard first, actually. Dad with his gun, me with my sword.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 10:06 PM
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ik, a lot of women really tell on themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 10:03 PM
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If you dye your armpit hair, I consider that mockable because it's a waste of dye unless your armpit hair is at terminal growth.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 04:27 PM
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Not where I live. Maybe on this sub, but I was thinking in terms of offline, which is what actually matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 04:25 PM
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I don't think the concept of AF/BB explains why good-looking quirky people get a pass and somewhat homelier quirky people do not. The homelier quirky men don't even get settled for, unless they have a talent that sets them apart. Your earning potential won't help if a woman thinks you're too much of a freak even to make a family with once she's ready to settle down. A hot freak might get one or two nights, but never more than that, so if that's what he wants, great. The number of men who are loo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 02:39 AM
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All rape is just as bad as all other rape, if I'm parsing what you're getting at correctly. Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 01:28 AM
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Women can get away with not caring about social norms. We're called manic pixie dream girls when we do it. We're called quirky. Men are shunned, especially by women. Which is bullshit, but there you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 12:38 AM
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Viewing relationships in terms of statistics, dynamics and tradeoffs is something that 95%+ of the normal, functioning population simply doesnt do. Questions like this solely apply to incredibly socially stunted men and women (the main users of this forum.) Terrible human being, this man. Can't be trusted.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 08:42 PM
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He's not said anything any born-and-raised Westerner wouldn't. It's not moral grandstanding, I just do not see how he believes anything differently from someone from a Western country.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 07:51 PM
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Or you could just be shutting your ears to those of us who'd be happy to pick up the tab.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 07:47 PM
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idk, man, I mostly care when it means one of two things: A. His preferences in bed are dictated entirely by porn, or B. He can't get it up for me, thereby depriving me of actual pleasure, because he's used to porn. I don't find porn particularly moral, given that we can't verify the consent of the participants, and I've heard some shit, but if I had to narrow down my quibbles to the top two, those are it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 07:44 PM
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Successful marketers require plenty of emotional intelligence to figure out what buttons to push to get their product to appeal to the most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 07:39 PM
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What is with the casual xenophobia on this sub? He's from Afghanistan, that only tells you what passport he holds. Fuck's sake.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 07:07 PM
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Fight for whose freedom, though? Certainly not the people's; at this point, the only people who gain freedom are the oligarchs. Freedom to spend, freedom to exploit. I wouldn't fight for America, either. I'd fight for Germany, which has got a lot more going for its people, but America? I'd be on the first boat across Lake Ontario to Toronto or Ottawa.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 07:03 PM
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100%. Women also have a duty to sacrifice our lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 07:01 PM
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There's a lot of freedom in renting. I'm sorry, but I call cope on this. Your house is not your own, your landlord can sell it out from under you. If you live in a unit, your landlord can jack up what it costs to live there with impunity. At least when I own, no-one can do those things to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 06:57 PM
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I've never seen this much internalised misandry in one place before. Is OP okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 06:49 PM
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Yikesssss, sounds like some White saviour behaviour up in there
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 02:29 AM
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So, I was the child of a marriage where my parents worked through their differences and are now coming up on fifty years together. I wouldn't say I'm any more likely to make it work for the sake of XYZ (there won't be kids) than any other woman. What I learned from them was how to gauge whether the fundamentals of the relationship were still intact. For them, the love they'd had for many years remained through all of their ups and downs. They had things in common with each other that no other hu…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 02:11 AM
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Oh, agreed. Even Americans in Canada forget themselves. I'm grateful my hometown is smallish and off the beaten path, for all it's a UNESCO World Heritage Site.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 01:38 AM
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Oh, agreed on all of that. People who make travelling their entire personality usually haven't actually lived anywhere else and it's painful to deal with them as someone who has. I'm sorry. I've been awfully cranky tonight. You did strike a bit of a nerve, but I didn't handle it with grace.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 01:36 AM
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Doing it to a woman who thinks you're committed to her is sadistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 01:34 AM
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It's at least partly your jab at worldly women. Like... sorry I'm not some all-American dipshit ditz who's never left Podunk?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 10:54 PM
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The travel one is a no for me in part for that reason. [edit] Permit me to explain. There are men like that, too. And to a one, they are Tiresome. Why, no, I haven't got the funds or flexible schedule to drop everything and go on the road! I have responsibilities and I took a vow of poverty in order to do the work that feeds my soul. I am simply not compatible with Devoted Travellers.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 10:53 PM
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If you're married, she'll take half your shit. If you're not, she has every right to put your shit outside on the kerb and change the locks. And if you genuinely don't care about her doing any of that, I wonder why you're with her in the first place when you could just be spinning plates.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 09:21 PM
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Hey, they're only giving away half a Bible! Cheapskates.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 09:07 PM
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Those girls had something wrong with them, not you. If they can't handle, holy fuck, grief, they're not fit to be in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 08:28 PM
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I don't want a man to entertain my histrionics. To be there when I am genuinely wounded, sure, but I tend to contain that very well. I expect approximately the same from any partner of mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 08:24 PM
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The real failure point is not rejecting gracefully -- for anyone. If I "get the ick", it's on me and therefore it's on me to accept the blame in whatever explanation I give. Actually saying "you gave me the ick" doesn't help anyone here. If, for example, I feel like we're too far apart in terms of life experience, and that's why I can't keep going, it's on me to dig deep and articulate that instead of blaming "the ick".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 08:20 PM
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Got it, thanks :) Yeah, Ben's full of shit, rap is realer than real.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 05:06 AM
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Melania loathes him. I don't think any of the sex he has is enthusiastic or even consensual.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 03:58 AM
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Tikkun olam? Gotta understand the distance between people to begin to heal the rift.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 02:29 AM
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Women have no self-respect
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 01:30 AM
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then is there even a world where being submissive in bed isn’t degrading? Yeah. And that world is WAP. "If you make me like it, I'll let you use my body for nine months to continue your bloodline" is not my idea of a woman reclaiming anything. Literally trading her bodily autonomy for an orgasm. There's nothing feminist about getting knocked up unless it's via turkey baster or IVF and your partner is a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 01:22 AM
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Yeah, good art
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 01:20 AM
1

Suddenly it's fascist to miss classical and opera?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 01:13 AM
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No... his room isn't why I hope he never gets laid, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 12:59 AM
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His room isn't why
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 12:18 AM
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God, I hope Chris Brown is getting laid less.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 08:03 PM
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Bless us, we do try.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:43 AM
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Out in the real world or in here, though?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 01:40 AM
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Go to an Episcopal (US)/Anglican (Can/UK) church sometime. There's a refreshing lack of that in our denomination.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 10:05 PM
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That's fair, you know? It wasn't that way when my father was serving, or at least he knew how to code-switch between the military and civilian settings. So this is a lesson in what's considered respectful in the civilian world. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 08:54 PM
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What about the fujoshis and the C-drama stans, tho
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 08:15 PM
1

In this economy? Jesus, just learn to squat
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 08:13 PM
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Yeeeeeah, ngl I wanted to feel something. But when you don't, it's going to be settling, and it's cruel to settle, to both of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 06:54 PM
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I will reiterate: if you don't want to fuck them, let them go find someone who will. He's doing the right thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 06:16 PM
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Turns out I really can't be the older partner in a relationship by more than a few months O.O also, TIL: if your body is saying no thank you, set the person free to go find someone who will want to fuck them
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 05:43 PM
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"Woman" is the noun for the adult female human of the species. "Female" is the adjective (a female what? Cat, dog, iguana?) and feels dehumanising.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 05:38 PM
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He's a flabby Oompa-Loompa with a bad yellow rug.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 06:48 PM
2

I mean, "women" is right there :)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 06:46 PM
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A boundary is just that: where your comfort lies, what you will put up with in a relationship. Yes, it's true, if your boundaries are incompatible with another person, that person is free to leave. But do you really want someone at the expense of your personal integrity?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 06:43 PM
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I'm guessing your work does not involve emotional labour of any sort. Mine does, so yes, at meetings, we're going to get a little therapeutic because we all recognise the need to take care of ourselves and each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 05:33 PM
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What can I say? A dynasty of FDR types would have been preferable to bloody Reagan and what followed him.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 05:25 PM
1

Oof, yay!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 12:23 AM
3

Rosie the Riveter can get it right here
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 10:22 PM
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He apologized, do you want him to pay reparations, too?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 10:18 PM
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OP is saying the quiet(ly racist) part out loud, love this for them. I'll be over here boning Wang Yizhou and Fu Meng-Po. Because masculinity is not a monolith any more than femininity, and different cultures exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 10:09 PM
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We do, cos hot chicks fixing things is also fire
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 09:41 PM
4

That's so friggin' wholesome tho
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 05:19 PM
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everybody go home, OP just nuked the reason for PPD's existence <3
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 04:30 PM
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If you're not willing to take me at my word, we have absolutely nothing to say to each other. I don't engage with people who believe I'm acting in bad faith. Bye now.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 04:23 PM
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Quit bullshitting and come back when you have the foggiest idea of what I'm discussing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 02:15 PM
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This is a Reddit debate. I don't, in fact, have to write you a dissertation. I can ask you to just Google the concepts I'm discussing for yourself. Do a little homework and then we can discuss the topic on a more even playing field. If you threw me a concept I didn't understand, I would educate myself about it before I dismissed it out of hand, but that's not how you roll.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 02:14 PM
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Matthew 7:6, pet. Do not cast your pearls before swine. You can't see the value in what I'm saying, so I'm inviting you to find out for yourself what I'm talking about. Can't handle a little independent scholarship? Or do you just tune out things that don't fit with your idea of how the world works?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 04:13 AM
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I looked on your profile. You're in grad school? Does your university have a criminal justice program? Of any sort? Go research restorative and transformative justice and get back to me. Then you can tell me about how people rotting in jail is so much better.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 03:44 AM
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What good does throwing people in jail do? They sit around, maybe they do a bit of woodwork, a bit of manufacturing work that is only a prison job because it pays like a Chinese sweatshop, they rot. There's no addressing what happened to cause the crime. In the US, prison is a for-profit cage. At least notions of restorative and transformative justice go further than that. And far from being a society with too many social workers, we are a society with so grave a lack of them and so dire a lack …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 03:03 AM
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We're just not creative enough about justice. We don't address the why, we don't give an adequate why not given rates of recidivism... the system is broken, time to fix it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 12:22 AM
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Once again, I'm an outlier. My crushes range in age from 30-67.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 10:49 PM
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They should just admit they want women with penises.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 07:50 PM
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Blackpilled as hell if you ask me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 07:45 PM
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Bro, I can promise you that is not the only ingredient for good sex for a person with a vagina.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 07:38 PM
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Those men often turn out to be more of a hassle than they're worth, and also they have a healthy enough self-worth for, like, ten people. No thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 07:36 PM
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Honestly, I'm not a fan of jail time as a deterrent when other people in the community (i.e. dependent children) would be made homeless. Including fathers' children, not just mothers'. Men who are the sole support of a family need a creative solution in most sentence-bearing crimes -- we're not talking about "major menace to society" stuff here, like rape, murder, etc., we're talking about drug charges and nonviolent offenses.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 07:04 PM
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Honestly, I'm not a fan of jail time as a deterrent when other people in the community (i.e. dependent children) would be made homeless. Including fathers' children, not just mothers'. Men who are the sole support of a family need a creative solution in most sentence-bearing crimes -- we're not talking about "major menace to society" stuff here, like rape, murder, etc., we're talking about drug charges and nonviolent offenses.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 07:03 PM
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You're the 50/50 woman from the Garfunkel and Oates song?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 07:01 PM
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You're forgetting there's a child somewhere in all this who has to go somewhere. It is in fact traumatic for a child to be ripped away from caregiver(s) they love.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 02:02 PM
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The vast majority of my clients have never been married, yet they are single parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 01:44 PM
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They can serve their jail time and pay restitution. This is common. And also incredibly burdensome on everyone involved. The jobs that ex-prisoners get are not the most lucrative, so the not-dad will be getting his restitution in dribs and drabs and the mom will still be living in pretty much penury. If that's your idea of justice, it's rather draconian. It's more justice than most women get when they're raped, tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 01:37 PM
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idk, I love my cat pretty unconditionally. Like, if she turned vicious, I would know that something was wrong and do anything I could to help her heal, and if nothing could be found, then I would help her over the Rainbow Bridge. If she started peeing all over the place, same, except that if she really just was a cat who pissed everywhere, I'd probably get an arsenal of cleaning implements and deal. I also can't think of anything my mother could do to make me stop loving her. Stop liking her may…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 02:05 AM
1

Because they're cruel [redacted] who make me ashamed to be female sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 01:56 AM
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More people are being diagnosed with mental illness than in the fifties because our understanding of mental illness has come light-years in seventy years. More people are on medication because we now have medication that works. Fewer people just plain end up dead by their own hand. I was a pretty adolescent when I went on meds and, because my body needed help dealing with its wiring and its chemistry, I have become a middle-aged woman on meds because I have lived long enough to reap the rewards.…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 01:49 AM
4

Yeah, actually. They pack 'em in.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 05:08 PM
6

ngl, guy in the middle's also the one that looks like he'd be the best partner
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 04:44 PM
5

The most based answer in this post
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 03:47 PM
4

Or maybe women saw a lot of nerds getting a lot of money working in tech, and decided they wanted in. Of all the reasons I have loved SF/F since I was a girl, I can assure you that was not one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 03:44 PM
6

Then how come I never smell it at Family Court? Or at work conferences?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 03:42 PM
1

The pressure is so real with multi-dating O.O I just want one. I'm content to narrow it down over chat and then actually date one, then start from scratch.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 12:04 AM
1

Like... 2 or 3. But I work a whole-ass 8:30-5 with a 40-minute commute, so I don't have much time to myself, and in my field, time to unwind is paramount.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 11:59 PM
1

Like... intention: have dates on various nights with various people, eventually choose the one I like. Reality: oh my God that's a tiring way to live, there's not enough TIME
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 11:54 PM
1

Has California not got state police?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 11:42 PM
2

I'm still single for at least the next 24 hours, so: My daydreams about my ideal life involve falling in love with my unattainable faves. But also about winning the lottery, which is actually more likely to happen :D
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 11:40 PM
2

That never works as intended, so just... pack it in and date one at a time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 11:34 PM
1

I thought this too, until I realised that there are plenty of wonderful people here who can't vote (immigrants!).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 02:09 PM
1

Then I was clearly wrong in my usage... twenty-six days ago, you necromancer.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 11:56 PM
1

I don't "use" any of these. It is always dehumanising.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 10:04 PM
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Do you know how to say "woman", or is "foid" meant as a specific pejorative here?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 08:53 PM
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Ruralish.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 07:54 PM
2

I'm in jolly blue New York. No-one defended me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 06:32 PM
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Not all work is the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 06:18 PM
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You sure about that? Because I know people have expected me to be married with a kid by now, more people than not, and look at me having done neither. I've sure as hell been treated like a loser, even if they don't say the word to my face.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 06:18 PM
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I would've called it the "virgins and losers" meme, too. Because both are pretty memey, and also both hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 06:11 PM
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I don't see the same articles about women who are perpetually single and are not interested in having kids. Did you miss the right-wing "childless cat ladies" meme?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 05:35 PM
4

This isn't making sense to me, could you clarify? None of this is about "team man" or "team woman", it's just about fidelity. If you asked your girlfriend to wait until marriage, but she were out there having sex with other men, what would you do? How would you feel?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 05:17 PM
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I'm just going to tell you that that is not how it works for me. That's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 03:36 PM
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I don't think sex work is just work. I don't think sex workers are some subclass of people, either, but sex work is not just work.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 03:26 PM
4

She made it clear that her boundary was no sex before marriage. He assumed something that I have never seen assumed in any normal relationship in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 03:20 PM
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So... the relationship isn't real unless they're boning. No monogamy until she betrays her values. Am I reading you correctly? If the genders were reversed, how would you feel about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 03:17 PM
2

Anything with its basis in evolutionary psychology (edited for mistype) is akin to religion.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 03:13 PM
1

Sex isn't a service, to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 03:09 PM
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If you can't see the difference between accounting and having to fuck strangers for money, idk what to tell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 02:49 PM
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My boss isn't fucking me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 02:46 PM
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used a sex worker That's what would squick me. "Used". Not "visited" or anything that suggests she's a person. "Used".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 02:38 PM
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That was word salad. Would you care to try again?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 02:27 PM
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No, I don't. I want people to know what they're getting into.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 11:41 AM
3

Oh my God, just invest in decent lube
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 12:55 AM
1

Model-type men are a headache. Younger women don't know this yet, and entitled women ignore it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 12:35 AM
1

I have to lol here because no man has ever told me I have to wear makeup. Like... never, from when I began dating to now. I wear lipstick and a little blush, sometimes eyeliner and mascara, because I like how I look. Men have literally never given a damn in my hearing/sight.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 10:24 PM
0

Were we reading the same post? The only criterion it met was "longer than expected". Maybe you're not used to how men communicate?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 10:21 PM
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Funny, I don't feel irrelevant at 39. I still get plenty of matches. Are they all my type? Statistically impossible. But it's far from being as grim as men report that it is for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 10:19 PM
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None of this justifies being dishonest with women. If you only want sex, don’t pretend that you want a relationship. 100% agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 10:15 PM
1

Would they consent if they knew you had no plans to stick around?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 10:13 PM
2

FWIW, if I were talking with someone who had that happen to them, I would happily send them a picture of me with a piece of paper with whatever (safe for work) phrase he wanted on it. Just to prove it's me. You should be able to tell from the appearance of the paper whether filters have been used.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 10:11 PM
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You know, you're not wrong about the attention seeking. I'm bi, and I wouldn't get on very well with a woman who was, generously, that much of an exhibitionist.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 09:26 PM
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By PPD standards I'm five years dead and buried. I still date, and believe me, sexual attraction hasn't taken a backseat. I will point out that common advice to women like me is "lower your standards", which often translates to "don't expect to be sexually attracted to him" since they think expecting more than a fat bald man is aiming too high.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 04:01 PM
2

I've done it. I need things like empathy and kindness. Can't figure those out, or pride yourself on being the edgiest edgelord that ever edged? There's the door.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 08:33 PM
2

Women like me? What the fuck kind of negging are you trying to pull?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 07:15 PM
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In this hypothetical, he does. If in reality, he doesn't, I don't give a damn. I'm not out here chasing him.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 03:17 PM
2

Okay, I can see that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 05:04 AM
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REAL
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 01:19 AM
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The mistake was when we started to require high school. Most people would be fine if their "high school" experience were training for a trade. By eighth grade, either you've got the basics and you're headed for higher ed, or you've proven that you actually aren't the kind of person who would benefit tremendously from a career that requires a university degree. For the non-university kids, two years of classroom prep for their eventual trade and certain other adult life basics, plus a solid appre…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 01:18 AM
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Enjoy your civilisation without lawyers or social workers.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 01:10 AM
2

So, curious thing that people have found about an "immunity" to caffeine: sometimes it's indicative of AD(H)D. If you actually calm down and focus better on caffeine, chances are you've just self-medicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 12:05 AM
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This is why whoever I end up with gets to cut ALL the chicken we eat
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 12:03 AM
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Isn't it ruder to reciprocate friendship when you're not feeling it?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 11:38 PM
1

Oh, yes, I respond very well to people cutting in on me, for the same reason. I don't always know I'm doing it! I'm a smidge autistic! :D I do apologize when it happens, and people are within their rights to let me know (I hope kindly) when I've lost them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 11:35 PM
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Contentious? No, it's just mutual curiosity. It doesn't always manifest as questions, either, sometimes it is just shared experiences as you describe. No matter who has the special interest, it's polite to remember that there are two people in the conversation, not one speaker and one listener.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 11:18 PM
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Chad doesn't get a pass from me. Human is human. If we forget about our common humanity, we're cooked. Anyone who forgets that I'm people and not just a pretty face to talk at isn't getting my attention for long -- but the same applies if I pull the same behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 11:15 PM
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I don't ask if he reads; I know there are ways to learn other than reading, and they're just as valid to me. But also, that's more of an intellectual intelligence question. If I'm doing it right, he's asking as many questions as I am. If I'm not leaving him space to get a word in edgewise, that's more on me. If he's getting a little "special interest" about something he likes, I try to see if he can shift off the topic and onto something we can both talk about. If he can't, he might be a person …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 11:09 PM
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Good idea. The more people involved in taking care of the child/ren, the better. It means the caregivers are less stressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 04:08 PM
1

So few of the people who will say "oh, you're a Christian, you're a horrible person" have actually practiced/believed. Thank you for being one of those who is not speaking out their bottom.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 03:49 PM
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Fair. I personally think mitigation involves a lot more hands-on training in fields where that's not traditionally done in the US, fields for which you typically need a degree but that degree could be a specialised hybrid degree-apprenticeship.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 03:47 PM
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Good, you've actually got it right. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 03:46 PM
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But define Christian ideology for me. Many non-Christians have defined it according to the fundamentalist/evangelical interpretation, not the interpretation of my own denomination, and when I point this out, they choose to invalidate me and my denomination rather than admit that there are multiple way to practice. So it is with RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 03:41 PM
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He doesn't use deceit or coercion and is respectful if things don't go his way? He doesn't shame the women he doesn't want, he just won't date them? I have no beef with him. His preferences are his preferences. He's still an ally.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 03:38 PM
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Presuming this is true, what's the point here?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 03:31 PM
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Eid Mubarak!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 01:13 AM
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Some people's children. [shakes head]
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 01:10 AM
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I wasn't calling fat women normal, actually. For the record. I should have specified "women who don't go to the gym", which to me is normal: women who go about our business and maintain a healthy weight through diet and mild exercise.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 02:33 PM
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Duh. Gym bros and normal women aren't really compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 03:16 AM
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It's about the sequence of events. Don't know how to put it any plainer.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 01:30 AM
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🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 01:29 AM
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More on par with the fifth-grade boyfriend unless you are in fact 26.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 01:01 AM
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They aren't whole human beings. Please fuck off.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 01:00 AM
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...it's what happens afterwards that's the point. Demisexuals can generally have deep platonic relationships with anyone. They are not, however, attracted by the deep platonic relationship? It's just a necessary ingredient. There's a special spice called sexual attraction that develops.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 01:00 AM
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Why is sex with your future partner that important? Bro...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 11:58 PM
2

It's more like women will choose to share the limited number of houses on the market and collectively save the nation's cats.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 11:58 PM
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There's "I can't be with my fifth-grade crush" and then there's "I can't do any better so I guess you'll have to do".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 11:49 PM
1

Comparing the termination of a pregnancy to the killing of a whole human being is bananas. Please just go be bananas at someone else now, sick of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 11:48 PM
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in this post, though: proof that both are unattainable for the average person
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 11:28 PM
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I don't tell anyone to settle. Being settled for sucks, doesn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 11:26 PM
1

I'm not saying kill your unwanted children. You and I disagree on what constitutes a child. I think the laws around child support suck, because conceiving with someone can absolutely be unwanted and you should be able to relinquish your rights as well as your responsibilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 10:53 PM
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Respectfully, with demisexuality, I've never seen it said that it's only about emotional connection. There definitely is a sexual component to it, too. But demisexuals need the emotional component to be there first, before they begin to feel the sexual component. Absolutely, hetero demisexual women get something from men that they can't from women, but why should that mean that they have to feel sexuality right away or they need to reevaluate whether they're hetero? They're just on a delayed sch…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 10:10 PM
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Women who are only looking for fuckboys have their reasons. Godspeed 'em. The fuckboys are out there. Likewise the trad women. If you just want a good time, don't date 'em. If you want a wife, one of them is probably a good bet. But they're both extremes. Just as the best men are a healthy blend of alpha fucks/beta bucks, the best woman is a healthy blend of the madonna and the whore. She knows how and when to deploy her sexuality, and she doesn't look fucking cheap doing it. If we must be whore…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 10:01 PM
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Men can just stop that shit anytime they want. If the people for whom they are providing have an issue with it, they are free to start working. Women in certain places cannot end an unwanted pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 09:54 PM
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Define "relies on the use of their bodies", at this point. I sense you're about to try and go "BAM! So stay-at-home moms deserve to die" or something equally stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 09:49 PM
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Men shouldn't be legally required to do that. I support paper abortions.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 08:38 PM
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Oh, you'd like to be disingenuous as well as rude to trans women? Got it. [edited to add] You're plainly a women's rights supporter until that woman has a penis. Then it's "not my circus, not my monkeys". Like I said. Smells TERFy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 07:24 PM
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Well, by some people's lights, a fetus =/= a human being with rights of its own. You live in a society with varied viewpoints on whether a proto-human gets to hijack a whole human for nine months without the whole human's consent, and no, sex is not consent to procreation.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 07:23 PM
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What China does with its own minerals isn't colonialism, which erased entire civilisations.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 07:21 PM
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Do you eat eggs? Chicken fetuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 06:01 PM
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My auntie worked cheek-by-jowl with those migrants, they were fucking fine. Where are you that there's an actual and real problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 06:00 PM
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Am leftist who happens to like it when women have rights, too. Am also not in the habit of blaming entire races and ethnicities for crimes that a select few commit, so... yeah, I want open borders and mass migration, and I don't see it as "voting to import violent men into the country".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 05:58 PM
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Tomatoes are not a goddamn privilege. Still having your culture intact, not having to reckon with the effects that colonialism had on your entire people -- that's the privilege. The tomatoes are irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 05:56 PM
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Women protesting for their abortion rights back is a hysterical demand? What if someone made male circumcision mandatory tomorrow?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 05:53 PM
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You're coming off really hostile, here. It sounds like you've had some bad experiences with trans women, and I want to honour that while also honouring that they are often just desperately seeking some kind of belonging in female spaces. I tend not to assume that sleeping with a trans woman is going to involve PIV, which is in fact the only activity that she could get you pregnant by. If she only wants to go down on you, are you seriously going to say "nah, you have a penis, I'm not interested i…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 05:51 PM
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Well, that's unfortunate. Still, straight men and trans women are probably not coming at it from the same place? Like... how many trans women are pushing for PIV with women? Considering that part of their anatomy has probably been the source of a LOT of dysphoria?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 05:36 PM
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What point was I proving? I'm not a trans woman, I'm not asking AFABs to fuck me. If I had any point to make, it was that lumping all AMABs together like that is dubious given that's a common TERF trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 05:35 PM
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This has to be the dumbest damn idea I've ever heard proposed unironically. Please be a giant joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 04:06 PM
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Where were these trans women throwing tantrums about 4B women not having sex with them? This smells TERFy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 04:04 PM
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It's called oldhagfashion ironically? Do you need your hand held while I explain various fashion subreddits to you? I don't know where you see people wearing distressed denim voluntarily, but I never see anyone doing it, and yes, that includes your vaunted women 21-27. The stores are also not selling it as much where I live. I know you like to be right about things, but in this respect you are very much behind the eight-ball.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 07:25 PM
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You're a man. I'm pretty sure you have no clue about female fashion.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 06:34 PM
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ffs go and read femalefashionadvice, ripped jeans haven't been a thing there in a long time
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 06:16 PM
1

You probably parented like a 90s parent. Modern parents slave for their kids. It's unnecessary. Kids won't die of neglect if you let them do their own thing while you have an hour or two for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 05:48 PM
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Don't forget that stepping out of the workforce means you now have a resume gap, so going back to work will be harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 05:25 PM
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I wouldn't do it because the children's father could decide to take it all away. None of that is mine, and the kids only half.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 05:21 PM
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For me, the likelihood that I'm getting any is predicated on me feeling safe enough to get that vulnerable with him. So... "make me feel safe" is like the number one "home run with Flora" tip. And if I'm comfortable enough for that and it's also a good time, you're gonna have a tough time getting rid of me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 04:56 PM
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Are you an actual doctor? Who speculates this hard about someone else's biology and why?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 04:48 PM
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In the US, cops have an unfortunate reputation for being abusive to their partners. I would prefer not to risk it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 04:46 PM
1

So do I.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 04:44 PM
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You and I didn't see the same human being in that controversy. Imane Khelif is no more manly than I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 04:36 PM
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At this point, given what I see every day, I'm not surprised. It's come to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 04:32 PM
1

That's changed in the last five years :)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 03:00 PM
4

Men shouldn't box with women and the only case you could be referring to features no men whatsoever
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 02:56 PM
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Wear a condom, ask her to use her own contraception, and you should never personally have the pro-life vs pro-choice dilemma.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 02:13 PM
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Women who go to parties and bars, sure. They chose that. Some of us choose not to because it turns out we don't like being objectified and we're not going to be brazenly sexual with some stranger at a party or a bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 02:11 PM
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I think you misread me? I was responding more to the idea that being gay could be a choice - it isn't. That's been proven not to be a social construct. Gender and sexuality are two different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 12:48 PM
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Both of these women have a lot more muscle than the average 200-pounder. My mother is 174 at 5'4" and is nowhere close to Miss 200 at 5'5", fat distribution wise... she has more fat, not less. And she stays active.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 10:58 PM
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I loathe both, so
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 10:47 PM
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Yes: 2, 10, 12, 13, 15, 19, 21, 24, 27, 28, 29 No: 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 11, 17, 18, 20, 22, 25, 26, 30 Depends on the rest of him: 1, 3, 9, 14, 16, 23
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 10:46 PM
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We all know that marriage is a great way to get got if you don't know how to do it the smart way. I wouldn't do it without an ironclad prenup and even then, I'd be nervous because what if the US goes full Handmaid's Tale? I don't want to become property.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 07:43 PM
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...have you seen what a lawyer will charge you for the same deal, start to finish?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 07:22 PM
4

It's the same as woman being attracted to a man who dresses nice, and has his life together How do I know he has his life together just by looking at him?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 07:14 PM
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It's not a social construct, you're LGBTQ+ or you're not
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 07:04 PM
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My org does mediated divorces for, all-in, around $3K. And that's the middle of a sliding scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 06:56 PM
4

My aunt just found out that at some point in her career, she broke a vertebra... now that she's retired and her back is gone, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 01:56 PM
1

Nope! We're done here. Nice talking with you, but please consult a DSM. Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 11:34 AM
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I can do that. It didn't take a gender swap, I just got myself sterilized. [shrug] I've not yet had PIV since then.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 01:56 AM
7

Squatting in a bush exposes your undercarriage to insect bites, and I don't think I'm meant to spray DEET there. It would be nice just to haul out my equipment and aim.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 01:55 AM
2

I was raised as close to gender-neutral as it's possible to be while actually knowing what sex you were born and having a gendered name. What stopped me from doing the major male career thing in my family -- enlisting -- was my mental health, not my sex. In truth, I'd probably have been an incel, if we're talking equivalent selves. I picture myself being something like my father: short, scrawny, a little absurd-looking. Intelligent, inclined to mouth off instead of complying. He got himself boot…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 01:54 AM
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It's entirely possible for men to change, but I don't go into relationships expecting that of anyone. I take people as they are. If "as they are" turns out to be "likes to be mean to me/displays toxic behavior", I nope out accordingly. I'm not here to love a man better.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 09:27 PM
1

I am aware of that, yes. There are different feminisms. Startling. The point I'm trying to make is the Black women have reason to disdain White feminism. Glossing over that is never a good look.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 06:49 PM
2

This is where I'm at, tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 06:31 PM
1

Sure, but engage with that for a second: Black women have womanism for a reason and talk about "White feminism" for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 06:29 PM
1

Because "feminist" on Reddit means something very different to feminism as women who touch grass practice it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 06:28 PM
3

I think I would choose someone who, if they do work, works for the betterment of others. That would be even more important to me, now that we no longer have to try and survive. It's the kind of work AI can't erase. Otherwise, the kind of person I want is the same. Emotionally intelligent, liberal, monogamous, shares my values.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 06:12 PM
1

I have heard red pill men say that women are the biggest children in the room, so if this is no longer a thing among red pill men, good for you. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 06:04 PM
1

I've been given many definitions of it, for sure! What is the definition you are using?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 06:00 PM
1

a, it's an obstacle I'm prepared to deal with. b, by the time he's 40 or so, and he's in the trades, he's good enough to command at least those rates. Don't believe me? Hire a plumber.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 05:45 PM
1

I would genuinely love for you to have someone who is suited to you, but you're right about the maths doing themselves. So I will be content with "fits enough of the bill that we can get along". :) But I think 40K in this area is a fair wage, that's about $20/hour at 40 hours or $23/hour at 35. It's not not doable and it will go a long way in this city. I'm genuinely not asking for the moon in that respect. I'm asking for mutual survival.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 05:29 PM
1

I think it's a little bold to assume that men have been passing down red pill knowledge through the generations, or that the red pill advocates treating women well. All the red pill has shown me about "treating women well" is paying for things and treating us like children. Is there more about what women want that it has to offer?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 05:27 PM
1

I like faces with character. I have to be able to imagine kissing them. 😀 This is a learning curve thing. It is kind of a conservative region, too. Like... the city is a blue dot, but the suburbs are purple to red.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 04:09 AM
1

You're right. I do have additional standards: no kids (I don't want any, I don't want to date dads) and no conservatives. The rest, I suppose, is me being picky about whether their face fits. I suppose I really can't complain that hard. I'm reaching out and messaging the ones I like as soon as I notice we've matched (I need to go into my phone settings and mess with the push notifications). And yeah, I know it could easily be that I'm not a lot of people's cup of tea, because I'm a liberal and a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 04:00 AM
3

You know what? You're right, I'm doing that thing again where I think I'm in a bad place and I'm not. I have matched with some of the kind I'm looking for. I'm being pessimistic because these guys are probably out having fun, and swiped on me while they were browsing at the bar. I'm spoiled because I think they should have dropped everything to chat with me, and they're not doing that, they're being normal. So, maybe they'll get back to me when [edit:] they have a minute.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 03:57 AM
1

Right, so slim women who prefer to stay close to home and talk about interesting things should be bored out of our fucking minds on a fishing boat somewhere with a fat guy who's draining our finances? That takes the cake.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 03:27 AM
3

Luck has not been on my side
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 03:26 AM
1

But it's still not all men. So...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 12:20 AM
2

Do you mean all men all the time when you say "men"?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 12:11 AM
2

If you know you're not what he's describing, then why do you care? Is it okay for women to be gold diggers?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 11:58 PM
2

Oh. Murder, yes, definitely one that improved with age.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 11:44 PM
2

Hit dogs holler. I know that he isn't talking about me. I know what kind of woman he means. Do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 11:44 PM
2

Then we can make it from scratch. Feminism without compassion is nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 11:42 PM
2

The one generalization I'll make is that generalizations are wrong, which is paradoxical, yes, but also what I believe. I think feminism is in trouble, if it can't find its compassion.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 11:12 PM
2

That's not hate by a long shot. It's just not worship.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 11:09 PM
2

I think you may actually be the flip side of this coin, though? Labelling an entire gender "pathological liars" doesn't make you look particularly hinged.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 11:05 PM
1

Because I am red pilled I know what she needs In a relationship and I meet her needs willingly. I would much prefer a man who knew what I needed in a relationship because he trusted me to tell him. Not "because he's red-pilled".
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 10:59 PM
2

He'll be hot when he's grey
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 10:45 PM
1

She picks 1, I pick 2. He's presenting at a gala? That's hot. 1 is a schlub.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 10:45 PM
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Why do so many women seem reluctant to acknowledge that they have a built-in advantage in dating, even if the quality of their suitors isn't always ideal? Is it because acknowledging that would invalidate their legitimate frustrations? It's that one. When I'm dating men, I want the frustration acknowledged. It's not that I don't know men are having a hard time of it, and I'm not lying back and waiting to be picked by any means. However, I do get stroppy when I'm unable to find what I'm looking f…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 09:44 PM
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Come back in a year, the stats will have changed
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 12:53 AM
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This has to be the strangest question I've yet seen on PPD
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 12:52 AM
5

It's hard to be logical about the wound when it's still bleeding. Heal first, talk about ways to not get wounded again once you're healed.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 06:27 PM
1

The relevant part here is that Jesus wouldn't say anything that contradicted God. And it's in Jesus that we find a lot of the home truths of Christianity.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 05:28 PM
1

It's a lot more complicated than that, and if you are genuinely interested in finding out, not just scoring points in an argument, there are better resources than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 04:24 PM
3

So, a SF/F/horror fanboy lecturing someone who could be reading anything from history to short stories? Your genre choices are narrower than hers. I would produce shots of my own bookshelves, but I would also hate to disturb the household at 1 AM. I'll tell you what, though: even the ancients were just gossiping.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 05:00 AM
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Far from sabotaging me, the words of Christ -- not Paul, not any of the ancient fathers -- remind me that love is the highest law, because according to Jesus there are two commandments: love God with all your heart and love your neighbor as yourself. That is the core of the message. The rest is window dressing. I feel an intense pity for you that you seem to think you know anything about Christianity without knowing that. You've missed the best, most important part. You've missed the whole point…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 04:49 AM
2

You are free to continue in ignorance of what I actually believe, then.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 04:42 AM
1

You don't get to tell me I'm doing my own faith wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 04:39 AM
2

I said Bible Jesus, not Supply Side Jesus.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 03:56 AM
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You don't even know what the Gospels are, Raven. I'd say you've lost this one. I'm a Christian, not a Paulist. Paul was also writing in a very specific context, that of the early church trying to find its footing in precarious times for Christians. The man had hangovers from pre-Jesus traditions.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 03:52 AM
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also, I believe I asked you in particular to back up your claims. So: Gospels. Men providing and protecting. Go, Raven. Fetch.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 03:44 AM
1

...I read the Bible every day, that doesn't mean all parts apply to all situations at once, what kind of Christian doesn't understand that?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 03:43 AM
3

There are words for women who trade gold for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 03:38 AM
2

Show me the part in the Gospel -- you know, the words of Jesus -- where he says any of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 03:37 AM
1

Redpill/manosphere interviewer ask woman her standard in men, and the woman is perceived as unattractive or just not attractive enough for her standards by the interviewer->The man then asks what the woman brings to the table to show her delusion and maybe get her to understand her standards are unrealistic. Her mistake lies in not walking away from the question, tbh. No podcast bro in the history of podcasts has ever asked it in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 12:43 AM
3

Leave Jesus out of it, nothing about him has anything in common with conservatism and the patriarchy [edited to add] Bible Jesus, not Supply-Side Jesus
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 12:06 AM
2

God forbid there be a paywall to legacy, intimacy, or generational return on investment. Uh... do you... intend to charge your future lover for intimacy?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 11:59 PM
1

porque no los dos?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 01:53 PM
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Sir, you do realise that you can't just nut in a woman and call it "sperm donation", you could be on the hook for a lot of child support by now
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 01:49 PM
1

Barney, I literally used subculture in my last reply to you. I know what a subculture is, and also again, you can stop condescending to me. It's rude af. I'm not willing to date a manosphere guy -- because he chose that. Generally, you don't choose your ethnicity or the culture you were born into.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 12:27 AM
3

Sometimes I hear complaints that women think of men as money machines. Maybe feeling "masculine" is an excuse given out to justify men paying for things, and not actually a good reason not to be egalitarian.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 07:45 PM
1

ITT: a lot of people making a lot of alarming leaps to conclusions about the OP's question
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 07:33 PM
3

Wait, why should she not contribute according to her means if her income rises? I would.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 07:31 PM
2

Maybe they have ambitions that aren't tied to capitalism, Becky.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 06:53 PM
1

So, I am aware there are a variety of ethnic groups within Afghanistan, but I'm not the one here dismissing them out of hand. You are. You're saying "Afghan passport? Oop, he's gonna beat you" like you know better than any other White woman. "Manosphere" is not a culture. Do not insult someone who was actually raised with one foot in two different cultures and nations by implying that it comes past "niche subculture" at best. So ignorant smh.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 06:52 PM
3

I basically just want to live a normal life and he can bank his extra savings. I keep my job, I contribute, he contributes. I don't want the expectation that I'll suddenly upgrade my life beyond what I could sustain if he left me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 05:30 PM
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I'm not looking for someone rich because their lifestyles tend to be far, far different from mine, and I'm not interested. I live within my means and am content with what I have and what I am. My ex made six figures and was constantly travelling, talking about his second home on Grand Cayman, bitching about redoing his kitchen... there is nothing relatable about that for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 05:15 PM
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a, I don't know the guy that posts here, so how do I know whether I'd date him, and b, manosphere is not a whole-ass ethnicity with its own traditions, so you can stop with the false comparisons.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 04:56 PM
0

Bigotry and talking down to me? Smashing combination. Normal Afghan men exist. Some of them have immigrated to the United States, even, because they didn't agree with the Taliban. Many acted as translators during the Forever War. I can't believe I have to explain this.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 04:17 PM
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Fine, it was extremely fucking prejudiced of you to assume what you did. And no better than racism.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 01:06 PM
1

If they were using "career-oriented" as a euphemism for "makes more than enough money to provide for the household", yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 11:09 PM
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On PPD? "High-achieving" women would do the trick if I were male
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 11:03 PM
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I can separate "high-achieving" from "high-earning", for a start, so... no. I think someone who achieves a comfortable standard for themselves should expect their partner not to drain their finances. And that's about the level of expectation I feel is fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 11:01 PM
1

And what noble ambition does she have, that she makes so much money? Come on, let's lionize the rich together. It's so much fun. Yay capitalist pigs.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 10:46 PM
1

And why's that, if he isn't a drain on her finances?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 10:41 PM
1

Why can't you be happy with "satisfying career" alone? It's his money, not yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 10:39 PM
1

Jesus, that was racist of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 10:35 PM
1

Define "success".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 10:35 PM
1

Given cost of living, and my position on that scale, gainful employment at my wage or slightly better (so, somewhere around $50K) would be great, but I'd take gainful employment at my wage ($40K) provided he was conscious of his spending.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 10:34 PM
4

Just the older ones? Gen Z is just as talented as whining about the lack of provider men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 10:33 PM
1

But true. Family Court doesn't let hookups opt out of fatherhood and that's essentially what he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 10:26 PM
2

Tell her if she doesn't go with an artificial insemination, the "donor" can come after her for custody
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 10:24 PM
0

This is what that person was on about, upthread. Blaming people for not being able to tell someone was a bad idea until it was too late? That's terrible behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 10:02 PM
2

what's stopping me is that idek where to begin in terms of a profile -- I rarely if ever take selfies, no-one photographs me... there are profile help subs but "help me write the damn thing in the first place" subs?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 09:56 PM
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You, ah, kinda brought the spectre of that argument into the discussion, my man
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 09:53 PM
1

Awww, I love extended families <3
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 06:38 PM
2

I had a fully sexually active six-year relationship under my parents' noses, they did not care and nobody shamed each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 05:20 PM
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Depends on his relationship with them. If they're good with each other, then I'm good with it. The more family, the better, IMO. Especially since I still live with my parents out of choice (besties!).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 05:18 PM
1

Not around here, you can do very well on 70K
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 04:45 PM
1

Depending on your flavour of religious, past early 20s they are all married, Christian nationalist whackjobs, or... both
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 03:04 PM
2

That's why we provide safe guards like student housing We don't, for a lot of people. They're out on their own. So...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 03:02 PM
2

r/thathappened
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 02:32 PM
4

Or what if the 18-year-old can handle her shit around grown men? The women -- and it's usually women -- of PPD never give young women the credit they may be due. I'd have been furious if someone tried to tell me I was too young to be an actual adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 02:26 PM
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Awful naive of you to think all 18-year-olds live in student housing. Or even go to college. Also, I have some sad news for you if you think the system is any more inclined to offer protection than anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 02:25 PM
2

oh gosh!!! Mazel tov to you and the new parents!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 09:05 PM
1

I liked the internet better before both of these, ngl
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 08:09 PM
1

Can't people just be fucking normal omfg
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 07:53 PM
3

we need a non-whackjob HHS secretary who will fix this, oh my goodness
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 05:20 PM
3

What is the DINK lifestyle other than literally "two people making money and not having kids"? Do they expect to travel all the time (unrealistic for most working Americans), live high on the hog (in how much debt?)...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:43 PM
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That thing is a little meh for me. I put in 39-60, not married, min height 5'3", not obese, min salary $40K, and it gave me 3/5. Leads me to wonder what they're using for "not obese" and where they're pulling their stats. Dad bod is "not obese", for example. Do they account for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:33 PM
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100% this. Entitlement doesn't look good on anyone. Having preferences is one thing, having entitlement is another.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:24 PM
1

Where do you suggest I go to spread it, then?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 03:10 AM
2

They ought to. I got myself kicked off TwoX; I'm not going to be a part of that discourse on Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 03:10 AM
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Hey, feminism told women we were equal to you. Not my fault if there are feminists not following that through to its logical conclusion, to hold up their responsibilities as well as agitate for their rights. With rights come responsibilities. My foremothers earned me the right to help get bread for my family -- so it is my responsibility to do so. If Karen and Becky don't like it, piss on 'em.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 12:54 AM
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In fairness, I judge them too if they're there by choice. I just don't think it's a great idea or a healthy form of validation to pursue.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 11:42 PM
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Women much more likely to judge women or guys for doing porn, onlyfans, stripping, modeling, escorting. Clearly you have never watched an episode of Whatever. If you think those guys are totally cool with the SWs they have on, whooooooeeeee
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 11:39 PM
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Well, we have feminism now, so women don't get to complain if they have to provide. Them's the breaks.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 11:37 PM
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It's fine if men opt out of things that feel soul-sucking, if they would rather not be obliged to provide. I watched my dad go the soul-sucking route instead of the route that would have suited him all along and that is what broke him. He wasn't meant for IT, he was meant for social work, and the irony is it would have been more stable and paid better.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 11:32 PM
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I think people period aren't socialized to make the best educational decisions, at least in the US. Parents push their children, guidance counselors, schools, to say nothing of the marketing departments of colleges/universities. If I had known that I could go into the human services and use that degree earlier than about the age of 25, if anyone had thought it would be a worthwhile use of my talents (as opposed to what would make my parents and my high school look the best on paper), I would hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 09:45 PM
4

Wishlisting that book, ta very much
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 09:32 PM
17

Consider that a joke needs to be funny to both people sharing it. Otherwise it's just sparkling negging.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 02:43 AM
2

The Bitch King actually has me nailed. Oh, the pain of being perceived, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 04:44 PM
1

I bear witness for times like the ones I'm witnessing in the US right now. It's 1933 in Münich, basically. Mum and I are both shaken by the ease with which we can make these comparisons. If I had my way, world history would cover three years in American high schools, not two. Or we'd go a little lighter on the ancients and the forever wars of the 1500-1800 period in favour of the lessons of today, and just yesterday, and maybe the week before that, comparatively speaking. What we think are the m…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 06:18 AM
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Four people died. Four. And seventeen were injured. I hate to tell you what men in the United States have been up to over the last few years. But then I'm not going to oblige myself any further with you. Go in grace, and may something or someone have mercy on you in the final reckoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 03:35 AM
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I feel a responsibility to carry the stories forward because my generation bridges the gap between those who lived it and those who never will. I feel an obligation to bear witness. This I have done since the age of nine. Which was thirty years ago, so much closer to the end of the war than most women here! Thank you for your kindness about Opa. You might have liked him, poor gentle soul that he was. He gardened and collected stones all the rest of his life. I was proud of him. The workhouses in…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 03:32 AM
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Because demonizing people is flat wrong? I'm trying to tell you that what women do is flat wrong. That it's unconscionable to declare an entire gender lost. I'm also trying to build a better world, not a crapsack one in which we are all going to suffer for our hatred. You want a world in which hatred is extended, not love. That's literally against my religion. So I will never stop trying to love the world better. You can't make me agree with you, no matter how often you pull out the "I'm in a wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 02:05 AM
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At least you're not claiming what isn't yours, then. But mind that you're talking to someone who has had to reckon her whole life with what her people did. That's why I scream at people who seem to be taking it lightly. Because the lesson is never going to leave me. I'm always going to have the concentration camp dreams. I'm always going to know that if I had lived then, my family would've had to hide me because I would've been killed under the eugenics policies. I thank God that my family was f…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 02:01 AM
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There is no point in talking to you. Play the martyr all you want. I desperately hope you are actually an Irish person from Ireland and not one of those tremendously sad "my great-granny came over sometime in the early 1900s" Irish-Americans. I talk about the Holocaust because my mother took field trips to fucking Dachau in order to learn the gravity of what her parents' and grandparents' generations did. I have actual skin in the "not taking the Holocaust lightly" game.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 01:18 AM
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Because he's a complex figure caught up in a complex time? Caught between Rome and England (Wolsey and Henry). He had a giant household for which to provide, and he was a good dad and uncle by all accounts. He was a case of "did my best, still got kicked up the arse by the boss".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 12:48 AM
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I'm asking you how in the hell less empathy makes it better. If you want accountability, you can ask for that. You can ask for women not to hate, and for women not to be criminals. But touch grass -- that's really not even "enough women". How many do you encounter in your everyday offline life that are like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 12:46 AM
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She's a nutbar. You really think she's representative of even all German women, let alone all women? That's a problem on your end, friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 11:59 PM
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So, all we've arrived at is "terrible fucking things have occurred". At this point we'll have to agree to disagree, I guess. You're not changing my mind on Thomas fucking Cromwell and I'm never going to accept that what happened to the Irish was somehow worse than either the Holocaust or the genocide of the Indigenous -- bloody worldwide.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 11:58 PM
1

So... stripping women of empathy, "humbling" all women in order to target the truly arrogant ones, that helps everyone how? All I can think of is that women would be more likely to become violent and even more hate-filled.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 11:52 PM
2

Thank you. Well, I hope things change. I'll work for positive change. That much I can promise.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 11:41 PM
2

Well, unlike the Church of England, the Irish Catholics perpetrated untold abuses on women -- or are you ignorant yet of the Magdalene Laundries? I could be upset with the Irish about that. Oh! Oh, if we're doing Catholics, how about the entire Doctrine of Discovery? That was pretty genocide-a-riffic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 11:39 PM
2

I would choose the man. You would be free to choose the tree, incidentally, and I would not take offense.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 11:37 PM
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A subset of women are taught that men are evil. This is on par with women mistaking incels for all men and just about as accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 11:32 PM
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That's not going to help anyone. It's just not. I realise you're generalising from a select group of spoiled Western women you think represent all women, so I forgive you. But you must learn to look beyond that bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 11:31 PM
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Has it occurred to you that I don't agree with you on Thomas Cromwell's culpability for all the sins of the English? I laid out what was happening in Henry's court. Unlike Hitler's milieu, they weren't exactly enthusiastic about the need to placate Henry. They were surviving him.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 11:30 PM
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You're clearly experiencing some form of major residual ancestral trauma over what happened to the Irish. That doesn't raise what happened to the Irish to nearly the same level as what happened to the Jews (and everyone ELSE the Nazis persecuted for the crime of not being Aryan: one understands the total is some nine to ten million dead, and how many more displaced, from how many nations?). You haven't had the kind of education I have and it shows. Do better or sit down and be quiet.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 10:59 PM
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Dana, look at his flair, though. You're not going to get anywhere. Neither am I.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 10:55 PM
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Never encourage a woman to think creatively about the many ways she can turn her environment deadly for her abuser.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 10:54 PM
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The instant stripping of women's rights might actually embolden them to contemplate violence. It certainly wouldn't put them/us back in our rightful place, wherever you think that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 10:52 PM
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I think there's not enough empathy. I think women could be a lot more empathetic toward men. The answer, to me, is never less love, more hate. That only breeds even more hate and misery.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 10:50 PM
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I'm truly sorry for what happened to your ancestors. There is no excuse for it. That said, I'm not going to change my flair, or my understanding of history. And I'm not going to compare what happened during the Tudor period to what happened in Nazi Germany. That was on a scale more akin to what happened to the Indigenous peoples of the Americas, except systematised for extra cruelty.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 10:47 PM
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Oliver was a shithead, yes. Thomas (and the entirety of Henry VIII's court) was at the mercy of a man who took one too many blows to the head and was Not Entirely Well most of the time. They were all trying to stay alive. Not easy. Henry spearheaded the schism from the Church of England, mainly so he could schtupp Anne Boleyn within wedlock, gaining him the son she completely failed to produce.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 10:22 PM
1

the Dissolution of the Monasteries was not a genocide, twerp
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 09:52 PM
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And? Does anything lie beneath that? Would you care to more carefully examine your rather flippant invocation of the Holocaust?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 09:27 PM
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Mate. Those... those were war crimes. Genocide. Extraordinary circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 08:40 PM
3

Well, what are you expecting, then? Ugly women to get princess treatment? That assumes we're the kind of people who even seek it out -- we would be doing things to become at least average if we did want that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 05:13 PM
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Truth. I'll continue being A Romantic, and people who are not can go on their merry. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 05:07 PM
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And for what it's worth, I think it's shitty of a woman to keep people around just for emotional validation, knowing that they are interested in her romantically. Set them free, ladies.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 05:06 PM
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Women are the submissive, passive sex, and enjoy being treated like warm fuck meat. Their sexual mores are very reactive and mostly dictated by social molding. A fact reflected in how nearly every woman that goes to college decides she’s bisexual for a year or two. Is there a meaningful reference for that set of "facts", or...?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 05:01 PM
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I am acknowledged by men. I am approached with a smile, not shied away from as if I will hurt someone. People are genuinely pleased to see me when they're thrown into social situations with me. Maybe I am not quite ugly enough to understand the plight of a truly ugly woman, but I am missing teeth and that does become apparent when I smile. (Fucking American healthcare that treats specifically these little bones as insignificant/charges through the nose to fix them...)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 04:59 PM
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Then I pray I am never in the position to find out, because I am genuinely horrified at the prospect of suddenly only caring about the superficial.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 04:48 PM
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would opt for a toothless person living in a trailer park as long as they had a "kind heart." That's a bit ad absurdum, isn't it? There are legions between Stacy and Cletus. I'm not going to pretend I'm some altruistic angel. Goodness knows I wouldn't turn down the best I could get, if I loved him and he loved me. But there's the point: love should be the main factor, not a transaction (sex for money, money for the soft life). And love is hard to explain. I'm not talking about attraction -- I me…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 04:44 PM
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The goal, of course, would be to be needed for both: sexual and emotional. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 04:27 PM
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My, you're a ray of sunshine, aren't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 02:49 AM
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It's not accurate to the degree this sub thinks, though. The gender roles alone play hell with comparisons.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 01:09 AM
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That's not actually the same tho? What makes a bisexual man somehow sluttier than a straight man?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 10:29 PM
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You seemed awfully confident in your assertions about age gaps. But you and I were raised very differently, it would appear. If you're going to fall back on the notion that it's some kind of first world privilege, great! You can speak for women in developing countries, and I will speak for women with first world privilege. Or is the POV only valid when it agrees with yours?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 09:47 PM
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Then stop telling first world women what to do. Problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 09:03 PM
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Maybe for you, but I remember guys around my age having just as many problems as guys who were older.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 08:44 PM
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My dad didn't need to, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 08:44 PM
2

So. Age of consent being 18... how do you feel about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 08:35 PM
2

She was the problem. Be assured of that. Oh my days.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 08:34 PM
3

so, about that 18-year-old doing OnlyFans, you're fine with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 08:31 PM
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Ma'am, I'm half-American and half-German and my parents had no such hangups. They raised me to hold my own in the adult world by the time I was eighteen. Sorry you didn't have that experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 08:29 PM
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No lie, someone on this subreddit has suggested to me that the age of consent should not be 18, it should be higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 08:27 PM
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Oy vey, what White people have done on Turtle Island is miserable, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 07:08 PM
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It is rather pointless to discriminate by gender. I wouldn't say outlaw - I don't trust the government to get this right.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 07:04 PM
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Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 06:14 PM
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Show me where you got those numbers? Like I said, I'm not paying to access the document. But searching for "men's domestic violence shelters" brings up a LOT -- so, if the answer really is "only two shelters take men", I'm wondering why so many shelters are like "actually, we will help any survivor"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 06:14 PM
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https://medium.com/@info_6724/dv-shelters-exclusively-for-men-fathers-and-their-children-2024-ce1e916ab8ce I am not paying to access this, but it seems to be a resource you could pay to access if you were in need. I hope you never need it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 05:56 PM
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Am I Google?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 05:27 PM
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By all means, show me where these fabulous government-run shelters are.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 05:23 PM
1

...I'm looking at what it is people wore as well, and what parts of the body were emphasized.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 04:47 PM
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I was always there to talk about their day, their problems - I wanted to understand them, to be their actual partner. How were your exes net negatives?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 04:45 PM
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Actually, this would be a refreshing change for me. Most of them have wanted what I had to give sexually, not emotionally. I'd like to be needed on an emotional level.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 02:51 PM
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Hourglass figures have not always been the standard. This has in fact varied throughout history, which you would know if you paid attention to the art of any given period.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 02:50 PM
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The government doesn't run shelters. I'm sorry to have to disabuse you of that notion.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 02:32 PM
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Even in the United States, where we haven't used the draft in 50 years, young men are still required to sign up for it. The government makes them agree to terms that basically state "we can rob you of your freedom and bodily autonomy at any moment and force you to go die in a war". One, abolish the draft. Two, vote for the people who are less likely to start or continue wars.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 02:31 PM
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Why do women unmarried and without kids work lesser hours? I work the same hours as everyone else with my job. My company being humane is not a privilege issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 02:28 PM
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JK Rowling is a terrible example. She's been outright transphobic in public. Bernie Sanders: fair, and also unfair to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 02:16 PM
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In this case, it's more like you're saying "all men are violent" and the men are trying to respond with "not all men, I personally am not".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 02:13 PM
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I don't think either women OR men are a monolith in that respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 02:09 PM
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Exactly! I dumped a guy because our levels of financial risk-taking were incompatible. We were relatively on the same level in terms of income, but he was living so close to the bone that it made me nervous. It takes an actual bankruptcy to begin to change that kind of behaviour in someone. (I've witnessed this.)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 02:07 PM
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Applying the norms of non-straight relationships to straight relationships is usually an exercise in futility, yes! But I don't see that happening nearly as often as straight people trying to impose THEIR norms.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 01:52 PM
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That's shallow AF, sis. No-one but you is responsible for improving your life monetarily.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 01:48 PM
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Then why are you yelling at us about it? If we're the ones who are least likely to exploit you for resources, surely there is a better place you could advocate for healthier dating practices?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 01:47 PM
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the majority of women I've met it means less about earning more and more about being responsible with the income you do have. Please shout this louder. From the rooftops, preferably.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 01:46 PM
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Then I'll provide for me and he can do what he likes with his money, fair?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 01:44 PM
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[gets out soapbox] Straight people NEED to stop trying to apply heteronormative gender roles to queer relationships. Queer relationship dynamics are different. Go read "Stone Butch Blues" if you want half a clue about butches.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 01:39 PM
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Ugh, fair. I'm sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 02:18 PM
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Date other demisexuals? :)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 06:35 PM
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Honestly, if you told me these kids' parents had been hardcore into purity culture around the time I Kissed Dating Goodbye came out, I wouldn't be shocked
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 01:10 AM
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[dead, dead, dead]
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 12:50 AM
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Rumour has it Stephen Hawking even ran around on his wife well after the MND set in O.O
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 12:42 AM
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exactly??? like... okay, there's short and then there's "something went wrong in this person's physical development", and I have tried to have the hots for little people but no go
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 12:29 AM
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Be the one to approach and ask men out. I enjoy this. I like doing the picking, actually. Pay for dates (when they make more money) It's hard getting by on my income in my city. I'm unlikely to vibe with the kind of guy who makes less money. That said, I don't means-test paying for dates, I just pull out my wallet. If he wants to pay, and it makes him feel good, I let him. If he would prefer I paid for myself, I have no problem doing that. Date a man less educated than them. Date a man who makes…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 12:18 AM
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If it's so bad here, why are so many women here?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 11:59 PM
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that tracks
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 11:41 PM
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...ilu and all, but Eve is generally credited with original sin given she tempted Adam
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 11:41 PM
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Well, I've always secretly been a Boomer, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 08:49 PM
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I know a chronically unemployed man who is 400 lbs and begs the women in his life for money. When he does get a job, he can't hold it. He is unsurprisingly doing nothing to mend this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 07:27 PM
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Whyever not? Feminism didn't absolve us of our responsibility to society. Whoever says that it does has no grasp of what it means to be under the social contract.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 07:23 PM
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For me, pretty much yeah. I mean, what should a woman be if not responsible for herself? It's like the phrase "pull up yer big girl panties". Remember that you are an adult, with adult responsibilities to yourself and others.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 06:21 PM
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You told me to take responsibility for myself and my emotions and not blame everyone BUT myself for what I'm feeling. At least IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 06:18 PM
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High divorce rates don't necessarily stem from rank assholery. For my part, I have fewer qualms about levelling with my partners and agreeing to part amicably. I don't need to stay partnered to be happy, so I'll put up with much less than a straight woman might. I also never wanted kids, which I grant you is not a straight vs queer thing, so part of my interpretation might well be coming from that. It's mostly about throwing out the straight rulebook and making our own rules about what a good re…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 06:10 PM
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Straight men and queer men tend to be very different people. So, for that matter, do queer women and straight women. I experience this every time I try to date a man -- I'm confronted with the things that come with being queer by both socialization and birth. A lot of straight women are socialized to accept things from a partner that a queer woman has socialized out of her, which to me explains the divorce rates among lesbians. Just an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 05:31 PM
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If you don't understand that two women together/two men together won't work the same as a man and a woman together, idk what to tell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 05:24 PM
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Spoken like the straightest person alive. Straight relationships look different from queer ones; the gender dynamics alone speak to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 04:01 PM
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The first step in becoming a viable partner for someone else is good faith. Probably the pervasive "women/men lie" is why the sexes have grown so far apart. The second step is not woe-is-meing all over the place.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 04:47 AM
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Use a dental dam, then?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 04:03 AM
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Careful, this is PPD. If you say "settle" within earshot of a man, he'll start wailing about how she really wants Chad. But almost all of them can experience being a catalyst for their orgasm at least once in their lives. You have to want to kiss the person first, yes? What's out there when you get into Dorothy's age range is... interesting. What's out there even just in my age range is... interesting. Over 35, it's not so much chlorine in the dating pool as Agent Orange.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 04:01 AM
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Sure, Jan
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 03:58 AM
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At my age? Only if he's Father Ralph de Bricassart.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 03:58 AM
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No, just yourself. You contribute to the household expenses as you're able. The other person the same. Each person covers their personal expenses. Generally people work together to create budgets and decide what's fair to each to give. And as to the last time I saw that kind of relationship -- my parents live it out for me daily.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 03:51 AM
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What if, in this case, the "cel" is an inability to get the thing they want? For a male incel, it's sex; for a female incel, it's commitment from a man who meets her standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 03:46 AM
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I think it is a combination of the violence and the yas-queening that goes on. Honestly, we don't hold ourselves to standards because to some people, standards feel like oppression. I mean, I hold myself to standards -- I didn't even date for nine years because I wasn't where I wanted to be (volcel/nun mode). But some women do believe they are entitled to the partner of their choice without being what said partner might want for themselves, and I resent that attitude because honestly it makes th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 03:45 AM
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She's telling you her truth as in what she has personally experienced. Men aren't lazy losers as a gender. Are some men? Absolutely. So are some women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 03:38 AM
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So then why is the divorce rate for lesbians shockingly high, while the lowest rate is for gay male marriages? I hate to have to point out what should be obvious, but people who are not queer and married have no clue what queer marriage dynamics are like and should probably not be using queer marriages to score points when talking about straight people's behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 03:14 AM
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You can be two people providing for yourselves individually. It is doable.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 03:11 AM
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Agreed 100% with everything you've said. Unfortunately, the career I've chosen is inherently low-pay, but I don't expect to be supported either during a marriage or after it ends, if it should end, so it's prenup town for me, esp. since I am expecting to come into assets that I don't want parted out in case of divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 03:09 AM
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She's trying to tell her truth. She even followed it up with "I can't really speak for the rest of the population".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 03:00 AM
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I would say it should always BE the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 02:07 AM
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I shouldn't, in fairness, engage after about 10 PM or compline, whichever comes earlier. Nothing good happens after 10 PM.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 02:14 PM
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Apartment and a stable job, yes. That would be good.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 02:11 PM
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My, but the hot air in here is stifling.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 05:29 AM
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Got any more hot takes?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 05:26 AM
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OP is not suggesting women filter for suitable partners, here. He's suggesting that men who have pipe dreams are suitable partners, and deserve to be supported (financially, sexually) by hapless women who don't deserve men who have bothered to make something of themselves first. If I had to make something of myself in order to put myself out there as dating material, so does he.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 05:18 AM
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That's a mother's advice to her son... a king. Clearly not a man who actually needs his queen to toil for him. Prooftexting is vile.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 05:15 AM
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Equal support for equal effort being put into our mutual survival.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 04:24 AM
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Get a degree and fucking well teach them for a wage
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 04:03 AM
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I'm never going to date someone because of their potential. At my age, they have to have manifested something. I'm thirty bloody nine, and I like them older than I am, so if by forty at least he hasn't managed to make something of himself, I really despair that he ever will.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 04:03 AM
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God forbid I should want an equal partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 04:01 AM
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From your lips to God's ears! I would truly love to not be in such dire straits!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 04:00 AM
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Do tell. What's he doing? Given that we've established elsewhere that he's probably not founding a whole new government.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 02:42 AM
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Well, young men aren't likely to be... drafting a whole new Constitution (which the US may need by 2028) and men who are old enough to be about that are also probably men with an employment history, who will be going back to their jobs/professions once the altruistic task is done. This is about as based in reality as every single dream I've had about seducing Dr. Abrams from Chicago Med.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 02:37 AM
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That may have worked for Marc Antony but most of these guys are not him
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 02:33 AM
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What even is this mystical feminine influence? And isn't it masculine to be supporting a man? If you believe in that kind of horse puckey.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 02:31 AM
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Wait, are you seriously comparing modern-day hobosexuals to Alexander Hamilton?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 02:27 AM
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Flair never more applicable, except in reverse :D
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 02:26 AM
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I've no interest in a man with his head so in the clouds that he ignores the practical. Not sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 02:25 AM
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Well, if those aren't weasel words, I don't know what are. Feminine influence? How in the heck?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 02:24 AM
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So if he can't provide for himself, I'm supposed to have faith that someday he'll pull his own weight?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 02:22 AM
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How are we supposed to know he's got all this potential? What if his potential never manifests?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 01:45 AM
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She was an actual child. I don't care if she derived pleasure from it, those men are rapists and if you condone their behaviour, you're no better.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 01:35 AM
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But why do you care what they do as long as they're not pestering you for sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 12:13 AM
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For what it's worth, not everyone. I say go and find your own groove. Make your own kind of music. Be a literal monk if you want. Monks are cool. I don't get society's obsession with people partnering up. Like... it's okay to be a spinster or a bachelor. If people do drop out, what's it to anyone else?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 12:11 AM
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Broke people should perhaps consider the optics of dating people who are not broke. I didn't date when I was broke because I knew that people who were not broke would consider me gold-digging at best. I'm sorry, but I want a partner who will not need to turn to me for their basic needs to be met. I want, in other words, a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 06:23 PM
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There's broke and there's broke. I like the kind who are capable of paying, but recognise that going 50/50 establishes a dynamic where we are both responsible for ourselves. The ones who genuinely can't afford to date should maybe get their lives together first.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 04:49 PM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/AITAH/comments/1gmisqe/aitah_for_joking_about_when_my_mom_used_to_whoop/
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 04:42 PM
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At the end of the day if its this big of an issue the woman probably shouldnt be having kids anyways At which point the entirety of the US throws up its hands and laments that women aren't having kids! You cannot win for losing as a parent. By the way: English is one of my two first languages. When you grow up speaking two, three if you count the dialect out separately, plus the English you do speak is an English that has accumulated parts of all of the Englishes (there are many!) -- a sentence …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 04:06 AM
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You can't even comprehend what I said. The formula is to determine the amount of child support and who pays it. You're saying that's somehow irrelevant... except it absolutely is, because it's society that has put women in the position of usually being the ones on the receiving end of the formula. We're the ones you shift out of the workforce in order to mind the children; we're the ones interrupted in our careers; we're the ones who can never seem to make up the ground after the babies go to (v…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 03:18 AM
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You're overthinking things. Nine Hail Marys and an Our Father. Go in grace, my child.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 02:36 AM
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You were 15 in a post you made six months ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 02:34 AM
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That doesn't mean I'm risking what I have. What if he decides to get greedy? I'm not giving him what little is mine by right. Just as I don't want what's his.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 02:27 AM
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Ask yourself why a court, in this day and age when judges make determinations based on formulas, would continually find that its formulas result in a woman needing support.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 02:09 AM
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This sub should be 18+. OP needs to be doing normal teenager things, with normal teenagers, not regurgitating manosphere talking points. Where are his parents?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 01:20 AM
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As a woman who spent a year doing that, I can tell you I had to go through a serious rage period before getting my head back on straight -- and that I'm far from the first woman to document this phenomenon! Your entire self gets rearranged because we're so brainwashed to centre "the other gender" (if you believe there are only two). A certain amount of brain re-washing has to happen before clarity descends and men and women can coexist as just people, one of whom might happen to be romantically …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 01:10 AM
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Decentering women would, in a healthy way, just mean that a man lives his life to better himself, with the presence of women being natural and normal, like any other humans. That's how decentering men worked out for me. Sure, I'm a thirsty cow on Reddit, but offline I'm actually quite balanced regarding men. They're entire and whole and flawed and beautiful humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 01:06 AM
5

Or the dad getting cigarettes and beer. Dads do collect when the formulas dictate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 01:01 AM
18

live like men Live like equal human beings. I don't want to be a man, I just want bodily autonomy -- and when I had the chance, seized it with both hands.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 12:38 AM
4

Am woman, would insist on prenup -- why do you assume that women don't come into marriage without assets or expecting to gain assets that we would like to protect?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 12:26 AM
1

Spousal support is typically calculated on income -- and in a mediated divorce, which is the kind I deal in, is negotiable. The parties might choose other compensations (I don't pay spousal support if you get my equity in the house, for example). People get hosed when they litigate. I dunno what else to tell guys other than "don't litigate, mediate".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 12:22 AM
21

Just like the men who quit their jobs to avoid paying child support, fuck around will lead to find out, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 12:20 AM
14

It's capped according to income, and men have been known to quit their jobs in order to get out of paying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 12:17 AM
12

Source? Are you, in fact, someone who works in family law?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 12:16 AM
10

With men over 30. We call that statutory rape in most jurisdictions.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 06:56 PM
5

Not what I'm saying. What I am saying is that where one or more of these factors combine, you'll see a spike in pregnancies.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 05:55 PM
6

That's the OTHER problem: access. And the OTHER other problem: religious prohibitions on same.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 05:52 PM
8

They know enough to know it's not the stork, not enough to know how to prevent it or what acts lead to what.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 05:37 PM
3

Women who've managed to accumulate any wealth would be wise not to marry in the US at this time, given social trends. If they do so, they should be prepared for the state to seize their individual assets and declare that those belong to their husbands. Straight out of history. There's power in being feme sole.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 05:36 PM
1

Women who've managed to accumulate any wealth would be wise not to marry in the US at this time, given social trends. If they do so, they should be prepared for the state to seize their individual assets and declare that those belong to their husbands. Straight out of history. There's power in being feme sole.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 05:28 PM
7

his daughter has been behaving as an adult with men over thirty since she was 13. His daughter has been used by men over 30 since she was 13, let's not pretend that in a different world she would have willingly done any of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 05:26 PM
10

Incentive but not education, in many places.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 05:24 PM
5

Agreed. From the work I do, I know that the very best parents, the ones with the happiest children, are the ones who, despite being separated themselves, manage to co-parent as more or less one unit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 03:24 PM
3

Per OP's request: Some of us are childfree and prioritize romance over the hypothetical children we're not having. I don't know why OP wanted it here, because it does rather refute "all people who put romance over kids are horrible". But I obey.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 02:20 PM
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I mean, some of us are childfree and believe romance is much more important than the kids we're never having
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 02:15 PM
2

I needed to be in a family care setting, not some random lady's home. I needed my people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 12:23 PM
1

Hey, that's my line ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 02:42 AM
1

Spoken like someone who gets off easily, though!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 10:07 PM
1

[dead]
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 10:04 PM
1

I am all for telling someone what I want. There are, however, several basic moves that work? Like... you cannot be this ignorant of how to please the standard human woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 06:59 PM
1

Bring the costs down altogether. Why are athletes making that kind of money? Why is there that kind of money in, essentially, entertainment? No shit the US is too broke to take care of its people, it's too busy paying top dollar to see people play with balls.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 06:58 PM
1

You think women are going to turn down an orgasm?!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 06:54 PM
1

And I reserve mine for people who are going to care whether I'm getting something out of it. As do most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 06:34 PM
1

Selecting yourself out of the sex pool (I can hardly call that "dating")? Mmh, we hate to see it, but if you really want to be a selfish lover, you can learn how to make do with your hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 06:25 PM
1

Cut ALL the inflated salaries
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 06:23 PM
4

I wouldn't mind separate bedrooms if it was established from the word go that this was for sanity and sleep's sake -- but I would very much like cuddle nights, e.g. neither of us has to get up earlier than the other tomorrow, so the sleep will be fine if we're both there as opposed to me wanting to sleep as late as I can and him being up at some insane hour because he actually wants to drink coffee before hitting the road (for me, it's very much "get up, clothes on, hygiene, out the door"). Or w…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 03:01 PM
2

That's a hot take. My parents were so busy trying to provide all the needs of a family that of course I didn't get all my needs met. Hence the weakness in the nuclear family structure my mother's generation adopted. Had I been brought up in the bosom of the wider family, all of our needs would have been met. Rank individualism is to blame here. People need more people than just the pieces of a pair-bond to survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 02:09 PM
2

Okay, perhaps that's a little extreme. But surely a more extensive family system than two parents struggling to bring up a handful of kids would be nice to have...?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 02:05 PM
1

I could have phrased it better. I apologise.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 01:59 PM
1

I don't, as it happens. I'll ask around.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 02:17 AM
2

And this is when I point out that a pension system of any kind is a gamble that you will live long enough to enjoy your old age, and wouldn't it be nice to find some way to extend men's lifespans instead of punishing women for men's shitty health?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 02:15 AM
2

So you should look to the success of smaller communities that do follow these rules. What is the happiness among the Chasidim, for instance?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 02:13 AM
3

I meant for the arranged marriages for men. :D
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 12:18 AM
3

the collective future Maybe the future needs to be a lot more collective and a lot less individualist.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 12:16 AM
2

In Sweden, per capita, women pay 1.46 times less taxes than men, but receive 1.16 times more "pay-related transfers" gibbs, and 1.49 times "general and needs-tested allowances" gibbs. Childless women, too? Because here in the US, childless women get bupkis unless we're literally too infirm to function. Even then we have to use all our energy to fight for a bloody pittance from the government. And go into legal debt. Source: was too infirm to function for years, looked at the process for getting …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 12:14 AM
4

Where are you going to get the women?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 12:12 AM
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I actually like the idea of children being raised communally like the Shakers did it? Not as fond of the idea of segregating the genders and forbidding love between them, though. People who wanted to be lovers could have their own place in the community, without the loneliness of having to rear their children on their own with no help whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 12:06 AM
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Defend the country? If you want to still have a country, someone has to. So when there's another draft, draft able-bodied people (not men, people) between certain ages who are not yet married or parents. Then expand outward from there. Pay taxes? You want that country to run, right? Taxes benefit literally everyone, or do men not use roads or firefighters?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 12:03 AM
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Tear down the nuclear family so lauded by the Victorian middle-classes? I wouldn't cry too hard. My mother certainly didn't grow up in a nuclear family; her extended kin were an integral part of her life, the last generation so raised in my family, and that generation did well for itself. Unfortunately, since they're Boomers, when they married, they split off into nuclear families, and the resulting children are by and large choosing lives that are not that. It's like we figured out how much the…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 12:01 AM
4

None of that is normal O.O
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 06:52 PM
4

Just a bangmaid mommy then?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 05:00 PM
0

Eh, I do a lot of wondering why Hollywood pretty is so generic, which kind of makes it ugly to me. Their faces seem to lack all character.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 04:54 PM
0

You could always do Bachelor/ette brackets, if you could stand to lose the brain cells [edit] Actually, Love Island might work better?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 01:25 PM
6

the drunkest Creep behavior right there, boo
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 01:16 PM
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Except that attraction is subjective, and whatever this ELO score is, it cannot possibly account for all the factors that go into attraction. Yes, even physical attraction. You will simply need, someday, to accept that attraction is alchemy as much as anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 01:14 PM
6

Supporting :)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 01:37 AM
3

Fuckin' truth. This is why I kinda love being autistic. People forgive me a lot more of what is really just a racial tendency to be forthright (I am also German, for my sins).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 01:24 AM
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And for me, by and large it is not. 'course I'm apparently also much more European than American in my dating standards -- damn bicultural upbringing strikes again :D
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 01:22 AM
2

I mean, that's beyond the shadow of a doubt territory, that's valid
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 01:19 AM
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Capitalism has screwed the dating dynamic harder than certain Vice Presidents have been rumoured to screw couches. Suddenly everyone's putting a price tag on their courting time. Courtship can't be about the pure pleasure of each other's company?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 01:19 AM
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Yeah, but unlike the guy I was arguing with earlier, I'm pretty sure you also see a woman who goes 50/50 with you as a person and not another hole to fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 01:16 AM
2

When they clearly have no interest in me, and/or when the conversation is so tedious that it's obvious we are not going to hit it off. Your rules aren't unreasonable at all, as you're taking indicators that she is disinterested and/or juggling too many men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 01:05 AM
1

...okay, so you and I are definitely not defining interesting the same way, idgaf about gossip, please nerd at me about history though?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 10:01 PM
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Only the top of top of men can be expected to be interesting and not a chore to look at? That's telling on yerselves, my lad.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 08:02 PM
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I NEED LIKE BURNING
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 08:01 PM
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Now you know what it's like being a woman. If we want relationships, we have to find men that interest us, not just men who have functional penises and pleasant faces. Many men here don't care about average women, either, but we have more self-respect than libido, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 06:08 PM
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You aren't listening. Screw the money, I want to be people.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 06:06 PM
1

So... if you wouldn't date average readers... date above-average readers? It might encourage other women to broaden their horizons. Suddenly Becky, for all that she is a 6.5-7, drops to a 5 because she only reads cheap Harlequin crap. Make Becky get your mind hot before you fuck her.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 05:44 PM
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I don't want men's money, I want their fucking respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 05:18 PM
2

Women don't read nonfiction or watch documentaries? This is news to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 05:17 PM
4

Rumours that it was a hack job are just that, did you know? Most accounts closer to the event just say "yeah, took his head off"; it's the further out you get that the embellishments about needing three tries start to creep in.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 05:15 PM
1

And why are they worth it? Because they're pretty? I wouldn't sleep with a man who thinks the way you do if it would cure him of terminal cancer. Not even for money.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 04:52 PM
1

You are doing a terrible job making men seem like viable romantic partners, here.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 04:39 PM
1

So when we prove we aren't boring, what do you do? Does your dick just get massively confused?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 04:24 PM
1

It's like you can't fathom actively wanting to be around a whole human being if they aren't Stacy, which is sick and twisted. Please never ever complain about women being boring, if all you care about is looks -- excuse me, "value".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 04:19 PM
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We are on two different wavelengths here, clearly. I am a human being whose value lies in more than just sex. I don't want a man who focuses on how much free sex he can get without even seeing me as people.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:49 PM
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Oh, so you're too damn lazy even to spend effort on a person you like but who isn't Stacy? You've got the wrong pill there, friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:43 PM
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Uh... I just said I wouldn't charge? But I'm not going to have sex before I'm feelin' it, either, I'm not the whore in this conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:35 PM
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I wouldn't charge even if I could. That's not what I want out of a relationship. Could I? Debatable, but let's say there are men who would pay. Would I want them to view our time together as a transaction?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:30 PM
8

Indeed. Except I'm the widowed Mrs Tom, so really he can't complain ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:28 PM
0

Average men could raise their value just by expecting me to be interesting instead of just aesthetically pleasing. Make me bring something to the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:26 PM
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No more fat women unless you're a fat man, no more boring women, no more women with no hobbies or opinions of their own and no more women that think being insufferable means being empowered. I have zero problem with this, except that I might need some mild correction when I'm being insufferable instead of empowered.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:24 PM
6

We definitely can. Some women are just being very loud about not wanting to.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:20 PM
2

You can be a part of the solution and not take johns who are married.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:08 PM
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Some of us have sex that isn't transactional. You know, because we enjoy the other person's company.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:07 PM
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It comes rather from courtly love, which was an idealised romantic expression... often between people who were already married to other people, just flirting at Court for diversion.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:02 PM
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It actually has? I am not as intimidated or hung up about dating as I was; I'm not as precious. I've been encouraged to let whatever happen that will happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 11:35 PM
2

The bully: He was... a bully. He was mean. He presented himself as a humble single dad, though he didn't like to say where the child's mother had gone -- I suppose he didn't want me to think about the other most significant woman in his life forever. He was self-righteous, and also always right even when he was wrong. And took everything as an insult. I swear this man was like a dog that had been kicked, so he was determined to kick back first. I got heartily sick of that. I stopped talking to h…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 10:40 PM
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Or... me?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 09:54 PM
3

Nooooonono. My ex, deep breath in: polyfucker who coerced his wife into "ethical" non-monogamy ("Let me have secondaries or I'll just go on cheating on you"), eventually driving her to drink. No concept of consent. Seemed to think, after he'd paid his dues wooing me, that I existed for his sexual pleasure, on demand, every Wednesday night, but when I asked if I could please matter to him in ways that meant anything to me, pffft who are we kidding?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 09:51 PM
1

None of the ones after my ex were objectively abusive by any means. Some had problematic qualities, but I got gone before any of it could boil over.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 09:46 PM
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Same, though. Faces are interesting even if you would personally not bang. Humans are interesting full stop. Whatever happened to the concept of the face with character?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 09:43 PM
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Not sure if you're asking about my abusive ex (who was older, fat, and nerdy, though on the Chad side he was certainly extraverted, self-confident, etc.) or about the men I dated nine years after him. So... the ones nine years later: On the negative end, the bully was definitely one of those "I'm going to be a complete asshole and then act hurt when you question me" types. The ones without visible income were completely prepared to make me their sugar mama without my consent... and two called me…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 09:32 PM
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They turned out to be a mixed bag... because humans are. There was always a reason they weren't for me, which is why I'm back to being quite single. One was a bit of a bully with a chip on his shoulder; one was all but homeless (because he refused to get a job, not because he couldn't work). The sweet spot, I have ultimately decided, is tall enough, confident enough, strong enough. And what that looks like, I'll know when I see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 09:21 PM
14

Have you seen the number of fleshlight/prostitution advocates in this sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 08:47 PM
1

Divorces aren't a family court matter in all states.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 07:24 PM
2

I prefer the femcel lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 07:20 PM
12

Honestly, both of them could be. Mr. Player: he's used to getting his way. Maybe he's physically intimidated his way into most of those relationships. Maybe he coasts on looks, but emotionally he's not worth it. Mr. Virgin: he's NOT used to getting his way... but he's been listening to manosphere assholes telling him what men deserve, he's gone a bit blackpill, and he ends up taking it out on the woman he's with because she's a flawed human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 07:12 PM
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However, they always go for exactly the demographic of guys who do these things: tall, broad-shouldered, extroverted, tough, aggressive, douchebag type guys. I never have. And I got abused anyway. So I stopped dating entirely for nine years, got a glow-up, and when I did start dating, went for men who were closer to your "polar opposite".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 07:07 PM
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Usually the incentive is "this sucks and I don't want to be here anymore". How badly it sucks is what varies. Some people will walk at the drop of a hat, others will stick it out until it's their relationship or their sanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 07:03 PM
1

On the nose.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 04:46 PM
1

No. Because that's just not how Social Security is meant to work. What you pay in is a gamble against how long you're going to live... so if you die young and you didn't make a lot of money, unfortunately you will not see it back. My dad being alive in this scenario, he might be able to collect survivors' benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 03:23 PM
1

May the Fourth be with me?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 03:05 PM
8

Oh. You think that. There is no point in engaging with you any longer. Sorry we both wasted our time.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 02:59 PM
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Because of our entire mythos around how Mary was conceived? The point is that Jesus's birth is a damn miracle cos no dick ever got near the girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 02:59 PM
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There's no difference in effect re: animation, except that real human bodies are even MORE of an adjustment to make. You don't know what you're talking about when it comes to romantic fiction. What wild and irrational act? Name me a book. Men in porn tend to use women's bodies like fleshlights. Two people are involved but if you think they're both getting off, uh, not in most of the free stuff. The "selfish" part refers to the fact that in porn, it's all about him and seldom about her.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 02:57 PM
2

She would get nothing? If she died, she would get nothing, that is how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 02:51 PM
0

Also: the born-again virgins are not progressive Christians. We don't think virginity matters except Mary's.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 09:25 AM
5

The non-progressive Christians got us Trump, so
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 09:24 AM
3

I'm happy to report that I am just as capable of dissenting with women as I am with all other genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 09:23 AM
1

I've said this before re: smut - the better analogy is a lady's toys. Cheap, easy highs? Check. Often makes a partner seem superfluous, to the point where reality can be disappointing? Also check. Some toys desensitize a woman to the point where another person's touch doesn't do much for her. But smut... depending on who you are, a sex scene is just like a sex scene in a normal film. You're not typically dropping trou to wank to it, it's part of a plotline. There's more of a pretext than "these …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 09:17 AM
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