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lol the girl drove right into a police checkpoint after running through a crowd. I also love the “drove through a crowd with depraved indifference” as opposed to driving through a crowd with “the best of intentions” 😂
/r/PussyPassDenied24/03/26 08:32 AM
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Click Farming.
/r/PussyPassDenied21/03/26 01:37 AM
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If anybody needed evidence of just how brain rotted conservatives are, and how desperately they are trying to re-invent Charlie Kirk, just read this post. LMAO @ the “It was just a joke!” defense. Just say you don’t know anything about him and leave it at that. It’s the same type of people who say how Trump is just “being hyperbolic” with his latest insanity, until he actually does it, then it’s suddenly “well; he TOLD you he would do it!”
/r/PussyPassDenied24/09/25 09:01 AM
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It’s the overlap of MAGA and incel rage. It is basically the same demographic.
/r/PussyPassDenied24/09/25 08:55 AM
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lol dude considering you’ve hidden your post history, and the only time you’ve endeavored to scold anybody in this thread is to pull the old “TDS!” card, it’s safe to assume where you stand. I’m gonna go out on a limb and assume that you don’t bring the same (if any) energy for MAGA nuts going off on their rants against whatever group Trump told them to hate that week. But, yes. Always good times when somebody gets so triggered they have to go out of their way to tell somebody else how triggered…
/r/PussyPassDenied24/09/25 08:51 AM
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This is what somebody who sees politics as no different from team sports, and has the luxury of not having to suffer any consequences or effects of Trump / MAGA’s orgy of hate and insanity. On top of that, the top comment I was replied on was calling everybody “disgusting” in this thread that dared to not worship at the altar of Trump and Charlie Kirk. I notice you didn’t lecture him to “go outside”
/r/PussyPassDenied24/09/25 07:57 AM
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Nah just letting you know the whole MAGA pearl clutching LARP about lack of decorum and shitty behavior is no longer remotely believable. Which party was the “fuck your feelings” party again?
/r/PussyPassDenied23/09/25 11:30 PM
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Nah just letting you know the whole MAGA pearl clutching LARP about lack of decorum and shitty behavior is no longer remotely believable.
/r/PussyPassDenied23/09/25 11:25 PM
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lol so the effigies of Obama hanging from a noose, the attempt on Pelosi’s life, the gallows erected for the vice president while a mob hunted him down, the president calling half the country vermin and enemies of the people and/or openly stating he’s glad Biden had cancer didn’t do it but … 2 random leftist weirdos putting up signs at a memorial site really did it I guess?
/r/PussyPassDenied23/09/25 06:47 PM
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The term “patriarchy”, like “toxic masculinity” are terms used by people (mostly on the left) to hang everything bad an individual man does at the feet of all men. The fact that these terms are so amorphous is the entire point. It allows them to be weaponized at the whim of the user. “Problematic” is a non-gendered example of such a word.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 09:10 PM
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True for all except the hyper femme lesbians IMO. The ones I’ve know have been every bit as vapid, basic and self obsessed as any straight “insta hottie” type. Their girlfriends are generally quite cool though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 07:16 PM
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It’s not just this sub, it’s official Reddit policy that men are not a “vulnerable group”.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 07:33 PM
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sol-ip•sism | ‘sälap, siz(a)m | noun 1 the quality of being very self-centered or selfish: she herself elicits scant sympathy, such is her solipsism and lack of self-awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 07:27 PM
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If there is one RP saying that everyone can agree on, it’s this: You can’t negotiate attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 08:07 PM
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Ah yes. We’re agreeing then. Online dating is purely 1 dimensional and caters to one demographic: The physical Chad who takes good photos. It makes complete sense why this venue would be dominated by this type. The terminally online get brain rotted into believing this is how it works everywhere all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 07:36 PM
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I mean that’s part of it, but your take is still selling the “women are wonderful” narrative. Women aren’t these altruistic saints who prioritize “a kind heart” over all else. Women mostly just want the “top man”, and if that top man is a shit tipper or doesn’t say thank you at the drive through, she’s gonna be just fine with it 9/10 times. My point was, what constitutes a top man is very much contextual. There are contexts in which that pretty boy Chad will appear beneath, say, a very talented …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 07:23 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 06:57 PM
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This isn’t even hard to understand in the context of RP. It’s the same concept of “niche maxxing” Every niche has its Chads. In online dating, it’s the guy the tends to look the hottest in photos. That the “underwear model” looking guy that looks like an extra from Zoolander will doninate on a platform that is entirely based on photos should not surprise anybody. Now, what if we later find out that underwear model looking guy has the personality of Ben Shapiro and speaks with a lisp? Well, take …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 06:49 PM
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Women vote on male behavior with their pussy. Even the most ardent feminists do this whether they know it or not. Women’s words: “I love a guy who isn’t afraid to cry in front of the woman he loves” Women’s actions: “Ewww” Men then observe and act accordingly. If women started fucking men who could do handstands, the streets would be filled with men walking on their hands tomorrow. Even if those very women swore up and down that they absolutely hate handstands.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 08:26 PM
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Their personality’s are horrible, and that’s why they struggle. I’ve been on and off this sub for around 10 years. The fact that there are people on this sub that still unironically peddle this lie is depressing. How hard is it to just state it accurately? “A terrible personality can turn a yes / maybe into a no” The point being, many (even most) guys are just a “no” to women full stop. Most of the time, no amount of “personality” is going to make up for certain physical deficiencies that turn a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 08:28 PM
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What’s funny is that all the usual suspects on this sub continue to ask year after year “what unique insight does red pill have?!” Even the singular RP mantra: “Ignore what they *say, observe what they **do”* Can be enough to open a lot of guy’s eyes. And of course bloops will say “everybody knows that!”, but what they fail to get is that , especially for younger generations, societal messaging has hammered into their brains that they must take everything women say at face value because Women Ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 08:21 PM
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people online who think the age of consent should be 25 or whatever. I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone in this sub argue for something like that anyway. Lol then you must not have been here long.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 09:25 PM
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On this sub, there are a fair number of women who openly support the age of consent being raised to 25.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 09:23 PM
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Half of marriages end in divorce but large age gap relationships are statistically more likely to end in divorce The has always been the dumbest fucking reasoning I’ve seen used to shit on age gap relationships (second only to “muh undeveloped brain”). How many of your previous exes are you still with? I’d wager somewhere between 0% and 0%. Then the pivot to fucking marriage 😂 As if you can’t point to any number of other differences that increase the already high 50% failure rate. But even still…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 09:21 PM
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You’re making zero sense. Saying “you should make enough money so you can have more life options for travel and activities, etc” is a damn sight different from saying “make money so you won’t ever have to talk to women” as you claimed. Anyway, enough of the bad faith threads for me today. Have a good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 05:03 AM
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Elliot Roger thought being rich and having a nice car would make him attractive to women. That’s an RP idea. Should have stopped reading here. You have zero idea about RP if you actually think this. RP calls that “leading with your wallet” and cringe. Flexing like a cartoon character with a mediocre BMW and Gucci sunglasses has absolutely ZERO to do with any RP ideas lol. Are you confusing this with PUA and “peacocking”? He also thought you shouldn’t give women validation by approaching them, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 04:47 AM
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What would paint a more accurate picture than his autobiography containing his own thoughts? LOL. “To learn the complete history of Hitler, one must only read Mein Kampf” What were your motives for wanting to be a school shooter Who said “wanting to be a school shooter”? I said the “arc” which means feeling alienated, hopeless and resentful while harboring fantasies of “revenge” on the popular kids. This doesn’t mean “violent revenge” it means a sense of being an outsider and getting bullied and…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 03:02 AM
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We mostly agree. I feel like we’ll never know if he had truly followed RP in the “good” way many have (including myself) which in some cases damn near literally took the rope off our necks. As I have said, the possibility of a severe mental defect (ie a complete lack of empathy) may have rendered any benefit RP made in his situation to have been a Pyrrhic Victory scenario in which his psychosis would have merely manifested in another way (ie, he overcomes his inceldom, but then ends up killing h…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 12:30 AM
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Wait did you edit your post? In any case, I have no idea what your point is. He was “exposed” to RP and PUA and rejected them outright, so what difference does it make? Many people have been “exposed” to evolutionary biology yet still don’t understand or believe it. I already acknowledged that his mental illness may have manifested regardless of the course his life took. However, I’ve known many (myself included) who had headed down a similar defeatist, bitter and nihilistic path before finding …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 12:14 AM
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It’s not about his “manifesto”, that doesn’t paint an accurate picture of the steps that occurred along the way to his complete breakdown. It may be correct that his psychopathy combined with his other mental illnesses were too much for anything to overcome, but I can tell you that RP often speaks to these types of people in a way that can snap them out of their doom loop. It happened to me, and it’s happened to many many other guys who were caught in a negativity spiral. There’s something about…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 10:53 PM
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In keeping with my policy of not engaging in bad discussions as they serve little to no purpose, this will be my final reply on this. This is mainly for those who are actually curious about the history of this stuff. So, he was aware of TRP but rejected it Correct. He rejected all non black-pill ideologies and actions like “pick up artistry”, therapy and even medication. likely because it didn’t work Source: Your ass Trust me when I tell you I know more than I should about this guy and he never,…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 10:44 PM
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No. This is the take people that didn’t actually follow these weird subcultures and only have some surface level understanding of them would have. Rodger was very exposed to and immersed in BLACK PILL ideology. He was very active on PUAHate’s “shitty advice” forum, which I used to read for the pure comedy value of it. (Incels are some funny motherfuckers online) PUAhate, as its name implies was entirely about shitting on PUA’s and “dating coach” types which, back then, RedPill was considered a p…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 10:23 PM
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I feel like RP is immensely useful for guys who don’t just naturally “get it” (like me) through either nurture or nature. In my case, it was largely my upbringing that put me in a permanent “women are wonderful” delusion, where I pedestalized women and lived in fear of offending them or making them uncomfortable. I also had severe self esteem issues primarily based around what I internalized as the same “shameful” male sexual nature that I witnessed my siblings and female family members complain…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 09:26 PM
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Yah. I kind of envy guys that are into overweight women, because outside of them being physically unfit, many of them are quite well put together and have cute faces.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 09:44 PM
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Go away. Nobody cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 09:15 PM
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Look everybody! It’s another redditor engaging in petty pedantry on a sub where this colloquial term has been part of the common lexicon for years!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 08:57 PM
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When the top 1% guys give up harems, he gets a very hot girlfriend to recruit for threesomes and have an open relationship. Yes. The “one sided open relationship” is the domain of the top 1% and rich sugar daddies basically. I’ve seen it many times. I think top 30% guys can pull off harems, it’s a matter of his willingness to become not picky enough. It’s not about being picky, it’s about effort versus payoff. Rotating a bunch of morbidly obese chain smoking trailer park moms is not worth the ef…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 08:55 PM
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This bullshit again? The guys who cheated on me were average. 😂 “Eww! That West Elm Caleb guy was a 4 at best!” ~you probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 08:45 PM
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Yeah. That’s why it’s called a soft harem and not just a harem. It basically means the girls will come and go and generally have a “don’t ask don’t tell” approach to the guy because they know he’s dating around.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 08:43 PM
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This is simple. The effort required to obtain / maintain a “soft harem” is directly commensurate with how hot the guy is. A guy that belongs to the “just above average” group can pull it off, but as you said, it requires a significant amount of work. Texting, gaming, charisma, managing jealousy, possibly lying, keeping track of what to say to which girl at what time, staying in meticulous shape, etc. A true top 10% “Chad” can pull this off with far less effort, so it begins to become more appeal…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 08:38 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 06:53 PM
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“I mean, the kid was 9, so it’s not like he was a baby or anything.” ~Child Molester Chad 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 06:21 PM
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Totally. I’m not proud of it, but booze are probably responsible for 90% of my hook ups. Not in the sense that I got the girl drunk, but that I got myself buzzed enough to have the ability to get out of my own way and subdue the anxiety around rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 10:49 PM
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Yeah. No. I did nothing of the sort.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 08:34 PM
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You’re being deliberately obtuse or not able to grasp the point being made. Oddly, everybody else seems to grasp that equating sex with currency is a flawed concept. You seem stuck on the notion that I feel a man spending currency on a date “entitles” him to something, which is not remotely what I’m claiming and is the oldest of PPD straw men. Either way I’m done with the conversation. Have a good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 07:32 PM
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You’re directly comparing sex to a literal currency. THAT is the issue being discussed. You can address it, or I’ll just move on from then conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 07:30 PM
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nothing prevents you from being Chad. LOL. Hear that guys? If you just wish really hard, you too can grow your hair back, increase your height and change your facial bone structure. Damn. Why didn’t anybody tell me this?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 06:31 PM
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It’s certainly a huge part of the problem, but we can’t pretend that societal and cultural trends haven’t been occurring to make the environment far more hostile and difficult for young men than they were even 10 years ago, let alone 20. It’s just that young men need a new set of tools and a new way of understanding the rules and roads of dating in the modern era. Simply “going out and socializing” won’t work if you don’t know how to present yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 11:33 AM
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No argument there.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 09:57 AM
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No. He’s more like too 3% among dating age males. Along the rest of that percentile would be guys like Ryan Gosling, Timothy Chalamet, Chris Pratt, etc. You can see guys that look like them on any normal university campus.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 08:13 AM
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JFC that’s not how it works. I am specifically referring to the top 10% of ALL males of dating age in the US. Are you under the impression that these men are somehow evenly distributed per square mile across the country? FFS, has this sub become more autistic in the past year or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 08:10 AM
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I will say as a man (and I’m sure I speak for others), that being a woman that initiates period is very admirable (and rare). Putting your ego on the firing line is never fun and the fear and anxiety around doing so is absolutely something you must make a conscious effort to fight off. (booze helps tbh) If you don’t find it hard, you’re right that you are a rare breed. Many people (until my later years) find repeated rejections a soul crushing experience that can feel like “rope fuel” after a wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 08:05 AM
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The thing is, it is that hard for the vast majority of men, but hard != impossible. What’s rotted a lot of men’s brains is that they now have a view into the world of a “Chad” and see it as “unfair” that Chad gets things effortlessly, regardless of whether he has low to awful moral character, while they have to toil orders of magnitude higher for less opportunities with (what they see as) lower quality options. Deep down, it simply offends their sense of fairness. In the past, before social medi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 07:28 AM
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Yes. Somebody who says “it’s cold outside, dress warm” is “making things up” because they don’t know the precise temperature, dew point, wind chill factor and the precise internal body temperature of the person they are talking to. You got it, Elon. 🤓
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 03:35 AM
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Oh FFS. It’s just a damn round estimate based on several decades of observed reality around me and shared observations and stories from countless friends who have seen and experienced similar. You want a CDC study? The autism of this place. 🤦🏻‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 03:31 AM
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👆Homeboy really needs a spreadsheet to figure out why a guy that looks like Henry Cavill would get laid easily. Oh, Reddit 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 03:01 AM
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Dude. No. Just no. I’m not playing this game. Unless you’re an alien from another planet you know know exactly what “looks” is in reference to. I’m done with Redditors playing this “tell me what you mean by the sky is blue!” game. Shit is so played out.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 01:53 AM
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Mostly looks and to a lesser degree status. This is ultimately subjective, but trust me, any guy who has had a true “Chad” friend knows precisely the different reality guys in this zone live in. Let’s not play this game of “what even IS a top 10 percent guy?!?’” Anybody who has any semblance of a social life for long enough will encounter guys like this and witness how many women turn in to thirsty hoes around them. I promise you every guy over the age of, say 25, has probably known a guy that f…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 01:45 AM
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This is precisely correct. The issue is many guys today think it’s “all or nothing” They feel like if they’re not getting laid effortlessly through OLD, then their anxiety ridden autistic selves are better off staying home playing Fortnite and watching Black Pill content. The reality is that the majority of guys have to grind for dates and sex. That means facing a lot of uncomfortable, sometimes brutal rejection. That means hearing about various girls you thought you had a chance with, who told …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 12:48 AM
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You just inserted the nebulous modifier of “standards” The fact remains, a top 20 guy can near effortlessly find a sexual partner. The quality of that partner largely depends on his game and where he stands among that 20%.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 12:43 AM
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You know, that’s fair and probably accurate. I forget how long ago I “discovered” this stuff. It was over 10 years ago and RP, while it certainly had those obnoxious and toxic elements, was really confined to mediums like forums or Reddit so there tended to be a more diverse community of thought around it. In the age of TikTok, I can see how, what it is now is just stupid memes and 15 second bombastic videos and outrage porn. It’s one of the reasons the only thing RP related I ever engage with n…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 12:09 AM
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Oops bad math. Fixed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 11:17 PM
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See above.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 11:03 PM
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Your analogies make zero sense. You’re not good at this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 11:01 PM
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This boils down to whether you define “Red Pill” as a field of study or a dogmatic ideology with guru’s and high priests. My perspective is rooted in my experience with forums that discuss these topics in depth and at length such as seen on this sub, and years ago, on the unquarantined TRP sub itself. If your perspective is based on YouTube videos and subsequent comments on Tate, FnF and “Whatever” podcast videos, then you will likely come away thinking it’s just a “dunk on women” circle jerk ce…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 10:58 PM
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It’s largely true. Online dating has turned a lot of guys blackpill and unnecessarily. IRL it works like this: Top 20% of men can generally get laid with near zero effort. Bottom 20% of men can’t get laid no matter how much effort. The remaining 60% of men can get laid, to varying degrees with varying amounts of effort. There are some men that are in that 60% that simply don’t have realistic expectations and don’t have the resilience to continue their efforts in the face of repeated failures. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 10:52 PM
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I’m talking about the core of Red Pill and what takes place during discussions in Red Pill spaces among the men themselves. You are talking about grifters and YouTubers and their fans. A good example of how RP men can be somewhat “therapeutic” for each other is the many threads you’ll see on PPD of men discussing their experiences showing weakness and vulnerability to a girlfriend. Often, they’ll get sympathetic and understanding ears from Red Pill men who understand and have experienced the sam…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 10:26 PM
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I’d believe this if it wasn’t for the fact that redpill spaces actively reinforce the stoicism and emotional rigidity that you claim is the issue. No. RP spaces (rightly) explain how women are repulsed by emotionally weak / vulnerable men and simply point out cause and effect in this regard. According to redpill guys NEVER show emotions to a woman but they also never talk about healthy ways of emotional expression among friends. Horse Shit. The RP spaces themselves are littered with men pouring …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 09:16 PM
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The fuck are you on about? Only a prostitute would talk about sex as a resource akin to money.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 08:59 PM
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You keep harping on “spending money on a date” That’s not the point. The point is equating “sex as currency” is flawed. A proper comparison would be a date where two people walked in a park and shared a deep conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 08:58 PM
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No. If somebody sells you a “Rolex” in a box, you hand over $500 only to later find the box empty you are out $500. If somebody asks you to dance, and leaves after one song, despite you wanting to dance for 2, you still both danced. How is this hard to understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 08:55 PM
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“sex is an *investment*!” 🤣 Women ITT are really telling on themselves with their incessant equating of sex with currency.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 07:02 PM
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So wait… Are you saying that a fungible resource like money is the same as a mutually enjoyable activity like sex? Because that makes women sound a lot like prostitutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 06:58 PM
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You all are really comparing contracting a terminal illness or getting pregnant to … Not getting some guy to commit to you after mutually enjoyable sexual encounter? This is late stage feminism in a nut shell.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 06:47 PM
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Sex is not a fucking resource or hard good. You don’t “lose” anything by having sex because you are a goddamn mutual participant in an otherwise enjoyable activity. It would be like saying “I wouldn’t have gone to see that movie with you if I knew you weren’t going to see the sequel with me!”
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 06:42 PM
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The difference is somebody who gives you a steak dinner with promises of another one, which never comes Versus Somebody who promises serves you chocolate mousse that turns out to be dog shit. You all really think this “he wouldn’t commit” is the same as “secretly a woman with a dick”? This is absolute Reddit brained take.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 06:37 PM
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The amount of women you hear complaining about getting “love bombed” is insane. Especially when you realize the “love bombing” was that Chad sent her a mid day “sup” text and remembered that she liked Pumpkin Spice Mocha or some shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 10:38 AM
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lol that is some brain rotted shit. Comparing not getting commitment from sex to having sex with somebody who isn’t the biological gender you wish to have sex with. Fucking Reddit 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 10:34 AM
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The thing is, you don’t “get” sex like you “get” dinner, jewelry or a car. Sex is a mutually enjoyable act between two people. This comparison would be like comparing stealing a wallet to playing connect four with somebody. The act itself doesn’t take anything anyway from anybody. It’s a ridiculous comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 10:30 AM
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Much like a man buying an expensive dinner on a date entitles him to nothing from a woman, so does sex entitle a woman to nothing from a man. The difference is, in the case of sex, presumably both people enjoyed it and participated mutually in the act.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 10:28 AM
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If the sex was mutually pleasurable and enjoyable how tf was the girl “used for sex. That is some infantilizing shit. This makes it sound like the sex was a chore to be performed by the woman in exchange for whatever promised commitment she felt entitled to.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 10:26 AM
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If you talk about sex like it’s something that is “taken” from you on false pretenses you really should not be having sex in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 10:23 AM
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They stopped it because the hypocrisy was too blinding even for them. But if male athletes raised an issue with women in their locker rooms, take a wild fucking guess what the response would be. The abject misandry of the woman who “fought” for this “right” isn’t even remotely hidden.” Her own words: “Men felt enormously threatened by even the presence of one woman among them’” https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.4839285 Fucking pathetic. Imagine for a minute if a man said similar shit about a woman’s spac…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 02:52 AM
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No. Your therapist is bad because she peddled some horse shit like “men only kill themselves more because they are inconsiderate.” when it’s is at least as likely that a large amount of women’s suicide “attempts” are cries for help and attention seeking. As just about every man who has dated a bipolar woman can attest to. It’s also emblematic of the brain rot that has permeated western society. For the record, I’ve had a great female therapist but the model of therapy itself is fundamentally NOT…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 02:26 AM
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I asked my shrink about the male suicide thing and she said women tend to worry more about traumatizing the person finding them so they tend to use less gruesome methods that fail more often That moment when you completely illustrate the point being made without realizing it. Psychology is another area that is utterly failing men. Women good. Men bad. Even when men are killing themselves at 4x the rate. 🤦🏻‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 10:03 PM
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It’s both a symptom of the problem and a cause of the problem. Jesus. How is this hard to understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 09:45 PM
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Except for the small fact that male reporters are not allowed in female athletes locker rooms. Jesus are people this dense to the larger point?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 09:44 PM
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It’s part of a much larger (western) cultural milieu which perpetuates a pervasive and clear message of “men (and anything they like) = bad”. To pretend otherwise is to be deliberately obtuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 09:42 PM
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Oh yes. The decimation of male spaces, the 4-5x the suicide rate, collapsing participation in higher education and the complete antipathy for masculinity itself in media are all completely unconnected. You figured it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 09:40 PM
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Precisely the dismissive and deliberately obtuse answer I knew I would get. 😂 This bad faith debate style on PPD is utterly boring and completely ineffective. It was already transparent 10 years ago and now it just reads like a dumb cliche. We all know that these two things exist in a cultural soup that amounts to hostility towards male spaces, but people like you will bring up irrelevant shit like “well the Boy Scouts membership was declining!” Or even better “why do you NEED locker rooms?!?!” …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 09:35 PM
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LOL. Yeah I’m sure it has nothing whatsoever to do with certain people being tone policing Karens who bring mad school principle vibes to the workplace. “What is that? An Anime desktop wallpaper?” DISGUSTING I feel objectified. Time for (another) trip to HR! This shit isn’t new and thank god companies are starting to get tired of being held hostage by the neo puritan feminist crusader Karens. We are not going back. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donglegate
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 09:32 PM
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No. I’m not playing this tired ass Reddit game or “bRiNg me eXampLes!1!1!” when anybody with eyes and ears fucking KNOWS them already. This is an issue that is no longer up for debate and the one single solitary silver lining of the Trump win is that my fellow democrats / liberals will finally have to contend with hostility towards men on the left for real.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 09:29 PM
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The fuck does a “boy’s night” have to do with the systematic dismantling and cultural hostility towards male spaces? You think this manifests as some plank of wood with “NO BOYS ALLOWED!” painted in white on a door? No. It’s everything from the cultural attitude that leads to the Gillette Ad to Boy Scouts allowing girls to Reddit’s own policy on what constitutes “gendered hate speech” The issue is at every level of society we are putting up obstacles to the creation of male spaces. Contrast this…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 09:25 PM
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I’m not playing that “bUt gIvE mE a sPECiFic pErSoNaL eXaMpLe!1!1!l” game when we all know this is happening in covert and overt ways that are systematic and cultural rather than individual. But a few easy examples come to mind. https://www.cnn.com/2017/10/11/us/boy-scouts-will-allow-girls-to-join/index.html The historic decision (to admit girls into the Boy Scouts) comes after years of receiving requests from families and girls https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melissa_Ludtke On Sept. 25, 1978, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 09:21 PM
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Translation: Men don’t function like women socially, therefore men are “broken” and at fault for all of their own problems. No. Men bond over different activities, use different conversational styles and express vulnerability in different ways from women. The things that used to give men of ALL kinds a sense of community and belonging were very often male spaces. Well, women invaded, cancelled or mutated nearly all of those “problematic” male spaces and made every effort to police them and make …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 08:53 PM
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This is actually a fantasy. You are writing your own erotica. Lol oh ok. Yes I’m lying. Making it all up! My takes are not in fact of decades of dating and observing women’s behavior in private versus their declared behavior in public. No point in continuing if it’s all “fan fiction”‘right? A) I do actually tell my besties about my obsession with my husband’s dick including frequent BJ and occasionally making myself vomit on his dick because I can’t always fully handle it. LMAO. The fact that yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 09:17 PM
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lol oh yes. the old “you’re just finding those BAD women!” As if I don’t have peripheral knowledge that verifies all of this of this shit through countless other men as well. If you’ve ever known a true “Chad” you’d see women who speak with moral indignation just like you will also blow Chad in the stall during a tipsy girls night out. And I promise you, besties very likely aren’t telling each other they like to be slapped and choked in the bedroom because they fear it would be seen as “problema…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 07:09 PM
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Culture as in high culture or just non-geeky popular culture? Anything nerd adjacent (gaming, anime, LARPing, etc) will not induce attraction in women unless you’re already physically attractive. I don’t think geeky cutlure is a turnoff. Sure, Henry Cavill gets a big “awww” when he talks about war hammer. Steph Curry gets seen as “relatable” when he talks about video games. Now do Melvin, Truong or the fat “Dungeon Master” guy. Some of the most attractive women I know have hobbies far geekier th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 06:36 PM
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You’ve responded to a few posts, but still fail to acknowledge the force of biology. This isn’t some “obsession with biology” this is observed reality that has been prove through tens of thousands of years of human existence and millennia of recovered history. Essentially saying “just find something else to focus on, bro” is no realistic until you untangle precisely what they are fighting against. What men are competing against to achieve the goal you seem to think is quite straightforward is no…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 10:59 AM
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I’ll make this simple. When it comes to what perversion and shady sexual stuff women get up to, the vast majority have a sample size of one; themselves. Men who have dated around know just what a disparity many to most women have between the personality they present to their “friends” and what they actually get up to when they are horny. I’ve witnessed too many girls sweetly tell their friend, sister, boyfriend or even fiancé they were “out with the girls” while I was still inside of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 04:24 AM
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you are taking the things that you want (sex) and assuming that everyone else wants it similarly as the topmost priority without other fears. Clearly it isn’t ridiculous that most women don’t have promiscuous sex, LOL Ok. You can spare me the sugar and spice talk about women. I’ve lived long enough to know what complete horse shit this is. I’ve turned over the rock that is female sexuality and this “tee hee we are just so shy and afraid of being sexual” line is nonsense. Most women will turn int…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 04:16 AM
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I mean, I’m not young myself, and I realize that most of the issues we are discussing here don’t apply to me personally. The realities of dating for the under 35 crowd are far different than the kind you and I grew up with. A lot of this sub will make more sense when you realize that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 02:42 AM
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Yes I’m aware of all the down sides women experience as a result of (undesired) male thirst. I grew up in a family consisting virtually solely of women including 3 older sisters. I know how exhausting and demoralizing that kind of shit was on them. Yet, none of this has anything to do with women having immensely more options when it comes to dating and sex than men which is what we are discussing. The notion that women don’t appreciate / use that privilege because some creeps catcall and harass …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 02:40 AM
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but we are all 60+ so maybe its an age thing. 🤣 You Think?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 01:55 AM
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One single “cute selfie” post and a few lines of text on social media would fix that in 10 minutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 01:53 AM
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And as I said, if most men lived in a world where they could snap their fingers and get sex and validation, they’d be far more inclined to “embrace” it as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 12:13 AM
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A lot of women don’t find casual sex satisfying and rather have no sex than bad sex. Lol. No. I’ve been close friends with countless women who prove this to be nonsense. Women “don’t like casual sex” u until they need to “feel sexy” then they are down to fuck that hawt club guy to get her groove back. Women don’t like casual sex as a matter of course, but they absolutely can and will indulge in it when the urge strikes. The tacit knowledge women have that they can always pull that lever provides…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 12:08 AM
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you don’t have to be genetically gifted to have some success with women, just having game and good social skills and putting yourself in the right situations will do wonders for some of these dudes. Truth. A huge problem I have with RP types is that they are close to blackpillers on this subject and its is totally destructive to a lot of young men. Obviously “having social skills” is a large mountain to climb, but it is one of the few areas as a man that effort is generally commensurate with res…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 12:01 AM
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I completely agree with you, but people need to stop selling this fantasy that you can “do what you’re passionate about and the women will follow because you’ll be happier” or whatever. That’s not how it works. A good example is electronic music. If you’re a just a producer / composer, it doesn’t matter how many bangers you make and how well you know audio engineering, the DJ who never produced a song in his life who happens to be playing your music to a crowd is the one getting laid. Not you, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 11:56 PM
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9/10 the whole “I’m just a sex object” lament is pure fiction. Most of the time women have plenty of suitors who are simply not “up to her standards” and her “feeling like a sex object” comes down to her selecting guys out of her own league / with so many options they use her as such. Even if this WERE true, to not be able to get the relationship you want but to be seen as sexually desirable is FAR preferable to not being able to get any relationship and to be seen as sexually repulsive. The lat…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 11:52 PM
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Are you under the impression that such a thing is a choice for most men?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 11:48 PM
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Wait, is the supply / demand disparity actually news to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 08:14 PM
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This shit again? No guy is getting mad pussy because he’s cultivated his passion for “Magic The Gathering” or because he is a top tier Fortnite player. A guy is appealing to women only when he is seen as cultured, confident, fun and interesting to a particular woman. The demographic of women who get turned on by the “best stamp collector” isn’t exactly booming.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 08:13 PM
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He’s right in that it is possible to reframe and transcend such base and strong desires, but I think he is underestimating the extremes most men would need to go to in order to do this. We’re talking literal monastery level monk mode where your damn near full time job is suppressing these feelings and desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 08:09 PM
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You make good points elsewhere but you seem to be denying and hand waving away biology. Is a bee pollinating a flower just giving in to a “cultural narrative”? Come on man. Men are hardwired to pursue sex in a very fundamental and unique way. This is a breath away from the argument that men and women have the exact same sex drive and it’s just “social constructs” that make men pursue sex the way they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 08:07 PM
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if you are single because no woman would ever look your way and you don’t have a rich social life / interesting life in general, sure it’s going to suck. My man. It’s 2025. What in the ever loving fuck do you think most young men today are experiencing when it comes to dating around and casual sex? An embarrassment of riches? The entire reason this “male loneliness epidemic” is a thing is because they can’t find ANY intimacy from women, not that they are opting out.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 08:03 PM
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I mean by this definition life itself is a childish endeavor with no payoff. That’s not a unique take obviously and is why religion has been and always will be a thing. Still, Buddhism which is more philosophy than religion kind of gets to the core here: Pursue actions that minimize suffering. As in, suffering is inevitable, but if you are “aware”, you can find paths in life that lead to a more content and peaceful existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 07:58 PM
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I’m usually inclined to push back on “you don’t need sex or relationships to be happy” type arguments, but you’ve made a compelling case ITT. I think a huge part of this is that men tend to be “goal” or “project” oriented, and when you’re lonely and sexless, well, guess what male biology is going to push as your primary goal? Even if you have other goals that, as you said, act as mere distractions this is still precarious because you may get bored of them or they may be fleeting in their rewards…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 07:56 PM
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They know they can get sex. Which is quite different than being in a relationship. You know what is “quite different” from either of those? Not being in a relationship and not being able to get sex. Contemplate that reality for years on end and you’ll start to understand what being “single” means to a man versus to a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 07:48 PM
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LOL. Imagine how many men would “embrace single life” if such a thing entailed “no strings sex is available whenever you want it”.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 07:47 PM
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Nail on head. This is why you hear so many women on PPD say shit like “you’re competing with how happy I am being single!” 💅 No shit, when your baseline is sex-on-demand and getting gassed up by girlfriends and simps on social media, I can understand why you’d wait around for “Mr. Perfect”, who most likely will never show up.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 07:44 PM
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Bingo. Most women being “single” is a completely voluntary “opt out” scenario. It’s like those rich people who buy a log cabin in the mountains to LARP as poor people to “re-connect with what’s important”. The minute there’s a mudslide, flood or their log cabin burns down, they are going right back to their cushy loft with panoramic city views. When men are single they have to rebuild the entire cabin or they die, which kind of makes that cabin burning down sting a whole lot more. Also, even whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 07:36 PM
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This classic SNL skit showing various male Harry Potter characters reacting to Hermoine’s “growth spurt” demonstrates this struggle perfectly. https://youtu.be/uwfdFCP3KYM?si=vphtplcppmEMPQ3X
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 07:43 PM
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My favorite is when we get the old “but women are just as horny as men!” comeback. Women on PPD can’t conceive of a world in which there is any burden a man faces that a woman doesn’t also face in equal or greater measure.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 07:39 PM
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First I’ll take a quote from a “Modern Wisdom” podcast about this subject that stuck with me so much in transcribed it: Therapy models that are focused on feeling “heard” instead of helping men regain a sense of personal power are destined to fail because men see them as useless and men walk away from useless things very quickly. Men need solutions, not just feelings. That about sums it up. A good male psychologist will approach problems with this in mind. On a lighter note, the HBO series Rome …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 11:44 PM
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All it can do at best - is to convince the dude that he’s actually strong enough to tackle his issues and watch him go. I’m a man who has been in and out of therapy of some kind for 30 years. While I agree with your points about how ineffective therapy can be, the “convince him he can tackle the issue” can be the difference between life and death if you are actually clinically’depressed. Don’t undersell that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 11:32 PM
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Nobody said “men don’t care about feelings” Men absolutely care about feelings, but therapeutic models focused on navel gazing and obsessively talking about them in order to “feel heard” is not as effective with men as it is with women. Men tend to respond to feelings of agency and concrete steps to improve their situation and affect their environment. This is why something like “learn to embrace rejection by exposing yourself to it in life and counting every attempt as a win” is effective while…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 10:23 PM
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Modern therapy models fail to resonate with men because they don’t focus on agency and a person’s ability to affect their own environment. Men respond to action based and aspirational models rather than endless discussions of “feelings”. However, even the most ardent RP guy can agree that becoming as comfortable as possible with rejection, and lots of it, is absolutely essential to being able to operate in the modern dating world. Facing rejection and sometimes cruel and humiliating rejections a…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 09:08 PM
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Venereal Disease VD is what we olds used to call STI’s / STD’s
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 07:41 PM
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Oh FFS. Do we have to do this again? https://preview.redd.it/aacy5jyzk8ae1.png?width=472&format=png&auto=webp&s=e95687073a528fa2844a8486d40d76fd7e304584
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 07:34 PM
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lol you think a straight woman would be cool being called “butch”? Come on man.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 07:07 PM
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It’s also just shows a lack of understanding and antipathy toward the affectionate ball busting that close male friends show each other. It’s like anything outside of the disingenuous gassing up that women do for each other is seen as “toxic” This meme comes to mind: <image> Men actually see the hot woman telling her fat friend she “looks stunning and hot” in the dress that’s way too small for her, rather than telling her “you gotta hit the gym Suzy” as truly toxic. Oddly, I’ve found gay men to …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 07:05 PM
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Becoming tired of the grind and emptiness involved with serial hook ups (which I can relate to) has absolutely nothing to do with feeling a lack of sexual attraction towards sexually attractive 25 year old adult females. Saying “I wouldn’t throw away my marriage” is not the same as saying “My mind and body want to fuck that hot girl over there, I just don’t do it” You’re here claiming to be above the absolutely normal and natural male sexual impulse to want to have sex with hot prime age adult f…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 06:39 PM
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I like the part where you say “to be their wife” as if that was remotely the conversation. The entire way you’re framing this shit sounds like you’re some Victorian “gentlemen” who walks around with a monocle rather than a real life man with a sex drive. https://preview.redd.it/w9re4seb34ae1.jpeg?width=182&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c1c04bde10ac49220b1723187bcd7f9b8d1b414f
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 04:28 AM
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Nice high minded flowery language. To me, that “I only have eyes for one woman” sounds like virtue signaling, low sex drive or both. Again, my own long experience and observations say otherwise. We can leave it to the readers to decide if their lived and observed reality matches this image of “gentlemanly” sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 04:24 AM
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probably tons of 50 year-old men who look at 20 year-old women in porn but would never actually choose to have a relationship with a young woman. “A relationship” is one thing, thinking your average single 50 year old man would turn down a hot 25 year old because “muh life stages” is utterly laughable It’s simply not socially acceptable, and for those reasons alone, most people wouldn’t do it. Ah yes. Whoever heard of people doing “socially unacceptable” things when it comes to sex and dating? T…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 11:03 PM
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The porn that men look at does not equate to the women they seek out to be in relationships. Not that I would ever be with a man who used porn with any regularity. Both of these statements are equally delusional and naive but for different reasons. Again, they don’t survive exposure to real life and actual knowledge of male sexuality. It’s that same kind of weird wishful thinking about what men should want (according to women) rather than acknowledging what men actually want.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 08:58 PM
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Think about what you just said. “In the majority of cases” Well, “In the majority of cases” even Chad is getting turned away in a cold approach. Even Chad is probably getting left swipe “in a majority of cases”. The difference is that Chad has a much higher Home Run average. Your argument is like saying the guys who consistently hits singles, has a good eye for pitches and can steal bases should just quit the game because Barry Bonds exists. After all, Bonds could just hit home runs in one swing…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 08:01 PM
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This is some internet only virtue signalling shit. In my 10 years on-and-off on this sub, this age gap / younger women / “muh undeveloped brain” discussion literally only exists here. Out in the real world, I see a shit load of age gap relationships, with handsome older men and hot younger women and I see zero debate that a 25 year old hot girl is desirable to men of all ages. FFS, there was a commercial in the 90’s where Bob fucking Dole insinuated he wanted to fuck Britney Spears. This is what…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 07:54 PM
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You’re trying to apply the way female attraction and arousal works to males. That is your fundamental mistake here. How many pious virtue signalling men getting caught in whorehouses or with a stockpile of “barely legal” porn do you need to see that male sexuality is simply based on wanting to fuck the hottest woman he can get access to. It’s not that deep.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 07:48 PM
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History is littered with high status men choosing younger women proving otherwise. Men with options overwhelmingly prefer hotter women. Younger women tend to be hotter. This isn’t fucking rocket science.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 07:45 PM
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The debate is over how static and absolute this “looks bar” is. RP autists can’t comprehend just how idiosyncratic some women’s tastes are.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 07:40 PM
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But sometimes they are just extremely horny, and I’d need to recite one of Hitler’s speeches to fumble it at that point lol. 😂 clears throat stands solemly “The November criminals have stabbed us in the back! But we will no longer be hypnotized by the Bolshevik puppet masters and their mongrel spawn. These invaders are unwelcome, unwanted and they are everywhere! They are vermin and should be dealt with as such!!!” (zzzZZIP)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 07:36 PM
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A guy who is only sort of good looking needs to have a shit load of intangibles (i.e. swagger/game). This is me. For some reason blackpillers and a significant amount of red pillers seem to be unable to comprehend a guy that is NOT Chad but is also NOT a hideous monster. A guy who is very good looking can get away with a minimum of swagger/game. This is truly the thing nihilist and binary thinkers miss. Chad can still turn a yes into a no with a repellant asexual personality. I’ve seen it many t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 07:25 PM
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Your deliberate obtuseness is boring. Have a good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 06:25 AM
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lol what’s next? You gonna start talking about furries too? If I said “people have two arms” is that incorrect because some are occasionally born with 1?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 05:26 AM
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If a man is not attracted to a sexually attractive 25 year old, he’s either lying or has an issue with his dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 03:29 AM
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Many many women of all ages invest a huge portion of their identities and self worth into their attractiveness. This is not news. People need to stop acting like what has been common sense for hundreds of years suddenly isn’t a thing because some 3rd wave feminists desperately want to believe otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 03:25 AM
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That’s reductive and ridiculous. A 25 year old that “dated around” from age 16 is going to know herself and her preferences better than a 35 year old “late bloomer” that was kissless until her mid 20’s. I’ve known tons of women in both categories. The part you’re forgetting is the role options, insecurity and desperation play. You seem to think older women are immune to insecurity and desperation and the resulting means that gives men to manipulate them. I’m here to tell you that is absolutely N…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 02:14 AM
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If you don’t find 25 year old women sexually attractive, you may want to get your T levels checked. If your dick sees fully grown adult women as “children”, there may be a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 01:54 AM
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Those women are very normal. Stop trying to sell the fantasy that most women don’t feel insecure about their age as they get older. It defies common sense and doesn’t survive experience with real life. Women are human beings with their own insecurities just like everybody else. You are correct about men aspiring to be “Chad” or whatever. Does anybody deny that? I’m also not sure how that’s relevant to this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 01:24 AM
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It’s absolutely nuts. This is why this sub is just kind of useless now. It’s pure gaslighting and doesn’t survive the “real life” test. Women acting like they don’t get insecure and still seek validation when they get older is nothing but whistling past the graveyard. It’s not inline with reality. Yes, older women will demand men jump through more arbitrary hoops based on their past “trauma”, but at the end of the day they are more desperate to find and bag a “good man” and that can very easily …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 01:18 AM
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Simply Wrong. First, any remotely attractive younger woman will have an endless army of men offering to wine and dine her. Many men offer much more. Acting like modern young western women are some Victorian naive shut ins is fucking laughable. And re: “love bombing”, first that’s a ridiculous feminist buzzword like “emotional labor” used to remove accountability as always. Also, if anybody is superbly to “love bombing”, trust me, it’s the older woman who is worried about her waning hotness narro…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 01:14 AM
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The big lie here is that older women aren’t also validation seeking. They are. They just hide it and beat the instinct down. Combine that with the fact that those older women have less resources to satiate that need for validation and you get your typical defensive and angry woman who masks her fear of aging with anger and combativeness. Every man over 35 with a decent dating history has met this woman many many times.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 01:10 AM
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Older women who are feeling their looks fade. That’s who.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 01:06 AM
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If you’ve dated much, you’ve encountered these very women. They are the ones that rarely smile, and when they do it’s forced and fake. They are quick to take offense at any and every opportunity, to lecture, to behave with suspicion, to speak condescendingly, to brag about their “career” as if it makes them an attractive partner. They are constantly looking for any slip up or minuscule “red flag” and make this very apparent. They think this makes them desirable partners and “independent women” I…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 01:05 AM
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This is a conversation I’ve had on this sub a thousand times. Many of those with you. I can already start it and finish it in my head without saying a word. It’s like a goddamn script and It’s thoroughly uninteresting. It’s also been debunked and dismantled so many damn times on this sub, one can only conclude the only people still making this “ew gross! ew old!” argument here have a crazy ass axe to grind. It’s not reflective of the nuanced and complicated world actual humans live in, but rathe…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 12:55 AM
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Oh dear god, the Age Gap Crusaders are still at it on this sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 12:52 AM
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lol all I hear are some generic FDS / TwoX style trolling attempts. Not interested. Reality is reality, regardless of how many copes get posted. Have a good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 12:51 AM
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No it won’t “take its toll”. It will just lead to them to be both desperate for validation and combative and bitter. Those women will still jump at the chance to try to lock down Big Dick Rick, the handsome law partner and they’ll make fools of themselves to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 12:48 AM
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younger women are more easy to manipulate. Can we let this blue pill myth fucking die already? I’m an old man and I’ve dated all over the age ranges multiple times. There is virtually NO correlation between how “easy to manipulate” a woman is and her age. In fact, I can tell you from personal experience the easiest women to manipulate are older women who are insecure about their waning hotness. Young hot women have literally infinite suitors and options. They have zero need or reason to put up w…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 12:46 AM
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Humble Brag circle jerks aside, I think the point is that men simply prefer attractive women who are not combative and angry. On average, younger women tend to be more attractive, less combative and angry. The existence of hot women in their 30’s does not somehow mean the average 36 year old woman is hotter than the average 23 year old woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 12:39 AM
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This. It’s very common to hear women say things like “I’m taking a break from dating” It’s equally common to hear men say “I can’t get a single date”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 10:25 PM
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Okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 09:33 PM
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After being away from this sub for half a year, I can safely say that this “debate” very rarely happens outside of this sub and certainly never happens IRL. In short, it’s confirmed that when it comes to takes like these, this sub and possibly “TwoX” are the only places women seem to give a fuck about it. I advise men to act accordingly. This age gap obsession is not only a terminally online thing, but a very specific one.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 09:05 PM
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I was away from this sub for almost 6 months, and just came back to see “what’s new” What I noticed that while most of the RP men and reasonable women have moved on, as far as misandrist angry women, they’ve all stuck around with the same damn insults with the same exact takes they had for years, and that honestly makes me kind of sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 09:02 PM
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TLDR; straw men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 02:36 AM
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I’m not sure why everybody is misunderstanding the point about fat women. The point is merely having the preference gets you called “fatphobic” Example: Try making a post anywhere on Reddit saying “I’m no longer attracted to my formerly fit girlfriend after she got fat” or “A girl wants to date me and her friends asked me why I turned her down but I don’t want to tell them it’s because she’s overweight” Watch how quickly the responses fly in about how you “can’t handle a real woman” and “are you…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 09:12 PM
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The very fact that a man doesn’t want to fuck them gets a man called “porn brained”, “fatphobic” and “afraid of real women’s bodies.” by large swaths of women in the west. But you knew that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 09:07 PM
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This “iTs OnLy oNlInE pEoPlE!1!1” shit is another myth that needs to die now. In 2012 you may have been able to smell this “online vs IRL” but what we have been seeing and what has become absolutely evident is that much of the online shit IS now mainstream for better or worse (mostly worse). Also, just because “most people don’t bring it up” IRL doesn’t mean it doesn’t affect people’s voting decisions. If your entire brand (Democrats / The Left) has hitched its wagon to causes, messages and publ…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 09:04 PM
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I wouldnt say this either, sometimes my SO gets on top and her sole purpose is to make me cum bc I knew somebody was going to bring this up. The fact remains you are penetrating her. you are needing to get hard and control your orgasm for 99% of the experiences. This “just let her get on top and ride until I cum” shit would get YOU rightfully called a no-effort loser by most women if done the majority of the time. The fact that you get this as an occasional “treat” doesn’t change what’s expected…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 12:08 AM
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Huh? This “woman good / man bad” shit is the modern popular zeitgeist, especially among the left. Can we please just stop pretending otherwise?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 12:04 AM
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That’s not remotely the point. The point is that women (and society at large) will shame men for any number of preferences with women (as seen in this thread), even when those things are largely in her control like a smelly pussy, being fat or starfishing while damn near celebrating women when they body shame men for things beyond their control like being short, balding or having a small dick. I swear, I was away from this sub for 6 months and it’s just the same goddamn gaslighting and deliberat…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 12:03 AM
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Cool story. Meanwhile in the real world there are varying degrees of this shit. Sometimes you don’t know about how bad a woman’s smell can get until things get more “involved” Sometimes women will just “give it a shot” Sometimes you’re buzzed and just think “oh well, better than nothing” Sometimes you really like everything else about the person, so you hope that you can look past those things. But you knew all that and just wanted to sell the fantasy of a person stopping mid-sex because they go…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 12:00 AM
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This sounds like some god tier “gender studies” brain rot. 😂 But go off.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 11:54 PM
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No. Because women bitch. A lot. And about everything. Especially when they feel slighted by a man. More at 11.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 10:18 PM
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lol you also can trace it back to men clubbing women over the head to have sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 10:15 PM
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if someone’s pussy smells “rank”, why are you (general you) fucking it to begin with? Are you under the impression that one can detect the smell of a pussy through clothes? See also: “I wanted to fuck him at first, but when he got naked I saw he had a small dick, but it was too late so I just fucked him anyway” which I’ve many women say about their hook ups. if you don’t like fat women, why are you fucking a fat woman to begin with? We are talking about preferences. Again, you see this “you just…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 10:13 PM
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While I don’t disagree, this “biological determinism” road is not one that most women are really willing to fully go down.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 09:33 PM
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Checking all the boxes I see. “Men think they are OWED sex!” “Men want FAKE porn bodies!” Etc Surprised you didn’t bust out the old favorite “men just want a mommy bangmaid™!!1” Talk about terminally online takes. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 09:29 PM
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I’ve seen many women complain that men who get turned off by rank smelling pussies are judgemental mysoginists who can’t handle real women’s “natural” body odors. men grossed out by fat women are fatphobic assholes who demand perfection men who complain about starfish sex are themselves the problem and are probably “porn brained” losers This shit repeats itself in every thread like this on reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 09:13 PM
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Nah I actually get what they’re saying. It’s just literally the mechanics of the process that put a lot of the burden of performance (or control) on the man. Women never say this, but they will never be the fuckER and always the fuckEE. The rules of nature dictate that the onus is on the fuckER unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 09:09 PM
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As ever, men need to work, constantly prove themselves and “earn” things to be deemed worthy of something as basic as good sex. Women need to … exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 09:06 PM
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normal woman don’t have sex like a porn star Well thank Christ I’ve been with many “non normal” women that actually know how to fuck with enthusiasm and don’t fuck like … whatever it is you seem to think is “normal”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 09:05 PM
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You’re saying specifically that mental and emotional strength are fundamentally different between men and women Show me where I said anything about “strength”. and attributing this to biological nature when much of it is socialization. Show me where is said none of it was socialization. Why do strong parents raise strong children (regardless of gender) and why do weak parents raise weak children (regardless of gender)? They don’t. Plenty of “weak” parents create strong kids because those kids le…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 05:26 AM
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I understand the difference between sex and gender. I also understand that many psychological and behavioral traits of each gender are heavily influenced by their biological sex while many on the woke left pretend gender traits are just entirely socially enforced norms despite them being observable across civilizations and historical periods . I also understand that pretending the second point isn’t reality while lecturing people with esoteric gender studies rhetoric will continue to lose us ele…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 04:34 AM
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Me: Men and women desire different things. Claiming they are “the same” and “are only socialized differently” is a big part of the “gender is just a social construct” horse shit the left has peddled for years. You: Long diatribe about “Marxism” or something. I’m just gonna back away slowly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 02:07 AM
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I like the part where you list what things various types of men gravitate towards while completely avoiding what various types of women gravitate towards. Almost like you’re avoiding that subject entirely. I also like how you didn’t acknowledge that there are fundamental differences in brain chemistry and reaction to stimuli between men and women and have to reduce it to shit like “less upper body strength” This is why the left loses. Even when they begrudgingly acknowledge there are some differ…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 09:18 PM
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It really should be this simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 10:23 PM
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lol that’s hilariously brilliant “Our brains develop faster than men’s! 💅” UPDATE: “Right up to the age we are expected to take accountability for our actions, at *that point, it’s totally slowed back down to be the same as men. TeeHee™*”
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 10:16 PM
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You’re not wrong, but also what happens is that the very existence of the group gets labeled misogynistic or at least “problematic” by man haters who, at least today, very much have the social capitol and soft power to strangle those movements in their crib. See: Obama’s “My brother’s keeper” initiative.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 08:37 PM
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Notice how when some social ill befalls women, be it “body image”, be it “eating disorders” or “unrealistic beautify standards”, society is asked to “do better” and soul search? Suddenly we get outrage, awareness campaigns, politicians scolding companies, billboard defacements, and Barbie movies. But men dying of suicide at 4x the rate and deaths of despair, falling behind in education and income any myriad of ways is met with either a collective “nothing we can do” or just a straight up “tough …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 11:57 AM
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This is one of the most binary autistic things ever written. Your post is black pill lookism nonsense. Nobody denied some “hawt” Chad can bang girls whenever he wants. He simply can’t bang any’ girl whenever he wants because that shirtless frat douche may not flip a given woman’s switch. You seem to think the fact that Chad can bat .500 at a nightclub where he’s hot shit, means that same Chad can run the same game on some hot pre-med student out for a drink at the local bar just because he’s Cha…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 06:48 AM
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It’s sucks because this message of understanding, as you pointed out, the marked difference between the triggers of male and female “carnal desire” is one of the undeniably valuable realms of inquiry that RP does well. RP is always at its worst as it veers into black pill absolutism and lamentations. Young men are falling into the fatalism / nihilism trap as a result of social media and an “all or nothing” mindset where you are either Chad or an Incel. Young men really do need something like a n…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 12:07 AM
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If two consenting adults dating / having sex / relationships while sharing things m bothers you, It’s gonna be a tough ride. Stay salty.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 11:58 PM
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Cheers. Guess we were conveying the same thing in different ways. I will say, having known a few semi-famous to “high status” men, they absolutely generate real arousal in women. This is something BlackPill types (not saying you) get wrong because they are so convinced that surface looks are the only way women’s primal attraction gets triggered. There are absolutely tons of women who will sport fuck famous guys with zero intention of gold digging. They find the status and influence arousing in a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 08:30 PM
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What does an unemployed 25 year old woman have in common with a 30 year old finance bro The better question is: why the fuck is it any of your business why two people decide to date, fuck or share a life together? I’m going to guess you’d say “love is love” to the older gay bear and younger twink because “that’s different?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 08:27 PM
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So surface level conversations. Neat. Lol ah yes, art, health and advanced education goals. Totally the same as talking about Taylor Swift and Kardashians. Yes, some people are creepy weirdos who can only “attract” young women. This brain rot again?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 08:25 PM
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So they are strawmanning. Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 08:22 PM
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This argument has been tossed around on this sub for a decade. It’s easily dismissed since you could also say “no father would want his daughter dating a rapper” or a Jewish father or wanting his daughter dating a catholic, or a white father not wanting his daughter dating … Well you get the picture. Fathers aren’t exactly know for trusting their daughters dating decisions now are they? Most of them would deem a fucking choir boy unworthy of his “little girl”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 08:17 PM
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attraction is hard to notice. There have been times where I thought some chick was super, duper hot, but objectively no sign was present. Yes. Women don’t approach men. They do things like “give them the eyes” or “stand near him” and call that “flirting”. The few women that do try to approach men are almost invariably shit at it. This is not news. The same applies vice verca. You cant tell. There is no sign. One must go and talk. Yes. Men must approach women. Often based on nothing more than a h…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 08:07 PM
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To men “looks” is fairly synonymous with “carnal attraction.” This is not the case for women. For women it’s not that we think people are ugly or models, it’s simply that until something “sparks” we don’t… feel much of anything at all. There’s no compulsion. No arousal. And thus no “attraction ✨.” This should be stickied. This simple fact also explains so many other things. It explains the difference between RP and BlackPill thinking in that RP understands that “vibe and swagger” can, at the ver…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 07:34 PM
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Then it should be called something else since the SJW’s that use the term so often are quite fond of policing and changing all manner of language deemed “problematic”. Like I said “unrealistic expectations of men” would be far more accurate, but the people that love the term “toxic masculinity” love it precisely because it essentially connotes collective (and inherent) guilt.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 10:13 AM
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I remember I was walking by this outdoor bar with my then hot girlfriend a long time ago, and somebody just straight up yelled out “She likes you for your money!” This shit is totally normalized.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 08:23 PM
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Then maybe the group that absolutely loves to invent new words to replace “problematic” ones should come up with terminology that isn’t inherently tied to a biological immutable trait held by half the population of the world? Maybe instead of “patriarchy” we say “profiteering power structures”? Maybe instead of “toxic masculinity” we say “harmful gendered expectations”? Or maybe that’s too much to ask from the same people that came up with shit like “unhoused persons” and “LatinX”?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 07:37 PM
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The issue is the lack of pushback. It’s just like how Kamala needed to push back on the excesses of wokism. Her failure to do so hurt her and was seen by many as silent consent. So far, there is one single tepid blurb from Emma Watson being held up as an example of this, when even that example is tacitly saying the same old “men are hurt by patriarchy (ie other men) too!” She does not call out women for doing this, she calls out what she sees as the incorrect “perception” of feminism as the culp…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 07:31 PM
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I’ve been away from this sub for several months. After coming back I’ve noticed the only people still here are the trolls making the exact same arguments they were making a year ago. I do not expect it to change. This sub is failing to evolve as a result tbh. Also, remember guys “feminism isn’t mainstream”! <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 07:26 PM
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So simple so true. I can’t tell you how frustrating it is to be on “the left” because I like things like strong unions, legal weed, safe but rare abortions, affordable health care but then have to watch those causes go down in flames because feminists and wokism just can’t be condemned by the party as it should. So now I get to be disgusted with both Trumpers AND The Left.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 07:16 PM
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Uh I believe Feminism took a pretty decisive blow from young men about 2 months ago?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 07:12 PM
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“Women’s problems are caused by men.” But also “Men’s problems are caused by men.” Gee, I wonder why a generation of young men feel alienated and more suicidal than ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 07:09 PM
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This. I fucking hate this feminist cop out more than any other. “tOxiC mAscUliNity hUrTs mEn tOo!1!1” is so goddamn dismissive, smug and gaslighty. It’s a way for women to let themselves off the hook for any of their own contributions to this problem and never needing to look deeper into it. See also “internalized misogyny” It all comes down to women never having to analyze their own behavior let alone their own nature because “men are doing it to themselves. Teehee.” Women will, with a straight…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 07:05 PM
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The irony of defending the ideology that holds “all men” responsible for things like “rape culture” while doing pretzel logic to dismiss rampant misandry among feminist ideologues as “a few bad apples” is pure gold.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 06:58 PM
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Feminists: “All men are collectively responsible and suspect for the actions of the bad apples” Also Feminists: “The truly man hating feminists are just bad apples and don’t represent us. We have nothing to address or consider with them!” The kicker is that one of these things is an immutable biological trait and the other is a voluntarily subscribed to ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 06:56 PM
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This is some god tier mental gymnastics. Holy shit. That entire last apologetic was insane: “Yes she said men are trash and should be shunned, but she also said we should figure out a way to begrudgingly mate with them for the continuation of the species until we figure out another way.” The fuck is wrong with this world?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 06:49 PM
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I was going to mention this. Obama’s “My brother’s keeper” program was immediately met with shouts of “What about my SISTER’S keeper?!?!” Something as benign as a mentoring program was met with complaints by women’s groups and ZERO pushback from women who were supposedly outside of the “fringe”. Let that sink in. https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/gender-flaw-my-brothers-keeper/tnamp/ https://themsuspokesman.com/3102/national-news/obamas-brothers-keeper-initiative-leaves-out-sisters/ http…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 08:02 PM
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lol ask any man how well his sex life works out when he’s seen as “beneath” the woman he’s with in any way. This whole gaslight of women pretending they get wet over “stay at home dads” is hilariously transparent virtue signalling that does not match with any man’s lived reality. It’s the same old feminist trick - virtue signal about things like “liking emotionally vulnerable men” but then suddenly “losing the spark” when they see their man crying over a lost job.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 11:25 PM
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You’re right about the first part, but what in the ever loving fuck is Trump supposed to “do” about it? If anything, his election will fan the flames of this shit in arts and entertainment just like in 2016. Politically, I believe the woke identity politics shit is dead (thankfully) but culturally you’re going to see some doubling down on it. Especially by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 08:16 PM
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Because most women who are breadwinners for a household, literally married to men who aren’t the provider, tend to be feminists. Two words: Dead Bedroom
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 08:14 PM
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My last comment is this: Thank Christ this type of thinking is dead and buried once and for all after the last election. The one silver lining to the tragedy of Trump’s election is getting rid of the insane dogmatic and wicked annoying finger waggers from the public discourse once and for all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 03:15 AM
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Who tf talks like this anymore? This sounds like a combination of 90’s PC speech, 2000’s SJW’s and “Peak Woke” critical race theory gobbledygook. Friends don’t let friends major in gender studies with a minor in “social and racial justice”. Dear god, as a member of what is considered “the left”, this wing of it can’t get excused fast enough. PS: I will point out how zero women are pushing back on this. Their silence literally speaks volumes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 12:27 AM
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Man, I’ve been away from this sub for a long time, but it seems like it’s become even more rampant with bad faith trolling TwoX types. I’m especially amused to see that the only prolific posters I recognize are, but shock, the rabid “I choose the bear” feminists. Most of the rest have obviously moved on to places with more productive dialogue I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 12:20 AM
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Internalized misandry? Doesn’t exist because systemic misandry doesn’t exist. The absolute feminist brain rot one must have to say this without a shred of self awareness. And I will also point out, the usual women posters on PPD (even the “reasonable” ones) that know what an utter unhinged and shit take this is, are saying absolutely nothing as usual, because “team women”. If a man was in this thread saying half the utterly delusional and batshit stuff we just heard, you’d better believe the wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 12:15 AM
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I rarely see women call other women out on whatever crazy takes are, even when it is written by the resident psychos and when they do it is in the most softest way possible. I’d change rarely to never. It’s part of what I find crazy about the whole WaW zeitgeist right now. Men are told they need to “Do Better™ ” and “hold their friends accountable” when they make an “inappropriate joke” or whatever. I’ve never once seen a woman hold another woman “accountable” for any number of awful other women…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 02:48 AM
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I’m old now but I remember when I was about 24 just staring in the corporate world, there was this girl I had a major crush on and we used to flirt pretty regularly. One time we passed each other in the stairwell. I was coming back from lunch and she was going. We were teasing each other about something and I remember I had turned to talk to her for a bit. I was positioned kind of weird with my body half turned to face her as she was half a flight lower on the stairwell at a landing. I remember …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 10:02 PM
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Except men openly acknowledge this. They even have sayings for it: “Crazy in the head, crazy in the bed” etc. It’s women’s virtue signalling and duplicitous gaslighting about this that’s the problem. Hell, you just did it there by ascribing all manner of morally positive traits to your “bad boy” like “charismatic” and “confident” while relegating the “good looking” part to a footnote when it’s basically the only deciding factor. The fact that you try to claim these bad boys “love bomb” women as …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 04:25 AM
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LOL Why do you specify “on the left” as if “the right” is some bastion of open mindedness?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 01:59 AM
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I was specifically referring to her plan to give 20,000 in forgivable loans specifically to black men. https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2024/10/14/harris-forgivable-loans-legal-marijuana-trump-black-voters.html I get the idea and it’s not inherently a negative thing, but it illustrates a huge issue with democrats. They do NOT know how to talk to men, nor what men respond to. Men respond to “calls to action” like going to the moon, building infrastructure and fighting wars. The issue is that democrats ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 10:19 PM
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This brings up another important point. Identity politics on the left that has pandered to every identity. EXCEPT ONE. Not coincidentally, the left has quite literally turned “cishet white male” into an epithet. Now, that leaves a very simple opening on the right; to pander to that identity. Finally, we have scapegoating. When people in the left’s pet identity groups struggle, it’s the fault of “the patriarchy” or “white supremacy” or some sort of “phobic” men. Similarly, when people on the righ…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 09:49 PM
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The whole “men walk into a progressive space and they get yelled at by women” shit is strawman crap. You literally used a straw man while claiming the other argument was a straw man. Men don’t “walk into a progressive space and get yelled at” The entire messaging and rhetoric of the “progressive” movement is what does the “yelling” Man, how don’t my fellow people on the left see this? The left has created an entire Orwellian vocabulary to otherwise and demonize men for the past decade. It wasn’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 08:23 PM
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No man wants to date a woman with baby rabies and men themselves don’t get baby rabies. Women with baby rabies are uniquely insufferable because of all the utilitarian demands they make on men with virtually nothing offered in return except “I’ll give you a baby then dead bedroom you” The issue is that when dating begins on the pretext of some demand (beit money or a baby) it is generally going to be seen as unpleasant for the man. I’d imagine it is similar to an “arranged marriage” in which a p…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 08:16 PM
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You had the patience of a saint in that exchange my friend. You rightly pointed out that the mental framework this woman was using is, indeed, about to be what’s going to get tossed in the bin. Some would argue that this very tho g just happened in the US about a month ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 07:58 PM
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The left is way more out of touch with basic facts about human nature than the right is at the moment. Eventually, that becomes unsustainable. men (and everyone else) were being lied to by the left about how humans actually work. Exactly. This was a house of cards destined to collapse at some point. A pretty fiction can only stand for so long before it gives way to the basic reality. We’re seeing a similar storyline play out with “trans issues” now as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 07:51 PM
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Your reply made me think of something funny. As an old I remember the 80’s quite well. All the people lamenting what’s happening to “young men today” must have not lived through the 80’s where young men joining gangs was a nationwide epidemic. Like, we’ve seen this movie before. Society offers young men jack shit in terms of opportunity and positive messaging, said young men gravitate towards groups that give them a sense of community and purpose. This shit is not new. We need to stop thinking t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 07:47 PM
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As I keep saying, if society actually wanted to reduce the influence of red pill/right wing/whatever, it would stop proving these movements right. So simple. So true. It will continue so long as women choose to propagate things like “I choose the bear!” while at the same time choosing the dangerous (but hot) Chad over the safe (but plain) Billy. Observed harsh reality will always win over the professed comforting claims women make.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 07:42 PM
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Great reply. This also illustrates the utter tone deaf idiocy of Kamala’s campaign messaging: “Hey black men, here’s some free money” is not what black men, or any men want to hear. Men want empowering messages that appeals to their aspirational nature. Many on the left believe directing these types of messages specifically at men is “toxic” and should be avoided and, in fact, should only be directed towards women with “you go girl! Lean In” style ad campaigns. But, hey, at least men get the Gil…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 07:38 PM
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To be fair, LA is unique in all of the US in this regard. It’s a notoriously massive sprawling area of little enclaves of things to do. 1 bar in Hollywood? Ok. Let’s check out that bar in Melrose. (Drives for 1 hour) Try San Diego for a better example of a beach town with nice weather and hot women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 07:14 PM
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Wanting to lock someone down who has higher mate value as yourself will always come with a cost. THat is the same with 20yos or 40yos. No. No it isn’t the same. When you date a woman who isn’t sizing you up primarily as a provider of children and resources, I assure you the dating dynamic is much different. Have you dated many women in all three of these age groups? I have. And OP is spot on. He can just be with a woman in her 30s who has no children and is on his level and loves him. No further…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 07:06 PM
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No guy will want the product that women in this age range are selling. That product being henpecking, passive aggression and resentment in exchange for the “privilege” of … what exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 07:03 PM
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LOL. You hear that fellas? “You” are the problem if you’d like to have a fun date to see if you vibe and click with a woman rather than facing an interrogation from some angry, frustrated chadsick alpha widow who wants you to do circus tricks for her in exchange for her pleasant company. 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 07:01 PM
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I’ve prob been on prob around 80 dates in between girlfriends the last 9 years with women in their 30s. Not all were like this just most. I’ve been on 70 dates with women in their 20s and 40s, they are largely looking for a fun boyfriend and love. I’ve had very similar experiences with a similar sample size of dates and I’m dumbfounded how I never made this connection. Almost all of the “bad” dates I’ve had were women in their 30’s. They were invariably the most demanding, judgmental and impatie…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 06:58 PM
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It seems like women won’t wake up to what the left is doing to young men until we enter some Handmaids Tale timeline.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 06:50 PM
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Men are mean to each other, but don’t mean it. Women are *nice** to each other, but don’t mean it.*
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 06:34 PM
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This is also why women are compelled to portray ugly men as deeply flawed, anti-social monsters. So fucking true. Hence: Neckbeard, incel, basement dweller, have you tried taking a shower? Etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 06:33 PM
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Well, firstly, you are assuming those women are lying about thinking their friend is beautiful. You think someone is “objectively ugly”, but maybe it isn’t that objective? The problem with this is that MANY men (myself included) have experienced this phenomenon from both sides. Meaning, we’ve all had girlfriends that did that “you look stunning in that dress, Suzy!” shit when face to face with their friends, then later that night when Suzy was gone, speak to us about their real opinions. “I can’…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 06:30 PM
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Cool. Should we do miscegenation and civil rights next?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 02:47 AM
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Good post, but let’s not MeToo is not at play here. There are many ingredients in the the current shitty soup of men’s alienation and frustration. MeToo is one of those ingredients.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 01:32 AM
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Abortion “rights” weren’t taken away, the decision got given back to the states (where it belongs). Oh yes, when has “control over other adult’s fundamental rights to their body and should be left to the states” ever gone wrong? I’m guessing you support gay marriage being left “up to the states where it belongs” as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 01:29 AM
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See also: “Dude”, “Bro” and “Chief”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 01:26 AM
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Indeed. The feminists who glibly peddled this nonsense that men are as scary, vicious and dangerous as a carnivorous wild animal are about to see what happens when they actually get The Bear (Trump).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 01:23 AM
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I say again, since this seems difficult to grasp for some of you. Just because the democrats didn’t “run” on woke / identity politics / DEI in 2024, and in particular in the last 90 days, that doesn’t mean they didn’t cultivate this brand image for the last 8 years. Kamala herself is on record trumpeting this shit 4 years ago. She introduced herself using pronouns at a town hall, she openly defended trans surgeries for incarcerated illegal immigrants* and Biden himself openly declared “I will ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 09:06 PM
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Whoosh. How did you miss the entire point was that the movement and message of MeToo in particular and Feminism more broadly that at BEST does not disavow their fringe, and AT WORST caters to and encourages them? Don’t know what I mean? Peruse this thread (or any thread on Reddit or social media really) Look at the unhinged posts of women saying shit like “I can’t wait to record men with my phone men and get them fired!” and other similar nonsense. Shit like this has been happening for over a de…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 08:04 PM
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I volunteered for her campaign for months and almost quit when these ads started hitting. The ads aimed at working class straight white men looked like they were created by women and gay men to appeal to what they think would persuade a straight man.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 07:57 PM
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I also don’t see many women supporting toxic feminists who hate men? Everybody outside of the feminist bubble sees it. And the “good” feminists never police the “bad” ones when it comes to misandrist overreach. Never. And this is why they will continue to lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 07:54 PM
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Men created a cultural undercurrent of disrespect towards women. Men were already on the current path. MeToo is just the first of many reactionary movements that will go viral in our connected society. Oh cool. Maybe if a few more of these abjectly insane feminist movements like “YesAllMen” and “BelievrAllWomen” “go viral” you’ll reach the Handsmaid Tale stage of the pendulum.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 07:52 PM
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Why is it people on the left (which I am) are so disingenuous about this? It’s not what Kamala “run on” for the last 90 days of the campaign, it’s about the Democrat’s BRAND. You don’t erase the last 8 years of pandering to woke / trans / identity issues in 3 months while simultaneously actively alienating men. You just don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 07:45 PM
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I’m on the left, and I work in politics during election years. In 2026, I will be dedicating all of my free time to purging these fucking idiots from the party’s campaign staff and any identity / woke lunacy from the messaging. They are an example of the biggest unforced and obvious error in political history: Shit talk and alienate working class straight white men for 8 straight years then wonder why on earth we lost PA WI MI which is full of … checks notes … Uh oh. 🤦🏻‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 07:41 PM
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Trump’s rise was fueled by deep divides in American politics, voter suppression, and misinformation—not by Feminism’s tactics. Wait? You’re just going to ignore the wild shift of Gen Z men to the right and chalk it up to “misinformation”? As a Democrat, I implore you to explore this thing called reality. Please. It’s this type of myopic thinking that is losing us elections. Similarly, Roe v. Wade’s overturning was the result of a decades-long, coordinated effort by anti-abortion activists and co…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 07:29 PM
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I said not being harassed should be the default. Just like not kicking your dog should be the default. This “kick your dog” analogy actually made me realize a huge problem with MeToo. Once you get into the realm of “harassment”, it becomes so subjective that the message inevitably devolves into sheer nuttery. Why? Everybody agrees kicking your dog is bad. If you posted a video of doing so you would rightly get roasted by everybody and possibly get reported. Here’s the issue - there are people wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 07:05 PM
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Yah, that’s about right. That is most of the girls at the gyms I go to, but we’re talking about a certain “influencer” type, and they definitely show up at every gym in my area.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 08:55 PM
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Maybe the near underwear shorts are rare but that general outfit is commonly seen in California. <image> You’re right though. It’s like maybe 20% of the women that dress like this, but they stand out (by design) and you’ll never convince me they aren’t trying to draw eyes to themselves. Honestly, 90% of men just wear a t-shirt and basketball shorts and do far more strenuous workouts than most of the gym bunnies like this. Funny how they are able to get by without wearing skin tight spandex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 08:12 PM
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Bootie shorts and a sports bra top. You see these girls every day in the gyms I go to. Something like this: <image> It is the equivalent of a guy going to the gym shirtless and wearing only Speedo’s to show off his dick print. In b4 “she’s jUsT pRoUd oF hEr bOdY!1!1”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 07:54 PM
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Back in the day younger girls had a “crush” on Luke Skywalker; they’d talk about how “cute” he is, and put Tiger Bear posters of Mark Hammill on their wall. Sexually mature young women, however, wanted to fuck Han Solo; they’d talk about how “sexy” Harrison For is and touch themselves under the covers thinking about him. Be Han Solo.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 07:35 PM
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I think this is a good analogy actually. Because you are generally gentle and slow with a puppy. But when that puppy grows up the grown dog wants to “play” in a much rougher and aggressive manner.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 07:28 PM
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How this is debateable to you, is still a mystery to me. You must be new here. This bad faith shell game is a staple of this sub. Your points have been made and illustrated perfectly, and that is the problem. The only way your arguments can be “defeated” is to change the subject. In this case, changing the subject of discussion from good guys to “nice guys™”. That’s what’s happening all over this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 07:24 PM
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It’s absolutely wild the just world fallacy happening ITT. It’s like women can’t accept genuinely good, respectful and kind men ever having trouble getting laid or finding a girlfriend. I work in tech, I know at least 3 guys in their 30’s and 40’s guys who are genuinely kind, caring and respectful to women. They aren’t these “nice guy” bogeyman women ITT keep talking about. 2 of them haven’t had a girlfriend in over a decade and one is a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 07:16 PM
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Just world fallacy to deflect from women’s own behavior again. In this world: Men they aren’t attracted to are assholes, and nice / good men are just assholes pretending to be otherwise. So, you see, women have no choice but to choose assholes either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 07:09 PM
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Translation: “Yes, you may be starving, but did you know I got offered a free dinner at PF Chang’s, when I wanted filet mignon at Ruth’s Chris! Therefore, I am “emotionally” hungry too!” Stop it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 06:56 PM
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Think of the difference between getting invited to 3 parties in a week, but deciding to stay home and never getting invited to a single party ever. The two are not equivalent forms of solitude. It’s easy to put off socializing when you have 10 invites to a party at any given time. It’s easy to turn down dinner when you have a refrigerator full of food. It’s easy to forego sex when it comes so easy as to be trivial. And it’s easy be “lonely”’ when you know could (literally) snap your fingers and …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 11:31 AM
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I truly want you to get to a point where you figure out how to work towards that goal but along the way hit some of your own goals just for you. It really helps self esteem and confidence in yourself when you meet a goal you want to meet. LOL. Why are you speaking to me like I’m some desperate incel that you’re trying to “help” with advice? Is that where you think I’m coming from? That I’m in need of “advice” to cure my “loneliness” or something? I’ll spare you the explanations that will just co…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 07:18 AM
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That’s a lot of words to basically say “tough shit” “Just stop needing women’s companionship bro!” isn’t really compatible with, oh, all of known human history. But, talking about nuns and monks when discussing how fucked dating is for modern men is certainly apt.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 07:05 AM
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Women who want a particular type of masculinity have narrower options. Yes. When women apply these rigid standards, they reduce their options from like 1000 available men to “only” 300. Just as men who want a particular type of feminine have narrower options. Yes. For many of them, this demand reduces their options from like 3 available women to exactly 0. Are you seeing the issue yet?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 06:38 AM
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I mean there are various types of voters. There are “issues” voters and there are “vibes” voters. There are very few informed voters that suddenly looked at Trump’s insanity and said “yeah, that makes sense!” I don’t believe the issues voters decided this election. The swing was largely vibes driven. “The economy feels bad, it feels like Democrats shit on men, it feels true that they’re eating cats and dogs” etc
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 08:39 PM
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Men will work together and organize when they feel they are fighting a “common enemy”. The Democrats (or the “woke left” in particular) has largely become that common enemy. As James Carville put it, regardless of the reality, the perception is that the Democrats have become a party of “preachy females” scolding and lecturing men. Until this changes, things will only get worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 08:36 PM
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We just had the first Post Roe presidential election. How’d that work out?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 08:02 PM
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No. The vast majority of articles I’ve come across from women on the subject of male loneliness consist of one of three messages: It’s men’s own fault for [insert reason here]! Have you tried not being a mysoginist? You’re not entitled to a girlfriend! I’ve rarely seen assessments akin to, say, Scott Galloway recognition that women staunchly refuse to “date down” and how men need to be met where they are before they are lifted up followed by a discussion of systemic changes that can be made. It …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 08:00 PM
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I am a man who worked for Kamala’s campaign due to my disdain of Trump and my ability to recognize the grave threat he poses. However. If it was just about ANY other Republican running, I’d probably have voted for them which would have marked the first time in my long life I’ve voted for a Republican. The Democrats have A LOT of work to do, as evidenced in this thread by the inability for so many to understand what’s happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 07:49 PM
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I know he’s kind of “manosphere adjacent” but the best explanation I’ve heard about this comes from this exchange segment on “Modern Wisdom” with Chris Williamson. Why most therapists don’t understand male depression But the gist of it is: Men avoid therapy because therapy models are not designed around the male way of thinking. Therapy models that focus on helping men feel “heard” over restoring their sense of personal power Men are averse to feeling pitied and thus pursue solutions over feelin…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 07:56 PM
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How about starting from a place of “your feelings are valid” like you probably do for every one of the alphabet people?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 03:13 PM
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Do we tell women “it is what it is” when they collectively and individually complain about their myriad of grievances both real and imagined? No. We tell women things like “Your feelings are valid”, “Speak your truth” and “You are seen.” etc And that is the whole issue. Empathy and solution seeking seems to be reserved exclusively for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 09:02 PM
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This. Basically everything women say they want men to do comes with a 3 page EULA addendum. RP is basically the analysis of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 04:48 PM
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You’re applying female sexual imperatives and biological instincts to men. Don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 04:46 PM
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What you really mean here is “self respect and dignity as women define it.”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 04:45 PM
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lol @ the women in this thread trying to shoot this down or pull a “*so what?!?” These are the exact same women that love to pull the whole “mUh brAin nOt fUlLy deVelOpeD uNtiL 25!1!1” Suddenly women are completely certain of conclusions of the neurological data when it suits their argument but when the conclusions might not suit them they hand wave it away.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 04:43 PM
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I have no idea what point this word salad is supposed to make but … Women’s sexuality and attraction cues are simply amoral. That is the ultimate truth here. Saying “you get what you get” is both true and meaningless.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 01:16 AM
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I always will disagree with this take using a simple example: Take the original Star Wars (yes I was alive when it came out) Most women swooned over the roguish Han Solo and were pretty neutral on good boy Luke. I promise you, if you swapped their roles and had Mark Hammill playing Solo with the same attitude and Harrison Ford playing Luke the “good boy” women would have STILL swooned over the Han character. Now both were attractive guys, but Solo’s vibe, personality, frame (whatever you want to…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 08:12 PM
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”hey son if you want to attract a multitude of shallow women who will never fulfil your emotional needs you gotta do this!" is childish. And THIS right here is the lie that demonstrates OP’s point in real time. You see, this is the type of just world fallacy information that women so confidently give men. “Oh well, yes you can do X, but that will only get you BAD women!” Which is not only a just world fallacy but also a no true Scotsman fallacy at the same time. The truth is, being a “bad boy” w…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 08:02 PM
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Another neat trick is simply frame whatever it is as a positive. Example: Women are emotional and gossip about people. will be met with accusations of misogyny. Versus Women are emotionally intelligent and take an active interest in the lives of others will be met with enthusiastic agreement.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 06:07 PM
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It’s both. They take things personally “I’m not a bad person for saying men are worse than bears!” Then they externalize it: “Men should stop being worse than bears, then we wouldn’t have to say this!” You see this a lot with “So yes, many women do (insert shitty thing) to men; but it’s because of patriarchy (men’s fault)”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 06:03 PM
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Wrong. Women’s “rants” are less explosive because they are part of every day mainstream discourse and accepted thought
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 06:00 PM
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You literally just used the “this is what women have faced for years” bullet point. 😂 Self awareness and PPD misandrists. Name a worse combination.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 05:59 PM
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Yeah, no shit looks are important. Is this news? So be a good looking older man.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 07:56 AM
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What part of “men are made” don’t you understand? Your contention that SMV can’t go up after college is laughable on its face. Also, Women all have their own idiosyncratic niches which includes jocks, musicians, stoners, thugs, bikers, preppies and, yes, some like older guys. I really don’t care that YOU, random Reddit stranger #97374827 don’t believe it, I’ve lived it. And that’s good enough for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 05:09 AM
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Yes, and will tell any man that isn’t an exception to adjust his expectations accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 02:32 AM
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I’ll make this easy for you: In normal conversation, women will deny these things when they feel they will make them look shallow. In TikTok clout chasing, women will admit to this and any number of things in the name of “go girl!” And “yas kween” sisterhood dunking on men. Women telling the truth about just about anything when it comes to their sexuality and attraction cues ALL depends on the context.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 02:12 AM
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Dude I don’t give a fuck how you phrase it. The point is women have idiosyncratic and ridiculous “turn offs” / “icks” whatever you want to call it and men should be aware of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 02:10 AM
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Oh yes it’s just quirky “TeeHee” except we all know women experience these things on dates and ghost as a result.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 01:37 AM
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Proving the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 01:36 AM
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Women will admit it in certain context but not others. Society generally paints women as the more moral, ethical and altruistic sex when it comes to attraction. Especially to young men. The entire “just be yourself and wait for somebody compatible to come along” only works for women. Men don’t get that luxury.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 01:36 AM
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Nope. “Ick” is a new phenomenon by which women try to normalize and justify utterly ridiculous and shallow reactions. If seeing a man accidentally trip or take a nap induces an “ick” and you feel comfortable bragging about that, something is very wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 01:33 AM
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No I don’t think that. People that sabotage young men rarely do so out of malice, but rather as a deluded idea that they are creating “good boys” that “always respect women” which generally means teaching them some variant of “women are wonderful” I’m old enough to have seen this play out multiple times with my liberal friends (and I’m liberal as well btw)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 01:32 AM
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I just checked your flair. It all makes complete sense now. My bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 11:58 PM
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Who the hell said it was going to stop it from happening? The important thing is to understand that women have tons of shit like this (that they’ll deny) that are deal breakers and act accordingly rather than Bloops that will say shit like “be yourself”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 11:57 PM
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You seem to have me confused with a black piller who thinks unconventional looking guys can’t get laid via game and appealing to niche demographics. Try somebody who makes that claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 11:48 PM
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Funny, I know a whole lot of “friendly and personable” men who haven’t had sex in years. It’s almost like there’s more to it than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 11:45 PM
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lol another fail. For example, even the most hardcore RP ideologue will freely admit that BP works for: Chads Women That doesn’t make BP the right strategy for literally anybody else.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 10:11 PM
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This is for you: 🍪 But unfortunately, I never said I’m “bitter at women” or “bitter about dating”, I’m bitter about the lies, gaslighting and institutional misandry being inflicted on young men who are just trying to figure things out. I myself am not a young man and already figured my shit out. But watching assholes try to sabotage young men while their suicides / loneliness / despondency skyrockets should make anybody with a shred of empathy bitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 10:09 PM
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Why TF so people think RP is some religious dogma that people will be discussing in normal conversation? That’s not how it works. RP by any other name is still RP. You’re telling me you don’t know guys who “have game”?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 10:05 PM
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If you’re happy with the results from effectively doing nothing but “being yourself” (which is what BP ultimately advises) then it’s no problem. Why do you have a problem when young men trying an alternative to that when it doesn’t work? That is the real question.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 10:04 PM
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lol you’re 19 so I’ll cut you some slack on claiming that a 30 Elizabeth Hurley was hitting “the wall” But then claiming the woman pictured is somehow more attractive than her because she was “younger” completely lost you what little credibility you had. 😂 For bonus points Google “Arnold Cleaning Lady” to see how this argument is even dumber than you thought. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 10:00 PM
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Wrong. There are subtle but clear distinctions with some of this newer terminology. “Ick” has a built in connotation that it’s a subtle and petty and usually idiosyncratic thing like a man wearing a yellow raincoat or sneezing like a girl. Frame is like composure but the connotation is that it’s in the context of flirting in the face of a “shit test” (another internal term) In any case, the existence of colloquial / shorthand is part of literally every discipline of study and subculture. Why wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 09:57 PM
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Bloops like the ones ITT are a lot like ideological political followers. They are simply being reflexive. It’s like if you ask a Trump supporter “do you think health insurers should be able to deny your claims based on pre-existing conditions” they will say NO, but if you ask them “do you think Obamacare has good elements” they will say “Absolutely not! Get rid of all of it!” When you ask them: Do you like RP, they say “Hell no! RP is bad! It doesn’t work!” But then when you go point by point wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 09:48 PM
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“Seen with your own eyes” = read posts on a debate sub. Do you not see the flaw in your thought process here?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 09:41 PM
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I am bitter because I see bloops and feminists lying to young men, and I happen to have empathy for those men. People following blue pill fantasies generally fall into black pill nihilism when it doesn’t work for them. Some of those men become dangerous Clearly others feel like any man struggling in dating, romance and sex simply “deserve” it. If you don’t see how the modern west is absolutely shitting on men and especially heterosexual male sexuality, you are fucking blind at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 09:40 PM
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lol you mean like the now deleted thread that proved once and for all how easy it is for an average woman to have decent options served up to her on a platter in less than one day on OLD and the subsequent women and bloops calling those options “ugly” or moving the goalpost and otherwise denying the concrete findings? You mean like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 09:36 PM
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Nope. Not how it works. Read up on The Coolidge Effect for one. A woman being “hot” does not make her immune from a man becoming sexually bored of her. Hugh Grant and Arnold Schwarzenegger cheated on their attractive celebrity wives with hood rats and prostitutes. Men are biologically programmed to be polygynous their mating to maximize genetic diversity. It’s the reason historically warlords and kings kept harems but queens did not.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 09:31 PM
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Oh, I see, you’re using the typical “All RP does is make men bitch online” straw man that I’ve seen time and time again. There’s a couple of other posters that make this same fallacious argument constantly. The problem is, that’s an unfalsifiable claim. All I can tell you is that before RP, I struggled with dating and it was a source is stress and consternation for me. After RP, I was able to date and have sex with consistency. Of course, RP created other issues (just becoming jaded with how it …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 09:24 PM
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Wrong. Male sexuality prioritizes variety while female sexuality prioritizes single mate quality. Men want as much pussy as they can get at all times. Women simply want the best one dick they can get at any given time. The rest is social window dressing. Take it up with god / nature / the universe if you don’t like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 08:55 PM
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If someone is looking for a relationship they will find it. Realistically, nobody is single for extended periods of time wWhaT? Saying something like “If somebody is looking for a relationship they will find it” is a peak Woman Moment 💁🏼‍♀️ The level of delusion and solipsism some women are capable still surprises me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 08:51 PM
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You can’t always “quantify” things like how to be good in job interviews, making friends or in sales jobs either. So? You don’t just stop trying to figure out what works and what doesn’t. The “Chad” thing doesn’t work however you’re implying. It’s simply a shorthand way of referring to the small minority of men who can effortlessly attract women with their looks alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 08:47 PM
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That’s a good thing. Those young men can see the disagreements and debates and decide which side makes more sense to them based on their lives and observed reality. In my experience, RP wins versus BP about 70-80% of the time in these debates (but not 100%)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 07:36 PM
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Oh I know that women don’t see sex as inherently valuable because it comes so easy to them. Anything that comes easy to a person is generally seen as no big deal. It’s why women have such a hard time understanding male dating difficulties. Up until very recently it was super common for women to think men could just “go out and get sex” just as easily as women can. Bottom line: Women seeing sex as easy doesn’t change the fact that men see it as the most valuable asset a woman can give a man. And,…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 07:23 PM
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Making sure that young men have a realistic picture of the modern landscape of dating, relationship and sex and act accordingly. I do not have any expectation that women will engage in any self critical reflection of their behavior, that’s for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 07:18 PM
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Thanks for being honest. This is a hilarious take that women have a lot: “Older men can’t date younger women but they can *fuck** them!*” Ok. Ok that’s cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 06:50 PM
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No. Sport fucking a bunch of out of your league men has different consequences for women. Because women tend to equate the SMV of the men they are able to fuck with the men that will commit to them. You see this all the time. Let me ask you this: if a fat woman is banging a bunch of ripped, sexy athletes, do you honestly believe the perception of her own relationship value won’t be skewed?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 06:49 PM
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It says that people chasing “highs” via self medicating behavior like the continuous pursuit of exciting sex with Chads are engaging in a fool’s errand. When women do this, they are simultaneously skewing their own perception of what they “deserve” and what they feel constitutes “settling”. It’s the exact same phenomenon with “thrill seekers” or all kinds. Women fucking Chads are not only on the treadmill, they are also internalizing distorted views of what they “deserve” You see this constantly…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 06:46 PM
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedonic_treadmill
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 06:01 PM
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Women: ”zOMGee literally no younger women want to date some gross older man! Stop bothering us!” source: I dated a bunch of older men when I was younger and decided I didn’t like it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 05:59 PM
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The thing is, women do the same thing for ANY “type” of guy they’ve dated and decided sucks. “Don’t date musicians!” “Lawyers are the worst!” “Scorpios, am I right?!?!” It’s all horse shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 05:52 PM
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🏳️‍🌈LOVE IS LOVE!!!🏳️‍🌈 unless it’s an older man and a younger woman with a greater then 10 year age difference
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 05:45 PM
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Out of my past 5 relationships, 4 have been women between 10-15 and in one case even 20 years younger. There’s my “data”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 05:40 PM
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👆“Woman science”💅
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 05:33 PM
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I don't date men who watch porn 😂 That you know of. It’s so cute when women think they found some guy that is magically part of the 10% that “doesn’t view porn” and then they expect to be taken seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 05:31 PM
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I do find older men attractive and always did, I just would not date them. But would you fuck them?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 05:28 PM
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No. Men are made, women are born. The amount of time it takes to “make” a man is extremely variable. The notion that an older attractive man was a previously somehow a younger more attractive boy is dumb. Men aren’t valued primarily for their “youthful good looks” like women are. Some men look better with a beard, some look sexy in a suit, some even look better with a more weathered masculine, leaner face. There are many men who don’t “grow” into their masculinity / style / confidence / self ass…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 05:25 PM
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That's because the women who've had a huge string of hookups have burned out their dopamine receptors by the time it's the next guy's turn (in other words it doesn't feel fun or exciting for them anymore). What’s hilarious is all the women pushing back on this are the same ones to throw around words like “pornsick” Women: ”Porn fries men’s brains because they become accustomed to easily having their every sexual whim satiated on demand by unrealistically hot women!” Also Women: “Having depraved …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 05:17 PM
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Novelty. That’s how.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 05:11 PM
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Yes of course because you interpret it in the most charitable way possible for women. Big shocker. Here’s an example: “Women are happier than ever being single! They are thriving now that they’ve thrown off the shackles of patriarchal gender roles!” Here’s a graph showing their skyrocketing levels of anxiety and depression and their being medicated for it far exceeding men on either. “Women are just seeking treatment for their issues unlike men! TeeHee 💅” Basically evidence that women are not ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 01:59 AM
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Sort of … https://www.aclu.org/bio/amber-heard
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 01:33 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 01:27 AM
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This is a “heads I win, tails you lose” argument. Try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 01:26 AM
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Isn’t she STILL then ACLU “ambassador for domestic violence issues”? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 10:26 PM
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You know the answer. It is baffling how few women can’t understand the difference between mainstream acceptable thought and ideas expressed in fringe online ghettos. It’s the telltale sign of the terminally online when they saying things like “on here they say” or “I saw on a redpill sub men saying…”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 10:25 PM
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You are comparing a fringe of the manosphere with the entirety of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 10:23 PM
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Is this your only take? “Sad”? This is some Trump level debating skill.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 06:41 PM
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I've found that women prefer to have sex with emotionally intelligent men who treat them with respect. Lol you’ve found wrong. Women “prefer” to fuck the hottest, sexiest guy available to them. They aren’t asking about Chad’s hopes, dreams and fears before they blow him in the club bathroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 05:36 PM
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For men it is a flex because it is not easy or common. For women it is not a flex because it requires nothing but lying down on a bed. Whether you like it or not, “fuck boy” is it an insult and never will be to a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 05:34 PM
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Watch this video of the YouTuber “Sneako” explaining his experience watching his girl get fucked in front of him and the men’s reactions to the story if you really want to see a man try to explain where this leads, and 99.9% of men’s reasons for being repulsed by this idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 05:31 PM
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Women aren’t “part of the problem” women are by far the biggest arbiters of male sexual behavior by virtue of their selection criteria. If women suddenly decided they prefer to fuck men who can do handstands the streets would be filled with men walking on their hands tomorrow.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 05:26 PM
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Unlike women, a man getting a high n count (that you don’t pay for) generally takes time, knowledge, skill and effort. The one exception is if you’re a natural “chad” or celebrity which is a minuscule part of the population. I believe this is where your confusion comes from. Also, both sexes average lifetime n count is in the 4-7 range so …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 05:11 PM
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Once again, I ask… Even if everything you say were true, western women do the exact same thing and are fatter and bitchier while doing so.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 04:53 PM
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100% And western white women do the exact same thing, they just don’t say it out loud.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 07:17 AM
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Women aren't miserable being single like men. Uh huh … <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 07:15 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 07:08 AM
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What does it say about these western women telling men they are going to get used for their money / a green card when dating foreign women when men would rather travel half way across the world than date them?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 07:04 AM
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First, women’s mental health statistics don’t match this take. Also, women being “fine without men” very often just mean they fuck some Chad a couple of times a month when the urge strikes. That’s women’s version of “single” Finally, like with your attempt at a gotcha with the “foreign women are just users!” meme… What’s hilarious is that western women are worse users whole also being bitchy and fat. So, is that some kind of dunk?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 07:02 AM
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most women fundamentally see men as action figures and accessories for social mobility, not as romantic figures. That's why so many marriages become dead bedrooms after no more than ten years: she wants to upgrade her accessories but won't cheat or divorce so her libido just turns off. Jesus this is depressing. Because it’s absolutely true.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 06:58 AM
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lol wtf the guy engages as civilly as possible and gets … this. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 06:46 AM
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Do you see how modern western society tends to expect men to answer for the collective “men” / call each other out / fight for women, whereas women who act in shitty ways are seen as individuals and men’s problems are their own?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 06:44 AM
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lol I’ve heard women straight up say they want a “blue eyed baby” or they don’t want to date a short man because they want their kid to be tall. But, of course on PPD, no woman would ever even think such a thing! In reality, women are some of the biggest eugenicists on earth with how they fully rule out certain races and immutable physical traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 06:42 AM
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The answer is that women simply must see themselves as the heroic survivor / “victim” / underdog in whatever their internal narrative is. It’s also because despite women claiming constantly to not be a “hive mind”, more often than not they consider “an attack on one an attack on all” Kind of like… you know, a bee hive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 06:39 AM
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Women should ask men who stalk, harass and sexually assault why they do it instead of laying it at the feet of “toxic masculinity” and “patriarchy” … but here we are.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 06:38 AM
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If what you are saying is true, why when a man says “women evade accountability”, does just about women feel the need to chime in about how it’s a toxic generalization? Does that mean they are “telling on themselves” because they are engaging? After all, aren’t they just “missing the nuance” that it doesn’t apply to them specifically?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 06:36 AM
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Absolutely. Apparently every man should just his default status as a “paypig”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 02:16 AM
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None of this is the point. The point is two assholes acted like trash but the woman is praised loudly as a hero.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 02:15 AM
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So you just shrug and walk away when somebody rips you off?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 02:15 AM
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What? So you will just go to Starbucks and have them charge you double and walk away because “I don’t want to cause trouble”? Or do you ask them to correct the issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 02:12 AM
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So her ripping him off, threatening to throw the drinks on him first, then hitting his car with a hammer doesn’t enter your equation at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 02:11 AM
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This is what arguing with women is like: “Well, He started it!” He started it is not an excuse to attack a car with a hammer. “ “I never said he brought it on!”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 01:35 AM
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Started it by asking to not be ripped off. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 01:31 AM
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lol what? By your reasoning if he got out and beat her unconscious it’s just that “she started shit she couldn’t finish”?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 01:27 AM
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Exactly. My take isn’t to defend the guy but to point out how many women are gleeful about the ratchet ass coffee stripper going ape shit and threatening him in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 01:26 AM
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if some hustlers and strippers robbed a rich banker or some shit id think thats fucking hilarious Well of course you would. It’s the same mentality that makes women celebrate Cardi B drugging and robbing men and laugh at guys getting their dicks cut off. The empathy gender strikes again.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 01:25 AM
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Except those circumstances are almost always a woman instigated bodily violence on a man. There are a few videos where some woman gets all tough and slaps a man and is slapped into next week. Those videos are filled women women and white nights talking about how “unnecessary” it was and how “he should be arrested” and everybody’s favorite “never put your hands on a woman!”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 01:23 AM
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You are supposed to demand they make it right.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 01:21 AM
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Exactly. So many people ITT ignoring this shit. Like A stripper serving coffee trying to steal money as part of her hustle? NEVER!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 01:21 AM
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“Asking for your money back after being charged for tap water” = “quite aggressive”?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 01:20 AM
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This is the only level headed take here, and if the law gets involved the one that would be legally correct. The guy is an absolute douche, but this woman is absolutely the type that revels in drama and conflict.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 01:19 AM
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I like the part where you ignore every shitty escalation this cunty hustler engaged in before it got out of hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 01:17 AM
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Very edgy. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 01:17 AM
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The guy is a douche full stop. You honestly think “class and dignity” are in this woman’s vocabulary? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 01:16 AM
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You know hustlers / strippers etc have ripped off men time and time again right? I guess they should just skulk away because … woman right. Always.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 12:41 AM
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Stripper steals guy’s wallet “What was he doing in the strip club in the first place?!?!”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 12:39 AM
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Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 12:38 AM
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For attacking her car with a hammer? I think not.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 12:24 AM
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lol yet he threw that very coffee AT A WINDOW. So, let me get this straight, threatening to throw liquid on a person’s body not a crime. Throwing liquid at a window, worthy of attack with a hammer.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 12:23 AM
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Fair. No disagreement here. The issue is the woman is being universally celebrated by … surprise surprise … other women. Then we hear about how women don’t have an in group bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 12:15 AM
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Ah yes. Pulling guns on customers for being “rude” Also, rainbow flag on your avatar.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 12:10 AM
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It’s the Cardi B / Amber Heard defense. Expect to hear about her “trauma” and how she did what she did to “survive”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 12:09 AM
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Exactly. This is exactly the kind of woman to pull a few “Cardi B’s”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 12:08 AM
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“We choose to attack the scary bear with a hammer as he walks away!”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 11:46 PM
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To ask for your money bank after the drive thru attendant refused to talk to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 11:28 PM
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No I’m asking if, based on style of dress and behavior the guy is a douchebag? Is this truly a difficult question to answer or are you just acting obtuse because you don’t want to answer?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 11:12 PM
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Does this guy not look like a douchebag to you? Please answer honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 09:14 PM
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The issue is she is being praised by women who think this kind of behavior is justified because “we face patriarchy” or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 09:13 PM
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I agree. The minute she threatened to throw the drinks on him, was the point of criminal conduct.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 09:12 PM
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So in your mind, a person getting out of their own car amounts to a threat?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 09:12 PM
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Thank you. This is my take too. I think my broader point is the near universal praise and hero worship this woman is getting.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 09:10 PM
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So, getting out of the car: escalation. Threatening to throw drinks: NOT escalation Throwing drinks on closed window: escalation Attacking car as it leaves with hammer: NOT escalation
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 09:09 PM
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You’re right. I retract my statement. He got out before he did this; but he likely knew she was going to be combative about it, which she was. My issue isn’t with saying he’s an asshole my issue is with the praise for the woman who is equally an asshole. People acting like the hammer attack is justified. It’s insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 09:08 PM
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Trying to return a coffee after thinking you’re overcharged now warrants assault. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 09:06 PM
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So you would honestly defend a male service worker saying to a woman “do you want me to throw these drinks on you?” for her getting out of the car and trying to return the drinks? This is your contention?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 09:05 PM
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lol have you ever been to a drive through? The drive through ledge is well higher than the window, they hand it DOWN to you. If you need to hand something back (and the drive through is refusing) getting out and placing them on the ledge seems like the most sensical way of doing this. People trying to paint this as a power move or a “threat” when it was likely he just wanted to expedite the return of his money.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 09:03 PM
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lol what? Did you miss the bullet point in bold: man throws drinks at closed window? I like how you ignore where she threatened the assault first in response to him asking for his money back.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 09:01 PM
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The minute a man said to a female customer “do you want me to throw these drinks on you?” I find it impossible to believe women would shrug and be like “well, she shouldn’t have gotten out of the car!” Everybody knows this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 09:00 PM
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Yes you are. If this was some a woman getting out of the car demanding her money back and the guy said “do you want me to throw these drinks on you” that would be the end of it. Women would claim “the worker threatened assault!”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 08:58 PM
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Because of her voice, her tattoos and her attitude. What does ratchet mean to YOU? As much as that guy reeks of some Tate acolyte douchebag, she reeks of the kind of woman who would steal a man’s watch while he slept because “he can afford it”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 08:57 PM
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Reverse the genders. Still feel the same? You’ll probably say yes out of convenience for your current argument, but no man in his right mind believes this. He got out of his car to replace the drinks and ask for his money back. But now I guess a man getting out of the car warrants threats of physical assaults and drink throwing because … the bear and all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 08:56 PM
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Reverse the genders. Would you still feel the same way? woman exits car and demands money back man refuses and threatens to throw drinks on her woman throws drinks at closed window man attacks woman’s car with hammer as she drives away I think we know you wouldn’t feel the same way in that case.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 08:53 PM
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IME women are “just as horny” in the sense that once that horniness is “activated” (and laser focused on a specific guy) they will be DTF just as much as the specific guy. The issue is that in day to day life, women have virtually ZERO spontaneous desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 07:50 PM
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Women vote for male behavior with their pussies. If women fucked men who could do hand stands, the streets would be full of motherfuckers walking on their hands tomorrow.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 07:00 PM
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Ok, honestly this makes is clear now. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 12:24 AM
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Ok. Now, what is the purpose of the “discussion” flair exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 12:16 AM
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… aaand GridRexx has now removed this thread for the same reason. Utterly pathetic. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 12:15 AM
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I’m sorry, what does that even mean? I’m not trying to be obtuse / pedantic, I sincerely want to understand this as I had a thread removed for similar reasons a few weeks ago. I would actually say my thread was more clear cut as I took a clear position on the data in my post, but this post was extremely even handed and even gracious towards the woman who requested the experiment be conducted. So it sounds like the rules are: Post data or study Take NO position on data or study Engage in comments…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 12:12 AM
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I will say this: I never saw you make the claim that online dating is “harder” for women, and won’t claim that you did.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 12:08 AM
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lol wait, so your contention is that if a woman posts, say, statistics from the CDC about sexual assault or domestic violence, and some RP posters start pushing back on the validity of the statistics while the women defend the data, merely arguing about the meaning of the data, causes the “discussion” thread to become a “debate” and is now a “circlejerk” due to a large amount of women speaking in support of the data? 😂 That is some Hamster level mental gymnastics my man.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 12:06 AM
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Those blatantly misandrist takes don’t get banned, removed or even warned against.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 11:58 PM
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I recognize your user name. I prefer if you don’t engage me. I thought you’d feel that way. It’s mutual. I’d prefer not to get baited and banned. You have a history of misrepresenting what’s been said and the full contexts. Others have disagreed, as you well know. I can’t tell if it’s because you’re trolling for the male imperative agenda or if it’s because you genuinely don’t grok. It’s because I know there are young men here that come looking for answers and see a lot women gleefully shitting …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 11:57 PM
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Like women high fiving each other with sexist memes about men? Like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 11:52 PM
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Dude, it was a “discussion” of the results of the experiment, not a “debate” The fact that it later included people “debating” the results doesn’t make the original post inaccurate. Come on man. Be real here.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 11:49 PM
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I have decided to avoid engaging with mods who have shown consistent inability to be fair or impartial, but I will only say this: The fact that you would ask “who here seriously claimed that dating isn’t easier for women?” when the entire genesis of the post I’m referring to was instigated by precisely such a challenge by a woman is telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 11:44 PM
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lol see and mfers here gaslighting me about “we explained it!” JFC
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 09:54 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 09:54 PM
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Ok you’ve gone from gaslighting to blatantly lying. Nothing more to be gained from this exchange.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 09:41 PM
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most people don't deny that it's easier initially in dating women. “Most” bluepillers absolutely make this contention. Stop gaslighting.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 09:39 PM
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“Any sane person” on PPD would agree that average women have an easy time finding 7 perfectly normal, employed, looks matched and datable men in a matter of hours? Does that include the “we choose the bear” women? We both know that’s absolute nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 09:37 PM
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Hamsterism. Tons of women posting about some “problematic” behavior from men followed by a flood of “bearpilled” women clamjerking each other to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 09:34 PM
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It doesn’t bother you that men getting shouted down and seeing posts that confirm obvious truths removed from subs like this contributes to the sense of men having no acceptable / neutral place to discuss stuff like this? You think it’s a good thing to relegate young men to manosphere ghettos?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 09:33 PM
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It was a discussion on the results of an experiment that was borne from a debate thread. That is completely silly to retroactively decide it’s a “circlejerk” merely because people express an opinion on the subject being discussed. At the very least it was borderline and should have been allowed due to the importance and relevance. But it wasn’t. An experiment allowing women to circle jerk about how men are “worse than bears” though? Yeah. That’s gonna stay up and we all know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 09:32 PM
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I’ll ask again, why do you think the “why we choose the bear” threads stay up?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 09:29 PM
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https://archive.is/v0Rf1
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 09:28 PM
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No contentless rhetoric. Also, I noticed some total one-note anti RP crusader “male feminist” types were consciously missing from that thread who were just the types to agree with the “women are inundated with ugly guys and dick pics online” sentiment. I wonder why.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 09:28 PM
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Award worthy. Thank you. Save this link; you’ll no doubt need it in future PPD discussions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 09:25 PM
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When I looked, the explanation wasn’t there. It is now.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 09:24 PM
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And what are the countless “We Choose The Bear” posts and comments if not “woe is me” and “men suck”? Yet, I don’t recall seeing any mods having issues with those threads. Basically, if something BP is disproven by RP in black and white; it gets taken down because it’s “woe is me” “circlejerk”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 09:23 PM
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“Mods Have Lives” The same mods that were actively participating in that very thread?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 09:17 PM
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Archived Here
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 09:12 PM
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This “incorrect flair” is utter nonsense. Mods use “circlejerk” as a “catch all” to remove whatever they want when a thread takes a turn they don’t like. How many “we choose the bear” circle jerks are deemed A-OK?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 09:12 PM
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Did you report the challenge when it happened? The person that instigated the challenge should face a ban or at least a warning right? Also, would you have a problem with her challenge if it “proved” her contention (that men on OLD are all creepy sex pests?) I think not.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 09:10 PM
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Tons of women were disagreeing and disputing the results (saying the men were ugly, saying they weren’t serious, saying OP led them on, etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 09:09 PM
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How does it take 2 days and 1000+ posts for the mods to determine this before removing the post? Also, you’re a mod, I’ll ask you this - if this post revealed the men in question were sending “creepy” messages and the result was a bunch of women discussing how much they can relate to the experience and it’s why they “choose the bear” would it have been removed? I think we all know the answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 09:08 PM
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No. That was not the reason given for the removal.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 09:05 PM
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Funny how the mods let Windmill set up the challenge though huh? Let me ask you, if the results were a bunch of guys sending her sexual / harassing messages and Windmill posted those results in the same way, do you honestly think the post would be removed? They also didn’t make this claim in the removal notice. The removal notice is about it being a “circle jerk” which on PPD means, “too many people agree with the conclusion” … which … no shit. The conclusion is irrefutable. Think really hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 09:03 PM
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lol “when people point out evidence disproves a bluepill contention, we will report it as a circlejerk” I swear this sub doesn’t even try to hide it anymore. But yea, all you PPD crusaders and mods who demanded this post be taken down… Great job! You just demonstrated why we need RP in real time. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 09:02 PM
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Nope. Not on this one. If I view it, the body of the post is simply gone and there is no explanation about why it was removed. EDIT: Yep, just as I thought. It was removed as a “circle jerk” by the mods … aka the most subjective technicality they could come up with. After TWO DAYS 😂 Pathetic. Just pathetic. I implore the OP to repost this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 08:53 PM
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Average men need to make a friend of rejection (like Colonel Kurtz in Apocalypse Now) or he’ll have a good chance of dying a virgin. Modern society, I’m afraid, is not preparing young men or women to handle rejection, but this hurts men’s dating prospects far more than women’s for obvious reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 05:20 PM
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It’s fucking insane. They had their entire argument summarily destroyed, and they’re right back to “we both have it just as hard in different ways!” This sub has finally convinced me that women are physically incapable of ever admitting that men have it harder in any aspect of life. How somebody can sit there and spin MORE choice and MORE opportunities as a negative is absolutely baffling.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 06:34 AM
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lol horse shit. Women will split the check, then ghost for other made up reasons. That’s the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 03:56 AM
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Totally. No hate. I can see how it’s hot and fun. I mean, I really enjoy strip clubs on Halloween lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 03:37 AM
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I totally appreciate your suggestions and don’t mean to sound dismissive. In fact, I definitely will remain open minded to all of what you’re talking about. Anything outside of vanilla Sex / Sexuality / Turn ons / Offs is absolutely one of those things that is very idiosyncratic across individuals regardless of sex, so it’s important to stay open minded while also recognizing what works on an individual level.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 03:33 AM
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I read that years ago. It was recommended a lot in the PUA days. It came off as kind of corny tbh. I have no problem being forceful, dominant, etc. I just personally find the whole “dress up like a cheerleader” thing overwrought, forced and somewhat cringey. That’s just me, I’m not claiming “it IS corny” or anything like that, it just activates my cringe. Anyway, i get what you’re saying - the bottom line is to be proactive in keeping things fun, hot and exciting and I intend to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 03:26 AM
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Even the cheating women generally find ONE dick they want to jump on (and often branch swing to), it’s completely different than men who want to fuck basically every hot legal age woman they see. These things are not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 03:23 AM
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Yah I totally appreciate what you’re saying, but role play that involves elaborate dressing up just makes me feel a little … I dunno cringe. It feels overwrought and rehearsed. It’s like the “poly” community, I just find it viscerally silly to see certain people clad in leather and on leashes to seem laugh inducing. I have a feeling the “hijab” thing would be similar. I’ve definitely gone down the rough / degrading / primal stuff and that is hot; but eventually that loses its excitement too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 02:41 AM
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Yes that’s true. It’s also true that some men like getting pegged. Do we need to bring that up every time women say something like “men just want to use women as a fleshlight”? Women pursuing sexual variety are outliers by definition and, while it’s a given that they exist, they do not exist in such meaningful numbers to negate the comment “women do not pursue sexual variety for its own sake” There are countless reasons for this many of which are pointed out by women on this very sub time and ag…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 10:55 PM
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Great points and, in all honesty, this experiment and women’s response to it makes me question just about every “lived experience” women talk about now. It shows just how blind they are to not only their own privilege, but also how unconsciously they engage in apex fallacy and collective guilt.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 10:34 PM
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I mean, it’s hard to know in those specific cases, but Jesus, do you really need a study to show you that high status / celebrity men tend to seek out new pussy almost pathologically? Come on man.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 10:20 PM
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Great advice again. I should be clear, neither of us are inexperienced. We are both probably older than 90% or this sub. She can be a ho and is not prudish at all about the things she likes, but has pretty hard limits about what she likes. Like, no anal (I’m not even into that) and no FFM threesomes (which I’m very much into) Basically everything else is on the table. Sex does not feel inhibited with her at all, and we’ve watched porn together. Personally, I think my sticking point is just my in…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 10:18 PM
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“Proof” that men tend to get sexually bored of the same partner after a period of time and crave variety often at great personal expense? I dunno... Hugh Grant, Bill Clinton and Arnold Schwarzenegger come to mind and almost the entire male gay community? It's also the entire basis of this meme: <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 10:05 PM
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This is good advice. Thanks. I think I have my own issues with validation seeking that I am still sorting out as well, and I acknowledge that. I think my gf has some sex negativity and her own validation / insecurity issues as well. Hopefully those get figured out and we evolve in compatible directions.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 09:55 PM
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Same. It helps to know the struggle isn’t “just you” Like I said, I don’t have the answers, but have some coping strategies and practices I do to come back to reality when “the devil starts talking” about how great it would be to be out there fucking a bunch of new women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 09:47 PM
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Yah it’s a terrible cycle and one that I can’t say I’ve completely broken, but I’ve at least reached the ability to really remember how “the grass is NOT greener” chasing, dating and fucking women as a second job. Maybe if I was a Chad who could just passively do this with zero effort, i’d feel different, but even then, the prospect of having to manage jealous / crazy / dangerous women is there. I spent 2 years doing what you described and experiencing that cycle. I found a woman who was LTR mat…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 09:30 PM
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Yah this is well known as The Coolidge Effect or The Seven Year Itch and many other expressions. It’s a real struggle, but I think both sexes experience it differently. Men experience it with their near insatiable desire for sexual variety and women experience it with their hypergamous need to have the “top man” they can get. I don’t think you can ever make these feelings go away, you can only do your best to mitigate them. Religion served this purpose for quite a long time (with not great succe…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 09:11 PM
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Let’s be real. If the recent “Average girl gets 7 dates in 24 hours with respectful, average men” thread didn’t compel the usual bluepill / misandrist suspects to concede what should have been an utterly obvious point (women have it far easier in modern dating), then absolutely nothing will. IMO that thread was pretty much a watershed moment on PPD in that somebody finally called the bluff of a Blue Pilled narrative (I sincerely think the originator of the challenge didn’t believe the person wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 08:54 PM
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Even then, who’s to say these guys are serious? OP needs to go on a few dates with these guys and have sex with them to get any real data. Then and only then will he find out why they “choose the bear”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 07:50 PM
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Women are “single” the way a person who owns a second oceanfront home in Malibu “hasn’t been to the beach in a while”.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 06:31 PM
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It’s hilarious that the loudest PPD misandrists, RP deniers and bloops are completely absent from this thread. It single-handedly shut them all up. Even the instigator of the thread itself made a couple of begrudging replies with half hearted concessions. This thread is SO revelatory about so many things that are discussed on this sub, it is absolutely a turning point for PPD IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 06:23 PM
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Gossip is not “calling out”, telling their friends to “get that bag” is not calling out.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 07:13 AM
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Show me an example where regularly “call out” other women for anything other than being a “pick me”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 07:06 AM
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depending on the content I can see quite a lot of negative comments from women towards other women. No. No you don’t. Unless you’re referring to women calling other women “Pick Me’s” which is just another way of women getting angry at women who break the “solidarity”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 06:58 AM
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Respect for honoring the bet. 🤜🤛 Let’s be real, a lot of people would have tried to get out of it or equivocate. EDIT Just saw the predictable and pathetic attempt to equivocate using the old “well some guys could be axe murdering psychos and we don’t know that these would be good relationships! Women still have it harder!” nonsense. Accountability and PPD women. Name a worse combo. 😂 Respect withdrawn. 🤛↔️🤜 <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 03:18 AM
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You were dead right. And you’ll see this “strategy” from PPD bloops and women over and over again. The things that stand out: Windmill still hasn’t replied to admit defeat for her asinine “challenge” The usual suspects that dogpile on every opportunity to dunk on anything that smells of RP are completely silent on the main point The ones trying to obfuscate, deflect or move the goalposts are so transparent in doing so they are proving other even more commonly denied points true (80:20)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 02:52 AM
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It’s absolutely hilarious to watch women in their flailing to take down a single incontrovertible point that confirms one RP contention, prove 2 or 3 other RP contentions in the process. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 02:34 AM
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*An Asian man Statistically on OLD, that would be the equivalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 02:31 AM
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“One time with one person” Did you even read the OP? Look at the wagons circling for dear life! 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 01:05 AM
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“We can smell the misogyny on men!”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 01:02 AM
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Nice try. The very fact that you can be so “alternative” niche oriented proves the point and doubly so. In fact, it’s statistically likely that you prefer the top 20% within that niche.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 12:48 AM
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It went from “I choose the bear!” to “How could you do this to these poor men?” real quick.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 12:32 AM
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Ironically, you just proved one of the main points of this experiment. Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 12:24 AM
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Feigning ignorance to avoid accountability for utterly common and repeated claims made by women. Another one of those “prove the point while questioning it” moments. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 12:20 AM
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Absolutely. I’d put it at about the 1274th worst difficulty men face in online dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 12:16 AM
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I'm just going off of how often I read on reddit that men have made fake profiles. Woman science. 💁🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 12:14 AM
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I have to admit, this is some Olympic level mental gymnastics. Women ITT dodging accountability like Neo. It’s breathtaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 11:57 PM
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lol yup. Suddenly the men they find more threatening and dangerous than bears are vulnerable cuddly puppies in need of rescue. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 11:55 PM
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👆Male “out group bias” in action. Also, post a photo of what you think this girls actual match would look like.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 11:48 PM
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Choosing to pick this tiny data point out of the obvious broader point is what is telling. It’s a complete aside in the data and irrelevant, but it caught your eye enough for you to try to spin a “men are intimidated” and “women can’t do anything except be nurses and maids” narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 11:45 PM
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lol is somebody gonna tell her that getting ghosted after messaging and even scheduling dates with women is a completely fucking standard experience for men on OLD? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 11:28 PM
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Truth. This post should be stickied on PPD. But it won’t be.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 11:26 PM
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“Prejudice” is doing all the work here because saying “women like tall guys” is “prejudice” by definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 10:59 PM
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lol the flailing of women trying to spin this to find any “we have it harder!” narrative in these results is hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 10:58 PM
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Social media induced brain rot confirmed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 10:41 PM
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Holy Moving Goalposts 😂 Now it’s “well they don’t actually send creepy messages until women are OFF the apps!” Then it will be “Well, they act nice on the date, but are creeps when behind closed doors!” Then “well they cheat after 7 years of marriage!”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 10:39 PM
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80:20 strikes again. Lmao. This thread continues to provide a goldmine of women telling on themselves. Reminds me of the whole West Elm Caleb (6’3, six figure white guy) being called a “4” by women on PPD. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 10:35 PM
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No. That isn’t how it works, it wasn’t the argument and it certainly wasn’t the agreed upon parameters of the experiment. The contention is that “All women get online are a bunch of dick pics, sexual harassment and undatable losers” In this case the contention was specifically that a woman fitting the description used could not get a certain number of acceptable men to respectfully ask her out on a date within a week. OP proved that completely and utterly wrong in less than a day Really, women a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 10:30 PM
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Ah yes. Let’s throw in the amorphous and ever movable “misogyny” as a qualifier. You do realize “misogyny”, being an almost completely subjective weasel word will allow you to claim victory in any argument right?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 10:26 PM
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Is it your contention that these men who in an unsolicited manner suggested meeting up doesn’t count because … what? That they didn’t get in their car and drive to a location. Then you would just say that “they didn’t show they were serious” or some other such nonsense. Also, no goalposts were moved but you’re sitting here claiming they were.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 10:24 PM
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He satisfied the agreed upon parameters of the challenge. WTF is it with women on PPD constantly arguing with the very evidence they asked for?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 10:22 PM
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Here’s the bottom line: Even IF redpill is, as you claim, “just a collection of common sense ideas that other people have already talked about”, it doesn’t somehow make RP invalid. It’s also just bizarre argument. On one hand you “think RP is wrong” and on another hand you think RP is just saying “correct things that other people have already said” It’s one or the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 10:01 PM
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Has Windmill posted an admission of being wrong here or is this another case of women blasting the headline and burying the retraction?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 09:56 PM
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That was the entire premise of this post. You also constantly see women claiming it’s just “losers trolling for sex and being inappropriate” that they face in OLD. OP completely put this argument to bed once and for all. Any woman ever making this claim should be directly linked to this post from now on.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 09:54 PM
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You’re not asking this in good faith, but instead looking for any “gotcha” you can so this will be my last reply. For you to claim that cultivating an aesthetic and leaning in to areas where that aesthetic is most appreciated is part of mainstream blue pilled advice in 2024 is delusional. What you generally hear are various forms of “be yourself” and “wash your ass” from the mainstream. Mainstream blue pillers won’t tell a guy who likes motorcycles to lean into the aesthetic, they’ll tell him to…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 09:30 PM
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I can. As can anybody with more than a superficial, passing knowledge of such RP type discussions on the matter. But I won’t because I’ve got stuff to do today and because there is so much information out there that a 30 second google search would answer the question. Here’s a starting point though: Google: “Nichemaxxing” There are countless examples of how RP deep dives on “common sense” advice in ways that mainstream (Blue Pilled) venues will not.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 08:23 PM
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Yeah. No. I never said “no they don’t” I said the fact that they do doesn’t negate the deeper and more specific ways RP discusses that advice. How is this hard to understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 06:57 PM
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A basic tenant *Tenet of red pill is acting like the rest of the world doesn’t give men real advice on how to make themselves more attractive, which is just patently false. No. This another dumb argument against RP you see time and again. It doesn’t matter that other sources have or do offer similar or even identical advice. What matters is that Red Pill spaces tend to discus that advice in a candid and blunt way that doesn’t obfuscate the reality. We can take something as simple as “socialize m…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 05:06 PM
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Nope. We’re not gonna both sides this one. There are many things men may have it “easier” in life, but the getting sex is not one of them, no matter how much women want to talk about shit like “body insecurity” and “anxiety” and “making themselves attractive” (as if men don’t have to do all that and much more) As far as whether I’d “marry” a promiscuous woman? I wouldn’t marry any woman at this pin t. But I’d be no less likely to marry the promiscuous woman than the chaste and boring woman. In f…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 08:14 PM
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“Yall” don’t say shit. Sluts are great. I love them and a lot of guys agree. The issue guys have is when women claim the “need to wait” with an average guy but will fuck Chad in the club bathroom in 10 minutes. It’s the hypocrisy and the lies about women’s “requirements” before sex. (Ie “I’m sapio / demi / whateverthefuck) Finally a woman fucking a man shouldn’t be demonized, but it will never be celebrated for one simple reason: Unlike with men, being a slut as a woman takes zero skill.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 07:32 PM
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Women used to have lots of "suitors" (they still do, but they used to, too) Upvoted for Hedberg reference. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 05:28 PM
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It’s doubly worse than this actually. It’s natures cruel joke(or genius design) Women simultaneously have a lower innate sex drive, and are far less likely to value sex for its own sake compared to men, but have a near effortless ability to get it. With men they have an immense desire for sex, but most have a far more difficult time getting it. One group has an abundance of a thing they don’t want, and another has a scarcity of something they virtually need This is behind a lot of it, but is not…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 07:47 AM
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This amounts to another “ignore your sex drive” posts. If human history has taught us anything it’s that men value sex. A lot. They will do what it takes to get sex. The end. Take it up with god / nature / the universe if you don’t like it. You can keep living in a world of “should”, I find it more effective to operate in a world of “is”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 07:40 AM
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Yup. Like almost everything else remotely controversial, garden variety Red Pill as “sexual strategy” has been commodified into monetized conflict and outrage porn. You’ll see this with literally everything now because conflict drives “engagement” and engagement is money. As you said, if following The Red Pill results in having more sex, then it worked.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 06:49 AM
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What’s a better way to attract women consistently other than “be a good person in general”? That’s your actual question? Nevermind. 🤦🏻‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 06:43 AM
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Jesus this is a perfect reply to like 80% of the stupid “RP men do this” and “RP men do that” posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 06:34 AM
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So you have nothing to offer men seeking answers about how to improve their ability to attract women other than platitudes like “be a better person”. Got it. Thanks for the contribution.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 06:27 AM
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All you are taking issue with are the anger stage “AWlALT” types. Most guys that took the time to understand the basics of RP ideas and have moved on to living their lives with this knowledge as a navigation aid (but not an exact map) generally regard these guys as doing it wrong anyway. The claim that RP is just “self improvement with misogyny” completely ignores the (sometimes flawed) intellectual inquiry and somewhat scientific methodology. One thing that hit me when first discovering RP were…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 03:57 AM
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By all “blackpill” facial metrics, Driver would be called an “Incel” which is my point. Pointing out he has “nice hair and good skin” is irrelevant. Plenty of ugly guys have great skin and plenty of hot guys have less than perfect skin. Lyle Lovett was another example from the 90’s as well as Hugh Laurie in “House” They had fan girls, but they were not conventionally attractive like a Chris Pinevenasworth type.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 10:45 PM
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Yah I figured somebody would bring up the height. This doesn’t matter for celebrities as they essentially appear at whatever height the director wants them to on camera (see Tom Cruise) Even Driver was 5’10, he’d still have a niche.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 10:26 PM
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There’s “sexy ugly” like Adam Driver and then there’s just … invisible / NPC / undatable ugly like Brian Bumgartner (Keith from The Office) Obviously, this is taking away fame and celebrity from the equation. An Adam Driver driver looking guy can find a niche with the right combination of game, demographics and effort. A Keith from The Office looking guy has no niche outside of paying.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 10:16 PM
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The knowledge is pretty much common sense. No. It used to be until society drilled the “women are wonderful” and “men are toxic” mantra into a generation of men. Now, we apparently need to tell young men they need to get verbal consent before going for a kiss after a first date and that having sex after a couple of drinks is “rape”. Does that sound like “common sense” to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 01:58 AM
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There’s an entire school of thought about how men can navigate this reality. Maybe you’ve heard of it …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 12:50 AM
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I don’t disagree with anything here. The OP was about how much men put “too much” into pursuing women, not that they lack motivation to do so. Men do not “lack the motivation” to pursue women for sex and relationships, they lack the knowledge of how to do it successfully.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 12:48 AM
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This entire argument is like a man saying “so what if I’m getting constant one night stands with hot models, if most of them give toothy blowjobs?” It comes from a place of immense privilege in the first place “Chad didn’t make me cum!” is not a dunk.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 09:18 PM
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If by “in dating” you mean “in having one night stands with virtual strangers without serious concerns for their safety” then, yes women have it harder. Yet, big surprise, if the guy is sufficiently hot, those “concerns” very often go right out the window. If by “in dating” you mean, well, “getting dates in the first place” then, no. Women do NOT have it harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 05:37 PM
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The issue is that, like so many of these types of “just stop caring bro” posts before it, it’s disconnected from reality. It would be far more helpful to say “feel the burning desire for women, but do X anyway” because no matter what normal, healthy heterosexual males do as a distraction, they will always feel that desire, “so here are some actionable strategies to do it” Your whole post may as well say “just turn it off” It doesn’t fucking work like that. This argument also uses the “water is n…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 05:08 PM
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“Just ignore your biological imperative bro!” This is the exact equivalent to telling women: “I don’t think you share really care that much about your kids.” Human males are literally designed to care about this almost above all else. Now, telling men they should mediate this by seeking balance in their life is wise, but this type of “advice” is almost always a thinly veiled way of telling men to deny and walk away from the most fundamental of their instincts. Not. Going. To. Happen. FFS. We use…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 04:56 PM
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It’s hilarious that you describe anything g pre OLD as some kind of dating hellscape where women “were forced to settle” rather than being “empowered” by OLD to “find guys they are compatible with” which, let’s be honest here, means “serially date hawt guys out of their league”, get pumped and dumped at worst or end up in short “situationships” at best. Your implication that this is somehow now “fair” is also ridiculous since, for thousands of years, no man outside of a celebrity ever had access…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 04:50 PM
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To all the “it’s always been like this!” people: Yes, it’s true that nothing has changed about the nature of men and women in dating, because we are still the same hairless apes we were 10,000 years ago. What people are ignoring is that the environment in which that nature is expressed makes an enormous difference. Take the simple fact of women’s understandable and evolutionary desire to “find the best man available” This was tuned for an environment consisting of a tribe or small community. Cal…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 04:03 AM
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This thread is days old. All of your points have been addressed repeatedly by myself and others in the hundreds replies to it. I’m not going to re-hash all of this just for your benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 09:46 PM
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Bla bla bla… Everything’s fine, nothing to see here. All men’s problems are self inflicted or not problems at all. Nothing is different. There’s no rampant misandry and anti man sentiment in the modern west etc etc Keep whistling past the graveyard. It’s attitudes like this that have allowed the problem to get as bad as it has.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 07:49 PM
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Can we please do away with this “telling me X without telling me X” All it “tells me” is that a person is so bereft of wit or creativity that they need to speak in tired ass internet memes. It’s like the modern Wayne’s World “….Not!”
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 05:28 PM
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No. It doesn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 05:04 PM
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I guess we should just ignore what this drumbeat of hate from all directions will do to an entire generation of young men who have this ideology force fed to them from birth huh? Guess that 4-5x higher suicide rate and 3x less college graduate rate isn’t enough. Gotta pump those numbers up.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 05:02 PM
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TIL women are down “beneath” men. Thanks for that insight.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 08:38 AM
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Have you looked around? This place is FULL with [SNIP] I’ll tell you the same thing I’ve told all the other posters making this asinine “b-b-but on here!!!” argument. “On here” is a niche of a niche of an internet ghetto with little to no mainstream acceptance. THAT is the only place making statements like “women do X” is even contemplated, and even then outside of PPD results in massive pushbacks, downvotes if not bans. In every facet of mainstream western culture, it’s fully OK and even celebr…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 07:52 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 07:16 AM
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As I said, men can be emotional, but in a different way (having a temper outburst is how it manifests, usually). This is the argument that women here usually make. I've yet to see a woman insist that "women are stoic". Riiight. Are you talking in general or in online discourse? It sure sounds like you’re speaking about “among my friends” What do you think the reaction would be if a mainstream political figure made the point that men make better pilots or race car drivers due to their ability to …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 05:26 AM
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The police / A gun.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 03:10 AM
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Yep. I misread the map again and thought NY state was 18. In any case, there are plenty of people “uncomfortable” with a 35 year old dating a 21 year old because “muh life stages” or a 40 year old dating a 25 year old because “muh underdeveloped brain “ or a 50 year old dating a 30 year old because “muh power imbalance” The point (which you are ignoring for some reason) is that these neurotic harpies should be summarily ignored, and by and large in real life they are. Thus, the age gaps I’ve had…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 01:17 AM
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Many (most) modern US feminists are poorly disguised neo puritans when it comes to anything “heteronormative”. They’ve gone full Horseshoe
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 11:54 PM
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That’s awesome. That’s the best wa anybody can really handle time off from dating after a break up. Most people (men or women) generally aren’t really at their healthiest and most productive for a long while after one. I’ve definitely been guilty of going out and hitting the booze (or worse) for way too long before getting my shit together. Fortunately, I’ve found other ways to cope now that I’m too old to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 11:53 PM
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You’re were right on your statement. I was wrong to correct you. I had thought it was also predominantly 18 by state it’s actually less than half the states. Still, by population, it is “for the most part” 18. We’ll call it a draw. 😁
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 11:36 PM
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Who's agreed that? Our elected representatives in the US have agreed that it's 16 or 17 in most states. What part of “for the most part” didn’t you understand? Legally speaking, our country has mostly decided that's the age at which humans are adults who can make a decision on who to sleep with. Correct. And drive, and join the military, and accrue a lifetime of debt. But just because something is legal, doesn't mean everyone will be okay with it. Then they should lobby to change the laws or let…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 09:50 PM
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That’s honestly interesting to hear. Thanks. It’s good to know there are women out there willing to just raw dog a breakup. As a man, this is how nearly all of the breakups (that I’ve instigated) have looked and I’ve had to spent months or years rebuilding / reinventing myself generally before being able to get a date. It’s not been my experience nor matched a single experience of any relationship I’ve seen among my friends across decades that women simply jump out of a relationship into the gre…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 08:45 PM
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Newsflash: Women operate in a world of should and not a world of is. They also operate in a world in which “if it makes me feel bad / uncomfortable than it is immoral” This is both good and bad tbh. We can’t have some autistic understanding and absolutist thinking like “13 year olds can get pregnant, therefore they are fair game sexually” but we also need to agree upon an age at which human beings are adults and can make their own decisions. We’ve agreed that this age is 18 for the most part, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 08:40 PM
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That is not remotely the same thing. “Taking time off from dating” is not what I’m talking about. What I’m talking about is leaving an established but faltering relationship specifically to be alone and start over. I’ve seen plenty of women “date around” then stop. I’ve seen women in “situationships” give up and take a break. What I’ve never seen is a woman in anything resembling an LTR, simply leave that LTR due to compatibility issues or “lack of spark” or whatever without having the next man …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 08:35 PM
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Yeah TBH, the changing from CMV to “Debate” absolutely threw me as I took months off from this place when that change was made. It does help if I just think of it as the old “CMV” rules. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 08:31 PM
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Most of the women that I've known admit that women can be emotional. You’re one of the best faith posters here, and certainly the best faith mod, but come on. You know this isn’t what we’re discussing when we refer to things like “cultural zeitgeist” and “mainstream approved ideas” We aren’t talking about some face to face conversation with a woman in your direct social circle, we’re talking about things like media, education, politics, etc Things that make up the pervasive cultural soup we live…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 08:29 PM
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Got it. But Jesus. This is some “Article 3, Rule 2, Subsection F” shit. Anyway thanks for the explanation.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 08:03 PM
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Again if you had it before you met your partner you probably still have it. Lol no. This isn’t how men work. When it comes to behavior, Men must be active participants in being attractive to the opposite sex. Women do this passively through appearance and existing. But if you’re going out purposefully to flirt in order to check to see if you still got it, then I would consider that cheating. Lol so you’d consider it cheating if your boyfriend made a witty observation to a server at a restaurant,…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 07:34 PM
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Again, you’re either deliberately or unintentionally not getting what “dread” means. Dread is the tacit and innate knowledge that your partner has easily exercisable options at any given time. It’s not about living in fear, it’s not about being controlling, it’s not about paranoia. It’s about knowing the basic reality of sexual dynamics between men and women. As I said, women don’t need to think about these things consciously because it “just happens” passively. Men need to keep their skills sha…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 07:21 PM
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You’re not getting this. And that’s ok, as a woman; you’ve never needed to. I promise you, your boyfriend gets this whether he tells you or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 07:11 PM
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Men don’t have the luxury of thinking this way. This is an example of women living in denial of the actual reality men live in. You might try things like empathy and perspective shifts.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 07:02 PM
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Then basically all you’re doing is practicing “she’s not yours, it’s just your turn” by another name. Which is also healthy, but being unprepared for the unexpected is how men find themselves at the end of a rope a la Anthony Bourdain.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 07:01 PM
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It must be. Because outside of damn near life threatening levels of abuse, I’ve never seen a woman break up just to spend more time with her hobbies and cats or whatever. There was always another guy on cue. Always.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 06:59 PM
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What are you imagining “throw their options in their partners face” to look like? A woman doesn’t need to do anything “in their partners” face. It’s all encompassed by her looking cute, acting feminine, wearing makeup, wearing sexy clothes, etc. The result, men look at her, sometimes very obviously. Sometimes men try to flirt with her. It’s a constant. Any man who has dated remotely attractive women have countless stories of going to the bathroom at club or concert and coming back to see some gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 06:51 PM
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You do understand that this is the default behavior (whether passive or deliberate) of women, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 06:35 PM
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I’ve never had a woman break up with me before they already had the next guy completely lined up and off the bench. Never. I’ve never seen a woman break up with a man to simply “be alone”, yet I’ve done this many times to women. Even the mutual break ups or the ones where I broke up with her exclusively, those girls were on another dick within days or weeks at the very most. A couple were married / pregnant within 3 months of me breaking up with them. Contrast that to my situation and that of al…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 06:32 PM
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Lemme guess “dread and having options is problematic?”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 06:27 PM
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Absolutely brilliant and spot on reply. I’ve adopted this mindset in relationships and it’s made everything much better for both of us. Trying to police a woman’s “opportunities to be hit on” is a losing game. As you alluded to, the only thing you can do is be prepared which means have options. Always. The times I’ve gotten blindsided and spent months or more a complete emotional wreck were the times I let all of my connections and passive options with other women wither. This is a huge mistake …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 05:36 PM
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Looks at men who push back on being compared more inherently dangerous than 800lbs, carnivorous beasts that kill as a matter of survival and can maim to death completely by accident with a fingernail… Calls them the “narrow minded” ones. This shit has truly devolved into comedy at this point. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 05:28 PM
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Wrong. One would have to be blind not to see that the current zeitgeist is to present men as a single entity all carrying various degrees of culpability for “The Patriarchy” Terms like “toxic masculinity” and “the male gaze” and the myriad of other similar catch-all buzzwords are designed to do one thing: label maleness as inherently “problematic” As I already pointed out, it’s completely a-ok and accepted to publicly say “men do this” and “men do that” when referring to very negative things. Tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 05:19 PM
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Thanks for sharing that. I’ve seen this play out with people who spend their lives having to constantly fight against negative expectations and I know it’s exhausting. And here’s the thing, as a white guy (well, half Hispanic but I present completely white) I want to make it clear: I will make the same negative snap judgements about certain people based solely on appearance Here’s the more important thing: Very often those snap judgments are wildly wrong I’ve made assumptions about tatted up Mex…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 05:11 PM
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I honestly have no idea what this jumble of words is supposed to mean. Thanks though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 08:10 AM
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Wait, so your argument is that me (a male) posting a comment that got upvotes on a microscopic Reddit sub is evidence that my points are invalid?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 07:49 AM
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How does this change the fact that negative behavior among a small group of criminals is assigned to “men” generally, whereas negative behavior among a small group of women is very much individualized? It doesn’t matter that the offense of the particular criminal men are more severe, the issue is that women and western society hold “men” in general accountable and answerable for such actions. You also don’t address how individual women’s positive achievements are collectivized as examples of why…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 07:47 AM
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I mean, this post boils down to: “hot dark triad men are too busy getting laid to post on a sub like this, while ugly ones aren’t” Is that supposed to be some insightful contribution?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 04:47 AM
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You just collectivized the negative behavior of a small amount of men, while taking pains to individualize the negative behavior of a small amount of women. Sincerely, Thank you. If you’d like to know why, simply re-read the title of my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 03:59 AM
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What? I expanded on the point FFS.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 03:42 AM
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Honest question, Are we still having to explain to women on PPD what an apex fallacy is?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 03:41 AM
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“Feminists” have the power of the state behind them to m destroy almost any man they choose. Would you like a list of all the women who maliciously sent men to jail for decades on made up charges? Or are those just “outliers” where somehow the mentally ill men you are alluding to are “representing a movement”?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 03:39 AM
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And fascist movements in Europe were “started” as a means of creating national unity and improving the economy. So?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 03:36 AM
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Apex. Fallacy. The end.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 03:34 AM
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Dear God, it was none other than Zoe Fucking Quinn behind this story too. The prototype of your average TwoX poster. In August 2019, Holowka was accused of physical and emotional abuse by Zoë Quinn, whom he had briefly cohabited with in Winnipeg in 2012.[11][12] The day following the accusation, the Night in the Woods development team cut ties with Holowka, with Scott Benson writing "We take such allegations seriously as a team".[13] The team stated that other corroborating evidence related to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 03:30 AM
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I think this doesn’t play out so much IRL among friends and social groups but sure as hell does in public policy, online “acceptable” discourse, education, politics and media. My concern is how this drumbeat of male demonization will affect young men. I can’t imagine this is going to lead to anything good in 10 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 01:24 AM
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No. It really isn’t. I don’t believe you can “both sides” the way women and men are talked about in modern western societies.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 12:42 AM
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That’s a great point. I forgot about that qualifier trick that applies to men but only in the negative. “So he did a thing, he’s still a piece of shit” Women get the exact opposite treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 12:39 AM
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… and how do women react when a woman breaks new ground or does something exceptional?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 12:34 AM
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Got it. For future reference, any time your argument includes multiple references to “The Patriarchy™” as a point of blame or justification for shitty behavior, you’ve probably lose that argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 11:34 PM
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Im going to ask this in all good faith. When you say things like this, do you ever stop and think about men in your life that you care about and how when you say “we need to defend against them” that necessarily includes those men? Like, I just can’t phathom how some of the women on here making these arguments feel about their little brothers, their fathers, the men who have helped them in difficult times, the men who would defend them. Like do you just block them out as “one of the good ones” w…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 11:27 PM
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If a famous men said loudly, publicly and en masse “I would rather get bit ten by a rat than help a woman in trouble” would that sound like a reasonable and totally fine take to you? Do you think women would be ok with that? Don’t think there’d be any outrage or calls for cancellation? After all, use your own logic; a rat may but may not have a disease, its bite may not be that bad, the rat might have a broken tooth, the rat won’t actually kill you. But a woman may accuse you of something, she m…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 11:20 PM
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So we’re adding in a dash of “sins of the father / blood libel” along with collective guilt to justify the wholesale demonization of a group. I feel like I’ve seen this before. 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 10:57 PM
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Please give an example of collective guilt and responsibility being assigned to women in a modern mainstream venue.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 10:56 PM
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Hard disagree. While saying “men are stronger and can lift things” won’t be controversial, it’s only because there’s zero moral or character value assigned to that. You absolutely DO get pushback calling women emotional. Come on. Further, when an individual outlier woman accomplishes something it is absolutely presented as a collective accomplishment and women celebrate it as their own all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 10:55 PM
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There are COUNTLESS mainstream news outlets not only covering this take, but defending it. Please find a similar anti woman position covered and promoted in non “manosphere” spaces before expecting a reply. Thanks. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 10:50 PM
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whoosh That was my point, sweetheart. Your point was you don’t know anything about the man or bear so you will choose the least predictable, least possible to escape, most capable of fatally maiming you with a fingernail option? If you can't tell which of either are dangerous, then why are you upset with what they choose? Because, despite the pathetic attempts to evade the clear motivations of this position, the subtext that will not be lost on a generation of young boys is that they are worse t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 10:47 PM
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No. “The Bear” discussion and its defenders are very much mainstream. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 10:43 PM
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Wait, you actually think when a man does something good, society will say “YAY MEN!” The way when a woman does something exceptional they say “YAY WOMEN!” Come on man.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 10:39 PM
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You did not address the broader point: Why are men’s misdeeds collectivized and their accomplishments individualized whereas the inverse is true for women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 10:38 PM
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I almost saw a point in this reply where it was about perceived danger, but as with many other replies, the minute one or more further levels of intellectual inquiry or critical thinking was required it quickly devolved into an emotional tirade of buzzword bingo. Maybe you can try to steel man the other side next time?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 10:36 PM
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Interesting insight and I agree many many men eventually “go along to get along” I feel could be a good explanation for a number of men exhibiting “out group bias”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 10:33 PM
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Any posts that use terms like “on this sub” or “on 4chan” or “in the manosphere” preceding “they say” will be ignored. I’m sorry. This argument is a non starter and is ridiculous on its face.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 10:29 PM
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Thanks. This is the first honest and somewhat dispassionate answer here. I think what we are seeing here is a kind of “eco psych” thing playing out which has biological roots, combined with modern mass media, a victimhood culture and poor mental health. That’s kind of the chemistry behind all this IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 10:28 PM
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Are you telling me you know which individual bears might be territorial? Which ones may be hungry? Which ones may want to simply play a little and kill you in the process? This doesn’t exactly require some high level of critical thinking to see how insane this sounds. Otherwise the entire argument is, “the streets and subways and schools aren’t filled with wild bears, therefore it is more likely to encounter a dangerous man in every day human life” That is a LONG way from saying “if I was alone …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 10:23 PM
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That’s what I’m asking you to ask yourself. And then, it would be even better if you did some further thought experiments with this conclusion to see how consistent it is across other groups. And if it is or isn’t, again, ask yourself why. Most of the replies in this thread seem to stop at the stage of “Men deserve these negative assumptions”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 10:21 PM
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LOL I should have scrolled down a little further before responding because you worded it better than I did. This shell game people play with “*Well, I heard Andrew Tate said X” as an example of some kind of example of equilibrium when it comes to acceptable gendered rhetoric is absolutely crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 10:16 PM
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I feel like I need to make a copy / paste response to this take. You are essentially saying “I heard men say ridiculous things in online ghettos and fringe right wing echo chambers, so thus everybody does it” But the very fact that you were clearly morally repulsed by those statements should tell you something shouldn’t it? You are also (as many people seem to be doing) equating the rhetoric of radicalized online groups with overwhelming and dominant mainstream narratives that are accepted if no…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 10:14 PM
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Wait, did you miss the part where these were thought experiments and not my contributions? I presented various scenarios in the context of “Imagine if somebody said this out loud in front of you” and then asked the reader to reflect on how those statements would sit with them and then ask why. Does the fact that you reacted this way to even having the question posed tell you anything about the broader point I’m trying to make at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 10:10 PM
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For future reference, if your only response when discussing mainstream and accepted (or praised) thought and cultural zeitgeist among media, education, politics and society in general is to say “But people in this infinitesimal manosphere ideological ghetto say similar things”, well, I just can’t engage with such an argument. It’s also a sure sign that a person may be terminally online as such discussions aren’t exactly happening at the water cooler in an office. I will say, it displays the same…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 10:05 PM
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I’m sorry but this line of reasoning doesn’t hold up to even the most basic logical inquiry. It’s a purely emotional response that says far more about the neuroticism and fear addiction of the women than the ubiquitous “men” the women are referring to. There are a dozen reasons it’s asinine but we can simply start with an argument you yourself made, implying “bears mind their own business” You say this because you are simply not thinking in terms of PER ENCOUNTER. You walk by countless men every…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 09:52 PM
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That's a rational decision So you don’t know how presenting an entire gender as more dangerous than a carnivorous 1 ton wild animal is an example of demonizing an outgroup while farming for victimhood points and you think it’s a “rational decision” to take your chances with a beast that can kill you with one half hearted swipe of its hand rather than a random man? You don’t see how this is the slightest bit hysterical and neurotic while simultaneously being a socially advantageous narrative to a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 07:12 PM
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Ok. I can agree with that. I believe the issue is “toxic masculinity” is almost always presented as “aggressive things men do to others” and when you hear women try to come up with reasons it’s almost always “things women do to other women or themselves” IMO, emotional manipulation (like “crybullying”), gaslighting, using social groups to do damage (“he was abusive”) etc are the most common manifestations of toxic feminist I see as a man. IMO, any woman who promotes the “I choose the bear” line …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 06:11 PM
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What’s notable about these example is that they almost all involve “going against the sisterhood” This perspective is, ironically, its own form of “toxic femininity” It’s as if women don’t engage in “tearing men down” just as much as they do with women and if they do it’s no big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 05:54 PM
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Because those men won’t deny it whatsoever. Men will happily admit that tons of guys want to bang “cougars” and “MILFs” Yet when it comes to older, attractive men, women on PPD act like it literally never happens outside of sugar babies and prostitutes. You see the difference here?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 06:51 PM
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Then you snarkily threw in “but a woman would be best” at the end which, as everybody knows, in the midst of a fire is a complete and utter bullshit. Nice try though.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 06:48 PM
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Cool. So you’re on the record saying “I totally understand why white people would publicly say they are afraid black people will commit crimes against them.” Got it. I’m glad we’ve established that. Just know, you won’t find anybody on this sub agreeing with you. On a related note, since you were so open minded about negative assumptions about black people, would you then also agree with many of the negative assumptions and resultant fears men express when it comes to women? Things like: false a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 06:46 PM
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Ah yes here comes the “nothing to see here” brigade. Nevermind if the single fact that men offing themselves at 4x the rate of women would be a goddamn four alarm national emergency if it was happening to girls and women and the nation would stop everything until we “figured this out” That’s one of many consequences of the zero sum empathy “women are wonderful” modern dogma. And as far as the hilarious “mUhsoginees iS bIgG oNliNe!1!1” because places like fucking 4chan exist all I need to say is……
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 06:40 PM
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Why don’t they “endure”? You’re saying this in a place with a 50% divorce rate across all demographics FFS. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 06:32 PM
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You’re right about the drama and rage addiction and TBH, that’s an issue for me and probably 90% of the regular posters on PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 06:30 PM
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Yeah. NGL, I went through a period of about a month of watching them incessantly before I just kind of went “what the fuck am I doing?” and realized what a ridiculous and obvious formulaic grift cycle the whole thing was. It’s sort of “entertaining” for a while and then you’re like “oh I get it, here’s the part where they do X, Y and Z again and then tell the girl to leave” etc
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 06:29 PM
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This thread and the original thread is littered with this. They removed the old thread becsuse too many men were making valid points in agreement and labeled it a “circle jerk” Funny how that doesn’t seem to happen to “women good / men bad” posts. Also certain mods are all over both threads violating every PPD “rule” in the book.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 06:25 PM
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I actually agree with much of your take but what you left out was the biggest issue: The pervasiveness of this anti male zeitgeist in education and academia. If you think those won’t have profound consequences, well, we just disagree. Young men internalizing that drum beat of “men are defective and problematic” will not end well when they become adults. You are already seeing this with young men forgoing higher education more than ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 06:23 PM
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Enjoy the bear.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 05:41 AM
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Fucking Crickets. Where is GridRez and arpeswhatever the fuck and their ilk on this data dump?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 04:57 AM
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lol bingo. You’ll never convince me that Marylin Mansons girlfriend wasn’t just trying to “explore her sexuality” with their freaky shit. Then she grew out of it and retroactively decided it was “abusive” You see this with tons of young women who get older and pissed off they don’t wield the same power they used to.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 04:55 AM
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I agree with you there. I will never defend either of them except to say, Tate while an utter cringe douche and parasite, needs his day in court before I’m going to call him guilty of “sex trafficking” (another bastardized term).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 04:52 AM
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I just the highest demo of suicide and deaths of despair. No big deal though right?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 04:41 AM
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Really? The whole “wE fEaR fOr oUr LiFe!1!1” reverse uno victim Olympics? Let’s forget the 4x suicide rate. No big deal right? After all you got cat called by a car full of criminals once. Can’t women come up with an original argument at this point? Women and their zero sum empathy arguments are something you can set your watch to on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 04:31 AM
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Hilariously on a recent age gap thread I was going back and forth with a woman insisting how gross and creepy young women find older guys and using all manner of descriptions like “wrinkly, decrepit” etc Then I mentioned a bunch of guys including Tom Hiddleston and she immediately chimed in “well actually *he’s** hot!* but I’m talking about MOST older guys!” 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 03:57 AM
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And then you went on about how “but I’d prefer a woman” Sure Jan. In a burning fucking building your’d “prefer a woman” 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 03:36 AM
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So yeah please quote me and swap out what you like. You’re a mod, and you asked me to do this. Remember that. “Unfortunately for them, black people have done enough crime to give us every reason to be leery of them. Thinking I hope this black kid in a hoodie on this dark street isn’t going to rob me in an isolated environment” Is it starting to become clear?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 03:34 AM
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Yep. Some engineers getting fired over a “dongle” joke and a NASA scientist almost having to quit and issue a tearful apology over a fucking anime shirt is sure just totally normal and not at all demonizing disproportionate and hysterical responses from women. But, of course, a wild bear is safer than a man. That’s totally hinged in reality right? No issues with loudly proclaiming that one. Your response are nothing if not consistent with the “nothing to see here” hand waiving. But hey at least …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 02:16 AM
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Never denied this. Yes this happens and is something those women don’t deserve. Can you concede my point?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 02:08 AM
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Women: “How dare you say Asian cultures consider light skin attractive!” Also women: “*We’d choose to be in the woods with a bear rather than a MAN! 💅” Not a shred of irony.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 01:39 AM
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Totally. I almost feel like we should start a 3 month “red pill immersion school” where guys just get the basic harsh facts and get it out of their system then move on with life, instead of getting caught in a monetized rage spiral as is seen in the modern “manosphere” I’m only half joking.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 01:37 AM
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Swap “man” for any other group and see how you sound there. Go ahead, I dare you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 01:35 AM
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Here are a few examples I’m going to give you. They are examples of hate campaigns resulting from people going ape shit over what, any rational human being would call innocuous and “immature” behavior at the very worst There are countless other examples on the micro scale most of which never make the news. https://techcrunch.com/2013/03/21/a-dongle-joke-that-spiraled-way-out-of-control/ https://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/nov/14/rosetta-comet-dr-matt-taylor-apology-sexist-shirt https://www.…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 01:31 AM
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You are in here fucking defending the “Bear more dangerous than man” bullshit in this very thread and you are calling him “unhinged”? 😂 You are violating the very rules you are supposed to be enforcing on this sub and thread. The irony hurts.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 01:24 AM
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Honest question, how tf are we supposed to participate in a thread moderated by mods who are violating PPD rules left and right and are presumably policing themselves? I’ve seen countless replies deleted by mods on this thread, yet shit like this useless snark is still up. I won’t even get into the fact that we have mods openly defending the “I choose the bear” absurdity. In ANY other context such a hateful and ridiculous statement would be banworthy on all of Reddit, yet here it’s just “do bett…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 01:19 AM
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That’s all good as long as you level with your boys about how women work and what they attracted to once their hormones kick in. If you don’t, you’d better believe somebody else will.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 01:03 AM
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Mods: “No contentless rhetoric” Also Mods: “Posts meaningless but insulting reaction gif” Never change, PPD. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 01:00 AM
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This is the most tired attempt at a dunk on PPD I can’t believe people still use this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 12:49 AM
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I agree with that. The issue with “toxic masculinity” is like “sexual assault” or “harassment it’s become an amorphous umbrella term used as a weapon to shame men as a gender. With sexual assault for example, it can include everything from Billy attempting an awkward kiss after a first date, to Brent shoving his hands down some random girls panties at a foam party. Many women will, with a straight face, call both “sexual assault”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 12:43 AM
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Bingo. It’s a huge reason psychotherapy is unpopular with men. It’s not designed to include the type of “agency inducing effective action” that makes men generally feel purposeful, but rather focuses solely on their (also necessary) past and their feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 12:40 AM
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No. The call is coming from gaslighting feminists who want to obfuscate every obvious point by citing extreme outliers as a means of pretending male issues have no commonality.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 12:37 AM
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Thanks for sharing. In other news, this happens at scale: https://www.newsweek.com/boys-forced-apologize-female-classmates-behalf-gender-1578793 Oddly, as a Gen X er raised by hippie parents, this mirrors my childhood a lot. I will tell you I had to deprogram myself of a lot of this shit later in life when it came time to learn about “how to be a man who actually gets dates” Why? Because getting dates requires a man to skillfully use a variety of tools and traits he should develop in childhood. …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 12:35 AM
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A flair changed OP where nearly every top level comment is then nuked is silly. You know the rules of the sub. You chose that. Ah. I do wonder why a mod nuked a thread with hundreds of replies even after various mods had participated in said post. Reddit and its petty tyrants never cease to amuse. You can provide an assortment of examples of men being called toxically masculine when they are not being toxically masculine. Really? That’s what you’re going with? “Go dig up all the examples I alrea…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 12:28 AM
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Crickets. They are making the same old “boys need to be well behaved like girls!” argument we’ve been hearing for years. It’s a roundabout way of shaming men and repeating the “do better” mantra. Basically laying all of the blame at men’s feet (directly or indirectly) while abdicating any need to reflect on large societies need to address men’s unique issues because that would :gasp: include women showing some empathy towards the “privileged” gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 12:19 AM
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“Just become a monk bro” is not an argument nor a solution. There are many things on the hierarchy of needs that won’t literally KILL you to do with out, but without which you as an individual and organized society will function poorly if at all. Everything in your replies imply that a “virtuous form of masculinity” is essentially to “become more feminine” You derided very common and utterly normal male bonding rituals as “toxic”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 12:16 AM
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I’m not going to argue that “The Manosphere™” hasn’t become a self perpetuating rage cycle and grift. One semi-happy story here is “Wheat Waffles” The guy made content for like 3 years and was never a dick about it. He often evolved his opinion and would acknowledge this. He had countless debates with people opposed to him (lots of women) and was always respectful and good faith in his discussions. I never saw even the most rabid feminist say a bad word about him. Just recently he quit basically…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 12:08 AM
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...you can have sex and hit on women. You just can't be a fucking weirdo about it. You mean “don’t be ugly” is what you mean. Stop bullshitting. Every (and I mean EVERY) man has a story of some innocuous encounter in which he got labeled a “creep” by a woman for the sole reason that she didn’t find him attractive. Women don’t have a great record at being the arbiters of what constitutes “weird” as can be seen very clearly with their many ridiculous “icks”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 12:02 AM
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Ah yes, the old “men are just a defective gender and need to strive to be like women” argument again. I like the part where you just completely let women off the hook. As if women’s approval isn’t the prime motivator for male behavior. Maybe that should tell you something about how deep the internalized hate goes for modern men? This whole exchange is a case in point. A mealy mouthed existential hodgepodge of why “men need to be more sensitive, emotional and vulnerable” and insert any number of …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 11:53 PM
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First of all, the fact that the mods removed a very active thread rather than simply changing the flair is telling. Second, the claim that “the only time women call out men for toxic masculinity is when men are toxicity masculine” is utterly ridiculous in 2024 and everybody knows it. Seriously, how many ridiculous takes do you need to see and hear from women to know that they will label damn near anything men do (that doesn’t serve women) as “toxic”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 11:50 PM
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Oh dear god what mealy mouth nonsense is this? “But what IS a man, really?!?!” I am no Jordan Peterson fan but fuck me if this isn’t some kind of post-modern “nothing means anything” drivel. We know what the vast majority of men and their basic nature involve. How about we start there and then work our way down to “effeminate, pansexual, multicolor dreadlocked hipster barista with a 3 nose rings who enjoys being pegged” as a start?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 11:47 PM
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Do you believe the countless female specific outreach, aid, intervention and “inclusion” programs should or should not exist? Because you’re clearly saying no such male specific programs should exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 11:44 PM
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Let’s just pretend the part of male biology that sees sex with women as very very important and quite close to a “basic need” doesn’t exist huh? Yes, I know, “just evolve past that bro!” Yeah, give it about 10,000 more years.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 11:42 PM
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nods slowly and backs out of the conversation. A wise choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 11:39 PM
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men demonize, pathologize and otherwise caste themselves,other men enforce it. they refuse help offered, think its a way of mocking them. Or, is it possible that modern intervention models treat boys like defective girls rather than tailoring them to boys unique psychological profiles? men fall into these toxic ways of thinking. due to their own insecurities. So, if a girl ends up with an eating disorder or self harm like cutting due to “her own insecurities” what then? Tough shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 09:59 PM
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Is there an argument here? Can you explain what you mean by “if YOU don’t like us”? Who is “you” here? “Men” collectively don’t like women?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 09:48 PM
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Most people nowadays have mental health issues Well, You got that part right anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 09:34 PM
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First, I should have checked the username 🤦🏻‍♂️ But, since I’m here, you’re right there with the people who blamed Columbine on Doom, Marylyn Manson and The Matrix rather than, you know, an mental health system that has utterly failed young men. Or maybe you missed the part where Elliot Roger was in and out of psychiatric treatment years before he made a couple of posts on some incel forum. Anyway, enough of that. Have a good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 09:19 PM
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I don’t see people in real life getting punished for sneaking a glance and smiling. Ah, I see somebody missed the last 4-5 years of women at gyms in bootie shorts zooming in on men and “calling them out” for incidentally turning their head in their direction as they purposely perform Romanian deadlifts for their camera, or for using a machine next to theirs. You’re scared by this because you likely have crossed the line in real life, and are worried about being held accountable. Ah yes, the pers…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 09:12 PM
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When you’re accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression. The very fact that white western women so commonly cite this quote when they try to dunk on men who kill themselves at 4x the rate, suffer exponentially more on the job deaths and are falling behind in every meaningful metric is peak solipsism. There is NO more privileged creature on earth than a western white woman. I swear, did the “Barbie” movie just make women drunk on their own victim complex all over again? I thought we w…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 09:07 PM
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Is there some genetic reason women can’t understand things that require a dispassionate analysis of biological imperatives? Dear god it’s maddening. Is this refusal to comprehend brutal evolutionary reality why women believe in horoscopes and crystals?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 09:03 PM
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Here’s my last reply: The fact that we’ve transcended the literal “need” for an instinct, biological drive or imperative does not mean we are not largely governed / influenced / propelled by them in subtle (and not so subtle) ways. You obviously know this but are continuing to play this deliberately obtuse game so I’m gonna bounce. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 09:00 PM
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The minute you start using murderous criminal extreme outliers as examples is when your arguments should just be tuned out. We are discussing pervasive attitudes in mainstream culture. In politics, media, education, etc. Your argument is like a vegan saying “meanwhile meat eaters are out there eating human beings!” because Jeffery Dahmer exists. Or, more appropriately saying “Muslim countries breed terrorists!” when places like Turkey and Malaysia exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 08:57 PM
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Another person feigning deliberate obtuseness when discussing basic human biology and its result mating strategies and motivations? I’ll pass.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 08:35 PM
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My several decades of life experience, dating and observation of women’s behavior versus their words disagrees. I’ll go with that instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 08:30 PM
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See, you’re taking the most extreme form of any male activity and acting like it’s the norm. How could you type this just before literally citing the most extreme forms of the examples I gave? Do you actually believe that society limits their definitions of things like “the male gaze” to “leering and looking a woman up and down”? Come the fuck on man. The entire issue is the most benign example of those things are labeled to throw them into the same bucket. It’s similar to how “sexual assault” i…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 08:26 PM
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This is accelerationism and I (as a liberal) can’t get behind it because the side effects are people like Trump undermining things like unions, affordable health care and social safety nets at best and, well, democracy itself at worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 08:23 PM
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To some extent but perhaps you are unaware of the myriad of ways physical requirements have been either done away with are specifically lowered for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 08:21 PM
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It’s called cognitive dissonance. It’s the same reason women tell men who ask to do A, B and C when in reality they are only attracted to men who do X, Y and Z. Women won’t say they want X, Y and Z either because they are unaware of it or because it “looks bad” to say it out loud. Thus, women can claim “men are bad” while simultaneously selecting those men for dating and sex. Their lack of desire to “have a son” because “men bad” is in no way incompatible with this in any case
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 08:20 PM
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So your argument is basically… “Bootstraps” No empathy, no societal reflection, no programs to help in any areas. Just “huh huh do better losers!” This is not an original take. Also claiming that the citing of leaving behind half the population as socially corrosive comes off as a veiled threat indicates somebody is drunk off the gynocentric kool aid. It’s like saying “Impoverished community X needs to just fix themselves or die. I don’t care why they are all selling drugs and in prison. Not MY …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 08:16 PM
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If you’re not nice to us, why should we be nice to you? Wait, is this a road you think women really want to go down?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 08:11 PM
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Oh yes, the old classic “why don’t you make your own space?!?!” This graphic pretty much sums up what happens with that: <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 08:10 PM
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Western society idolizes toxic versions of masculinity You’re close here, but the real foundational reason is far simpler: Women sexually reward males who exhibit these traits (while denying they do so) and thus men continue to engage in the behavior they believe will result in the highest likelihood of satisfying the most fundamental existential drive. If women chose to fuck guys who could do handstands, the sidewalks would be filled with men walking on their hands tomorrow.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 08:06 PM
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So wait, are men “responsible” for all those breast cancer deaths? Is that why we have a months of pink baseball bats, cleats and basketball shoes?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 08:03 PM
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Guys, I tried. Some people just can’t be reached.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 08:01 PM
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If you are seriously asking this question in 2024, there really is no point engaging with you. But if it helps, there’s, you know, an entire actual article that I linked to in the post you’re replying to. Maybe you could start there?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 07:59 PM
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This is a great insight and very much a part of what’s happening to men right now: Their innate advantage (physical strength) is all but useless outside of sports now basically since the Industrial Revolution. There was a bit of a place left for male physicality and grunt work but technology has all but eliminated that as well. Meanwhile, reproduction, women’s innate advantage is untouched. Men get less valuable as women become more valuable. Combine this with women’s propensity to only date “up…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 07:57 PM
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You can’t be serious. A man appreciating the female form is now “the male gaze” Men affectionately ballbusting each other is now “bullying” Men being lonely and having sexual desire is now “entitlement” A man flirting with a woman is now “harassment” A man dating a woman who is lesser advantaged in any way is now “coercion” and “manipulation” A man trying to help a woman change her tire is now “mansplaining” A man sitting on the fucking bus is “manspreading” A man being a hero in a movie, tv sho…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 07:51 PM
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At no point do I say that And yet … The only people who believe that are the people clinging to toxic masculinity for whatever reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 07:44 PM
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Nah. It’s all window dressing. The gay community has a word for this: “🌈Rainbow Washing 🏳️‍🌈” Apple and Disney are great examples of this. When was the last time you saw just some white guy in any Apple promo? Last I can really remember is the old “I’m a Mac / I’m a PC” ads. Now I challenge you to find some promo content that isn’t a mocha skinned androgynous “BIPOC” with a frizzy Afro showing her “life partner” how to use iMovie. Now look at their actual leadership. You may get blinded by the b…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 07:39 PM
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So that’s your answer? “Oh well, nothing women can do about it!” Could you imagine if society responded to women’s issues in the same way? “What’s that got to do with men? Tough shit” Have you seen male sports during breast cancer month? 🎀🎀🎀
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 07:34 PM
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Well, yes I see what you’re getting at, but the funny mustache guy’s trajectory was far more complex than that, and required a number of serendipitous things to happen to create the conditions in which that shift took place. There is increasingly one element in place: the disaffected and listless male population, but we aren’t in the aftermath of a humiliating national defeat on the world stage, an economic depression nor are there countless war veterans fighting in the streets. However, having …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 07:31 PM
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This is a terminally online take. I’ll reiterate the point of the article since you just demonstrated the point in real time: such wanton attacks on and wholesale dismissal of boys and men only perpetuate and normalize a reactivity that’s uncritical and self-pitying.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 07:24 PM
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While you’re absolutely correct the more overt and vitriolic misandry is observed on the internet, I’d say this is only because general decorum is so different in face to face interactions. In reality, women can talk about true stories of men getting their dicks cut off to raucous applause, physically and mentally abuse men while passersby laugh and create media which casts men in the worst light possible while being praised. Hell, there was the story of a school full of boys that were forced to…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 07:21 PM
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So wait, in your world, the only people who believe that completely normal male behavior is being overly pathologized are only doing so because they themselves are engaging in “toxic masculinity”? What kind of circular pretzel logic is this?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 07:17 PM
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Actually your reply illustrates another fundamental issue here. Women seem to largely be unable to separate dispassionate analysis or benign analogies without getting “triggered” and considering things “threats” You see, you interpreted my analysis of things like the Iranian Revolution and other similar phenomena as some kind of a veiled threat, when to any objective reader it should be obvious it was simply a historical perspective. It is something Scott Galloway brings up in almost every discu…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 07:14 PM
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That’s awesome. It’s crazy how two people can enable / promote the crazy in each other but the separately those same people are totally sane and healthy human beings. And yeah, I forgot to say, I was also no paragon of mental health the times I was with these women, so there’s that. It took several years of picking up pretty hand grenades and pulling the pin to realize, maybe that habit was indicative of a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 06:42 PM
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Same. Oddly, I feel the “crazy sex” thing can often be like porn in that it’s a massive novelty spike at first and then it just hits a brick wall when you’ve done every crazy thing possible a hundred times. It’s the old hedonic treadmill thing. But still, it’s no mystery why certain types of chicks get a guy’s dick hard over others.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 06:26 PM
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You’re not wrong, but there’s a reason men have the saying “the crazy ones fuck the best” It’s goddamn true. Another saying that is pretty funny but somehow captures the appeal of skinny women is “skinny women are the hottest because they’re all pussy” 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 06:17 PM
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TIL wanting a physically fit woman in bed is a “fetish” 😂 Welcome to the logical results of 21st century “Body Positivity” and “Fat Acceptance”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 06:15 PM
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Why do you think skinny people have great sex and curvier people can’t? If by “curvier” you mean fat, fat women are terrible sex partners IME. The smell worse, they can’t be as acrobatic, they can’t be tossed around / positioned. They can’t ride as well, their bodies are a nightmare of slop and flab. No thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 06:14 PM
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FFS, women on PPD are never going to self report any bad behavior because it doesn’t serve the “women are wonderful” narrative and would serve to “give ammunition to the other side (RP)” Also because women are innately incapable of admitting to any negative or less than virtuous act that doesn’t, somehow, someway have men as a very obvious scapegoat. Women see themselves as the victim in every scenario, so the few times you can get women to openly admit to doing bad things it’s almost always “I …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 05:16 PM
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I don't care about "Chad." I simply date men I like who fit my criteria. Yes, you do, and that man is Chad to you. Why do women have such a hard time with this concept? I never said I don't want to look good TO men. I said I don't wear makeup and dress up as a competition for them. So, not a competition for them, just a competition for their attention. Take this one step further - “I want to look good to men and possibly to the one man I am attracted to so I have a higher chance of getting him t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 05:06 PM
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First I want you to think about why you’re even using a term like “The Male Gaze™” That’s your first clue that you may be speaking from a place of indoctrination and an ideology that has pathologized a completely normal behavior among mammals in the name of casting a negative negative aspersion on a single gender. What this does is evident in your question, which boils down to “men make us do it!” which, as should be obvious, is one (of many) trains of thought that stop women from reflecting on …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 04:55 PM
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This is dead on. Masculine guys are more the Don Draper type of pseudo nihilist “yeah, those people over there are assholes, but we’re all assholes anyway” types. I have no idea what a stereotypical “conservative” masculine guy is supposed to look like. Lifted truck and confederate hat? Ben Shapiro, Alex Jones, Jordan Peterson? Some raging “Proud Boy” type? No way. I could see putting a guy like Bill Burr in the masculine category and he’s pretty apolitical. Oddly, Joe Rogan at one time probably…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 09:20 AM
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The data do not support this assertion, terp dogma notwithstanding. Wait, you seriously think the data doesn’t support women finding the vast majority men of their own age cohort unattractive? Are you fucking serious? The cumulative amount of studies and data sets from countless academic studies, analyzing women’s actual behavior via OLD analytics, women’s self reported claims of seeing maybe 1 or 2 attractive men a week in their lives and common fucking sense will tell you that. How tf is this …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 07:26 AM
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This entire thread is a materclass of women’s ability to gaslight even themselves. The whole “I wear it for meeee” is such a surface level rudimentary and ultimately self serving understanding of one’s own behavior it should be blatantly obvious how much women are hamstering to twist something we all know is obvious into some high minded virtue. Like, you can’t even take a couple more steps of logic? I do it for myself Why? Because I like it. Why? Because I feel sexy? Why? … etc They KNOW the en…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 04:39 AM
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It’s quite hilarious to see the hamstering happening in real time. You know for a fact she didn’t think about the fact that she had just posted an intellectually incompatible take before this and the attempt at making a “we do it for us but you benefit from it, so pay” is Trumpian in its absurdity. The quality of the FDS style trolls on this sub has really declined. Also, men, take note - do you see any other women calling this insanity out? Nope. Nope you don’t. Just a few agreeing. That, kids,…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 04:28 AM
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Men are easy to get. Chad isn’t, and every woman is trying to “look her best” on the off chance she encounters whatever her version of a Chad happens to be. Women “feel good” in makeup because they innately know they’ve artificially hacked their looks to bump their league up a couple of points. I love male attention but that's because I love likes on my hot selfies. It's not to please them but to validate my wants. “I don’t love men, I just love their attention” This is some lightspeed hamsterin…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 04:18 AM
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“I do this for myself as a hobby” “You should pay for my food and drinks because of my hobby” Sure. No contradiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 04:13 AM
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Once again, women don’t think 95% of 21 Year Olds are “attractive and fit.” You are clearly in your mind comparing some Tik Tok influencer type or athlete with some stereotype of a “creepy old guy”. The rest of your screed indeed sounds unhinged. Let people fuck who they want and worry about your own shit and you’ll live longer. As far as your straw men, yes, you know when we are talking about older attractive men we are discussing outliers by definition 23 could compare somebody like a young Jo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 02:52 AM
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Good for you. Are you going to cite old men who rape literal babies next? Because that is also a thing that happens. The very fact that you’re trying to conflate your greasy, sausage fingered, horse shoe bald, beer bellied, wife beater with a mustard stain wearing 60 year old straw men with an “attractive and fit 40 year old man dating a 21 year old woman” with… whatever the fuck you’re talking about should tell you something about how unhinged your arguments are.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 09:35 PM
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That must be news to the several much younger women I’ve had sex with in dated over the years. I’m sure they’ll be shocked to hear how “gross” it was. Even the ones that pursued me aggressively. In any case, just change “older men” to any other category and you’ll still be right. Why? Because, news flash, women find less than 20% of men of any age unattractive. They find a myriad of things “gross”, and age is a single one. Also, I was told women “are not a monolith” Is this true or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 05:58 AM
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Don’t disagree with you, but I’m mainly saying that a certain type of “stereotypical” young girl (ie 21 year old college cheerleader) is more likely to see a large age gap as “creepy and weird” whereas a more unconventional young girl (21 year old international art student) is going to see the world much differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 07:24 PM
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Just say ugly men. Women hate when any man she sees as “beneath” her hits on her. Stop acting like it’s about age. If prime Clooney hits on the 21 year old Barista, you think she’s gonna be “grossed out”?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 05:36 PM
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What’s also hilarious is how many girls use this same formula to “warn girls about age gap relationships!” They almost always end up with the same reasoning “well, when I was younger I had an age gap relationship and he did X, Y and Z!!” Sure, Jan. Sure he did. Just like the musician, the lawyer and the athlete you dated did.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 05:30 PM
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It’s anecdotal but I can say my personal life trajectory has shown you absolutely can most certainly bang hot, younger women as you get older provided you stay fit, fun and fashionable. You generally won’t be dating the college girl going to sorority parties and doing “rush week”, you’ll be dating the introverted math misfit, the art school emo chick, the baby stripper or the barista who is trying to “find herself” or whatever (I’ve dated all of these) The blonde Stacy banging the QB will most d…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 05:22 PM
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At this point, with the myriad of studies showing a huge gap between what women say and what they do sexually, I think we can safely conclude that women “self reporting” on their sexual preferences and virtue is about as useful as useful as a politician “self reporting” on their moral character.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 05:38 PM
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Exactly, or the easily observable phenomenon that occurs when one guy in a friend group is known for having a big dick. I have experienced at least 3 friend groups in which, upon hearing about “so and so has a huge dick”, several women in the friends group had fucked the guy within about a month to “try it out” Are they all “size queens”? No. Would they all throw away their life goals just to take a ride? Also no. But, many women will absolutely go feral, break their dating “rules” and debase th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 05:33 PM
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lol this except should generate some fun threads: One reason many younger women chose to date older men is due to their maturity, greater emotional intelligence, and relationship experience. Financial resources matter too, but they are no replacement for being able to communicate effectively or set and respect boundaries. Critically, experience also bestows men with a sense of confidence, an essential dating commodity. Men entering the dating market with more years of relationship experience are…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 05:26 PM
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Find/Replace “Guy” with “Chad” Fixed.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 10:55 PM
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Women don't expect men to read our minds. They tell you exactly what they want and how they want
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 10:38 PM
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Riiight. “Responsibilities” as women define them which essentially mean “read my mind and do what I want without me saying so or I’ll throw a hissy fit” Women are the ones who cry in the bathroom because Susan in HR got the same dress for the Christmas party as her and go home and tell her husband how “Susan trying to destroy me! 😭” But sure let’s pretend women aren’t know for cultivating drama. That stereotype just came out of thin air huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 07:52 PM
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How is this argument any different than “movies -and video games create violent kids”? This shit was happening with comic books ffs. Anti porn / no fail weirdos are up there with vegans and cyclist in terms of how they try to conflate things with a mostly benign social phenomenon. Social MEDIA has far more destructive elements than beating your dick to Asa Akira.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 07:49 PM
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You missed the part where they lie, gaslight and deny they do this which is the real source of getting “mad” Because women’s duplicity on the matter is creating a generation of confused simps who seek answers. Hence: The Red Pill
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 07:08 PM
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If you think the ubiquity of porn is responsible for women wanting big dicks you are obviously under 20 and have no clue what you’re talking about. Women having fantasies of being “ravished” predates the fucking telegraph.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 06:33 PM
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lol women are far more likely to actively sabotage relationships by cultivating drama. It’s called being “passive aggressive” and it’s a way of life for many (possibly most) women when they get bored in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 06:31 PM
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Taking a term with an intended meaning and obfuscating it so as to weaponize it. See also: Patriarchy White Supremacy Cultural Appropriation Colonizing Genocide Sexual Assault Coercion Consent Fascist / Communist All words that are routinely perverted and diluted to ridiculous degrees to serve whatever emotional and pretzel logic argument being made at any given time.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 06:25 PM
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lol no. Those rape fantasies come from women all by themselves. Yet, I never hear women being called “porn sick” for having fantasies involving the most depraved (and criminal) act. Funny that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 06:17 PM
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Women determine what genes get propagated, so in a round about way they are, in fact, “eugenicists” I’m not even saying there’s a moral component here, but let’s not act like women don’t choose which men get to spread their genes.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 02:10 AM
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Bullshit. That’s not how it works. You can be “entitled” to a given outcome in any given situation. It doesn’t matter who you “blame” And if it was, how the ever loving fuck are you going to say women are less entitled than men when it’s women who blame “men” for countless ailments (real and imagined) in their life?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 09:57 PM
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squeezing your ass after a good date is not assault You might want to tell this to the countless women on Reddit who call this exact scenario “sexual assault” because “I froze and didn’t know what to do” etc You’re acting like the current mainstream zeitgeist is to give the man the benefit of the doubt which is fucking laughable.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 09:55 PM
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If you want to see what entitlement looks like, turn a woman down for sex. The contorted and incredulous look of hurt, anger and confusion on her face should appear next to the definition of the word. In reality, “entitlement” is almost always a phenomenon observed among those who are used to obtaining certain things with ease, but unexpectedly have them denied. It’s the pretty girl not being let into the club, the Chad being told no sex, the rich kid being told they can’t afford it. It is not t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:52 PM
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You just described every woman’s complaint about the “wage gap” and “gender discrimination”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:43 PM
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Hey everybody, It’s yet another thread showing women gleefully confirming things that RP has asserted for years solely because the phenomenon was framed in a way to make the woman look good and the man look clueless and immature. It’s crazy how women will absolutely agree with 99% of shit RP says provided you present it in a way that makes women look good. Eg “emotional” versus “emotionally expressive”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:41 PM
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Women like dominant, confident, stoic, good looking, ambitious, courageous, charming, masculine men. I was told “women are not a monolith” and that “consent is sexy” I guess that changes on whether it’s convenient to women’s current argument. Shocker.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:30 PM
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Bullshit. She would be telling her friends how he “sexually assaulted” her and that “just because I kissed doesn’t mean I consented to be groped!” Meanwhile the hamsters in this thread are using their usual “read the room” argument. Why can’t women maintain a shred of logical consistency / intellectual honesty here?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:27 PM
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It’s would be hilarious if it wasn’t so sad. Women will absolutely do a 180 on their position so long as the said position results in “huh huh man dumb and wrong! go team women!” These are not serious people.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:26 PM
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I love how this thread is full of women who can’t for the life of them understand (especially younger) men becoming extremely trepidatious when escalating things sexually when a fucking errant kiss / assertive pass is called “sexual assault” / “coercion” by so many women. Then you have the whole “well you got the green light” argument. Yeah, let’s just forget the whole “just because I said yes to X doesn’t mean I want Y!” mantra. The fact that women are incapable of displaying a shred of underst…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:23 PM
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You’ve got your fellow women loudly screaming about how this is “sexual assault!1!1” to thank for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:18 PM
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Those men aren’t told they should “never settle” or that they “deserve nothing less” than a Ferrari. Also, your insistence on this fictional straw man 40 year old demanding an 18 has grown tiresome. In reality, a man of any age will prefer the hottest woman whose company he actually enjoys. It just so happens that you get often correlates to hotter and more pleasant to be around. It’s literally that simple. What’s far more common is women calling a man in his late 30’a a “groomer” for dating a 2…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 06:28 AM
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Yeah, another mental titan on PPD playing the “let me continue to straw man increasingly absurd examples until I win an argument nobody made” In the last episode: 18 year old daring 40+ year old In this episode: prepubescent teens dating near adults. Can’t wait to see what you come up with next. Shall I retort by saying “every woman demands a 7 foot male model billionaire with a 10 inch dick”? because that’s the kind of return your argument deserves. Credit for skipping over the whole “mUh undev…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:50 AM
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So wait, the “problem” is now that the famous sisterly uplifting gassing up is “disingenuous” or “there’s a subtext”? Lol This shit is up there with “yes women have far more choices in dating, but they aren’t the choices we *want*!!!” 😩 Yeah, that’s not a real problem. Cry me a fucking river.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:38 AM
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At the very least, it’s crystal clear evidence that being a woman has an in built connotation of “good” and “virtuous” and the appeals to tribalism and the “women are wonderful” effect. It’s praising a goddamn innate trait or half of humanity as some kind of “cause” to support.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:35 AM
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Tell that to your sisters who can’t seem to (ever) help themselves from jumping in with their problems whenever men’s problems are discussed. “Everybody has unique problems?” No shit … But we can’t even discuss a simple obvious concept like men not receiving unearned praise the way women do without women jumping into this thread claiming how said praise and social coddling is somehow “just as bad in its own way”? Are do you also think women don’t tend to play “oppression Olympics” more than men?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:32 AM
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lol this shell game horse shit cliche doesn’t work anymore and in fact the “equality feels like oppression” is what women are experiencing themselves. You see, It’s not “equality” women demand, it’s absolute supremacy and preferential / deferential treatment in every regard (social, legal, professional). When modern women complain that they aren’t being “treated equal to men” it’s almost always because they are. See: the bitching of just about every female professional sports league and the utte…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:58 PM
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Why do I believe women are told that they are “kweens” and “sexy at any size” and “‘never settle” while men are told they are “toxic” and have terms like “small dick energy” and “short man’s complex” thrown at them while being constantly told to “do better”? Because it’s fucking reality If you are living on some planet where women’s feelings aren’t coddled and men are treated with the same kid gloves then congratulations. Here on earth, that is not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:18 PM
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You’re not operating in anything resembling objective reality or proportion, so I’m gonna bounce from this exchange.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 10:39 PM
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This is like saying “*both sides have problems with cat calling and sexualization due to our current culture!” while knowing full well that women face cat calls and sexualization to such a greater and more severe degree as to make the comparison absurd. The exact same imbalance is the case when trying to compare men being told to “be better” and that they “ain’t shit” , “the bar is on the floor” and “that’s the bare minimum” and whatever other hundred insults that are direct only at men by mains…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 10:34 PM
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You tried to “both sides” something that, as you well know, is utterly one sided. The fact that you tried to spin “body positivity” as “Akshually it makes it harder for women!” should make any reasonable person face palm.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 10:27 PM
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Yup. And then these same women screech at men for daring to date women in other countries who actually think they are good enough. It’s another in a long list of reasons that 90% or western women are an utter nightmare to date, let alone marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 10:22 PM
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FFS. “Yes women receive more support, validation and encouragement, but that is actually somehow worse than men being actively and openly told they are shit and need to do better at every turn” Women really will spin anything into “we are the REAL victims!”” won’t they?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 10:21 PM
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you have.a huge arse issue. date anyone you want who is willing to date you, just don't shame anybody. Pick one.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 10:17 PM
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So your response to me asking (in good faith) to tell me if you see a difference between something being acceptable and common in “mainstream society” versus “on here” was to present a straw man example of male standards. Thank you sincerely for letting me know you are not interested in anything resembling a productive discussion here. It saves us both a lot of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 10:56 PM
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*all over the social media ghettos that I peruse to stroke my rage boner but literally nowhere in mainstream discourse which shits on men as a matter of course. FTFY
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 10:54 PM
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In a situation like this you’re always going to be better off when you “risk creepy” Coming off like a timid, sackless wonder is going to friendzone you 100% of the time. Showing you’re a man who “goes for it” is always better.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 09:39 PM
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You seem to be saying that women hate on men's desires but celebrate women's. Yes this is correct and anybody with eyes and ears in 2024 knows this is factually correct when it comes to the mainstream zeitgeist. Women can and do loudly and publicly in mainstream channels shit on men and frame women’s behavior as worthy of praise or, at the very worst, justified misandry. Are women not often criticized around here Simple question: What do you think the difference is between the two examples you j…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 09:37 PM
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In general the only people concerned about your preferences are people who want to date you. Saying "I like them young" does sound creepy Saying "No fatties" does makes you sound like a tactless asshole. Saying "I prefer agreeable women" makes you sound like a republican. There’s that famous female self awareness 😂 “Nobody cares what you like! Now listen while I shame all of your preferences!” Meanwhile, women publicly shit on men like a Tourette’s tick and are celebrated by other women for thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 09:34 PM
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You can desire whatever you want. The issue isn’t desire it’s entitlement. Bullshit. This only applies to women and we all know it. It has nothing to do with “entitlement”. In fact, I’d argue that women are far more entitled with their “never settle 💅” mantra. Just about every desire or preference men have are labeled as toxic and “problematic”. A man prefers younger women? “Pedo, Groomer, Creep” A man prefers slim women? “Fatphobic, pornsick, superficial” A man prefers agreeable women? “Can’t h…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 08:40 PM
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The one (and only) explanation I’ve heard for this that made any sense is this: “I wait to sleep with the guys I truly like because it will hurt much more if he pumps and dumps me.” As guys, we always have the “doesn’t matter; had sex” fallback, but women do not have this consolation. If they are gambling with a high chance or a P&D, it does make sense from an emotional perspective for women to be more cautious with guys they “like” If Chad the Douchebag who she met at the foam party doesn’t cal…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 08:12 PM
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Ever notice how when women try to use the term “Fuckboy” as an insult, it is always in reference to some hot guy that they have sex with but who won’t commit to her? It should be telling that this is basically women’s only insult for sexually successful men. Their insults for sexually unsuccessful men are countless.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 10:12 PM
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Have women ever stopped undemanding all of their self serving one-directional requirements for men? Didn’t think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 09:34 PM
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Right. But the man sure as hell better still better be assertive, confident and proactive “Daddy Cash Butler” right?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 09:32 PM
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When you reach this state, you will literally be beating women off of you with a baseball bat This is a fucking utter delusion only a woman could have. Every man knows countless “just fine on his own” types who happily play video games and hang out with his nerdy friends for board game nights. Guess how many dates those guys are getting? 95% of the men around you are crying in their diapers that nobody loves them Oh there it is. I knew this misandrist drivel was coming. Man, I love when women ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 09:27 PM
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lol This is exactly how a failed relationship stars. When you think everything “perfect” you’re either still in the honeymoon phase or being willfully blind.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 09:21 PM
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Holy shit. I never thought of it like that but you’re right. All the times I’ve tried to “fix” things it simply provided the girl a little more time to swing to a “better” branch.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 09:13 PM
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The only thing I’ve seen work is dread and women hate it because I believe to some degree they know it works. It’s hard for a woman to leave a guy they are super jealous of getting attention from others because it makes them question their own decision in classifying you as worth leaving. Truth fucking Bomb Women here will either deny this or claim it’s “manipulative” but, in reality, it’s merely evening the score in regards to the passive dread all women engage in (with plausible deniability of…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 09:05 PM
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I dont see why that matters when men are more dangerous and more likely to repeat said crime I dare you to do an experiment here. Insert ANY other group in place of “men” and see how you sound. Go ahead.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 05:40 PM
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Look above you. There are a few male simp- oh excuse me “posters” on this sub that will consistently outright deny any advantage women have, hand waive away any “problematic” behavior they have and try to rationalize the demonization of men as “inherently violent and dangerous” These are the same guys all over this sub defending the “I choose the bear” position.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 05:38 PM
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To be fair, you’re dunking on a midget. But you’re still dunking.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 05:12 PM
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Women claim to be above this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 07:40 AM
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Oh lovely, we have yet another data set to prove what we already knew despite having seen this time and time again in other polls and, you know, actual life experience. My personal favorite data point is the combination of women saying “whoever does the asking out should pay!” and then a couple of questions later “number of times women have done any asking out? basically zero” 😂 Also the well over half of women who START even considering a man for dating once his height is a good 3 inches above …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 07:35 AM
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it is hard to be left when the left hates men. Man. I relate to this so much. It’s really been a struggle at certain points and it sucks because it shouldn’t be. The left is absolutely in a “circular figuring squad” in so many ways right now and it’s often depressing. The “we pick the bear” types here often have NO idea how much damage they are doing to their own cause (see: Overturning of Roe because “both sides” are misogynists or something) Anyway it sounds like you’ll be ok. Having as much s…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 09:38 PM
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A big issue is these types come here with an axe to grind and with a singular mission “dunk on those red pill misogynists” at *all** costs. Logical contingency, good faith discussion and common sense go right out the window in the service of the “greater good” which (in their mind) is to portray men in a bad light Like I said, your best bet is to look at the user names first and realize these are borderline “career posters” here with various motivations propelling them forward in their obsession…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 07:03 PM
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I say this as a man who is a pro-choice feminist - this strategy sucks and isn't working, and it hasn't worked for 10+ years. 100% I am a lifelong liberal. I’ve worked to get democrats elected since Clinton (Bill) and am basically the only male in my family. While I’ll always prioritize the wellbeing and safety of women in my family, I can safely say, on a general political policy level, women can get fucked if they expect me to lift a finger for them. The worse is, like you, I’m 100% pro choice…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 06:52 PM
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Exactly. This topic more than any other has shown how nakedly bad faith, unhinged and hysterical various posters on PPD are. They literally go mask off with this subject and it’s fucking hilarious how little self awareness they have when it comes to the way the speak. Just watch their heads explode when you attempt to have them play their little thought experiment with literally any other group besides the very safely demonized generic “men” Oh and then these same brilliant minds wonder why more…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 06:32 PM
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Hey, assholes on this sub that defend this “man worse than bear” horseshit: You want to see the kind of brain rot your mentality causes? Read the above. Feel good about yourselves? Your virtue signaled enough? Do you really think you are doing anything than stroking the same hate boner that every “ist” and “phobe” does? You are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 06:23 PM
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it is you who deflects away from the constant and consistent issue of misandry because you either cannot accept or refuse to accept that misandry is a real issue. You just described 5-6 regular posters on this sub. Learn who they are and to ignore their utterly useless, boring and predictable takes and you’ll get more value from discussions here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 06:18 PM
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So the stats are “bad” or “worse”. Yeah sounds like a reason to avoid being with a person that makes you happy at all costs. 😂 “You know, hotter, friendlier, more fun girl, I would date you but there’s this bitchy, combative and less hot older woman over here and the stats say I should go with her. Sorry, I’ll pass”
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 04:56 PM
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sexual options is not power
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 10:30 PM
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TIL a 21 year old is a “child” You bedroom police can’t help yourselves from these dumb ass arguments can you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 07:28 PM
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that’s entirely different Because … “reasons” It’s not fucking different. Being an “adult” in rural Japan is completely different than being an “adult” in Manhattan in terms of the way you navigate life and things you need to be savvy about. Then of course you go on to vomit out some shit about “patriarchal societies” to show why “this country is problematic, but not that one” Western Paternalism / Cultural Imperialism at work can. Save those poor, dumb brown women. For they know not what they d…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 07:27 PM
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Tf does that have to do with the “women my age know I’m a loser” argument you made?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 07:24 PM
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You’ve said nothing to show that your entire thought process is any different than a racist saying “watch out when dating [race X] who tends to date [race Y] because [insert a bunch of scare mongering anecdotes]”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 07:22 PM
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It’s because women tend to start from a place of emotions and then build a narrative around that picking and choosing facts that support those emotions. It’s the entire basis of the “I choose the bear” meme.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 07:20 PM
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It’s incredible how rare this kind of story is on this sub,m I regards to age gap relationships but how common this story is IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 07:17 PM
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I mean at least you’re getting close to consistency with this response. Or maybe you forgot “men” couldn’t “vote” in the early days of the US, but only land owning men who had a stake in the game. The basic principle that governed voting in colonial America was that voters should have a "stake in society." Leading colonists associated democracy with disorder and mob rule, and believed that the vote should be restricted to those who owned property or paid taxes. Only these people, in their view, …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 07:15 PM
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It’s relevant because I promise you don’t use the scamming younger person’s age as some incriminating factor and evidence enough for you look at them with suspicion for working in sales (for example). Why though? They are likely sharper and more savvy about their particular grift. It’s the same with hotter younger women with endless options and offers of money from simps dating a regular older urban professional guy who works long hours to maintain his lifestyle. They are both attractive, and at…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 07:11 PM
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QFT. It’s the same type that complains about “slut shaming” and walks side by side at a pride parade with an older leather clad gay “bear” and his younger boy toy twink on a leash while she holds a “🏳️‍🌈Love Is Love!🏳️‍🌈” sign.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 07:05 PM
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How tf does this “life stages” argument even make sense? What if two people are from completely different cultures, racial or financial backgrounds? Their “life experience” will by definition be utterly different in countless ways. Are you against those too?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 07:03 PM
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the power imbalance of a young naive woman who's brain is still developing How the fuck do people say this out loud and not see how utterly infantilizing and degrading it is? 😂 Old enough to: Vote, die in combat, drink themselves into oblivion, drive a 6000lbs SUV, get themselves into a lifetime of crippling debt. NOT old enough to: Fuck an older adult. Like, seriously, these same people call men “misogynists” and then turn around and say this without a shred of irony.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 06:59 PM
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Ah yes another woman who actually thinks it’s easier for a man to date / fuck women much younger than himself because “women his own age don’t want him” This is my favorite fairy tale women tell themselves. It’s so nakedly self serving and delusional. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 06:55 PM
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“I hate them so much I did it twice” ~anti age gap women everywhere 😂 This is up there with “never date musicians! I should know! I’ve dated 12 of them!”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 06:52 PM
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Let me guess, by “power” you only mean money and physical strength and not sexual options and ability to manipulate those around them? If an older man has his own apartment, is in debt, works slavishly at his job in fear of a lay off, and is in his first relationship in years after being suicidal or lonely but the younger woman has none of that but has 50k in the bank, 5 guys offering to shower her in cash and can date any number of high status attractive men at the drop of a hat… Who really has…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 06:48 PM
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I’d also argue it’s about attitude and demeanor as well. Younger women tend to be more open minded and free spirited which many men like. Just like how men get to the jaded “crotchety old man” phase later in life, women get to the “cunty bitter woman” phase, but women tend to reach that stage much earlier than men IME.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 06:46 PM
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We don't need to demonize people for choosing someone we personally see as not ideal. Younger women are not all gold diggers for being with someone older and the notion that older men are inherently predatory and manipulative for being into younger women is harmful imo. It’s not about that. It’s about “heteronormative” (and usually white) men being the last acceptable target for every remaining “ist” and “ism” in the west. I guarantee you half these age gap crusaders would walk hand in hand with…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 06:44 PM
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Imagine making a blanket statement saying: “I am just disgusted by [insert race X] intermarrying with [insert race Y] so we agree to disagree.” with zero nuance or individual consideration. Now imagine doing that unapologetically and in fact framing it as virtue or “concern” That is you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 06:40 PM
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Imagine saying: “I am just disgusted by [insert race X] intermarrying with [insert race Y] so we agree to disagree.”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 06:37 PM
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Women always forget this (and the extremely high divorce rate in general) when they bring this up. They think this because they think giving Billy Beta 20 years of starfish sex after “settling” for him is doing him a favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 06:35 PM
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Wait till you hear that even women’s supposed “same life stage” perfect age gap marriages have a 50% divorce rate. 😂 So, in the end, it’s at best a coin toss. You may as well choose the situation in which you are both most happy for a reasonable period rather of time rather than deluding yourself that “this is forever”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 06:34 PM
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Says the gender that chooses “The Bear” 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 06:49 AM
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Men don’t redpill men; women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 03:54 AM
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Woman (Talking to meek nerd who awkwardly asked her out and made her “uncomfortable”) “Stop being entitled, Billy! This is the problem with you men! It’s just like that time I got really drunk and that hot douchey frat boy that I had been flirting with all night ‘took advantage’ of me. Sure, HE was drunk too, and I was grabbing his dick and making out with him all night, but, in hindsight I didn’t want to do that. He raped me. As the man, he should have known better than to give in to my hornine…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 10:31 PM
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“man”
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 10:12 PM
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Women: I choose The Bear! TeeHee 💅 Also Women: Mum, the bear is eating me! Mum, it’s such agony. Mum, help! Her mother Tatiana said that at first she thought she was joking. 'But then I heard the real horror and pain in Olga’s voice, and the sounds of a bear growling and chewing,' she added. 'I could have died then and there from shock.' Moskalyova and her stepfather, Igor Tsyganenkov, were camping near a river in Russia when the mother bear attacked him. It reportedly broke his neck and smashed…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 10:09 PM
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Lmao only a woman would cite “fear” as tantamount to an attack. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 09:45 PM
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Tell that to the tons of people dating "above their league" I would… If I knew any of these “tons” of people. They only seem to exist in internet anecdotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 10:36 AM
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Somebody was attacked and killed by [insert minority group here] …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 11:50 PM
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Or maybe…it’s just that women are more likely to take selfies due to them being social vapid and narcissistic creatures FTFY
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 11:48 PM
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Half the women I know hop on nice boats with guys they might not even know Ohhh, HELLO! Sorry didn’t mean to scare you there. I’m The Daiquiri Man.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 11:45 PM
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Yeah that’s not how it works. It doesn’t count for the pudgy dad-bodded “hubby” who looks like Paul Blart who gets bossed around by his harpie wife who also fucks hotter guys behind his back. It counts for the guy who is reasonably attractive and has one or more hot gfs in a relationship where the girl is TRULY into him.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 10:51 PM
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They forget that husband is elite status. whaT? Maybe 50+ years ago. But In 2024 “Husband” is “elite” Maybe the high status “one sided open relationship” husbands are considered elite, but a normal dutiful husband is considered a chump with the modern deal he’s given by women and society. TF kind of delusion is this?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 10:44 PM
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Oh FFS, really? “Being Fat isn’t really unhealthy!” Should we talk about the rise of type 2 diabetes and Covid deaths with obesity as a comorbidity? Ah fuck it. Nevermind dude. No good faith to be had here. Contrarians like this are the absolute worst form of attention whores.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 09:08 PM
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Dude you are simply delusional if you think a cyclic burst of a bubble affected “dating” more than arguably the biggest existential paradigm shift of our generation. This would be like saying the advent of the printing press and the resulting rise in literacy wasn’t as important as that one season where the crop yields were bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 09:04 PM
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Literally every social scientist disagrees with your shit takes. The fact that you cite the “big change” that happened in 2007 as a real estate bust which resolved within a few years and the introduction of the fucking iPhone which represented a seismic paradigm shift in human existence should tell people all they need to know about your lack of perspective here.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 05:55 PM
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Are you actually trying to have shitty takes in this reply thread? <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 05:50 PM
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You clearly never watched Mad Men as plenty of men and women were alcoholics and flagrant sexual degenerates.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 05:45 PM
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This is the same kind of dating market that your parents met in. Most people still meet organically, most relationships don't start from online dating. <image> … you were saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 05:43 PM
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Would you rather be alone with a black man or a bear?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 09:07 AM
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Men like you are the reason women choose the bear. Ugh. This is gonna be women’s new cringey ass response for 2024 isn’t it? Replacing 2023’s: “Touch Grass” and 2022’s “Incel”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 08:04 AM
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So you are for the elimination of the Girl Scouts and other similar “safe spaces” for girls?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 07:19 AM
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What I’m saying is that, at the end of the day, highly desiring, valuing and pursuing sex is an immutable (short of mass castration) trait of the vast majority of heterosexual men. That. Won’t. Change. Now, understanding that, we must understand that men will behave in ways that create sexual success and, newsflash, THAT is based on what women respond favorably to. What women respond favorably to: emotionally resilient men, assertive men and men with leadership and generally masculine qualities.…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 07:13 AM
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While I agree with your assessment, the issue is that these aren’t borne out or “societal expectations” but out of human nature. Specifically, male and female human nature. The issue is that society loudly calls out men’s “unrealistic” and “problematic” expectations of women, and tells men to “do better” When women do this? It’s often applauded and treated as evidence that “men do indeed suck”. The other issue is that women give LIP service to what they think “real men” should do, but it’s often…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 05:50 AM
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How about “negative stereotypes” or “unrealistic expectations of men”? Or nah. That doesn’t have that all important “collective guilt” ring to it while letting women off the hook as mere victims that a word like “patriarchy” does, now does it?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 04:59 AM
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This is the same crowd that considers a white guy wearing dreads “cultural appropriation” and putting Abraham Lincoln’s name on a school “White Supremacy” so …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 04:58 AM
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Except what IS gendered is the “women are wonderful” effect which is weaponized by women frequently to evade accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 04:02 AM
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lol “women are not perfect angles and are fully as capable of lying as men are” now means … “Women are worse that wild murderous beasts” Sound logic there.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 04:01 AM
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FFS these agoraphobic, emotional hemophiliac women are still using this “poison m&m” nonsense? Do that with ANY other group. Go ahead. “I don’t know if you’re one of the good ones”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 03:59 AM
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Once again, I will say this: Insert ANY other category of human to this “I prefer the bear” mantra (race, religion, culture, etc) and say it out loud and see what a fucking piece of shit you sound like. That’s precisely what these salty martyr complex having cunts are doing without a shred of self awareness. Remember “Central Park Karen”? Hysterically calling the cops on the guy because he was taking photos of birds (while male and black), or the “DO NOT APPROACH ME!” woman? That’s precisely the…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 03:57 AM
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IT IS 2024 THERE IS NO FUCKING “PATRIARCHY”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 03:49 AM
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lol and just ignore that those “words chosen with purpose and intent” bear little resemblance to their actions?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 03:48 AM
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lol wait so saying women prefer tall handsome men is now tantamount to calling an entire gender worse than murderous wild animals? Thanks for proving how fucked in the head and gynocentric the world is.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 03:30 AM
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You’re not wrong. This is literally the only response this version of Char GPT seems to be capable off.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 03:13 AM
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Exactly. Watch how they define “rape” as “sex after consumption of alcohol”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 03:01 AM
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Are you pretending that theirs isn’t far closer to the dominant narrative than anything else?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 02:54 AM
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So when some men do “Bad Thing” you will say “men do bad things” not “some men in this sub category will do the bad things” not “a minority of men do the bad thing” just … “men do bad things” But when women do “Bad Thing” suddenly it’s “only low self esteem / damaged / traumatized” (insert any no accountability card here) do that bad thing!” How do women that say this shit not see what they are doing? It’s mind blowing. Men are assigned collective guilt and woman’s guilt is hyper individualized …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 02:32 AM
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So RP men aren’t getting their ideas about women “from nowhere” either now are they?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 02:25 AM
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Respect for at least acknowledging this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 01:23 AM
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Except they cite “diversity and inclusion” as their big motivation. Another male oriented organization basically castrated in the name of DEI. What a shock.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 10:39 PM
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Oh I see you moved the goalposts now from going to a place where your dating prospects are better to “score pussy while not giving AF about anything else” Very good faith argument. The reality is, 99% of people willing to uproot their life to live in another country are going to do more research than just “pussy”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 10:36 PM
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Lolwut? I just told you that I was married to a Japanese woman for years and integrated into that culture for years to the point where I could speak the language conversationally and made several trips to various areas of Japan that hardly any westerner goes, so tell me again how I “don’t know what I’m talking about”? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 10:32 PM
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Nobody has given a fuck about the Boy Scouts since 2010 I love how people think this is making some kind of point. The current relevancy of the organization isn’t the point. It’s the principle of neutering yet another in an ever shrinking number of male spaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 10:27 PM
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None. Western women go after western men with looks / money / status “leverage” as well. The implication that western women are somehow more pure, less vapid and superficial than those “poor gold digging Asians” is hilarious to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 07:31 PM
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I'm not white either This might explain why you think Asian women are “just like” western women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 07:29 PM
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I was married to a Japanese woman for years and have dated Korean, Filipina and Vietnamese women (both from the US and immigrants) Of course they are individuals and some have their personality issues, but claim they are “no different” from white western women proves you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 07:27 PM
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Virtue signalling nonsense. There is absolutely nothing wrong with considering whether a place is more favorable to your dating prospects when deciding where to travel.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 07:25 PM
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In other words, you have very low T / are asexual. Congratulations.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 07:23 PM
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I will vote for politicians who recognize that young men are in crisis and need programs to help them such as Obama’s “my brothers keeper” program which, unsurprisingly got massive pushbacks from (ahem) misandrist types who demanded to know “what about sisters???” I will support funding of schools and school board appointees that take the unique needs and learning styles of young men seriously. I will level with young men about the societal gaslighting they experience and the amount of virtue si…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 06:24 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 06:15 PM
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Holy shit that’s horrid, wow. Is this widely known? If it isn’t, this garbage take should be all over the news. As if “The News” doesn’t promote this take themselves. 😂 this is how the organization talks about the opposite gender. I just have to say, coming from the people who vociferously defend the “man is worse than bear” take and hose who post the most unhinged misandrist takes imaginable, it’s fucking hilarious that this is what caused some people to scratch their heads said and say “hmm, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 06:11 PM
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Don’t forget this classic: https://www.newsweek.com/boys-forced-apologize-female-classmates-behalf-gender-1578793
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 09:04 AM
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Toupee Fallacy A form of selection bias in which something is wrongly judged to be of poor quality in general, caused by the fact that most people only notice poor quality instances of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 04:03 AM
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Hoe Math already put this argument in its grave here. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 12:33 AM
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The whole “I don’t like makeup” and it’s close cousins “I don’t like fake boobs” and “I don’t like plastic surgery” is the closest thing I know the male exclusive virtue signaling. All they are saying is “I want a woman hot enough to look exceptional without makeup or surgery” Look at porn OF and IG models if you want to see what men by and large verify they like with their clicks and cash. Now; there are some women who look decidedly worse with certain makeup styles, but the male the asinine cl…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 12:14 AM
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lol come on man. A woman in your social group or work isn’t going to act out because she’s around people who already know her. Same as a man. No man is going to go “fuckin bitch” to a woman turning him down for a lunch date at work either. We’re talking about things like bars and parties where the connotation is likely overtly sexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 07:49 PM
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TIL: Women find writing “hey” and “hi” too much work. They now want the monkey to dance before they type two letters.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 07:29 PM
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Ok. Then maybe you should open with that instead of portraying your experiences as relevant to the discussion at hand which is clearly about women approaching men close to cold and with overt sexual interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 07:26 PM
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Then your stories have nothing to do with women “risking rejection” the way men do which is something closer to a “cold approach”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 07:25 PM
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Holy shit, did she? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 07:22 PM
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That hasn't been my experience. No offense, but you must not have much experience as there are countless stories of this on this sub and all of my male friends that are remotely attractive have similar stories. I will say, usually alcohol is involved in the more egregious stories, but I would also guess that alcohol is involved in women’s stories of men “freaking out” when rejected as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 07:05 PM
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Women are able to approach and handle rejection. Wrong. You seem to be only thinking of this in terms of “walk up and say hi and then walk away” It’s not usually like this for women. Usually it’s, walk up, decide they want to fuck the guy and they are so used to getting their way, they will literally just say to themselves “I’m going to fuck this guy tonight.” It’s after this point, once the plausible deniability of “I was just being friendly” is gone that the fireworks start. If a woman starts …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 07:01 PM
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You forgot “mattress girl” as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 06:49 PM
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Of course. So have I. On an individual level this is going to be seen. Anyway, as you said, there are methods of quantification (as in how many times a day do you think about sex) and every study ever done wasn’t close. Men think about it more and more spontaneously by a long shot
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 04:01 AM
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Do you have a single study that shows this? Because, rest assured there are countless social and scientific studies that show the opposite. Again, don’t argue with “not horny” and focus on the statement “just as horny as men”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 01:16 AM
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Who said “women don’t get horny?” Women are less horny by every meaningful measure including frequency of desire and selectivity of who receives it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 09:50 PM
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This. I’ll never understand how women can so easily talk about “you aren’t entitled to X!” when like half of their life is spent talking about how they, are indeed, entitled to Y. Like, women, aren’t “entitled” to have people speak to them with the assumption they are familiar with a given topic, but they complain frequently about “mansplaining” There are dozens of examples like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 09:48 PM
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What’s your opinion on Trump worship?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 05:49 AM
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lol you reset this Trumpist’s firmware with that one. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 05:29 AM
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When Trump is your whole personality. 👆
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 05:28 AM
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No. Most red pillers “complain” about how delusional western women are, which is completely accurate. Unless you’re confusing red pill with black pill like so many other mental midgets here.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 04:17 AM
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The glaring part you’re missing here is that, unlike a guy letting his friend overstay his welcome and not making the same mistake again, a woman will gladly make the same “mistake” again if sufficiently Chadly guy comes around. It’s the duplicitous nature of making rules for Billy and breaking them for Chad that is an issue IMO. A better parallel would be if your friend had a “hard rule” to never let a friend stay over, but, because some dude he just met is a DJ with clout he wants to ride the …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 12:00 AM
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Of course women on PPD will make their usual laughable claim that “only damaged women respond to …” ([ true Scotsman fallacy) Right on schedule.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 11:52 PM
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bear spray 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 09:26 PM
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Western Women: “Men are more dangerous and scary than wild murderous animals and we should treat them as such.” 💅 Also Western Women: “OMG! Why are men going to other countries to date non-western women?!?!” 🤯
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 09:19 PM
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I absolutely LOVE how PPD women claim they will “run at the first sign of RP behavior” as if RP didn’t recommend said behavior precisely because women respond positively to it. Of course women on PPD will make their usual laughable claim that “only damaged women respond to …” (no true Scotsman fallacy) and “I can tell when a man is using RP” (toupee fallacy) Bottom line: Men don’t teach men about RP, women do
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 08:55 PM
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I definitely think so. I've known two men in my scene who were for sure into RP content, like dropped dog whistles on it regularly, shared RP/Andrew Tate content in a positive light LOL. How is sharing Andrew Tate, let alone “in a positive light” a “dog whistle” That’s more of a bullhorn.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 08:46 PM
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… the entire basis of FDS
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 08:43 PM
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Except there’s a pretty damn big difference between saying “women tend to want the tallest, most handsome and high status man they can get” and “men are worse than animals that will tear you apart and eat you alive” This would be like saying “men prefer young, hot women” which would in no way be controversial. The whole reason for RP is that assigning any level of superficiality or “problematic” standards to women IS seen as controversial.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 08:42 PM
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If you are using “YouTube comments” to demonstrate, well, anything really you are 100% confirming that your take is that of a terminally online individual. Your claim that magazines will “fat shame” is hilarious (unless you are going back 20-30 year) Or maybe you missed the “plus sized” models showing up on the cover on swimsuit issues for even men’s magazines?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 07:11 PM
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What you’re ignoring is that: The fat chick online will face, at worst an 80:20 ratio of “go girl” versus “delusional fat woman” responses. In real life it would be more like 99:1 in support. For a gross man posting some “I deserve a hot woman” post, take a wild guess what the ratio of response will look like…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 06:10 PM
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Holy crap until I saw this reply I just assumed it was a guy. Then saw the flair. 🤯
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 06:05 PM
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Thanks for this. And the “stop apologizing” thing is huge and needs to be drilled into younger men’s head before they internalize the collective guilt that society is trying to assign them for the past sins of “Patriarchy” that often took place centuries ago. RP becoming a thing is basically the pendulum slamming on guard rail as it swung to the “women are wonderful” extent of its travel. It will now start swinging back down to a more reasonable balance, before likely over correcting in the othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 05:53 PM
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Why does it surprise anybody that the hyper-neurotic, anxiety riddled, emotional hemophiliacs that are modern (especially Gen Z) western women would come to the conclusion that the average man is more dangerous than an 800lbs wild bear? These women are stuck in a doom loop fueled by their victim complex and martyrdom by consuming endless amounts of fear porn which is itself satiated by endless “True Crime” podcasts, Serial Killer documentaries on Netflix and “killallmen” circle jerks like TwoX. …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 05:41 PM
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You’re wrong on almost every point about RP discussions. “I checked” ? Lmao WTF does this even mean? You call up the RP governor of your region and ask? Finally, this “if red pill worked it wouldn’t still exist” argument was hilariously bad the first time I heard it, and it remains so now. It’s such a self own logic fail it sounds almost like trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 02:18 AM
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Me: “wander over towards the mistletoe next time you see one and see what happens” (it was Christmas time). He did. She kissed him. He got his first GF. Oh yes. Life lesson: “Now Billy, go and stand here and hope that the woman makes the first move on you. If she doesn’t make a move, she’s not into you. Now skulk away like a good respectful boy before you make her uncomfortable” RP is a bunch of dudes online taking about “agency” while paying lip service to LMS while never posting training logs …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 09:50 PM
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First stop pretending like Reddit is some reflection of a person’s real life personality. That’s dumb. Second, what would “statistical evidence” of men having better dating success overseas even look like? Talk about “cope”, western women absolutely refuse to believe that western men going overseas have a pool of options there that are better by every meaningful measurement than their western counterparts and that clearly pisses them off to no end. Why? Because western women have gone all in on …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 08:35 PM
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A delusional cope versus what? Dating fat bitchy western women? Because, for an average western guy, that is his alternative. Also, men don’t gaf about a woman’s income. She needs to be caring, feminine and generally not gratuitously make his life more difficult through her neuroticism and constant obsession with score keeping which I promise you is a damn near impossible task for most western women. You also forget (and are probably pissed about) western men having a legitimate SMV boost among …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 02:42 PM
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The countless TikTok’s, articles and posts where women express this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 02:39 PM
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Yes. There are a lot of women who “reward” men with a lackluster, dead bedrooms relationship where they cause drama, nitpick and bitch constantly because they resent deep down that this guy isn’t what she “deserves” And western society is all too happy to cheer her along while she does so.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 02:37 PM
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Is that the man’s first choice, too? Aren’t you going for the hottest girl you can? Men aren’t hypergamous. Men prioritize sexual variety. Yes men will “wife up” the hot woman, but their instinct is to fuck all women, thus, men have more temptation and thus men are used to dealing with these feelings. Women, on the other hand, seem to have very little understanding of their own primal attraction cues and instead try to think of themselves as “sapiosexual” higher beings. Thus, once a true “Chad” …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 02:35 PM
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Who are women to decide which countries / nationalities men must stick with to find sex or relationships and what age difference between consenting adults is acceptable? Yet, here we are.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 02:27 PM
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Now apply this exact same thinking to men choosing to fish in a better pond (ie SEA)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 02:10 PM
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No. It’s pointing out how western women’s brains are rotted away on “go girl” and “yas kween” entitlement. Where the average woman is 5’4 @ 175 but would die before accepting her looks / life match. IDGAF what fat bitchy, anxiety riddled, drama addicted white western women do anymore. I’ve got options elsewhere, but I’m also not going to pretend that they aren’t the odious low value masculine harpies they have become. There’s a reason men aren’t flocking from other countries to bag a white Ameri…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 09:20 AM
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As a Man who never struggled with women and currently has a Girlfriend, and lives in a highly developed country (switzerland) i hate this "omg women are so delusional today brrrr" Ah yes. Here comes the “Chadsplaining”. It’s pretty common knowledge in RP circles that many Chads are blue pilled due to their charmed life of being insulated from the harsh realities of dating that an average man faces. Thus, it comes at no surprise that you would find absolutely nothing wrong or dysfunctional with w…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 09:13 AM
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The man spit facts and this is your response?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 09:02 AM
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lol the fuck kind of delusion is this. Go look at any and every social experiment in which a man OR woman is in distress of some kind and see who gets helped by men. Go see an old lady versus an old man having difficulty and see who gets helped first. This is simply another example of solipsistic womanese for “I only get bothered by ugly guys when they are trying to fuck me!” It’s also largely due to the fact that unattractive men are quite literally invisible nonentities to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 08:27 AM
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lol for all we know the “help” amounted to “go bring her flowers and ask be a kind courteous gentlemen oh and don’t forget to shower and not be a misogynist!” type shit. Just telling a kid “hey she has a crush on you” is useless if you offer confidence on how to handle yourself around women in an attractive way. Which is precisely what RP is concerned with.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 06:58 AM
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I don’t hate most men, because most men are not violent, aggressive and pushy … I just don’t associate with men who are violent, pushy, and aggressive. And that’s most men
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 06:52 AM
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You make some good points but ruin it with your white knighting and pandering. Women do indeed deal with a lot of shit in terms of solicitations from men, and a large part of their “bitch shield” (as RP calls it) can be attributed to this. It’s the same thing anybody (even a guy) has to do when walking through those annoying mall kiosk people yelling “excuse me sir! excuse me! can I talk to you for a minute?!?” Yeah. I treat them with indifference at best and annoyance or even contempt at worst …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 06:19 AM
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Your entire premise is: “if a woman am ever acts passive aggressive or bitchy, it’s because the man did something to trigger it” As if women don’t have just as many, if not more unprovoked “mood swings” and emotional outbursts ans drama farming as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 05:51 AM
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Also: Woman comes home sobbing because “Betty at work got the same dress as me for the Christmas party. Now listen to me dump on Betty because she makes me feel fat and old and I need you to tell me I’m not for 2 hours straight!” Then they lecture you about “emotional labor”
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 05:45 AM
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Oh FFS. If anybody needed a crystal clear example of “women are wonderful” brain rot, here it is. 👆
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 05:41 AM
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It should also be noted that these white western women are the same types that pushed shit like “LatinX” because, you know, those archaic poor brown people can’t fix their “problematic” language. It’s the exact same mindset at work.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 04:31 AM
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Yeah not really. Calling a delusional bitch a bitch and going to places where women are less delusional and less bitchy just seems … practical.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 04:02 AM
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Women in general, but especially’women on TikTok and doubly so women on PPD are generally unhinged, neurotic and preoccupied with shitting on / dunking on men. It’s literally the reason they are here. They aren’t here to offer constructive advice, they aren’t here to hear a different perspective, they are here to prove Red Pill ideas “wrong” however they can, even if it means lying, gaslighting or changing their opinions on a dime depending on the “tone” of a conversation. These types (which are…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 03:56 AM
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lol listen to these hens jerking each others clams off. lol @ Failing to recognize that combative fat cunty western women consider 90% of western men “unwanted leftovers” whether or not they’ve ever left the country. Which is, ironically the reason no men want them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 03:35 AM
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Ah yes. That western paternalism again. “Those poors need to stay with their own!”
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 03:24 AM
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There is no such thing as an “equal” marriage / “partnership” with western women either.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 02:54 AM
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Good catch. Added.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 12:03 AM
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As much as I am a participant in this sub, I realize that “The Gender War” is just a monetized outrage machine like so many other things in the age of the “attention economy” The saying: “Institutions will perpetuate the problem to which *they** are the solution*” comes to mind. The “problem” is “those other people are doing something bad” and the “solution” is to jump on this social media platform to explain to the other side why they are bad for internet points and dopamine hits in the form of…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 06:03 PM
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Stop witch-hunting.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 03:54 AM
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Ok. Let’s see how you run your own thought exercise. Missing white women syndrome exists because what mainstream cares more about are people who are relatable to them (white people) and have less empathy for people who are not (black people). But, Why? We could also say “mainstream cares more about women and women have less empathy towards men” Did you accept that answer? Nope. There’s also the reality that many people desire black phenotypes less so they have less internal compulsion to give af…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 03:41 AM
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No. You have demonstrated repeatedly that you are uninterested in hearing very real explanations here and you are starting from the clear (but covert) conclusion: “The women are wonderful effect is simply logical and justified in the face of men’s reputation” Let me ask you one more thing: Do you think “Missing White Woman Syndrome” is a real thing? If so, why? Explain your answer please.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 05:29 PM
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Yup. Literally every exchange with the OP results in “but why?” … “but why?” until the only remaining answer is because “women really are wonderful when compared to men, so it’s only logical the world would treat them as such” This is a lame bad faith post masquerading as a simple intellectual “inquiry”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 05:14 AM
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Programs that favor boys are seen as unnecessary since anything that even slightly inconveniences / disadvantages girls is priorities above all else. The reason: women are “better” and more deserving people. Ie “wonderful” It’s the same reason why there were countless headlines about Boko Haram kidnapping girls, but barely a peep of their wholesale slaughter of the boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 04:51 AM
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lol @ the women in here circle jerking to try to justify what is tantamount to the same kind of collective guilt used by the Third Reich to justify their policies. Yep. Proof positive that women are, indeed “wonderful” 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 04:36 AM
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lol you’re the one doing everything you can to acknowledge the obvious: The modern zeitgeist is a directly reflection of policies affected by WaW. It’s the same reason that girl’s problems and disadvantages are treated as national emergencies that require institutions to change for their benefit and boys problems are treated like inherent character flaws which must requires boys to figure out how to conform their behavior to the institutions as they exist. It’s clear your entire premise is that …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 04:33 AM
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So your answer to why schools neglect boy’s education by not structuring classes and curriculum in a way that is conducive to their success is because “Conservative Republican Lawmakers” cut funding? Is that correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 04:07 AM
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I agree with all of this. So why do you think those things are no longer priorities or even offered when it’s clear that it would help boys?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 03:59 AM
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So then would you agree with the statement: Girls are seen as as “better students” than boys because the current structure imposed in education favors girl’s natural temperament and inclinations over boys?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 03:51 AM
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You’re dismissing any self serving reasons while affirming the ones that paint men as “dangerous” and inherently “worse” than women as you did with the boys in school example. The fact that you’re trying to portray boys as “problematic” alone is an example of WaW. Instead of asking “why isn’t school structured in such a way that boys are able to be mentored and allowed to grow and learn in ways that are unique to boys” you are basically claiming that they are defective girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 02:44 AM
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You’re all over this thread hand waving away legitimate answers. Your entire premise is in bad faith because you have clearly started from the premise that “it is only logical to see women as better, more altruistic and moral than men” Now you’ll deny it, but anybody with a rudimentary level of understanding debate tactics knows that you are fishing for answers that confirm your emotionally arrived at conclusion: “men are scary and bad” Like many women, you are treating this as a zero sum game “…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 02:34 AM
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You’re confusing FAME with status. They are distinct, though fame is a kind of status. Fame trumps looks, money and status. Fame is the reason serial killers, ugly comedians and DJ’s have groupies, but some obscure multi millionaire that owns apartment buildings doesn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 04:12 PM
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women aren’t running around ruining happy and stable relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 09:00 PM
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LOL @ asking women if they lie then expecting them not to lie about lying. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 08:59 PM
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You left out some other greatest hits: small dick energy virgin short man’s complex pedo Sure. Women never throw out those words to men for any and every reason right? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 08:57 PM
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The fuck are you even talking about with “cheating”? You’re having an entirely different conversation in your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 08:53 PM
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“My issue wasn’t that I was late every day, left early and didn’t do my work, my issue was that I picked a job that could accept me for me.” Thinking reflecting on a failed relationship and taking accountability for your part in it amounts to “I picked a bad man” hurts my brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 08:35 PM
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Yeah no problem. I’ve also “got no evidence” for the existence of gravity, water being wet and that the earth is round.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 06:58 PM
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Saying that your standards weren't high enough and you didn't love yourself enough is reflection on inadequacies. No. It’s precisely a cop out. It’s another way of saying “I was too good for him anyway💅” It means she also didn't hold herself to high enough standards. She didn't love herself enough to act or behave differently. whAT? Jesus Christ. This is some next level hamstering. Standards aren't just for the partner but yourself as well. Yeah now we’re into the mental gymnastics realm. Oddly,…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 06:55 PM
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lol imagine thinking I’m gonna comb through comments to do your homework for you just to prove what every person who has used this sub more than a week knows is commonplace.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 06:47 PM
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didn't have high enough standards and didn't love yourself enough That's accountability. Wow. Just wow. Here we have, in real time, a woman absolutely refusing to even entertain that a woman (even in the abstract) do some self reflection on her on possible inadequacies and flaws, and instead tell herself her relationship could have only failed because of her standards for her partner weren’t “high enough” Beautifully illustrating what a lack of accountability looks like. Bravo. 👏
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 06:27 PM
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It's not influenced by clothes, There’s that accountability again!🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 06:20 PM
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Men without options have to play super nice with the girl and treat her like gold because that's all he has. Of course, non-chad can be an extremely shitty partner, he could be violent or aggressive. But he is unlikely to be those things because he is constantly on thin ice. If he fucks up he has no other options. So simply put but so accurate and irrefutable. You’d think women would understand how their opinion of men is colored by this phenomenon, but nope. Their apex fallacy goggles makes the…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 06:01 PM
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i have hardly seen women on here debate among themselves. Because it virtually never happens due to women’s in-group bias / “sisterhood” mentality. Notice that when one woman momentarily strays off the reservation she is immediately called a “pick me” by the rest of the herd.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 05:52 PM
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There are men on this very sub shitty on women For the love of god, how do people continue to make this “men on THIS sub do X” argument without realizing in the next breath how terminally online it proves them to be? “This sub” is NOT society at large. It’s literally an ideological ghetto borne out of the fact that these ideas can’t even be discussed let alone argued for in REAL life because the dominant narrative will shut down the conversation as misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 05:50 PM
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Where are the women here disparaging male virgins How in the ever loving fuck can somebody expect to be taken seriously after saying something this dumb? Acting like incel / virgin / you can’t get laid isn’t THE go-to insult of women on PPD / Reddit / Online everywhere. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 05:37 PM
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I agree with you that men close to a woman's league shouldn't be dating women who have "had" a man far above her league. Can confirm. Once you get inklings about her ex, good old “Big Dick Rick” and hear her complaining about his fuckboy ways while praising you for being “not like that” … time to start looking for the exit. I'd never date a woman who had a casual sex history. I mean, this one is easier said than done. But I don't think that all women, especially on a worldwide scale, behave like…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 03:15 PM
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Whoever says we’re equal and that we should treat women as such, can shove that recommendation up their ass. That’s a red carpet walkway to becoming a dumpee no mater how much did she initially desire you. ✅ Also notice how the usual PPD women and white knights aren’t even attempting to rebut this, which always says volumes. 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 02:49 PM
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Attentive in terms of reading body language is not the same “attentive” I was referring to which is obviously more in line with the “constant seeking of verbal consent” and “slow kissing on the way down to her pussy” rather than just going for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 04:08 AM
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IMO, the more a society dominated by feminism tells women they are “boss babes” and “the good / moral / better” sex and that they should strive to be as good as or better than any man at everything, they end up tired of putting on that dumb ass boss bitch front which results in growing desire to be a submissive used and abused slut being more and more of a forbidden fruit (since feminism also tells them how “problematic” such desires are) which is always conducive to sexual arousal. Combine that…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 04:03 AM
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lol so dead on. It took me way too long to figure this out, but the look of bliss on a woman’s face the first time I simply told her where we were going for dinner is something that i won’t soon forget. Any man playing this “checking in” game will soon find himself dead bedroomed before being lectured about “emotional labor”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 12:25 AM
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The women here constantly say things like “women like men that X” or “no women like Y”. Do you scold them for speaking for all women? I think not.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 12:22 AM
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Never said “all women”, just enough for it to be true that men can easily “Peak” in terms of SMV and options in their 30’s. All the women in theirs early 20’s I banged in my 30’s and 40’s certainly didn’t have a problem with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 12:18 AM
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Do you fail to see how modern feminist narratives are creating men who are so timid and trepidations about their owns sexuality and women’s “comfort” that this is precisely what they’ll end up doing?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 11:19 PM
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That is correct, and it behooves a man to A.) learn to read body language rather than obsessing over dumb ass “verbal consent” games and B.) Err on the side of dominating a girl in bed rather than being too timid.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 11:18 PM
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Yes, but if you do that on your first at bat as a man, 9/10 times you’re getting ghosted for being “boring”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 11:14 PM
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Yeah no. Women often actively express that men should play games of “mother may I” when in reality they want men to be assertive and escalate on their own because women want men who “just get it” not timid nerds obsessed with “checking in” with their partners needs instead of just treating her like a fuck doll like she truly wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 11:11 PM
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Women will claim they want attentive slow “love making” if it suits their argument in any given moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 11:09 PM
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Some men like to get pegged. Some like to dress up like furries. Most men like a woman with a nice shaped ass, boobs and an hourglass figure. Does that mean every time we make the statement “men like a nice round ass” we should chime in with “mEn aRe nOt a MonOlItH!1!1” because some men have a fetish for Lizzo?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 10:55 PM
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Lemme guess: “wOmeN aRe not a mOnOlItH!1!1”?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 10:42 PM
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Well reasoned and articulated take (as usual) so thanks. I don’t disagree with you and I don’t want to promote some weird black and white BlackPill take on this subject, but I will say that women seem to a large extent grade men overall based on the men they perceive as “available to them. As an aside, women’s attraction cues seem to be very influenced by external factors and not just an individuals “improvement” as can be seen by western women suddenly discovering Asian men attractive since the…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 10:39 PM
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PPD women deny or obfuscate this constantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 10:32 PM
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Did you all miss the last 10-15 years where messaging directed at men was that women wanted the polar opposite in a partner but wanted “attentive, patient partners” who obsessively pursued “affirmative consent”?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 10:30 PM
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Cool. Feel free to start your own dog-eat-dog paradise somewhere else on earth. After all, you have the “freedom” to do so. Something tells me you’re too comfortable enjoying the fruits of all those social programs and organized society provides to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 08:01 PM
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I see. So just let the old and infirm die on the streets because they made “bad investment choices” Oh well, too bad for them. Funny how that didn’t work out so well for Ms Rand, the god the “objectivism” you advocate for. Like I said, nothing stopping you for going to a 3rd world country, buying some land and starting your own utopia without social programs. Pull those bootstraps.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 07:55 PM
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Ok I see what you mean, and it’s a fair point. You are basically saying women grade men relative to themselves which is also true. This used to be enough. However, in the age of social media and OLD induced FOMO, women now perceive what men must “bring to the table” via an increasingly warped lense that is not merely limited to their worth relative to them as a woman, but as a man’s status among all men. If this weren’t the case then the phenomenon of “the contextual chad” wouldn’t exist. That i…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 07:52 PM
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Imagine comparing a Victoria’s Secret catalog, actual runway models, billboards or obese women in underwear, and putting a fat women on the cover of a men’s magazines swimsuit issue and thinking that it’s equivalent to… “A big and tall section at Sears” 🤣 We’re on a roll today.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 07:42 PM
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they need to adapt to the environment instead of demanding the environment adapt to them. While I agree, this automatically eliminates 90% or modern western women, which gets us right back to where we started. Those women need their reality checked in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 07:39 PM
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why do you care? :sigh: The word on the street is “Hoeflation”: The dramatic increase in cost for men today to maintain a relationship with a woman while the quality of women continues to go down. That is to say, it is an increase in female expectations vs what they bring to the table in a relationship. https://www.gulf-insider.com/us-has-feminism-and-hoeflation-destroyed-dating-in-the-west/
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 07:37 PM
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Nope. Women grade men on a curve. Women want the best men. The best men will always be in the top 20%. If you push more men from the bottom 80% up, it will just change what “top 20” entails. Instead of 6,6,6 it would go to 7,7,7. The real way is to teach women the effects social media, OLD and casual sex have on their ability to be satisfied with a suitable partner and to be aware of it. But that would be “misogyny”. Unlike shaming men for consuming porn and the subsequent and oft cited “unreali…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 07:34 PM
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Somebody has OD’d on Ayn Rand (who died taking social security btw) You realize you can just go live in any lawless wilderness to realize your libertarian utopia right? Or did you want those nice roads, police and fire departments to go with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 07:30 PM
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Bingo. That would be a good start. “Strong women work on oil rigs” or “Ice Fishing is feminist” or “Plumbers are empowered” would be great campaigns. I’m gonna guess there would be some such hamstering such as “the men are mean to us in those professions!” or some other means of escape though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 07:28 PM
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Fat male models are all over Target and JCPenney on giant posters and billboards. whhaAT? lol even for you this is a new level of horse shit. 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 07:20 PM
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lol you know I was so ceetain this response was coming, I almost preempted it by saying “now you’re going to say …” I still wanted to see if you’d reach for this low hanging but ultimately irrelevant and useless point as a “get out of the subject at hand” escape hatch and you did just that. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 07:17 PM
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No. There is no mainstream narrative in which men deny pursuing sex for its own sake. “Men are dogs” is a fucking meme and has been know for millennia. Meanwhile, the modern post-feminism era is still stuck in a “women are wonderful” delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 07:14 PM
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Uh yes. I’m saying that’s precisely what I’m saying. Is the notion of women warping their self perceptions of their actual mate value supposed to sound crazy? If you know any straight men who have dated regularly in the past 10 years, ask them and they’ll confirm this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 07:11 PM
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Riddle me this, genius: why do you not see fat men modeling underwear, swimsuits and appearing on the cover of men’s fitness magazines despite there being just as many fat men around? Funny that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 07:08 PM
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I’ll file this right under “women wear bootie shorts to them gym”, “women don’t care about height” and “women put on a full face of makeup when going out” … “for themselves” That would be in the “bullshit” file.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 07:07 PM
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Because like most mid to worse women, their brains become “Chadsick” and they begin to believe the guys choosing to drunk fuck them after last call at 1:50am are now “what they deserve” for a relationship. Some frat bro drunkenly banging a fat chick as a slump buster isn’t the problem; it’s the fat chick deluding herself that she can hold out for commitment from one of those men above her league. That woman needs society (including other women) to tell her she’s not worthy of that, and that she …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 06:38 PM
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Because 1 GSS study doesn’t disprove a trend. Especially when that study was conducted once there was a vested interest in portraying the data in a light favorable to women (ie there’s no such thing as male sexlessness)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 06:36 PM
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So basically believe my 1 study and ignore the other 10. Let’s just pretend that not only the direct self report data but ancillary data about women’s sexual selectivity don’t match this phenomenon almost exactly. Got it. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 06:31 PM
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The “myth” will change just as soon as status, charisma, charm, self confidence, assertiveness, income, education level and style cease to be major factors in women’s attraction cues; nearly all of which improve for men continuously after 25. So, basically, never.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 06:21 PM
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I would argue fat women are more able to find sex and even relationships with fit men than ever before due in large part to these movements in addition to OLD giving them a veritable buffet (heh) of men that would normally be out of reach to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 06:19 PM
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lol wait your criteria for measuring male sexual scarcity is … literal no sexual partners whatsoever over decades? You’re still out here trying to hamster away the data and pretend that rising male sexlessness isn’t a thing huh? You bloops are something else 🤣 <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 06:15 PM
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Men are disloyal and petty as fuck. Compared to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 05:43 PM
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Ok. Change it to “since the advent of social media” <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 05:41 PM
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According to posts here Your entire reply could have just ended here. They can't even treat their woman like a princess. Actually, I’m glad you continued. You pulled the old “prove the point while trying to deny it” trick. I love when that happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 05:35 PM
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Problem X happening 100x a day, out in the open and being celebrated or excused is irrelevant when problem Y (a literal crime) is worse and might happen someday. Yet I as a man am 10x more likely to be a victim of violence and find a way to see them as both distinct issues both worthy of concern.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 05:33 PM
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Fair enough. You seem pretty even handed with your takes. I strike my earlier statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 05:30 PM
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I honestly don't care what men lust over lol. If they prefer a Victoria's Secret model looking woman then that's fine. Oh? Is that why feminists have pushed “body positivity” (for women mind you) so far that Victorias Secret has decided to include fat models, the Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue has a fat woman on its cover and countless as campaigns have taken to using obese women to represent them? I guess all that just came out of thin air huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 05:27 PM
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No. I’m not going to hand hold you through every repeated study that shows women lie about their N counts, lie about what actually arouses them and give answers that will tend to portray them in the best light rather than give the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 05:24 PM
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You really think ANY academic institution would fund any study that could potentially portray women in a negative light? Have you been following the feminist “activists” behavior for the last 20 years? Anybody involved in such “misogynistic research” would have groups of sign holding feminists calling for their heads before the study was even released. Hence, all we have to go on are literally every dump of analytics data from OLD, womens own words about what percentage of men they find attracti…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 05:21 PM
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Do you think EVERY MAN thinks he deserves a woman who looks like a porn star or lingerie model? Because the mainstream narrative is very much that “men” in general do feel “entitled” to this and are very much the architects of their own resulting problems relating to women. So start from there.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 05:17 PM
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While it’s not nearly on the same scale as you tout I agree that it happens Wait, so you actually think the modern mainstream wholesale shitting on men and nearly every aspect of masculinity by media, politics and education isn’t “on the same scale” as men talking bad about women? Based on what? Some manosphere internet ghettos?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 05:15 PM
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Oh? And not the least bit duplicitous, deceptive, entitled, catty, vindictive and tending to use tactics like gossip, rumor spreading and false allegations in place of violence? Cool story.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 05:13 PM
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Is that happening? What are they lying about? Oh FFS. We’re not going to review “female sexual strategies 101” here
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 05:10 PM
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But do you chime in on threads or conversations that dogpile about how collectively shitty men are? I’m gonna guess no.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 05:09 PM
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Height, income and education level for starters. I care for the same reason that countless women care very much that men tend to lust over Victoria secret models and enact “body positive” media campaigns as a result; it’s a dysfunctional standard that is not conducive to healthy sexual or romantic relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 05:07 PM
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If 3 poor people want to go to college and scholarships only exist for 2 of them based on their gender, has the 1 lost out?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 05:05 PM
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Is it women’s responsibility as members of a functioning society to not actively lie and gaslight in a self serving manner when the results of those lies are millions of confused men living in misery based on said lies?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 05:03 PM
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And what of “the nature of women”?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 05:02 PM
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Add in “white supremacy”, “colonization” and “patriarchy”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 05:01 PM
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Poisoning their minds via things like social media and OLD to the point of utterly warped perceptions of what “average” means for starters? Or is the susceptibility to warped perceptions only reserved for “pornsick” men beating their dick to a laptop screen.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 04:59 PM
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it’s the way they talk about women as a whole. They act as if women are some homogenous group that all abide by the same principles So, basically the exact way men are described and portrayed every day by mainstream media and society which is met with nothing but laughter, agreement or applause. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 04:57 PM
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And what do you make of statements like: “The bar is on the floor” “Men can’t do the bare minimum” “Men just want sex” Etc Because, if you’re honest, you’d notice nobody bats an eye to those utterly common phrases when said in public or mainstream media.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 04:55 PM
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To these bloops? Yes. Yet these same white knights will jump in to agree that “toxic masculinity” and “rape culture” are huge problems that are every man’s responsibility to address and that “men” need to “do better You see, assigning collective guilt and pointing out widespread cultural problems is only acceptable when it’s directed at men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 04:50 PM
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What economic and educational advantages have been given up? Uhh… lost opportunities via DEI and “lean in” programs and women’s only scholarships for starters?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 04:45 PM
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You realize there are whole ass campaigns designed to “normalize” obese women by putting them in fashion shows, video games and insisting they are “sexy” while simultaneously shaming men who find them unattractive by accusing said men of having “unrealistic body standards” right? Maybe we can do something similar for men? Or nah… that would get laughed out of the room by “body positive” women now wouldn’t it?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 04:44 PM
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It’s not so much that men are targeted (though they often are) it’s that the “DEI” mandates in companies will create environments where management will walk on egg shells and often ignore the bad behavior of members of those in what could be considered “marginalized groups” for fear of legal repercussions. An example would be if a gay manager dated a gay subordinate or a black woman made a sexualized comment to a white man, management would be very unlikely to treat those situations remotely the…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 11:25 PM
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You’re not wrong when you say most of these discussions are limited to terminally online neurotic women. I’ll give you that. As somebody who has been in several “age gap” or “power imbalance” relationships, I’ve never (not once) had any women express this shit IRL. However, I have seen men dragged, written up by HR, and cancelled for things deemed “problematic” with little to no evidence. To pretend straight (white) men aren’t in the crosshairs of the woke firing squads cancel canon of social ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 10:53 PM
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Huh? Every heterosexual male’s sexual preference is picked apart by gossiping hens to make sure it’s not “problematic” in any way. Age gap Power imbalance Patriarchal Controlling Those are all amorphous buzzwords used by women to twist completely normal heterosexual relationships that are in any way beneficial to a man as “problematic” and worthy of “side eye” and “calling out” You’ll often see white women accuse white men who date Asian women of having “Asian fever” and “just wanting an obedien…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 10:37 PM
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lol as always with women, it’s not about facts, logic or intellectual consistency, but about tone.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 10:32 PM
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Also women: “Small Dick Energy!1!1 TeeHee!” 💅
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 10:29 PM
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Basically the French practice sexual liberation and tolerance universally as opposed to the US where sexual liberation and tolerance is for everyone except straight men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 08:27 PM
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Large studios full of women? What are you talking about The examples / links are throughout this thread. I’m not going to do your homework for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 07:42 PM
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Apparently it’s very difficult as this type of behavior often results in large studios full of women clapping and laughing uproariously with zero pushback. It takes a case like Amber Heard with literal threats (and acts) of violence ON TAPE to maybe get some women to speak out.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 07:33 PM
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You’re all over this thread with this as your one and only come back. Staying true to form as always. 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 07:19 PM
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There is no argument. You can’t use logic to debunk declarations of dogmatic religious texts that have been arrived at via hysterical neuroticism and emotion.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 07:11 PM
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In other news: Women self report whatever makes them look good and virtuous. What a shocker.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 07:09 PM
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What the fuck kind of brain rot is this? And women critique RP for being weird and autistic? This text reads like some Scientology style cult indoctrination. Yet, THIS shit is being taught in universities and people are given “degrees” for it and go on to implement this dogma into politics, media and education and are celebrated for it. Let that sink in. And before you say shit like this doesn’t actually manifest in real ways, read this. How do you people even date let alone fuck with this insan…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 06:58 PM
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The majority of men have faced various levels of misandry at the hands of women so …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 06:55 PM
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I’d just like to point out that the jist of your entire argument is: “when it comes to their sexuality, women are liars and will gaslight men when it’s convenient.” I’m glad we agree on that. Let’s see you put those arguments to your fellow PPD women when they make the claims of being “sapiosexual” or “demi”. I doubt I’ll be seeing that though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 03:02 PM
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The difference is the fat guy isn’t getting laid or getting dates. Hes stuck in his studio apartment playing League of Legends covered in Cheeto dust. The fat woman can stuff herself in a “sexy” dress and get yas kweened for being “stunning and brave” and go to any given bar or club on the weekend to be Chad’s slump buster to convince herself she’s attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 02:46 PM
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Lmao. PPD women change the narrative about their sexuality daily. One day they “feel zero attraction to a man unless they hear about his hopes and dreams” and the next day they are “just as horny as men and want to fuck guys they see on the bus” 🤣 Of course, the answer always depends on whether or not the context makes the woman look virtuous or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 02:43 PM
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No. There is no “body positivity” for fat men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 07:52 AM
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The way you talk, it sounds you’ve got the right approach here. It will go by faster than you think. Don’t get hung up on long term goals, get hung up on short term trends I’m sure you know all that already
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 07:43 AM
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You could be a blind hermaphrodite in a wheel chair, so you’re right. But when speaking about men and women in general, yes you can very much make general statements about average cohorts. Unless you’re going to go down the whole “pregnant man” route here, in which case, have at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 07:33 AM
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Ok my bad on this one. I thought you were saying women have to have “social skills” to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 07:31 AM
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I'm a man
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 07:30 AM
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