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Human reproductive behavior can absolutely be systemized, just like with any other animal.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 10:47 PM
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Add older men to the list LMAO.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 10:46 PM
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How would you know? Are they asking for sex right now? Or are they asking you for her number to set up a date?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 10:30 PM
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Don't dish it if you can't take it 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 10:30 PM
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That is not mutually exclusive with a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 09:50 PM
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Oh so they're "interested" as in they want casual sex but might They're "interested" as in they want some kind of sexual and/or romantic relationship with you and it's not clear what.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 09:32 PM
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His flair checks out frfr
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 09:30 PM
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In terms of appearance yes, in terms of provisioning obviously not.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 09:19 PM
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teehee moment lmao my ick is foids existing
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 09:06 PM
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Depends a lot on age honestly, like people in their 40s are a lot fatter than people in their 20s for instance.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 07:18 PM
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الموت لأمريكا!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 07:17 PM
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With gyms it's even worse because genuine women-only gyms are very rare, rather, a lot of gyms section off parts for women or have women-only time periods. The former means for competition for exercise equipment between their male members, the latter means scheduling difficulties.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 07:08 PM
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Just because they don't approach you asking for a relationship right off the bat(frankly that's really weird) doesn't mean they wouldn't be interested in a relationship. I'm in clubs and bars every week. Were you going with your fiance? How many times have guys hit on you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 07:05 PM
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bros don't leech off of you and wear you down with endless neuroticism.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 05:40 PM
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You're only thinking of women, not the greater community. Half of the community is male.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 05:38 PM
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Men are no where near as sexually predatory as they're made out imo. It's good to hear this coming from a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 05:23 PM
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"Men" like you are what's wrong with the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 05:17 PM
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The law also states that anyone who "expresses a violent or dangerous attitude" won't be permitted to own a gun. Same thing in the US, people can have their guns confiscated under red flag laws. Also as another commenter said there is more violence and crime in general in the US, frankly in large part due to one specific ethnic group......
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 05:14 PM
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happy 9/11 anniversary!!! 👳🏽‍♂️🧔🏽‍♂️✈️💥🏢🏢
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 04:43 PM
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"So maybe it’s easier these days for women to obtain casual sexual relationships than men. But serious, long-term relationships? Actual, meaningful dating? Difficult to achieve for pretty much everyone." "I saw an accurate quote the other day that said “women gatekeep sex and men gatekeep relationships.” If you're going to claim that a relationship is "difficult to achieve" for women then your standards are absolutely relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 03:42 PM
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There is nothing stopping women from making the first move, and they absolutely will with men they like enough(chad).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 03:39 PM
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If you put yourself in situations where it's most socially acceptable for men to approach women(clubs, bars, especially dating apps) you will get plenty of male attention. Most of these approaches are for casual sex. So at least some of them would be interested in a relationship, which is far better than most men ever experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 03:37 PM
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A man who isn't having casual sex wouldn't be giving up much(just some time and money) and they would be getting sex and companionship. It's a no-brainer. This isn't to say that attractive men who can easily have casual sex are never interested in relationships, they can be, but they would be sacrificing sexual variety so it's less cut and dry.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 04:18 AM
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why pretty more feminine men are deemed attractive by women. Do these men actually have a feminized facial structure? Like do they have no brow ridges, big straight forehead, small chin and jaw, more buccal fat, etc.? Or are they just chads with long hair and skincare lmao. Looks have nothing to do with wether or not a man is more virtuous. they give an ugly man a chance and he cheats on them. How likely is it for an ugly man to cheat on her when he's probably struggled all his life? however men…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 04:16 AM
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If men are only as faithful as their options Most people settle, regardless of sex. They crow about how they're only going to fuck women in their 20's Never seen a man here say this. I have seen many men say women in their 20s are more attractive than older women. I think this is just a strawman from you unless you can provide an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 04:10 AM
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There is absolutely a scientific consensus on the strong link between testosterone and aggression lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 04:08 AM
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If men attractive men wanted it more, women wouldn’t have to desire it so much, because they’d automatically get it You missed the entire point of the post 🤦‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 03:11 AM
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Tell that to the women vehemently denying it lmao, here and here
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 03:10 AM
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pure C word I do not fear the jannies as you do!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 03:03 AM
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I don't think you understand the concept of mutual exclusivity, because what you're describing isn't it. You don’t have to date or commit to have sex Attractive men, and some men in certain favorable situations, can easily have casual sex. Most men cannot.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 03:02 AM
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Women will do mental gymnastics to argue that most men are fuckboys who only want sex instead of admitting that they're just chasing the most desirable men, who as a result have a lot of options.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 02:59 AM
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It doesn't make sense to say that "men prefer sex to relationships" because it's not a choice between one or the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 02:55 AM
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Men who women don't want relationships with have nothing to "gatekeep" in the first place That doesn't change the fact that they aren't gatekeeping. And you're nitpicking over semantics instead of engaging with the main point. Which, as I said, is women talking shit about men as a whole on the basis that "men don't want to commit", when in reality it's more like "chad won't commit". More pointedly, incels can't "gatekeep" relationships by definition. "the activity of controlling, and usually lim…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 02:52 AM
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This is a step up from women saying that "men are all fuckboys who won't commit". Anything further than that comes down to value judgements and not facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 02:33 AM
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So? Even if that were true, men by and large are still interested in relationships. And the two are definitely aren't mutually exclusive, people have sex in relationships. A relationship is the only way that most men can have sex consistently.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 02:31 AM
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Both male and human females have hormonal bonding mechanisms so this seems dubious. And regardless, a relationship is the only way that most men can have sex consistently.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 02:30 AM
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One they could never grow and that’s an issue, two they could grow from being with her and “out grow” her. The hell do you mean by "grow"?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 02:28 AM
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It depends on how good your lower face is. If you have a gigachad chin and jaw you better show that off, if you have a severely recessed chin a beard can save your ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 02:26 AM
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saw the profile pic and i thought u were a lesbian for a second lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 02:24 AM
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hey that rhymed 🗿
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 02:21 AM
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Unfortunately so, the point is when women cry about "men bad" it's more like "chad bad".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 02:20 AM
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I never said that women should to do this, I'd sooner start talking to a brick wall. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy in yelling about how "men are trash" while not even giving the vast majority of men a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 02:18 AM
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Attractive men probably ARE more likely to be "douchebags" or "fuckboys", or at least in the sense that women use these terms. Testosterone is likely going to be a common cause in many causes. Higher testosterone results in greater facial masculinity, lower body fat, more muscle, etc, all traits generally considered to be attractive by women. It also results in higher aggression, lower agreeableness, higher sex drive, etc, all behavioral traits associated with this label. Probably the defining t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 02:07 AM
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The employer is still legally required to make up the difference. And many states don't have a separate tipped minimum base wage, or the base wage is significantly higher $2.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 01:51 AM
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case in point
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 12:38 AM
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In the US the employer has to make up the difference if the base wage + tips isn't equivalent to the hourly minimum wage, and where I live in Canada(Ontario) the minimum wage of $15 applies equally to servers. Can you read?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 12:37 AM
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With food prices these days that's a great power lmao. I see people give homeless people begging on the corner free meals, do you think they are powerful? Not meals from nice sit-down restaurants. And they have to degrade themselves by begging/being homeless, it's done out of pity.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 12:36 AM
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I thought people also tipped in the EU, just a very small amount, like a few euros.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 02:29 PM
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why would u work at your age then if u don't need the $$$. after high school or college you'll be working for the rest of your life.......
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 02:28 PM
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it seems like most kids i know worked part time in high school or college. i never needed to because my grandparents gave me a lot of pocket money lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 02:13 PM
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Do you tip the cashier?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 02:12 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 02:08 PM
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why are you waiting until spring?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 02:07 PM
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Also on a slightly related tangent, the power and opportunities that women get from their sexuality is insane and many of them don't recognize it for the privilege that it is. Unlike what many women here claim, it's far from just a minority of genetically gifted hotties. Most of you can look good to men by not being fat and wearing a lot of makeup. They don't even have to do degrading shit like stripping or OF. As I said they can easily earn $500+ a shift being a server or something, thirsty dud…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 02:06 PM
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das rite
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 01:57 PM
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how tf are you classist while working an entry-level service job goofy ahh niggas 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 01:56 PM
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If you tip more than 15% you're unironically a massive tool. Go take a look at r/serverlife. These people are making $50/hr+ for a basic ass job that a high school kid or a robot could do, thanks to oversocialized idiots like you throwing money at them because it's "customary" or whatever. They're actively against proposals to abolish tipping in favor of a $20-$25/hr base wage because they're making BANK on tips that they largely avoid paying taxes on. There is no jurisdiction in Canada or the U…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 01:48 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 12:55 PM
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"Disdain" and "hate" are not the same thing. Most women arguably have some degree of disdain for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 08:23 AM
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Bullshit. Fat and/or ugly women can still get a fair amount of attention from men and chances are at least some of them will be interested in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 07:36 PM
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cows are food not friends 🥩😋
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 07:31 PM
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are u a teacher
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 09:19 AM
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why do white people spend all this $$$ to save sick animals we would just chuck them into the pot 🤨
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 09:19 AM
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Most guys acknowledge that women are very picky and many aren't happy with their options. I'm not sure we would agree that it's a "problem", any more than we would think a spoiled child being denied a gift is a "problem".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 08:39 AM
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tee hee
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 10:47 PM
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truly the retarded sex
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 10:40 PM
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i have a right to look smh
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 10:38 PM
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Preferences may vary but there is a general consensus as to beauty. Sure, it's still a value judgement.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 10:37 PM
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he has nearly a full decade of life experience to use to manipulate her. How would he "manipulate" her into liking him? Was he even the one who pursued her or was it the other way around?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 09:19 PM
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I think most of the these are perfectly acceptable, with reservations for abortion since the life of another human is implicated 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 09:13 PM
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This data doesn't include absolute numbers. The "bottom 50%" of women could very well be getting far more likes than their male counterparts.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 08:38 PM
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PPD women don't make shit up challenge.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 08:35 PM
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Just because they don't think Emma Stone is good looking doesn't mean they are very selective. Maybe they think a many ordinary women are better looking than her 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 08:34 PM
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Beauty is a value judgement, there is no such thing as a correct or opinion assessment of beauty. A man who finds certain female celebrities unattractive is not necessarily highly selective, they might find women that you consider mediocre/ugly looking to be highly attractive. u/purplish_possum likes fat chicks for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 08:33 PM
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I'm talking about traditional attitudes regarding the sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 07:46 PM
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She acts like she's religious but her lifestyle is detestable and worthy of severe punishment according to Sharia. It's two faced.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 07:45 PM
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PPD foid don't strawman one nanosecond challenge(0% success rate)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 07:43 PM
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Then they can conclude (separately) that the career-driven boss-babe is delusional Could you indicate where I said this?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 07:04 PM
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if age and how much she's willing to pay are positively correlated then i would pick the 40 year old sugar momma frfr
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 11:35 AM
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I don't doubt that men do lie as well, not sure why you brought that up. PPD women don't do whataboutism one nanosecond challenge(0% success rate).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 11:34 AM
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They don't want to get slapped with a lawsuit lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 11:31 AM
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I think they lie on surveys because of slut-shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 11:30 AM
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Actually very helpful advice, danke schön!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 11:22 AM
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Girls were eating it up, showing a handsome innocent lad what's up. If you're good looking enough you can get away with almost anything
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 11:21 AM
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but the new one is a Muslim hijab wearing girl. I despite these types. Incredibly two-faced.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 11:18 AM
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Whenever that guy with the "38M Virgin" flair comments about dating to shit on TRP/incels and defend women, it's like seeing Hellen Keller trying to lead the blind.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 11:11 AM
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I'm not shaming anyone, but you commenting about dating and women is like Hellen Keller leading the blind.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 11:10 AM
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If women were so good at reading men then there wouldn't be so many women complaining about men who turn out to be manipulative/abusive/controlling after hiding their true colors. Yet here we are...... Women constantly bringing up "vibes" makes it seem like y'all are claiming to be psychic or something. Pretty retarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 10:52 AM
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Is it "insecure" to acknowledge the reality that women don't like inexperienced guys? And how would you know whether someone is lying?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 10:16 AM
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Would you say the same about promiscuous women who downplay their sexual history?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 06:41 AM
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For example if I say I think capitalism has caused a lot of environmental harm but communism isn't exactly innocent either (see china's highest emissions) High carbon emissions were necessary to achieve the material comforts people enjoy today, irrespective of ideology. China was never communist, it was a socialist planned economy until the 80s when the country transitioned towards a market economy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 05:45 AM
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Drifted apart when I left school and started moving around a lot 🤷‍♂️ Where are you going with this anyways? The point is if you're not overly horny and desperate women have no way of knowing your experience until you start getting physical, and in that case it can still be chalked up to being selfish/ignorant which women put up with all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 05:42 AM
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However, they also talk about how by the time a undesirable guy reaches their 30s, how all good options have run out they start getting more interest, but from less desirable women who view them as providers. FTFY. That's their narrative anyways. IMO it's based on truth but lacking some nuance.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 05:40 AM
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I don't think the "girlfriend" I had in 5th grade counts lmao. I was always moving and I never needed a part time job because I got more than enough spending money from my grandparents.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 05:37 AM
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Tell me how you think these guys could suddenly attract women for hook ups or relationships when they couldn't get sex before. Everyone has a first time, second time, etc. Glow ups exist. I'm not sure what your point is. For my part, I started going to all boys school when I was 11 and dropped out of school when I was 15 so I haven't been around girls habitually for half my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 05:33 AM
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I think you greatly overestimate women's ability to "sense" things considering how often they complain about ending up with abusive/manipulative/controlling men that hid their true nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 05:20 AM
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yeah but nigga still hit lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 05:19 AM
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Everyone has a first time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 05:17 AM
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Women are going to walk away from a potential hook up that's turning them off. "X to doubt". If that was true then there wouldn't be hordes of women complaining about how men are bad/selfish lovers. When women decide to hook up they almost always stick with it, even if they don't want to see the guy again after.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 05:12 AM
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Unless you're in college or something women wouldn't know about your sexual ability. Their initial interest is based on how you look and behave. Absolute worst case scenario they're not gonna want to see you again but still you'd be getting real life experience, and also sex tends to make women grow attached due to hormones. IMO for this reason initial attraction matters the most for women and once she decides she's interested, there's a lot more leeway when it comes to sexual skill and other th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 05:10 AM
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Then how do you explain their prior experience lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 05:08 AM
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💯 Traditionalism is dead and feminism killed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 05:04 AM
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38M virgin if anything guys here should strive to be the opposite of whatever you are, because it clearly ain't working lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 05:01 AM
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"trad" women are very rare now. a guy who schizoposts about wanting a "tradwife" may as well be trying to hunt unicorns, as TRP would put it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 04:59 AM
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She's going to be turned off by a guy that can't kiss and is awkward that claims to have experience too Eh, guys can have some experience and still be subpar/selfish lovers. It's probably better to come clean and hope for someone that is understanding about it. The odds are very bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 04:57 AM
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It makes it look like I ignored your points I'm not accusing you of that am I? I just had extra thoughts and I didn't think you'd respond so quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 04:56 AM
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Most sane people recognize that there are differences between men and women. What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 04:45 AM
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For hook-ups, it doesn’t particularly matter. I think it would matter more because of the greater emphasis of sexual pleasure and skill. For dating, the woman is going to find out you have little to no experience. You don’t build a good relationship by lying and hiding stuff That's a bold assumption, unless you're in the same social circle and it's widely known that you're inexperienced then it would be very difficult for her to find out. In the same way, a woman with a promiscuous past can very…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 04:34 AM
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Yeah this sounds pretty typical to me. You put up with dogshit roles for experience and work your way up.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 04:24 AM
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I’ve been told repeatedly by redpillers that men don’t primarily date women for their money and that women at best overvalue their own financial/career success and at worst think it’s all that matters when attracting a mate. Then those guys are retards just waiting to get milked lmao. It absolutely should matter insofar as her paying her own way. So yeah if she earns less, but say she’s a 10 and he’s a 5, there’s a strong case to be made that she’s dating down. I'm talking about in terms of mone…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 04:23 AM
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Yeah and that's often an attempt to deflect from the fact that they're seeking out men who earn significantly more than them. That's my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 04:16 AM
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Oh. Class is more than income, it's also education and prestige. Sure but that's irrelevant to this topic since it's about women being gold diggers.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 03:36 AM
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Nah, plenty of people still have decent careers without a bachelors.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 03:35 AM
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Educated women think police officers etc. are too rough around the edges and won't share their values That's understandable, I'm talking about cases where women deny hypergamy when they get with men who earn significantly more than them, claiming that they're in the "same socioeconomic class" because they both have degrees and middle class suburban upbringings or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 03:22 AM
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If you don't think they would reject him what is the point of this thread? "but the point is women use dumb shit like degrees and white collar/blue collar distinction to argue against hypergamy when none of that is relevant"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 03:11 AM
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No, it isn't. Are you aware of how few people have graduate degrees?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 03:10 AM
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If you're talking about women arguing against/downplaying hypergamy on the basis of education, that happens here all the time. My example was obviously hyperbolic.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 03:10 AM
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Especially if the girl in your scenario was already born into wealth. There’s rich assholes that admire an elite degree from an elite school over a good salary. Old money top 0.1%ers don't live rent free in my head.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 02:48 AM
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I don't think they would reject him either, but the point is women use dumb shit like degrees and white collar/blue collar distinction to argue against hypergamy when none of that is relevant. The assertion is that women want $$$, so only $$$ is relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 02:47 AM
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that don’t really even exist save for very rare cases You sure about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 02:42 AM
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Sure, but the dumb part is women telling themselves that they're better than men who outearn them just because of their degree. Degrees don't keep the lights on.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 02:37 AM
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Also you guys don't like career women so her earning less than her boyfriend is a good thing isn't it? ❌👎 Gib sugar mommy 🥰 Women really want a "college experience" so they can meet like minded men and hopefully move up the ladder a bit get drunk and fuck chads 24/7. FTFY. What else do you think the "college experience" is but that lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 02:22 AM
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No it isn't, it's absolutely related. If those degrees are of no value to employers then they could have gotten the same well paying job without it 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 02:20 AM
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In past years it was doable but since the tech layoffs last year not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 02:13 AM
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People need to cope with their mediocrity somehow So you admit it's just coping with mediocrity lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 02:13 AM
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Most non-CS degrees are of no value to employers in the CS industry, with the exception of math/engineering degrees which may have some marginal value. So it's not really relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 02:11 AM
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I guess the logic goes that men should choose partners with a less promiscuous past, which makes sense on paper. But as a practical matter I think it would be difficult to know because women have a strong incentive to be dishonest about these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 02:09 AM
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Sure, I understand that people want to feel good about themselves, it's still dumb though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 02:08 AM
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Should men only pursue women who couldn’t possibly have ever been with a more attractive man? I don't think I've ever said that. If you're attractive enough for her to genuinely physically desire you and want to have sex relatively soon, that's good enough IMO. You should be good compared to the others, not necessarily the best. Ultimately though, you're demanding a "solution" but it should be up to the individual man. This is just information for them to help them make their own decisions. If a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 02:06 AM
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yeah but in the example(and most of the time IRL) they are still outearned by their husbands and boyfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 02:00 AM
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Same goes for non fat guys that are otherwise unremarkable.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 01:59 AM
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It reeks of elitism.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 01:57 AM
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Good for her. Will the 4 years she spent withstanding weird BS classes help pay the mortgage?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 01:57 AM
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In past years the self-taught and bootcamp routes were pretty viable for breaking into the field, although since the tech layoffs last year it's become less so. Those who broke in earlier and already have professional experience are mostly fine though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 01:55 AM
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If it's just sex I doubt many men would care, but when it comes to serious relationships and marriage, well, past behavior predicts future behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 01:52 AM
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That's not the most likely explanation. Casual sex is so ubiquitous these days that it's highly implausible to argue that it's largely due to depression or insecurity. Women by and large put out early for guys they find very attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 01:51 AM
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There are far more men supportive of feminism than women sympathetic to MRM.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 01:48 AM
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I relate, I started going to all boys school when I was 11 and I dropped out of school completely when I was 15.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 01:46 AM
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jfl if you think the average guy gets hit on even by fat chicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 01:44 AM
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the difference is that guys get called incels and shunned by mainstream society when they say things like this but women are amplified and supported.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 01:43 AM
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put the fork down bitch lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 01:43 AM
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"I earn 50k in some brainless HR job and my boyfriend is earning 120k as a software developer but I'm actually dating down because I have a piece of paper that says "bachelor's" and he doesn't teehee. Money doesn't matter teehee." average PPD female logic lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 01:41 AM
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You know studies show SAHMs are held to higher expectations to SAHDs? Can you link these studies?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 10:41 PM
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It's not because she earns less, it's because she contributes less.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 10:41 PM
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If your lady isn't paying for about half of all expenses you picked the wrong one.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 09:47 PM
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They care only when it benefits them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 09:18 PM
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Women: "Men aren't doing enough around the house they need to step up 🤬" Also women: "You have such a transactional view of relationships if you complain about your wife not contributing enough to finances 🤬" Somehow it's only "transactional" when men want women to contribute equally 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 09:13 PM
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Most women marry within their socioeconomic status. This claim is completely unfalsifiable, there are no widely agreed definition for what constitutes having the same "socioeconomic" status. Also one third of married women today are breadwinners so not true. Source? According to Pew husbands are still the sole or primary(>60% of family earnings) breadwinner in 55% of American marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 08:30 PM
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Never said it was. The point was that there's nothing wrong with not completely trusting your partner. There's nothing wrong with shielding yourself from risk. Agreed? For those reasons there's nothing wrong with men avoiding marriage and if you take that as an insult that seems like a problem on your part.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 11:02 AM
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which she would otherwise receive less than her fair share of if she has children on average. Why is half your fair share if you're earning significantly less, as most women are? It's inaccurate to attribute differences in earnings solely to childrearing. Half of all husbands in childless marriages significantly outearn their wives, by at least 50% or more. And what about childless marriages? DINK is becoming an increasingly popular lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 09:56 AM
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The Virgin Mary wouldn't be good enough to take the risk. It's smart to not completely trust anyone, even those you love. Would you trust your husband enough to allow him to control the family finances completely?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 09:54 AM
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There is a difference in simply looking at a person and looking at a person like a piece of meat. How would you even know unless he was licking his lips or something....
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 08:31 AM
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Does this also apply to men who get mad when other men check out their girlfriends Yes absolutely 💯 Showing insecurity and mate guarding is one of the dumbest things you can do as a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 08:30 AM
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People look at other people in public all the time, for numerous reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 06:05 AM
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Seems pretty obvious to me that the only reason women make a stink about men checking them out in public is that they are disgusted by interest from men they don't find attractive. People look at other people in public all the time, for numerous reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 04:55 AM
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The vast majority of people have experience working or living away from their parents by the time they're 20. If someone swoops in and snags you before you’ve had that experience, you don’t get that experience. Unless they're cohabitating with their partner, this would not interfere with them experiencing milestones of adulthood such as working or living independently.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 04:26 AM
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https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2019/02/14/millennial-life-how-young-adulthood-today-compares-with-prior-generations-2/ A slim majority of millenial women did not have a bachelor's degree in 2018, and I'm not sure why I would care specifically about UMC. And she was using GRAD SCHOOL to argue how people only become adults at "25" or something, because most people who go to college graduate at 21/22.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 04:23 AM
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are you eulenwatcher?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 01:04 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 09:36 PM
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If you were lucky enough to be born with the right leg, spine, and facial bones then you don't need to grind.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 07:17 PM
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Many don't go to college and the vast majority of people don't go to grad school lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 07:14 PM
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There is no factually correct answer to normative questions like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 07:04 AM
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Judging by your flair that response doesn't surprise me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 06:55 AM
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Which is ridiculous to me because we both have access to the same health care and modern medicine, how is it that a black womans chances of survival drop even!? You really don't To answer your question, I'd say that women are probably more interested in getting married and having kids than men are, but the caveat is that want to do that with the most desirable men. Unfortunately for women, there are only so many chads to go around and not all of them can have a chad to herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 06:52 AM
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Would you fault a man for being a deadbeat dad and avoiding child support if he made it clear from the start that he wasn't interested in being a father, but the BM chose to keep it anyways? I wouldn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 06:48 AM
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That's great and every guy should strive for that, but using that to attract women is an L.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 02:15 AM
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She said she enjoyed sex with the other guy more even if she felt bad after.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 12:59 AM
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Bring on summer!! You're like 3-4 months late
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 12:50 AM
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Guys who rely on money to attract women are losing in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 12:49 AM
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How is best sex defined. Easy. The sex that she enjoyed the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 12:47 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 12:46 AM
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alpha fucks beta bucks lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 12:44 AM
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Yeah but 3 years is more significant when you're young. And if you're talking about a college chick who's dating an well established guy 5-8 years older that's more significant. As I said they are in different stages of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 11:41 PM
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Both men and women peak at 25 to 30 Major cap, women tend to have noticeable skin aging by then even if it's not major, and also tend to have gained weight. Men tend to have more facial hair and lose buccal fat into their late 20s and 30s which can improve their appearance, so for men there are definitely benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 10:14 PM
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Old =/= older A guy who is 5-15 years older is still a notable gap but not old enough to be your dad.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 10:06 PM
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He said "older" not "old". "Older and more mature" to a girl in high school could very well be a college dude that has his own car and apartment. To a girl in college it might be a guy in his mid/late 20s who has a good job and owns a home, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 09:24 PM
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it's one thing to complain about the desirability of the people that are interested in you, but painting them as creeps/predators for merely showing interest is a whole different level.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 11:11 AM
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I can't say I've personally seen that kind of sentiment on PPD
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 09:48 AM
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I meant like those men going on about how they are the greatest Usually after your 30s it's all downhill physically. Not just thinking it should continue to be legal or something. Well I'm saying that I think it's usually harmless if it's not that serious. Look at this guy I replied to, he thinks women like to be beat "Beat" is a strong word but I wouldn't doubt that most women are into BDSM (spanking, hair pulling, etc). Not sure what words he used. he gets excited at the idea of “using up” a w…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 09:09 AM
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Do you think cold-approaches are necessarily bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 08:49 AM
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My problem with this is that, had he respectfully told me what he wanted, whatever it was, I would do it. That would still be controlling IMO. Gaming literally wouldn't have affected him. But he told me later that he wanted to break my confidence. He said it was so I wouldn't leave. I'm so sorry to hear that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 08:48 AM
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Sure. Anyone who is oblivious to it ignores social cues reads as creepy. If you're cold-approaching then there's often nothing to read. How could they know that the guy they're hitting on isn't receptive before they do it? If they accept the rejection without a fuss then what's the problem? There is no expectation of receptiveness I agree, I'm saying it's wrong to demonize men just because you aren't interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 08:45 AM
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Well that doesn’t seem very logical. Why would you want even less options? It's not just about self-interest. I dislike excessive moralizing in general. College-age chicks are old enough to understand sex and relationships, what they like and don't like, etc. So long as they're not cohabitating an older guy has no real ability to control/isolate her, and regardless that has more to do with economic dependency than age(although they are related). So I don't generally see the problem. On the other…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 08:44 AM
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Would it be okay for a guy to call a fat chick "creepy" and accuse her of "sexual harassment" for politely hitting on him, just because the attention is unwanted?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 08:39 AM
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I see people say (here and on other parts of the internet) that they want a younger person because they want someone to “mold” or they “don’t have baggage”. The former sounds kinda controlling but the latter is completely understandable IMO. No one wants to deal with baggage. Sure, most people have some kind of baggage but the older you get the more there is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 08:36 AM
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I'm 20 and I defend them pretty often here even though it means more competition for me rn. On the other hand I am Asian and we do tend to mature slower/later so I am kinda banking on that 💯
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 08:34 AM
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Reading this, I would describe this as being "controlling" rather than being "manipulative". Most people I've seen define "manipulation" to include some element of deception, I'm not seeing that, rather it seems like he was simply strong arming you into doing what he wanted using the leverage of housing. I loved to write, draw, play video games and make music. He was 6 years older, and so he informed me of how these things were immature. In the adult-life, you'd do your duties and watch TV befor…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 04:19 AM
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It's fine to prefer attention from attractive men, it's not fine to demonize less attractive men for hitting on you. If a man talked about fat women that hit on them like that there would be hell to raise.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 04:04 AM
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The problem is when they demonize less attractive men for approaching them. Most women wouldn't consider it acceptable if men shit about fat chicks that hit on them the way they talk about short/ugly guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 03:56 AM
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There is no "center" to the human race, so any benchmark is as good as another. I'm saying that you should look at ALL "benchmarks".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 11:44 PM
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From evolutionary perspective the purpose of life is to reproduce. "Purpose" in this context is normative. It's not a scientific question. The most that biology can say is that the traits organisms have largely evolved to facilitate reproduction. Whether you should reproduce or not is a normative question and outside the bounds of biology and science generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 11:36 PM
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You are correct. I am racially Euro so that tends to be my benchmark. I'm the furthest thing from a liberal but this is just dumb. If you only want to talk about white people that's fine, but if you're talking about humans generally you can't focus on a racial group that's frankly a small minority of all humans. She has no leg hair and has never shaved in her life. There you go. I'm surprised you even thought to ask this question in the first place when the answer was right in front of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 10:48 PM
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If someone is truly against body shaming they would never bring up someone’s body in an argument or as an insult They're not consistently against it. They're only against it when it's done to women, that's the unspoken part. but I think you’re viewing women as a monolith and not acknowledging that different women as a collective can have conflicting opinions In my experience most women use body/sex based insults against men while speaking out against body/sex-shaming towards women. What math are…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 10:44 PM
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Like I said, being ND is 100% gonna make things tougher, you’ll have a bit more of a challenge to overcome but 9/10 times you can overcome it How would you? Are you ND? Do you have any statistics?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 10:35 PM
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Body hair is an androgenic trait, the body hair women do have is a result of androgens. Less body hair is an indicator of femininity. Body hair varies by ethnicity, you're probably using Europeans as a reference which is mistaken. People from Europe, as well the Middle East and South Asia, tend to have more body hair so even the women are fairly hairy. Sub-Saharan Africans and East Asians tend to have far less body hair. As for genital hair, I think being clean shaven or at least trimming it jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 10:34 PM
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Being against(or at least claiming to be) body/slut shaming for women and making sex/body related insults towards men are both ubiquitous female behaviors. You do the math.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 10:22 PM
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Can you read? I wasn't responding to that part.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 05:45 AM
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Where this attitude comes from tho is once you get to about 40 18-23 year olds look and act indistinguishably from children. Humans have this thing called "puberty".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 03:37 AM
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as a black man in America (who is very fit) I only match with 400 lb white women I thought you guys liked them big?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 09:27 PM
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funny seeing you here
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 09:24 PM
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I never said otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 08:30 PM
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but if Nina walked into their lives all the red pillers would abandon all their supposed principles and preferences and run to the courthouse without a prenup. As someone else said, she's a multimillionaire supermodel. If anything SHE would want a prenup lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 10:29 AM
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In western cultures, mothers are the primary decisionmaker for their children.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 10:23 AM
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if people in general are idiots then feminists are downies lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 10:15 AM
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also link that shit i wanna see lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 10:14 AM
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Women's preference for circumcised dicks is what drives mothers to have their infant sons circumcised. They want their sons to look good/normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 10:12 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 10:06 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 10:06 AM
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time for the incels to felonymaxx lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 10:03 AM
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Preferring a dick that happens to be circumcised is not the same as preferring circumcised dick generally. If he was uncircumcised I doubt that it would have mattered to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 10:02 AM
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Women who prefer circumcised dicks are genuinely sick.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 09:17 AM
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a lot of them don't even want to financially contribute. Men are the primary or sole breadwinner in the vast majority of families with children.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 08:36 AM
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endlessly shame and mock them for their own good 💯
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 08:33 PM
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I don't think anyone is entitled to anything but chances are women who make you wait when they have casual sex with other guys aren't that attracted to you and view you as more of a provider.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 10:03 PM
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Average dude is doing average: which lifetime is 4-7 partners. Where are you getting this from?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 09:56 PM
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Frankly you couldn't be more wrong, the "Big 5" is widely used within the academic field of psychology.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 11:32 AM
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Has this hindered my sex life, not that much ,but it is annoying nonetheless. This is until I gained a different perspective. I am 💯 ok now with my height. I for one now no longer give a shit about my height, if it doesn't work for you cool, but It's the determining factor as to how you choose suitors,that poor soul has other things he will soon be worrying about. Trash taking itself out. Ok, good for you. How are you doing with women now?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 09:11 PM
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Married men earn significantly more than single men do. For all the women that are complaining, what are THEY doing to engage?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 06:39 PM
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Alpha fucks beta bucks lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 07:25 AM
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most women are gold diggers 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 07:16 AM
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Again, in most jobs there is opportunity to advance, especially the jobs that partnered men tend to work. And even if there isn't you can still change careers or work overtime to try and earn more. Married men earn more than married women by a long shot, even if they're childless. Whereas the disparity in earnings between unpartnered men and women is tiny. And polling indicates that women do have a strong preference for higher earning men. Women prefer higher earning men and regularly pressure t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 06:38 AM
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So many women these days are deciding to just opt out all together. Very few women are single and celibate.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 05:52 AM
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Bullshit, career advancement is possible in the vast majority of jobs. And you can earn more by working overtime as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 05:51 AM
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That's not true. Business, education, nursing, hell even science, all these degrees are more useful.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 03:20 AM
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What do YOU do to maintain the relationship? Are YOU doing any of the things that you're bitching about him not doing?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 12:15 AM
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Sorry Average Joe but you systematically gave me the impression you enjoyed, among other things, long walks on the beach, quiet brunches at cafes, exploring small secondhand bookshops and performing cunnilingus. Have you ever considered that maybe, just maybe, men who start to settle down are under a lot of pressure from their wives and girlfriends to make more money so they have less time for these things?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 12:14 AM
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Why? Because what they're saying makes women look bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 12:11 AM
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But go off about your locker room ass saying They might not say it to your face. It's called "locker room talk" for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 12:09 AM
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Today is not April 1st. Unless you're going into the field, it's virtually useless and does not provide any specific opportunities. It only serves as a checkbox for jobs that want some kind of degree or for grad school.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 12:08 AM
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I didn’t go to a big college because I don’t think I’m ready to be on my own yet. Do an online bachelors program from a reputable public university for two years. There's tons of them, ASU, Colorado State, Oregon State, University of Florida, etc. Even better if there's a public university in your state that offers it. That's what I do and it's very little work. If you're grades are good enough to be accepted into a university there's no reason to go to community college over an online bachelors…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 12:06 AM
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what makes you think they don't already have friends? they can't have a fuck or have a romantic relationship with their male friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 12:02 AM
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how would you define a "need"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 11:16 PM
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About four in every 10 adults (38%) between the ages of 25 and 54 do not have a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 11:12 PM
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"i've never had a threesome with two guys at once so im a serial monogamist teehee"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 11:06 PM
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https://archive.totalfratmove.com/40-things-college-girls-say-and-what-they-actually-mean/ most of this shit reads like its straight from TRP lmao. most chads probably believe in the same things that TRP does, they just never joined the community because they never had problems attracting women. there's a reason that "nice guys finish last" is such a common saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 11:05 PM
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The age of consent is 14-16 in most places but I think most people think it's 18 because of Hollywood and that's the age in California.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 09:40 PM
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you don't need to get married to have sex......
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 09:34 PM
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In fact, studies say that most older women without children regret not having them. Sauce? Big if true!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 07:00 PM
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Yeah but I’m younger couples This isn't about you and you're missing the point. For all couples, about 2/3 of men are at least 12 months are older and the average disparity is the man being 2.5 years older. You also are trying to generate data that is not available in the survey given. If the survey gives the values for a date range, you should not try to extrapolate what you think a subset of that age range is doing based on your feelings. You do not have data about the young cohort, so you sho…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 02:46 AM
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A whole whole lot of women are dating a man just a few years older, though https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/whats-the-average-age-difference-in-a-couple/ According to this 538 article, only 2/3 of all heterosexual relationships involve a man who is at least 12 months older than his female partner. Age gaps tend to be smaller for younger people and I would bet money that "woman older" couples are more common as well. This post is focused on younger people. I don’t think it’s common for a woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 08:23 PM
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As explained in this post I think is related to the desirability of the man in question. How many men do you think are attractive enough to consistently have casual sex through FWB relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 11:23 AM
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Seems like that was a typo. I meant to post this similar article from Pew: https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/02/08/for-valentines-day-5-facts-about-single-americans/ Regardless, both polls defined being "single" the same way(not married, cohabitating, or a "committed romantic relationship).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 10:28 AM
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I never said they liked sharing. Most women would want a "chad" for herself. Unfortunately, most people can't get whatever they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 09:42 AM
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I explained that and linked the survey questions right at the beginning of the post. Women here really do need to get better at reading 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 09:40 AM
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who is totally not a girlfriend but he's not fooling anyone and would lose his shit Are you even reading what I'm saying? If they're that enmeshed then chances are he's already referred to her as his "girlfriend" at some point. If he isn't that's a major red flag that anyone would be able to identify. They'll turn mental cartwheels to continue to think they can be a player, that they haven't missed out Even if this were true(frankly it's just conjecture on your part), why would women choose to h…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 09:38 AM
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Even having several affairs side by side is super fringe minority of men. It's not an "affair" if you're not in a committed relationship. But those women would not answer that they are in a committed relationship with the guy. Why not? Especially if they're not aware of other women he's seeing. Well that means on average you would need to count all women that are 28 and 29 as not in a committed relationship with a man of the 19-29 age bracket. That is 20% of the women with equal distribution of …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 09:33 AM
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I didn't say "discuss commitment", I said "establish commitment". If you've met each other's families, are talking about moving in, etc, that's well beyond simply "dating". And inevitably they would have to refer to each other by some sort of title, in the hypothetical situation you gave it would most likely be boyfriend/girlfriend, which would be pretty explicitly establishing commitment. If he's never referred to her as his "girlfriend" when their lives have been that enmeshed then he is prett…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 09:22 AM
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The discrepancy for sexually active young men vs. women is much lower with about 70% of young men sexually active vs. 80% of women sexually active. This is a very broad definition of "sexually active" since it includes any man who has had sex in the past year. Including men who reported having sex only once or twice. I should add that prevailing social norms and expectations incentivize men to exaggerate their sexual activity and women to downplay their sexual activity.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 09:04 AM
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As has already been pointed out, age gaps are an issue As has already been pointed out in my post, large age gaps are statistically uncommon and age gaps can go both ways. And on top of that...the barely tolerable guy who has never had the commitment talk with the woman he dates, uses 'Its not a serious thing'to justify his cheating fantasies to himself and would cheat if he could but lol he can't because nobody else actually wants him.... that's a very real thing. Thats like fully half of all s…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 08:45 AM
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it's time for bed grandpa
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 04:31 AM
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it was over for them before they were born
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 04:29 AM
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bro does that johnny guy do anything other than post about how women hate spergs? like he ain't wrong but it's getting repetitive. we all know, the guys mostly agree and the women too know it deep down even if they try to downplay/deny it. yes it never even began for spergcels. whats the point of hashing it out over and over. actually this is typical sperg behavior tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 04:22 AM
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And more importantly beards are not transient and superficial. Like you'll always have that beard unless you decide to shave it, women who rely on makeup to look good can only look like sometimes that unless they are literally wearing makeup 24/7.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 10:07 PM
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Men had a legally enforced obligation to provide for their wives then.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 09:44 PM
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Strictly speaking "hebephilia" refers to primary attraction to young teens/tweens undergoing puberty. That's close enough to being a pedo for me to not care about making a distinction. Attraction to older teenagers is normal though, most people have more or less reached their final adult appearance by then. Some might be hard/impossible to distinguish from people in their early 20s. Everyone develops at a different rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 07:55 PM
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either you're a troll or you unironically need to be in an insane asylum lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 07:40 PM
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Why don't women accuse each other of "objectifying" men?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 02:12 PM
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Who accuses them of that? You say guys don't mind, and I doubt that many other women would care.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 01:13 PM
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You don't need to have a mental disability to be a NEET living with your parents in your 20s or even 30s....... Yes features associated with being a child. So slim If you think being slim is "childlike" then all that shows is how severe the obesity crisis has become. So slim, flat chested, shorter than what a fully grown women usually is. By that logic are the boyfriends and husbands of short and/or flat-chested women all pedophiles then?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 01:10 PM
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Unless you're a loser then by 23 you have moved out of home, experienced a full time job and for a lot of people got a university degree. Many people have not done those things by that age. By labelling these people as "losers" you seem to recognize as much. Why would you want a small teen? Its because they look more underage. What do you mean by "small"? Short? Skinny frame? Low body fat?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 12:55 PM
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Yeah, I think that can be the case for most people, male or female. Not sure what your point is.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 12:54 PM
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This is not a matter of "restraint". The vast majority of people are not sexually attracted to their offspring. That degree of incest is virtually universally unacceptable across human cultures.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 12:44 PM
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A young women is still learning about the world and hasn't yet fully experienced adulthood. Anyone who hasn't moved out or gotten a full-time job hasn't yet "fully experienced adulthood". Including people in their 20s, hell, arguably even people in their 30s. I'm not sure why that's even relevant. Most people understand and start to partake in sex and dating well before full social adulthood. I know behind every barely legal porn search and every small 18 year old Virtually all women will have r…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 12:42 PM
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$$$
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 12:38 PM
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Why are men regularly accused of "objectifying" women simply because they value appearance and prioritize casual sex, but women who are like that never face the same accusation?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 12:05 PM
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"Don't" You could have essentially said the same thing in a single word.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 12:01 PM
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if you're a masochist no-lifer like me yes
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 11:42 AM
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Dude I'm in Toronto and I've heard about attacks where people were shoved onto the rails. Doesn't take a lot of strength to send someone tumbling to their death. And personal space is a thing, jeez.
/r/MensRights27/08/23 03:57 AM
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why would you bother with this if he lives in another country lmao. go touch grass
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 03:33 AM
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introduce her to tarkov also based flair
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 03:31 AM
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tee hee
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 03:30 AM
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looks like someone's in a good mood.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 03:29 AM
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did chad leave u on read
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 02:26 AM
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you think anything looks good on fat chicks
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 02:26 AM
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I lost 30-40 pounds on keto, it worked great for me. Just don't eat too much fat, some people make that mistake because they think that avoiding carbs lets them cheat the laws of physics and eat as much butter and bacon as they want while still losing weight. It does reduce hunger and increase metabolism which is why it's effective but like with any other diet you should try to eat less to maintain a sizeable deficit. And to maintain the fat loss you will very likely have to make permanent dieta…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 01:21 AM
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but also it’s your fault if lowering your standards backfires wtf who is saying this? can you give examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 01:17 AM
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Men's dating advice for women boils down to "don't go for the hot guy, instead discover what the short mediocre looking guys personality is like and form a deep connection with him" and then go and call those same unattractive guys beta buckses The former is what they consider to be ideal, the latter is the reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 01:16 AM
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He does tbh, it's important to keep your expectations in check when it comes to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 01:15 AM
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The average white guy would be turning down the difficulty from "hard" to "tutorial" by going to SEA
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 09:28 PM
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dude a 5'8" guy is tall in SEA lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 09:27 PM
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Women here are retarded for thinking that the only reason that passport bros are successful in SEA is their money/citizenship. The average white guy is significantly taller than the average southeast asian guy. The average white guy has a more masculine facial structure than the average southeast asian guy. Most Asian-American women born in the US will marry white men. Women in China looking for a sperm dollar will pay top dollar for sperm from a white dude. Southeast/east asian women LOVE white…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 09:07 PM
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What man in their right mind would want to be friends with a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 08:58 PM
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AFAIK a lot of sex workers do rely on some kind of personal touch to keep clients coming back.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 08:33 PM
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Nah I don't trust anything that comes out of a woman's mouth 💯
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 08:31 PM
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because they are hot and they make bank. i want a stacybux teehee
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 10:22 AM
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he kinda has a pedostache but otherwise yeah good face
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 09:32 AM
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Honestly I really do hope that other men are as averse to dating sex workers as some people make it out to be. That means more for me ☺️
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 09:30 AM
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me after dying to an altyn/zabralo/saiga chad on factory
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 05:23 AM
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I have a good face(lean-ish, strong jaw, good eye depth, small forehead) I would say but I'm Asian which I feel is a death sentence here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 01:23 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 01:19 AM
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was she paying most of the rent/expenses?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 01:11 AM
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You both need to be telling that to the men who imply women never work and don't financially contribute to their households Which men are saying this? Can you give examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 01:06 AM
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Yeah, he made it clear that while you were on the right track it was more complex in his view.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 10:04 PM
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I think they can be very sexually successful with women. I doubt that many women will want to marry them. AF/BB etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 10:03 PM
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It's a bit more complex in reality, but AF/BB is a good enough understanding for most people. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 09:36 PM
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No, that's not the question, that's moving the goalposts/changing the topic. I'm not the person you were responding to.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 09:29 PM
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I think you strawmanned proponents of AF/BB. I don't think most of them believe or claim that women married to "BB" don't work or contribute financially at all. "Imagine unironically saying women don't have jobs and never financially contribute to their household" The person you responded you never said this.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 09:28 PM
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They do contribute, but even childless women earn significantly less than their spouses
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 09:13 PM
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I think all women contribute something, the important question is whether they contribute anywhere near as much as their husbands/boyfriends do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 09:11 PM
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That's not relevant to the point I was making.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 06:40 PM
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Sure they are, that doesn't mean they're always or usually correct. Especially for a young child that has barely had any life experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 06:38 PM
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You're really here to argue about the potential incorrectness of the feelings of terrified five year old girls from men 10 times their age complimenting them? Yes. Why should it be necessarily wrong for older men to compliment your appearance? When I was that age adult family friends complimented my appearance all the time. If all you have is a "gut feeling" that's hardly any evidence of perverse intentions on their part.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 06:37 PM
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Companies are very vocal about wanting to hire more women for tech roles, and resume experiments show that women have a clear advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 09:09 AM
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She's a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 08:24 AM
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Women also spend the most on consumer goods than men Do you think consumerism is a good thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 08:23 AM
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If there is no possibility of legal abortions, how much will the number of more risky, illegal abortions and infanticides after clandestine births increase? A pro-life individual might argue that preventing dangerous clandestine abortions should not be a priority for policymakers because it's something women choose to do to themselves. Personally, I am sympathetic to that line of reasoning. As I said, it ultimately boils down to values. These are not questions for the non-expert public All the q…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 07:10 AM
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How is it possible that those groups can only listen to one-sided arguments for or against to form such a one-sided point of view? How is it that the media, including televisions, work as echo chambers? Do recognized experts comment on this topic in this black and white way? If so, how is that possible when every complex decision has pros and cons? Because these stances are based on values, not facts. If you think someone is valuable and should not be killed simply because they are a member of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 05:58 AM
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I felt afraid and grossed out by how the man was saying it. Right, because people are never afraid of or grossed out by harmless things.......
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 05:54 AM
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"So no, it's not just a small group of men going around being constantly creepy." .
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 05:53 AM
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This subreddit is far from representative.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 05:52 AM
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Again, you're the one who made the claim, I was just asking for evidence.....
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 03:08 AM
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Also the original commenter used the same definition of that term but for some reason you didn't give her shit for it. Wonder why 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 03:06 AM
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She made the claim, the burden of proof is on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 03:04 AM
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and that every woman has dozens of these predators come at them attempting to groom and assault them by the time they’re 12 years old. Have you personally spoken to "every woman"? Or even a large, representative, sample of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 03:03 AM
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I don't think many people, especially outside of the US, would necessarily label a young adult who dates an older teenager as a "pedo" depending on the local laws, the age gap, and social norms. It can very well be considered socially acceptable. The age of consent is lower than 18 in most places, even in the developed world.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 03:00 AM
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In under developed countries in the middle east and Africa, grown men have no visceral reaction to having sex with and marrying girls 11-13+. Do you know many Middle Eastern and African men?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 02:52 AM
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"Pedophilia" refers to attraction to pre-pubescent children. I haven't seen any guys here claim that men are inclined towards that. I don't doubt that many if not most men, can find teenage girls attractive. I think it's probably similar for women though, perhaps to a lesser extent. Many teenage boys do have significant facial hair and have reached their adult height by high school so would be hard to distinguish from guys in their early 20s. Whether they would act on their attraction would depe…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 02:51 AM
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Brain-dead comment. Just because they act normal doesn't mean most guys who act normal are like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 02:42 AM
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Not often, but a couple times I remember thinking I didn't like how that man said it, but couldn't articulate why. Just a gut feeling of eww compared to feeling blushy. Your basis for labelling compliments as "sexual attention" is your "gut feeling"? 🤡
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 02:41 AM
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Men get resentful when they feel they aren't getting what they really want, a Stacy type woman who has low bodyfat, flat stomach, ample breasts. Guys also get "Stacy widowed" the same way some women do. Seems pretty dumb to draw broad conclusions about a group of people because of a few stories on reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 02:38 AM
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If one group thinks that an unborn human fetus is as morally valuable as a born human, and the other thinks that women should never be forced to raise kids they don't want, then no compromise can be possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 02:37 AM
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You should have said that then smh
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 10:51 PM
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There's stories of virtually everything online. That doesn't mean it's common. I'm not saying that the men who aren't attracted to their gf are necessarily bored w their relationship By "bored" this article is referring to sexual desire, and the studies measure sexual desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 10:50 PM
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Helping others and making a difference in the world, not just following hedonistic desires like your sex drive all the time Society is overwhelmingly hedonistic and focused on material pleasures now.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 09:02 PM
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going to the bar Sounds like you have some abusive and controlling attitudes if you think your spouse having fun makes him an "asshole".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 09:01 PM
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even then, though, “chad” is a deeply unhappy individual who constantly has to put up a facade soooooooo Are you really this envious of attractive playboys, to the point where you would make up shit about how they must be miserable?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 09:01 PM
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Penalties for being a john tend to be much more severe and regularly enforced than penalties for drinking underage or smoking weed.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 08:59 PM
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$$$$
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 08:56 PM
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There are many stories where the guy will flat out tell the woman she is not attractive to him. The data doesn't seem to support your anecdote. It's women who get bored and disinterested in LTRs, not men You're clearly pulling shit out of your ass and projecting female behavior onto men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 08:55 PM
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Just because women are relatively weaker doesn't mean they are harmless. And just because men are stronger doesn't mean they are always utilizing their full strength. No child was ever seriously injured being spanked by their dad.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 08:45 PM
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Things regarding strength- the average man is naturally way stronger than a woman. Its why women arent drafted into war (I am totally against the draft at all). Its why DV against women is taken more seriously I think. Do you think these are justified or unjustified?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 08:43 PM
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If you defend abortion rights solely on the basis of bodily autonomy sure, but that's not what progressives seem to have focused on after Dobbs came down. They very much emphasized how unwanted pregnancy and parenthood can disrupt someone's life path, and argued that people have a right to avoid parenthood if it's not the right time for them. Everyone knows that 18+ years of childrearing is an exponentially greater burden than 9 months of gestation. The effects of accidental/unwanted pregnancies…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 08:41 PM
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I’m stating why it’s not easy to “just be thin” for most people, since the argument was that it’s easy. I don't think it's "easy" but you're exaggerating the effects of a calorie deficit. I do agree that changing your diet can help, but ultimately it’s calories in, calories out. That's true, but: people tend to feel less hungry on a low carb diet compared to a conventional weight loss diet, so it's easier to maintain a lower amount of "calories in" some research that people on low carb diets hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 02:24 AM
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Males know they would allow a beautiful woman to come up and dance with him but they would be disgusted if an extremely unattractive woman tried to do the same. Should unattractive women be socially sanctioned and be labelled as sexual harassers if they do so? That's the important question here. It's fine to not like it, or even be disgusted when someone approaches you a certain way, but trying to portray them as a predator is different. When men complain about different standards for "sexual ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 11:06 PM
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I think you, and most people for that matter, have a warped understanding of "skinny" because of how common obesity is. Most people in developed countries have too much body fat, and it's worse for women than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 10:58 PM
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Trying to live on the calorie deficit required to be “ideally” thin for most women, means you are always hungry, tired, and cranky. Being hungry is normal, humans evolved in a food-scarce environment so humans have a drive to want to eat more to build up fat for leaner times. Only now there are no leaner times in developed countries. Extant hunter-gatherers are overwhelmingly low body fat, do you think they're always "tired" and "cranky"? At this point you're just making up dumb excuses for obes…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 10:55 PM
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If a man asked out every non fat woman he saw he would quickly be labelled as a creep/fuckboy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 10:43 PM
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lmao you retard, that page isn't about "escorts" as in prostitutes. the jobs listed are all customer service jobs centered around literally escorting people. you didn't even read it did you, you just looked up "escort salary" and copied and pasted the first link you saw. "The Candidate shall provide escort support to the staff of the Headquarters United States Special Operations Command Engineer Office." "Responsible for transporting patients and miscellaneous supplies throughout the hospital." …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 05:26 AM
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However, they do observe that their calculations exclude tipping Not a very good calculation then.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 05:24 AM
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These women can only get weirdos/losers to cuff them anyway Big if true! I'll take them 😎
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 05:20 AM
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How would you know that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 03:28 AM
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There seems to be a strong belief among manospherian men that women are to blame for the high number of divorces these days, as they initiate most of them. Lesbian marriages are far more likely to end in divorce than gay male marriages, and men and women initiate breakups at roughly the same rate in unmarried heterosexual couples. The common denominators here are women and marriage, you do the math. Men cheat more, the only age group with the opposite numbers are people between 18-29, but the di…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 09:42 PM
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I don't think even guys who are vocal about high body count women are that puritanical. Most aren't religious or Christian, if you have sex with a guy you're in a committed relationship with I doubt they would care. The rhetoric is more so anti casual sex than anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 09:27 PM
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The vast majority of people don't go to swinger parties lmao, and the people who do are mostly older people.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 07:14 PM
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Ok, who cares?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 06:11 PM
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How many guys here legitimately complain that it's not fair that they don't get endless casual sex? Can you give some examples? We’re not mad at women for making us ask/pay/wait/date them Personally, this is what grinds my gears. The parasitism and deception. I don't have anything against women only choosing to have sex with a small, attractive, minority of men. I do have a problem with women leeching off of men they don't find attractive, paying for dates is small fry compared to how the majori…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 10:07 AM
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Most women have casual sex now so this is kind of a moot point.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 09:50 AM
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Less than 10% of women are hourglass shaped. Where are you getting this from?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 09:40 AM
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Generally speaking, you need to build muscle in order to improve your appearance, whether you're male or female, because muscle is what enables you to look lean without looking gaunt. Exercises favored by women(jogging, stretching, pilates, etc.) usually aren't very good for building muscle As for fat loss, calories burned by exercise in of itself is insignificant compared to the basal energy expenditure required to sustain your essential bodily functions. And calories burned by exercise are cou…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 09:37 AM
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I don't fully understand why women's swimsuits are so tiny. Like, I'm not complaining or anything, but why not just wear shorts and a crop top/tank top like men would? Why wear a bikini? Is it because they want to tan? Or is it because they to show off their body for attention? Or are they just wearing it because everyone else is and they're adhering the norm? I think it's probably a combination of these.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 04:04 AM
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but realistically it's probably in school How would you know that? Maths is very useful for it - indeed the top recommended subject for studying philosophy is usually maths We were talking about law, not philosophy. It'd be great if American maths teaching was good enough to be able to leave it by age sixteen and take your own options like in other countries but it needs to improve a lot for that to happen. Again, most people learn way more math than they actually need for their day to day lives…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 03:49 AM
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a lawyer, for example, might not directly use maths very much, but definitely needs a firm grasp of logical reasoning which is learned primarily through study of maths I think you're mainly thinking of litigator, not all lawyers are litigators that spend a lot of time arguing over factual cases in court. And you can build logical and reasoning skills by doing a lot of things, this is a really dumb argument. I use logic and reasoning playing Bannerlord and Squad. Hell, I don't even think math req…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 07:54 PM
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What kind of women are they? Family? Girlfriends/situationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 07:47 PM
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Speaking as another CS major, math knowledge apart from arithmetic is not really required for most CS courses or a career in software development. only the highly theoretical aspects of CS are math-heavy. And I think the main reasons that compulsory education was implemented was to instill discipline/obedience and keeping kids in school so they have less time to go out and cause trouble. Also when compulsory education was introduced far less was being taught to the kids and the compulsory durati…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 07:43 PM
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There are of course other skills necessary for jobs but often they're not things that are taught in schools. Like practical skills for trades or law enforcement, coding for software development, practical and social skills for jobs involving customer service, etc. And for jobs that do require certain knowledge taught in schools, they don't require most of the other things that are taught in schools. Like an accountant needs to know math but not literature, science, history, etc. A lawyer probabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 07:40 PM
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But if you cannot admire I can admire women's accomplishments, sure. Lisa Su led AMD to great success from being greatly outshadowed by Intel/Nvidia. Now I have an AMD CPU in my gaming PC. That doesn't mean I'd want to be friends with her. or break bread with a woman or share a social event with a woman At this point you're talking about avoiding women entirely and not merely not befriending them. Women are everywhere, I'm clearly not talking about not attending some social event because there a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 06:26 AM
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Not a single one except the gay ones and even then one of them made out with me at a bar. Doesn't sound very gay to me lmao. Probably a confused bisexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 06:17 AM
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On the other hand, all I really have to say about this take is "don't buy into stereotypes." Honestly, I don't think excluding certain groups from your personal relationships is a huge deal, especially if it's based on factors that apply to a large majority of that group. If a woman has had a lot of bad experiences with male "friends" trying to get with her I definitely wouldn't see a problem with her avoiding befriending men 🤷‍♂️ If you are experiencing casual sex to broaden you horizons at a p…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 05:02 AM
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That's fine. If you, as man, tell me you never met a single cool soccer player or a tuba player or an artist or a skater girl who could be your friend, you sre lying. I like PC gaming, history, coding somewhat, and I'm fairly right-leaning politically (there is a pretty big disparity in political beliefs between young men and young women, much more so compared to previous generations). I seriously doubt I'd get along as friends with many women platonically. I forgot to mention this, someone else…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 04:44 AM
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Also this reason tbh 💯 women expect their male friends to do a lot of favors with them and do barely anything in return, men don't expect nearly as much and are more helpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 04:35 AM
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Well then it does say something about women, does it......
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 04:33 AM
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I guess some men are much "nicer" and more PC then me 🤷‍♂️ You're shifting the goalposts though. Yeah I dish it, but I can also take it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 04:28 AM
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I disagree, everything is just fine and dandy around other guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 04:26 AM
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Plenty of women aren't interested in friendships with men, due to lack of common interests(especially more feminine women) or the concern that these men will use friendship as a guise for approaching them sexually/romantically.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 04:23 AM
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You type with your ass or something? Because that's a load of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 04:22 AM
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I think women are generally more easygoing towards you if they're attracted to you. With female platonic friends it's like walking on eggshells.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 04:16 AM
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Would a woman be guilty of "dehumanizing" men if she was only interested in casual sex with men, and not serious relationships or friendships?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 04:14 AM
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I think with most female platonic friendships the dynamics are different, women are more sensitive and are less willing to tolerate crude or dark humor, or friendly roast, compared to men. I'm sure there are some exceptions but for me, it's easier to avoid befriending women generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 03:05 AM
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Think you meant "platonic friendship". "Platonic relationship" can include a great many different kinds of relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 02:57 AM
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I don't think men are reducing you to sexual objects just because they're not interested in befriending you. Men and women are different from one another, plenty of women aren't interested in befriending men and no one ever gives them shit. The only case I think it would be accurate to claim objectification is if they disregard literally everything else about you, like not recognizing/valuing your skills and accomplishments in a professional or academic context for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 02:13 AM
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“how can I get sex from people who currently don’t want to give it to me?” Why should people help them get around consent, it’s not moral Changing someone's mind is not "getting around consent". Consent is not static and unchanging. Just like how someone who initially consents can withdraw consent, someone who initially doesn't consent can also change their mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 08:27 PM
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you have to look at the person you’re getting your advice from and see if they align with your value Most men would certainly like to have casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 08:25 PM
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It's more like "how do I make someone want me". No one can force women to be with guys they don't want to be with.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 08:24 PM
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king shit 👑
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 02:54 AM
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How does the constitution force you to seek male providers? What "outdated systems" force you to seek male providers?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 10:46 PM
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Men who have been dead for 200+ years are forcing women today to seek male providers?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 10:39 PM
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Why bring up your boyfriend? Are you his sugar momma?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 10:35 PM
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no one IRL needs to know about my based opinions
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 09:46 PM
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zero but im still on that trophy husband looksmaxx grind
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 09:35 PM
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Women always claim guys are "intimidated" by successful career women that outearn them. I really do wish that is true, means more sugar mommies more for me 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 09:28 PM
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Those kids entered the foster system later, as I said fewer people want to adopt older kids. But virtually all babies that are up for adoption will get adopted.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 08:02 AM
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she wasn't complaining, at most she was like poking fun
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 07:43 AM
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bro even if that was true she could absolutely find a guy who pulls his weight financially. like she's gotta be with him for his looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 07:10 AM
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Why be single when you can be perpetually in a relationship? Why be in a relationship with and provide for a loser that barely does anything unless you found him highly attractive lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 07:07 AM
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Could be for stability and/or securing a handhold bro what "stability" does this loser give her that other guys couldn't. she could easily bag a guy that makes more and is willing to pay for most expenses, it's considered normal. and since they're married with a massive income disparity it's not like it's easy for her to monkey branch without losing out in the settlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 07:03 AM
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why would she betabux for a guy she's not even attracted to lmao. use your brain bro cmon.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 06:50 AM
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It's easy for women to say that when they don't have to deal with rejections anywhere near as much as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 06:35 AM
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It's easy for women to say that when they don't have to deal with rejections anywhere near as much as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 06:35 AM
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bro this dork is living on recruit difficulty and he's still bitching. man doesn't realize how lucky he is, i wanna take his spot I (28m) and have been married to my wife "Bella" (28f) for 5 years. We both met and went to the same college. She pre-law while I was doing animation. She graduated top of our class and went to a T20 law school. While she was in law school, I had a lot of trouble finding a job in my field or a job at all, really. I ended up working in a kitchen as a line cook to help …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 06:34 AM
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bro this dork is living the dream and he's still bitching. man doesn't realize how lucky he is, i wanna take his spot I (28m) and have been married to my wife "Bella" (28f) for 5 years. We both met and went to the same college. She pre-law while I was doing animation. She graduated top of our class and went to a T20 law school. While she was in law school, I had a lot of trouble finding a job in my field or a job at all, really. I ended up working in a kitchen as a line cook to help support us (…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 06:33 AM
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wtf no that's gay as fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 06:29 AM
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Beauty is a value judgement. Objecting to people's preference for Europid traits is like objecting to someone's art or music preferences. It's pointless. I'm not white and I've made my peace with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 06:28 AM
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Men also make distinctions between "good time girls" and "wife material". Only in the sense that they are more selective for the latter. Men don't look for different sets of traits like women do. Men certainly don't value attraction less when it comes to selecting a women to settle down with, if anything they value it more. Many women here have pointed out that while it may be very easy for ugly/average women to have casual sex, it is more difficult to find a serious relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 05:32 AM
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I didn't say that though? Do you think I'm "faulting" them by calling them chronic failures? That's just a fact honestly, people fail for reasons that aren't their fault all the time, they still failed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 05:28 AM
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What don't I understand? Which of my beliefs about the nature of politics/conservative ideology do you disagree with?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 05:00 AM
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or lack of attraction In large part because of his appearance and/or autistic behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 04:59 AM
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If this was common, women would talk about it all the damn time. They literally do lmao. Women regularly make distinctions between guys that are for fun when they are younger and guys that are "husband material", and women regularly discuss how their priorities change as they age.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 04:58 AM
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Virtually all do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 04:57 AM
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how strong is the “financial abortion” lobby again? it’s not exactly a widely supported issue even among men right now. For the past several decades women have generally had the right to abortion in the US. In many states that is no longer the case since the Dobbs decision that overruled Roe. Going forward, "financial abortion" will be the only foolproof way for women to unilaterally relieve themselves of parental obligations in these states.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 04:53 AM
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Not only because if nobody does, they’ll have to pick up the bill, No, they will get adopted.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 04:50 AM
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I think you don't realize how common it was for men to avoid parental responsibility in the past. Regardless, I think they will want to let women opt out and if they do that they have to give men that option as well. Existing safe haven laws are already gender neutral and fathers can drop off unwanted babies at designated sites, the only caveat is that the mother will find out and can contest during parental termination process.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 04:49 AM
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I can easily see conservative states telling men to man up and take responsibility. If you didn't wrap up during sex, it's your financial problem now. The point is they want to give women a way out, and legally they would probably have to give men the same option as well or risk an equal protection clause lawsuit. As I've said, safe haven laws in every state already allow fathers to drop off their babies, although he will still likely end up having to pay child support if the mother finds out an…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 04:30 AM
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For a while yes, probably not when they get older and want to settle down and have a family. Hence, AF/BB.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 03:32 AM
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I gave specific and detailed reasons why I think it may well become "a thing" in my post. If you're not going to address the points then why bother commenting.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 03:31 AM
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No matter how much soy you guzzle, or how often you proclaim yourself a feminist "ally", man-hating women will never view you positively. Stop trying to placate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 03:30 AM
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I doubt biology is the main reason women choose to have abortions. 18 years of childrearing is an exponentially greater burden than 9 months of gestation.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 03:29 AM
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Most married couples, especially more traditional ones, completely combine their finances 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 03:17 AM
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IMO women can whatever standards they want, but the problem is when they outright deny having high standards when faced with guys that struggle to get dates. Instead they overwhelmingly assert that it must be due to incompetence, toxicity, laziness, or some other kind of moral failing on his part. When the reality is that most men who struggle are in that situation because they lost the genetic lottery.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 03:14 AM
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Christian adoption agencies make bank selling babies after all, as long as they are healthy, white and young. Babies get adopted out regardless of race, the waiting list is literally years long. And the vast majority of babies do not have significant health issues. And it's kind of a given that unwanted babies put up for adoption will be young. But that does not mean women are going to want to give their babies for adoption. As of right now sure, since they can get child support from the baby da…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 03:04 AM
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Because of biology, those are your choices. Choices are not restricted by biology, choices are restricted by law.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 02:55 AM
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Reproductive rights is a distinct concept from bodily autonomy, it refers to the general ability to decide if, when, and how many children you want to have. For instance, a ban on the possession of contraception, which does not infringe on bodily autonomy per se, would be considered a restriction on an individuals reproductive rights. If women can opt out of parenthood, post-conception, via abortion and men don't have the same ability then that represents an inequality in reproductive rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 02:54 AM
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And women have contraceptive options too, and can choose to abstain from sex, yet that doesn't stop abortion rights advocates from talking about a "woman's choice". Clearly I am talking about the choice to opt out of parenthood after unwanted conception, same as them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 02:49 AM
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Every single penny earned by a married person is considered to be jointly owned by the couple.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 02:47 AM
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First, if the state has the option to make someone pay for the child, they will always do so. Unwanted babies are almost always successfully adopted out, because the demand to adopt babies is so high(not the same for older children in the foster system). The state won't need to pay anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 02:46 AM
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Why is it a "dumb take"? Am I wrong about pro-life politicians generally being supportive of adoption and safe surrender laws? Am I wrong that they would to reduce incentives for illicit abortions?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 02:45 AM
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you have no chance at “financial abortions.” you cant unilaterally give up a child thats been born. As of right now no. But if enough women complain about being forced to pay child support for unwanted children, and if pro-life state governments realize that providing a foolproof way out for unwilling parents can reduce illicit abortions, then I think that seems very likely.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 02:44 AM
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You didn't even read my post, did you? You are sacrificing your freedom from an unwanted pregnancy and unwanted children Currently, men have no freedom. Men have no choice. Men are completely subject to the whims and wishes of their baby mommas.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 02:41 AM
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Hope she sees this bro 🙏
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 12:32 AM
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Cooking, cleaning, or child rearing doesn't mean you're excused from contributing to household finances.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 12:32 AM
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Come on, that's like saying getting into UPenn is easier than getting into Harvard.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 08:44 PM
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If most women were satisfied with their dating lives there wouldn't be an astronomical amount of bitching we see from women about men and dating everywhere. But alas.......
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 08:42 PM
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Right because losing thousands of dollars per year is no big deal
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 08:39 PM
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You have to pay child support. I said "raise and support"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 08:39 PM
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Those are cool words but frankly the US federal government has already gone past their constitutional limits.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 08:36 PM
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idk those dudes look pretty young
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 08:34 PM
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Female entitlement, exhibit A.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 08:30 PM
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I don't understand how women can expect us to sympathize with them being forced to raise and support unwanted children after states started banning abortions. This has always been the case for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 08:27 PM
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Good examples, I agree, those are believable and plausible methods of deception. Have you or any woman you know ever been subject to that?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 11:19 AM
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this is coercive How is it coercive if no one is being forced to drink?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 05:32 AM
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So better to be a secret, seething (but quiet about it) slut shamer? I don't think not wanting to wife up a slut means he's seething. You can recognize that promiscuous women tend to be worse partners, and avoid them for anything serious, without hating them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 04:58 AM
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Why would women take their chances at a club when they can open Tinder on their phone and have their pick of chads in the area lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 04:55 AM
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My bad I thought my sarcasm was obvious. It was, you were kind of strawmanning me. Yeah the jaded “nice guys” who blame their niceness for not getting women are not actually nice people Again, by "nice guy" I'm referring to agreeable men in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 04:49 AM
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in order to get someone to have sex with you using deception and emotional manipulation. Could you give some examples of what this "deception" or "emotional manipulation" might look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 04:47 AM
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that's a strong way of putting it but research I've seen indicates that less agreeable men tend to be more successful with men. all else being equal the douchebag is probably going get more interest than the nice dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 04:42 AM
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If you're a guy and you go down the andrew tate/new manosphere route and start being a vocal slut hater you're only shooting yourself in the foot. Girls will be less willing to fuck and fuck early if they think you'll judge them harshly for it. It's fine to not to want to get seriously involved with a slut but for your own sake, and for the sake of decency, stop crying so much about women's sex lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 04:38 AM
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what country do u live in?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 04:35 AM
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Thats a reach because most girls don't wear push up bras or heels anymore this isn't 2005. Heels definitely, though I don't consider those to be deceptive because they're quite visible. Makeup but he probably saw her with no makeup as well and most girls wear natural style makeup. Depends on how long they've been together. The first few dates/hookups I doubt he would see her without makeup, unless she stays the night or something and goes to the trouble of taking it off. And "natural style" make…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 04:34 AM
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How would you differentiate it from someone who is being honest? It would be hard to, which is why I agree saying those things when you don't actually feel that way is deceptive. It's just not exactly "promising commitment".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 04:29 AM
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"Nice guys" as in "highly agreeable and kind men".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 04:28 AM
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No, but they sure are adamant that a woman’s job, education I don't think trad larper teens on PPD are representative of men as a whole. Most guys are not interested in being a sole provider and expect a partner who can pull their weight financially. I don't see why men should care about education so long as their job is okay, unless you're an elitist who thinks who haven't been to university are beneath you. Education is not that important in the grand scheme of things, for most people it's jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 04:24 AM
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TikTok openly saying they find short men repulsive This is pretty believable and common and that they only want to date millionaires. This isn't, and I doubt they're being 100% serious or that many women feel that way
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 04:18 AM
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seek professional help 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 04:16 AM
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Using any sort of substance to get her to be more vulnerable with you Does this include cases where she voluntarily and knowingly consumes a certain substance, like cannabis or alcohol?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 04:04 AM
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Good examples, but those aren't really "promising commitment" per se. More like saying shit to make her think you want to commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 02:24 AM
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The scenario you described can make sense but "love bombing" and "implying a future" doesn't necessarily mean promising commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 02:22 AM
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My thoughts as well tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 02:22 AM
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The man (classmate) convinced her that, in their religion, all they needed to do in order to be married was to state aloud that they were married Muslim?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 02:21 AM
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how many escorts have u met that cook and clean for their clients.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 02:21 AM
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Slut shaming is a societal concept that has been around for a few centuries. And if it wasn't still common then women wouldn't be bitching as much as they do lmao. Hi, I'd like to order a McDouble, but first you should know I've had sex with 12 men. Could I get that without tomatoes? Thanks". I mean I could say the same about your argument. "Hi I'd like a Big Mac, but first you should know that I don't want a relationship with you".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 12:56 AM
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Palestinians cannot catch a break lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 12:55 AM
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Well she didn't make that clear. And if that was the case, is it possible that he ended the relationship because he thought the sex was bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 12:55 AM
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I'm sure there are but this specific method described doesn't make a lot sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 12:52 AM
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It's not a secret that makeup exists but it can be hard to tell if an individual woman is wearing makeup. Many forms of makeup are designed to be hard to notice, such as concealer and foundation. If a woman uses makeup to make her look a certain way, and it's not blatantly obvious that it's due to make up(like eye shadow or lipstick would usually be obvious for instance), then it's deceptive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 12:51 AM
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Did they literally call these women their "girlfriend", or did the women hear what they want to hear?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 11:15 PM
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If that was the case then women wouldn't be complaining about "slut-shaming" as much as they do. So by your logic why isn't it also lying for women to not disclose their sexual history history to every guy they meet?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 11:15 PM
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That doesn't change the fact that makeup can be deceptive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 11:11 PM
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Who cares about someone's sexual past? Many if not most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 11:10 PM
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he lies that he will commit, the woman sleeps with him because she believes him Why would you believe a man making vague promises that he will commit in the future? If he has genuinely decided that he wanted a relationship he wouldn't wait. Alternatively, if he merely said that he's "looking for a relationship" that's not a promise.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 11:10 PM
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Most people wouldn't consider merely not telling people things to constitute "lying"..... Would it also be lying for a woman with an extensive sexual past to not disclose that to guys she's dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 11:03 PM
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Do you think not voluntarily telling people that you're not interested in a relationship is "deceit"? If so, why?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 11:00 PM
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I've never heard of a guy ghosting after acknowledging a chick as his "girlfriend" 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 09:31 PM
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a man said he was interested in a committed relationship with me so I felt safe to begin a sexual relationship I don't really get this, if they expressly say they want a committed relationship and you do too then why not DTR now? Why wait? and then he changed his mind. If he genuinely changed his mind, as opposed to knowing that he didn't want a relationship from the start, that wasn't lying. Of course you have no way of knowing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 09:30 PM
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i think sometimes women get their hopes up and assume they are in a relationship but no conversation has been had to establish that. i wouldn’t consider that being tricked I strongly agree with this part.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 09:29 PM
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would be men promising commitment I highly doubt that a man would ever promise to have a relationship in the future, the concept itself makes zero sense. If someone was sure they wanted relationship then they would offer to define the relationship starting now.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 09:26 PM
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Lying about their jobs, finances, etc. as well. Women deceive men about their personal characteristics every time they downplay their sexual history, or even put on makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 09:25 PM
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Has this happened to you or to someone you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 09:24 PM
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From your own personal or from stories of women you know, what does this look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 09:24 PM
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Throwing insults that are blatantly and obviously untrue will make you look like an idiot.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 04:16 PM
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That's a very feminine mindset. Many men would disagree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 04:15 PM
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damn sounds goated why did she dump u
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 05:01 AM
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Well then logically people should avoid interracial marriage then bruh
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 07:23 PM
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Age gap relationships end in divorce Then don't get married. They dismiss things like different life stages, bad power dynamics, stigma, lack of similarities, family planning challenges I don't see why family planning would be relevant here, both parties can still use contraception methods. I'm not sure what kind of "power" an older man would have over a younger either unless she was financially dependent on him. But many if not most relationships involve a significant degree of financial depend…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 07:21 PM
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How would you define a "need"?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 06:59 PM
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My (28m) boyfriend just asked me (28f) how many men I have slept with. Litteraly just now in this moment. He is out having a smoke and a beer because I guess me saying I don't want to tell him stresses him out. I have been with multiple partners. And I know that my boyfriend has only been with a handful of partners and I believe a 1 nighter. My number of Boyfriends and hookups exceed his by far. Honestly I've never been ashamed of it, until now. I have told him all about the boyfriends, and a fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 03:40 AM
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No one is an "asshole" merely for being an addict IMO, but yeah looking for a boyfriend to provide you with drugs seems risky AF.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 06:47 PM
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I'm just saying, most incels and black pill guys are just as hypergamous as they claim women to be. How would you know this?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 09:06 PM
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nice projection
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 05:43 PM
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Ugly/mid bitches who can't get chad to commit lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 04:51 PM
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Wrong And this is just for childless couples. The disparities would be even more significant more all couples, likely not only due to maternal burden but also selection.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 04:51 AM
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I'm not white...... They like tall kpop looking dudes. The overwhelming majority of Asian guys are not very tall and do not look like kpop stars lmao. And that's not mutually exclusive with liking white guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 04:45 AM
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But it’s not in Japan, South Korea, Singapore, Hong Kong, any developed Asian country. Maybe it's not as easy compared to SEA but it's still pretty for easy for white guys. Most east/southeast asian women love white guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 02:54 AM
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Average white guys don't need to pay hookers to get laid consistently in SEA.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 02:49 AM
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Not sure why you need proof for something we all know and have doubtless seen yourself if you spend any time on the internet and around other men, though. Nope and nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 08:16 PM
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Men marry because they want to. This isn't really a convincing point, people do things themselves that end up hurting them significantly because they "want to" all the time, like using opioids for instance. "That poor guy" probably knew exactly what his wife did with men before him and was fine with that. How would you know that? Research has shown that women downplay their sexual history. If women are willing to lie to random researchers who can't affect their lives in the slightest, then they …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 08:11 AM
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From a business standpoint, it's a terrible decision. It's pretty sweet for most women, legally combining finances with someone who in all likelihood earns significantly more than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 08:03 AM
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Do you actually people posting CMVs are looking to have their minds changed? They just want to soapbox. but want to pontificate on the sexual and relationship habits of other people? That's rich, women are unable to resist doing this all the time. Look at how much they seethe at Leo because he dates young models.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 08:02 AM
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My ears used to stick out and I got plastic surgery to have them pinned back. Government paid for it too lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 07:50 AM
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Yeah and you said there was a thread where multiple men admitted to doing this. I mean if you think most men do this the onus is on you to prove it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 05:08 AM
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my nigga speaking facts
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 04:24 AM
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Batting in your league
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 04:08 AM
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You said there was a thread where "men" were admitting to this, this is just one dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 05:47 PM
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What thread? Anyone can claim that they've seen anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 07:33 AM
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In most contexts your sexual skills are only relevant once you manage to get your foot in the door with looks/game. That's the problem for most incels/struggling guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 07:30 AM
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If the person said that they totally want sex/a relationship from you and bailed the second they got something else, be it a free dinner or sex, that's also considered a dick move. Which is more or less OP's point. It's not socially acceptable to criticize women for backing out of sex in ANY situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 07:25 AM
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Because men proudly tell on themselves online and in all-male company and some repeat this pattern over and over Can you give a singular example of this? I've certainly never seen men advocate for lying about their intentions to get laid. Not even TRP, if anything they advocate for the opposite, saying that men SHOULDN'T indicate interest in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 07:21 AM
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I doubt that any value judgement is truly universally held, and even if it was it's still a value judgement. The bottom line is that whatever behaviors you deem "bad", others may not agree with that assessment. Two things you mentioned, "being disrespectful" and "not pulling their weight", are very vague. People have a wide variety of views on what constitutes disrespect or dependence. If a woman earns significantly less than her male partner without doing more housework, would she be failing to…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 06:48 AM
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i did not just see one of you mfs here say that liking plushies and being scared of bugs is feminine Women are far more likely to be interested in plushies and be scared of bugs, so yes, it's accurate to describe those things feminine. ask men to describe feminine women and then ask them to describe children and their answers will be around the same. Because many feminine traits align with neotenous(childlike) traits. Women have bigger foreheads, smaller jaws, larger and shallower eyes, rounder …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 07:03 PM
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Most men here aren't Japanese.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 06:55 PM
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What constitutes "bad behavior" is a value judgement.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 06:53 PM
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Girl I hooked up with in high school pops up on pornhub's front page every once in a while. You can't say this and not provide a link my man.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 06:52 PM
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Women's are psychic when it comes to detecting that you post in some obscure internet forums, but apparently they also frequently get end up with abusive guys who hid their true nature? I guess chads jawline scrambles their misogyny detectors or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 06:49 PM
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Women getting with men for their money doesn't exist? you rn:
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 06:25 PM
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my flair is a great at detecting weebs. they usually assume that it refers to some obscure schoolgirl anime instead of a popular soviet folk song from ww2.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 06:20 PM
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what does your flair mean? i'm curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 06:19 PM
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Partially yeah, but I think most women, globally, tend to find white guys more physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 06:18 PM
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Johnny isn't wrong but he needs to touch grass lmao. He's the most active poster here by far.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 06:13 PM
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Why would we need to? If childless men in relationships are significantly outearning their female counterparts then it's safe to assume that will be the case in most of these relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 11:36 AM
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Nothing that is relevant to the point I'm making regarding the median. Half of the people sampled earn more than that figure and half earn less.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 11:24 AM
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You also can't differentiate between median and standard deviation. You're just making shit up at this point. I have taken a stats class and I know what standard deviation is. But it's not relevant to the median. Standard deviation is for means.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 11:20 AM
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I think girls do better in school primarily because they're more complaint, more willing to do what they're told, compared to boys. Unfortunately that is essentially what education is about.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 11:12 AM
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Touch grass lmao. I don't think you can read or even understand what you're writing. You mentioned maternity leave, that doesn't apply to pregnant women who are expecting their first child. Maternity leave is for raising a newborn after you give birth. How many pregnant women do you think there are at any given moment, and planning on carrying it to term? How many of those pregnant women are currently childless. And women can and usually do work their normal job throughout most of pregnancy. Pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 11:06 AM
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Im asking this because I really want to prove to "bl*ckpillers" that women arent as shallow as men and care more about personality/neurotypicality than a guy's appearance. So you've already come to a conclusion and you're looking to cherry pick evidence to support your preconceived beliefs? And to top it off you're telling this to the people you're asking, something which will inevitably influence their answers?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 10:31 AM
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True, ultimately the evo-psych people need to realize that our higher brain functions allow us to completely sidestep a lot of "instinct" around any of these ultimately social constructs Which instincts are being generally "sidestepped"? The most fundamental ones, sex and food, clearly haven't been. Look at the obesity crisis. Humans are suffering from living in a society with abundant, calorie-dense, food. Because innate human feeding behaviors are adapted to calorie-scarce environments. We can…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 10:12 AM
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The former. Natural selection is what made humans what they are today. Virtually everything about you evolved to facilitate successful reproduction in some way.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 10:06 AM
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Is it the same men saying these things? Do you think men are a hivemind?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 09:36 AM
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Sometimes those are synonymous. Women, in many ways, are more "childlike" than men. I think it may be the case here, I know many college age young women that still have plushies.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 09:35 AM
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Girls do better in school than boys do 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 09:28 AM
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"X to doubt". People generally understand the concepts of sex, dating, relationships, etc, by the their mid/late teens, so it's hard to argue that they can't meaningfully consent to those things. That's where the age of consent is set in most jurisdictions.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 09:25 AM
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The Supreme Court ruling only addressed race-based AA, with no mention of sex-based AA. I doubt that there's a general policy of favoring women in college admissions, maybe for certain male-dominated STEM programs like engineering/CS.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 09:21 AM
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Women aren't necessarily going to treat you the same way that they would treat men they're dating or have dated.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 09:20 AM
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They are different but the person you are responding to was talking about "getting a girl into bed". If she agrees to sex with a condom you've already achieved that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 02:32 AM
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Not saying upfront that you're not interested in a relationship is not being deceitful. It's entitled to assume that guys are interested in a relationship. Many if not most men who have casual sex are open to having a relationship as well. That doesn't mean they would definitely want a relationship with you, and women often end up disappointed when they assume that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 10:20 PM
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Stealthing happens in situations where women have already agreed to sleep with them. It's irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 10:18 PM
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No it's more like progressive saying that poor people are more likely to steal than rich people because they have less money to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 10:17 PM
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but men will play games to get it. What "games"?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 10:17 PM
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The attention and “generosity” they get is only sexual meaning, the only reason they are helping her is to possibly have sex. This is a reductionist view, most men are interested in relationships and eventually marriage. Any attraction is based on a body being considered hot You don't need to be "hot" for men to be interested in you. I was explicitly talking about "moderately attractive" women. My point is that what you call generosity always comes with strings attached. Women are under no oblig…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 10:14 PM
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I often hear about men desiring a woman who submits to him. A vocal minority of manosphere men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 08:00 AM
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How do you think a moderately attractive woman is treated? I think if they put themselves out there, they will get plenty of attention from, and be treated generously, by men. Many guys will do favors for them, pay for dates and other relationship expenses, pay more towards living expenses if they're cohabitating, etc. This generosity can even come from guys who they aren't dating or sleeping with, who hope to win them over. The difference between them and the most attractive women is that they …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 07:56 AM
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Being treated like a woman who's at least moderately attractive would obviously be great, but I don't want that enough to become trans lmao. And even if I did most men don't like MtFs, and if you transition after puberty it's very difficult to pass.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 06:16 PM
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make them simp for me and spend money on me 💯
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 04:30 PM
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ppd female humanoids, what do u think of men with weak lower faces that grow big beards to hide it?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 08:23 AM
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Men always act like not getting casual sex is the biggest problem. Can't say I've seen many incels complain about a lack of casual sex specifically, they're upset because they don't have any kind of sexual/romantic relationship. If you compare the lack of sex to real problems like poverty or sickness a lack of sex doesn't seem like a legitimate problem. Have you ever complained about anything other than poverty or sickness? It would be like women complaining that men dont give them free money. P…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 05:34 AM
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its a soviet folk song.....
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 04:08 AM
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no, chicken marsala
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 04:08 AM
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isn't that an old people dish
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 03:37 AM
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my dad would probably be ecstatic if I brought a girl home lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 03:36 AM
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Is it a mostly male workplace? If so, how much sexism have you faced?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 03:35 AM
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i am a college educated woman, but i have worked mostly in blue collar trades positions. <image> what do you do
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 03:23 AM
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That could be a return to poverty As I said, womp womp. That's how she was living before. Not to mention that a sudden loss of your whole or most of your livelihood is likely to end up with you worse off than before. How? What did she "lose"? She can just go back to whatever she was doing before. or being deported for a start If you didn't immigrate illegally that's not going to happen. And I doubt that would be the case, in the US(and in most countries I think) it's relatively easy to immigrate…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 12:42 AM
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In the scenarios he gave(sugar dating and marrying a foreign woman), the only "difficulty" is that the women would return to their lifestyles before meeting them. Womp womp.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 05:59 PM
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If he feels he's even slightly uncomfortable on he can discard her at a moment's notice, whereas she may not be free to do so. You think being a gold digger is the only way to make a living? and he is the one seeking this whole arrangement out Bullshit. Both sugar daddies and sugar babies seek out the arrangement.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 03:45 PM
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Any trait associated with the male sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 03:44 PM
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Mediocre and ugly women get plenty of attention from men. Stop projecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 05:20 AM
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Do you have a source? And how much of that is due to working less? Frankly that's a valuable thing in of itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 05:19 AM
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I think you're strawmanning. I've seen very few manosphere men here speak in absolutes, they usually describe general trends. And this has little to do with neuroticism, it has more to do with systemizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 10:25 PM
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Dating is not logical. It’s not scientific. Human attraction and mating behaviors can absolutely be the subject of scientific investigation, as is the case with any other animal. Observing that human females prefer taller men is not fundamentally different from, say, observing that peahens prefer to mate with peacocks with larger and more colorful tail plumage.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 10:23 PM
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"Be the best option" usually isn't realistic. A somewhat more attainable goal is to be good enough for them to be genuinely attracted to you, not just your money.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 07:11 PM
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Can you provide some statistics? Or provide some examples of female celebrities/models in their 40s who've never been married and don't have kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 07:06 PM
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Not if you view beauty/attractiveness in a relative sense. I mean in the context of dating that's what matters. If you rate yourself as more attractive but also rate women as being more attractive, then it doesn't really show that you're trying to "bat out of your league".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 03:20 PM
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How many women do you think genuinely don't want marriage or lifelong commitment, and are happy to live the eternal bachelor lifestyle that leo does?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 03:10 PM
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I think one of the main reasons Leo dates younger chicks and breaks up with them after a few years is that he doesn't want to get married. Most women, especially older women, will start pushing for that after some time. I read somewhere that one of his exes, Bar Refaeli, was pressuring him for more commitment before they broke up.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 05:14 AM
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Lets say guy has full time remote software engineering job, makes 100k. Even though its a full time 40 hour gig, he only works 10-15 hours a week due to his skill and his company having a good work-life-balance culture. And they only see how much he works now, not how much he busted his ass when he was younger to get to where he is now.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 03:23 AM
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A few SAHM Can you read? This is exclusively examining childless couples. I said as much in a previous comment. And the cbhhtype selection filter clearly indicates that the household type selected is married couples with no own children < 18 in the house. There's also no accounting for same sex couples. The vast, vast, majority of married couples in the US are opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 03:20 AM
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I redid his main analysis in IPUMS this time including median income and the results are pretty similar: https://preview.redd.it/x9yi17jmh3eb1.png?width=1468&format=png&auto=webp&s=fa11819466d86826026f26d6ddf94edbba63108b
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 11:17 AM
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Keep beating that strawman bucko.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 11:13 AM
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If I'm a sociopath, then what does that make women, who regularly kill their own "flesh and blood" through abortion?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 11:12 AM
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how successful are you with women as a middle eastern guy in montreal? do white chicks like your kind?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 06:18 AM
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If you're a wealthier guy, consider freezing your sperm and getting a vasectomy instead of relying on condoms. There is nothing that bitches won't do to try and lock you down.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 06:16 AM
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😎
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 05:47 AM
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Why do you think that is? Do they want attention from men or do they just like how it looks? I don't get why someone would want attention from a bunch of horny internet randos if they're not getting $$$ from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 05:46 AM
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I didn't say to marry them lol. Ive seen it with my own family. Similar story with mine, but my mom's wealth was from my grandpa.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 05:43 AM
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Are they trying to attract specific men?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 05:34 AM
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I think they do it so they can attract specific men I think this is what women sexualizing themselves usually boils down to. Either that or it's transactional. or they are a cosplayer who wants to show off their hard work. If that's their intent then I don't think it counts as a thirst trap.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 05:33 AM
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better than me dude
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 05:26 AM
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Successful career women are great tbh, they're less likely to want to leech off of you and less likely to be leftist.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 05:24 AM
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Face it, if you want a woman who isn't after your money, she's gonna be a leftist liberal feminist. If women on Reddit are anything to judge by, left-wing feminists aren't much different in that respect. The constant dehumanization and hostility towards men contributes to that. If you think men are oppressive and privileged then why wouldn't you be okay with milking them for all they're worth? In the last post I made, I didn't see a single woman who endorsed a 50/50 split on expenses if one part…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 05:16 AM
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What can I say, mommy should have given them up for adoption 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 05:12 AM
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Returning to your home country isn't that difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 05:11 AM
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All of the hobosexuals How many men are "hobosexuals"? I'd think that term is far more likely to be applicable to women, since it's overwhelmingly women that offer sex in exchange for money and other things of value. who think they aren't get enough sex for their payments I mean if you put it that way, those dudes would be willing if they got the kind of relationship they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 05:08 AM
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No, I can't. And seeing as how you haven't bothered to point out any I'm guessing you can't either.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 05:04 AM
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Amen to that 🙏 Women, I implore you, please listen to her advice and stop leeching off of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 11:37 PM
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its always nice to see a fellow landchad in the wild
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 11:36 PM
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Do they get to share in the profits they help create? Why should they get a share of the profits when they never invested in the business and took on a share of the risk in case the business failed? Leftists want privatized losses and socialized profits. It's absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 11:35 PM
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Maybe not in the long term, but not everyone can save up for a down payment. Not to mention that many people need to move for work if they can't do their job remotely.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 11:34 PM
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keep seething rentoid lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 11:29 PM
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u/CapsuleCorpLogo I think you've said before that women like you but you prefer anime girls. How much interest from women(3d obviously) do you actually get? Or are you just a weebcel larping as a chad?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 11:28 PM
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Some guys are so undesirable they struggle to get anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 11:26 PM
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why do they do that? have you ever asked them?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 11:25 PM
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The clitoris is right next to the vulva, it's not as if smells and/or buildup from that won't be noticeable.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 11:24 PM
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i doubt there are many tween boys, or even high schoolers, here.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 11:08 PM
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FDS vetting works for less desirable men, but that's a moot point because they want chad. Why would chad put up with a chubby, ugly, FDS user's bullshit when they have plenty of nicer and better-looking chicks that are interested? FDS users greatly overestimate their value lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 11:06 PM
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Not if you have foreign citizenship in a country with no enforcement agreement in the US 🗿. I've read about Saudi international students who just went home after they knocked up American chicks by accident. They can't do shit to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 11:04 PM
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Condoms can fail. Or be sabotaged.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 11:02 PM
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You can just pull it back to wash thoroughly. I would know.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 11:01 PM
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Shit like this makes me grateful to be an immigrant, I can always head back to my home country in the worst case scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 10:49 PM
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trash talking in a video game lobby is nowhere near as mean-spirited as picking on a little kid
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 10:47 PM
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I never picked on little kids when I was a tween/teen. Some kids are just shitheads.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 10:37 PM
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Why are tween girls so mean-spirited? I was with my little brother(8) out at the playground, and he was yelling and screaming while he was playing, as kids do, two of them decided to mock him. I let it go at first but they kept doing it so I yelled at those cunts to STFU.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 10:26 PM
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And I don't condone that so you're just arguing against a strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 10:25 PM
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If you think there's a problem feel free to point it out, otherwise I'm not going to waste any more time with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 08:49 PM
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If there are indeed "glaringly obvious problems" then you should be able to point it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 08:42 PM
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If you're so knowledgeable then surely you can point to some statistics on the prevalence of spousal maintenance during separation. If you can't then there's no reason to take you at your word just because of your degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 08:39 PM
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Thats because women tend to pick lower paying jobs that arent valued by society. Ok, and?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 08:36 PM
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Alot of high earning jobs nowadays are overpaid IMO and alot of harder jobs are underpaid. It doesnt mean anything, money is really just a figure of what society values more and often society is wrong. Jobs are paid according to how much others value the work, not how difficult it is. If I spend 10 hours a day digging holes and filling them back up, that's a difficult job. But I haven't really provided anything of value to others. Who made you the ultimate authority on deciding how valuable a jo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 08:02 PM
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Y'all destroy your fuck off time and then act all stressed out. Like, no one made you do that extra shit. You did that to yourself. In my fields, you cannot get by doing the bare minimum if you want to advance. but seeing as I know so many men with fuck off time in their jobs who only refuse to admit it when in a debate Why does it matter? At the end of the day, chances are he's bringing home a significantly bigger paycheck than she is.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 07:59 PM
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You're missing the point. In relationships there is often a division of labor. By that logic women are also incompetent if their partner pays more towards expenses because those women were likely self-sufficient in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 07:56 PM
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Posts like this make me wonder why guys want to have kids. I could very well be the sole provider, and will still do what I can with childcare, cause I want to have a relationship with my children. Sure, but there's still a lot of other work that needs to be done apart from childcare. If you want to fight over every little detail of who does what, marriage is not for you. This is exactly what women are guilty of when they bitch about men not doing enough around the house.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 07:52 PM
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I mean they're right next to each other, what are you gonna do, cover up the rest with plastic wrap? Still gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 07:50 PM
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sucking dick isn't equivalent to eating pussy, it's way easier to keep a dick clean because there aren't any flaps and folds.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 07:36 PM
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but perfectly acceptable for a woman to bear for a man's pleasure. That's not up to me, it's up to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 07:34 PM
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HIV primarily affects homosexual men and intravenous drug users, HIV transmission from PIV sex is incredibly unlikely. Whereas according to that article 1 in 9 men in the US are orally infected with HPV.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 07:14 PM
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I mean the position is kinda submissive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 07:07 PM
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"She's not interested in you because you won't do the dishes" is the biggest load of shit I've ever heard.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 07:00 PM
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How many men do you hear complaining about paying more towards households expenses? The vast majority are more than willing to.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 06:58 PM
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He's your husband though, OP is talking about how she treats guys she just started dating. It's not really the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 06:33 PM
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They define "egalitarian" marriages very broadly, as anything less than a 60/40 split. If one partner earns 60k a year and the other partner earns 40k a year, that would be labelled as "egalitarian" despite the former earning 50% more than the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 06:32 PM
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What "problems"?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 06:30 PM
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This is exactly what I'm talking about, you're devaluing men's contributions as providers just because they don't contribute in the ways you think they should.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 09:40 AM
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Even in childless couples men significantly outearn women: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/12l5b2u/male_vs_female_income_in_childless_couples/
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 09:39 AM
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Broadly, single men are underemployed, don’t own their own homes and frequently share rent with roommates. This post is about married/cohabitating men. Source? tasked with the mundane minutia of taking care of a grown man as though he’s a child. If he earns significantly more than you, then who's really taking care of who?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 04:57 AM
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Someone who's busting his ass for a paycheck is not "helpless" or "incompetent".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 04:55 AM
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How many minor children do you know that are paying most of the household expenses?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 04:36 AM
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Why would I concern myself specifically with the participants of some random internet forum? I'm talking about men and women broadly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 04:35 AM
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Regardless of your own personal opinion on childrearing, this is the norm now.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 04:08 AM
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You ain't the provider if we're working the same, you just make more. We're both providing. If one party earns significantly more then they are the primary breadwinner. I'm sorry to say the jig was up the moment women got in the workplace and realized how much fucking off occurs in those typical 8 to 10 hour work days. No, you just have easier jobs than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 04:06 AM
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Rarely does a couple like this have a drastic income difference. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/12l5b2u/male_vs_female_income_in_childless_couples/ Even in childless couples there's a significant disparity in income.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 03:59 AM
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Roommates maintain separate finances and don't subsidize each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 03:58 AM
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Roommates maintain separate finances and don't subsidize each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 03:57 AM
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If you both work approximately the same hours housework needs to be split evenly regardless of who earns more Why? If a man takes longer to accomplish the same amount of housework than a woman because he's less efficient, does that mean his contributions should be viewed as equal?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 03:55 AM
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this tbh. if you view raising kids as just a chore then you shouldn't have them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 03:54 AM
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you think just because you work harder that you shouldn’t spend as much time taking of the place you live and spending time with your children. Yes, absolutely. If men are contributing more financially why isn't it fair for women to contribute more in other respects? raising a child is 1000x harder than any job Bullshit, you don't need to hover over a child 24/7, especially after the first few years. There are plenty of things parents can and do use to keep children occupied, such as digital dev…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 03:53 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/12l5b2u/male_vs_female_income_in_childless_couples/
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 03:51 AM
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Is it fair for you to expect your partner to contribute more to household finances while refusing to do a greater share of housework?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 01:10 AM
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I personally find it a bit unfair to jump down the throats of anyone that may slip up or have conflicting ideas because of that. But many of these same women do exactly that when it's men who express non-egalitarian ideas that don't benefit women. Methinks it's not merely a "slip up", it's just straight up double standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 01:07 AM
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You should tell that to all the women who complain about men being fuckboys that won't commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 01:06 AM
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Also you ignored the fact that if you don't get formally divorced, all assets remain collectively owned. Why would a man accept that for the rest of his life just to save on lawyer fees? Hell, he might not even need to go to court to get a divorce, the mere threat of divorce and having to pay for legal fees herself can bring a wife to the negotiating table. You're doing crazy mental gymnastics here to defend women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 01:05 AM
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Do you have any statistics?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 12:52 AM
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Regardless, alimony is not awarded in the vast majority of divorces so I doubt most would be successful even temporarily if they tried.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 12:27 AM
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we have proving the positive causation/correlation of marriage, it would make sense to propose the idea that marriage is good for people. You have yet to link any evidence of causation. "Good" is a value judgement. Earning more isn't necessarily desirable if you need to work more to achieve that, and honestly neither is being "healthier" if you have to give up certain foods or alcohol. On average married people seem to fare better than their unmarried counterparts though. I don't care about marr…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 09:02 PM
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https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7738077/ This study only examines married and cohabitating couples. "Eight percent of couples were white, 13% were non-white, and the remainder were racially mixed" The sample is also incredibly non-representative. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26004449/ This doesn't really change what I said, even if the decline usually begins before cohabitation, cohabitating couples will still tend to have less sex than non-cohabitating couples. men with disabilities and othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 07:53 PM
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link that shit
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 07:15 PM
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Bullshit, not as much paying what is effectively an ex-wife for the rest of your life, and everything you earn being jointly owned.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 07:08 PM
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He might do that, he might not. If you're already effectively divorced and he's getting milked then you bet your ass he will.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 05:40 PM
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These results indicate that a lower level of pay satisfaction induce married men to put more effort into their work, which leads to higher wages.” If it's because of harder work then it's not necessarily a desirable thing. They live longer and enjoy better physical health. Chicken or egg. or whose marriages ended in divorce or widowhood. Right and that's just under half of all marriages, usually initiated by the woman. You can't get married without also assuming the risk of divorce. They have mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 05:36 PM
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I was talking both about married couples and cohabitating couples. I think cohabitating couples have more sex, but it's probably linked to age, kids etc. Do you have a source for any of this? I was addressing your claim that highly undesirable men might be unhealthier. I don't think less men being more likely to get married is mutually exclusive with the least desirable men being less healthy. Being an incel certainly isn't good for your mental health.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 05:29 PM
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You can have children within a committed relationship. Having children unmarried doesn't necessarily mean being a single mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 05:27 PM
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If you're working that hard and still earning less than your partner maybe you should consider working less so you can do more of the housework/childcare.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 05:26 PM
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"It is in our nature to want to form deep connections with people outside of our immediate family. It is in our nature to want to create a new family with a loving and committed partner."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 05:19 PM
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If a man says he wants custody of his kids, but he gives up and doesn’t even try… does he really care that much about it? As I said, taking a divorce to court is really bad for the kids. It is useful if you personally want to lower your own risk of divorce. If you’re so fretful about divorce, paying attention to ways to lower your risk makes sense. There are only so many college-educated women to go around.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 05:19 PM
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https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2014/02/07/parenthood-and-happiness-its-more-complicated-than-you-think/ This is not broken down by sex. I don’t know if the studies categorize people into “fuckable” and “incels” Right, that's another problem. The vast majority of men that are desirable to women do end up getting married. Leaving only the least desirable men unmarried.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 05:13 PM
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You can get separate maintenance in most jurisdictions without filing for divorce. It’s a better deal because it can last indefinitely. If you do that, chances are he's going to file for divorce. I didn’t know it was typically women asking men for marriage. The proposal is just a formality, obviously women are going to discuss marriage and choose to date men they think are suitable for marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 05:12 PM
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I don't disagree but again, your view of those things is very narrow.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 05:07 PM
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Married people and coupled people generally have far more sex than singles. Far more sex than celibate people? Sure. Far more sex than non-cohabitating couples, or single people that are sexually active? I doubt it. Fucking 2-3 times a day takes a lot of time and energy whatever your gender is. Many married couples have sex once a week or less. It seems the research showed that men with health issues tend to hurry into marriage and have lower divorce rates. What does that have to do with what I …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 06:17 AM
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You were appealing to tradition and human biology to justify your views: "It’s a cultural norm in almost all cultures globally, throughout most of history. It is in our nature to want to form deep connections with people outside of our immediate family." But your conception of "traditional" human life, and "human nature", is very narrow.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 06:12 AM
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Source? And are they happier than non-married peers that are similarly desirable? Or are they merely happier than incels who aren't married because they get no interest from women? Because that's not a very high bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 06:10 AM
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Most people who get married stay married A slim majority. and lead objectively better lives compared to their non-married peers. Busting your ass to provide for an entitled wife is a "better life"?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 04:35 AM
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That's the problem with your assessment. Humans, and hominins broadly, have existed for far, far, longer than 3000 years. Sedentary agricultural societies are an anomaly.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 04:33 AM
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They tend to make more money once they are married. Is busting your ass to provide supposed to be a good thing? There are plenty of higher echelon jobs where marriage is makes a huge difference Such as? Do you have any evidence? You can get spousal support before a divorce petition is filed. Where? After that, marry someone who earn around what you earn. Most women choose men that earn significantly more than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 04:33 AM
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tell her she's ugly 🗿 that'll definitely be "unique"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 04:16 AM
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"Motherhood" is just a dumb excuse they made up because they don't want to put the fork down lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 04:13 AM
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Most cheaters try not to get caught.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 04:11 AM
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What are other ways to have kids that have two parents? In many developed, western, countries, it's not uncommon for children to be born to unmarried couples. I as a man would be happy to have more children with a woman with whom we agree on 50/50 custody from day one and no CS. Neither of those things would be enforceable even if you put it in a prenup. Nothing related to children is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 04:08 AM
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It's very foolish to believe that women will be as altruistic as yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 04:07 AM
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That doesn't mean the surge in bonding hormones that occurred earlier on in their relationship hasn't subsided. Nowhere in my post did I say that happy, lasting, marriages are impossible. Just that the odds aren't in our favor anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 04:05 AM
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I don't have anything against cat ladies and it's kind of cringy when guys complain about them. Unless those cat ladies are like the female version of MGTOW where the lifestyle goes hand in hand with trashing the opposite sex. Then they're fair game.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 04:03 AM
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People here are talking about getting bored with your partner not putting enough efforts, i.e. there were no date nights that they initiated for months or years Have you ever considered that maybe it's because married men are busting their ass to provide for their families?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 04:02 AM
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Don't be wuss and demand Equal financial contributions People aren't all spoiled children, they can't get what you want just by demanding it. If women don't want to go 50/50 finances in serious relationships(and by and large they don't) then men who insist on 50/50 have few or no options. Hence, avoiding marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 04:00 AM
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Being educated doesn't necessarily mean you earn more. In universities and colleges, men tend to dominate the majors with the best career outlooks, and women tend to dominate the majors with the worst. Men also dominate skilled trades, military/police, and other risky jobs. All of which pay well despite not requiring much education.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 03:59 AM
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Or, men could start caring about women’s careers and stop expecting them to take on most of the childcare and household responsibilities. Did you even read my post? Even in childless couples men significantly outearn women. Women by and large select men that earn more than them, and expect them to be the primary breadwinners. To also demand they do an equal share of housework and childcare is ridiculous. The only thing that irks me is how many men say “I can’t fuck your career,” only consider lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 03:57 AM
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It’s a cultural norm in almost all cultures globally, throughout most of history. Throughout most of history(written record) in sedentary society yes. But this is an anomaly. For the vast majority of their existence, hominins lived as hunter-gatherers with no writing systems. Men from hunter gatherer cultures are significantly less monogamous and less involved with childrearing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 03:53 AM
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Yeah but like…how are all the successful dudes so stupid then as to get married Street smarts vs. book smarts. People like to ignore statistics, the women here are a great example of that. No one gets married thinking that it will end in divorce. That's why prenups are so rare. And when people get married they see their partner as they are right now, young, attractive, pleasant, and in love. They don't foresee the annoying, cold, hag that she will in all likelihood become.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 03:52 AM
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And yet married men are the happiest Chicken/egg Also, source? healthiest Chicken/egg wealthiest Chicken/egg Also, they're expected to bust their ass to provide for their families. In what world is having money supposed to be good for me if I have no time to spend and enjoy it? And "their" wealth doesn't even belong to them entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 03:50 AM
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Even if women merely filtered out men that earned significantly less, the result would still be that men would significantly outearn women in relationships. Because many if not most women would end up with men that earn significantly more.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 03:47 AM
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mechanics and plumbers make bank tbh. those kinds of attitudes are just female snobbery and elitism at its finest.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 03:46 AM
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All of these problems would be solved if men started valuing the professional accomplishments of women and embracing truly shared parenting and partnership in the relationship. Women by and large want to settle down with men that earn more than them and expect men to be the primary or sole breadwinner, so they can take time off work to raise the children, at least when they're young. But instead we hear all the time about how men don’t want women with actual careers and don’t care about women’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 03:45 AM
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They don’t always decline. Pretty sure they do, it's science. It's less severe in some couples maybe. I think it’s more that younger generations jump ship instead of actually working on their relationships. Right, and judging by research on women losing interest, and women initiating divorces, I'd hazard a guess that it tends to be primarily women jumping ship. All the more reason for men to avoid marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 03:38 AM
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I said "just under half". 40% is still nothing to scoff at.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 03:37 AM
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It's expected that sex frequency will drop with time It drops like a rock for women. few people can afford having time or energy to keep fucking like teens or rabbits. Sex doesn't have to take that much time, or even energy if you're a woman. I know you're going to say that they do it because they know they'll lose, but there won't be any changes as long as men deem that fighting for the time with their kids isn't worth it for them. It's easy for you to say that men should fight for it when you'…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 03:36 AM
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Good for them for choosing to leave an unfulfilling relationship. Why do you expect men to stay in relationships that they aren't happy in? If women are so easily end up dissatisfied and men have so much to lose from divorce, then that proves my point exactly. Marriage isn't worth it for us anymore. Don't be boring then. This is as compelling as telling a poor person to stop being poor. When men get married, and especially when they have kids, they are expected to earn more money to support thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 12:14 AM
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Your marriage is an outlier 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 12:13 AM
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Of course, there is "love". But what people call "love" is just a bunch of bonding hormones that will inevitably decline with time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 11:57 PM
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least delusional foid
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 11:55 PM
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Have you ever hurt anyone close to you? Does that mean you didn't love them?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 11:55 PM
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But it is not my job to police how other people run their marriages. So you wouldn't care if a husband earned little/no income and did nothing around the house?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 11:54 PM
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You're not entitled to commitment. If you're failing to secure the commitment you want then you're failing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 11:53 PM
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If that was really the case then there would not be a shit ton of women complaining about men being fuckboys that won't commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 11:44 PM
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If men are failing, then women have flunked out.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 11:42 PM
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And frankly, if you cheat then you don’t really love her What makes you think that?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 11:40 PM
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This was over 40 years ago. Who cares about that? We're talking about the here and now. Despite the difficulties she still found a guy to shack up with(a guy she liked at that), which meant a roof over her head and food on her table. If a boy was in her situation would he have that option?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 11:39 PM
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You're a sucker if you want your wife to be a SAHM. Raising children isn't even close to the burden of a full time job(realistically a sole provider would probably have to work more than 40 hrs a week to provide). There are plenty of things keeping them occupied without you needing to hover over them(school, TV, video games, playing outside with friends) and by the time they reach fifth grade or so they can be left home alone. And what happens if, say, the last leaves the nest by the time you're…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 11:23 PM
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Most women have a large pool of men to choose from.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 07:12 PM
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None of those spaces are suitable for boys like Boy Scouts are.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 12:47 AM
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Link?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 12:23 AM
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"Evil" is a bit hyperbolic, but they have the power to ruin your life. Many will, women initiate the vast majority of divorces. Women tend to get bored of their partners in relationship more than men. That's enough reason to avoid marriage if you're a man. Keep some spice in your relationship There's no way to do that if your wife is bored of you and never interested in sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 12:18 AM
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At least where I've lived on the coast, I see Asian guys (some who are short or pretty ugly) with cute white girls all the time. Anything is possible if you're a developer earning big bucks
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 12:13 AM
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"Stop being poor" is not a very compelling response. Male spaces, especially spaces for boys to learn and develop together, need to be accessible to average people and families.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 12:02 AM
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Apart from the strip club/muscle car show these are all upper class activities. Something like the boy scouts is much more accessible to people of all means.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 11:09 PM
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Reported for transphobia 💅
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 11:07 PM
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Have to use birth control with a long list of side effects "because condoms dont feel as good to guys". Most women will have some negative affects of birth control. There are benefits of hormonal birth control as well, such as controlling acne. Sometimes it's prescribed solely for this purpose. Most men can orgasm every time but women often cant. This is simply due to anatomical differences, it's harder for women to orgasm from PIV sex. The rest of your reasons all have to do with pregnancy/chil…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 06:37 PM
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I admire single career women in a way, they are making their own wealth and fortune instead of leeching off of a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 06:25 PM
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It usually accounts for things like who has primary custody(this is on top of child support that would be owed), and the future earning potential of the spouses, both of which favor women. https://www.divorcenet.com/states/new_york/nyfaq04 https://www.sterlinglawyers.com/illinois/property-division/splitting-assets-divorce/#:~:text=Illinois%20is%20an%20%E2%80%9Cequitable%20distribution,current%20situation%20and%20future%20needs. https://www.kaypolkfamilylaw.com/blog/2020/december/is-texas-a-50-50…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 06:22 PM
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You have to divide up property that you shared with your spouse, but that's just because it was never fully yours to begin with. Men usually contribute far more to family wealth, and most states have "equitable" asset division laws that favor women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 06:04 PM
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I rarely see men shirtless here except for at the beach or pool 🤷‍♂️ and you wanna cry about short skirts and crop tops? No one here but you is crying lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 12:39 AM
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Yeah, because guys are allowed to go completely topless. Which guys are going topless in public except for at the beach/pool?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 12:12 AM
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Guys don't wear tiny skirts, tiny shorts, and crop tops all the time and somehow we're fine. And apparently women are more comfortable at higher temperatures than men. If women didn't insist on showing off their bodies so much maybe we'd get fewer articles like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 10:27 PM
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the reality is that "going for virgin/inexperienced women" essentially means going for teenagers, because the vast majority of women have some experience by their early 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 06:51 PM
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"i wear it for me teehee"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 06:49 PM
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just be aware that she's not tricking you. Makeup is a genuine skill This is not mutually exclusive with makeup being deceitful. that means she's mastered an arcane art and should be awed. It's not your place to tell men what they should admire.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 04:16 PM
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how do you tell if a woman is wearing hair dye irl instead of being a natural blonde/red head/brunette? You don't. How do you tell if a girl is wearing makeup or other things to conceal appearance? You don't,
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 04:15 PM
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I'm guessing this contributes to the stereotype of middle eastern migrants being sexually predatory. But hey, if it gets him results, good for him. Fuck the haters.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 04:14 PM
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And he would not have been her boyfriend if she had not chosen him. At the very least there is causal responsibility on her part.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 07:56 AM
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You define "power" very differently than most people do.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 07:40 AM
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You're mixing up cause and effect. Young women are getting so much male attention because the majority of young men struggle, if not fail, at attracting women. So there are plenty of single and involuntarily celibate men out there looking to change that. Why do so many men struggle? Because women are very selective and are primarily interested in the most desirable men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 07:38 AM
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Most women have plenty of options for relationships, they just don't think those options are good enough for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 05:35 AM
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I don't think that is mutually exclusive with power. Great kings and emperors often met their end at the tip of an assassin's dagger, due to the fact that they possessed what others coveted the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 05:31 AM
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Men need to stop pretending them getting a date is actually a display of feminine soft power because they spend a few bucks on coffee or bought dinner. Dinner at most sit-down restaurants is pretty expensive these days, especially with drinks. You trying to pay for sex is not soft power. Women being able to leverage this for self-gain is soft power on their part.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 05:30 AM
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But you can use male thirst to your own advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 09:00 PM
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Sexuality is a tool often used to control women and place them in a restricted sphere. How does this happen in developed, western, countries today?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 08:59 PM
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I get paid way more with my job Do you earn more than most women? Surely he’d catch on and stop paying me For some guys it takes quite a while for that to happen. Can you explain how to use this supposed power for anything actually useful? I find free stuff and favors to be pretty useful.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 08:59 PM
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No one but you is trying to point fingers here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 08:57 PM
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Even mediocre and ugly women get plenty of male attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 05:40 AM
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Women are attracted to older men because resources. They're attracted to their money for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 05:22 PM
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I wonder if it's because asian cultures value education and status a lot more, than westerners No, it's because asians women LOVE white guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 03:13 PM
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What's the problem with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 03:03 PM
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"Unless you think 13-year-olds are adult women because 'back in the olden days', and I'm not willing to take any chances here on this sub and assume your thinking isn't the latter." ......
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 04:27 AM
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You post here nonstop I'm starting to think you probably don't have your shit together.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 03:55 AM
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Like I said..... And? What about what I said do you take issue with? As I said, neither is consensual, the only difference is that the age disparity feels "icky". If a kid does it it won't be seen as a big deal because of their immaturity but I fail to see how one is a greater infringement on bodily autonomy for the person being touched than the other. And no one here said anything about 13 year olds being "women" except for you. You're literally just pulling shit out of your ass. Over the age o…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 02:32 AM
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That's definitely a lot more invasive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 02:13 AM
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One may be more "icky" because of the age gap but frankly neither is consensual, strictly speaking. And who said anything about specific ages? She didn't, and neither did I. She simply claimed that every single girl she knew experienced some kind of nonconsensual sexual touching or sexual activity, without specifying the age it happened or the age of the person who did it to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 02:13 AM
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I misread your comment as asking if they would be traumatized at all. Yeah, I think they would be traumatized, I don't know if it would be as much as getting raped/sexually assaulted, I guess it depends on the severity of the assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 01:35 AM
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I think you're making groping seem like a bigger deal than it is, it's literally just touching. I went to an all boys school and we used to touch each other's butts as a joke 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 01:33 AM
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​ https://preview.redd.it/kkhmwxfdmtbb1.jpeg?width=409&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e36b11dcae0e7755ed4a9c74f28a6becc22d564a was mo a real prophet after all
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 11:57 PM
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"No" and "stop" are one-syllable words.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 11:53 PM
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Please touch grass.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 11:52 PM
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It took a little time to fully understand that a woman needs to be reasonably assured of her safety to go on a date, be alone with me, or have sex with me Apparently not if you're attractive.... Other than that I have the common gripe of the halo/horns effect where attractive men are given the benefit of the doubt and unattractive men are assumed to be dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 11:51 PM
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There's a large number of guys casually raping, abusing, and assaulting women like its an everyday thing. How would you know this?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 11:43 PM
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What part of my comment indicates that I think rape is morally acceptable, or defends rapists?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 11:41 PM
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Make people pay so they don't waste it on something dumb and unmarketable.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 11:36 PM
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Do you think a kid who got their arm broken in a school fight If it was one-sided a fight yeah probably, say, if an 8th grader beat up a 4th/5th grader.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 11:33 PM
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Anal rape(and often anal sex in general tbh) is far more painful and dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 11:31 PM
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People risk serious injury and even death trying to avoid being raped! Not in the vast majority of cases. I've even read(from feminist literature, mind you) that many/most rapes don't even involve significant physical resistance. After rape you're never the same. And how would you know this?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 08:37 PM
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local game store mixed gender groups lol good one
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 08:36 PM
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Their education systems sort kids into academic and vocational streams in their teens based on achievement, and the vocational kids don't get to go four year universities. You're comparing apples and oranges.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 08:34 PM
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Do you think being seriously injured in a violent physical assault isn't traumatic?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 08:32 PM
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"I'm pretty sure you've posted this hot take multiple times, sometimes more than once in a single day." Go ahead.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 08:31 PM
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I would rather wear a cast for 6 weeks than get pregnant with a rapist's baby or catch whatever disease he may be carrying. Sexual intercourse will not result in pregnancy or STD transmission the vast majority of the time. And abortion is still generally available, even in American states that have banned it I'm pretty sure most don't have laws criminalizing travelling for abortions. Rape victims go through additional trauma. What was she wearing? What was she drinking? I have literally never se…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 08:28 PM
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That was a typo, I edited the original comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 08:22 PM
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Not shopping for herself and watching movies all day she has to buy... Did I say that? Why are you so defensive?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 08:21 PM
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If you're talking about anal rape that is arguably worse because it's more painful and more likely to cause injury regardless of your sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 08:21 PM
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It's really dumb of you to try to keep up the charade when literally anyone can peek at my comment history and see that's not the case lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 07:18 PM
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I'm talking about violent assaults that result in that kind of injury.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 07:17 PM
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I'm talking about being violently attacked and having your broken by someone else, or some kind of injury comparable in severity to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 07:15 PM
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Most rapists don't offer you the choice. Being coerced under threat of physical injury is like, textbook rape. It's also not uncommon for people to be physically assaulted in the process of the rape or to get the victim to comply. Sure, but it's far from ubiquitous. I'm talking about rape in of itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 07:13 PM
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Less bad than having your arm broken in a violent attack, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 07:13 PM
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I'm very sure you're bullshiting lmao. I'm barely even active here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 07:12 PM
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Last part is highly doubtful since a SAHM spends far more time at home than a breadwinning man.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 07:08 PM
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and an ability for one income household Most people can still have a one income household if they lower their expectations for standards of living and move out of an expensive metropolis. The stereotypical white, "middle-class", American family of the 1950s-1970s: Lived in a small bungalow, with kids often sharing rooms Had one car Rarely ate out or ordered takeout Rarely went on vacations, much less outside the country Only got to enjoy retirement for a few years before passing away And this wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 07:05 PM
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There is little to no overlap between men who complain about female hypergamy and men with harems lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 06:59 PM
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There aren't support groups for people getting their arm broken. Probably because that's less common than rape, and the victims of are more likely to be men who are more resilient.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 06:54 PM
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Possibly flaming hot take but I think there are many violent/physical crimes worse than rape. If say, you had to choose between having sex with someone they don't want to, or having your arm broken, I think the vast majority would bite the bullet and choose the sex(rape). To me, that seems like a relatively straightforward test to gauge the relative severity of various crimes. But when it comes to criminal justice, most people seem to think rape as being second only to murder in terms of severit…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 06:38 PM
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In the context I described, it's infantilizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 12:32 PM
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Trying to dismiss this as a non-gendered issue considering the fact that women initiate most divorces, and are more likely to report reduced sexual desire for their partner as relationships progress.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 07:23 AM
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How many minor children are the sole/primary earner in their households? I think the biggest reason dead bedrooms happen, and I've heard this from a lot of women I'm not inclined to reject OP's hypothesis based on an acceptance women's words at face value, that's naive. Admitting that there wasn't much attraction to begin with and she married him primarily for money/stability is a REALLY bad look.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 07:18 AM
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Possibly flaming hot take but I don't think rape is one of the worst crimes. If say, you had to choose between having sex with someone they don't want to, or having their arm broken, I think the vast majority would bite the bullet and choose the sex(rape). To me, that seems like a relatively straightforward test to gauge the relative severity of various crimes. But when it comes to criminal justice, most people seem to think rape as being second only to murder in terms of severity. It's definite…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 07:12 AM
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Most foids are bisexual tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 02:47 AM
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Being called "cute" in that sense, like you're a puppy or a baby, must be so insulting.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 02:44 AM
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Women seem to prefer aerobic exercises over strength training, but if they're doing fitness for aesthetic reasons(let's be honest most people are) it's pretty misguided. Strength training is the best way to avoid fat gain because having skeletal muscle increases your metabolism. It requires a significant amount of energy to simply maintain, even without active usage.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 04:16 AM
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As far as aesthetics and avoiding fat gain is concerned, strength training is far better than aerobics. If you do aerobic exercises you might expend energy while you're moving around, but it's temporary. Whereas building muscle results in lasting increases to your body's metabolism, since skeletal muscle requires a lot of energy to simply maintain, even if you're not actively using them. It's much harder to get fat once you get jacked. That's why bodybuilders need to eat massive amounts of food …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 04:13 AM
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One of the best ways to stay slim is to build muscle, because simply having muscle increases your energy expenditure.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 04:04 AM
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If a women is struggling to get a quality boyfriend Yeah that's the problem. Any woman who has trouble finding guys willing to commit is probably batting out of her league, and she should lower her standards if she wants an actual relationship. The fact that you included the word "quality" is very telling. There are tons of women that have issues like being ugly, boring, neurotic, unpleasant, broke, fat, etc. There aren't enough "quality" men to for all women, and those men will generally pick "…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 08:31 AM
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He is more on the introverted side, and not very charismatic, i was PLENTY off times with him at the club. In maybe 25 out goings i have seen a women approach him aggresively 1 time. Reading between the lines here, it seems you're implying that he doesn't ask women out. For the vast majority of men, unless you're a celebrity or something, this is the baseline. Even gigachad usually makes the first move.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 09:59 AM
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Why would you date someone if you look down on them? What is attractive about that to you? Men don't need to admire/respect women to be attracted to them. I can still like a girl because she's good-looking/fun/caring, even if they're a dumb/emotionally volatile/sometimes annoying. When I say that I "look down" on women I mean that I generally don't find their behavior and mannerisms to be admirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 06:28 AM
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I don't think young women these days expect men to be super manly, but certain overtly feminine things like wearing skirts or painting your nails would definitely be off-putting to the vast majority them. And you can't negotiate that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 10:33 PM
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You can't negotiate attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 08:40 PM
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"Hate" is a strong word, I look down on you and think you guys say and do a lot of dumb shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 08:38 PM
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She's not yours it's just your turn.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 08:34 PM
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Why would you want to date someone you consider a liar Women lying about their sexual history doesn't really upset me. Why would you want to date someone you consider a liar, you think will only use you for money Only if you're ugly lol. The better looking you are the better they treat you. you believe has been a "cumdump" for someone else Yeah chances are they have been. So what? you think will cheat on you Not unlikely, if it happens you move on with your life. Of course marriage makes that ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 06:25 PM
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"Life is hard for women, and it's not their fault. Just sexism and biology. Women face much greater risks from pregnancy than men, and every sexual encounter is a potential sexual assault. This is why women need to be selective. Conversely, men have the social privilege to not worry about getting raped or becoming pregnant, which is why they feel more free to seek out sex." If this was the case then women would be selecting for the nicest, least threatening, most agreeable men. But they aren't l…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 06:13 PM
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If a survey doesn't fit their narrative, the surveyed people must be liars. Social-desirability bias is real. If the survey asks a question where some possible responses would be socially undesirable, it's reasonable to doubt the honesty of the respondents and scrutinize the methodology.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 09:05 PM
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Who knows, she might be a virgin too And I might win the powerball lottery if I go out and buy a ticket right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 08:50 PM
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Why are you even bringing this up to a woman unless she asked? This post is about if they ask. And many women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 08:50 PM
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and doesn't tell you anything about them It tells you something about their sociosexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 08:49 PM
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I mean, outside of college/high school how would people have any way of knowing your sexual history? The stakes are not that high here in the unlikely event that you get caught. Worst case scenario she flips out and dumps you over something incredibly inconsequential, and you dodge a bullet. It's wrong Very few people think lying is always wrong, there is such a thing as a "white lie". If you do, then you might be on the spectrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 08:47 PM
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Lying won't make you any better at sex or relationships. Lying may help a guy get his foot in the door, and from there naturally he will improve. Women who are worried about your skill OP is talking about women who filter inexperienced men immediately because they admit to it. And quite frankly, why do you care about dating women who judge you this way? Most women do. And quite frankly, why do you care about dating women who judge you this way? Most guys have some sexual experience by their earl…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 08:44 PM
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As long as we're okay with a woman also lying about her past 🤷🏿 This but unironically. Obsessing over n-count is cope. Guys should never expect women to be honest about their sexual past and assume the worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 08:42 PM
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Tell that to the women here lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 08:41 PM
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This but unironically. Many lies are relatively harmless, thinking that you need to tell the truth 100% of the time is a symptom of autism. And once you have some experience you would no longer need to lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 08:40 PM
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At a certain age, being a virgin or having little to no experience with women (dating sex, friends etc) becomes a unnatractive mark on a mans name if it comes up. You don't need to tell them the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 08:39 PM
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I think narcissism has been rated as attractive in women too, by men, as it correlates with physical attractiveness and confidence. Source? And is it BECAUSE they are narcissistic or because they are good-looking? They're not paragons of virtue that distribute themselves equitably for good behavior. One might think that considering how often women claim that guys are incels because of they're "misogynistic" or whatever, and women go for nice guys,
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 06:54 PM
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He spends a lot of time playing video games W lad
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 03:53 AM
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bruh i aint reading all that
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 12:39 AM
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This post isn't about me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 12:11 AM
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I'm looking at all civilized societies actually. Even that is narrow-minded because humans were hunter gatherers for the vast majority of their existence. like having a surplus of desperate, directionless young men. Medieval Islamic societies always had need for more soldiers to fuel their conquests.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 11:51 PM
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Would she even rent a house like this with a roommate or alone? I should have said "home". I'm talking about any owned home, including condos and townhouses. And if she would rent something comparable, would that be your house or would she choose something totally different and only ends up in this house because it’s yours? I mean if she doesn't like the place she can choose not to cohabitate. This is assuming she likes the place enough..... Does she have protection from you turning around and k…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 11:41 PM
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I never said that. I'm just pointing out that contrary to your beliefs, polygyny was ubiquitous throughout human existence. You have a narrow-minded view because you're only looking at western christian societies.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 11:37 PM
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Would you like to go back to the neolithic? Early agricultural human societies were INSANELY polygynous, even more so than the hunter gatherer societies that preceded it. Or how about Rome? Roman society was monogamous but again that's just one society.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 11:31 PM
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The rise of Christianity created more incentives to keep families nuclear For the vast majority of human existence there was no such thing as "Christianity".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 11:24 PM
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The rich guy will just get brained in his sleep if he gets too many women to cheat with him. Remember there's no criminal forensics in 735AD. What makes you think most women that have ever lived valued sexual exclusivity from their male partners as much as postchristian western women?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 11:20 PM
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If I say that women shouldn't work, and should be married and pregnant by 20yo, because that's how things were for most of human history Humans have existed for far longer than written history has, people need to keep that in mind. Women did work, just more so within the domestic sphere. In prehistoric human societies males likely would have the ones to hunt larger game while females would have leaned towards trapping smaller game and gathered. and should be married and pregnant by 20yo Yeah thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 11:17 PM
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I mean if they're paying for most of your groceries you still benefit even though no money exchanges hands, I guess people don't like exchanging money in relationships which is understandable and why I brought that up. As I've said before though, she would benefit too because at the end of the day she would spend far less than living alone or with a roommate. It's pretty good for both parties IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 04:11 PM
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You're leaving out face which is arguably the most important. This is common though because most people lack the adequate vocabulary to describe facial features. Some facial features women strongly prefer are: Neutral or positive canthal tilt eyes that sit deeper in the orbits Wide, square, mandible Forward grown maxilla and mandible, especially the chin part. Less buccal and chin fat Smaller and sloped forehead
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 04:07 PM
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Yeah which is why I suggested the utilities + groceries idea. But just paying utilities? Like come on that's barely anything. If this is about having a more equal status as partners and not about money then covering other expenses should be reasonable, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 03:57 PM
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as people usually date in their same economic class. According to what? Wealthier guys date lower-earning women all the time. if they pay to your equity then they should get equity too, they shouldn’t be a renter. Why not? Or don’t charge them rent and have them cover utilities or something. Yes the alternative I suggested was her paying for groceries and utilities. I mean utilities alone barely cost anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 03:40 PM
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I have lots of friends who were considering moving in together and deciding if they should buy a new house together This is a MASSIVE commitment and normally comes after living together a while. People need to know if they are compatible. Regardless, with the real estate market these days, young people by and large can't afford to buy homes yet. Only when they get settled down and are more financially stable. Chances are a cohabitating girlfriend would be renting elsewhere if they weren't living…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 03:25 PM
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It's called paying rent.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 03:17 PM
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Why am I helping my boyfriend build equity when I get nothing in return? You're getting a place to live? I mean you have to live somewhere....... I will pay for utilities, food, cleaning services To clarify, I'm talking about paying most/all of these expenses, not just "your half".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 03:15 PM
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But if she was living alone in a place she bought I highly doubt that a woman who's looking to move into her boyfriend's home could afford to buy her own home. In all likelihood she would be renting if she wasn't living with him. But also if her name isn’t in the lease he could throw her out at any moment That depends on the state, in many places she would be considered an "occupant" and legally entitled to 30 days notice.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 01:56 PM
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Market rent is usually less than your mortgage payments? Are you saying as a landlord you’re always operating at a loss? No, you build equity.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 01:52 PM
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It's mutually beneficial, in this case she'd be paying significantly less compared to living with a roommate in a comparable house. If she was living there for free that's kind of just mooching.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 01:48 PM
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Market rate seems a little high for me if it's your partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 01:45 PM
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All breakups involve physical separation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 01:45 PM
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As if homeowners don't have to pay down payments, mortgages, property taxes, and repair/maintenance costs?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 12:29 PM
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I said that they would prefer it, not that they actually can. Parents need to work and pay the bills.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 12:16 PM
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I don’t think it’s fair to ask someone to pay a mortgage I mean, it's called paying rent.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 12:08 PM
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I understand that very well, I went through a lot of effort and physical pain to get to where I am today, and I still have a ways to go. I use five different skincare products, one of which is prescription-strength tretinoin I apply every night, how many women can say the same? Actual clear skin is ideal but foundation/concealer is a damn convincing substitute if you're not willing to put in the research and effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 12:07 PM
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If she was renting the same home with a roommate she'd probably pay around 50% of the market rent(depending on who gets what bedroom I guess). That's significantly more.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 11:40 AM
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I think the same logic applies. Home ownership is so much more expensive than renting, and someone letting you live in their house or condo in exchange for rent does not entitle you to that property.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 11:39 AM
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You talk like “he’s sharing the space with her” as if it’s magnanimous, whereas in this situation the bulk of the positives go to you - you get discounts on everything while building equity. Paying 35-40% of market rent to live with your partner in a smaller home is usually far cheaper than renting your own place. He would be building equity regardless, this is just a little extra money for sharing his home. The absolute MAX should be 50% of your costs I specifically said 35-40% of market rent. …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 11:36 AM
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In my post I specified that the girlfriend wants to move in with him. I mean, in this economy with ever-increasing COL, finances are a big reason why many couples live together.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 11:30 AM
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I'm not their landlord, they are my partner, their presence is the reason why I invited them. Here, in this economy, cost of living is a big reason why many couples choose to live together. I don't know where you're from so I don't know if that's true everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 11:29 AM
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Do you say the same thing to your landlord? He owns the home, he paid the down payment, he's responsible for the mortgage (usually more than market rent), property taxes, maintenance costs, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 11:27 AM
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Virtually all homeowners at the very least view their homes way to build equity. Even if it doesn't appreciate, when you finish paying off the mortgage you will have a valuable asset that can be used to fund retirement and/or be passed down to your children. If you rent for life you will have nothing to show for all the money you spent on housing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 11:24 AM
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Things change, even many marriages ultimately end in divorce. I see no reason to let your partner live in your home rent free prior to marital commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 11:22 AM
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No, I said 35-40% of market rent of the entire unit. So if market rent was 2000 for the entire unit she would pay 700-800 a month. If she was renting the place with a roommate she'd be paying like 50% of the market rent, so 1000 a month.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 11:20 AM
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But why should he be profiting off of me by charging any more than half the mortgage? I think you may have misunderstood. I never suggested this anywhere. I gave a figure of around 35-40% of market rent of the entire unit as a benchmark, and market rent is usually less than your mortgage payment for investment properties. Not to mention other costs associated with home ownership like repairs and condo fees and such. Which ultimately works out to far less than half the cost of home ownership. Mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 11:16 AM
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I mean, you have to live somewhere and he's sharing his home with you so......
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 11:07 AM
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You have teenage children? Too many boomers here smh my head.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 11:05 AM
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That's a very good point actually, never considered that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 10:55 AM
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Should it be 1/2 your mortgage just because you’ve let her move in As a homeowner and a landlord, no sane landlord bases rent off of their mortgage payments. It's based on the rental market. I think you should probably charge a little less than half of the market rent because it's not just a roommate.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 10:49 AM
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That seems like the ideal arrangement to me, I'm writing this post as a young homeowner myself. Lots of people here don't seem to like the idea of the homeowner benefitting from the arrangement by earning income or having other things paid for. With rent I don't think there would be any confusion either, so long as you make it clear that it's rent and not a mortgage contribution, and base it off of market rent and not how much your mortgage payment is. Although couples might not like the idea of…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 10:47 AM
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If you're worried about someone claiming to live in your house I meant a claim to ownership.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 10:40 AM
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During that time, the house should be treated as "their house", i.e. she's not treated as a guest but joint owner. What do you mean by "treated as joint owner"? As in actually being added to the title? Doing the things you described is generally a pretty bad idea for homeowners because the other party can use that as an argument for a claim to the house.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 10:27 AM
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Sure, but he has to share the space with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 10:07 AM
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Check edit. Is it fair if the boiler breaks down that she pays for 1/2 of what is - essentially- an upgrade on the property you own? Home maintenance is the responsibility of the homeowner. Is it fair she pays nothing and you have to fork out all of it, while she gets to enjoy the upgrade? Yeah, it's your home. If you rent the place out to an arms-length tenant and it breaks you still have to get fixed. It's kinda dangerous too in that situation to ask her for money for home repairs in that case…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 10:06 AM
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But in this instance I'd say yes if her name is added to the paperwork on the home so she has rights to what she's helping to pay off. This is probably one of the most ridiculous things I've ever seen written here. Have you ever said that to a landlord?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 10:02 AM
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I’d say it’s definitely reasonable to except your partner to contribute towards bills for the house etc if their living with you You misunderstand, I'm talking about her covering other living expenses herself for both parties. Edited my post to make that more clear. However they should have some kind of contract if she starts paying close to 50% of all household bills, he’s now benefiting from the extra income and she’s left with nothing if they break up. I mean she has to live somewhere. If she…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 10:00 AM
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Waterproof mascara exists. Right, that's just one kind of makeup. And it can still be easily taken off with makeup remover, and usually it is every night. It's still superficial. If you got Rogaine to get your beard I don't think most men with beards use Rogaine. it's absolutely not what you "ordinarily look like" It is, it may be artificially enhanced but it's not superficial. You will look that way 24/7 so long as you keep using it. It's like a perm or dye job, it might not be "natural" or per…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 09:01 AM
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I mean just because you could change how something looks doesn't mean it's superficial. I could cut off my nose right now. that doesn't make my nose superficial. Or for a less extreme example, a perm or dye job wouldn't be superficial like makeup is, because though it isn't not permanent, it's lasting and what it's they will always look like for a period of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 08:36 AM
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Do you put yourself in situations where men approach (dating apps, parties, clubs, bars, etc). Are you in social circles with single men? Have you ever approached a guy? If you're expecting guys to cold approach you in public then you're living in a fantasy world. That's frowned upon a lot these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 08:23 AM
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https://external-preview.redd.it/YOkD5U4T5fcf097vw8z4PlPI7ytWIksArJuuWrhX5bA.png?auto=webp&s=9f3994e3fb2826721eb36b22a4be09f4db5e62f9
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 08:21 AM
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It really isn't, it's quite literally part of your body. Makeup comes with water. You will have your facial hair all the time. Do women have makeup on all the time? If they have a brain they will at the very least take it off before bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 08:20 AM
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I know..... Even so, no amount of "concealer, foundation, eyelash extensions" is going to magically and seamlessly transform a 4 into an 8 IRL. I was addressing this part.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 08:12 AM
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Does makeup grow out of your skin? Facial isn't superficial in the same way that makeup is. A guy's beard isn't going to fall off if he steps into the shower.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 08:10 AM
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You're not actually good looking if the only reason you look good in the moment is something as superficial and deceptive as makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 08:10 AM
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Makeup goes well beyond simple grooming. It's literally covering your face with substances to deceive people about the way you actually look.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 08:08 AM
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One is very superficial and other isn't. Makeup literally comes off with water. That's arguably what makes it deceptive. If I grow a beard it's not going to fall off the moment I step into a shower. I wouldn't say that a woman who dyes her hair, gets a perm, or gets plastic surgery is being deceptive because those changes to her appearance are not superficial.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 08:06 AM
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By that argument it's also deceptive. It's not really deceptive because it's not superficial. Your beard doesn't fall out when you take a shower. When you have a beard it's what you ordinarily look like, when you have makeup on it's not what you ordinarily look like.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 08:04 AM
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Again, another woman is understating the difference that the appearance of clear skin makes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 08:03 AM
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but realistically that's too costly in terms of time or money for anyone except actors Maybe not everyday, but women absolutely do put in the effort and get dolled up for dates, dating app photos, or when they're going out and expect to get approached. Foundation makes your skin look more even in tone and can conceal spots. Concealer can conceal dark circles and spots. You're greatly understating the importance of clear skin, or at least, the appearance of clear skin. So you just look less a spo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 08:00 AM
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It’s all a nonsense appeal. One could just as well argue a need to “not have sex,” Who are arguing against that? I certainly never said that anyone had a right to sex, nor did I imply it. In case I did not make it clear, I am not a progressive and I'm skeptical of the concept of "positive rights" in general. Did women not evolve to be selective, is sex not massively risky for us compared to men, can pregnancy not kill us? For most of human existence, yes. In many places in the world currently, y…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 07:49 AM
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A den works as a home office just fine, and the other person can set up in the living room or something. Regardless, the point is that living with someone else is usually much cheaper than living alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 07:41 AM
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Well, men wouldn't have the same quality of life if they had to do their own housework either. Without having to subsidize a woman they could probably afford to outsource cleaning and/or cooking. And frankly most men don't care about cleanliness as much women do, the cleaning women do at home is mostly for their own satisfaction. The argument was that housework was somehow unimportant because you could survive without it, but that extra income is a luxury too, and more of one than housework gene…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 07:38 AM
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The money we make together is ours. Legally, it isn't until you get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 07:20 AM
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If you're moving in with a partner you'd only need a 1bd (maybe with a den) so you'd probably be able to afford a nicer place than before, unless it was rent controlled.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 07:19 AM
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If you're defining a transactional attitude as involving a literal exchange then by that logic what I described isn't transactional either. There is no exchange involved in saying "you should do more around the house because I pay more of the bills".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 04:05 AM
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Sure it is. Transactions can involve the exchange of work and services too, not just money. Measuring and comparing what your partner does in the household is just as transactional as measuring and comparing how much money they bring in.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 03:46 AM
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Do you expect guys to rate fat chicks highly?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 03:44 AM
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Wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 03:43 AM
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Ugly women might have a bit of an easier time obtaining casual sex than an average man but not a quality relationship. Well, "quality" is normative, it's different for everyone. One woman might be satisfied with a guy that looks like Jonah Hill, another woman might not be satisfied with a guy that looks like Henry Cavil. Of all the attention they get just by being on a dating app or bar/club, I seriously doubt that none of those men are interested in relationships. Most men have relationships. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 03:42 AM
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That’s a super-hard job, much harder than banking or whatever. Doubt it, literal teenagers in high school can do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 03:38 AM
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“Models are getting flown out to Dubai and have thousands of followers” This is about literal models, not your average run-of-the-mill woman. “If you’re moderately attractive you’re basically a giga Stacy” Never heard a guy say anything like this. "Moderately attractive" women will get plenty of attention from men if they simply put themselves in situations amenable to that, like being on dating apps or going to parties/bars/clubs.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 03:34 AM
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It's one thing to view someone at a humanoid ATM to be taken advantage of. Valuing and APPRECIATING someone as an individual for the sacrifices they make to provide for you is an entirely different story. That's how I feel about my parents, for instance.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 03:30 AM
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If you want to make it transactional Women are the ones who wanted to make things transactional. Why else are they bitching about how men aren't doing enough around the house? "I did this and that", "he didn't do this and that", how is that not transactional?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 03:29 AM
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It's one thing to view someone at a humanoid ATM to be taken advantage of. Valuing and APPRECIATING someone as an individual for the sacrifices they make to provide for you is an entirely different story.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 03:27 AM
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You said the difference of 45k to 60k That was just an example. My happiness and contentment with the family Id be building with a tit for tat man isn’t worth 15k Ok, those are just your personal values, I don't care. For most people 15k a year is a lot of money. You're just unaware of your own privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 03:26 AM
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If you're willing to do that then good for you, but I don't think it's unreasonable for people to expect a lower earning partner to do more around the house regardless of how much they work. If they're too busy for that then you are simply not compatible. There doesn't need to be any "fault".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 03:21 AM
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Please take your meds.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 03:19 AM
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That being said, it's a small percentage of men and women who can afford to be a primary breadwinner. According a Pew article that gets linked here a lot, more than half of married men are the "primary" or sole breadwinner, defined as earning 60% or more of the total family income.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 03:18 AM
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For people who make low/mid 5 figures, 15k a year is a LOT of money.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 03:16 AM
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Women earning less and working less paid hours is a function generally of women doing more unpaid work like child care. No, career choice is also a significant factor. Women enter lowing paying fields. If you think of child care as just "work" then I hope to god you never have kids. Most parents, certainly all GOOD parents, would much rather be spending time with their kids than at work. Therefore we will value child care highly I really don't, a teenager could do it, and they do it all the time…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 03:12 AM
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It is true that most of life costs money, but as we know from research, once you clear a certain amount of earning, anything past that threshold doesn't generally make anyone happier. That extra money men earn is largely irrelevant in terms of the joy it brings. Well, I don't know what planet you're living on, but on earth the vast majority of people aren't anywhere near this "threshold". Not even in the US, one of the richest countries in the world. Also does that research control for work-life…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 03:01 AM
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So I don't want anymore complaining about single lonelymen not being able find women. Never did. Don't know what you're talking about. It gets easier for most men to find a partner when they're older and have more money. But being a betabux is arguably worse than being an incel. Ah so women are supposed to have kids because society. Please point out where I said this. But also women should be punished for working less hours "Punished"? In what world is division of labor a "punishment"?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 12:56 AM
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How do you figure that? I've never said anything about how I define those terms. You're just shifting the goalposts.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 12:53 AM
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If you really want to see everything as transactional in a marriage Women started this by bitching about men not helping out enough around the house. We're just playing the same game you've been playing. would you pay your wife for each pregnancy, and for each hour she nurses a baby of you? That falls under childcare, yeah. But that stage of childrearing only lasts a 2-3 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 12:52 AM
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Teammates pick up the slack when they need to I understand that things change, but it seems that by and large men are the ones usually "picking up the slack" so to speak.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 12:51 AM
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So by your definition any amount outearned makes someone a breadwinner? Any amount that people consider significant yeah. Like if you currently make 45k and got a raise to 60k most people would consider that a massive pay raise. But when you see that kind of disparity in couples all you women are saying shit like "it's barely a difference" or "they're still the same class".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 12:50 AM
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I never said that, don't put words in my mouth. As far as I'm concerned women can settle down or not settle down with whoever they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 12:49 AM
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Not in my experience. Have you never seen a progressive claim that "most Americans wanted Hillary/Gore" because they won the popular vote? Merriam-webster definition of "most": "the majority of" 52% is a majority. And I said, they are defining "egalitarian" broadly. I think they are also including people who are temporarily unemployed but looking to rejoin the workforce.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 12:47 AM
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Your claims and figures aren't supported by this article at all. The table comparing male and female earnings is for ALL workers.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 12:44 AM
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I never said any of that. Don't put words in my mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 12:42 AM
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The data I mentioned is census data for cohabitating/married people. Ok, can you link it? The post you are referencing says “high income” households, putting men at 110k and women at 80k. That's literally just one tiny part of the post, you didn't even read the whole thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 09:34 PM
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Lesbians aren't having kids to even remotely the extent of a union between a man and a woman Most gay male couples don't have kids either, and childless straight couples are similarly likely to get divorced. nor are there a million other barriers such as religion , social backlash , fear/abuse that women have to face in a lesbian relationship Those factors prevent people from engaging in a lesbian lifestyle, but I doubt lesbian couples would get divorced due to those factors. They've already gon…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 09:33 PM
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Women: or i could just be single? Be my guest. Women by and large won't because they know they can enjoy a better material lifestyle by settling down with men that earn more than them, while they get to do easier and more desirable tasks like cooking or spending time with the kids. We're both working 40 hours a week and we're both earning money Most married women, especially ones with kids, work fewer hours than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 09:26 PM
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Ok, good for you. If you're happy with this then it's your life. But I think a high earning woman would be equally entitled to expect a lower earning partner(if they will even entertain that) to do more housework.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 09:25 PM
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This is globally, I'm talking about in the US. Female workforce participation is lower in developing countries. And it doesn't even say how many men do absolutely nothing around the household. Are you illiterate or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 09:23 PM
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Normally people, or at least women, simply do not settle down with people that make way less than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 09:22 PM
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Probably at government sponsored daycare school.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 09:21 PM
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Do you have a source?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 09:20 PM
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The female earning 35k and the male earning 45k. Is that for only cohabitating/married people, or all people? Sure, broke guys exist. Women by and large don't settle down with them. This post from a few weeks back analyzes earnings disparities in childless cohabitating/married couples.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 09:20 PM
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I don’t appreciate a male breadwinner because I am the breadwinner. Ok, then this post isn't for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 09:18 PM
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How many husbands and boyfriends do literally no housework or childcare?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 09:18 PM
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The most basic adult responsibility is earning money. Everything other than that is secondary. If you're living in a dirty house and eating mostly frozen food/takeout you're still getting by. Without enough income you can't live independently.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 09:17 PM
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Google definition: "a person who earns money to support a family." Merriam-Webster definition: "a member of a family whose wages supply the family's principal or only means of support"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 09:16 PM
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but it is difficult to quantify the value of household chores. It really isn't. You can usually hire someone to do it for less than 15 dollars an hour, and they'll probably do a faster and better job. If you think out-earning your SO by 10-15k That would be the average disparity for childless couples, but the mean incomes for men and women in those couples are around mid 50ks and high 30ks respectively according to this post so it's a big difference. For couples with children it's far greater th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 09:11 PM
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29% of marriages were elegatarian They defined "egalitarian" pretty broadly, anything less than a 60/40 split was considered "egalitarian". Most men aren’t providers Going by the figures you provided 52% of men are either the "sole" or the "primary" breadwinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 09:10 PM
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If they agree then sure, I mean I'd look down a man that agrees to these BS arrangements but it's their life. The problem is that women EXPECT these things and get mad if you don't meet their expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 09:09 PM
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And men wonder why the divorce rate is 50 percent and we are the ones filing for divorce 70 percent of the time. Even when women get married to other women they're very likely to get divorced. Whereas gay male divorce rates are far lower. There is a common denominator here and it's not men. Making a average 5 to 8k more a year In married and cohabitating couples, even childless ones, the typical disparity is far greater than that. To draw a parallel, if a man works for 12 hours a day at a wareho…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 09:06 PM
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So in a family of 4 in that time you clean the home (that’s 2+ hours) 2 hours a day cleaning? That's ridiculous. laundry for 4 people (including ironing/putting clothes away) Once, maybe twice, a week. Most people have more than 7 sets of clothes. And most people don't iron anymore. cook 11 portions of food (+/- prep snacks) Hot breakfasts and lunches are not common in western countries. And as someone who has primarily cooked for his household since he was 13, there is usually not that much ext…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 09:03 PM
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Women love to shout about equality until it hurts them. Then they shift to bullshit like "split expenses according to income" or "if we're both working 'full-time' split housework down the middle". As always, have their cake and eat it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 08:57 PM
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Yes, or at least it's reasonable for men to expect it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 08:55 PM
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This is just a question of semantics. Most people and academics would describe a partner who earns significantly more than the other partner as a "primary breadwinner", and what you described would be a "sole breadwinner".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 08:55 PM
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It absolutely matters what you earn. It's easy to say that when you have enough money, try getting by without. As I said, money makes the world go round.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 08:54 PM
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Married and cohabitating women earn significantly less than their male partners, even in childless households.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 08:53 PM
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Most women have jobs and would survive just fine without a man contributing financially. It's not hard to "survive" today, virtually no one starves in developed western countries by thanks to social welfare and parents. But they wouldn't be enjoying the same quality of life they currently have, not even close. For example, you wouldn't expect a manual worker who works all week to do more housework than their white collar spouse who works less hours for more pay, would you? I think people are gen…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 08:51 PM
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Because the men who are being called children are the ones who don't. If you had actually read the post, you would know that I'm talking about women calling their primary breadwinner husbands/boyfriends children because they think they don't help out enough around the house. No, making more money It's not about making more money per se, it's about contributing more money. If she wants to split housework 50/50 then why not also split finances 50/50. Equality only when it suits women?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 08:45 PM
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In most married and cohabitating couples men are the primary breadwinners.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 08:43 PM
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Only if you homeschool your kids. There's only so much you can clean a home.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 08:42 PM
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Most of those households have some wage disparity. On average men still earn more than women (by about $10k) In married and cohabitating households, even ones without children, the disparity is far greater. Women overwhelmingly choose to settle down with higher earning men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 08:41 PM
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If both parents are working full time "Full-time" can mean as little as 30 hours a week. Men still spend more time at work than women do. they're contributing to the household income too, just because they're making less on average doesn't mean their contribution is somehow less valued. If they're earning and paying less then they are absolutely contributing less. You wouldn't argue that someone who spends an hour cleaning one room contributes the same as someone who spends an hour cleaning the …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 08:39 PM
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This is an incredibly poor comparison because children aren't capable of working or taking care of a household. By and large men and can and do, so why are they being compared to children then? Women just don't think "the man earns more" is automatically an excuse for them to be a maid, chef, and nanny. Maybe not if expenses are split roughly 50/50 and he pockets the rest for himself. But this usually isn't the case. Is it not fair to pitch in more elsewhere if your partner is the primary breadw…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 08:28 PM
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Honestly you're a chump if you agree to be the sole breadwinner unless you guys are going to have a lot of kids. Once they're in school(and they start early these days, most kids go to preschool) SAHMs barely have to do anything and have so much free time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 08:21 PM
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That's how you defined home. Keeping with YOUR DEFINITION. Where did I define a home as "protection from the elements". I acknowledge that housing is one way to protect yourself from the elements, but there are others. "it's very unlikely that you will die from being homeless, so long as you have adequate protection from the elements" So buildings exist but not home buildings? As in under the shadow of a building. SoCal is a lot of desert. No trees. Depends on where you are. You're nitpicking a …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 08:20 PM
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Humans regularly died of easily preventable diseases for the vast majority of their existence. Not because they lived outside. Primarily due to violent injuries and age-related causes for most of human existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 07:47 PM
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sit under a tree or a building...... protection from the elements is not synonymous with a home.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 07:46 PM
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Why not? All positive rights ultimately imply entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 07:45 PM
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I am a landlord 🗿
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 07:44 PM
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Most of the factors you mentioned apply in the inverse with highly attractive men and fat/ugly women. Would they also be justified in "mistrusting" these women due to lust and unreciprocated sexual attraction? Staggering disrespect and disregard for women. Judging by the vile things women openly and proudly say about us, you seem to have even less respect and regard for the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 06:37 PM
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Bullshit, humans lived outdoors for the vast majority of their existence and most people today spend a significant amount of time outdoors.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 06:29 PM
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No, not necessarily. You left the "in case the need arises" part. In southern California for instance you don't really need any protection the elements apart from maybe a coat because the climate is so mild. And even in places with harsher climates like Canada there are always warming centers open on cold days for the homeless.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 06:27 PM
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Yeah and with dumpster diving there is a very high risk of pathogens.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 06:23 PM
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Is housing really a "need"? Like. it's very unlikely that you will die from being homeless, so long as you have adequate protection from the elements in case the need arises.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 06:00 PM
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Most positive rights that progressives love to champion ultimately require work from others. If you are entitled to food then someone has to grow/raise that food, if you are entitled to housing then someone has to build those homes, if you are entitled to healthcare then someone has to provide healthcare to you, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 05:57 PM
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There’s an abundance of single older men who are looking to date younger women. No, there aren't. The vast majority of single older men are married, cohabitating, or divorced with children. I think it’s more prominent in white people. The science doesn't agree. Men tend to have thicker skin that produces more sebum than women, regardless of ethnicity. Not to mention that men's wrinkles may not be visible if they have facial hair. or the women tend to fair better than the males since women make m…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 10:46 AM
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I disagree that many could because the attraction often isn’t reciprocated by young women. I'm not sure how you could know that when most older guys taken and aren't actively trying to get with young women. Also disagree that men (as a gender) age better than women do but I realize that when we talk about appearance with age on this sub, we’re often talking in regards to European beauty standards and people of European decent I don't think it's exclusive to white people. Men generally are less p…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 08:39 AM
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but she does walk and looks fit and isn't fat by any chance,she just doesn't have functional strength. Why do you care then? Presumably she's attractive and healthy, is it really that important to you that she's strong?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 06:07 AM
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The majority of older guys are married or cohabitating, and have neither the opportunity nor the incentive to maintain their appearance and pursue younger women. If they weren't already settled down, I think many could and would. Men age far better than women do, the biggest hurdle is balding which is relatively easily treated with minoxidil and/or finasteride.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 06:01 AM
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Guys start settling down and betabuxxing when they get older TBH, I don't think women actually start finding them more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 11:28 PM
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You're assuming that they date women their own age and not younger women. Granted, not all older guys can but there are certainly ones out there who took care of themselves, have the right genetics, and/or got cosmetic procedures to make them look more youthful.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 11:26 PM
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Yeah but women are also fat, American women are arguably even more obese than American men when measured by things like waist circumference or body fat directly.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 11:24 PM
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Obviously easier......
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 11:23 PM
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Yeah and guys can usually get away with talking shit about women in a casual women, like calling women sluts or bitches for instance. At least if you're good looking enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 11:22 PM
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I don't think sexism hurts men's dating success as long as it's it's not the bitter/angry type associated with incels or the weird autistic traditionalist type associated with some other parts of the manosphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 07:33 PM
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Is it easy or hard for women to get relationships compared to men? I already answered your question.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 07:16 PM
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I seriously doubt that blue collar dudes are less sexist than STEM guys. Attributing lack of sexual and romantic success to "sexism" is a dumb cop out. Plenty of sexist guys do fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 07:03 PM
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Yes, hence the distinction versus "explicit prostitution". The "sugar coating" makes it a lot easier for girls to swallow. Figuratively and literally 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 06:48 PM
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Most men have trouble identifying when a woman is wearing makeup, and mistake light/natural makeup as "no makeup".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 06:45 PM
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Explicit prostitution is a lot more shameful than being a sugar baby. With the latter at least the dates and gifts at least create the illusion of a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 06:45 PM
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That's actually a lot better than other dating apps if true, can you link the statistic? I've heard a some people say that hinge is better for guys because the girls there are looking for relationships, this would seem to validate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 06:37 PM
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I never said that straight men don't want to date women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 06:35 PM
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You probably overestimate their beauty because they're wearing makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 06:34 PM
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I’m a graduate student so I wasn’t eligible to attend the event apparently but there were so many guys with out with their baddie-type girlfriends. Some of these guys weren’t anything special appearance wise though most had rizz or style if you will. (I am Gen z/ under 25). Makeup go brrrrr
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 06:22 PM
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Well the vast majority still do and no one's holding a gun to your head. They don't want to lose their betabucks lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 06:22 PM
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Maybe if you only count the ones that pass, I mean they really want to look feminine so a lot decide to just go all the way with plastic surgeries.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 06:21 PM
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I think it would be difficult to curb your sex drive without feminizing you. Not to mention that most men are not very insightful and the thought of curbing their sex drive is repulsive to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 06:20 PM
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I definitely agree, it's unfortunate that the only way to do that currently is castration(surgical or chemical) which also feminizes you. I'd never do that to myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 06:19 PM
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Gay marriages last much longer The fact that lesbian couples and heterosexual couples are far more likely to get divorced than gay male couples shows us what the problem really is. There's a common denominator here, and it's not men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 06:18 PM
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Honestly it's clear as day to me that the girls who do sugar dating are cunning and resourceful people who know how to get what they want. It's hilarious when older women try to portray them as naïve victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 06:14 PM
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I didn't that and I don't think that, but it's definitely relatively harder for them compared to casual sex. Relationships don't necessarily involve serious commitment, just sexual exclusivity for the duration for the duration of it. Because it's pretty easy to end any non-cohabitating relationship if you're no longer satisfied.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 06:10 PM
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yet they go for the extra skinny girls with eating disorders Most guys don't like genuine skin and bones. Your perception of "extra skinny" is probably skewed because most people are fat. Someone who is in the lowest 5% or even lowest 2% of BMI can still be considered within the "normal" range or barely "underweight", which is still above the threshold for an anorexia diagnosis(< 17.0 BMI). the gym obsessed girls who compete and cut down to unhealthy fat percentage levels A lot of female athlete…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 06:00 PM
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This study was performed in China where there is far greater preference for thinness than in western countries. Also, if they're using the traditional BMI thresholds, the emerging consensus is that it's not appropriate for East Asian populations because they tend to have more body fat, so many East Asians in the "normal" BMI category actually tend to have excess body fat("skinny fat"). Researchers are shifting towards using lower thresholds for the categories in East Asian populations.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 05:58 PM
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in fact, a core belief around here is complaining about how easily women get dates/sex. Casual sex is the easiest, relationships are a somewhat less easy, marriage is the hardest. The more commitment is involved the more selective men are and the harder it is for women to bat out of the league. The point is, women need to understand that just because they can hook up with the highly attractive guys they lust for doesn't mean that those guys will actually want anything serious with them. Expectin…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 05:44 PM
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Bullshit, even ugly and average looking women get plenty of male attention. Can't say the same for men. Women are the ones who love to bat out of their league and get pissy when chad won't commit to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 05:35 PM
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Beauty is a value judgement Women have a very skewed perception of what an "average" looking man looks like. Makeup go brrrr
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 05:33 PM
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PUA in this context refers to a very specific set of strategies. Don't play dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 09:48 PM
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https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/mobile/000/031/003/cover3.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 09:42 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_profiling
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 09:25 PM
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According to men here, everything they do — job, bathing, education, not living in a cardboard box, leaving the house, interacting with people at all, creating civilization and society — is for pussy *according to a few men here. And yeah, that's a load of horseshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 08:59 PM
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https://blog.gitnux.com/onlyfans-gender-statistics/ You're shifting the goalposts again. The question you initially posed was whether men value sex more than men value other aspects of their lives, not whether men value sex more than women. The median percentage of men who exchanged sex for money in the last 12 months in all regions was around 9–10% That's a pretty small minority.....
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 08:51 PM
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russians are asiatic half breeds ukrainians are pure slavs 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 08:42 PM
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https://www.psypost.org/2023/02/huge-study-finds-men-have-a-stronger-sex-drive-than-women-68289 https://www.businessinsider.com/dating-apps-that-have-highest-percentage-of-women-2016-6 Everyone knows that men are more interested in sex than women. You specifically asked if men are more interested in sex than other aspects of life I mentioned. https://prostitution.procon.org/questions/how-many-prostitutes-are-in-the-united-states-and-the-rest-of-the-world/ This doesn't tell us anything about how …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 08:35 PM
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Blackpill tends to de-emphasize the importance of muscle and status.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 08:15 PM
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Well I don't have any data on that, and I don't think you do either.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 07:45 PM
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I don't know, different men say and do different things. Do you think men are a hivemind.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 07:35 PM
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For me, definitely. I can't speak for other guys obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 07:24 PM
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The same things as women do..... Material comfort, new experiences, free time for hobbies and leisure activities, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 07:04 PM
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It's not a dichotomy between "men can't enjoy casual sex" and "men are mindless horn dogs who can sacrifice their very being on the altar of sex in an instant."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 09:50 AM
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and at some point when the sex stops fulfilling If. Once again, the """empathetic sex""" demonstrates how little empathy they have for men's desires and preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 08:08 AM
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I don't know, maybe because PUA is heavily censored so many men have never heard of it? And even if they have heard of it, maybe they may not want try it because it's heavily criticized for ideological reasons. Just a thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 08:06 AM
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Sex is far from the only thing men value.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 08:05 AM
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I see these kinds of self-contradicting comments a lot on social media. It's very confusing. Do you think men are a hivemind? Is it the same men saying these things? "I like natural women" to some women wearing makeup, but also... Men are bad at telling when a woman is wearing makeup, and often think a woman wearing light natural-looking makeup is wearing no wakeup. This leads men to greatly overestimate female beauty. "Take her swimming on the first date" to less conventionally attractive women…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 07:35 AM
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But now I see a lot of clowns with YT channels, tiktoks and podcast than have distorted the message completely. Guys like Fresh & Fit and Andrew Tate amongst others are basically telling men that they are worthless (specially Tate) unless they get into the grind, work themselves to an early grave to make a lot of money, get athlete level fit, be obnoxiously dominant, and display a lifestyle that might not be acording to their listeners values just to atract women. F&F and Tate don't really ident…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 07:26 AM
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OP didn't say "attention from any and all men". They do these things because like attention from men they find attractive, and by and large put up with the side effect that is attention from men they don't find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 06:50 AM
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Because presumably the latter type of sexual relationship is more transactional. The latter is more likely to involve expectations of him spending money on her, doing favors for her, generally behaving like a "gentleman", sexual exclusivity, etc. Whereas the former is simply raw attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 08:56 AM
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link
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 08:55 AM
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When women have low standards. Manosphere: Ew! Men dont want women who have been with everyone. That’s disgusting. Whore! Standards and sluttiness aren't that closely related for women. Most women could have a new Chad in their bed every week thanks to dating apps, or even by just going out to bars/clubs. Conversely, a more chaste woman who only has sex within committed relationships could have relatively low physical standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 08:53 AM
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I've seen several women here and on podcasts say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 08:50 AM
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I don't prefer hyper-agreeable women but nagging is always annoying. There are ways to disagreeable other than nagging. If a male knows you won’t leave him if he doesn’t take you on dates Do you take him on dates? but they know through observation that women feel love through acts (like dates) How do women express love for their partners? Can you imagine what the reaction would be if a wife never cooked dinner and used the excuse “well he never told me he wanted me to cook dinner.” I can definit…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 08:47 AM
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What reality do you live in where male feminists get the most pussy? It sure as hell ain't this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 08:09 AM
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My mom treated my dad like dirt throughout their marriage because she came from money and he didn't. But financially, he came out of the marriage and divorce pretty well off due to her family's money. Anyways, their situation is not why I'm against marriage for men. Their situation was atypical. Usually it's the opposite and men typically have more to lose from marriage and divorce because they earn more.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 03:33 AM
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I'm not talkin about middle schoolers I'm talking about high school-mid 20s girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 02:40 AM
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Old people here really are out of touch. It's very common for zoomer girls to hype each other up like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 01:10 AM
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It's not God, it's natural selection.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 01:09 AM
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Hey, you guys always talk about high value this high value that. Who is "you guys"? I've never once used that term. Try again. When someone says high value, people tend to assume someone who is educated, has a good job, status in society, respected, etc. Once again, value is normative. What you consider a desirable partner may not be the same as what a woman considers a desirable partner. And frankly their opinion matters more than yours does.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 11:43 PM
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What makes you think its a rumor? Men have to offer something for women to be with them, if it's not raw sexual attraction then it will have to be something else, chief among those factors is money. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/12l5b2u/male_vs_female_income_in_childless_couples/
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 11:16 PM
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How? Women are far more likely to seek a transactional relationship with someone they find less attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 11:11 PM
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No one is obligated to want anything. But if a woman is more demanding towards you compared to other guys then she probably doesn't find you as attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 10:54 PM
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Except that average men aren't getting dates either. Do you yourself think this, or are you attributing this claim to other PPD users? Either way I don't agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 10:23 PM
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Female high standards and pickiness are a myth. Women pick shitty men to fuck all the time: drug dealers, criminals, men in actual prison, abusers, wife beaters, etc. men are absolutely not overestimating their value not even close. "Shitty" is a value judgement. A man who you think is "shitty" because of his criminal nature may actually be highly sexually desirable "bad boy" to women, and/or they're just good-looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 10:22 PM
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Dating can be described using economics Sure. People have a "semi-objective" dating market value Sexual/romantic desirability is value judgement it's just that people tend to value similar things. Even below average women can get men any time they want while average men struggle to even get attention For casual sex they can bat way out of their league. The more commitment is involved the harder it gets.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 10:20 PM
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Bat within your league
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 10:11 PM
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Anyways, I used to get so much anxiety bc of the dumb commenters on here that no man would want me because I liked to have casual sex when I was single. Never to understood the obsession with that. You don't need to tell them that and if they ask you don't need to tell the truth. Most women don't. im loved by a guy who’s feminist (so mf hot) Cringe.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 09:50 AM
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It's only sugar dating if it's explicit. Otherwise it's just a regular ass gold-digger.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 08:06 AM
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show off your wealth. but you actually have to be wealthy. scraping together some money to take her out to a fancy restaurant won't cut it, tons of schmucks will do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 07:29 AM
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from what I’ve seen, fine partners Ehhhhh.... I think the risk is acceptable as long as you don't get in too deep with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 08:59 PM
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"um men are evil when they frustrate our attempts to cuckold them sweaty" If biology didn't matter then there wouldn't be a fertility industry worth tens of billions of dollars or multimillion dollar lawsuits for swapped babies. Women are simply incapable of empathizing with men when it comes to cuckolding.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 08:48 PM
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Never claimed to.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 06:33 PM
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I'm testing out of virtually all the non-CS related courses...... I'm looking at the bigger picture, on the personal level acquiring a degree is definitely useful because it signals things, but the fact that universities require you to take so many courses unrelated to your intended career is wasteful.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 06:23 PM
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20
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 07:11 AM
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on a societal level
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 02:47 AM
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a lot of guys here are neurodivergent Gotta love the PPD armchair psychologists.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 02:18 AM
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Most smart kids that want to go to college stay in school because that's what "you're supposed to do". I'm a smart kid in college right now but the difference is that I'm incredibly lazy. I wouldn't give up my years of waking up at noon and spending my days playing video games for anything. Frankly my coursework burden is quite low because my program is online, so I still do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 02:10 AM
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This goes for men or women who make more. Conveniently for women, they overwhelmingly choose to settle down with guys that make mor than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 02:05 AM
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Habitually sleeping in separate beds is a great litmus test for marriages going to shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 02:05 AM
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The secret is to dump her after you finish residency
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 02:03 AM
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That makes a lot of sense. I think 50/50 should be the default unless one person is doing significantly more housework, or the wealthier person wants a more lavish lifestyle that the other can't afford.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 02:01 AM
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If you're not at least getting sucked off by the third time you see each other, it's time to move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 02:00 AM
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FNF are complete fucking tools LOL, they simp for Tate and he ignores them completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 01:59 AM
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I don't think women find mate guarding attractive, less desirable men who have fewer options tend to mate guard more. A guy who has options and knows he's attractive is less prone to feeling insecure about "losing" his partner, and if his partner displays disloyal behavior he is more willing to simply dump her because he knows he can attract other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 01:58 AM
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You can still attend postsecondary education with a GED. That's what I did. I’ve met plenty of kids who have saved up from their internships and scholarship grants though The vast majority of college students have significant amounts of debt.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 01:56 AM
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It's a wasteful that society places so much value on a degree and that degrees require you to take so many courses unrelated to your intended career.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 01:55 AM
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