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Yeah because iirc a lot of those studies were post-Columbine based, so violence without sexual causes would be the focus. I'm curious if that will be studied more in the next decade or so!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 10:19 PM
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Any is better than none. I think this single-handedly highlights the difference between... I'm not even sure if it's Red Pill vs Blue Pill, men vs women, or some other thing, because this attitude is actually incomprehensible to me. I would rather be completely celibate altogether than be with someone completely opposite from me out of desperation.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 12:40 AM
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I'm sure you will insist I am lying but women absolutely enjoy sex and feel pleasure from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 11:17 AM
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we know women feel no pleasure from sex lol you're telling on yourself, my guy
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 04:18 AM
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Having children out of wedlock is certainly more common/less stigmatized now, but it's not the general reality for most couples. So if a man wants children, there's a decent chance his partner will want/expect marriage before considering it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 03:16 PM
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"People throughout history didn't have a problem with X, so why do we?" is inviting acceptance for a lot of shitty behaviors and attitudes just because it was previously accepted. I don't particularly care what people used to think was acceptable, because a lot of what they believed absolutely sucked and we don't have to pretend their viewpoints were valid. The fact is, age gaps (among consenting adults) aren't illegal so if that's what you want then go for it. The rest of us are all allowed to …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 03:54 PM
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Yup, I got married at 23 and I didn't have anything to make a prenup about honestly!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 07:33 PM
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As a SAHM who would love to get a part-time job (I just don't feel necessarily equipped to find one right for me) I can absolutely cosign this!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 09:17 PM
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You're both underestimating what it would take to DNA test every baby and overestimating what it takes to not switch babies. We can't even manage to run most rape tests that are collected, we're not going to have enough lab techs to test the DNA of every baby born in the US too. As for baby-switching logistics, it's only a few things: 1) leg-bands that get scanned all the time and compared to a parents' 2) a reduction in nurseries (seriously, my first baby didn't leave my side even once in the h…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 11:36 PM
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Actually that's a really good example because a lot of people would consider an open marriage or polyamory to be "not cheating." (But also, I've never personally known anyone with an open marriage who didn't end up divorced, either. I know that's anecdotal but still)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 02:42 PM
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Ukraine is still technically considered the West, and they're a good model for how people would step up in defense of their families and community
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 02:40 PM
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But also, a lot of us want to have a formally committed, loving relationship with no end date. I think there are good reasons for government involvement in marriages but I'd be married even if they weren't because I'm religious and believe that is the prescribed method for my husband and I to live together.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 02:38 PM
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It definitely can work, at an individual level. I can point to the day I got pregnant with my daughter (very first "try"!) because I got sick afterwards so we didn't keep trying. In your case, sure, but in mine the other method would work perfectly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 02:34 PM
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To be fair, a lot of people probably hold nuanced views on it rather than a strict disagreement. I don't think we should have mandatory testing for logistics and constitutional reasons, but I don't care what other people do ultimately nor would I try to dissuage or ban them from doing so even if I judge privately their motives. I don't mind saying that it only really affects me when it's my marriage we're talking about, so I can say with a straight face what might seem hypocritical or cognitivel…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 02:28 PM
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Babies don't get switched at hospitals anymore with any kind of frequency that involves an expensive and time consuming change of policy. As someone who's given birth in hospitals there's literally no concern at all for several reasons— 1) unless you're in a huge city, there's actually not a high likelihood of two births occurring at exactly the same time 2) hospitals put bracelets with information on their ankles while still in the birthing room and check it against the mother's religiously. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 02:18 PM
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Even if a relationship goes well, someone can die! My mom and mother-in-law both lost their husbands 5 weeks apart. My mom, an engineer, retired immediately while my mother-in-law, a SAHM, Lost her health insurance as of the moment of my FIL's death and had to return to work as soon as she could even with life insurance because she still had two teenage sons at home (healthcare through the state helped tremendously in the past few years). I'm currently a SAHM without a career due to childcare co…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 07:16 PM
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I'll have to check but I was under the impression some of Elon's kids were "made" with the professional equivalent of sperm and a turkey baster, so women aren't necessarily even sleeping with him just carrying his kid. To be honest, I don't know what that says about them, if that's somehow better or worse or what. Technically nothing in the OP talks about wanting to have sex with these men (🤮) but it's implied and talked about explicitly in the comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 11:57 AM
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I think if anything Buchanan was bi and was traumatized by his fiancee's death (and her family was, as I understand it, pretty overbearing too which didn't help)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 11:04 PM
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Lastly, there is evidence that early childhood development is optimized to small communities of alloparents, rather than only a nuclear family. Yeah, for most of human history the idea of kids being raised only by a nuclear family would have been for pioneers, most people had a larger family and community who could assist.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 04:33 AM
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Yeah but (anecdotally) of those 208 children about half will flee from conservatism as adults themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 04:29 AM
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Yeah, I (and a lot of women I know) don't have this experience! And if he's using generalization to assert something then I'm using anecdotes to counter that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 05:08 PM
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Yeah, the only way to normalize it and not lead to high levels of separation and divorce would be to mandate it as just something every parent has to test (and I am against that, we don't have the capacity to test that many DNA tests when we can't even bother to test DNA rape kits, not to mention I don't love the idea of all the DNA results being stored in a database somehow). Otherwise most paternity tests would be in the same envelope as the divorce papers.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 11:51 AM
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Most places where the 5-15% statistic are shown are based on men who already question their paternity and so are seeking testing
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 11:43 AM
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So, this might seem unrelated or half-baked but reading this, I'm struck by the notion of the fruits of the Spirit in Christianity. These are traits that all believers—men and women alike—are supposed to demonstrate and yet they're often treated as "feminine" qualities: love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control. Rather than see certain listed positive traits as goal-worthy and endeavoring to change inwardly, I think a lot of men (within religio…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 02:09 AM
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Or "they"? "It" isn't for people.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 01:12 PM
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Who hurt you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 12:50 PM
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That's your niece or nephew, what's wrong with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 12:33 PM
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"It"?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 12:27 PM
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They’re for feeding babies and we just sexualized them for whatever reason Breasts are actually really interesting because in some ways they are for attracting a mate as a secondary sexual characteristic. Humans are one of only two or three mammals who have breasts all the time and not just when we're nursing. If they were only for nursing, women would grow them while pregnant and then they would go away when the babies were weaned. However, plenty of cultures don't sexualize them and instead ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 01:32 PM
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So nursing should be banned then?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 01:23 PM
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Yup, same here! My only problems at the moment are largely self-maufactured (yay ADHD I guess)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 10:56 PM
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At least in the US, far right parties really aren't gaining everywhere. A few gains were made but the much-talked-about red wave of 2022 didn't happen
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 11:52 AM
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Or, if they do, they give a fake number! (it's only happened to me once and while the guy seemed totally normal, I was visiting a new city and I was uncomfortable rejecting him harshly after he ignored my actually true "I have a boyfriend" response)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 10:28 PM
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Well, technically parents and siblings fall into extended family once the person in question is married and moved out, since nuclear family is only "person + spouse + their children," so I'd agree with you that this is where loyalties lie but I'd narrow the circle a bit more in defining "extended"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 01:17 AM
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The nuclear family is one of the most powerful building blocks in the history of human civilization. I'd argue that it's actually the extended family that did this rather than the nuclear family specifically but otherwise exactly all this.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 10:25 PM
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Most people, even in happy relationships will have affairs. Most people do not have affairs. I don't even think the majority of people do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 10:23 PM
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This is entirely anecdotal and I recognize that but of the few polyamorous couples I know, all of them started monogamous and moves into poly and all of them have failed/left their original spouse. I don't hate it (although such an arrangement is entirely at odds with my religious beliefs) but I would also never recommend it to a couple considering it either.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 10:22 PM
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yes it is
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 10:02 PM
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If you have the wrong height, race, build, religon, status or income level you will never be able to logically talk a woman that doesn't want you into dating you or sleeping with you. I find it interesting you would include religion in this list because it seems like an area that many/most men and women would agree should be a deal breaker for dating while most of the others listed are more "shallow."
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 05:23 AM
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Which would be obvious considering most of those 20k weren't even accused of having sexual relations with German soldiers. They quite literally were though? And there's nothing unique about doing the barest bit of research beyond a fucking Wikipedia source. The number sounded high and I went to read more and surprise—I couldn't. Furthermore the link parrots the number in the byline but never says anything about it. The Guardian, meanwhile, puts the number more plausibly at 80,000 which is within…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 01:46 AM
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The source for that is locked behind a WSJ paywall so unfortunately I can't check it to see how that was determined but the same Wikipedia page you mentioned also says that there were 20,000 cases of women accused of collaboration. While obviously not every woman who committed it was accused (or even survived to the end of the war), the discrepancy between the two numbers is huge and I'm going to be skeptical of 200,000 babies without more information—especially because not every liaison would r…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 01:31 AM
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Most people who argue for bodily autonomy also oppose the military draft as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 02:07 PM
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It is often needed and necessary and even noble. Vietnam showed us this isn't true. Drafting men to fight a political war is extremely unethical. Defensive wars may be another thing ethically, but in nearly every defensive war that America has had, conscription was not needed until the war had been dragging on for multiple years because men voluntarily signed up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 02:05 PM
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Because its expensive, as fuck. Exactly this. One of the best ways to encourage population growth would be to cancel student debt and make owning a house easier. A lot of women who want kids feel like they cannot afford them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 02:02 PM
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China's in a much worse position than we are about population decline. The fruit of the one child policy is pretty rotten.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 02:01 PM
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the french women were the first ones to receive them with open legs. Some, not many, and everyone else rightfully saw them as trash for doing so.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 01:52 PM
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Ah, I didn't realize his tears and devastation was unacceptable but a woman's is fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 03:49 PM
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That would be completely incompatible with my beliefs and values. The hardest of passes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 03:38 PM
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Then why can't the women in this scenario also have a little side action?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 03:30 PM
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“No one owes you anything” is the motto of current culture. It isn’t feminism on its own - it’s the further individualization and putting priority on yourself, your happiness and comfort. Taking to an extreme it isn’t viable or sustainable. And maybe it's the circles I'm in but honestly I hear this opinion espoused far more by right-of-center "pull yourself up by the bootstraps" types more than I do from feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 01:06 PM
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I think that, depending upon how we're defining coercion, incentives and disincentives could be considered a (comparatively mild) form of coercion.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 01:03 PM
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And what's more, none of the women died en route from the Forlorn Hope group, while only two men survived.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 03:31 AM
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I'm going to address #6 specifically, because the reality is that neither men nor women would adapt well at all to wilderness survival. I found it really interesting that in the case of the Donner Party, the men were more likely to give up before the women. Here's a passage from The Indifferent Stars Above by Daniel James Brown (2008): The climb had taken much out of all of them, but the men in particular were fatigued and dispirited. Since leaving the Camp of Death, the women had more and more …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 10:28 PM
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My husband is very willing to be a SAHD and as a SAHM I'd love for him to do it instead of me! But alas, he's an engineer and I am not. Were money no object, we would both be SO happy to do this, but money is the single most important consideration outside of, like, "are you so depressed at your job that your life or health are at risk?"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 09:35 PM
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Then you'll be fulfilled by your hobbies and activities, I guess. Win/win or whatever. (but also, this just isn't true, average men end up in relationships and married all the time)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 10:53 PM
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Ironically even as a blue piller I say this advice is pretty good, because having hobbies and skills is interesting and interesting is sexy! This is the essence of what "be yourself" advice should actually be. Generally, women don't want to be some guy's entire world nor do we want it to be expected that we make a guy our entire world either.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 10:26 PM
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Oh man I'd have so much fun spamming the list with fake bullshit. It would be a completely worthless list.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 05:20 AM
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2 months is definitely recent enough to break up with someone over that!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 10:31 PM
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No idea, honestly. I know I wouldn't date across the political aisle but I'm also married so who I'd date is entirely irrelevant. If my husband died though, I would rather stay single than date or marry someone with whom I had significant political or theological disagreements.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 10:29 PM
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Men are socially conditioned and probably biologically predisposed to be self-sufficient. This might be socially conditioned but I don't think it's a biological predisposition. Men may not have as wide of a net of friendship as women but writings throughout history whether letters, literature, memoirs, etc usually show that men would have at least one or two close friends and it was more than just a buddy to drink or play games with. Totally anecdotally, my husband wishes he had a best friend fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 11:12 PM
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Other primates are closer in brain structure to us than bonobos and yet do not have sex for pleasure, and dolphins are pretty well-known for being sexual deviants that we should not want to emulate unless you're into rape, necrophilia, and zoophilia. So.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 03:22 PM
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SSRIs typically don't, although it looked like studies on the subject are mixed
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 11:31 AM
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The species would have drastically less sex, but only marginally fewer babies. Exactly, and in this regard we would be like nearly every other species on earth, since non-procreative sex is actually very rare among animals. There are well-known exceptions (us, bonobos, dolphins 😬) but plenty of animals that don't and yet still mate for life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 11:24 AM
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I'm not defending OP's entire premise but I do think there's a difference between lowering libido and removing it altogether. As an example, my husband and I are both on SSRIs at the moment which does have a similar effect but we're prioritizing our mental health so it's worth it to us. It doesn't mean we're sexless though! (But I am glad we're both in the same boat so that there's no mismatch in desire) I would never suggest someone intentionally lower their libido though, not remove it altoget…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 11:18 AM
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Yeah, people expecting another societal collapse like the bronze age collapse or the fall of the Roman empire seem to forget that this time we have guns and those do provide some sort of equalization between men and women in terms of lethality.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 04:08 AM
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I still think that it would offset it a bit though because a lot of widowers would remarry (often multiple times), therefore taking more women "off the market" that would still be there if the first wife had just survived childbirth.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 04:00 AM
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So usually I encounter a similar line of thinking (albeit coming from a different background) in Christian Twitter discourse. My answer is still similar though: while I am married and have children, if I weren't, I would rather forego sex and children altogether than marry a contentious man despite desiring both. (By "contentious" I mean controlling, significant disagreements in ideological beliefs, harsh, etc.)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 03:51 AM
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Again, you're going entirely on anecdotes here and assuming they're not made up for internet points. The overwhelming majority of men throughout time who have "fathered" children have indeed gathered them, but you don't hear them making YouTube videos about it. Why would they?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 10:30 AM
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I actually think this comparison (DV in general but death by DV even more specifically) is a really good analogy because like cheating and then passing off the baby as your husband's it can very rarely occur out of nowhere in a long and seemingly happy relationship but more often than not there's some level of suspicion/action beforehand to warrant concern.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 03:34 AM
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That's of course even assuming this story is true and not just a reddit saga dreamt up for attention. I can't speak to every hospital in the country but at least the two I had my children in had very strict policies in place to prevent either accidental swapping or kidnapping. (But also, how do parents not recognize their own children?? Admittedly mine were both on the large side and had so much hair that it proved the old wives' tales about heartburn true but I could have recognized my newborn …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 03:24 AM
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"Constant" is doing a lot of heavy lifting here and if you were to hear of every man who did, in fact, raise their own children it would be so comparatively constant as to be unceasing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 03:14 AM
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There's also the element of projection, too. If my husband asked me for a paternity test I would immediately become suspicious that he was cheating. Why do women divorce their husbands over this? Because the trust between the two is clearly gone, irrevocably lost. If a husband really thinks his wife cheated, just get the test done in secret I guess? Asking for a paternity test is an accusation.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 01:14 AM
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Anabaptists aren't looking to take over the country though or convert people, they just want to be left alone to themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 12:46 PM
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Spreading culture through brute force numbers is a conservative tactic. Those “quiver” weirdos who consider children to be “arrows” for the future fight. It’s a thing, these people are real, and they are training in militias for this “fight”. Completely anecdotal of course, but I went to a small Christian college and am friends with a lot of children of quiverfull families. A lot of them really resent their parents for their upbringing and want no part in the "culture wars" they were bred and ra…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 12:41 PM
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I went with option 2 in my relationship, and while I have nothing to compare it to I definitely don't regret it either!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 08:57 PM
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counterpoint: cockblocking is very cool when a guy is clearly being aggressive and unwanted, and we should all do it more often. 😎
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 12:00 PM
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Not being confrontational is a big reason why sexual harassment and discrimination is common in Japan. This can't be framed as a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 05:00 PM
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see women being a housewife as oppression I see it as a privilege. The difference between oppression and privilege is whether a woman gets to freely choose that role without coercion or force.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 04:51 PM
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I do see a lot of Russian women that have no intention of moving to the west because they feel like they have a purpose don't have the resources to move FIFY
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 04:48 PM
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That's typically not how surveys, even self-reported ones, work. They're generally anonymous so there's no benefit to lying
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 09:19 PM
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9, 11, 8, 12, and....idk, 1 I guess? In order of most important to me. And honestly even the height isn't that important to me but since I'm 6'2" I've always wondered what dating a man who's taller than me would even be like. If I'm creating what actually matters to me, I don't have enough points for the 2-for-1 point buy going on but it includes: being genuinely kind, not only to me but to others as well intelligent/conversant shared worldview/religious beliefs
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 10:09 PM
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I mean at this point in my life if they wanted a relationship that would entail me becoming widowed/divorced (and the ensuing emotional turmoil from that) and becoming a stepdad to my kids. The more logical option is that they are actually my friends rather than orbiters and just think I'm funny/fun to talk to. I
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 08:42 PM
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it's like people still believe in "stranger danger" wait, do you not believe in stranger danger?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 09:02 PM
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My point is just that the state doesn't even run the DNA tests they're supposed to run already, there's no way they're going to efficiently and effectively test all of these. Just like rape kits, they'd sit in a collection room just gathering dust.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 08:08 PM
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Yup, because now thanks to his paranoia he's definitely going to be paying child support
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 07:50 PM
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States don't even test most of their rape kits when a crime has (allegedly) occurred, you think they're gonna test the DNA of every kid born? That would be the biggest waste of taxpayer funds from their perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 07:38 PM
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But why? As you point out, the argument about abortion is predicated exclusively on bodily autonomy so the man gets no say. This is a CMV so I know you're asserting that they should have that right and it's our job to change your mind, but I don't see a positive argument for allowing a man to change his mind on this to begin with. At the risk of sounding too conservative thanks to the horseshoe effect, engaging in sex can lead to this potential outcome and that should never be forgotten. A man t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 02:02 PM
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But their right to choose to be a parent or not is threatened. This is not a right though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 01:57 PM
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Surely you don’t expect women to ditch their children and stay behind to fight while strangers take their kids to another country right? Exactly, my husband and I are committed to doing whatever is best for our children even at the cost of our lives. If that's leaving, then we leave. If it's staying, we stay.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 04:57 PM
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This post seems to be about dating (which I'd assume would be about love) rather than one night stand advice
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 02:25 AM
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I suppose it would depend on the context. I guess I'm picturing some buddies out at a bar and one guy sees a cute girl and asks his friend for advice. If we're sticking with the fish metaphor: if I'm a fisherman and someone else wants tips, I'm giving generic tips at best and keeping all the useful knowledge and fishing locations for myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 02:12 AM
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I think a woman is more likely to give advice based on their own experiences and desires over another man who would be direct competition with the asker for the attention of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 02:07 AM
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To begin with it's a stupid analogy because women typically want to love and be loved—we're not fish trying to avoid being caught altogether. But also—why would you ask your competition for advice?? It seems to me that the other men you're consulting with have a more vested interest in seeing you fail than the women in your life do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 02:05 AM
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I mean, you can if that fits one's goals. (Again, I'm speaking from the background of coming from a Reformed Christian background — our first time was on our wedding night) It's not what a lot of people want, I'm sure, but it's not an absolute requirement either
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 07:59 PM
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My gut says that this depends a lot on the kind of person you're looking for? A religious guy, for example, would probably want an LTR rather than casual sex but that's only helpful if you are also into that kind of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 07:39 PM
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Can't learn how to use a condom on the internet? Pfizer doesn't have a full pamphlet on birth control on their site? Coming from an evangelical background, I knew people in college that didn't know pregnancy was caused by sex. Granted, these people were not having sex either but I think you'd be shocked by some of the lack of knowledge and/or false beliefs that people hold (such as "can't get pregnant the first time" and "can't get pregnant if the woman is on top") Most of the low income neighbo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 11:07 PM
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Lack of comprehensive sex ed, lack of access to Planned Parenthood (especially in the past few years), and birth control failure all come to mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 10:49 PM
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Chances are they weren't intending to get pregnant but were unwilling to terminate.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 10:46 PM
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No, I lied about my number and went on my way. I was getting off a bus and had to meet my sister, and wasn't really in the mood to be chatted up (plus I had a boyfriend).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 04:25 PM
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Interestingly, my family does mention a specific tribe: Blackfoot. The problem is that my family is in Kentucky and as I understand it I think the Blackfoot tribe resides in the PNW so that creates major doubt for me
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 10:38 PM
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I haven't gotten around to doing genealogy testing yet mainly because I'm a paranoid bitch and I don't want my data sold to others but I'd be positively gobsmacked if it turned out I actually did have any Native American genealogy despite family lore
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 05:50 PM
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This is still hospital-dependent. With my first, it was the case. With my second, we could send them off to the nursery if we wanted rest —and I really made use of that! (Different hospitals, same state)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 05:28 PM
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A lot of families have these legends, including my own. From what I remember, such legends were popular to disguise the truth that there was an enslaved African ancestor somewhere along the way (especially during the "1 drop rule" era).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 05:16 PM
3

Still nope, otherwise I would be chasing that instead of being happily married. For me, romantic love is a zero sum game and I can't think of any amount of money that would make me want to share that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 12:32 PM
8

Can confirm, this is pretty great
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 07:06 AM
10

I'm uninterested in sharing my husband's romantic affections with another woman. It's for me alone, and any arrangement that involves another woman ruins that. There's no way that such an arrangement could work out for me emotionally, since I'm not bisexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 10:17 PM
5

Combining that with the long-term genetic average of two women per man (and 4-5 women per man in “recent history”) means that women did consensually choose to share men quite often throughout history. It's more likely that this means widowers remarried after the death of their wife in childbirth than consensual sharing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 07:58 PM
10

I don't think most women in the middle ages were having casual sex at all. I'm sure they weren't all waiting for their wedding night but it would have been dangerous to their reputation and/or their life to have casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 07:55 PM
10

The jealousy problem still would preclude it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 07:51 PM
13

then why care if he steps out a bit. Because most people just don't want to share. We don't need a reason to not want to share for it to be a dealbreaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 07:45 PM
6

This will probably vary quite wildly by location/culture/etc. I don't think any of my male friends have even been in a fight, let alone robbed. I can say with certainty that my husband hasn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 06:22 PM
2

Catcalling is a great example of objectification. In that moment, a guy is only treating a woman as a sex object or something for him to view because if he was thinking about a woman's thoughts and feelings he wouldn't do it. Women, by and large (although I'm sure you'll find anecdotal outliers) do not like being whistled or yelled at. It doesn't make us feel pretty or attractive. It sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 05:26 PM
6

It does cover their topic though, albeit in the form of another question: "why do guys have a problem with the way women date when in fact it is very similar to the way that men themselves date?"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 11:07 AM
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No it’s that the current group of men in their 60s and 70s act all fucking helpless and die sooner without a woman around This reminds me of a really low-stakes example from my old church. We had a temporary pastor who was recently widowed come to lead our church, and one day all the women in the church for an email asking if someone could sew some buttons for him. I very much wanted to reply all with a YouTube link showing him how to do so but ultimately decided that would have been rude and/or…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 02:34 AM
10

Have you had her screened for ADHD? Women are notoriously underdiagnosed as girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 02:48 PM
6

I embroider!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 02:43 PM
124

don't forget be bisexual!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 02:42 PM
13

This is surprisingly accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 02:41 PM
7

I guess I don't see that as submissive, only because A) I think that's reasonable to want and B) women like that typically want men like that too. Chill attracts chill, and all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 02:57 PM
25

Ironically, the men who talk about wanting submissive women are the ones who seem to have the most "my way or the highway" mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 02:52 PM
6

So in your view it sounds like submission is purely a sexual thing, then since daily life can't be structured as a game. I think those who are into that can definitely do it correctly and enjoy themselves but it doesn't sound like the kind of dynamic that would (or should) become normative either.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 02:51 PM
3

Been married almost 8 years
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 12:12 AM
3

Never. I've also never given my real number to a complete stranger either though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 06:03 PM
4

There's also religious reasons to get married but by and large the decision is going to be more personal than societally expected outside of those subcultures.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 01:12 PM
1

I also think physical distance is an issue as well. I love my grandparents but they were hours away (I was in Maryland, one set was in Massachusetts and the other in Florida). Likewise my mom lives in Florida and it's approximately an 18 hour drive away from me. Thankfully my MIL is in the same city as me and she's one of my favorite people so I have her company and support.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 06:39 PM
2

Talking about daycare it's usually seen as the cost for the family (so both parents income are pooled together). Imagine one earns 600 and the other earns 1100 a month. the cost of daycare is 800 a month. If we pool the family money, if both parents work, then the family has 900 in disposable money, but if one takes the "job" a personal childcare, the family has 1100 as disposable income. Also, who says that the man can't give his wife money as a sort of income where she is free to dispose of it…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 06:32 PM
5

Is this based on anything or just a hunch? I tend to think of people as mostly being extroverted but perhaps they're outgoing introverts (aka good at socializing but still getting exhausted by it)?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 11:22 PM
4

And I should also clarify my view is the same for my daughter and for my son, I don't see one as permissible and the other as "dirty" or something. And that's fair! I can hope that my kids follow in our footsteps (waited till our wedding night, baby!) but if they don't then I want them safe/happy/healthy about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 08:18 PM
4

My opinion on this is more based on my religion than a blue pill or red pill perspective. Long story short, yes I would care—particularly if they claim the same faith as their father and me. I'd be disappointed, but I wouldn't be angry/punish them or disown them or anything either. But my oldest is a toddler so we've got some time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 08:14 PM
4

"But-but you get this other stuff that you don't want..." It sounds like you're saying your husband doesn't want his kids when you put it like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 03:26 PM
3

Out of curiosity do you have children yet or is that something down the line you're looking for with him?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 02:53 PM
3

But I see men, both here and in other places, say it's not a need for them. I know a typical retort is that they're wrong or the exception but I think it's probably more likely that men run the gamut of how much they feel they need sex. (I should probably change my flair to, "will try to nuance her way out of anything"!)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 02:50 PM
4

1) you completely misread what I said. No, I don't expect men to accept a marriage with no sex. In fact I said the opposite—in a relationship that's not a dead bedroom situation a husband will probably prioritize his family/companionship over more sex. 2) fair 3) I don't think I was ever talking about a no sex at all scenario? I was pushing back on Gimpy's "need" phrasing and what felt like a minimization of other benefits that a LTR can provide
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 02:44 PM
5

I think this probably isn't as universal as much as it is just your opinion. I can almost guarantee if I asked my husband right now he would say that he needs his children more than he needs sex. But, and this is probably a crucial distinction, it's also not a dead bedroom either/or situation either—it might be different in such a scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 02:37 PM
5

Oh I'm not saying that you don't but more of a response to "I get all this, if I didn't put out my husband would be better off without me." And I don't think that's true of most LTRs. My husband wants a sex partner, yes, but also companionship and childfree. My husband gets kids too out of the marriage and he's thrilled with that! Edit: children, not childfree
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 02:25 PM
6

I mean, your husband also gets kids and a housewife so that alone seems worth it to him depending on his desires
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 01:44 PM
4

Eh, not really but that's gonna depend on a lot (how much makeup is used, what brand, and most crucially do you remember to take off makeup and wash your face at night because that last one was always the hardest for me to remember haha). Even with good skincare, under eye bags or breakouts can happen and that's where I'm encouraging concealer
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 03:51 PM
11

Yeah, I'd really like to normalize proper skin care and judicious use of concealer, regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 01:06 PM
9

I breathed a sigh of relief when I turned 30, now I'm invisible to society!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 12:36 AM
2

Yeah, I'm 6'2". I've got no idea what the lowest dress size I could get down to healthily is but I do know there's physically no way I could be a size 0 and be alive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 06:21 PM
7

There isn't a "consent" to having your name on the birth certificate though. When I was filling out paperwork for my kids, I was the only one who did it and it just asks the father's name—he doesn't need to sign off on it or look at it. I joked with my husband that I could put "Tom Brady" down if I wanted and he just laughed, rolled his eyes, and started complaining about the Patriots again.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 07:14 PM
2

I'm married with two young kids, and I'm currently a SAHM. My husband would LOVE to be a SAHD but alas, he's an engineer and I studied history in college so that's not feasible. Our dynamic is probably not the stereotypical Blue Pill relationship because we're blue pill but religious and that can impact our interactions (we subscribe to the "husband as servant-leader" view).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 05:39 PM
1

I mean, it's a turnoff in the moment in that I'm not gonna try to have sex with my husband in the middle of crying—I'm gonna be listening and supporting him. But it's not a turnoff in that it has impacted our relationship or sex life.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 07:33 PM
7

I kind of love the idea of a face limit though. "Please, no more than one face"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 10:10 AM
1

And they're assuming that virgins are interested in a guy who slept around a lot beforehand too. And I know that the response is often just, "well it's different for men and women" but I'd guess many (most?) who are virgins by choice are probably so because of religious beliefs, and they're generally not going to be interested in a guy who was interested in casual sex (without some sort of big repentance or something, but at least in my experience religious virgins prefer someone with little-to-…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 06:59 PM
1

I was told once by a guy in a bar (who I wasn't even talking to beyond pleasantries) that my height was intimidating, but that could have just been a failed negging attempt.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 04:18 PM
2

Yeah, I'm not seeing anything here that equates to hard evidence of mass consensual polygyny, just anecdotes of the occasional woman, suppositions, and statistics that can be also explained by nonconsensual answers as easily as consensual ones (if not moreso).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 08:10 AM
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I was a virgin on my wedding day, as was my husband, but we're pretty religious so it wasn't a surprise. I didn't feel like I had to marry a virgin but I had to marry someone who agreed with my beliefs. Someone who was not a virgin before conversion would not have been a deal breaker but someone who stayed sexually active likely would have been. (For what it's worth, we were also quite young when we married--23 and 22--but I still have friends who are now 30 and continue to hold to that standard…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 08:16 PM
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No, but A) the feeling would probably be mutual and B) as I understand it most TRP guys seem to actively discourage LTRs/marriage anyways
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 09:37 AM
2

That's just horrifying! It looks like that happened when I was still too young to hear about it...wow.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 07:23 PM
3

Rape camps?! That's just... beyond words... 😨
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 06:52 PM
3

The only time I believe a woman who “makes you wait” actually likes you is when she wants to date you long term and intentionally withholds intimacy, in order to make the man not view her as promiscuous. And even then, in my experience, most of the time there will still be other physical intimacy like kissing, heavy petting, …etc. No woman who actually is attracted to you, physically or emotionally, is so repulsed by the thought of intimacy with you she can’t even make out with you, even on the …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 08:32 PM
7

Can most women recognize an expensive watch on sight? I don't think I even notice if a man is wearing a watch, let alone its value!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 10:45 AM
10

This question is pretty much begging for anecdotes, though. What does TRP get wrong about you?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 10:43 AM
1

I can't say for sure whether this is the case but for their own sake I hope it's not! Not only is it fun to have hobbies, but they're a great way to meet others! My husband and I share several hobbies (especially D&D, Magic, and board games) and it makes our relationship even more fun and sweet. Hobbies alone can't make a lasting relationship but they can certainly begin one or cement one even closer. Even if you don't have the same hobbies as a SO (husband and I both have interests outside our …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 05:44 PM
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Considering that I think this comment was in response to Pete Buttigieg's paternity leave, I don't think there's an angle at all for women here. But when men are taking care of the kids I'm usually just catching up on my sleep deficit!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 05:05 PM
1

Six months might be a bit long for paternal leave but that is notoriously dependent on a lot of things: baby's temperament, mom's recovery (both physically and mentally), amount of community/familial support, what kind of career both parents have, etc. From personal experience, my husband scraped together about 6 weeks of PTO for paternity leave with our firstborn. Right as he was about to return to the office, Covid happened so he started working from home and honestly that was an absolute drea…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 04:55 PM
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I don't think the fertility rate is necessarily the problem, though—it seems like people don't want kids or as many kids these days, rather than problems of people desiring children but not being able to have them for one reason or another.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 04:23 PM
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Interesting, so almost a cynical version of RPW then! My relationship with my husband probably looks similar to this from the exterior (because dating and marriage at a small Christian college involves a pretty good amount of vetting!) although I consider myself blue pill in ideology/mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 02:05 AM
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I think I've been away from the sub for a while because I'm not familiar with FDS. I glanced over their "about" section and it sounds like rather traditional/conservative dating strategies? Is there something different from that and/or Red Pill Women?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 11:35 PM
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Well, I'm 6'2" so a creeper would likely try a shorter woman if he was likely to try something. And we have two cars, but it's cheaper and better for the environment to take the bus. 🤷‍♀️ Especially with an hour commute, I'd rather take the bus anyway so I can read.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 05:37 PM
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Yeah, I'm already married so the only thing that would happen is that creepers at the bus stop would leave me alone. Sounds great to me! 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 04:43 PM
1

and earn a good wifey, 2.4 children, a good salary, and a nice home with a white picket fence and the family dog comes out to greet him as he comes home from work. For those men who do manage this life, is the Red Pill/MGTOW position that they are anomalies or that it's somehow going to inevitably crash?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 02:31 PM
5

...is this a copypasta that I'm unfamiliar with?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 12:30 PM
3

Yeah, my mom is 60 and just got engaged! I'm very happy for them. But, both she and her fiancé are widowed so that does change what they're looking for in a partner/life plan/etc. than it perhaps would if this was a first-time relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 07:09 PM
2

I used my 20s for traveling, for what it's worth. I'm 30 and have one kid, another on the way, and I'm planning my first international trip since children for next year (Covid willing). But, I'm personally okay with pausing progress in my career and I know that while we can travel, you're right that one can't travel a lot anymore. It's all priorities and balance and there's no one "right" answer!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 06:52 PM
0

That's not really relevant to my point about similar stages of life, though. And both the point about beauty and baggage is pretty subjective. My point is that it's not creepy for a 34 year old to date a 28 year old. A 34 year old could still date a 34 year old (and statistically that's probably more likely to happen) but no one is questioning that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 08:52 PM
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Yeah, I guess I can't speak to the sex aspect because of the aforementioned Christian college experience. The idea of just sex seems so foreign to me and my friends haha—if they were having sex, it was in LTRs. So I feel like it'd still be creepy, but that's colored by my perception that any ONS would be weird and I admit that affects my own bias heavily.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 02:17 PM
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Yeah, 28 and 34 are not different stages of life in my opinion. Both have likely been living on their "own" (or, you know, with roommates), holding down a job, paying bills, getting a sense of the direction they want to go in their own life, etc. I don't think I'd even blink at a relationship between that age spread, but reddit can be weird like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 02:04 PM
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It gets back to the "stage of life" issue rather than the age. At 19 very few women have the life experience necessary to make a good life partner (and I'm not talking sexual experience, I'm talking about the ability to not be pushed around, the ability to balance work/life needs, etc). And that's not to say they can't learn; I got married at 23 but my husband was 22 and we learned/grew alongside one another. I would likely assume that a much older man is going to take advantage of naïvity and m…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 01:54 PM
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I mean, I would probably find that creepy if a 19 year old friend of mine (hypothetically, I'm a long way from 19 by now and I went to a small Christian college so there weren't really 19 year olds looking to get picked up in the first place haha) expressed interest in a 37 year old. I'd especially be concerned if they were considering an LTR at that stage of life gap, because I'm not saying 37 year olds can't be physically attractive. That said, as others have pointed out, statistically that's …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 01:43 PM
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That's why I tend not to put a definite timetable on dating "creepiness" (like a 5-7 year maximum spread), because posts like yours illustrate imo that people generally like to date within the same stage of life. I don't really see anything wrong with late twenties dating a early thirties person. I think an early twenties college kid would have little in common with most late twenties/early thirties-aged people, and I'd recommend against dating outside of their stage of life to a hypothetical fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 01:29 PM
1

OP is saying 'if you do not have capacity to have any relationship with the opposite sex, you will not be happy.' Obviously he is correct. He's not necessarily right, though. I don't know if anecdotes are helpful here, but my MIL is a youngish widow (mid-fifties). She loved my FIL so much and misses him, but has said many times that she does not want another relationship for the rest of her life. She isn't pining away and miserable though; she says sometimes she's lonely but she has other non-ro…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 12:11 PM
1

How wealthy is your general area? It's easier to decide to have a kid if you're financially stable.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 02:37 PM
0

Parenting teaches you love. This. I wonder how unpopular it would be if I made a CMV based on this one that only a relationship with children can truly understand selfless love. (Not that I believe that but if OP can massively overgeneralize then why can't I?)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 12:20 AM
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By asking why kids are necessary you're shifting the goalposts a bit from your original comment about "not much of a reason to have them." Having kids may not be necessary but a reason to have the is just because someone wants them. What reason is there to have pets, or romantic relationships? They're enjoyable to have and make life better. Necessary? Not really, but we thankfully don't only live life doing what's necessary or else life would be dreadfully dull.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 12:13 AM
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You seem to be under the impression that the man is the one who decides to risk his wife's life and therefore doesn't truly love her. But, like, many of us want to go through pregnancy. Honestly, after the conception's done, there's nothing my husband could even do to stop me! And it's because I love my husband and he loves me that we allow one another to have full lives that aren't only about us. Even if there's risk in our hobbies; smothering someone and avoiding all risk actually shows that y…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 11:56 PM
1

I really haven't seen any evidence that women are better than men at running a household besides that it's expected of a woman to do so traditionally. I think if men and women didn't have an expectation that the woman would do it (and is better at it) then men would prove just as capable. Heck, my husband has said many times that he would LOVE to be a SAHD (and he'd be a damn good one too!) but alas...he's an engineer and he married me, a decidedly non-engineering type. If I was in the position …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 02:20 PM
6

Maybe it's my ADHD but my feeling of "I don't want to do this" for the laundry or dishes is WAYYY stronger than my "I'm not in the mood" feeling for sex ever could be. My husband can at least convince me to get in the mood for sex, there's no amount of convincing that works for cleaning!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 01:07 PM
1

Gotcha. I'm not sure those words alone would be an admission to settling, however the context and tone that you witnessed would 100% make or break that!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 08:07 PM
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Did she actually say she settled or did she only word it like you said above? I always thought I'd marry an extrovert and someone taller than me, but my husband is neither (heck, my preferences included green/blue eyes, which my husband also doesn't have!). I don't feel like I settled, I just couldn't predict that I would be so attracted to someone outside my ideal mental image.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 08:04 PM
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Your second paragraph really highlights the disconnect for me between OP's post and personal experience. Both of my parents and now my husband were/are engineers who make a comfortable living but don't have (and definitely don't need) that do-or-die, work-work-work mentality. I think a lot of this probably has to do with career field and family background (for example, my mom came from a white collar family and it displayed itself differently from my dad's blue collar family background, even tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 12:14 PM
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That doesn't price anything though, I have many friends (both men and women) who married as virgins after 25. Personal anecdotes aren't worth much admittedly, but experience is still worth more than the assertions you're making without anything at all to back them up.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 04:39 AM
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We do more than just consider it. I was a religious virgin who married a virgin (at 23) so I'm actually speaking from experience. How many religious women do you know in these scenarios? Because this is like my entire social circle and you're pretty off-base.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 04:28 AM
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Lots of religious virgin women want virgin men, though. Are you speaking from experience or assumption?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 04:06 AM
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Interesting that nearly all these posters have F30+ in their posts, but surely that’s just a coincidence... Just to dispel the coincidence, I'd also like to say that I'd rather be single than in a bag relationship, and I'm only 29! (Now, it happens that I'm not single, nor in a bad relationship, but I completely agree with the premise)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/20 11:40 AM
2

Can confirm, am bored wife in happy marriage. I mostly lurk but I feel appropriately called out here!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 05:02 PM
1

I think this is where my American bias is coming in; the examples of recent switches are all in other countries. My baby never left the labor room without me but rather stayed in a bassinet by my side. Kidnapping from a hospital is probably more likely than switching, and most hospitals have great protocols in place to prevent that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 06:22 PM
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While I agree with you, I don't think there's any practical way to switch a baby at birth anymore. Obviously this will depend on the hospital policies, but there was zero opportunity for that when I gave birth to my daughter.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 02:13 PM
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Written by a man in 1724! Even if we grant that what Defoe wrote was true (big "if"), it doesn't discuss the modern state of matrimony or womens' opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 02:02 PM
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Calvinist, although many in Reformedlandia would say that's the bare minimum. Like most aspects of religion there's a spectrum, but on the whole Reformed churches tend to be more conservative.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 01:06 PM
3

This is still the image of motherhood in many western churches, particularly from the Reformed tradition.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 12:55 PM
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As a Presbyterian who married a virgin as a virgin, I'll cosign too!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 01:24 AM
1

Ah, I misunderstood your point then. It sounded like you were saying high quality people aren't settling down yet, so therefore people who are looking for young marriage must not be high quality. Mea culpa!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 03:44 PM
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Maybe it's just the circles I run in, but I don't know anyone who was screwing around or acting crazy stupid in their early-to-mid twenties. Of course, the way you've worded your own question gives you an out, because you can then claim that I'm not hanging around high quality people, but personally it's pretty nice being married with a kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 02:25 AM
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For that matter, I'm guessing my marital status wouldn't change either, so I'd be a gay married man (to a shocked husband).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 07:23 PM
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28, so I think I'm right at the point where theoretically women would be most sensitive to their age because of the impending "wall." But most don't care and I don't either!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 07:40 PM
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But, like, I can't imagine any women who are in my generation giving a crap either about being asked their age. Maybe it will change, but this notion that women care about their age seems antiquated from my personal experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 08:42 PM
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Some may be doing this for only a short period of time too. There are a few orders which take vows annually rather than a perpetual vow, so in theory a young woman could do this for a few years and then leave and get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 07:25 PM
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Yeah, I don't know if guys are more desperate now or if I'm looking better but I get much more attention on the street as a 28 year old than I did when I was younger. It's really uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 06:17 PM
8

This makes me incredibly relieved that I don't have a baby face!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 02:17 PM
2

I thought the first post was a hilarious satire...until the follow-up post.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 12:17 AM
7

Maybe you just have a bad relationship with your wife then?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 12:13 AM
2

Well, I never said bitter! And actually things are going much better, thanks to actual treatment for mental illness!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 10:17 AM
10

Yeah, I actually did exactly what OP recommends and I'm very happy with my choice (married at 23, still really love my husband five years later) but I wouldn't say that it's the path for everyone. Going that route didn't really mitigate dealing with mental illness either, it just left me sarcastic and stressed out. Luckily my husband is extremely supportive and empathetic!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 06:26 PM
45

Younger woman are positive, energetic, and full of excitement and joy of life (why wouldn't they be, they have the world wrapped around their finger). Wait, this is what other young women get? I want a refund, I just got stress and anxiety!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 05:17 PM
2

Nope, that doesn't sound worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 05:42 PM
3

I mean, that makes sense; no 27 year woman would consider dating you either. At 21 you're still practically a baby! People on average tend to date within their age range.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 07:04 PM
1

Finally, where exactly are all of these men in their late teens and early twenties wanting to get married? Christian colleges. :) Met my husband at one (although I wasn't there for an MRS degree), as did most of my friends--male and female. A couple of those marriages have (predictably) failed, but many of them are going strong, and I hope they continue to do so!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/19 03:46 PM
13

That male sexuality is pretty terrifying to women. And it's been scary for a long time. I remember when I was twelve or thirteen and my mom and aunt made us leave the bowling alley because a man was staring inappropriately at me. While most men don't do that thankfully, it still felt like a tough (albeit minor, compared to others' experiences) lessons to learn at a young age.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 02:33 PM
11

Wait, how do your second and third paragraphs relate at all to the quoted content? The quoted content says that men are just as uninterested in politics/philosophy/work/art/etc as women are believed to be, except for when women are around them (suggesting that the only time men talk about "important topics" is to impress women). That has literally nothing to do with your anecdotes about women's supposed preferences for conversational topics.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 06:58 PM
3

I actually wonder if that's what Taylor Swift's song "Blank Space" is about...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 01:22 PM
11

Pretty much! Being religious, we married pretty young and I would have preferred a virgin but I wouldn't have refused to date a non-virgin either!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 04:15 PM
27

I married a virgin, it was a solid life choice (especially since I was as well)!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 04:11 PM
1

Erm...not Dracula, thanks: Within, stood a tall old man, clean shaven save for a long white moustache, and clad in back from head to foot, without a single speck of colour about him anywhere...His face was a strong, a very strong, aquiline, with high bridge of the thin nose and peculiarly arched nostrils, with lofty domed forehead, and hair growing scantily round the temples but profusely elsewhere. His eyebrows were very massive, almost meeting over the nose, and with bushy hair that seemed to …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 08:00 PM
1

Fair point. I think this may also be an issue where I am particularly sensitive (being a woman who is taller than her husband even out of heels).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/18 03:34 PM
1

I mean, I AM judging her negatively, although I suppose I could be more polite about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/18 03:29 PM
1

Honestly, I think that just makes your coworker look weak. It's fine and fun to wear heels even if you stand taller than your man!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/18 03:08 PM
1

I'm glad to see someone else who processes empathy the same way I do! 9/11 is a great example for this, too; my dad was supposed to fly to LA for a business trip on 9/11 but he chose to fly out of BWI while his coworkers flew out of Dulles. He never even made it off of the ground, and his coworkers never made it home. For a long time that was very sobering to think about in a, "what would I do in that situation if it had been my dad?" way. Even now that my dad is dead I still have those thoughts…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 08:45 PM
1

I'm 6'2", he's 6'. I don't think it's made any difference, tbh. We're both happy with it. I'm 27, he's 26. Again, I don't think age really played a role here. He was the youngest in our class in college, which is where I met/started dating him. My mom is three years older than my dad, for what it's worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/18 05:40 PM
1

Seconded. I'm 6'2" and my shorter friends were always the ones who complained about the height of guys. my husband is just south of 6' himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 09:53 PM
1

That's, uh, a very interesting definition of "traditional." I'd say I come from a traditional culture; brides (and grooms) are expected to be virgins before marriage. Unreasonable? Probably, but it does happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 07:12 PM
9

All of those were factors, although historians have debated endlessly over which factors play the largest roles. There was also a lot of political instability and a crazy level of assassinations. When I'm not at work I can try to summarize it a bit more, but it's very interesting to see so many elements interplaying!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 02:39 PM
6

We still have a preponderance of military power over the rest of the world, we're not weak. Whether we use it or not is a different story, but we are perfectly capable of defending ourselves if we wanted to. A decline doesn't mean we have lost our status completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 02:25 PM
10

While we're at it, let's compare American vs Roman military tactics, or technology, or economic systems, or attitudes toward foreigners. I love history as much as the next guy, but looking to the past to dictate the future is simplistic at best. Also, if you're going to tout how awesome and patriarchal Rome was, you need to also talk about it's demise--and that wasn't just because of feminism, or Christianity, or any one cause. History is complex and nuanced, and I hate it when people try to boi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 01:39 PM
3

While I am by no means an atheist, I am also by no means Christian enough to turn down that bounty of earthly delights. If we're talking about rationalization and hamsters, this statement qualifies just as much as a hamster train.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/15 02:25 PM
1

What reasons are there to trust religious women? Is it more logical to trust them then secular women? Honestly, in many cases it's a moot point because unless you're equally religious most devout women won't be interested in dating/marrying you. I also get the impression from some of your points that you're afraid of snagging a nominally-religious woman (point 1). One thing to remember is that, at least in my branch of Protestant theology, being a Christian is not an indicator of "being better" …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/15 02:21 PM
3

It's a pretty big leap to go from "not using trigger warnings" to "raping someone" though...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/15 02:32 PM
5

As the username implies, I love history. I studied it, I taught it, and I still do what I can to enjoy it (visit local museums, attend and sometimes participate in historical re-enactments, etc.). My minor was very much focused on politics and current events, and I enjoy keeping up to date on that. Do I like to debate it? No, not really, but that doesn't mean I don't enjoy it. The idea that women don't care about this and only like gossip is funny and surprising to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/15 02:23 PM
3

Probably typical, but abuse/adultery is definitely a dealbreaker. Right now, I don't think that there are too many rigid roles that we have--right now it's just different seasons of life. My husband is a grad student and full-time employee, so I'm more likely to cook and clean, but that's not "my job." We tend to get each other's advice and opinions before making decisions. I know my husband is not totally against having me be a SAHM/homeschool future children; I'm pretty against that at the mom…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/15 06:59 PM
1

1) No 2) No 3) No. I'm sure it happens to done other women, but I don't believe it happens to most. 4) No, but like the previous answer, it probably happens to done (but not most) others. I actually don't think this is gender specific and I don't think a lot of it is deliberate lying; a person can think they are ready for a relationship, indicate that, and then change their mind or realize they were wrong. 5) I was first interested in a steady relationship freshman year of college, when it seeme…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 01:32 PM
1

My group must sound so young/naïve by comparison, haha. No one in my group was popular (half the group was homeschooled) so it's mostly just outgoing nerds. It works well for us! I never knew any of them in high school (we met in college), but my husband was 17 to 18 (youngest in our year) when I met him and we would both say we've changed for the better.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 05:00 PM
2

That breaks my heart. :( All of my friends' marriages are happy, but I'll grant that we are all young, newly married (1-2 years), and so far childless. I think all of us went to pretty extensive pre-martial counseling though, and I think my sister is the only one who married without being particularly religious. Edit: my phone just loves mistaking "though" and "thigh"...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 01:30 PM
2

I think this is one of the things that throws me about TRP. I'm an outlier and all of my friends are as well. I hate to argue from experience/anecdotes, but outliers don't seem very uncommon to me. But then again, my friends tend to have similar backgrounds and beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 01:06 PM
1

That's an interesting perspective! I think this is probably where we would start to circle endlessly in discussion however, haha. I would just say that the fact that nearly every culture has this picture is a sign of common grace and God's interference. Then it becomes a "chicken vs. egg," faith-or-not question better argued elsewhere (since it gets away from the PPD purpose).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 09:23 PM
2

and the faith being there to give you a rationalization of marriage as a symbol I think it's the other way around. I see it as a symbol because Ephesians says it is a symbol of Christ and His Church. I want my marriage to symbolize that perfect love and union. Will I be successful? Not always, but the Church isn't either. Hosea and Gomer provide another example, very different but equally important. So the faith doesn't justify my view but fully creates it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 09:09 PM
1

Um...yeah. That's exactly what I'm saying. I don't know if "sensitive" is exactly the word, but I appreciate the fact that he doesn't bother attempting stoicism. We're able to laugh, cry, and everything in between together. I would choose that over any dudebro any day. And I'm only 24, so it's not like I suddenly became desperate or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 09:04 PM
1

Hmm, interesting question...in my case, though, what made me stay virgin was out of love and respect for my faith. Marriage is a beautiful symbol, and that meant a lot to me. It's that same faith which my husband shares and appreciates in me, so in that sense I suppose you're correct. But certainly a lot of men are uninterested in faith. So if I'm interpreting "the same thing" as a living faith, then a lack of virginity is not indicative of a lack of faith (As this would entirely ignore redempti…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 08:59 PM
1

You shouldn't be a BPer, you should be an RPW. Well, my husband isn't my captain and I find most "alpha" traits pretty repulsive, so I'd probably make a pretty poor RPW! I do enjoy some traditional things, so I would be purple pill at best. Edit: a word.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 05:53 PM
3

I'm not disputing that (I fit pretty squarely with this study). However, I'm not convinced it is because of virginity that the higher satisfaction exists. Anecdotally, I stayed a virgin until marriage and I'm incredibly happy. I'm not happy because I was a virgin, though; I'm happy because I believe that marriage is a huge blessing, and I stayed a virgin because of my faith. You're saying not to give "sluts a chance" and I'm saying that one's sluttiness vs. virginity is just a side-effect of oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 04:01 PM
1

But like OP pointed out before most virgin women remain that way due to other circumstances, and it could be that those same circumstances (religious upbringing, shame, etc.) are the cause for the lower divorce rates and martial satisfaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 03:19 PM
3

So the only sexual options are a one night stand or BB pity sex? Shit, I gotta go tell my husband that what I thought was a fulfilling sex life has all been a lie!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/15 09:54 PM
1

I argue almost every day from a religious point of view against the Red Pill, haha. Edit: to clarify, I'm Christian and somewhat traditional.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 07:29 PM
1

The Blue Pill ideology is any ideology which rejects the idea that sexual strategy is amoral and concepts like sexual market value, AWALT, etc. Those ideas can be rejected by non-feminists and feminists alike, often for very different reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 06:08 PM
1

At any school besides my conservative Christian one, I could totally buy that! And...maybe even AT my school for all I know...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 05:42 PM
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I know this isn't the main thrust of your point, but I do have to point out: A significant portion of the women who picked that option were unmarried, with no children and no job. What, exactly, were they doing that was so important? Women had their roles in WWII. Just based on a quick search, the female labor force grew by 50% between 1940 and 1945. Whether factory work, skilled labor, etc., there were positions that women had to step up to fill while the war occurred. It's not like the majorit…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/15 03:34 PM
1

ENFP, although the N and S was a 51%/49% split the last time I took it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 10:06 PM
1

Both parents are college-educated engineers.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 03:41 PM
1

There's also the rare giant women, who do date at least average height men but are still taller. (These are my people--my husband my be 6', but he's still mutually shorter).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 02:46 PM
5

Calling BS on this one. Plenty of women date...ah, "below" them, height-wise.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 03:52 AM
1

Wow, now I'm really gonna have to read that! It sounds great!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 07:12 PM
1

I'll have to take a look at that book, then! It looks like Powell's own views don't agree with that (being a Lutheran minister) but since I'm at work I mostly only have time for some Wikipedia "fact-checking". Speaking of, the "historicity of Jesus" page seems to indicate that very few historians believe he was fictitious. But again, Wikipedia, so...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 06:00 PM
1

That's also true for Alexander the Great. Are there any credible historians who dispute Jesus's existence? (That's not a sarcastic question, I genuinely haven't heard of any)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 04:44 PM
3

Well, semantically I can't blame you for being confused--that's the unfortunate result of trying to reply via cell phone. It ought to say "I think that this (your post) gets back to [the question] of whether this (what you are stating) is based in 'hook-up culture'." That's what I get for quickly replying without a cursory read-through. My contention is that you are still talking about hook-up culture and that the majority of women (certainly more than 8-12%) do not have ONSs. It seems to me it'…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 10:11 PM
5

As for "hookup culture", nearly all women have "hooked up" at some point in their lives. I don't know a single one who hasn't had a ONS at some point, which is always passed off as a "mistake" (rather than what it was, which was a specific decision to have immediate sex with a very attractive man). I think that this gets back into whether this is based" hook-up culture. If we're going based on experience, as you are, I'll point out that I don't know a single woman who has had a ONS among my frie…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 03:55 PM
3

Are we exactly the same then as now? Because I would join a freakshow as a giant lady (6'2" is tall now, and it would have been even more so when the average height was shorter). All joking aside, I think I round probably be living in a small town since urbanization is just beginning to really hit its stride. This would have been before the industrial revolution really took hold so my husband would probably be a farmer rather than an engineer. I would probably teach, because that's something I e…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 03:30 PM
3

Yeah...I would have been falsely accused...No bleeding here.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 06:33 PM
2

I guess they just confuse me, to be honest, but it's not like I hate then or anything. I know plenty of traditional women who don't adhere to the more negative ideas TRP espouses so I don't know why they would hold on to all aspects. I remember reading that it was a place for non-religious traditional women to gather, so I guess there's that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/15 01:29 AM
1

I saw on another post of yours that you're not religious (as are many posters, I bet) so there probably is not much reason to other than the desire to publicly declare your relationship (the reason my sister and her fiancé are getting married). I got married because I believe that, despite its problems, it is still fundamentally a good institution and divinely-ordained. I'm not convinced that the parallel-universe atheist historyhill would necessarily bother.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 09:16 PM
6

See, I hear Red Pill men talking about how they have an aversion to "slutty" women. I guess I can't judge that too much, because when I read this and saw that the hypothetical promiscuous man had 30 or more partners, my first thought was "Oh, gross. I'd never date him." It's not insecurity, it's a "I would want/wanted my partner to be on the same level as me." In my case, there are also religious reasons for not wanting a man with a high partner count; if he's that high up, he's either not relig…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 02:07 PM
2

Yeah, but most women in this category have pretty high standards. Anecdotally, women like this tend to marry around their age range and sexual partner number. It's not like a 40 year old will be settling down with a young 22 year old virgin after years of hook ups if she's devoutly religious.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/15 03:29 PM
8

I actually like quite a few of these suggestions! I think they probably work better as ways to express your love to someone you're already committed to, rather than ways to make a man fall in love with you though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 04:14 PM
2

"Niceness" isn't a word I would use in terms of attractiveness, but "kindness" definitely is.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 06:56 PM
1

Haha, same here--my husband and I were friends for two years before dating. Initially, I couldn't imagine dating him, but I got to know him and love him.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 12:07 PM
1

Haha, fair enough. I don't know how many other women would be particularly interested in my husband, but since we share the same interests and hobbies it's prefect! So many of those traits are interconnected though; in my husband's case, he's pretty introverted, so video games and books are his way to unwind, which makes him well-read, which contributes to intelligence at a young age. BUT, this is why I try not to generalize--I would have missed out on a great man if I had!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 11:59 AM
3

1) East coast 2) 24 3) Yes 4) Almost a year, so still idealistic newlyweds! 5) -- 6) Not poly 7) No 8) No Edit: formatting
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 10:18 PM
5

Ok, I see what you mean. But I guess that kind of gets to the idea of generalizations. I wouldn't say that generalizing men is alright, and I wouldn't say that most of these traits are inherently unattractive (or unattractive specifically for men--poor grooming habits would be unattractive regardless of gender, especially since it's so fixable!). All of these traits together or taken to an extreme measure? Yes, I suppose that might be unattractive. But, I really don't know any guy who would chec…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 10:02 PM
1

Just a question, since when are the last four bullet points considered negative/unattractive/"low SMV"?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 08:37 PM
1

Wouldn't just date a shorter guy, I married one. Bonus answer: 100% (setting as my husband was my first serious relationship).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 10:17 PM
1

24, female blue pill woman. BA in history and national security, currently working with IDD individuals. I'm center-right (Christian, so that does inform my political ideas). I'm not a fan of the direction feminism is heading in popular culture, but I'm not anti-feminist by any means.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 04:05 PM
1

My husband and I were virgins until our wedding night, and I really liked that. Would I have refused to date a non-virgin? No, but I'm so glad that we have been able to share that with each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/15 04:43 PM
2

This is one area where I guess I can't fault the red pill too much. If I were single, I would incline towards virgin men so I can't blame them for liking virginish women? But my reason is religious in nature (indeed, my fiance is a virgin).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/14 02:44 PM
1

It doesn't seem all that different to me from in-person trolling. I never could understand why people troll on the internet (it's just not my thing) so I really don't understand why people would do it right to one another, especially in the scenarios given in the post (i.e. a co-worker).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/14 03:15 PM
1

That's not quite accurate. I'm Christian, a virgin, and I suppose fairly traditional in some regards (I'm engaged and in my early twenties), and yet I'm BP to the core. Some of my favorite posters there are completely opposite of me, and I'm okay with that. We really do have people from across the spectrum, united only by our distaste of evo-psych/RP ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/14 03:48 PM
3

Heck, how can you be certain you've experienced love the same way another man has? Generalizations are nice for a lot of things but it's all assumptions, not necessarily actual knowledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/14 09:50 PM
3

I think a person can use whatever criteria they want to determine with whom they will/won't interact romantically. If a catastrophe happened and I ended up back in the dating scene, I don't think I would be able to date a man who was into casual hook-ups or a high partner count because we would be too different. I wouldn't shame someone for it though; I just wouldn't date him. (On the plus side, a guy like that probably wouldn't want to date me either!) At that point it's not a question of moral…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/14 01:36 AM
1

:) My fiance and I were actually just talking about this very topic last week. It's an odd thing, to be sure. But I also didn't say that it necessary makes me feel good, I said it was important to me. Sometimes it make me feel like crap. Sometimes I fail at it. Sometimes I DO get some pleasure for helping someone and I actively try to overcome that pride. I've made no secret of the fact that I am Christian, so I try to help others for the glory of God (perhaps an unpopular opinion, but the impet…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/14 03:07 PM
3

I'm against promoting it as a good thing. I think we should be driving to better ourselves, and I don't think succumbing to fatalism helps. Being selfish is the easy answer, one that takes little difficulty. I actively try daily to put others' needs/interests first. Of course, I don't always succeed. But lifting up other people is more important to me then dragging myself up. I don't expect everyone to want this, but this is the reason I can't support TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/14 10:29 PM
4

I actually don't see too much wrong with your scenario because you're right, that is two peoples' desires being filled simultaneously. I'm not talking about sex necessarily with that statement, but rather the more general RP tenet of putting one's own happiness/wants before someone else's. There's also a difference between hook-ups and a relationship--I wouldn't expect you to put a stranger's needs before your own if you're going for a one-time thing. :) Just doing a quick search of "selfish" on…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/14 07:11 PM
2

I don't identify as Red Pill because I find it insulting that anyone would believe that, based on my gender, I would wantonly throw caution to the wind and try to "trade up" if a man could sufficiently "out-alpha" my fiance. And after that, the responses are only a sarcastic "NAWALT!" or that I think I'm somehow special or unique to women. I'm definitely not unique to women, which is actually the point. I also don't like any ideology that espouses putting your own desires before others' all the …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/14 06:21 PM
1

Narcissism, 2/20th percentile Machiavellianism, 1.6/11th percentile Psychopathy, 0.9/3rd percentile
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/14 03:26 PM
4

Woah, I meant no offense by it, I just thought it was interesting that words can be interpreted differently by different people. Yes, words have meaning. Meanings change over time and context, however, and that's not a bad thing (given that English is a fluid language). As someone earlier in the thread pointed out, nearly no one would use the term "equal" in the way you describe, and it looks like you're splitting hairs to get so upset about it. This is an example of metonymy, to make everyone's…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/14 04:33 PM
2

Haha, you sound just like my boyfriend when I use the word "equal" (although at this point I think it is more of a joke then anything else). He knows perfectly well that I mean that the person who has more expertise/interest in a given thing will take the lead, and yet he tends to take the word "equal" to mean a complete 50/50 split. :) I thought only he did that!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/14 02:27 PM
6

I get what you're saying, although I'm not sure that compliments for positive behavior vs. feeling good are mutually exclusive. My boyfriend tends to praise food when I make it simply because I HATE to cook and he knows it's a big deal for me to make something in the first place. (I do, however, also give him the opportunity for constructive criticism so I can learn from it). His compliments have by no means conditioned me to cook for him more often, however. I don't crave his approval that stro…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/13 06:03 PM
6

I'm not a mod (so feel free to ignore) but from my understanding as a mostly-lurker, it's all about the personal attacks. I think you can (and should, in the case of that article you quoted) call an opinion sexist based on the definition of sexism which you laid out. Calling a person a sexist, however, becomes a personal attack and reduces it to name-calling. I personally think it's easier to argue a position is sexist rather than misogynist, because it's easier to prove discrimination over hatr…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/13 04:36 PM
5

I mostly agree with your second two points and I enjoyed reading them, but I just have to ask about your use of "feminist ally" vs calling yourself a "male feminist." Maybe I'm just a really crappy feminist, but I've never thought of feminism as a movement OF women, but rather a movement to help women achieve the rights we have been denied for so long. That seems like something both men and women can accept/acknowledge, so the title seems like it should be open to both. You say that you cannot e…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/13 03:59 PM
3

Purely anecdotal, but the red pillers who admit/talk about frequent use of prostitutes seem to be the ones (from what I've seen) who believe that every single freakin' woman Is Like "That." That kind of radical view of women would make me pretty depressed/predisposed to paying for a "sure thing" (if I was a man, and I believed that).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/13 03:40 PM
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